#505: Anklez & Tipz

I like WF.

WF?

Yeah, you want to be WF from there, on?

Yeah, BQ sounds so fucking edgy.

BJ, you know, it sounds edgy.

That doesn't sound as great.

Now, is this

a

slope?

No, that's a slippery slope, though.

Betty Ryan made the mistake of dying around the same time Rob Bruce did in my world.

Tell him, Steve Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's first of 22 edition.

I'm here with the BQ.

Hello.

And I'm here with Walt Flanagan.

I like WF.

WF?

Yeah, you want to be WF from now on?

Yeah, BQ sounds so fucking edgy.

BJ, you know, it sounds edgy.

That doesn't sound as great.

Still, it can work, though, when the right person's saying it.

Right.

WF.

WF.

It's a harder, like, like BQ and BJ kind of roll.

Yes.

WF sounds a little harder, like a little tougher, even maybe a little bit.

Like E.F.

Hutton, like you better listen up, asshole.

Yeah, those are some fucking hard, you know, words there, wall flat and WF.

That's what a lot of people are going by, initials.

Like they call Tom Brady TB.

And I don't know if you've been following the news queue, there's a lot of big news about, you know, Antonio Brown and Tom Brady.

And they all refer to each other by their initials, AB.

Yeah.

BA, which is Bruce Arians, and TB.

So if you don't know your initial lingo, you're lost when you're reading these articles.

So maybe that's a way to do that.

Well, you got to do things.

You mean

initial lingo.

Got you.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right, WF, you got it, bud.

I read TB with smashing iPads recently.

True?

Yeah, TB got caught on camera smashing an iPad during the middle of a game.

What?

What set him off?

They were getting crushed by the Saints, and he was looking at the cover.

Like, he goes back to the bench after he threw a pick, and he's looking at the coverage, and I guess he's mad at himself for making a stupid throw that

caused the pick.

And he just took the

surface.

You ever hear of that?

I don't know why the NFL.

It's not an iPad.

It's not really an iPad.

It's like the Microsoft surface, right?

And I guess the NFL was like, if you smash another iPad, you're going to get fined because that's not what we want to do to our sponsors.

Because it looks like it's flimsy.

And it looks like something that is disposable

when they see a guy of his stature just throwing him around

garbage.

Jesus.

But

at the same time, though, it's like a child could break it.

Do they really think, oh my God, it takes a fucking practically a superhero to break our iPod.

I mean, I've dropped my phone no less than two, like, like on a on a seat, not on a seat, on a cushion, and it cracked.

So these things are prone to breaking, you know, easily.

Yeah.

Is he known for that?

Is he a tantrum sidelines type of guy?

Oh, yeah.

They say he's a very poor sport, doesn't shake hands when he loses, throws a little bit of

a temper tantrum when things don't go his way.

So he acts the way we all want to act.

Yeah.

Can anybody here right now say they've never thrown a little mini tantrum and broken a door or

put a hole in the sheetrock?

You're looking at me, but I feel like you're not talking to me.

I've done it.

I mean,

I've thrown something at a tree in my backyard, you know, because I was just so pissed

trying to knock the tree down, couldn't do it, but I felt like I couldn't.

Yeah, it didn't work out.

It is weird when an inanimate object feels like just because there's something in our brain, right, where we get annoyed or angry, and it feels like an inanimate object has offended or insulted us.

Isn't it a weird feeling?

Like I've had it where I'm like, this fucking thing and like that's it.

Like I was like, I'll break it.

I don't care if I got to buy a new one.

Like fuck yes.

Like putting something together, like you just get something, you know, in the mail and you got it and fucking, God forbid if I have to put it together.

And then I spend two hours putting it together and I realize I put it together backwards.

Yeah.

You know, and then you got to take it all apart again.

I'd rather just break it into a million pieces.

I always do that with furniture.

Like I'll get like a little like

nightstand table and I'll like screw it so that the screws come up through the top, and I'm like, this fucking piece of shit, even though it's not going to do it.

I definitely have dyslexia, though, when it comes to instructions on putting things together.

Like, any kind of assembly, you can bet I'll put it together backwards, even though I'm reading the instructions.

It has to be a form of dyslexia.

Yeah.

So, 2022, Walt, how's it treating you so far?

Personally, not that bad, you know, but it seemingly everybody else is taking it on chin in 2022.

So far, not so great for some people.

Definitely not.

We have

Rob Bruce.

Well, we got Rob Bruce, who, like, I have to say, I was slightly amused that in my little world, the death of Rob Bruce factored in way more heavily than the death of Betty White.

Sure, yeah.

Betty White made the mistake of dying around the same time Rob Bruce did in my world.

She got a clips.

That's great.

Now,

Robert was on an early episode of Tell Him Steve Dave.

He was on a couple early ones.

One where he was being interviewed by us on Overkill because he had seen an angel and he had seen, I think, the Jersey Devil.

So, because I was racking my brain, I was like, did BQ

ever meet Rob Bruce?

And then I was like, oh, fuck him.

Plenty of times.

Yeah,

but initially, when the news broke, I was like, well, I got to tell BQ.

And I'm like, well, I don't even know if you met him.

But then I realized later on, though, yeah, you did.

You many times, probably.

Many times, there was a run

when you guys were making the show where I saw him every week because he was just around.

Yeah, do you have any

RB

memories?

I mean, I don't think anything specific that would shine new light on the guy.

Like, all my interactions were like conversations about what everybody else talked to about, comics and toys, and you know, traffic.

But I liked him, like, I did like him.

I know that he,

you know, if like some people were irritated if he was around too much,

but I never really hit that point with him.

I think sometimes, like, I was trying to think of it.

I'm like,

sometimes he laughed too much while we were recording.

Is that right?

Or am I making that up in my mind?

Yeah, he had, I mean, and this is coming from me.

This is coming from me.

So he had an annoying laugh.

You had a cockle.

You had a cockle.

So if I'm saying you got an annoying laugh,

it's got to be a problem then.

Right.

Yeah, I liked the guy.

I genuinely liked him.

I liked him.

Liked him.

I liked his son.

He was nice to me.

His son was a good kid.

I always liked his son, and I think I liked Rob Bruce.

Once I met the son and liked the kid, I think I even liked the father more because I was like, oh, he's kind of a, you know,

a little aversion.

I liked Rob.

Yeah, he was a little aversion of Robert.

And then the last time I saw Rob was after I came into the store, and there was a story about him punching Mike in the back of the head or something like that.

And I was like, and that was the last time I saw Rob.

I never saw him again.

Well, yeah, that's where we did a, we did a little tribute pod.

Um, me,

Brian, and Brian Nichelle.

We asked Ming, but Ming was at a con.

He couldn't make it,

you know, to do a little pod for the family's benefit.

You know how we do the cochulier?

Yeah, yeah.

The pods.

That was the plan here is like we would do this little podcast for the Bruce family, and they could put it up on Bandcamp, and 100% of the proceeds will then go to the family.

And

I talked a little bit about, you know, that guilt.

A little guilt.

I have a little bit of guilt about kind of ostracizing Robert in some

misspent sense of loyalty after the punch.

I didn't talk to him for over a year.

And then when I did run into him,

he was immediately nice to me and wasn't like, he wasn't like awkward or holding a grudge or trying to like defend himself.

It was just like as if it didn't happen.

And I felt a little bad and then realized that I was like, I'm really not mad at this guy.

There's no reason for me to be

holding something against him, you know, that

because somebody else got bitch slapped.

I never even heard the story.

He never talked about it on TSD because, again, out of some

form of loyalty, I felt like, you know, because I don't agree with what he did.

That is not the way you handle yourself.

You don't go around punching people when things don't go your way.

But,

yeah, it was just a cluster fucking.

But I'm glad, though, that when I saw him, I talked to him, and I saw him again a couple other times before he passed.

I remember the last time I had a conversation with him.

It was a nice conversation.

We were laughing, and

I made a purchase from something from him that I needed for the Patreon content.

And,

you know, I'm glad I didn't not see him and didn't talk to him because of that.

At At least I got to

kind of make him feel like, hey, dude, I don't hold anything against you for what happened.

Well, that's good.

Yeah.

I mean, that's just me being, that's just my selfish way of looking at things.

When now, because he's gone, I guess I try to

somehow make it more digestible to me.

Is that what it is?

Because I thought the same thing.

I was like, wow, I had just seen him a week before, but before that.

I can't remember the last time I'd spoken to him.

I mean, you would have little reasons.

I mean, I would literally see the man walking down the street and I didn't talk to him.

Yeah, because again, I was like, I had a sense of loyalty and friendship.

I was like, my friend.

I would want you guys to do that, though.

But I would do that for you.

Right.

I would, like, if somebody, someone pops you and you don't know about it, that guy's dead to me.

You're right.

You know, and I, but in retrospect, though, like I said, like for hindsight being 2020, I shouldn't have done that, probably.

I didn't need to do that.

Yeah.

And

I feel like, you know, like, I'm glad, though, that I didn't, that

personally, again, I don't know, like, but this is all about me, though, you know, and I hate that when someone passes away and I'm making it about myself, they're like, well, at least I talked to him.

At least we had a conversation and we laughed together.

But what else do I got to do?

Yeah, that's what I mean.

I don't think that's...

You can't talk about it from his perspective.

He doesn't even have a perspective anymore.

I mean,

it's like you just got to let it go.

Yeah, I think it was more the pandemic.

Like, I wouldn't have not talked to him because of that story.

Like, I heard he punched Mike in the back of the head, and I was like, No, that's fine.

I remember how I felt, but I started laughing.

I was like, That's crazy.

What?

Like, why would he do that?

And then nobody, I like, nobody ever told me a single detail of the story.

So, I just knew he punched Mike in the back of the head.

It was because

Kevin was down, and they were having a signing event for Kevin.

He was signing something, and we filtered the crowd to see Kevin into the back door of the old stash, 35 Broad Street.

And I guess I was in the front of the store,

and Robert came to the back of the store and wanted to pop his head in and say hello to Kevin.

Cool.

And Mike said he couldn't come in.

And I guess, you know, Mike taking that stance, that power stance, I guess made Robert feel a little

emasculated in front of the fans who were waiting.

Again, I guess because Robert felt like, hey, I want to go in and say hello to Kevin.

And Mike was like, you can't go in.

And this really pissed off Robert.

And then that was on a Saturday.

And then

on a Monday morning, I guess Robert confronted him.

And, you know, it

not de-escalated, escalated into

a shouting match that was ended with a.

Light fisticuffs.

Oh, wow.

But why do you think Mike wouldn't let him in?

Or you can't speak to him.

I don't know exactly what happened.

Like I said, because I was running the register in front of the store.

But my guess would be he just, because of their distaste for each other, I can't.

Yeah, just didn't like him.

Just didn't like him.

Oh, power tripping.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Although, listen to this week's I Sell Comics, and you'll see a totally different side.

Eventually, evidently, they had made amends and they were best buddies.

There was a lot of things said that I wasn't aware of.

But, I mean, isn't that what I'm doing, though?

And I'm like, well, at least I talked to him, and I know he knows that I wasn't mad at him.

I don't know that.

But, like, in my head, I'm trying to make this neat little

making him a bed and it's like perfectly made here.

There's no messiness.

But in my head, maybe he did resent that I just kind of didn't talk to him anymore after that.

It doesn't sound like it.

No, it didn't.

I'm just mostly confused by one thing.

Like, Bri, you said you listened to I Sell Comics?

Yeah, the first like 15 minutes of it.

And there was a glowing tribute from people that I'm like, I don't believe this is the way it was.

I mean, I didn't, I can't say for sure that they had made amends, but even Ming, who is Mike's business partner and podcast partner, seemed taken aback when Mike said that they had made amends and everything was cool.

Wow.

Well, I mean, look,

I don't think Mike's

going to lie, like, bald face lie about that.

What's the point?

I think people like to soften it a little when people die.

It's like, you don't want to be known as the guy who was like, I fucking hated him to the end.

Like, otherwise, I disagree.

I disagree with that statement.

I want people to.

I know you.

Oh, there are people out there.

They know.

I know.

I didn't listen to that.

I didn't listen to the episode that you're referring to, but I think the rest of the world.

But if there was a little bit of

spin going on because of

a man is no longer with us.

I can almost identify with it.

Not identify it, but I can almost understand why.

Because, like you said, nobody wants to be that guy who is like, I hated him to the end.

I mean, it's tough to be.

I mean, although I agree with you, though, like, there's a person, like I was telling Giddam, I was like, there's a person that when they die,

I'm not going to

ever say, like, try to spin it like what you do when someone, because there's no harm in not liking liking somebody.

There's no, like, there's no, like, there's no, like, there's no shame in that.

Like, if you just don't like somebody, you don't get along.

But I would never go online and try to paint a picture that, you know, that wasn't the real picture, though, just because they're not around anymore.

Yeah, that's, I think, there was some light spinning, probably because of guilt.

Probably because

it's natural to feel guilty.

Like, wow, like

I, I could have dropped it, and it could have been nothing.

Well, look, I mean, according to the story I just heard, I 100% think that,

look, Mike was being a little petty for sure,

but still, if a guy cheapshotted me from the back of the head,

I don't know that I would be

expecting to forgive him.

Yeah.

I wouldn't be like you have to forgive him or you're a jerk if you don't forgive him.

If you find forgiveness in your heart, good for you.

But if you don't, you shouldn't be judged for

being

a rotten person because of that.

Yeah, I agree.

I think up to the end, Mike was like, you know what?

Fuck that guy.

He fucking

cheap shot at me from behind for something that I did.

I would understand it.

I would understand holding that grudge.

Who am I to judge?

Yeah.

But I will say this, once you sprinkle in the fact that he was so fucking petty about letting him in, then some people might shift, might be like, oh, he fucking deserved a shot to the back of the head.

He denied a producer on Kevin Smith's TV show entrance to just pop his head in and say hello.

Something he wouldn't have done to anybody else.

There's no other producers on that show.

I don't even think there's a fucking PA he would have done it to.

But

let's, all right.

I like going back and forth here, right?

But let's go back to Mike and be like, well, fuck it.

If you got the power, use it, baby.

Like, why not?

Fucking humiliate your nemesis in front of people.

Like, why?

Like, how many chances in life do you actually get to do that?

But Q, with great power comes great responsibility.

This is true.

We could say that Mike wasn't very superhero-ish that day.

He did have a

Uncle Ben Movie.

Just guarding a door next to a stinking dumpster.

His Uncle Ben Moe.

Wow.

Well,

I hope they did find peace and stuff like that.

I wouldn't want Mike, you know, even though I don't really see Mike as much as I used to, let's say.

But, you know, I wouldn't want Mike to be walking around with a head full of regret and

bad feelings.

What are you going to do?

It is what it is.

Well, there's no doubt that Mike's going to hear this, so I just want to say, you know, for the record, that's how I feel, Mike.

Then what about Betty White, though?

Did you ever meet Betty White?

I didn't, man.

I didn't.

I never got to meet her.

That would have been cool.

And you were a mega

of her and on Golden Girls, right?

Yeah,

I loved her.

I'd always hoped.

We tried to get her into do a couple of things with us one here or there, but she understandably was like, I'm in my 90s.

I'm not flying to New York to do something.

But

yeah, she was great.

I mean, she was really like,

she never.

I was a big fan of hers.

Not like these people coming out of the woodwork now where fucking everybody's a Betty White fan.

That's what I'm going to say.

Does that piss you off?

Because it's like, I mean, that's a little bit of the gatekeeper coming out in you, but that's okay.

Fuck it.

I've always said we're gatekeepers and we should never fucking be ashamed of it.

No, we keep them gates.

I think it speaks a lot to

I think it speaks to a lot to.

Sal said a quote once, I think, about Robin Williams, and it really stuck with me a lot.

But it's just like, when you die and the fucking entire world mourns you like they know you, you know, you're a pretty special person, I think.

And I think she was.

I think she was.

Absolutely.

I mean, but like I said, but I bringing up the bandwagoneers who are like, oh, I love Betty White.

It's so ironic.

I'm in my 20s and I love Betty White.

Did you ever see an episode of Mary Tyler Moore?

Fuck off if you haven't.

I don't want to hear that you're a fan of Betty White.

Their entire touchstone is Golden Girls on some sort of

syndication.

Otherwise, they wouldn't know who the fuck Betty White was.

They wouldn't know her long and storied career.

Yeah, but

that's like saying you only know Jesus from the Bible.

Like, it's okay.

Like, he, like, that,

you know, I mean, Golden Girls is good enough and still awesome enough to do that.

That's what I'm saying.

It's all nice.

And then you get people who are overshadowed to the point where, like, it's not even in the headlines.

Like, Peter Bogdanovich died.

Yeah.

Sidney Poitier died.

Yes.

I saw that way down in the list of shit going on.

I've heard of Sidney Sidney Pottier.

I'm not Peter who?

Peter Bogdanovich.

He was a director, actor.

He was in the Sopranos.

He was Jennifer Melfie's

psychiatrist.

Okay, no, I can't put a face to the name then.

No.

Big time.

What is this big movie you directed?

Last Picture Show?

Oh, so he's talking old school.

He's old school, okay.

60s, 70s.

Oh, he might have been even older, yeah.

No, I meant the decade.

Oh, yeah, probably 70s.

Yeah.

Probably 70s, maybe a little into the 80s, a little bit.

I think he might have directed Star 80, which is a fucking great movie.

Let me look that up real fast while we're talking.

Yeah.

But yeah, a lot of celebrity deaths coming down the pike.

It's just getting started.

We're fucking barely a weekend.

I know.

We're losing legends.

Honestly, I didn't know Sidney Poitier was still alive.

I guess he was he not healthy?

I wonder if he had like dementia or something the last few years that he disappeared.

Because he's another legend.

Yeah.

He's you know and great actor,

but he hasn't been around lately.

Maybe he was sick.

Decades, you would think.

I would not have known he was still alive, for sure.

Yeah.

It is crazy.

Like, I always said, like, when I was a kid, I was like, man, like one day Harrison Ford's going to die, or one day Bill Murray's going to die.

And I couldn't imagine it.

And I'm like, now we're getting so close to these things that I'm like, oh, my God, like, people are dying.

When's my turn?

Am I next?

I don't want to be next.

What did you do for New Year?

What did I do for New Year's?

Nothing.

Nothing.

Yeah, I mean, you know, New Year's is typically an amateur night, but with COVID and everything going on, I was just, I just stayed home.

What am I going to do?

Yeah, I didn't even get to do my yearly trip to Troy's.

Mary Beth wasn't feeling too well, and it was like

there's no at-home COVID tests around to get.

You can't buy them at a fucking grocery or at a pharmacy.

So I was like, I don't know, rather than go and spread it around and fucking kill somebody.

We took the audience.

You thought she was sick with COVID?

No, she didn't have COVID, but she had a couple of the symptoms that looked like she may have.

Yeah.

No, it's just home.

Better to

save her.

I played some games at my mother-in-law's.

Some short games.

It was like a

hot dog belt.

It was like a

short belt.

I brought the hot dog belt.

Put the pump in between the knees.

Who's first?

Who's first?

It was like a charade game where you drew a card and you had like six things on a card that you had to act out.

But we did it because it was me and my wife versus my mother-in-law and my youngest daughter.

And we did it where, like, if you couldn't act it out, then you could describe it without using the words.

Okay.

And yeah, we did that

probably for like, you know, two and a half hours.

I played that game.

And then I was like, holy shit, there's still six hours to the fucking ball drops.

I had the.

I had that Key West cam.

I was texting you a little bit about it, Briar, like that night.

Like,

there's this cam.

There's this bar called Irish Kevins in Key West, and there's a bar called Sloppy Joe's in Key West, and they both have these webcams, Walt.

And I just put them on my TV, and just like as I walk about my day, it's like almost like my screensaver for my television type thing.

And I just fucking love watching people fucking go and do their thing, and it gets so packed on New Year's Eve.

Like it was like, there was like no, nobody gave a fuck about COVID.

There wasn't a mask in sight.

Like everybody was just packed in.

So I watched the conch shell drop and stuff like that.

It was fun.

It was fun.

I like watching people watching.

Did it make you wish you were there?

Or were you like, nah, I don't want to be around all those people?

I don't.

I didn't make it.

It made me wish we didn't live now and I was there.

Right, right.

But, but I, then no part of me was like, I should have gone down there.

Yeah.

But I love it.

It felt like

it felt like, you know, sitting in a bar with a window, looking out at people walking down the street.

It was kind of fun.

Yeah.

I'm a sad, lonely person.

We decided just, you know, obviously she wasn't feeling that great, so we decided to just stay in.

So we were in bed, we're watching TV, and all of a sudden I hear like, boom, boom, boom, boom, like on the door.

I was like, what the fuck?

It was like the cops were like, I got swatted or something.

And I go downstairs, and it's Eric and Edgar.

Happy New Year.

No, not really.

No, because, you know, Eric had come down for the.

What the fuck did you say?

Eric had come down for the Christmas break, so he was staying at Pam and Edgar's house.

And I guess Eric went out with Darren and Darren's girlfriend and maybe one other person.

I'm not sure.

And Darren, you know, and this is like 9 o'clock.

I guess by this point he had too much to drink.

And

he's not like.

He's not a fun drunk.

He's not a fun, sober guy.

No.

He's intense.

Yeah.

He has has an intensity about him.

You're right.

You know, I mean, he's got a good sense of humor.

I think he's so quick-witted, and he, and both your brothers are, man.

I really like them.

But that motherfucker is intense.

You can say the wrong thing, and you know that, like, you know.

You're getting smacked in the back of the head.

So

I'm almost saddened to hear he's not like, like, alcohol doesn't do the opposite.

It just magnifies that intensity.

Yeah.

And he wasn't drinking for a while, too.

Like, I think he realized, like, alcohol is not my friend.

And then I guess he started drinking again not too long ago.

And

there was, I wasn't, I can't, I couldn't pin down what the argument was about.

But it got to a point where Eric was like, I'm just going to stay at your house because if I stay at Pam's, he might come up there, and I don't want to deal with him.

It was that.

fucking harrowing.

It was that, yeah, it was that bad.

So we rang in the, we ended up bringing in the New Year with Eric.

And like, I didn't have, my phone was upstairs, like, I didn't even hear it.

Do Did you have plans for a more romantic New Year's Eve to bring to drop the ball in a different way?

Yeah, me trying to muscle her into a blowjob.

And she's like, I don't feel well.

And this was, it's New Year's.

This is a cramp in your plans?

No, no, it definitely wasn't.

We just, we sat downstairs and shot the shit.

And Darren was calling, but I wasn't picking up because I just don't want to deal with talking to a drunk person.

I just don't.

And I know he's going to.

And then

he was, I guess, on the phone with,

he called Eric.

Eric picked up, but it was the girlfriend.

And

he can hear Darren in the background yelling about how Eric was suicidal and he was just looking out for him.

And Eric's like, tell him to stop fucking saying that shit.

One, it's not true.

Two, he's like, what does he want me to lose my fucking medical license or something?

Like, what is the matter with him?

So that's how that went.

This sounds like a fun fucking New Year's Eve, man.

Like, I'm playing games.

My webcam was in the wrong spot.

Right.

This sounds like an exciting, like, anything can happen New Year's Eve.

I'm on the edge of my seat.

Mary Beth made some pretzel nuggets.

We watched the ball drop on YouTube since I don't have cable.

It was pixelating and freezing.

I'm like, what year is it?

What year is it?

So, yeah, New Year's 2022, that's how it was rung in.

And I don't think they spoke after

that.

No, no, no.

The lesson of Rob Bruce

they didn't learn that sometimes it's too late to do that.

I don't think so.

Not yet.

And then on top of it, when Eric got home, he got COVID.

Or at least he thinks he has it because

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Yeah, they're mild.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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Like everybody I know

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It's fucking nuts right now, man.

They were saying, I was watching some scientists on

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a whole hell of a lot of people are going to get infected oh yeah but like in six to ten weeks though like with amount this amount of infections

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All right, this is getting a little bit too suspicious.

We also got AIDS.

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well the big news q is your news of course people have been uh

bothering me

bothering you uh this joker's news oh joe leaving the show joe leaving the show and i don't want i'm like what do you want me to say to you other than what you fucking just read in variety or or a daily hollywood reporter or whatever the fuck what do you what do you think i know

Yeah, I don't know.

It seems pretty straightforward.

Look,

the only thing I'll say that's new information is like, I was fucking shocked when I found out, too.

You know what I mean?

Like, I didn't necessarily see that coming.

But, you know,

he's a friend, and I'm not going to talk about his personal life, which is clearly where he's gone to dwell now.

So it is what it is.

But yeah,

I could talk about the show.

Happy to talk about the show,

which is we're back to work and we're finding

you know, we're, we're working, you know, it's like, look, man, it's a fucking it's a initially we didn't even know, you know, we're like, can we even,

is this even worth doing without Joe?

But, like, you just look at it and you're like,

yeah, I want to keep doing it.

Like, I don't want to not do it just because, like, if I left the show, I wouldn't want the guys to stop just because I left type thing.

And, and,

and now,

and look, like,

fuck, man.

like, there are so many negatives to Joe not being there.

Like, we're losing a comedic powerhouse and stuff, but, like, there's nothing we can do, I guess, than just

accept that Liz will liz and give ourselves permission to have fun.

And once I got through that feeling,

it's been a fucking blast.

It's like, it's almost like a new show now.

Isn't that weird?

Like, it's like a fucking

You know, he was so

instrumental behind the scenes, and that's just gone now.

So it's like this new vacuum that you can only fill in parts of it here and there and everywhere.

And it's like, but dude, like,

the show,

it's going to be a fucking, it's going to be a bit weirder

going forward, man.

Yeah, like, I'm able to get like a little more of my shit.

Like, you know, you know how I like Tellum.

How it should have been from the beginning?

No, no, no, no.

The show was successful because the four of us complimented each other's parts and then blocked perhaps some negative parts of each other.

You know what I mean?

This week, Q takes a shit on someone's grave.

No, nothing like that.

No, no, no.

It's not going full tell them, Steve Dave.

But I am getting in some fun, weird shit now.

And

it's kind of revitalized the show.

I think this is actually going to give the show legs

that we're getting tired, if that makes sense.

Right, because the show had a format, the show had a formula, and that's what you did.

And now it forces you to think in different ways.

Dude, I was in like a two-hour meeting about the opening credits the other day.

I was like, when the fuck did I, I don't think I ever cared about the opening credits.

You know what I mean?

I'm like, I don't give a shit.

Like, but we're like thoughtfully rethinking the entire like show.

And like now, we're like, well, fuck, the biggest change has already happened.

So we could start making little adjustments to the actual format to allow us, because there was always things that we wanted to do, but we couldn't do because it just didn't fit on a practical joker's in the format.

And now I'm just like, well, fuck it.

Let's start breaking format here and there.

I think people are going to fucking,

I mean, I wouldn't do it if I didn't think people were going to like it.

I think people are going to be really surprised at what we end up doing.

It's going to be great.

I mean, I'm more invested and more involved and having more fun than I've had in a long time.

So it's good.

Well, it's good to hear it.

From that angle.

From that angle.

You know what I mean?

How's the challenges of trying to do it?

Now you're back to filming?

Yet or no?

We start filming next week.

So those are a lot of challenges with Omnicrom?

No, I mean, nothing we didn't deal with last year, like when we shot the first part of the season last year,

we dealt in COVID.

It's, you know, just follow the science and just every, there's very specific rules and stuff like that, which we already learned how to work around.

So I don't think that it'll.

Okay.

I didn't know if there was more restrictions or more things that like from this year from last year.

No, about the same.

And like you said, I think I'm hoping this summer will be a little bit different because we have have

nine episodes to shoot with season nine still, and then 17 or 18 episodes with season 10.

So, we're going to be shooting for the rest of the year.

So, hopefully, it chills out a little bit.

But, hopefully, yeah,

a lot of scientists think it will.

You know, it will

die down a little bit when it gets a little warmer.

Yeah,

yeah, I would just say, you know, anybody listening who watches the show, like, you know, hey, stick with us.

Hey, you remember your pals, the other three.

Stick with us.

Stick with us.

Yeah, no, it's going to be good.

And my other philosophy, too, is just like, all right, let's say season 10 is the last season, which I, in my heart of hearts, don't think it will be.

I'm like, I'd rather, if we have this runway and we know we have 27 episodes to make,

let's just fucking go balls to the wall and like really fucking go.

You know what I mean?

Like fucking go for it.

Because if it is the last season,

look, if it doesn't work and it's the last season, at at least I went out doing fucking shit that I want.

It's probably gonna be the, in terms of me, the most pure season of me getting to fuck like I want to fuck, like type stuff, you know what I mean?

Whereas, um, so, and if it works, even fucking better, and if it doesn't, hey, man, I went out doing it that way, so I think it's gonna be great,

all right.

Well, the official word, I don't know, yeah, I mean, I didn't, you know, that's I don't know if that sounds like I didn't.

Have you done any press about this before this?

No, Oh, so this is an exclusive.

It's a scoop.

This is an exclusive.

We could get picked up by major news organizations, though, right?

Or Good Morning America.

Yeah, Coda and Kathy, or whatever the fuck their name is.

Yeah, it's like candy, man.

I don't want to say it.

And then they fucking.

Got you.

Gotcha.

We'll catch you.

But that's that.

Yeah.

So, you know,

I know some people, you know, the ants would be curious about it, but

there's really nothing to add.

I like reading the message boards on news sites,

like the comments and shit.

Oh, yeah.

Because everybody knows what happened.

Everybody knows why it happened.

Everybody knows what's going to happen.

I mean, I don't even fucking know what the hell happened, and I'm in the middle of it, so I don't know.

Yeah, it's really interesting to see people speculate, but as if it were fact.

Yeah,

people are always going to do that.

And it's just like, I mean, you know, I get it.

You know, what else are you going to do?

Everybody's in their fucking house.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like I said, I don't even fucking understand the whole thing.

But when have I ever understood anything?

It's good, though.

It's good that it keeps on keeping on, though.

That's what we like to see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's great.

It's going to be

everything that people love minus something, but plus more.

Right.

So, you know, that's all.

I had this

story I wanted to ask you about, Walt, because

you're the resident sports guy.

Okay.

And now it's not fucking coming up, of course.

But

it was about this girls team in Connecticut that I guess they got fucking romped big time.

What kind of sport?

It was girls' basketball.

Okay.

And it was like 94-0 or something like that, or 94-4 or something like that.

And they suspended the coach.

Oh, for running the score up?

For running the score like that, and the school apologized for letting the score run up.

Now, is this

a slippery slope?

No, that's a slippery slope, though, because

on one hand, you know, that's the stuff

that

Disney movies are made of.

Because next year, that team that got beat 94-4, that gives them fuel

to now make them pay in the rematch

the next time they meet.

Where a bunch of

square pegs who can't fit in any hole, they come together, misfits,

who only scored four points.

Now they score enough to win in the rematch, though.

Now you've taken that away, though.

Because of the suspension and the

apology and not running the score up.

We're sorry.

We're sorry you guys suck.

You know, I mean, but you're also you're pad in stats, though.

You know, that isn't fair to previous record holders of that school who may have, you know, are like, okay, yeah, but you beat that team that can only score four points, though.

Right.

And you're, you know, so I get it.

I see both sides of the story.

I mean, who wants to be a part of a team that gets trounced?

And then it gets picked up by national media, though.

Yeah.

That doesn't help either.

So

I would imagine if I would have just let that one,

you know,

not made a big deal about that and hope that the national media didn't pick it up.

Isn't it, though, like, because I was, I kind of felt like, look, you're the coach of the team who's gotten romped.

Isn't it up to you to forfeit to be like, look, I'm not going to want to embarrass my girls.

You don't want to quit either, though.

That's not a good sign either.

All right.

So, look, BQ, you're the coach

of the team.

That scored 94 is up 94 to 4.

What do you do?

Yeah.

I probably, at some point in that slaughter, go talk to the coach of the opposing team and be like, What do you want to do here?

Like, are you asking me to quit?

Yeah, well, you wait

like Disney.

Or do we come back next year?

All right, game on.

Are you insinuating I quit, sir?

Did I tell my girls to lie down?

Hope you liked your job.

Piece of shit.

There's no winning in anything you can say.

All I said was, what do you want to do here?

I asked the question.

All right.

Now you're the other coach.

Yeah.

You're the team with four points.

You're the coach.

What do you do?

I think you just, if you yell at the girls louder, they'll get out there and start winning some fucking, like, like scoring some points.

Stop playing like girls.

Yeah, like, I thought you doubled it.

Like, I don't think he was riding them hard enough.

I think you really got to fucking,

you know, you start grinding them down.

Get him out.

You start to distance yourself.

Like, you know, you start going like, you know, I'm a much better coach than this.

You start like saying that to the other coach, and you're like, I'm stuck with all these.

I think I start yelling about how embarrassing they are to the players, but loud enough that everybody could hear me.

So they know that I have nothing to do with these fucking kids.

You say real cold shit.

Like, what is this?

A trial for the Special Olympics?

What's going on, girls?

Oh, no.

You like that job?

No, I mean, in all seriousness, I mean, look, you know, you try and turn.

I would imagine that anybody worth their salt is trying to turn that into a valuable lesson for them, right?

I would think so.

What about you, bro?

What if you're just a parent of one of the kids?

You're a parent of the teen crushing.

Are you?

Oh, wait, I am.

You're a parent of one of the girls on the team that's crushing the other team.

Right.

What do you hope that do you want your

team that your daughter's on to continue?

Or are you looking to take your foot off the pedal?

Well, they had already pulled out like the second and third stringers.

So even the people that suck on the team that's crushing

were still keeping it up.

The team that was getting crushed had no hope at all.

I think I would just sit there and watch it.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't think.

It's a lot easier because, go ahead.

Yeah, because I would want to go down to the coach and be like, you should probably forfeit.

Like, don't do this to these girls.

Like, there's just no fucking way they're going to come out of this feeling anything but absolutely horrible.

But

if I'm on the team getting crushed, I definitely say that to them.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

You say throw in the towel.

No mosque.

No mosque.

Yeah, I mean, come on.

They're almost up to 100 points.

Oh, that's not good either.

I'd be like, usually girls basketball gets up to 100 points over the course of four games.

That's the kind of shit that builds character for later in life.

Getting squashed?

Yeah, because you took it and

you didn't bow.

You took your beating and you just stood there and you just took it and you didn't quit.

You didn't run away.

Just take it.

I'd write a lengthy Facebook post about how my daughter sucked.

It's distincting yourself from your daughter.

I don't know.

I'm not the one who taught her it's a coach, I guess.

It's her mother's fault.

Yeah,

that's a tough one because we've seen that in real life before, too.

Like in high school, I remembered

teams getting trounced, like our girls' team getting trounced.

And they, I mean, they just went on.

What are you going to do?

It's fucking, it's like junior high basketball.

It's not the fucking NBA or WNBA.

I'm a believer, though, that like you just, you'd never quit.

And that's how you earn the respect.

By quitting, you'll never get anybody's respect, though.

Yeah.

You just continue to fight.

And like I said, what a story it'll be when that team fucking rises and crushes that team.

Ain't happening, but.

It's not going to happen.

But when they do the movie,

take a little bit, revisionist history.

They change little things here and there, and then that team wins the next rematch, even though it probably didn't happen in real life.

Yeah.

Or you make it one of those, you know how some sports movies take the tack that the team is so bad that even like a even like a single is enough for the team to celebrate.

You know what I mean?

Like, and it becomes an, it's almost like the end of like Animal House, where the losers are like, we're fucking losers.

losers.

Right, bad news bears, right?

They lost and they won.

In losing, they won.

Yeah.

Like there's, there's a beauty there.

Yeah.

No, if you quit, though,

I don't think you do.

I don't think it helps in any way, shape, or form other than immediate, like it's over.

The immediacy that it's over, but it's really not over.

You're just going to keep hearing about it.

You might be right.

You know, I might be rethinking this.

It would be a harsh lesson to learn that, like, look, your team is not good.

And you're not helping them any because otherwise you'd be scoring.

So you suck too.

But, yeah, like, what's to be gained by throwing in the toe?

Other than just, like, it stops for that, you know, for that.

The pain stops.

The pain stops.

By God, if it gets picked up by the national media, though, then it's really horrible.

And then everybody's on that.

Like, there's no winner then.

Like, there's the people that are like, fuck those fucking losers.

And then there's the other people that are like, who those jerks who ran up the score.

Yeah, those assholes who ran up the score.

Showing off.

Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

What kind of, what kind of, I'm sorry, Kio, I wanted to ask you, what kind of

like, let's say you were involved in something like that, would you want to run up the score?

Or would you feel

no?

I wouldn't.

My friend's daughter, the guy who directed the Practical Jokers movie, his daughter is a great, she, I think she's in college now or no, high school, but she's high school.

She's a great player.

She's a very tall player.

And she's so good that she told me,

I was out to dinner with the family that during games, she will purposely ask to be taken out of the game if she's showing up the other kids too much

or will purposely pass the ball to her teammates.

to give them a chance just because sometimes she's that good she'll like

she'll And I always thought, I was very impressed, like you know, you're talking about a 14, 15-year-old girl.

Like, I was very impressed by that level of insight and kindness.

So, I would like to think that that's what I would do.

Yeah,

I'm with you.

I'd like to think I might do that, but you're an awfully competitive guy.

I don't know if I would.

I feel like I fear that I would in your face.

Yeah, I fear like given that kind of like mastery over my opponent, could I help myself to not continue to just go off?

I mean, my wife on New Year's Eve was looking at me when she was like, let my mother-in-law win a few rounds.

And I was like, no.

I was like, why?

Why do we need to throw the games?

I mean, it's not like she's going to feel any kind of accomplishment if I throw the charade round.

So I refuse to.

Good for you.

Let that be the lesson to you.

One of the clues was pitter-patter.

And I was like, and I know my wife,

I gave her such awesome clues, and she didn't get it.

And I was like, you're not trying anymore.

Oh, he thinks she's trying to throw the game?

Yeah, because she didn't want to run the score up.

I wouldn't be happy about that.

You guys got to be on the same page, man.

Yeah, I told her that, you know, next year

she's not my partner.

You're not coming.

Yeah, it was actually the Connecticut High School suspended the basketball coach and apologizes after a 92-4 win.

Through three quarters, the score was a whopping 80-0.

They didn't even get on the board.

They didn't even get on the board.

The third-year coach of the Sacred Heart Sharks has been suspended for one game as the dominant win did not align with the school's teaching and principles.

But isn't the object to win?

I know they're like, oh, winning isn't everything.

But if you're fucking playing a game, isn't winning everything?

Yeah, but you're not playing at the family table with beloved family

where you can have fun and trash talk and shit like that.

I don't know if humiliation is

young girls who

it may set them back.

It may hurt their development.

I don't know.

Some kids are going to be, like I said, it'll be fuel for them to make themselves better.

Some kids, it'll just be like, the same for me.

I can quit.

Yeah.

And either way, it's fine, right?

Yeah, I guess.

But you don't know if that person who quit, maybe if they had stuck with it, maybe they would have become really good or whatever.

Well, then they're a fucking loser and they don't deserve it.

Oh, man.

Who are these kids?

Where are they from?

Connecticut.

Take a quick ride up there, Q.

Lift them around.

The next big pep talk in the locker room.

Yeah, I'm like, all right, ladies.

Are you guys fucked it up so far?

It's time for the fucking impression.

He's in the girls' locker room?

I'm the new coach.

I got the whistle.

I got the hat.

Okay.

I'm like, that's it, ladies.

Like, this is the season.

They're like, we fucking love that Joe.

Joe's our favorite.

And I'm like, ah, fuck.

Why did you chase Joe away?

Oh, no.

Yeah, it seems like that's just the way it was.

That's a good bit, though, right?

If you could convince the school to like, you're filling in as a coach and the other school doesn't know.

Yeah.

Completely

do some bits in front of, like, to,

I don't know.

That would just be hard, though.

You're too, you're too, your face is too recognizable.

Can you get some plastic surgery?

Just make like the Joker and cut my face off.

No, yeah, high schools, we couldn't really match.

The kids know too much.

You know, we need people that are a little defeated by life, that aren't keeping their eyes up.

We need people in their 30s and 40s to fuck with

thinking about life and how hard it is, and they don't notice the joking.

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That was last week.

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Q, you know what?

I was wondering

with the departure of Joe.

I know that when

Artie left the Howard Stern show.

Yeah.

The seat wasn't even cooled down before there were comics jumping in there trying to become

trying to get

the arty chair.

Did you guys find any comedians coming up and being like, I'll be the Joker, I'll be the fourth Joker?

No, no, not really.

We've got a lot of fans saying that, saying, like, I'll do it, I'll do it.

But no, we haven't any had any, I mean, who could you even put in that fucking spot that wouldn't get slaughtered?

That's a rough one.

Yeah.

But you know what?

If I was a comedian,

I would be like, I'll fucking take it.

I don't care.

I'll take the slings and arrows to be on a hit TV show and get the chance to prove myself.

But

those, I don't see that.

I don't think we're rushing out to

put anybody in that spot.

You could never look at social media ever if you jumped into that fourth spot.

No, I mean, I'm already not looking at it.

You know,

I looked a little bit at first, and it was, you know, there's only so much times you could read that you suck and that, you know, the show's going to suck now and the show's over before you're like, all right.

I mean, a lot of people were very, a lot,

I have to be said, like, I wasn't surprised, but I was pleased by how many, like, you know, Practical Jokers fans who have always been a cut above have been like, hey, man, like, you know, I'm supporting the three guys no matter what.

Like, we, you know, which I thought was cool.

But a lot of people were also like,

you know, throwing dirt on the coffin.

Yeah, and you wonder why.

You wonder why it's like, look, this is

here's a decision that Joe made.

Why do we got to take the brunt of all the hate and shit?

No, like I said, most people have been good, but it's just like, well, what do you want me to do?

Like, I don't want to stop doing it.

Right.

What am I supposed to stop?

Because somebody else wants to stop.

I don't see it just to get another TV show, like to pitch another TV show to try and make people laugh with my friends.

I'm like, I already got it.

Right.

You know.

A lot of the stuff I saw was

like in defense of Joe in terms of like he had to do what he had to do, fuck off, blah, blah, blah.

I didn't see a lot of negative stuff.

I mean, I saw a couple like Joe's the best, that kind of shit, but I didn't see really see a ton of negative stuff towards you guys or that the show shouldn't continue.

Like,

I personally didn't see a lot of that.

No, not a lot.

It was overwhelmingly people were positive, which is, you know, good to see.

You want to see that.

But it was there.

Some people make a point of reaching reaching out to you on to I don't understand the people that are like

Well, we could well I'm assuming that this isn't an easy time for you you either Brian, but I just thought I'd reach out to you online to tell you that you fucking suck and that the show sucks and that it's not gonna I Like I see him and I'm just like, but what

like what why would you I mean, I guess like you want to take your time out of the day to fucking

try and upset me or rile me and and it's like all right, whatever.

I just mute them.

I don't even block them.

I just mute them.

That's that.

What are you going to do?

There's nothing you can do.

The fuck am I going to do?

What am I going to do?

If this doesn't work out, though, I saw something online, and I know you have a number.

Yeah.

You're a man who likes money, and I know you have a number.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was, I saw a sign, I mean, an article.

My dad and I pose nude together on OnlyFans, and we make a fortune.

Oh,

so me and my dad?

So, it's you and your dad, yeah.

Or just me, or I start an OnlyFans account.

No, it's

it doesn't it hardly looks like a dad.

No, they look like, yeah, like an older brother.

It looks like an older brother, two muscle guys.

But I was wondering if you have a number for you and your dad to pose nude together on OnlyFans.

There's no number for me and my dad.

But if you told me, if you said to me, like, all right, Brian, if you start an OnlyFans account and like show your ankles and feet, and you can make a couple of thousand dollars a month, I'd be like, I'll do it.

Yeah, why wouldn't you?

Why wouldn't I?

Why on earth wouldn't I?

I'd go like five inches above the knee.

But that's it.

You can't go above the hill.

No, eventually

you say that when you begin, but eventually it's going higher.

People are going to get tired of the knees.

Yeah, they get tired of the knee.

And all of a sudden, you compromise and you start to like justify.

And well, it's only the tip.

I'm only going to show the tip.

I'm not going to show the whole thing.

That would be great at OnlyFans with just the tip.

Well, I mean, am I telling people it's me in this instance or am I just doing it anonymously, I guess?

Oh, you got to let you know, man.

That's how you get all the views.

Yeah, they're not going to just go for Joe Blow.

They need BQ.

They need my feet, feet, my ankles.

Your tip.

It would be funny to

see

how much money I could do if I did that.

It would be great.

I would really want to know.

Yeah.

Like how much.

I mean, I wouldn't do it just to do it because I don't want to.

I hate making people pay for shit.

You know what I mean?

Even though it's their money, and if they want to pay to look at my fucking ankle, will mine tell them no?

But I just don't want to take people's money for stupid shit.

But I kind of do in this case.

I want to see how much money I can make off it.

Just so we can talk about it on this show.

Well, they're not going to get carried away.

It's half the money because your dad's getting the other half.

No, there's no amount I would do with my dad.

But I would do it with Edgar.

I would do it with Edgar.

Me and Edgar.

Dude, start an OnlyFans account.

Yeah.

That would be less awkward.

Well, no, like, it wouldn't be me and Edgar in compromising situations.

It would be like me and Ed, like, you know, like cute photos of me and Edgar.

Fish, you know, but nude.

Like,

no, no, like me and Edgar having a picnic, and it looks like we're having a great time, or me and Edgar, like, toasting, like at a bar, like, like, looking like we're laughing and posting them.

Me and Edgar fishing.

There are people who

would pay for it.

Want to see Q and Bryce dad having fun like they never did?

You're my only customer.

Yeah.

I was like, wow, that looks like a lot of fun, guys.

When do you think he'll show the tip

you want me to say tell them steve dave sure go ahead i just want to say about the uh about the rob bruce tribute pod

um we're going we'll tweet when it's available we'll tweet when it's available what's your twitter brian uh tell them steve dave and uh i'm at um sunday jeff and bq maybe we can get a a a retweet when it's up but yeah but it's gonna be on band camp we're just with the right now working out the details trying to get the the the um the rob bruce family set up with a Bandcamp account.

So, you know, they're handling the file.

That's all we're handing off.

But as soon as it's ready, we'll tweet it out, and I'm sure we'll announce it also on a future episode of Tell Home Steve Dan.

Yeah, we'll let you know where you can go to get it.

I wish you had told me.

I would have been part of it.

Like, maybe, can I record an intro for it or something?

Yeah, you know, absolutely.

You know, again, I wasn't sure how much of a

interaction you had with the man because

I racked my brain.

And other than that overkill special, I mean, overkill episode, I didn't recall

if you had any interactions with Robert, but you know, I'm sorry.

No, it's all right.

I also don't want people to think that I was like, I'm not doing that.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Like, I would have done it.

My ass is covered?

All right, great, excellent, great.