#423: The One Where They Seem Comatose

He can rape anybody he wants, he's Dr.

Peter Venkman.

Ming's my foreign friend.

That's the Spanish fly of retail.

Tell them, Steve, Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell'em Steve Dave.

We're rocking, we're rolling, all of that.

I know two of us while at this table have seen Joker.

You would be right on that.

Only two of us.

You didn't go.

I didn't go.

What made you not go?

I was watching football.

That was my only day off, and I was like, do I want to go to movies or I want to watch football?

Football one out.

Football one.

Yeah, I'll go see it.

I'm going to get there.

I already spoiled the entire movie for Walt.

Oh, did you?

I wanted him.

I'm not a guy that cares about spoilers.

I'm not a fucking adult.

The only thing I didn't tell him was the full breadth and length of the talk show scene at the end.

Oh, okay.

Other than that, I ruined the whole movie for him.

Okay.

Not at all.

Did you feel like,

I mean, I know why they would put Joker on it because it gets people's attention, but it could have been anybody, right?

It could have just been a guy.

No, I don't think so.

I thought it was a legit Joker.

I like the way they tied Bruce Wayne into it.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

I thought.

Yeah, I mean,

here's the thing that I've said about this thing.

Just because, Walt, I think you'll agree with this without even seeing the movie.

Just because we read comics and we know we're already fluent in the history of different versions of characters and different takes on characters that i welcome it like i like that it wasn't very comic booky right yeah me too yeah i liked it a lot it was very dark very gritty uh i can't say that i saw anything that i'm like this is mind-blowingly new or cutting edge

but he he was

it was it was amazing how good he was there were two parts that i was there was one that i was like i know i know these guys are gonna love this part there were two now that i'm thinking of it one in the uh, when he's doing that dance in the children's hospital and the fucking

slap so fucking hard, yeah, that was great, and then the midget with the fucking door, a little person with the door with the fucking uh chain.

Yeah, oh god, I was like, that was a tense scene, man.

I was like, please don't kill that cat.

I was like, I don't want that guy to die, but on one hand, it's like you saw Rob Zombies Halloween.

Yeah, the one thing I respected about it

there were hardly anything to respect respect about.

Yeah, when Michael Myers killed Danny Trajo, even after he looked after him for 20 years, was the only guy who was nice to him.

Yeah.

And he's like,

that's a psychopath.

Yeah, I thought the joke came across pretty crazy in this one.

Oh, he definitely did.

And I loved at the end how he's like getting his, like, getting rallying everybody.

They're all like.

Well, this is what I said to Walt.

I was like, but the argument could be made that nothing happened.

He was so delusional and crazy.

That's true.

So much much didn't happen in it that at that end, yeah, you're right.

It's not necessarily true.

All those clowns and shit, like, fucking, I don't know, maybe they weren't even there.

It's like, it's, he could have been curled up in a ball on a bed.

So, but I liked it.

I, I don't, I don't think I'd rush to see it again because it's so dreary and like fucking crazy, but I love the 80s look.

It was like.

Did it depress you?

No, it didn't depress me.

It brought me up.

I didn't find it depressing.

I did find it at hard times

not fun to watch.

Right.

But in a good way.

Well, it's, I mean, was it a statement on mental health in the country?

No statements, you don't think?

I don't think so.

I think the only statements were the obvious ones that they put in there so people didn't give a shit.

Yeah.

Like,

like, oh, he couldn't get his drugs, and that's bad.

Like, I think they put a couple of fucking things in there to shut people up.

Because somebody's going to be like, no, this should say something about it.

Firewalls?

The fucking three guys that attack him on a subway were like, like three white guys.

They couldn't have been whiter.

It would have been like the three of us.

No,

it would have been like

because they were in suits and ties, and they were just like

guys like that.

Wall Street guys.

That age.

They're not going to just beat them for no reason.

A guy who's clearly mentally ill and was like not bothering them.

Yeah, I found that.

I was like, well, obviously they're making this.

But actually, then, to be fair, they tied it into the rest of the movie.

There was a reason it was those guys.

But

they'd do well.

Oh, yeah, like the

biggest October opening ever, right?

Do you think comic book movies should be rated R?

Do you think comic book movies should be rated R?

I think

if it calls for it, yeah.

Do you think a Batman tie-in movie should be a rated R?

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah.

I'm okay with it.

You don't think that that kind of

alien like cuts off a gigantic base of people who would want to see the movie?

yeah, not by the looks of that box office

I mean Deadpool was rated R.

Yeah, I

I question if it was the you know like should there be superhero movies that are rated R?

You don't think so?

Well, because if kids come in and they or parents ex like don't expect uh I don't think but it's rated R.

Why can't you just be like it's not for them?

Just like you know any other number of rated R movies

like I didn't make the fucking movie

I don't should there be a Superman movie that's rated R?

I don't think it fits the character

Yeah, he's yeah, Batman's very dark and gritty where Superman, so American Pie, American Apple Pie.

Is he fucking up Nazis?

Like, is it a super violent, like,

he's bashing Nazis' heads open?

But, you know, they have, um,

would it be injustice?

I mean, he ripped fucking Joker's heart right out, Superman.

Yeah, you could

do injustice.

That's a great story.

Yeah.

So, I don't know.

I think it's just the material.

I'd watch it.

I think you think ratings are

a product of

a different world, different generation.

Do we need ratings anymore?

I don't think I don't think they matter anymore.

I don't think it's stopping anybody from watching movies.

I disagree with that.

I think it's a good guide for parents.

On the internet, I don't think that there's anything in a rated R movie that most teenagers or haven't seen already on the internet have been exposed to.

So do you think it's just a matter of studios covering their ass, just being like...

Oh, yeah, they would take a lot of heat if they didn't.

But.

Yeah, it's just, I mean, that's how it started, right?

The just morals and shit.

And somebody decide, just like they do today, decide like, I know what everyone else should see in here, and I've got it figured out for everyone else.

So here's the rating system.

And I think for the most part, it's probably helpful for parents who are like...

You know, like if your kid's 10

and you're going to drop them off.

Do you still drop 10-year-olds off of the movies?

I know they did it with us, but I don't know.

I can do other things with us.

I have no idea if that's appropriate or not.

But the thing that I like about it, the rating system, is like they're saying

these are the parameters of what makes a rated R movie.

This is a rated R movie.

Like, that's the information I'm giving you.

Today, people are like, I don't like that.

So, I don't want them to even make it because I don't want anybody to see it.

I don't want them to tell that joke.

I don't want them to read that book.

I don't want them to see that movie.

I don't want them to hear that song.

I don't find it offensive, so I don't want anybody to see it not like i find it offensive so i'm gonna i don't know stay the away from it not worry about it and that's not how it goes now so really in retrospect the rating system looks like a pretty pretty cool thing yeah

yeah if it if it salves their bullshit here's the information here's the information make the decision on your own whether you want to go see it or not yeah i mean we also we came from a time where like It didn't matter to us either because nobody gave a fuck if it was a rated R movie when you were 13 or 14.

They just let you in.

But I think once these movies hit the streaming services, I don't think ratings mean a shit.

They don't mean anything.

They do not.

They do not.

Yeah, these kids watch hardcore porn.

You think it's going to stop them from watching Joker?

They can because parents can

put settings on their

accounts and stuff like that.

It just goes back to that unfortunate and malign thing called, you know,

responsibility, which fucking nobody wants to ever fucking hear about or talk about anymore.

Well, why shouldn't you raise their child, Q, by, you know, giving in to all these societal sort of standards and demands?

Joker, $55 million budget, which means probably like with all the other bullshit, like 100, say.

Sure.

Lilison, 100.

It's made 105 domestically so far,

plus far in 152.

Jesus Christ.

So, yeah, that's why they don't give a fuck if it was rated or

you couldn't have made that money.

Yeah,

I just think the world we're living, we're moving away from like an R-rated movie being an R-rated comic book movie not performing like a gargantuan.

Well, I mean, I think the thing is, like, there are so many PG

superhero movies that, like,

I think anything that pops up that's different.

People are like, oh man, I'd actually want to go check that out because I got enough quips in Captain America's ass and stuff like that.

Like, I've seen it.

I've seen it fucking 20 times already.

Deadpool made 363,

and Deadpool 2 made 324.

That's a lot.

So that is a lot of money on a budget that you know did not approach it.

There's no way, though, that some kids who shouldn't have been in that theater didn't get in, though, with that kind of box office.

Deadpool 2 Worldwide made $785 million on a $110 million production budget.

On a what budget?

$110.

Oh, I thought you said $10 million.

I was like,

fuck.

$110.

So, yeah, probably a lot of kids who shouldn't have seen it or weren't supposed to see it.

But what the fuck did it like, did any of that shit affected?

I don't think it matters at this point, but I'm just saying, yeah, I just don't know if it's an antiquated, antiquated

system at this point.

Yeah, I don't think it matters.

I don't see it getting taken out of place, but I agree with you.

I think if it were to be studios, we're like, we're not following it anymore, I think they would get such backlash and fucking have to deal with so much fucking nonsense.

It's kind of like cable TV.

They don't put shit on that they could just because they're like, I don't want to hear from the religious right or the housewives or the fucking moral majority or any number of these annoying motherfuckers.

Plus, the name of the game is

Make Money.

Oh, yeah.

That's all anybody cares about.

Yeah, studios probably like, wait, we keep the ratings in.

We don't get any shit, plus, we make all this money.

Did you hear what Sperses said about Marvel movies?

Oh, I heard that, yeah.

He said that they're not movies.

They're not cinematic.

Or they're not cinema.

They're not real cinema.

They're theme parks.

They're not real

films.

Is he wrong?

Yeah, I would say so.

Is he?

Of course.

Why wouldn't he be wrong?

Well, I think what is he saying.

The fuck is Martin Scorsese, the guy who's deciding what's a film and what's not a film?

Hey, if some fucking housewife in Iowa can decide what I get to see on TV.

He's an icon, though.

Doesn't his words hold more weight?

They're an icon on his movies.

Yeah, his movies are fucking phenomenal.

The guy's great.

Might be the greatest director ever, right?

Scorsese?

Yeah, I'm sure that their argument could be made that if it's not him, he's fucking up there in the top five easily or top three even.

So

but that doesn't in fucking my corner of the world that doesn't give him the right to tell me what I can what's a fucking movie and not a movie.

It's just his opinion, right?

Yeah, it's great.

That's a man fucking saying his opinion.

What the fuck?

It didn't go over well.

Because people love those movies.

Well, they love them and they also just want to tell an old man like, sit down, pops.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Even though he's fucking Martin Scourge says he.

I mean,

it doesn't matter.

That's the thing.

It's like, you're right.

It's his opinion.

It doesn't matter.

Just like in social media, all these opinions, they don't really matter.

No.

Not really.

They're only given the weight that someone allows.

So if you're like, fuck it, I don't care.

Not cinema.

Should he have said it?

I think people should be allowed to express their opinions.

But this is interesting, like James Gunn, Joss Whedon.

It's like,

you can't say those Guardians movies aren't.

Like the Marvel shit, is he saying that, like, these are designed with merchandise and theme parks in mind, these movies?

It's not real storytelling.

I think that's what he's saying.

There's not the art is not

there.

It's more like a homogenized

entertainment, and it's

not.

It doesn't appeal to him.

I don't know.

I guess he feels it's not

that it's not worthy of

being on the same level as a real filmmaker.

He criticized the movies for not reflecting people's emotional and psychological experiences as well made as they are.

I don't think that's necessary in every fucking movie ever, Marty.

Do you remember how fucking fun I had with those Guardian the Galaxy movies and that Thor movie, like Ragnarok?

Like, I had a blast in that.

Like, how is that not a valid response, like, emotional response to a movie?

Best part of Guardians 2 is watching Salt Texture the entire thing.

That's not cinema.

Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, are with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances is theme parks.

It isn't the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional psychological experiences to another human being.

I think maybe

Martin Scorsese is like, they're not for me, and then misspoke.

That's the way it seems.

He's now speaking for the actors and the work they're doing.

What if somebody watched one of the Marvel movies like, that changed my life?

That made me.

Oh, I'm sure there's any number of.

You can go online right now and find people by the thousands saying that one of those movies changed their lives.

Yeah, so then what is he talking about?

I think he doesn't know.

He's 90.

He scores a little bit.

No, but he's got to be up there.

He's got to be 80, right?

No, he's got to be older than that.

Yeah, I think so.

I mean, at least when we sit on this podcast and give our opinions, it's almost always prefaced with, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

It's coming from someone who routinely calls themselves stupid i mean all the time willfully ignorant yeah like so so it's like i don't expect anyone to take what we say seriously right and and his should be taken as seriously and joe blow random person on the internet should be taken as seriously yeah oh that's uh that's unrealistic though to think that you can't that the his words don't hold more weight than joe blow to whom though like why would they the country i don't honestly like if i like those movies which i don't it's never occurred to me that they're not real cinema i mean what is that that's like art.

I don't know if it's art or not.

If you say so, fine.

I wouldn't hang it on my wall.

But with something like this, it's like, yeah, Martin Scorsese, technically, maybe the greatest director ever.

Emotionally, one of the greatest directors ever.

But that's not what those movies are.

They're not designed to be that.

Like you said, they're designed to be like an immersive experience almost.

Not like Goodfellas.

It's like Goodfellas as good as it is or Casino is good as it is.

You're not like, oh, I.

It's not escapist fun.

No, no.

You're like, oh my God.

Like, what animals?

Yeah, where it's like the bad guy doesn't have another dude's head in a vice popping his fucking eye out.

Right.

You know, it's like he's blasting him with a laser, throwing him through a fucking wall.

And it's like, it is, it's that escapist shit that's great.

That's why I don't want to read the new Stephen King.

I don't want to hear.

Fucking political shit from Stephen King.

I want to hear about clowns and dead people and dead people coming back

the grave and dead clowns coming back from the grave and any number of things.

How many

because I haven't read his last four books, I think.

Not for any other reason than I just haven't gotten around to it.

When did that start?

Because I have heard that about him, that like lately his books are getting a bit preachy.

Well, let me look at what he's written recently.

So Scorsese is

how old is this guy?

76.

Okay.

76.

So, yeah, if you think that,

you know, you're in your late teens, early 20s, even in your 30s.

If you think that, like, your mindset is anywhere near an 80-year-old cinematic genius.

That would be like, you know what?

Like, when we were in our teens and the movies we like to watch, and all of a sudden, like, we just saw in a newspaper that

Chaplin was like,

these slasher movies are not real movies.

Could you imagine giving

fucking cares?

Fuck you, little dictator.

Not all.

Like if I want to hear about silent films, I'll fucking pull them on you.

But I don't.

Yeah, but we just fucking harm them.

So shut the fuck up and fuck

like you did when you were acting in those movies.

Yeah.

Silent suited you.

Fucking trip on that movie.

Go walk on a fucking girder.

Yeah, go walk weird.

Hopefully you'll fall.

What a talent.

You'll walk weird.

So do I.

We're really crazy.

This didn't even happen and we're really fucking

it.

It's like he said it.

I think it's, you know, that's what's so sad, though.

It's it's safe because it's, he's so fucking far out of the fucking like support of.

You know, I was.

People right now don't even know who the fuck we're talking about.

There's probably like, there's probably like a rapper now that's like

Charles Chaplin, like three N's or something.

And that's how they get it.

Oh, man, I can't even find his.

oh, book Stephen King.

All right, so this last book

that just came out,

which is what's it called again, Q?

Uh

oh fuck, what is that book called?

The Institute?

The Institute.

Okay, so if you're going back

with because I read the lightning one, though, the electricity one.

Novels, yeah.

Revival.

I read Revival.

That was Revival.

This, yeah, that wasn't bad.

The last one that I remember,

well, he had the three-part series with the detective guy.

Mr.

Mercedes.

That was okay.

And this one, which I stopped reading, the Institute, it was, I heard about the political shit, and I'm like, I don't want to deal with that, but it's the way the kids speak.

And I'm like, this guy has grandchildren.

He must know that kids do not talk like this anymore.

It's like the same speech style as, like, say, it,

you know, when the kids are talking.

Actually, it seemed more realistic.

I'm like, I'm reading this, and it's like, it seems like it's about smart kids who are brought together because they got fucking telepathic shit going on.

And I'm reading the way they're talking, and I don't know if it's like, is he trying to make it sound like how smart kids would talk?

But I'm like, I don't think smart kids talk like they're

saying in Mr.

Mercedes, like the cop that's the main character has that like teenage sidekick.

Oh, the black guy.

Oh, yeah.

And that was annoyed by that kid, too.

Completely unrealistic, the way that kid spoke.

Yeah.

And it's like, look, again, it's like me trying to tell Charlie Chaplin how to fucking walk.

Like, telling Stephen King how to write shit seems silly, but I know what I like, and I don't like that.

I don't like dialogue that doesn't sound realistic from younger people.

Like, I don't know how they would talk.

You know what I do?

I'd go ask a fucking kid.

I'd ask, like, if I want to write about kids, how old is Alicia?

16?

Yeah.

I'd ask her.

I want to know how a 16-year-old kid talks.

What's the latest shit they're saying?

I'm hip.

I'm hip, Alicia.

Somebody tried to tell me that

Peter Venkman

Ghostbusters was an example of a bad character, of a bad person to have in a movie.

Why?

Because

it opens up the scene, then he's trying to screw that

student.

And then at one point, he goes to Dana Barrett's apartment, and she was possessed.

And he's like, he called the other guys and said, I gave her something, something, some amount of drug.

And people are like, so now he's a date rapist, he's carrying drugs around in his pocket.

And I'm like, dude, I'm like,

just

shut the fuck up.

Just shut the fuck up.

Don't do it.

Don't do it.

Is it because you're too sensitive?

Because it's Ghostbusters, though.

It's

like, don't, nobody dare.

Fuck.

Not my Ghostbusters.

No, because I don't care.

He can rape anybody he wants.

He's Dr.

Peter Venkman.

He should be called a cherry buster.

There's no way Dana Barrett still had a cherry.

Yeah, I just feel like, I don't know, man.

I'm like, that's now just the lens we're looking at everything by.

And that's cool if you guys, and I'm cool.

Make those movies.

Make them.

Don't fuck them.

It'll be very exciting.

Could you just leave Bankman alone?

Please, could you just leave Bankman alone?

You're talking about his charms.

Well, what does it matter anymore?

That's the thing.

Like, what does it matter?

Because I like Ghostbusters and the person.

No, I mean, what does it matter to anyone else?

This is a real person or this is.

This happened on Twitter.

He said this to me online the other day.

And it never happens in person.

Because you would never hang out with somebody who would be.

They wouldn't even be in my fucking orbit nighttime.

Like, if somebody said, if I heard someone saying that on my, on like the crew and the TV show, one, they would be new.

Two, they wouldn't be back for the next season.

Okay, I do not want them on this fucking set.

If that's how they're fucking viewing, because you know what you want to say, like, even like on comic book, man, like, there were things said, like, there were things said that it's like, even I

was like, whoa, I can't believe this person said this.

Even though you were the one saying it, I was just like,

but I was like, I was kind of disassociating.

I'll tell you later on, but somebody said something that was probably worse than anything I ever said, even in the cut shit.

Really?

Yeah.

Let me see.

Where's the thing?

Don't worry about it.

Okay, I'll tell you later on.

Yeah, don't get rail.

Fuck, I did.

So, where was I?

It was

just a shit.

Oh, like, like things that we said.

Yeah, you could definitely, like, if you didn't have a cool crew, you would definitely be in trouble.

And it wasn't like nothing was overly sexual, but like, just like off-color jokes and shit.

Yeah, we, we don't do those.

No, even like when you're not shooting stuff.

I always have to be aware.

Everyone, did you hear about the three WAPs who walked into the barber shop?

I could say WAPs, that's no problem.

No, I think even with my crew, and I consider, you know, how much I love

the crew, I consider them family, but even in that dynamic, I'm always aware that

you're one sentence away.

No, no, I don't mean it from like a fear thing.

Or one word.

One word.

No, no, not that at all.

I don't have any fear of that at all.

You're one look, one lustful look away.

No, no, you're not, you're not.

One crotch grab.

I don't think any of that.

My grandmother might have,

I have to be aware that even though I'm friends with them, even though we hang out, even though we get fucking drunk, even though we do all the fun things that we do, like there is

like a balance of

power that if I'm not aware of,

like, I can't talk, you know what I mean?

Like, that can get

make them uncomfortable.

And that's what I care about.

I don't care about the fucking nonsense.

So it's like, so there is this weird fucking thing even with my friends, but I think that's got to end at a certain point.

Like, like when you're making a fucking

shots at Ghostbusters, I think you just got to get

to get off my set.

I don't want you there.

I just don't want you there.

I just don't want you there.

All right.

Like, I shot something

recently in LA, and

the joke was

that I was,

I don't want to say it because it'll get someone in trouble.

But, but there was, there was a, there was an edgy joke in it that wasn't even that fucking edgy.

And the lead actress was like, well, I'm black, and I don't think black people would do or say that.

I happen to have Shay with me.

And Shay was like, fucking, they say that shit all the time.

And it's like, I'm like, well, I'm like, how do you

so like now?

Go tell her.

We told her to tell her.

But you're just like, well, all right, but that's her experience.

So

I can't argue with her because that's her experience.

Right.

But, but you can say, like, well, that's your experience.

I don't know that necessarily that's every black person's experience, which it definitely isn't.

You proved it right away.

It's not, but you don't even want to say that.

So, I think the key is

let me tell you something about white people, honey.

You can't do it.

So, so, I like, really, the key is like, for me, it's like, and look, on Impractical Jokers, we have all fucking stripes, people that work on that show.

But the key is, like, even even like we have we have a trans we have we have a trans she's came out in between seasons her name's sally bulketto

she came to set one day and i don't want to talk about it too much because it's like her experience to talk about but it's like so

but

even with that situation like i feel completely comfortable saying what i want in front of her because

She's not the type of fucking dope that goes on about Peter Venkman and Ghostbusters.

Like, that's what I'm saying.

Like, like, like, I could say, I'm open to everybody's experiences.

I understand all these things.

But the second that you hit that fucking, that granula shit, I'm like, I can't make comedy with you around.

I'm sorry.

I just fucking can't.

You know what?

I really respect

your tone right there because

your world

is so much larger than my world.

I don't have any life experiences with anybody, like anybody different than me.

And I feel

I suffer because of that.

I think you're much more exposed to things.

Oh, I definitely am.

And I agree.

I think there's a.

Walt needs to get his groove back, is what he said.

Remember, Stella got her groove back?

I just tell you, like, because I don't come into contact with a lot of different types of people.

Sure.

And I feel.

Ming's my foreign friend.

I feel.

Foreign bunny, check him in, Wal.

I feel I would be

more.

I don't know.

I don't want to say, not the word's not better, but I would be

a more

rounded, polished person,

I feel.

Because I don't, because like if, like, if all of a sudden like somebody started working here who was.

Yeah, but you work with Ginem, and I don't mean that as a joke, but like he's

got his own challenges,

but I'm talking about like you said, like if we had like I

like you, like you deal with somebody on the set who you said was trans.

Yeah, if someone was started working here that was trans, I wouldn't even know how to, it would be debilitating, though, because I wouldn't know, like, because only because I have no experience.

Word of what shit, Flanagan?

I wouldn't know, like, you know, honestly, I don't see it in a way, but I like fecal transplants.

I just wouldn't know how to, like,

how do you, like, is there a line?

Is there like a not a a tightrope, but is there things that like, they like to be hugging?

Are you eager to just be yourself or

do you be more respectful or do you, like, do you curb things that you, what they, like, might say about, like, if we're watching something and, you know, I mean, I don't know.

It's just.

I find for me, it's like, it's, it's,

one, it's, one, you're not an asshole.

So you wouldn't, like, this person that works on my crew.

And again,

if we can get her on the show, it'd be fascinating because her story's insane.

But like, like, almost every other show that she worked on refused to hire back.

Like, there are people that are like, fuck, fuck.

I don't know how to deal with it.

I don't want to deal with it.

Well, do you think, is it because they don't want to deal with it because they don't know how, like, say, Walt, or they don't want to deal with it because, like, getting a female assistant, you're inviting, like, you feel like you're inviting trouble these days.

No, no, I'm just saying, like, I don't know how.

I don't know.

I wouldn't know what the, what, like, is me worrying about being myself, is that being an asshole, though?

Or, like, if we, oh, yeah, definitely.

No, no, maybe just worried about like, like, me, even me worrying about it.

Is that being an asshole?

No, no.

I think the fact that you're even putting thought to it speaks to

how much better the environment would be here.

Because I think the problem that she was dealing with in other jobs are people are like, fuck it.

I don't want to deal with this.

Like, like, whatever, like, that's fucked up.

I don't want to deal with it.

Whereas you're already putting more thought to it than I don't want them here.

Yeah, I'm not saying that.

I'm just like, but how, like, how would I, yeah, it's like, I worry that me even saying it out loud is like, is being like a jerk because I'm like, well, what do you mean you don't know how you would act?

I don't like know because I never was around

anybody who was.

I said something to her as far as you know.

A few weeks back.

That's right.

Because when she just showed up on set with a no warning, and like I had worked with this person for a few seasons and then showed up like this.

And my first instinct was to make a joke and be like, so what's new?

And I didn't do it.

So I just talked to them like I always talked to them.

And that was fine.

And then at the the recent rap party, I said, hi, I wanted to make that joke.

And she was like, you totally could have fucking made that joke.

Like, that's a funny joke.

So it's.

It's a name change?

Name change.

Yeah.

And I feel like what I've learned in situations is like,

dude, one-on-one, everybody's the fucking, like,

there's no trick to it.

It's like, here's a person, treat them with respect.

Well, that's why you don't overthink it.

Like, that wouldn't occur to me.

Like, how do I deal with this person?

You don't overthink it because I wouldn't want want to say anything that would make anybody uncomfortable or anybody or

nobody cares about making you uncomfortable by saying shit.

I can't imagine there's one fucking person out there that's like, oh, I better not say anything that might offend him.

I better tiptoe around him.

I better walk on eggshells.

Nobody gives a fuck.

So why do I care?

I just want to treat them normally.

I don't have a lot of different experiences with different types of people, though, because I'm stunted.

It's weird you should say that.

The other day I was wondering

when you, I know know you don't like to talk about your demise in 100 years from now, but do you think you, do you think, yeah, do you think you'll go to your grave being like, I'm glad I didn't try all that shit?

Well, I'll be glad or will I be, or will I be regretful?

That's what I mean.

Like, do you think at any point you'll be like,

but I also don't think I'll be regretful.

I don't even think I'll be even thinking about it.

I don't think I'll be thinking about what I didn't do.

I'll be so paralyzed with fear.

Hopefully thinking about like, well, at least I, you know, I'll be thankful for the things I did get to experience.

Yeah.

Like not meeting any trains.

Yeah, I just wish that, like, yeah, I wish I came from a more,

I wish I had just, like I said, like, like, I don't.

But you do, though.

You have the opportunity to go and do it.

You don't want to do it.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Mix with people.

How do you think I know all these people?

Do they go out and do shit?

Well, no, but you know what?

I mean,

I'm starting to, though.

I'm starting to, though.

I think that, like,

but it's not hard, but it's just, it's hard.

It is hard because I live such a like a

deadly routine life.

I don't really come into contact with a lot of people, though.

Yeah, but does that bother you?

You just don't like people.

Well, I feel like, like,

like I said, like, you have like so much more experiences and so many things to draw back on and wisdom and

abilities to handle things that would all be new to me.

So, but, you know, it's not new to you.

I don't think that's the case at all.

I think, I, I think, like, the thing, my whole point was it's like

you know how to treat them.

Just

they're just fucking one-on-one, they're just fucking, it's just a person, like, so it's like, there's no, there's no trick to it.

I think that, and, but,

I would ask them shit non-stop.

Like, like, if I were to, that's, I would just ask questions.

She will tell you anything you want to know.

Um, and but it's like, I don't know, it's it's but I think you're already miles more than you think because I think the average maybe

person in your situation wouldn't even

be concerned about what they're missing.

You know what I mean?

Well, I just think it's

healthier.

Like Edgar is not like.

I never really got to meet any transgenders.

And if I do, how would I deal with it?

Right.

It's just like, you know, like, I mean, I'm surrounded.

It's anyone who's not white or straight male.

It really is.

I'm surrounded by like straight white men.

Yeah, but that's nothing.

None of them handy.

But if you're not setting out to create that environment, if that's just a sound.

It just happens.

But Ming,

I don't ever,

ever think of anything like that he's not a straight white man.

He's just...

Sure, that's what I mean.

One-on-one,

it's fine.

I just wish I had more of this.

Who didn't say so?

It had more of that, like, that, like, that variety.

You just said, though, you were, you're like, you're starting.

What were you starting?

Did you join a club or a group or something?

No, I mean, we had, we have different people working with us now that are come from.

We got ourselves a couple of Mexicans.

There's a guy with red hair.

He's pretty.

I mean, you know,

so like, we're like, it's just opened up.

Have you really not interacted with?

I don't have any interactions.

Yeah, you really don't go anywhere or do anything.

Yeah, and that's, I feel like

the livery guy, but usually I just make him leave the food at the door.

I feel like on my deathbed, I wish I wish I knew more ethnic people, but I'm just saying, like, I do think there is something to it that we, this is a Patreon video, right?

We got to get the transgender girl, Shay,

to get a couple different types of people for Walt to meet.

Like a summit.

I think like, like, um, what is it?

The United Nations summit with Walt.

That would be awesome.

And then we get, look, I'm not going to pretend I know anything about transgender either.

So, like, I would want, I'd be in.

I would want to hear.

She's awesome, man.

She'll tell you everything.

I mean, Walt and Shay on a road trip would be fucking awesome.

I would watch that.

Shay is one of those people.

I'm like, I'm so...

Like...

Like Sal I met through you.

And then I meet Joe through you guys.

And like, Shay is one of those people.

I'm so glad I met through you guys.

Shay is the second AD on a practical joker.

She's been with us since season two and she's just

she's like having like three five she's spunky little black chick she's fucking awesome she's the best man she's just like she's like a firecracker in every sense i i really love her i do she's she's one of the ones on the crew that i'm like like i don't know how i would be able to live without her at this point in my life yeah

yeah but so i would like to see but she's also fucking out there man yeah she's

she's got her own perspective on things

um so it would be cool to see you and Walt hanging out, her and Walt hanging out.

That would be interesting.

Let me, hold on a second.

I got something here, I bet.

We should get Shay on the show.

I wonder why we haven't had Shay on.

You know, it seems like every, you know, I was talking to Murr recently, and Murray's like, how come I've never been on?

And I'm like,

I don't know.

Like, you guys all live so far away that unless like it's a thing.

I think they would have to ask you that question, not us, because you would facilitate that.

I would love for them.

I would fucking argue.

I would love to have Murray on.

The problem is, like, we rap shooting at four o'clock and then it takes me an hour and a half to drive down here and then he lives back in Manhattan I think is the issue.

And then it's like you like it's very difficult to pinpoint what day we're going to record, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you know what?

He moved to Jersey.

Really?

Oh, yeah, moved.

Yeah, yeah.

He moved to Princeton.

Princeton.

He bought a house in Princeton.

Should you be saying it?

He said it's in fucking People Magazine.

It's in People's Magazine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He bought a house in Princeton, so he's next to the college.

Well, I don't want to say, but but like that sort of college is that I don't know.

That would be expensive.

I would be happy to reveal his

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I don't know if he can see anything from it.

But yeah, so he would be easier to get on now.

Oh, yeah, we'd love to have him.

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Going to Europe.

I leave tomorrow.

Are you excited by that?

I'm excited for the shows.

I'm not excited for the travel, but I like to move.

I love Europe.

I love, but I have no time there.

It's like, actually, I do have two days in London, so I'm going to love that.

That'll be a lot of fun.

What are you going to do in London?

What's the one thing you want to do?

I'm just going to see some friends, go to dinner.

Oh, you know, you have friends in London?

Sure.

Ian K.

Morris is out there.

That's right.

That's what happens when you leave the house.

I haven't heard that dude's name in so long.

I didn't know if you guys were still in.

We are.

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Oh, yeah.

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What are you talking about?

You have fucking

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Yeah.

How cosmopolitan.

It's crazy.

I mean, you're like,

I don't know, man.

I envy you.

I put my, you want to hear

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Galaxy's Edge fucking friends.

I put my foot in my mouth the other day in a way that I was like, fucking asshole.

At Comic-Con?

You know the writer, Ed Brisson?

Yeah.

He's writing like,

I read his stuff.

Like, if his name's on a book, I get it.

And

his booth was across from Cullen's.

And I was like, oh, man, I want to go say hi.

He's writing Ghost Rider.

I love Ghost Rider's my favorite.

So I went over there and we were talking and Cullen mentioned Metro, and I don't know why it came out of my mouth, but I said you should do a pin-up for it or something.

And I was like, oh, he's a writer.

I know he's a writer.

Okay, that's what I'm missing here.

He's a writer.

I know.

And he goes, no.

He goes, no, no, I write.

That's right, man.

Pin up one of your page.

But I couldn't say that because, of course, anybody's going to say that.

So I heard he was like, oh, man.

So I just.

Here's what I tried to do.

I tried quoting because that's how well I know his books.

I know lines and scenes from them.

So I started over the course of the conversation sprinkling in lines that he wrote.

I tried to recapture.

But I could tell on his face the.

You had lost him.

I had lost him at that point.

I don't know if I can get him back.

And I felt like such a fucking

dick.

I don't know why it came out.

I was so excited to meet the guy that it just fucking came out.

And I, oh, dude, I felt like such an asshole.

Should I, Q?

Somebody should do.

Yeah, I know, man.

I, I, I, uh,

but, and then another thing happened to me that was pretty fucking good that you're like, these little humiliations.

I went to

Sideshow Collectibles.

I did a tour of their facility.

Wait a minute, a tour of their real facilities or their, or their booth at Comic-Con?

No, no, in LA.

Outside Los Angeles, they have a

where they design everything.

I went and I did a nice tour.

And

can I ask how that came on, how that came to be?

Like, that's not a real, like a real, that's a very uncommon thing.

No, apparently, that's a pretty common thing.

Yeah, me and Ming did it.

Yeah, but like, how did you say to yourself, like, oh, I'm going to go, you know what I want to do today?

It actually started because something I had of theirs, I broke

and I wrote a letter, and it wasn't like, it's cute from a breakfast.

I was like, hey, man, blah, blah, blah.

And they put me on a list, right?

And then at Comic-Con, my

publicist was there talking to someone from Sideshow.

And I said, oh, man, could you do me a favor?

Could you ask if they can get me this lightsaber thing that I broke?

It's just a piece to a Darth Veda thing.

And through that, they found out and invited me.

Okay.

So I go, I go on tour.

It's fuck.

I was, dude, I was supposed to be there.

How long were you there, Brian, when you did your tour?

45 minutes.

Okay, great.

I thought I'd be there for like an hour, two hours.

I was there for six hours.

It was awesome.

We were having so much fun.

I was like going in, showing me everything.

It was like six hours?

Yeah, six hours.

Who else was with you?

It was just me, and uh, I was getting a tour by uh, well, he doesn't always say his name because he doesn't like being, but anyway, there, so some people know me, some people don't, right?

As is the way, and this, so one guy was really excited to see me, and I was talking to him, this guy, Timmy, he was awesome.

We were talking and getting along, and uh, there was another girl that works there who was about 23, 24 years old.

And uh, she goes, so, so, she goes, so what do you have, like a YouTube channel?

She's going to?

And I was like,

I was like, oh, yeah, I got a hell of a YouTube channel.

And she was like, young and cute.

You know what I mean?

And I was like, yes,

I have it.

And then they started making fun of me.

But isn't that nice when someone doesn't know who you are, right?

Did you get the piece?

I did.

Yeah.

Okay, that's why we put six hours in.

That's why we put six hours in.

Come on.

I got it before the tour.

The money he makes, it would take him three minutes just to buy a new one

that he puts in the time for free.

Yeah, so so between the 24-year-old who dismissed me to look at me and I don't care that she's like doesn't know the show what I care is that she looked at me sized me up at 43 years old YouTuber at best looks like he's the type of asshole that would start a YouTube channel at 43 right he eats pizza or any number of stupid things

what have you people like him ironically yeah right so I was like well that's apparently what I look like and then and then the Ed thing happened two days ago, so I'm really like, Oh, and galaxies, the Star Wars thing was Monday, so it was three fucking so right in a row.

You're you've been, you've been uh, taking hits, but taking can't get you swinging and missing, huh?

Yeah, you happen, that's not very uncue-like, very usually, you're just hitting fucking, you're like the babe calling your fucking shots.

Now he's like, Babe in the city, and shit.

Nobody cares about him anymore.

I know Ed doesn't listen to him.

I met Babe Ruth.

Oh, not Babe.

Big in the city.

I'm fucking, dude.

I know Ed doesn't listen, but I wish he did so he could know.

Well, I'm sure somebody will tweet him.

Don't do that.

Yeah, right.

Don't do it.

I'm hurting you.

Now it sounds like I'm just making it up to cover it, and I don't want that.

Just don't do it.

Just leave it alone.

Me and Ed will never cross paths again anymore.

Oh, it's so bad.

So, yeah, I'm having a fucking real low confidence week.

So, you think he's in a slump?

Or

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I think, though, this helps, though, getting out of getting out of country,

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You could get that little bit of that stranger in a strange land vibe.

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Any plans while you're over there?

Just hang out?

I mean, you've been there several times, so there's really like

touristy shit.

Well, Kane Hodder's going to be in Manchester while I'm there.

So I'm going to pall around with him a little bit.

Gonna see a soccer game.

If I can, if the schedule allows, yeah, I'd love to.

um and uh maybe got stabbed it's just a lot of knifings over there in the uk none of the teams i go to the um

it's just show travel show travel it's not really and do you do a bus over there do a bus and and yeah bus and flight combo yeah so there's like you guys take how cool is it to be on a bus going across europe because it must look so different than here right well it's england so it looks a lot like jersey like oh really between towns it's all rolling field like you know how you get through those jersey bits where it's just like freeholding.

Yeah, it looks a lot like that.

But it's pretty.

I mean, it's gorgeous.

You know, you get cheaps and stuff like that.

But yeah, I'm, you know, I wish I was.

But once I'm done with this tour, fucking home for like two months.

I can't wait.

So excited.

It's pretty sweet.

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I haven't seen it.

What do people like it?

Yeah, people are fucking adoring it.

Really?

Good, good, man.

Good.

I want to do more.

Got to do more.

At least do three, like two episodes during that break.

Absolutely.

Can't wait.

All right.

Do you think you could handle Q schedule, though?

Like, let's say

you're not afraid of flying

and you can do all these things.

I know the benefits of what he's doing are astronomical,

but I don't think I could

go and do that level of

what he's doing and not and not just really not be happy.

All right, let me throw this in.

You're traveling with me.

I just that sounds like a dream doing that with you.

Oh my God.

Well, you and I would keep that.

I handle it the least out of the four of us.

I'm not good at it.

Murray and Joe are excellent at it.

Sal's excellent at it too because he does his solo stuff on weekends when we're not touring, but I'm not good at it.

Yeah.

I'm the anchor.

I would be.

I'm the albatross.

I really am.

I think I would be, especially how long you've been doing it now, I just think that I would be,

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You don't like to not sleep in your bed.

I cannot stand to have a schedule.

It drives me nuts to have a schedule.

It is a lot of fun.

There's a lot of fun involving.

But they're different beasts, so yeah.

Yeah, I get you.

Yeah, like when you go somewhere, like

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Yeah, when I have a schedule, like I have something in the far distance that I'm like, oh, I have to do this this day.

I'm like, oh, it just gives me anxiety.

It's weird.

Like, you and Mary Beth, like, I can't identify at all with anxiety.

I got jury theory

in October.

I can't stop thinking about it.

I'm just like, I'm not going.

Am I?

And this really weirds out my mom.

And she's like, what do you mean you're not going?

And I'm like,

you know, that's bullshit.

They're not going to issue a warrant.

They just put you.

You're not there.

No one cares.

Drive over two words.

I'm racist.

They're going to be like, Linda, you're listening to me.

I don't want to say that either, though.

But it just gives me stress.

I don't want to do it.

I don't want to go to jury duty.

I don't want to be, I just don't want to do it.

I don't know.

I think that's every man.

I don't think anyone's like, jury duty.

Like, I think there's any number.

Dude, the number of things I don't want to do every day that I still do.

I just think about it every day, though.

And like, I'm like this dread.

Like, I'm like, oh my God, I got jury duty on October 26th.

I can't do this.

I don't think I can do this.

No, something that far in the distance.

I don't know.

I think about it every day and I'm like, how do I get out of it?

How do I get it?

And Gatim told me that he got a doctor's note to get out of his.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but his condition.

And I'm like, I don't want to go to a doctor's sign of Dr.

Giddle.

I got the street going.

I haven't been to a doctor in so long.

I'm not going to break it for jury duty.

I mean, you might not get chosen anyway, though.

You're pretty upstanding.

See, if you're a fucking piece of shit ex-drug addict like me, they're going to look at you and be like,

he's not sound mind.

He went through two bedroom doors in as many days.

Oh, I don't know.

I'm going to say it right there.

You know, another couple minutes.

No, no, no.

Wait, what were we just talking about?

Jared Duty.

Jared Duty.

Oh, and social anxiety.

Yeah, I can't identify with it at all.

Like, the shit that I see with her, like, not wanting to.

I've seen her hit the deck when the UPS guy comes to the door.

Like, literally fall to the floor so he doesn't see her and say something.

Yeah, I'm not that bad.

It's, dude, it's crazy.

But I read somewhere that millennials don't answer the door.

They find it incredibly strange that someone would come up to your door and knock on it.

I i get that because it's i get that it's just like you know like when a phone ringing you know like a house phone

when our house phone rings now it's just like someone's dead or it's a fucking or it's a one of those cyber calls it makes sense to me too because no one you know is coming by without telling you they're coming by which means it's a stranger at the door it's not like back in the day when nobody yeah it's like hey i wonder what q's up to and walk to your house knock on the door you pull over and get a payphone and fucking put a corner and come and buy you just swung by now

if you if you even think about coming to my house you're gonna be like hey you home and stuff like that.

You know what I mean?

Like, how

we've been friends for decades.

If I showed up to your house unannounced, didn't text or anything, just knocked on your door and you saw me at the door.

Yeah, I would be like, Something's wrong.

Yeah.

He's on something.

Why does it have to be that?

I just always think that.

Usually you're right.

Tell him, Steve, Dave.