Trump's "Liberation Day" Tariffs & Booker's Speech Breaks Senate Record | Melissa Arnot Reid

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Michael Kosta recaps surprising wins for the Democrats, including a victory in the Wisconsin Supreme Court race despite Elon Musk's financial interference, and a record-breaking 25-hour speech by Cory Booker. Plus, Trump launches his "Liberation Day" tariffs, and Republicans scramble to supply cover.

In the first installment of "Mysteries of Donald Trump's Very Very Large A-Brain" Trump explores the word "groceries," a concept he calls "old-fashioned." Then, Grace Kuhlenschmidt educates New York shoppers on the new Trump-era food store lingo.

Melissa Arnot Reid, the first American woman to summit and descend Mount Everest without supplemental oxygen, talks to Michael Kosta about her new memoir, "Enough: Climbing Toward a True Self on Mount Everest.” She opens up about using high-level climbing as a sometimes unhealthy coping mechanism and why her journey to inner peace is a “forever climb.” She also discusses Juniper Fund, the non-profit she co-founded to support high-altitude workers in Nepal.

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What a great audience. Corey Booker bursts bladder.

Speaker 2 America's economy experiments with S ⁇ M and will tell you why Trump would be the worst Instacart shopper ever. Let's get into the headlines, shall we?

Speaker 2 Let's kick things off with that big Supreme Court race in Wisconsin that we've all

Speaker 2 been following closely ever since everyone started telling us how important it was for reasons we tried really hard to understand, but ultimately ended up just taking their word for it.

Speaker 2 Well, last night, despite Elon Musk putting $25 million to back the conservative, the liberal judge won the race. That's right.

Speaker 2 Fuck it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Suck it, Elon. Now you only have $340 billion.

Speaker 2 What are you going to buy with that, dumbass?

Speaker 2 And here's something we haven't said in a while. A second good thing happened for Democrats.

Speaker 1 Update the history books. Last night, Democratic Senator Corey Booker concluded the longest speech in Senate history, clocking in at 25 hours and five minutes.

Speaker 2 He was protesting what he called a crisis brought on by the Trump administration's policies. I don't know how to solve this.
I don't know how to stop us from going down this road.

Speaker 2 But I know who does have the power?

Speaker 2 The people of the United States of America.

Speaker 2 What an amazing day for Corey Booker. Not so great for the C-SPAN cameraman who missed the birth of his first child and kindergarten graduation.
It was a long speech. And

Speaker 2 Booker not only set a new record, he broke the 1957 record held by segregationalist Strom Thurman, a man so racist we never even talk about how weird of a first name Strom is.

Speaker 2 Is that short for Strom Boley? What the hell's going on here?

Speaker 2 You never want a huge racist at the top of the record books. If like the world record for eating the biggest burrito was held by Hitler, someone should probably beat that sooner rather than later.

Speaker 2 And the amazing thing is that Booker didn't just get up there and read from Wikipedia. He stayed focused on condemning the Trump administration's assault on working people and the rule of law.

Speaker 2 So you can imagine that when he was done, the media had a lot of questions for him about these serious issues.

Speaker 1 Does he get any bathroom breaks? Did he have a bathroom break?

Speaker 2 No sitting and no bathroom break. You couldn't take a bathroom break.
How did you not have to use the restroom for 25 hours? Were you wearing anything that

Speaker 2 allowed you to not have to go to the bathroom for 25 hours?

Speaker 2 Senator, Senator, Senator, Senator, PP,

Speaker 2 Senator, a follow-up. Pooh-poo?

Speaker 2 This is why our country is in the shape that it's in. The media won't talk about the substance of his speech.
They'd rather talk about how he held it in for so long. No one cares about that.

Speaker 2 But just out of curiosity,

Speaker 2 how did he do it? My strategy was to stop eating.

Speaker 2 I think I stopped eating on Friday.

Speaker 2 and then to stop drinking the night before I started on Monday. And that had its benefits and it had its really downsides.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 The downside is that he was hungry the whole time, but the benefit is that he can go straight from the Senate floor to his colonoscopy, so that's a bonus.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 that is pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 It's pretty amazing. He didn't eat for three days, although he is a vegan, so that's not much of a sacrifice, you know.

Speaker 2 Oh no, a weekend without tempeh.

Speaker 2 But let's move on, because while Democrats were congratulating themselves for their bladder control, Donald Trump was shitting out a new holiday.

Speaker 1 A big day for the country, President Trump calling it Liberation Day.

Speaker 2 Liberation Day. Liberation Day.

Speaker 1 The world is watching.

Speaker 2 Right. Liberation Day.
That sounds like the fake holiday your friends make up after you get dumped, you know? No, man. No, man.

Speaker 2 Who needs that beautiful, smart, independently wealthy woman in your life when you could die alone? This is your Liberation Day, bro.

Speaker 2 But actually, what is it? Our breaking news just moments ago, President Trump officially announcing widespread, what he calls reciprocal tariffs, at least 10%,

Speaker 2 on practically all goods coming into the United States.

Speaker 3 My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day.

Speaker 3 April 2nd, 2025 will forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn, the day America's destiny was reclaimed.

Speaker 2 Okay, so Liberation Day is just the day that Trump announced new tariffs.

Speaker 2 I kind of doubt this day will be remembered for all of history, but if you give me a day off from work, you can call it whatever you want, to be honest with you. Now,

Speaker 2 you might be thinking, what am I even being liberated from? The ability to afford goods and services? Yes, but

Speaker 2 what Trump is hoping happens

Speaker 2 is that businesses move back to America. But until then, Republicans are preparing Americans for the inevitable rocky road ahead.

Speaker 4 I feel like in some ways in the economy, this is kind of like a kitchen remodel or a bath remodel. There's a bit of a mess at the beginning, but everybody has a long-term look of where we're headed.

Speaker 5 I mean, if you're going to remodel your house to make it better in the end, it's going to be really annoying in the short term when your house is getting remodeled.

Speaker 5 And there's drywall desks everywhere, and there's workers in your living room. The reality is that remodel has got to happen in order to make things stronger and more stable on the back end.

Speaker 2 Great. It's like a home remodel.
I feel much better about tariffs now that you compared it to something famous for costing people way more than they ever expected.

Speaker 2 Nobody.

Speaker 2 Nobody likes a remodel. And they especially don't like the people in charge of the remodel.
Even the homeowners who hired Jesus to be their carpenter hated him.

Speaker 2 Is he seriously going out for another walk on water? I'm going to kill that guy.

Speaker 2 But look, guys, whether you like it or not, Republicans don't want to hear hear your bitching because we all knew this was coming. It's going to be a rocky road and Trump has admitted that.

Speaker 1 Trump has acknowledged that there will be some minor inflationary aspect of that.

Speaker 2 As he begins to realign the economy to put America first. Everybody knows and when they voted in November of 2024, they knew that's what they were voting for.
Yeah, that's right, voters.

Speaker 2 You can belly ache all you want, but we all knew what we were voting for. Trump was very honest during the campaign that tariffs would drive prices higher, right?

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 2 You want to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the U.S.

Speaker 2 How will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher?

Speaker 3 It's not going to drive them higher.

Speaker 2 Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs?

Speaker 3 They're not going to have higher prices.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay. Technically, he said prices wouldn't go up, but in his defense, he was lying.

Speaker 2 And you should have known that, so that's on you.

Speaker 2 but you know what

Speaker 2 yeah perfect some people at fox news would like to know why you're so obsessed with your money in the first place huh there are some things more important than money and the president's trying to tell americans you know there may be a little suffering going on here it's a little volatile right now but people have been very happy and very enthusiastic since the administration was inaugurated look i wouldn't watch the stock market every hour every day i really hope that somehow the average person out there can separate themselves and their mindset from Wall Street.

Speaker 2 Don't get fooled by what's happening in the stock market. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Making money isn't everything. Take it from the guy hosting the show called Making Money.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 Why would you think that making money was something this guy cared about just because it's on the desk and the screen and the wall and the other wall

Speaker 2 life isn't about making oh also another one on that same wall

Speaker 2 but look I get what these guys are saying in the long run these tariffs will make America more prosperous even if in the short run you'll personally will lose all your money so if you're so short-sighted that going broke and dying in a ditch bothers you

Speaker 2 there's a new fox business show you'll definitely want to check out

Speaker 2 you love making money and the big money show.

Speaker 2 And now with Trump's awesome tariffs, Fox Business has a new show, introducing Money Monk.

Speaker 1 Money is just a human fiction. It does not exist.
Especially your money, which does not exist.

Speaker 2 This show will guide you into our new economic reality.

Speaker 1 Ignore the market and find joy in your work, which you have to keep doing now that you can't retire.

Speaker 2 It's the perfect show to unwind with after a shift at your fourth job. How

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Speaker 2 The money monk has all the answers.

Speaker 1 Look inside yourself for nourishment, specifically the organs inside yourself that you can sell for food. Release your greed of wanting both kidneys.

Speaker 2 Money monk, weekdays at eight.

Speaker 1 You mean my portfolio's been wiped out? I will rip your ass straight out of your mouth. Do you me?

Speaker 2 Money monk.

Speaker 2 Enlighten your broke ass.

Speaker 2 When we come back, we'll find out what's inside Trump's brain. Don't go away.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the Daily Show.

Speaker 2 The human brain. It's a three-pound mass of tissue that can comprehend the vastness of our universe.
And remember the lyrics to that bare-naked lady song, Chicken to China, the Chinese Chicken.

Speaker 2 I don't even like that song, f ⁇ you, brain.

Speaker 2 And no brain holds within it more mysteries than that of American president and ketchup-fueled sex machine Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 As fate would have it, the thoughts that dwell inside that brain now affect everyone on earth. So why not try to understand how it works?

Speaker 2 Come with me on a magical scientific voyage in our new segment.

Speaker 2 Donald Trump's very, very large brain.

Speaker 2 A lot of thoughts. have been occupying

Speaker 2 excellent

Speaker 2 A lot of thoughts have been occupying Trump's mind lately. Invading Greenland, boobs, taking over the Panama Canal, boobs, selling Tesla's, and of course, putting tariffs on boobs.

Speaker 2 It's a beautiful, horny mental tapestry. But recently, one mysterious word has been stuck in Trump's brain.

Speaker 3 I went on the border and I won on groceries. It's a very simple word, groceries.
Like almost,

Speaker 3 you know, who uses the word? I started using the word the groceries.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, groceries. I mean, who uses that word except everybody all the time?

Speaker 2 Donald Trump found the word fascinating. And this was not just a fleeting thought.
His brain has been contemplating the word groceries for a while now.

Speaker 3 You know, more people tell me about groceries. The word grocery, I've heard it more in the last

Speaker 3 Year than any other word, I think. Everyone tells me about the word groceries.
You know, you hear the word groceries, you say, really? But I get more complaints about groceries.

Speaker 3 Beautiful but simple word groceries. Sir, my groceries.

Speaker 2 Please, sir, my groceries. What?

Speaker 2 Now, based on that, you might think that Trump has never heard the word groceries until the 2024 campaign and just thought this must be a new slang word, you know?

Speaker 2 He was probably like, Baron, what's groceries? Is that like Riz?

Speaker 2 But if you tunnel deeper into Trump's brain, you find out that he's heard the word before, just not in a long time.

Speaker 3 The cost of groceries, a word that I used a lot on the campaigns, like an old-fashioned word, but it's a beautiful word, very descriptive word. They say my groceries are so much more.

Speaker 3 The term is just like an old term, and it's a beautiful word.

Speaker 3 Groceries, a term I used to use, it's sort of an old-fashioned term, but I used to use it.

Speaker 2 Whoa,

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 2 This raises more questions because

Speaker 2 groceries is not an old-fashioned word. It's a word we use right now to describe groceries.
There's actually no other word for it.

Speaker 2 So now...

Speaker 2 So now I'm wondering, does Donald Trump know what groceries are?

Speaker 3 Groceries, it sort of says a bag with different things in it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 We're on the right track.

Speaker 2 Not all bags with things in them are groceries.

Speaker 2 Can you ask your brain brain to narrow it down a little bit?

Speaker 3 The word grocery, you know, it's sort of simple word, but it sort of means like everything you eat.

Speaker 2 Ah.

Speaker 2 Everything you eat, so simple, so almost correct.

Speaker 2 It says everything, yet absolutely nothing. Let's keep digging.

Speaker 3 You know, such a basic term, groceries. The groceries, they mean every single item of grocery.

Speaker 2 Every.

Speaker 2 Every

Speaker 2 single

Speaker 2 item of grocery. I have to say, I never thought of it like that.
I thought groceries were merely some items of grocery, but every item of grocery.

Speaker 2 And now

Speaker 2 And now his bulging frontal lobe must wrestle with the most important question of all. What, in a cosmic sense, are groceries?

Speaker 3 People tell me about the groceries. The groceries are groceries.
They use the, and what they're talking about is food.

Speaker 2 Ah, at last.

Speaker 2 Enlightenment. Groceries are food.

Speaker 2 Food are groceries. Unless we forget groceries are every single item of grocery.

Speaker 2 And yet Trump's mental journey with groceries goes on, leaving us with more unanswered questions like, has it been so long since he stepped in a grocery store that his brain was like, I don't need this word anymore?

Speaker 2 Or is he just an 80-year-old man whose brain is deteriorating before our eyes? Or, hear me out, maybe he's right. And nobody in America says the word groceries anymore.

Speaker 2 So, we sent Grace Kuhlen Schmidt to find out.

Speaker 1 What do you call this store behind you?

Speaker 2 That's a grocery store.

Speaker 1 No one uses that word anymore.

Speaker 2 Right, that's what I've heard.

Speaker 1 What would you call that kind of store?

Speaker 2 A grocery store?

Speaker 2 That word is so f ⁇ ing old.

Speaker 1 Not a single living person uses the word grocery stores except for you.

Speaker 2 Oh my god, I've been using this word for like 28 years.

Speaker 1 You literally sounded like, hey kids, let's gather around the piccrola.

Speaker 2 It's time to talk about groceries.

Speaker 1 Groceries is like an old-fashioned term.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Like my like great-great-great-grandma used it. Uh-huh.
And like she's dead as shit.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, when someone brings up a dead relative, it's like weird to laugh what's wrong with groceries donald trump says that nobody uses it nobody says it he says it's old-fashioned so trump is a trendsetter he doesn't want to use groceries anymore what do you think we should call them

Speaker 1 i would like selling a light don't care about this i don't know it's something i have to think about i really am blindsided by this yeah who sang these lyrics eat that booty like groceries you know i don't know

Speaker 2 Come on, you know him, you love them. I can tell.
You know him, you love them.

Speaker 2 The Beatles. Oh, the the Beetle.
Yes. Is that Lennon said that? Eat that foodie like Beetle.
It was in Blackbird, I think.

Speaker 1 And I feel like young people like us, we don't even go to stores anymore. We just get everything from the cloud.

Speaker 2 Just from our apps. Food is still on the table.

Speaker 1 Oh, food is 100% on the table. My girlfriend says nom noms.

Speaker 2 Gribble shame.

Speaker 1 Vokeris. Vokeris.
Tummy treats. No, no.

Speaker 1 Mouth stuffers.

Speaker 2 Yeah, mouth stuffers. Yeah, you'll use that one.
Although it conjures some of my past experiences. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Okay, I won't ask any more questions about that.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Grace. We come back.
Melissa Arnott Reed will be joining on the show at Hunter Way.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is the first American woman to summit and descend Mount Everest without supplemental oxygen.

Speaker 2 Her new memoir is called Enough: Climbing Toward a True Self on Mount Everest. Please welcome Melissa Arnott Reed.

Speaker 2 Whoa!

Speaker 2 How fun is that? Oh my god, thank you for coming. Thank you for having me.
Thank you for opening up so much of your personal and professional life in this book.

Speaker 2 You've summited Mount Everest six different times. I have.

Speaker 2 Is there like a loyalty rewards program when you go up and you get a free drink on your seventh time or something like that? Absolutely, 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a lot of walking uphill slowly. And you all just clap for that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 This is a simple question, but

Speaker 2 what is it like? I mean

Speaker 2 the most, the highest I've ever skied is at 13,000 feet. I couldn't breathe.
I was freezing and it was like get down to warmth as fast as I can. Camp 1

Speaker 2 is at 19,000 feet and Mount Everest is 29,000 feet. What is it like to be up there?

Speaker 1 I mean it's really like your experience, but everything is harder.

Speaker 2 So you had six beers with lunch right before you hit the slopes?

Speaker 1 Six beers with lunch, 100%. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 But it must be, it's addicting because so many of the characters in your book, yourself included, organize their entire life

Speaker 2 around this action. And that includes letting everything else in one's life go to shit in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think that there's this idea that when you go and you get that achievement and you receive those accolades,

Speaker 1 you want to go back and do it again.

Speaker 1 But it also feels pretty empty.

Speaker 2 Interesting.

Speaker 1 That's a weird sort of dichotomy. Why does it feel empty?

Speaker 2 You did the thing.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's never enough.

Speaker 2 We were talking backstage, but what is it like to actually exist at elevations like that from like motor skills and sleeping and eating?

Speaker 1 You're not supposed to. You know, we're not supposed to live at those very high altitudes and it feels like you shouldn't be there.
Everything is really, really hard.

Speaker 1 Everything takes a long time to do and it is pretty, but you kind of.

Speaker 2 You can see it right there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's a just below the summit.

Speaker 2 Also, you know what? Technically, that could be anybody.

Speaker 2 It really could be.

Speaker 1 Just below the summit of Everest without oxygen.

Speaker 2 And do you recognize those peaks just from a picture? Like, you know exactly.

Speaker 1 I do. I like to think I do, but I mean, don't give me a tat.
No, that's okay.

Speaker 2 You're just.

Speaker 2 One of the things I love about this book, you can definitely dork out on all the climbing, but you really open up about your personal life and, in particular, the difficulties of your childhood.

Speaker 2 Why was that important for you to share?

Speaker 2 And I'm glad you did.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Yeah.
It's not a book about Everest. It happens to take place on Everest.

Speaker 1 And my career on Everest has really been about achievement and standing on a summit and receiving the accolades of that. And I've always wanted to explain to people, like, there's so much more.

Speaker 1 And it's not all summits.

Speaker 1 And it's actually a lot of dark descent and I wanted a chance to explain that to people and the idea that we can be really flawed and still be deserving of achieving great things.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So often in the book you're describing your personal life in turmoil and then you would say and then I went to Alaska and climbed a glacier and then I biked across Colorado.

Speaker 1 It's called running away.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was going to say.

Speaker 2 Was that the coping strategy and mechanism?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's a really wild thing when going to some of the most deadly places in the world starts to feel more safe than just being in your regular life.

Speaker 1 And now I can say, like, that's probably not healthy. Therapy would have been cheaper, but

Speaker 1 I went to Everest instead.

Speaker 2 Why does climbing Mount Everest without oxygen help you find inner peace, as you describe?

Speaker 2 And did it? Are you at inner peace now? It's probably a little bit of nerves talking to such a celebrity, but like, are you.

Speaker 2 Honestly, yeah. Why is that funny?

Speaker 2 It feels like

Speaker 2 climbers, high-level climbers, it's never enough.

Speaker 2 I mean, you get to the top with oxygen. I can do it without oxygen.
And I want to do it without oxygen. Or I want to do this thing.
I want to do this thing.

Speaker 2 I mean, have you achieved Inner Peace, the ultimate summit?

Speaker 1 You know, the climbing clichés abound, so bear with me here. But, you know, it is a forever journey.

Speaker 1 there is no neat and tidy summit that we arrive on and we're just enough and then we just have the rest of our life yeah it's just kind of a continuous forever climb and I'm on that climb yeah and it's actually weirdly more hard and also more rewarding than climbing Everest for sure.

Speaker 2 I was really laughing at your book when you were struggling. Excuse me.
That's so kind of fun. Excuse me.

Speaker 2 You were struggling so much with relationships with men.

Speaker 2 And then you would go do this feat. And I was like, it might be harder

Speaker 2 to be married than to climb Mount Everest. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It was for me in that era of my life.

Speaker 1 And I wrote an essay about that marriage was my Everest. And it was kind of like the only honest thing I said at that time.

Speaker 1 And it felt like, oh, this is a joke, and people will laugh. And then really, I was like, no, no, no, it's much, much harder to be married than it is to climb Everest.

Speaker 1 And such an unhealed way to live.

Speaker 2 More technical, probably, to climb Everest.

Speaker 2 I don't know. That was meant to be kind of a climbing joke.
That was a good one.

Speaker 2 You got broken up with on camp too.

Speaker 1 Like actually a couple times I got bamboo.

Speaker 2 A couple times.

Speaker 1 I like to do things more than once, you know?

Speaker 2 I mean I got broken up with at a bar and every time I go to the bar I shake but it's like every time you go to Everest you're like oh that's where that happened.

Speaker 1 No we go back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We go back.

Speaker 2 I'm never staying in that tent again.

Speaker 1 We go back, we make new memories and then you take those forward.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Explain acclimation to me. I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 You go up, you hang out, then you come back down, then you go back further. What is that?

Speaker 1 It's like the silliest thing ever. You know, you have to climb almost to the summit three times just to get there once.
And so you go up, let your body adjust to the altitude, then go back down.

Speaker 2 Still easier than marriage.

Speaker 1 Honestly.

Speaker 2 Okay, sorry, keep going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and so you just allow your body to adjust. So it takes a really long time.
I was just saying I've spent a total of a year on Everest of my life, like an actual year.

Speaker 2 That's so cool. Yeah, I know.
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 Talk to me a little bit about the Juniper Fund and what it is and why it's important to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I co-founded a nonprofit that provides financial support, vocational training, small business grants to the families of high-altitude workers, primarily Sherpa in Nepal.

Speaker 2 These are essential,

Speaker 2 what's the word, workers, helpers,

Speaker 2 teammates during this.

Speaker 1 It's the infrastructure. You know, it's a human infrastructure of real people whose job it is to make climbing Everest possible.
And they don't have an amazing support system when things go wrong.

Speaker 1 And so our nonprofit provides as much support as we possibly can to the families when something happens.

Speaker 2 And things go wrong. Things go wrong.
I mean, you've experienced and seen the absolute worst.

Speaker 2 I mean, one of the more harrowing descriptions early in the book is when people are climbing up, there's bodies that get left there because maybe even the families of the climbers want them to stay there or you can't recover them.

Speaker 2 And then you've, I mean, yeah,

Speaker 2 it's really moving to read, but also you've seen some shit. I've seen some shit up there for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not theoretical.

Speaker 2 It's still easier than marriage. Honestly.

Speaker 1 It says probably something about people who climb at high altitude and pass frozen bodies and then act like that's normal later. Like, it's not normal.

Speaker 1 It's really, really weird and it's it's not normal.

Speaker 2 I kind of love that achievement competitive mindset. And I have to admit that when I was reading that, I was like, I wonder if a college tennis player

Speaker 2 could have what it takes. Do we have what it takes? Like, does this audience,

Speaker 2 some of them more than others, have what it takes to actually do that?

Speaker 1 It depends on how hard your childhood was, really.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, do we have to have a traumatic childhood?

Speaker 1 It's really helpful to have had a pretty hard upbringing because, you know, then you feel like you deserve to suffer and you're probably more willing to do it.

Speaker 2 Do you

Speaker 2 wish for a less dramatic, traumatic childhood?

Speaker 1 You know, very honestly, no.

Speaker 1 I think that everything that happens prepares you for what's coming next, and I wouldn't have survived some of the things that came next if I didn't start out the way that I did.

Speaker 2 What would you say to younger Melissa about romantic relationships with men?

Speaker 1 Oh, don't, girl, just don't.

Speaker 2 It's a treat for me to get to talk to such a world-class athlete and achiever.

Speaker 2 And I would be remiss if I didn't ask you for a life hack, something that you do that's helped you, that we could all steal from you. Does anything come to mind?

Speaker 2 It can be climbing, it can be anything related. I love getting in the mindset of someone that's done what you've done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think one of the things that's been the most helpful in my life and helped me survive in so many different scenarios is this really lack of rigidity towards things.

Speaker 1 So I try to continuously be flexible, willing to change, pretty focused, but not rigid.

Speaker 2 That's awesome. And that's very hard.
Now I have a follow-up.

Speaker 2 I always like the tree and the wind. The trees move with the wind.
They don't go like this. Nature does not favor the rigid.
Right. Medically, you're also trained medically.

Speaker 2 You talk about being called into emergencies. What should we know medically? What's one thing I should know medically all the time? You're gonna die.
Okay, oh shit.

Speaker 2 It is unavoidable. How is that a life tag?

Speaker 1 It's just important to, you know, again, acknowledge focus, but don't be so rigid.

Speaker 2 Right, I love that. Thank you so much for writing this book.
I loved it. Another is available now.
Melissa, Arnott, read. We're going to be a quick break.
We'll be right back after this.

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