Horny, Anti-Woke GOP Defends Sydney Sweeney Amid Denim Ad Backlash | Tony Hale
Trump's association with Jeffrey Epstein has been all over the news lately, but Jordan Klepper knows from years of talking to MAGA that if Trump does come out in the files, we can expect a very rational response.
Emmy Award-winning actor and producer Tony Hale talks to Desi Lydic about his new film, “Sketch,” sharing how the film’s story about a child’s drawings coming to life was inspired by writer-director Seth Worly’s sister, and how the movie can open up conversations for adults and kids alike about the importance of expressing emotions. He also reflects on the iconic “oddball” characters he played on “Veep” and “Arrested Development” and the joke that took him 15 years to get.
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We've got so much to talk about tonight. Jordan Clepper releases his Epstein files.
Megan Kelly loses her mind again. And finally, we answer the question, do these jeans make my ass look racist?
Speaker 3 So let's get into the headlines.
Speaker 3 For the past few weeks, the national conversation has been totally dominated by the Jeffrey Epstein story.
Speaker 3 But who would have thought that the thing that knocked it off the top of the charts would be Sidney Sweeney
Speaker 3 doing the most laid-back line delivery I've ever seen in my life?
Speaker 9 Jeans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 9 My jeans are blue.
Speaker 10 Sidney Sweeney has great genes.
Speaker 3 John's.
Speaker 3 John's are past on.
Speaker 3 My Johns are blue.
Speaker 3 I love my blue. John's.
Speaker 9 John's. John's blue.
Speaker 3
I love her so much. Okay, so there were a bunch of different reactions to this ad.
Some people thought, yeah, pretty standard ad where a hot person tells you to buy stuff.
Speaker 3 Other people were like, wow, Desi, I saw you in that jeans ad and you looked great.
Speaker 3 And then I had to be like, no, that was Sidney Sweeney. It's a common mistake.
Speaker 3 Anyway, but then there was another reaction online, which is that the ad wasn't just selling jeans. It was also subtly promoting white supremacy.
Speaker 3 And as you can imagine, that spawned an incredible right-wing backlash.
Speaker 10 What these left-wingers don't know is that they are revealing themselves to be the actual racists here, racist against white people.
Speaker 3
They're mad because she's young, hot, healthy, white, and blonde. Liberals just, they just hate hot people.
They just do.
Speaker 5 Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 3 It's a great point. It's a great point.
Speaker 3 I thought they just hated meat and freedom, but they also hate hot people. They do.
Speaker 3 By the way, are you guys kidding? Liberals love hot people. They love hot people so much they're apparently willing to give them one free murder.
Speaker 3
But it wasn't just right-wing media. It It was also people who you thought had more important things to do, like Pick-Me Senator Ted Cruz.
Texas Senator Ted Cruz.
Speaker 3 He wrote on X, wow, now the crazy left has come out against beautiful women. I'm sure that will pull well.
Speaker 7 Yeah,
Speaker 3 you tell him, Ted Cruz. Hey, if you want to talk shit about a woman and get away with it, you better be talking about my wife.
Speaker 3 And if you can believe it, it gets grosser than Ted Cruz.
Speaker 10 She's a hot,
Speaker 7 beautiful, biological woman, and everybody loves it.
Speaker 14 I thought it was a joke about her, you know, two most prominent assets. I'm sorry, as a red-blooded American male, it's not her blue eyes or her skin that I first see when I look at that picture.
Speaker 5 She is a lovely young woman.
Speaker 14 Too young for me, unfortunately.
Speaker 10 Why do you think people are so mad about that ad? It seems much less sensual than the one Brooke Shields did back in the 1980s.
Speaker 11 Sensual?
Speaker 11 Brooke Shields, that was sensual.
Speaker 3 These guys are so horny for a jeans ad that they started remembering older jeans ads they were horny for.
Speaker 3 They're withdrawing 40-year-old old treasury bonds from their spank bank.
Speaker 11 Now Betty Boop she was sensual.
Speaker 3 Can Stuart Varney please not say sensual anymore?
Speaker 10 You celebrate the sensuality that's in those two jeans ads? You like it? Oh stop saying sensual!
Speaker 3 Do you ever see that time-lapse video of a deer decomposing in like 10 seconds? Every time I hear him say sensual, that's what happens to my uterus.
Speaker 3 That guy says sensual can make anything less sensual, and I mean anything.
Speaker 9 Jeans are passed on from parents to offspring.
Speaker 15 Sensual.
Speaker 15 See?
Speaker 15 Not sensual. Not.
Speaker 3
Can anyone possibly make this story even more gross? Donald Trump Jr. posted this AI-generated image poking fun at City's commercial.
Donald is so hot right now.
Speaker 3 Yeah, who wants to f my dad?
Speaker 3 You know what? You know what? I am done hearing from men on this. Perhaps we can get some sound analysis from someone who isn't suffering from boner brain fog.
Speaker 3 Finally, we have an actual woman with amazing breasts and an obviously kick-ass body who is in a dress or inner jeans, whatever, and it's wonderful.
Speaker 7 Jesus.
Speaker 3 Megan Kelly's more horned up than they are.
Speaker 3 It's almost making me missual.
Speaker 3 Basically, Megan thinks the people who oppose this ad are just jealous haters who wish they were as hot as Sidney Sweeney. But come to think of it, I did see someone going after her recently.
Speaker 3 Who is that again? Sidney Sweeney. The new toast of the town out there because she's got these enormous breasts that everybody's obsessed with.
Speaker 3 Well, well, well, Megan, one minute you say you love boobs, the next you don't. What are you, my in hindsight, very gay high school boyfriend?
Speaker 3
And by the way, Sydney isn't the first woman Megan's gone after for being hot. I object to like J-Lo and Shakira showing their badge at the Super Bowl.
She dresses like a prostitute.
Speaker 3
She looks like a hooker. Look at this.
Her enormous breasts and a bathing suit was her chosen outfit. She hasn't come to grips with the fact that she's not a sex symbol anymore.
Speaker 3 You seem to be a desperate hoe wanting strangers to admire your vagina.
Speaker 7 Yeah,
Speaker 3
yeah, that's right, women. You listen to Megan Kelly and hide your sexuality.
Unless your body makes liberals mad, in which case it's a kick-ass body.
Speaker 7 Hell yeah, go, girl. You motorboat those liberals here.
Speaker 3 But not so much that it threatens Megan, or so help me, God, she will destroy you, hobags.
Speaker 3 But remember, this whole thing started because people were calling this ad a racist dog whistle. And whether that was intended or not, the reaction was definitely more of a dog megaphone.
Speaker 3 We're sick and f ⁇ ing tired of the nonsense where you are not allowed to ever celebrate someone who is white and blonde and blue-eyed. We are over this woke agenda.
Speaker 13 We're over the Lizzos. We're over the Dylan Mulvaney's.
Speaker 3 If this was a 300-pound non-binary person, they would be applauding her. I was so sick of seeing these just fat, unappealing losers who've destroyed their own bodies.
Speaker 13 She's not a plus-size swim model on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 3 She's not a male prom queen. This ad is the final declaration that we're done doing that shit.
Speaker 3 Guys.
Speaker 3 Guys, guys, guys, calm down. It's just an ad for Johns.
Speaker 3 Blow Johns.
Speaker 3
This is such bullshit. Blonde women have had constant representation, okay, in entertainment, in fashion, in letter turning.
It's not that.
Speaker 3
It's not that they want to see more white women. It's that they want to see none of anyone else.
For a story about boobs, it sure has a hell of a lot of assholes.
Speaker 3 But look, in all of this conversation, we're forgetting about the real victim here, American Eagle.
Speaker 3 They just wanted to trick grandmas doing Christmas shopping into thinking they were Abercrombie and Fitch.
Speaker 3 And now look what's happened. They've become associated with white supremacy, which is probably why they're now releasing this new ad to clarify their stance on racial equality.
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Speaker 3 welcome back to the daily show Donald Trump has had a roller coaster relationship with Jeffrey Epstein over the years but so have his supporters Jordan Klepper has more
Speaker 15 The Jeffrey Epstein story is everywhere these days, but it's not new to the MAGA crowd.
Speaker 18 In fact, I've heard some version of it since 2019. Although early on, some of the folks were hazy on the finer details, like his name.
Speaker 10 Mark Epstein.
Speaker 7 Yeah.
Speaker 10 Yeah, he's got quite a list of people that have showed up at his island from what I've read.
Speaker 7 You know, Bill Clinton,
Speaker 10 Bill Gates.
Speaker 10 So isn't there something there and doesn't that speak of the debauchery that's at these levels who Jeffrey Epstein parties with yeah I mean there's got to be something Epstein famously spent a lot of time with Trump is that an issue
Speaker 7 I didn't know that he spent a lot of time with Trump
Speaker 18 sometimes the Epstein talk was lumped in with fun conspiracies somebody put me on to QAnon.
Speaker 3 I believe some of it with Epstein and everything, Clinton and all the...
Speaker 18 You would never vote for anybody who associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 I did vote for Clinton back. I used to be a Democrat, but I think.
Speaker 18 And then you voted for Trump.
Speaker 18 So you love Epstein's, actually. That might be the one thing.
Speaker 3 Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3
I don't really know. Like, I could go down that rabbit hole all day, but I believe in something.
So JFK Jr. is still alive.
What? And he's disguised in the background.
Speaker 3
So this guy is always behind Trump at the rallies. I'm going to look out for him today, by the way.
And he looks disguised, and then two down is supposed to be Carolyn Bassett.
Speaker 3 So I kind of hope I see that today.
Speaker 12 So you're saying JFK Jr.
Speaker 18 is still alive and spending his time in the background at Trump rally. Yes.
Speaker 12 And how could I forget this man?
Speaker 7 I'm Red Phil Kent.
Speaker 18 But he was more concerned with a different Trump associate.
Speaker 7
It's total evil. All you got to do is look at Sean Puffy Combs, man.
He's right in your face. Oh, he's the black Epstein.
He's the black Epstein. Well, what is this all about?
Speaker 16 Is there a connection with this?
Speaker 18 Hold on, Puffy and Biden? Is there a Biden?
Speaker 7 Yes, because they're all a part of the Nazi world order. That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 12 But Biden and
Speaker 7 all of
Speaker 18 While Trump was being indicted in a Manhattan court, his supporters were gathered outside
Speaker 18 deflecting.
Speaker 19 Biden is a penophile. You all know that.
Speaker 7 Sure.
Speaker 19 Well, he's in the White House. He likes to sniff kids.
Speaker 18 I'm sorry, but you said Biden likes to sniff kids?
Speaker 19 Yeah, you've seen all the videos of him sniffing kids all the time. He's been on Epstein Island 26 times.
Speaker 18 So you don't support anybody who associates with somebody like Epstein? No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 No, never.
Speaker 18 You're here defending Donald Trump? Sure. What do you think about Trump associating with Epstein?
Speaker 19 He was on his flight once coming to New York.
Speaker 18 You're never going to see a video of Trump next to Epstein.
Speaker 19 There is a video, yeah.
Speaker 12 There is a video.
Speaker 18 You're right. You're right.
Speaker 3 You're right. Barley Largo.
Speaker 18 So there is a video and evidence of Trump with Epstein.
Speaker 7 Yes, there is.
Speaker 18 As you talk through it, it almost seems like a double standard.
Speaker 19 Why is it the double standard? New people, for the most part, the fake press.
Speaker 19 I like to call you as the fake f
Speaker 19
don't give a shit. You can't embarrass me.
You think you're journalists? You're not.
Speaker 7 I'm not.
Speaker 18 With that big parade, everything that's coming down the street, what are you most excited to see?
Speaker 7 Tanks. Tanks.
Speaker 7 The helicopters.
Speaker 18 You throw something like this and you can't think of what else is going on.
Speaker 7
Yeah, that's right. That's it.
Yeah.
Speaker 12 A couple days ago, we were talking about Epstein's list.
Speaker 7 I know, right?
Speaker 18 Nobody's thinking about that now.
Speaker 7 No, it's not even the United States Army. 250th anniversary.
Speaker 18 On the Gulf of America, the Tampa Bay young Republicans attacked the Democrats and Epstein with very carefully thought-out criticism.
Speaker 16 Don't really know too much about it, but I mean, I know the Democratic Party is, you know, big into
Speaker 16 doing stuff underneath the surface level. What do you mean? Like what? Like human trafficking?
Speaker 18 Oh my god. The Dems are into human trafficking.
Speaker 16 Of course. I mean, how do you think they make most of their money anyways?
Speaker 18 You won't let that stand.
Speaker 7 No.
Speaker 5 Just wait till the Epstein files come out. Right.
Speaker 18 It's going to happen any minute. So you guys still are anti-human trafficking?
Speaker 7 100%. 100%.
Speaker 18 You guys did invite Andrew Tate to come talk to your group.
Speaker 7 Yeah.
Speaker 7 Yep.
Speaker 18 Andrew Tate, kind of big in the alleged human trafficking thing.
Speaker 5 You got to make sure this is not going to be happening here.
Speaker 18 You are not welcome here, human traffickers.
Speaker 7 That's right.
Speaker 18 Except you are invited to our group to talk. So how will this group react if the Epstein files are released and Trump is in there? I'm sure we can expect a very rational response.
Speaker 3
So J.F. Key Jr.
is still alive?
Speaker 7 Or maybe not.
Speaker 7 Thank you, Jordan. When we come back, Tony Hale will be joining me on the show.
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Speaker 3 My guest tonight is an Emmy Award-winning actor and producer who stars in the new film Sketch. Please welcome Tony Hale.
Speaker 7 It's such an honor being here.
Speaker 3 Oh my god, the entire building is so excited to have you here. Tony Hale, comedic genius.
Speaker 7 Oh, comes from...
Speaker 10 So nice. It comes from so much pain.
Speaker 3
Yes, I assume so. It always does.
Yeah, yeah. It always does.
You have played some of the most iconic roles in TV. Gary in Veep,
Speaker 3 Buster Bluth in Arrested Development.
Speaker 3 Do you ever go back and watch old episodes of Veeep just to just to remember what things could be like if we had competent adults in charge?
Speaker 7 Interesting. Do you know what?
Speaker 10 I actually love when people come up and say they like the show and remind me of bits because I don't.
Speaker 10 Somebody once said,
Speaker 10 they said, oh, I loved that bit when, because
Speaker 10 my hand was eaten off by a seal in the show.
Speaker 7 Sure, sure.
Speaker 10 And I was in the hospital and I said, oh, I said, I said, I love that bit when the doctor says
Speaker 10 he's going to be okay. And somebody had to remind me that it said, no, he said he's going to be all right, meaning he just has a right arm.
Speaker 16 Yeah, and this was a joke I got 15 years after I shot the show.
Speaker 10 You know, it was so many, so layers.
Speaker 3
But that's what makes both of those shows actually so incredible is they're jokes on jokes on jokes. And you do kind of have to re-watch multiple times to catch everything.
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 I want to talk about your creative process. I'm just so curious because these characters that you've played, so many of them are real oddballs, very
Speaker 3 specific, quirky characters. And any other hands.
Speaker 7 And you'd be like, oh, that's where it's from.
Speaker 3 Yes, let's push in. He's getting emotional.
Speaker 3 But almost in any other hands, they would be played in this kind of like broad, over-the-top way. But what I love about your acting so much is you're so grounded and you're so truthful.
Speaker 3 And you really root for these characters. So what is your process like? Do you improvise? Do you get into a physicality?
Speaker 10 Yeah, I remember, it's very nice to say,
Speaker 16 my therapist be like, oh, I've got some stories.
Speaker 10 But I remember on Arrested, I remember asking Mitch Hurwitz a very actuary question, and I said, what does Buster want? And he goes, all he wants is safety.
Speaker 10 And so I thought about Buster, and that's why he would always go in the back. He would always be in this kind of defensive place.
Speaker 10 And because he was always like, what's coming at me?
Speaker 7 And he was just always kind of like just looking around, like, what's happening?
Speaker 10 So, he was always kind of checking out and always worried someone's gonna come at him.
Speaker 3 Oh, that's so fascinating.
Speaker 10 He was so codependent. Yes.
Speaker 10 There was a scene,
Speaker 10 there's a scene where my mom, Lucia Walter,
Speaker 10 sorry, no, Jessica Walter, her name was Lucia. Yeah, one in the same.
Speaker 10 But she was on house arrest and she couldn't smoke. And Buster was, she asked Buster to inhale the smoke out of her mouth and then exhale it on the balcony.
Speaker 10 And then he would like breathe and then I would have to, then I would come back and I would inhale the smoke again, like a baby bird getting a worm out of a mother.
Speaker 10 And it was such a picture of codependency. You know, it was just like so twisted, but so fun.
Speaker 3 Oh, that Mitch Hurwitz.
Speaker 7 And I had asthma too, by the way.
Speaker 12 Full ones.
Speaker 7 Oh my God.
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Never quite recovered from that.
Oh, no, no. Hence the therapy.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 Yeah.
Speaker 3 I want to talk about this new movie that you have now sketched.
Speaker 3
I heard it described as Jurassic Park meets Inside Out. Yes, yes, yes.
It's such a fascinating movie. It's so great.
How do you describe it?
Speaker 10 So, well, this movie's taken us eight years to get made.
Speaker 10 And my friend Seth Worley, the writer and director, who is so talented, he had this idea. It actually came from
Speaker 10 a situation that his sister was in growing up, where his sister was drawing these really dark pictures, and his parents took her to a therapist because they were worried.
Speaker 10 And it was a bullying situation. And the therapist asked her, do you want these things to happen to this bully? And she was honest, and she said, kind of.
Speaker 10 And the therapist said, well, I think it's a good idea that you drew them rather than left it blank.
Speaker 10 That you were creative and put it on paper rather than keeping it up here where it festers and
Speaker 10
gets dark. And so that's where this story came from.
I play a worried dad who's seeing these pictures. And then something happens where the pictures come to life.
Speaker 10
And it talks about, and in the movie, my wife has passed away. So it's all these kind of things of kids.
She's actually processing her feelings, and I'm kind of compartmentalizing them.
Speaker 10 Actually, there's a new term.
Speaker 10 You know, I've heard of helicopter parenting where you kind of...
Speaker 7 No, never heard of it. Did you get more water?
Speaker 7 Gosh,
Speaker 7 surreal.
Speaker 10
This is really happening. But there's a new term called snowplow parenting, where you want to remove the challenges completely from your kids.
Which I totally relate to.
Speaker 10 I have a 19-year-old and seeing my kid have to go through stuff and her feeling feelings, you're like, ah, but she has to walk through that stuff to grow.
Speaker 3 and my character in the movie wanted to compartmentalize and so he learned like we got to process these feelings we got to walk through it it's such a beautiful message at the heart of it and I loved I have a nine-year-old son at home and I loved watching this movie with him yeah and it was such it
Speaker 3 I think it was helpful for him to hear but really more for me to hear.
Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 How do I talk to my child about processing feelings like that?
Speaker 3 And you spend the whole movie being concerned about your daughter when you also have a son who's kind of doing the same thing that your character's doing holding all of his hands.
Speaker 10 Yeah, and trying to fix things, yeah.
Speaker 3 Yeah, and Darcy Cardin is also in the movie.
Speaker 10 Darcy Cardin from The Good Place.
Speaker 7 I mean, she's...
Speaker 10
She's so fun and kind. And I mean, you know, like when you're working with other comic, you're so talented.
And it's like when you're working with other comic actors, you feel that you're so amazing.
Speaker 7 Your timing is tight. Let's go.
Speaker 10
But it's like you have that trust that you can kind of have that comic dance together. And Darcy was perfect.
So she plays my sister in the movie.
Speaker 3 And she's so great in it.
Speaker 3 She has my favorite quote in the movie.
Speaker 3 She says to you at some point when you're fretting over your daughter, she says, I think you should stop worrying about the girls who are busy drawing about their pain and worry more about the boys who are ignoring theirs.
Speaker 15 Yeah.
Speaker 3 And I thought, that is why.
Speaker 10
It's also, I mean, if you think about it, you talk about it on the show all the time. There's a lot of finger pointing.
Wow, look what they're doing. Look what they're doing.
Speaker 10 It's like, yeah, yeah let's start pointing the finger back at ourselves yeah also this is a really fun family adventure movie it's very funny silly movie
Speaker 3 it is very funny it is a feel-good movie it is funny but important messaging
Speaker 3 and really timely if you ask me
Speaker 10 yeah yeah um how did it feel to this is your baby you've been producing it for like you said eight years it's it's it's great and it's also that feeling of like uh take care of my kid you know it's because we we champion it Championing and championing.
Speaker 7 Okay, we'll go with that.
Speaker 16 For about
Speaker 10 fixed and post, thank you.
Speaker 10 But for so long and seeing it, even like getting cast together and finally finding financing and the post of it, you just saw the special effects are so specific.
Speaker 10
But getting it out there, it's a pretty vulnerable feeling. But I'm so stoked, guys.
It's so good. I'm so stoked for people to see it.
Speaker 3 Because this movie is about channeling your feelings through art, through drawing, and those drawings coming to life, with things being as polarized as they are right now culturally, politically, if you could draw anything that would come to life, what would you choose to draw?
Speaker 10 Okay, you know what's super sad is I was just asked this question, and I'm not kidding, the first thing that came to my mind was a McFlurry from McDonald's.
Speaker 10 Yeah,
Speaker 10 and they said, they said, Tony, you could get one of those. And I thought yeah, do I want a relationship with it? Like I didn't know what I was trying to do, but that was the first thing.
Speaker 10 I like a McFurry and I'd like to see a McFlurry come to life. In addition to a big hug that hugs the world.
Speaker 7
Yes. That's what that is.
A big hug that hugs the world.
Speaker 16 Just a big hug that hugs the world.
Speaker 3 I was going to say myself on a unicorn, but I think a big hug that hugs the world, that's a much better answer.
Speaker 7 Well, here's...
Speaker 10 Kind of daunting. Here's to...
Speaker 3
I'll take it. I'd say we could use it right now.
Congratulations on the movie. Here is to a big hug that hugs the world.
Speaker 7 Thank you.
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