Republicans Desperately Spin Yemen Group Chat Fumble | Mayor Michelle Wu

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Ronny Chieng tackles Republicans' desperate attempts to defend Trump administration officials accidentally adding a journalist to their Signal group chat for planning missile strikes on Yemen.

Ronny Chieng and Jordan Klepper face off in a March Madness edition of Sports War, where the two debate the McNeese student manager's rise to fame, fans' upset over a lack of upsets, and the NCAA tournament's link to vasectomy season. Plus, a special Sports War halftime report from Grace Kuhlenschmidt.

Boston Mayor Michelle Wu sits down with Ronny Chieng to discuss blazing a trail as Boston's first female and first Asian-American elected mayor. They talk about winning over Boston’s passionate and diverse constituency by focusing on solving their everyday challenges, valuing immigrants for a safer environment, investing in affordable housing, and why Boston remains the safest big city in America.

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Speaker 2 We got so much to talk about tonight, so let's get right into today's top story.

Speaker 2 I know you goddamn hippies like to blame Donald Trump for fing everything up in the country, but hey, not everything that happens is his fault. He has a whole administration that can f up for him.

Speaker 2 So let's find out the latest in our new segment, The Worst Wing.

Speaker 7 What a bunch of losers.

Speaker 2 By now, we all know the story about how Trump's team included a reporter in their war planning group chat. And we don't need to hear it again.

Speaker 3 But it is super funny, so let's hear about it again.

Speaker 8 This morning, far out from that stunning lapse in national security, Secretary of Defense Pete Hagseth, along with other top members of President Trump's national security team, sharing details about a planned large-scale attack on Yemen earlier this month on the commercial message app Signal, and inadvertently including journalist Jeffrey Goldberg on that chain.

Speaker 8 Hagseth shared operational details of forthcoming strikes, weapons, deploying, and attack sequencing.

Speaker 1 Goldberg also reported that when it comes to security, Hexeth wrote at one point, we are currently clean on OPSEC. That's the acronym used for operational security.

Speaker 5 Oh, ha ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 You think that's funny, don't you? That the stupid Secretary of Defense is so stupid and all drunk that he texted we're clean on OPSEC when there's a reporter right in the group chat. Yeah?

Speaker 2 Well laugh it up people because unlike you, I have human empathy for these people who are just trying their best to kill other humans.

Speaker 3 Alright?

Speaker 2 And I guarantee that if anyone in this audience had their group chats leaked, it would ruin every single one of your lives.

Speaker 2 I personally have chats that are actually more sensitive than a missile attack on the Houthis, okay?

Speaker 2 If you told me that my group chats leaked and then told me it was just my missile attack one, I'd be like, oh my god, thank God. Thank God.

Speaker 2 And by the way, it wasn't even Pete Hegseth who added him. It was some other incompetent guy at the highest levels of government, okay?

Speaker 2 Like, what, you think Hegseth has the editor of the Atlantic magazine saved in his phone? No way, alright?

Speaker 2 If Hegseth auto-filled a contact into a group chat, it would be like Tampa Bay blonde with Bugs Bunny tattoo.

Speaker 2 But still, you gotta ask, how did this happen? I mean, don't you guys have tech support in the government? I mean, what?

Speaker 6 Oh.

Speaker 6 Oh.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, uh.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, if you ask me, adding a reporter wasn't even the most embarrassing thing to happen on this group chat.

Speaker 8 According to Goldberg, the administration officials reacting after the strikes, excellent, a good start. Waltz even sending several emojis.

Speaker 2 Is anyone anyone else kind of upset that we're conducting war by emoji now?

Speaker 2 I mean, what does this even mean? What, I'm gonna fist the flag and then light it on fire?

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 2 there's a reason why you don't use emojis for life and death situations. It's too open to interpretation.
Okay? Like, imagine if your doctor texted you a crab emoji, right?

Speaker 2 And now you're going, oh my god, I have crabs?

Speaker 2 And your doctor has to be like, LOL, no, it's the astrology sign for cancer.

Speaker 2 You have cancer.

Speaker 2 But now everyone is yelling at them about this breach of national security or whatever. And the Department of Defense is having trouble defending themselves.

Speaker 2 Luckily, all of MAGA is there to help them. Counter-argument one.

Speaker 2 Nobody's perfect.

Speaker 11 Well, it's a mistake. You know, we make mistakes.
We all make mistakes. But somebody made a mistake, and that happens.

Speaker 12 Yeah, look, it's a mistake, and we got to move on.

Speaker 1 Well, it was a mistake. Like I said before, it was a mistake.
Everyone makes mistakes.

Speaker 13 Is that sufficient accountability to you to recognize that someone made a mistake and moving on? Because I don't see that same standard being held.

Speaker 1 Boris, I gave you the sound bite already. I gave you the sound bite already.

Speaker 2 Boris, I gave you the sound bites.

Speaker 10 Stop asking follow-up questions.

Speaker 2 If I wanted to talk to a journalist, I'd be on a private group chat with Pete Hegseth.

Speaker 2 Okay, cut it out.

Speaker 2 Like, come on, what? We're just calling this a mistake now? Like, look, my door dasher forgetting straws is a mistake that can be rectified with one star and no tip, okay?

Speaker 2 But this feels like a major f ⁇ up, and they're acting like nobody will care about this. And honestly, they're probably right.

Speaker 2 I mean, nothing seems to matter anymore anyway, and everyone will forget this in a few days when Trump sends the new Snow White to Gitmo.

Speaker 2 And even if they didn't accidentally add a journalist into this group chat, They weren't supposed to be talking about this stuff on Signal in the first place, okay?

Speaker 2 Signal might be a good app for you and me and our local drug dealer, but it's not for the Pentagon to plan wars on.

Speaker 1 One former White House official told Politico their personal phones are all hackable, and it's highly likely that foreign intelligence services are sitting on their phones watching them type the shit out.

Speaker 2 That's right, foreign adversaries could be watching whatever Pete Hagseth types into his phone, like bar near me, or

Speaker 2 How to fool breathalyzer, or how to uncrash car.

Speaker 2 But if you're not satisfied with it was just a mistake, they have another defense.

Speaker 2 It was just a mistake that was awesome.

Speaker 15 The bigger takeaway for me is it's an insight, a transparent insight into the thought process and dialogue of our national leaders.

Speaker 15 If you read the content of these messages, I think you'll come away proud that these are the leaders making these decisions in America.

Speaker 11 What you did see though, I think, was top-level officials doing their job, doing it well, and executing

Speaker 11 on a plan with precision.

Speaker 2 Wait,

Speaker 2 precision. I mean, even your techs weren't hitting the intended targets.

Speaker 2 Like, forget the Houthis. I'm surprised they didn't accidentally blow up Hootie and the Blowfish.

Speaker 2 This is like if your sex tape leaked and you're like, hey, I'm glad you saw all of it. Okay, this proves my dick works.

Speaker 2 By the way, Mike Johnson, if you're watching, a sex tape is when two people love each other very much, but they also want to masturbate later.

Speaker 2 Just to summarize, the Trump administration admitted this happened, but it was a small mistake. And it was a good thing that it happened.
But also, what if the reporter made the whole thing up?

Speaker 9 Not a good reporter.

Speaker 14 Jeffrey Goldberg from The Atlantic, one of the biggest folks artists around.

Speaker 7 Happen to know the guy's in total sleazebag. The Atlantic.

Speaker 7 The Atlantic is a failed magazine. It does very, very poorly.

Speaker 16 You're talking about a

Speaker 16 deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again. This is the guy that peddles in garbage.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 2 So this reporter who is dishonest and sucks is is also correct. And also we added him to our group chat because he's a fun hang.

Speaker 2 I mean, you can't use it was a mistake and it was fake news. You gotta pick one.
Okay, you gotta get together and figure it out, okay? But not in a group chat. No more group chats.

Speaker 2 But, you know.

Speaker 2 But you know...

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 6 All's well that ends well.

Speaker 2 The good news is that no one got hurt except for the people of Yemen. And I guess it'll be okay as long as everyone involved learned their lesson.

Speaker 9 Peter, excellent question, and I don't know if you know the answer. Are they ever going to use Signal again for something like this?

Speaker 2 It seems like, yes, they will.

Speaker 5 Okay, good enough.

Speaker 2 Okay, good enough. Yep, good, good, good, good.
We solved it. Good.

Speaker 2 Of course, everyone is wondering what this scandal means for America's national security under Donald Trump. But there's another important question.
What does it mean for journalism?

Speaker 2 And the answer is something that's going to make a great movie.

Speaker 1 Last time the president broke into Watergate, this time he's going to steal the whole damn hotel.

Speaker 5 Oh my god, I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 It's not about what you believe, it's about the truth.

Speaker 18 Okay, little intense.

Speaker 1 Reporting this story will take all the skills you have.

Speaker 18 Alright, I'm gonna hit the streets, work the phones, meet sources at underground parking garages.

Speaker 18 Oh, wait, the president just added me to a group chat. I have the whole thing right here.

Speaker 19 What?

Speaker 1 No, that's too easy. I got you this whole disguise.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I don't need it. It's all here.
Break-in plans, cover-up payments. Whoa.

Speaker 5 What?

Speaker 18 It's a lot of dick pics.

Speaker 1 But we have a source and a trench coat.

Speaker 5 Follow the money.

Speaker 18 Yeah, we don't need to. They posted the checks.

Speaker 5 Wow.

Speaker 6 A lot of dick pics.

Speaker 1 This doesn't make sense. Why would they just add you to?

Speaker 1 Oh, they added me too. After we steal the hotel, let's bomb emoji, Iran, flag emoji, then we all rain spurt emoji bitches.

Speaker 18 Do we even have to write the story?

Speaker 1 I think we can just put out the screenshots.

Speaker 18 That doesn't really sound like work.

Speaker 1 Maybe if you put on the disguise?

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is better.

Speaker 6 Drinks?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of dips.

Speaker 1 Get all the Oscars now.

Speaker 2 When we come back, Jordan and I get mad about March Madness. Don't go away.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the Daily Show.

Speaker 2 I think I speak for everyone when I say politics, drools, and sports rules for a full recap of the biggest stories in the world of jocks and straps we turn to sports war get ready for battle it's time for sports war brought to you by gambling gambling the addiction of champions

Speaker 2 What's up, Nam Nuts I'm Rainch?

Speaker 9 And I'm Jordan Clepper. This is Sports War, the show where we are legally not allowed to agree with each other.
For example, if I say that athletes should be allowed to take steroids to get bigger.

Speaker 2 Then I say that athletes should be getting smaller. Like Ant-Man, I want teeny tiny little athletes.

Speaker 9 That's nuts, Ronnie. Come on, how would they even pick up a basketball?

Speaker 2 Well, ants can lift 50 times their body weight. Try culturing yourself and watching a Marvel movie, you moron.

Speaker 9 I watched your Marvel movie.

Speaker 5 What was it called?

Speaker 9 Right. Nobody remembers.

Speaker 2 Oh, really? Well, how many Marvel movies were you in?

Speaker 9 I'm more of a theater guy. Thank you very much, Ibsen or or something like that.

Speaker 9 Anyway, let's start things off with March Madness, the time of year when people yell Gonzaga, and not just during orgasm.

Speaker 9 But this year, the Ides of March didn't bring much of the madness.

Speaker 1 It's actually been an oddly tame start to March Madness.

Speaker 2 We didn't get those typical upsets that we're used to. The top four seeds in each region, a combined 16-0 in the first round for the first time since 2017.

Speaker 1 Of the first 32 games in the first round, 20 were won by double digits.

Speaker 2 Wow, just like Jordan over here, this year's tournament sucks.

Speaker 2 Okay, we get it.

Speaker 2 We get it.

Speaker 2 We get it, Darling.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 2 Okay, Darling.

Speaker 2 Where's the drama? Where's the crazy upsets? The only reason I watch these games is to see Duke fans crying to their ascards. Where are my Cinderella stories at?

Speaker 2 Usually, there's at least one fairy tale underdog with a starting lineup of guys that all have heart conditions and whose team is just integrated for the first time.

Speaker 9 Ronnie, I can't tell which is more busted, your bracket or your face. Look, this has been an incredible tournament.

Speaker 9 I only want to watch major colleges, not some team like Mount Sinai Bumfri getting shellacked by a top dog of the Sweet 16.

Speaker 9 Honestly, this is the most excited I've been for a Sweet 16 since Ronnie's Quinciniera.

Speaker 2 Okay, Quinceinera is at 15 Pendejo. Also, ni Quincendira muy excelante.
Wow!

Speaker 9 That layover in Madrid did some wonders, Ronnie. Which brings us to our Super Sweet 16, Bet of the Night.
Which college mascot will be the first to do over-the-pants stuff at the Sweet 16?

Speaker 9 As always, brought to you by Gambling. It's the fun way to sell your house.

Speaker 2 Moving on, despite the lack of March Madness upsets, there was one Cinderella story that the entire world could get behind.

Speaker 2 One of the biggest stars of March Madness in the men's side isn't even a player.

Speaker 20 12-seed McNeese states Cinderella run is over, but people fell in love with their student manager, Amir Khan, aka Aura.

Speaker 2 He's like their hype, man.

Speaker 19 Popularity reportedly landing Amir at least 10 NIL deals with major brands earning into the six figures.

Speaker 17 Khan going viral this season for leading his team out to play carrying a boombox.

Speaker 9 Now I know it's the best school in the state of...

Speaker 9 I want to say McNeese.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Jordan, did your brain tear its ACL? Okay, we shouldn't be giving an equipment manager endorsement deals.
It's against the natural order of things.

Speaker 2 The jocks get the endorsement deals and the glory and the girls and the nerds get to get beat up by the jocks, then start social media companies that warp the brains of the jocks to eventually vote against their own interests.

Speaker 2 Which brings us to my bracket buster, better than night.

Speaker 2 Which random nerd will get an endorsement deal next? Brought to you by gambling. Gambling, as Thomas Jefferson once said, it ain't gay if it's a parley.

Speaker 2 Now it's time for our Sports War halftime report with Grace Kulensmith.

Speaker 2 Thanks, Ronnie.

Speaker 21 So far, it's been a pretty underwhelming performance by both hosts.

Speaker 21 There is one major upset to report. I'm very upset I had to witness this.

Speaker 21 But now I'd like to give everyone an update on the NCAA women's basketball tournament.

Speaker 3 Thanks, Grace.

Speaker 5 Wow.

Speaker 5 That's close. Whoa.

Speaker 5 About to blow my fing brains out for that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I want to go right to the line. Good.

Speaker 5 Anyway. Woo!

Speaker 5 Moving on.

Speaker 20 From the balls on the court to balls off the court.

Speaker 12 Away from the basketball arenas, a different kind of march madness is underway.

Speaker 1 Every year around this time, doctors see a surge in men scheduling vasectomies.

Speaker 1 Men figure if they're gonna be laid up on the couch for a couple of days, it might as well be at a time when there's something to watch on TV, like 48 basketball games in four days.

Speaker 1 Urologists are catching on, even offering deals with slogans like, it's hip to get snipped. Others offer basketball-shaped ice packs.

Speaker 2 Bravo, bravo. I love dudes.
This is exactly what vasectomies are all about. Watching sports alone with a bag of frozen peas on your junk.

Speaker 2 I mean, me, I'm on my 11th vasectomy this year.

Speaker 9 Is that why you missed my wedding?

Speaker 2 No, I missed it because I don't like seeing you happy.

Speaker 5 Okay, right.

Speaker 9 Look, much like your penis, your argument is completely mangled. Look, these vasectomies are a disaster.
If people are having vasectomies, they aren't having kids.

Speaker 9 If people aren't having kids, then those kids aren't playing sports. And if they're not playing sports, then I can't bet on their little league games.

Speaker 9 Now I look like a psycho betting on little league games when there's no children on the field. I'm not a psycho, Ronnie.
I just need little Artlo to bat over 500 so daddy can get back to even

Speaker 9 Which brings me to my ball buster bet of the night will the Bakersfield Junior Astros score more than 22 runs in the Pee Wee quarterfinals brought to you by gambling.

Speaker 9 It's like a vasectomy for your wallet

Speaker 2 before we go let's throw it back to Grace for our post-game report

Speaker 21 Thanks Ronnie looking at the numbers we had three swear words, 17 dick jokes, and two men wasting what little life they have left.

Speaker 21 And now, a quick update on the women's brackets.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Et. That's all the time we have.

Speaker 9 Join us next week when we debate whether Vanessa Trump would look better with Tiger Woods or Tony the Tiger.

Speaker 2 Okay, it's hard to say, Jordan. Tony the Tiger is a massive dog.

Speaker 5 All right, I've seen it.

Speaker 5 Welcome back to a daily show.

Speaker 2 My guest tonight is the first woman, first Asian, first Michelle to be elected mayor of Bastards.

Speaker 9 Please welcome Mayor Michelle Wo.

Speaker 9 Standing ovation

Speaker 9 standing ovation

Speaker 5 in New York for the mayor of Boston.

Speaker 2 That's very hard to get. That's the first time.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 I love you.

Speaker 2 I don't usually make demographic such a big deal, but like,

Speaker 6 how did you become mayor?

Speaker 10 You know, many days I asked.

Speaker 2 Of Boston, of Boston.

Speaker 1 I asked myself that question too.

Speaker 3 But what's the answer?

Speaker 1 So I grew up in an immigrant family, and it was never, ever in the list of things that you were supposed to think about or do.

Speaker 1 I just did what my parents wanted, worked hard, played piano, played badminton, did all the things.

Speaker 5 Yeah, went to Harvard, went to Harvard Law School.

Speaker 1 And so I found my way to Boston for school, and in the midst of all that, my mom began to really struggle with mental health challenges.

Speaker 1 So I found myself in my early 20s raising my two younger sisters, taking care of my mom, and Boston has really given me everything that I cherish in my life.

Speaker 1 healthcare that saved my mom's life, the schools that helped me and my family get to where we are. And now I get to raise my family with my husband Connor.

Speaker 1 We have two boys in the schools, a two-month-old little girl, and it's the best city in the world.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay, that's great.

Speaker 19 First of all.

Speaker 2 First of all, New York forever. And

Speaker 2 second of all, so how did you become the mayor of Boston?

Speaker 5 You said that Answer.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you've been to Boston, but this is not the demographic for mayor of Boston. Like you came to my show when I was there.

Speaker 2 I was doing stand-up there. You were very nice.
You came to store shows at Wilbur, not to brag, and you came, and my DJ was there.

Speaker 2 My DJ is like a Chicago Korean-American guy, and I was like, oh, that's the mayor of Boston. And he was like, what?

Speaker 1 You might be surprised by Boston. Next time you come, we'll have to take you around a little more.

Speaker 2 But how did you come? Where is these guys?

Speaker 1 We're an incredibly diverse, welcoming, beautiful city. Okay, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 We are majority people of color. We're 28% people born from another country.
And Boston is a place where people have always come for almost 400 years to make good in in the world.

Speaker 5 But also.

Speaker 1 Don't make me go against New York here. Better sports teams.

Speaker 5 No, no, no. Better qualify.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 They gave you a standing oppation. Why did you?

Speaker 3 No, no, this isn't about New York versus

Speaker 3 New York.

Speaker 2 This is not about New York versus Boston because New York is clearly better.

Speaker 5 I'm saying, I'm saying, no, no, no, it's not about that.

Speaker 2 It's not about who's a better city, which we clearly are. It's more that how did you get those guys to vote for you? Because this is not the demographic that.

Speaker 2 How did you convince them to put you in charge?

Speaker 1 I've been through a lot with my family.

Speaker 1 And in those hardest moments, it often felt like government was the place we had to fight against instead of something to help us through, you know, in the middle of the emergency room or trying to navigate the school system.

Speaker 1 And there are so many families out there who are working their hardest, trying to do their best.

Speaker 1 And in many ways, we just have to make sure that the supports that are needed are not only there, funded, but also connected to every every community. That's what I've been fighting for.

Speaker 1 I got to serve on the city council for eight years, and that's how good the mayor.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 2 But right now,

Speaker 2 it feels like everyone, you know, politicians, everyone hates politicians now more than ever. Like, why did you get it? Like, what made you want to put yourself out there to get into this?

Speaker 2 You know, it's a very thankless job.

Speaker 1 It's not a new thing, I would say.

Speaker 1 I remember all the time growing up, my parents would say to me and my siblings, we hate the mayor in Mandarin,

Speaker 1 when you become, when you grow up, get a job that pays well, is very stable, and won't get you in trouble. So I've now been dragged before Congress, threatened with criminal prosecution,

Speaker 1 working really hard, but at the end of the day, this is where it matters.

Speaker 1 All of the programs that we put in place to keep the streets clean, to make our schools actually supportive for our students, to protect people in our communities in a really scary moment, That is what city government is for.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 again, like you, you, I think you won your last election at 64% of the vote.

Speaker 6 Is that right? Is that wrong?

Speaker 2 So you're incredibly popular in Boston and they trust you to run the city. How did you convince these Boston people?

Speaker 10 How hard do I have to say it?

Speaker 1 I ran to make sure that families would have a place in the city.

Speaker 2 And they just believed you?

Speaker 5 Just believed you?

Speaker 1 And you back it up with work. Every day that I served on the city council, I was out in neighborhood meetings.

Speaker 1 I was writing policies that we now have in place to protect our communities and give people opportunity. And it's about making sure that everyone feels part of the decisions that are being made.

Speaker 2 Okay, you see, this optimism, I'm not, I can't.

Speaker 2 So you became mayor of Boston at like 36, which is pretty insane. Like, that's, it's like, you know how the...

Speaker 1 You're saying I did just turn 40? Yes.

Speaker 5 Well I know because you're born in the same year.

Speaker 2 So I'm like damn this this woman became a mayor already. I'm still here telling dick jokes.

Speaker 2 But like this

Speaker 2 something about Boston. You're like the youngest successful Boston person running Boston since like Theo Epstein.

Speaker 2 The best of the Epsteins.

Speaker 2 He was like the youngest GM of, I don't know why they trusted you. I mean, obviously you're very good at your job.
What's the toughest thing you face in Boston?

Speaker 1 Boston is a very passionate city. We cheer hard for our sports teams and people look at politics and government and being involved in the community the same way.

Speaker 1 And it's pretty hard to make the greatest city on earth even better, but we are working every day to make sure that housing costs can be brought down.

Speaker 2 If you're not mayor, you're running the day-to-day of the city, right?

Speaker 2 What's the hardest thing day-to-day, like mayoring in Boston?

Speaker 1 I think it's that

Speaker 1 people have a lot to say, and everyone's voice has a place in our community.

Speaker 1 And when you have so many decisions that come after a long history, also of being a place where for 400 years people have stood up for the right thing, fought hard to make a difference, finding that consensus is complicated.

Speaker 1 It's beautiful. It's a hard job.
You can't fake it in Boston. People will call you out.
So you have to show up everywhere and keep working. And it's a hard job, but it's the best job.
And I love it.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So, like, you.

Speaker 2 I just, all right. So, right now,

Speaker 2 you know, you raise a Democrat as well. Democrats, I don't know if you've seen the news lately, incredibly unpopular in this country.
I could not be less popular.

Speaker 2 Everyone hates everything you're doing. So, how do you

Speaker 2 everyone hates that? Like, I don't know what they're probably like 10% popular, whatever it is, it's horrible.

Speaker 2 How do you, as a Democratic mayor, like, do outreach to what I assume is a large percentage of your constituency that probably voted Republican and MAGA and Trump?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have a lot of different views in Boston, like in every community. I think we tend to be a place that

Speaker 1 speaks our mind and remembers our history as the community that's always invested in the greater good.

Speaker 1 We're home to the first public school in the country, the first public park, the first library, free and open to all.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, at the end of the day, we might not vote the same way or worship the same way or watch the same types of shows or follow the same influencers or whatever.

Speaker 1 But you still want your streets to have potholes filled. You want your kids to go to the best schools.
And you can't get away at the local level with just talking the talk.

Speaker 1 You really have to be out there making a difference.

Speaker 2 So you're saying you outreach by focusing on doing the work. Doing the work that everyone agrees that should be done.
Is that your method for success? Actually, just

Speaker 5 have to keep

Speaker 10 the little things.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so that's actually what you found. I'm genuinely curious how, I know you don't find this weird.
I'm telling you, most people watching this are like, how the hell is that?

Speaker 1 Okay, let me tell you a little bit more about Boston.

Speaker 2 You didn't tell me Boston. Boston is my childhood Chinatown.

Speaker 5 Okay, I know Boston.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I used to live in Manchester, New Hampshire. We would drive to Boston for, that was like our local Chinatown.
We would go there for supplies to bring it back to New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 but i don't know if you know there's not a lot of malaysian grocery stores in manchester new hampshire so we would go to boston to get it so i know i know boston that's why i'm even more surprised that you became boston even today is probably different from from those days we are the safest major city in the country and it's

Speaker 5 thank you

Speaker 1 But our historically low crime levels now were at the lowest levels in at least 70 years when we first started reliably tracking.

Speaker 1 And that has come at the same time that we have invested the most in affordable housing created more affordable housing than in 25 years invested in the most ever young people and paid summer jobs early college child care do you think people are feeling this on the streets in Boston there's a lot of work to do everywhere okay but I think generally we want everyone to be involved in Boston yeah we talk about

Speaker 1 where we've been where we need to go and there's a neighborhood meeting every other day or multiple a day

Speaker 2 so sorry for hopping on about this because I obviously are very popular in Boston.

Speaker 2 My thing right now is I'm wondering whether I can get a Democrat who's actually popular, which is very rare in this country.

Speaker 2 Every time I get to sit to someone who actually, it seems like both sides of both tribes seem to get behind, such as yourself. I kind of focus on the kind of the outreach to the other tribe more.

Speaker 2 So for example, if someone was to tell you, you know, like recently you got, I guess you got, you testified in Congress about sanctuary cities, you know, which is one issue in many things.

Speaker 2 And you defended yourself well.

Speaker 2 What do you say to the people

Speaker 2 in your constituency who might feel like, hey, why are we doing this? What's the big deal with this sanctuary city thing?

Speaker 2 If people are illegally in the country, shouldn't we arrest them and get rid of them? What is the big deal?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we are, again, we're the safest city because we're safe for everyone.

Speaker 1 In a community where over a quarter of your residents come from, were born in another country, country, if people are afraid to drop their kids off at school or call 911 when they need help or share information when they actually have information to report about a crime that happened, that makes everyone less safe, whether or not you are an immigrant, whether or not you're here in this country six generations or just arrived.

Speaker 1 So we're really focused on being that home for everyone and

Speaker 1 It's worked.

Speaker 1 And so all of the buzz around whether these kinds of cities that are more welcoming for immigrants are more dangerous, it's about a false narrative that immigrants are somehow more likely to commit crimes or cause harm.

Speaker 1 And that is just simply not true.

Speaker 1 We know that in our city, where our immigrant communities, our entrepreneurs, are holding up our health, the best hospitals in the country, the universities, and jobs that we all rely on.

Speaker 1 And in order to make sure that we can keep that progress going, everyone has to feel part of it.

Speaker 5 So I guess,

Speaker 2 I guess, I mean, look at these, I don't know, what are these people from Boston or something? I don't know what's happening here.

Speaker 2 These people came in from Boston. So what advice would you give to the Democrats running now about how to not be such losers?

Speaker 2 Or like

Speaker 2 connect to the people more.

Speaker 2 It seems like that seems, I don't know, I truly don't understand what's happening because every day on this show we talk about some bullshit that happened and then nothing seems to matter and then I'm like, I guess nothing matters anymore.

Speaker 2 So there's clearly a disconnect between the Democratic Party or maybe politics in general, if you're being generous, and the common people, right?

Speaker 2 There's some kind of, there's something weird happening.

Speaker 6 Do you feel that way?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I mean, in some ways, my entire life I've felt that way. In my family growing up with immigrant parents, government was scary.
Government was the thing you were supposed to stay away from.

Speaker 1 It was parking tickets and taxes and all sorts of things that, you know, you just try to

Speaker 1 do your thing and stay out of trouble.

Speaker 2 And now you're the government.

Speaker 1 But I got into it because this is how to make a difference.

Speaker 1 And you can change people's lives every single day by just doing the work, by trying your hardest to focus on what is stressing out the residents in your community and day by day building on it to turn that around, involving people in the conversation, and becoming a city where, again, we are home for everyone.

Speaker 1 And I think

Speaker 1 that's what it comes down to. If we do the work, if we listen to what people are

Speaker 1 saying about what's challenging in their lives, and we really focus on not just today, but tomorrow and the generations to come after us, that is a legacy of Boston, and that's a legacy that I'm really proud to be able to carry on every day.

Speaker 2 Okay, so

Speaker 5 well,

Speaker 2 look, I mean, I don't know. If you can

Speaker 2 become the mayor of Boston, maybe, you know, one of arguably the most racist cities in America,

Speaker 2 then

Speaker 2 maybe there's hope for everyone yet. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I hear that there's a...

Speaker 1 Next time you come to Boston, you're going to have to schedule an extra day, and then I will take you around all the city. And then you can get away from the...

Speaker 3 You get yelled at by women.

Speaker 2 Racist by women.

Speaker 1 We are an incredibly diverse and welcoming city.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we're a city that really is the example of how everyone in our community, again, majority people of color.

Speaker 2 We can all get together and tell immigrants.

Speaker 5 And make difference.

Speaker 5 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I got a lot of love for Boston. I just, you know, they were nice to me when I was there.
But there is a stereotype with the city.

Speaker 2 which you are totally i don't know so i don't know how you i still don't understand how you got elected

Speaker 2 i mean obviously you're good at your job and you're charming and all that, but that was enough for them to convince them.

Speaker 1 The Boston of today is a different city than a lot of people think. But even the Boston of today,

Speaker 1 we have a lot of work to do, just like every city, just like every community.

Speaker 6 No, New York City is perfect.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure if you've been out there.

Speaker 6 This place is great.

Speaker 2 We got, you know, we got rats and feces.

Speaker 2 I hear that there's like a secret WhatsApp group of Asian mayors.

Speaker 2 I met the mayor of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 A very small group, yes. Abstab and me,

Speaker 5 Bruce and Todd.

Speaker 2 Can I join this group chat?

Speaker 2 For me, I'll help you guys out. Okay, look.

Speaker 2 Mayor Wu,

Speaker 2 you're the best.

Speaker 4 Thank you for representing all Asians.

Speaker 2 Thank you for making the city of Boston great. I appreciate all you do.
I know it's a very thankless task. Boston Mayor, Michelle Wu, everybody.
Okay.

Speaker 2 We're going to take a a quick break, but we'll be right back after this.

Speaker 2 Hey, that's our show for the night. Here it is, your moment of Zen.

Speaker 14 So, like, that's a fist, American flag fire. So, I'll just from now on, when we do things where, like, we agree, I'll just hold this up rather than giving like a really big long speech.

Speaker 14 So, job well done, guys.

Speaker 2 Would you explain where that comes from?

Speaker 14 Yeah, so this is how we, when we are, when we're in like a chat with friends and we're just like, you know, you know, hamming about who we're going to bomb and all of that.

Speaker 14 But we agree, we fist American flag fire.

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