The Precap - Ronny Chieng on Escalator Conspiracies and Whether American Chaos is Fun

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So we're...

This is it.

I guess this is it.

Okay.

Hello.

Hello.

Hi, Ronnie.

Can I say hi?

Are you hosting this?

I think I'm hosting it, but it's not an interview.

Oh.

It's a conversation.

I think this is a cold open.

Okay.

Okay.

Hello.

In the middle of a cold open.

Shut up.

Okay.

Now I dropped the card.

All right.

Hi, welcome to the precap, where we sit down with this week's daily show host to talk and preview what's coming up and recap some of the news that we may have missed.

I'm Matt Koff.

I'm a writer here at The Daily Show, and I am joined today by Mr.

Ronnie Chang.

Thank you.

You look like a writer at a daily show.

Well, I am.

Good.

Yeah, you have, I don't know if you grew into this or you got hired because of this.

Well, I mean, I can write.

Sure, but you also look like you can write.

What does that mean?

Do you know what I mean?

I have a beard, I have glasses.

You have a beard.

You have glasses.

You're wearing

a goddamn hoodie.

They gave this to me.

Yes, and you're wearing it.

You look like a writer.

You got a beard, yes.

Yeah, I got a beard.

So only writers have beards.

You know what you look like.

You're cultivating this image.

You've been cultivating this image for as long as I've known you.

I don't know what you mean.

Over 10 years.

You know what I mean.

My beard grows on its own.

I don't ask my beard to grow.

Yeah, but you look like a comedy writer and you're popular.

Can we just talk about the issues?

Sure.

Please.

Sure.

So Kimmel's back.

Great.

Yeah.

I love Kimmel.

Yeah.

Do you know him?

Yeah, I know him.

He's always.

I've been a guest on his show a few times.

He's honestly a great guy.

And he's super smart.

Yeah.

By the way, like when you're, I did Who Wants to be a Millionaire with Jordan Clipper.

Oh, right.

And Kimmel hosts that.

And Kimmel, like, he can answer everything.

Really?

Yes.

If he did the Who Wants to to be a Millionaire, he could probably win a million dollars every week.

And not just because they give him the answers.

He's actually a really smart guy.

My mom saw you and Jordan.

She was really surprised that you guys were...

You did well, right?

Yeah.

Wait, she was surprised that we were on it or surprised that we did well?

That you did well.

Okay.

Well, I mean, you know, you never know.

We should have done better.

Oh, really?

We should have done better.

If you watch what we did on it, which I guess you should because it's me, Jordan, and Kimmel.

So support freedom of speech and watch our Who Wants to be a a Millionaire episode on Game Show Network.

And

we psyched ourselves out of it.

We got pretty high up, and then we psyched ourselves out of the answer.

Oh, wow.

Which is frustrating because we knew the answer, but then we talked ourselves out of it.

Oh, okay.

That's how we lost.

Yeah, that.

So

were you raising money for charity or something?

I guess so.

Yeah, something.

Yeah, it wasn't to me, which is a bummer.

So you don't know.

So you knew a lot of the answers, but you didn't know what you were raising money for?

We knew, but we didn't really care.

We were there to win this game.

Okay.

All right.

Well,

listen, Kimmel's back.

Are you worried about the daily show?

Are we allowed to...

Can I ask that?

Am I going to get electric shocked if I ask the wrong question?

Who are you talking to right now, by the way?

I don't know.

They just kind of forced me to.

They said you have to grow a beard and you have to host this podcast.

Right.

I can't tell if your overlords are the daily show or the FCC right now.

Are you talking?

Anyone who will pay me and not kill me.

That's my overlord.

I think, like,

am I worried?

I think

I don't even want to talk about this because I don't even want to put this in the universe, but I have a strong suspicion that the president doesn't watch basic cable.

Yeah, yeah.

And I'm not complaining about that.

No, definitely.

I think for him, TV is ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox.

Yeah, definitely.

And everything else is like, what?

It's kind of fun.

So like we can just kind of do whatever.

Do whatever.

And if he does find out about us, that kind of means we're doing really well.

Yeah.

Because we've gone super viral.

Yeah.

If he finds out about us, we'll do really well for another week.

And then

that's it.

And then that's it.

But I do, I mean, tell me how you feel about this.

Like, I feel like

as much as obviously

I'm a freedom of speech guy being a comic and having chosen to come to America.

But I also feel like we did not get into comedy for the job stability.

No, that's true.

So, when people are like, you worry about your job, I'm like, I was never supposed to have job security.

I'm basically a circus performer.

Sure, exactly.

Yeah.

So, if I wanted job security, I would have stayed in law.

That's right.

So,

in a way, I just feel like

we go as hard as we can every show, and then whatever happens, happens.

Totally.

I don't know if you.

I mean, I

did not get into it for job security, but now I like job security.

because now i'm in my four i start when i started out comedy i was in my 20s yeah i was like ah i'm an artist yes you are and now i'm like i have a mortgage yeah you're in your 50s now i'm i'm in my 70s now and uh social security who knows how long it's gonna be around you look rough your before and after comedy photos are rough

you know you have photos of me before i did comedy if we did a before and after uh-huh i your when i started here i looked way way younger.

And

it's been a little over 10 years.

It's been a deterioration for sure.

Yeah, oh, since you've been here.

Since I've been here, it's been a deterioration.

Yeah, you look exactly the same.

Oh, thank you.

You may look better.

As long as you're going to stand by the insult for me, that's fine.

I won't take it personally.

No.

Well, freedom of speech people here.

Yeah, right.

You can just hurt people's feelings.

That's why we're, that's the American way.

That's the American way.

We hurt people's feelings, and if you cry,

we yell at you for not supporting freedom of speech.

Exactly.

It's great.

It's great.

Yeah, okay.

So,

Trump,

we can't just have a conversation.

We have to talk about important things.

I guess.

You can't just sit here and insult me for the entire,

you know.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

So, how do you feel about like Trump just switching teams?

Now he hates Putin.

Oh, he hates Putin now?

I think.

Now he hates Putin.

Does he hate Putin or is he just saying that Ukraine should win now?

Before you...

He's on team Ukraine.

He's on team Ukraine now?

Yeah.

It's hard to keep up with.

I think

the logical

geopolitical stance should be respecting people's borders.

So,

yeah, you should probably respect.

I think you should be on the side of the country who's

you should be against the country that is not respecting someone's borders.

I think it's a very basic.

So you support Ukraine?

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

So him switching over, I guess, is a good thing, right?

Yeah, here's what I want to know: as you're not from here, that's no secret, you're not from America.

Please don't say that into the microphone.

You're okay, I don't want to say you are summoned.

You are from America, yeah.

Don't summon ice here, okay?

Fine, you don't summon ice into this podcast, and it'll be a very different podcast.

Yeah, um,

I'll call them off.

Imagine 20 minutes of this episode, this one negotiating with ice.

That'd be

a great podcast.

That would be like podcast history.

Do you, are you?

How do you feel about Trump?

Are you just kind of?

Because I feel like if you're not from here, maybe he affects you a little less emotionally.

No, no, I think that's not it.

I think for me, I've been

I have aspired to come to America for

20 years of my life.

13 years of my life.

I left when I was seven, and it took me until I was 30 to come back.

So what is that?

13 years.

Wow.

And so that long of wanting to come back and wanting to come back to do comedy and getting to do it, actually getting to come back to America and be on the daily show and do stand-up comedy.

So for me,

I always viewed America with rose-tinted glasses.

And I always excused a lot of its flaws

because I just felt like...

the pros outweigh the cons or it was part of your dream it's part of my dream also maybe there's an idea of like like hey I like it because of the show business.

Like, I like Back to the Future.

I like Michael Jordan.

I liked Ninja Turtles.

I didn't, I wasn't supporting the Iraq war.

You know what I mean?

And it's very convenient for me to obviously disassociate that.

But that's my point is that what I like about America

wasn't the war stuff.

It was the pop culture.

That would be weird.

And it's the industry I joined.

So I always kind of viewed it from that lens.

And this year, it has been tough justifying.

It's been a little tough justifying why, you know.

I think America is too fun.

It is very fun.

I think that's the problem.

We have a fun president.

Yeah.

We're fun.

There's nobody who's more fun than America.

Right?

I'm trying to think.

Like culturally, you know.

We're very chaotic fun.

Chaotic fun.

That's the thing.

I mean, that's the problem.

It's like two sides of the same coin.

Yes, chaotic.

The reason that you wanted to come here is like the same reason everything is like fucked up.

Well, it's just like

we're a country that ate too much sugar.

Yeah, I mean, I didn't come here for the chaos, but I've learned to embrace it.

Yeah, totally.

I did come here for the fun, but not necessarily chaotic fun.

Right.

But I guess I take your point.

I think the American fun did not used to be this chaotic until the last five years or so.

I think it's social media.

I think social media is taken on the everything boil over.

It's just crazy.

Yes.

I think the,

look, we're not coming out with new takes here.

No, no, no.

Social media is bad.

I think the country has taken on this persona of the comment section

too much.

You know, and it's like we shouldn't be the comment section.

And I actually don't believe America actually is the comment section.

I think if I can say something in defense of America is that I think

we, a lot of us are too online, and

we take the internet to be the reality of America when it really isn't.

Oh, definitely.

You know,

there's a lot of shit that happens on the internet that we assume is American, but it's actually not.

Totally, yeah.

You know what I mean?

And not only is it from not American sources, some of it's not even human sources.

Some of it is just AI bots trying to cause

stir up shit.

And then the other aspect, if you really want to have some perspective, is that like, I think in America, we tend to over-index on what's wrong with America because we have this freedom of speech and freedom of press for the most part.

And we have these

journalism institutions that report on America and how bad it's doing.

Right.

And I I think

I think we over-index on what is wrong with America a lot of the times.

And I think if you want to actual

do an actual serious geopolitical analysis of this country compared to other countries, you can't do that without factoring in what is going well in America and also what's going badly in other countries as well.

But because of the nature of our conversations and the internet and whatever, we just talk about what's bad here and what's great overseas.

And I don't think we talk enough about what is okay here.

Like

the liquid capital that exists in America is

insane.

I think the GDP of America is like bigger than the next five countries or something.

Don't quote me on that.

Oh, yeah.

There's something.

We have a huge military.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, that's good.

Sure.

I mean, I'm not saying it's good.

Like, we shouldn't use it.

Sure.

But, I mean,

we can afford it.

That's good.

Right.

And what's the problem?

I mean, a lot of Americans are poor, sure.

Right.

Again, here we go, over-indexing on what's wrong with you.

I'm sorry.

America's fine.

We're doing great.

Yeah, so there's a lot that is going well here as an immigrant.

That's my perspective.

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, 100%.

I mean, I just, it's just interesting because I'm like, I'm writing for you.

We're talking about Trump.

And I'm feeling embarrassed.

For the country?

Yeah.

For the country as I'm writing for you.

And I'm like, I don't necessarily know, you know what I mean?

Yes.

That was why it was a little bit hard, like writing for Trevor, because I have all these emotional feelings about Trump and like, oh, God, we elected this guy.

Yes.

And then I'm writing for a host who's not American.

Your perspective must be like, wow, this is interesting.

It just may not hit you in the same way.

Yeah, well,

you're not wrong.

Humiliate.

No, no, you're not wrong about that because

being an immigrant who chose to be here, I need to.

Oh, that's true.

Maybe you're dumber.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You shouldn't have come here.

I want to leave.

You want to be here.

Yeah, I want to be here.

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Yeah, so listen, Tylenol,

it's what is the thing with it?

Like, you're like, oh, now he has a problem with Tylenol.

And then you're just, I'm just like, well, why?

Tylenol didn't give him campaign money?

I mean, that's.

It has to, there can't be much more than that, right?

It's all about money.

I think.

I don't know if it's that simple.

I think it's multifactorial, but all the factors are dumb.

I don't think there's anything smart about it.

I just think the people in charge of the health,

what's it called, the Secretary of Health.

Yeah.

He RFK Jr.

He has a really anti-science view of the world and

of science.

And so he has this weird agenda of trying to connect

dots that don't exist.

Sure, yeah.

Specifically between pharmaceuticals and, I guess, autism.

Autism.

And so he just loves any excuse to be like this causes autism he loves to find a cause for autism yeah there's that but then there's like trump just kind of goes along with it yeah he goes along not only he really went at you know tylenol pretty hard yeah which makes me think that yes there's the rfk autism thing yes but then there's like i got the sense from how many times he's like don't take tylenol that there's some personal vendetta like maybe he had herpes in the 80s and he took tylenol and it just didn't work and he's like, I'm going to get you Tylenol.

Right.

I yeah, I think he, um, I think someone told him, well, well, RFK Jr.

told him, this is my take.

Right.

And I think for some reason Trump is like, yeah, okay, I'll sell this.

Let's go.

And then he just goes.

But can only good happen?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's very bizarre, but also is it more

it's power for the course.

Oh, sure.

Right?

It's as bizarre as anything.

Yeah.

It reminded me of the bleach thing from the first term.

It's a bleach thing.

It's like he just loves to get up and spew misinformation.

Yeah, about health and yeah, yeah.

He likes to play doctor, too.

It's kind of funny.

And I don't know what the...

I don't know how to stop it.

I mean, it's.

Well, it's not your job to stop it.

Right.

It's on basic cable.

Yeah.

No, well, I mean, not my job to stop, but I don't know what anyone can do about it.

You kind of have to ignore it a bit, I guess.

Yeah, yeah.

You know?

I think if you're...

half the country, hopefully more, you will ignore it.

Right.

I just I get worried about people who are just like well He's the president So what he's saying is right.

Yeah like you know, I just I don't know how many people have critical thinking skills, but based on the fact that he got in again, I'm guessing not too many.

Yes.

Does it get old covering Trump for you?

You wish that we talked about

the producer here, Ian Berger, had a great take on that.

He was like, Did you imagine we'd be talking about when you started doing comedy?

Did you imagine you would be talking about one guy for 12 years of exactly one guy?

Yeah, so does it get old?

Yeah.

In a way of like, I wish we didn't have to talk about this.

Yeah.

And I will.

That's your choice.

I will take a functional country over, you know, an easy source of comedy any day.

Does it get old?

Yes.

And then does he always find new angles?

Yeah, always.

He always finds a new angle on this.

It does feel like he's working for us in a certain way.

He's like, I'm going to bring in RFK this season.

I'm going to hire.

hire.

Oh, this will be a great, like, six months of material.

Exactly.

You know what I mean?

It's just, he really does function like a writer.

Yeah.

He's just pitching stuff to us.

Yes, he's great at improv.

Yeah, he's great at improv.

I would say no teleprompter at the UN.

No teleprompter at the improv.

No problem.

No teleprompter, no problem.

He's great at persuasion.

Oh, yeah.

Very persuasive person.

And he's great at stand-up.

He is a master at stand-up.

Does an hour every he beats Josh Johnson.

I mean,

in terms of prolific.

He's more prolific.

Just barely.

Yeah, yeah.

But he has a lot of followers.

Yeah.

Sure.

Yeah, he went to the UN.

That's why Trump went to the UN.

Trump went to the UN.

Talked a bunch of shit.

Talked a bunch of shit.

The escalator didn't work.

Escalator didn't work.

A lot of stuff broke down when he was on it.

Yeah.

Which is kind of funny.

Yeah, I think it's funny.

Yeah, that's the thing.

Not only does he do funny things, funny things happen to him.

Yeah.

He attracts chaos.

He attracts chaos.

I mean, things kept breaking at the UN, and now there's the conspiracy of like,

was it orchestrated or was it just things at the UN are really dysfunctional?

I know, I know.

And also, it's like, after he's been shot at and all these things, who cares if the escalator isn't working?

It's a little de-heightening.

Right.

Like, I'm like, oh, we found the guy who pressed the button.

Yeah.

It's tough to beat getting shot at.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If he climbed the non-working escalator and had a heart attack,

then we're back in

the escalator.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, he went to UN, teleported broke, escalator broke, and then something else broke.

My faith in humanity.

So do you think this was orchestrated or?

I think that there's like some guy who's just like, well, I'm just going to fuck with him a little bit.

Right.

Who wouldn't take that chance?

Right.

You know, give him some gum and his teeth get all black.

Well, the other thing is he was there talking shit about the UN as well, right?

So it's like,

you know, if you're going to poke the bear, you know, we're going to be like, like, okay, well, you would.

You know what I think it is?

What?

The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein.

He lived on the east side, not far from.

He lived on the east side?

Yeah.

Oh, the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein.

You never been?

No.

To Jeffrey Epstein's apartment?

No.

Oh, yeah.

I've never been.

It was great.

But a lot of wine.

But why would he fuck with Trump?

They were like friends.

Well, now Trump is like, oh, I never knew the guy.

Oh, so he means nothing to me.

Right.

This is his like, stop denying our friendship.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, he's probably in hell, you know?

How do you hear?

Epstein?

Right.

Just like hearing all this mean things.

And he managed to get out of hell to fuck with Trump in the UN.

Listen, I don't know.

I don't even believe in God, so I don't know.

So, yeah,

but America, the last couple years, has been very anti-UN.

Oh, yeah.

And America is the one that started the UN.

I know.

I think the UN is moving to Africa, right?

I read somewhere that...

yeah, no, that's true.

They're moving out of New York.

I mean,

I hate to see them go, but like at the same time, I'm like, yeah, New York doesn't need you guys.

Yeah.

Do they know, like, is it the high plains?

Like, hopefully it'll be like good climate circumstances for the UN.

You know, parts of Africa are not as hospitable.

Are you about to say something racist?

Let's go.

What?

That part of Africa is a desert?

That's racist?

Yeah.

I think it feels racist.

Parts of America are a desert.

It feels racist.

Hey, you know what?

As a New Yorker, 10 years now, this is my 10-year anniversary at the Daily Show and 10-year anniversary in New York.

I think I can call myself a New Yorker.

Hate to see it.

Love the UN, what it stands for.

We don't need a traffic here.

That's true.

Let's go.

Africa, is it racist to say it has a lot of space?

That is racist.

Yeah.

Anything you say about Africa is racist.

Yes.

It's great.

Even that is condescending.

I let every single person act.

That is condescending and and therefore a low risk.

Condescending.

Yeah.

You're like everybody from Africa.

You don't hate one person.

I don't hate one person.

From Africa?

No, not even one person.

I haven't met.

What about criminals?

What about African criminals?

They deserve another shot.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

That's condescending.

Why is that condescending?

Because you're saying that.

Lock him up, throw away the key.

That's good.

I mean, you have that value.

Then I'm incarcerating.

No.

This is not.

I'm trying to get him in trouble.

What is this?

This is a pre-cap.

This is not.

I know.

I don't even know where

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All right, enough living in the past, Ronnie.

You're hosting the daily show this week for, I think, is it the first time?

No, you've done it before.

What the fuck?

So, yeah, there's a lot of news.

There's a government shutdown that's looming

on the 30th.

Okay.

That's tomorrow, Tuesday.

Okay.

Do you know anything about that?

The government, it's always almost shutting down.

It's always almost shutting down.

That's one way of phrasing it.

Yeah.

It's almost always shutting down.

That's bad.

It is bad, but there's a normalcy to it now.

I think, also,

don't the Republicans control every branch of government?

Yeah, they do.

So, how can it shut down?

I guess if Democrats put up a fight, I don't know, it's not going to shut down.

Anyway, what's the other thing that's happening this week?

Taylor Swift is going to release

a new album.

Good for her.

Have you ever met her?

No.

Okay.

No.

Are you excited for her and Travis?

Sure.

Can you just

say a nice message to them in the camera?

Love Taylor Swift.

Love Travis.

Okay, cool.

Travis was a question in Who Wants to be a Millionaire.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Did you get it right?

Yeah, it took a while, but yeah, we got it right.

It took some deliberating, but we got it right.

Cool.

Yeah.

The question was, where is the where where are the Kelsey brothers from?

what state took a while took a while to get there but what

state oh we figured out ohio ohio ohio how did you figure did you phone a friend because they were white and we were like

ohio is the white state yeah and yeah we nailed it

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What's something you've watched, read, listened to, argued about, or has just been on your mind lately?

Maybe like a recipe?

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I found such a weird pivot.

Well, do you have good recipes?

I found a great paleo chili recipe.

Okay.

That's great.

Shout out to Nom Nom Paleo.

Nom Nom Paleo?

Yeah, look for this chili recipe.

It's in a slow cooker.

Slow cooker.

Pressure cooker.

So pressure cooker.

And it's paleo, so there's no processed

carbohydrates or anything in it.

And what's different from that, from like regular chili?

I don't know.

I don't know why it's so good, but it just tastes way better.

Like, everyone I've made it for loves it.

The secret ingredient apparently is Vietnamese fish sauce.

Oh, okay.

Interesting.

But it's just like a dash.

I don't know.

All right.

So, check out Nom Non.

Yeah, it changed everything.

Check out Nom Nom Paleo Chili, please.

All right.

If you want to eat a bit healthy and you want a simple meal that's one pot, yeah, I love a one pot.

One pot pressure cooker.

You know, I've been eating a lot of miso soup.

Oh, yeah.

It's very easy.

Like, you just make it at your desk.

Oh, you're doing instant miso?

Yeah.

Oof.

It's fine.

Sure.

I can't tell the difference between that and like getting it at a restaurant.

Oh, okay.

You have no palate?

I have no palate.

Okay.

I could eat dog shit.

What's the Jewish biscuit that's really dry

that I ate?

I ate some recently.

Are you talking about matzah?

Yeah, matzah.

I had that for the first time.

Yeah, what do you think?

I was addicted to it.

You were addicted to matzah?

Yeah, I couldn't stop eating it.

Was there a crack on it?

No, it was just matzah with nothing on it.

And Dan Radosh was like, hey, you gotta, like,

you know, this is not gonna come out of your body well.

And I didn't know that.

He said it's not gonna come out of your body

well.

Yeah, he said it's very dry, and so it gives you constipation or something.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Okay.

Is that true?

I don't know.

I mean, not every Jew knows about constipation.

What about matzah?

I know a ton about matzah.

It's unleavened bread.

I don't know how much matzah Daniel Ridash is eating to the fact that like he's getting serious digestive problems.

Well no he was telling me.

He was telling me because I was going to town on this matzah.

Oh you were?

In the writers I was like

I was like cookie monso with this matzah.

He was like hey just let you know like

you know you you should probably watch out for the how it you know yeah don't overdo it.

It's a very supportive workplace here at the daily show.

There you go.

You eating you drinking miso soup, I'm eating matzah.

yeah i mean why can't the world be like this

but we are like this the world we are like this the world is like this the internet is not like this you think one day everyone will just be eating misozzo getting constipated together

yeah and then drinking too much miso soup and then having diarrhea you really think that world is possible that world we live in that world right now all right i don't know i don't believe it

what do you mean you're living it I am.

Yeah.

No, I am.

We are.

Yeah.

You don't think other people in the world are doing the same thing?

No,

it doesn't feel that way.

It feels like we are a nation dividing.

You got to delete Instagram.

You got to delete Instagram.

Delete Instagram.

That's my.

You want me to wreck something?

I recommend this: Dumb Phones.

That's

dumb phones and reading.

Okay.

Read books and get a dumb phone.

Any books?

Sure.

I read.

This is a while ago.

I read Three Body Problem sci-fi.

Okay.

Very,

very life-changing, there I say.

Believe the hype.

It's a great sci-fi series.

I don't want to spoil anything, but what's interesting about Three Body Problem, they made it into a series, and we had Rosalind Chow from the show on Netflix on the show as a guest.

But I read the book before I watched the TV show.

Both are great.

The book, I never realized how much of sci-fi for me was Western sci-fi

oriented.

I just assumed that was what sci-fi was.

And this is sci-fi written by a Chinese guy in China.

And you can tell this different philosophy.

And I don't think this is

spoiling anything in the book,

but Western sci-fi is very much: there's a hero who has to save the universe most of the time, at its core.

This Chinese sci-fi, this particular one anyway, is very much like, hey, no one's coming to save us.

We're all in this together.

Oh, wow.

And it was a very interesting.

Yeah, it was a very interesting change of perspective.

And when you read Three Body Problem, you can tell that

it's not written by an American in a good way.

And Neil Brennan read it and told me he couldn't believe a human being wrote it.

Oh, interesting.

That's how, like.

But there is a protagonist, like somebody you identify.

There's a few protagonists.

It's written from different perspectives.

So it's not just one guy for three books.

Yeah.

Oh, I see.

There's time skips.

There's different people coming in and out.

the overall themes are there honestly it's it's great it's okay three-body problem yeah so read books and get a dumb phone okay yeah is my is my cure for uh the world right now i think okay great no one's gonna listen to that so

yeah i mean do you think anyone's actually still listening no this no no no we they stopped that when you said africa ronnie uh you've been a wonderful guest thank you for having me on and uh i've been a wonderful guest because i don't host this podcast okay so who is who is hosting i don't know but the door locks from the outside

um if you want more ronnie hot takes i think you're just gonna have to watch the freaking daily show please thank you ronnie thank you matt coffee that's right you're welcome thank you daily show thank you daily show thank you buddha thank you jesus thank you america thank you america ferreira

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