Epstein Emails Implicating Trump Surface as Ghislaine Gets VIP Treatment in Prison | Jay Jurden
Nick Offerman holds a microscope to Trump’s “I love farmers” act to expose the policies, corporations, and advancements in processed food that have Americans yearning to eat like Europeans and small farmers struggling to stay afloat.
Writer, actor, and comedian Jay Jurden sits down with Josh to discuss his debut stand-up special, “Yes Ma’am” on Hulu. He shares why his Southern charm prevents him from feeling like a real New Yorker, his experience studying theater at a football school, how studying the dramatic arts helps him stay present on stage, and his favorite jokes that both he and Wanda Sykes have ever written.
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Speaker 6 From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Show with your host, Josh Johnson.
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I'm Josh Johnson. We've got so much to talk about tonight.
We read some emails that should have been a meeting. An emotional support dog is about to quit on the job.
Speaker 7 And Nick Offerman has a beef with how we make beef. So let's get into the headlines.
Speaker 7
Donald Trump's been having a pretty good time. The shutdown ended.
He didn't have to concede anything. And he didn't even have to give poor people health care.
His favorite kind of deal.
Speaker 7 Everything's coming up, Trump. Nothing can stop the Trump train now.
Speaker 5 Breaking news, convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein mentioned Donald Trump by name several times in private emails.
Speaker 7 Ladies and gentlemen, the Trump train is experiencing a slight delay.
Speaker 7 There is an Epstein file on the tracks. We should be moving as soon as we get that cleared.
Speaker 7
But fine, Epstein mentioned Trump in an email. That doesn't mean he did anything wrong.
Maybe the email was about how Trump never comes to his sex parties.
Speaker 6 Rude.
Speaker 7 I say this because I'm an American living in America.
Speaker 7 And no matter what party you're in or who you voted for, it would be better for all of us, as a general matter, if we do not have a sexual predator as president.
Speaker 10 Because it would.
Speaker 7 It would make our country look so bad. You know, how embarrassing would that be if we, America, went from being the shining city on a hill to not being allowed within a thousand feet of the hill?
Speaker 7 So let's just stay calm and see what the emails said before we jump to conclusions.
Speaker 4 These are emails from Jeffrey Epstein to Ghelane Maxwell. This is one from April 2nd, 2011.
Speaker 4 And in this email, Jeffrey Epstein writes to Ghelene Maxwell and says, quote, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
Speaker 6 Okay,
Speaker 7
that doesn't sound good at all. But, you know, that dog hasn't barked could mean a lot of things.
Maybe Trump's feet hurt.
Speaker 11 All right.
Speaker 7 So that's all the news in terms of bombshell emails?
Speaker 12 It's not a lot.
Speaker 7 It's not like there's an email with a journalist where he's strategizing how to blackmail Trump.
Speaker 4 Michael Wolf says, quote, I hear the CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you.
Speaker 4 If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the House, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you.
Speaker 4 Or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt.
Speaker 7 I like that Epstein was like, yeah, that seems like a lot of work. I'm probably just going to kill myself.
Speaker 7 And did he really have leverage anyway? All I've seen so far is Epstein and Maxwell saying Trump is a dog that hasn't barked. We don't know what he didn't bark about.
Speaker 7 Maybe the rest of that email clears him.
Speaker 13
I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Unnamed victims spent hours at my house with him.
He has never once been mentioned.
Speaker 13 According to the released emails, Maxwell responds i have been thinking about that
Speaker 7 oh i
Speaker 7 i think the trump train crashed
Speaker 7 because this isn't just not a good look it's one of the worst looks i've ever seen like i'm talking adrian brody in a roster wig bad
Speaker 7 also why was jeffrey epsey writing about his crimes in emails that's so dumb he's he's firing off his blackberry to ghelain like hey girl following up about the sex crimes
Speaker 7 Hope Trump doesn't snitch about the sex crimes. Hit me up if you want sex crimes this weekend.
Speaker 7
Say what you want about Donald Trump, but he knows better than to put incriminating shit in emails. He does it in person or on the phone or reportedly inside a sketch of a naked lady.
But never email.
Speaker 7 Trump has to be pretty unhappy. That new evidence is coming out because he's worked so hard to prevent that.
Speaker 7 Remember, Ghelane Maxwell got moved into a country club prison after she gave an an interview saying this.
Speaker 17 I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects.
Speaker 16 Well, no, no, that's something.
Speaker 7 And she said it British, so you got to believe her.
Speaker 7
I don't know what she's got on him, but it must be bad because she didn't even exonerate him. She didn't say Trump is innocent.
All she said was, I didn't see him do anything.
Speaker 7 I also didn't see him do anything. What do I get?
Speaker 13 That's all she said, and now she's being treated like royalty.
Speaker 18 A whistleblower alleges that Ghillaine Maxwell is getting special treatment in prison.
Speaker 19 Maxwell's meals have been customized.
Speaker 2 They are delivered directly to her cell.
Speaker 19 She is personally escorted to the exercise area after hours and gets to enjoy recreation time in staff-only areas.
Speaker 19 When she wants private meetings, the warden personally arranges them, providing an assortment of snacks and refreshments for her guests.
Speaker 7 I mean, she gets to hang out in the staff areas. Can you imagine being a prison guard who can't watch TV in the break room because Ghelain taking a nap on the couch?
Speaker 7 But this is truly insane. There is not another convicted child sex trafficker in the world who would get this kind of treatment in prison.
Speaker 7 There's actually no way within the confines of prison that her life could get any better.
Speaker 20 Add to that one more perk for the convicted sex offender, puppy time.
Speaker 20 According to the whistleblower, an inmate who trains puppies to become service dogs was instructed to provide one to Maxwell for a time so she could play with the puppy.
Speaker 7 Do not give that dog to Delaine.
Speaker 7 That's not what they meant when they said take the dog to the groomer.
Speaker 7 So look, I don't know what Ghelain knows about whatever Donald Trump did. All I know is that every detail that comes out makes him look more and more suspicious.
Speaker 7 And if you thought this couldn't look any worse, wait till you see the birthday card that Trump sent that dog.
Speaker 7 For more on the fallout of these new emails, let's go live to Ghelain Maxwell's Prison with our own Ronnie Chang.
Speaker 7 Ronnie, what's the latest?
Speaker 12 Well, Josh, I've been talking to White House officials and they say this is absurd. Ghelaine Maxwell is not being treated differently from any other federal prisoner.
Speaker 10 Wait, where are you?
Speaker 7 Are you in Trump's new ballroom? I thought you were supposed to be reporting from her prison.
Speaker 12 Yeah, this is a prison.
Speaker 12 This is Ghelane Maxwell's cell.
Speaker 7 That whole room is just for her?
Speaker 12 Yes, but it's not that nice, okay? The bed is king-size, but the pillow is only queen-size. It's like
Speaker 12 the aesthetics are all off.
Speaker 12 Believe me, this woman is doing hard time.
Speaker 6 Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, here.
Speaker 15 Can I get one of these? Wait, is this shrimp?
Speaker 25 Would you like shrimp?
Speaker 26 No, I'm allergic to shrimp.
Speaker 6 What a hell-hole.
Speaker 27 Ronnie, Ronnie, come on.
Speaker 7 Most prisoners don't get past apps in their cell.
Speaker 12 Oh, I wouldn't call shrimp puffs an app, okay? It's an hors d'oeuvre at best.
Speaker 12 Let's tone down the rhetoric.
Speaker 7 The point is that Trump is clearly trying to hide something here.
Speaker 10 I mean, just look at all those emails.
Speaker 12 Don't take my word for it, okay? Just ask Delaine when she gets back.
Speaker 7 What do you mean, back? Where is she?
Speaker 12 Oh, I don't know. I think this is one of her work from home days.
Speaker 7 She gets work from home for prison?
Speaker 12 Yeah, but don't twist this into sounding like special treatment, okay? It's two days off, three days in.
Speaker 12 Talk about human rights violation. violation.
Speaker 12 Wait, is that music? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the concert's about to start.
Speaker 7 Don't tell me they are doing a private concert for Ghalain.
Speaker 11
No, no, no, no. It's not private.
It's for her and her puppy.
Speaker 12 All right.
Speaker 7 Ronnie Chang, everybody.
Speaker 7 When we come back, Nick Offerman will give us his opinion, so don't go away.
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We all know I've got great opinions, but I'm not the only one. Studies show that other people also have opinions.
So, here with another installment of In My Opinion is our good friend, Nick Offerman.
Speaker 27 Hello, I am that guy from that show, Nick Offerman.
Speaker 16 And today I am here to talk to you about farmers.
Speaker 33 Now farmers aren't just guys mowing down their cornfield to build a baseball field for ghosts.
Speaker 27 They are also a vital part of America's economy and national identity.
Speaker 22 Now luckily, they have a staunch ally.
Speaker 7 We have the greatest farmers in the world.
Speaker 34 I cherish our farmers.
Speaker 10 I'm a big farmer person.
Speaker 6 I love the farmers. I think they're great.
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I love the farmers. They're great.
They're the greatest. The farmers love Trump.
Speaker 23 And I love the farmers.
Speaker 24 I love cows.
Speaker 30 Come on.
Speaker 30 Come on. Love is love.
Speaker 27 And I've seen that guy dance.
Speaker 14 I bet he knows his way around an utter.
Speaker 6 And look,
Speaker 27 I happen to share the non-sexual part of his affection for our farmers.
Speaker 32 I've been lucky enough to work on the small farms of people like English farmer James Reebanks and Kentucky's Mary and Wendell Berry.
Speaker 32 They let a Hollywood muckety muck like me help with herding the cattle, scrubbing the animals, and of course, testing the semen.
Speaker 32 They assured me that's the most coveted job on the farm. So please consider my hands sticky with experience.
Speaker 32 Unfortunately, small farms like those have been tragically disappearing for decades.
Speaker 7 According to census data, there are already 10% fewer farms than there were just five years ago.
Speaker 34 We've lost half the cattle ranchers in the United States since 1980. About 90% of the hog farmers.
Speaker 36 In the last two decades, more than 100,000 small farms have disappeared across America's landscape.
Speaker 14 America cannot afford to lose this many farms.
Speaker 32 Without them, we'll have nothing to point at and shout, cow, on road trips.
Speaker 27 But the real reason these small farms are going away is in America, we don't farm to feed people because we are not growing food.
Speaker 9 What we're growing is ingredients.
Speaker 37 The number of farms and what they produce for human consumption have been on a steady decline over the past few decades in the U.S.
Speaker 37 Instead, what's being grown is corn and soybeans used for livestock feed and ethanol or as cheap sugars, starches, and oils in highly processed foods.
Speaker 35 In other words, we're not growing corn and beans to eat.
Speaker 32 They're being grown to turn them into whatever the f ⁇ a Dorito is.
Speaker 28 I believe that is short for dirt burrito.
Speaker 22 And this is something America's farmers have known for decades.
Speaker 35 Our food system is no longer about food, it's now about corporate interests, and everything is engineered to make more profit than nutrition.
Speaker 9 Now, don't get me wrong, I enjoy junk food. I'll eat a Twinkie.
Speaker 24 I mean, they're like butt plugs, fun in moderation,
Speaker 22 and you can stick them up your butt.
Speaker 28 Or so I've read.
Speaker 16 But as the number of small farms shrinks, the diversity of our food supply shrinks with it.
Speaker 32 And you might think, well that can't be true.
Speaker 24 Look at all the choices I have at the grocery store.
Speaker 28 Well look closer.
Speaker 25 Tyson, Cargill, JBS, and National Beef together control roughly 85% of all beef production in America.
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This bacon is a good example. You know, these look like three different choices of bacon.
They're all actually the same company.
Speaker 28 You capitalist pigs have ruined our normal pigs.
Speaker 33 How dare you trick me with bacon?
Speaker 32 Like I'm some dog you're training to sit. Now, in fairness, I will present my paw for meat snacks.
Speaker 32 Nevertheless, giant food conglomerates have turned America's farms into what we call factory farms, which is an oxymoron like bittersweet, veggie burger, or Canadian football.
Speaker 6 Well,
Speaker 16 we're all friends.
Speaker 32 Now just look at some of the wonderful benefits of our current industrial food system.
Speaker 13 Ultra-processed foods make up 73% of the U.S. food supply.
Speaker 38 This actually has very real health impacts, high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease.
Speaker 39 Ultra-processed foods may be linked to anxiety and depression and sleep problems. In 2015, the WHO classified ultra-processed meat as carcinogenic.
Speaker 30 Jesus, I'm trying to make a BLT here, not become Spider-Man.
Speaker 14 Now, you don't need me to tell you that our food system is a nightmare. We all understand in our guts that the quality of food is better in other countries.
Speaker 28 It's the one time even Fox News will praise Europe.
Speaker 18 When you go to Europe, the food is delicious.
Speaker 39 It's so fresh.
Speaker 18 And you don't gain weight if you eat a big bowl of pasta. We can eat pizza.
Speaker 36 We don't gain any weight. You feel fresh, you feel clean.
Speaker 18 You come back here, you start eating pasta, and you gain weight immediately. Again, so there's something wrong with our food system.
Speaker 28 Yes, why is it that the food tastes better in Europe?
Speaker 32 It's not just because you're starving after waiting in line for 12 hours to see a painting of a modestly breasted woman not smiling.
Speaker 31 It's because they prioritize organic food made on smaller farms.
Speaker 14 The average farm size in Europe is 39 acres.
Speaker 32 In America, it's 500 acres.
Speaker 35 European farms are like their bathing suits, much smaller.
Speaker 30 So you can see every detail of their meat and veg
Speaker 20 and the good news is we can be more like europe but unfortunately right now our policies seem to be making it even harder on all our farmers american soybean farmers have been hit hard by trump's trade war cattle ranchers are furious over president trump's plans to bring down beef prices by bringing in more from other countries
Speaker 10 You're telling me the president is disappointing beef boys and soy boys?
Speaker 23 That's practically all the boys.
Speaker 14 So Mr.
Speaker 28 President, please live up to your pro-farmer rhetoric.
Speaker 32 Help us refocus America's agriculture on things that Mother Nature would recognize and not the producers of high fructose corn syrup.
Speaker 10 We can change our approach to food to make it more like actual food.
Speaker 35 We can change our approach to farming to reflect respect for farmers and for the animals we consume.
Speaker 16 We can have a system.
Speaker 6 Yes.
Speaker 14 We can have a system that lives up to the words of America's greatest agrarian mind.
Speaker 24 I love cows.
Speaker 31 I couldn't agree more, but hey, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 31 Nick Offerman, everyone. Be sure to check out Nick and the new Netflix series, Death by Lightning.
Speaker 6 Also, Nick's book, Little Wood Chucks, is out now.
Speaker 7 When we come back, Jay Jay will be joining me on the show. Don't go away.
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Speaker 7 My guest tonight is a writer, actor, and comedian whose debut special for Hulu was called Yes Ma'am. Please welcome Jay Jordan.
Speaker 7
Thank you so much for coming. Thank you for having me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7 This is so cool because I actually know you.
Speaker 6 Yes.
Speaker 12 Like I really know you.
Speaker 27 We know each other very well.
Speaker 21 We know each other so well that every now and then you get this and I get this. People say, hey, Jay, great job on the daily show.
Speaker 6 And I go, oh, okay.
Speaker 21 What segment? They go, at the desk.
Speaker 6 I go, oh, Josh.
Speaker 7
It's funny because, okay, so we got past at the cellar around the same time. And I remember I was at the cellar waiting to go up.
And I was just like eating or something.
Speaker 7
And this person came up and they were like, dude, you the other day were so, were so funny. You were so, and like your jokes were like, boom, boom, boom.
It was like rapid fire. It was crazy.
Speaker 7
And in my head, I was like, I know they're not talking about me. Like, that's...
That's not even what I do. And then, and then they told me one of your jokes.
I was like, oh, this is Jay.
Speaker 21 Yeah, y'all like, I'm not married to a man.
Speaker 7 No, thank you so much for coming. I'm so excited about your specialty.
Speaker 6 Thank you. That means a lot.
Speaker 7 Yeah, so you grew up in Mississippi.
Speaker 21 Yeah, and you grew up in Louisiana.
Speaker 9 Yes, yes.
Speaker 7 And so we're both.
Speaker 6 Yeah. Look at that.
Speaker 6 Yeah.
Speaker 6 Look at them.
Speaker 21 We got teeth.
Speaker 6 Look at that. See?
Speaker 21 They don't think we do.
Speaker 7 And so we've both been here now for a long time. Do you feel like a New Yorker?
Speaker 21 So I've been in New York officially 10 years, but I will never say I'm a New Yorker because I still speak to everybody on the street.
Speaker 6 I'm always like, how you doing? Hey, yeah, hey, yeah, baby.
Speaker 21
I'm still very southern. When I see an old lady, sometimes on the train, you know this feeling.
You see an older woman get on the train, you instantly get up because you're a southern gentleman.
Speaker 21 And what you just said to her as a New Yorker is, sit your old ass down.
Speaker 6 Yeah.
Speaker 12 So I don't know how to get rid of that.
Speaker 6 Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 7 There's sometimes, there was,
Speaker 7 there was one time where, to your point, right? And I was new, new. I was like a month, I had only lived here a month.
Speaker 21 Yeah, they still smelled the Creole on you.
Speaker 6 Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 7 Because then I saw this guy on the train, and it was like, it was one of those six train stops where the gap is like slightly higher on the train than it is on the platform.
Speaker 7 And I saw a guy basically back up his wheelchair when the door's open and tried to back in, and he couldn't quite get it. And so I walked up and went ahead and like grabbed the back of it.
Speaker 7 And I was like, hey, do you need some help? And then I started pulling him in. And this dude,
Speaker 7 I pull him the rest of the way in. And he goes, yo, get up off my chair, man.
Speaker 6 And he stands up.
Speaker 7 And I was like, My bad.
Speaker 7 I didn't know I was ruining something.
Speaker 6 He said, You're messing up my hustle, man.
Speaker 21
That's the most intimate thing you can do: is like help back help someone back up in a wheelchair. Now, I'm still southern.
The special is about being southern. I think it's what makes me funny.
Speaker 21 I think sometimes the juxtaposition of being southern and sweet and slow in a fast-paced city, it creates some comedy.
Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7 Not just so.
Speaker 7 And so you have a BFA and an MFA.
Speaker 21 Yeah, you can say I'm in debt.
Speaker 6 You don't have to be.
Speaker 6 I got a BA,
Speaker 6 BFA,
Speaker 21 and the MFA. I was in school forever.
Speaker 7 And you went to school at Old Miss and Alabama.
Speaker 21 Yeah, because I love being scared.
Speaker 7 And they're known as like NCAA schools.
Speaker 9 Yeah.
Speaker 7 Is there theater program as strong as they're like football?
Speaker 21 Here's the thing.
Speaker 10 No, but
Speaker 21 the theater programs were very strong.
Speaker 21 But whenever I was at both of those big SEC schools, there were times when we couldn't rehearse because they were like, hey, these kids are going to be drunk and hungover.
Speaker 21 We cannot make them rehearse with swords.
Speaker 21
We can't be doing any rapier sword fights. These kids went to the game.
So every now and then, football would supersede theater.
Speaker 21 But the football culture, especially Alabama, the culture of winning excellence and kind of excelling and executing properly, that was in the BFA, the MFA program at Alabama.
Speaker 21 At Old Miss, it was so fun because you'd have like these party kids who'd really want to go to college to have the college experience.
Speaker 21 Next day they'd be like, and now a scene from streetcar named Desire.
Speaker 6 Yeah.
Speaker 7 And so did you see much of that crossover? Like is that how you, because to me, I also studied theater and I didn't go as far as you. Like I didn't, I stopped and
Speaker 28
we did it. You're straight.
Come on.
Speaker 6 I'm just trying to give you a copy.
Speaker 6 I know what you mean.
Speaker 7 I know what you mean. No, it's just, I think that when you have all these sort of like intersections happening at one time, it just gives you a lot of perspective on what people are like.
Speaker 7
And I think I see a lot of that in your stand-up. I think I see a lot of the experiences that you've had.
And
Speaker 7 see you bring more of your personality to every situation than just sort of like taking life for face value and stuff.
Speaker 21
I was lucky. I had to do that not only for myself but also for my students.
So when I got my MFA I was a graduate teaching assistant at the University of Alabama.
Speaker 21 So I had to introduce these 18 year olds, 19 year olds, 20 year olds to theater and I had to make it interesting enough that they would sit through a 10 a.m.
Speaker 21 class when they knew we had a big SEC game the next day. They were ready to start partying.
Speaker 9 I had to be like, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 8 Y'all heard about Ipson?
Speaker 8 Y'all know about a doll's house?
Speaker 6 This is crazy.
Speaker 21 Nora and Torvald, they getting into it.
Speaker 9 Yeah.
Speaker 7 And so in the time that you've been doing... Nerd.
Speaker 21 That was one realism nerd that was like, dolls house?
Speaker 7 I wasn't going to say anything.
Speaker 6 I mean, you called it.
Speaker 7 So in the time that both of us have been doing stand-up, I feel like the landscape has changed for how to get your jokes out or how you present to people and everything. And there's a lot of this
Speaker 7 old school approach that everything happens in the club. Everyone that wants to discover good comedy should buy a ticket, go to a comedy show live in person, everything.
Speaker 7 But we see so many millions of people digesting comedy through their phone, their laptop, the TV, whatever. And I guess,
Speaker 7 how are you feeling about the state of that change?
Speaker 21 I think that change is this kind of really cool new pattern of people will discover you on the phone and then come to the club or people see you in the club and they go back and follow you on the phone.
Speaker 21 I think it's a cycle that actually helps itself. The clips are nothing but like 15 to 30 second commercials for us as comedians as we like peddle our wares.
Speaker 21
I would love, I would love whenever people come to me after a show and they go, hey, I don't usually go to comedy clubs. They go, I don't like comedy.
I don't like stand-up, but I liked your clips.
Speaker 21 So I started going to the club and I got to see all these other comics whose work I also enjoy.
Speaker 21 Because at the end of the day, what I want is people to enjoy, not just me, but also enjoy you, also enjoy other comedians who I think are very funny. I want people to go out and be in community.
Speaker 21
It's live theater, essentially. It's a live performance, and I think it's a really cool thing when people go, Okay, this is, I'm gonna look at this thing on this phone.
We're all locked in the house.
Speaker 21 I'm gonna look at this thing on the phone, and it's gonna get me out of the house and go make me be in community with other people. So I'm happy.
Speaker 7 Have you found yourself in any way
Speaker 7 attached to those outcomes though? Like, I feel like so many comics,
Speaker 7 when you see their set,
Speaker 7
you see them thinking about the clip more than the people that are in front of them. And I feel like every time I watch you, I feel like you're really present and everything.
And so I...
Speaker 7 Because I know you and because I watch a lot of comics, I don't usually pay much attention to like social media footprint as much as like what they're doing on stage.
Speaker 7 And so that's why I say that because I feel like every time I've seen you, you're like, you're here with us, you know?
Speaker 21 Well, I want to be honest, and I think one thing that my theater background has taught me is that people love stand-up and people love crowd work and people love being in and of the moment because theater and comedy, they're ephemeral.
Speaker 21
They're fleeting. It happens this way with this audience, with this host, with me at this moment, with this camera.
It all happens just once.
Speaker 21
And when you digitize it, when you put it up, it's still a little different because it's not in and of the moment. I think I try to stay in the moment.
I also love my jokes so much.
Speaker 21
I love sharing them. I used to be so, I used to be so like precious with the material.
You know, everyone was like this before the pandemic.
Speaker 9 They go, no, it's mine. You can't.
Speaker 21 I'm saving this joke about penises.
Speaker 6 No, yeah. By the way, speaking of penises, Nick Offerman.
Speaker 21 No,
Speaker 21
let me get it out. Nick Offerman likes twinks.
That's going to be on gay Twitter now. I want everyone to know.
Speaker 11 But like,
Speaker 21
we used to like protect and hoard our stuff. Now I feel so happy when people go, oh, I love this joke.
Oh, I love this bit.
Speaker 21
And because we kind of produce a lot of material now, and because we gestate, and because the world is crazy enough, we keep having more stuff to... make jokes about.
I feel happy sharing my stuff.
Speaker 21 I'm very happy that people see a clip and then they come see me, but I'm even happier if they watch the special.
Speaker 6 Yeah.
Speaker 7 You've already referenced it, but I know that sometimes comics are so precious about everything that goes in the special, everything that gets cut. and everything.
Speaker 7 Was there anything, was there any like story or like any idea that didn't make it in that now that it's out you wish you would have put in?
Speaker 21 Okay, so I had one of my favorite jokes that I didn't put in the special simply because I like true, it just like escaped my mind because I was working with so many other things.
Speaker 21 I have this wonderful joke where I kind of talk about my core personality where I say I'm a black queer man, also known as a gospel choir director. And that didn't,
Speaker 21 right? Let the church say,
Speaker 21
that didn't make it to this. So now I'm happy when I get to do it live for people.
But that's a joke I go, oh, okay, I forgot that one. But even right now, I filmed the special in April.
Speaker 21 And so now I have a new hour that I'm doing that's completely different from the special because I want people to feel like they get their money's worth.
Speaker 21 I don't, you know, I want people to go, oh my gosh, Jay is really spoiling this. Because at the end of the day, as a comedian, I feel this is an industry of service and patronage.
Speaker 21 Like I want to be funny enough that I justify the babysitting cost, the Uber cost, the ticket, the two drinks, the meal, the merch, the picture. Like
Speaker 21 that's what I want to do as a comedian.
Speaker 6 So
Speaker 21 whenever I go, oh, I didn't get to do that joke, my creative kind of like North Star is I'll write another one so yeah yeah yeah i'm with you yeah i know you are you produced oh my god you make more stuff than all of us that's very common
Speaker 7 no but i what i also love uh about the special is that knowing you from starting and just uh it just feels like a really yeah i know i know it's just us like i know y'all like don't know that we know y'all gotta be here but this is like one of the reasons i'm i'm so excited for you is that i watched you when we were all doing like mics during during the pandemic which actually felt like mental illness
Speaker 21 like y'all don't even know we were doing comedy outside every now and then in the park you know if you do comedy in the park if you don't have a microphone you are just a man screaming in the park yeah yeah
Speaker 12 hundred percent
Speaker 6 yeah for a little bit a hundred percent
Speaker 7 because I remember doing like they were like oh we're gonna do a show and I was like where it's we're all gonna die then and they were like no it's gonna be fine we're gonna do it in the park.
Speaker 7 And then I get to the park because I came because I was like, I'm about to lose my mind anyway. Yeah.
Speaker 7 And then I get to the park and they're like, hey, we actually can't use the PA system because it would be everybody talking to the same mic and the droplets. And so we would all kill each other.
Speaker 7 And so I was like, what do you want me to do? And they were like, project.
Speaker 21
And they use that theater training. They said, Josh, diaphragm.
That's what they said.
Speaker 21 And then at one point we had the little condoms for the mics.
Speaker 21 The little cupcake prophylactics prophylactics on the mics.
Speaker 7 Y'all don't understand. I think these things, yeah, this is like not a joke at all.
Speaker 12 Like they did not work.
Speaker 7 Like the idea that this piece of cloth, they were going to wrap over the mic and we would be safe. It's like, you mean a mask for the mic that we're all spitting on?
Speaker 21 And there were a couple guys who were like, I brought my own mic.
Speaker 6 I was like, ooh, you nasty.
Speaker 21 You on everybody's show.
Speaker 6 I know.
Speaker 6 You a comedy hoe.
Speaker 7 And so then to see to see you from there to getting past at the seller, seeing you at the seller, seeing you have your special come out is very, very beautiful.
Speaker 6
That means a lot, Josh. Thank you.
No, it isn't beautiful. It's also.
Speaker 8 I also have to say this.
Speaker 21 I watched your tonight show set. I watched your comedy Central
Speaker 21 New Negro set.
Speaker 21 We've always been like, comedy peers, but I also love the work you create. And also just navigating the space because like right now in comedy, sometimes as a young or comic,
Speaker 21 you get to say something, and older comics are like, You can't do it that way. And then you go, Well, why not? And they go, We've always done it this way.
Speaker 21 And so, like, to see you kind of forge your own path and to see other comics kind of like break these trends and kind of like spread out their material, however they do it, that's inspiring.
Speaker 21
Cause you go, Oh, there isn't just one way to do this, and that makes me very happy. And look at us now.
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 So,
Speaker 7 before you go. Okay.
Speaker 6 You're kicking me out, y'all.
Speaker 7
No, no, no. It's I kick it out.
I wish we could talk forever, but
Speaker 7 they can't stay forever.
Speaker 6 I know, I didn't.
Speaker 7 And we don't want them to leave one at a time.
Speaker 7 So I know that this like almost breaks host to comic like unspoken rule because it is very difficult to just recite a joke out of nowhere.
Speaker 7 And it's like I've done morning news where they've been like, well, do one of your jokes now. And you're like, ah,
Speaker 12 I didn't think that far.
Speaker 7 But I'm curious because I'm curious about you. What is your favorite joke of all time?
Speaker 21
So I have two. I have one that's mine and one that's Wanda Sykes.
So the Wanda Sykes joke, Wanda Sykes, the special I'm going to be me, she had a joke about how she had to come out as a lesbian.
Speaker 21 And she had kind of extrapolated. She said, what would it be like if I had to come out as black? And she came out as black and her mom was like, anything but black, Lord.
Speaker 11 Please, give a a cancer, Jesus, anyone.
Speaker 21 And so that's my favorite.
Speaker 21 That's probably my favorite Wanda Sykes joke. My favorite joke of mine, and that's just because it's a fun little tip of the hat and the calling card, is that I say, I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 21
I'm not even gay. I just want to be marketable.
I'm not gay.
Speaker 21
No, I'm not, but I'm also not straight. I'm queer as in everybody's hot.
Not gay as in Remind the teacher we have homework
Speaker 7 so that that's probably my favorite that is my favorite now too Jay Jordan everybody thank you
Speaker 6 no absolutely
Speaker 6 this is crazy what's yes man exclusive with our movie Jay Jordan we're gonna take a quick bake but we'll be right back afterwards
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