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Speaker 2 let's get right at it all with Election Day coverage with Indecision 2025.

Speaker 2 Let's start in California, where Prop 50 will attempt to rig the voting maps to squeeze out some extra seats for Democrats, which is a response to Texas rigging its voter map for Republicans.

Speaker 2 And I know this looks like a race to the bottom that will destroy the foundations of democracy in the United States.

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Speaker 2 Because there's also some closely watched governors' races in New Jersey and Virginia.

Speaker 2 These races gathering a lot of interest around the country, especially from one very specific low-information voter.

Speaker 2 Well, the president tonight also warned New Jerseyans and Virginians not to vote Democratic, saying, quote, you will rue the day that you voted to destroy your life.

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Speaker 2 While New Jersey and Virginia decide on who will be ruined who, most of the country today is focused on a mayoral race in a quaint little seaside town called New York City.

Speaker 2 I see you've heard of it.

Speaker 2 The Democratic frontrunner's Oran Moamdani was campaigning this weekend and

Speaker 2 based on his itinerary, see if you can guess how confident he is.

Speaker 2 God damn!

Speaker 2 Is he running a campaign or a bachelor party?

Speaker 2 Be careful, Zoran. You party this hard, you're gonna catch feelings for capitalism.

Speaker 2 Free school lunches sound nice until you get used to that bottle service life.

Speaker 2 But clearly, Zoran has been riding high the last few days of the campaign, clubbing all weekend, swinging by a Knicks game, and he even appeared on the Kiss Cam with Karl Marx. So very nice.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, Zoran's Republican opponent is Curtis Sliwa, a tough on crime, beret-wearing vigilante leader who has been shot in what was reportedly a mob hit.

Speaker 2 What was his final pitch to voters? I assume it was something like, death penalty for all the bad guys.

Speaker 7 Animals are viewed as property in New York State,

Speaker 7 and we're going to turn that around.

Speaker 7 Wow.

Speaker 2 You thought Mom Dottie was radical.

Speaker 2 This guy's out here like, humans are going to be the pets from now on.

Speaker 2 Of course, no one is really giving Sliwa a chance. The only man with a chance of perhaps beating Mom Dani is Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 2 Former New York governor and mayoral candidates most likely to tell the Statue of Liberty she has a hell of ass.

Speaker 2 After having lost the primary to Mom Dani, he is now running as an independent. And Mom Dani is out there in the clubs.
I assume Cuomo's final campaign pitch is de-serious and the policy-driven.

Speaker 9 A little trivia today because a lot of questions have been asked. This is a 1996 Ford Broncer.
Yes, it is an oldie, but it is a goodie. We're going to win.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 9 Because of this Ford Broncer.

Speaker 2 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 A Ford Bronco.

Speaker 2 A white mid-90s Ford

Speaker 2 Bronco.

Speaker 2 Isn't that OJ's car?

Speaker 2 This was his final pitch to voters. Hey guys, check it out.
I own the only vehicle on the planet associated with murder.

Speaker 2 And if you're an OJ head, you know his famous car chase happened in 1994.

Speaker 2 Which means Cuomo went car shopping two years later

Speaker 2 and thought, yeah, this will help me pick up the chicks.

Speaker 2 You know what? Don't worry. Andrew Cuomo isn't that oblivious.
He's very aware that this car brings up bad memories of loose juice.

Speaker 9 Also been ridiculed quite a bit. People saying, oh, that's the OJ Bronckman.

Speaker 9 Actually, it's not the OJ Bronck.

Speaker 9 And if you look closely, you will see the black and gold stripe on the side. That clearly distinguishes it from the OJ Bronx.
Yeah, I see that.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay. Andrew, Andrew, can you please not touch it like that?

Speaker 2 I mean...

Speaker 2 Come on, come on.

Speaker 2 I mean, why don't you lick your finger? This is my truck's clitoris right here. Just right here.

Speaker 2 Believe me, believe me, you can show off your cool car without doing one in the pink, two in the stink.

Speaker 2 Now, as surprising as it may seem, Mom Dani's critics are not super confident in Andrew Cuomo's final message of watch me flick the bean on my murder car.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's a tough bitch, tough bitch.

Speaker 2 So, some Republican officials have stepped in with a last-ditch Hail Mary message. Hey, doesn't this guy look like 9-11? He is a jihadist.

Speaker 11 This is someone who went and did a photo op with an unindicted co-conspirator

Speaker 11 of the World Trade Center bombing.

Speaker 12 And it's really unthinkable that a little over 20 years since 9-11, you could have a pro-Hamas, jihadist, full-blown communist who wants to defund the police as mayor of the greatest city in the world.

Speaker 5 Last night, Representative Andy Ogles posted the video of the 9-11 attacks with the caption: Wake up, New York.

Speaker 2 Oh, how dare you, sir? Who?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 yes! Zoran Movdani obviously did not do 9-11. We all know Bush did 9-11.

Speaker 2 Seriously, this cynical attempt to inject Islamophobia into this race is disgusting.

Speaker 2 Disagree with Movdani's politics all you want, but his culture and faith is as much a part of New York as anyone else's. And

Speaker 2 there is nothing you can show me that will make me doubt for even one second that Mom Donnie does not belong in this great city.

Speaker 5 Zoran, Mom Donnie, unable to name Billy Joel's iconic song, New York State of Mind.

Speaker 2 Some folks

Speaker 2 can get away.

Speaker 13 As a politician, it's important to be honest.

Speaker 13 Plays the piano

Speaker 13 from Long Island. I'm afraid to.

Speaker 2 you commie son of a bitch.

Speaker 2 Get the hell out of New York and never come back again

Speaker 2 for more coverage on the final day of the New York City mayoral race. We go to Cuomo campaign headquarters with our very own Ronnie Chang.
Ronnie!

Speaker 2 Ronnie!

Speaker 2 Tell me.

Speaker 2 Ronnie, how's Cuomo spending the last few hours?

Speaker 5 Well, definitely not touching women, if that was what you're going to ask.

Speaker 2 No, I wasn't.

Speaker 5 Okay, good, because he's not.

Speaker 5 People keep bringing up Cuomo's past, but the Cuomo campaign is asking, what about Zoran's problems? He's a Ugandan and an Indian and a Muslim and a socialist. That's too many things.

Speaker 2 Yeah, aren't you a Chinese, Malaysian, American by way of Australia?

Speaker 5 Yeah, and I'm shady as hell.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 5 why do you think I had to move so much?

Speaker 5 You shouldn't vote for me either. We're not.

Speaker 2 We're talking about Cuomo.

Speaker 5 Right. Cuomo is confident he's gonna win because he spent a day canvassing the city in his lucky Ford Bronco.

Speaker 5 And to give him even more luck, he wore this

Speaker 5 lucky sweater.

Speaker 2 I'm Ronnie. I'm I'm sorry.
Is that

Speaker 2 a Bill Cosby sweater?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 5 No, no, it's not a Bill Cosby sweater, okay? It's got a totally different pattern

Speaker 2 here, okay? You just.

Speaker 5 You just feel it

Speaker 2 right

Speaker 2 here.

Speaker 2 It doesn't

Speaker 2 look

Speaker 2 Cosby sweaters don't have this kind of stitching, okay?

Speaker 5 This brings Andrew Cuomo good luck when he talks to voters or serves women coffee.

Speaker 2 Ronnie, Ronnie! Ronnie! Stop!

Speaker 2 Why are you touching the sweater like that?

Speaker 5 The campaign informed me that this is a very normal way to touch sweaters. Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. It just.

Speaker 2 It seemed a little odd to me that it looked so similar to Cosby's.

Speaker 5 No, you have 13 sexual harassment cases.

Speaker 2 I didn't say anything about the cases, man. Uh-oh, okay.
Sorry.

Speaker 5 Yeah, everyone's just on edge over here.

Speaker 5 The guy can't have a lucky car or sweater or sit next to this, his lucky ficus plant.

Speaker 5 And let me stop you right now, okay? No, it's not the same ficus plant that Javi Weinstein jerked off into, okay?

Speaker 5 This plant grew from the seedlings of that plant.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I didn't know ficus plants could bring good luck.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they don't unless you jerk off into them.

Speaker 7 Anyway,

Speaker 5 Andrew Cuomo would like you to stop connecting these innocent lucky charms to gross sex scandals and instead connect Zolron to Marxist jihadist extremism.

Speaker 5 Okay, if he gets elected, he could do Communist 9-11.

Speaker 2 What is Communist 9-11?

Speaker 5 Well, that's where every building in New York City gets hit a little bit equally.

Speaker 2 Okay, Ronnie.

Speaker 2 Ronnie.

Speaker 2 Ronnie.

Speaker 2 Ronnie, that is pathetic.

Speaker 2 Does Cuomo really think that Islamophobic fear-mongering is going to play in New York City?

Speaker 5 Yes. In fact, Cuomo is going to slide right into the mayor's mansion thanks to his lucky baby oil.

Speaker 5 And no, okay, it doesn't belong to who you think it does.

Speaker 5 This is Diddy's baby oil.

Speaker 2 That's who I thought it was.

Speaker 5 Oh, okay. Well then you then you nailed it.

Speaker 2 Roddy Chang, everybody.

Speaker 2 When we come back, we found out what New Yorkers think about the election. Don't go away.

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Speaker 2 New York isn't just some town on the Hudson River.

Speaker 2 It's an international city that draws visitors from around the world, eager to visit cultural institutions like the Times Square M ⁇ M Store, the Times Square Red Lobster, and of course, the Statue of Liberty, souvenir shelf in Times Square.

Speaker 2 That's why as New Yorkers pick their next mayor, a lot of non-New Yorkers are watching closely.

Speaker 10 Don't forget about the election in New York City. Yes, we're a local station in Kansas City.
Why does New York matter? Well, it's the biggest city in the country, right? New York is New York.

Speaker 5 This is what an American political earthquake looks like.

Speaker 16 Zoran Mamdani and his two rivals, Independent Andrew Kumo and Republican Curtis Silva.

Speaker 2 How did you pronounce Zoran Mamdani correctly?

Speaker 2 But then stumble with Silva and Kumo.

Speaker 2 Iowa, you are a real mystery.

Speaker 2 But with the rest of America so interested in what's happening with our mayoral race, we set our own Grace Kulin Schmidt to ask them to mind their own business.

Speaker 17 A ton of non-New Yorkers have weighed in on the New York City mayoral election. So we're in Times Square for real-time exit polling data of who non-New Yorkers would vote for if they could.

Speaker 10 I am from LA.

Speaker 5 Go dodgers.

Speaker 17 Okay, gotcha. Do you care about this New York City mayoral election?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 17 Even though you're from Los Angeles? Yes. So you're from St.
Louis?

Speaker 2 Yep, St.

Speaker 15 Louis, Missouri. Woo!

Speaker 2 Go Blues! Go Blues!

Speaker 17 What's Blues? I'm wondering, where are you from?

Speaker 4 Savannah, Georgia.

Speaker 17 Do you think that you care about this race because you're jealous you don't live here?

Speaker 2 Honestly, a little bit.

Speaker 17 So you're super jazzed about this election. What's stopping you from becoming a resident of New York and voting?

Speaker 4 Well, you know what? I have been a resident of New York.

Speaker 17 I love it. I love the Tribeca.
I love the Times Square. I love all of it.

Speaker 17 What's not to love about Pittsburgh? What's not? So where are you from?

Speaker 2 I'm from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 17 Who do you want to be mayor of New York and why do you give a shit since you are from Pittsburgh? Um, I don't know how much of a shit I give. Just curious, who is the mayor of your city?

Speaker 2 Who is the mayor? Oh, you know what? I don't care.

Speaker 2 I don't even know who's the mayor anymore.

Speaker 17 Do you hope that the new New York City mayor brings down the cost of you getting a photo with that monkey over there?

Speaker 17 Yeah, inflation is kind of crazy right now.

Speaker 6 I mean, I know affordability is a big issue here in new york city

Speaker 10 we're just trying to not spend our whole paychecks on rent that would be nice yeah that would be nice i mean what do you pay i pay a thousand fifty a month

Speaker 17 what the

Speaker 17 and what town is that again well that's in williston vermont in what williston vertical

Speaker 17 just came out of the ripley's believe it or not museum can you believe this election?

Speaker 2 I can't.

Speaker 2 I can't.

Speaker 17 As a person who may not stray more than 10 blocks from Times Square, what are the issues that are affecting you the most in New York City?

Speaker 16 In Times Square specifically,

Speaker 2 the lack of pizza places, we had a lot of time finding good pizza places where we did not have to wait in line.

Speaker 17 Which candidate could address the lack of pizza in Times Square? And if you say quoma, you are racist. Okay.

Speaker 2 Are you voting today?

Speaker 2 I would if I could but I'm not from here.

Speaker 10 And who would you vote for today?

Speaker 15 Um well I see stuff on TikTok about New York and yeah that's my favorite news source.

Speaker 15 I gotta say there's a guy I think his name's Mom Dani.

Speaker 2 Yep. Pretty cool.

Speaker 17 So who do you want to be mayor of New York?

Speaker 2 Madami.

Speaker 4 Did I say his name?

Speaker 2 Mom Dani.

Speaker 17 Mom Danny. Mom Danny.
Mom Dani.

Speaker 7 Mom Danny.

Speaker 18 That's an endorsement.

Speaker 2 Mom Danny. There you go.

Speaker 17 Are you paying attention to the New York City mayoral election that's happening right now? Not really. Not really at all.

Speaker 4 Do you know like anyone who's even in the running?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 17 No clue. Not really.
So you don't care about who wins the mayoral election of New York?

Speaker 2 It's New York City.

Speaker 17 It's New York City. Look at all of our electronic billboards.

Speaker 17 Our pride and joy. Thank you.

Speaker 2 I love it. It's nice.
Thank you.

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Speaker 19 My guest tonight is the former Prime Minister of Finland.

Speaker 2 Her new book is called Hope in Action, a memoir about the courage to lead. Please welcome Sana Morin.

Speaker 2 You bought your own book. You know.
You don't trust the American fake media.

Speaker 4 You know, this copy is for you because I signed it. You signed it? So we can swap.

Speaker 2 We can swap it. Do you want this? I signed it as well.
It was strange. Thank you so much.
But I felt, yes. Did you write something nice in it? Well, can I out you in this?

Speaker 2 Wait, so you didn't write anything? You just wrote to Jordan.

Speaker 4 I can write something here.

Speaker 2 I will sell this one and write something more personal in that one. That is perfect.

Speaker 2 That is perfect. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 4 Well, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 Yes. First of all, I read this book.

Speaker 4 In New York, the best city in the world.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yeah.
Well, I mean,

Speaker 2 I read this book and I get jealous of Finland. It seems like a very happy place.
It's voted year in and year out the happiest place on the globe. Like, why is that? Do you guys not have social media?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 4 we do,

Speaker 4 unfortunately.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 4 But Finland is the happiest country in the world. But if you ask the people, they will answer you, we aren't happy at all.
No. No, we are not cheerful.
We aren't happy.

Speaker 4 Did you see the clip or the meme? during COVID when people, we as a government, me as a prime minister,

Speaker 4 said said to people that they have to stay two meters apart. And they were like, do we have to really get closer, two meters to other people?

Speaker 4 Like, we are not cheerful.

Speaker 4 We don't like people.

Speaker 2 See, this is the narrative we need to get out, that people are miserable everywhere.

Speaker 2 We think Finland has got it all figured out, but in the end, you guys are grumpy and you didn't like the masks and have to stay that far apart, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but we like coffee. You do like coffee?

Speaker 4 We drink the most coffee in the world.

Speaker 2 Is that right?

Speaker 4 That is correct.

Speaker 2 Why is that? How do you connect that to the Finnish personality?

Speaker 4 Well, if you visit Finland right now in November, you will understand the reason because it's so cold, it's so rainy, it's so horrible weather. We love coffee and we hate people.

Speaker 2 Come visit! Come visit, Finland! Come visit! It's miserably cold and we're gonna bitch about it, but we have coffee and where else could you get this on that planet?

Speaker 2 Exactly, exactly. It's sort of amazing.
I mean, you were the youngest prime minister of Finland at 34.

Speaker 2 And you talk about this in the book. And you also talk about how Finland is very different than places like America.
But you talk a bit about the Nordic welfare state.

Speaker 2 Tell me a bit about that. And also, if that, like, I think when we hear that somebody is 34 and in a position of power in America, our minds explode.

Speaker 2 We don't even let you consider being president of the United States at 34.

Speaker 2 Like, is there a connection to sort of the welfare system in a place like Finland and and your ability to get into politics so early?

Speaker 4 Well, I think the most amazing thing, and one thing that I'm really proud of in Finland, is our schooling system that allows everybody to become anything, even though your backgrounds might be difficult, like mine is personally as well.

Speaker 4 I come from a poor, unprivileged family, but we have an amazing daycare system, amazing schooling system that gives people the equal opportunities. And I think this is amazing.

Speaker 2 It doesn't hurt.

Speaker 4 It doesn't hurt.

Speaker 2 You mentioned in the book you have essentially a baby basket that is given to children. A baby box.
A baby box. A baby box.
What is a baby box?

Speaker 4 It contains everything that new family needs. Clothing, different kind of things that the baby needs.

Speaker 2 A sense of purpose for the dad who suddenly feels irrelevant.

Speaker 2 Stick that in there.

Speaker 4 And actually, you can also use the baby box itself as a bassinet for the baby. Really?

Speaker 2 Yeah. You can do that with an Amazon box too.
It

Speaker 2 doesn't make you dad of the year, but

Speaker 2 that's sort of symbolic of what the nation does.

Speaker 2 I know we're talking a lot about the the mayoral race and mom Donnie has mentioned bringing something like that to New York City that you give parents right off the bat like baby baskets I believe.

Speaker 4 We are very happy to help

Speaker 4 with the baby box.

Speaker 2 Good, thank you.

Speaker 2 Help us in taking care of kids and that coffee. I think that can help.

Speaker 4 Coffee, baby box, horrible weather,

Speaker 2 distance to people i think you need it i think i need it in new york i could use a little more distance from people in new york i definitely could it's curious you know talking about the the the finnish electoral system but also the the finnish government you have eight to nine political parties it's a parliamentary system and as i'm reading this i'm so jealous of what that system looks like because

Speaker 2 it instills

Speaker 2 Correct me if I'm off base here, but like a lack of identity based on one political party.

Speaker 2 The ability to compromise and shift with another party seems much more necessary and available to a system that has so many options.

Speaker 2 And you have to compromise with other people, otherwise, nothing gets done. Yeah, how do we get that here?

Speaker 4 I don't know how you

Speaker 4 get that here, but I led a government of five parties, and all parties were led by women during my period of the government.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 4 four of us leaders were under 40 years old, so that also tells something about Finland.

Speaker 4 But I truly appreciate our parliamentary system and also the fact that we always have coalition governments, because then you have to compromise and you have to find consensus.

Speaker 4 And there is something beautiful about that kind of way of thinking, that you don't go only with your own ideas, but you have to listen, you have to understand, you have to understand different values and then you can find compromises and a middle ground.

Speaker 4 And I think that is is something that we lack today in our democracies, especially with social media ever-ending, polarizing stories and very negative news cycles. So I

Speaker 4 truly appreciate a space where we can also disagree and then find compromises together. I think that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 agree.

Speaker 2 You mentioned

Speaker 2 other female leaders.

Speaker 2 You talked to other world leaders, female world leaders, and you mentioned in the book a sense of loneliness, that it is a unique position, especially for a woman in that position.

Speaker 2 Like, how did you find that as somebody who is trailblazing there? And every narrative that we hear about what's happening over there focuses on your gender and your youth.

Speaker 2 How did you find navigating that?

Speaker 4 Well, during my period, there was... the pandemic, war in Ukraine, our accession to NATO, fastest ever.

Speaker 4 Humble break.

Speaker 2 Humble. Of course.
We are also

Speaker 4 known from our humbleness.

Speaker 4 So there was a lot of crises, and we also had a very reformistic governmental program. So we fulfilled 98% of that.

Speaker 2 Also, very humble.

Speaker 4 So I didn't have the time to think about my age or my gender or all those things that the media was interested about. I was handling the crises and all the things on my desk.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I was very happy about that.

Speaker 4 Not the crises, but the fact that I could focus on that and not maybe the media.

Speaker 2 Well, so much of this book,

Speaker 2 the work of leadership is about negotiation and working with people across the aisle. It lives in that.
But it also talks about how you were pulled away from that with the controversies and how the...

Speaker 2 The media was, frankly, cruel and focused on your youth.

Speaker 2 There was a scandal with videos about you partying and enjoying yourself.

Speaker 2 What there are scandals? Was there a scandal?

Speaker 4 Oh my God.

Speaker 4 There's actually a whole chapter of my scandal.

Speaker 2 Oh, I read it first. That's what I was thinking.
I gotta read the scandals, and I'll get into the governing later. Thank you.

Speaker 6 And they're all hilarious.

Speaker 2 They're hilarious.

Speaker 4 At least by names.

Speaker 2 Would you have won it? I think. By names.

Speaker 2 They are hilarious names.

Speaker 4 The Blazer scandal.

Speaker 2 The Blazer scandal.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The breakfast scandal.
Yes. Phone scandal.
And the dancing scandal.

Speaker 2 And the dancing scandal. Oh, my God.
Which one do you think was most outrageous to the public?

Speaker 4 Well, maybe the dancing scandal, me dancing and singing at a friend's apartment at a free night. That is scandalous.

Speaker 2 An act of joy that's being shared by other people is something that the media wouldn't.

Speaker 4 Very scandalous from the Finnish perspective. I was going to say.
Somebody enjoying life. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 Come on. She should be miserable and drinking coffee in the corner.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yes. Staying away from people.

Speaker 2 How did you...

Speaker 2 It's fascinating because over here we don't get a lot of Finnish politics.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 4 We're focused on that. That's fine.
You might now elect a mayor that is a bit social democrat.

Speaker 2 He's a social democrat. Yes, it depends who you ask.

Speaker 2 Or he caused 9-11, according to some people, as well. But it's curious, that scandal travels, as everything does in a media cycle that focuses on the sensational.

Speaker 2 What was curious to find here was the Comrades in Arms, AOC, Hillary Clinton, like joined in to sort of mock the chaos that was around that.

Speaker 2 Did you find a silver lining in that, with that newfound attention on you and your country?

Speaker 4 I don't know, it felt, of course, personally, the whole scandal felt a bit absurd and then maybe a tiny bit out of proportion.

Speaker 4 But of course, I appreciated the solidarity that I got from women. And I think that was because women can feel those kind of double standards everywhere where they live.
I think no man,

Speaker 4 no man leader, no male leader was ever asked questions like, how can you be a leader when you have a small child at home?

Speaker 4 Or how can you be at work today when you went yesterday to a pub with your friends to watch a football game and drank two beers? How dare you be a professional today?

Speaker 4 So I think there is double standard and of course women wanted to show their support and I really appreciated that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean I've

Speaker 2 you see the videos of Donald Trump dancing. I wish that were more of a scandal.

Speaker 2 We need to shame this person out of attempting to find joy and make weird jerk-off motions. It's offensive to us all.

Speaker 2 It's curious, though, you're no longer in politics, right? Do you have an interest of getting back into politics?

Speaker 4 I have said that I would never say never.

Speaker 2 I'm not. You just said it.
You said it twice in that sentence, I think.

Speaker 2 I would never say never. You would never say never.

Speaker 4 And I'm still working on political issues. Climate change, human rights,

Speaker 4 of course equality.

Speaker 4 I want to support women and I want to commit my life to that because I've also seen how difficult it is to be a woman in those positions and we need more women in powerful positions.

Speaker 4 So I want to support women.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 also my book.

Speaker 4 It is a feministic piece as well. So I hope you read it.

Speaker 2 Maybe you'll learn something.

Speaker 2 I hope I read it too. I totally read it.

Speaker 2 You can listen to it. I can listen to it.
If you don't want to read it or if you don't have to tell me, why do you think I have no interest in this book?

Speaker 2 I will say this, what is curious to me, part of what I found inspiring about your story is

Speaker 2 a place like Finland that allows early access to the political

Speaker 2 field and world. The fact that you could be active, you were clearly somebody who was very into politics and working on a local level, but you got national quick.

Speaker 2 I know some of that has to do with the size of Finland, but also there was a space where you could have your voice heard.

Speaker 2 And to me, that is an optimistic tale in a place where we all see sorts of older folks running the rules here in America. I see access at that age being very important.

Speaker 2 And yet, hearing at the end that you're out of politics, hearing what the media did to these stories in a way that didn't make it a space that you felt necessitated you staying in that fight.

Speaker 2 I almost don't know how to read whether this is an optimistic book about getting into politics early or it's a cautionary tale about what we do to young people when they're in that field.

Speaker 4 Well, I hope it's an optimistic book. The title is Hope in Action.

Speaker 2 Oh shit, you're right.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 4 of course I want to tell people that there's always hope if there's action and I want to say to people that please join political parties, run for office, vote, participate.

Speaker 4 We need your voices and we need

Speaker 4 different people from different backgrounds to participate in our democracies, or otherwise, our democracies will die. So, we need young people, and we need women, we need people for minorities.

Speaker 2 So, we need people.

Speaker 2 We need people. We need people and we need action.
We need hope.

Speaker 4 And we need hope. And we need action.

Speaker 2 We need it all. Thank you very much for joining me.
The book, Hope in Action, is available now. Trainer Moran, we're going to take two breaks right back after this.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much.

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