Trump Puppy-Dogs Japan’s New PM and Rants About Magnets to U.S. Troops | Lucy Dacus
Grammy Award-winning musician Lucy Dacus joins Desi Lydic to discuss “Forever Is a Feeling: The Archives,” an expanded edition of her latest record, which has been called the “most romantic album of 2025.” They talk about what makes a good love song, why writing this music felt like therapy, whether fame has impacted her creative process, and how her song “Best Guest” inspired her to get ordained and perform weddings on tour at a time when the Trump administration is threatening LGBTQ+ unions.
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The government still hasn't come back from buying cigarettes. Trump tours Japan and manages not to do the accent.
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Speaker 5 Unfortunately, she said it cannot sing back up.
Speaker 5 So let's kick things off with the headlines.
Speaker 5 The government shutdown is on day day 28, which is when it sheds its uterine lining.
Speaker 5 Buckle up, it's going to be a rough ride.
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And the longer this goes on, the worse things get. Air traffic controllers are getting exhausted.
Americans are about to lose SNAP benefits. And the White House is falling apart.
Speaker 4 Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 What? Oh, that was done on purpose.
Speaker 5 This is the perfect time for President Trump to meet the moment with his famous deal-making skills and master negotiating to end this shutdown.
Speaker 5 President Donald Trump currently on his way to Asia for a high-stakes tour of the region.
Speaker 4 Okay.
Speaker 5 Government will be here when you get back, maybe?
Speaker 5 Boys trip!
Speaker 5 Let's get into it with our ongoing segment, Trump Meets World.
Speaker 3 International humiliation one after another.
Speaker 5 Donald Trump is spending the week in Asia and today he was in Japan to meet their new prime minister, Sanai Takeichi. She's Japan's first female prime minister.
Speaker 5
She's also their first Japanese female prime minister. Although I'm told in Japan that's not really a big deal.
If she were America's first Japanese female prime minister, I mean, come on, cursory.
Speaker 5 Anyway, good news. It's already looking like the beginning of a big, beautiful friendship.
Speaker 6 In her diplomatic debut as prime minister, Sanai Takeichi heaped praise on President Trump and vowed to make new investments in the U.S.
Speaker 5 Very strong handshake. So if you see any weird bruises on my hand, that's why.
Speaker 5 Although it's not surprising when a woman has a strong handshake, we build up our strength by clutching our keys between our fingers at night like a patriarchy Edward Scissor hands.
Speaker 5 Now the purpose of Trump's visit was to discuss critical trade agreements and reaffirm our alliances. But first, Donnie gets presents.
Speaker 7 Takaichi, even at this bilateral meeting, we saw her gift Trump a golf club. She also gifted him a golden golf ball.
Speaker 7 Wow.
Speaker 5
Okay, she is a great gift giver. A golf ball covered in gold? That is a combination of two of Trump's favorite things.
I mean, how could he even top that?
Speaker 5 Maybe in Epstein Island made of Lee Greenwoods?
Speaker 5 And after the gift giving, it was time for some ceremony. So the Prime Minister showed off her new friend Trump to a gathering of uniformed soldiers.
Speaker 5 We see here in this solemn moment of respect, two allies totally in sync. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 5
Mr. President, where are you going? Nope, that's in the kitchen.
Whoops. Nope.
Over here.
Speaker 5 Mr. Trump, back over here.
Speaker 4 Hold on.
Speaker 5 Oopsie-daisy.
Speaker 5 But aside from that one slip-up, President Trump did a great job of letting the Prime Minister walk him from one side of the room to the other.
Speaker 5 It kind of makes me wonder if Donald Trump could have a real future as a show dog.
Speaker 9 Introducing one of the favorites of tonight's show, the old American beaver hound.
Speaker 10 He is in the care of expert handler Sanai Takeichi.
Speaker 9 Lively, aggressive, and incredibly horny, the beaver hound is especially popular among rural white families.
Speaker 10 That's right, and judges tonight will be looking for the hallmarks of a good beaver hound: strong veneers, girthy cankles.
Speaker 9 Whoops, it looks like he's wandered away from his handler. That's gonna cost him some points.
Speaker 8 Okay, he looks like he's back on track now.
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Excellent form on that turn. The beaver hound's golden mane is glistening.
Indeed, and now one final trick: a leap onto the platform. And
Speaker 8 nailed it.
Speaker 9 What a performance by the old American Beaverhound.
Speaker 5 Oh, who's a good president?
Speaker 4 Not you, not you.
Speaker 5 Of course, it wouldn't be a Trump trip overseas without a visit to the U.S. troops who are stationed in every country in the world for reasons that are never quite clear.
Speaker 5 And after the Prime Minister made Trump feel so comfortable, he thought it was only fair for him to return the favor by bringing her along to make her feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 But the cherished alliance between the United States and Japan is one of the most remarkable relationships in the entire world. Really, there's never been anything like it.
Speaker 3 Born out of the ashes of a terrible war, our bond has grown over eight decades.
Speaker 3 God.
Speaker 4 Look at her face.
Speaker 5 We all know that face. That is the look of a woman who's going to be talking about this ashes of war thing the second they get to the car.
Speaker 5 I'm not going to embarrass you in front of your friends, but we will talk about this later.
Speaker 5 But I'm glad the president is having such a fun time while the government's shut down. Speaking of which, let's just check in to see how the negotiations are going.
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People keep commenting to me, you look so tired on TV. I am so tired because we're not sleeping a lot.
We're working overtime.
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Ooh, yikes. Yeah.
It's okay, though. In my experience, a tire Johnson should be back up and ready to go in like 30 minutes.
Speaker 5 20 if he's been eating oysters.
Speaker 5 And look, Mike, I know shutdown negotiations are tough, but President Trump is in Japan working just as hard.
Speaker 5 Now remember, troops, don't be gay.
Speaker 5 Now, I don't want this to imply that this speech was entirely jerk-off dancing. Trump did have some important updates for the troops stationed in Japan.
Speaker 3
I'm going to sign an executive order. When we build aircraft carriers, it's steam for the catapults and it's hydraulic for the elevators.
You know, the new thing is magnets.
Speaker 3 So instead of using hydraulic, you can be hit by lightning and it's fine.
Speaker 3 You take a little glass of water and you drop it on magnets. I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 What?
Speaker 3 What the f are you talking about?
Speaker 5 You don't know what's gonna happen if you get water on a magnet?
Speaker 5 The magnet gets wet. That's it.
Speaker 5 It's a magnet, okay, not a gremlin. Here, you know what? Let me show you.
Speaker 5 Water.
Speaker 4 Magnet.
Speaker 5 Magnet in water.
Speaker 4 See?
Speaker 5 Nothing happens. happens.
Speaker 5 Damn it. Well, when he's right, he's right.
Speaker 5 Now, Trump obviously didn't spend the whole time talking about magnets. He also asked the troops how they felt about magnets.
Speaker 3 Which is better? Hydraulic
Speaker 3 or magnets?
Speaker 4 What the hell is wrong with these two?
Speaker 5 Well that's a scientific poll if I've ever seen one.
Speaker 5 Which option do you like? The one that I, your boss, prefer or the one that I have an unhinged vendetta against?
Speaker 5 I am so curious how military recruitment is going to work in this country. Question one, do you promise to serve this nation and protect the Constitution? Question two, do you f with magnets?
Speaker 5 By the way, Trump has been baffled by magnets for quite some time.
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Now, all I know about magnets is this: give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets. That's the end of the magnets.
Instead of using hydraulic, they used magnets.
Speaker 3 And nobody needed magnets until they convinced everybody 20 years ago, let's all do magnets. But it should have never gotten that way because we should have been doing the, they call it magnets.
Speaker 5 Well, I guess this is what happens when your parents don't want to put any of your pictures on the fridge.
Speaker 5 Oh.
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Oh, honey. Oh, honey.
Oh, we'd love to, but all the magnets got wet.
Speaker 5 No, that's how they work.
Speaker 5 That's how they work.
Speaker 5 Anyway, it was your classic Trump speech. Weird, nonsensical ranting, a weird nonsensical survey, but there was one moment I didn't quite expect.
Speaker 3 I never forget that our ultimate strength does not come from equipment, comes from you people, incredible people, good-looking people, too many good-looking people. I don't like good-looking people.
Speaker 3 I never liked good-looking people, I'll be honest with you. I've never admitted that before.
Speaker 3 What?
Speaker 4 You don't like good-looking people?
Speaker 5 That's the last category of people we thought you liked.
Speaker 5 We already know that you don't like fat people, ugly people, women people, Democrat people, prosecutors. Why not good-looking people?
Speaker 5
Because, you know, they're attractive and you're attracted to them. So the two of you are drawn together like a pair of magnets.
Oh!
Speaker 5 Okay, now it all makes sense.
Speaker 4 I see.
Speaker 5 For more on Trump's visit to Japan, we go to Tokyo with our very own Troy Iwata.
Speaker 5 Troy, what's the latest?
Speaker 11
It's wild, Desi. President Trump stomping all over the place, humiliating them and embarrassing their prime minister.
This is the worst thing America has ever done to Japan.
Speaker 5 I can think of worse things America has done to Japan.
Speaker 11 Oh yeah, name two.
Speaker 5 Never mind. But look, it seems like the trip is going pretty well for Donald Trump at least.
Speaker 11 Yeah, yeah, a little too well, if you ask me. Really not looking forward to our president becoming a Japan guy.
Speaker 5 Sorry, what is a Japan guy?
Speaker 11 It happens all the time.
Speaker 11 A white guy goes to Japan, has a great time, you know, and then he comes home obsessed with Japanese culture, talking about all the bullet trains, mounting a katana on his wall, pronouncing it karate.
Speaker 11 Like, it's karate! Karate!
Speaker 5 Oh, oh my god, you're so right. Those guys are the worst of all the guys.
Speaker 11 I know, I know. And then, you know, they seem normal at first, and then you go over to their house and they answer the door in a kimono, asking you to take your shoes off.
Speaker 11 You're like, okay, Brandon son, like
Speaker 11 you live in a walk-up in Brooklyn. My shoes are the cleanest thing here.
Speaker 11
And they love talking to me because I'm half Japanese. I'm from California, okay? And I don't watch anime.
I'm an adult.
Speaker 5 Yeah, I know what you mean, Troy, but isn't it just respectful to show some appreciation of Japanese culture?
Speaker 4 No!
Speaker 11
No, they take it too far with everything. Okay, when you order sushi, Alaska roll, California roll, Philadelphia roll, those are named after places you know for a reason.
Okay, those are your roles.
Speaker 4 Know your role.
Speaker 11 But like, Japan guys are diving way too deep into the menu. Like, do you really want Donald Trump trying to say the word Nigeri?
Speaker 4 It's too close.
Speaker 11 It's too close. It's not worth the risk.
Speaker 5
Not worth the risk. Too risky.
But look, maybe maybe this will work itself out. Trump's on his way to South Korea.
Maybe he'll get into their culture and just forget all about Japan.
Speaker 2 Excuse me?
Speaker 11 Okay, Korean culture will never overpower Japanese culture.
Speaker 11
Japan is dominant. It's basically the America of Asia.
Okay, they colonize everything. Lovers of beef, some of the world's best and most creative porn.
Speaker 4 Okay?
Speaker 11 I'm getting big America vibes here in Tokyo.
Speaker 5 Wait, Troy, you're in Japan right now talking about how influential the United States is. I hate to say it, but you're kind of being an American guy.
Speaker 11
Oh my god, you're right. Last night I sang karaoke.
I sang Sweet Home Alabama.
Speaker 11 And I went to a wagu place and I ordered a cheesesteak. Go, Birds, what am I saying?
Speaker 5
Oh my God. Don't worry, Troy, we'll get you home.
Troy, you want to everyone?
Speaker 5 When we come back.
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Speaker 5 My guest tonight is a Grammy Award-winning musician who recently released an expanded version of her latest album, Forever is a Feeling, the archives. Please welcome Lucy Dakis.
Speaker 5 I don't think our staff has been so excited to have a guest before. Everyone is thrilled that you're here, as is the audience, obviously.
Speaker 5 Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5
Thank you for being here. Congratulations on everything.
Your new album, Forever is a Feeling, was described as the most romantic album of 2025.
Speaker 4 Cute.
Speaker 5 What a perfect time to have you here. The most romantic season in the holiday of Halloween.
Speaker 5 So romantic.
Speaker 14 I know a lot of people who got together on Halloween.
Speaker 5 I bet you do. I feel like the costumes alone.
Speaker 14 I know. I mean, everyone's in their sexiest little thing.
Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. So
Speaker 9 a lot of love starts there.
Speaker 5
In sexy little things. I guess so.
It totally does.
Speaker 5 I want to talk about the creative process for writing this album. You talked about how this was your first time really exploring writing love songs.
Speaker 5 What do you think makes a great love song?
Speaker 14 I love love songs that admit that you don't know everything. I think that some love songs that I still love are like, I need you forever, or I'll die without you or something.
Speaker 14 Though those are great songs, I don't think it's like aspirational.
Speaker 5 It's more dramatic when you think about it.
Speaker 14 So I tried to write a lot of songs that were still very passionate but based on the reality that everything passes,
Speaker 14 including maybe the love that you're so passionate about in the moment, but it's still worth doing. Yeah.
Speaker 5 I love that you said writing is the research project of my own thoughts. What was the writing process like for this album compared to other previous albums?
Speaker 14 I guess on my other records I was writing about things that happened years ago, like processing them finally.
Speaker 14 Have you ever done therapy?
Speaker 4 Wait, I shouldn't ask.
Speaker 4 I mean,
Speaker 5 like, can you try to miss like a session now?
Speaker 5 I can't get enough therapy.
Speaker 4 Yes.
Speaker 5 Yes, please bring them out.
Speaker 14 But like in therapy, sometimes there's like a red alert crisis and you need to talk about that as it's happening. And then other times you're like, you know what?
Speaker 14 I'm ready to talk about my mom 10 years ago or something. Love you mom.
Speaker 4 I don't know.
Speaker 14 I'm not talking about you in therapy at all.
Speaker 5 No but we're all talking about our mothers in therapy if we're being honest.
Speaker 4 Yes.
Speaker 14 So like I think those records are more like oh let's go look at the backlog whereas this record was like what is happening to me?
Speaker 14 I need to be thinking about it right now because I have decisions to make and
Speaker 14 so it felt very urgent. Yeah.
Speaker 5
I want to talk about your song Lost Time. There's a lyric that really stuck with me.
Nothing lasts forever, but let's see how far we get.
Speaker 5 So when it comes my time to lose you, I'll have made the most of it. Which feels equal parts deeply romantic and cynical all at the same time.
Speaker 14
I don't know about cynical. It's sad.
Yeah. Like just loss in general.
Right.
Speaker 14 But I think that that's real because whether you lose the person because you're not right for each other anymore or, you know,
Speaker 14 death comes
Speaker 14 why am I always doing this
Speaker 5 it's a very uplifting album it is so uplifting I think it is no it actually
Speaker 5 is
Speaker 5 it truly is
Speaker 5 it is it's it's deeply romantic and and so inspiring and so beautiful
Speaker 5 I want to talk about how fame has impacted your creative process. You had this incredibly successful solo career, and then you got together with your boys, and boy genius took off like crazy.
Speaker 4 And
Speaker 5 you reached this insane amount of fandom and fame.
Speaker 5 How does that impact your creative process when it comes to writing? Because you're writing from such a deep personal place, but you also have this other thing happening, which is this massive fame.
Speaker 5 Do you have to deal with those two things at the same same time or do you not let it affect you?
Speaker 14 Luckily, writing, I don't really know how it's happening. Like I think I tend to write just whatever is coming to mind.
Speaker 14 And so sometimes I'll write about the experience of being known more because it's odd and it changes your personal relationships.
Speaker 14 Like I think a really widespread feeling that like friends of mine have had and I have too is that you're the same guy but everyone else changes. You're like, wait, why do you think I'm different?
Speaker 14 Yeah.
Speaker 14
But you are different as much as anyone else is. It's just that everyone's watching you, so it's more obvious.
Right.
Speaker 5 I say that like I know. Like, oh, right.
Speaker 4 Totally. Yeah.
Speaker 5
Because it's, yeah, because I'm so famous. I totally get it.
You are.
Speaker 5 I'm in your house, actually, right now.
Speaker 4 So this is your table.
Speaker 5 This is my table.
Speaker 4 Yeah.
Speaker 4 My table.
Speaker 4 Let's not forget.
Speaker 4 You heard her.
Speaker 5 You said before that you don't see any any separation between politics and art.
Speaker 5 Do you look at those two things as
Speaker 5 clearly one influences the other, but what came first for you? Was it freedom of expression that led you to music?
Speaker 5 Or did music, did you just wake up and go, holy f ⁇ , I can sing, and that led you to explore your expression?
Speaker 14
I think that when you're born, you have every art available to you, and what actually happens is you are told, or you think, I can't do it. Like, you do wake up singing.
Everybody wakes up singing.
Speaker 14
Everybody wakes up having images in their head and dreams and things. So I'm just lucky that no one told me I couldn't.
Or like no one got annoyed. It takes such a small thing when you're a kid.
Speaker 14 Like if an adult says, like, be quiet one time, you don't know if they mean for five minutes or the rest of your life. So
Speaker 5 this is like a therapy session.
Speaker 4 I know.
Speaker 5 You would make a great therapist, by the way. I think you should keep doing what you're doing, but just know that you're also a great therapist.
Speaker 14 I have an off-ramp, if needed.
Speaker 5 What was that like growing up in your household? You must have had parents that were incredibly encouraging. Were you singing all the time? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 14 Shout out, Sandy and Ben.
Speaker 4 I'm like, looking.
Speaker 14 But my mom is an elementary school music teacher, and my dad is a freelance graphic designer. So they both thought it was very important to make me do things.
Speaker 14 There was actually a rule in my house that I wasn't allowed to say I was bored.
Speaker 14 It was treated as a bad word equal to the real bad ones and my punishment was that I had to make a drawing and my dad would be like oh you said you're bored. Five drawings.
Speaker 4 And it'd be like being grounded.
Speaker 5 I'm gonna steal that.
Speaker 5 You can I'm gonna use that with my son because I will say I truly believe that some of like for my son anyway like, his best ideas come from when he's incredibly and deeply bored.
Speaker 4 Boredom is very fruitful.
Speaker 14 People should not be scared of that.
Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm stealing that.
Speaker 5 You don't mind, right? No, I'll give you credit.
Speaker 4 Give Ben Dakis credit.
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 5
They honestly, your parents must be so proud of you. They're very cool.
Yeah, they did a good job. Thanks so much.
Speaker 5 Your song, Best Guest has been used by your fans for proposals and weddings so much that you decided to get ordained and have been performing weddings at your concerts.
Speaker 5 How did you decide to start doing that? What inspired that?
Speaker 14 I wish I had thought of it a long time ago,
Speaker 14 but we started doing this in July and I gave people like three days' notice before our first show of tour and
Speaker 14 People showed up and had their marriage licenses and danced on stage in every city that we've played since, people have signed up to get married. And it's been really sweet.
Speaker 14 I, you know, the thought occurred about a year ago when
Speaker 14
Trump took office. And it just, he came for trans rights so quickly, and that affected so many of my friends.
And my mom actually was like, he's going to come for gay marriage and
Speaker 14 marriage equality. And I think it's November 7th that they're hearing some cases in the Supreme Court that might
Speaker 14 affect equal rights. Who knows? Whatever the case is, it's just such a colossal, miserable waste of time to
Speaker 14 why
Speaker 14 it's very confusing.
Speaker 14 So I just thought it would be fun, and it's really sweet. And I think we did 154
Speaker 4 couples. Wow.
Speaker 5 Now, if some of those marriages don't go well, do you do annulments for the encore?
Speaker 14 We talked about this. You did.
Speaker 14 I don't know how,
Speaker 14 no.
Speaker 5 Hopefully you don't have to do that.
Speaker 4 Hopefully, hopefully not.
Speaker 5
Yeah, God willing. Yeah.
You're performing tonight.
Speaker 5 Your song, Modigliani, my favorite lyric in this song, You Make Me Homesick for Places I've Never Been Before.
Speaker 5 Can you talk about the inspiration behind this song?
Speaker 14 Yeah, my friend was on tour in Singapore and I had COVID and I was laying on the floor trying to...
Speaker 14 I'm basically saying the lyrics now, so this is going to sound very funny when I play it, but I was literally on the floor trying to go to sleep and I was like, I wish I could call her.
Speaker 14
She actually sang on the song. It's Phoebe, who's in Boy Genius as well.
And
Speaker 14 she was just in a different part of her day. And so
Speaker 14 just that feeling of like wherever the people you love are,
Speaker 14 just feeling like a kindredness with whatever they're touching. Or like if someone who's really close to your heart goes somewhere you've never been, a piece of you is actually there.
Speaker 4 Yeah.
Speaker 5
I love that that came out of you having COVID. When I had COVID, I binge-watched Love Island, and that's pretty much the extent of it.
You are so inspiring. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 5 Forever is a feeling. The archives is out now.
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