Trump Whines He’s “Unappreciated” & Self-Soothes with Ballroom and Third-Term Talk | Zohran Mamdani

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Speaker 4 We will be discussing his plans to turn the city into a communist hellscape

Speaker 4 where crime is legal and subway rats receive universal basic income.

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Speaker 4 But first,

Speaker 4 our current president, Donald Josephine Trump,

Speaker 4 is currently on a tour of Asia where he will be meeting with allies such as the new Japanese prime minister and rivals such as Xi Jinping.

Speaker 4 It's a crucial moment with huge ramifications for the current tariff regime in this country and for the peace and security of the entire region itself.

Speaker 4 But first stop, Kuala Lempur, so let's dance, motherfucker!

Speaker 4 He loves this shit.

Speaker 4 I love at the end, he was like, eh, eh, eh, and then he just goes like, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's all I got.

Speaker 4 He loves the red carpet. He loves the hats.
None of it makes any sense. They're playing the theme song to Hawaii 5-0.

Speaker 4 None of it made any sense.

Speaker 4 But he loves the pomp. And he loves the circumstance.
That's why

Speaker 4 he loves going overseas. That's what they give him overseas.
Ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 4 it's what he loves.

Speaker 4 Look what we do to him here.

Speaker 4 This is what he tweeted right before leaving on the trip. I want to thank Donald Trump for working like a dog for no money to save a country that doesn't appreciate his sacrifice.

Speaker 4 I hope you're happy, America.

Speaker 4 Look at this poor son of a bitch.

Speaker 4 He just wants

Speaker 4 to save his country. And all he asks for in return is a little bit of total unquestioning fealty

Speaker 4 and a few billion dollars in influence money and new forms of currency.

Speaker 4 This poor bastard.

Speaker 4 Hey, buddy!

Speaker 4 Want to go to Malaysia?

Speaker 4 Yeah, there we go. Come on!

Speaker 4 But what do we do when he comes home?

Speaker 4 Beef is too expensive. My health care bankrupted me.
Where's my Abuela?

Speaker 4 Poor

Speaker 4 little billionaire president.

Speaker 4 He hates it here.

Speaker 4 And why wouldn't he?

Speaker 4 Everything he does for us, we have a problem with.

Speaker 4 What's the one thing that we've wanted in this country for as long as I can remember?

Speaker 4 An outsized ballroom.

Speaker 4 I have been talking about this. Cyrus, someday I'll grow up and do that cha-cha.

Speaker 4 Remember the March when we all wore the chandelier hats?

Speaker 4 No No crown molding, no peace.

Speaker 4 When I say crystal, you say stemware. Crystals!

Speaker 4 Crystals!

Speaker 4 I can't believe how well that works.

Speaker 4 We don't rehearse any of that.

Speaker 4 How easily fascism comes to America.

Speaker 4 Chant with me.

Speaker 4 So we've always wanted a giant ballroom, and then, as soon as the man surprises us by completely demolishing the east wing of the White House after announcing that he would not touch it at all,

Speaker 4 suddenly everybody's got a problem.

Speaker 5 The new construction plans haven't been filed with the National Capital Planning Commission for public input or to have review by professionals who actually work in this field.

Speaker 4 Well, maybe you'd like to file an appeal with the thing's already not here anymore, board.

Speaker 4 You know, the man

Speaker 4 is just trying to give Americans a $300 million space that we can use four to six times a year.

Speaker 4 And you're all worried if it's the right shade of historic federal gray from Pharaoh and Ball.

Speaker 4 It's like we don't even want to be happy.

Speaker 4 And then, as if that's not bad enough, after Trump builds us a double the White House next to the White House,

Speaker 4 we won't even offer him the simplest of thanks.

Speaker 4 We act like he's in it for himself.

Speaker 6 ABC News now reporting Trump will likely name the ballroom after himself.

Speaker 6 How dare you, sir?

Speaker 4 At long last, have you no decency? What makes you think this selfless man, look at him?

Speaker 4 What makes you think this selfless man is so arrogant as to want his name over whatever he makes? You

Speaker 4 bastards.

Speaker 4 You know, if George Washington had known there would come a day when an American president would be so disrespected that he couldn't even build a ballroom without filing plans first,

Speaker 4 would he even have crossed the Delaware?

Speaker 4 Or might he have said, forget the whole thing, me boys?

Speaker 4 I don't know his accent.

Speaker 4 Forget the whole thing, me boys.

Speaker 4 And don't just say, oh, the white house but it's a historic building and a symbol for the country and it means a lot to a lot of people we have been nagging this man since he selflessly decided not to host a sequel to the apprentice and lead our great nation

Speaker 8 and these are the complaints just from the last few weeks the president igniting a firestorm president trump facing new questions about his latest pardon tension rising on president trump's plan to send the military to american cities tensions rising as the shutdown is dragging on cattle ranchers across the country are blasting President Trump.

Speaker 4 Cattle ranchers?

Speaker 4 How dare you?

Speaker 4 He's personally keeping you in business.

Speaker 4 We

Speaker 4 are taking the joy out of this thing.

Speaker 4 And then, as sad as he gets,

Speaker 4 When he goes to blow off a little steam by blowing up some boats.

Speaker 10 If you want to engage in a war with Venezuela, you need to come to Congress for an authorization. There being none, these strikes are unconstitutional and unlawful.

Speaker 4 Nag, nag, nag.

Speaker 4 Which one of you murdered those people without due process? Woo, was it you? You get detention.

Speaker 4 You see what you've done? You're killing this guy.

Speaker 8 You treat me so unfairly.

Speaker 4 It's hate.

Speaker 11 You have a lot of hate in your heart. You know nothing about nothing.
You're fake news. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Quiet.

Speaker 4 You're really obnoxious.

Speaker 11 One of the worst reporters that you'll ever see. I don't even want to take a question.
You're a third-grade reporter. Always have been.
Frankly, you're a terrible reporter. You know it, and so do I.

Speaker 11 Who is that back here?

Speaker 12 All right, get out of the room.

Speaker 4 Our constant complaining.

Speaker 4 is turning him into the worst version of himself.

Speaker 4 He doesn't want to be this person.

Speaker 4 Everyone knows a healthy relationship is a relationship where one person gets to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

Speaker 4 Even if some of that shit's illegal. And the other person

Speaker 4 has to eat it.

Speaker 4 Just eat it. If you don't want to eat it, at the very least, just pretend like you don't see it.
Like Speaker Mike Johnson.

Speaker 9 How comfortable are you with the president apparently seeking $230 million from the Department of Justice?

Speaker 7 I don't know the details about that.

Speaker 7 I've just read it. I didn't talk with him about that.

Speaker 4 See?

Speaker 4 How hard is that? Ugh.

Speaker 4 I'm just

Speaker 4 dumb.

Speaker 4 And by the way, anyone can pull that off when they're first asked. A real pro.
can pull it off when they're asked the exact same thing the next day.

Speaker 8 You said yesterday you were still trying to get the details of this $230 million the president has asked for justice to pay for his legal bills.

Speaker 8 Now that you've had some time enough to get the details, are you okay with taxpayers potentially being on the hook for that kind of money?

Speaker 7 I'm not trying to dodge the question. I haven't had time to get the details.
Okay, that's still on my list, things to do list.

Speaker 7 No, he hasn't had the time.

Speaker 7 He hasn't had the time.

Speaker 4 He's got a big list of things to do. He's got the covering up of the Epstein files and,

Speaker 4 well, I guess that's the only thing on the list. But still, there's a lot of papers in that file.
It's pro-level ignorance support.

Speaker 4 But if you want a relationship to work, you've got to put in that kind of effort. Every day, you've got to show up for that person.
Every day, Mike Johnson does.

Speaker 7 I don't know anything about the meme coin thing. I don't know.
That's the first I've heard of that. I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I've never seen the Epstein evidence.

Speaker 7 I haven't seen the specifics of that. I don't know the details.
I just saw a headline this morning. I haven't seen it.

Speaker 8 I can't comment on it.

Speaker 7 I've been a little busy today. Look, I don't know anything about the dinner.
I was a little busy this past week. I don't know anything about it yet.

Speaker 4 I've been really busy. Do you support those comments or not?

Speaker 7 I don't know what Eric was saying because I only heard just a snippet there. I don't know the context.

Speaker 4 You just saw it, sir.

Speaker 4 What? Did I?

Speaker 4 Did I see it? I haven't had a chance to see myself seeing it.

Speaker 4 But seeing myself seeing it is on my list of things not to do. I'm very busy.

Speaker 4 We've got a lot of work to do, America. Because if we're going to hold on to this man

Speaker 4 for the rest of our natural lives,

Speaker 4 it's going to be hard.

Speaker 4 But lucky for us,

Speaker 4 even after everything, he's still open to making it work.

Speaker 4 Steve Bandon said in a recent interview that there could be plans for you to be able to run and potentially win a third term in 2028. Is that something you'd be willing to challenge a court?

Speaker 8 I haven't really thought about it. Yes!

Speaker 8 He's doing it!

Speaker 4 I haven't thought about it. That's the tell for whenever he's asked about something that he is definitely going to do that is dubious legally, ethically, or morally.

Speaker 4 He says he hasn't thought about it. But of course, we know he's thought about it because

Speaker 4 he already has the merch.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now, of course, the negative Nellies are going to have issues. They'll say presidents cannot serve more than two terms due to the 22nd Amendment.

Speaker 4 You'll recall that Congress ratified it after FDR served four terms and caused irreparable harm to this country by inventing the podcast.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 what's interesting about Trump is he's actually worked through the various scenarios of running for a third term he has not thought about.

Speaker 4 One theory on how you might try to serve a third term is that you could run as the vice president.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I'd be allowed to do that. You'd be allowed to do that, but I wouldn't want.

Speaker 8 I think

Speaker 13 it's too cute.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I would rule that out because it's too cute. I think the people would like that.
It's too cute.

Speaker 4 Too cute?

Speaker 4 No, that's why you don't go to Bilde Bear as an adult.

Speaker 4 Running as the vice president to skirt the 22nd Amendment isn't cute.

Speaker 4 But he's the kind of guy who's like, I respect Americans too much to play games. If I'm going to run again, I'm going to rip off the Constitution's head and shit down its neck.

Speaker 4 And truth is, indications are very clear he's going to do it. Because you don't move into a house, knock down a wing, and build a 90,000 square foot ballroom for the next guy.

Speaker 4 Trump's not a house flipper. He's not Ellen.

Speaker 4 He's in it for the long haul. But the question then becomes, why?

Speaker 4 We've already let him down so badly.

Speaker 4 America's clearly not his happy place.

Speaker 4 So maybe there's a solution that could work for everybody. I'd like to propose it.

Speaker 4 Let's make Donald Trump our overseas president in 2028.

Speaker 4 Did you have the title?

Speaker 4 We could give him all the pomp and all the adoration. He could be America's touring company, taking our great show anywhere.

Speaker 4 But here.

Speaker 4 He can dance in Malaysia. He could hold orbs with the Saudis.
He could pretend to enjoy literature with the King of England.

Speaker 4 And when he's done, we'll put him back on the plane and have everyone ask him questions.

Speaker 4 And we'll do it all again.

Speaker 4 I'd like that.

Speaker 4 Would you like that, Donnie?

Speaker 4 He likes it!

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Speaker 4 My guest tonight, he represents Queens in the New York State Assembly, and he is the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City. Please welcome to the show, Zoran Mamdani.

Speaker 4 They're very nice.

Speaker 4 They're very nice.

Speaker 4 This is it.

Speaker 4 These are the people you would like to represent. Yes.
The New York City people.

Speaker 4 I'm curious about that. You know, I had spoken with you months ago and I felt a real love that you had for New York City.
Now that you've gotten to know us,

Speaker 4 still there? Still love it. Really? Still love this.
All of it. All of it.
All of it.

Speaker 4 All of it. What do you got now? You got three days, four days? Is that?

Speaker 8 We've got about eight days left.

Speaker 4 Eight days. Eight days left.
And what is that,

Speaker 4 in that moment,

Speaker 4 do you have to keep, what do you think you need to do to close the deal, to

Speaker 4 keep this? You are clearly right now in the front-running position, I can tell because they've gone 9-11 on you.

Speaker 4 So that's clearly a sign of...

Speaker 8 The closing argument.

Speaker 4 A closing argument. 9-11!

Speaker 4 So what do you feel like you've got to do to close the deal with New York citizens?

Speaker 8 You know, it is in many ways the same thing that got us here, which is campusing. Oh, really?

Speaker 8 You know, for all of the focus on rallies, on commercials, on debates, it really comes back to people speaking to other New Yorkers about the city that we all love.

Speaker 8 We have 90,000 volunteers right now.

Speaker 4 On your campaign. On your campaign.

Speaker 4 90,000.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 8 it's 90,000 people who are picking up the phone, phone banking someone that they don't know. 90,000 people who have knocked on a door of a New Yorker they've never met.
90,000 people who just

Speaker 8 wait for 15 seconds

Speaker 4 and hope

Speaker 4 someone will open up. I just love more than anything.

Speaker 4 It's strangers coming to us.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Or calling them.

Speaker 8 You know, I think this is the thing is that for people that we're often characterized as being rude, I will tell you that New Yorkers have been so kind.

Speaker 8 in the experiences they've had with our volunteers because what they're speaking to is another New Yorker.

Speaker 8 And And it's an understanding that politics is not something you have, it's something that you do.

Speaker 8 And in this moment where politics has become just another word for division, for not just Republicans, but also Democrats,

Speaker 8 these New Yorkers are ones who've understood that you never hate someone more than before you know them.

Speaker 8 Knocking on that door, having that conversation, doesn't just win the election for us, it also starts to build the city that we want to leave.

Speaker 4 What's the kind of feedback that you get from your volunteers in the field? And what about for you, Cambridge?

Speaker 4 Because I have to tell you, one of the most, I thought, shrewdest campaign moves, and this was in the primary, not in the general, is when you walked from the top of Manhattan all the way down to the bottom and just, and met people.

Speaker 4 You've got to be very confident in yourself to do that, because New Yorkers will generally tell you what they think

Speaker 4 when they see you.

Speaker 8 And even when they are telling you something that's technically supportive, it sounds like you're being heckled

Speaker 4 i was

Speaker 4 i was uh

Speaker 4 that is what we do i was i was on nostronab a few days ago and this woman just pulled up in her car she was like i'm voting for you i was like

Speaker 4 i was like i don't

Speaker 4 thank you it just sounded like i was about to get my ass whooped but it was by my voter right so It was a...

Speaker 4 And New Yorkers, by the way, no one will be as mad at you if it doesn't go right as the people people who love you now. Have you felt that as well?

Speaker 8 You know, it's often framed as a burden or as an obligation. Right.
But frankly, I think it's an opportunity.

Speaker 8 It's an opportunity to actually show that this whole campaign where we've talked about freezing the rent, making buses faster, free, delivering universal child care, these are not just slogans.

Speaker 8 These are commitments. And when we deliver them here in New York City, it will be also the delivery of a politics that can actually aspire for more than what you're living through.

Speaker 8 And for so many people across the city, politics has just become synonymous with an argument of celebrate the little you have or lose that.

Speaker 4 Right. And it can't be that.
Zero sum. It can't be that.
Do you have a Mamdani hierarchy of needs? You know, I lived in this city for a very long time.

Speaker 4 And I can tell you, livability

Speaker 4 is,

Speaker 4 if you can run this place, you will earn

Speaker 4 a great deal of leeway to do all kinds of innovative things.

Speaker 4 But if people feel disorder,

Speaker 4 man, you won't be able to do...

Speaker 4 And I've lived through the eras of New York where it was disorder.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 it does make it. People feel it.

Speaker 8 I mean, looks, public safety is the prerequisite for an affordability agenda.

Speaker 4 Job one.

Speaker 8 Right? People have to be safe.

Speaker 8 And we also know that safety is something that you not only deliver with the NYPD, it's also something that you deliver by ensuring that there are actually jobs that can pay people enough to stay in the city.

Speaker 8 All of these things are integrated.

Speaker 4 Tell me that last part again.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 8 today

Speaker 8 I was taking the one train downtown with a reporter from ABC, and we were having a conversation. And we walk on the train, and there's a homeless man sleeping on the train.

Speaker 8 And for all

Speaker 4 the Cuomo campaign? No, he was.

Speaker 4 He was not.

Speaker 4 But my.

Speaker 4 That's just bad humor.

Speaker 4 Bad humor.

Speaker 8 But my point is that we get on the train and we see this, and this is an illustration of the fact.

Speaker 8 There are about 4,300 New Yorkers who are homeless between our subway platforms, our parks, our streets.

Speaker 8 There's almost the same number of vacant supportive housing units that are built for those very kinds of New Yorkers experiencing homelessness. They're vacant.
And so I tell this to you as an example.

Speaker 8 It's not all going to be about a fight for funding or a fight for, you know, transforming city government in the ways that are only big.

Speaker 8 It's also the ways that are small, the efficiency of the bureaucracy.

Speaker 8 Because that is an example to New Yorkers that we have a city government that's complacent with the fact that one in four New Yorkers are living in poverty in the wealthiest city in the country.

Speaker 4 That's unexpected. And it's interesting how much New Yorkers judge the quality of life in New York City.
from the quality of life under New York City.

Speaker 4 I can remember the subways, you know, in the bad old days.

Speaker 4 I'm going to tell you a story.

Speaker 4 But when I first moved here in the more chaotic days, back when I was a purveyor of,

Speaker 4 I guess you would call them

Speaker 4 recreational park vendors.

Speaker 4 We would buy from their,

Speaker 4 let's say, cart.

Speaker 8 Don't tell me this after January 1st.

Speaker 4 No, no, no.

Speaker 4 But it was the city.

Speaker 4 I was young then and I didn't mind it, but when I got a family, it was a very different, and the city that I embraced for its chaos as a younger man, I don't think I would have as an older person.

Speaker 4 Does that

Speaker 4 quality of life issue, because that's not just Manhattan, that's everywhere.

Speaker 8 And I think it's a frustration of mine that we've allowed the words quality of life to become seen as if they're bywords for the Republican Party.

Speaker 8 They should be at the heart of any progressive politics.

Speaker 8 If you care about working people, you have to deliver an excellent quality of life for those people.

Speaker 4 Man, oh man, is that.

Speaker 4 And I got to tell you, it always freaks me out when progressives don't push for people in communities that have less money to serve the same security and quality of life that people on Fifth Avenue deserve.

Speaker 4 And I think we've forgotten that.

Speaker 8 And I think it's, you just think about the incentives in city government right now, right? You have a trash can in New York City that's overflowing.

Speaker 8 City government's response is often remove the trash can, not increase trash collection of the trash can. Really? This is.

Speaker 4 Now, I didn't know we had trash cans that weren't overflowing.

Speaker 4 I thought that New York City bought them

Speaker 4 filled. Yeah, just permanently

Speaker 4 at the top. I assumed it was just some sort of

Speaker 4 illusion. You buy a house for your cat, that's just for the rats

Speaker 4 to have somewhere to climb.

Speaker 8 But I think this is, in a city where we're saying we don't have enough money to take care of those who have the least, we have enough money to pay McKinsey to design that trash can.

Speaker 8 That's the city we're living in. It's not about money, it's about will.

Speaker 4 And what I love hearing about this is one of the things that's been so frustrating in our politics is so much of it has been defined over these last 10 years as the negative case against someone.

Speaker 4 And finally, and I think this is not blowing smoke, I think you've made an affirmative case for people.

Speaker 4 I think the enthusiasm that they have for you is because you've made an affirmative case that's not about protecting something that's going to be lost or a bad man that's over there.

Speaker 4 It's about an idea that you have.

Speaker 4 And it surprised me that the Democratic establishment did not embrace that energy. And is that something that has bothered you, is getting better?

Speaker 4 I mean, Hakeem Jeffries, with a brave, brave endorsement, I thought

Speaker 4 24 hours ago.

Speaker 4 What's that been like for you?

Speaker 8 You know,

Speaker 8 I think it's interesting in many ways because

Speaker 8 our politics and the media that covers it is often focused on the question of endorsements.

Speaker 8 And it's part of what gave Cuomo the sense of inevitability in the primary. He just seemed to pick up up all of these different endorsements.

Speaker 8 And I think what we showed in many ways was that the days of endorsements deciding elections, those days have come to an end. It's the people that build up a campaign.

Speaker 8 And,

Speaker 8 you know,

Speaker 8 I appreciate having Congressman Jeffries' endorsement, and I appreciate more than that, that when we've spoken, it's been about how do we deliver for our shared constituents.

Speaker 8 Because it's, you know, these are the same New New Yorkers, whether we're representing them in City Hall or in Albany or in DC.

Speaker 8 And, like you've said, we've been telling them time and again that all we have to offer is not Trump, but this is also the city that created Trump. Right.
We have to reckon with that.

Speaker 4 And when you think about it-Did you hear there was an audible gasp?

Speaker 4 This is the city that created Trump, and everybody was like, Oh my god, that's right.

Speaker 4 Are we Dr. Frankenstein?

Speaker 4 No!

Speaker 4 No!

Speaker 8 But it's, you know,

Speaker 8 after the presidential election, there were all of these obituaries written about the Democratic Party's ability to motivate young voters.

Speaker 8 And there's just this condescension in the language that we use about young people. And I can just tell you that what we found in this campaign is that young people have been at the heart.

Speaker 8 of believing that something could be more than this. And I would say, you know, throughout the primary, this quote from Ed Koch, if you agree with me on 9 out of 12 issues, vote for me.

Speaker 8 12 out of 12, see a psychiatrist.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 8 And I'm in Washington Square Park. I'm filming a video with David Hogg.

Speaker 4 And this young guy comes up to me and goes, 12 out of 12, baby, send me away.

Speaker 4 It took me a moment. I was like,

Speaker 4 what are you talking about?

Speaker 8 And then today on that same one train,

Speaker 8 I meet a guy who's like, yeah, man, I'm so hyped about the corporate tax being the same level as New Jersey.

Speaker 8 And I'm like, you look at the fluency that people have with what it is that we're talking about, and it comes from the fact that we're talking to young people like we would talk to anyone.

Speaker 4 You're not patronizing. We're not patronizing.
We're not condescending.

Speaker 8 We're not like, you know, hanging a shiny little thing and saying, please come follow it.

Speaker 4 And those are the people, look, that is a natural constituency. You're a young man.

Speaker 4 You know, you've got an energy.

Speaker 4 That's a natural constituency. You've also, though, been trying to connect with those that see you as more of a caricature.
I've watched you try and

Speaker 4 open a dialogue with certain people that are really concerned, some of them in good faith, some of them in bad faith, about

Speaker 4 are you experienced enough to handle the city's a bear for even

Speaker 4 the best manager? There are real issues. What's been your experience meeting and reaching out with those that look at you existentially because we live in a culture now.

Speaker 4 You're either a savior or the death of us all.

Speaker 4 So what's it like reaching out to that other group?

Speaker 8 You know, I don't begrudge New Yorkers who are skeptical because they've also lived through tens of millions of dollars of commercials telling them to fear me. Right.

Speaker 8 You know, they have lived through waking up every morning and seeing a photo of me and just feeling like, oh my God, because the language that's written around me is as if I am a threat to the city that they love.

Speaker 8 And so when I meet with them, just the mere fact that I don't strangle them within 30 seconds is often as superduous as

Speaker 4 a bar that's been sad.

Speaker 8 but and then I think it's it's an opportunity where you know I both can tell them the things that I will do and the things that I won't do right I will freeze the rent I won't defund the police I will make buses fast and free I won't decriminalize misdemeanors I will deliver universal child care I won't require everyone to eat halal food this is

Speaker 4 this is

Speaker 8 this sounds like a punchline this is literally made news this is literally in a push-poll to New Yorkers saying that I'm going to make halal mandatory

Speaker 8 and it's like if you do want to eat halal, like go to 34th Avenue and Sineway, go to Mahmouds, but I'm not going to force you to go there.

Speaker 4 Right. You wouldn't force them, but you would describe it in such delicious terms

Speaker 4 that people would have a hard time. If they wanted chicken and rice, there would only be one place.
Resisting that.

Speaker 4 And what about those who worry about feasibility? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Who say, and this is another thing, because not just there's a character presented, but we've also lived through decades of people who promised idealism, who promised a lot lot of things, and didn't either run the city well or be able to deliver on that.

Speaker 4 And those are not easy things to deliver. You know, I'll give you an example.
You were talking about a couple of taxes that you wanted to raise. It was a millionaire's tax, and I think one other tax.

Speaker 4 Kathy Hochl last night. And you were talking about that.
And

Speaker 4 Kathy Hochle is on stage. She goes, we'll see.

Speaker 4 She couldn't even, in the middle of it, she's like, I'm going to fight that, okay?

Speaker 4 How are you going to to deal with the reality when it meets, rubber meets the road when you get in there?

Speaker 8 You know, we have seen that that reality is in many ways a result of the political coalition that you build.

Speaker 8 The coalition you build can change that reality. We changed it from October to now of last year.
We can keep changing it.

Speaker 8 Because what we found is talking about raising taxes on people who make a million dollars, increasing it by just 2%,

Speaker 8 increasing the state's corporate tax rate to to match that of the socialist utopia of New Jersey.

Speaker 8 These are things that are not just broadly popular, they also have precedence. And most importantly, though, you're not looking to do them in and of themselves.

Speaker 8 You're looking to do them to fund an affordability agenda that would transform quality of life for every New Yorker. And I think the question...

Speaker 4 To make this city affordable.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'll be honest with you, you know, I moved up here again in the early, like, I can't remember remember a time this city was ever affordable. Like, that truly would be.

Speaker 4 I worry sometimes if you make it affordable, if you make it nicer,

Speaker 4 more people will want to come here. Which is good.
And then the prices will go up. It's such a, do we just need,

Speaker 4 you know, we talk about housing and all those different things. Do we just need more land?

Speaker 4 There's this park that I've been to in the middle of the city. It's...

Speaker 4 What an incredible opportunity. Right?

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 is what makes it so difficult here just the density that you're dealing with?

Speaker 8 Well, I think it's actually the absence of imagination more than the density.

Speaker 8 We obviously have a finite amount of land,

Speaker 8 but the ways in which we restrict ourselves from building on that same amount of land, right, it means that Jersey City is building seven homes per thousand people, Tokyo is building 10, we're barely at four.

Speaker 8 And that's not because of the lack of land, that's also because we don't want to build enough around the little land that we have. Right, and you know, I think it's

Speaker 8 you were asking earlier about the feasibility, the experience.

Speaker 8 Part of this is also not having an understanding of leadership that you yourself make every decision, and you yourself are the person who must know every single thing.

Speaker 8 Right, you actually create a team around you, and they're not all going to be 34, right? This is a team of people who younger, yeah,

Speaker 8 this is the retirement age

Speaker 4 and the k-pop demon hunters

Speaker 4 they're gonna go in and knock it up

Speaker 4 but even that I have to tell you and again you know I'm just I'm impressed with there's a certain humility to that that I don't think a lot of politicians come come into the game with to say like hey man I probably don't have all the answers and I'm gonna be looking at at some experienced hands that I think might be able to help with that.

Speaker 8 And I think it's a part of youth, frankly. I think youth gives you an innate sense of possibility and a humility that you don't know everything.

Speaker 8 And I think it's, you know,

Speaker 8 it's time to have people around you that are not just characterized by the quickness with which they say yes to every idea you put in front of them.

Speaker 4 Right, right.

Speaker 4 Are you.

Speaker 4 And I don't want to keep harping on it.

Speaker 4 Harp, are you sure you don't want to go with the more land thing?

Speaker 4 What if we just built, you know, I know they do this sometimes in the Middle East, they just build islands out of nothing.

Speaker 4 Can't we do, but can't we connect lower Lower Manhattan to the Statue of Liberty and then just throw up a couple of high rises?

Speaker 8 I actually just want to take this moment. That is the policy idea I came here tonight to.

Speaker 4 Perfect.

Speaker 4 We need something in these last eight days.

Speaker 4 Lastly, before you go, I want to, you know, we were talking earlier in a meeting about,

Speaker 4 you know, the interview that we're going to go. And one of our writers, Devin,

Speaker 4 came up with something that I thought was really interesting about who the real MVP of your campaign is.

Speaker 4 You really seemed to take hold when you were out at Madison Square Garden outside of MSG after basketball games, talking to people about how much your tickets, all those things.

Speaker 4 Do you remember all those videos?

Speaker 8 I do remember that.

Speaker 4 Fantastic, right? Thank you.

Speaker 4 They really took hold because of how deep the Knicks went into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 That's what it was.

Speaker 4 So, in many ways, isn't the MVP of your campaign

Speaker 4 Mr. Jalen Brunston?

Speaker 4 Isn't it Jalen Brunston? Isn't that

Speaker 4 sir at long last?

Speaker 8 I am glad you said Jalen Brunson. I thought you were going to say James Dolan.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 I was not going to have it.

Speaker 4 Jalen Brunston.

Speaker 4 I'm glad he's not running for mayor.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 4 I wish you all the best.

Speaker 4 Honestly, you know, I think any New Yorker who looks at someone getting an opportunity who's representing communities that have not been as representative, a Muslim, a young person, a progressive, a democratic socialist.

Speaker 4 You know, there are so many different communities that are looking to you, and this, I hate to put it on you, as a bit of a Jackie Robinson moment. And I know that that

Speaker 4 probably wields some weight, but man, oh man, what an exciting opportunity. Thank you.
And I wish you the best. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Bro, my money, we're going to take quick break. We'll be right back every day.

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Speaker 9 Oh, well, John, big developments in last week's jewelry heist at the Louvre.

Speaker 9 Police have arrested two people, and that is definitely all the thieves. Case closed.

Speaker 4 I mean, that seems like kind of a big heist for just two people.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 9 It couldn't be more than one two-person tops.

Speaker 4 Tops.

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Speaker 4 What?

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Speaker 4 What did your nana do?

Speaker 9 She robbed the Louvre.

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