Democrats' Cringey Opposition, DEI Ban Black History Quiz | Gabrielle Union
Desi Lydic rates the Democratic Party's methods of opposing Trump: from off-key protest chants to interpretive dance to podcasts on the cringe-o-meter. Plus, with so many Dems saying "F**k Trump," Grace Kuhlenschmidt thinks that might just be a great idea.
Josh Johnson asks how NYCers honor black history without breaking DEI bans.
Actor, producer, and entrepreneur Gabrielle Union sits down with Desi Lydic for a conversation about making the new film she stars in, “Riff Raff,” and how she uses her power as a producer to enact positive change in the industry and uplift people who are typically overlooked. They also discuss Union’s pride in her daughter Zaya’s actvisim work for the queer community and trans rights.
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Speaker 1 We've got so much to talk about tonight. Democrats can't remember where they put their Riz.
Speaker 1 America whitewashes Black History Month, and Donald Trump loses a fight to a girl. So let's get right into it.
Speaker 7 I'm going to come.
Speaker 1 Since taking office, Donald Trump and the Republicans have been making a lot of big changes in the same way that Godzilla made some big changes in Tokyo.
Speaker 1 But there's also been a liberal opposition growing over the past few weeks. People have started taking to the streets and making their voices heard.
Speaker 8 Hundreds of federal employees gathered on Capitol Hill for what they called a rally to save the civil service.
Speaker 9 Which side are you on?
Speaker 1 Which side are you on?
Speaker 1 We'll fight against Josh.
Speaker 5 We'll fight Levon Mess.
Speaker 10 Which key are we on?
Speaker 1 Sorry, but that sounded so bad I had to cleanse my ears with an RFK Jr.
Speaker 9 speech.
Speaker 1 Were there any protests that aren't just singing?
Speaker 11 There is a unique protest getting underway at the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 11 Two Two dance companies are staging a dance protest, as they're calling it, against the Trump administration's recent takeover of the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 12 We have started to see dancers show up here to the Kennedy Center doing a dance called the Melkin Line. It's by a German dancer that is pretty popular, they tell me.
Speaker 1 Is this how white ladies protest now? I demand to dance for the manager.
Speaker 1
You know what? At least they're getting out there. And these are regular citizens doing their best.
It's not their responsibility to block the Trump agenda. That's on the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 They have the talent and experience honed from decades of asking me for money. They'll know, they will know exactly the most effective way to fight Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 We need to change the conversation, and that's why I'm launching a new podcast.
Speaker 1
Cool. California Governor Gavin Newsom is starting a podcast.
I can't believe they rebuilt LA that fast. Glad you have the time.
Speaker 1 I mean, forgive me for not subscribing to the Gavin Newsom Pomade Hour, but I think the moment calls for a little more than polite conversation, although some Democrats are taking that very literally.
Speaker 14 If you could speak directly to Elon Musk, what would you say?
Speaker 1 That's right, the Democratic Strategy written and directed by Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 1 Look, I get the spirit behind it, but cursing in politics doesn't exactly age well. The Gettysburg Address wouldn't have been the classic it became if it went four score in a f ton years ago.
Speaker 1
Not to mention dropping the F-bomb isn't really for everyone. I noticed Congresswoman Maxine Dexter had a little bit of trouble.
I am going to tell you that we do have to.
Speaker 1 I don't swear in public very well, but we have to f ⁇ Trump.
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 you are right. You don't swear in public very well.
Speaker 1 There are a thousand ways to say f you, and you found literally the only wrong one.
Speaker 1 I mean, unless she meant, we have to fing Trump. There's a sign-up sheet next to the stage.
Speaker 1 Suck him off. Suck him off.
Speaker 1 But not all Democrats are filling up the swear jar. Some have gone much more highbrow with a little resistance wordplay.
Speaker 8 Every time you hear Doge,
Speaker 8 the Department of Government Efficiency, you just remember it is the Department of Government Evil.
Speaker 11 Doge, which actually stands for Destruction of Government by Elon, just stands for Department of Gutting Education.
Speaker 10 Dang, this all the dogs grab everything.
Speaker 1
All right, okay, I see what you did there. I'm just glad that Maxine Dexter didn't join in.
She'd be like more like the Department of Glory Holing Elon. Oh!
Speaker 1 Don't.
Speaker 1 This is what happens when you're the party of liberal arts majors. MAGA stormed the Capitol and Democrats are doing creative writing exercises.
Speaker 1 But hey, if clever acronyms aren't your thing, Democrats are also pulling out some timely pop culture references.
Speaker 2 We also know, of course, that Elon Musk is sending his unqualified Doge staff to carry out this agenda across all of these agencies. And in some cases, actually teenage staffers.
Speaker 2 They're trying to rob you and they're probably a minor.
Speaker 13 Thank you and I yield back.
Speaker 1 I'm sorry, I became a Republican for a second.
Speaker 1 Look, I don't know how, but I think this congressman somehow just lost the beef for Kendrick.
Speaker 1 I do think.
Speaker 1 I do think, though, that every rat battle should end with, thank you, I yield my time.
Speaker 1 Let's all be fair, okay? Because not all of the Democratic messaging has been breaking the cringe of meters.
Speaker 1 Bernie Sanders has been on an anti-oligarchy tour, and his town halls have been drawing huge, huge crowds.
Speaker 1 Remember, he's been warning us about the oligarchy way before Elon Musk was wearing a MAGA hat, so this really feels like his moment.
Speaker 1 Too bad he'll be 87 years old by the time the next election rolls around, unless we can give him the substance.
Speaker 1 I don't know, I'm halfway halfway through that movie. I assume it all works out.
Speaker 1 I'll tell you one Democrat who took it to Trump face to face, the governor of Maine, Janet Mills.
Speaker 1 Last week, Trump held a meeting at the White House where he called her out for refusing to comply with his ban on trans athletes.
Speaker 1 And once he did that, she made it clear that she wasn't going to comply with any of his bullshit.
Speaker 16
The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way. That's good.
But I understand Maine,
Speaker 16 is Maine here, the governor? Maine, my land.
Speaker 7 I'm here.
Speaker 16 Are you not going to comply with it?
Speaker 1 I'm complying with state and federal law.
Speaker 8 Well, we are the federal law.
Speaker 16 Well, you better do it. You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't.
Speaker 16 And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports.
Speaker 11 So
Speaker 16 you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.
Speaker 9 See you in court.
Speaker 16 Every state.
Speaker 11 Good.
Speaker 16
I'll see you in court. I'll look forward to that.
That should be a real easy one.
Speaker 9 Yes!
Speaker 1 Andy Cohen will never make a show just as good as what I just watched.
Speaker 1
That's how you do it. Forget singing, forget dancing.
This is how you confront Trump with tipsy ant energy.
Speaker 1 Define the issues and force the court to pick a side.
Speaker 7 Which side are you going to do?
Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop that, stop that, stop that, get it out of here, stop.
Speaker 1 For more on the Democratic resistance, let's go to Washington, D.C. with our very own Grace Coolinschmidt.
Speaker 1
Grace, it seems like the governor of Maine has the best strategy here for Democrats, confront Trump and take him to court. Agree to disagree, Desi.
I think the other lady had the better idea.
Speaker 1 Democrats need to f ⁇ Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 F him real good.
Speaker 1
I don't think that was actually an idea. I think she just accidentally misspoke.
A lot of great ideas come from accidents. Silly putty, super glue, the Titanic movie.
Speaker 1 Grace, no,
Speaker 1 this is not a real idea. How is fing Trump gonna work?
Speaker 9 Oh, well,
Speaker 1
a penis will go into the vagina. No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, I mean, like, how would Democrats do that?
Speaker 9 Of course.
Speaker 1 Come on, you know, girl on top, guy on top, reverse cowgirl, the octopus. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 I know how to do that. Wait, what is the octopus? You need an above-ground pool and four people.
Speaker 1 Or...
Speaker 1
Or one person with a lot of arms. Okay, forget it.
But why would having sex with Trump be a good strategy? Think of all this guy's pent-up anger, his terrible decision-making, his frantic energy.
Speaker 1 He's got blue balls of the brain.
Speaker 1 Think of it like a volcano. If you don't jack off the mountain every so often, it'll explode and wipe out an Italian village.
Speaker 1 That's science desi.
Speaker 1 Grace, that's not how volcanoes or the male body works.
Speaker 12 Yes, it is.
Speaker 13 But
Speaker 5 maybe
Speaker 1 if the Democrats f him so good, he'll get that post-nut clarity. He'll be like,
Speaker 1 wait, why am I cutting funding to stop Ebola? And what is Elon doing here? I hate this guy.
Speaker 1
No, Grace, come on. There are better ways to stop Trump than an orgy.
Okay, I didn't say orgy,
Speaker 1 but I like it.
Speaker 5 You're a freak.
Speaker 1
Look, it's not like anything else has worked. Voting didn't work.
Indicting him didn't work. They even lost the election after getting an endorsement from America sweetheart Liz Cheney.
Speaker 1 The only option left is to run out the clock four to seven minutes at a time.
Speaker 1 That seems very ambitious. Fine, three to five minutes at a time.
Speaker 1 Face it, Desi, you want Demps to take action? They got to give Trump some action. You want Dems to stop jerking off and get to work? They got to get to work, jerking him off.
Speaker 1
You want Demps to not blow at their jobs? Yeah, no, I get it. I get where you're going.
I get it.
Speaker 1 I bet you get it, you sex monster.
Speaker 1 But if this isn't the strategy, I literally don't know what is. Well, they could just embrace a younger generation who can clearly make the case for a pro-worker, progressive America.
Speaker 1 No, I think you were right. Your group fest idea is the only option.
Speaker 7 No, no, no, no, great.
Speaker 1 That wasn't my idea.
Speaker 1 Forget it. Grace Cole and Schmidt, everybody.
Speaker 1 When we come back, we have a very magical active three months to go for a while.
Speaker 1 Welcome back to The Daily Show. February is Black History Month, but has the Trump administration changed the way we commemorate it? Josh Johnson hit the streets to find out.
Speaker 14 What up, world? It's Josh Johnson, and it's also Black History Month.
Speaker 14 Except this year, Trump is back in the White House, and any mention of anything diverse, equitable, or inclusive, aka black, is absolutely taboo.
Speaker 14 So I'm out here to see if we can find some people to help us celebrate the new
Speaker 14 history month.
Speaker 13 Said it.
Speaker 17 Can you hit me with the story of Martin Luther King Jr.
Speaker 14 without saying stuff like
Speaker 14 sorry, section
Speaker 14 is a tough one.
Speaker 1 Okay, so he was a
Speaker 7 leader of the
Speaker 5 at the time.
Speaker 7 Shy away from that one. I mean, a
Speaker 14 is gonna get people asking questions. Okay, tell me the story in a few sentences of Rosa Parks without saying stuff like
Speaker 7 woman
Speaker 7 just hired.
Speaker 12 She was a woman
Speaker 12 in a time
Speaker 12 who needed transportation
Speaker 12 and she was unable to take the transportation she deserved in the
Speaker 6 seat.
Speaker 13 Yeah, you can say seat.
Speaker 9 In the seat she deserved.
Speaker 14 Can you tell me about Frederick Douglass without saying?
Speaker 18 I know he was it was
Speaker 18 Tupac who learned the most out of Frederick Douglass it was inspiration through Frederick Douglass and what he did in his time that informed Tupac to inform himself on the law but people didn't know that you hit me with something I had never thought about before which is that Frederick Douglass gave us Tupac in a sense
Speaker 14 which I did not see coming. Why do you think some people are so against the kitchen?
Speaker 13 Oh, some people are just posterior orifices.
Speaker 13 I don't understand that concept.
Speaker 14
Yeah. But I guess they have some issues.
More therapy required.
Speaker 7 Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7 So, if the only thing a person has going for them is the fact that they're white, then they're going to cling to that.
Speaker 14 While I agree with everything you said, it's probably one of the worst things you could have hit on.
Speaker 14 Okay.
Speaker 14 Gonna pull you aside right here for a quick sidebar. sidebar now
Speaker 17 are there any
Speaker 14 meetings that i'm not aware of that we're like getting together and going over malcolm x you could go to a lauren hill concert wait for her not to show up and then talk to people at that concert okay all right i'd appreciate you playing absolutely and you know what because you did such a great job sure i do have a prize for you okay you won a harriet tubman 20.
Speaker 14 oh something like that i have for both of you oh my god a Harriet Tubman 20.
Speaker 14 Maybe, you know, one day you can use those Tubmans to buy
Speaker 14 something
Speaker 12 Beyonce tickets. Beyonce tickets, yeah.
Speaker 14 Beyonce tickets would be great.
Speaker 14 It would take a substantial amount of Tubmans to get Beyoncé tickets, but in a better world.
Speaker 14 Davey Josh, when we come back, Gabrielle Union will be joining me on the show, so don't go away.
Speaker 14 Welcome back to The Daily Show.
Speaker 1 My guest tonight is an actor, producer, and entrepreneur who stars in the new movie Riff Rath. Please welcome Gabrielle Union.
Speaker 9 Excited to see you, as am I.
Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. So happy you're here.
Speaker 6 That was awesome. Thank you guys.
Speaker 13 Yeah. Life is good.
Speaker 13 Wow.
Speaker 1
So happy that you're here. Congratulations on the movie.
Thank you. It's so much fun.
You're incredible in it. And truth be told, there are a lot of of great
Speaker 1 tips on how to commit crimes in this movie.
Speaker 6
So many. To get away with it.
So many. Well, not to get away with it, but yeah.
Speaker 6
Almost. Almost.
So close.
Speaker 1 Spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 The cast is incredible.
Speaker 6 It's insane.
Speaker 1 You, Bill Murray, Ed Harris, Jennifer Coolidge, who you saw in the clip, Pete Davidson.
Speaker 6 I mean... Lewis Pullman.
Speaker 1 Lewis Pullman. I mean,
Speaker 6
no, I, and I, I was, you know, a little intimidated. Initially, I think it was the third third person to sign on.
It was Jennifer, who's the star and the icon, who's also the executive producer.
Speaker 6 And then it was Ed Harris. And they're like, you would be Ed Harris's love interest.
Speaker 9 I said, well.
Speaker 9 If you would.
Speaker 6 It's all the right stuff.
Speaker 6
Yeah, yes, please. That's all it took.
That's all it really, it really is all it took.
Speaker 1
And I read that you all filmed everything in 22 days. Yes.
Is that true? And mostly in one one location.
Speaker 6
Yes. The vast majority of the movie was in one location, which was the house that you see in the film, which is a little smaller than it appears.
Uh-huh.
Speaker 6 So yeah,
Speaker 6 we had a lot of challenges, like heat.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but you're gonna say, I mean, if you're gonna be stuck in a house for 22 days with a cast, that's not a bad cast to be stuck in a house. It's not a bad cast.
Speaker 6
But there, you know. When do you bring animals to work? Generally, most people are like, does anyone have allergies? And that didn't happen.
And
Speaker 1 there were animals brought to their set.
Speaker 9 Someone brought their dog, right, to set.
Speaker 6 Except one of our cast members, who she's mainly was Pete.
Speaker 6
He is terribly allergic to dogs. Oh, God.
And, you know, it starts with a, you know, when the, oh.
Speaker 6 Yes. And then we're watching him turn into hitch.
Speaker 9 And I was like, oh,
Speaker 7 this is awful.
Speaker 6 Or like people, you know, they think that they're, you know, far enough away from where we're filming that they can eat Doritos. And you know, you are delivering.
Speaker 6 You're like, and this is my Oscar winning performance. And it's like crunch, crunch, crunch.
Speaker 6 We didn't get that winning performance.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God.
Speaker 6 Well,
Speaker 1 I have to say the movie's phenomenal and your work is phenomenal in it. So congratulations on that.
Speaker 1 We have a little something in common. Yes.
Speaker 1
Your first job ever was interning at a modeling agency. Yes.
My first job ever was interning at a modeling agency.
Speaker 1 Yes, but yours blossomed into an incredibly successful modeling career.
Speaker 6
Can we share it? Incredibly successful? I don't, let's see. Yep.
Look at that.
Speaker 6 I mean, Naomi Campbell was clearly shaking in her boots.
Speaker 1 I mean, you absolutely adorable. And you had a booming modeling career at that time.
Speaker 6 Sure, that was 1-800 dentist.
Speaker 6 But it paid.
Speaker 9 Well, did it?
Speaker 6 I think it was like $120 a day. And I was like, oh, I'm rich.
Speaker 6 And then you pay 20% and the taxes and the whatnot. And I was like, so I have $6.
Speaker 6 But you would do those like industrials
Speaker 6 where they're like, wear this headset, right? For $100 and whatever a day. And then later when I, you know, started, you know.
Speaker 6
Getting a little bigger in Hollywood. Oh, they brought that.
They brought it out because it's cheap, cheap photos. And now I'm the lady in the OnStar
Speaker 6 You know thing when you you buy your car and it's like hello I'm with on star and it's me with the damn headset on oh my god like I'm like promoting this but it was just you know well back when we're broke you do these damn of course you sign up and you're young and you don't know any better I don't I don't want to flex okay but
Speaker 1 I I too had a little bit of a modeling career
Speaker 1 many years ago so DPM do you have a picture
Speaker 9 yeah
Speaker 14 it's the it's the double loop not everyone would have done the double loop.
Speaker 12 No, it's the double loop.
Speaker 6
I did the double loop. It's the double.
It's like the sunglasses like I used to do Montgomery Wards. All the biggest department stores
Speaker 6 for their big Memorial Day weekend double spread. And I,
Speaker 1
yeah. Oh, yeah.
You know that, oh, just so organic. Yeah.
Yeah, my modeling career started and ended with that photo.
Speaker 1 Basically.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Same, same, same, same.
Speaker 1 I am so impressed. You are incredibly outspoken about the deep inequalities that exist in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 1 What does progress look like to you?
Speaker 6 I mean, when you move beyond representation, representation is step one, when there's a billion steps.
Speaker 6
I don't want a seat at a crappy table. That just means I'm covered in crap.
Like,
Speaker 6 I want real,
Speaker 6
the power to actually elicit change. Right.
You know what I mean? And that doesn't come
Speaker 6 with
Speaker 6 step one, like you have to actually be uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 So when I, you know, started producing and I was putting together projects, you know, and, you know, when the rubber hits the road, they're like, well, are you willing to give up money to make sure such and such is paid?
Speaker 6 I was like, yeah, I am.
Speaker 6 I am.
Speaker 6 And
Speaker 6 you.
Speaker 6 You have to be willing to do the right thing, even if it makes you uncomfortable or even if it doesn't actively benefit you. Because real equality and real liberation is what benefits all of us.
Speaker 6 And you have to be committed to that.
Speaker 1
I wish more producers were like you. That's what separates you from a lot of people.
And it's proven to be wildly successful.
Speaker 1 When you were starting your producing career, you talked about an experience that happened on the set of Deliver Us from Eva that changed the way that you looked at producing from that point forward.
Speaker 1 What was that?
Speaker 6 So we were in the hair and makeup trailer, and it was me and LL
Speaker 6 Cool J.
Speaker 1 They are familiar.
Speaker 6 And I, you know, I'm very Scorpio and I like to, I like to argue and I like to be right more than anything. And people are like, do you want to be right
Speaker 6 or do you, or, or do you want, you know, do you want love?
Speaker 9 And I was like, to be right.
Speaker 7 I feel loved if I'm right.
Speaker 6 So we were having a little argument back and forth, but the time is a ticking, right? And you're thinking,
Speaker 6 this is the most important thing, right? End of the day, I've sort of forgotten about the little debate that we were having.
Speaker 6 And I overhear one of the crew guys say, well, now I'm not going to make it to my daughter's
Speaker 6 event.
Speaker 6 And you start to realize no one person is bigger than anyone else. It takes every single one of us
Speaker 6 to make this.
Speaker 6 And
Speaker 6 all of our time is important.
Speaker 6 And when you start thinking that your time is more important than someone else's, you've lost the plot.
Speaker 6 And so I vowed that if I ever became a producer, that I would make sure that everyone's time was respected and everyone understood that no no one person is more important than anyone else. Yeah.
Speaker 6 I love that story.
Speaker 1 That impacts, and when it's, it starts at the top, you know, when you set the pace when you're on set, when you're producing something, or you're number one on the call sheet, you set the pace for everyone else.
Speaker 6 No, absolutely. But you have to be willing to, like, you know,
Speaker 6 there was a gig and
Speaker 6 studio that shall remain nameless. They didn't want to give this woman who has been nominated for Oscars,
Speaker 6 multiple, an executive producer credit, which she deserved. We all worked on this project, and they were like,
Speaker 6 this is good enough for her.
Speaker 6 And I said, well, it's not good enough for me. I'll give up mine.
Speaker 6
I don't have what she has. I'm not bringing the same gravitas to this project.
And you have to be able to take a stand.
Speaker 6 And if that means giving up some of your salary or giving up some of your producer fee or just making sure that people are getting paid or they like the food, that is part of our responsibility.
Speaker 6 I do believe I am my brother and sister's keeper. We all have to have that mentality.
Speaker 1 I want to talk about your daughter, Zaya, who was honored at the Out 100 event last year for her trailblazing in the queer community.
Speaker 1 What does it feel like as a parent to watch your daughter be so fearless in advocating for rights, especially right now in this moment in time when there's so much
Speaker 1 oppression, hate, fill-in-the-blank from this administration.
Speaker 6 It's scary,
Speaker 6 and I am in awe constantly of her bravery.
Speaker 6 But, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 6 you know, like, I'm pumped, you know, in the same way that we would cheer for, you know, our son Zaire's first dunk, I was like, ooh, get him.
Speaker 6 The way she stands up for herself and the way she fights just as hard as anyone else whose liberty, whose very existence, whose very humanity is at risk. She puts it all on the line.
Speaker 6 She is 10 toes down and she doesn't back up, back off for anybody. It doesn't matter if you hold the highest seat in
Speaker 6 our country or you're Elon Musk, or maybe
Speaker 13 those are interchangeable.
Speaker 6 She is about not only her liberation, but everyone's liberation.
Speaker 6 Because when you start to barter with whole communities and you let them in the door, they're in the house, they're coming for everybody. Did no one watch Handmaid's Tale?
Speaker 6
It's coming. So you have to fight and she's a fighter.
And so I'm proud I raised fighters and I'm happy about that. Well she has
Speaker 1
she has an excellent example in you to look up to as a mama. So I'm so happy you're on.
Congratulations on everything.
Speaker 13
Thank you for being here. Thank you.
Thank you. Riff Ross is a fighter.
Speaker 13 Gabrielle Union, everybody. We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 15 End of the day, Doge is going to help there.
Speaker 15
Pete Heckset has welcomed Doge to come into the military. We have to start in the Pentagon.
We need to make a trigon, three sides instead of five five sides in the Pentagon.
Speaker 15 It is way too big, way overbloated.
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