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Speaker 11 I am delighted to see this face again so soon. I hope that she comes around all the time.
Elle Duncan, someone at ESPN that Zaslow is not feuding with and has never said anything bad about.

Speaker 11 I wanted to talk to her because I have been negligent in this first hour of, like,

Speaker 11 this was a bit of a devastating injury last night. I mean, not a bit of, like, when

Speaker 11 everyone's watching the sport and the best player in it, Juju Watkins, goes down with a knee injury and gets carried off the court.

Speaker 11 March Madness becomes like, oh,

Speaker 11 how am I supposed to talk about and feel about all that? That just stinks. That's just a body breaking down.
And I wanted to watch her win everything because I know she can.

Speaker 11 So anyways, Elle, thank you for being on with us. And yeah, the heartbreak in that.

Speaker 11 How did that go down last night?

Speaker 19 Well, it was really brutal.

Speaker 19 Probably TMI, but I was in the bathroom. And, you know, I'm still wearing my IFB.
We do have to take pee breaks.

Speaker 19 And I had my IFB in

Speaker 19 and I thought I lost the broadcast because it was silent. And I was like, what's going on? And then all of a sudden I started getting text messages.
I'm like trying to furiously wash my hands.

Speaker 19 My producer's like, get back to the studio. Juju just went down.
It's bad. It looks really bad.
And I was like, what? And so I run into the studio.

Speaker 19 And you guys, the studio, which is normally, you know, especially with Shanae and Andrea, is so joyful, so loud. Like we're yelling, we're reacting.
It matched the silence of the Galen Center.

Speaker 19 It was like everyone was just sort of in a little bit of disbelief.

Speaker 19 From what we do, from a professional level, it's devastating because it's Juju Watkins because we wanted this Elite Eight matchup rematch with Yukon.

Speaker 19 Because to your point, like she's going to be the national player of the year and they're ahead of schedule.

Speaker 19 On a personal level, it's devastating because of everything that Juju's given to the game, how hard she's worked choosing to go to a USC program that a lot of people scratch their head. Like, why?

Speaker 19 They haven't been relevant since Lisa Leslie. And she strapped her city on her back.
Like she made LA a basketball town again.

Speaker 19 And she, just to see that happen in the way that it happened, to see someone who is so famously unemotional, like she puts up a 30-piece, no emotion. Like

Speaker 19 to see her screaming in pain and writhing on the ground, it was horrific and devastating. And it absolutely changed the entire tenor of the tournament.
It did.

Speaker 11 Okay, so you're offering a lot of context there that I want to follow up on because of how this story hurts. The connection specifically to USC, walk us through the history of all of that,

Speaker 11 culturally, generationally, what that program means to those people and what it means to have this player,

Speaker 11 this hope go down like that.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I mean, she has like a giant, she has a giant mural in the city of LA.

Speaker 19 When she chose USC, she actually on her signing day or her announcement day, whatever you call it, she actually came on Sports Center and talked to me.

Speaker 19 And I've, in a very soft way, kind of asked her that same thing that I just said, which is like, okay, I mean, I get it. You're from LA, but like, you're the number one prospect in the country.

Speaker 19 Everyone wanted you. Why not go team up with a Yukon? Why not go to South Carolina?

Speaker 19 And she was so adamant that her entire goal was to, in her own backyard, make basketball relevant again, to make that USC program a powerhouse like it was in the early 90s before she was born.

Speaker 19 You know, like she wasn't born when Lisa Leslie was doing what she was doing at USC.

Speaker 19 And when we talked with Lindsey Gottlieb last year at the Final Four after they lost to UConn in the Elite A, I was like, I know that you knew Juju was a prize, but did you know that she would get your program here this quickly?

Speaker 19 And she was like, no, I didn't know it would happen so fast. You know, like she thought it would take some time and maybe some transfers that would get them there.

Speaker 19 And she has made, like, I've talked to LA friends who are like, LA is buzzing with basketball at a college level, right?

Speaker 19 You're always going to have the Lakers and sometimes the Clippers, but at a college level, like with UCLA being a powerhouse again and with USC and Juju, she's the face of basketball. And she is.

Speaker 19 She has strapped that city on her back and they love her so much for everything that she's done. I mean, USC has become, you know, the place to go watch games.
We see every super megastar.

Speaker 19 We just saw Jaden Daniels there. It's just incredibly disappointed to see it go down like this.

Speaker 19 You know, you lose on the court, you get out battled, fine, but like to see their chances suffer greatly because of what happened is just, it just sucks. I can't come up with a better way to say that.

Speaker 11 I believe that's a good way to clip that there. It just sucks.
I can't come up with a better way to say that. And then she cuts out.
But that, I mean, that's a good way to describe it.

Speaker 11 We could use a lot of words, but those two work.

Speaker 21 Yeah, Elle, you talked about

Speaker 21 USC's chances. I want to get to that in a second because they are still a one seed.
And Kiki Iria Fen obviously is one of the best post-players in the country.

Speaker 21 And she had a really great game after Juju went out last night. But this is unfortunately such a common thing in women's sports to see knee injuries.

Speaker 21 It's happened to other great players right before the tournament. Liz Kitley comes to mind, Olivia Miles, obviously, and it really impacted both of those teams' chances of winning a national title.

Speaker 21 What do you think will happen next?

Speaker 21 I mean, there's obviously a tough matchup in this week 16 round for USC now against a really good Kansas State team that just got some of their players back from health stuff.

Speaker 21 So do you still see them making a deep tournament run?

Speaker 19 So, I do think they can beat K-State. We talked about this yesterday.
Like, what does this USC team look like without Juju? Because they haven't had to experience that. She averages 35 minutes a game.

Speaker 19 So, they basically play five minutes a game without her. And so, I do think it's going to force, I mean, listen, it's still USC.

Speaker 19 Like, they still have Talia Van Olhoffen, who transferred there, Kiki Iria Fenn, who you mentioned had a career high. And

Speaker 19 I do think that there was definitely a galvanizing sort of moment for them yesterday.

Speaker 19 and having her back. We heard Lindsay Gottlieb talk about that.

Speaker 19 But ultimately, like, to be honest with you, Jess, like, I didn't think that USC was going to get past UConn with Juju, just because, like, if you've watched UConn play the last two games, like, I'm not sure anybody's going to beat UConn if they keep playing that way.

Speaker 19 But I do see them getting to an elite eight. It just obviously changes.
the entire scope of that matchup if Juju's not in it.

Speaker 19 They're going to have to lean on everybody else, but she's going to be National Player of the Year for a reason. And we saw what happened for UConn when Paige was out.

Speaker 19 I do think really quickly too, though, like life sometimes is really interesting.

Speaker 19 The ironic symmetry of on a day that Paige Beckers played her last game in stores and tied a career high after what she's been through and her devastating injuries too, that we then see the same exact thing happen to Juju.

Speaker 19 Like it just, I hope that that is in some way inspiration for Juju, that you can suffer these really great setbacks, but then you can come back better than ever.

Speaker 19 I mean, Paige hasn't missed a beat and she's going to be the number one overall pick, but it's, you know,

Speaker 19 I don't see them making it past UConn. Either way, honestly.

Speaker 21 I was about to say the same thing, actually.

Speaker 21 Going from Paige giving the interview at Instores and then Gino talking about Paige's legacy, and then it happened like five minutes into the next game.

Speaker 21 It was the last game of the second round. It was really kind of strange to see.
So, I mean, obviously it's still early.

Speaker 21 We don't exactly know the nature of the injury, but like, you would say we probably will see Juju Watkins back 2026, 2027 season?

Speaker 19 Um, yeah, well, I mean, again, it really just depends, right? Like, uh, for Paige Beckers, when she tore the meniscus in her knee, it was in the summer.

Speaker 19 And so she did miss that entire season because of it. I don't know how USC is going to play it.

Speaker 19 Um, you know, if there is any blessing, it's that it happened in early March and maybe not in the summer as they were doing their off-season training.

Speaker 19 I don't know if you say, let's medical redshirt her, right? Like, she's only 19 years old. She's not eligible to go to the WNBA draft until she's 22 years old anyway.
So I don't know.

Speaker 19 You certainly don't want to cause any long-term damage for someone who we believe is going to be one of the greatest players of all time if she projects the way that she is now.

Speaker 19 But yes, I would say the getting used to a life potentially without Juju next season would be, that would be, you know, that would be a fair assessment.

Speaker 11 I'm wondering, and I don't know if this is overly simplistic, but

Speaker 11 or reactionary because of whatever the emotion of the moment is,

Speaker 11 but what level of unsatisfying is this going forward or what needs to happen in terms of storylines to take the pall off of what had felt like a giant celebration and a coronation at a time where we know more of the women players than we do the men.

Speaker 11 in college basketball.

Speaker 19 It's true. I tried to say this to someone last night.
I was like, imagine if on the men's side, if they lost Cooper Flag in the same way, right?

Speaker 19 Like it would change the enthusiasm for the tournament in some way.

Speaker 19 The good news for us is that while Juju is one of the faces of women's basketball and will be national player of the year, we do still have really great storylines.

Speaker 19 We have Notre Dame, who has the best backcourt in the country,

Speaker 19 finally sort of figuring it out and rounding into form. We have TCU.
Haley Van List's story is amazing. TCU's story is amazing.
I know they're not like a major

Speaker 19 open.

Speaker 19 They couldn't even field a roster. They were horrible.
And now they're headed to their first Sweet 16. And people made fun of Haley for choosing TCU, like, wow, that's great.

Speaker 19 What a basketball powerhouse. And to see her story, like, that's still a story.
We still have South Carolina, right?

Speaker 19 Like trying to go for, to be back-to-back champs for the first time since UConn did it.

Speaker 19 And then we still have UCLA, like, who is a huge program. Again, sort of a return to prominence, a return to glory, if you will, looking looking for their first Final Four.

Speaker 19 So if there is any blessing, it's that this happened last night.

Speaker 19 It gives us a few days to compartmentalize and process, and then we sort of get to look ahead to the Sweet 16, which is still rife with storylines.

Speaker 19 Yes, like, did I want an Elite Eight that was going to put up enormous numbers personally as someone that like benefits from that at ESPN? Yes, but we do still have a lot of meat on that bone.

Speaker 11 I would like to, Elle, because I remember when soon after we met, you had mentioned that

Speaker 11 you loved my brother's artwork and that you loved what I did with my father. And we did CONO on Highly Questionable.
And I'm just wondering if I can get you to play with us the game in honor of CO No,

Speaker 11 L Yes or L No.

Speaker 16 L Yes.

Speaker 11 Okay, you're going to, okay, so

Speaker 22 you know I'll upload my name, Dave.

Speaker 19 You know I love the Pun My Name.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but you didn't print, you didn't even play it right off the top. If I said L yes or L no, you can't say hell yeah.
It's got to be L Yes.

Speaker 8 Hell yeah. Thank you.

Speaker 11 There it is.

Speaker 16 All right.

Speaker 11 L yes or L no ripped jeans.

Speaker 19 Ooh, I actually do like ripped jeans. I'm into them.
Like my kids have ripped jeans. I think they look cool.

Speaker 11 So, how do you play the game?

Speaker 21 L yes to

Speaker 21 the yellow pants that L was wearing the other day that I texted her about. L, those were phenomenal pants.

Speaker 19 Thank you. They're very bright.

Speaker 23 But I love them.

Speaker 11 You guys aren't playing the game correctly.

Speaker 21 I just said L yes to her yellow pants.

Speaker 9 L-O-S.

Speaker 23 L-Yes or L-no to women empowerment.

Speaker 19 L-Yes.

Speaker 23 I feel like it's a no-brainer.

Speaker 11 Okay, excellent work. Playing the game in the middle.

Speaker 23 But L-no to Billy.

Speaker 11 It's got to be right on the line.

Speaker 17 It can't.

Speaker 16 It can't. I mean,

Speaker 11 L yes or L no to racism.

Speaker 24 Like,

Speaker 24 I mean, what are you doing?

Speaker 17 Dan, L no.

Speaker 19 Come on, Dan.

Speaker 22 Oh, I'm so.

Speaker 19 I don't know lately in this country.

Speaker 16 I don't know.

Speaker 19 Kind of up for debate.

Speaker 11 Not putting your cart back in the cart corral at the grocery store. L yes or L no?

Speaker 19 L no. It requires no work.
It's so rude. Like you're potentially damaging people's cars.
Just you've been walking around a grocery store. What is it? I live in Connecticut.
It's freezing.

Speaker 19 It's like three degrees. And I will still take it to the thing or I'll take it to the front.
Like that's so rude and not considerate for everybody else.

Speaker 11 Irish goodbye. L yes or L no?

Speaker 19 L yes.

Speaker 19 Come on. Like, I've reached the age where I'm like, do I need to say bye to everyone in the room and make it a whole production? And no, I'm just going to ghost you.

Speaker 11 Bringing a Bluetooth speaker to the gym and playing your music out loud. L yes or L no.

Speaker 19 Okay, as someone that literally carries my little JBL speaker everywhere she goes and forces people to listen to my music, I'm still a hard L no because people need different things when they work out and it's not necessarily your trap music.

Speaker 11 Signing your emails, cheers.

Speaker 11 L yes or L no?

Speaker 19 L no. Although the the email sign-off gives me a lot of anxiety.
I never, you know, sincerely or appreciate you or I just kind of do a thanks, but L no to the cheers.

Speaker 11 Sending your food back at a restaurant, L yes or L no?

Speaker 19 L no.

Speaker 19 I've worked at too many restaurants. I know what they can do to the food in the back.

Speaker 19 And also, like, apart from having an allergy to it, I went out to eat with a girl one time who sent her burger back because it came with lettuce on it. Take it off and keep it moving.
Like, L no.

Speaker 11 Buying a woman a drink that she didn't ask for. L yes or L no?

Speaker 19 L no. And ladies, don't ever take that drink because you don't know what's in it.
No.

Speaker 17 Dan Hurley.

Speaker 19 As someone that needs people to wild the out for my job, L yes to Dan Hurley and all of the many personalities he has.

Speaker 11 Oh, I trapped you.

Speaker 11 I think I trapped you.

Speaker 21 L yes or L no to LSU upsetting NC State?

Speaker 19 Tricked her. I'll say L yes.

Speaker 19 I'll say, oh, that's tough. I'll say L yes just because they have the experience of being there before, so does NC State, obviously.
But I put their big three probably above NC State's.

Speaker 8 L yes or L no, Jimmy Butler sticks it to the heat tonight.

Speaker 19 Ooh, L Yes.

Speaker 19 Yeah,

Speaker 19 L yes. I think he's going to have his Haley Van Lith game, you know, where he's just like, you didn't want me.
I see it.

Speaker 10 L yes or L no to traveling with your own bar of soap in a container.

Speaker 19 Yeah, L no. Again, unless you have like some kind of severe and sensitive skin thing.
When you put the soap in the container, after it gets wet, it becomes a disgusting petri dish of smush.

Speaker 19 Just use the.

Speaker 22 No, use the soap at the hotel.

Speaker 19 They're fine. Like, it's fine.

Speaker 16 Elle, like,

Speaker 8 I want my soap.

Speaker 7 All right.

Speaker 8 I like my brand of soap. I don't want to rely on the hotel that, that, that I get set up in in Norman, Oklahoma or in Athens, Georgia.

Speaker 22 I want my soap.

Speaker 26 I bring a soap dish.

Speaker 19 What's your soap? Like, what's your soap?

Speaker 26 It's one my wife buys for me.

Speaker 19 Okay. Well, unless it's some kind of fancy soap, it's not any better than the crap they have at the hotel, guaranteed.

Speaker 11 The reason I said I trapped you is because you love the content of Hurley. And so I leave you with this.

Speaker 11 Okay. L yes or L no Mulkey.

Speaker 11 Gotcha.

Speaker 16 Gotcha.

Speaker 19 You completely trapped me.

Speaker 19 I'll say same thing. I like all of the histrionics and she's so memeable and, you know, she's unapologetically herself.
So I guess, you know, L Yes to all of them.

Speaker 24 You're gonna separate it, you're gonna separate her personality and her.

Speaker 22 I'm gonna see her at the final four, Dan.

Speaker 19 It's so

Speaker 19 Dan Hurley, so yeah, L yes, I love it.

Speaker 11 Okay, no, it's I did something unfair to her, but I'm actually curious how she navigates the labyrinth in these political times as someone who has strong opinions.

Speaker 17 She doesn't navigate.

Speaker 11 Well, no, I mean, yeah, like, but the monkey thing is hard because you can respect her and also like be wildly put off by a lot of other things she does.

Speaker 19 Yeah. I would say that, yes, there is, uh, I have a great respect for her as a coach and also as a former player.
And she gets the best out of her girls. And, you know, I, I never played for her.

Speaker 19 Um, if you were to believe a lot of the things that came out, that's problematic. But ultimately, like, I don't know her personally.
I do think that,

Speaker 19 you know, she's a historic type of figure in this sport. So, um, and I love, I love LSU.
Like, I love her girls. So it's also hard for me because I think, you know, they love her and I love them.

Speaker 19 So by proxy,

Speaker 19 sure, yeah. But you do, like you have to compartmentalize.
And that can be, you know,

Speaker 19 I don't know her well enough to like make a snap judgment on her, but just based on some of the things, like, yeah, that feels. That feels, I had someone say that to me the other day.

Speaker 19 They were like, you picked Florida to win. I was like, yeah, because I don't know anything about men's basketball.
I don't really watch. And

Speaker 19 they were like, oh, you know, their coach. I was like, what about their coach? You know, and they were just, they were like, yeah, there's, there's some, there's some headlines.

Speaker 19 So I googled and I was like, should I have chosen? You know, but like, ultimately, I think they're a really good team. So that's kind of the journey.

Speaker 20 L yes or L no, the dap that Mulkie gave that guy that one time coming out of the huddle.

Speaker 19 The dap. Does that you talking about the clipboard or the real dap?

Speaker 20 No, no, I'm talking about the real dap where she's walking out of the tunnel and there was a guy there and she daps him up like very nicely.

Speaker 4 L yes or no? Yeah.

Speaker 19 I mean, I'm into that.

Speaker 16 I really appreciate it.

Speaker 11 No, he ruined the game. He ruined the game.

Speaker 11 She has not seen the dap.

Speaker 17 I know. It tells me she hasn't seen the dap.
I know, but.

Speaker 16 I haven't.

Speaker 17 I know.

Speaker 19 Was it an aggressive dap? I haven't.

Speaker 23 No, we need the video team to pull it up so you can see.

Speaker 11 But that would have been good.

Speaker 20 But, Dan, she covers the league.

Speaker 23 Now, have you seen Tony?

Speaker 13 I mean,

Speaker 19 I don't consume everything that happens in the league. I do have three other jobs that he has.

Speaker 17 I pull up something that's classic from Kim Mulky.

Speaker 23 All of a sudden, nobody knows.

Speaker 11 Tone, don't get defensive here, Tone. It's crazy.
Tone, I need you to go to the penalty box and just sit there.

Speaker 21 How about L no for Tony? He's on my shit listening.

Speaker 11 Like, Tony, Jesus. Like, go ahead.

Speaker 28 Have you seen it, Dan?

Speaker 17 Tone?

Speaker 11 Tone.

Speaker 21 Are you saying tone or like tone? Like, Tony.

Speaker 17 I can't.

Speaker 21 Honestly, I wasn't.

Speaker 22 He's doing that thing.

Speaker 19 I feel like Jess can feel me on this. He's doing that thing when, like, a dude at the bar finds out you do sports for a living and then he's like, oh, yeah, who won the 1937 Home Run Derby?

Speaker 26 No, Tony would never do that.

Speaker 16 No, baby, ever. Tony.

Speaker 11 Tony, you don't know.

Speaker 10 He said oh no to women's empowerment earlier.

Speaker 16 He did.

Speaker 16 God, man.

Speaker 21 And he hates my dog all of a sudden. I don't know why.
He's on my shit list. I don't have time for him this week.

Speaker 17 It's, it's,

Speaker 8 L was on fire there.

Speaker 11 We were soaring into the sky. And Tony decided at the very end to throw the ball off her face.

Speaker 11 Just by, hey, Elle, try and pretend that you've seen this thing I'm talking about.

Speaker 11 Elle, I'm sorry it ended that way. I will try to raise better broadcast professionals.

Speaker 19 Okay. We definitely ended on a high note.
Can you just give me like one more for shits and giggles so that we can end on our high note?

Speaker 17 Because he ruined it so much.

Speaker 21 Okay, L, yes or L no. Me bringing my dog to work that everyone loves.

Speaker 27 Oh,

Speaker 16 hell yeah.

Speaker 19 So long as it's not a grocery store. You don't work at a grocery store, right?

Speaker 4 You'll never get it. You're right.

Speaker 21 This is not a grocery store. Then we're good.
Although someone should tell Gino and Jason that.

Speaker 11 Elle, good seeing you. Thank you for being on with us.
Always delightful.

Speaker 19 Please have me back. Love you guys.
You're the best.

Speaker 11 Thank you.

Speaker 11 Let's get to our sound.

Speaker 21 I feel really bad for doing that.

Speaker 11 Tournament. Why?

Speaker 21 I normally don't pick on Jason and Gino. I just had, just, I feel bad.

Speaker 10 And everybody out there laughing, man.

Speaker 11 I can hear the laughter through the walls, and you feel like you've bullied them. And I can hear people laugh.
I can hear people.

Speaker 21 I mean, it was a funny joke.

Speaker 23 That's all it needs to be.

Speaker 21 If you listen to Mystery Crate, you know.

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Speaker 10 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 10 What happened with Tony?

Speaker 11 Yeah, Billy, I saw that you enjoyed that. You really roared to life there, like I haven't seen since back when you were prohibited from saying things that Zaslow doesn't want to hear.

Speaker 10 I was just trying to get, honestly, us to show Elle a video of Tony's jumper, but I unsuccessfully did that.

Speaker 11 I know.

Speaker 11 Thank you for the help there, but you enjoyed that Tony made that drown. You came to life.
Like when Tony threw that anchor on the proceedings, my God, I haven't seen such life in you in years.

Speaker 10 I feel like he was about to hit us with a real Hooper's No, but we didn't get there.

Speaker 28 Billy. Quick enough.

Speaker 11 Billy loves nothing more than to

Speaker 11 cat. Now I believe that what you love more than your family is seeing Tony fall on his face.

Speaker 17 Oh, here he comes.

Speaker 20 Fall on my face because something that everybody's seen on social media, the six people here haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 Okay, sorry.

Speaker 32 Sorry, that's all right.

Speaker 20 So then why did everybody look at me so stupefied?

Speaker 17 Oh my god, I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 21 Well, it's the kind of thing if you're going to bring up, you have to kind of be sure that the guests

Speaker 21 are exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 28 If you've seen it, you're online.

Speaker 20 If you've seen it, you're online. If everybody's seen it, who's online, I figure the guest who covers the sport, who's also online and sees things about the sport, has seen it before.

Speaker 21 She probably saw it and forgot about it because it wasn't like that big of a deal.

Speaker 20 If I tell you, Kim Mulkie Depp, you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 21 I remember the video.

Speaker 16 Okay, thank you.

Speaker 21 But that doesn't mean that someone that covers the sport for a living, it's probably the 5,000th thing she'd think of which is the first time. You cover the sport also.

Speaker 27 You cover the sports. You're right.

Speaker 10 El Douglas is so dumb.

Speaker 14 Person that's online a lot. Oh, no.

Speaker 32 Like, I don't cover the sport. I remember that.

Speaker 21 Whether you know the dap video or not doesn't mean like you, you're good at covering the sports. Just like you maybe it wasn't memorable to me.
Not what I said. Exactly.

Speaker 14 Not what I said.

Speaker 23 My point is

Speaker 16 that's.

Speaker 8 What are you talking about?

Speaker 20 You were like, she covers the sport. Yeah, because she covers sports, she knows what it is.

Speaker 14 That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 27 Well.

Speaker 4 I feel like we can move on. I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 What other weird things do you do?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, how about I thought Elle was going to back me on that one? As someone who travels a lot, you want your own stuff. I mean, look at this.

Speaker 26 This is sensitive skin.

Speaker 7 I want my own soap.

Speaker 21 This is what happens when you shit on my dog.

Speaker 10 How do you feel about body wash when you go to a hotel?

Speaker 10 I mean, you have your own soap, but like, let's say something happens, heaven forbid, you forget your bar of soap or whatever, and it's one of those body wash pumps that's in the corner, like affixed to the wall.

Speaker 10 That's another thing that's happening now.

Speaker 10 Before you walk in and you have your own little shampoo bottle, your own little conditioner bottle, your own little bar of soap, and you know, you say to yourself, I'm probably never going to use these again, but they're just going to toss them out.

Speaker 10 Let me just take these home in case of a rainy day. I run out of shampoo, conditioner, whatever.
I have the little bottles from the hotel. Now they attach them to the wall.

Speaker 10 You can't even take them home. They're like industrial size.
Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, but I bring my own soap.

Speaker 10 But if something, if something were to happen, heaven forbid something were to happen or

Speaker 10 your soap gets lost or whatever, would you use the body wash? You're not a body wash man.

Speaker 8 As opposed to not using any kind of soap.

Speaker 10 Well, you could go just buy another bar of soap, I suppose.

Speaker 8 Nah, yeah, I'd use what they supply me. Okay.

Speaker 27 Maybe you're right.

Speaker 10 Didn't know if you're strictly a bar man or if you're a body wash man.

Speaker 11 I don't like how defensive Tony was.

Speaker 21 I don't either. Now I feel weird.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 here's the thing, okay? See, Tony's not wrong here, and I know why he feels alone, okay?

Speaker 20 Because nobody helped me? Oh, yeah, of course.

Speaker 27 Tone, you're making it better. Thank you.
Tone.

Speaker 11 I'm doing that on purpose. Yes, fine.

Speaker 11 You don't know whether it's my tone or his tone.

Speaker 20 No, I know when he says tone, I know it's me. I know.

Speaker 18 I need to stop talking.

Speaker 11 No, it's not just that.

Speaker 11 Okay, because we're going to reach into the underbelly of what's been happening around here between you and Billy.

Speaker 10 I have nothing to do with what's going on today. I'm just sitting here talking to Zaz about soap.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 the delight.

Speaker 21 I'm a dove guy.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 4 Scent-free.

Speaker 21 I'm actually allergic to a fragrance called Linalool. Really? Yeah, I found this out last summer.
I did one of those patch tests on my back. And? It's in every product.
Oh.

Speaker 21 I have to go scent-free on like every soap and shampoo and conditioner. Couldn't find a purple shampoo without fragrance in it.

Speaker 10 Your life seems difficult. You can't eat anything.
You can't use certain soaps.

Speaker 21 You're a woman. Oh, Dan's the one that can't eat anything.

Speaker 11 I'm a dove gal the way you are.

Speaker 21 I am just sent free in. I can't have wheat, barley, or rye.

Speaker 11 Tony, this is the part that I found funny about everything that happened there and that was wonderful.

Speaker 11 Truly wonderful, including you being enraged by the fact that you're mentioning something that should be obvious to all of the people in this room, but you got no help and were left by teammates to feel like you were drowning by our ignorance when you're mentioning something that a million people in our audience would have seized on and will now support you because they'd be enraged on your behalf that none of us went and grabbed your alley oop.

Speaker 20 Correct. And I feel it's because it was Kim Mulky.
If it was somebody else, all of a sudden everybody would have jumped in and joined me. But it was Kim Mulkey doing something.

Speaker 4 Everybody's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 7 Are we making this because Kim Mulkey is Kim Mulkey?

Speaker 5 Who spoke first here?

Speaker 13 I don't know.

Speaker 14 Jeremy came out of nowhere.

Speaker 7 Left field didn't say shit.

Speaker 2 Well, Leftfield is right.

Speaker 8 Are you, seriously?

Speaker 1 You're gonna make this political right now?

Speaker 18 Hey, you're making it political, buddy. I don't know.

Speaker 6 You just did it.

Speaker 8 None of us did it.

Speaker 7 We were having a good time laughing at you, and then you made it political.

Speaker 10 I mean, whatever, man. It's fine.

Speaker 2 But like, it's just a video.

Speaker 10 It's okay.

Speaker 4 We were all laughing.

Speaker 10 How do you feel about Zaz, the like shampoo conditioner combo? God, because, like, that's it, can't be both.

Speaker 8 No, uh, this head right here needs special treatment.

Speaker 7 Yeah, rocking any combos.

Speaker 21 Wait, aren't you bald?

Speaker 16 Whoa. No, no, I can't grow hair.

Speaker 8 I shave on. It's my preference.

Speaker 4 I'm asking. I don't know.
I've never seen hair.

Speaker 28 I have hair.

Speaker 8 I shave it. It's not like I can't grow any hair.
I shave it.

Speaker 10 The hypothetical I threw out there earlier was so insulting.

Speaker 17 Emotions are high.

Speaker 16 This Jimmy Butler shit is making everybody crazy.

Speaker 26 How dare you?

Speaker 10 If you could be Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan, who would you be? There's a hypothetical earlier. And I was looked at like I had two heads, like it was the dumbest question in the world.

Speaker 11 Okay, so this is coming back now. You guys are just allowing everything to spill into the show.

Speaker 10 I'm trying to move us.

Speaker 11 No, you're okay. No, I don't want to move along.
Now we're stuck here. Okay, we're going to stay here for a minute.

Speaker 20 Did you finish what you wanted to tell me, by the way?

Speaker 11 No, Tony, I want

Speaker 20 you. You wanted to say something.

Speaker 23 I didn't know.

Speaker 11 Tony, I would like for you to tell us what you think here.

Speaker 27 Trap, don't do it.

Speaker 11 Because you believe, I didn't see this from your vantage point. You believe that that was Mulkey triggered.
I believe that everyone in the room is ignorant to the meme that you're talking about.

Speaker 11 And it makes us, us, all of us, you must have felt alone with something that is. fairly common knowledge.

Speaker 5 Absolutely.

Speaker 20 It's very common knowledge. You see it come across your timeline, whether it be on Instagram, on Reels, on TikTok, and whatever.

Speaker 20 It's Kim Mulkey doing, yes, having an incredible no-look dap with a dude as she's walking into the tunnel waiting to go to a game. And it's an incredible dap by anybody's measure.

Speaker 20 There's a lot of people in this office that don't give good daps.

Speaker 8 And Kim Mulkey gave us sideways

Speaker 4 right here, Billy.

Speaker 4 I'm going to do it.

Speaker 10 No, I mean, you're setting me up. I know I'm not going to do a good job here.

Speaker 28 Okay, and

Speaker 23 you're setting this up because the cyclone makes fun of me.

Speaker 23 Well, Dan.

Speaker 11 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 Just slow everything down here for a second.

Speaker 17 But we have a new game to play.

Speaker 11 I don't want to play that game right now.

Speaker 17 What? I don't want

Speaker 16 to. Or Peter.

Speaker 24 Are you ready, Dan?

Speaker 10 I don't think so. He just left.

Speaker 10 But he's the contestant. Oh, well, we're in trouble, bud.

Speaker 21 Do you think you would be good at this game? I too.

Speaker 8 I am good at this game.

Speaker 2 Well, then it's not fun. Then we should wait for Dan.

Speaker 10 We can do a next segment. Well, he left, so we're here now.

Speaker 9 What do you guys want to talk about? I don't know.

Speaker 10 Is it really that obvious that Michael Jordan is the answer? People were looking at me like, I was crazy.

Speaker 21 People are going off the A, net worth, B, greatest of all time, C, Air Jordan, Nike, like, coolest shoes ever.

Speaker 10 I think a lot of people are going into the HIV.

Speaker 21 Well, I think that's a reason to not be Michael or Magic Johnson, but there's so many reasons why you'd want to be Michael Jordan. That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 But Magic Johnson, to me, looks a lot happier than Michael Jordan.

Speaker 8 I agree with you.

Speaker 10 He seems to be enjoying life a lot more.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Michael Jordan had twins like a few years ago.

Speaker 4 Oh, no.

Speaker 23 Idiot. Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 10 Magic Johnson had his kids and they're all grown now. So now he's living the life.
Oh, Zaslo, that's the dream, right?

Speaker 10 Love kids. Happiest moments of your life.
Can't wait for them to get out of the house. You can go back to enjoying life.

Speaker 8 That's what I'm saying, man. I'm a few years away.

Speaker 4 Really? Almost at the dream.

Speaker 17 I was about to leave the house.

Speaker 26 I'm almost there.

Speaker 23 How close are you?

Speaker 8 From both of them being gone, I am five years away.

Speaker 10 Okay, and what's the tactic? Do you like try to tell them like you really should go away? Like you really got to, if you want to experience life, you should go away to college.

Speaker 10 That's how you'll find yourself. That's how you'll figure it out.
Is that what you're doing? Are you just like annoying them a little bit more to drive them away?

Speaker 8 No, they're going to be ready to go.

Speaker 26 Okay.

Speaker 4 Time is right.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And then it's all about me and my wife in the Zaszlo mansion, just doing what we want.

Speaker 28 When did it change from mansion to manor?

Speaker 7 When do you change? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 I've always had a mansion.

Speaker 20 Oh, because he said Zaszlo Manor.

Speaker 8 No, I mean, I have never been there before.

Speaker 26 Like the Meerkats.

Speaker 28 No, I have

Speaker 28 mansion.

Speaker 27 Okay.

Speaker 10 So support, I'm trying to figure out, is the tactic support or is it annoyance of my children to get them out of the house when the day comes?

Speaker 8 I think support's okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, because I'm trying to set them up in the right place and then they wind up being ready to leave.

Speaker 8 You don't want your child to not, you throw them out there. It's like you open up the card door and say, go ahead, you're free.

Speaker 23 No, they got to be ready.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, that's the thing that I'm wondering, like, is if I push them too far, then they'll rebel against me, and and then maybe that's not the effect that I wanted.

Speaker 10 You know, it's not like we're leaving empowered, we're leaving out of spite, and now let me do something crazy.

Speaker 21 I feel like an important thing here is your kids have to respect you, but you also have to trust them.

Speaker 21 It's a two-way street, right? I don't know. I've never had kids.
I'm just thinking about my own parents.

Speaker 10 My daughters have started calling me by my first name because they think it's hilarious. Oh, that's respectful.

Speaker 10 And I need to really put my foot down on here because they're three in one, and I can lose control very quickly.

Speaker 28 quickly.

Speaker 21 Your one-year-old's like, Billy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, my one-year-old will repeat everything that my three-year-old says. Sometimes they'll say Guillermo to me.

Speaker 8 All right, so respect is something valued in your house.

Speaker 10 They'll say Guillermo Lewis Gill, and I'm like, whoa. Hold on a second.
This is funny and adorable, but we're getting close to the line here.

Speaker 20 So does that treat you like Chris Cody?

Speaker 2 He treats his father, basically, right?

Speaker 10 Well, not that poorly, no.

Speaker 8 Does he call his father Greg?

Speaker 4 He does, Greg always.

Speaker 10 He calls his wife Kyle.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he does call his wife Kyle. That's not her name.

Speaker 8 What do you mean?

Speaker 10 It's not her name. Her name's Christy, not Kyle.

Speaker 8 So why does he call her that?

Speaker 26 Ah, he's an idiot.

Speaker 10 I don't know.

Speaker 10 It's an inside joke that they have, and then every once in a while he'll just call her on the phone, unbeknownst to her, and he'll just say, hey, Kyle, and then ask like a weird question of her.

Speaker 10 And then she'll just be kind of annoyed with him.

Speaker 21 You don't strike me as the disciplined guy in your house.

Speaker 16 Oh, what?

Speaker 10 Yeah, what is that? I'm a disciplinarian. What are you talking about? I run a tight shit.

Speaker 21 I feel like you're the kind of dad that's like, you know, don't call me Billy, but like, you know, like, well, my wife laughs.

Speaker 10 That's the thing is that I'm getting undercut all around. You know,

Speaker 10 we're supposed to be in a relationship here where we support each other, and she constantly sides with these children.

Speaker 8 I'm zero to 60.

Speaker 7 I'm very relaxed.

Speaker 8 If you want me to get involved, there's no middle ground.

Speaker 8 I go right to, you know,

Speaker 8 if you want me to get involved, I'm going to take care of this. You're not going to like the way I take care of it.
It's going to happen fast. You don't do it half-assed.
That's right.

Speaker 23 You're zero to 60. Yep.

Speaker 10 So they go to your wife first.

Speaker 21 I've never seen that from you before.

Speaker 7 See,

Speaker 8 I'm a very relaxed person.

Speaker 8 I'm very nonchalant. I'm easy to be around.
Measured. If you want me to get involved, I'm going to get involved.

Speaker 4 It'll be be quick.

Speaker 21 I was being kind of sarcastic because sometimes you can go from a very relaxed person to

Speaker 4 holiday.

Speaker 8 In real life social settings, I'm a relaxed dude. All right.

Speaker 8 Now, if you want to talk about serious stuff like the Miami Heat or the Florida Panthers, okay, then I'll, you know, I ratchet things up rather quick.

Speaker 7 But around the house, the discipline,

Speaker 7 either I'm chilling.

Speaker 8 Or, hey, I'm going to take care of this lickety split.

Speaker 10 Yeah. And do you ever get a situation where your children will say, I'm going to go tell mom?

Speaker 8 No, no, because I'm... No, they don't do that.
They don't play us against each other like that.

Speaker 21 What's the origin of lickety split?

Speaker 10 I don't know. Look it up.
So my daughters, now that I've been saying stuff, they'll come up to me and it's like, I'm going to go tell mom. And I say, go ahead.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 7 Powerful.

Speaker 10 But it's really a dare that means nothing because usually she sides with them over me. So I'm signing my own death sentence by doing that.

Speaker 21 Okay, so I was right.

Speaker 21 What? Was I not? In what sense? You're not the one doing like the hard discipline of your daughters.

Speaker 10 I try, but I'm constantly undercut. So at a certain point, I'm like, what's the point? Why am I going to be the bad guy? I want to be the good guy.
I want to be the favorite.

Speaker 10 So I will let them get away with certain things that maybe they're more.

Speaker 21 Like what? Calling you Billy? What else do they do?

Speaker 21 They seem like good girls.

Speaker 27 Well,

Speaker 10 we put on a good front. They're really terrors behind the scenes.

Speaker 10 My house is in shambles.

Speaker 21 Not eating their vegetables. Apple doesn't fall far.

Speaker 10 Well, they discover drawing on walls, which is not good.

Speaker 29 Not great at all.

Speaker 26 Tell decorating.

Speaker 10 Well, not the worst. Well,

Speaker 10 this one of the bunch is maybe the rotten apple because she's defiant.

Speaker 10 She'll draw on the wall, and then you say no, and she laughs, and you clean it up, and then you turn around, and in the exact same spot, there's more artwork. Use the Sharpie?

Speaker 10 One of them used the older one, eldest daughter, used a sharpie the first time around. The other one so far has used pencil and things that we can get rid of with a magic eraser, so it's been fine.

Speaker 10 Use chalk one time, sidewalk chalk. I don't know why kids love chalk so much.

Speaker 21 My sister used to eat chalk.

Speaker 10 Chalk can't be good for you. No, it's kind of good.
There's something in there that can't be good for you, chalk. I don't understand how it works.
Can't be good. What?

Speaker 30 It's calcium.

Speaker 10 What does that mean?

Speaker 32 It's made of calcium. Chalk.

Speaker 10 So you can eat it? I mean, technically, yes. I don't think so.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 10 You let your daughter eat chalk?

Speaker 16 No.

Speaker 14 Okay. We have actual food in the house.
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 8 But what if she's low on calcium?

Speaker 10 Yeah, exactly right. What if the doctor says she has a calcium deficiency? You go and you can't get it.

Speaker 26 And that would get her tums.

Speaker 17 Pick up some chalk.

Speaker 10 Well, you can buy tums or you can buy like chalk for like, you know, 15 of them for 99 cents. You break off a little piece, you make it roughly the same size as the pill.
There you go.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but the tums are flavored down the hatch.

Speaker 21 That's true. The tums flavors, they're really innovative.
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 10 And Zazzo will back me up on this. Kids are dumb, okay? You give a kid a pink chalk and you say that's flavored like strawberry, they'll say, I like that.

Speaker 10 You give them one, you say, This one tastes like asparagus, a green one, like, ill yuck. And it's like, dummies, it's chalk.
It's not flavored. What are you talking about? Take your calcium tablets.

Speaker 16 Wow.

Speaker 4 That's why I go to school, Billy.

Speaker 21 Well, that's a good point, Roy.

Speaker 16 Thank you. Thank you, Jess.

Speaker 20 Can I show you guys the video just in case?

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 23 I actually really would love to see it.

Speaker 10 Honestly, in Tony's defense, he was failed on this front because had we seen the video, maybe this would have made sense.

Speaker 20 Yeah, but I was banking on it.

Speaker 23 I want to see it either.

Speaker 21 I could have given a heads up that the video would come up, though. That's a fair.
All right.

Speaker 23 Well, here's the video for the people watching.

Speaker 21 Jeremy doesn't want to watch it because it's Kim Mulkey. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 23 That's right. Just put it on the screen.

Speaker 15 So, again, she's walking out.

Speaker 4 Boom.

Speaker 20 Crazy dap, not even looking. Yeah.

Speaker 32 And in slow motion. And in slow motion.

Speaker 1 She'll probably censor this.

Speaker 13 It's a perfect dap.

Speaker 8 Yeah, see, dap always confuses me because you don't know what the extent of the dap is going to be. And that looks like that was a dap in three parts.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And she nailed it.

Speaker 8 How does she, forget they're not looking. How does she know that, okay, this could be like a three-part dap kind of deal? That's why I get confused with dap.

Speaker 8 I never know how long the dap is going to last.

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