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Accountability plays. I want to leave that here.
You guys can keep that. Andrew Barry has taken a lot of heat recently because of the decision for Deshaun Watson.
And I have to give some credit to Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the team that Mike formerly loved, the Cleveland Browns. We're going to get him back.
You're going to get him back? Oh, we're going to get him back. Jimmy Haslam came out, and it's a rare thing for the owners, and it's funny to juxtapose what Jimmy Haslam did with what Woody Johnson said at the same time, but Jimmy Haslam took responsibility and said the buck stops with them essentially for the trade and signing of Deshaun Watson that hasn't worked out.
The Woody Johnson quote was about the surveys that were done for the NFLPA and Woody Johnson's organization got an F from the players. He essentially said, eh, what that tells me is it's a little bit fishy.
I don't remember the exact terminology, but he said that it was kind of like – Totally bogus. Yeah, he said it's totally bogus rather than doing what's apparently,

although there's some reason to argue that Jimmy Haslam is not a stand-up guy,

in this situation, he stood up and said, that's on me.

But he didn't let his wife off the hook.

So that's on me.

Indeed.

I guess it's one thing to say that he took accountability, which he did,

but he took accountability for Deshaun Watson not being good. That's essentially what he's apologizing for.
To me, when I quit the Browns, I didn't give a shit if he was going to be good or bad. I was hopeful he'd be bad because I didn't like him as a person.
You acquired a garbage human being. That's what I want an apology for.
Not because it didn't work out for you. So, if they get Cam Ward, though? That's how you erase it.
That's how you get me back. There's only one way.
Well, there's two ways. You can try to find a way to get Baker Mayfield back, but that'd be great.
I love Baker. Root for the Bucs.
I'm a big Baker guy. We all know wrong decision was made there.
But Cam Ward is the other way to fix it. Cam Ward, because of the Miami ties, I love Cam Ward.
And yeah, that'd be a great elixir for what's ailing me right now. And I'm likely to support wherever Cam Ward goes to because I'm that big of a fan of his.
And I'm going to be rooting for him regardless of even if he's a Baltimore Raven or Pittsburgh Steeler, I'd throw my support behind Cam Ward. So I know that the Browns fans have been through a lot.
And I think Browns fans, even though some of them supported Deshaun Watson, do deserve someone like Cam Ward. And I've lived it.
I've seen Cam Ward turn a program's fortunes around. I think he's an incredible player.
I think Tennessee's kind of figuring that out, though. Cam Ward's, I feel like the perception around Cam Ward is going through a bit of the normal quarterback trajectory where last year no one knew him.
And this year they're like, oh, he's pretty good. He's probably going to be one of the higher picks.
And now it's going through the roof. I'm seeing him compared to the likes at the top of the league where his skill level and talent.
And I get why people are excited by it, but I mean I'm getting a little nervous the way they're raising the ceiling on my mind. Because everyone loves him? It makes you nervous? No, it's not even that.
It's about how fast it's gone in the names that they're comparing him to and the expectations that they're creating for him in the situation that he's going into. Because they started putting him with people like Mahomes, saying talent-wise he has that type of arm talent.
I don't think he was projecting him to be Mahomes, but they're putting him in that category. Yeah, it was Daniel Jeremiah who did comps for him, and he said that Cam Ward is in the phylum.
He's obviously not as good of a prospect of the Brett Favre, Caleb Williams, Patrick Mahomes style of player, and just putting those names out there. And then you look at Chador Sanders, and he like, Andy Dalton.
First off, not going to tolerate any Andy Dalton slander while I'm on this damn show. Should have been a first round pick.
Number one. Who slandered him? I just, I don't know because it was the tone he took.
It was an up and then it went down in the tone of his voice. Patrick Mahomes, Brett Barb, Andy Dalton.

I feel like even you would admit that those comparisons are different.

They are different comparisons. You're insulted by the Shador.

I would rather him just give the information and say, hey, he compared him to these guys

and he compared Shador to this guy and just walk away from it.

There was a comedic timing to his voice.

It was well delivered.

I was going to ask Charlie.

It was unnecessary.

I was going to ask Charlie to re-deliver it. Re-deliver it.
Can you re-deliver it in a way that's not offensive to Hawk or Andy Dalton? I would just like to get my information, please. I would not like to be coerced into a— Andy Dalton, who should have been a first-round pick, is why Shador Sanders is 18th on Daniel Jeremiah's forward.
Ooh, yeah, that's moving him up. I like that.
We good? I like him. cam ward i'll probably surprise you with take cam ward is a a flawed prospect he's not he's not perfect if you go through his best games he'll do things in the best games that'll positively make you mad he's the type of guy that a gm will fall in love with but also the type of guy that might get a gm fired and i think, look, Cam Ward had a special season last year.
And yeah, I think he's going to be a great pro. But also, if this edition of Cam Ward was in last year's draft, he's probably maybe the fourth quarterback taken off the board.
You can even argue fifth, considering how Bo Nix finished last season. I think it says more about the current state of the draft class that Cam Ward is being talked about.
And because he's going to be number one or talked about as the number one pick, then, of course, the comparisons of Patrick Mahomes are going there. But if he's talked about his fifth quarterback off the board, you're not hearing those comps.
I feel really good about Cam Ward, man. I feel good more than anything.
I mean, yes, he looks good on tape. He has the arm strength.
He throws at the certain arm angles like Daniel Jeremiah said. And I love Daniel Jeremiah.
I really trust his opinion on the quarterback guys. What I love most about Ward is like the opposite of what you expect for guys that have been in and out of the portal.
Right. Because in this new day and age where you're going to have a quarterback that's played for two, three, four programs, you're going to have a lot of questions about, A, their personality, why they're doing that, what's important to them, and them not being able to be stable in any one place.
Cam Ward has also bounced around, but if you watched him, he jumped up at every level, and it felt more like in an effort to prove who he was to everybody else and himself. And when you look at the success he's had at every single stop, I mean, you can't help but be impressed.
This is a guy who will go into a program and has such a confidence in himself that he is the linchpin to turn it around. And don't you think the fact that this is a guy who he started at incarnate word.
His upside is the fact that he hasn't been coached in a major program. Like, Shador Sanders was being coached by elite position coaches since he was a kid.
This was part of Deion's plan to have him as an NFL quarterback. Cam Ward is, like, sort of backed into this, where his talent and his elastic arm are so exceptional that, like, yeah, his feet, they're really sloppy.
I mean, I remember the first time I talked to Dominique about this. He's like, he does not look like an NFL quarterback in the pocket.
And, like like the upside of that is he hasn't been coached like an NFL quarterback for his entire career. He ran the wing tee in high school.
He had under a thousand passing yards as a senior in high school. He then set the NCAA passing record.
That's unbelievable. And so like so many quarterback draft there, we go through different things.
And as we talk about the evolution of the league, we go through different things that we value when we're, when we we're drafting at one point the thing that was most valuable or considered most value for a quarterback was his level of whiteness no longer a deciding factor or it doesn't seem like a deciding factor then we went into like accuracy was a thing at one point where you look for that more than anything else pocket presence and now it seems like potential like potential is the word that gets you excited. And Cam Ward might be the best prospect for that because of what Charlie mentioned.
Like he played in the wing tee. Then he went incarnate word.
And then he goes to Washington State and he gets better and better. And so you can see that he's already on a ridiculous trajectory.
And coaches see that and get excited. They got so excited last year with Andy Richardson and he wasn't showing that trajectory.
He just looked freaky out there. They were like, hey, we're going to figure it out.
And with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and guys like that, everyone thinks they're not going to have Trey Lance. They think they're going to get Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.
And you know what? I also think Shador fits in that bucket as well. Now, obviously there's conversation around Shadorador, and they're like, oh, he's arrogant.
Yes, he is a confident dude. Like, he's the son of Deion Sanders.
You know what I mean? I'm short. My dad is short.
That's how it works. You kind of get what you're given.
But at the same time, he also went and performed at an HBCU. And I remember when he went to Colorado, people weren't like, oh, he's going to go here and crush.
He's going to go in here

and be one of the best quarterbacks in the

nation. And he also did

that as well. And so there's obviously

a lot more factors around Shador

and how he ended up at the FCS

level. But I will say I feel

this like very similar to him,

that Cam Ward, that there's a trajectory there

where they're all still climbing. I don't think

it's been a plateau. Is there any bias

that you need to declare when talking about

because you got a lot of friends. What is that supposed to mean?

I'm just saying that you're watching a different player

than I'm watching if that's your assessment of Shador

Sanders. I'm trying to figure out you and Dion

homies or what? What is

what the hell is this supposed to mean? I'm saying

that you established yesterday.

This was your strategy in game two?

No. Huh? To start a riff with your teammate? This is what you wanted to do? I take it back.
I take it back. Take it back.
You wanted to go Kobe Shaq today? He took it back. That's what you woke up this morning and said? Did you hear me say I take it back? I take it back.
I don't think you can do that. You can take it back.
You can take it back. We're on a public forum.
They're all looking at us like, oh, no. Is he going to flip the table? I might, Mike.
This is a heavy table. You flip the table? Yeah.
Flip this table? yeah flip this table the top's not attached though so you gotta be careful with that table like if you lean on it too much it'll flip over he was here more he would know that if he was in the gym when i was in the gym every day early putting up shot it is funny though the the discussion around cam ward because it would relatively be look we're not talking about shador as much because he's consensus second quarterback being taken off and i reached out to someone in nfl scouting and i asked him like how how do you think the draft would go if this year's cam ward was plopped in the last year he said caleb still goes number one even though he was you know betrayed by coaching staff the upside is still there then you go daniels and this this particular person said cam ward's three and i found that surprising ahead of the likes of drake may and and bo nicks i understand over bo nicks but drake may i feel like in terms of measurables in terms of like what a nfl front office feels safer with because cam ward is risky because of the footwork because of his his ability to kind of

freestyle a little bit and hold the ball a little bit longer to make things happen I think Drake May would be a safer pick but this guy had Cam Ward around three is so where'd you get that information from I'm gonna reveal my sources yeah oh I mean what is this guy doing Mike what is he doing yeah but this is a high-ranking uh scout in the NFL Look at me blue

That's all I'm doing

I'm trying to set up a Louie

I'm trying to set up a Louie. I'm trying to set up a Louie.
Just trying to set up a Louie. I like a Louie.
Okay, all right. I like him.
I like him. Yeah, the Cam Ward projection is one thing.
The Shador Sanders thing is, like, I understand the reason why anyone would draft Shador Sanders. So going back and looking at Shador Sanders' film from this year,

one thing that I realized is it was a lot more short passes than I remembered.

It's a lot more.

In my mind, and I think that this could happen,

it's like I remember Shador throwing big passes in that game against Kansas.

And then I went back and watched it on a flight a couple months ago

or a couple weeks ago and was like, ooh, doing a lot of screening over there. You're getting that thing out your hands awfully fast, big dog.
And then I'm looking forward to make these big, thrilling, down-the-field passes that I imagined, and they just weren't on the tape that I watched nearly as much. And that's the thing I think that scares people is they don't want to be in a situation that so many quarterbacks or so many teams find themselves in is as much as we want to focus on how important it is to build the team we want to look at the eagles it's like everybody can do that you don't have to have a perfect quarterback one thing that makes it easier for you that cleans up a bunch of mistakes you got holes on defense you know it's pretty nice to have a quarterback and two awesome receivers and then you can be competitive in every every game yeah i don't i don't think you're wrong and i think i've watched maybe again admittedly maybe three like all 22s of of shador but when i watch him and the same with cam work it's like mike said there's things that pop out that you don't love like that he's not developed on there will still be development for both of these guys.
And like, I also have to consider like where they've been. I do, not that it's been a bad thing that he's played for his father, but it's a different situation.
Like you're not out there on the island. I have a son as well.
And I know, yo, sometimes I got to just drop him off and let him get out there and just figure it out. Otherwise, there will be always a crutch there.
And I feel like in some of Shador's development, you see that in his film, which I do feel like in the right situation and with the right coaches, he will develop his way out of because of the ability he has. It's like when I'm scouting high school receivers and I see a guy from South Florida and then I see a guy from Fort Wayne, Indiana, and I see them in their camp tape and I see one kid who's catching the ball at camp in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
He's just running back to the huddle instead of running upfield, which is like, hey, you got to do this. But then I see a guy in South Florida do it.
Knowing the culture down here, knowing the football culture, knowing like what you're exposed to at such an early age, then I'm more like, oh, that's a decision for you not to do that. Versus this guy doesn't have the information.
And when I look at your your doors like downside I feel like the situation he's in in some ways has capped like the best version that we could probably Expect when we put on the game field. I feel you he the the tools though that he has or doesn't have I think is what scares people off There was a there was a time when we would be scared away from the toolsy quarterback That seems to be in vogue now Everyone wants wants the Tulsi quarterback because they all believe that they can turn him into Josh Allen or turn him into Lamar Jackson, which obviously you're probably not going to, but it's worth the risk to take because if you have a quarterback like that, as we saw, particularly in Buffalo, they changed that roster around him many different ways.
You know where they find themselves every year? In contention. So that's what it comes down to.
And I guess there is really no debate between Shador and Cam. We're creating that.
There's nobody, there's no draft analyst out there who's like, hey, one or two, Shador or Cam. What's interesting is we did this exercise with Cam.
Where would this year's Cam be drafted in last year's class? It's real scary for Shador if you take this year's Shador and you drop him in last year's class. That's a guy that's being talked about going third overall.
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You mentioned how your son is a really good athlete and I ran into you at the Junior Olympics because your son's an awesome athlete. He gets that from you.
I'd love to take all the credit. My wife was a really good long jumper, like a better long jumper than I.
Did you run track? I was on the team. I'm like Mike.
I was there. I like the accountability.
Yeah, I was. No, no, no.
It's not Solon Valor. I was around.
I wasn't helping. I was like a high jumper.
I'm shocked. Jumping like 5'2".
You know? Wasn't getting a lot of points there. I did triple jump.
I did long jump. And I would have these spurts of athleticism where they would, you know.
Was your school like a particularly great sports school? Like I'm shocked that you were. Hang on.
Billy was a collegiate track star. Right, I know.
So I want... It sounds like he was on the track team.
It sounds like he played... I was on the track team.
Many events on the track team. I did a lot of events.
I was there doing every event. But like, for me...
So you were good. You're just being humble.
I'm not being humble. It's that the expectation is, if you didn't know anything about me, what would you say? You'd be like, oh, you were the 100-meter dash guy.
I'd say you was crushing it. No, I was on the 4x1 team.
So you underachieved in track? I didn't figure it out until I got to college. You were an anchor? Were you an anchor on the 4x1? I was the third leg.
Whoa! I am stunned. It was bad.
I ran the 100 twice in high school. My best, I ran it as a freshman, and I ran a 13.6, which is not great.

I like your,

now you're a better teammate.

You're a better teammate

than you were earlier.

I appreciate that.

But in my senior year,

I ran 11.33.

Okay.

Was my, you know,

but that's not,

like my son is in seventh grade

and he runs a 12.5 in the hundred.

So,

so what about your jumps?

You were,

you're a great jumper, right? I was, I was solid. I jumped 20 feet once.
Your son had practice yet? Has he what? Has he had practice yet for this year? Like today? Yeah. I mean, like, no.
It was a weird way of asking. It was a weird way.
Okay, yeah. No, he's had practice in the jumps.
So the reason why it's a weird way of asking is because for the last two minutes, just talking about track and talking about sons. I talked to Hawk earlier in the day.
You just trying to have breakfast yet? And Hawk had a great time at his son's practice yesterday. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had practice yesterday. Okay, you were trying to tee me up.
I didn't want to talk about it. It's not a good thing.
So now I don't feel like you're a good teammate anymore. All right, so I'm pretty sure I ruptured a disc in my back trying to triple jump yesterday at my son's practice.
And that's what we're trying to, that's the story we're trying to get to. Because I didn't even get through the triple jump.
And for those that don't know, triple jump is three jumps. You can probably figure that out.
The first one is kind of a skip. And then you jump to the next.
So you jump, land on the same foot, jump to the next foot, and then into the pit. So I jumped.

I just didn't warm up.

I was like, yo, I did this in high school.

I was trying to give an example.

I jumped, and I was like too far from the board that I jumped from.

And I'm like, let me just shut this down right now.

Let me just abort.

You were too athletic?

It was too good.

Is that what you were trying to allude to?

It felt that way.

He was the best seventh grader out there.

That's the look-at-me-Louie situation.

Those seventh graders who got me, Lou. When Miami lost to BYU, we were too fast.
I was like, yo, this is the board y'all jump from? So anyway, I tried to shut it down in a board mission, and that's where it all went downhill because that's a lot harder than it looks. The landing is always the hard part.
I just came down really hard, so much that it shot a pain up my back. And my head kind of did one of these rattle things.
And I immediately got a headache. And now I'm pretty sure I need to go to a chiropractor.
I recognize that urge as a former athlete myself. Whenever I'm around somebody doing sports stuff, something in me is like, hey, just go ahead.
Just give it a shot. give it a shot.
A little something, give them a little run, a little crossover, but it's dangerous because so many friends. We're at the age, we're at the Achilles popping age.
Like early 40s, this is when they start popping. I had two friends popping in the last year.
Achilles just out here popping. I went skiing and that's all I was concerned about.
Well, my son's a 12-year-old who really likes to ski. And 12-year-old boys, they make terrible decisions.
And so I was really concerned about him and my friend's son who's six, who's also a boy who makes terrible decisions. They just try to skate around into ridiculous things or ski around and up mountains and stuff.
So I was worried about that. And also, popping something.
I mean, everything gets brittle at this age. I was sore as shit, but you know what? I ain't popped nothing.
So it was a win. Well, I don't ever like, and we talked about this.
It's, I know, I hear these stories, right? Everyone knows when you get a certain age, don't do certain things. You will get hurt.
Like you got to just pass on it. But the urge.
Yeah, it's in there. It never goes well.
It's in there. And also it it's like the fear is the thing is never as pronounced as the stories that people tell right like i knew i shouldn't have did it so yesterday i was like it was like a little piece that was like don't jump but it didn't quite feel as dangerous as it does in the moment the way my back is we trying to show off for the seventh graders like why couldn't you just go like 70 speed well i i it was like there's like a line right because it's like oh let me let me dial it back and then i don't make the pit well yeah and that's like the so my going hard was not in an effort to show off it was like you got to hit a bare minimum to not look like you're old i get it because like what you were telling us is like a seventh grader could beat you as a freshman in a race so like now you don't want to kind of it's like have the seventh grader be like i'm probably closer to what i was as a freshman in high school than i was as a senior yeah in the moment billy i've seen you race before where you got it in youtube where you walk around you say that but somebody calls you out they look at you funny you're like hey let me just line it up y'all Yeah.
You know what I don't do? Like, because you're talking about being old trampoline parks. Not a thought in my mind.
Those feel safe. Those aren't safe.
What? Well, they're safe for like age appropriate attendees. Like I've gone like two or three times and I've left pretty unscathed.
And I feel like I've had to retire from those. Like, I don't even want to go back.
When my kids are of the age of going to them I know I'm gonna go down that path I'm like I could backflip and then that's when I end up you know not walking anymore what events did you do in college Billy I just did pole vault that's pretty sick yeah but I'm slow is the thing like that's the problem you had to be faster for pole vault you're the fastest person on the show right well no Chris that, there's a misconception there. Chris beat me in the last race.
That was a long time ago. That was a long time ago, so I'm not going to be talked into racing down the street.
Here's the thing. I'm going out on top.
So Chris beat me on the last race, but if we look at the tape, the finish line changed, and I'm a notoriously bad starter also. I can catch up to people, but I have a bad first step.
I don't have a good jump off the line. I'm not encouraging anybody to race as I talk about how we're all at the age of popping Achilles.
I swear to God I'll do it. I know.
I swear I could so easily be talking to something athletic. I got I know that feeling.
Dominique we can get you two. You can get you two to race.
Well, you can definitely beat Dominique.

We know that.

I don't know.

You can beat Dominique. We have to look at combine numbers,

and we're going to have to look at the combine numbers.

Yeah, we don't need to race.

We did a combine.

We did combine numbers.

You're not talking me into popping nothing out here today.

I jogged yesterday.

Sounds like you're scared.

Look at me trying to catch Billy here.

I did watch Dominique jog as a boat.

It's all right, Dominique.

You're scared to race Hawkins.

It's all good.

If you give me two months to train,

I feel like I can pop a really good 100-meter dash time.

If you give me two months,

I probably will still sit here and be scared to race Hawkins

because I'm not scared of losing to Hawkins

unless y'all putting some money on the line.

I'm scared of what's going to happen to my bones, joints, and liggies.

I ain't here to pop no liggies.

When did this happen to you?

Because I thought I heard stories of you racing people in alleys in Washington at the office.

Yeah, that happened.

I got to fight.

I got to fight the urge.

So when I'm at my son's flag football game, my son had a good game,

and I told my parents about it on the way home,

and I've been sending my parents clips of him, and my parents like I think he's better to you oh yeah if y'all don't get the f out of here I would have gave that kid and that's the feeling that comes into me when I'm around people doing athletic things or people talking about sports things like man why don't y'all stop with this foolishness. I don't...
Let me show you what time have you forgot what I

was? athletic things or people talking about sports things. It was like, man, why don't y'all stop with this foolishness? Let me show you what time.
Have you forgot what I was in my prime? My son ain't compared to me. One reveal.
Dominique did lose a three cone drill to former Levitard show producer Old Money Charlie. That's a bone face line.
In a hallway. In an ABC hallway, there were cones put out.
There were cones! Bold face line. I have a photo.
A photo of a race is crazy. It is a video and then there is a freeze frame of the crossing of the finish line.
Were you guys going at the same time? yeah okay all right i thought it was like you went then he went you both timed it no no no it's not this classic wrong charlie different oh okay it's a fast charlie fast charlie wait you have the video of this so theoretically we can watch the video i mean we can make we can make our own determination of who won but you're saying you won't you will no longer engage absolutely athletic. It in athletic.
That was the same year where I had a producer at what was then called the Undefeated, now Anscape, who said that he could score a point on me in one-on-one basketball. No, it wasn't Tony.
It was Monis in—no, it wasn't Monis. This is important, though.
We should really pop down down in who it was. Yes, undefeated producer Tony.
That was our Tony. It wasn't your Tony.
It was another guy. Did you just score one point against you? That doesn't seem that hard.
This is how it starts. This is how it starts.
This is that type of disrespect. One point is well played.
Tell him this. By accident, it could happen.
I could just throw it over my head. Not me.
I wouldn't. I could score a 49, Dom.
He was taller than me, too. And he was like, I mean, I'll score one.
And I was like, no, you won't. Like, I'll score 11 before you score one.
And I was trying to explain to him the difference. Like, you're not faster than me.
You're not stronger than me. You're not quicker than me.
You will not get a good shot. And, like, I'm not a great basketball player, but you're not going to get a good shot.
You're going to have to hit a bad shot before I hit 11 shots. And, yeah, I beat him 11-0.
Yeah, that sounds about it. And he was like, I play basketball every day.
And I was like, I don't. But what you have to understand is just.
I'm a lunatic. Yeah.
What does not Tony look like just out of curiosity? Like regular Tony. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I mean, Tony wouldn't get a bucket on me either.
Don't say that when he's around. He'll show you his game tape over and over again.
I might have a list for later in the week when Tony's here of the top five players that I think Tony thinks he's better than a basketball. He'd be in one-on-one, but he won't say out loud.
Is Tony a good basketball player? He thinks so. If you ask him.
Did he try out for FIU? That was football. He tried to be a quarterback

but they didn't let him use the football.

So it was like

shadow passes. Who tries to

walk on as a quarterback who's not a quarterback?

That's crazy. He probably

could have did some H-back though. He's got never-ending

confidence. He is the MVP.

That's the number one thing you need as an athlete.

The well talent too.

He's a good basketball player. 1.5.
He's got a good shot The well talent, too. He's a good basketball player.

1.5.

1.1 A, 1 B.

He's got a good shot.

Does he?

Yeah, no, he's a good basketball player.

I like him.

I mean, he's not a pro by any stretch of the imagination.

He plays against 65-year-old Ron McGill.

Yeah.

Does he win?

I saw he shared on Instagram an MVP of the Tuesday Night League.

Oh, Tuesday Night MVP?

Tony's got a shot.

They don't just hand those out. I'm giving the context.
Tony's got a shot. No, I'm not.
They don't just hand those out.

I'm giving the context.

Tony's the best basketball player here by a wide margin.

Yeah.

I know that that's not a great brag.

Not the professional athletes?

I just want to get him out there and see what he's made of.

I'm not saying I'm better than him or I could beat him.

You are.

Could he beat Steve Williams in basketball?

I just want to get him out there.

Could he whoop Steve Williams' ass is the question that Nick is really wondering with all of this.

That's all I want to know.

Can you fight, Steve?

Can you fight?

I mean, I heard the accent.

I was like, he'd probably play rugby.

I bet he's a tough guy.

See if I can get him into some tough guy talk.

Eh, probably not.

We've got to get Tony out here to defend himself.

Yeah, I think Tony can't.

Uh-oh.

Oh, this is the picture.

Here we go.

Let's go to it.

Who is falling? That's me falling. Okay.
Oh, God. Zoom in on the foot, though, here.
You just saved your Achilles by releasing that thing. Are you wearing, like, early 2000 seat patterns? No, I think they were.
Are those horse huffs? Why are they that shape? What is that? It's like an octagon. Is that the end of the race? Why are you falling backwards? We did a three-cone drill, and I was ahead by so much, I decided to backpedal.
And the one thing that I'm not capable of doing at this age is backpedal. Is the thing you were paid millions of dollars to do? That was years ago, too.
That's like seven years ago, right? Hawk points Hawk points it out accurately. You'd think it'd be muscle memory for a former corner.
You'd think of all the parts of the race to be like, I'm going to go into the thing that someone literally made me a millionaire to be really good at, and that's where it all fell apart. Yep, the backpedal.
That's crazy. The overconfident backpedal cost me the win.
I still think I won. Charlie.
Those clogs? What was that? What kind of shoe? What year was it? And we can figure it out. Was it like those Steve Madden bowling shoes that was very popular? The 06 popular.
I'll tell you what it was. It's when Nike and Cole Hawn merged.
You had the access to all the spending of the Cole Hawn. And Nike, I had a lot of Nike bucks from being a Nike athlete.
And I was like, all right. Oh, what a tie.
Let me get some. Yeah, so that's what it was.
They were leftover Kohlhawn Nikes. It was like, hey.
And that was before we all just wore. Athletic dress shoes, man.
I love it. It was before we just all wore tennis shoes at all times now.
It was like those were the most comfortable type of work shoes you could wear back

in whenever that was that completely makes sense i i told you guys that we're gonna get to my racist cat so i didn't know i'm gonna take it back he's not racist his name's lamar he's not racist sounds like you're he's he just has a healthy trepidation of white folk okay so we went to aspen and while While we were away, one of my wife's friends from college asked to stay at our house while

they... nation of white folk.
Okay. So we went to Aspen and while we were away, one of my wife's friends from college asked to stay at our house while they did some work at her house.
So we were like, sure, fine, go ahead. You can stay there.
She's white. Her husband's white.
Their kid's white. They get there and they love cats and the cat's there.
And they called and was like, we haven't seen the cat all day. They called the next day.
We haven't seen the cat all day they called the next day we haven't seen the cat all day four days they say we haven't seen the cat so we're all kind of nervous like oh they must have let him out by mistake while they were coming in how big's your house it's a house come on man you see these cats can hide man you know how much kohans you know how much kohans cost plus nike i mean are you crazy go look up the cost of kohans in 2011 it's called that that will tell you how big his house is. It's called Foxworth Manor.
It's not called that at all. You know how sneaky cats are.
They can hide. What's the name of the cat? Just for context.
Lamar. Lamar.
Oh, that's right. You said that.
Steve Martin. I'm going to leave.
Sorry about that. Come on.
Steve Martin. No, no, no.
You good? You good? Everybody makes mistakes. Stay.
We've all made mistakes. Dan would have sent you away, but we're not going to do that.
No, no. We're inclusive around here.
True around true team leaders here you're gonna be better at the end of the show for that so we're all worried and my wife and i are like man what are we gonna do the kids are gonna be so upset the cat's lost probably dead somewhere we get home um flying it's like he could be dead in the house it just don't stink yet like i don't know or he ran out into the woods so we get home at like midnight from flying and we walk in the house. And the first thing my son does is call for Lamar.
Lamar. He doesn't know.
We didn't tell him. He just like excited to get back to see his pet.
Yeah. And so my wife and I look at each other like, oh, cringing like, oh, we going, we just going to try to go to bed tonight and, and talk about it in the morning.
He he's lamar the cat's in the house for four days hiding they're in the house and he's hiding and that's the only conclusion we came to he didn't trust him he was like i don't know what y'all doing here i don't are you guys colonizing has he ever seen white people yeah yeah i mean he spent his whole life in your house yeah he's we got him from white people. Okay.
After that, those might have been the last. Do we know how those white people treated him? Well, we don't know.
That might be it. Does he think it was those same white people? He was hiding.
They're coming to take me. Y'all can't take me back? No, I like it here.
Y'all can't take me back. This sounds like just cat behavior.
Like, cats are weird. For a black guy, man.
This is his first cat ever. I can almost guarantee you he's never had a cat before this.
Cats are weird, man. It's the first cat.
Just what they do. They know the voices of the people they care about, and if it's not one of those voices, they're good.
So did the cat eat? Like, just sneak out and eat when they weren't paying attention? That's what happened. Well, the food was disappearing, but they were still worried about the cat? Who's's eating this food no the husband so it was we put out enough food so it was too much for them to like tell the difference but the husband said that he would hear stuff and he just felt like he was there but he just chalked it up to like maybe creaking in the house late at night and the cat was just hiding came out got his food would do his business at night while he was and then go back to whatever corner in the house he was hiding.
You know what I think it is? What is it? Because this is what I would do if I had to stay over your house because something was going on in my house, and your cat was there. I admittedly am not a cat person.
Yeah. I would have locked your cat into a room the entire time you were gone.
But you wouldn't have also told me he was missing. I would have.
Just in case. You know, maybe you have security, something that would have seen some portion or something would have happened or went wrong in that time.
I'd have been like, oh, he was in that closet the whole time. We must have shut.
So then right before you come back, you let it out. And then it's voila, racist cat with actuality.
We're not, not cat people. We locked the cat.
I locked your cat away because I'm not going to be in your house for four days scared for my life because I don't know if your cat's going to claw my eyeballs out. I would enjoy this mansion by myself.
I'm not a cat person either. I've become a cat person.
But the kids wanted a pet. And my wife is allergic.
So we consider getting a hypoallergenic dog. But kids at this age, it's enough work.
You know what I'm not doing? Adding another heartbeat to the house that I have to be responsible for. So you get a cat.
Cats take care of their own business. You don't have to deal with too many cats like that.
When you say you've become a cat person, you just pet it on the head now a little bit? No, I don't even do that. I was going to say.
He just owns a cat. He has not tortured the cat, which makes him a cat person cat person i clean the litter box he likes me the most i guess probably because i'm the only one that cleans the litter box and feeds him and do those sorts of things give him medicine when he's i do those things he follows me around the funny thing is he doesn't like to be pet so like he follows me around and sits wherever i'm sitting and if i ever try to reach over to me like that's...
That's why y'all cool, bro. Y'all just lock in.
I mean, would you like if the cat just starts petting you? I don't like it when cats purr. What? Are you a cat person? Do you have cats? My parents have a cat.
Anybody else here have cats? I don't like it when it purrs. What's he really thinking? I don't think he's happy.
What's this really about? He wants me to think he's happy. He's not happy.
I'm not a cat person. I've never had, I shouldn't say I'm not a cat person.
You have dogs? I've never had a cat. I don't have dogs either.
You're not a pet person. I'm not a pet person.
Oh, you. You got to realize, dogs in my community.
Yeah. It was a scary thing, man.
Because it wasn't like. Hit or miss.
Breaking NFL news from the Breakers. Thank you for getting out of that.
Adam Schefter has sent out. Good teammate, good teammate.
NFL's kickoff proposal was separated into two votes today. One that passed, one that was tabled.
Number one, the football now moves to the 35 after a touchback that passed. Number two, no vote at this time on the onside kick modification.
It will pick back up at the main meeting. So why ever return a return a kick yeah the justification for moving it back is they're trying to get or moving it up are they trying to get kickoffs out of the game altogether i don't understand like i feel like the xfl kickoff it worked in terms of having some returns back for touchdown we saw a spike in that we saw that start with week one the where people get confused is with the onside kick because, okay,

well, I hate having to announce it.

Well, everybody's down there.

You can't onside kick at 35 yards.

The onside, I think at some point they'll move the onside kick

to the flag football version of onside kick,

which is you get a fourth and 20.

Yeah, I love that.

Another rule from the XFL.

Why can't we go punt no newie on them?

You guys aren't hip to punt no newie?

I don't even know what that means.

I have no idea.

I do let him know, though.

Come on, man.

Thanks, Billy.

I'll see him up.

This is recess football.

Like when you're playing recess, there's no kicking, so you throw it.

Oh, throw-offs.

Yeah, like punt no, you got to yell punt no newie.

Because this is the last one.

Never heard that part where you yelled.

No newie.

We're not doing this over again. It's one and done, baby.
We're getting to it. It might have just been like a house rule for you guys.
No, we got no Nui. I've seen it in movies, man.
No, you haven't. I mean, granted, I produced the movie, and it was a story of my life specifically.
Look at me, Nui. That was good.
It was a lie, but we can go with that. Yeah, putting on new is not a thing that I ever participated in.
I mean, we do throw-offs. So what type of, like, losers were you playing with? What do you mean? No, new-y.
Yes, literally. Put no new-y.
Throw. Who was calling for new-y's? Like, when we would do throw-offs, you threw it off.
There was never a reason you'd call a penalty illegal throw? I never heard someone say a newie. Then I had to be like, no.
Look at me, newie. There's no way you would play recess football without no one putting a newie.
Played some 500. What's that? Where you throw it off.
It's like 100, and then you've got to get to 500, I think, to become the thrower. No, that's a different game.
I've never heard of that. No, the kids call it, or at least my son's kids, my son's friends call it Moss, where

they just all stand in a circle and you throw it up.

Oh, that is a good name.

Head top.

And you throw it up over there and they're like, you want to play Moss?

Like, no, I don't want to play Moss with you people who are a foot shorter than me.

What are we doing here?

Yeah, they call it head top.

Okay.

I thought that was like a different name.

We call it No Nui. We call it No Nui where I grew up.
I'm going to introduce No Nui! I think we're doing good this show. Hey, you in the audience.
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