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Speaker 11 Gotta tell you, I hope that someone today winds up posting a picture of their kids at first day of school. Because it'd be a shame.
if the whole day went by today and I didn't see any of those.

Speaker 11 So hopefully someone posts a pic of their kids at school for the first day today, Greg.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 14 Did you not want those?

Speaker 11 I mean,

Speaker 11 everywhere I look on social media now, first day of this, first day, who cares?

Speaker 9 It's a big deal.

Speaker 11 If we're doing big deal, not a big deal, it's not a big deal. I don't understand, Greg.
If you want to show, you know, the response is going to be, oh, well, you know, we want people to see our kids.

Speaker 15 We want them to see.

Speaker 11 Then send them the picture. Send them the picture.
Why does it have to go on Facebook for everyone to see? I don't get it.

Speaker 16 I don't mind it when the kids are really small. It's, you know, kindergarten through fourth grade or whatever.
I think it's wonderful, mainly because I have a granddaughter who's that age.

Speaker 17 Where's the line?

Speaker 16 I think the line is, if it's your first day in college, I'm not.

Speaker 9 That's the line? What about fourth grade?

Speaker 17 I'm with you on this. Let's find the line.
Fourth grade, stop posting.

Speaker 17 You get till third grade.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I would say third, fourth, maybe fifth.

Speaker 9 No, I haven't countered. So you're just okay with it, it seems.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 Zaz, go ahead and pick up your phone. I sent you a photo of my niece.
Her name's Ariella Willis, and she is starting her first day.

Speaker 11 Oh, and she looks like a first day of senior year.

Speaker 9 I was going to say that this is an adult.

Speaker 11 Isn't that a big deal? First day of senior year?

Speaker 9 No, no.

Speaker 11 Okay, but okay, hold on a second. Let me backtrack.
Is that picture, that's beautiful that you were clearly sent that picture. Is that picture being thrown on social media today?

Speaker 14 Well, they sort of gave a dry run and throw it on the group chat. And I think when they do that is when they're testing me.

Speaker 11 It's like, hey hey you should put that on your social and of course i'm not going to do that i'd be a crazy person but if they were to do it great i have no issue with it but zaz like this morning i had to leave before my daughter went to school so i haven't seen what she looks like this morning i really want to see it okay but the way that you're going to see your daughter can't possibly be let me check my wife's facebook account like i would hope that your wife is sending you know, you see a picture, right?

Speaker 11 The way that you're staying dialed in. I mean, mean, Greg, you're the grandfather.
Right. Do you have to check social media to get the picture of your granddaughter going to school?

Speaker 11 Or is it being sent to you?

Speaker 16 No, I might have to check social media to see that.

Speaker 11 Well, what's going on in the Cody household then? Can somebody send the grandfather a picture?

Speaker 17 I just noticed my wife posted it 23 minutes ago and never texted me.

Speaker 16 There you go. I want to see that, folks.

Speaker 17 I just saw it on her Instagram.

Speaker 9 What is that?

Speaker 18 See?

Speaker 17 Well, how do you feel about the sign that says their name,

Speaker 18 their teacher's name, what grade we're going into?

Speaker 16 Right, right, right, right. So adorable.
Oh, you like that?

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 He likes it for my daughter. I do, yeah.

Speaker 11 What about on the last day? Like, you have the side-by-sides, first day of third grade, last day of third grade.

Speaker 11 And then you compare, ooh, look how much they've grown.

Speaker 9 You like that one, too?

Speaker 16 Nah, not so much.

Speaker 11 Can I tell you, I get Ajida on the first day of school. Like, look.

Speaker 11 I'm in my 40s, all right? It's been a long time since I've been in school. Thank God.
I hated school.

Speaker 11 I get Ajada when I see the photos. You get anxiety.
You get nervous, you know? Read a book, man.

Speaker 14 What's that? Yiddish? Ajada.

Speaker 18 Ajada.

Speaker 11 I get nervous when I see the pictures.

Speaker 11 I remember, you know, what the first day of school.

Speaker 11 First day of school is the ultimate thing you're excited about. And then once you get there, you realize this shit sucks.
Like, right? Like, like... NFL preseason's like that.

Speaker 11 We were all excited going into the dolphin game yesterday. Oh, this is exciting.
We got dolphins preseason. And then once Zach Wilson ends this game, like this shit sucks.

Speaker 11 First day of school was like that too.

Speaker 14 Quick update. I ended up putting it on my story, my niece's first day of school.
I tagged you in it, Zez, so make sure you see it.

Speaker 14 And if anybody else sees it, just make sure to repost it so that Zazla sees it every single time again.

Speaker 11 Can people tell when you're tagged like something, something like that on Facebook, can they tell when you click on the feature untag? Because that's always an issue, you know, like when

Speaker 11 you're in a thread, you know, on text messages and it's a bunch of people in the group. But Greg, you don't want to be in this group.

Speaker 14 You don't want to collaborate.

Speaker 11 So you want to leave the conversation. There's a button you can click leave the conversation, but they expose you where it then says Zaslow has left the conversation.
And

Speaker 11 that's insulting, you know? Like, it's like, oh, I'm too good for your conversation. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 9 You left.

Speaker 11 Right, I know. I'm good with leaving, but I don't want to insult other people.

Speaker 16 I don't join or leave conversations. I don't want any of that.
I'm not in group chats. You know,

Speaker 16 golf group chat. I heard somebody talking about earlier today.
I don't do that.

Speaker 14 You are in a group chat.

Speaker 17 You're in the Fantasy League group chat?

Speaker 16 Okay, I'm in that. I'm in that.
But I'm in that for informative purposes, not to small talk and make jokes and, you know.

Speaker 16 tease and and you know shout out to other people chirp at other people uh i'm in it to find out like when is the draft okay when's my draft and i should know because i'm hosting it finally we decided on our draft date After everybody's going back and forth, it was like the Middle East peace talks.

Speaker 16 We couldn't arrive at a, agree on a draft date. Ridiculous.
Where was I?

Speaker 19 You do it in person or online, your draft?

Speaker 16 In person. First day of school.

Speaker 9 Really?

Speaker 11 You can still get a crew together in person?

Speaker 9 It's hard. Yeah, some of it.

Speaker 16 Because we're multi-states, right?

Speaker 17 We have people. A few people on Zoom, but even the nine people local, it's tough.
Wow.

Speaker 9 It is tough.

Speaker 19 And you have the big board with the stickers and all that? Yeah, we do, right?

Speaker 16 All right.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Do you not know?

Speaker 16 You know, I don't run. I'm not the commissioner of that league, I'm the commissioner of PFBI Fantasy, of course.

Speaker 9 When's that?

Speaker 16 All right, that's uh August 28th. Thank you, Billy Varest.

Speaker 18 Your glasses are a little bit fogged up, Greg.

Speaker 9 Like, you all right?

Speaker 11 Yeah, do you want to take a moment and like, like, can you see me okay?

Speaker 9 Yes, he did.

Speaker 11 All right, because like his glasses are fogged, you know, it's

Speaker 9 on there a lot.

Speaker 9 When he talks too much,

Speaker 17 when he has to talk too much, he feels the pressure and starts to sweat.

Speaker 9 Is that it?

Speaker 16 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 11 So, Dolphins yesterday, Dolphins preseason ends in a tie.

Speaker 9 Big game, not a a big game.

Speaker 9 Dolphins,

Speaker 9 Bears.

Speaker 11 First preseason game,

Speaker 11 not a big game.

Speaker 11 That's not a big game. I'm sorry.
It's not a big game. I found myself sitting on the couch yesterday and obviously like I want to watch Tua.
I want to see how the game starts.

Speaker 11 That's right.

Speaker 11 By the way, everyone in that fitness commission, none of them knew that they were in it.

Speaker 9 How is that even possible? Hilarious.

Speaker 11 They had no idea they were even in it. You know what it reminds me of?

Speaker 22 It's very possible.

Speaker 11 Well, no, you know what it reminds reminds me of? Remember when Stephen Ross, after the Jonathan Martin bully gate, Stephen Ross put together like a commission.

Speaker 9 Yeah, whatever happened to that commission.

Speaker 11 But none of the guys who were in it knew they were going to be in it.

Speaker 9 Like Curtis Martin was in it. Jason Taylor was in it.

Speaker 5 We asked Curtis Martin, I think, like, what was that meeting like? He's like, we met once.

Speaker 5 I think Tony Dungy was also in it.

Speaker 5 We were pretty obsessed with that commission. To find out what they were actually doing, he said, we met on the phone like once.

Speaker 11 Do you think they made any progress, you know, since since then?

Speaker 20 It hasn't happened since.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 16 They agreed no bullying. Bullying, not good.
And then the commission was dissolved because they took it all their money.

Speaker 19 They said, no bullying. The guy that was bullied out of the league.
Everyone else, you're good.

Speaker 9 Stay in the league. All right.

Speaker 11 Sounds like it worked then. All right.
Maybe this will work as well. This fitness council that nobody knows that they're in.

Speaker 22 Anyway.

Speaker 5 I have three observations from the game because I was surprised I was flipping through the TV and I was surprised that it was on.

Speaker 5 And I was even more surprised to see Tua playing.

Speaker 9 It's a big deal.

Speaker 22 Everyone assumed that he was not going to play. I know it's just a drive, but Caleb Williams didn't play.
Tua famously always hurt. Shocking to me that he would play in a meaningless preseason game.

Speaker 11 Well, it's a weird thing now, right? Because when there were four preseason games, we and look, there used to be six, all right? But when there were four preseason games, we all knew. That's crazy.

Speaker 11 Crazy, right?

Speaker 20 Six preseason games.

Speaker 11 There are four preseason games we all knew. All right, the first preseason game, and no, no starters play.
The second one, starters are going to play a bit.

Speaker 11 The third one, starters are going to play a lot.

Speaker 9 That's a dress rehearsal.

Speaker 11 And then in the fourth one, just trying to win a job. All right.
You don't want to be playing in that fourth game.

Speaker 9 Don't get hurt was the fourth game. Right.

Speaker 11 Now, it's like every team just has their own rule because there's only three preseason games. Some teams don't play Caleb Williams.
Some teams play Joe Burrow. Some teams play Tuatonga Vailoa.

Speaker 11 Like there's no real reason for it anymore. So I wasn't surprised that Tua played.

Speaker 11 The only part that maybe surprised me a little bit was when the game starts like, yeah, starting left tackle, starting right tackle. They're not playing today.

Speaker 9 But Tua is like, oh, all right. That's interesting.

Speaker 16 Well,

Speaker 16 Tua did play one series last year in the first game. So it wasn't a big shock that he played.
I thought he would play one or two series.

Speaker 16 I said to my wife at the end of that game, as much as I want to make fun of preseason games and how meaningless they are, that was a pretty entertaining game, I thought.

Speaker 16 As preseason openers go, I thought that was entertaining. And not just because it went back and forth and was close, but I thought the quality of play other than Quinn Ewers,

Speaker 16 that's hilarious, by the way. Quinn Ewers has been raved about, the third-string quarterback out of Texas.
He's been raved about as being one of the stars of training camp.

Speaker 16 And he gets in the first game with fairly extended playing time, and he takes a big dump all over the field.

Speaker 19 Hold on a second. Quinn Ewers started his first two drives at like the five-yard line and like the three-yard line, respectively.
And he hit a bunch of people who were just dropping passes.

Speaker 11 He wasn't terrible.

Speaker 16 He lost two fumbles.

Speaker 19 Yeah, he did fumble the ball on the three-yard line, which is really good.

Speaker 16 I mean, he was sacked like four times. I mean, get rid of the ball.

Speaker 16 I'm just saying that after having what was seen as a really good training camp, he literally and figuratively left the ball on the ground.

Speaker 19 But Zach Wilson didn't look good either.

Speaker 9 But Zach Wilson looked terrible.

Speaker 19 He bounced passes that had two have done that.

Speaker 11 I know what a good quarterback looks like. That's not a good quarterback.

Speaker 26 Here are the stats for Quinn Urs.

Speaker 20 He closed with four of 16, 63 yards, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions, two sacks, two loss fumbles.

Speaker 26 That four of 16 is pretty bad.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 19 There were a lot of drop passes, and he was throwing in tight windows. I'm not a Quinn Euros apology.

Speaker 9 It feels like you're like leaving.

Speaker 13 I'm just staying over here.

Speaker 19 I was watching, and I was seeing, like, this isn't going great for Quinn Euros, but a lot of this was not.

Speaker 18 completely his fault.

Speaker 17 I would say the positive I took away, although it was against a guy named Bayent, the starting story.

Speaker 9 You know who that is. They played games.

Speaker 9 Bajant

Speaker 17 still deserves that qualifier.

Speaker 18 He was their backup quarterback.

Speaker 17 He deserves that qualifier. CrossFit guy.

Speaker 19 Case Keena was lighting things up yesterday, huh? No one wants.

Speaker 17 Ethan Bonner, Storm Duck. The starting secondary looked solid.
The starting defense while against Bajant looked fine.

Speaker 14 That was a good positive, I'd say.

Speaker 11 I mean, I...

Speaker 11 Everyone keeps telling me, I'm not going to sit here like I've been going to training camp, all right? Or I'm some type of analyst for PFF as pro football professionals.

Speaker 11 It's just the confidence manages to make.

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Speaker 11 Yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 11 Everyone tells me this dolphin secondary is going to be horrendous of course you know i mean minka we know minka's good all right but everyone else says this dolphin secondary is going to be terrible i'm not judging it by yesterday no caleb williams you didn't see any of their other starting receivers out there and you know what i'm going to defend quinn yours for a second here it's the first ever

Speaker 11 professional football reps that he's gotten in an actual game. He's out there with third stringers.
Like, he's out there with third stringers to throw to, third stringers blocking for him.

Speaker 11 Can we get...

Speaker 19 Also, third stringers against him, though.

Speaker 11 That's true. all right.
But Third Schringer's at the NFL level, all right? They still know how to run, rush a passer. They still know how to try and tackle, all right?

Speaker 11 I'm not going to get too hard on Quinn Yours right now. Zach Wilson, I would tell you, he looked terrible.

Speaker 11 That's, I mean, I'd much rather this one, I know it's one game in. I'd rather see Quinn Yours as the backup at this point.

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Speaker 16 The problem with the Dolphins is they have an injury-prone starting quarterback. You never know what the next concussion is always one sack away.
And they've never had a quality backup.

Speaker 9 This is the team

Speaker 16 that needs the quality backup. I mean in Tua's career.

Speaker 9 Yeah, thank you. I'm confused because

Speaker 9 Fitzpatrick was good enough.

Speaker 14 His rating was the best of the three quarterbacks at 92.8 and Tua was 85.4. What did Zach do wrong? Was it the four sacks that he took?

Speaker 11 Well, number one,

Speaker 11 he threw that one duck out, which should have been a pick six.

Speaker 19 Yeah, he should have had a pick six. He bounced passes that were like screen passes that he had to do.

Speaker 11 It would have been a walk-in touchdown on him. And he threw it about six-yard shorts.
All right. He holds onto the football.
He's in, like, what, his fourth year in the league of the year?

Speaker 9 He's wearing zero. That's just a terrible thing.
He's wearing zero.

Speaker 11 You can't take that serious. Somebody wears zero.
You can't have that on your football team.

Speaker 16 No, you can't. Not at the quarterback position.

Speaker 9 That's for sure.

Speaker 11 Give me something to feel good about, though, about the Dolphins. Was there something we saw you tried and you pooped on it?

Speaker 19 Alec Gordon looked good.

Speaker 24 I like that number 82, that punt returner that you got.

Speaker 19 Good field vision.

Speaker 9 Eskridge?

Speaker 26 I'll take your word for it, but 82 looked good.

Speaker 17 They featured Malik Washington in opening drive, and he looks good.

Speaker 24 And also, at least you don't have the patch that the Chicago Bears have on their uniform. Now, I know it's Stoner, a former owner, and they do that.

Speaker 5 That franchise.

Speaker 22 That thing is massive.

Speaker 11 Oh, is that the M?

Speaker 25 Yeah, it's for Virginia Hallis McCasky.

Speaker 24 And the M takes precedence over the H.

Speaker 18 That's bad.

Speaker 16 It's a bad tactic. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Abolish uniform accoutrements.

Speaker 9 Oh,

Speaker 9 I love a good uniform accoutrement.

Speaker 25 I love patches.

Speaker 22 But this one, this is one of the biggest memorial patches I have ever seen on a uniform.

Speaker 5 It resembles a football, and it's practically the same size as a football.

Speaker 17 What's the best accoutrement?

Speaker 18 Yeah, what's the standard for jersey accoutrements?

Speaker 11 Does this count?

Speaker 22 Stand the cup final.

Speaker 14 The Jordan logo on the Gator uniforms. Does that count?

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 30 That's a sponsor.

Speaker 20 That's a sponsor.

Speaker 8 I'm sorry. I've never seen that.
Someone has to die.

Speaker 14 That's a accoutrement when it comes to uniforms, so I'm not sure exactly what it means.

Speaker 11 Who had the best donation of life for a jersey?

Speaker 9 Hmm.

Speaker 14 Didn't Bill Russell recently? I mean, it was just the number six, but everybody knew who it was.

Speaker 9 The Lamar Hunt one on the Kansas City Chiefs uniform isn't bad.

Speaker 20 They already have one decided bears jersey for George Hallis.

Speaker 24 George Hallis, but it's that one's subtle.

Speaker 20 That one's on the sleeve.

Speaker 11 This is massive.

Speaker 20 Jackie Robinson.

Speaker 7 It looks like one of the Ray Finkel cookies.

Speaker 11 This bothered you, though, Greg.

Speaker 24 You didn't like it.

Speaker 16 No, no. I don't believe uniforms should have commercial sponsorship on them.
I don't believe they should have an homage to someone who's just passed away.

Speaker 16 And that includes anybody. Like, even if the owner has passed away, there are myriad other ways to honor that person.
Do it at halftime of the home opener. You know, have a memorial on the field.

Speaker 16 To me, a uniform is a little bit sacred. It should be pristine.

Speaker 16 The only thing on the uniform should be the team logo, maybe your name on the back and your number, as long as it's not zero for a quarterback.

Speaker 17 Coming from the guy who literally put an accoutrement on our show today, promoting his book.

Speaker 16 Yeah, well, yesterday was World Lion Day.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 16 You know, it was like a big deal.

Speaker 17 You're essentially doing to the show what is done to these uniforms. You're just putting something there.

Speaker 9 It's a little bit of a leap that people might see and like, oh, I'll go buy that. Yeah.

Speaker 11 What's wrong with that? It's look at something and acknowledge it.

Speaker 17 That's a Nike swoosh that you've put on our show today.

Speaker 9 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 14 Only if he put it on his actual shirt. That's not a uniform.
There's nothing else.

Speaker 9 Look at the shot right now. It's a little thing in the corner.
I'm like, what is that? Oh, I can go buy that.

Speaker 19 Yesterday wasn't World Nike Day, okay? It was World Lions Day. Yes, thank you.
If it was World Nike Day, you put the swoosh on the jerseys. That makes sense.
Right.

Speaker 16 World Lion Day. Don't take that lightly.

Speaker 14 Not to be confused with World Lions Day, an entirely different celebration that I could tell you all about.

Speaker 9 Yes. Well, what is that?

Speaker 14 Oh, yeah, you're not asking about it. If there was a World Lions Day, I would be the one to tell you about it because I am Honolulu Izzy, the Detroit Lions expert.
Well,

Speaker 5 you had quite the first assignment there, a suspended game.

Speaker 14 It was interesting because I don't know if you noticed my shirt, by the way, solid Honolulu Blue. This is going through stages, my transformation into Honolulu Izzy.

Speaker 14 And so the first game, man, was that stressful. Here we're all trying to figure out, oh, who's the backup quarterback going to be? Is it going to be Kyle Allen? We don't know.

Speaker 14 And then all of a sudden, you've got a running back, Maurice Norris, on the field, just passed out. And everybody, you know, it's scary in a preseason game where we got the prayer circles.

Speaker 14 Earlier in the game, by the way.

Speaker 11 I feel like this happened too much this week.

Speaker 9 Well, you could have known.

Speaker 14 The Dolphins, I mean, sorry. Sorry, sorry.
The Lions should have known that it was going to be a bad day in injury when they had an offensive lineman get hurt basically for the season during warm-ups.

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 14 And so in the beginning of the fourth quarter, when Norris went down and got sent to a hospital, both teams, the Atlanta Falcons and the Lions, they snapped the ball one more time, but didn't actually do anything and let's let the clock go out.

Speaker 14 So the NFL said, hey, okay, this game's over.

Speaker 11 Quite the the gesture uh very next day he's fine don't stress it no worries so everybody's good we can go back to thinking about the backup quarterback situation and just so you know it's kyle allen by a long shot right now he's way ahead of the third stringer whose name i do not remember oh hendon hooker so they snapped the ball once the player left the field after being down for a long time the ambulance came out they took him off the field the players i guess didn't want to play anymore right and they snapped the football with like 14 some odd minutes left in the fourth and they all just stood there and prayed while the the clock was running because no one was touching the football, right?

Speaker 9 That is correct.

Speaker 14 That's what happened. And you know what? That's probably what they should have done in the Buffalo game during the season where a player actually lost a life.

Speaker 10 Wasn't that the first quarter though?

Speaker 14 That's a lot of time to just say, you know, just canceled the game. Somebody died on the field.

Speaker 11 So the Dolphins yesterday, I think what grabbed our attention the most, right, was the very first drive of the game. Two is marching them down the field.
It's like a 10-plus minute drive.

Speaker 11 They converted a fourth down. They converted one or two third downs as well.
And

Speaker 11 they get to the one-yard line and they run the ball four times. And the reaction that I saw, people were angry.
They're running the ball four straight times. Did they get in? No, they got stopped.

Speaker 11 Yeah, the drive stalled on the one-yard line. They did not get in.

Speaker 11 And isn't the whole point in preseason? Look, we're not good at this thing. We're not good at running the ball short-yarded situations.

Speaker 11 In the regular season, we're not going to do something four times that we're not good at, but it's the preseason. We want to work on something.

Speaker 11 Why was everyone getting all wrapped up in Mike McDaniel's play calling?

Speaker 14 Well, you want to work on it in practice so that when you get to the preseason game, preseason is practice. To get one yard is there.
Not just one time, but two times. three times or four times.

Speaker 17 If you are going to do that, you should, or you're going to work on that, you should be able to accomplish that against second stringers in a preseason game so I'd be pretty annoyed too the next drive they did the exact same thing and Alexander Madison got in on like fourth down and barely got in so I guess credit to them for working on it but it seems like this is not going to be an effective play for them I'm more just curious what they're going to do in the regular season because what we've seen in the past is Mike McDaniel first down and then he's going to throw it three times so it's like if you're working on this to actually okay we've improved at it I'm going to now in the regular season I trust my team to do this I'm skeptical that we're just going to see Mike McDaniel, oh, first down, it fails.

Speaker 17 I'm going to go to my safety point.

Speaker 14 Which to me is a sign that it's not working for him.

Speaker 14 When you are this offensive mastermind, supposedly you've got, oh, I've got all these different ways to get yardage, but now you've circled back to, oh, I got to get that one yard.

Speaker 14 I got to do it the tough way, and I'm just going to keep doing it that same way over and over again. Otherwise, we're just not going to get it done.

Speaker 14 That just means you're out of ideas and we're going to go the old tough route when the Dolphins, historically, not very tough.

Speaker 16 Well, the frustration to me is that in Devon Han, they have one of the fastest running backs in the entire league.

Speaker 11 And they were running the ball really well with him then. That's right.

Speaker 16 And my point is, instead of running right up the middle, battering your head into a wall, how about you pitch the ball to HN? How about you run wide?

Speaker 16 How about you take advantage of his speed at least once out of four down?

Speaker 18 That doesn't really work on the goal line, right?

Speaker 11 I don't think he was in for any of those goal line plays, right?

Speaker 16 No, he wasn't, but maybe he should have been.

Speaker 14 Well, Tyreek Hill already told us he shouldn't be in there in those short-yarded situations because he's small.

Speaker 9 Well, he literally did that all last year.

Speaker 17 H-HM was like terrible in short-yarded situations.

Speaker 19 I think the concern yesterday was you just realized like running backs are not very big. Like they're not going to bully and run anyone over right now.

Speaker 14 In combination with bad play calling, it's just never good. When you said the fourth down conversion in that first drive, I lit up.
I was like, wow, what was the play call on that?

Speaker 14 Because last year, their play calls on fourth down were terrible.

Speaker 11 No, the play call on that fourth down, I think it was a pass over the middle, wasn't it? I think that was one of the fourth down completions there.

Speaker 11 But But so that stood out, obviously, from yesterday with them not being able to run the ball on the goal line, even though overall on that drive, they actually ran the ball pretty well with Devont A-chan.

Speaker 11 Otherwise, I liked Ollie Gordon. Like, Ollie Gordon was a big-time running back going into last season at Oklahoma.

Speaker 11 I mean, he had small field stuff, so it took some like Heisman consideration attention away from him. But he was a big-time running back in college.
I liked what I saw from Ollie Gordon.

Speaker 11 I hope he winds up making the team. Otherwise, there's not a whole lot to chat about there yesterday with that dolphin game, unless I'm missing anything.

Speaker 16 No, I mean, that's the thing about preseason games now.

Speaker 16 They're meaningless.

Speaker 16 They're meaningful for the player who's on the edge of making the team. That's the only thing that matters in the whole world to those players.
But to fans,

Speaker 16 to media, like, why does anybody care? An example I always give, the year the Dolphins went 17-0, the perfect season, they went 2-3 in the preseason.

Speaker 16 Like, there's no correlation between winning and losing in the preseason and how you're going to do that season.

Speaker 14 But did you see that 70-yard field goal, though, Greg?

Speaker 16 I did, and it didn't count. How about that?

Speaker 14 But it counts if you talk about it.

Speaker 9 Well,

Speaker 4 does it?

Speaker 9 It counts if there are points on the board.

Speaker 16 I think somebody has kicked a 75-yard field goal in pregame warm-ups, right? Why don't we never talk about that?

Speaker 24 That's a good point by Greg.

Speaker 5 Advantage, Craig. I will say that if you listen to people around the league, these coaches tend to value these split squad practices that they have.

Speaker 5 Like the Dolphins are traveling to Detroit to work out with the Detroit.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they're on the road for like 11 straight days, right?

Speaker 14 Yeah, it's a weird trick. Did you say the Lions? You should also know that the actual field goal record of 66 yards by Justin Tucker was kicked against the Lions.

Speaker 5 Hana Lulu Izzy all over it. But yeah, they value these way more, and they seem to have genuine effort.
That's why you get in all these fights.

Speaker 5 Those videos should start trickling in on social media.

Speaker 11 Did you see that the Dolphins in this joint practice this past Friday, I think it was, this joint practice they had in Chicago with the Bears, that there was a fight.

Speaker 11 There was a fight among Dolphin players on the field. Like the Dolphins' defense were fighting each other during the joints.
No, not

Speaker 24 the other team.

Speaker 11 No, they were fighting each other.

Speaker 16 And McDaniel broke it up.

Speaker 11 Yeah, McDaniel ran onto the field and he had to break it up.

Speaker 19 And if Mike McDaniel's breaking it up, it's not a real fight.

Speaker 9 Let's be real. I mean, man.

Speaker 16 That was my thought, to be honest with you.

Speaker 19 I mean, a little guy, like, what, five, eight, 65 inches, whatever Samson says, running in massive guys with all the pads. He's not bringing that up.

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Speaker 18 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 8 All right, we got to go back out there. That was big.

Speaker 9 Wake him up.

Speaker 21 Uh-oh.

Speaker 21 He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result.
He needs something that happens.

Speaker 9 You can see Mother F.O.

Speaker 21 Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg.

Speaker 9 My microphone's on.

Speaker 21 Stugats. Paint the scene.

Speaker 16 The paint the scene is I gotta go to work.

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Speaker 11 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 5 I did sample a lot of the preseason NFL because there were people that I was interested in seeing.

Speaker 26 Because you were bored this weekend.

Speaker 5 Well, no, I certainly was not bored this weekend at all, but I tried my best to follow the sport, you know, social media and whatnot. You look for throws.

Speaker 29 You look for individual highlights.

Speaker 5 I wasn't able to watch Cam Ward's full game, but but I did.

Speaker 9 He looked good, right?

Speaker 5 I saw some highlights, but I think the talk of the NFL in terms of that position rookie was that people were more dialed in to see what Shador Sanders would do.

Speaker 5 I gotta say, those are NFL throws, my man.

Speaker 9 He looked good.

Speaker 11 I'm watching, so it's Friday night. The Browns are on NFL Network, all right? Those are my colleagues now, you know, because I also work at ESPN.
Those are my coworkers.

Speaker 11 And the game's on NFL Network, and I have it on the small TV in the Zaszlo Mansion fan. I'm not putting Browns preseason on the big TV, Greg, all right?

Speaker 11 So I got the Browns preseason game on the small TV in the Zaslow Mansion family room. Yes, because on the big TV, obviously, I'm watching Friday Night SmackDown.

Speaker 11 And in the middle of the game, my son, my 16-year-old, comes running into him and goes, put the Browns game on. Shaddur is dealing.
I got him plus six and a half.

Speaker 11 Like a true degenerate gambling on Shaddur Sanders and the preseason game. But Mike's right.
Like,

Speaker 16 I'm watching Shadur for, I mean, he played the entire first half he looked pretty good Greg yeah he's he he gets so much attention whether it's due or undue I read something that Shaddur's mother was dressed inappropriately at the game or something like that really cares who cares about any of that prove yourself you know he he okay he looked pretty good in his first preseason game means zero in terms of what kind of a rookie season he's going to have or whether or or not he wins a starting job.

Speaker 16 I think the betting odds are against him winning the starting job.

Speaker 9 Well, I think that they may have changed.

Speaker 11 Are the betting odds against him winning the starting job because it's like, all right, Joe Flacco is definitely going to start? It doesn't, like, it doesn't even matter if Shadur were to win the job.

Speaker 11 Joe Flacco started.

Speaker 9 One game in.

Speaker 18 It seems pretty ridiculous.

Speaker 29 He was drafted where he was drafted.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 14 You're getting the full LeBron James endorsement, which normally not a good thing, at least not in his.

Speaker 11 Hey, endorse Shabazz Napier.

Speaker 14 Take it easy. In basketball, it's not a good thing.
In football, it's okay. And my thought on Shadur watching him in college was he did what he thought he could get away with.

Speaker 14 So sometimes that meant sort of a different type of pass, maybe sitting back there in the pocket a little bit too much. But when he needed to, he had the NFL throws.

Speaker 14 So if he can eliminate the silly stuff and just not play overconfident football and just make those NFL throws, I think he's always had it.

Speaker 22 Oh, I think I read on social media that he had an altercation. I didn't know that it was caught on video, that he had an altercation with Tony Grossi.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so, all right, so Shadur had, he had a really good first preseason start. Like, no one can say otherwise.
He had a really, really good start. And so after the game, Tony Grossi, who is a

Speaker 11 Grossi, who is a, whatever, man.

Speaker 28 Yeah, you know, well, what you were about to say, he's a legendary Cleveland Browns beat Robert.

Speaker 11 No, you know, don't put words in my mouth. He's a long time, not legendary, long time.

Speaker 9 He's both cold, man.

Speaker 17 He's both. He felt like a shot in my chest.

Speaker 11 Whatever, man. I don't know.
He's the great Bob. Maybe it's being respectful to your dad.
Maybe not everybody gets to be called legendary.

Speaker 22 He's a Greg Cody of Browns beat them.

Speaker 9 Another insult.

Speaker 22 Him and Mary Kay Cabot have been around covering that team since they were the old Browns.

Speaker 11 Okay, so Tony Grossi, you know, everything that Mike just said, is after the game. I don't know if you did you see this, Greg? Do you know what we're doing?

Speaker 16 I saw it after the fact.

Speaker 11 Okay, so Shadur.

Speaker 17 Well, none of us saw it live.

Speaker 9 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 11 Well, yeah, because we weren't there. So Shadur, who had a really good game,

Speaker 9 listen or watch this.

Speaker 11 He confronts Tony Grossi in the hall after the game.

Speaker 11 I've been hoping you got something positive to say about the father. You only say negative stuff properly.

Speaker 11 And I'm like, I ain't do nothing to you.

Speaker 11 I've been talking about everything. But I was about to say, come on, Tony.

Speaker 11 What I do.

Speaker 17 It's hard to hear what Tony's saying, but you can clearly hear Shadur like, dude, say something nice about me.

Speaker 14 Grossie.

Speaker 5 That was actually pretty pleasant for that type of exchange, but it's also days after Deion Sanders says Shadur doesn't pay attention to any of the press clippings.

Speaker 17 Maybe wait till week one of the regular season to do that.

Speaker 19 That's my only thing.

Speaker 11 Well, so that's the obvious counter is, okay, you just played a half of preseason football, likely against other guys who may not even make the league, and you're a fifth-round pick.

Speaker 11 Maybe we're not confronting reporters after a half of football.

Speaker 14 to me after watching that clip it i don't think it's something where he sought him out it felt like he saw him and he was like oh yeah this guy doesn't have a whole lot of good things to say about me and then had that confrontation which was pretty lighthearted i think it was tot totally fine i'm on board with sanders doing that totally play on for me that's uh as cute uh as one of those can go honestly it's great publicity for tony grossi quite frankly and and for shadore my reaction is you're a rookie in the nfl you have a lot on your plate.

Speaker 16 Why are you worried about what somebody is writing about?

Speaker 9 Remember, he doesn't.

Speaker 20 We've been told he doesn't actually worry about it.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah, okay.

Speaker 11 None of the players ever pay attention. Anything written or said, never do.

Speaker 4 Has anything like that happened to you, Greg?

Speaker 5 Because we said Tony Grossi is basically the Greg Cody of the Browns beat.

Speaker 11 I'm wondering if... I don't think that's true, though, because Cody has a very...
Cody's, at least what I think, his reputation is,

Speaker 11 I think, is someone who's very pleasant, while Tony Grossi, I'm pretty sure, is a reputation as someone who's super negative.

Speaker 10 He's more, I mean, he covers the Browns.

Speaker 28 You would be too.

Speaker 22 Not a lot of great stuff has happened there.

Speaker 24 Like, there's not a lot of times that Tony Grossi's on the wrong side of this.

Speaker 9 You know what I mean?

Speaker 9 But they're a little different.

Speaker 24 Greg loves the covering the Dolphins, is synonymous with Covering the Dolphins. He's more of a columnist, so he's not around.

Speaker 9 Tony Grossi is still about that life, day in, day out, Berea Ohio.

Speaker 16 Yeah, that's a big difference. See, I'm rarely

Speaker 16 at a Dolphins practice or in their locker room for that. You're above that.
Except, yeah, well, I like to think so. Except after a game,

Speaker 16 I'll be in the locker room.

Speaker 17 How many dolphins right now, and I'm not trying, I'm just asking, would be, like, would know who Greg Cody is, you think?

Speaker 16 I, you know, I have no idea. I would like to think.

Speaker 11 Does Tua know who you are?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 19 Greg's not a Dolphins beat reporter, though.

Speaker 11 Does Tyreek Hill know who you are?

Speaker 16 I would imagine so. I mean,

Speaker 16 the better question is, do the Dolphins read the Miami Herald? If the answer is yes, then I would think they know who I am.

Speaker 28 am they just see the aggregation social media in print form i would say you've got like tyreek like his wife

Speaker 11 walks out to the driveway

Speaker 20 back to back to the original question though have you ever had anything like that occasionally over the years can you can you share with me in the audience because i'm curious to know like if you've ever had testy exchanges with players so i can know who on my list i can hate to join aj burnett who once called izzy ugly i didn't like that one bit who did yeah aj burnett called izzy ugly what i know factually incorrect izzy's not ugly

Speaker 11 Were you ugly that day, maybe?

Speaker 14 I don't think so.

Speaker 16 Wow. AJ Burnett.

Speaker 16 Come on now.

Speaker 11 What do you ever do?

Speaker 16 I know. No hitter.

Speaker 9 No hitter. Okay.

Speaker 23 Say it. Eight walks, though, but yeah.

Speaker 16 There have been hundreds of no-hitters thrown.

Speaker 17 I think he had like the most walks and a no-hitter.

Speaker 14 Might have been nine.

Speaker 9 Did he, really?

Speaker 11 Yeah, at least at the time, his eight-walk no-hitter was the most

Speaker 14 the headline is effectively wild.

Speaker 23 Didn't he also knock out a window up a truck that was driving by?

Speaker 11 But he claims he did it on purpose, right?

Speaker 19 That was 100% on purpose. It was not even close to the strike zone.
It was in-between innings, you know, Billy Lamarland going around on a truck.

Speaker 19 He just decided, you know what, I'm going to try to break this truck.

Speaker 9 Oh, you're going to drive by a truck? He tried to hit Billy with the ball. Just haven't hit him with him.

Speaker 25 World Series 2.

Speaker 20 Two-time World Series champion.

Speaker 24 I know he was hurt for 03, but he did win one with the Yankees.

Speaker 11 Well, be careful because Jeff Conine was very quick to point out when I brought up to him last week. Conine was very quick to point out he's the only active player

Speaker 9 on both World Series.

Speaker 17 One of the more memorable parts of that where he's just like, Louis, technically not.

Speaker 9 Doesn't count. Wow.
I mean, he played that because Louis got a ring.

Speaker 18 Right. He wasn't on the Ross.

Speaker 11 Louis was absolutely on both teams.

Speaker 11 No, I was the only active one.

Speaker 26 Trust me.

Speaker 23 Can we just, if we're going to...

Speaker 8 I didn't really understand that.

Speaker 19 I know he's friends with David, and he came in because David wanted him to come in, but he didn't seem to want to be part of any of what we were doing that day, right?

Speaker 22 He apparently had a great time.

Speaker 9 That's what David, like, David said he texted him about me afterwards.

Speaker 17 He said how awesome I was.

Speaker 22 He's dry.

Speaker 5 And also, I heard he came into town with a bit of a reputation of having one of those Adrian Peterson handshakes.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So I gave him the business and I dominated that.

Speaker 23 I probably went in too aggressive.

Speaker 11 So we're going to try for a third time now.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 11 What is one of those occasions that you were confronted negatively?

Speaker 9 It's happened by a player.

Speaker 16 The only one that stands out in my mind was, I forget what city it was, but it was a road game many years ago. And

Speaker 16 Tim Bowens, I think.

Speaker 9 That's a tough one to get.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 9 I lose that one right away.

Speaker 9 You're right, Mr. Bowens.
Yes, sir. Anything else I could do for you? It's a scary one.

Speaker 16 And

Speaker 16 there was some yelling involved.

Speaker 2 Were you yelling back at him?

Speaker 18 I don't recall.

Speaker 16 No, I don't recall.

Speaker 18 Let's go. Paint the picture.

Speaker 9 Give us the details.

Speaker 16 I mean, I don't.

Speaker 16 Look when he played for the Dolphins. This is probably in the 90s.
I mean, I don't remember details.

Speaker 4 I got to tell you, if I get yelled at

Speaker 23 by Tim Bowens,

Speaker 4 I remember every little detail.

Speaker 25 Okay, that's all right.

Speaker 25 You're taking a try.

Speaker 7 Let me, you know, same question.

Speaker 22 Is he Gutierrez?

Speaker 20 You've been on the beat.

Speaker 14 I got a couple of them. There's one with a coach that's less exciting, but I'll tell you that one in a second.

Speaker 14 There was one time now that I think about it where I pissed off Shaquille O'Neal and we were on the road, or they were on the road at a practice.

Speaker 14 And during the practice, he mimicked, where's my camera? He mimicked.

Speaker 9 He goes, you, me,

Speaker 9 and he went. What's through his leg? What's he breaking?

Speaker 14 He broke a stick, apparently. That was our relationship.

Speaker 9 And I was like,

Speaker 9 what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 14 And I asked the PR guy about it. He goes, apparently he's not happy with you.
And I was like, well, no shit. The mumbler.
And then the second one was a coach. It was Tyron Liu.

Speaker 14 While I had been doing the jump on regular occasion on ESPN, Rest in Power, the Jump.

Speaker 14 And I said something about LeBron James being the real coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers. And so, which is a joke everybody was doing the entirety of LeBron James's career.
I just threw that in there.

Speaker 14 And, you know, it was lazy on my my part. And so one time I was in a hallway doing a Cavs game.
It might have been Cavs Warriors, I don't remember.

Speaker 14 And I see Tyron Liu flanked by two of his, one security guy and one assistant coach walking down the middle of the hallway.

Speaker 14 And then after he passes me, stops, turns around, comes back, and he goes, you know what, I got something to tell you.

Speaker 14 He's like, the other day you were on that show and you said that LeBron was the real coach and you got all the chuckles out of me. Ha ha ha.
He's like, that shit pisses me off.

Speaker 14 He's like, I hear that all the time. And I actually like you.
I respect you. And to hear you say that really bothered me i was like you know what ty

Speaker 14 you're right i mean just the fact that you're able to come up and talk to me about this cool you're right never do it again my bad that see that that's how you give details of a story yeah but that that was how many years ago just make it up uh

Speaker 16 six seven years ago oh no i'm not gonna make it up actually eight nine years ago it didn't come to blows tim tim bowen never threw a punch at you what'd you say what did i say it was something i'd written some something derogatory about the defense i don't remember did he break a stick over over his leg and point at you?

Speaker 16 No, he did not. Do you remember a conversation you had 25 years ago?

Speaker 25 I doubt it.

Speaker 20 I do remember the memorable ones.

Speaker 22 If Tim Bowens yelled at me, I'd be like, yeah, that was one that certainly gets filed away.

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