Hour 2: Remember COVID? (feat. Amin Elhassan)

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Speaker 18 This is the Dan Labator Show with the Stoogats Podcast.

Speaker 19 I know that you guys don't want to talk about anything but football, but Amino Hassan is going to be here in a moment with some of his weekend observations.

Speaker 19 I still don't think we've gotten appropriately to the story about Gator player spits on someone, and that's the reason that they lose as an 18-point favorite to South Florida at home.

Speaker 17 Were there three spitting incidents last week?

Speaker 19 Well, four if you count Dak Prescott,

Speaker 19 if you make it two separate spitting incidents, but yes, it's a little bit strange to have four of these spitting incidents in

Speaker 1 10 days.

Speaker 2 If you're the Eagles coach in the next team meeting with Jalen Carter, are you like, see what you did?

Speaker 9 Now the Gators are doing it.

Speaker 9 See the imprint that you have on these kids?

Speaker 23 Negative role model.

Speaker 25 I don't think that came up.

Speaker 22 Be better. It's a coaching moment.

Speaker 1 Remember, like, COVID?

Speaker 19 Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 25 Imagine spitting on people during COVID.

Speaker 19 It's a good point, but we don't have time for it because we've got to move to all the other things happening all across sports and community.

Speaker 26 I think you go to jail if you spit on someone during COVID, right?

Speaker 7 Like, actually, I think you would have gone to jail if not prison.

Speaker 27 It's always true.

Speaker 28 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 19 Put it on the poll, Juju at Lebatard show. Would you have gone to prison if you had spit on someone during COVID?

Speaker 21 We can't get to that.

Speaker 19 No, we don't have time for that.

Speaker 19 But just if we're going to just glance through tennis and oh, what, an all-time great set? Everyone's better than him now. Okay, let's just move on.
How about NASCAR? Mike, where's your gear head?

Speaker 19 Get the gear head, put it on. You'll have one chance at this because we've got too much to talk about today.
So you're going to have to do it like they do with the cars in that sport fast.

Speaker 29 Okay, Denny Raymond.

Speaker 32 That's the best story in motorsports right now because not only is he suing NASCAR, but he's also an active driver.

Speaker 34 And he's a driver

Speaker 32 trying to chase down his first ever NASCAR championship.

Speaker 31 That's right.

Speaker 34 Denny Hamlin's been a name that you've probably known tangentially with that sport for 20 plus years.

Speaker 38 He's won Daytona a few times, but he's never won the big one, the big one being a championship.

Speaker 34 He won the race yesterday, gave another trademark heelish speech, but there might be anti-hero vibes here for Denny Hamlin because he's trying to reform the sport, a sport that does need reforming and he's going to do it potentially by winning this championship and demanding he be heard.

Speaker 31 Here's Denny Hamlin after winning the most recent NASCAR race.

Speaker 19 Y'all can boo me, but you can either get on the bandwagon or you can get run over by it.

Speaker 11 You still love the booze?

Speaker 15 Bring them.

Speaker 39 Bring them all.

Speaker 25 The lame trash dog.

Speaker 15 You think that's lame?

Speaker 17 That's iconic. The guy is suing NASCAR.

Speaker 11 He's like, either get on the bandwagon or get run over it.

Speaker 19 What do you, Chris? He is in full villain mode.

Speaker 19 You don't like when a guy is challenging everyone in his sport to a fight?

Speaker 22 Just seemed kind of lame to me.

Speaker 11 Like, oh, get on board or get run over.

Speaker 35 You're kind of lame to me. That is

Speaker 17 so badass. He's suing NASCAR.

Speaker 19 He doesn't want to talk about anything except football.

Speaker 27 What's a lawsuit about? Yeah.

Speaker 33 Charters.

Speaker 27 Because they're not.

Speaker 29 Charters.

Speaker 35 Yeah, we went over this during the Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's among the teams suing NASCAR right now because the charter system is unfair.

Speaker 41 You essentially pay a franchise fee and it puts you in the hole.

Speaker 37 It's impossible to make money in this sport.

Speaker 34 Michael Jordan's fine losing money, but he's not being fine with your disrespect. And Denny Hamlin's not fine with it either.

Speaker 35 Now, even though Denny Hamlin races for another team, Joe Gibbs Racing, he co-owns that team with Michael Jordan.

Speaker 35 So he's trying to win this Cup Series for Joe Gibbs Racing, all while trying to fight for he and Michael Jordan's team to get access to charters and reform the sport.

Speaker 32 It's incredibly brave, incredibly vulnerable, dangerous even.

Speaker 41 In fact, some people were having fun with the fact that while he was crossing

Speaker 36 the checkered flag, the feed actually cut out.

Speaker 31 So you didn't get a great call of Denny Hamlin winning this race, but then he talked that shit afterwards.

Speaker 34 Danny Hamlin becoming likable.

Speaker 7 Why is he racing for someone else's team? Like, if you own your own team, wouldn't winning a championship for yourself be better than winning one for someone else?

Speaker 27 Boring suit. Oh.

Speaker 36 He needs to win as the driver, though, to cement his legacy as a fancy.

Speaker 19 I want to apologize to you that you get so little support when you talk NASCAR right now.

Speaker 29 It's NASCAR.

Speaker 35 It's a Football Monday. It's fine.

Speaker 26 Let me charter.

Speaker 32 You guys obviously weren't dialed into TV1, the Enjoy Illinois 300.

Speaker 35 That was a TV one with sound for me.

Speaker 19 I'm going to try with Amin El Hassan here in a moment to keep as much football out of this hour as I can because I'd like to have a show that is a little bit balanced, if we could, on these football Mondays as we get overrun.

Speaker 18 Well, what are you thinking?

Speaker 21 What have you got?

Speaker 43 Football, football, football.

Speaker 19 What shots have you not gotten off today?

Speaker 27 I don't need to get off shots.

Speaker 26 I'm just here to talk some football.

Speaker 15 What do you want? Football is back.

Speaker 27 Jack stays back. Thank you, Greg.
Greg gets it.

Speaker 25 Football is back, Jack. Damn, right.
Right.

Speaker 19 Do you have anything other than that, though? Like, if you want to talk football for real,

Speaker 19 what have we not talked about that the Duke has not opined?

Speaker 3 We talked about the Steelers already.

Speaker 26 We talked about the Dawns.

Speaker 27 Not looking to review what we have talked about.

Speaker 19 we were talking about spitting we stopped talking about spitting for a little bit plenty of college going around the shoe-ables right around the corner we talked about that earlier there's football to be talked about there is but also uh there is to be talked about uh monday night tilt tonight jonathan zaslow's meteoric ascent through the uh priciest places in media entertainment he is flying first class yeah baby he is landing in suites he's sending me photos every time he lands in a suite i did he is getting giant rooms on the road because of how good his college football coverage is.

Speaker 17 I will be honest, week one, my suite, it was a little too big,

Speaker 17 but this week,

Speaker 17 that was the right kind of, that was the right size suite.

Speaker 19 How about first class?

Speaker 19 What are the first class adventures you've been experiencing? Very few people at ESPN get first class.

Speaker 17 So I'm not a big first class guy my entire life, but I'm flying first class now. Mike, I didn't appreciate you trying to call me out on my way to Dallas this weekend.

Speaker 1 It didn't look like first class.

Speaker 21 It wasn't first class.

Speaker 17 Well, it wasn't because I was flying southwest. Yeah.
I was sitting in the first place.

Speaker 21 Was there a reason for that?

Speaker 17 No, I mean, it was direct flight, so I flew southwest.

Speaker 36 Is there a shortage of premium airliners flying from South Florida to Dallas?

Speaker 21 It seems like

Speaker 43 you wanted to go?

Speaker 24 That's a hub city to hub city.

Speaker 27 You understand that?

Speaker 17 That's the time I wanted to go. So I was sitting in the front seat in Southwest, but on the way back, I was sitting first class, or I wasn't on Southwest.

Speaker 17 I was flying American on the way back, and I was sitting first class. And let me tell you something.
This first class, pretty good. Pretty good.
We're about to take off.

Speaker 17 See, I'm not used to first class. We're about to take off and the young lady, she comes up, goes, sir, can I get you a drink? And I think about it for a second.
Before takeoff? Before takeoff.

Speaker 17 And I think about it for a second. I'm like, yeah, whiskey.
On the rocks. Let's get after it, you know? Why the hell not? You're not flying.
I'm not flying the plane.

Speaker 17 And so I'm drinking my whiskey, you know, whatever. And then like 25 minutes later, we're about to take off.
She comes up to me. She's like, sir, I have to take your drink.
I'm like, oh, really?

Speaker 17 I guess you can't have the drink while we're... I'm not flying the plane.
Why can't I drink my drink while we're taking off? Is something going to happen? Is there going to be like...

Speaker 1 You got to have your tray tables up. So where's the drink go?

Speaker 17 In my hand?

Speaker 27 You got that nine arm.

Speaker 15 They're not strapping my arms down.

Speaker 32 They're usually not good with trusting you to do that the right way.

Speaker 17 So, so she wants to take it. So I take a huge gulp, obviously, Greg.

Speaker 42 As one, I'm not trying to let the whiskey go away.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you got to savor that.

Speaker 17 It tastes so good when it touches my lips does she even know who you were when she took it from you who cares man she took it i don't think

Speaker 17 she is mickey harison so i i take a huge gulp it doesn't you know it's not all of it i'm not trying to make the face when you take a big sip of whiskey you're like no i'm a grown up i'm a grown-up i don't make faces when i drink my whiskey and so i i give her back the drink is still a little bit of it left i'm a little bit annoyed you know i mean it's not her fault but i'm a little bit annoyed because like man like i'm you know i'm gonna pay for that drink and you're taking it from me i was a little bit annoyed and then right when we after we take off she comes right back up to me and she goes sir what brands were you drinking i'm gonna bring you another drink like oh hell yeah and i told her wood for reserve please

Speaker 17 and that's when i realized oh i'm not even paying for these drinks they're just coming for free i didn't even know that and then she comes up to me a little bit after that like sir would you like dinner i'm like oh what do you have and so i order some kind of pasta salad i thought i was gonna get like some little bowl She brings me an entire plate.

Speaker 17 I got this pasta salad. I got a side of veggies.
I got another little salad. I got a cake.
This plate was so big.

Speaker 17 I had to move my iPad off my tray where I'm watching football to make room for this spread that she brought me. This first class is incredible.

Speaker 15 What are you?

Speaker 27 Jed Clampett and Beverly Hills?

Speaker 11 You've never flown first class before?

Speaker 29 I had a great flight home.

Speaker 17 This was was wonderful. And then

Speaker 19 look at old privilege over here. He's talking to one of the original Beverly Hill Billies, the old guy.

Speaker 44 But Greg Cody looking down his nose at others because

Speaker 40 his wife's a law partner.

Speaker 29 Not because the sports writers getting first class.

Speaker 21 Did you hear about the cake? He got cake at the bottom.

Speaker 44 A little bit of a cake right there.

Speaker 27 Okay.

Speaker 18 A little bit of a cake right there.

Speaker 29 What kind of cake?

Speaker 17 I don't know. It was some like honey BS.
I don't know, man. It wasn't acid.
Free cake.

Speaker 24 Yeah, it was that free cake.

Speaker 29 First class,

Speaker 17 and so, you know, I ate up all the food, and then they took my tray. And then guess what happened next, Billy? What? She said, would you like another drink? What?

Speaker 20 You said no, thank you.

Speaker 15 You're hammered at this point.

Speaker 29 You're wrong about that, Billy.

Speaker 17 I said, yes, I would like another, please.

Speaker 19 So you have taken off, though. You're in your first hour, and you're four whiskeys in.

Speaker 17 Yeah, this is like the first 30 minutes.

Speaker 17 I'm hammered, but, you know, 45 minutes into this flight, I'm having a great time.

Speaker 19 Greg Cody, has the Miami Herald ever bought bought you a first-class flight?

Speaker 27 Uh, no.

Speaker 19 So, like, what are you saying that you've never flown first class? Because he's excited about first class. Why are you first-class shaming it?

Speaker 27 I'm not, but you are.

Speaker 19 You called him Jed Clampett, the original Beverly Hillbill.

Speaker 23 I don't even know what that reference means.

Speaker 33 I'm so happy for his success. Thanks, man.

Speaker 15 That sounded incredible.

Speaker 32 He made first class seem like a place that, you know, that's goals, right?

Speaker 21 I loved it.

Speaker 17 I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 7 Now, are you going to continue flying first class? Well, it depends.

Speaker 17 If it's available on the flight, like, it's not necessarily available on every flight that I choose, like, you know, my Southwest flight on the way there this weekend.

Speaker 23 Because here, here's my question.

Speaker 2 I don't mean to upset you potentially here, but

Speaker 3 you're not exactly dressing first class.

Speaker 27 Don't you worry about that.

Speaker 7 I feel like when you go first class, you have to wear a certain, you have to have a certain look about you.

Speaker 23 It's not a backwards heat hat

Speaker 7 and a wrinkly t-shirt.

Speaker 29 You'd be wrong.

Speaker 22 Some guy in business attire with his laptop open. I'm like, this guy's seen.

Speaker 25 I think you need a sport coat with all due respect. First class.

Speaker 32 He knows what first class looks like.

Speaker 1 You got to wear a watch.

Speaker 17 Yeah, let me ask you a question. Between all of us, this room and that room right there.
Who flew first class this weekend? Raise your hand.

Speaker 46 Oh, wow.

Speaker 17 What a shocker. I'm the only one with my hand raised.
So I'm pretty sure I know what you need to do

Speaker 20 when you're in first class.

Speaker 7 Everyone's wearing a watch in first class.

Speaker 27 Nobody else flew this weekend.

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Speaker 19 Put it on the poll at Lebatard show.

Speaker 19 Is it okay?

Speaker 19 to fall asleep last night with five minutes left in the Sunday night football game.

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Speaker 36 Hey, listeners, it's Mike.

Speaker 48 Hey, Billy Gill.

Speaker 28 Hey.

Speaker 48 Hey, Billy, as a proud member of your inner circle, remember when we were hanging out last weekend?

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Speaker 48 Fishtail palms, great memories we made, kids playing in the pool, and in our hands, a nice ice-cold can of Miller Life.

Speaker 33 It was so hot out.

Speaker 20 I know, but it was so cold in my hand.

Speaker 41 We took that first sip. It was crisp.
It was refreshing.

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Speaker 24 Whether it's that touchdown.

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Speaker 46 Don Lebatard.

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Speaker 46 This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats.

Speaker 2 Zaz, were you filling in for someone on Friday who just didn't go to work to cook?

Speaker 7 Oh my God.

Speaker 17 Yeah, well, I do every Friday night with Amber Wilson. She hosts Amber and Ian on ESPN Radio.
That's Ian Fitzsimmons.

Speaker 17 But I do the show with her on Friday nights because we travel and we do the show on location wherever we are.

Speaker 24 But listen to this crap.

Speaker 17 Ian Fitzsimmons lives in Dallas, Texas. So instead of doing his show on Friday night, which I'm glad to do the show, I want to do the show.

Speaker 17 But instead of doing the show that his name is on, he was cooking for everybody at ESPN Radio at his home, except for me and Amber. We're working.
And he's cooking for everybody else.

Speaker 19 That's how Freddie Fitz does it. Everybody knows it.

Speaker 21 That's not a real person.

Speaker 19 That's why you're a bigger bigger star than Freddie Fitz. And you'll always be a bigger star than Freddie Fitz.
Amin Alhassen is joining us now, and we're always delighted to see him.

Speaker 19 We're going to get to his weekend observations in a second. But before we do so, what can you update us on the Pablo Clippers beef?

Speaker 19 We've left this behind, and it's still a giant story. Pablo Torrey has the number one sports podcast in America right now because it's such a giant story and because he's so far ahead on this story.

Speaker 19 Amin, you helped with the initial unveiling. What have you found interesting about over the weekend, Clippers' reaction, everything happening around what appears to be a giant scandal now?

Speaker 19 Like, because people are realizing, wait a minute, it's no matter what your cynicism you have, millions and millions of dollars for a no-show job is sort of beyond the pale on what we thought we were doing where we were skirting the rules.

Speaker 14 Right. I think, Dan, first of all, the idea that Pablo is kind of just shooting from his hip, which is what many people kind of initially came out.

Speaker 14 Even the Clippers, their first statement said something like,

Speaker 14 are easily provable or provably false or something like that. And then, as Pablo noted, they put out a revised statement that sounded like the first one, except the words provably false was removed.

Speaker 14 That's the lawyers. The lawyers got in there like,

Speaker 14 buddy, you guys cannot. prove that these allegations are false at the very least.

Speaker 14 Mark Cuban getting in a Twitter fight with Pablo and then basically Pablo having a bail on the live stream we were doing because Mark Cuban was like, he's ready to go right now.

Speaker 14 And then Mark Cuban got on and

Speaker 14 talked in circles. Basically, his main point was, hey, rich people don't know how much money they have or how much money they're investing in stuff.
So that was interesting.

Speaker 14 But the other thing, Dan, was all the text messages I got from people.

Speaker 14 around the league in various capacities, team employees, former team employees, league execs, agents, and all of it was something along the lines of, yeah, this happens, but oh, I think they're screwed.

Speaker 14 Because everyone sees it's not just the magnitude of the money, Dan, it's also the amount of stuff in writing that links all these parties together.

Speaker 19 Mike, what are you guys laughing about back there?

Speaker 32 That Mark Cuban took to social media to be like, hey, I talked in circles for an additional two hours.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good at it.

Speaker 19 This honestly was stunning to watch happen. I mean, I don't know if you're informed.

Speaker 19 I feel like you're super, super informed here, and you can allow people to see inside of what the second episode episode of Pablo Torrey finds out was, where Mark Cuban, armed with very few facts, underestimated the amount of information that Pablo had.

Speaker 19 So Pablo's got all of this information that is not only credible, but just fair fact-finding. And Cuban's response is some form again and again of, well, Steve Ballmer's not that dumb.

Speaker 14 Right, but at the same time, almost infantilizing Steve Ballmer. It's like, he was a victim.

Speaker 14 He got taken advantage of and pablo rightly points out like wait which one is it is he mr magoo or is he uh is he like just uh like a guy who it wasn't didn't do his due diligence because he's rich and he's got other people to do that and they didn't do that mark cuban brings up a story about how he got scammed and it's just like none of this really makes sense because at the end of the day Cuban and Ballmer, who, by the way, we need to get to his conversation with Ramona Shelberg because I was like, man, you should not have done that.

Speaker 14 You should not have sat down and answered those questions that prematurely but then here's the thing they keep coming back to well these guys are scammers of course why would they do this other scammers this is what i know about scammers and really most criminal enterprises the goal is to make money So if my goal is to scam people, to make money, yes, I'll pay Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 14 Yes, I'll pay Drake. Yes, I'll pay Robert Downey Jr.
because they're going to go out and spread the gospel and bring me more money.

Speaker 14 Why would I pay $28 million to a guy who's not even the most famous dude in his sport, who's notoriously a recluse, who's not going to do anything for me?

Speaker 19 Four times as much as you're paying any and all of the other celebrities who are bigger celebrities and better spokesmen than he.

Speaker 14 Yes, it's literally the duality of they're more famous than him. And also, oh, they're going to burn a calorie to sell our scam to the world and legitimize it.
This guy's doing none of that.

Speaker 14 And he's not even that famous outside of basketball to begin with. Why are they paying him the most? How does that help the scam? Okay, I get it.
They're scammers. You're right, Mark Cuban.

Speaker 14 You're right, Steve Balmer. These guys are criminals.
They're awful people. They took advantage of people.
You need to tell me how paying $28 million to Kwai Leonard helped them.

Speaker 14 Because I can't see how it helped aspiration one bit.

Speaker 19 I want to get back to the Ballmer interview, but before we head down that path, I want to get Zaz's thoughts for Amin and just reiterate, okay, that what Pablo Torre finds out is doing, the degree of difficulty on it,

Speaker 19 he's got these people pinned with facts.

Speaker 19 They are facts thoroughly reported by the most ethical of journalism,

Speaker 19 and they're pinned in in a way that makes Ballmer a bit panicked, have to go on television before he's ready to talk about things he might not be totally prepared to talk about.

Speaker 19 I just want to point out again, the NBA investigated some of this stuff. What Pablo did is more thorough in its findings than

Speaker 19 an NBA investigation that wasn't able to find things like this.

Speaker 19 So I just want people to understand that Pablo's degree of difficulty on this, he's got to have the facts in his corner in order to be as confident as he is.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I would say, I would clarify, the NBA did their investigation back in 2019-2020. These events happened after that, number one.

Speaker 14 Number two, much of Pablo's findings are based on aspirations, bankruptcy filing, and those documents

Speaker 14 that we looked at at therein. So we had access to stuff that even if the NBA had done their investigation in 2021, they wouldn't have had access to any of these documents.

Speaker 14 There's nothing that would have compelled Aspiration to hand over that stuff as opposed to a bankruptcy filing.

Speaker 19 I'm saying the fishiness around all the Kawhi stuff has led to investigations and it wasn't able to be, to look like there was this much circumstantial evidence until all of the bankruptcy filings and fraud.

Speaker 14 Right, right. But I think the bigger thing is that the Clippers have been investigated multiple times under Steve Ballmer over these things.
That was another thing a lot of people forgot.

Speaker 14 DeAndre Jordan, remember the whole thing with the chair and the emoji he wore and all that stuff when he was almost a Maverick and then he wasn't?

Speaker 14 Yeah, the Clippers did some capsule convention during that as well. They kind of set up a side deal with Lexus to pay DeAndre Jordan.
The NBA fined them $250,000 for that.

Speaker 14 So at this point, with Steve Ballmer, it's not just a case of, hey, man, this looks fishy. It's also, you're a repeat offender.
This ain't your first rodeo.

Speaker 17 Well, except Ballmer kept saying to Ramona Shelburne there, we know the rules, they know the rules.

Speaker 17 Okay, man, they know the rules, except Uncle Dennis keeps asking for things that are against the rules, and you know the rules, but you got tagged for this in the past already with that Lexus deal.

Speaker 17 So who cares that you know the rules and they know the rules? But back to the Cuban thing real quick. Cuban's whole M.O.

Speaker 17 the whole time as to why he's team Bomber was because like Pablo kept stating his reporting in what is believed to be fact through his reporting.

Speaker 17 And Cuban's response every time was just, I don't believe Bomber's dumb enough to fall for this.

Speaker 17 And then, and then like, and but and and Cuban then went over an old email that Aspiration sent him at the time wanting him to be an investor.

Speaker 17 And Cuban specifically says the reason he didn't go along with it was because it was really aggressive and the money raised several red flags.

Speaker 21 Why'd Bomber go along with it then?

Speaker 14 Zaz, dude, it was so crazy to hear Mark Cuban make points that were actively working against his argument, right? When he said that, I'm like, do you realize what you're saying?

Speaker 14 You said Steve Balmer is, oh, he's too smart to fall for that kind of thing or to do that kind of thing. And then you're telling me that these people that you sniffed out within one email,

Speaker 14 Steve Balmer with the full distance with? Come on. And then Steve Balmer with Ramona, I mean, she asked him, hey, how do we know you guys are doing this? Because it's against the rules.

Speaker 14 I'm like, that's not an argument, right?

Speaker 14 Then he went on. This is my favorite part of the interview by far.
He says, Ramona asked him, have you spoken to Kawhi? He says, no. She says, would you like to hear what he has to say about all this?

Speaker 14 And Steve Barber says, no, it's not my business. It's Kwai's business.
They're like, what?

Speaker 14 If you and me, Zaz, were accused of robbing a bank, and I know we didn't do it, or at least I didn't do it, wouldn't I pick up the phone and say, hey, Zaz, isn't this crazy?

Speaker 14 They think we robbed the bank? Why would I be like, oh, no, I can't talk to Zaz. Oh, that might look fishy.
It would only look fishy if I actually did something.

Speaker 14 He could have lied any other. He could have said, not yet.
I haven't talked to him yet. And then literally never talked to him, but just still say not yet.
But he didn't. He made it clear.
Uh-uh.

Speaker 14 That's not me. That's him.
And that's the part where I'm wondering is if that's Steve Bomber's ejection button, which is, oh, we didn't know anything about it.

Speaker 14 This is Kwai and Uncle Dennis all on their own acting illicitly, which it still isn't a strong enough argument, but it might be the argument he tries to run with.

Speaker 17 And when he was asked, you know, why was Aspiration paying Kawhi Leonard to not do anything? He was like, oh, I don't know. They're scammers.

Speaker 17 Don't scammers normally want you to pay them to do nothing?

Speaker 43 Right.

Speaker 24 Not the other way around.

Speaker 19 I mean, let's play this sound for you from Channing Fry. You tell me what your thoughts are here on him reacting with Kendrick Perkins and Richard Jefferson here on the road tripping podcast.

Speaker 40 First of all, why are you snitching?

Speaker 17 No.

Speaker 40 Why are you snitching?

Speaker 40 Who cares? Why are you snitching?

Speaker 19 Who's snitching? Who's snitching? The reporter?

Speaker 39 Reporters.

Speaker 19 The reporter's job is to snitch. Our job is to keep it quiet, right? Like, Ballmer didn't tell.
Kawhi didn't tell. So Pablo's doing what he's supposed to do, and he's doing an absolute great job.

Speaker 8 Shout him out for this investigation.

Speaker 14 Yeah, Channing went to the University of Arizona, not known for its academics. So sometimes some of these things do fly over his head.

Speaker 14 He's a bright guy, but I got to blame his education at that point. No, what do you talk about snitching? Where are we in in life?

Speaker 14 When I was growing up, snitching was if you were doing the dirt, if you're in this thing,

Speaker 14 that's what snitching is, right? So if I'm also doing this tampering, cap circumvention stuff, I can't be the whistleblower of the source. That would be snitching.
But for the rest of us,

Speaker 14 I don't working. I'm not doing this.
It's not my job to make sure that you're doing all right. If the media's job is as a watchdog, it's to make sure these things come to light.

Speaker 19 Well, what's Richard Jefferson doing saying my job is to hide that stuff? Isn't he a media member now?

Speaker 14 Well,

Speaker 14 he's doing the multiple hats thing.

Speaker 14 He's bald, so he has to wear hats all over.

Speaker 22 Players want other players to get paid.

Speaker 3 Sounds like a bunch of snitches talking to me, pocket watching Kawhi, wondering where is he getting all that money from. It's not in your goddamn business where he's getting that money from, Pablo.

Speaker 4 Mind your own business.

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Speaker 46 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 44 Doesn't matter anywhere.

Speaker 25 We could do it in Buffalo or Baltimore, either.

Speaker 40 You said you could do it where?

Speaker 25 Anywhere. Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 44 No, that's crazy.

Speaker 29 That's crazy. That's crazy.

Speaker 28 He said he could do it anywhere.

Speaker 29 That's crazy, murder.

Speaker 44 Murder, tell him.

Speaker 11 Stugats.

Speaker 35 I had no idea Mean had that in his locker.

Speaker 25 That might be his death. That's crazy.

Speaker 15 I'm not kidding.

Speaker 44 That's crazy, killer.

Speaker 40 It's two America's dead. You don't get it?

Speaker 46 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 19 Time now for Amin's weekend observations.

Speaker 21 It is time for

Speaker 18 to share his game notes.

Speaker 17 No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy.

Speaker 14 Weekend Observations is presented by Miller Light.

Speaker 14 Dan,

Speaker 14 my eyebrows are singed.

Speaker 14 My hair is blown back.

Speaker 14 And I smell a bit like burnt bacon.

Speaker 14 Because just like that,

Speaker 14 make no mistake, my Sundays are now cooked.

Speaker 14 Weekend observations will officially be on Mondays from now on. Yeah.
Unless they're not.

Speaker 14 Like next Monday.

Speaker 14 Tinty and Carl, we need to have a conversation.

Speaker 14 The Dolphins did something yesterday that the Giants couldn't do in five years.

Speaker 14 Made Daniel Jones into a competent quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Greg Cody,

Speaker 14 stands strong.

Speaker 14 You double down.

Speaker 14 You don't let these guys talk you off the ledge.

Speaker 14 Don't change that season prediction.

Speaker 19 He's so homerific. Like he can't.

Speaker 14 Here's the problem. Greg,

Speaker 14 Greg, this is what I'll say to you. This is in your support.

Speaker 14 If anything happens from here on out that continues to be bad, you've already lost the crowd. Everyone thinks you're already a homer.

Speaker 14 But if anything good happens, you get to be the guy who said, told you so, told you it was just one game. You don't give up.
Hold strong.

Speaker 14 Baltimore starts its season just like it ended last season.

Speaker 14 Choking.

Speaker 14 Jerry Jones

Speaker 14 needs to check if he still has the receipts for the Micah Parsons deal.

Speaker 14 Maybe he can get store credit. You ever do that, guys? You get something like, ah, I made a mistake.
You go back. And they're like, well, we can't give you your cash back.
Well, your store credit.

Speaker 14 Why do people say choke someone out with their bare hands?

Speaker 14 Would it be any more benign if you did it with gloves on?

Speaker 21 No, okay. No, that's fair.

Speaker 19 It's a good point, guys.

Speaker 15 I'm sorry.

Speaker 19 No, I was just thinking about it. Give us a tech.
We weren't. It's not that the joke wasn't good.
You made me think.

Speaker 19 Yes, we do it with the bare hands because it makes the extra syllables make it sound like more of a bad.

Speaker 1 It's because I might otherwise do it with like a rope or something.

Speaker 17 Or what if like a headlock?

Speaker 19 You can do one of those moves the mafia does where you're in the back seat of the car and you do it with a wire.

Speaker 15 With a a wire or something.

Speaker 27 That's a good move. I always wanted to do that.
Yeah, Michelle.

Speaker 22 When you see it, you're like, that seems like if you ever had to.

Speaker 35 You always wanted to murder somebody?

Speaker 22 No, I'm saying, if you had to attack somebody, you're like, from behind, like at the...

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 you obviously know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 19 I know what you're talking about, but I didn't go to the next place of volunteering that I want to do this.

Speaker 24 Yeah, hypothetically.

Speaker 22 If I was ever going to attack somebody, this is how I probably would have to be.

Speaker 34 We were going to attack somebody to murder them.

Speaker 17 We definitely know what you're talking about. That's why we're confused that you're openly admitting you want to murder them.

Speaker 1 It's weird.

Speaker 20 Who would you theoretically want to murder?

Speaker 19 Yeah, when you've thought about it, who were you doing it?

Speaker 17 The first person it came to mind.

Speaker 30 Yeah, premeditate this, please.

Speaker 2 Not that it would ever happen, just, you know, who might it be?

Speaker 17 Say it into the microphone.

Speaker 30 You have till the end of the segment to take something back, just so you know.

Speaker 10 You know, I'm going to use some judgment here and not answer this question.

Speaker 19 Good idea.

Speaker 20 Chris Cody. It's going to be clear now.

Speaker 7 If anyone gets murdered around you, no one's going to suspect you. Because you didn't say a name.
Chris.

Speaker 14 Yes. Listen to me.
Double down. Take a bait.
Come back with your top five ways you would murder someone.

Speaker 14 That's how you do it. All right, I'm on it.
Because that's how you win. You give in now.
You've lost. You've lost to the terrorists.

Speaker 14 Jaden Daniels. Effortless.

Speaker 14 How many people saw that DeAndre Hopkins touchdown and thought game over?

Speaker 7 Winner of the weekend. Me.

Speaker 14 I am people.

Speaker 14 Guilty.

Speaker 14 Good to see Geno Smith picking up right where he left off

Speaker 14 the last time I paid attention to him.

Speaker 14 Guy's a winner when I watched.

Speaker 18 You,

Speaker 19 for those who do not know, Amino Hanson, I believe, has the single greatest prediction in the history of this show, in the 20-year history of the show.

Speaker 19 He got Geno Smith's stats almost exactly right the season that Geno Smith had, that was a season better than any of us thought he would ever have.

Speaker 28 Almost exactly right.

Speaker 19 Touchdowns, interceptions, all of it.

Speaker 14 Yards.

Speaker 19 Yards, crazy, how close he was before the season.

Speaker 14 Just the history of this show, huh?

Speaker 19 I've rarely heard predictions better than that one.

Speaker 14 There's no better agent for procrastination

Speaker 14 than a random Instagram reel.

Speaker 14 It's not from an account you follow. Nobody sent it to you.

Speaker 14 It just appeared and you started watching.

Speaker 19 Procrastinate.

Speaker 14 Instead of doing your work.

Speaker 19 What did you see?

Speaker 14 I saw this whole thing about cricket.

Speaker 14 This is a documentary. I didn't watch the whole documentary.
It was just a clip from the documentary.

Speaker 14 But like these the British dude in the documentary, like at the time, they were like, Oh, we're gonna make the West Indies team grovel. He used those terms, we're gonna make them grovel.

Speaker 14 And the West Indies team, they didn't like that because it was a white guy telling mostly black and other colored people that they're gonna make they're gonna grovel to the British dude.

Speaker 14 So, they went out and whooped his ass. And I was so locked in, I don't give a shit about cricket, but I was like, wow.
And then I realized, oh shit, I have to finish these weekend observations.

Speaker 14 What am I doing?

Speaker 23 My reels are a lot of boobs.

Speaker 14 out of boy

Speaker 14 Travis Etienne

Speaker 14 can scoot

Speaker 14 do you guys say Travis Etienne or do you guys say Travis Etienne

Speaker 14 no need for the junior we know it's not his dad exactly if your father isn't famous I'm not including the junior similarly if your son isn't famous I'm not including the senior

Speaker 14 Talking to you Marcus Morris

Speaker 14 We call him Marcus Morris senior why is junior coming up? He's like three.

Speaker 19 Ridiculous. I don't know if any of you had the reaction, not to damper this at all, but when I heard Stingley Jr.

Speaker 19 to the medical tent over the weekend, like I had an immediate reflex on I don't like hearing Stingleys to a medical tent because I associate that name only with paralysis,

Speaker 19 even though his son is a great football player.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he is.

Speaker 14 Way to damper the mood. Sorry.

Speaker 14 I knew Sinner was cooked in the U.S. Open final when I saw Drake bet $300,000 on him.

Speaker 14 Aubrey Graham,

Speaker 14 the polar opposite of the Midas touch.

Speaker 27 Man, he's a terrible gambler.

Speaker 40 Does he ever win bets? Like,

Speaker 25 he's terrible.

Speaker 19 Like, why does he have these giant public bets that always lose?

Speaker 14 I'm going to start a new segment on DraftKings where we just bet the opposite of Drake.

Speaker 19 It's just crazy, though. How much money has he lost? I understand he's wildly, wildly wealthy, but he loses giant bets all the time.
And

Speaker 19 he can't be making only the ones that he's showing us.

Speaker 14 Well, the ones he shows us is the ones he loses. I've never seen him post one and then he won afterwards.
So maybe there's something to that. Maybe Pablo Torre can uncover that.

Speaker 14 Pablo Torre

Speaker 14 uncovering an alleged massive salary cap circumvention story,

Speaker 14 only for some people to be disappointed that Pablo Torre didn't uncover the Epstein files. Tells you what kind of run Pablo Torre is on.

Speaker 14 PTFO.

Speaker 14 Debalmer.

Speaker 14 They in the Clippers abided by the rules because that's the right thing to do.

Speaker 14 I'll try that next time I'm pulled over for speeding.

Speaker 14 Officer, I was doing the speed limit. Why? Well, that's the right thing to do.

Speaker 14 Never mind, you got the radar gun that got me doing 75.

Speaker 14 Debalmer

Speaker 14 investing 50 million into aspiration

Speaker 14 who happened to compensate Kawhi Leonard $48 million.

Speaker 14 Coincidence. Allegedly.
To be fair to Steve Ballmer, 50 million to him is literally worth three cents to a regular person.

Speaker 19 That's right.

Speaker 14 Puka Nakua deserves a second song.

Speaker 14 Yeti, get on that.

Speaker 14 My guy, Tenday Tony,

Speaker 14 saying the Giants have the best defensive line in the NFL.

Speaker 14 Pump your brakes.

Speaker 14 But also, I hope you're right.

Speaker 14 If you take Joe Missoula,

Speaker 14 made him wear glasses,

Speaker 14 gave him a little more hair,

Speaker 14 and made him a lot less successful, you get Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 14 This guy, he goes into the press conferences, he always says something weird,

Speaker 14 and then the team goes out there and lays a fart.

Speaker 19 Yeah, it's been a, yeah, it's been really bad.

Speaker 14 Dan, you don't get to be quirky and eclectic if you're not winning. No, that's not a good thing.

Speaker 15 And we agree to that, right?

Speaker 19 And certainly not if you're losing like that.

Speaker 14 Like Joe Missoula hanging on by a threat. We're going to see this year how long the eclectic, quirky, I think of things differently bit goes when the Celtics aren't the best team in the conference.

Speaker 14 Mike McDaniel grew up with Dan Soder. I didn't know that.
You guys know that?

Speaker 14 Did you guys know that? I knew that. That's a yes or no.
Thank you.

Speaker 34 I knew.

Speaker 14 No. You can't check out on me that hard, guys.
Just

Speaker 14 play a little bit.

Speaker 19 You know what? I mean, I'm sorry. I was talking to Chris about Yeti's got a song about the dolphins that I wanted to play at the end of the segment, and so I wasn't listening to what you were saying.

Speaker 15 Please keep it moving.

Speaker 14 There's 17 people in that room.

Speaker 15 Streeter, that's it.

Speaker 14 You weren't listening. Chris wasn't listening.
Everybody else can't give me all of that.

Speaker 12 I'm working on my top five ways I would kill someone.

Speaker 14 I'm complaining. Top killing someone else.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we're in a room where Chris is actively Googling on a work computer how best ways to murder someone.

Speaker 20 I mean, so it's like, am I now

Speaker 19 implicit in this? We didn't participate. Keep it moving, please.
Thanks for not bringing attention to it. Chris Cody, number five.

Speaker 29 Sword fight.

Speaker 19 Oh, that's a good place.

Speaker 15 You have to win.

Speaker 19 Number four, another four.

Speaker 21 Number four.

Speaker 23 Four, slowly poison them over time.

Speaker 6 I like that. Number three.

Speaker 22 That was your way, the choke with the wire in a car from behind.

Speaker 19 Number two.

Speaker 23 Cut their brakes.

Speaker 15 Oh,

Speaker 15 the good one.

Speaker 19 And number one.

Speaker 22 Trick them into entering the lion's pit at the zoo.

Speaker 6 Put some thought into this.

Speaker 19 All right, excellent work.

Speaker 14 Pride of a lion. I like number one.

Speaker 15 Right of a lion.

Speaker 6 Another lion pass this week at Zoo Miami.

Speaker 28 Okay. All right.

Speaker 19 Sad. Way to bring it down.

Speaker 25 I didn't kill it.

Speaker 14 Chris's friend did. Maybe Chris did.

Speaker 2 Lion's Den, yeah.

Speaker 27 Friend. All right.

Speaker 20 Killed the lion.

Speaker 7 Who saw that coming?

Speaker 19 Go ahead, Amin.

Speaker 14 Angel Reese.

Speaker 14 Suspended by the Chicago sky for a half

Speaker 14 for comments detrimental to the team.

Speaker 14 they're 10 and 31.

Speaker 14 Sounds like the team is detrimental to the team.

Speaker 14 Also, suspended for just a half. Either go full game or go home.

Speaker 14 Cowards.

Speaker 22 It's the move whenever it's a good player. You do it for a half.

Speaker 14 Yes, but they're 10 and 31.

Speaker 17 That's right. They didn't want to give away another game.

Speaker 14 Jackson Dart should start.

Speaker 14 Russell Wilson should retire.

Speaker 14 Someone threw threw a green, lifeless thing on the field of an NFL game.

Speaker 14 It's called the Jets.

Speaker 14 Oh, man, that just killed them.

Speaker 19 Yes, that's a good joke. Tore their hearts.

Speaker 19 Where is the sex toy? Do we have video of the sex toy?

Speaker 27 Quality!

Speaker 19 Landing on the field. There it is.

Speaker 19 Yeah, there it is. Confirmed.

Speaker 19 That right there is American football has returned. A referee just throwing a dildo 20 yards.

Speaker 17 I just like that it has to be green. Like, you're not doing it right if it's not green.

Speaker 45 Going forward, the confirming sound, we need to hear the whole thing, because when it starts and it doesn't end, it can be inappropriate.

Speaker 22 I feel bad for that official.

Speaker 27 Like, he has to pick it up. It's embarrassing.

Speaker 19 It's embarrassing. The internet's forever, and now he's just got a dildo in his hand.
He's wandering around.

Speaker 27 Fum him, I'm like, can I get a paper towel?

Speaker 19 He's at the top of his job, and he can't, yeah, he needs something. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 43 Because it goes,

Speaker 15 yes.

Speaker 21 Is there anything he wouldn't grab?

Speaker 22 If he was like, oh, I can't.

Speaker 6 I'm not touching it.

Speaker 19 Close this out of Maine.

Speaker 14 It took not being a jet for Aaron Rodgers to look like Aaron Rodgers. Serbia lost to Finland despite 33 points and 8 rebounds by Jokic.

Speaker 14 I guess you could say Serbia's Eurobasket run

Speaker 14 is finished.

Speaker 14 You lost to Finland.

Speaker 19 Yeah, see, that's a good joke.

Speaker 6 Nice, nice.

Speaker 14 Yeah, that always helps when you have to point out that's a good joke. People laugh harder then.
To get the people

Speaker 14 to the people upset that I'm doing weekend observations.

Speaker 14 I get it.

Speaker 14 We always miss the original because it was better. You ever gone to a bar and found out that your favorite bartender was replaced with a guy named Steve?

Speaker 14 I'm Steve. What can I get you?

Speaker 14 Top five things where the original was better.

Speaker 14 OLI, Jerry Garcia as the original lead singer for the Grateful Dead.

Speaker 14 Number five, Chevy Chase as the original weekend update host.

Speaker 14 Number four,

Speaker 14 Janet Hubert, the original Aunt Viv.

Speaker 14 Number three,

Speaker 14 Lewis Wilson as the original Batman.

Speaker 14 Very, very racist. Movie, that original Batman.
You can watch it on Tubi, I think. Number two, Backrub, the original name for Google.

Speaker 19 Put it on the poll, please. I'm not making that up.
That Lebertard show, did you know that Backrub was the original name for Google?

Speaker 14 And the number one thing

Speaker 14 where the original was better: the dinosaurs, the original dominant species that's wiped out by climate change.

Speaker 14 They're better because they didn't cause the climate change, it just happened to them.

Speaker 14 I guess Arch Manning

Speaker 14 had a red dot on San Jose State.

Speaker 14 Miami beat Bethune Cookman 45-3.

Speaker 14 Georgia Tech beat Gardner Webb 59-12.

Speaker 14 Florida State beat East Texas A ⁇ M 77-3.

Speaker 14 Alabama beat Louisiana Monroe 77-0.

Speaker 14 And Oregon beat Oklahoma State 69-3.

Speaker 14 One of these things is not like the other.

Speaker 14 LeBron James demolished his $37 million mansion so he can build his dream home.

Speaker 14 LeBron James living in a $37 million mansion that isn't his dream home

Speaker 14 is proof that everyone is miserable.

Speaker 14 We're all in our own personal hell, Dano.

Speaker 14 Speaking of hell,

Speaker 14 Art Bryles,

Speaker 14 those are the weakest.

Speaker 19 I ran out of music twice. Thank you, Amin.
Good talking to you.

Speaker 14 I work hard.

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