Hour 1: That's Hard Time's Daddy

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Speaker 10 Go ahead, Dan.

Speaker 22 But thank you, Roy.

Speaker 8 I it.

Speaker 12 I appreciate you allowing me to go.

Speaker 13 Thank you, Dan.

Speaker 12 Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.
Zaslow, you've been wanting to talk about Howard Stern for a week.

Speaker 12 People have been wondering how it is and where it is that a radio icon has been because he gets very long vacations.

Speaker 12 He is part of a dying medium, but behind a paywall at Sirius XM, he has kept an industry alive because of all of his power and reach.

Speaker 12 And he just signed a five-year contract extension today after doing one last bit here where Andy Cohen pretended like something had happened to Howard just because he was sick for a week and delayed his return.

Speaker 12 The people who follow Howard Stern do so with such loyalty that they keep in industry something that's behind a paywall that he doesn't feel like he can even quit because he's holding up a great deal of Sirius XM with his constituency.

Speaker 12 You've been wanting to talk about this for a week.

Speaker 12 He returns today and signs up for five more years where he'll have a huge vacation and spend a lot of time complaining about not wanting to be on the air.

Speaker 24 Well, and it's funny because

Speaker 24 he did his show today. He finally returned after they did a bit where Andy Cohen did, I think what was a pre-recorded bit, as if he took over the show and people were free.

Speaker 24 Variety magazine put out a story and a tweet that Howard, he's gone. Andy Cohen's now.
That was very embarrassing.

Speaker 24 But also like, how embarrassing for some of these publications over the last couple of weeks who are reporting that he's being fired. He just sinked a five-year extension.

Speaker 24 And it was funny because on the show today, he's talking about, even if I wanted to retire, I can't now.

Speaker 25 With all the reports, I have to stay.

Speaker 26 It seems to be a long-running bit where he's being forced to stay. Someone forced his hand to sign this.

Speaker 24 This is every five years he does this.

Speaker 8 I wish I could.

Speaker 19 I can't quit right now. I wish I could.

Speaker 1 That's a great shout by Billy. It's the Charles Barkley thing.

Speaker 26 I mean, an out in your contract, your contract expiring means you don't actually have to.

Speaker 32 This whole thing feels so calculated to me.

Speaker 17 Like, it's a publicity stunt, right?

Speaker 32 I mean, where's Howard?

Speaker 13 Why?

Speaker 33 Howard was supposed to be back on today.

Speaker 12 Where is he?

Speaker 12 And still, I will not dismiss the forever reinventing of yourself so in your 70s you could be this kind of valuable in an artifact media that you helped change with some shock jock stuff that still, even though people make fun of where his politics are now and how he's gotten overrun by the young men in the Rogansphere, still monster relevant at a place that's behind a paywall that's keeping up in the streaming game with everybody else, and now is still trying to replace him with what feels like a radio lineup of Stephen A.

Speaker 12 Smith and Katie Nolan and them trying to keep up in the modern age when behind a paywall is radio is not the most modern of

Speaker 12 ways to make business, but he is an icon who's reinvented himself over four decades. That's not up for dispute by anyone.

Speaker 24 No, of course not.

Speaker 24 It was interesting, though, these last couple of weeks while he was gone and then another week where he delayed his return and just all the talk about him being irrelevant and he doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 24 I mean, look, this is an all-time radio giant who it feels like it's never going away. He's in his 70s.
He's like 73 years old.

Speaker 13 He's older than I am for crying out.

Speaker 12 And he has more time off than anybody because he can, because he is his own industry.

Speaker 12 Like nobody has, almost no one has that power, although Conan O'Brien begins to accrue it now in the shadow umbrella of what Howard built over there when they revolutionized media.

Speaker 37 The Andy Cohen thing was a good bit.

Speaker 10 It was a good idea.

Speaker 12 Well, it fooled a lot of people.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I saw it first.

Speaker 29 I'm like, this seems like acting a little bit.

Speaker 8 Is this a work or is this, is this legit?

Speaker 31 Because it did kind of lean into all the uncertainty surrounding the biggest bit of uncertainty was probably him delaying his return a week because you assumed, well, what's going on here?

Speaker 26 Are they trying to get some kind of exit in place?

Speaker 40 I thought it was a cool idea to stay relevant.

Speaker 20 People are talking about him today.

Speaker 37 Can he continue that discussion? Can he use this established narrative that he's kind of done?

Speaker 22 And look, he went woke and now he's going broke.

Speaker 39 The five-year extension kind of thumbs its nose at that.

Speaker 31 But what kind of voice will Howard Cern have at this stage of his career?

Speaker 26 You cited the manosphere.

Speaker 42 His voice doesn't resonate with a younger audience.

Speaker 27 His audience is aging with him.

Speaker 29 How much influence does that audience now have?

Speaker 12 Well, we now know, though, that the echo chambers, all of them, if you've got a giant loyal audience and contingency and you take it with you from place to place, you have enormous value.

Speaker 12 And so his audience, though older, there's no disputing that.

Speaker 36 It's been overrun.

Speaker 12 The podcast sphere has been overrun by an assortment of young comedians who have altered everything up to and including a presidential election because some of them in the young man sphere

Speaker 12 fed bad information to young people who weren't thinking for themselves. And then Andrew Schultz recused themselves from any of it by backing off.
Howard Stern is an artifact from a different time.

Speaker 12 There is no disputing that. But his value is not up for dispute either, because I'd love to see the numbers on what that five-year extension is.

Speaker 12 They are trying to help him keep up Mad Dog and with Conan O'Brien. And it's hard to keep up behind a paywall as the streaming game changes and everyone's in the podcast industry.
I saw a podcast.

Speaker 12 Mike, I saw, I don't even know what this is.

Speaker 12 I saw Shaquille O'Neal talking to, I think it was Kendrick Lamar, Tom Brady, Dana White on the roof of something because everyone's come to the podcast sphere saying, I'll make daily shows.

Speaker 26 I don't know what that was. You asked, I haven't seen that, but I assume that the number's lower, possibly much lower.

Speaker 10 Otherwise, the number would have been out there.

Speaker 24 But he's not going to keep doing it

Speaker 24 into his late 70s.

Speaker 27 It stands to reason that the number would be lower given how often he actually shows up, which is fewer and further between the deeper he gets.

Speaker 13 He's got the whole summer off. Yeah, but it's kind of 71.

Speaker 44 At 71, if they say, you know what, let's give you 40 million instead of 100 million. You're like, nah.
I can't live off $40 million.

Speaker 42 It was obviously a good enough deal for Howard, who says he wish he could quit but can't right now.

Speaker 3 For him to still take the money, it's got to be worth worth his time.

Speaker 27 He's made a ton of money, but that wasn't the only thing going for an older audience.

Speaker 3 Last night, the VMAs tried to get us back.

Speaker 39 Really? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 37 Dan, I don't know if you broke your 15-year streak of not watching award shows last night.

Speaker 12 Mike, this is the first time hearing that the VMAs were last night.

Speaker 13 It's impossible. It's totally impossible.

Speaker 41 They were advertising it in-game on your NFL slate.

Speaker 33 I don't know.

Speaker 6 They were hiding my bathroom for it for the past night.

Speaker 12 You can't see it.

Speaker 8 It's impossible.

Speaker 47 You're just a liar.

Speaker 26 The VMAs were simulcast on CBS.

Speaker 30 This is the first time in the history of the VMAs that they've done that.

Speaker 26 And it took the 60-minutes time slot.

Speaker 19 So there's two pretty big heads up that.

Speaker 12 Mike, I was watching Nothing But Red Zone yesterday.

Speaker 13 Yes, but this was after that.

Speaker 22 No one believes it. The commercial

Speaker 50 out of control on Red Zone. I didn't know.

Speaker 35 Out of control.

Speaker 13 I picked it up, Brother Blogger.

Speaker 36 I didn't see it.

Speaker 24 No one believes it.

Speaker 3 Every CBS game had multiple advances.

Speaker 13 Why? Why? Why?

Speaker 12 What's different about our experience is that me, Roy, and Zaz are all telling you we didn't know it was last night, and you're just calling us liars, and we're not lying.

Speaker 24 What do I have to gain by telling you I didn't know the VMAs were last night?

Speaker 13 Even grabble,

Speaker 13 grabbed.

Speaker 22 Everybody knows.

Speaker 33 You two are just lying.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 47 You're just lying.

Speaker 9 Anyways, so the VMAs were there, and they were very clearly trying to get us back.

Speaker 42 Us by the MTV generation.

Speaker 19 Even Dan, they were trying to grab you back. LL Cool J was kind of the hosting.

Speaker 22 There was like a run where Jessica Simpson was a presenter

Speaker 33 and Busta Rhymes was performing.

Speaker 8 As a bust.

Speaker 25 And Ricky Martin performed.

Speaker 33 And a tribute to Ozzy.

Speaker 19 The tribute to Ozzy, where they kind of, where Steven Tyler and Joe Perry showed up.

Speaker 9 They try to recreate the magic of Young Bloods for Ozzy tribute to Across the Pond.

Speaker 28 He did a couple of Ozzy numbers.

Speaker 24 I wish I knew it was on.

Speaker 8 So they were,

Speaker 24 you actually knew a ton of the people

Speaker 26 who were featured in this show they were they created new awards just to give more old people awards and in the lead up to uh to this mtv was showing oh the moriah care thing was rough yeah yeah yeah it wasn't as bad as i thought it was gonna be but that didn't mean it wasn't still rough don't let's not let's not walk and sing lol cool jay yeah like she should be standing still when she's whose idea is it to have her walk it's just so she can't be walking anymore whose idea was it to have her walk she can't walk how she's supposed to get around

Speaker 13 she can't walk who can't walk

Speaker 51 She can't walk.

Speaker 22 She can't walk without it being super awkward.

Speaker 8 Well, there are theories.

Speaker 9 But there was even one time where she was.

Speaker 42 The plan was for her to walk across the stage, and she had to be, her hand had to be held.

Speaker 8 It was.

Speaker 25 Oh, she's dainty.

Speaker 19 It was very...

Speaker 9 No, Ariana Grande introduced her.

Speaker 3 She's dainty.

Speaker 48 Mariah's got something else going on.

Speaker 38 But it was actually a pretty cool show.

Speaker 9 And they played tall.

Speaker 39 Hold on. Hold on.

Speaker 10 Go ahead.

Speaker 36 Cameras did not catch that.

Speaker 12 No, please, please, Greg Cody, you're doing a visual here. Greg Cody is taking from the ways that you're describing this.

Speaker 38 That's not the way that I've been describing Mariah.

Speaker 12 Look, he is doing what I believe is the universal symbol. Everyone should see it.

Speaker 26 Guys, that's plenty reckless.

Speaker 37 We don't need to go there and fixate on it. All right.

Speaker 12 I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 22 What I'm talking about is the same thing that's been talked about Mariah Carey for 25 years.

Speaker 8 Glass house over here thrown stones.

Speaker 26 These are not new allegations when it comes to Mariah Carey being able to just walk and

Speaker 38 act a certain way. What?

Speaker 13 Are you guys just learning about this?

Speaker 36 Like a diva.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 24 That's her shtick.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 37 No, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 Either way, it was pretty...

Speaker 1 Why'd you make this awkward deal?

Speaker 13 I didn't say a word.

Speaker 12 You accused her of drinking.

Speaker 13 What?

Speaker 22 Drinking? What are you talking about?

Speaker 12 That's the symbol that you...

Speaker 43 No, that's not a symbol.

Speaker 8 What was it? You were saying she was throwing the money.

Speaker 43 I was going like this over my shoulder. That's not a symbol.

Speaker 50 Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 27 Just because someone can't talk the same way that they used to and can't walk without assistance doesn't mean that they are.

Speaker 13 I didn't do that.

Speaker 51 Roy,

Speaker 12 we need to settle down here and have Mike stop complaining about us lying to him.

Speaker 36 Me, and Zaslow, and Roy.

Speaker 13 How would I lie? Are not

Speaker 12 lying to you. I guess we were watching.

Speaker 12 I don't... Maybe I watch commercials more passively than you do, okay? Because when I'm in the red zone, I'm not watching commercials.

Speaker 44 Yeah, we were yesterday, a whole minute of them.

Speaker 12 I didn't see commercials yesterday, is what I'm telling you, the way that I was watching Red Zone, and I didn't see any commercials for the VMAs.

Speaker 12 Is there anything else here worth talking about instead of the reckless things we're saying about Mariah Carey?

Speaker 19 Yeah, I think it's pretty cool.

Speaker 29 And also, have you ever seen a 60-minutes in-game promo?

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 42 Okay, in place of the 60-minute in-game promos were the VMA promos, you guys are liars.

Speaker 24 All I'm saying is they should have done a little bit of promotion for the VMA zone.

Speaker 28 Just incredible.

Speaker 47 Just sizable liars.

Speaker 13 Here's the news, though.

Speaker 55 No, they have the ticking stopwatch. That's how I noticed this.

Speaker 29 Here's the news.

Speaker 44 The thing that someone's awarded the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award, and you guys are unaware that it's happening is insane to me.

Speaker 10 I mean, we don't believe that. Insane.

Speaker 13 Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire. So

Speaker 29 they gave Bussa Rhymes something called the Rock the Bells legend.

Speaker 30 It was just because they wanted to get old people over there to watch it.

Speaker 27 They gave Ricky Martin the Latin American Legend Award.

Speaker 8 Wow.

Speaker 24 Who is he up against?

Speaker 39 Well, that's the thing about a legendary award.

Speaker 26 You're not up against anybody. They just bring you over here.

Speaker 9 By the way, Ricky Martin, he did a great compilation of his.

Speaker 42 He does look great.

Speaker 37 He did like six songs. People were out of their seats.

Speaker 24 Six songs?

Speaker 8 Yeah, like a medley one.

Speaker 22 Medley.

Speaker 39 Yeah, Busset did too.

Speaker 56 It was awesome. It was a great show.

Speaker 41 And for me, the news is, is this setting up something to come?

Speaker 27 Is MTV finally getting away from trying to be for the kids, realizing it's never going to be that?

Speaker 37 And just trying to get the people that are now in their 40s and above to rekindle some of that magic.

Speaker 24 You know what they should do? You know what would really help? Doing a little promotion so I knew it was on.

Speaker 44 So Power 96 did, by the way.

Speaker 44 Now it's just throwbacks.

Speaker 44 Eevee's still there.

Speaker 22 You've lived long enough in this market to see Power 96 just punt on being contemporary and just said, in our glory days, we had a core audience, just like Howard.

Speaker 40 We're just going to cater to that core audience.

Speaker 26 And I'm thinking, maybe, just maybe, MTV has made this decision because it was aggressive and overt how they were trying to get people north of 40 to watch this.

Speaker 39 And I don't know if that was just because the CBS simulcast, although the CBS simulcast in itself was an admission, we're done trying to get teenagers, we're trying to get their parents.

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Speaker 12 Roy, I've got a top five football things that I'm not even going to be able to get to because we've got too many other football things to talk about.

Speaker 12 So number five, and I've got an OLI to this list as well because there's just no time to talk about all of the football things from yesterday. So OLI, Debo Samuel looks weird in Washington.

Speaker 12 Again, these are just things I'm not going to have time for. This is also OLI.
It's weird and I wasn't expecting it. I don't understand it.
It's confusing to me.

Speaker 12 Young Wei Ku, I'm not used to him missing those.

Speaker 13 Don't have time.

Speaker 12 for anything involved with that Saints game.

Speaker 44 Was it a bad game?

Speaker 12 It's competitive. Don't have time time for anything in that Jags Panthers game.
All still OLI.

Speaker 43 These are all OLI. A lot of OLI.

Speaker 44 Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 16 Also, OLI.

Speaker 12 The 49ers are going to really miss George Kittle, but they've got the easiest schedule in the league.

Speaker 12 Don't have time for any of that. Seattle should have won that game.
Don't have time for that either. Don't have time for Raiders Patriots.

Speaker 12 None of it, even though Geno Smith probably we should talk about that. I think they're going to be

Speaker 13 good. Good.
offense. But we don't have time.

Speaker 12 Don't have time to talk about any of that.

Speaker 10 He's not hurt for long.

Speaker 12 Number five thing I don't have time to talk about. Pennix's first down run at the goal line.

Speaker 12 That's number five. Number four, Pennix's insane physicality of stretching out like that on fourth down to actually get to the goal line.

Speaker 24 The broadcasters were stunned with the running.

Speaker 12 Defied physics.

Speaker 44 People forget three yards is nine feet.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 44 You can't just lay down on one three-yard line and get to the goal line.

Speaker 30 Like, it's nine feet.

Speaker 44 That's like dunking a basketball standing up, plus, minus a foot.

Speaker 12 Number three thing I cannot get to, there is no time, is Jake Landman just having what has to be the greatest feeling a defender can have. There's a running back in the open field.

Speaker 36 I'm not going to try and tackle him.

Speaker 12 I'm simply going to perfectly punch the football. I'm not playing football.

Speaker 12 I'm simply punching someone who's coming out after me and I'm winning the game in my first game as a big acquisition for a team that still has a quarterback that's Ram Tough.

Speaker 44 Great series. I think his name's Nate, but we got it.

Speaker 12 It's Landman.

Speaker 13 Landman. Wow.
Landman.

Speaker 12 Just no time for it, though. We don't have time for that.

Speaker 36 Billy Bump Thornton. Also, don't.

Speaker 39 Landman. Yeah.
It's a pop culture reference.

Speaker 13 Great.

Speaker 44 It was on the VMAs last night. You missed it, Dan.
Yeah.

Speaker 23 We all were there.

Speaker 12 Number two, I don't have time to talk about why is

Speaker 12 Puka Nakua bleeding from the eye? Is it the eye? Is it above the eye? Why is there blood all over his face?

Speaker 12 And number one, thing I do not have time to talk about is

Speaker 12 if it had been in the Super Bowl to end a game or just in a game that people were watching and not at the end of a loss where the Lions were embarrassed against the Packers, would we be arguing that Tesla-uh-uh

Speaker 12 made the greatest catch any of us had ever seen in a professional football game? I don't know how to pronounce that person's name. He's got two A's at the end of it.

Speaker 12 I thought that the catch that he made in that game seemed as impossible to me as the one that Odell Beckham made a bunch of, you know, years ago, a one-handed catch of straight absurdity.

Speaker 12 I don't know how he got inbounds.

Speaker 13 And then the DeAndre Hopkins one blew it out of the water.

Speaker 32 Right. And the Keynes kid in the open.

Speaker 22 CJ Danny.

Speaker 32 Yeah, even better. Yeah.

Speaker 12 No time to talk about any of those things because I want to talk about four-time MVP Aaron Rodgers going into New York and how good that had to feel.

Speaker 12 It had to feel every bit as good as Garrett Wilson felt bad at the end of the game.

Speaker 12 Who felt best yesterday? Is it Josh Allen at the end of that game? Knowing that his team, that, yeah, he pulled it out, but we're all watching that and saying, oh, Baltimore's better than them.

Speaker 12 Baltimore just ran up and down the field. And if Baltimore didn't have one of the weirdest Achilles heels you've ever seen, which is that a good defense somehow at the end of the game,

Speaker 12 somehow gets trampled again and again to introduce us to Tua, you know, so many fourth quarters ago when he did it to Baltimore and to do it to Baltimore more than any team in the league.

Speaker 24 Aaron Rodgers, number one, feels the best about what took place yesterday. And maybe a close second, I think, is Daniel Jones.

Speaker 24 Daniel Jones is, you know, however many years in New York, everyone's telling him he sucks.

Speaker 24 And the first time he went to a different team, now look, it was the Dolphins it was against, but the very first time that he's played on a different team, he had the best game of his career.

Speaker 25 So I think Aaron Rodgers is one, but I think Daniel Jones is close number two.

Speaker 39 It's got to be Josh Allen.

Speaker 8 That was an impossible comeback.

Speaker 22 And I know that this is a thing with the Ravens.

Speaker 5 It's been a thing for several years.

Speaker 3 Since 2021, they have lost eight games, having a 90% and overwhelm.

Speaker 47 This is a thing.

Speaker 38 And they're kind of built to salt the game away.

Speaker 30 They have the greatest running threat ever at the position that touches the ball ever.

Speaker 12 He was averaging 10 yards a carry last night.

Speaker 9 I'm not sure how this even happens.

Speaker 3 And you have to look at the other side of the field and understand, yeah, they did things to blow that game.

Speaker 29 Josh Allen stole one.

Speaker 34 He had no business winning that.

Speaker 9 And yeah, the Ravens are more talented than Buffalo, but they were more talented than Buffalo last year.

Speaker 37 I think lost in the Lamar Jackson discussion because he's so impressive.

Speaker 26 He's so great running. He does so many amazing things, but that is as loaded as there is

Speaker 28 on offense in the league.

Speaker 38 They have really helped this guy out.

Speaker 27 There is no excuse for Lamar to not get this done.

Speaker 38 There is no excuse for Lamar to blow games like that.

Speaker 26 The other guy is finding ways to win it.

Speaker 3 Lamar is seemingly finding ways to blow it.

Speaker 24 The thing that I would push back about Josh Allen feeling the best yesterday was what we saw from Josh Allen there yesterday. He was just being Josh Allen.

Speaker 24 Like Aaron Rodgers was able to say, see, my demise, you spoke a little bit too early. I'm still really good.
Daniel Jones, like, you think I suck? Nah, now I'm on a competent team.

Speaker 24 Like Josh Allen was being Josh Allen yesterday.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, I could argue, wasn't even the happiest guy on his roster. Jalen Ramsey.
That had to feel pretty good for him yesterday.

Speaker 12 Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Who felt better at the end of yesterday's game, Aaron Rodgers or Jalen Ramsey?

Speaker 12 It's a great question, Chris, because excellent, sure, four-time MVP, but in that sport, when you've gone from one team to another with the Dolphins,

Speaker 12 you as a Dolphin, Jalen Ramsey, you all your life have known how to win.

Speaker 12 You're really excellent at what you do indisputably. You came and offered Miami your services.

Speaker 12 and had problems with just about everyone in the locker room because you know how to win and not a whole lot of people around you in that locker room outside of Tyreek Hill also know.

Speaker 12 Jonu Smith and him yesterday in Pittsburgh winning that way and Jalen Ramsey getting the moment late in his career that is

Speaker 12 I'm still more physical too

Speaker 12 and I just robbed Garrett Wilson's soul in his own stadium to end this game and announced to all of Pittsburgh, hey, a winner came to town. You guys win, I win, our MVP quarterback wins.

Speaker 12 How about we tell a different story than the one tomlin's been telling on defense 10 wins a season but can't do anything in the playoffs because at the end he's getting the most he can out of his team but he doesn't have historic winners on his team they haven't had one of those since rocklessberger and so jalen ramsey comes to town and that's how he introduces himself

Speaker 1 It's all the baggage with the Dolphins and in that game, him and Garrett Wilson almost had got into a fight. So like that was just what a feeling.

Speaker 3 I know we're in love with the multiple-time MVP and the narrative and want to give all the credit to Aaron Rodgers too.

Speaker 28 But this is the first time in Aaron Rodgers' recent career where he's coming into a set program. We'll tell you who the offensive coordinator is.

Speaker 26 You're not going to handpick some guy that you're going to keep relevant, all right?

Speaker 40 Who's going to tell us, hey, let's just keep Tim Boyle around.

Speaker 27 You're not going to be raising up the Joe Philbins of the world.

Speaker 55 You're going to conform to...

Speaker 26 our way of doing things.

Speaker 38 This is the way it goes.

Speaker 41 And I actually do think Aaron Rodgers is being aided there.

Speaker 41 He is being boosted by the set culture of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 9 Because if he has a say in who that offensive coordinator is, he has proven time and time again, it'll be some mid dude.

Speaker 26 Now, I know people have their opinions about Arthur Smith, but Arthur Smith's a lot better than the Joe Schmoz that he's been putting at OCB4.

Speaker 12 It has been something to watch

Speaker 12 what

Speaker 12 happened in one game.

Speaker 12 I think all of us in all the over-analysis around football and where it is the coach is responsible for someone's success and where it is the quarterback is responsible for a coach's success.

Speaker 12 We've seen what happened with Brady and Belichick, and Belichick is now winning his first game and saying more than he ever said as Patriots coach when he's saying, Yeah, the reason that the Patriots aren't invited on our campus is because I'm not invited at their facility.

Speaker 12 Most revealing quote this man has ever had publicly because he's hurt at the end of his career, because it's got a sting to have your quarterback get all of the credit for the success that you contributed to.

Speaker 12 For Aaron Rodgers to eat the humbling of

Speaker 12 your ego is great four-time MVP, and I know you think you can improve a historically dysfunctional organization where the young kids are running things with Woody Johnson. And for it to swallow you,

Speaker 12 you needed Aaron Rodgers to suffer that humbling in order for him to be receptive to all of the things where Pittsburgh can help him as much as he helps Pittsburgh to get a new ending ending to the rest of his career because he's on a prove-it deal.

Speaker 12 And what you just saw is offense Pittsburgh hasn't had in a decade.

Speaker 12 Like, and they've had skilled guys who can run up and down the field, but down the field is not something I have seen from Pittsburgh in 10 years.

Speaker 12 And it's because they haven't had this quarterback since Ropplsburg.

Speaker 24 And we think the Jets are a good defense.

Speaker 12 I think everyone knows the Jets are a good defense.

Speaker 32 And for all of this, that's why my vote goes to Aaron Rodgers as well for best feeling of of the weekend. 41 years old, everybody's writing him off.

Speaker 32 In one game, he goes from not just being, you know, a big-name stopgap quarterback for a year, he goes for being a guy that Steelers fans right now think they can win with this guy.

Speaker 32 He can change this team. He can be around for a couple of years.
He can beat Brady 2.0.

Speaker 22 That's what that opener meant.

Speaker 12 I don't think, it's not just that, though, Greg. I don't think people understand what just happened in Pittsburgh because it's not just that.

Speaker 12 They're tired of Mike Tomlin because they think where their standard is that 10-7

Speaker 12 is mediocre because it can't win a playoff game. What they just injected into that city, a football city, is inordinate hope because can the offense be that on the road?

Speaker 12 They still needed a 60-yard field goal in that game. They could have easily lost that game.

Speaker 26 That's why I wanted to jump in here because who knows what these two teams are going to be at the end of the season.

Speaker 28 And you say their offense hasn't looked like that in 10 years?

Speaker 37 Well, their defense hasn't looked like that in 10 years.

Speaker 26 That was a, no one was expecting Justin Fields and the New York Jets to move the ball like that on Pittsburgh.

Speaker 42 So I'm not, you're saying with certainty, we think the Jets' defense will be, I'm not quite sure anymore.

Speaker 19 I thought it was a weird ass game.

Speaker 19 And the defense is going to have to be a hell of a lot better for Pittsburgh for this to actually be a real conversation because I'm not sure they fixed all that much.

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Speaker 16 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 13 Greg, how's your birthday going?

Speaker 28 So I invented it.

Speaker 53 It's going fantastic. My wife and I are staying home tonight.
We're watching the debate on TV. We're going to do something special for David.

Speaker 13 David,

Speaker 53 it's a nice day for me so far.

Speaker 16 Stugats.

Speaker 60 That sounds like not a super nice night.

Speaker 3 The debate. Old people love that shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's exactly right. Yeah.

Speaker 51 That's exactly right.

Speaker 7 Old people do love that shit.

Speaker 13 And I'm old now.

Speaker 35 I can't deny it anymore.

Speaker 16 Now, this is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 44 It also seems impossible for Aaron Rodgers to keep up that pace and do that every week. So, like, this is a good story for Aaron Rodgers, but I don't think he's going to be able to do that every week.

Speaker 44 Can I suggest, can I make a nomination for a person who I think felt the best yesterday? DeAndre Hopkins. One-handed touchdown catch.
It was one of two catches. I don't think he cares that they lost.

Speaker 44 He had that one-handed catch. Everyone wrote him off last year.
They said, oh, wow, he's going to come to Kansas City.

Speaker 44 He's going to win a Super Bowl at the Chiefs. He was kind of non-factor with the Chiefs.
Then he has that one-handed catch for the touchdown yesterday.

Speaker 44 Oh, I think he had the best day out of everyone yesterday.

Speaker 44 He didn't care that he lost. If you think DeAndre Hopkins cares whether he won or lost, he doesn't care the outcome of that game.
Two catches.

Speaker 44 Yeah, he had two catches, but you see the one-handed touchdown catch. I think yesterday DeAndre Hopkins considers a win for himself.

Speaker 1 I would think he went to Baltimore only to win.

Speaker 12 Billy, you're not wrong when you simply say of Aaron Rodgers, because it's the proper analysis.

Speaker 12 It's one game.

Speaker 12 I'm merely saying that that's the best way for a one game to go for him to create the maximum amount of hope about the things that I'm talking about that Pittsburgh can feel like we're going to be able to win shootouts and not have TJ Watt need to take the ball from the other quarterback in order to win a game.

Speaker 12 It couldn't have gone more hopefully than it did.

Speaker 24 Easy schedule for them to start too. They have Seattle and New England the next couple of weeks.
You're probably 3-0 if you're Pittsburgh.

Speaker 32 And that game was all Aaron Rodgers. He had no ground support.
I think they ran 25 times for 60 yards or something like that. He doesn't have a Derrick Henry on that team.
That's all him.

Speaker 44 Gets a little dicey, though, after the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's take a look at this thing.

Speaker 44 Hosting the Vikings.

Speaker 10 I can't believe it.

Speaker 8 That's going to be tough.

Speaker 44 And then you host the Browns.

Speaker 44 You watch two home games, and then you travel to Cincinnati.

Speaker 44 That one's anyone's guess.

Speaker 50 17-0.

Speaker 3 I'm listening.

Speaker 44 Then you host the Packers.

Speaker 44 They looked good yesterday.

Speaker 13 2-3.

Speaker 44 Well, then Juggernauts coming to town. The Colts.

Speaker 13 5-4.

Speaker 44 You don't know what that one's going to play out.

Speaker 44 Travel across the country to the Chargers.

Speaker 50 Now they're a game under.

Speaker 44 Now Bengals again.

Speaker 55 Game under.

Speaker 55 At Chicago.

Speaker 44 We haven't seen Chicago yet.

Speaker 44 The Compler.

Speaker 7 Then the Bills.

Speaker 13 Then the Ravens.

Speaker 12 I'm sorry.

Speaker 39 All right. Point taken.

Speaker 12 Point taken. I'm talking football too seriously.
You're doing

Speaker 12 scheduled talks.

Speaker 1 Ooh, is it snack time?

Speaker 13 It is.

Speaker 12 I'm going to interrupt what he's saying.

Speaker 44 Last game is the Ravens.

Speaker 12 All right, I heard you, okay, but I'm sorry I have to do this to you.

Speaker 16 Who's that for?

Speaker 13 Minor penalty, two minutes for verbal diarrhea.

Speaker 50 Chris, get out of here, Chris.

Speaker 44 Hit the road, Jack.

Speaker 12 That's for you, Billy Gill. Two minutes.
Yeah, I'm sorry to do that to you. I'm having the dill peanuts.
I really like these peanuts. They've been around the offices here for a couple of days.

Speaker 12 The flavored ones, I like the hot ones, but look, my mouth's watering. These are good peanuts.

Speaker 1 The Hampton Farms peanuts are the best. We are going to have our weekly, let's see who the nuttiest fan is in college football.
It's brought to you by Hampton Farms, the official nut of the tailgate.

Speaker 1 Vote for your favorite nutty fan at Lebatard Show on Instagram. Keep an eye out for Lucy at West Virginia this week if you think you are your team's nuttiest fan.

Speaker 1 All right, Dan, here's what we got this week. We had a fan with a lemur

Speaker 1 at the UM game. There was a fan.
I don't know if they snuck this in. I don't know if you're allowed to bring this in.
We had a UM fan.

Speaker 12 You can't be allowed to bring that in.

Speaker 22 What are you talking about?

Speaker 12 No, that can't be the emotional situation.

Speaker 24 I'll bet it's not on the banned list.

Speaker 24 You think it says lemur?

Speaker 1 So we have a UM fan with a lemur

Speaker 1 and going against an Alabama fan. Now, this was before their last game against UL Monroe.
And, you know, an Alabama fan asked what she will do if she wins the lottery.

Speaker 61 I'll tell you exactly what I'd do with the first 70 million.

Speaker 61 I'd pay off Kalen DeBoer and get him the heck out of the University of Alabama and then I'd take whatever else it took to get rid of the AD.

Speaker 13 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's not what I would do.
Like I'm out on the Dolphins right now. If I win the lottery I'm not putting any of it towards getting rid of Mike McCain.

Speaker 24 She has different likes than you.

Speaker 1 That's true. So we have these two fans.
We have, what do you think's nuttier, Dan? Bringing a lemur into a stadium or spending your lottery winnings getting a coach out of town?

Speaker 12 I think that feels like animal cruelty. I'm sorry because I was chewing into the microphone.
I don't think people like that. I think that's an unpleasant thing.

Speaker 12 A SMR.

Speaker 10 ASMR. Whatever.

Speaker 10 And I heard that crunch, by the way.

Speaker 39 Well, I just, I.

Speaker 13 SMR.

Speaker 12 I tried not to eat into the microphone because it's pretty disgusting to eat into the microphone, but

Speaker 36 these are delicious.

Speaker 4 Oh, delightful Hampton Farms peanuts.

Speaker 12 And they also trigger for me a childhood thing because this was the peanut was the greatest of the delicacies in my childhood. It's sporting events, fun.

Speaker 12 It's baseball games with my father. It's being able to throw things on the floor and not have to pick them up.

Speaker 24 That's the best part. I used to love going to Roadhouse.
Grow, wait, I get to have the peanuts and just throw it on the floor.

Speaker 12 But you can't bring a lemur into your stadium. That seems bad for the lemur.
I don't care what we're doing with.

Speaker 1 The lemur seemed to be enjoying itself. No.

Speaker 36 No.

Speaker 12 You think an animal in a bag is going to be happy to be with 80,000 roaring people?

Speaker 40 Did you see that pass that Carson Beck had to C.J.

Speaker 28 Daniels?

Speaker 1 A lemur seems intrigued.

Speaker 12 It wasn't 80,000, was it, Mike? You're very happy with Carson Beck's accuracy. You should be.

Speaker 1 That lemur doesn't seem freaked out at all.

Speaker 32 Lemur sounds like a car. I drive a 1978 Ford

Speaker 13 all the time.

Speaker 37 I am very excited about Carson Beck and the Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker 39 They look good.

Speaker 50 Hey, did you see that Oregon score? What the hell's happening with Oklahoma State?

Speaker 8 I told you this last year.

Speaker 12 They're the worst team I saw anywhere in power football last year.

Speaker 30 There were really strong indications.

Speaker 12 You got to fire Mike Gundy.

Speaker 26 There were really strong indications that he was going to be gone. In fact, there were people that I trust saying, like, he's pretty gone.

Speaker 48 And then he had a Hail Mary to save his job at the last second. Woo!

Speaker 1 Do you ever hear anything about football and you're like, I don't trust you?

Speaker 27 Because you said people you trust.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like everyone, you get some like a good nugget and you're like, damn it, I don't trust this person.

Speaker 13 Yeah, no, you can be skeptical.

Speaker 14 Who's your worst source?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I never thought of it that way.

Speaker 12 I didn't want to talk very much college football, but I did. I'm telling you that I was watching last year

Speaker 12 Oklahoma State and I'm like, oh my God, they've left Mike Gundy behind.

Speaker 13 They were supposed to be good last night.

Speaker 12 His whole team is in tatters. And then you see that against Oregon, where they're a 30-point dog, and they're out of the game in the first half.
They've got nothing.

Speaker 14 That's as bad as you'll see like a P-14 look on the road.

Speaker 24 And going into the game, Mike Gundy's complaining about, oh, Oregon, they have so much NIL money.

Speaker 3 Did you loser talk?

Speaker 37 Did you see what happened with Duke over the weekend? Quote.

Speaker 12 They lost at home to Illinois by 30 points. Illinois' good, right? Yeah.

Speaker 37 Well, quote from Annie Diaz. Illinois does this this to everyone.

Speaker 31 I mean, we can slow down a little bit. Hey, Duke.

Speaker 31 Duke spent $4 million on their quarterback to establish a crazy quarterback market this offseason.

Speaker 13 All for that quarterback.

Speaker 12 Take the peanuts away from him.

Speaker 36 I mean, like, what are we like?

Speaker 29 You know, all for that quarterback to now be an underdog at his former school against Tulane.

Speaker 28 Tulane is favored against the quarterback that left there and established a crazy market at $4 million.

Speaker 13 You guys didn't see that Orioles game?

Speaker 12 Jackson Holiday.

Speaker 12 Nobody cares.

Speaker 37 Nobody cares about

Speaker 1 Matt Holiday's kid, right?

Speaker 36 I mean, the Dodgers are, the Pounders are game back.

Speaker 12 The Dodgers don't look like...

Speaker 29 You see that Clemson game?

Speaker 10 That was great nuts.

Speaker 29 That was a little scary for Clemson, huh?

Speaker 12 Troy.

Speaker 19 Just a guy named Troy.

Speaker 12 30-point dog.

Speaker 26 Guy named Troy was up 16-0 at Clemson.

Speaker 9 The Ford Troy.

Speaker 1 That's a car, too. It does sound like a car.

Speaker 12 The Ford Lemur. What sounds more like a car? The Ford, was it the Ford Lemur?

Speaker 32 The Ford Lemur and the Chevrolet Tagliabu.

Speaker 13 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 12 All right. This is what I want to do.

Speaker 12 I want to have a contest here for Greg Cody in which we pair off what he believes to be the best car names that he could produce based on what it is that he believes sounds like a car name.

Speaker 12 So was it the Ford Lemur? Is that?

Speaker 32 Yeah, Ford Lemur.

Speaker 12 The Chevrolet Tagliabu.

Speaker 17 Actually, I think that's a Ford too.

Speaker 32 Let's make it a Ford Lemur versus a Ford Tagliabu.

Speaker 7 All right, that's good.

Speaker 12 And what was the third one? There was a third one here. You're not going to remember because you're too busy.

Speaker 12 The Ford Troy.

Speaker 44 No, that's not a Ford. That's not a Ford Troy.

Speaker 13 What is a Ford?

Speaker 32 What is a Troy? Chevrolet Troy, man.

Speaker 27 Maybe a Plymouth? I think it sounds like a Dodge.

Speaker 13 Plymouth Troy. Yeah, probably a bit.
Dodge Troy.

Speaker 43 No, I think it's a Plymouth Troy.

Speaker 32 No?

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 32 Do they make Plymouths anymore?

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 44 I can see a Plymouth Sarkeesian.

Speaker 7 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 27 What about a Dodge Crystal Ball?

Speaker 44 I would drive that.

Speaker 51 Would you?

Speaker 17 A Dodge Crystal Ball.

Speaker 32 Sounds like a pickup, like an F-150 type thing. You know?

Speaker 13 Dodge Crystal Ball. I like that.

Speaker 13 Nice.

Speaker 8 GMC.

Speaker 12 One more college football thing before I move to other things. I believe, Mike never said this publicly, but I believe that last week he was going to put the town on alert.

Speaker 12 University of South Florida over Florida. Billy Napier is in big trouble there, losing that game, losing it that way, and losing it again with another spitting incident, another spitting incident.

Speaker 12 Like, what the hell? The last 10 days, Inner Miami, and finally, there's been some sort of punitive measure

Speaker 12 from spit that dried up 10 days ago.

Speaker 28 You can't play in the Leagues Cup anymore, Luis.

Speaker 13 Yeah, big deal.

Speaker 13 Big deal.

Speaker 37 Now, they do this across the world where you're randomly suspended for competitions that are exclusive to that competition.

Speaker 27 He's got a Champions League ban, but he can just show up with his regular day job on the weekend.

Speaker 30 But those are you know competitions that are taken seriously.

Speaker 47 Whereas this is a Leagues Cup, and

Speaker 50 it's very strange.

Speaker 28 Yes, but now they're suspended next year.

Speaker 31 Going forward, Luis Juarez, the next six Leagues Cup games out.

Speaker 17 He can't even get it. I'm not going to be in this country next year.

Speaker 22 Wait a minute.

Speaker 13 Hold on a second. Yeah.
I don't know what that meant.

Speaker 28 Hold on a second.

Speaker 13 Wait a minute.

Speaker 44 So he could be suspended for like four years worth of tournament games.

Speaker 8 That's right.

Speaker 27 That's insane.

Speaker 37 But be readily available for the next time they take the field.

Speaker 16 Okay, this is definitely a really ridiculous.

Speaker 12 I was talking about the spinning incident in the Florida game.

Speaker 22 I need some water.

Speaker 53 My mouth dry.

Speaker 44 Not because of the nuts. The nuts water your mouth.

Speaker 9 Good news. Marked improvement for Florida, though.

Speaker 48 They only surrendered seven tackles for loss.

Speaker 27 That is a huge upgrade over the 11 they surrendered to Long Island last week.

Speaker 24 Dan, you see, these next three weeks for the Gators at LSU.

Speaker 3 Okay, that's a win. At Miami.

Speaker 28 That's a loss.

Speaker 24 Hosting Texas. That's a loss.

Speaker 30 I don't got them beating LSU. I was like, wow.

Speaker 37 It's a win for LSU. That's a win for you.

Speaker 24 That's hard times, Daddy.

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Speaker 57 Hey, listeners, it's Mike.

Speaker 45 Hey, Billy Gill.

Speaker 58 Hey.

Speaker 57 Hey, Billy, as a proud member of your inner circle, remember when we were hanging out last weekend?

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Speaker 45 The fishtail palms, the great memories we made, kids playing in the pool, and in our hands, a nice ice-cold can of Miller Light.

Speaker 38 It was so hot out.

Speaker 58 I know, but it was so cold in my hand.

Speaker 14 We took that first sip. It was crisp.
It was refreshing.

Speaker 45 Oh, man, there is nothing like cracking open a Miller Light with your crew and your inner circle bones.

Speaker 57 Hell yeah, we fist-bumped.

Speaker 39 Whether it's, we actually really did. Whether it's that touchdown.

Speaker 49 It didn't make a sound, but it just thought- BAM!

Speaker 22 Boom!

Speaker 55 Whether it's that touchdown you didn't see coming or just arguing about fantasy lineups, you and I did plenty of that.

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