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Welcome to the Big Sue,

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Why are you listening to this show?

It's a podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebetard podcast.

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I am interested in talking to the group about what were the big takeaways from the weekend because in professional football, just a terrific week one.

Crazy, the end of the one o'clock hour games.

And

the last game would be the best of the games is football introducing itself, reintroducing itself to us in the most seismic way possible.

It's a very well-run league.

The teams are very competitive with each other.

The games matter and Sundays are holidays around here.

And college football even got engulfed this weekend because it didn't have anything as interesting as what it is that was happening yesterday.

So many interesting things that I'm putting low on the list.

Woo, the Packers bullied the Lions there and Micah Parsons is a defensive player anybody would want to have and good God,

the Packers dragged the field with, listen to this stat.

There have been three quarterbacks ever who have won 13 games in a season with two different teams.

It's Brady, it's Manning, and it's Goff.

It's Goff.

And Detroit, for all its offense, was ransacked by a Packers defense that I thought was plenty good last year and now has Micah Parsons.

Tonight will be interesting because you got Bears Vikings tonight.

And if the Bears' offense is good, Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, then the chatter is going to ratchet up a bit about Detroit the longest.

But the Packers bullying the Lions to me is still low on the list of like biggest things in the league to talk about today.

And I'm including the Chiefs from three days ago in here.

Oh, they stink.

The Steelers winning a game that they haven't been capable of in a couple of years, getting that performance from their quarterback, and that quarterback being Aaron Rodgers at his former team.

That was really interesting to see because Aaron Rodgers was really good and so was Justin Fields.

We all assumed that game was going to be ugly.

I get out of the stadium alive.

It was the lowest total of the weekend, right?

37 and a half.

37.

No one expected offense from that game and then all of a sudden you get offense and both of those teams, you know their defenses are good.

So if you're getting good offense, it's not because the defenses are suddenly bad.

And much like college football gets drowned out, not a lot of Jon Matier conversation on this show because he looks like the real deal over at Oklahoma.

But I think Friday's game was really interesting, really good.

And while the Chiefs are expected to fix that offense without Rashid Rice being suspended early on in the season and a shoulder dislocation for Xavier Worthy, there's talk he may need surgery.

He's going to be out for an extended period of time.

Those are guys that take the...

the deep shots downfield.

Are we sure the Chiefs are fixing this offense?

I thought Justin Herbert also looked outstanding.

The Chargers looked formidable.

Before the fourth quarter yesterday, the Harbaughs looked like they had the two best teams in the sport.

In terms of just everything that you were watching and what they did to the Chiefs, how they did it to the Chiefs, we can assemble the argument, could we not?

That right up until the end of that game yesterday, and now the thing falls a little bit on Harbaugh, even though Derrick Henry fumbled.

What the Ravens were, all of us saw this, correct?

Going on the road, we're watching football.

We're watching it from Eagles.

Cowboys, if you're saying who was the best team in the sport, until four minutes in last night's game, all of us are saying the Ravens, correct?

Who looks like the best team in the sport?

Okay, maybe Packers,

maybe Colts, fair enough.

But

the seismic nature of football returning, ending with that game played that way, that the photo that you have at the end of your Football in America night is Josh Allen being carried off by his teammates because we're all watching.

Hey, the MVP doesn't have enough.

The Ravens are better, but they've got the MVP.

And so now we're watching a unicorn and centaur run around in the backfield for the Bills, and the Ravens are better.

And we know the Ravens are better.

And you can't expect Josh Allen to always do that at the end of games.

It's not a reasonable request.

Well, sort of.

Not in the Super Bowl, though.

It's not a reasonable request.

Don't say sort of.

They've never won anything.

They haven't even gotten to a Super Bowl.

Like, look, Greg.

I mean, the Ravens and the Bills suffer from the same malady, which is they're both great teams.

They both have great quarterbacks.

How about you win something?

We'll get to football in a second.

Roy, why are you laughing?

Your head going into hand.

I'm going to tell you why.

Because, because I've done this show for a long time.

Greg Cody, look, Greg Cody, print journalist, looks down on all of us, fans included.

Especially.

This room is still reeling.

The room is still reeling from the number of times you hit both me and Zaszlo in the face last segment with the wet fish of if you read my column.

yeah right because my column was about the most vicious uh column i'm able to write and so i don't want anyone to think that i'm letting the dolphins off lightly just because i say it's one game okay it can be both you can exoriate the dolphins for a absolutely hapless hopeless performance and still think but it's only one game yeah but next week at home versus the patriots i mean they they are a slight favorite.

You think that's a get back on track game, right?

It better be.

So that's one and one.

Then you have at the Bills on Thursday night.

That's a chance.

Okay, so that's one and two.

Then the New Look Jets.

No, I'm not going to let you.

Justin Fields.

I'm not going to let you sneak one of these in.

Justin Fields.

Okay, all right.

I'm just trying to figure out.

That feels like it could be a loss, and you're staring down the barrel of one and three if

you beat the Patriots.

You could be sitting at 0-4 and then the Panthers is a get-back game either.

They could go 0-17.

After the Panthers is the Chargers, the Chargers, Dan just said, they look like one of the best.

This is a win.

Then the Browns, the Browns is anyone's guess.

Is Flacco going to be healthy?

We don't know.

At Atlanta, then versus the Ravens, then the Bills again, Commanders.

I mean, you may be looking at the Saints.

And the Saints honestly look like they had a shot yesterday.

Is that a win?

I'm not sure.

I think I'm going to be in Atlanta for that game.

Really?

Oh, wow.

Stop the presses.

Chris is going to Atlanta for that game.

Oh, shit.

If you want to see Chris, he might be there.

The Dolphins, Falcons.

Well, you were talking about the Saints.

Yeah.

This is the easiest part of the Dolphins schedule.

Shit.

Didn't you say seven and one, Dad?

What did you say?

No, what I said was the first eight games.

I'm not doing this anymore.

Get the Dolphins stink out of here.

Look,

I was mad yesterday at that Jags Carolina game and the weather because all of a sudden that scent is lingering into my four o'clock games.

Get out of here with that game.

Jags Panthers, please end at four o'clock.

don't stay around don't be third quarter in the middle of my four o'clock games enough with your what was that was it like a weather delay or something yes weather delay one of a couple of weather delays screwing up my youtube tv it's like i had a nice four-game plan here two things though locally that we did not get to that i did want to get to one cam ward's debut he made a couple of the throws that you want made and now after the game there's being talked about well calvin ridley you know he doesn't have to put that much zip on it he doesn't he has to put less zip on the football but cam ward made a couple of the throws that could have kept the Titans a little closer than the eight-point result looked like because the Titans were in that game.

And Cam Ward looking competent in the first game out, I don't want people to take for granted a guy coming out in his first game just because we've got used to like fast-forwarded learning curves on quarterbacks and on the road at Denver with the team that everyone was talking about, Sean Payton and Bo Nicks.

They turned the ball over a ton and still won by eight points.

Like they turned the ball over.

But Cam Ward's competence was encouraging if you're from Miami.

Yeah, and that was a prism.

And it took me by surprise.

I knew I was going to be pro Cam Ward, but I was on the edge of my seat this entire game demanding players make a play for him.

Look, it wasn't perfect by Cam Ward.

Look, they didn't score touchdowns.

He wasn't throwing the ball and completing it down the field.

I mean, receivers got to make some plays for the guy, too.

I do think that, especially on those seam routes, some touch could have been there.

And the loop-de shit that you got away with with the best best offensive line in college football last year, it's not going to be the same.

But I would say that most people entering this season would have told you Denver is the best defense in the league.

That is historically a really difficult place to play opening week at mile high, especially when they have a defense like this.

He was Tennessee's best player on offense.

They got issues along that offensive line.

He's got to help them out a little bit more.

His receivers have to help him out a little bit more.

But I thought that was very encouraging.

I think he's going to be just fine.

But that's a low.

I don't want to be the guy criticizing everything, but that's a

Dolphins.

That's what you draw the line.

When we say Cam Ward had a great game, it's based on low expectations, based on how good Denver's defense is.

For the record, no one said Cam Ward had a great game.

They scored zero touchdowns.

Just competent.

Just competent.

He was 12 for 28.

He averaged four yards.

How many drops?

A lot of drops.

A lot of drops.

A lot of drops and a lot of plays just not made.

And especially on that last drive, everybody was keeping an eye.

Like, can Kane do this?

Can Cameron do this with no timeouts?

He had the ball way too many times on the opposing end to not come away with points.

He took those loop-de-sacks.

He's got to clean that up and he will learn to clean it up.

But I was encouraged by it.

On third and 10.

Driving on enemy territory with a one-possession game.

He made the throw you need to throw to Calvin Ridley.

And Calvin Ridley was pretty good at catching footballs.

It had too much on it for Calvin Ridley.

And it's a fair complaint if you watched any part of that game.

Two things became obvious.

One of the things that Mike's talking about, the loop-de-loop in the backfield, that's not going to happen anymore.

So you either learn very quickly to move up and shoot up through the center of your pocket and use your athleticism, or you don't.

I think he'll learn it.

It's one game.

It's one game on the road under difficult circumstances.

His team's not very good.

That defense, everyone expects something from, and it has the defensive player of the year.

He didn't make the kind of mistakes that cost you the game.

And at the end of the game, he made the throw to Calvin Ridley that you have Calvin Ridley in order to make that catch at this point in his career.

I would say he did make some mistakes there that didn't help Tennessee win that game, but he was the best player that they had over there.

Talking point from this game, if I may?

Who would you rather have going forward?

Bo Nicks or Cam Wark?

Wow.

Either.

Either of them.

Well, the thing that happens with that, though, is that people are pairing now Bo Nicks and Sean Payton, as if that's a magical sprinkle juice that you can throw on something, and it'll be better than all of the other teams.

I don't believe that, but people are believing that because they saw a pretty quick jump, or what they think was a quick jump, from Denver last year.

Again, that game somehow, to me, low on the list of games from yesterday.

Can we for just a moment examine how the evening ended, okay?

Because it's an insanity.

For the Ravens, a team we all know to be good and one of the best franchises for the last 15 years, to again have a 90% win probability, up 15 all game, and obvious to the eye, better than any team in the sport that you've watched for the last three days.

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This is the quickest it goes.

Hey, this is the quickest it goes.

Stugats.

Everybody, this is the quickest it goes.

Yeah.

This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Dan, I have a question.

What is sprinkle juice like that?

That is a good question.

The hell is sprinkle juice?

Yeah.

Sounds good.

Are you like water?

Is this weird?

You get like liquid on your hands.

You just like

either juice or sprinkling.

Or magic.

Are they sprinkles on ice cream?

Is it a liquid?

It's magical the way Andrew Luck is magical riding his bicycle through your future.

Great diversionary tactic.

It's magical.

It's magical sprinkle juice.

The insanity of yesterday.

You guys would agree to have it punctuated that way.

To go from Cowboys, Eagles play the game they played.

Chiefs, Chargers play the game they played.

The one o'clock games end with insanity happening and Aaron Rodgers and the Jets in the middle of all the games, one score, everything.

Then you get to four o'clock.

Then you get to the night game, and the night game is better than any of it.

Can we play a new segment called A Moment of Truth?

All right, so this is how a moment of truth works.

So we come on here, and obviously we're experts on every sport because we watch every game of every sport.

So we know everything about every sport, every game of every sport, because that's what our profession is.

So we come on and we talk about every game of every sport because we watch every sport.

That's what being an expert's about.

Exactly, every game of every sport.

We have nothing else going on in our lives but to watch every second of every game of every sport, college included, which is a tall task on Saturdays because there's a lot of college games.

But rest assured, audience, we watched every second of every game of every sport.

A moment of truth.

I fell asleep with five minutes left in the game last night.

I said, you know what?

This game's over.

I fell asleep.

And that was my moment of truth.

Well, did you fall asleep or did you say, this game's over, I'm going to sleep?

It's a great question.

So I moved from the front part of my manor towards the back part of my manor, and I was watching it in bed as my wife was doing, I don't know, preparations for the kids for tomorrow or whatever.

And I turned it on, and I was laying down, and I was watching, but I will, moment of truth, I was dozing a bit.

I was dozing.

I think it's fair, Billy.

I think you're allowed to be tired as a father from all the football.

I was dozing.

So then my wife came in, and then I said, is this a battle worth having, keeping the television on, knowing I'm probably going to fall asleep?

Or do I turn it off?

And at that point, glasses had come off.

Oh, no.

Glasses were off.

So I was doing a lot of listening and then I was seeing a lot of blurry colors running back and forth into each other, around each other, what have you.

But it was blurry and I was just listening.

Took off the glasses, put them on the nightstand in the manor.

And my wife said, Are you still?

I was like, I'm watching, I'm watching.

And she said, Are you sure?

I said, no, this one's over.

And I turned it off and then I turned over.

Man.

And that was my moment of truth.

I have two moments of truth.

Oh, you got one.

Yeah, I got two.

I'm sorry.

Number one, I didn't watch a single second of Cam Ward

on Sunday evening.

Number two, I did the exact same thing as Billy.

There's four and a half minutes left.

It's a 40 to 25 lead.

I even remember thinking to myself, the Bills would have to score two touchdowns and two extra points, whatever, and just no way.

They missed a two-point conversion prior, and I was like,

now this is too much.

And so I trusted, I trusted the Ravens.

I like this segment, A moment of truth, like where it is that you just, you didn't have enough to see everything that you're talking about, so you're blustering your way through it.

This is where Stugatz's disagreements with Wilbon begin and end.

Like, I think Stugatz has more right than wrong in him on the Wilbon feud when he says Wilbon pretends like he's seen all the games because he talks as if he's seen all the games.

Anyone that's heard Mike Wilbon talk college football knows this.

Moment of truth for me.

I did doze off.

I saw the comeback.

I saw the big play, but I did learn this morning that Derrick Henry fumbled because I was asleep there at that point.

I mean, I saw the end of the game.

I saw it this morning.

I was like, crap.

How did this happen?

Now I need to go back and watch this.

So I had to go back and watch this.

I think it's reasonable.

I think it's reasonable.

Put on the poll.

Truth.

You fell asleep and called the game over last night with five minutes left.

Yes or no?

Like, because I think you're in the majority, not the minority.

I think that's a reasonable, especially

the way the Ravens looked all game.

Like, under what circumstances are they getting stopped?

Under what circumstances is Derrick Henry fumbling?

Like, they've got a win probability that makes it so that they are somehow the only team that always gets in that position and the team that blows it in that position most often.

Like, in the sport, it has happened.

eight times since 2021 where they've got a 90% win probability and they blow the game.

No other team has had it happen six times.

I have a moment of truth.

Oh, if I didn't have money on the game, I would have fell asleep.

Oh.

Gambling.

Oh, but Roy got the bad beat.

This has got to be the most common of the bad beats, right?

This happened to me two or three times last season with Mahomes.

Yeah, I had two bets on the game.

One of the bets were on the Ravens.

Derrick Henry, anytime touchdown.

Lamar Jackson,

over one and a half touchdowns.

That didn't hit.

Derrick Henry rushed yards and Lamar Jackson.

Don't care about all your other bets.

Couldn't care less.

Yeah, well, that one.

The one touchdown didn't hit.

That cost me $200.

Okay, again, don't care.

Let's get to the interest.

The bad beat is

nuts and balls.

I don't know why you would think all your bets are interesting or why anybody.

No, because I'm talking to show songs.

Wait, wait, did you have anything in the early window?

No, I don't care.

I don't care.

What was your Saturday, actually?

I didn't have anything on Saturday.

You like going on in Russian hockey or anything?

You should be aware of?

Anything?

Not yet.

Okay.

I like the Hawkinson overs tonight.

You want a tail?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think I got to get my money back.

Cool.

So you got to go for the sets.

That was good.

Yeah, so the bad beat was I had Josh Allen

over one and a half touchdowns, over 231.5 passing yards.

Anytime touchdowns or passing touchdowns with that one and a half?

Anytime touchdowns.

Oh, that's crazy.

And he hit that, but

over 34.5 rushing yards.

And that's what got me because he knelt down three times and lost five yards.

I'm sorry, Pat.

That hurt.

That hurt.

Sorry.

What do you think J.J.

McCarthy's going to do tonight?

He's got a young quarterback, say, lean on the tight end.

This is where I like Hawkinson.

Chris Cody wants already J.J.

McCarthy over to

the other local story that I did not get to in the local hour, and I should have because somehow it resonated across the entire pop culture sphere.

It is so strange to me, the moments like this that end up catching.

A friend of mine mentioned this morning saying that after this scorned child at a Marlins game had a ball taken away from him, and you just saw from every camera angle possible, somehow, a woman behaving in a way that was so foul and so grotesque that the internet recoiled.

The Marlins ran out and gave this child a basket full of gifts.

And they should have given this woman like a car or something for bringing this much attention to the Marlins on a football Sunday to bring this kind of attention because this woman was terrible.

And the man, her

father, uh brings the child his son a a baseball and then the woman just takes it from him berating him uh billy why are you laughing why you laugh i'm getting confused this is what happened a homeron was hit by a one of the phillies and then there were philly fans there a dad rans over grabs the ball gives it to his son they're celebrating then this crazy woman goes by and starts screaming at him in his face the man jumps backwards when she tapped him on the shoulder because he was he was taken aback He was surprised by what was happening.

Then she was yelling at him, that's my ball, that's my ball, or something like that.

And then finally, this man who was embracing his son, hugged him even, because he was so loving of his son and so happy to share this moment, just says, you know what?

Fine, take it, and brushes her away, takes the ball out of his glove, and then gives it to this woman who people are calling Philly's Karen.

Thank you, Billy.

That was very good.

You did it much better than us.

And then.

That's when things got interesting because then the camera saw it.

And then this was going around on the interwebs and people were getting very mad, which, by the way, they still have not found who this Philly's Karen, as they've named her, is.

But the father has gone and he's done interviews with his children but we still don't know the identity of this Phillies Karen but more videos have come out from different angles where there's people behind where you can hear her screaming at the child then there's another video from the top where people are booing this Phillies fan and she's giving them the middle finger oh yeah she's giving everyone around the middle finger while holding up the ball yeah she was a bit some are saying unhinged I don't know exactly what was going on there but the Marlins gave them all these goodies and then after the game he met the Phillies player that hit the home run who signed a bat for him and they all went out and you know what I think the biggest trauma of all is that at the end of the day they're still Phillies fans and the guy did nothing wrong

there's a lot of soft energy there with that guy though

well wait a minute says the father whose teenage son calls him sugar tits okay but when it came down to it I beat his ass I'm still man of the house what are you implying the guy should have done

I want to let's talk this out yeah no stand up business I'll tell you what he said I will tell you a couple things he should have done okay all right well we'll get to that in a second because everyone's doing this one too today.

How meek of that man to feel in today's America, like he doesn't have quite a lot of options here on optics as he's being berated for taking a baseball from someone who believes, and everyone believes that she does it, that's been wronged.

And then when we have 40 different camera angles, everyone realizes, wait a minute, this woman's just being, she is romping all over the arena, grabbing baseballs and making up stories.

And everyone sees her unmasked and it's the way this thing ends up going viral because everyone no matter your political leaning is appalled by the behavior of this woman every everyone if she has a kid with her maybe

i'll give her a little leeway but no there's no kid with her he doesn't rip it out of her hand it's a scrum the ball's on the ground it's just not even in her row it's actually in his row exactly it's but what options does he have there like i know a lot of people are not give her the ball yeah not give the ball okay get out of my face

the ball was in my son's mitt.

Not give her the ball.

I like, though, like, I would have done what he did, just the pat, like, just like, okay, you want this?

It's that important to you?

Go ahead.

I think he played it perfectly.

Not me.

She tried to grab him.

What are you going to do, Sazzy?

That's assault.

You're just.

Well, it's not about what I'm going to do.

It's what I'm not going to do.

And that's take the ball out of my son's mitt and give it to her.

That's definitely what I'm not doing.

Okay.

And Brad Cody is for sure not giving up the ball.

Hell no.

That's for sure.

She was not entitled to the ball based on what I saw.

Look, the way that I'm looking at that, and forgive me.

You've seen plenty entitled.

I don't have kids, okay?

But I'm looking at a father in the middle of that who is embarrassed that he's in the middle of a scene that was just lovely for him a second ago because he was bringing his child a ball, and now he's in the middle of being yelled at by somebody.

And while all of you, I get it, in retrospect, oh, he looked meek, or oh, come on, buck up,

I understand how he might want that whole commotion to get away from his son because already what was a beautiful moment has been ruined.

And now also we're going to emasculate him today because, hey, dad, we would have done it better.

We would have never given him the ball.

Okay, I get it.

I understand how it is.

All of us would arrive at armchair quarterbacking, even that one.

Dolphins played fine, but that guy should have done it differently.

But that woman, everyone is pouncing on her because everyone sees, oh, you put dad in a bad spot and you ruined that kid's feel good.

And you didn't have a kid with you the balls are for the kids it's just like if there's a rule of baseball you give a ball to the kid I was thinking to myself or after the game or after that happened that woman right there I mean she looks like she's probably like in her 50s so she probably has a son or a daughter for that matter and that that son or daughter is seeing these replays someone like oh my god but what kind

I don't know what if look again I'm not a parent but What do you want to show your child in that moment?

And today that child wins, correct?

Totally.

That kid wins.

I don't know if you want any of this kind of attention around any of it, right?

Like, because I'm not any of you.

I don't think if you're dad, if you're her, or if you're the kid, you actually want the attention that ends up coming from this.

You might want the gifts, but

I don't know about how you guys feel about it, but...

This incessant sort of energy of people needing to argue about everything on the internet and then things on the internet becoming real to a woman like this who's now going to be shamed pretty provocatively by people who are mean, who will come at her for their variety of reasons.

That just turns all of this into an avatar where sports spills into

politics.

But you know what?

With the woman, it wasn't even, yes, she is being shamed and it's going to continue being shamed for her, but it wasn't even like she reacted poorly in a moment, in an instance.

It was so much carrying on.

Like, it was the whole yelling to get the ball, and then it was all the interactions afterward.

Like, it was a whole thing with this woman.

It wasn't even just like in a split second I behaved poorly.

I think it's pretty easy to determine what the guy should have done.

If I'm in the middle of that scrum going for the ball, if as the guy who walked away with the ball, if I realize, you know what, she had the ball and I took it out of her hand, then I'm probably going to give it back.

If I have every bit as much entitlement to that ball, if not more, as she does, I'm going to turn around on her and say, get out of my face.

You did not get that ball.

I got that ball.

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Stugats.

Is this Chumbucket?

This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

According to the TimesofIndia.com,

there are two women who have now come out and denied being Phillies Karen.

One of the rumors had a school district denying that they employed said Phillies Karen, that that person is not an employee of theirs and they had not fired said employee because rumors were going around that Philly's Karen had lost her job in the school system.

Which I think some of us, I don't know if we can all agree, I think some of us would agree that's probably a bit much, firing a person over this incident.

But this is what social media and the internet do, right?

Like, it's as if she robbed a bank.

It's as if there's grainy footage of this woman running out of a bank with two big bags of her.

Look, just so that you understand what this public shaming just does to people,

her life will feel ruined to her.

Like, we can say it's not, but her life will feel ruined to her for however long this lasts.

And we can dismiss that and say that that's a silly silly thing to think.

But in your football Sunday for this to make a live wire appearance on, ooh, let's all hate this person together.

That feels good, shaming her for what is clearly bad behavior.

I know it shows no perspective to say her life will be ruined, but it'll feel that way to her.

Yeah, but she brought it on herself.

The sheer entitlement.

Well, that's what everyone is going to say.

Insane behavior.

That is correct.

It is insane behavior.

I feel like if you behave that way, you probably don't look back and see the video and think like, oh, I was wrong.

I feel ashamed of this.

I feel like you probably are surrounded by people who are like mine are like, yeah, that's your ball.

Like you didn't do anything wrong.

That's what I'm saying.

It wasn't like a singular.

Second where she behaved poorly.

It was so much carrying on.

Like, I don't think this woman looks back at it and says, wow, I regret this.

You do see sometimes where there are like fights over balls and stuff like that, where like then, you know, the peer pressure around you is like, like the guy, for instance, just gave her the ball because like, maybe I was wrong.

I'll give her the ball, right?

Where fans are booing whatever.

and then the person's like, ah, you know what?

You're right, and they go and they give the ball back.

But this person then went and was giving people the middle finger, was egging on the crowd.

So, like, clearly, she did not think she was in the wrong at all.

I don't want to go too much further today.

Forgive me for this, because I'm sure we will be enveloped throughout the show, all football things.

Yeah, Dolphins at Jets, December 7th.

We didn't get to that.

Yeah, we haven't quite got to that.

That might be a trap game.

After that, it's at Steelers.

So it could be a look-ahead trap game.

And then the Bengals, I mean, hosting the Bengals in December.

Whewfuck.

This might be the softer part of their schedule.

Saints, Jets, Steelers, Bengals.

Bengals.

Bengals looked Bengals looked forgettable yesterday.

Joe Burrow against those cornerbacks.

Is that one and three?

I mean, you mentioned the Bengals.

I don't know on the list of goats.

How do we spell?

Can anyone here spell the name of the Browns kicker?

It's got a Y, a Z, and a K in it, and one vowel, and I don't know how to say it or spell it.

Missed it.

Missed it.

I don't think that's correct.

I don't know.

Can any of you spell it?

Do any because if SMIZT, put it on the poll at Lebatard Show, would any jury convict today Miles Garrett, who almost had three sacks on three straight plays and a safety on one of them, if he strangled, missed it?

with his bare hands.

Like just with his bare hands, if he just, I'm not saying that it ends in death.

I'm just saying that if we had video today of Miles Garrett choking his kicker

by the throat, and again, no harm done, it's just bad optics.

All of us would say, yes, yes, of course, we understand.

Everybody understands.

Put that off to the side, put Bengals in another slow start and Browns off to the side.

Because also this weekend, something that I thought bears noting in tennis, okay, and I think Greg Cody both, we were both there in Key Biscayne when it was announced to sort of everyone at a 21-year-old Jokovich was going to be somebody who challenged Federer and Nadal.

And he had not won majors yet then, but it was just clear to everyone in the sport, not that he would be this, because no one could have imagined him being 24 Grand Slams.

No one could have imagined that, but with top Federer and Nadal, I don't want the football weekend to blow out the fact that after losing at the U.S.

Open, after 17 years of

dominance, he just said, Yeah, after five sets, I can't beat those two guys.

Like, they are now too good.

You do not hear somebody at his level of greatness just bow down and say, no, they're better now.

It's obvious when you're still out there expecting him sometimes to win, but it's also obvious the young guys are going to have more stamina, five sets, than

someone who's that age.

He's going to age the way a tennis player must, not the way Aaron Rodgers all of a sudden did on Sunday.

Even in the Big Three era, though, when you had Fedora, Djokovic, Nadal doing their thing, you had Vavrenka be feisty.

You had Andy Murray come out for a brief moment in time.

It was a big four.

I'm watching the last few slams, and I'm like, man, I miss having a third guy in the mix because there is a wide gulf in the ATP ranks right now.

Those two guys are really, really good.

And when the third guy is Djokovic at the end of his career, you don't really have a third guy at this point.

You guys are with me, though.

That level of greatness never says that out loud when it's still the third best player in the world.

Yeah, I thought it was refreshing.

I really did.

I give Jokovich credit for doing that.

You know, Federer retired.

Nadal is fading fast.

Jokovich is the last of the big three.

Nadal's gone.

Nadal's retired.

Yeah, he's, well, okay.

Isn't he still playing?

No, he's famously retired.

Okay.

So Jokovich...

Why do you guys say it like this?

Well, because of how stubborn Greg is.

He's not going to concede the point.

He's just not going to concede the point.

No, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

But stubbornly and not immediately.

If you're wrong, you're wrong.

Stubbornly and not immediately.

We had a bunch of emotional goodbyes to them.

Okay.

There were a lot of emotional goodbyes.

Yeah, you may be right.

Okay.

I may be crazy.

Yeah, I'm not saying.

For me, the story is not so much the ATP ranks because ATP is...

There have always been like a consistent, there's always been a consistent final in the ATP for the last 25 years.

On the WTA side, Serena spoiled us and kind of ruined that sport because you see a lot of challengers come and go at that sport.

And for Sabalenka to have an extended period of run here where she's taking the slams making the finals while Coco is still inconsistent at this part in the career I thought Sabalenka's consistency is a story and also Osaka's dream comeback falling just short but the WTA was more interesting than the ATP side and honestly Pretty disappointing tournament on the whole.

Not a lot of shock results in that tournament.

It was kind of a bummer.

You say not a lot of shock results.

I'm telling you, though, that I know it's a small morsel, but it was shocking to me.

I mean Federer and Nadal never ceded the space to him that way, vocally just saying, these guys are now better than me.

My time is done.

Like, we're,

I just, I'm not used to that level of greatness conceding.

They never know.

They always think they're going to come back.

For him to say after 17 years of whatever that's done to his body, where he runs off, again, go read about Nadal's foot problems.

He's going to be walking with pain for the the rest of his life because he finished third among these two.

I don't know what Federer's body's going to feel like because he's a robot who never showed any emotion.

But even at the end, he wasn't saying Djokovic is going to take my shit.

No, but it kind of sunset his career.

He skipped a lot of tournaments and he wasn't really up for the fight once Jokovich finally hit his form, in part because Jokovich hit his form.

Happy birthday today to one of the best doing it in football.

I can't wait to see what it is that she has to say about yesterday's results.

Happy birthday to Mina Kim.

Happy birthday to her.

I don't care.

Good luck.

Let's talk for a second about Steelers Jets and the ending of that game and Jalen Ramsey as part of Win Now Steelers,

signaling to all in that game, in that stadium, to the Jets.

Here's what the quarterback looks like when he's a part of a good organization.

And we all know what he looked like when he was a part of a bad organization.

All of a sudden, today, and this is some kind of weird miracle that we're talking about Josh Allen, instead of the four-time MVP of the league, looked like

somebody who can win a game on the road against the Jets in a way that he did not look like last season when the Jets had him throwing the ball nine yards at a time.

I have to be gas bag of the week in thinking that the Steelers were going to play football like Ben Rothlisberger played at the end.

It's all seven-yard slants from here.

And you can do that with DK Metcalf.

But DK Metcalf will also get you four catches for 80 yards.

And the Jets didn't have a whole lot of that, even with Garrett Wilson last year.

To have the Jets lose

that way,

where the win-now Steelers of We're an organization run right, give you Jalen Ramsey at the end taking out your best player.

Garrett Wilson's the one you gave all the money at the end of that game.

He loses it at the end because they asked him to make a play, and Jalen Ramsey took it from him.

That's what Jalen Ramsey is.

That's why he's there and he won the game at the end.

That's an entrance that gets you the kind of love in Pittsburgh where you create hope for a franchise because wait a minute, the four-time MVP is going to look like four touchdowns, no interceptions, throwing the ball down the field on a defense we know to be good.

That's going to be our offense.

We haven't had that offense here since Rothblessberger was taking us to the Super Bowl.

We didn't have that offense here when Rothblessberger was in the last three or four years of his career and running around back there like a skyscraper with legs.

Can I give you a counterpoint on the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers?

They needed Aaron Rodgers to go 22 of 30 for 244 yards and a touchdown to barely beat the Jets and score 17 points in the fourth quarter.

Like, that's...

We had four touchdowns.

Yeah, four touchdowns.

They had to score 17 points in the fourth quarter just to beat the Jets.

Like, he's not going to do that every week.

I know, I know, but he did it on the road against a defense we think is good.

He was a good defense.

And he he was feeling himself after the game.

You spoke about the meeting with Aaron Glenn on McAfee a few months ago.

Beating him, is there significance in that since he basically told you to your face that he didn't think you were right for that team?

Yes, that's what he did.

So there's significance in beating him for you?

I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.

He didn't have a game that looked like that all of last year.

It was the lowest total on the board.

People were expecting under 37 and a half, and it wasn't.

And he did it to a good defense, and he did it playing offense that was not constipated.

You don't have a lot more that could have felt better than that if you're a Steelers fan.

It's exactly what they wanted this offseason to get Mike Tomlin, to get people away from him because they can win a game like that in the playoffs.

They can outshoot you even if you have a good defense.

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