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Speaker 13 I want to start a totally new, fresh segment that has never been done anywhere in entertainment before where Billy was right and where Billy was wrong.

Speaker 13 But before we do that, Billy came in today and the first words he said to me, it wasn't good morning, it was COVID ruined nobility.

Speaker 13 I don't have any other thoughts beyond that because you haven't expounded. You just, it's the first thing I heard from you and then you walked away.

Speaker 15 Well, I don't like the segment that you're pitching just on the front end. I don't like that situation whatsoever.

Speaker 17 No, I just, I'm sick.

Speaker 18 I don't know if you can hear. I'm a little bit sick.

Speaker 20 And there was like a time when you were sick and you didn't want to leave your team down or your coworkers down or whatever. And you're like, I'm going to power through.
I'm going to go into work.

Speaker 20 And now that's very much frowned upon.

Speaker 19 Like, I would love to have stayed home today, but I was like, you know what?

Speaker 22 I'm not going to miss two days in a row.

Speaker 19 I'm going to go in and I'm just getting judgment left and right when I'm out there.

Speaker 20 I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 17 I'm not touching people's food.

Speaker 21 I'm not sneezing in their faces.

Speaker 17 I'm just existing.

Speaker 13 You don't feel like you're welcome. We missed you yesterday.
I don't.

Speaker 13 Wild Willie Wednesday was missed yesterday.

Speaker 20 I actually had Robert told me, Robert, who does something here.

Speaker 24 Robert said he's the head of our IT.

Speaker 13 He doesn't do something.

Speaker 9 Engineering, not IT down. He keeps everything.

Speaker 13 He keeps everything up in the air. He tries.

Speaker 16 So, anyways, Robert told me, go home.

Speaker 20 And I was like, oh,

Speaker 16 okay, welcome, Robert.

Speaker 22 Thank you for welcoming me in.

Speaker 13 Do you want me to start with where Billy was right or where Billy was wrong?

Speaker 25 Neither, ideally.

Speaker 22 Why, did you see The Smashing Machine? Are you going to talk to me about that movie?

Speaker 13 I didn't see The Smashing Machine, but I was.

Speaker 9 This A24 of yours is something else, man. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 18 A24, everything they do is great watch the smashing machine a24 has a better studio pub than any studio making things right now a24 is awesome i love their so did bernie made off until the end right everyone's like oh we got to trust this bernie made off situation then all of a sudden we couldn't trust him anymore look this is all i'll say about the smashing machine which is not what we were talking about and i don't want to ruin the movie i'm not going to give you any spoilers it's just like you standing out because everyone loves the smashing machine no i'm not trying to stand out but i'm just saying if you watch scene to scene and I'm not someone that likes how I watch movies.

Speaker 27 Here's the score, here's the, you know, lighting, here's the writing, here's the this, here's the that.

Speaker 19 I'm not someone who would ever be like the makeup in this movie, but I will say this, and when you're watching it, and I don't want this to be like the situation where like we pointed out how much Dugats fake laughed on stupidity and no one could watch it again after that because they're like, oh, all it is is fake laughing.

Speaker 18 But if you watch the smashing machine, just go scene to scene and try to tell me that The Rock looks like the same person from one scene to the next.

Speaker 23 Because every time it seems like, okay, this was a different day of shooting because he just looks different with all of the prosthetics and stuff.

Speaker 17 Doesn't look like the same person from the moment.

Speaker 12 I don't want to think about it now when I see it. Like,

Speaker 30 you may have just ruined it for me.

Speaker 23 I told you, don't let this ruin it for you.

Speaker 9 That doesn't matter.

Speaker 13 You don't

Speaker 9 say that.

Speaker 12 You don't get to say, don't let something ruin it and then say the thing. And it's like, I have to remember, oh, but Billy told me not to let it ruin it for me.

Speaker 9 That's the way it works. That's how you spot the reshoots.
Do that with Marvel movies, too. Wait, that's on its beard length.

Speaker 13 Do you guys think that if you were Colin Farrell or Dwayne The Rock Johnson, that you would do anything that required you to be three or four hours a day in makeup?

Speaker 9 How much am I getting paid?

Speaker 13 But they get paid that without being three or four hours a day in makeup.

Speaker 31 Yeah, but they're paying me that, so I'm going to do that.

Speaker 9 Nah, not if it gets you hardware. Hardware takes you to a new salary structure.

Speaker 29 But The Rock's already like the highest grossing person. He already gets paid the most.

Speaker 4 Like the hardware is just about.

Speaker 5 Love of the game. You know what he wants? Respect.

Speaker 31 That's right.

Speaker 26 I want my my respect.

Speaker 12 Who are you impersonating? And that's LeBron after he won his four-to-I want my damn respect.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 13 It's not a great impersonation you're doing.

Speaker 9 He doesn't deserve a good impersonation. What do you mean?

Speaker 9 He's still one of the top 10 players in the world and he's 400 years old.

Speaker 26 Wins a championship. I want my damn respect.

Speaker 32 This is the Don Labatar show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 13 Put it on the poll, please, Juju at Lebatard Show. Have you spent the last couple of weeks singing that Greg Cody football song? Because it's a bit of a banger.

Speaker 13 Jeremy is in the other room now, changing all of his permutations from yesterday.

Speaker 13 As soon as we started talking about the Marlins playoff permutations, the Phillies hit eight home runs against the Marlins to win last night. It's the most the Phillies have ever hit in a game.

Speaker 13 Can you guys look up for me how long the Phillies have been playing baseball?

Speaker 13 Because I think it's fairly amazing that as soon as we started talking about the Marlins playoff possibilities, they lose 11 to 1. A Sosa not named Sammy hits three home runs.

Speaker 13 Schwarber of Corps hits, of course, hits two. 50 home runs used to mean something, but now Seattle has a catcher, the big dumper, who just hit 60.

Speaker 13 And he is, let's see, who do we have non-steroid division who's ever hit 60 before? Because he's the seventh player ever to hit 60. But non-steroid division, it's just Roger Maris and Babe Ruth.

Speaker 13 Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge has also hit 60.
Didn't know that.

Speaker 26 Are you sure about Maris?

Speaker 9 Yeah, remember when we couldn't watch a Wake Forest football game without being reminded?

Speaker 9 Not the same sort of fanfare for a catcher to do it, which is kind of weird.

Speaker 13 Or a non-Yankee.

Speaker 13 Seattle's a very likable team.

Speaker 31 Phillies started playing baseball May 1st, 1883.

Speaker 13 So, okay, so it's been 150 years that the Phillies have been playing baseball, and they've never hit eight home runs in a game until we started talking about the Marlins playoff chances.

Speaker 9 Let me be real and upfront with the audience. I'm in a Mariners group chat.
Haven't watched a single game this year. I was all in last year, this year, married with a kid.

Speaker 9 You know, baseball kind of fell by the wayside this year.

Speaker 9 Hard to track. It is absolutely insane to me that a catcher hits 60 home runs.
More so that it's a really good defensive catcher.

Speaker 9 Like, he won a platinum glove, which I just discovered is a thing, which means it's not just you're the best at your position. It's better than a gold glove.

Speaker 9 You're the best defensive player in your league.

Speaker 12 Wait, gold is better than platinum?

Speaker 13 No, I'm saying platinum is better than gold.

Speaker 9 Platinum is better than gold because it is the best defensive player regardless of position. He won that last year.

Speaker 9 All right, this is a guy that two years ago told his GM and manager to make some moves at the trade deadline and he was admonished for it.

Speaker 9 And then two years later, he's helping win that team its first division title since 2001 as a Sterling defensive catcher, as a catcher that hits a ridiculous 60-home runs.

Speaker 13 He hit two yesterday. We'll get back to him.

Speaker 9 One made it in the third deck.

Speaker 13 It's crazy how good he is.

Speaker 13 And I am not ashamed to tell you that the sport has changed so much that I'm just wildly confused as to why it is there weren't a whole bunch of people hitting 60 home runs before this.

Speaker 13 Now that Aaron Judge can get into the 50s easily. He's got like three or four straight seasons of 50 home runs.

Speaker 13 The game has changed so much that it's legitimately disorienting to me to see the way they're playing it now, where a fourth of the time players strike out. That's just league average.

Speaker 13 One out of every four players is striking out, and they're all swinging for home runs. But Bill, you were sick yesterday, and I want to get to where Billy was right and where Billy was wrong.

Speaker 13 But before I go to Jeremy out there to give us the new playoff permutations, because the Marlins haven't been eliminated yet, I want to get your thoughts on meaningful Marlins baseball the last week of the season.

Speaker 13 Were you hurting last night while you were watching? Certainly you've been interested in the seven-game winning streak that preceded that, right?

Speaker 16 I mean, hurting, no.

Speaker 22 It was funny to see like September 24th or whatever that a bunch of Phillies fans were tweeting at me talking crap where it's like, guys, like you've won this division.

Speaker 21 If you're flexing on beating the Marlins the end of September, like you're a loser.

Speaker 22 You have a loser mentality.

Speaker 19 You're not going to win the World Series when you're tweeting at Billy Gill about the Phillies hitting eight home runs in a game.

Speaker 8 I'm surprised that they're still in it.

Speaker 19 Like, it's a great story that there's like four games left in the season and they're still not technically eliminated.

Speaker 19 I mean, I don't think that anybody know or thinks that they're going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 25 They have to jump too many teams, but it's still meaningful.

Speaker 21 And now you can see in the offseason, like, hey, do you build upon this team or was this kind of like a fluky situation?

Speaker 19 It's a fun spot to be in where they're still competing.

Speaker 5 I can't decide whether I want to be mad at the organization for not spending more, being like, oh, look what this roster you had. If you would have spent a little more, you could be better.

Speaker 6 Or you could look at it as look how good they're doing without spending.

Speaker 6 Like the Mets are probably looking at the Marlins like, look how much money we're spending, and we're a couple games ahead of these guys.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but you had a lot of guys kind of come out of nowhere that like Peter Bendix could have believed in by acquiring them as throw-in pieces in a trade, but like you don't know that they're going to pan out the way that they've panned out.

Speaker 19 So it's a surprise team and you can kind of see how they build around it.

Speaker 21 I did like this.

Speaker 19 I did like that Sandy was pushed to go start in the Mets series just to ruin the Mets season.

Speaker 12 Like, I love what day is he supposed to start?

Speaker 19 That's a good question.

Speaker 13 He's been

Speaker 13 better the last half of the season, but to your point, Chris, as to whether they should have spent or not, if their Cy Young winner had simply been Cy Young, they'd be in the playoffs like the Mets are.

Speaker 13 They didn't need to go acquire a whole bunch of people. They just needed their Cy Young winner not to have an ERA of five and a half for the season.

Speaker 13 If he'd simply been mediocre all season, not even a Cy Young winner.

Speaker 13 Not even a Cy Young winner. If their cy Young winner had been mediocre this season, we'd be talking about them already being in the playoffs.

Speaker 13 But let's go out to Jeremy, who's had to recalculate all of this math now. Jeremy, keep us up to date on

Speaker 13 I thought yesterday would be catastrophic. I thought losing 11-1 to the Phillies would eliminate them, but they are still somehow in it.
Explain to me how that's so.

Speaker 3 That's right, Dan. So the Marlins are still in it based off all these permutations.

Speaker 3 The thing that you need to know first and foremost is the Marlins are going to need to go 4-0 4-0 to make the postseason.

Speaker 3 The moment they lose a game, whether that's tonight against the Phillies or any game against the Mets, they will be eliminated.

Speaker 3 But in order to keep their playoff hopes alive, the only things that they need are a Mets loss.

Speaker 9 The only tonight.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 Let's just hear me out.

Speaker 10 They need to win out.

Speaker 3 They need the Mets to lose tonight to the Chicago Cubs, because, of course, the Marlins winning out would mean the Mets lose out from there.

Speaker 3 And they need Arizona and Cincinnati to not win two more games. They can each win one more of their next four in order for the Marlins to advance.

Speaker 13 Chris Cody, what are you laughing about?

Speaker 24 So many words up there.

Speaker 6 Like,

Speaker 1 they're screwed. You should have just put, we're screwed.

Speaker 9 No, they're still in it.

Speaker 3 This is very much alive. Guys, Arizona and Cincinnati.

Speaker 9 They're very much alive. They're alive.

Speaker 3 They're alive with four games to play.

Speaker 24 But you would call it very much alive?

Speaker 3 Here's why they're very much alive. Because look at all of the tiebreaker scenarios.
The only team that the Marlins can end up in a two-team tiebreaker with at this point would be the Mets at 81 wins.

Speaker 3 Okay, 81 and 81. I was saying 82 and 82 yesterday.
I was speeding myself up. That's my mistake.
But at 81 and 81, they would tie with the Mets.

Speaker 3 They would clinch the postseason berth because of their 8-5 head-to-head record with New York. Then look at every three-team tiebreaker that's possible.

Speaker 3 They They all include the Mets, and thus that 8-5 record against the Mets, should they sweep them this weekend, Marlins would clinch every single three-team tiebreaker.

Speaker 13 Jeremy, hold on. You're telling me that the Marlins can actually knock the Mets out of the playoffs by simply sweeping them at the end of the season? The Mets, I thought the Mets were in.

Speaker 22 Not if they win today, though.

Speaker 3 If the Mets win today, if the Mets win today, the only thing the Marlins can do is knock the Mets out because Arizona or Cincinnati could ultimately jump them.

Speaker 3 But if the Mets lose tonight and the Marlins sweep them, the Marlins would make the postseason over the Mets. That is factually correct because of the nothing else has to happen.

Speaker 5 If the Mets lose tonight and we sweep the Mets, we're in the playoffs.

Speaker 9 No, then

Speaker 5 you need

Speaker 7 all guys.

Speaker 3 This is not that complicated.

Speaker 12 Arizona and Cincinnati cannot both win tonight.

Speaker 28 And if the Mariners do something.

Speaker 3 They can win tonight. They would just need to be swept over the weekend.
You need Arizona or Cincinnati to end up at 81 games as well, right? They both have 80 wins right now.

Speaker 3 They have four games to play. You can't let them get to 82.
It's that simple. But if they stay at 81 wins, they go one and three over their next four, which is entirely possible.

Speaker 3 These teams are all sitting right around 500. That's where you get into the tiebreaker scenarios.
And as you look through it.

Speaker 9 All right, I think we're done with this.

Speaker 13 He's going to go to four team tiebreakers.

Speaker 29 He didn't get to the six teams.

Speaker 13 What about the six-team tie? Go ahead, Jeremy. Go ahead.

Speaker 13 Keep going.

Speaker 3 All it is is to say, the six-team tiebreaker, I didn't get to finish writing it. Ultimately, that would go to the Marlins as well.

Speaker 3 They would have the best head-to-head record against the other five teams combined. And when you look at it, the three-team tiebreakers, Marlins would clinch all of them.

Speaker 3 The four-team tiebreakers, the Marlins would clinch every single one of them, unless it was the Marlins, the Mets, the Diamondbacks, and the Reds, because of percentage points.

Speaker 3 The Reds would have a better percentage points record, 579 to 576, over the Marlins.

Speaker 3 Outside of that, every single potential tiebreaker at 81 wins, the Marlins would win that tiebreaker because of their head-to-head record against these teams.

Speaker 20 How would you win a five-team tiebreaker, including Cincinnati, but not a four-team tiebreaker, including Cincinnati?

Speaker 3 Because ultimately, the record against St. Louis and San Francisco.

Speaker 3 So the head-to-head record for the Marlins against those individual teams is stronger than the head-to-head record for the Reds against those individual teams.

Speaker 10 Wait, we do two team tiebreakers?

Speaker 21 We don't do the game 163 anymore?

Speaker 3 We do not do the game 163.

Speaker 9 I don't like Jeremy. Look at the screen tiebreaker.
Look at the screen. Yeah, I see the screen.

Speaker 13 No, leave Jeremy alone. That's a joke for the audience.

Speaker 17 Remember game 163 a couple years ago?

Speaker 17 Oh my God, it was like the most exciting baseball game of the season.

Speaker 24 An actual playoff game.

Speaker 19 More people probably watch that than the World Series.

Speaker 16 I don't know if that's true or not, but I remember, right?

Speaker 17 It was the Rockies, someone else, and one of the bald Rocky guys slides into home, plate, he cuts his chin, his helmet comes off. I'll never forget it.

Speaker 21 I don't remember the name of the team, but I'll never forget it.

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Speaker 1 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 34 That was a long story.

Speaker 9 Yeah. It's the only kind he tells.

Speaker 25 It's a short one for me. I tried to speed it up for you guys.

Speaker 7 You forgot about the Leagues Cup.

Speaker 1 Stugats.

Speaker 13 La Careta is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 97 Marlins celebration because it was Leviathan.

Speaker 15 Well, when Fidel died the first time.

Speaker 32 This is the Don Lebatar Show with his two gods.

Speaker 13 There is something that was more watched than a World Series game a couple of nights ago. It's the Jimmy Kimmel show.
That is something that represents where Billy was wrong.

Speaker 13 The number that the Jimmy Kimmel show, Jimmy Kimmel Live, did was over 6 million people tuning in live to late-night television. That's a college football number.

Speaker 9 That's nuts.

Speaker 13 That is a nut.

Speaker 13 That is crazy to have that in the middle of the night.

Speaker 9 Miami, Florida did six and a half million viewers.

Speaker 22 Maybe more interested in Glenn Powell.

Speaker 13 And Billy, you'll be happy to know that you were right and I was wrong.

Speaker 13 Those arches out there that they're spending $850 million on are indeed the thing that is going to be holding up the bridge of the future. Really?

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 13 it's not the actual bridge.

Speaker 18 It's a suspension bridge.

Speaker 13 But it's going to be, it is what he was saying. It's going to be like the Golden Gate Bridge where they're building the arches and the arches is where the bridge will hang from.

Speaker 13 You will not drive, obviously, on the arches, but that's what's going to hold up the bridge that they're building out there that has made downtown such a zoo.

Speaker 12 Driving on the arch would be intense.

Speaker 9 Was anyone asking that question?

Speaker 19 I don't think anyone thought they were going to drive on that arch.

Speaker 9 Wait, did you think that? Did Dan think this?

Speaker 13 I didn't think it was a bridge. I just thought it was an arch.
I thought it was only meant to be something that made our skyline beautiful. I didn't think they were attaching a bridge to it.

Speaker 9 Like a bike path in there, maybe?

Speaker 13 I thought it was just an ornament.

Speaker 13 That'd be a great bike path.

Speaker 9 I don't know about great paths.

Speaker 9 The way up is going to be hell.

Speaker 17 It looks hollow on the inside, right?

Speaker 19 Like, you think if you walk across that little bridge there that's holding the two pieces together, you think if you walk across it, you slide down that side?

Speaker 6 I want Tony's next week's top five from there, right there.

Speaker 23 Stay there. From where?

Speaker 1 That little like bridge.

Speaker 7 The scaffold that's holding the paper

Speaker 22 between the two of them.

Speaker 25 That's where I want want you.

Speaker 13 A little dangerous suspension thing.

Speaker 7 You bail me out?

Speaker 13 Jeremy will be doing pitch clock today later in the show in post-game. The baseball playoffs are about to start.
It's an exciting time. I do love this time of year.

Speaker 13 I can't believe what's happening with the Detroit Tigers. It's the single worst collapse in baseball history.

Speaker 13 They were 15 and a half up in the middle of July, and it's just not something that you ever see.

Speaker 13 But I want to talk about the home runs last night, and I want to talk about Cal Rally, like the idea idea.

Speaker 9 The Maris family better be there, and we better get cut-ins.

Speaker 9 He can pass Judge. There's four games left.

Speaker 10 He can do this.

Speaker 9 Hell, he can catch Bonds. I wouldn't put it past him because nothing gets past Big Dumper.

Speaker 12 What's he got to do to pass Bonds?

Speaker 9 13 more, I think. Well, to tie.

Speaker 13 In four games? Are they still playing in Colorado? Do they have the four games in Colorado? He hit two last night in Colorado.

Speaker 9 Big Dumper, my boy. He's got pop.
Which leads me to a traditional sports radio topic. Who's the greatest FSU catcher of all time? Whoa.

Speaker 1 He is. Like two options, right?

Speaker 9 I mean, no, no, you got three. You got Maurer.
You got Buster Posey. Mauer.

Speaker 10 And you got the big dumper.

Speaker 9 So we take them all at the peak of their powers. And again, Buster Posey, brilliant player, tremendous defensive player as well.

Speaker 9 Dumper, platinum glove there, Zaslow. So I would say.

Speaker 12 Who was the Marlin that almost ended Buster Posey's career?

Speaker 31 Scott Cousins.

Speaker 9 Scott Cousins. That's right.

Speaker 7 They got that.

Speaker 25 Stupid Buster Posey ruined baseball.

Speaker 9 So you take this Cal Raleigh season and you make that the algamation of Cal Raleigh at the peak of his powers. And that's a 7.2 war.

Speaker 9 Buster Posey's best war was 7.6, which is, it just boggles the mind. Like, how could Buster Posey have had a better season?

Speaker 13 Well, he had an MVP season. They won the World Series when he was an MVP.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but Cal's having an MVP season and he's hitting 60 dingers.

Speaker 13 All right, put it on the poll, please. Did stupid Buster Posey ruin baseball?

Speaker 28 It used to be my computer, like, backdrop.

Speaker 18 Scott Cousins trucking Buster Posey.

Speaker 19 You know, when you used to be able to put an image.

Speaker 20 I guess you still can.

Speaker 30 I think you still can. On your laptop.

Speaker 16 Yeah, but does any no one does that anymore, right? On their laptop?

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Sure, why not? Do you? Yeah.

Speaker 7 What's your background?

Speaker 12 My show logo, Sazzo Show 2.0.

Speaker 9 Billy,

Speaker 13 I don't think you said Buster Posey might be better than Big Dumper, and he was the MVP of a championship season, but did Buster Posey ever hit even 30 home runs in a season?

Speaker 13 Did he ever hit 25 home runs? Did Buster Posey ever hit 25 home runs in a season so that you guys can sort of absorb how much baseball has changed?

Speaker 13 Did the MVP of a World Series champion, Buster Posey, ever hit 30 home runs in a season?

Speaker 28 No, his career high was 24.

Speaker 13 That season, probably.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 13 And so when it comes to individual measurements, Mike, I think OPS and OPS Plus is where you go.

Speaker 13 Is Big Dumper having a better OPS and OPS Plus season than Buster Posey did the greatest season of his life when he won the MVP MVP and they won the championship.

Speaker 9 I'm not here to be deposed. That's for somebody else to figure out.
But I think Jeremy does have an update on my traditional sports radio topic. We kick it out to Jeremy.

Speaker 3 Well, ultimately, look, the peak of Cal Raleigh in doing this as a catcher behind the plate, the craziest part about getting to potentially 60 home runs is just the wear and tear that comes with it.

Speaker 3 Because to be able to produce that type of power, on the flip side, Buster Posey showing up every day and hitting about 330 as he was such a tremendous defensive catcher in the middle of an order that didn't have quite as much protection.

Speaker 3 The peak of their powers, it's really hard to argue one way or another.

Speaker 24 But I do want to get back to something that Chris was questioning because all that needs to happen is that the Diamondbacks and the Red.

Speaker 9 Brother, you're doing this wrong. Just best FSU catcher of all time.

Speaker 3 It's not Joe Maurer. He didn't go there.

Speaker 5 He committed there, but then got drafted.

Speaker 22 I mean, he was finishing third, anyways.

Speaker 9 Let's be real.

Speaker 13 The Kimmel monologue not only did more than 6 million people in the middle of the night, it also did more than 20 million people on YouTube. So three times as many

Speaker 13 people on YouTube watched as we're watching.

Speaker 4 A couple people watched it twice, probably.

Speaker 19 But then there are also the people that watched it in groups, Chris.

Speaker 9 That's true. Some of us didn't watch it at all.
Amen.

Speaker 28 When did we start tracking the AL home run record?

Speaker 16 That's annoying, right?

Speaker 10 When it was Aaron Judge.

Speaker 9 But it's so annoying to be like, oh, Cal Raleigh's about to catch Aaron Judge for the AL home run.

Speaker 29 It's like, dude, what does that mean?

Speaker 9 What's the NL East record? I know.

Speaker 10 It doesn't matter that we're playing interleague play season round now.

Speaker 10 The AL records and the NL records are completely irrelevant.

Speaker 29 No one's like, I'm an American League Baseball fan anymore.

Speaker 16 That's not a thing.

Speaker 9 It stopped being a thing when the umpires started wearing just MLB hats.

Speaker 18 That's right.

Speaker 9 That's right. Just call me Al Hattie.
Remember Al?

Speaker 9 That's right. Angels in the Alfield.
I'm so happy.

Speaker 9 The greatest thing that Big Dumper did with this season is just rip away the facade of that whole Aaron Judge bullshit that we had to deal with a couple seasons ago.

Speaker 24 You guys were so mad that it was BS, and it was just because it was a Yankee.

Speaker 9 We all know now.

Speaker 12 The Emperor has no clothes, Dan. Wow.

Speaker 19 So in 2012, Buster Posey's OPS was 957.

Speaker 22 Right now, Cowles is 959.

Speaker 23 His OPS Plus is 172.

Speaker 4 Buster Posey's OPS Plus was 171.

Speaker 16 And I think we all know what that means.

Speaker 13 They're close to very comparable players in terms of what it is that they do.

Speaker 9 Which is wild because one of them is hitting 60 home runs.

Speaker 31 Damn, we're getting to the part where the baseball playoffs matter, right? And what I want to do is, I'm locked in now.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 36 We're right here.

Speaker 31 We're at the doorstep of the baseball playoffs. And I need to know, I need to get an update from the baseball guys to see kind of where we are so I know what to do going into the season.

Speaker 31 So going into the postseason.

Speaker 9 So right now I have written down Mariner's good, good catcher.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 23 Tigers collapsed.

Speaker 26 What else do I need to know?

Speaker 12 They still got a few days left. They may not fully collapse.

Speaker 9 Well,

Speaker 9 they've already collapsed.

Speaker 12 Does it still collapse if they still win the division?

Speaker 13 They might un-collapse, but as we speak of this, they've already collapsed.

Speaker 12 The old collapse into an un-collapse.

Speaker 9 I think you put collapse fully.

Speaker 13 You don't think that they can now win the division and therefore not have collapsed as historically as I imagine that this collapse is going to be remembered?

Speaker 8 Like, Greg collapsed at High Lie, and then when he came back, we didn't say, well, good news, Greg uncollapsed.

Speaker 9 Maybe he should have collapsed. Maybe.

Speaker 9 Dan, do you remember Terry Kennedy? A 1980s catcher. Oh, no.
Four-time all-star, played in four different World Series with three different teams. He was in FSU.

Speaker 5 Believe it or not, Giancarlo Stanton holds the record for single-season NL East home runs.

Speaker 13 Just NL East now you're doing

Speaker 9 59. I believe it.

Speaker 8 It's a lot.

Speaker 9 I remember that vividly.

Speaker 13 But you mean

Speaker 13 you're just going to do it by division? Who holds the division?

Speaker 9 Can we guess? Lead in home run. I like NL Central.
Who you got? I got Mark Maguire. Famously.
All right. You nailed it.
I got second place. It's probably either Maguire or Sosa.
All right.

Speaker 8 NL West.

Speaker 9 Damn it. Bomb.

Speaker 9 It's going to be popular.

Speaker 16 All right. Keep playing, though.

Speaker 9 AL West. AL West, we know.
Tell Raleigh. Yeah.
All right. Tell Raleigh.
We're having fun here. AL Central.

Speaker 9 AL Central. Now, this one's tricky.

Speaker 9 Frank Thomas.

Speaker 3 Central. Frank Thomas is a great guess.

Speaker 9 Jim Tomey.

Speaker 24 Paul Conerco.

Speaker 9 Jim Tomey. He is a terrible guest.

Speaker 9 That's a good guess.

Speaker 1 That's a terrible guess.

Speaker 3 Who'd Jimmy Fox play for?

Speaker 13 He played Detroit, wasn't he?

Speaker 5 Then there you go. That's him.

Speaker 17 But they may not have been in the Central then.

Speaker 13 I don't think they were in the Central. There wasn't Central back then.

Speaker 9 Who'd Hank Greenberg play for?

Speaker 9 There was not a Central back then. Fun game.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Fox played for Philadelphia, Boston, and Chicago Cubs.

Speaker 3 So we didn't get any of that right.

Speaker 9 What about Hank Greenberg? The hammer. Phillies are good.
Hebrew Hammer.

Speaker 13 It's a good nickname.

Speaker 6 He played for Detroit. There you go.

Speaker 8 We got our AL Central game.

Speaker 7 Where did he play? His whole career.

Speaker 21 What years were they?

Speaker 28 The 30s.

Speaker 17 Then there was no central then.

Speaker 9 Whatever, man.

Speaker 13 When did they start the Central? When did that start? Because there were two divisions.

Speaker 13 Deep into the 90s, I think, before

Speaker 13 they made it three divisions in each league, I think, right?

Speaker 9 Chris, can you sort by career and not individual seasons?

Speaker 9 Because there are

Speaker 9 94. Because there are players like Maglio Ordoñas that played for multiple teams inside of the AL Central.
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Speaker 1 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 13 While there's nothing official, and conversations are still ongoing.

Speaker 27 Was that a fake chef territory?

Speaker 9 Because it was. It was pretty good.
It was excellent. I feel like there's legs.

Speaker 13 I tried at the beginning and then I lost confidence in it. Wow.
It was good.

Speaker 9 It was good. You got this.
There's nothing official.

Speaker 9 And conversations are still ongoing.

Speaker 9 Stugats.

Speaker 13 It is trending towards Nick Siriani remaining the head coach of the Eagles.

Speaker 32 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 13 I want to talk about very briefly the uniforms that the Dolphins are going to be wearing on Monday night. Monday night is an apocalypse.
The Dolphins and the Jets are playing Monday night football and

Speaker 13 these uniforms are really good looking uniforms. They're just not in any way dolphin uniforms.

Speaker 9 It's horrible.

Speaker 12 I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 5 I can't believe how negative this office has been on these uniforms. I thought it was going to be a consensus.

Speaker 1 These look cool and everybody around here hates these.

Speaker 12 They may look cool, but they're not the Dolphins. Like, that's not the Dolphins' colors.
That's not their uniform.

Speaker 12 But on top of it, you know what aggravates me and maybe some other fans too is there is a consensus out there of I would guess to say a hundred percent of the fan base would like them to wear a specific uniform and they refuse to go back to it old school one and you of course and they're breaking this out like that's not the dolphins who is this team I'm gonna be watching on Monday night

Speaker 13 I cannot blame the Dolphins for wanting to wear a disguise when the world is watching for so that no one knows who they are because

Speaker 13 this 0-3 football team, are you guys in agreement when I keep saying that this is a historically bad defense or were you fooled by the second half against the Bills?

Speaker 9 I think it's too early to tell.

Speaker 13 Early in the season, how much worse would you have liked them to be than not to be able to stop any of the drives of the Colts and the Patriots?

Speaker 12 I think the part that's so surprising with this defense, I think one thing most of us would have agreed upon going into the season was they're going to be able to rush the passer.

Speaker 12 They got some guys who are going to be able to get after the quarterback, and maybe that'll be the one saving grace to have in a terrible secondary: is all right, if you put pressure on the quarterback, you know, that'll be okay.

Speaker 12 Then, not only do they not get after the quarterback, but they blitz like the most of any team in the league through the first three weeks, and they still don't get to the quarterback.

Speaker 13 Well, explain to me why, okay, you guys are surprised by a lack of pressure when I say the following, because Chubb's getting to the quarterback, but Phillips, you would understand why it is that his body is not right and he might not be the same player he was.

Speaker 13 And Christian Wilkins was kind of important to them and he was important to Seeler.

Speaker 13 Like what they had coming up the middle when they were getting pressure and on the edges, we can agree that Wilkins was a very good player for them. Wilkins is missed in a lot of ways.

Speaker 13 So you're surprised when I tell you Phillips' body is broken.

Speaker 9 Were you not, excuse me, encouraged by his performance against Buffalo, though? Because I think prior to he looked like, man, I have all the injuries.

Speaker 9 Keep in mind, Jalen Phillips is a player that almost medically retired before he transferred to miami his body has taken a lot of the university of miami not the dolphins yeah yeah and i thought he was i thought it was an encouraging performance against buffalo he's starting to get home a little bit more and that's the type of injury that i mean we've seen over over time you kind of need some time to bounce back wilkins is missed

Speaker 23 he's out there yeah i mean he was released he they could go get him if they wanted to he's recovering from injury he's available

Speaker 13 I think that this is going to be a historically bad defense. I think they're going to have trouble stopping everybody all season.

Speaker 17 Well, let them mesh.

Speaker 19 I mean, we'll see on Monday night football against the Jets, and then they have the Panthers, so he could be fooled about how good they are or not.

Speaker 19 Then we'll get a test, you know, when they take on the Chargers, the Browns, and then the Falcons.

Speaker 28 That's the test.

Speaker 12 The Charger game is going to be a good thing.

Speaker 24 We'll see.

Speaker 7 No, with the Falcons, I wonder who's going to be quarterback at that point in time, right?

Speaker 19 Then after that, we have Bills, commander, Ravens, Bills, commanders.

Speaker 22 That's a difficult stretch.

Speaker 19 By the time the Saints come to town, November 30th, mark your calendars.

Speaker 28 We're going to know who this defense is.

Speaker 31 Can you have two historically bad defenses in a span of six years? Because wasn't Dominique saying that it was criminal what they were doing like six years ago? So now you have

Speaker 3 a yes, it is possible.

Speaker 36 Now another six years later, you have another historically bad defense.

Speaker 25 That's like when they say someone's a generational talent and there's eight of those playing every

Speaker 19 generation, which makes no sense to me.

Speaker 9 I think to be a historically bad defense, you need to be the worst defense in the league, which they are not. They are 26 in the league right now.

Speaker 9 If you wanted to say the Ravens have a historically bad defense, you would presently be right.

Speaker 19 I don't think you can ever say the Ravens have a historically bad defense.

Speaker 9 Teams with a worse defense than the Miami Dolphins

Speaker 9 according to yards per game. Ravens, Giants, Cowboys, Bears, Steelers, Titans.

Speaker 17 Don't pay attention to the stats.

Speaker 15 You could just never say the Ravens have a bad defense.

Speaker 13 Give the Dolphins time. They'll catch up.

Speaker 13 Let me just go back since we were talking baseball. And again, pitch clock will be later later in the show as we continue to segregate baseball, but this is an exciting time of year for me.

Speaker 13 I really do enjoy baseball. But when you talk about what's happening with the Tigers, look at this when I give you these stats.
The Tigers have lost eight in a row, 11 of 12, and 20 of 27,

Speaker 13 while the Guardians have won 17 of 19. So that's how that happened.

Speaker 31 So Guardian's good?

Speaker 9 Do I write that down?

Speaker 13 Guardian's good. Guardian's good.
Guardian's also hot. Hot at the right time.

Speaker 9 Guardian's hot at the right time.

Speaker 5 Okay. Jim Tomey, Tomey, 52 home runs, 2002.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's the leader since 1994, since the AL Central was officially established. But you want to talk about the Guardians and this collapse by the Tigers?

Speaker 3 So on August 25th, Fangrafts had the Guardians as a 0.0 chance to win the AL Central. On September 10th, it's only the 25th.
On September 10th, they had a 0.1% chance to win the AL Central.

Speaker 3 Now they are in sole possession of first place and own the tiebreaker over the Tigers.

Speaker 9 Who are the Guardians?

Speaker 9 Also,

Speaker 19 Paul Canerico's career high was 41 in a season.

Speaker 18 That's good.

Speaker 28 Frank Thomas, 43.

Speaker 25 So it's a big difference.

Speaker 12 You can't come at me and say it's a terrible guess when he was two behind the big hurts.

Speaker 12 That's not terrible. That's actually really good.

Speaker 3 Jim Tomey, Albert Bell, Jim Tomey, Albert Bell, and then Salvador Perez.

Speaker 9 Albert Bell,

Speaker 13 every time you say Albert Bell, it brings a smile to my face, even though Albert Bell was a total menace menace as a human being who scared everybody around him.

Speaker 13 See if you guys can find on YouTube for me Albert Bell being hit by a pitch and just refusing to go to first base, saying, No, I want to hit.

Speaker 9 I don't, I don't, I don't want first base. I want all, I want all of the bases.
No, you're not allowed, you're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 13 But he also, somebody was mad at him because he was keeping the clubhouse too cold and

Speaker 13 he just destroyed the thermometer with his bat or he just

Speaker 3 that was on the wall he had three homers in the game already which is why he didn't want to go to first he was looking to hit a fourth home run that day and so when he was hit by a pitch he said nah I'm good the first thing you think about with Albert Bell is when he

Speaker 12 threw the forearm shiver at the second baseman trying to attempt to double play right

Speaker 13 he's the only player in baseball like there's been some sizable guys you know you don't want to fight Mo Vaughan if he was coming out to the mound to fight with you but he's the only guy in my career as a baseball player that I knew that everyone else was just afraid of him they were afraid that he was going to beat them up he also had a temper problem like he had a bunch of incidents including like didn't he chase some kids with his car on Halloween like he had a temper problem huh yes like like jeepers creepers what do you think those kids were dressed as pretty I'm pretty sure that he has a long litany of things on the resume that suggests that

Speaker 13 yeah temper needed to get it under control, had some issues with that, but I just don't think of baseball players as being so menacing that you're afraid of them.

Speaker 13 Even Aaron Judge, you look at Aaron Judge.

Speaker 12 Oh, he seems nice, Aaron Judge.

Speaker 13 Can you give me some information about Aaron Judge being

Speaker 13 about where it is that Aaron Judge was drafted? Because generally, players that size, their strike zone is too big for them to be hitting 50 home runs all the time. Because

Speaker 13 no matter how long their levers are, that size of a strike zone is too big of a strike zone for somebody to be as good as Aaron Judge is. Where was he drafted, Jeremy?

Speaker 3 He was drafted 32nd overall. So he was a first-round pick, but there were 31 players who went ahead of him.
Ironically, that year, number one overall, Bryce Harper, number three, Manny Machado.

Speaker 3 So heck of a draft.

Speaker 17 On Halloween in 1995, a bunch of teenagers decided to egg Albert Bell's house.

Speaker 19 So he decided, I'm going to chase them down.

Speaker 20 with my car.

Speaker 19 Bell was fined $100 for reckless operation of a vehicle.

Speaker 17 The guardian of the teenager later sued Albert Bell for $850,000, contending that Bell's car had bumped into the teenager.

Speaker 18 The lawsuit was settled in 1997.

Speaker 3 I was wrong about that draft. He was drafted in the 31st round of

Speaker 24 out of high school in 2010.

Speaker 3 Then he was drafted 32nd overall in 2013. That draft was led by Mark Appell and then Chris Bryant.

Speaker 9 You didn't need to correct yourself. That was, you were right.

Speaker 13 Billy, would you do me the favor, please, of just looking through all Albert Bell incidents? Because

Speaker 25 I think so.

Speaker 28 It's not as fun if you continue.

Speaker 7 Really?

Speaker 9 You're not going to like where this goes.

Speaker 19 In 2006, he was sentenced to 90 days in jails and five years probation after he admitted to stalking his former girlfriend.

Speaker 22 2018, he was arrested or charged with indecent exposure and driving under the influence.

Speaker 19 Charges were dismissed.

Speaker 3 Marlins took Colin Moran sixth overall the year Aaron Jerry.

Speaker 13 I want the incidents while he was playing baseball and

Speaker 9 afterwards. No, no, no.
Sounds like a nice guy, otherwise.

Speaker 7 That's not, no, I wanted

Speaker 13 from his playing career. I pretty much understood just where he was coming from at all times, and it was just rage.

Speaker 17 So under the personal problems section, because that starts with alcoholism.

Speaker 4 That's not good either.

Speaker 13 No, I'm just looking for stuff during the playing career, just stories that were told.

Speaker 13 I've told you guys before the story, like baseball clubhouses are funny, right?

Speaker 13 The Pirates had a second baseman, Jose Lee, who one time, for reasons that I didn't have any understanding for, I'm just standing there, and he throws a hunting knife across the room and embeds it in the wall.

Speaker 13 And I'm like, why would someone do that? That doesn't seem sane or reasonable in any way. And the one who was feared by all other players was only Albert Bell.

Speaker 13 There's no close second on someone that was feared by everybody long before. Like if that player played today, we would have him go get treatment because all of us would understand

Speaker 13 that what's happening there is not sane.

Speaker 13 but he could hit a baseball very hard and very far and would hit three home runs in a game and then get hit by a pitch and say I don't want to go how many throws would it take you to throw a knife at a wall and get it to stick hunting knife those are sharp you're doing it first try you're doing it first try Tony yeah I'm doing it first try

Speaker 13 you feel like you're gonna the handle's gonna just hit the wall and then just like I you gotta throw a blade you don't throw it up by the handle you throw it by the blade

Speaker 9 yeah

Speaker 36 no that can't be that's how you do it you throw it by the blade first so it has the rotation

Speaker 7 yeah but when you throw an axe, you don't hold the axe.

Speaker 9 Right, like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 36 It's different, though.

Speaker 13 I think you might be right there.

Speaker 9 Think really, yeah, sure.

Speaker 13 Think, put it on the poll at Lebatard's show. In order to embed a hunting knife in the wall, do you throw it by the blade?

Speaker 4 Well, hold on a second, though.

Speaker 29 Explain that.

Speaker 10 It's like a star.

Speaker 9 The axe is different. The axe is different.
But the axe has the handle. There's more surface area.
Okay.

Speaker 36 There's more surface area on the blade of a knife than there is an axe.

Speaker 9 Okay,

Speaker 5 where are you getting this knowledge from?

Speaker 9 I don't know.

Speaker 33 It depends the size of the knife.

Speaker 9 I know.

Speaker 10 What What if

Speaker 9 he says it with confidence? Dan, this is a

Speaker 9 hurry.

Speaker 24 That's very different.

Speaker 10 The rotations matter.

Speaker 30 What if I throw from three inches further back?

Speaker 19 Then that would be like half a rotation, and then the blade with the handle.

Speaker 31 You can fix that by throwing it faster.

Speaker 12 Well, Dan, this is very important. Do you throw the blade overhand or is it like you take it on?

Speaker 9 Who does that? Underhand? Oh, I can do that. You don't have the same juice underhand.
You got to go overhand. That's how you get quick juice.
I'll decide how much juice I have.

Speaker 9 Underhand?

Speaker 7 Yeah, underhand's weak. No, you can do underhand.

Speaker 12 You don't know about that, Dan.

Speaker 9 You know about that underhand. I'm not sure if you're not doing it.
You're doing weak side.

Speaker 26 Kind of like Gambit.

Speaker 7 That's how you get.

Speaker 1 Oh, yours is sideways. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like Gambit. You put your arm up.

Speaker 7 I don't see what you're doing.

Speaker 19 No one throws a knife like a Frisbee.

Speaker 9 That's diamond. I still throw my blades.

Speaker 12 Not like a Frisbee. Like Gambit throws a knife.

Speaker 9 That's a frisbee.

Speaker 17 What are you throwing up?

Speaker 9 Boomerang? You're not getting anywhere. I can also, I can throw it.
That's what I'm saying. Zaz knows.

Speaker 24 Like Alex Gonzalez. I've already stabbed you in the heart.

Speaker 3 Hell yeah. Gonzalez turning to.

Speaker 17 Well, if you throw it, did you stab him?

Speaker 12 I got lots of blades in my pocket.

Speaker 13 You guys are not noticing. Everyone's talking, and no one's noticing that Zaz is providing a sound effect with his underhand blade throw that kills you while you're talking.

Speaker 13 You're giving opinions, and he's going left-handed. You're not expecting it in any way.
Animal righteous. Everyone else is coming at you overhanded.
They're telegraphing what they're doing.

Speaker 13 He's doing it sneaky style.

Speaker 33 But he keeps missing us.

Speaker 9 That's the problem. Are we doing this in a competition or are we doing this like, oh, it's real life? You need to throw something in the street.
You're not going blade first.

Speaker 9 Too dangerous if you have to do something quickly like that. You'll cut your hand.

Speaker 13 Not if you're an accomplished hunting knife thrower.

Speaker 7 That's such a thing.

Speaker 9 Like Tony.

Speaker 36 Plus, what you do is on the street, you grab it, and then you toss it up, and then catch it on the blade.

Speaker 10 Wait, you're putting on a show?

Speaker 9 That part we agree with.

Speaker 10 Right? So you have to have to.

Speaker 9 You have it in your thing? What?

Speaker 9 The swoof is important.

Speaker 13 You guys are all coming in sash, though. You're telegraphing what you're doing.
You got your arms out. You got your blades out.

Speaker 12 So many blades I throw you.

Speaker 7 You do it too quick, though. I imagine you like reach in.
It's right.

Speaker 9 Your rock is too quick.

Speaker 30 And boom, you threw your keys at me.

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