Hour 2: Dan Is Thankful (feat. Jemele Hill)

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Speaker 9 This is the Dan Labatar show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 10 Haven't had her perspective around here in too long. Do not like going months without speaking to her.
You can watch new episodes of her podcast, Spolitics, live on her YouTube channel.

Speaker 10 Jamel Hill, she's also a contributing writer for The Atlantic. Any thoughts? Football Thanksgiving, Detroit Thanksgiving,

Speaker 10 as a person who has her allegiances to Detroit and the end of the Dan Campbell era here, because I don't believe we're all looking at the same team we were looking at last year. Welcome, Jamel.

Speaker 10 And what are your thoughts about Detroit playing on Thanksgiving and not totally being an afterthought and laughingstock and really being host to the country before we get to the Super Bowl, before the game the games that have the real giant entertainment value?

Speaker 7 Well, it is a welcome change. And certainly my husband is very happy being a diehard Lions fan his whole life.

Speaker 7 But, you know, one thing about this team is like it's matching. And a lot of people probably aren't aware of the tremendous momentum that's happening in Detroit, just as a city overall.

Speaker 7 I mean, Detroit just elected its first female mayor, its first black female mayor to be specific.

Speaker 7 And just a lot of great things are happening in the city.

Speaker 7 getting a new five-star hotel. I mean,

Speaker 7 everything that I'm seeing happening in the city and the neighborhoods, it's great that it's happening in conjunction with the team that has probably caused the most misery for everyone in the state is also doing well.

Speaker 7 And I've said this repeatedly for people who have, you know, just kind of a passing interest in Detroit. It's like, yeah, I know we're known for hockey town.

Speaker 7 Yes, we know the Pistons have won championships. The Red Wings certainly had a very dominant.
a run that everybody witnessed, but the Lions are the team of the state.

Speaker 7 And if they were to ever go to a Super Bowl, it would by far be the biggest story in Detroit sports history, maybe the biggest story in Michigan history, period.

Speaker 7 So to have all these wonderful things happening at once and for the Lions to actually be treated with respect on Thanksgiving, what can I say? It's just like,

Speaker 7 mama, we made it moment for the entire city.

Speaker 10 Can you tell me? Because I haven't, I have not been back to Detroit since they started what was a sports-inspired

Speaker 10 revitalization of downtown that began with the baseball team, right? It wasn't even like what you're talking about when you say Detroit feels like it's back.

Speaker 10 Detroit's been pushed around for a long time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it has.

Speaker 7 Listen, Detroit was a laughing stock, especially when we were going through the recession in sort of the early 2000s.

Speaker 7 And people naturally made note of the fact that you could at that point buy a home in Detroit for $1,000. They were listing homes in Detroit on Craigslist.
Like that's how bad it was.

Speaker 7 Detroit was in bankruptcy financially. It just wasn't a whole lot of investment

Speaker 7 happening there. And it had been a longstanding sort of problem that Detroit only being recognized nationally about our crime rate and about

Speaker 7 things that were not very positive, you know? And so like people see the movie RoboCop, the original RoboCop.

Speaker 7 I think they may have remade it or whatever, but they see RoboCop and they think that's Detroit. I mean, I don't even think RoboCop was actually filmed in Detroit, but it's based in Detroit.

Speaker 7 The story is, but that's how people came to think of Detroit as just this barren, crime-ridden hellscape that didn't deserve anything.

Speaker 7 And so it is with a lot of pride that I see Detroit being embraced now and people understanding that what's happening there is not a fluke. We have been through some stops and starts before.

Speaker 7 Listen, Detroit has a Gucci store downtown. I never thought I would see that.
All right. When I was growing up, there were no major

Speaker 7 department stores in downtown Detroit. And now there's a Gucci store and an Apple store and a Fenty store.

Speaker 7 And so while some of this also signals a gentrification that can be create and cause some uncomfortable questions, I think I'm generally more positive about seeing it because I do see that growth spreading out to other parts of the city because that's where you want to see it.

Speaker 7 You want to see the neighborhoods come up if there's a revitalization downtown. But downtown is cracking.
Detroit is the place.

Speaker 10 But did it start with sports?

Speaker 7 No, not really. I mean, I think there was a lot of investment things that were that were happening downtown.

Speaker 7 But to your point, it's like the Tigers being good, like when your baseball team is good, that is a different type of renaissance that the city will see because you have more opportunities to be in that area.

Speaker 7 You know, you're talking about 160, you know, two game schedule. You got 80 home games.

Speaker 7 So that's 80 opportunities for people to be downtown as opposed to, say, the Lions who are playing eight or nine home games and then that's it.

Speaker 7 Or even the Pistons who are playing like, you know, 40 something games. And that renaissance, that turnaround only happened in the last two years.

Speaker 7 But I think really what started all of it was just people understanding the business opportunity. Detroit has a beautiful riverfront that borders Canada.
Like we can get to Canada in 10 minutes.

Speaker 7 And so that property has always been bought up, but it started with the investment from Dan Gilbert, from Mike Illich, from a lot of really big business leaders that are in the Detroit community.

Speaker 7 And it spun into what we see now. And now that the sports teams are good, it's like it's all kind of clicking together finally at the same time.

Speaker 8 How does Detroit compare

Speaker 8 care about the Pistons right now compared to the Lions?

Speaker 7 I mean, listen, people are obsessed with the Pistons, but I mean, the Lions are kind of the number one team in town.

Speaker 7 I mean, because again, that's a town, that's a team the whole state loves, right, is the Lions.

Speaker 7 And I think because the futility has been so much longer with the Lions that them being good is always going to be the number one story.

Speaker 7 The Pistons is an incredible story, especially seeing where the Pistons were just three years years ago and to see where they are now. The city has certainly embraced Kay Cunningham hard.

Speaker 7 This whole team,

Speaker 7 you know, the franchise, it feels like, it still feels like they're a player away.

Speaker 7 But the way that they're playing now, I mean, I think they still at this point may still have the second best record in the East.

Speaker 7 Nor in the league.

Speaker 10 They're not a player away in this East.

Speaker 7 They're not a player away. No, not in this East.
You're right.

Speaker 7 You're right. Not in this East are they a player away.
But when you just start thinking about like, can they win a world championship? I think they're a player away from that.

Speaker 7 But nevertheless, like to your point, this is, it's, it's, this is the best sports feeling I've ever seen Detroit have

Speaker 7 that's so sustained, right? It's like the Pistons are good, the Lions are good.

Speaker 7 I know the, you know, the Red Wings are kind of in and out there, but to have those two teams, the two most popular, probably sports.

Speaker 7 in the state be good at the same time and tigers and all of them young and the tigers yes like the tigers being good this year Like it is,

Speaker 7 this is a level of positivity around Detroit sports I haven't seen in a really long time.

Speaker 10 What are we to do with the Shador Sanders start? No Cleveland Browns' first-time starting quarterback had won a game since 1995.

Speaker 10 17 straight starts that a first-time quarterback had made a start without winning before Shador Sanders. What did you do with that result?

Speaker 7 Okay, so one, I said last week on my YouTube show that you mentioned Spolitics Live.

Speaker 7 I was like, Shador Sanders has the opportunity to do the funniest thing in the world, but also to do something that's very common and known to Browns fans, which is to make the Browns look stupid. And

Speaker 7 I think he kind of did that in the sense of we know about how he hasn't been developed under Kevin Stefansky.

Speaker 7 And, you know, Dan, the Shadur Sanders, as you know, there's always an athlete or a couple of athletes in sports that generate a level of polarization that sometimes is baffling to understand is

Speaker 7 he is in that space of like every time i talk about him i have to think very carefully about what i'm saying because if i don't praise him enough then i'm a race trader if i praise him too much then i'm a other a bunch of other racist names as well so it's like it's this weird spot that he's in and me even saying that like yeah he got treated like a fifth round pick people were mad about that like like i was saying something that you know that some people labeled me a sellout for saying that i was like no he got treated that way like i don't think kevin stefansky and again, people hated what I said there's like, I don't think he's trying to sabotage him.

Speaker 10 Well, wait, Jamel, but what's happening here? Are you telling me that he's supposed to be such a symbol for black excellence as the son of Deion Sanders?

Speaker 10 And as they came up through a program that was a thicket of racism, what it is that they were doing that last year in Colorado, you think that he's so embraced by black people that to criticize him as a black person is something you have to be careful about?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I do. I mean, look, Shadur Sanders is the black community's nephew.
Like he, everybody has adopted him. Okay.

Speaker 7 And so you have to be really careful about what you say because just in what I consider to be just mild critiques, Dan, it's like, I have been labeled a sellout and being anti-black and I'm disappointed you.

Speaker 7 I done got all the speeches. I'm like, because I said it's not.

Speaker 7 I don't believe that there's some league-wide conspiracy to keep this kid down. If anything, he makes the NFL money.
I mean, I can't think of a fifth-round pick whose jersey sales go off like his.

Speaker 7 Like, there's a lot of reasons why the NFL would want Shadur Sanders in the league.

Speaker 7 And because there are a lot of people who have seen, listen, I get why people are willing to believe in the conspiracy theory based on what we've seen before. We saw Colin Kaepernick get blackballed.

Speaker 7 You know, the story came out about Lamar Jackson and about how other teams were trying to sabotage his negotiations. So I'm not saying NFL conspiracies don't happen and aren't true.

Speaker 7 I just didn't see it with this particular player.

Speaker 7 And whenever I bring that up, I get, well, they just don't want to see a confident black man and they hate his father and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 7 And I'm like, guys, I need y'all to get a little more emotionally uninvested in this. But there's no question because of his father and how much he is beloved, just period, by football fans.

Speaker 7 And for a lot of black people, they look at Dion, they look at the relationship that he has with his sons, and they feel like this is such a positive example of a Black fatherhood, of Black fatherhood, that they feel very, understandably, a lot of our community feels very protective over Dion and Shadur Sanders.

Speaker 7 So, yes, I do have to watch what I say, and I have to make sure I'm being thoughtful and careful because

Speaker 7 a lot of people are very, a lot of my people are very emotionally invested in his success.

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Speaker 10 You can't just say it was the Raiders?

Speaker 7 You said that. I didn't.

Speaker 10 Okay, so it can't just be the Raiders.

Speaker 7 I'll put that on you today.

Speaker 10 Okay, it's funny, though. I don't see you afraid of anything, though.

Speaker 10 Like, the part that I'm, I get, I understand, I guess I can't possibly understand, but from where I am, I can understand a little bit how you find this one volatile, but it's silly.

Speaker 18 I can't believe she said it.

Speaker 18 She said it. Had a feeling this was going on.

Speaker 2 And Jamel just said it.

Speaker 10 But Jamel is fact-based. So when she comes out of the world.

Speaker 2 I knew this was a thing. I knew that's what was happening.

Speaker 14 Now that just Josina tweets make all the sense in the world.

Speaker 16 Jamel copped to it.

Speaker 7 Don't forget what happened here today.

Speaker 10 I can't believe that Jamil.

Speaker 2 It is a conspiracy.

Speaker 10 This is the Jamil just said it.

Speaker 10 That the Kaepernick thing is so stupid that, of course, it could morph into, and they would do this to Shador, too, because they've got to find a better quarterback to do this for.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 We can't be going down with Shador.

Speaker 7 Listen, though, I want people to understand this is, I thought Shador would get his opportunity because it's Cleveland. They haven't developed a quarterback, like literally never.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Like we know what they have done at that position. And it's, it's ugly.
It's brutal, right? The fact that he was able to already have that historic marker of being the first Browns

Speaker 7 quarterback since, you know, I was in, I was leaving high school to actually like win their debut start. I mean, this is, this is who the Browns have always been.
And I think that.

Speaker 7 There has been so many racial conversations about Shadur Sanders without them being explicitly racial. And yeah, like I wouldn't say that I'm afraid to say my honest opinion of Shador Sanders.

Speaker 7 I believe I'm given that.

Speaker 7 What I am saying is that I'm more careful with my words because I realize for a lot of black people are projecting things onto this situation that are not even part of the conversation.

Speaker 7 And so I'm able to say like, oh, y'all too emotionally invested. Like I'm going to let y'all have this one.
Y'all too emotionally invested.

Speaker 1 That's why I always defended Andy Dalton.

Speaker 10 Let's move on to a pop culture subject that I wanted to ask you about. The idea that Trump would be soliciting Larry Ellison to bring back Rush Hour, the 90s comedy, Rush Hour.
It's 90s, right?

Speaker 10 Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan.

Speaker 10 Is that

Speaker 10 late 80s? That's 90s, correct?

Speaker 7 No, it's 90s. Did you say late 80s? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 11 Well, okay, forgiveness.

Speaker 10 30 years ago, not 40 years ago. What are your thoughts here on Trump trying to revitalize this franchise? Is he using the Paramount Plus? Is he using the license to try and revitalize it?

Speaker 7 It was 98, closer to 20 years ago and then 30 or 40 40. Okay.
I mean, I didn't realize that there was, it's so odd that this would be the fight that he sort of chooses.

Speaker 7 And apparently from the article that I read is that apparently he's been offering his creative thoughts on a lot of different film projects and things he wants to bring back.

Speaker 7 Like Blessboard was one he mentioned, like he wants to bring back those type of movies. And he thinks that they should do that.

Speaker 7 And to be honest, Dan, like normally this would be something that I would use to clown the president about.

Speaker 7 But honestly, I'd rather him sort of govern over film than govern over the other things he's governing on. So like, fine, be busy with that.

Speaker 7 Maybe you will make it less hell on the rest of us in every other area if you get your new rush hour.

Speaker 7 If a new rush hour, if rush hour four is what it takes to get this man off our neck in other ways, let's do it. Let's bring back an old ass Jackie Chan.

Speaker 7 Chris Tucker, let's run it back one more time to make sure that.

Speaker 10 How old is Jackie Chan? Because it's old ass Chris Tucker, too, even though she wouldn't do that.

Speaker 10 But no, Jackie Chan's got the older child.

Speaker 7 He's not as old as Jackie Chan, though. He's older.

Speaker 10 That's 71-year-old Jackie Chan. Really?

Speaker 5 71.

Speaker 7 He could pull it off, Dad. He could pull it off.
He could pull it off. Yeah, look, he came back for Karate Kid Legends, right? Wasn't he? Wasn't Jackie Chan in that?

Speaker 8 Nobody watched that movie.

Speaker 1 We were talking about. Okay.

Speaker 7 All right. Fine.
Okay. I feel like he's still got a few more stunts in him.
So bring back Rush Hour.

Speaker 10 Put on the polls with you at Lebatard show. Does Jackie Chan at 71 still have a few more stunts in him?

Speaker 8 I never seen Rush Hour.

Speaker 7 Oh, my God. Todd Cruz is 60, and he's still like hanging on the side of airplanes.
Why can't Jackie Chan do this?

Speaker 10 I think that we retired Liam Neeson last week because he's 73, and Odin Kirk is now doing action films. That's fine.
We'll allow it.

Speaker 10 I didn't feel very good the other day. It's actually stuck with me for about 10 days.
I'm not even kidding. It can be hard on myself about these things.

Speaker 10 I did not like the way me and our show talked about the Stephen A. Smith, Michelle Beadle, Kerry Champion.
And I'm going to say you, but I really don't remember Stephen A.

Speaker 10 Smith ever going after you and Kerry Champion. I do know that he gets critiqued for never having anything for Michelle Beadle and then coming after with some more intensity.

Speaker 10 Black people, I know it's a critique that he gets a lot.

Speaker 10 I know it's a critique you get a lot that whenever you're talking about ESPN things or anything that's just critical analysis, hater, bidder, whatever, it's the same thing that I get.

Speaker 10 But how did you get ensnared in that? Because from what I've ever seen publicly between you and Stephen A. Smith, he respects your journalist

Speaker 10 credentials too much to ever have anything bad to say about you.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, I got ensnared in it.

Speaker 7 And I'm not saying this to call her out, but just to give people the origin story of this, is because Carrie brought my name up when she did the video addressing the fact that Stephen A.

Speaker 7 has never responded to Michelle Beetle with the same level of harshness that he has responded to some other black folks,

Speaker 7 some of which were just offering a critique of him.

Speaker 7 Obviously, a lot of people pointed to what he had to say about Jasmine Crockett, which I also was disappointed in, like a lot of other people.

Speaker 7 And so, Carrie's, the base of her criticism was really about that, about the unevenness of she felt like his critique between what he said about Serena Williams, what he said about Michelle Obama, Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 7 People are sensing a theme. And I definitely understand what that's like.

Speaker 7 Hell, we just had a little conversation about Shador Sanders and how I realized I got to be careful how I talk about him because of how possessive and protective that a lot of people in our community feel about him.

Speaker 7 And so when you're Stephen A or me or anybody that's in the sports media spaces like the majority of athletes we talk about are going to be black.

Speaker 7 We're going to say more positive things about black athletes than we do about, than we do negative, but it's the negative ones that tend to sting a little more.

Speaker 7 And so with that said, I mean, I thought what Carrie said was

Speaker 7 a fair critique. And she brought me into it by talking about how Stephen A has come for us.
And really what, and I don't want to speak for her, even though that's one of my closest friends.

Speaker 7 But I think what she was talking about was some of the things more she experienced behind the scenes on First Take

Speaker 7 and where she felt like there was a lot of times that Stephen A was not as supportive as he said.

Speaker 7 And as her friend and being there at ESPN when she was on the show, that's how our friendship blossomed.

Speaker 7 And seeing what she went through on a daily basis, being between Skip and Stephen A, not just on on tv but behind the scenes like literally having to navigate both of their very big personalities it was tough and she

Speaker 7 was

Speaker 7 very much um there was a lot of professional experiences that she had that were not great and so i think she was more or less speaking to that now stephen a and i have gotten into it a little bit back and forth on social media he's had some opinions of Colin Kaepernick that I thought were thoughtless and a little inaccurate.

Speaker 7 And I made that publicly known. It was about addressing his opinion.
He had his thing or so to say about me. He suggested that next time I call him or that I do, I do call him if I have a critique.

Speaker 7 I did call him after we had that exchange on social media. And he's a busy man.
He didn't answer. I texted him, never heard back from him.
It's fine. I'm not.

Speaker 7 I don't expect Stephen A. doesn't owe me an answer, but since he brought up the fact that I should call him, I actually did it and he didn't respond.

Speaker 7 I think a lot of people think that I have some negative opinion of Stephen A. I don't.

Speaker 7 I think he's done remarkable,

Speaker 7 he's had a remarkable professional career.

Speaker 7 And I think him as a black man being the face of ESPN, that is really encouraging for younger black journalists who are aspiring to be in these positions of authority and ownership.

Speaker 7 And he's been able to give them an example of like what's possible. And he's opened up.
you know, a lot of doors for people.

Speaker 7 But the part that sometimes made me cringe about him is especially not only sensing the uneven critiques that we talked about from a racial standpoint but also it just felt like sometimes when he's discussing women especially black women he gets very um he puts a lot he it's a lot of cap going on in terms of how he built our careers like i've heard him refer to building my career before and I just think that was weird of him to say that.

Speaker 7 Certainly I was able to be on the show, quite frankly, which I've greatly appreciated it. But when I was on, quite frankly, I was already talking to ESPN about being at ESPN.

Speaker 7 And so he's just taken this weird ownership of my career that,

Speaker 7 you know, just makes me cringe a little bit. And he's done it with Monica McNutt and he's done it with Carrie as he did it.
And it's like, why you, why are you putting 100 on 10?

Speaker 7 It's like, okay, if we, you don't need to do that. And so I think it's, it's kind of unbecoming.
But I have no animosity for Stephen A. I don't have any beef with Stephen A.

Speaker 7 Um, but I hope that he's able to accept some of the critiques that people have of him because I think some of them are fair.

Speaker 10 Spolitics is the name of her podcast. You could catch it on her YouTube channel.
We, of course, at Metalark Media discovered Jamal Hill. She would not have had a success without Metal Hill.

Speaker 7 Would have never made it here, Dan.

Speaker 10 Thank you for being on with us and thank you for allowing us to discover you. We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 20 It sounds to me like everybody could use a hug because a hug is always the right size. Stugats.
All I have put in my body today

Speaker 21 is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of coffee.

Speaker 2 Don't let him fool you.

Speaker 1 He said in the break that he's jittery.

Speaker 9 This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.

Speaker 24 Deep fry my turkeys. It's done with the same oil over the last five years.
So it's full of seasoning. It has the perfect seasoning, perfect everything with it.

Speaker 24 And it's a 72-hour process, okay, where it goes into a brine that's homemade, then sits in that brine for about two days.

Speaker 24 And then I take him out, then I inject him, you know, with a homemade injectable marinade.

Speaker 24 And then it sits for another 24 hours, wrapped in the refrigerator. And all the

Speaker 24 marinade is getting into the joints, the juices, and it is really getting into the

Speaker 24 breast and the thigh and so forth. And then I take it out that morning on Thanksgiving and I dip it in the hot oil.
And then it's...

Speaker 24 And then it's delicious. And it's going just like that.

Speaker 24 I mean, I can cut it with a plastic butter knife. It's so tender.

Speaker 24 So I've been doing that for the last almost 20 years.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's pornographic. And I don't think that Chris Cody just realizes how terrible his judgment has to be for me not to know when that clip is going to end.

Speaker 10 And Chris Cody's last words to me so that I don't hear the ending of it are him just saying to me privately, I'm hard right now.

Speaker 5 That was uncalled for.

Speaker 10 Well, it just seems like bad judgment.

Speaker 2 Seemed pretty called for.

Speaker 10 And also understandable. And I think after having heard that, all of our mouths are watering.

Speaker 10 And I do want to say, at a time of great gratitude, because Thanksgiving is that for me every year, my parents, their favorite holiday was 120 people over at the house for Thanksgiving because it's specifically such a time of gratitude.

Speaker 10 I want to tell all of you who work with us here at Meadowlark over the last five years of great difficulties and great success because we're on the other side of it. Numbers are great.

Speaker 10 We are growing in a way that is hard to believe, honestly, in the modern streaming media people believe in this thing. So I wanted to thank the listeners for supporting us the way they do.

Speaker 10 Oh, you want to do this centrally? You want to give me some central music for my gratitude?

Speaker 1 I just like this line, and I'll dip it.

Speaker 18 Glad you broke that up. Okay.

Speaker 10 Thank you, Chris. Good timing by you.
You're really killing it today in a number of different ways. You've mailed it in just like

Speaker 10 Jessica.

Speaker 2 It's been a bad day for you.

Speaker 10 But I did want to

Speaker 10 thank

Speaker 10 both the audience and you guys at this time of year because the workload around here has been crazy and there's been a lot of change and the show's in a good place. It's in a wildly successful place.

Speaker 10 And so I'm really happy that we've endured the last five years together to get to this point. And I'm grateful for it.
And I bring all of this up as I bring up my father because my father tricked me.

Speaker 10 I'm not even going to say trick me, just for an 82-year-old man, he's still sharp, funny. And the other day I accused him of ignoring my texts.
And he looks at me.

Speaker 10 Because I'm like, dad, what are you doing? Like, you're in retirement. You're not doing anything.
He's like, I'm not ignoring them i'm just not answering them

Speaker 10 that's a bar i i get them but he let the i'm not ignoring them stay and i'm like like i didn't understand what he was saying like he's not replying to me and he's like no i've seen them i'm just not answering you yeah i had this very same conversation with my dad She was on the other foot, though.

Speaker 10 Right. You were mean to your father.

Speaker 2 A little bit.

Speaker 18 I mean, but, you know, he means well.

Speaker 2 I took him to Highlight on Friday.

Speaker 10 Well, I wanted to say to you guys in an area of gratitude as it relates to to the Cyclones, I'm proud of the way that you guys have owned that team, keeping something alive in South Florida that is meaningful, that isn't in a lot of other places in the country.

Speaker 10 The Cyclones being in first place and you guys caring about ownership of that team. You've shown great pride in owning that team.

Speaker 18 We do, and we're very proud of this team. We got two more weeks until the...

Speaker 18 the playoffs and hopefully this regular season is predictive to how that goes for us. But I want to talk to you about spending time with my dad at the Fronton.

Speaker 18 We met at the brand new prefab construction outback that was built in about two days right across the street and my dad had one of the more psychotic orders ever and he left me with this order he got up to go to the bathroom has have you ever been with someone that did this he asked for the eight ounce filet okay cool hell yeah i had to assume what the temperature was but i did a good job with that but he was like son this is very important i want two sides i want a sweet potato gotcha

Speaker 18 and then I want a baked potato.

Speaker 2 I want the baked potato, no salt.

Speaker 18 And again, all the fixins, fixins, all of them on the sides.

Speaker 25 Fixins.

Speaker 1 He went, sweet potato. No salt is crazy.

Speaker 18 He went, sweet potato, baked potato as a sides. I'd never seen that before.

Speaker 5 I'm not.

Speaker 18 Before I decide whether or not this is weird, because it felt weird.

Speaker 14 And like the waiter looked at me like strangely.

Speaker 18 And I had to make this order for him. I'm like,

Speaker 18 that's weird. Have you ever seen anybody do that?

Speaker 10 I have not, but

Speaker 10 double carbs is aggressive and no vegetable is aggressive. But Zazzlo, do you think Zazlo's way of eating Thanksgiving is weird?

Speaker 10 Because Zaz, I think, thinks it's weird, and I'm not sure how weird it is. Zaz is very compartment about how he eats his Thanksgiving food.
Nothing is to mix with anything else

Speaker 10 except for the gravy. Everything else stays apart, and he eats them in little compartments.

Speaker 8 Well, the gravy has to mix with something. Otherwise, it's soup.

Speaker 12 I'm not having gravy.

Speaker 1 I'll admit something I've done. I've done, I think at Outback specifically, I don't know if we named names before.
I've done baked potato. Love baked potato with my steak.

Speaker 1 But then I'm also going mac and cheese.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So those are two carbs.

Speaker 5 That's a playoff game.

Speaker 18 That's a great job.

Speaker 14 That is indeed the outback that was built in two days.

Speaker 2 It was astonishing.

Speaker 8 But for Thanksgiving,

Speaker 8 I don't mix any of the foods. I don't put them on top of each other.

Speaker 2 I don't have 17 plates around.

Speaker 20 You don't like a spoon with a little potato and a little corn.

Speaker 8 And I don't dip like in both.

Speaker 8 I don't do like, here's some stuffing. Oh.

Speaker 2 And not living on the stew. You are a pork.

Speaker 5 You don't do cranberry?

Speaker 2 Oh, I don't eat cranberry. What? I don't eat cranberry.

Speaker 18 All right, so I'm a late convert. I used to avoid this.
Like, why would I want this fruit paste?

Speaker 2 I got to tell you, it does a little sweet, a little sweetness at the top. I've never even had it before, but I know I don't like it.

Speaker 10 You can't do that.

Speaker 2 You do this for dodgeball.

Speaker 10 You're closed-minded this way.

Speaker 18 I used to be the same way. I used to be so...

Speaker 2 What is this? I don't know.

Speaker 14 It's like a latinous.

Speaker 18 You open up the can and it just like plops right out.

Speaker 22 No, I don't need that.

Speaker 18 Like a used condom.

Speaker 2 I hate condoms. I know what I like.

Speaker 8 I know what I like, and I don't like that.

Speaker 4 How many plates do you have during Thanksgiving? I need to know, because you're sitting there basically with eight different plates around you.

Speaker 8 No, I got one big plate.

Speaker 2 Nah, you you don't have one big plate.

Speaker 1 You just have corn, like a bite with just corn?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't mix.

Speaker 18 That's right. Use condom.
Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 Don't do that.

Speaker 10 Okay, you've got five sounds there I want to hear, and one of them was not me looking into the 49ers' suites and seeing that Fred Warner and Joey Bose are hurt, but they're still

Speaker 10 eight and four.

Speaker 10 Sorry, yes. Joey Bosa is a bill now.
My fault.

Speaker 25 You called him Billy Bose?

Speaker 20 Did I call him Billy Bosa? No, I called him Joey Bosator.

Speaker 5 All right, cool.

Speaker 18 I thought I heard Billy Bosa, which actually makes sense and a good way to distinguish who is who.

Speaker 2 You know what? I'm going to he is from.

Speaker 10 Thank you, guys. I've done this.
I called Brandon Cooks, Brandon Cook. The old guy things that happen to me are that I take the whole Bosa family.
Their father was a bust with their dolphins.

Speaker 10 Two brothers are in the NFL sacking people. I didn't even get this week to a great moment from last week, which was J.J.
Watt watching his brother break his sack record and saying with a strip sack.

Speaker 10 He's like, well, I guess if you're going to break my record, that's the way to do it. Strip sack, touchdown, TJ Watt.
Like J.J.

Speaker 10 Watt calling that, two brothers being able to be at the height of that sport, and TJ Watts somehow being better at sacks than J.J. Watt.

Speaker 18 The two brothers are the best we've ever seen at strip-sacking the quarterback and taking it to the house.

Speaker 18 It's crazy.

Speaker 4 And they weren't even like highly touted prospects.

Speaker 18 This family just birthed the two greatest to ever do that.

Speaker 10 Their father was bust with the dolphins. The two of them, I confused them.

Speaker 10 The Bosas are great, and the Watts are even better. So,

Speaker 10 how many different sounds of mine do you have back there to make fun of me so that we could just spill all of this for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 Remember when you said Danny Amendola or whatever?

Speaker 10 Damian Amendola, the famous Damien, local legend, Damian Amendola. Damian Amendola.

Speaker 2 D.A.

Speaker 10 Damian Amendola. Mike Inglis, a South Florida legend?

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 10 Greg Cody, a South Florida legend? Yes.

Speaker 10 That didn't even hurt you to say. Dave Van Horn, a South Florida legend?

Speaker 2 No. He's a Hall of Fame.

Speaker 8 Montreal legend.

Speaker 2 Whoa.

Speaker 5 Montreal. Hello.

Speaker 10 Dave Van Horn is not a legend?

Speaker 8 He's Montreal legend.

Speaker 10 Steve White.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 8 He owes me money.

Speaker 10 He owes you money? You too?

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 10 How much money does he owe you?

Speaker 8 I mean, enough that I went to the bank with a check to cash it, and they told me there's no money in the account.

Speaker 5 Hello.

Speaker 5 Embarrassing.

Speaker 18 Suck a move.

Speaker 10 Radio in the 90s, baby.

Speaker 18 So yeah, mid-2000s.

Speaker 8 Boss writes you a personal check. So did we.
No money in the count.

Speaker 10 That was my favorite sound of the week right there. Mike being totally reasonable.
This is about somebody else.

Speaker 18 Level-headed.

Speaker 10 Listen, just so that you have the context for this, this is Mike's shrill and how much worse it's going to get over the last month.

Speaker 10 This right here is Mike very reasonably saying of Notre Dame's record: well, they were just starting. There was a new coordinator.

Speaker 2 They had a new coordinator.

Speaker 5 So did did we

Speaker 10 just wildly

Speaker 10 wildly defensive

Speaker 18 so did we i've been very level-headed today so did we i have not caped up for miami again i just focused with chuckle on the broadcast so did we i did not once today i made it my mission i am not going to lobby for miami as it pertains to the cfp rankings have you heard a single complaint about the obvious no you have not so did we i will not do that on this show because i had a new bold strategy dan I was going to let Jeremy talk, and the results are incredible.

Speaker 14 I think I've won the audience over by just him speaking.

Speaker 10 Jeremy disagrees with just about everything you've said and has

Speaker 18 eaten it for two. But I found the one guy that is somehow more unlikable delivering college football takes than I am on.

Speaker 2 So did we!

Speaker 1 I wonder how that happened.

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I was really likable.

Speaker 1 Until

Speaker 18 this place.

Speaker 1 Until your brother showed up.

Speaker 2 George Harrison. I like you.

Speaker 1 How much did you resent how the audience took took to him?

Speaker 21 We like how they took to him, how you took to him. Yeah.

Speaker 14 You guys were so nice.

Speaker 18 I saw so many comments.

Speaker 1 Jeremy's crushing it today, and Jeremy's in the back just like, this is bullshit.

Speaker 5 It took me seven months to get approval from that audience.

Speaker 10 Do you know how good a show has to be in order for what I remember from that not being any of that, right? Because that was charming.

Speaker 10 You've got George Harrison being vastly more likable in costume than his brother is. Like, just net, well, but this is, has this been a lifelong affliction?

Speaker 10 Because while you're someone who's, I imagine, popular with all of your friends, I imagine he's probably been more popular.

Speaker 12 He is funnier,

Speaker 11 cooler, cooler, better looking. More normal.
He was like my brother.

Speaker 10 My brother was always those things. Everybody likes him.

Speaker 18 What does more normal mean?

Speaker 1 I don't know about that one.

Speaker 10 But in the middle of that, we really have let Greg Cody skate on this. Like his complete torpedoing.

Speaker 5 Torpedoing.

Speaker 1 I talked to him at dinner about it last night with my family. Is this like kicking my wife to buy in on it?

Speaker 18 I'm trying to get inside his head a little bit.

Speaker 21 He talked to

Speaker 18 George, thinking that it was actually Jeremy Teshe when it was Jeremy's brother Jason.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, what happened there was my dad didn't know he was the only one being fooled. So he kind of like thought you guys were all being fooled too.

Speaker 1 So he kind of just like, I'm going to lay out.

Speaker 10 I disagree.

Speaker 10 I believe the psychoanalysis I would do of your father is he's so self-involved that he doesn't care enough to notice whether it's Jeremy or someone else talking because it's just another voice getting in the way of when he has to talk.

Speaker 10 And so, when Jeremy also popped up, he wasn't able to register everything that was happening there. And all we would do was bullying an old man.

Speaker 18 Part of it was, you know, I've had some of these conversations lately. I think it was an older guy, like, you think I have dementia, don't you? I don't.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I don't.

Speaker 2 I know everything. Yeah.
No, I know what happened there.

Speaker 18 I'm not impressed because I'm not whipped with it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, quick as a whip. You can't fool me.

Speaker 1 So annoying.

Speaker 10 Zaslow, when I talked about it beforehand with Zaslow, Zaslow, because I was worried about it. And Zaslow, Zaslow says to me, but it'll also be funny if he has no reaction.

Speaker 10 But him having no reaction is

Speaker 10 the worst of all possible funny worst

Speaker 10 could have been there.

Speaker 2 I watch the social video we put out now and I get angry because I'm just like, that's the payoff.

Speaker 1 Look at this buildup that we had.

Speaker 16 It would have been incredible.

Speaker 18 I'm not asking, be Simon Cowell when someone, a magician, does a trick on stage. But, you know, give me something.

Speaker 10 Here's the thing, though, that I've said to a number of people recently who've been asking me for show secrets behind the show.

Speaker 10 The people who get the show the way that they love the show the best that I was trying to articulate gratitude for before Chris Cody sabotaged me earlier.

Speaker 10 Those people look at Greg Cody and say to me, Marvel in the street, they're like, He still doesn't really know you guys are doing show around him.

Speaker 1 Most genuine character we have.

Speaker 10 Like, he's still, so you have to eat some of the places where he betrays you because he forgets he's doing the show. He's just starring in his own play all the time.

Speaker 10 Like, it's one of the weirdest characters.

Speaker 8 The play where he's always the star.

Speaker 10 It's one of the weirdest characters in the history of sports in this market. And it's why Zazzle has to eat it and say Greg Cody's a legend, a South Florida legend, unlike Chuckle.

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