Hour 2: The Pitch Clock Returns

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Speaker 3 I am so disappointed that there has been a lack of evolution in America and in 2025 and with our show that makes it this many years after Jackie Robinson that Jeremy and Pitch Clock are segregated.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 14 Baseball lives over there.

Speaker 3 Baseball lives in a segment that Jeremy wants to do with others, not with us, because nobody around here wants to talk about baseball, wants to be excited about opening day.

Speaker 3 I've got a room full of people who don't care about baseball. Billy cares about it, but the Marlins have broken his soul.

Speaker 15 I mean, I'll be there.

Speaker 16 I'll be there supporting the team, but, you know, I'm biased, of course.

Speaker 7 I'll be there taking you. You want to do pitch clock next week?

Speaker 8 Well, I mean...

Speaker 8 Segregated.

Speaker 16 Here's the problem with pitch clock, because you're saying no one wants to talk about baseball.

Speaker 17 Is it possible no one wants to talk to Jeremy?

Speaker 3 Segregated. I think we should do...

Speaker 10 All right, I'm going to head out.

Speaker 8 I think we should just... No, you're not going going to head out.

Speaker 18 We're going to be here.

Speaker 3 You're going to do pitch clock in 15 minutes.

Speaker 19 Well, that's over in Studio B.

Speaker 9 I can get ready.

Speaker 8 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, look, I don't think it's very friendly what they did there. I believe, though, that pitch clock.

Speaker 9 When has the show ever been friendly to me?

Speaker 10 It's never been segregated.

Speaker 3 It's never been.

Speaker 20 Well, I got sent to the penalty box a lot, man. There was a time when I couldn't say anything.
I was like, okay, go to the penalty box. It felt a little,

Speaker 20 you know.

Speaker 8 The implications. Yeah,

Speaker 3 the implications.

Speaker 21 We've got a penalty, five minutes. Major asshole.

Speaker 15 Jeremy, right? Jeremy.

Speaker 8 Jess.

Speaker 8 Get out of me. Wow.

Speaker 3 Jeremy's predefined.

Speaker 8 I mean, that's true.

Speaker 8 Two Americans.

Speaker 3 We all know that's true. Just because Amin was flat.
That's it.

Speaker 9 Yeah, born on third base.

Speaker 3 That's the only reason I did it.

Speaker 3 This Kane Velasquez story, if you guys have not been reading it, Kane Velasquez, a very menacing man, UFC heavyweight champion.

Speaker 3 And I'd like to get the details right on this because

Speaker 3 a lot of parents in the audience, okay, because I don't know what it is to summon this particular rage.

Speaker 3 I do not have kids, so I cannot find in me anything that would make me react the way that Cain Velasquez did, where my rage consumes me in such a fashion that I stop thinking about consequences at all.

Speaker 3 Cain Velasquez was so infuriated that his son had been molested by an adult that he tried to start shooting him in the street while chasing him.

Speaker 3 And I cannot imagine a lot of things scarier than an enraged Cain Velasquez who's not thinking about consequences.

Speaker 3 trying to shoot me and accidentally shooting others. And now he goes to prison for five years, at least.

Speaker 3 And I'm guessing a lot of parents in the audience might understand the idea of getting so beside yourself, outside yourself with rage, that you decide to try to kill somebody and you stop thinking about what that means because your love and protection is such that

Speaker 3 that is the worst thing that you can do to somebody. The worst thing an adult can do to somebody is take advantage of someone vulnerable.

Speaker 3 To be the protector of that person and to feel like responsible for allowing that to happen in any way, I think anyone listening to this can understand how a rage would consume you that would make you stop caring about consequences.

Speaker 13 Well, clearly, Cain had to go to prison because he had an innocent bystander.

Speaker 15 But as a parent, for the person who did that heinous act, that right there is justifiable homicide.

Speaker 23 And I don't think any jury in the world, if

Speaker 8 the person who committed the heinous act, if I had actually killed that person,

Speaker 14 would convict me.

Speaker 3 I don't think that's, is that legally right? I don't think that's legally right.

Speaker 15 I don't think so at all.

Speaker 16 I'm pretty sure you would still, like, justification be damned. I think you would still get convicted.

Speaker 25 I think it would be files under crime of passion.

Speaker 19 No, but it would be crime.

Speaker 3 I don't think there would be a jury that would convict you because you can't, that's not the way that you can react to things. And Cain Velasquez is deeply sorry.

Speaker 3 I'm, I'm, the part of this that I'm more interested in is how rage works.

Speaker 10 Blindly.

Speaker 3 Well, it, it's, yes, blindly.

Speaker 25 But in this case, Dan, to assist you here, in this case, it was not only blindly blindly where it just happened at a, you know, a happenstance or like a matter of a second.

Speaker 25 This was prolonged blindness of, I'm going to chase this guy in his car for 11 miles while I shoot several shots out of a.40 caliber handgun into the car that also has his mom and his stepfather and the stepfather eventually getting struck with non-life-threatening shots.

Speaker 25 But that's where the attempted murder comes in. That's where all of these firearm charges and whatnot comes in.

Speaker 25 But the issue is, and how to tie everything together, is the man who was accused of molesting his son, the parents who were in the car owned a daycare that the son went to.

Speaker 25 And that's kind of the connection point where they were all in the car. He went out there and tried to, again, avenge his son for what had happened.
And the prolonged nature of 11 miles, right?

Speaker 25 And we're talking about, I believe, is in California, that's... probably through traffic.
That's a very long stretch of road.

Speaker 3 It's a long stretch to not consider consequences. Exactly.

Speaker 8 Like it is.

Speaker 26 It's premeditated.

Speaker 3 Well, it's not just premeditated. It's it's a weird thing to say about rage, right? Because I would say that rage is not premeditated, that by definition,

Speaker 3 what rage is, is something that cannot be controlled. I'm just trying to think of an example that I could come up with for me as someone who does not have a child

Speaker 3 that would summon

Speaker 3 such an anger point on data that I would not consider that the moment that I try to kill this person, I am now going to lose lose my freedom and things in prison would not, they'll go better for Cain Velasquez than they will for me.

Speaker 10 Much better.

Speaker 3 But that I would not consider the consequences of that. I don't know, if I ask the audience for a hypothetical, have you ever been that enraged?

Speaker 3 Have you ever been so enraged that the consequences are just intergalactically stupid on what it is that you're doing? Because I think people listening to this would understand what,

Speaker 3 would understand so much what Cain Velasquez did that they might make up the law the way Roy just did and say there isn't a justice

Speaker 3 that would convict somebody for that. But my guess is, let me ask you guys this.

Speaker 3 If I put you in the jury box, if I put all of you in the jury box and say, hey, you got to come back with a verdict, where are we going with that?

Speaker 25 It's really hard, especially if you get the jury pool of parents to come back and be like, yeah, he was in the wrong there.

Speaker 9 By the law, yes, in the wrong.

Speaker 25 But there's got to be some sort of nuance to exactly what's going on. Where the matter of, again, I don't know the legalities of what happened on the other side, right?

Speaker 25 With the guy who was actually molesting his son. That's a separate trial.

Speaker 15 Right, correct.

Speaker 16 I'm saying that's upcoming.

Speaker 21 Right.

Speaker 25 So I don't know what the situation is with that as far as how long he's going to go to prison for.

Speaker 25 But if the guy whose son got molested and then acted in that way gets more prison time than the guy that molested the guy's son,

Speaker 25 there's some issues there.

Speaker 20 The reality is

Speaker 20 a good lawyer is not going to let jurors with that bias even be on the thing, right?

Speaker 20 I'm not talking about

Speaker 8 that.

Speaker 3 A good lawyer will not have parents on that jury.

Speaker 20 You're going to look for all single people because you want someone who can be objective because any parent is going to say, yeah, if I caught someone who had diddled my kids, I'm going to take action.

Speaker 20 And any parent who hears about a parent doing that is going to be like, yeah, I would have done the same thing. And so it's hard to separate.

Speaker 20 It's hard to separate in that situation your feelings and the knowledge of what's right and wrong as a parent with what is legal under the

Speaker 20 letter of the law. The letter of the law says it's not about vigilante justice and all that stuff.

Speaker 20 But I think most parents would be like, yeah, man, like, I don't know any parents who are going to be like, Cain Velasquez, how dare you? Like, everyone's like, yeah.

Speaker 25 I think to a man, like to a person, there's not one parent that's going to be like, meh.

Speaker 3 But the consequences of that, man, the consequences.

Speaker 20 And to be fair, also, Dan, I think Cain Velasquez is, obviously, he's fighting for his freedom and all that. But if right before he did it, someone said, wait, Cain, you might go to prison.

Speaker 20 I'll do it. In order to make things right as much as this act can make things right?

Speaker 3 Well, this really didn't make anything right.

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, like, this, this,

Speaker 3 like, think about the consequences of that rage, the thought process of I'll get justice here. And look at what justice becomes.
You don't. It becomes

Speaker 3 you in prison for five years, harming someone else, and there is no justice here.

Speaker 3 What is the justice?

Speaker 20 A child regrets it.

Speaker 16 I mean, but justice also isn't him murdering someone. No, it's not.
And then going to jail for the rest of his life. That wouldn't have been justice.

Speaker 20 He's not. But my question is, do you think he regrets it? Do you think, man, I wish I had taken a beat there.
I don't think he regrets it. I think he thinks to himself, yeah, I would do that.

Speaker 3 Oh, but there is, see,

Speaker 3 this is the insidious nature of what we're talking about, which is the worst thing a human being can do.

Speaker 8 Like,

Speaker 3 there is no justice on on it. Like, that child is ruined.

Speaker 3 And sending a pedophile, correctly convicting through the legal system, a pedophile who will then go to prison and be ravaged by the inmates who will partake in justice.

Speaker 3 That's the only justice that will be here.

Speaker 3 It's not a solving of anything. And

Speaker 3 a child is ruined.

Speaker 3 And has now lost his father.

Speaker 20 We hope that the child is not ruined. We hope that the child can recover and through therapy and

Speaker 20 being surrounded by the right people can live a fulfilling life.

Speaker 20 But again, I don't think that any, I don't think, I just don't believe that he's sitting there in court being like, oh man, what did I do? I don't think that. I think he's like, yeah, I...

Speaker 20 And I do it again.

Speaker 25 The judge was incredibly lenient, too. He got time served the five years, but also time served on the back end because he was incarcerated for a majority of the last couple of years.

Speaker 25 But the judge even said it, like, this is a guy who did something that I think every parent would do. So the judge was very lenient.

Speaker 3 Well, wait a minute. Do you guys, but when, if you think if I was talking to Cain Velasquez right now, given the consequences, that he'd do it again?

Speaker 20 Yeah. I don't think he did it because he thought he was going to get away with it.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's not, oh, but it's not to get away with it. It's not, you didn't accomplish what it is that you wanted to accomplish, which is killing another man.

Speaker 3 Like, you went, you ended up in jail for, in prison for five years.

Speaker 3 Like, if I ask him, given the consequence, like, maybe the answer is yes, if you do indeed kill him although i can't believe we're having that conversation um but i'm not even asking you that i think he does regret it like it's a it's i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say it's understandable not merely understandable and reasonable but can it be those it can be those things and stupid like can it not Can it not be all of those things, even while you understand it?

Speaker 3 Absolutely.

Speaker 9 And here's his quote.

Speaker 25 What I did was not correct. Velasca says, I understand that.
I paid. I'll pay whatever as far as I have to do with, I'll pay it all back.

Speaker 25 I don't think I can pay it back, but I can always learn from my mistakes and help others. It's just information that you never know anybody.
Trust your kids. Have that open communication with them.

Speaker 25 But the way I handled things was not the way to do it. We cannot pull the law into our own hands.

Speaker 20 Visual Anti-Justice.

Speaker 3 Thank you, Amin, for putting a bow on that. Do you guys want to go do a show from F1 Spectacle?

Speaker 3 in a couple of months here in Miami because we've been offered the ability to go do, they're allowing a few people in video and podcast wise, and we've been given the ability to do that but it seems like a live show in a very loud place would be hard for a place that can struggle with audio.

Speaker 20 But Billy can then have some time to think.

Speaker 8 Finally.

Speaker 16 Yes, I could.

Speaker 16 They're going to let all of us? I mean, we have a very big footprint.

Speaker 16 There's about like 80 of us that travel when we go anywhere.

Speaker 20 It's going to be more than that if we're traveling doing that.

Speaker 3 Well, so do we want to do it?

Speaker 16 If we say open bar, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 15 Sounds kind of fun.

Speaker 3 Is it something that you guys think that we would do well from an an incredible?

Speaker 8 I'm sure the audience will love it. No, we will not do that well, but we'd go to a cool place.

Speaker 20 Well, I'll tell you exactly what it's like. You guys would be talking, and in the background, it goes,

Speaker 9 I mean, that's no different than the air conditioner here.

Speaker 16 Is the race going on, or are we just going to be at the event?

Speaker 3 It's a lot different than the air conditioner here.

Speaker 20 Or the plane that we use,

Speaker 20 automatically to fly.

Speaker 3 He said that as if he would.

Speaker 20 He said it like the stat of the day.

Speaker 3 Go be segregated. I want you to leave right now.
Go do pitch clock. Wow.

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Speaker 9 This has been a really awesome tease for the pitch clock this hour.

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Speaker 3 What are we doing with the bet in the post-game? And before we get to the bet in the post-game, I want to ask this question.

Speaker 3 And please forgive my ignorance on this because there may be an answer to this that's emotional, sentimental about his father that I don't know. When did it become Jimmy Butler III?

Speaker 3 Like, with, like, I didn't know,

Speaker 3 I didn't, but I, I didn't know when seeing it in print and whatnot. I did not know.
We've made him RG3.

Speaker 3 I did not know that this was JB3. This is something, this has not been something in print that I have seen.
This is a recent thing. It has not been the entirety of his career.

Speaker 3 And I'm asking, when did that happen?

Speaker 16 When he went over to Golden State, he, I think, informed them he wanted it to say Butler III on it because his first game that he was on, it just said Butler, and then they added the third, and it was very off-center.

Speaker 16 So I think that like day of game one, he informed them he wanted that because the jersey didn't seem ready for the first game, and then by the next game, it was already good to go.

Speaker 3 So it's just he wanted to change his name, and he just

Speaker 16 his name is not changing it. He just wants to go by that.

Speaker 3 Right, but he hadn't before, and I'm just asking. RG3 came into league and was immediately RG3.

Speaker 3 We don't have a lot of threes that we put a number on their name, and I just, that's not, I haven't seen it a lot before.

Speaker 10 Has it happened a lot before?

Speaker 20 I've seen senior being added. Yes,

Speaker 20 Marcus Morris Sr.

Speaker 20 Seen a lot of seniors get added, but as far as the third, no, but then also, I want to say it was around the anniversary of the passing of his father when he first got to Golden State. So

Speaker 20 it was clearly all built into emotions about the memory of his father.

Speaker 3 You mentioned Marcus Morris. Did you see what happened, what he said on a pod the other day

Speaker 3 about talking to his brother Mark Keefe while the Anthony Davis-Luca trade was happening and his brother going to the Lakers and it seemed in what it is that Marcus was saying that LeBron knew about the Anthony Davis trade.

Speaker 3 He would, it was something that felt incriminating from Marcus Morris.

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Speaker 22 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 34 It sounds to me like everybody could use a hug because a hug is always the right size. Stugats.
All I have put in my body today

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Speaker 15 Don't let him fool you.

Speaker 16 He said in the break that he's jittery.

Speaker 11 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 9 Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the Pitch, a two-part baseball segment.
Combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert.

Speaker 21 This is the pitch clock.

Speaker 9 Happy baseball season.

Speaker 10 Hi, everybody.

Speaker 10 I'm Harry Carey. Baseball's back.
Harry Carey. Oh, come on.

Speaker 9 This time at the start of the major league season. We're not here in July.
We're here in March, ready for opening day. Renewed season two.
Yeah, season two of the pitch clock.

Speaker 10 How about us? We did something and it's back.

Speaker 9 I'm here. I'm Jeremy.
He's Chris Cody.

Speaker 9 Adnan Vurke will be with us soon to actually preview this baseball season. But for those of you who remember, Taylor Vipolis is our trivia master here.

Speaker 9 Taylor has a game for us that we're going to get started right now.

Speaker 29 So I have five categories from the 2005 MLB League Leaders. I have the top five answers.
So you'll go at the same time writing answers down.

Speaker 29 If the person you guess is number one on the list, it's five points. Gotcha.
And then you go down.

Speaker 9 I like this so much.

Speaker 1 Ooh, this is exciting.

Speaker 9 I'm going to be bad at this. I'm stoked.

Speaker 29 The first category, top five hits leaders from the 2005 season.

Speaker 29 Which is tough.

Speaker 21 Which season?

Speaker 9 I only have two names written so far, and I really feel good about one of them. I'm trying to remember, just was this guy around in this season?

Speaker 9 Oh. Hold on.

Speaker 9 I feel good about one of these. All right, I'm ready.
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 35 Derek Jeter.

Speaker 26 Derek Jeter?

Speaker 18 I have that as well.

Speaker 29 Derek Jeter, that's three points. He was third.
So three points each.

Speaker 9 Okay, next I have Carl Crawford.

Speaker 30 Zero points.

Speaker 8 Craig Biggio?

Speaker 31 Zero points. I have that.

Speaker 9 This one, I'm almost sure, isn't there. Kenny Lofton.
Zero points. Juan Pierre.

Speaker 10 Zero points.

Speaker 8 Wow, I had Juan Pierre.

Speaker 9 I assumed Juan Pierre would be at the top there.

Speaker 9 So I have three other names here that he didn't say. Okay.
I have Ichiro.

Speaker 10 Four points. Ichiro.
He was second on the first one. That was just like the first name.
That was such an obvious one.

Speaker 9 I can't believe I didn't think of of Ichiro. I had Pujos.
I was just a good hitter from that era.

Speaker 29 Pujos was not a luck. And then A-Rod.
That was just... A-Rod.

Speaker 9 Miguel Cabrera is on this list, right?

Speaker 29 Miguel Cabrera is not on this list.

Speaker 1 So the hit leader from that season, Michael Young from the Rangers.

Speaker 10 Oh, see?

Speaker 29 Ichiro was two. Jeter was three.
Miguel Tejada was four.

Speaker 8 And then Derek Lee was five.

Speaker 10 Oh, Derek Lee with the Cubs.

Speaker 31 I think we just traded him there. Way.

Speaker 30 Second category we'll go to.

Speaker 29 The home runs leader from the 2005 season. Oh, boy.

Speaker 18 This guy's still playing.

Speaker 9 This is the same issue I'm having, Chris.

Speaker 29 Was this guy around?

Speaker 9 I just thought of a random guy that I haven't thought about in years.

Speaker 31 That's why we do it.

Speaker 9 I have one. I have one just.
Like that. That just triggered something in my head that I'm hoping works out for me.

Speaker 9 Alright, I got five names. I don't know how I feel about these.
Yeah. I do too.
I guess I'll just stick with the five that I got, but

Speaker 10 I don't feel good about it.

Speaker 1 Chris, yo, reveal first this round.

Speaker 8 Pujos.

Speaker 30 Pujos, not on the list.

Speaker 10 What?

Speaker 29 Okay, I also had Pujos. I can't believe I didn't put this other guy on.

Speaker 9 This guy could have been retired by now, but Jim Tome.

Speaker 29 Really? Jim Tome, not on the list.

Speaker 10 I had Jim Tome also. Wow.
Wow.

Speaker 9 Barry Bonds.

Speaker 30 With Barry Bonds on the list?

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 30 Barry Bonds was not on the list.

Speaker 10 Yeah, she retired at that point.

Speaker 9 I think both of us is last.

Speaker 9 Aramis Ramirez.

Speaker 35 Aramis Ramirez, not on the list.

Speaker 10 Aramis Ramirez. I saw Cubs, and I'm like, Derek Lee wasn't that many home runs.

Speaker 9 I'm like, who could have had a lot of home runs on that team?

Speaker 10 Carlos Quentin Carlos Quinton not on the list Carlos Quentin

Speaker 9 my three that I have remaining because I also had Pujos and Jim Tomey man we are exposing ourselves quickly yeah it's been 20 years leave us alone a rod yeah that one I should four points yeah all right number two on the list I can't believe Miguel Cabrera Miguel Cabrera not on the list wow okay and Adam Dunn Adam Dunn not on the list wow that's a tie game so what's

Speaker 29 what's our top five the top five andrew jones led the league in home runs andrew jones arod was second david ortiz was third a repeat from the hit list derek lee had ace what is it here and then manny ramirez i literally was like cubs it can't be derek lee who else do they how did i not think about anyone on the red socks

Speaker 9 he was wearing reading glasses to show that time had passed adnan virk now with me we're gonna do the actual mlb breakdown for you all we'll get back to the trivia game with chris in just a second but Adnan of MLB Network, MLB Tonight.

Speaker 9 He'll be on MLB Network doing MLB tonight on opening day on Thursday. Adnan, hey man, it's great to see you.
Been six months since I've seen your face.

Speaker 36 I was about to say, it's been a minute, buddy, but it's great to see you. I'm so glad the Pitch Pock is back, which is fantastic news for all of us here as baseball fans.

Speaker 36 Of all the matches we've looked forward to, and we'll get into all the games to look forward to. The fact that the Dodgers and Tigers, Snell versus Scubal, that is as good as baseball gets.

Speaker 31 I can't wait.

Speaker 9 What's crazy about that is that I think I'm going to be in an even better pitching matchup between Sandy El Contra and Paul Skeens.

Speaker 14 That's how good opening day is.

Speaker 9 That's how good opening day is. And we'll get to it.

Speaker 9 But basically, what I wanted to do here was just sort of go through players and teams to watch as we can kind of set everybody up for what to expect in this baseball season.

Speaker 31 So

Speaker 9 where I want to start with you is with the top five best players in Major League Baseball going into 2025.

Speaker 36 So at number five, I got Bryce Harper, two-time MVP. I want to see Harper finally get that elusive World Series ring.
I've got him at five.

Speaker 36 Number four, I've got Bobby Witt, who you can't spell hit without Witt. He was the run-run for the MVP in the American League.
The guy's war is off the charts.

Speaker 36 Mookie Betts, two-time MVP, coming out for World Series Championship. I got Aaron Judge at two, one of the best seasons ever by a right-handed hitter.
And of course, number one, Shohei Otani.

Speaker 36 How does he top 50-50? I can't wait to see him pitch again. I'm praying he wins a saiyong.
That's the only way he could top himself. And what he's done so far, Galton is cyng as a pitcher now.

Speaker 9 It would be amazing. And I love that list.
To me, one of my favorite players in baseball is Bobby Witt Jr. I can't wait to see how he follows up last season.

Speaker 9 And that actually leads perfectly to my next question for you, because sometimes the best player doesn't necessarily mean the most watchable.

Speaker 9 So, Aden, who are your top five most watchable players in Major League Baseball?

Speaker 36 Well, I got to go with a starting pitcher of the game. You mentioned him, Paul Skeens.
To me, Paul Skins is on the man on this guy, the top five musty event in television.

Speaker 36 His second season, he's going to start opening the eighth for the first time. Number four, I've got Mason Miller because he throws 103 miles per hour.

Speaker 36 So every time he comes to the game for the Ace, I love Mason Miller. Number three, Juan Soto, not just for the fact he hits, but also the Soto shuffle, all the histrionics.

Speaker 36 Every time he's up there, Soto is fun to watch. Number two, the aforementioned Bobby Witt, I'll put him in my top five most exciting players because he's the 30-30 to waiting to happen.

Speaker 36 And number one, Fernando Tatis, because he's an absolute showman. He's so exuberant.
Every time Nando's up, the hair, the glasses, the flare.

Speaker 9 Love him. Give me your top five best teams in Major League Baseball headed into the season.
I imagine they'll be some of the similar names that we're used to.

Speaker 36 I got the Yankees at five, but I think that ALEs, it's funny, I was looking at one of the draft kings. I think it was their projections for the ALEs, all five teams between 80 and 88 wins.

Speaker 36 It was crazy. Not much separation in the ALEs.
So I think it's going to be tight. I'll put the Yankees.
Number four, I'll take the Mets.

Speaker 36 Concerned a little bit about their starting pitching because the fact that Maniah is not healthy to start the year, but that offense, dude, when you've got Soto, Lindor, Vientos, Pete Alonso, they're going to match two through six.

Speaker 36 I really like their offense. Phillies, they got a bang.
Again, this is their year. Shoreboard is a free agent after this season.
Zach Wheeler's got to win a sign-on one of these days.

Speaker 36 Him and Nola together, amazing.

Speaker 36 A little bit concerned about their bullpen, but their offense is going to score a ton of runs as they should with Trey Turner and others. Number two, I've got the Braves.

Speaker 36 They could challenge the Dodgers. Best record in baseball.
Now with a healthy Spencer Strider and Arreal Decunha. And number one, of course, it's the Dodgers.

Speaker 36 I don't think they get the all-time wins record. I don't think they click close to the mirror, so they don't need to.
I think they win 106 games and they feel good about it. They win the division.

Speaker 36 But those are my five right now. Heavily slated towards the National League, as as you can see.
Top four all-N-L.

Speaker 9 And a lot of coastal baseball that we're talking about. The Midwest is not going to be happy with you, Adnan.
But maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe a couple of those teams make this list.

Speaker 9 I asked you about watchable players.

Speaker 11 Who are the top five watchable teams?

Speaker 36 I think the Chicago Cubs are a very interesting team because of the fact that Kyle Tucker is now there. It could be a $400 million man as a free agent.
And I love Pete Crow Armstrong.

Speaker 36 I got to go to Cubs Camp in Mesa, Arizona, Jeremy, and talk to PCA. He's a great dude.
He's got the crazy hair.

Speaker 36 He's just a fascinating individual.

Speaker 9 And his mom is from Little Big League.

Speaker 1 I was about to say, mom from Little Big League, so I asked him about that.

Speaker 36 He said, I got to meet Ken Ruffey Jr. You know, we talked a little bit about baseball.
Number four, I got the Jays. Big year for the Jays, okay? Vlad's going to step up.

Speaker 36 Bo, both these guys, walk years. I think their starting pitching is actually the best in the American League East.
D-Bax, dude, they're starting pitching.

Speaker 36 Speaking of, no one's thinking about Corbin Burns. The fact he's now a member of this Arizona staff, along with Zach Allen,

Speaker 36 Jordan Montgomery is almost a forgotten man of Guardo Rodriguez. Their starting pitching in Arizona is going to be a lot of fun to watch.

Speaker 36 And their offense had the most runs in the national league last year, led by Cattell Marte, Corbin Carroll. Josh Naylor is now with that team.
The Royals have gone at number two.

Speaker 36 Again, not just Bobby Witt. I love Benny Pasquantino.
Italian breakfast, one of his nicknames. The pass watch, and the fact that there's a Sasquatch wandering around is hilarious.

Speaker 36 And number one, you touched on it earlier, Ellie De La Cruz, the Reds. I think Terry Franco, the Tito Magic, will come back.
The Reds are an exciting, fun, young team to watch.

Speaker 36 Spencer's here, Matt McClain, Hunter Green with their pitching staff, Andrew Abbott. I think the Reds will be pretty fun.

Speaker 29 Third category, we're we're going to the wins leaders in the 2005 slot not teams pitchers uh

Speaker 9 i'm going with a couple of of big names here just just to do it because i feel like they should be mentioned all right i feel decent about five i got five this guy he was hurt by then all right come on i think there's one more guy i think we're another guy

Speaker 9 i've got five

Speaker 9 all right Roger Clemens.

Speaker 29 No. Roger Clemens not on the list.
No, okay.

Speaker 9 Randy Johnson.

Speaker 29 Randy Johnson, not on the list.

Speaker 10 Really? Okay. Pedro.

Speaker 29 Pedro Martinez, not on the list.

Speaker 29 How is that the case?

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 9 I'm feeling better about myself. I am feeling like an idiot.
Jake Peavy.

Speaker 29 Jake Peavy, not on the list.

Speaker 9 Don't have that one either. The last one's my favorite just because I wanted to say his name and mention him.
Brandon Webb.

Speaker 30 Brandon Webb, not on the list.

Speaker 9 That's a good guess, though.

Speaker 9 Cece Sabathia.

Speaker 10 I had CC Sabatha. C.
Cross Mallet.

Speaker 35 Not on the list. Okay, thank God.

Speaker 9 Roy Holiday.

Speaker 29 Roy Holiday, not on the list.

Speaker 9 This is insane.

Speaker 12 Tim Hudson.

Speaker 29 Tim Hudson.

Speaker 29 I hate to say it, boys. It's not on the list.

Speaker 9 Wait, didn't. I have one more, though, right? I think Mark Pryor.

Speaker 31 Mark Pryor, not on the list.

Speaker 29 You guys are going to kick yourself up at who would have been five points.

Speaker 9 Go.

Speaker 31 Tell me. Dantre Willis.

Speaker 8 Oh, no.

Speaker 24 20-plus wins.

Speaker 9 Oh, so Chris Carpenter's on this list.

Speaker 29 Chris Carpenter was number three.

Speaker 31 That's the year. Yeah, that's the year.
Damn it.

Speaker 9 Roy Oswalt's on this list.

Speaker 29 Jeremy, now that he knows Dontre.

Speaker 9 I can't believe I didn't remember this was the D-Train year.

Speaker 10 That's offensive that we didn't get D-Train.

Speaker 29 Bartolo Colon was two, Chris Carpenter was three, Roy Oswalt was four, and then John Garland was fifth place.

Speaker 9 I can't believe that we're starting this season with maybe the most upset I've ever been at myself.

Speaker 29 Going into the fourth, anybody's game, the fourth category is strikeouts.

Speaker 9 As a. As a pitcher.

Speaker 35 Okay.

Speaker 29 Who was punching people?

Speaker 9 Oh, we just said all these names. Yeah, now I can't remember any of them.

Speaker 35 All right, whatever.

Speaker 9 Guess I feel decent. I mean, I have five.
I got five.

Speaker 30 All right, Chris Cody.

Speaker 9 I basically have four names that we just said in the last category and then one other name. Yep.
Dantre Willis.

Speaker 29 Dantre Willis, not on the list.

Speaker 10 No, no.

Speaker 30 He wasn't a huge striker. I also had him on the list.

Speaker 9 Cece Sabathia riding this train.

Speaker 29 Cece Sabathia, not on the list.

Speaker 9 Chris Carpenter.

Speaker 14 Chris Carpenter is on the list.

Speaker 31 He is third on the list, three points.

Speaker 9 You kept him off? I kept him off.

Speaker 9 So three, i get yep all right big roy oswalt roy oswalt not on the list and then this one i just thought of didn't think of it last cat david price david price not on the list probably two or less okay my my three that i have that he didn't two of them i'm going back to the well randy johnson randy johnson fourth so you get two points there oh not not three there okay but i'm so i'm still one behind you pedro martinez pedro martinez fifth on the list so you get one point oh we're tied wow and bartolo colon no bartolo colon not on the list.

Speaker 10 Yes. Wow.
What a great one.

Speaker 9 This was Pedro's met year.

Speaker 29 Again, you're going to kick yourself on some of these names.

Speaker 9 I know I am.

Speaker 29 Johan Santana was first for five points. Second on the list, somebody you said last round, Jake Peavy.
No!

Speaker 10 Four points. No! Would have been four points.
No!

Speaker 7 He was a strikeout.

Speaker 29 Then it was Chris Carpenter, third, Randy Johnson, fourth. And then there was a three-way tie for fifth.
Doug Davis, Pedro Martinez, Brett Myers.

Speaker 9 Doug Davis. What a name.
That brings me back.

Speaker 22 All right, Adnan.

Speaker 9 Now we talked about some of the best players, some of the best teams, the watchable players, the watchable teams, but some of those guys have switched teams. I think a lot of people always get

Speaker 9 caught off guard by trades and free agent movements. So who are a few players, Adnan, that switched teams this offseason who you think could end up having a big impact?

Speaker 36 You know, I think Christian Walker is a really key guy for the Houston Astros. This is a different year, Jeremy, for the Astros.
They're not going to have Alex Bregman there.

Speaker 36 They're not going to have Kyle Tucker there. Christian Walker expected a good season there of the Houston Astros.
Josh Naylor, I mentioned on there with the D-Backs.

Speaker 36 The guys are run-producing machine. They had a great offense a year ago.
Naylor could be 30, 100 in the desert with a really good team around him as he goes to the next level.

Speaker 36 Obviously, Soto with the Mets, $765 million man. Devin Williams, an electric closer for the New York Yankees.
I'll throw one more at you. Anthony Santander, the Blue Jays.

Speaker 36 He had over 40 home runs last season, signs a five-year deal with the Jays with a deferred money. It's only $14 million a season.
The Jays needed some oomph, and they've got that now with Santander.

Speaker 9 those five guys for me very interesting what they're going to do this year who are a couple of teams at nan that you think might be able to surprise people this season so i think the reds are one of those teams because again in that division it's very winnable i do think the cubs should win that division um i think the d-backs people are looking at way too much at just the dodger the d-backs are going to push them a little bit and i do think a forgotten team is the san diego padre we all expected them to beat the dodgers in the playoffs that was what everybody anticipated so there's no reason for me to believe that they won't still be a really good and competitive team I'm going to make you give predictions at the start of the year so that inevitably we can make fun of you at the end of the year when they're wrong.

Speaker 9 So, Ad Nan, I'm looking for your MVP in each league, your Cy Young Award winner in each league, and your rookie of the year in each league. Let's start with MVP.

Speaker 36 MVP, I'm going to go with Vlad. Going into his season, I'll pay you with that.
Vlad goes out, wins MVP, then gets $500 million from the Toronto Blue Jays. He's been knocking on the door.

Speaker 36 He was second back in 2021. I think he does it.
I want to say Otani Jeremy is the easy pick, but why not? Let's go Ellie De La Cruz.

Speaker 36 Arriving the Reds train just has a massive season for Terry Franco and the Reds. They make the plastic.
Ellie just goes off.

Speaker 9 If those two dudes win MVP, we're looking at a very fun baseball season. Who are your Cy Young award winners?

Speaker 36 I'm going with

Speaker 36 Ball Skeens, not exactly off the board. They're the Pirates, but I like this KC one.
Cole Reagan's, who was fourth in cyon voting a season ago. He had 223 strikeouts.
I love the guy.

Speaker 36 Got to go to Royals Camp, like I said. I think Reagan's is absolute nails.
That Royal staff, second most innings, second best area of any team. You look at Seattle a lot.

Speaker 36 Logan Gilbert's kind of a trendy pick. I'm going with Reagan's.

Speaker 9 I can already see the headline, raving about Reagan's and

Speaker 9 the rookie of the years for you.

Speaker 36 Cade Smith's going to break camp with the Houston Ashles. I think he had a good season there with Houston.
Could be a really important piece for them.

Speaker 36 And this one, I know the only thing they get called up, but I hear a lot of good things. I watched him in the spring.
Chase Dollinger, the Rockies. What a great story that would be.

Speaker 36 A pitcher actually wins rookie of the year. He's got all the tools.

Speaker 36 I know the Rockies are awful, so maybe they'll take their time, but I'm telling you, Dollander is going to be dollars for the Rockies.

Speaker 9 Finally, Adnan, look, you told me who you felt the best teams were, the interesting element.

Speaker 9 You had the Yankees as the best team in the American League, and you had the Dodgers as the best team in the National League. Is that your World Series prediction?

Speaker 9 Who makes the World Series this year and who ultimately wins it?

Speaker 36 So this is going to get a little bit ridiculous. I kind of wanted to go Chicago Cubs out of the World Series because I was like, you know what?

Speaker 36 They're going to have an easier path than those other teams, but I can't go quite there as much as I love Craig Council. But I will go D-Bax getting back to the World Series.
How about that?

Speaker 36 I'm set for the Snakes as they go back. And you want me to go really nuts? I mean,

Speaker 36 this is absolutely ridiculous, but I'm going to go to the Kansas City Royals of the American League.

Speaker 37 They're back in the World Series.

Speaker 36 I'm all about Reagan's and Witt and Seth Lugo and Lucas Ursig and Vinny Pasquentino. I'm buying the Kool-Aid at a Kaufman Stadium, a Royals D-Backs World Series.
Could you imagine?

Speaker 9 Give me the passwatch in the World Series right now. Diamondbacks Royals.
You heard it here first. Hey, baseball fans, I hope you enjoyed the plethora of information that Adnan just delivered to you.

Speaker 9 But we have to finish our trivia game with Chris Cody, who will come out the victor, me or Chris? Find out right now.

Speaker 9 We're going into the final category here, tied at 10 points apiece. Taylor, what is our final category? Let me guess.

Speaker 9 I just want to guess because he's gone two hitting, two pitching. I bet stolen bases.

Speaker 30 No, good idea, though.

Speaker 29 I am going to the bullpen. We're going saves.

Speaker 29 Who were the saves leaders in 2005?

Speaker 9 Give us an extra 3. I need 90 seconds for this.

Speaker 9 There is a name that came to mind that I think I'm too early on.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 9 I got five names. Go Greg.
I've circled two, and I'm already upset with myself for eliminating one of these names, and I think it's going to be the difference. Let's see.

Speaker 9 I feel good about four of my five.

Speaker 29 Jeremy, reveal your five.

Speaker 9 Mariano Rivera. Same, got that.

Speaker 29 Mariano Rivera, tie for fourth, so you get two points.

Speaker 9 Billy Wagner.

Speaker 30 Billy Wagner, not on the list.

Speaker 8 No. I do not have Mariana.

Speaker 9 Big. Trevor Hoffman.

Speaker 29 Trevor Hoffman tied for fourth on the list with Mariano so you get two points there.

Speaker 35 Okay.

Speaker 29 Chris, you didn't have Trevor? I didn't have him.

Speaker 9 Jonathan Papplebon.

Speaker 29 Papplebon, not on the list.

Speaker 30 Yes.

Speaker 9 Bobby Jenks of the Chicago White Sox.

Speaker 30 Bobby Jenks, not on the list.

Speaker 1 Not on the list, really, even in a year where they had a good year.

Speaker 9 All right.

Speaker 21 So I've only got four.

Speaker 29 How many names do you have still?

Speaker 30 I have four names.

Speaker 29 So you need two to tie, three to win.

Speaker 10 I feel great about this.

Speaker 9 Oh, you're going to win.

Speaker 9 I might be seeing.

Speaker 9 Gagne. Eric Gagne.
Oh.

Speaker 30 Gagne not on the list. No.

Speaker 8 Wow.

Speaker 10 Fernando Rodney.

Speaker 29 Fernando Rodney, not on the list.

Speaker 31 Oh, my God.

Speaker 22 Oh, my God.

Speaker 9 Kevin Gregg.

Speaker 29 Kevin Gregg, not on the list.

Speaker 10 Okay. Good.

Speaker 9 I just thought of a closer of that.

Speaker 29 So this is your last name. I'm sick.
He's going to blow this.

Speaker 31 I am. Who is this guy?

Speaker 35 I don't feel good anymore. Say it.

Speaker 10 keith folk keith folk not on the list

Speaker 10 what we're got let's go

Speaker 29 the saves leader that year from the washington nationals chad cordero that that second on the list from the los angeles angels francisco rodriguez oh

Speaker 29 k-rod of course i am a piece of tied for second with k-rod from the Cleveland franchise, Bob Wickman.

Speaker 29 And also tied for fourth, a name, popular name from the early 2000s, from the Minnesota Twins, Joe Nathan.

Speaker 9 Oh, Joe Nathan, of course. I am pretty sure last year

Speaker 9 I either won once or not at all, and it didn't come until

Speaker 9 very much toward the end of the year. So I am grateful to kick off.

Speaker 8 I felt good about Mariana Rivera.

Speaker 9 Winning Day episode, Eric Gagne with a victory. Nando Rodney score one for Jerbear.

Speaker 30 The Washington Generals get one.

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