PMS 2.0 1452 - NFL Week 11 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Pitt Head Football Coach Pat Narduzzi, Nick Saban, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 2 Welcome, Feel Good Friday, November 14th.

Speaker 3 This is the Pat McAfee show. I'm AJ Hawks sitting in for Pat here at his desk in Indy.

Speaker 4 He's in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 Huge matchup, boys.

Speaker 1 Football!

Speaker 5 It's what we're all talking about. Last night, obviously, the New England Patriots take on the New York Jets.
The Patriots get a nice, decisive victory. What? 13 points, I believe.

Speaker 5 Is that right, boys?

Speaker 6 And their line was, what, 12 and a half?

Speaker 5 Funny how that seems to play a factor. Those guys seem to always know what's going on when it comes to the sports world.
Drake May, another solid, solid performance.

Speaker 5 Trayvion Henderson, three touchdowns, unbelievable as a rookie, stepping in, playing well. Boston, Boston Connor, especially.
You guys feeling pretty damn good about yourselves, aren't you?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no doubt about it. I'll have a shitting grin on my face for a long, long time.
It was a hell of a night. Could have been a little more dominant, but hey, it's a win.
You go from 8-2 to 9-2.

Speaker 2 That's the only thing that matters.

Speaker 5 It is a win. Pat, what's going on, man? I know you got a nice, beautiful setup over there at AcroShare Stadium, buddy.

Speaker 7 AJ, I appreciate that. Every time I bring you onto the show, you know, I let the world know you're a college football national champion, you're a Super Bowl champion, you're a Ryder Cup winner.

Speaker 7 You know, I appreciate you just saying you hell with it. Pat, you're standing somewhere.
That is incredible. I appreciate you, AJ.
You're the greatest. Thank you for traveling to Indiana.

Speaker 7 You look good, brother. You look very jacked.
You're the best. Now, at Talks of Tables, Boston Connor is obviously very excited.

Speaker 7 That New England Patriots team was able to say hello to the world last night. And I don't think it was just the boys on the field.
Now, obviously, that's a talented young bunch.

Speaker 7 I mean, Trace Vion Henderson going for three touchdowns and them being behind the left side of that offensive line, which is a rookie left tackle and a rookie left guard and a rookie running back running it in from the handoff of a second-year quarterback.

Speaker 7 It's like all the pillar positions are seemingly up and to the right for a long, long time. And then you think about Mike Vrable being the perfect supreme commander of this team.

Speaker 7 It felt like we've watched it all season through Connor's eyes.

Speaker 7 You know, when we're watching the Colts games and Connor's down there wearing his Patriots gear in the Indianapolis Colts Stadium and he's watching the game behind us, we hear him losing his mind to the team, not just this year, but in years past as well.

Speaker 7 This year felt different from the beginning.

Speaker 7 It felt like Mike Vrabel had the boys ready to roll and they talked all night about how, hey, there's a lot of first times happening for a lot of guys on the Patriots and Mike Vrabel might be the perfect guy to lead them.

Speaker 7 He's one of the coaches who feels like he's still in the locker room.

Speaker 9 He's the alpha of the locker room.

Speaker 7 After the game, as the tunnel was kind of there, all Vrabel's doing is dapping up literally every single human as they come back into the locker room.

Speaker 7 He clearly has a personal connection with everybody. And I think Drake May is special.
I think I'm not the only one saying that. Obviously, he's the odds-on favorite for an MVP.

Speaker 7 And not only does he, I think in the first half, he was like 14 of 16. I think he damn near had a perfect first half.
And it's like he's in his second year, first year with Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 7 He's only going to get better, but every decision he makes is seemingly right.

Speaker 7 Everybody was worried about his fundamentals and his technique, that new ball, whenever he was coming out of UNC, because he's a freak athlete.

Speaker 7 Well, turns out if you work on it and you're really, really athletic, you can figure it out while also having the ability to extend plays. That play obviously is spectacular.

Speaker 7 There was one to the right where he's almost out of bounds and he shot puts it to Stefan Diggs for a first down, and it's like the shot put even had a perfect spiral on it somehow.

Speaker 7 So this dude is only

Speaker 7 going to get better somehow. And this Patriots team is special.
And Connor, I appreciated the fact that the New Englanders were able to celebrate that thing. That was late in the game.

Speaker 7 We all kind of knew it was over. And that place was filled to the gills.
I love the Patriots fans were able to remind everybody,

Speaker 7 yeah, we still got it, and yeah, we're back. Is that how you felt watching the game, Connor? And obviously, now looking back on it, we should have sent your ass to this game.

Speaker 7 I apologize for not thinking about that earlier.

Speaker 2 I do not apologize. The Jets are not worth my time.
But yes, that is exactly how I think everybody feels in New England.

Speaker 2 The team being all the way back is one thing, but the fans being all the way back is a whole nother thing. I mean, look at these throws.
If you look up in the stands, everyone's standing as well.

Speaker 2 They're not just sitting there to, you know, watch the game. They're there to be a part of the game.
And I think that is a big thing in New England sports.

Speaker 2 They want the home field advantage across all four of the major sports, but especially football, because football, it just means more.

Speaker 2 You mentioned all the young guys and how awesome it is. I think the left guard, Jared Wilson, rookie from Georgia, shout out Kirby Smart Bloody Tuesdays.

Speaker 2 He had like a perfect, you know, all the stats people, perfect, whatever the hell you want to call it, pass protection, run blocking, the whole nine yards. Will Campbell.

Speaker 2 I mean, they did a spotlight on Will Campbell versus Will McDonald. And Will McDonald's a great player.
I believe he ended up getting a sack, actually, but Will Campbell held his own.

Speaker 2 And that was a huge thing. Not just against the Jets, just all season long.

Speaker 2 And then he buries Michael clemens it's after this on a on a little swim move from michael clemens who i believe is a vet we saw him walking in with a bat and spikes around it when aaron rodgers was playing with the jets so it's not as if he's just some guy he he's a bit of a dog but will campbell is a bigger dog and the post-game the first of all amazon has the best pregame uh halftime and post-game show in the business by far.

Speaker 1 I agree, by the way. I agree.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 They're worth watching, I think.

Speaker 2 Yes, they're worth staying up for, like, both with the players, but they also just do stuff that you don't think about.

Speaker 2 Now, bringing a Ryan Fitzpatrick in from New York when there's probably 2,000 different Ryan Fitzmagricks littered throughout Massachusetts, what are you going to do?

Speaker 2 But still hilarious that they did that in that post-game, though. You know, they asked May about Mike Vrabel and everything he means to him.
And, you know, May talks about how he helps me.

Speaker 2 He's coaching me on the sideline, not just with throwing the ball, but with everything it takes to be a quarterback. And May says in it, too, like, yeah, I'm taking the next three days off.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to be there till Monday. And Vrabel actually talked about too, you know, hey, look, I'm 50.
These guys I'm coaching, you mentioned it, Pat, they're rookies. They're 21, 22, 23.

Speaker 2 My youngest son is 23. So it does feel almost like a fatherly supreme leader to what you said and to what Drake May mentioned about not being there, you know, for three straight days.

Speaker 2 I was kind of like, all right, well, don't love that, Drake. It's cool.
We're 9-2, but you can easily still finish 9-8. It is the NFL.

Speaker 2 But then Mike Frable had this to say in the locker room after the victory.

Speaker 10 Listen, Jimmy, I want to recognize a couple of things. Okay, so we're giving one clap.
Pile push, touchdown.

Speaker 10 And then the last one is fourth down and three. Dell pedestri.

Speaker 10 And I would say you could file Dell on the guys that just take advantage of their opportunities.

Speaker 10 Okay, I would file Dell on a guy that takes advantage of his opportunities. So we know what that leads to.
Okay, more opportunities. Fellas, let me just tell you real quick one thing.

Speaker 10 After 11 games, we got three days off. Okay, when we got here, okay, we wanted to put a program together for you.
Okay, and that's not just me and the coaching staff or the players.

Speaker 10 Okay, that's everybody in this building.

Speaker 10 Okay, so before you leave here, okay, with the treatment and the equipment and the video and everybody around us, okay, I'm thanking you for where we're at right now.

Speaker 10 Okay, we all got a long way to go. Okay, and you guys are going to help us get there, okay, together.
But that was the plan. Not just the players, not just the coaches, the entire program, okay?

Speaker 10 Everything we do, okay, we're doing to help you to go out there and make plays, to perform, and to ultimately win. Okay, I'm proud to be your coach, and I appreciate how hard you play, okay?

Speaker 10 But I'm also going to enjoy a couple days away from you.

Speaker 1 I don't enjoy me working this now, man. Be safe.
See y'all boys on Monday.

Speaker 8 Love you guys, man. Hey, Pats on me, Pats on three.

Speaker 1 One, two, three.

Speaker 7 I love that. Pats on me.
Hey, I love that. Pat's on me, pats on three.
And I appreciate the fact that they've had a long road here to start this season, you know.

Speaker 7 So, these three days, I think Vrabel also, AJ, is maybe showing these guys how to be pros. Like, hey, we have a Thursday night game.

Speaker 7 If you want to take the next couple of days off, it's the middle of the season. We've had a long run thus far.
You could certainly do that. I'm going to get the hell away from you.

Speaker 7 Now, there's going to be work put in, though, because I think that's a team that they're building. I just appreciate his leadership and I appreciate the buy-in that we see seemingly from everywhere.

Speaker 7 Vrabel is, AJ.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, for young people that might not know of Vrabel as a player in New England, like he was an unbelievable player.

Speaker 5 We know that, but could there be a better fit for a head coach of a franchise than you think of the NFL?

Speaker 5 When you think of Mike Vrabel, like the fact that he's there and that they were able, you know, they had Mayo for a year, obviously it didn't really work how they planned.

Speaker 5 And to bring him in, it's like such a seamless transition. Are things going too well for the Patriots? Guys like Boston Conner getting nervous, you think?

Speaker 7 No, I don't know if things are going too well. I think they're only going to get better.
And I think that's the fear of every other team, that the evil empire is

Speaker 1 up. Are these Patriots packed? Sorry to cut you off.

Speaker 5 Are these Patriots easier to root for maybe than the old Patriots, though? Or is this a team where, I guess, nationwide, not just in Boston?

Speaker 7 Well, so I think Tom Brady did a little bit of a babyface play, right? Tom Brady, whenever he kind of retired, did a little bit of a babyface play because he was out of the evil empire.

Speaker 7 I think we saw them fail. a little bit.

Speaker 7 We saw Boston people, Massachusetts people, Revolution region people kind of have to go through it a little bit in football, turn their attention to basketball again. Yeah, we got Celtics 7.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 7 You know, whatever the case is. So I think we all got to experience that.
And then we watched with Gerod Mayo, and I think, you know, not a lot of people thought Drake May was going to be good.

Speaker 7 So it feels like Drake May is maybe an underdog story. We saw Vrabel get fired from the Titans.
I think we all think the Titans are stupid for that. Everybody kind of agreed with that.

Speaker 7 So it's almost a couple redemption stories for some people that I think we're naturally going to get behind.

Speaker 7 But if the Patriots win a couple times here, you know, they start making some real runs, which looks like they're going to, everybody will hate them again.

Speaker 7 I think that is very clear. And I think that's what you heard from one half of the hammer.

Speaker 1 Dad.

Speaker 7 Cowboys, AP Tone. Is that what your takeaway is?

Speaker 7 That you like the Patriots right now and you're planning on hating them, or that they're all the way back and they're going to be a part of the picture and people are going to inevitably hate them again?

Speaker 7 Correct.

Speaker 4 The latter of those situations. And it's strictly because it's not the people, because Raves is awesome.
Absolutely love Mike Rabel. Drake May's awesome.
Trayvion Henderson's awesome.

Speaker 4 Will Campbell's awesome. Everyone on the team is awesome, but the colors and the team, and you can't like or root for a team that's already won six Super Bowls in the last 25 years.

Speaker 4 Like that's just not something you can do if you are a football fan of another team.

Speaker 6 Like we can't like them. Okay, please.

Speaker 4 The people on there are awesome. You can root for them individually, but as a team, you cannot root for them.

Speaker 1 The Patriots, though, seemingly likable. Yeah, very much so.

Speaker 7 I don't want to burst the old, let's hate them bubble because I would certainly see how that would make sense.

Speaker 7 But even Trayvion Henderson, I heard him talk after the game, first time I've ever heard him speak. Have you ever, did you know that,

Speaker 7 have you, he's maybe the most humble person I've heard talk. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 Drake May speaks, most humble person that you hear speak from a quarterback, especially one who's the odds on favorite to win the MVP at this point of the season in his second year, even coming out of college.

Speaker 7 It's like youngest of three brothers, younger, younger, younger brother kind of beat down. I don't think he's ever going to become some arrogant prick.

Speaker 7 You know, like, I don't think that's ever going to take place. And then Vrabel is a guy that I think we all believe we'd like to have a beer or whiskey and maybe smoke a sig or maybe

Speaker 7 an entire tan of cope with. You know, like, I do think it is a very like crew.
And then Stephon Diggs even.

Speaker 7 I think Stephon Diggs, because of everything that has kind of happened in the past, there's maybe one belief about him. And he's in a very, very,

Speaker 7 very loud relationship. Congrats to them, I think.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Congrats to them. having a baby and both of them obviously publicly relationships and personal lives have been documented.
They seemingly are having a good time together.

Speaker 7 And anytime two people find love and happiness together, we are happy for them. So, congrats to them on doing that.
But, Stephon Diggs buying into this team completely. Like, there's never any shit.

Speaker 7 And last night he goes for 100 and some yards on nine catches. It's like Drake May understands who Stephon Diggs is.

Speaker 7 People are saying that Stephon Diggs is back to being the Stephon Diggs that you thought he was going to be on the field.

Speaker 7 And it's like with Vrabel, it feels like you have a guy that Stephon Diggs, you know, probably respects, I think. So, like,

Speaker 7 I think there's a chance that it all just kind of goes very swimmingly for them. They even have their own handshake.

Speaker 7 We even do our own handshake. They went backhand there.
I don't know if you saw that. He did slap, hug with everybody else, literally everybody else, including equipment staff.

Speaker 7 With Stephon Diggs, they go backhand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little sauce on that thing.

Speaker 7 Backhand on that. So it's like when you talk about like chemistry, superstars to brand new guys, everybody's bought in.
It's like,

Speaker 7 here's Stephon Force's like stats, by the way. I mean, Hembo sent her some stats.
I just saw these down on the thing.

Speaker 7 Stephon Diggs, force multiplier, 2019, 2020, Bill scoring offense offense went from 23rd to second whenever he arrived. Allen's QBR rank went from 24th to third, okay, with his arrival.

Speaker 7 Now, granted, Josh Allen got a lot better in the offseason. He didn't have a lot of accuracy deep balls.
Stephon Diggs certainly helped that.

Speaker 7 Now, 2024 to 2025, Patriots scoring offense goes from 30th to 8th, and May QBR goes from 17th to 4th. Once again, Drake may put in a lot of work.

Speaker 7 Josh McDaniels, we assume, is a much better offensive coordinator. But Stephon Diggs comes in and helps a lot.
And I think they respect and appreciate him.

Speaker 7 So hopefully, you know, there's not the other side of the entire thing, right? Con man?

Speaker 1 That's kind of the hope in this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. And I think that just goes back to Vrabel.
You know, Stefan Diggs isn't on a, you know, the signing was three years, $60 million, but that's not how the contract was laid out.

Speaker 2 It was a prove-it deal. It was more so like a one-year, $14 million deal.
Hey, let's see if you can earn all that money. And he did.

Speaker 2 He earned everything that, you know, he is going to get because of, you know, what Mike Vrabel is able to get him to buy into.

Speaker 2 I believe there was a report that Diggs actually chose the Patriots over the Broncos in this offseason, which to me is a massive deal because going into the season, everyone was kind of aware the Broncos with Sean Payton, that offense was going to get it done.

Speaker 2 It's nice that Vrabel was able to kind of open Stephon Diggs' eyes to how much better Drake May is than Bo Nicks.

Speaker 2 But that's the biggest deal for me is that just Diggs is one of those players that had this reputation of being a diva, of being a wide receiver, and you're still getting it.

Speaker 2 For me, I'm still getting it on the internet. Well, just wait, you know, when it's week 15 or it's the playoffs and he only has two catches.
No, that is not how Mike Vrabel operates.

Speaker 2 And I think Stephon Diggs understands that. And he also knows at this point in his career, he's being called the diva, the receiver, the prima donna, all those things.

Speaker 2 So the biggest thing for him is winning, is kind of proving to basically everybody else that he's not just a, hey, if I don't get my catches, if I don't get my touches, I'm going to be pissed off.

Speaker 2 It is about winning for Stefan Diggs, and that's showing up right now. It's incredible.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and then on the flip side, AJ, you know,

Speaker 1 there's a tough offense on the other side.

Speaker 7 Now, hey, they walk right down the field.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Hey, they walk right down the field whenever they get the ball. 7-0, New York Jets, hold the phone.

Speaker 7 I heard Con Man say earlier today, is there a prop bet for them to have negative offensive rushing or negative offensive yards as a whole?

Speaker 7 They start the game, walk right down the field, score a touchdown, hold the phone. Maybe the Jets are going to be dynamic.

Speaker 7 Maybe the Jets are going to spoil this new england patriots prime time hello to the world that we are once again the team in the nfl that's why i thought they're early and i'm like i should have known there was two we were way too loud we were way too loud way too loud about the patriots just beating hell and then the game ends uh patriots cover the under hits and the other team is now uh on a rate that would be historically terrible so when when when you think about what's going on with the new york football jets okay they're averaging a league low 139.9 passing yards per game that'd be be the lowest in the NFL since the 2022 Bears.

Speaker 7 130 and a half, who's worse?

Speaker 7 Justin Fields, quarterback. So,

Speaker 7 I like Justin Fields. I don't want to bury Justin Fields.

Speaker 7 Okay, I'm not going to bury Justin Fields. I like Justin Fields.
Great athlete, good dude, works hard.

Speaker 8 They told Aaron Rodgers, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 7 Okay, that's what they told Aaron Rodgers to do. Now, I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers is going to win the MVP this year, but they, in their mind, were moving on to a new quarterback.

Speaker 7 Quarterback's most important position. They seemingly, without even having a conversation with Aaron Rodgers, they had made up their mind, we're getting him the hell out of here.
Yep.

Speaker 7 What are you going to do?

Speaker 14 A quarterback? Well, we'll get somebody better for sure.

Speaker 1 We'll definitely do that.

Speaker 7 Then there were multiple quarterbacks that were available this offseason. Obviously, we saw some moves happen and some OGs go take places.

Speaker 7 Joe Flacco was just kind of hanging out to potentially available wherever you're talking at. So, whenever you think about what they did, they made a decision on a quarterback.

Speaker 7 They paid Justin Fields $30 million.

Speaker 7 They outbid the Pittsburgh Steelers on Justin Fields, and they've already this is going to be their quarterback so the conversation now is like well the jets have all these picks and uh they're going to be able to rebuild this and they get rid of you know the the old money and now they'll have new money it's like who says that these people are making the right decisions in the most important part ty who who what How am I judging that way too harshly?

Speaker 7 Because I think we were just so close to the story with Aaron coming on and saying, I fly four and a half hours to this meeting.

Speaker 7 Like the way Aaron talked about this, Aaron was cool with whatever, would have stayed there. I'm not saying they should have kept him.
We were very okay with them moving on.

Speaker 7 But just like they seemingly made a decision, we're getting a new quarterback, and they chose Justin Fields to be the quarterback, and now it's going how it's going.

Speaker 7 So, who says that they're going to be able to just choose the right one? I think that's a much harder decision than many people are talking about, Taj Schmidt.

Speaker 15 Yeah, without a doubt. And I think they actually, like, we talked about this at the start of the season.

Speaker 15 It kind of came from the Jets building and then from a lot of people who were talking about the Jets as a whole. Like, the primer was basically, hey, we're going to have to play really good defense.

Speaker 15 We're going to have to run the ball and we can't turn the ball over. Like they knew Justin Fields wasn't going to be a guy who was going to throw for a bunch of yards and throw a lot of touchdowns.

Speaker 15 And I just, in the NFL now, like that is not a formula you can't throw for 138 yards a game and win. You just can't.
And he's obviously dynamic, what he can do with his legs.

Speaker 15 And I don't know if you need to go to, hey, can you imagine maybe this guy takes an offseason and tries to be like a receiver or something?

Speaker 15 Because when he does have the ball in his hands, he's electric. But to your point, like, does it matter how many?

Speaker 15 I mean, we were talking about this a little bit out there, and it's just like, do you think any of these guys that we see in this upcoming draft class, or you can even do the next one, are you confident if the Jets were to take one of those guys, that who they have in place is going to be able to get that guy to a point where they can restore the franchise to where it was, what, 25, 30 years ago?

Speaker 15 Like, I don't think you can make that case right now. It seems like no matter who they get in there, they are doomed to fail.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and evaluation, I think, is a big piece of building your team, especially if you're planning on rebuilding your entire team.

Speaker 7 And I'm just saying there's been a couple of decisions we've already seen them make

Speaker 1 that seemingly not going the best.

Speaker 7 You know, there is, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news for the Jets for the future because I believe in Aaron Glenn. Mr.

Speaker 1 Moogie, you know, okay, I assume he's going to do a great name.

Speaker 7 I mean, Mooji is a great name. And he can certainly get bougie with Mooji, but it's like, we're going to find out.

Speaker 7 And this is the same way I was talking about Gootskoons, whenever I'm like, we're going to find out. When he hadn't made a lot of decisions, he decided to move on from Aaron.

Speaker 7 So this is not me just talking

Speaker 7 in a new fashion. It's just like, what do we know about this team? What do we know about this franchise? What do we know about this organization? Well, we know before these guys, not good.

Speaker 7 And with these guys, we're assuming going to be good just strictly because we believe in Aaron Glenn. Is that kind of why? Because I believe in Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 7 Is that why we're kind of believing in the right decisions being made? We see bad decisions made all the time, AJ. Like in the NFL, there's bad decisions made all the time.

Speaker 1 Every single day.

Speaker 7 And what if it happens again for the the Jets? Exactly.

Speaker 1 If you don't evaluate, you can build up all these picks you want.

Speaker 5 If you don't bring in the right people, you continue to set your whole franchise back another year.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 they got to figure something out pretty quick, I feel like.

Speaker 7 They're paying them $20 million this year, $10 million guaranteed next year, $30 million in total to be the quarterback for the Jets.

Speaker 7 And maybe they're just kind of looking to next year, and they have good eyes. We've been told and they'll be able to find the talent that maybe we can't.

Speaker 7 Speaking of the talent, we are standing in a state. I am standing in a stadium here.
That is obviously held a lot of talent on this ass grass field down there.

Speaker 7 I will say the grass field down here looks spectacular. I think the spray painters were probably out all night last night.
But on that note, this place is going to be electrifying tomorrow.

Speaker 7 And Connor, don't you have some stats on Pitt Football's history here as we get set up with the man that's been leading it for now 11 seasons at this point?

Speaker 7 Con man, this University of Pittsburgh, although, you know, hasn't hosted College Game Day on a Saturday for 20 years, and although they haven't, you know, maybe been in the national championship game in the last long time, they create legends around here, and they have won national championships here.

Speaker 7 And it feels like there's a little special thing brewing with this new QB. Conman, tell the people a little bit about the University of Pittsburgh football program, can you?

Speaker 8 Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 Pitt, we were kind of looking into it. First of all, I had no idea they had this many Hall of Famers.

Speaker 2 Tony Dorset, Larry Fitzgerald, Aaron Aaron Donald, Dan Marino, Mike Dicka, Bill Fralick, Mark May, LaShawn McCoy. Not sure if LaShawn McCoy's in the Hall of Fame just yet, but still, notable alumni.

Speaker 2 Curtis Martin, Tony Saragusa. No, I'm not just reading that for the first time.
Holy shit. Tony Saragusa went there.
Let's go. Darrell Rivis, James Conner, of course, still bringing it.

Speaker 2 Notable pit coaches, Pop Warner.

Speaker 1 Come on now.

Speaker 2 Everybody played Pop Warner. You guys know where it started, started in Pitt, baby.

Speaker 2 Nine national titles for the Pitt panthers top 20 in all time fbs wins 12th most college football hall of fame inductees i mean the the list kind of goes on and on and not to mention you know it's in the beautiful city of pittsburgh baby i i mean they're they share they share a facility With the Pittsburgh Steelers, that's kind of the coolest thing of all time when you're talking about college football teams and what you're trying to grow into a professional football player.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, Pitt Panthers don't look now, but they're kind of rolling, Hawker.

Speaker 5 Yeah, don't look now. Pat, what's up? I know you guys got set up there with another legend at Aquashur Stadium.
What's going on?

Speaker 7 Ladies and gentlemen, the man who has led this 7-2 number 23 ranked Pitt Panther football team this year and for the last 11 seasons, I believe, as a whole, head coach Pat Northesi.

Speaker 1 Yay!

Speaker 7 It was a little delay on the clap. I didn't like that either, Coach.

Speaker 2 How are you feeling, bud?

Speaker 7 I feel great. Huge weekend, it feels like, for your football program, but obviously just next weekend for you.
Is that the mindset?

Speaker 17 That is is the mindset. You know, it's just another game for us.
You know, we're excited. You know, we got a great team coming in here.
We got a great football team. Should be a great show tomorrow.

Speaker 7 Okay, so let's talk about what you said earlier in the week. You stepped in it a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got it.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 13 I am Italian.

Speaker 18 Yeah. Italian.

Speaker 17 You're going to step in it a little bit. I'm going to step in a little bit.
We step in it.

Speaker 13 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 I step in it all the time, but also you, I think what your intent was, what you would later say, is like, I wanted my team and everybody to know, like, hey, for us, our season is not derailed by whatever happens happens on Saturday.

Speaker 7 But obviously, national audience immediately hears that and goes, what is this guy even saying?

Speaker 7 How do you kind of get to the point of what your messaging is, what your mindset is, and how you're trying to kind of build a narrative each week?

Speaker 17 Hey, the most important thing is our football team. We've got a great football team.
The most important thing is our guys in that room, in our team room, and their belief.

Speaker 17 And I think our guys got a ton of belief in what we have ability-wise, you know, for tomorrow at noon. And that's the only thing that matters is what our kids think.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think so, too.

Speaker 7 We started chatting about it yesterday, and some of the boys at the talksing table actually said,

Speaker 7 Narduz said that. Narduz said.

Speaker 7 Narduz said that so that, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 7 Nardu said that because then Freeman's got to answer questions about winning 103 to 10. Was this a little, was this closed Sicilian?

Speaker 7 Were you potentially doing a little chess play here to put all the pressure on Notre Dame?

Speaker 17 You know what? I don't know. I have no idea.

Speaker 19 You know, I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 17 I'm just worried about what we do out on the field tomorrow.

Speaker 17 It's about executing one play at a time, and we'll get get it done hey listen you tell me i don't maybe i did do that uh little double aj hawk has a question for you coach back at the thunderdome yeah coach aj hawk yes hey let me first aj okay aj what's up coach coach d'antonio talked about you all the time oh he's the man coach d coach

Speaker 5 he loves you he loved you you were his man oh man i love coach d'antonio he scared me to death every single day of my life i played for him but i respected him i would i would die for that guy so i i appreciate that and appreciate what he is doing.

Speaker 5 But speaking of great defenses, Coach, your defense, especially stopping the run. You have some stud linebackers, obviously, and you guys do a great job of stopping the run.
Jeremiah Loves

Speaker 5 comes into town, I guess. What is it when you playing great run defense? What do you have to do? I always say there's no secret thing you can do.
It's just a gap sound.

Speaker 5 It's all the boring cliche stuff. But what do you guys do so well, and how do you continue to do that?

Speaker 17 You know, AJ, we do what we do. I think that's the main thing.
We're not going to change our defenses.

Speaker 17 I've seen some people change what they do structurally, you know, playing Notre Dame or some other great teams around the country.

Speaker 17 And the great thing is our guys get to go out and execute our defense and see how we match up against a great football team.

Speaker 17 We're going to play with three linebackers, as you talk. Kyle Lewis, Braylon Lovelace, Rasheen Biles will be ready to roll.
So we're excited to have him back. And

Speaker 17 we're going to go out and play defense. It starts with that front four.

Speaker 17 But we're a 4-3. We're not a 4-2-5.

Speaker 17 And we think Kyle Lewis could play safety. As you saw that one interception against Stanford, that was as good.
an interception as any DB could have.

Speaker 17 We're just going to go out and play our game.

Speaker 7 Okay, let's talk about your game. It certainly looked a little bit different on the offensive side.
AP Tone, Plum Native, who

Speaker 7 he's Duquesne guy. So you know how you've probably heard a couple things he has said, but he loves what you're doing on the offense in the last few weeks.
Go ahead, Tone.

Speaker 4 Yeah, coach, I do. Obviously, you start the season with Eli Holstein, and now you have Mason Heinschel come in, who is a true freshman.

Speaker 4 How, like, how early did you know in his career since, because I know I believe he enrolled early, was there, like, before coming into the season, did you know there was a chance he was going to play?

Speaker 4 Or, like, because Eli obviously had a great season last season. When did you know it was going to be Mason? And just talk about him a little bit, how incredible he's been as a true freshman.

Speaker 17 Yeah, he's done an incredible job. He's a heck of a competitor.
He's a preparer. No, but we didn't think we were going to play Mason this year.
We had, you know, total trust in Eli and still do.

Speaker 17 But we had a couple bad games and we had to try something to shake it up a little bit. And, you know, I could have looked like one of those Paisons making a bad decision.

Speaker 1 We don't like that.

Speaker 17 You know, and

Speaker 17 it worked out for us. We knew he was, when he came in, we're like, this guy's special.

Speaker 17 You know, the first time I saw him, he was our scout team quarterback in bowl practice, you know, before he even enrolled and took a class. We were like, whoa, you see him throw that ball.

Speaker 17 I mean, he can throw it. You know, he made our defense better in bowl practice.
And, you know, so we knew there was, you know,

Speaker 17 the ability to get it done. But, you know, did we know it was going to be this early? Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 Coach, we rattled off all the Hall of Famers out of the University of Pittsburgh. Obviously, all the deep history and tradition.
Feels like a lot of them coming back for this particular game.

Speaker 7 It's going to be a huge environment, not only because Aaron Donald's numbers getting retired at halftime, Tony Dorset's getting acknowledged.

Speaker 7 There's going to be everybody seemingly in the history of Pitt football here tomorrow in special. Ty has a question for you about all of that.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Coach, with all that in mind, is there any plan to have any of those guys maybe address the team or talk to them and kind of remind them about the history and like the excellence and tradition that Pitt has had.

Speaker 15 We saw the Steelers. This happened a couple weeks ago where Coach Cower came back and the 05 team was being recognized.
And we basically saw a new Steelers team on that Sunday.

Speaker 15 They looked unbelievable.

Speaker 15 And you could tell, you know, kind of being reminded of the history and the tradition from people who had done it at the highest level, it added a little extra juice for the game.

Speaker 15 Like, are there any plans for that going into obviously this massive tilt this weekend?

Speaker 17 Yeah, we've always got a plan. The first plan is, you know, Darrell Rivas is starting at the beginning of the game.

Speaker 18 So we're starting him at Mountain Corner.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 13 That's the first thing.

Speaker 17 Tony's going to come in and give me the old Heisman pose as well.

Speaker 18 We may get him a couple snaps as well.

Speaker 17 You know, Jimbo Covert, you know, all those guys. But

Speaker 17 to answer your question, we always have someone come in on game day,

Speaker 17 speak to our football team. We've done it for a long time.
I got that, AJ, you guys probably did it at Ohio State. Dan Tony got it from probably Jim Tressel.

Speaker 17 But we always have an honorary captain come speak to our team. So we've got

Speaker 17 an honorary captain coming in.

Speaker 17 I won't mention his name here because it's a special guest but uh we're excited about uh the new guy coming in you want me to break it to you today yeah tyler palco's coming in

Speaker 7 for you i'm gonna break it on i i appreciate you doing that and also i love tyler palco the palco family legendary football family in pittsburgh obviously he used to have the sick flow his left hand spin was outrageous and he's a great talker he'll go he'll keep that thing colorful tomorrow from my understanding he will he's kept it it colorful after a game, I think.

Speaker 17 He might have not played that, you know, his post-game. Do you remember his post-game?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's what we need tomorrow out of him, maybe.

Speaker 7 For a big one there. There was a stat that was sent over to me.
I think it was 2017. Miami came in here, number two ranked team.
They were like 12-point favorites or something like that.

Speaker 7 Obviously, Pitt ends up beating him. It was a massive upset.
Whenever you think about what's on the line tomorrow for the other team, you've already acknowledged it.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 A little bit too much, maybe.

Speaker 7 But whenever you think about what's on the line for the other team, do you tell the boys about that, about a spoiler possibility? Do you use it as motivation or is that something offering?

Speaker 17 Yeah, one game. We'll talk about it afterwards.
We've had some major upsets throughout. I mean, we went down in 2016 and beat Clemson at Clemson.
But what happened in the past doesn't really matter.

Speaker 17 This is 2025.

Speaker 17 What happened in 23 when we went to South Bend? What happened in 20? None of that's going to matter. I mean, Tony Dorset being here, that's not going to matter.

Speaker 17 It's going to be about what we do tomorrow.

Speaker 11 Well, Aaron Donald being here might have nothing.

Speaker 17 Aaron Donald, I forgot to tell you, he's starting too at those times.

Speaker 1 No, you got to

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 He's starting too.

Speaker 11 I forgot to mention it.

Speaker 7 I forgot those were, they got.

Speaker 17 But he's actually starting the second half after he gets his jersey retired, then he comes out.

Speaker 1 Oh, new number. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 17 we're trying to retire that after this game. We'll retire both his numbers.

Speaker 7 I love it. They got G-League players signing for college basketball now.
So you might be able to sign Aaron Donald, especially because he's going to be able to play forever.

Speaker 7 Now, speaking of Aaron Donald, I think he's given back massively to the program, if I'm not mistaken. Connor has a question for you about all of that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Coach, first of all, I had no idea Bill Goldberg was was an alumni of the Pitt Panthers.

Speaker 8 I didn't realize his jersey was hanging in those rafters.

Speaker 2 Pretty cool. But one thing that's kind of different, you know, we mentioned before is that how you guys share a facility with the Steelers.

Speaker 2 Is there any, you know, advantages that you see on a day-to-day basis with that kind of process?

Speaker 2 I mean, playing in, you know, Ackersher Stadium, formerly known as Heinz Field, that also just being around their facility, kind of seeing how they operate. What are the advantages?

Speaker 2 And do you have any aspirations for wanting Pitt to have their own stadium, their own facilities, or do you enjoy kind of the camaraderie and togetherness of sharing it with the Steelers?

Speaker 17 Yeah, Connor, you know,

Speaker 17 the ability to practice next to Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers is absolutely probably one of the biggest advantages we have at Pittsburgh.

Speaker 17 You know, in the summer, our guys will be out there watching their team practice. We get to watch the tempo.
Recruits come in and watch what we do there with the Steelers.

Speaker 17 You know, we're out there on the field at the same exact time practicing. You know, They're on one end.
You know, Mike Tomlins walking down seeing what we're doing.

Speaker 17 You know, we're walking off the field watching what they're doing.

Speaker 17 I think it's a major advantage if all of our guys want to play in the National Football League, but for our guys to go watch how it's done at the next level at the same facility.

Speaker 17 And as a coach, I mean, it's special for us. I mean,

Speaker 17 whether it's OTAs, we're out on that, we've got a patio over looking to practice.

Speaker 17 We can walk out there, see what they're doing, whether it's special teams, offense, defense, and just pick up different things.

Speaker 17 My first year here, I remember sitting at my desk looking out the window.

Speaker 17 All of a sudden, I saw him doing down and punts inside, or yeah, punts inside the 10-yard line, and watching him out there with a volleyball. It's like, what a heck of an idea.

Speaker 17 I mean, you talk about just those little things that you can pick up as a football coach. It comes down to the details and the little things.
Certainly.

Speaker 17 But they were using a volleyball, which is going to bounce better for you, so at least you can practice and have success down in that ball. I thought, what a great idea.

Speaker 17 So, I mean, there's all kinds of things. That was one of the first things I picked by just looking out my window, and I'm like, you know, getting off the phone, running out on the patio to watch more.

Speaker 7 Hey, maybe I should be watching these guys practice. Maybe Tomlin's got to figure it out.
Maybe the NFL does. Let's talk about your team and figuring it out.

Speaker 7 Obviously, when Kenny Pickett was quarterback, I think he's the last time you guys won the ACC. You're still in it right now.
The ACC is wide-ass open.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Notre Dame.

Speaker 17 We play Notre Dame tomorrow, Pat.

Speaker 19 Get will you get locked in?

Speaker 17 Like, you're worried about the next tap.

Speaker 1 We're worried about just one football team. Come on, man.
No, no, but it didn't sound like that from the earlier.

Speaker 17 In the past, were you thinking about the next game?

Speaker 11 No, no, sure.

Speaker 1 I just want to make sure.

Speaker 13 When you played.

Speaker 1 Well, I just want want to for okay, so

Speaker 7 winning the ACC for the Pitt program would obviously be gigantic.

Speaker 7 Right now, in the world that we're in, I think you tell me more, actually, because we're in this modern NIL recruiting world that we're in.

Speaker 7 I think having success is a great thing in the modern world, especially trying to get this younger generation that understands brands and business and everything more than ever.

Speaker 7 It feels like NIL, Pitt's going to be in a good spot. I mean, we just mentioned Aaron Donald.
He's given back immensely.

Speaker 7 He's getting his number retired, and he's a college game day guest picker and I think he has like a part of the locker room that he is giving back. NIL, good.

Speaker 7 Transfer portal stuff, easy because you're in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 You talk about tradition. If you win a championship, that's even like what is the modern world for Pitt whenever it comes to recruiting and finding players?

Speaker 7 And how much do ACC championships and shit like that matter over maybe all the others?

Speaker 17 Yeah, winning every weekend certainly matters. I mean, it's your brand.
We still have our Pitt brand. I think, you know, what we do as coaches, we develop players.

Speaker 17 I don't know if anybody's developed a football team like we have. I think we've done it with Les and Pittsburgh and all that NIL stuff is great.
I want guys that love football.

Speaker 17 We're going to take that lesser guy, maybe the guy that's not making as much or got two stars or three stars and develop them.

Speaker 17 I mean, look at Ekalijah Cancey and Servasier Dennis, some of the guys that have gone, Kenny Pickett. I mean, I think Kenny made peanuts when he was here.
It was the first year of NIL.

Speaker 17 But guys that love football is the key. And winning a championship, we've won one.
I think there's only been three teams win an ACC championship in the last 15 years.

Speaker 17 Clemson, obviously, Florida State, and Pitt. So we've done it.
We've been there.

Speaker 18 But we're going to take it one time, you know, one play at a time and one game at a time.

Speaker 7 You guys have been paying players for a long time up here, haven't you?

Speaker 17 Back in the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know.

Speaker 13 Back in the day, they did.

Speaker 17 They did not give you enough for that.

Speaker 1 Well, they didn't offer me anything.

Speaker 7 But now I'm starting to think maybe that one game, I think you remember, 13-9, maybe they should throw that out. Maybe we should get a win for that.
Maybe.

Speaker 7 Because you guys are paying players around here. I'm going to investigate that.
I'm going to get to the bottom of it. I want to let you know that.
But I love the way your team plays.

Speaker 7 You always have a hard-nosed team. I think that is something you would like your team to have, obviously.
You say you're looking for guys that love ball.

Speaker 7 Being tough too feels an obligation from Pittsburgh. Is that an accurate depiction?

Speaker 17 Yeah, we talk about attitude, effort, and toughness. And, you know, that effort and toughness is critical.
I mean, we want to be a tough team. Whatever happens on that field tomorrow,

Speaker 17 you know, when people walk off the field, they're going to get hit by Pitt.

Speaker 1 That's kind of a bar.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Hit by Pitt.
That's kind of, I don't know if I can really say it that often in my life.

Speaker 17 Look at that. That hit right there.

Speaker 7 Hit by Pitt. Biles, he's back.

Speaker 8 Look at that. Look at that catch.

Speaker 7 Is this a Biles highlight tape here today? It certainly is.

Speaker 7 It's a defensive highlight, I think, for you guys. Absolutely.

Speaker 17 So we are a tough football team. We know what to do.
We play fast. Try to keep it simple and let our guys go.

Speaker 7 Go ahead and hunt a little bit. AJ has the last question for you here, Coach.
Yeah, Coach.

Speaker 13 All right, AJ.

Speaker 5 You mentioned recruiting these tough guys that love football. How do you know?

Speaker 5 Is it tougher now to figure out if somebody truly does love ball with all the NIL situation and the money floating around?

Speaker 17 You're exactly right. I mean, I think that's part of the evaluation.
That's part of those phone calls that you constantly have. What's important to a kid, just digging into who they are.

Speaker 17 You know, I'll say this.

Speaker 17 You know, when we get in conversations our coaches are in schools talking to guys when the first thing comes up is is money and what are you gonna pay me probably not a pit guy okay I want someone to tell me who's gonna coach me who's gonna develop me to me those are important things there's time to make money in the National Football League and obviously you know I love that we can give our kids money now and NIL and RevShare

Speaker 17 but you know you know that's all great but we want guys that want to go out and play football win championships I'll say this coach I didn't expect you to have Air Force ones on when you walked in hey it looks pretty small my equipment guy's good now Yeah, yeah, you look pretty.

Speaker 1 You look good. Hey, you look good.

Speaker 7 Not enough sauce, I think, for the pies on that you have. Maybe a pinky ring for Tamara if you want to take down the Irish.
You know, Tamara's biggest.

Speaker 1 Pinky ring, will you have an extra one for me? Maybe a lucky one.

Speaker 7 I'll get you one. Yeah, I'll get you.

Speaker 1 You'll be a lucky one.

Speaker 7 I used to wear one. I had a 0.01% Italian in me.
23 of me told me that, so I felt like I could really do all the shit. I had a pinky ring.
I put one on two chains. I did it all.
You know, you get it.

Speaker 17 You understand. I get it.
I know.

Speaker 19 Well, I want to let you guys know.

Speaker 1 You got to do it.

Speaker 19 Right there.

Speaker 17 No horn. I used to have a horn.
I think I lost that in the ocean one summer, you know?

Speaker 1 The oceans now, yeah?

Speaker 7 Wording off evil spirits.

Speaker 2 Basketball team might need one.

Speaker 7 Look at Nardeuz. Let's not go there.
Did you hear about last night?

Speaker 17 No, I did not. I've been locked in.
I'm focused.

Speaker 7 Oh, let me update you. Yeah.
West Virginia, guess what we're doing?

Speaker 1 We're smacking that block. I mean, we are.
We're bopping wood. We're tough.

Speaker 7 Hey, we're a tough outfit. West Virginia, we're a tough outfit.

Speaker 18 Did Bob Huggins come back last night? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll fuck out.

Speaker 18 You know, I tried to hire Bob Huggins at Youngstown State.

Speaker 1 Hey, Betty, hey, let me just tell you this.

Speaker 17 It's about finishing. You know, it's not a one-game season.

Speaker 17 It's about finishing. You can win a big game, but can you compete and do it week in and week out? Pitt does that.

Speaker 16 All right.

Speaker 7 We appreciate you, Coach.

Speaker 19 I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Speaker 1 You did. We beat you.

Speaker 17 You didn't beat us. We beat ourselves, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 Go put the videotape on.

Speaker 17 Go put the video on.

Speaker 1 We won. You did that note? You did.

Speaker 17 Game day. They don't call legal procedures anymore.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Nick.

Speaker 7 We won having Game Day come here. Feels like the city is alive and excited for tomorrow morning.
We can't wait to experience it. Thank you for the hospitality, brother.
We very much appreciate it.

Speaker 17 You got it. Where are you going to dinner tonight? Where's your special spot in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 7 So I eat Rudy Subs every time I come back. Also, Dallas.

Speaker 8 That's for lunch.

Speaker 7 What are you having for dinner? So Serafinos, maybe? I might stop by there. Is that your spot?

Speaker 17 That's my spot now. I can get you reservations because they probably won't let you in, but I'll get you reservations for you.

Speaker 1 Just let me know.

Speaker 7 I've been in there under somebody else's reservation. I have been in there.
The guy that owns that. Joey.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 7 He's making it, and then he's delivering it, and then he's telling me where Bill Carr's from right down the street. I love that place.

Speaker 17 Yeah, that's a great place. That's my speaker.
That's your spot. That's one of my spots.
I got plenty of spots. There's so many great places out here.

Speaker 8 So many.

Speaker 19 There's everywhere.

Speaker 17 This is the best spot to eat food.

Speaker 14 I can guarantee you that.

Speaker 17 That's why I love Pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 There's Italians everywhere. So I go out to Indiana.

Speaker 17 Nothing. No Italian.
East Lansing. Nothing.

Speaker 6 It's a culture shock.

Speaker 1 It is. It was an

Speaker 1 I. I'm sure it was.

Speaker 7 I go from Pittsburgh. Exactly.
Fazzolis, he just said. Like, Olvesgarden is the closest.

Speaker 1 Great graveyard.

Speaker 17 We got Bravo in East Lansing. That was it.

Speaker 7 And Fuka de Pepo started showing up.

Speaker 7 I'm telling you, in Pittsburgh and then West Virginia as well, Morgantown, Italians everywhere. So you just assume that you can get a good something.

Speaker 17 I'm never eating a meal down there. I don't think I ever will.

Speaker 1 I'll get poisoned

Speaker 13 trying to kill me. No, I think.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think it's a good idea.

Speaker 7 It's not back. You know, we got that hard edge.
I know you're trying to do an hard edge. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 13 I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Coach.

Speaker 5 I tell you what, I appreciate Coach's passion, his energy. He's pretty pumped up for this game against Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 And I know there's a bunch of other good games, Tone, that we see as we pop up the slate of college football games popping up this weekend. Tone, what's the most intriguing game here for you?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Narduzi's a great fit. But all of these, like starting Notre Dame at Pitt, if Notre Dame loses, they are out of the college football playoff most likely.

Speaker 4 USF and Navy, the winner of that one is first place in the American, which is most likely going to be the conference that gets the 12 seed for the college football playoff outside of the group of five or whatever.

Speaker 4 Virginia at Duke, the winner of that, most likely going to make the ACC championship game.

Speaker 4 Iowa and USC, that's USC has got to win to keep the chances most likely for the Big Ten to get a fourth Big Ten team in there.

Speaker 4 And then those other two, those two SEC games, the Oklahoma and Texas, I believe they're ranked 11 and 12 right now or 10 and 11 right now, if I'm not mistaken, in the college football playoff.

Speaker 4 So if they win, they jump up. If not, they can potentially come out and other teams could get in and then Alabama and Georgia would just solidify their spot in the playoff.

Speaker 4 All those games have huge playoff implications this weekend.

Speaker 5 Yeah, a lot of teams that they have to win or they, yeah, or their playoff hopes are dashed, I guess. I think, I don't know if Pat is still talking to Coach Narduzi.

Speaker 5 I like the Nard Edge trying to think about that Nard Edge.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he does have some Nard Dog in him, but it's crazy seeing that college football play pop up and it's week 12.

Speaker 13 Like the season really is flying by.

Speaker 2 It's awesome that we're here because it's the most important. But I mean shit,

Speaker 6 football is flying right now.

Speaker 5 It goes way too fast, Pat, I believe. Coach Narduz got back with the squad.

Speaker 2 Hey, he was bringing it today, Pat.

Speaker 5 Were you surprised at how juiced he was for this game?

Speaker 7 Every time he's been on the show, he's been great on the show. You know, and I forget how Italian he is.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, that is the perfect coach for this city, I would say. And I appreciated how he kind of laid it out.
Hey, we're looking to develop guys, you know, two three-star guys.

Speaker 7 Let's go ahead and build them. Let's go ahead and get after it.
I appreciate where he's at. Him saying the 100 to 10 thing, I think, was potentially a little

Speaker 7 bit more. Hey, go ask Freeman if they win by 100 to 10.
Go ahead and ask him. Yeah, put that on his tape.
Yeah, they should win 1 to 10. They're a very good team.
Yep. All right.
Go ask him about it.

Speaker 7 And then have their players hear that as well. And then have Notre Dame think to themselves, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whenever he said to me, I don't know, maybe you tell me. I'm like, wait, Narduz.

Speaker 7 I'd be giving Narduz a lot of credit doing that.

Speaker 2 Italians are good at that gamesmanship.

Speaker 7 Maybe they are. And him saying, oh, I got so many spots around town.

Speaker 1 He loves it.

Speaker 7 He's been to every Italian place in town every single day. I love it.
And this game is going to be gigantic.

Speaker 7 Literally, every, I think every person that is alive that has their name in this building is going to be here. Like, not just University of Pittsburgh guys.

Speaker 7 I think there's a bunch of Steelers coming, too, because obviously Bus,

Speaker 1 Jerome Bettis, Notre Dame guy.

Speaker 7 And I think Jerome Bettis has a couple of events happening, like fundraisers. So I think all his teammates are potentially coming as well.
So, like, I think it's going to be a,

Speaker 7 I don't know, from my understanding, this is going to be a Pittsburgh football,

Speaker 7 just everything basically in here. And that's incredible.
Yeah, I can't wait to kind of wake up tomorrow and see what it's like.

Speaker 4 If I'm not mistaken either, I believe his son is a wide receiver on Notre Dame. I think he got his first catch last weekend.

Speaker 4 Then I believe Ike's kid, Ike Taylor kid, is still on Notre Dame as well. So the ties are, there's a lot of ties tomorrow between the Steelers and those two two schools.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 it should be pretty electrifying here in the city of Pittsburgh. I cannot wait to try to eat all the food that is going to be sent my way.

Speaker 7 I mean, there's a lot of Italians reaching out saying, hey, we got a little...

Speaker 5 Yeah, I assume you're going to get a bunch of meat delivered to Game Day set tomorrow, right?

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 7 tomorrow's food deliveries will be...

Speaker 1 Pretty epic.

Speaker 5 Second, you know, feed and saving, you know, Tomahawk steaks again, or, you know, all of it.

Speaker 7 Pittsburgh, brother.

Speaker 8 Hey. Can't do Tomahawks there.

Speaker 7 Tomahawk steaks, you just said? I mean, we certainly can do steaks. If you would like us to do meat, we can do meat.

Speaker 7 I don't know if that's what you like, but you got to remember who, what is this entire speaker?

Speaker 5 Put some pasta on the side or something. You could spoon it.

Speaker 5 You could twirl it in the spoon for them and put your hand under it and feed it. You know how people do that?

Speaker 7 I will do the big spoon with the twisty soup.

Speaker 1 Please don't put your finger in there.

Speaker 5 The hand underneath the fork thing, that just makes me crazy for some reason.

Speaker 6 They don't want to drop it.

Speaker 5 You know, if someone's like, you see people on movies trying to feed somebody and they put their little hand under the dump spoon?

Speaker 6 Yeah, they don't want to hear it drop.

Speaker 5 Or the fork, you know, they don't want to, they don't want to spill anything on the table.

Speaker 1 You see people feeding each other a lot.

Speaker 2 That's like, yeah, on movies and shows I do.

Speaker 5 Yeah, of course. Like, get your stupid hand out from underneath the fork.

Speaker 1 If it falls on the table, I'll wipe it up.

Speaker 7 You seeing somebody, you seeing somebody put their fingers over their nose when they jump into a pool.

Speaker 1 Oh, don't do that.

Speaker 7 You accidentally see somebody doing this in a movie.

Speaker 5 I don't like seeing the visual right now of you doing it, honestly. That's one of those, it's like nails on the chalkboard to me.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but you know, like the person that's doing that is trying to portray, like, I care, like I care a lot. You know, like that is what that is for.
And you get disgusted.

Speaker 5 I think it's somebody saying, hey, I'm a little big dog you here. Here we go.
I'm the king here. I'm your master.

Speaker 1 And they feed him. I can't wait.
Oh, you're talking about like scaffold with that taco.

Speaker 15 I was just going to say, I cannot wait until we are at the next thing where we all have a meal together and everyone does that to you all night long.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to be smacking sports all around.

Speaker 19 Smacking forces and spaghetti out of here.

Speaker 1 Hey, who's the big boy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 8 All right, I'm going to do that tomorrow.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 Let's do it to Saban. I want to see what Sabin does.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I can't wait. Okay, let's talk about some news happening around the NFL here before hour one wraps up.
I'm live from Ackershare Field, right? Is it Ackersher Stadium or Ackershare Field?

Speaker 7 Ackershare Stadium.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, there it says on on the thing.

Speaker 2 So, what's the field? Poop Field?

Speaker 7 Heinz Field. Heinz Field.

Speaker 7 And just like I said, I don't think there's any Heinz bottles in here. Remember, that was a big thing.
Oh, yeah. Are they going to keep

Speaker 1 it? Is Heinz still got Austin or not?

Speaker 4 They still got 84 lumber.

Speaker 8 So that's huge.

Speaker 7 Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 7 UPMC, obviously, still doing it, still bringing it. UPMC, huge for, oh, I guess I could do this number here, I think.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, PTZ. Oh, no,

Speaker 8 that's on that.

Speaker 16 Yeah, and I'm not on the wide. Let me go ahead and figure this one out.
Boom. Yeah, brother.
Yeah, brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah, brother. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, you see the Ford fan zone there, and then obviously you see the.

Speaker 7 So right in that area back there used to be a Heinz bottle that people were just celebrated with.

Speaker 8 Yeah, right on top of this.

Speaker 22 Right on top.

Speaker 16 Damn.

Speaker 1 Now it's Ford.

Speaker 7 Now it's Acrosher, which we all know what that is. The glass building that's standing tall above, that is in every single photo of the city of Pittsburgh is PPG.

Speaker 7 Obviously, that is

Speaker 7 an incredible building. Glass.
They said people marveled at the architecture when that thing was pieced together, they said. And then bridges, you know, that's on that Jumbotron right there.

Speaker 7 We have the most bridges of any city in the world, I believe.

Speaker 7 Even Venice counting. Is that accurate? I believe so.

Speaker 4 I believe so.

Speaker 7 We have the most bridges in the world here in Pittsburgh, obviously, because our city is surrounded by rivers. Two of them lead into one.
The Allegheny and the Monongahela lead into Ohio.

Speaker 7 So we basically birthed that state. You're welcome, A.J.
Hawk.

Speaker 7 And that is, and let alone steel, we built every city as well here. So we have a lot of pride, the people from Pittsburgh, in the city of Pittsburgh.
But not everybody in Pittsburgh are Pitt fans.

Speaker 16 There's actually some people within the city of Pittsburgh who don't like Pitt, like actually hate Pitt.

Speaker 19 and

Speaker 16 tone diggs is one of them tone would you like to speak on that a little bit more potentially how the city and the university within the city have an interesting relationship and when you say pitt you're talking about the university when you say pittsburgh you're talking about the city so people say let's go to pitt this weekend and watch the steelers no

Speaker 16 that would be the university you would be heading to the city is pittsburgh the school is pitt so there is quite a dilemma in the city about all of that and there's a lot of pitt people right to my left.

Speaker 1 Like, I think that hears it.

Speaker 16 So that is why I'm talking like this. I don't think they can hear me, but that is a very real thing in the city of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 16 Can you back me up on that a little bit?

Speaker 6 Yes, I can back you up.

Speaker 4 Pittsburghers, it drives them crazy when people call the city Pitt because that's the university. The city is Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 But no, there's a lot of college football fans in the city, and they are divided between Pitt, Penn State, West Virginia, Ohio State, mostly because

Speaker 4 Duquesne, obviously, there's a huge fan base for Bobby Moe, Dukes as well, Bobby Moe, all of those, Carnegie Mellon.

Speaker 4 But like Penn State, West Virginia, Pitt, Ohio State, all within three hours. So like there is huge fan bases of all of those schools.

Speaker 4 So it's not like, hey, just because the college is in the city means that everyone in the city is huge fans of the University of Pitt. No,

Speaker 4 there's a lot of different other college football, you know, fan bases in the city.

Speaker 7 And, you know, now on that note, on that note, Tone, every one of us know a lot of Pitt people. Oh, yeah, yeah.
So we all know pit people, but not everybody is pit people, if that makes sense.

Speaker 7 I don't know. And I think tomorrow, from what my understanding is, game day, potentially going to be a football celebration.
I know Pitt's going to show up. I know the Pitt fans are going to show up.

Speaker 7 I can't wait to see the Pitt fans. I'm excited for that kind of banter, actually.
I'm pretty pumped up to see them on a spotlight. But I think a lot of Pittsburgh people are just coming for football.

Speaker 7 I think you're going to see a lot of Yensers just for football celebration tomorrow.

Speaker 7 And I think that's kind of what should be talked about because the University of Pittsburgh represents a city that is football like this is football town like that that is 100% what it is throwing through so tomorrow should be epic AJ is what I'm thinking and it's a it's a professional sports town and I just got word from a source one of the Heinz bottles is down in the Great Hall, which is underneath the stands in the stadium

Speaker 5 where all the like the underneath so we can't see it?

Speaker 4 No, the Great Hall, you walk through it when you walk through, I believe it's gate, that's not gate A, gate B or C on the

Speaker 11 they buried it, that's what I heard.

Speaker 8 No, no, and then they put the other one

Speaker 4 in the Heinz Museum. So, sorry.

Speaker 5 I mean, I didn't help the Steelers.

Speaker 1 I don't see it.

Speaker 23 I heard they remember getting a red gold bottle in there.

Speaker 1 Ooh, shut up.

Speaker 1 Shut your mouth.

Speaker 7 That is one thing that we all agree on, okay? We all agree on that in the entire city, whether you're a pit person or not.

Speaker 7 The fact that there is even other ketchups available

Speaker 7 is scary. That's a scary thing for society.
So

Speaker 7 you get your red gold bullshit confusing.

Speaker 1 Hey, I didn't say it.

Speaker 2 I don't like red gold.

Speaker 15 I hate when we go around here somewhere. You go to a nice restaurant.
You sit down. You want some ketchup with your french fries.

Speaker 1 Oh, let me get some hunts.

Speaker 15 Oh, nope. That's red gold.
I'd rather piss on the side of my plate and dunk it in this stuff. So I don't love it either.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying what I've heard.

Speaker 15 Oh, you love it. See?

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 7 Here's your guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'd much rather dip it in red gold or hunts than urine.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's just common sense.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 I figured you'd be with the one guy who

Speaker 15 soak him up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 7 But I think it's just a part of it. You know, I think it's a part of being from here.
Very proud of the Heinz catch up and everything that Heinz has done. So, yeah, I move out to Indiana.

Speaker 7 I think Red Gold's actually from Indiana. I believe it is.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 7 back before anybody, I mean, I had a little bit of a following on Twitter around Indianapolis. Pretty good.
It was a pretty strong following around Indianapolis on Twitter.

Speaker 7 And I walked to someplace and I had Red Gold in front of me and I put a a tweet out. I was like, this is disgusting.

Speaker 1 What are we even doing here?

Speaker 7 And I get called into the Colts office. You know, Red Gold's big sponsor, great sponsor of the Colts.
And they were wondering if I would change it. And I, nope,

Speaker 7 they're not a sponsor of mine. If your guys' Twitter account wants to say they're good.
Sweet. You go ahead and do that.

Speaker 7 They haven't given me anything except for nausea when I see them on a table or whatever. And go all the way up to Jim.
You know, Jim was asked to talk to me about it.

Speaker 7 And Jim goes, brother, can you just not kill him? Like,

Speaker 7 you can

Speaker 7 just, just don't kill him.

Speaker 1 Imagine the owner being brought there.

Speaker 5 Like, that comes to the owner's desk. That's the best.
Hey, we got, you know, Pat's just, Pat's killing one of our catch-up sponsors. You got to talk to him.

Speaker 7 Our only, they're from Indiana. They got Coach logos all over the catch-up bottles.
They're in the entire facility. I think I actually took a picture in the facility.

Speaker 7 That was before I really knew business, you know, like, oh, they're probably paying to be in here if I had to guess.

Speaker 7 So I took a picture of that thing, like, yuck, I can't believe this world feed professional has it.

Speaker 1 And And it turns out they're from India.

Speaker 7 We like to thank them for their catch-up fanhood of Heinz.

Speaker 7 Being a fan of Heinz and trying to honor them by creating their catch-up. But on that note, I ain't doing it ever.
Not if I'm paying for it. Ty, huge things happened in baseball last night.

Speaker 7 Congratulations. First time back-to-back MVPs in both leagues.
Is that accurate? And Aaron Judge and Shohei having the seasons that they had going into the year, these are the two biggest stars.

Speaker 7 Then boom, they back it up for baseball. Everything up into the right MLB-wise, especially with these two winning the MVP? Or what are your thoughts, Ty?

Speaker 15 Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, this is kind of the perfect scenario if you are Major League Baseball.
You hope that the two biggest stars in the league could be the MVPs.

Speaker 15 Shohei was kind of a runaway in the NL.

Speaker 15 Very hard-pressed to find another guy who would even, you know, maybe be mentioned in the same sentence with him. It's kind of what he's doing year after year now.

Speaker 15 That's his fourth MVP award already, which is crazy. I don't think it's nuts to say that like, you know, Barry Bonds had seven MVPs in his career.

Speaker 15 Shohei could, you know, I mean, this guy could win 10 MVPs. It seems like he's got a pretty solid path to potentially winning one every year.

Speaker 15 And then in the AL, that was where there was a lot of kind of discussion, and it ended up being one of the closest votes ever. Judgy, Aaron Judge, ultimately did win the MVP.

Speaker 15 This is his third MVP award, and like you mentioned, back-to-back. And he got 17 first place votes and 13 of the second place votes.
And Cal Rowley flipped that around.

Speaker 15 But if one voter would have flipped these guys around, it would have been a tie. And a lot of people were saying, hey, Cal Rowley should win this award.
You know, historic season, unbelievable.

Speaker 15 And while that is true, I was a little surprised he didn't win it. I just asked Gertie.

Speaker 15 I just said, hey, could you just, you know, just maybe put their stats side by side so we can kind of put this thing to rest. So you'll see Cal Rowley, yes, he did hit more homers.

Speaker 8 He did have.

Speaker 7 That's his game. That's the game.

Speaker 1 That is the home.

Speaker 7 Home runs bring the tickets.

Speaker 1 That home runs bring the views.

Speaker 1 Who had more? Yep, exactly.

Speaker 15 Now, granted, he didn't hit 20 more than Judge. He hit seven more.
And, you know, so it's not that bad.

Speaker 15 And you see down there, if you go down a little bit more, Judge's batting average was about 100 points higher. He did win the batting title.

Speaker 15 He's the first person to post a batting average, an on-base percentage, and a slugging percentage of that magnitude since Barry Bonds, who a lot of people think is the best player of all time.

Speaker 15 And listen, right, wrong, or indifferent, whether you like it, the MVP is kind of like the MVP in the NFL. It always, you know, it's going to go to a quarterback.

Speaker 15 In this case, it pretty much goes to the best hitter. That's just how it goes.
So a lot of people were saying, well, why don't you account for Cal Rowley catching and all?

Speaker 2 He didn't win a gold glove.

Speaker 15 He obviously adds a lot of value for his team, but when you look at Judge's numbers, like if you don't give it to him, it is just because it's fatigue. Like he is the best hitter in baseball.

Speaker 15 Now, Shohei is the best player in baseball.

Speaker 7 On which side of the plate?

Speaker 1 On which side? On one side?

Speaker 7 That seems like pretty easy. Imagine if Kyle Rowley just won on one side of the plate.
That'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 23 Yeah, it would be.

Speaker 15 And, you know, he'd probably do decent. Now, granted, you know, I don't know if he just hit on one side of the plate.

Speaker 15 If he's going to raise that batting average 100 points, that's a pretty fucking big margin when it comes to that. But no, Cal Raleigh had an unbelievable season.

Speaker 15 Judge is just one of the best five-hitters of all time.

Speaker 7 And on that note, both Cal Raleigh, Shohei, and Aaron Judge came on our show. So we're very thankful to all of them.
And Aaron Judge, congrats, brother.

Speaker 7 I am just clearly talking shit to Ty Schmidt in this particular case. Aaron's a dog, and I'm very thankful for the season he had for the good of sport.
Same with Shohei and Cal Raleigh.

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Speaker 7 Welcome back, outward to the Pat McAfee Show.

Speaker 26 I'm AJ Hawks sitting in for Pat here in Indianapolis, Indiana. Pat's in Pittsburgh, Notre Dame, Pitt.

Speaker 5 Big matchup, boys.

Speaker 27 Pat, you mentioned something. I'm sorry.
You mentioned something. As we were coming back, you got a situation going on over there? What's happening? It sounds like something's on the loose.

Speaker 28 There's nothing happening over here, AJ. There's nothing happening over here.
It's more so where you guys are.

Speaker 28 I don't know if you know this, but Fox 59 News in Indianapolis is reporting that there is a chimpanzee on the loose at the zoo currently.

Speaker 28 Okay, now listen, these chimps are certainly a fantastic creature.

Speaker 28 When you look at them, you think to yourself, wow, that might be a damn human, just a little miniature version of it, but goddamn, it's going to be stronger than any human could ever be.

Speaker 28 So if you're around the Indianapolis zoo area, don't only look on the ground, look in the sky. These things are great climbers.

Speaker 21 That chimp could be already in Ohio.

Speaker 28 We have no idea. Now, Fox 59 is obviously breaking the news down.
We appreciate them doing that, but you guys need to be on a lookout for the Thunderdome. We need no wires to be chewed on.

Speaker 28 We need nothing to be pulled out. We have no idea where this chimpanzee is going to head to.
Let's make sure we have that place on lockdown.

Speaker 28 Maybe have Bill on night watch tonight outside, sitting on the roof. Anything like that? Let's not take this for granted that there is a chimpanzee on the loose.

Speaker 28 Now, Zito just sent a text into the group asking if we should send Mitt. I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 28 I think we should send Don Check. Yeah, what's Mitt was soft, dude?

Speaker 21 Great movie.

Speaker 28 They said they need you back in there.

Speaker 21 Don't check it was a great thing.

Speaker 21 Great movie. Your dad and Bill are going hunting tomorrow, so I think they have the rifles on them.
So if they want to get started early,

Speaker 29 don't shoot the chimpanzee. Run, chimpanzee.
We've seen those conditions.

Speaker 21 You need to run!

Speaker 29 Get out of here, chimpanzee.

Speaker 21 Go on now.

Speaker 21 You're talking about the orangutans. Yeah, free them too.

Speaker 28 Now, to be clear, the Indianapolis Zoo is a very good zoo. They spend a lot of money on preservation of animals and yada yada, you know, all that stuff.
They take care of a lot of stuff.

Speaker 28 Visitors say chimp on the loose at Indiana Zoo. Fire crews called for animal bite.

Speaker 21 Okay.

Speaker 28 Well, we don't know. We don't know what's being real.
This Fox 59 news reported, I will say I have

Speaker 28 a lot of respect for the people that run that zoo. Private zoo, no state money.
They run it themselves. It's a wonderful zoo and obviously great for our community.

Speaker 28 But chimpanzee on the loose needs to be,

Speaker 28 I've seen dealt with.

Speaker 29 Whenever it

Speaker 28 the Indianapolis zoo says the loose chimp has been sedated and safely recaptured. Okay.

Speaker 28 No staff gas chimp were injured and the zoo has since been recaptured.

Speaker 21 We got him. We got him.

Speaker 21 So he was loose. Oh my god.

Speaker 27 He was loose for 12 minutes or what happened?

Speaker 21 I don't know.

Speaker 29 In chimpanzee minutes, that's two years.

Speaker 31 Long enough to go get some RPG from the basement of the zoo and safely get it back to where he needs to go.

Speaker 28 I'm happy, though, that they got Caesar.

Speaker 21 You know, and

Speaker 28 when you get Caesar back, it feels like you get the entire flock. What are the monkeys? Group of monkeys called?

Speaker 21 Cackle.

Speaker 21 A murder. Pride.
Crow. A collective.
That's a line. A collective.
A collective.

Speaker 28 Because they're humans, obviously. They're like the committee and the committee of the committees.
I appreciate that they're back.

Speaker 28 It's a beautiful Friday here from Pittsburgh as tomorrow Notre Dame and Pitt will play. Notre Dame needs a win to continue their national championship hopes.

Speaker 28 And tomorrow for Pitt will be an absolutely insane scene.

Speaker 28 Jerome Bettis, obviously, living legend in Pittsburgh for what the bus was able to do when his Super Bowl in his own hometown is retirement game up there in Detroit.

Speaker 28 He's coming back, obviously, because he's Notre Dame legend, has a lot of events around, so we assume that entire team is going to be back representing as well.

Speaker 28 And then for the University of Pittsburgh, Aaron Donald will have his number retired at halftime, so all the Pitt Grades are going to be here as well.

Speaker 28 Should be a fantastic weekend of ball, and college football is going to do great. I think Sunday is going to be spectacular.

Speaker 28 And last night, we had a great game to kick it all off for week 11 up there in New England. Drake May and this New England Patriots team.

Speaker 28 Trace Vion Henderson, running back out of Ohio State, goes for three touchdowns. Drake May almost has a perfect night.
Stephon Diggs has over 100 yards.

Speaker 28 Will Campbell and the other rookie playing left guard named Jared Wilson.

Speaker 28 is an absolute beast. Brabel, obviously supreme commander on the defensive side, after giving up a touchdown on the first drive, basically shut it down for the rest of the way.

Speaker 28 Huge night for Patriots fans to celebrate.

Speaker 28 Anything we're missing there, Con Man, that hasn't been talked about enough about last night's AFC East battle where the New England Patriots say we're the best team once again in this division?

Speaker 29 I think just to hammer home the buy-in from the entire team, Fox, if you actually go to the start of the video of Rabel dapping everybody up and just pause it, Milton Williams, who is the highest paid player in the history of the New England Patriots, which is crazy to say, D-tackle, he's actually standing behind here on the right side, waiting.

Speaker 29 right there on the right side, also waiting to dap everybody up. He didn't finish the the game.

Speaker 29 He left with the ankle, went to the locker room, came back out, tried to get back in the game, and Vrabel basically said, like, hey, let's get ahead of this and let's relax a little bit.

Speaker 29 He's on the right side there, and he waited with Vrabel to dap up everybody basically for New England. The other thing, too, that was really cool is just he was tweeting from the locker room.

Speaker 29 During the game. I don't know if you want to pull it up, Bruce, but if you go to his account, Christian Barmar hasn't hasn't had a sack in a while.

Speaker 29 But he actually said in his tweet, I think it was, you know, two years or a year for Christian Barmore because he had the last year he had the really tough situation with the blood clots.

Speaker 29 So he missed most of the year, so he hadn't had a sack. And when Christian Barmore did get a sack last night, Milton Williams just tweeted, and it was at like 11 p.m.
The game was damn near over.

Speaker 29 But he tweeted just like, hell yeah, B-Mo.

Speaker 29 And I think that's the biggest thing because we talked about the Diggs buy-in, but even just the Milton Williams, the highest highest paid player, he really doesn't have to, you know, one, battle to be out there, but two, do stuff like this, which is really cool.

Speaker 29 And then the other little thing I think just to highlight was the Mac Hollins entrance. He wore the 988 suicide prevention line while he's walking into the game.

Speaker 29 And like, I just think that's really cool. Not to mention Chris Gonzalez.

Speaker 29 He does a lot of help with one of the mental health places, the charity, and I'm forgetting the name now, but that's kind of his, you know, specialty foundation, if you will.

Speaker 29 And then Mac Holland's doing that, you know, with everything going on, like the Marshawn Nealon situation, one thing, but just everybody on a day-to-day Mac Holland's doing that in prime time.

Speaker 29 You know, we know he does wear the funny stuff, and he does all sweet Instagram videos.

Speaker 27 He's like fixing a washing machine or he's changing the oil in a car or doing all kinds of like great stuff. Like, I enjoy his content.

Speaker 29 Yeah, exactly. Like, it's typically funny, and like the videos he makes are hilarious.
He's wearing like a three-piece suit as he's breaking down the Bermuda Triangle sometimes.

Speaker 29 But him doing something like that in prime time, I just thought was really cool. And it's just the team as a whole.

Speaker 29 It's crazy that, you know, as we talk about the rookies and everything, you know, Pat mentioned the left tackle, left guard being rookies, but it's just the premier positions in general.

Speaker 29 Like, yes, Drake May's 23. Will Campbell, you know, he's 21 and he was locked down once again.

Speaker 29 And he's gone up against, you know, TJ Watt, Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, who had five sacks, but still has been battle-tested throughout the season.

Speaker 29 It's incredible when you think about those positions being as young as they are. You know, Christian Gonzalez kind of being lost in the fold because...
You never hear Christian Gonzalez's name.

Speaker 29 You just don't. He flies up and makes tackles.
He actually had five tackles last night, so it was a little bit more, but he's 23.

Speaker 29 And this thing that he does for the last two weeks, last week he wore Bobby Orr. This week he wore Larry Legend.

Speaker 29 Stuff like that is so cool just because you're kind of seeing the players on the team, the young guys specifically on the team, like embrace not just the Patriots in the city of Boston, but embracing the history of sports within the city of Boston.

Speaker 29 Like that in itself, I think, reflects a lot about kind of the knowledge Mike Vrabel brings.

Speaker 29 Christian Gonzalez was never doing this before this season as far as those type of shirts.

Speaker 29 But now, you know, seeing that, that kind of makes me think like, oh, okay, so Vrabel is also educating them on like the sports fandom.

Speaker 27 How special it is. I'm sure he tries to tell me, guys, it's not like this everywhere else for you players that this is the only NFL experience you know.
Like, it's not like this everywhere.

Speaker 27 I was in Green Bay for nine years, and guys would leave and come back, or they'd come from other places, and they'd be like, man, this place is special.

Speaker 27 Like, it doesn't, they don't do it like this everywhere. As we're talking about legends, Gronk, what do you call it? What did he do?

Speaker 29 The keeper of the light.

Speaker 27 He's the keeper of the light here. I don't know.

Speaker 21 Jesus.

Speaker 29 Damn near yanked that kid off the top of the lighthouse.

Speaker 21 Look how high up they are, too.

Speaker 27 Gronk is just everything he's doing is full go. Like, I love this whole situation with what Gronk.
He was, he was, yeah, here we go. Smashing guitars.
Who's he singing with here?

Speaker 21 John Jovi.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I don't think it was JBJ, John Von Jovi.

Speaker 29 And I think Kenny is back on tour.

Speaker 27 I'm assuming it's just almost killed that camera.

Speaker 29 One of the locals, maybe Dalton and the Sheriffs. But yeah, Gronk being back as well is just so cool to see for me as someone who grew up with him.

Speaker 29 And, you know, him going to Tampa, everything, that's all forgotten. He's a Patriot for life, baby.

Speaker 27 Were you surprised? Like, you can't be surprised.

Speaker 29 Yeah, we're glad he he retired as a patriot but like you weren't surprised by that like why he was in what was he there two years yeah yeah he was there for two years but yeah it's not something you're like surprised by it's just more so the gesture like we know gronk is retired he obviously isn't coming back to play football but the just the gesture of hey i'm going to make it a point that i love this place way more than anywhere else and even though i played for tampa won a super bowl here that doesn't discredit all the time i spent in new england this is where he grew up this is where he met his girlfriend longtime girlfriend.

Speaker 29 Like so many things had happened in New England.

Speaker 27 This is before the game. Sorry to cut your hand up.

Speaker 21 No, I

Speaker 21 don't know.

Speaker 29 I think this is halftime, actually. I think he's trying to get the people going at halftime because his whole before the game was the keeper of the light thing.

Speaker 29 So it's just, it's awesome to see stuff like this. And it just goes back to how much football means to the people in New England.

Speaker 27 Yeah, football means a lot to most people that watch as fans all over the country. And Pat, I believe, is sitting down with our Friday legend with you, Pat.
Here we go. Here we go.

Speaker 27 Coach Nick Nick Savage.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I think that's a great descriptor there. The Friday legend, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
Friday afternoon, Nick Sabig.

Speaker 21 Yay!

Speaker 21 Thanks, guys.

Speaker 32 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 28 Coach, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. How's it feel to be here in Pittsburgh? Your thoughts on the city of Pittsburgh as a whole.
You coach for the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 28 Obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns have and have had for a long time that rivalry. I don't know

Speaker 28 how much University of Pittsburgh history do you have, and what are your thoughts on us being here?

Speaker 32 Well, I love being here because, A, about 125 miles down the road down I-79, is where I grew up.

Speaker 32 So to come to Pittsburgh when I was a kid, whether it was to go to Kennywood Park, see the Steelers once a year, see the Pirates once a year, that was like it, man. That was it.
Kennywood.

Speaker 21 And then of all things.

Speaker 28 Tell me more about Kennywood, please.

Speaker 21 I love it.

Speaker 32 What was it, the Pip or something?

Speaker 21 Yeah, certainly.

Speaker 21 I still remember. The Blackrabbit, yeah, yeah.
All of those

Speaker 32 rabbit? Yeah, from when I was a kid.

Speaker 21 But

Speaker 28 ironically, if you had to guess what year that was.

Speaker 32 You know, 60s.

Speaker 21 Yep. Hasn't changed a bit since.

Speaker 28 Okay, don't listen to him, but go ahead. I'm sorry.

Speaker 32 So then, ironically, everyone where I grew up is a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I've been a Pittsburgh Steelers fan all my life.
And then I go to the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 32 So when we play Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, I got to get 100 tickets for Steelers fans. And then when I get in a bus to leave the game, they're all out there fighting the Browns fans.

Speaker 21 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 28 Exactly.

Speaker 21 None of them rooted for me.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I mean, that's a Pittsburgh story and a staple there with the fighting and football. But it is a football town, like very much a football town.
You can feel it.

Speaker 28 And I think tomorrow morning is going to be special. Tell me about this pit team, what you've learned from watching them.

Speaker 28 We just talked to Narduzzi, and he said everybody that's on his team, he wants to love ball. He wants to be tough, obviously.
Gonna have a lot of greats back.

Speaker 28 What do you think about this current pit team? And can they knock off Notre Dame from the college football playoff? That's what's on the line tomorrow, basically.

Speaker 32 Well I think part Pat Narduzi has done an outstanding job here, no question.

Speaker 32 I think this is a tough job and I think the job he's done this year with this team, this freshman quarterback, I mean this guy is the real deal now. He's athletic, he can run,

Speaker 32 really good passer and they're throwing it 63% of the time. So to me this is the type of team, when you have a passing team that can make explosive plays and they're going to air it out all the time,

Speaker 32 they're the type of team that can upset a team that's better. because as long as they can protect well enough and the guys can make plays, they got a chance to score points.
So that can always,

Speaker 32 you know, when you're a, I call it wadball team, like you're running the ball, running the ball, running the ball, and you play somebody better, that's hard.

Speaker 32 This, not so hard, because you can take advantage of making big plays. Now, the question to me is going to be, how does Pitts receivers match up against Notre Dame's secondary?

Speaker 32 Because Notre Dame plays a lot of man-to-man. So if they can't be man-to-man, they'll have a tough time, even though they're going to throw the ball effectively.

Speaker 28 See, yeah, Notre Dame has quite the advantage, I assume, in recruiting for DBs. They got NFL DBs all over the place.

Speaker 28 Not that Pitt doesn't have NFL guys, but I'm just saying Notre Dame has been built basically with five-stars.

Speaker 28 So on the outside, whenever you talk about wide receiver DBs, that's a great athlete out there, normally.

Speaker 28 And you're talking about wad ball, whenever you play a better team, that's normally because the D-line better athletes than what the offensive line is used to, right? Is that what I'm saying?

Speaker 32 Yeah, now you're creating a matchup with, you know, is our O-line good enough to block their D line?

Speaker 32 Where it's a lot easier to get receivers and a quarterback that can make throws and just get in their way long enough until we can throw it.

Speaker 28 And you think that's Nar Doozy's plan, Damarn? What do you think Notre Dame's plan is? Just a standard, let's play how we play.

Speaker 28 We run the ball over this team and kind of dominate from beginning to end. You think that's what Freeman's saying?

Speaker 32 Well, I think, you know, they're scoring 39 points a game, so Notre Dame's got a pretty powerful offense and it's balanced. You know, they can run it, they can throw it.

Speaker 32 So I'm sure they're going to think that we can continue to do these kinds of things. But Pitt's defense has been really good against the run.

Speaker 32 They're one of the top teams in the country in stop of the run. So if you can make them one-dimensional, I think you've got a chance.
But

Speaker 32 I think what Narduzzi's thinking is I'm going to try to affect the quarterback. They pressure like 40% of the time, try to upset, you know, Carr as a quarterback.

Speaker 32 And then can we make enough plays on offense throwing the football to score enough points to have a chance to win this game?

Speaker 28 A lot of Italians where you grew up?

Speaker 32 Yeah,

Speaker 32 a lot of Eastern European people and Italians, yes, sir.

Speaker 28 Okay, Eastern European. I like that.

Speaker 32 I'm Croatian. That's why I have to say Eastern European.

Speaker 28 Because you're describing to us on a map where the hell Croatia is. That's what you just did to me.

Speaker 21 Basically,

Speaker 21 most people don't know.

Speaker 21 It's Eastern European. I knew that.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 28 I've been staying with me for the rest of my life. Yeah, we love Croatia.
Don't we have Croatian? Tony Kuko, Truck.

Speaker 21 Oh, yeah. Come on.
DC Brati.

Speaker 28 Cacoste.

Speaker 28 Do you know? Brusevic is actually married into a or getting married into a or yeah, no, getting married into a Croatian family. He speaks a little bit.
Do you speak Croatian?

Speaker 32 Oh, yeah. I know Dobra.
Good. Yeah.
You know, I mean, my grandparents spoke Croatian

Speaker 32 when I was a kid.

Speaker 21 How's Croatian food?

Speaker 28 Croatian food good?

Speaker 32 I went there once and visited and was not that impressed.

Speaker 28 You got to try the chavapi.

Speaker 21 The chevapis are phenomenal. I never heard of it.

Speaker 32 I like Italian food, man. There's Italian and he can cook.

Speaker 28 I was about to say, here in Pittsburgh, there's like a thousand Italian spots. I'm excited to see what you end up doing, what you end up getting into.
This place has great food all over the place.

Speaker 32 Yeah, well, you know, Savo's on our staff, Sal Sinceri. Yes.
And I guess his family has a little deli or something here. And we used to bring the, you know, sausage and

Speaker 32 all that stuff in. It was good.

Speaker 28 Yeah, yeah, Sinceri's have one.

Speaker 28 There'll be a bobba da boba baini right down the road and then there'll be a supa da poopa da baini around the corner and then you get a peppy there and then you'll get a dala salad then you'll get a de Giulio then you'll get a moraldo then you'll get a master giacomo then you'll get a pronio then you'll get an impovito these are just people I grew up with

Speaker 28 sounds to me like you're pretty expert I know a lot yeah and I took a 23 of me and

Speaker 28 found out I was 0.01% Italian and

Speaker 28 that really changed a lot of things that I'd said. Nick, I'd like to let you know that was a big moment in my life.
Don't you think, Nick? I think that was a big moment for the way I'd been operating.

Speaker 28 Don't you agree, Franklin Miraldo up there?

Speaker 21 Absolutely. Yeah, that changed a lot of things.
You know, you had viewed a certain group of people a certain way, and then when you realized you were a part of that group,

Speaker 21 I think you became more enlightened. No.
No,

Speaker 28 I don't think that is exactly right. I was like the only Irish guy.
Okay, it was all Italians. I was the only Irish guy.
So obviously football town, shit talking town, only Irish guy, all Italians.

Speaker 28 You could probably assume how that probably went, especially with me being involved. Then I found out I'm actually part Italian.
It's like, wait a minute.

Speaker 28 So we got to go back and try to change some things. But great, we make great food.
I mean, we make great food. And you talk about Kennywood.

Speaker 28 You need to go back there. They're opening up for you tonight if you want to go stop.

Speaker 32 I hadn't been there for probably 50 years.

Speaker 21 Go ahead tonight. Everybody's

Speaker 21 still going.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I'd love to go.

Speaker 28 Shut up, AJ. I heard a little negative stuff out there.
We don't need to talk about that.

Speaker 28 AJ actually has a last question for you on this particular game before we move on to the rest of the college football sleeve.

Speaker 27 So coach, that field behind you gets a lot of play.

Speaker 27 It gets talked about a lot. We've seen some situations, the turf there is not always stable.
Were you a coach that made your players, like, did you ever talk about the field conditions going in?

Speaker 27 I know in the NFL coaches do this where sometimes they'll make their players wear screw-ins in certain situations.

Speaker 27 Was that something that you actually talked about or you cared to talk about with your team?

Speaker 32 Yeah, what I talked about with my team was that it's a bad field. Get some shoes that work.
It was really simple.

Speaker 32 I wasn't going to try to pick the shoes for them, and then they come to me saying, these hurt my feet, get some shoes that work, but don't look at me when you slip and fall and you could run for a touchdown.

Speaker 32 Because I'm going to just look at you and say, get some shoes that work.

Speaker 32 It's a simple.

Speaker 28 Coach Shavin said this in the meeting. He said, I told the boys, as long as it's 53 yards wide, 100 yards long, we're going to play football.
It doesn't matter what it is.

Speaker 28 And I followed up immediately. Coach Chavin said that as a man that doesn't have to run a single yard on that particular

Speaker 28 turf, But it is real. If both teams have to play on it, let's not talk about it.
What are we even talking about, basically?

Speaker 32 That's right. But, you know, but every stadium that I have played in,

Speaker 32 as soon as I walked in this room and looked at this field, I remember playing the Steelers here when I was a coach of the Dolphins. And, you know, we worked so hard, they would corner Cat.

Speaker 32 Dick LeBeau was the defensive coordinator. But most of the time when they corner Cat, they play three deep zone.
And we worked hard when they went to two trap because it was always

Speaker 32 hot to the X. Dante Culpepper, the cat, hot to the X, two Trap, pick six.

Speaker 32 It's the first thing I remember. I mean, why can't I remember good things when I got it?

Speaker 21 Yeah, is this what you remember?

Speaker 28 You remember them dancing into that

Speaker 32 dancing in the street, baby.

Speaker 21 Absolutely.

Speaker 28 The grass does look good. Now, granted, with where we're sitting, we're not able to get as good of a shot.
But the grass does look good. Now, granted, they do spray paint it, too.

Speaker 28 I mean, that is just as a matter of fact that they do. And

Speaker 21 I don't want to

Speaker 28 get on that.

Speaker 21 It looks much better than I thought, honestly. Yeah, it looks good.
It looks credible.

Speaker 32 But you know, the problem with the field is, you know, people like to use zoyser grass on a field because that makes a really nice field. But then it doesn't grow when it's not warm enough.

Speaker 32 So you have to put ryegrass.

Speaker 32 to complement it to make it green. Now, this is a problem.
And I never wanted to do this.

Speaker 32 So I said, we got to get some grass that grows until football season is over because when you put ryegrass on a field, the blades are really thick in the ryegrass and it makes it very slick, especially if it's damp at all and people are slipping and sliding because the cleats don't go in the ground because the grass is so thick.

Speaker 28 Yeah, because so it's kind of like your cleat sticks on top of it as opposed to so it's almost like you're on actually skids which the grass is thick.

Speaker 28 I know exactly what you're talking about as you're explaining it. I had no idea you had a green thumb.
I'm a Kentucky bluegrass fan myself.

Speaker 21 That is my favorite style of grass.

Speaker 32 Yeah, well I just wanted something that you know the players wouldn't, because, you know, you get this happening in practice and you lose players and get hurt with twisted ankles and all this kind of stuff because you got bad footing.

Speaker 32 So I was a stickler on that big time.

Speaker 28 What about Bermuda grass? That's pretty good grass as well.

Speaker 32 Oh, yeah. But it doesn't grow when it gets cold either, so you got a problem.

Speaker 28 Bermuda grass, soft-ass grass. Super DC teams not being able to play in the cold.

Speaker 32 That might be true, but they sure as hell can play in the southeast.

Speaker 21 Yes, they did.

Speaker 28 Speaking of the Southeast, Diggs has a question for you, Coach.

Speaker 21 Yeah, Coach, let's go down to Sabinfield at Bryant Denny Stadium. Alabama has a big one this weekend.

Speaker 21 But overall, I want to talk not only about this game, but their overall picture. They are 120th, I believe, in running the football.

Speaker 21 Can you win a national championship or get to a national championship being a one-dimensional offense, in your opinion?

Speaker 32 Well, I think it's hard. I really do.

Speaker 21 But

Speaker 32 if you've got a good enough quarterback and you've got good enough receivers, which that's the strength of their team to me, you know, Ty Simpson and the receiver corps.

Speaker 32 And they make a lot of explosive plays. Now they have struggled to run the ball.

Speaker 32 The offensive line is going to have to continue to improve because they have pretty decent backs, but they just have not been able to sustain and finish in the run game at all, which puts them behind the sticks a lot.

Speaker 32 But they make more explosive plays on run downs.

Speaker 32 That play right there that you're watching right now is a first and ten play. So I'm like, like, throw the ball when they think you're going to run it and just keep making explosive plays that way.

Speaker 32 And if you want to run it better, run it when they think you're going to throw it and maybe you'll do a better job and develop some confidence in your ability to run the ball.

Speaker 28 Okay, so on that note, the SEC has a lot of games. Okay, there's a lot of games left with a lot on the line.
Ty wants to ask you about a big one down in Athens.

Speaker 28 And it's crazy to think all the teams at the top of the SEC are going to have to play each other.

Speaker 28 And you're going to hear a lot of the SEC people say, isn't that convenient? Okay, all the best teams have to play against the best teams.

Speaker 28 So now the number in that second column, the lost number, is going to have to go up for some of these good teams. Are they going to beat the hell out of each other?

Speaker 28 Ty has a question about Athens, Georgia, Coach.

Speaker 31 Yeah, Coach, that Texas, Georgia game, you know, Texas over the last four weeks, obviously they're 4-0, but a couple, you know, tight overtime games.

Speaker 31 And then, you know, the Vandy game last week being tighter. than you know, maybe some people thought it would be, but Arch has looked unbelievable.

Speaker 31 And then on the flip side, you know, Georgia Georgia kind of just, you know, workman-like, they just continue to win and win.

Speaker 29 How do you see that game going?

Speaker 31 And do you think that most of the questions that people had about Texas, you know, a couple weeks ago have maybe been answered because they're kind of, you know, coming back pretty strong here.

Speaker 31 And I think a lot of people see them as, okay, you know, this is maybe a little, partially the team we expected to see coming into the season.

Speaker 32 Well, I think Texas has improved for two reasons. I think in the last two games, Arch has played better.
He's playing with a little more rhythm, not hurrying everything up.

Speaker 32 And he's been more effective and efficient, and his, you know, completion percentage is way up and all that. And the offensive line has played better.

Speaker 32 So those two things, I think, have made them show improvement as a team, but they still haven't been a dominant team.

Speaker 32 I mean, even the games that they won, they either had to come back and win, win in overtime, or just barely beat Vanderbilt.

Speaker 32 And then they had terrible issues last week in the secondary where they gave up over 300 yards passing.

Speaker 32 So they still have issues on their team that I think they need to resolve. Now, they're going to play a really good team, and this week would be a great week to do it.

Speaker 32 But I'm telling you what, this Georgia team, now, their offense, I mean, they can run it. Gunner makes plays.

Speaker 32 They've got some decent receivers who can make plays. I mean, they're a good team.

Speaker 32 The only thing that is Georgia's issue is they don't have a significant pass rusher and they don't create a lot of negative plays on defense, and they haven't been able to get off the field on third down like they historically have been able.

Speaker 32 So that allows the other team to keep the ball. So those are things that they can improve on.

Speaker 32 So both teams have some flaws that they need to improve upon and whoever can do it in this game best will have the best chance to win.

Speaker 28 Now on that note, Georgia very much in the running for a national championship right now. If they pick up a loss to Texas, it'll be a huge conversation about them losing to Texas.

Speaker 28 Texas at some point, I think they're going to play Texas A ⁇ M as well.

Speaker 28 They're going to pick up, but if they pick up two wins here with how the entire season has has gone, all of a sudden, Texas right back into conversation. What's conversation about Georgia?

Speaker 28 What's conversation about Alabama as they've gotten through the hardest schedule that maybe the entire college football season has had?

Speaker 28 It's like you guys down in the south are certainly going to have a lot of reasons to be pissed about whatever happens at the end. And it is because of the scheduling.

Speaker 28 But we want these big games to happen. So it's kind of like an interesting dilemma right now in ball.

Speaker 32 Yeah, I would like to have. the good games.
I think that's good for fans. I think it's good for football.

Speaker 32 I think players love playing in games, you know, like this game here or like, you know, the Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Texas, A ⁇ M, Texas later on.

Speaker 32 But when it comes to getting in the playoffs, because of the way it's set up, it's not necessarily in your best interest to play a tough schedule right now.

Speaker 32 But when you've got seven teams in the top 15, which you don't want to admit, the SEC is worth a damn.

Speaker 21 They got to play each other.

Speaker 21 They got to play each other.

Speaker 32 Mr. Big Ten over here.

Speaker 28 And the 12, and the 12, and the Big Twelve.

Speaker 32 So they're going to play each other. So somebody's got to lose.

Speaker 32 So somebody's going to end up with three losses and they're not going to be able to get in the playoffs, but yet they may be a better team than some of the teams who get in the playoffs.

Speaker 28 It happened already last year. You know, last year was the first year of the 12-team playoff.

Speaker 28 And, you know, the BCS model where there was a bunch of different, then we pick which one's a national championship. And then the four teams was obviously a big expansion.

Speaker 28 Everybody was pissed about who's the fifth team. Now with the 12-team one, now everybody's pissed about who the 13th team is because, you know, the five highest-ranked champions.

Speaker 28 Is Notre Dame going to get a spot? Well, everybody in football, the SEC, the Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, definitely. Everybody's pulling for Notre Dame to lose at some point.

Speaker 28 But Notre Dame still has a track to the college football playoffs for sure if they win these games.

Speaker 28 And that takes away a spot now from one of these teams you're talking about that has to play one of these schedules. And that kind of goes to Ohio State's conversation now.

Speaker 28 Desmond Howard's been bringing it up for a few weeks because he's obviously Michigan guy, but also I think he's been tasked with doing some Ohio State research basically for College Game Day.

Speaker 28 And he's like, listen, Ohio State hasn't really played anybody. Now, granted, every game you could lose in college football.
You're talking about 18-year-olds to 22-year-olds.

Speaker 28 I guess there are some 45-year-olds playing in certain situations, but it's a younger group. And having everybody show up every single week is part of you being great and why you're the GOAT.

Speaker 28 So winning every game is certainly impressive. Dominating every game, definitely impressive.
But when you look at who they've played, you don't really see anybody on the schedule.

Speaker 28 So I think we don't know. Dan Orlofsky yesterday comes out and goes, we don't know if they're a good team.
We've never seen them lose it in the fourth quarter. Kind of contradicts himself there.

Speaker 28 We don't know if they're a good team. They've never been down in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 21 It's like, well,

Speaker 28 well, you know, if they were

Speaker 28 not a good team, I guess they would have some times where they're down at some point in the game. But I think what a lot of people are saying are they haven't been tested.

Speaker 28 So like, how do you look at an Ohio State team? Because they have been so damn dominant, but it feels like they haven't had like a staple win other than Texas at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 28 And everybody thought Texas at that point was nowhere near what everybody thinks they were going to be now. You know, like how do you judge the Ohio State kind of run that they've been on?

Speaker 32 Right. Well, they've been dominant.
I mean they're only giving up like seven points a game defensively and they score a whole bunch of points. They've got good receivers.
The quarterbacks played well.

Speaker 32 They don't run the ball great if they have a flaw. But at the same time, I always wanted our teams to be tested.

Speaker 32 I always wanted to play against good teams because I wanted to see how what the competitive spirit of our team really was, what the mental toughness was, how we could overcome adversity.

Speaker 32 Because when you dominate everybody, then you get in a tight game. People start getting frustrated because they're not dominating.
That's not, you just got to win.

Speaker 32 You know, I mean, you can't get frustrated just because you're not dominating the game. So, but I do think Ohio State has a good team.

Speaker 32 I think there's three teams that's kind of proven they're a cut above A ⁇ M, Ohio State, and Indiana. Those three teams have kind of shown that they're a cut above the other teams.

Speaker 32 The other teams are good enough to beat them, but they all have a little flaw or something that they need to overcome. So it'll be interesting to see how that works out down the stretch here.

Speaker 28 Okay, so in the NFL, they say, like, the people in the know, after the season starts, everybody kind of understands that there's probably like seven to eight teams that could actually go win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 28 In college, it feels like there is tiers each year on who can actually win, and then everybody else that is in the good level.

Speaker 28 That's why people are saying, if we go to 16-team playoff, or if we go to whatever, like, does it matter?

Speaker 28 Because a lot of these teams are just going to get the doors blown off them whenever they play against the good team. How many teams are those normally? Three, four teams that are like built for it.

Speaker 28 And did you know your teams were national championship teams during the season?

Speaker 28 Or did you think with some of your squads, like maybe we're not at the level that we need to be to be actual national championship? I don't know if that makes sense in the question.

Speaker 32 Yeah, it does. And most of the time, I didn't know because I think when you're coaching a team, you're always looking at what do we need to improve on.

Speaker 32 So you're not actually trying to compare that team to all the other teams. But I do remember one thought I had.
You know, we won the national championship in 20.

Speaker 32 Waddle broke his leg at Tennessee on a kickoff return. Shouldn't even brought it out, but he did, and he got hurt.

Speaker 32 So, and I'm saying we had Smitty, we had Waddle, and we had a really good quarterback, you know, Mac.

Speaker 32 And I said, you know, this team's got a chance, but we got to do it because we have the good skill guys. And when Waddle got hurt, I said,

Speaker 32 in my mind, it went through my mind, as soon as they told me he was hurt and he was out.

Speaker 32 We won't have a chance to win now.

Speaker 21 But we did.

Speaker 28 Yeah, and Waddle played, right, if I recall in the national championship with him?

Speaker 32 Played a few plays. He could run in a straight line, but he had a hard time changing direction, and he wanted to play.
Oh, yeah. And he caught a pass or two.

Speaker 32 But, you know, Smitty had a phenomenal year and won the Heisman Trophy. And,

Speaker 32 you know, we had balance on the team. But that's the only team that I remember ever thinking that something happened that

Speaker 32 it's going to be tough. When Tua got hurt, had the same feeling because that was one of the best teams we ever had is the year Tua broke his hip.

Speaker 32 That was one of the best teams we ever had because we had four first-round draft pick receivers. And I like them receivers, man.

Speaker 32 They scored fast and they get on me about, you know, me thinking being a defensive guy was scoring too fast and protect the defense. I loved it.
I loved it when we were.

Speaker 28 Yeah, but the reason why they think that is because watching old school Alabama, you were winning, but it was just like so boring. You know, you were just handing the ball off.

Speaker 28 You guys were just running all over people and then, all right, your defense is going to dominate the other side. And it was like it was 1970, 1980.
We're just going to beat the hell out.

Speaker 28 And you guys did. And that was like the, we're a tough football team.
We're going to pound the shit out of you. Quarterback never really got a lot of credit.
It was always everybody else.

Speaker 28 So then when you make that change to become like an explosive offense and keep up basically with what football they became, everybody did assume that you hated it.

Speaker 28 They're like, oh, Sabin's yearning for the days where we're all falling asleep in the third quarter as they're just pounding another team into oblivion. Do people thought that about you, Coach?

Speaker 32 No, they probably did, but

Speaker 32 I actually figured out when people were throwing RPOs and going no huddle fast and starting to scoring 40 points a game that we will not be able to win playing this style of football.

Speaker 32 We have to be able to utilize, you know, make people defend the whole field vertically and horizontally, have great skill guys, get a great quarterback, and score more points.

Speaker 32 And, you know, we won some championships by out-scoring people rather than playing defense.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I'd say you won some championships. The trophies are all over the house.

Speaker 28 Here you go. They're literally falling out of

Speaker 27 the shelves.

Speaker 28 Seven-time national champion. The national championship odds right now are sitting with Ohio State at plus 185 at the very top of this thing.
Indiana plus 450. Texas AM plus 750.

Speaker 28 To your point about the three teams above. They also have Alabama in that.
If you were to look at the odds, not that much different from Texas AM. Notre Dame at plus 1,000.
Big one here at Pitt.

Speaker 28 There's going to be a lot of energy here in this building. I think it's going to be a tough one for them.
Georgia plus 1,300. Texas plus 3,500 down there at the bottom, obviously meeting.

Speaker 28 Oregon in the mix, Texas Tech, old miss. And that rounds out the odds.

Speaker 32 But, you know, one thing about this whole thing, and you know, you say Ohio State hadn't played a tough schedule, but just taking Alabama, which I'm closest to because I live there, this has been a tremendous grind for this team.

Speaker 32 I mean, they've played like four or five games in a row against really top opponents. You know now they're going to go play Oklahoma who's a top opponent.

Speaker 32 You know LSU is no slouch regardless of what you think from a player standpoint. So they've been through this gauntlet.

Speaker 32 So can they actually build on the momentum that they have or are they going to get the poor me's I call it because sometimes your team gets the poor me's at this time of the season.

Speaker 32 You know, poor me, I'm tired. Poor me, I'm hurt.
Poor me, this and that, all that.

Speaker 32 And if you you get that, then you don't practice as well, you don't prepare as well, you don't play as well, and those things start showing up in your performance.

Speaker 32 And I'm just hoping this team can sustain their way through it and prove that they

Speaker 32 are where they should be.

Speaker 28 I love you just looking at a guy and say, oh, poor me.

Speaker 21 I love it.

Speaker 28 That's where it all came. I call it the poor me's.

Speaker 28 The amount of time you've seen somebody patting or think in a certain way, oh, poor me, just in your brain coming up with the poor me's, I wish I was there for that moment. Sounds amazing.

Speaker 28 But the fact that you have motivation for every single situation is why you're the goat of college football and we're lucky that you chat with us every week.

Speaker 28 Let's talk about sports as a whole and let's talk about the game that happened last night. The guy who's the odds on favorite to win the Heisman is in his second year, Drake May.

Speaker 28 Boston Connor has a question for you about him.

Speaker 29 Yeah, Coach, Greg Olson put out a tweet kind of about basically the importance of recruits playing other sports.

Speaker 29 He does a foundation, Youth Inc., and it's just all about getting kids into all types of sports. And he kind of tagged it with a photo of you and Sark at Drake Mays High School.

Speaker 29 I believe it's the Mustangs he represented in high school and it's you watching him play basketball but I just wanted to ask you about the importance and what you would do when recruiting players.

Speaker 29 You know, was there ever a time where you went to watch a Julio Jones or a Derrick Henry and they were maybe hitting a baseball 600 feet or dunking a basketball from the free throw line and you honestly had more respect for what they were as an athlete and a football player?

Speaker 29 Was there ever a time too where you damn near wanted to recruit a kid and get him to commit early so he didn't go to the NBA or go to the MLB within a year?

Speaker 29 And what do you think about that when it comes to recruits now who typically focus in one sport and then in their offseason are playing that same sport or preparing for that sports next season?

Speaker 29 Do you think that recruits all over should be playing at least two sports? And how much does it show you when you get to see a guy outside of football compete in a a different field?

Speaker 32 Yeah, well, first of all, Drake May was one of those guys that you're talking about in the first part of your question that really impressed me by the way he played basketball.

Speaker 32 He probably could have played basketball at North Carolina too and was going to out of high school. And one of the reasons that, you know, he was committed to us for a long time.

Speaker 32 His family was all Carolina, which I knew would, you know, eventually be an obstacle. But he wanted to play basketball as well.
And

Speaker 32 so, and he probably could have, because I was very impressed watching him play basketball I mean this guy was a good player and he obviously is everything that we thought he was going to be coming out of high school

Speaker 32 as an NFL player now and also had a great college career so he was one of those guys that impressed I was never a guy I liked it when players played multiple sports because to me that that says something about them as a competitor you know that they love to play they love to compete they wanted to play whatever was in season because that's how I grew up.

Speaker 32 That's how we all did it back in the day. And I love to see guys do that.
And I think other sports tells you a lot about a guy. Like baseball is basically boring.

Speaker 21 But to me...

Speaker 21 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 28 Baseball is good. Baseball is good, sorry.

Speaker 32 But I'd love guys that play baseball because to me, even though it's a slow game, you have to have more athletic intuition to play the game than other games.

Speaker 32 I mean, you can run track and win track meet and have no athletic intuition. You're just fast.
But in baseball, you got to make lots of choices and decisions about is it a ball or a strike?

Speaker 32 Should I hit it? Should I not hit it? What pitch is he throwing from the time it leaves the pitcher's hand and gets to home play? Nobody can teach you that. Ball judgment.

Speaker 32 You know, I mean, how many DBs do you see that have terrible ball judgment?

Speaker 32 I used to like to recruit track guys to play corner, and after they'd give up big plays because they couldn't judge the ball, I started recruiting baseball players. I knew they could judge the ball.

Speaker 32 So, you know, these are all things that I think you can learn about players when you watch them them play other sports. And I loved it when guys played other sports.

Speaker 32 And I was never opposed to guys playing other sports because I didn't think it ever affected their development in terms of what they would do in the future.

Speaker 28 Okay, so let's talk about that because I think there's a lot of gurus and specialists and experts that are telling a lot of these young guys and young athletes. I have a daughter.

Speaker 28 She's two and a half. She hasn't been in it yet.
I think AJ would be able to maybe speak to this better than all of all of us.

Speaker 28 And in Ohio, I don't know how it goes and how AJ, he's a professional athlete and played every single sport. So I'd assume AJ agrees with us.
But what is the sell, AJ?

Speaker 28 They're saying that you got to spend every single minute that you have working on your craft if you want to be able to become a professional.

Speaker 28 Is that basically the sell for these people to only do one sport year-round that you've experienced with your kids or that they pitch to other kids?

Speaker 27 Yeah, I mean, I've kind of experienced it all and talked to all different kinds of coaches. From what I have found, bad coaches want their, want kids to specialize in one sport.

Speaker 27 Like coaches that aren't great, they want to specialize.

Speaker 27 They just make it really tough. You have to be an absolute stud to play like three sports in high school school now because basketball is going all year round.
La Crosse is all year round.

Speaker 27 Football is the one that's like, hey, football is football season. Yeah, you have off-season stuff.

Speaker 27 But I just think they make it tough because there's so many things you have to miss if you do want to play other sports.

Speaker 27 But if you, you just got to be good enough. You got to be too good to where, hey, guess what? I'll be there once this basketball season's over.
I'll show up at lacrosse, but I'm that good.

Speaker 27 You're going to have to play me. That's kind of how it is right now, I feel like.

Speaker 28 And on that note, AJ, I think all these experts and gurus that probably never made it, and

Speaker 28 they probably blame the fact that they didn't make it because they didn't solely focus maybe on one sport. So they're projecting themselves onto younger athletes.

Speaker 28 It's like, I think you develop in your main sport by playing other sports.

Speaker 28 Even though you're missing out on some reps, it's like what you're gaining, your point about ball judgment, everything like that. These other sports make you better at your sports.

Speaker 28 So it's like, I don't get it. Now, granted, I had schools looking at me in three different sports coming out of high school.
I don't know how many people have that.

Speaker 28 But on that note, it's like I grew up playing every sport. I didn't play video games as much because I had ADD.
So I was playing sports, sports, sports, sports.

Speaker 28 And everyone fed into the other, seemingly. And I don't know how that kind of gets missed.

Speaker 32 Yeah, but to A.J.'s point, it's more difficult for guys to play all sports. When I was in school, I played whatever was in season.

Speaker 32 I played, but football ran into basketball, especially if you got into playoffs. But we might miss a few games, but then we'd come and play.

Speaker 32 It's harder to do. But my point is, the best player is the best player.
I don't care how much you try to develop him and how much he specializes growing up and all that.

Speaker 32 Like Michael Dean Perry, he didn't like to practice.

Speaker 32 But when I was at the Cleveland Browns and we'd put him on a sled and it was, how fast can you hit the sled?

Speaker 32 His hands would be on the sled and all them other defensive linemen with their hands still be in the ground. So he was just that much quicker than everybody else.

Speaker 32 So did he have to specialize in his sport from the time he was eight years old to do that? I don't think so.

Speaker 28 You said it feels like people are trying to make decisions that have already been made for most people and how they were created. That's awesome.
Age.

Speaker 32 Well, and kids get burnt out. Yes.
Absolutely.

Speaker 32 I mean, how many tennis players and people like that did you hear about that they start specializing when they're eight years old and by the time they're 16 they want to quit?

Speaker 28 So we have

Speaker 28 CFO Phil is a pitt grad. He's all excited about this, obviously.

Speaker 21 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 28 He's super bummed about pit getting a little bit of love, a little celebration for the University of Pittsburgh. He's got boy, little Phil.
Okay, little Phil, really good hockey player.

Speaker 28 Hockey, you know, is one of those sports where it's a lot of commitment.

Speaker 28 They move out of their hometowns, you know, and he's very good, but they have made a conscious decision, I think, at this stage of his life, where, yeah, you're still playing baseball.

Speaker 28 We're still doing other sports because it's going to help hockey. But at some point, he's going to have to fully commit to hockey because of the amount of time that it kind of takes.

Speaker 28 It's interesting what sports have become. I think to you and AJ's point, like some of these sports they got to commit full time.
How about those Olympic sports?

Speaker 7 Like, let's just say figure skating, swimming.

Speaker 21 Like, those things are like the amount of commitment.

Speaker 28 It's like 4 a.m. You're in the pool, and you need to be in the pool for three hours, and then you're going to do school, and then afterwards you're in the pool.
It's like, how do you do anything?

Speaker 28 I don't know. I guess that's tough to balance, AJ.

Speaker 32 So I have a question for you. So from a hockey standpoint, you know, these guys get drafted when they're 17, 18 years old.
They can still go to college and play.

Speaker 32 They can go to some league somewhere in Canada or wherever they're from and play.

Speaker 32 And then they turn pro when they're 21.

Speaker 32 You think that's ever happening in football?

Speaker 28 It's already happened. They're pro whenever they get recruited.
And then they transfer and then they transfer and they're already pro. So yeah, I think it's already happening.
Yeah. IMG?

Speaker 32 Yeah, but the NFL

Speaker 32 draft them out of high school. That's the difference.

Speaker 28 Oh, you're saying having the rights out of high school

Speaker 28 develop somewhere. So like teams draft high schoolers and then send them to Ohio State to develop or something like that.
Is that what you're saying? Yeah.

Speaker 32 Oh, wow. And then the other question I have is: now that they let guys come from the G-League back to

Speaker 28 college hoops.

Speaker 32 College hoops. Is the New York Giants going to be able to send their third-team quarterback to Penn State to develop at some point? These are my questions.

Speaker 29 Definitely not Penn State.

Speaker 21 These are my questions.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you guys ask me questions. I'm asking sprays.

Speaker 21 Never thought about it.

Speaker 29 I mean, it's happening with hockey right now, to your point, Gavin McKenna,

Speaker 29 I don't think he's been drafted yet, but he's been the number one recruit prospect for the NHL for multiple years now. And kind of out of nowhere, he decided to go to Penn State this year instead.

Speaker 28 Because they have money, because the amount of money that they're paying the Penguins rickets. Instead of going to the...

Speaker 21 Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead, Tony.
Go ahead, Tom. No, I was going to say the Penguins' first-round draft pick is at Michigan right now, and he's leading the college hockey and scoring right now.

Speaker 21 So they have his rights, and he's playing at Michigan, leading the NCAA. So my brother-in-law did.

Speaker 27 My brother-in-law drafted number three overall in NHL, and he went and played at Michigan two years and then went to the NHL.

Speaker 28 Okay, is that just because the team he got drafted to? I guess we should ask Nick. Nikki skates in the back there, Frank Paisano.
What is it with hockey? They still keep your rights?

Speaker 28 They can send you to any school, or how's that kind of work?

Speaker 21 No, and I mean, it's different. It's case-by-case circumstances.
So like in AJ's case there, I believe

Speaker 21 Jack Johnson was drafted to the Columbus Blue Jackets, or I'm sorry, Carolina Hurricanes. He may not have been ready to make the pro team.
He said that, yeah. He said he was old.
He admitted it to me.

Speaker 27 I was not ready. I needed to go play in college, actually.

Speaker 21 So they give him a couple years to develop, and he gets the, you know, he has free reign of where he goes to school or if he goes to play junior or anything like that. But then he goes to the minute.

Speaker 28 Did they do this in baseball, Ty? Is this baseball, too? Or no, are they designated for the minor? Sorry, go ahead. Is that a hockey?

Speaker 32 You still have hockey? Yeah, no, I was going to ask. They still keep the rights for...
two or three years though, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
When they draft a guy out of high school.

Speaker 28 So on that note, baseball, Pat White, whenever he was with us, he got drafted like four times because they wanted his rights, I think, just in case case football didn't work.

Speaker 28 Ty, is baseball doing this with college too? Because I know like, don't guys get drafted and then choose to go to college? Do their rights remain with the guys that they got drafted to or

Speaker 31 so it changes. So like we talked about this with Kyler Murray, like in that instance, like if he were to go back and play, like the A's still have his rights.

Speaker 31 But if you get drafted first round out of high school or first overall pick, a lot of times what will happen is they can't agree on a signing bonus or something, you know, or the team sucks and they don't want to go there there and just kind of wither away in the minors, those guys will go to college and then when they become draft eligible, their rights are open again so they can be drafted by

Speaker 21 three years.

Speaker 27 Yep, three years. Yeah.

Speaker 32 Got it. So you mentioned a guy there, Pat White.
Yeah. Guess who he was committed to? Yeah, I heard.

Speaker 28 You don't want to play quarterback.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 32 And again, what a dumbass.

Speaker 21 I'll tell you what.

Speaker 28 I watched his ass take the snap and run all over every field. And I rode his coattails through some big moments.
I mean, it was awesome.

Speaker 32 He was fantastic.

Speaker 28 He was cool man. He was a great leader too.
Like incredible leader. Like that's the thing about him.
His dad fire chief I think. So like his dad obviously.
Mobile. Yeah, Mobile, Alabama.

Speaker 28 The home of Mardi Gras. That's where Mardi Gras was actually created.
Then it went down to New Orleans. I learned all this at Senior Bowl whenever I was very intoxicated and missed my flight

Speaker 28 to the ESPN skills kicking contest. Missed it.

Speaker 32 Why does none of that surprise me?

Speaker 28 I should have been a little bit more locked in, especially with how I understand how it all works now at this point. Could you imagine? I go down to that ESPN kicking contest.
I show up.

Speaker 28 I missed the first meeting because I missed a flight out of Mobile, Alabama. There's only like two flights a day out of that place.
So obviously I'm stuck there.

Speaker 28 I missed the meeting, missed the rehearsal, missed the rules, missed the engagement, missed all the gifts, the swag.

Speaker 28 Everybody knows that I missed a flight, and I assume they know why I missed a flight.

Speaker 28 I show down there, win a contest or two, and then I kind of get out of there wearing pink cleats, and I think everybody goes, you either like this guy or you hate this guy.

Speaker 28 Thank God, Bill Pollyan said, we like this guy. And he got a little boozed up, Bill Pollyan said.
Who cares? They want a senior bowl. Let's do that.

Speaker 28 But, boy, I could have certainly been making sandwiches here in Pittsburgh for the rest of my life. And it would have been at Rudy's subs.

Speaker 28 And you might learn a little bit about Rudy's tomorrow, Tone Diggs. Watch your mouth and your tone whenever it comes up tomorrow on the internet, okay, Tone?

Speaker 21 Rudy's is my favorite best cheeseburger celeb in the country.

Speaker 27 Is that basically like a meatball sub?

Speaker 21 Nope.

Speaker 28 Coach. Coach, I'm sorry you got to deal with this.

Speaker 21 I love these guys, though.

Speaker 32 They're really good. They bring out the best in you, too.

Speaker 21 Thanks, Thanks, Coach.

Speaker 29 Coach, you like meatball subs, Coach? Coach, you like meatball subs? You like meatball subs?

Speaker 32 Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yes.

Speaker 28 Meatball subs are just meatball subs?

Speaker 32 How about pepperoni rolls?

Speaker 21 You guys know what pepperon rolls are. Oh, yeah, red.

Speaker 32 Most of these guys don't even know what pepperoni rolls are.

Speaker 32 She's made them before.

Speaker 21 Yeah, she brought them to Alabama. I think we had them in Alabama.

Speaker 28 Listen, a lot of Italians around.

Speaker 21 We know what pepperoni rolls are.

Speaker 28 Oh, yeah, we do. I understand that.
Meatball subs, though, can't have it. How about mashed potatoes? You like mashed potatoes?

Speaker 21 Not my favorite. Meatball subs.

Speaker 21 50-50. 50-50.

Speaker 28 We like that. How about pizza? We eat it? You look good.

Speaker 21 Oh, yeah, I like pizza. You're in very good shape.

Speaker 28 What is your diet? Do you eat?

Speaker 21 Do you eat or drink? You don't work out regularly. No,

Speaker 32 I try to work out.

Speaker 32 I always save up for a good dinner, spaghetti, whatever. Sorry.

Speaker 28 Oh, so you're fasting almost during a day and then housing dinner? Yeah.

Speaker 21 Because you look good.

Speaker 32 Thank you. I appreciate it.
I'm going to try to force you. You know, when you're my age, you got to get ready for 90 now.
So that's my theory. Smart.

Speaker 32 You got to work out a a little bit stay in shape and that's why you're next saving

Speaker 28 you know what i'm thinking about i ain't gonna make the 40.

Speaker 28 ladies and gentlemen next

Speaker 27 coach does look good though yeah he looks really good skin's glowing he is glowing everything about it he's every single week it feels like the guy gets better better looking gets better in shape and he gets better more and more comfortable on tv he's having fun up there you can tell he like legitimately enjoys doing it whereas early on you know i think it might have been like, man, what am I doing up here?

Speaker 31 I'm sure that's so jarring when you've coached your entire life to all of a sudden like, you know, you're talking about some, the, the eighth best Big Ten game or something like that.

Speaker 31 And it's like, what, what the hell am I doing?

Speaker 30 But you can tell he like he genuinely enjoys it and has a lot of fun up there.

Speaker 29 And like changing his viewpoint to your point, like him having that idea about the media as a coach for your whole life being like, don't listen to them. They're stupid.

Speaker 29 They don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 27 Avoid them at all costs.

Speaker 27 I don't want to talk. Oh, hey, coach, you want to do this? No, my first answer is no, every single time.

Speaker 30 Feed him shit and keep him in the dark.

Speaker 28 Yeah, and now you're part of it.

Speaker 27 So it's a whole situation, I guess. I think Pat might have some.
I don't know if he has Rudy subs. I don't know what he has going on over there.

Speaker 21 You know what I have? You know what?

Speaker 27 Oh, you got meatball sub? What do you got?

Speaker 21 No. No way.

Speaker 28 This is my sack of subs, baby.

Speaker 21 What kind you like?

Speaker 28 Whole Italian hot lettuce onion mayo. Thank you so much.
Yes, definitely grilled, cooked. And I would like some fries on the side with a little bit of cheese.

Speaker 28 The issue is, I think this has been here for a while, so it's a little bit chilly. It'll still be

Speaker 28 let's not get it twisted. It's really, see, I need Markaboli's cargo pocket to maybe do nature's microwave in this entire thing.

Speaker 21 But yeah, I mean, yep, and that's cold when we don't want to eat that.

Speaker 27 Gump, you got a microwave over there?

Speaker 30 There's got to be in the sweet, right?

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 28 So I think the only thing I'm worried, this one feels good.

Speaker 7 We'll figure it out.

Speaker 28 There's a sack of six subs here. Maybe I'll be damn fine.

Speaker 28 But I have not eaten. I have not ate.
Eaten.

Speaker 21 Eaten.

Speaker 28 Eaten? Yeah. I have not eaten strictly because the amount of food that I'm about to have to go eat, you know, because there's a lot of this about to go happen.

Speaker 28 And I owe a lot of people that have a lot of food places around town. And I'm trying to show love and obviously say hello.
And also the food here is so good. So it's like, I literally have not eaten.

Speaker 28 Is that what you're hoping upon?

Speaker 21 Sure.

Speaker 28 I have not eaten in like

Speaker 28 since yesterday before show.

Speaker 28 Last night I had like a couple peanut butter balls before bed.

Speaker 21 Oh, nice.

Speaker 28 You know, a little stuff to keep me over.

Speaker 28 And then this morning, I had three cups of coffee, I think, this morning. A little bit too much.

Speaker 28 As I was drinking the third one, I'm like, what am I doing?

Speaker 21 I need to get a water. I love this.
I love this for you.

Speaker 28 Yeah, and I shrunk another one. So I am very hungry coming out of this show here.
And I'm about to go eat like 15 different restaurants, I think. So I cannot wait for that.
I'm excited for that.

Speaker 28 And, you know, it's nice to be just

Speaker 28 look at the city of Pittsburgh. Could you ask for a better Pittsburgh day than that? Is it gray out? Yeah.

Speaker 28 Is it awesome? Of course. Are we preparing for a massive football weekend?

Speaker 21 Oh,

Speaker 28 let's have one here in Pittsburgh. Lucky to be here.
And I'm going to eat the hell out of all their food. So that's the thing.

Speaker 28 I talked to Narduzi about it when he was talking about going up to Lansing. There's just no Italians up there.
It is. It's a culture shock, AJ.
There's Italians over there in Ohio, right?

Speaker 27 Yeah, there's definitely different pockets where there's more than others, but yeah, there's Italians.

Speaker 21 Youngston. Youngstown, especially the Irish.

Speaker 27 Northeast, yeah, you get it.

Speaker 28 The Irish and the Italian create this city, you know, like that is kind of what a plum, super Italian place. Obviously, there's a lot of Italians everywhere.

Speaker 28 But I am excited to see how many fighting Irish fans there are tomorrow.

Speaker 21 I think a lot.

Speaker 29 What is your I think a lot.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I think so, too.

Speaker 28 I think it's going to be pretty, because the Irish are heavy here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Tony.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I made a mistake when I was talking about Ohio State, Penn State, West Virginia, and Pitt.

Speaker 21 I should have also included Notre Dame Dame because just growing up, like there's just, there's so many Notre Dame fans all over the, all over the country.

Speaker 21 But also when you grow up Italian Catholic town, there's also a lot of Notre Dame fans there. I also made a mistake earlier in the show.
I misread something on the internet.

Speaker 21 A group of monkeys is actually called a troop, not a collective. So I just wanted to get that off my chest as well because it's been.
burning a hole inside me for the last hour.

Speaker 29 Yeah, wow, a troop of chimpanzees.

Speaker 29 That also sounds incredible.

Speaker 28 Yeah, collective sounded right, though, because he sings like the gossip.

Speaker 21 So so I when I looked it up, a group of like when you look up, hey, what's this group of animal?

Speaker 21 Whether it be, you know, a murder for ravens or a troop for monkeys, I believe that is a collective noun. So I read collective and just spit it out of my stupid fucking mouth.

Speaker 21 No, zone.

Speaker 21 So

Speaker 28 it's okay.

Speaker 21 It's okay, dude.

Speaker 21 You've corrected yourself. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 28 That's important. The group of chimpanzees is called a troop or tribe.
Tribe would have been better.

Speaker 21 Tribe would have been cool, too. I think I'm i'm gonna see that i think i'm gonna use the word

Speaker 28 i think i'm gonna use the word tribe uh tomorrow when describing ins or so just a little inside big yeah okay yeah we go that's your that's your ideal right there your go-to yeah oh yeah yeah look at that oh yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 29 that looks good yummy

Speaker 21 look at the bread the mancini's bread yeah the bread looks fantastic oh they make their own bread in-house man well they get it from mancinnies

Speaker 27 down a strip yeah jesus okay i thought i assumed they shifted in from somewhere somehow out of state. Sicily.

Speaker 21 You're kidding me. Out of state?

Speaker 28 You think we're getting shit from out of state for this stuff? What do you right here? It's just fine, buddy. Okay.
Now, I will say, this thing's been sitting at the bottom of this bag.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 29 That came through a little bit, yeah.

Speaker 21 In the bite or the look? In the look. In the look.

Speaker 21 It certainly looked a little back.

Speaker 21 It's definitely a commercial stuff. It's not about how it looks.

Speaker 28 You need to show some respect, please.

Speaker 21 I thought that's part of it. Neil meal.
Neil.

Speaker 21 Is that a flatbread?

Speaker 21 You put that under a bridge? No, it's not. You drove over it in the bus.
At the bottom of a bag. It was at the bottom of a bag.

Speaker 27 Could probably sit on that for two days?

Speaker 21 He's got a lot of rigs. Maybe.

Speaker 21 Maybe.

Speaker 21 All right.

Speaker 21 Oh, my God. It's so good.
So good still.

Speaker 21 Still good.

Speaker 21 All right.

Speaker 28 Have an incredible weekend. Football is going to be amazing.
We're very appreciative of it. We'll be back for Overreaction Monday, game day tomorrow morning.
We'll be live on X

Speaker 28 and on ESPN. It should be an electrifying morning in Pittsburgh.
We'll see you then. Goodbye.
Felt like I really nailed it. Yeah, you did.
And almost choked on you, so

Speaker 28 show will be live on X, though.

Speaker 21 Nice.

Speaker 21 Love that.

Speaker 28 Last week, I had a little,

Speaker 28 I don't know, I guess we would call it internet outage in Indiana right before it went live. So we had to battle through that quickly as it got started.

Speaker 28 And the boys did a great job back at the Thunderdome. Tomorrow we'll be once again live on X from the city of Pittsburgh.
We're going to have a great backdrop. I mean, we're right alongside the river.

Speaker 28 The stadium is going to be right around the corner. The city of Pittsburgh is going to show up in a big way to celebrate football.

Speaker 28 And there's a massive Notre Dame Pit game that's going to be kicking off immediately afterwards. The stars are going to be in abundance.
Pittsburgh royalty is going to be everywhere.

Speaker 28 And we can't wait for the morning. And, you know, there is a dispute going on.

Speaker 28 Between, you know, two parties, and there's a lot of people missing ball and missing the things that they love. Just know that on X tomorrow, game day, we'll be live and for free.

Speaker 28 Shout out to ESPN, Jimmy Petaro, Burke Magnus, Old Faso, and everybody that says, yeah, let's continue to do that. That's good for our fans.
That's good for football.

Speaker 28 And that's good for unifying ball fans, which is certainly something that we need at this point. So we'll be live on X tomorrow.

Speaker 28 And it should be a scene tomorrow, I believe, is how they describe these types of things, AJ.

Speaker 27 Yeah, I think it's going to be an interesting collection.

Speaker 27 I know we talked about it. 50-50, you think, fans pit to Notre Dame?

Speaker 27 I want to know in the stadium when's it going to be loudest when who's on you know who say notre dame's on offense are the pitts fan pit fans going to be louder than when

Speaker 28 pitts offense constant noise the whole time yeah incredible atmosphere like the world i think it will be incredible atmosphere for real i do wonder what the percentage would be who would know that seat geek would know that and right now

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Speaker 21 W.

Speaker 21 That's right, AJ. Are we going back?

Speaker 28 There was an event that was going to be had. Well, I've heard we've been there six times.
Somebody said that Kim Kardashian.

Speaker 21 I heard we are going back. We are going back.
Who?

Speaker 27 Who's doing it? Do we know the guys?

Speaker 21 United States of fucking America. U.S.

Speaker 29 base. A chimpanzee that escaped the Indianapolis Zoo.
Yeah.

Speaker 27 They used to take chimps into space right before they took humans just to test, see if it works.

Speaker 21 Just make sure they explore.

Speaker 27 Were they good with the joystick? Are they good pilots?

Speaker 21 Great pilots.

Speaker 27 That's what I heard.

Speaker 21 Yeah. Brilliant.

Speaker 28 They don't get distracted. I guess no chimpanzees have ADD.
So that's a big part of it.

Speaker 31 For whatever reason, too, they were just excellent at being able to land a lunar module

Speaker 31 and actually lock it into the dock.

Speaker 30 It took a while for our actual male and female pilots to train.

Speaker 27 They trained our astronauts. Correct.

Speaker 21 Exactly. Yeah, dude.
Cool.

Speaker 21 They did this. The more you learn.

Speaker 21 Exactly. Sign language.
Everyone was like, holy shit. Yep.

Speaker 28 Yeah, whoa, we didn't do that when we were going to space.

Speaker 21 Why is he still

Speaker 21 putting dice on it? You just have to info over still.

Speaker 28 Well, the pooping thing is quite an issue for a lot of animals, like fat corgis and ultra chimpanzees, I think.

Speaker 21 But

Speaker 28 didn't we just caught

Speaker 28 something? I just saw something.

Speaker 21 Bezos. Yeah,

Speaker 29 Bezos Blue Origin became the second company to be able to successfully land the rocket after it took off. Yes.

Speaker 28 But didn't that catch something from the moon or Mars or something? I think there was something alongside of that with another place that

Speaker 28 whether it could catch something that comes back or it did catch something that's coming back. I'm not sure.

Speaker 31 Yeah, the thing I read was that it's it's like testing to see i guess like the something about the sun basically changing like the atmosphere around mars and like why that is like i think that's what the ultimate goal is i don't know if that's actually happened yet but apparently scientists have noticed like hey something's going on with the suns and it's it's changing what's going on with mars right now

Speaker 28 that was an interesting theory that i um I didn't really think of is like the sun basically took Mars' atmosphere. Yeah.
I think is basically what this talked about. Correct.

Speaker 28 So we see it as the red, we see it as a red planet. What this particular tweet that I read in Who Knows If It's Real, basically said it's red because it was fried to a crisp, basically, by the sun.

Speaker 28 The sun basically just took its entire atmosphere, which makes you wonder, did they,

Speaker 28 you know, did they potentially go in, you know, because the sun not in there, and did they do their entire thing? Hopefully we learn that.

Speaker 28 You think it's in our lifetime we learn about any of the other shit?

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 27 I mean, they'll be going to Mars in our lifetime. They'll be going to Mars within the next five, 10 years, right? Sending humans.

Speaker 28 How long does it take to get there?

Speaker 21 Like nine months? Nine years? No.

Speaker 27 It's like a nine-month ride, one-way or a year, one month.

Speaker 28 That's the avatar you're talking about.

Speaker 21 They're trying to train. That's a girl who's training to do it.

Speaker 21 She knows she's not coming back.

Speaker 27 Yeah, we don't have one-way missions. We know that.
They say that.

Speaker 29 I think in the next gener, like in your guys' kids' generation is when it'll happen in a lifetime. I don't know if we might be on the

Speaker 29 very end of when it's happening.

Speaker 27 When we go there and when we habitate and we build things and we live there.

Speaker 21 You're saying

Speaker 27 to AJ Hawks, to AJ point uh internet tells us it takes seven to ten months to get to mars aj i like that i stopped i like that because i started i got overwhelmed when i heard like people were going to be in a spaceship for nine months traveling one way and then you get there knowing you have nine or ten eleven months back like that's that's a mental test that's more like that right there freaks me out well maybe they put him like jacob sully in one of those tubes and it's kind of put you to sleep for six seven months yeah i've been crushing

Speaker 28 nice Yeah, and you don't even know. It's just like kind of a sleepy six months, take a nap, wake up, we're two months out from Mars.

Speaker 21 Okay, well, I need to learn a lot.

Speaker 28 What are we doing up there? And then on the way back, yep, you know the deal. We're putting your ass to sleep until we get to around the moon, and we'll wake you up, send you back into America.

Speaker 28 Now, the thought on that just becoming reality is kind of what Elon is talking about, right? He's talking about just being able to pick up and just

Speaker 27 we're going to have to, right? He's saying, like, there's going to be a time we have to go live on another planet.

Speaker 28 So he's an alien, right?

Speaker 21 I mean, sure.

Speaker 21 Precisely. Hybrid.
All right.

Speaker 28 Let's take a break. And then on the other side, let's make our picks.
And then then let's have a hell of a friday shall we aj and by the way

Speaker 21 by the way yeah

Speaker 27 rest in peace oh you already finished housed

Speaker 28 already yeah it doesn't matter if it's sitting at the bottom of a bag and it's crushing it's a little bit chilly and it's supposed to be hot

Speaker 28 still delightful around here still number one out here

Speaker 28 all right let's get to a break on the other side we'll make our picks and then we'll get the hell out of here for the greatest weekend in the history of weekends because it's the next weekend weekend.

Speaker 28 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
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Speaker 2 Feel good Friday, November 14th.

Speaker 3 This is the Pat McAfee Show. I'm AJ Hawks, sitting in for Pat here in Indy.

Speaker 5 There's a big one this weekend, boys.

Speaker 1 Football!

Speaker 5 Oh, we got Goop. What's up, Goopy? I see you.
Your dolphins actually looking pretty good. We'll see what happens in the

Speaker 5 picks these days. I might

Speaker 5 actually jump over and pick the Dolphins here, I think.

Speaker 7 Okay, great work, AJ. Yeah, this is Gumpy.

Speaker 1 Okay, Gumpy is the greatest internet splunker on earth from Canada.

Speaker 7 He is the Miami Dolphins here. My name is Pat Academy.
Thank you so much. I am from this city in which I am currently live from for game day here for Pitt, Notre Dame tomorrow.

Speaker 7 We love the way AJ kind of handles his business, doesn't he?

Speaker 1 Hi, baby Hogger. It's hard.

Speaker 5 Gump is such a presence. You know, sorry about that.
He's such a presence.

Speaker 5 I lift my head up and I see Gump right here.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I understand. And we get excited when we see Gump, but maybe not everybody knows who the hell Gump is.

Speaker 7 Well, Gump is here to help us navigate this NFL Sunday slate and make sure we're getting all the right picks. It's not just us here you see on the screen.

Speaker 7 There's the toxic table as well at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Boys, we need all the info we can get whenever we're making these picks because we're trying to have a perfect slate today, Con Man.

Speaker 2 Oh, hell yeah. We got it all locked in.
A lot of trade, a lot of stuff moving, actually. Not trades at all.
It's way past the deadline, but injuries, things of that nature.

Speaker 2 We got it.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 7 Ty Schmidt, I hope you and the Packers faithful didn't hear what a radio guy down in Atlanta said.

Speaker 7 I don't know if you heard what he said.

Speaker 7 He basically said

Speaker 7 source

Speaker 7 that he trusts and he respects are saying maybe LaFleur not that sweet up there in Green Bay. Listen to this, Ty.

Speaker 1 I got an interesting phone call earlier in the week.

Speaker 14 Oh, yeah. From somebody I trust.

Speaker 1 Okay. In the media.
Okay.

Speaker 36 Who told me to put something on my radar.

Speaker 4 I said, okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Who? Put it in the back of my mind.

Speaker 7 Now, the problem is I'll forget.

Speaker 36 So I had to bring it up here or else it would just, it would escape.

Speaker 7 I was told by somebody to keep an eye on Matt LaFleur.

Speaker 36 And I said, tell me more. Because we're here in the midst of the Raheem Morris discussion about short-term, long-term.

Speaker 36 We know the Raheem Morris era will end at some point with him being fired, whether it's at the end of this year, I don't know, Monday, next year, five games into 2026. I don't know.

Speaker 14 Holy shit.

Speaker 36 But I was told that the Packers, who are one of the more stable franchises in all of the NFL,

Speaker 36 might make a switch at quarterback or at head coach, excuse me, if they don't make the playoffs, which I was shocked to hear.

Speaker 36 Matt LaFleur's record with the Green Bay Packers is 72, 36, and 1 in seven seasons. That's one of the great starts to a career anybody's ever had.

Speaker 1 And he's handled the whole transition to Jordan Love thing beautifully.

Speaker 1 There's never drama.

Speaker 36 They don't attract free agents. That's why the Micah thing was so big for them because they just don't do stuff like that.

Speaker 36 But I was told that he still has a connection with the Falcons, a good relationship, and would be interested in coming back here.

Speaker 36 And I will tell you 100%, that is the perfect choice for this franchise that could save them. Like I'm talking about if Green Bay was ever,

Speaker 36 and this to me would be short-sighted, if they're ever in the position where like we just can't move forward with Matt LaFleur, if Raheem's employed and Matt LaFleur is not, Raheem's unemployed the next day.

Speaker 17 You go get Matt LaFleur as your head coach, play sheet in his hand, bring stability in a way, you ready for this?

Speaker 36 That Dan Reeves brought it in the 90s when the Falcons were following Jerry Jerry Glanville and June Jones, and they needed stability.

Speaker 1 Dan was further along in his career, but remember what Dan brought?

Speaker 7 Experience, winning.

Speaker 36 He could work with young quarterbacks. Matt LaFleur can bring all that stuff because you and I both know this, Charles.
After you go back-to-back first-time head coaches, what do you have to do?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, you got to go with experienced guy.

Speaker 36 I think Arthur's going to say we need a commodity. Now, my fear is that would be Mike McCarthy, and that would scare the hell out of me because Mike McCarthy doesn't do much for me.

Speaker 36 But if Matt LaFleur, if what I was told is true, that the Packers would even consider moving on from LaFleur if they miss the playoffs, if I'm the Falcons, snap him up, no brainer.

Speaker 7 Hey, turn off nose to turn off nose down there at 680, the fan in Atlanta. And Ty, do you hear the way other teams are speaking about your coach? And does that make you change your tune a little bit?

Speaker 7 I heard a good record there, Gump. Did our years, were we the only ones that heard that record?

Speaker 17 That is a good record.

Speaker 7 70, 20, and 1 or something like that, I believe is what he's saying. And then I heard somebody fart into a microphone.
I don't know if that was in Atlanta or back there at the Thunderdome.

Speaker 7 But Ty, that's who your head coach is. Let's remember that.
You know, one team's potential perspective trash is another's, what do they say? One trash, one treasure.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 The other way. Does that change the way you think about this season, Ty, knowing now how Atlanta's turnoff potentially feels about LaFleur?

Speaker 15 I mean, it certainly is a bit startling, and that makes sense. You know, I could see Matt LaFleur while his team is 5-3 in one and in the middle of a division.

Speaker 15 race and trying to get into the playoffs. I could see him being like, you know what? I wouldn't mind going back and coaching in Atlanta.
I could see that happening. So that certainly makes sense.

Speaker 15 No, you know, hey, listen, this would be a home run for Atlanta.

Speaker 15 If this were to happen and Matt LaFleur were to be let go and Atlanta hires him, I mean, you want to talk about winning the offseason, winning the coaching cycle, certainly.

Speaker 15 But what I'm more concerned with is every opportunity Peter Schraeger gets, he's opening up his goddamn mouth and saying, hey, Jeff Hafley to the Giants.

Speaker 15 You know, just last year, Ben Johnson had the opportunity to go into Chicago with the Lions, and remember, they beat them like a drum.

Speaker 15 He did everything in his playbook, and that really wowed Bears' ownership and, you know, everyone in that organization. That's why they went to hire him.

Speaker 15 And Jeff Hafley has that opportunity to do that this Sunday. So the floor thing is one thing.
Listen, if they don't get

Speaker 15 the offense fixed, his ass probably is going to get fired.

Speaker 15 And if they don't make the playoffs, I think it's...

Speaker 15 very fair to say that Carmen Policy is going to say, all right, pal, there's a reason I didn't give you an extension before the season hit the fucking bricks.

Speaker 15 But I need Schraeger to stop trying to get Jeff Hafley out of town as the defensive coordinator on every single one of these fucking shows.

Speaker 15 He's been doing it for several days now, and I'm sick and tired of it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think the conversation around policy making moves is certainly a policy that we like. Him not giving the extension to Gutenkuntz and LaFleur was almost a message, don't you think, AJ?

Speaker 7 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 5 I mean, when you go in there, it's like a prove-it-year, I feel like, isn't it?

Speaker 5 Hey, you go out there, and you I don't know exactly how far he has to go to make Gutenkoots and the rest of the organization happy. I mean, how does that look like?

Speaker 5 How many you got to get to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't know about the Super Bowl, but like there has to be some sort of growth. Like, they've done the whole, hey, we're gonna make the playoffs, win a game, and then that's it.

Speaker 5 You definitely need to start scoring more points, obviously.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that, of course, but also like policy is a dog from day one. Didn't he call in and say, like, yeah, we're not just gonna extend these guys for no reason.

Speaker 8 Like, they gotta to prove it.

Speaker 23 They already had that.

Speaker 15 Sorry, go ahead, Pat.

Speaker 7 No, I was going to say, and then he makes that huge mica play. It's like, hey, we are different than what we used to be, is what he's saying, Ty, to kind of echo what Connor just said.

Speaker 13 Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 15 And this has not been the way the Packers have operated, obviously, for quite some time.

Speaker 15 But when they made the playoffs a couple years ago, you know, in Love's first year, like, that was like the big surprise. Like, wow, this team, this super young team, they won a playoff game.

Speaker 15 But, you know, it's the same deal with the Steelers, like, and the Packers. Like, you,

Speaker 15 after a while, getting to the playoffs and then getting beat like a drum in the first round, like that doesn't mean shit. This team is, you know, one of the most storied franchises in the NFL.

Speaker 15 Like, you need to at least make a deep run into the playoffs because, again, Jordan Love isn't on a rookie contract. He's making $55 million a year.
You traded for Micah Parson.

Speaker 15 You have two of the highest paid guys in the NFL on both sides. So, like, you got to go do something with that.

Speaker 15 And I don't think getting into the first round of the playoffs and getting beat is like, people want to see a Super Bowl

Speaker 7 let's talk about Super Bowl teams let's talk about the Sunday slate last night we both picked the New England Patriots to cover by 12 and a half they did the hammer

Speaker 7 boys told us the under was the right bet that hit as well are we seeing the board better than ever we shall see look at DoorDash delivering for everybody on their game days we appreciate that we're 1-0 heading into the weekend Washington Commanders taking on the Dolphins Dolphins favored by 2.5 in Madrid, Spain, 9.30 a.m.

Speaker 7 kickoff, which is obviously spectacular for ball fans. Dumpy, let's hear.
What are your thoughts? You're favored in a game.

Speaker 9 Way to go, dude.

Speaker 1 Way to go. Go, go.

Speaker 12 I don't know if everybody knows this, but Miami actually been adopted as Spain's team.

Speaker 8 They're going to continue to.

Speaker 7 Why would you do that to a new country?

Speaker 1 Well, they're just

Speaker 1 like that. Where'd you hear that going? That's how it is.

Speaker 12 We're going to be going there every year. We gave up a home game to go there this year, this is what's going to happen.

Speaker 7 No, but Spain is like a great place. Remember, we've been seeing out of the Espanol following with J.J.
Watt. In the morning we drink coffee

Speaker 1 in the morning.

Speaker 1 And then we play soccer and we win. Everyone is

Speaker 1 Espanol.

Speaker 1 Espanol.

Speaker 7 Looky, looky, lucky.

Speaker 1 It's another fucking goal.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Like, we like these people, don't we? We like Spain.

Speaker 1 Why would we

Speaker 7 place the Dolphins upon them? That's like the kids that are born Jets fans. We watched them last week with Sauce Gardner when he got traded.
And they're running around crying.

Speaker 7 And everybody's like, yo, that's a First Amendment kid. Just get used to it.
That's kind of what it is. Why are we doing that to Spain? You wouldn't wish this life upon an entire country, would you?

Speaker 7 Why would you say that?

Speaker 12 I mean, if I was a fan in Spain and I just saw what the Dolphins did to the Bills and they're marching into Spain, I'd be happy to then be my squad, you know?

Speaker 7 Two and a half point favorites. You like that or not?

Speaker 12 Yeah, I mean, they love us there. Malik Washington, he's going to score a touchdown.
He got a jersey from Fernando Torres, Liverpool Athletico-Madrid legend.

Speaker 7 Okay, AJ, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 5 I'm not going to lie. I've been leaning dolphins for a while, but you know what? I got to trust my instincts.
I'm taking the commanders on this one.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 You can get three if you like commanders.

Speaker 5 I'll take commanders at plus three then, yeah.

Speaker 7 All right, I'll take commanders plus three as well.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go to the next game.

Speaker 7 Chargers versus the Jaguars. Chargers favored by two and a half going in the Duval.
Obviously, heartbreak last week for Jacksonville in the end. Chargers starting to find themselves.

Speaker 7 Anything we need to know about this line tone, Dig? 69% on the Chargers we see there.

Speaker 4 69% on the Chargers.

Speaker 4 It is 2.5%

Speaker 6 or 3.

Speaker 4 So you get Chargers minus 2.5 or the Jaguars plus the 3. Obviously, we know with the Chargers, they had their offensive line issues as far as injuries are concerned and how PFF feels about them.

Speaker 4 But other than that, everything is pretty up and up as far as the starters and things like that, as you know.

Speaker 7 Travis Hunter, obviously out. Trevor Lawrence, what's the question for him? Is he a guy? Is he not a guy? Well, the Chargers defense is certainly problematic.
AJ, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 5 I have a hard time picking against it. I really like this Chargers team, but for whatever reason, I like the Jags here at plus three at home.

Speaker 7 Okay, you got the Jags plus three. I'll take the Chargers minus two and a half.
Carolina Panthers taking on the Atlanta Falcons. Both these teams, I guess, who knows? More so.

Speaker 7 Carolina Panthers feel like they could be good. Atlanta Falcons down up, down up.
They're like a Catholic church session with the way they kind of go about playing this season.

Speaker 7 Ty Schmidt, Carolina Panthers, Atlanta Falcons, your immediate lean is what?

Speaker 15 I'm going to say Panthers. You know, I know Rico Dowdell is once again a bit banged up, but I think last week was a little bit of an apparition.

Speaker 15 You know, like the Panthers have been kind of up and down, but the Falcons are just like one week, and it really hasn't been like this for a while.

Speaker 15 Early on in the season, one week they looked like world beaters, and then they looked like shit. And then I feel like they've kind of bottomed out in the last few weeks.
So I like the Panthers.

Speaker 2 Something we need to think about, too, as the Falcons continue to play against the Panthers is the Rams have the Falcons first-round pick.

Speaker 2 So right now, the Rams have a top 10 pick in the NFL draft, and they're also a Super Bowl favorite.

Speaker 2 So the the Falcons are either going to really screw the entire NFC by sucking and then giving the Rams a top 10 pick, letting them get a great player, and or their future at quarterback.

Speaker 2 So, you know, Atlanta might need to pick it up a little bit here.

Speaker 2 We're going to need you here. Yeah, they're 10th right now.
A loss to the Panthers would not be good because I don't think their schedule is too favorable.

Speaker 7 Certainly in play to potentially get a top five pick. I mean, depending upon what the rest of the year looks like.
I think there's going to be some draft conversation on the show tomorrow.

Speaker 7 I'm happy that we got that list in there. Who do you like? How do you like it, Gums?

Speaker 12 I like the Falcons just because they're at home. They seem to show up at home, and they lost 30 to nothing away to the Panthers.
Maybe a little revenge here.

Speaker 7 AJ, who do you like?

Speaker 5 I like the Falcons here as well. I mean, three and a half feels like a lot, but I will take the Falcons at home.

Speaker 5 I think Raheem Morris, he sees those comments being made about his job and his job security. He wants to make sure he gets a win and shuts that up.

Speaker 7 Okay, can I get four or four and a half on this, or is it just three and a half?

Speaker 4 Then a half across the board.

Speaker 7 Is Dowdo not playing? Is that what you said?

Speaker 15 He's banged up, but I think all indications are that he should be able to go, but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

Speaker 7 I'll take the Carolina Panthers plus three and a half.

Speaker 8 Yeah, post-Germany one o'clock game.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 6 that's tough for a learner.

Speaker 1 Overtime game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, good point. Overtime Germany game.

Speaker 4 Second flight out, we've learned.

Speaker 6 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I just saw them play good against the Colts.

Speaker 5 How much do they they have left in that tank?

Speaker 2 Colts kind of bottled up Bijan though. Raheem Moore's knows too.
Now, like, dude, if I don't win, freaking Mountain Florida, Coach.

Speaker 7 Chernoff says it.

Speaker 1 Gotta happen. Done deal.

Speaker 7 All right, give me the, I'll take the Panthers. I'll take the Panthers plus three and a half.

Speaker 7 And on this field right behind us, the Cincinnati Bengals will be traveling to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 7 Now, it'll come one day after Notre Dame Pitt on this exact same field that has certainly been questioned before. So look for it to be a little bit of a mutter on Sunday.
Who does that help?

Speaker 7 Who does that hurt? Four and a half is the current spread with the Steelers being the favorite. Ton Diggs, what should we be thinking in this?

Speaker 7 As 66% of the bets are on the Cincinnati Bengals plus four and a half.

Speaker 4 Yes, everybody loves the Bengals. I saw for the Bengals.
Shmar Stewart is out as well as Trey Hendrickson. So neither of those guys will be back for the defense that has not been great so far.

Speaker 6 Steelers in the one o'clock window, right where we want them.

Speaker 4 And we already blew a primetime game against the Bengals this year, so we already got that out of the way. So I'm actually feeling pretty good about this one.

Speaker 7 Connor, man, I'm sorry, Connor, what is the story Joe Burrow's been practicing the last few days? Doesn't mean he's playing, but just means he's back to potentially playing.

Speaker 7 Is that the story we're getting?

Speaker 2 Yeah, bingo, three straight days of practice for Joe Burrow. He's already been designated to return off the IR, so his window's open.

Speaker 2 It's looking like it's not going to be this week, but it seems as though next week

Speaker 2 that he might practice. I mean, I mean, play rather.
If you do three straight, if he's doing stuff like this on a turf toe, he must be pretty healthy.

Speaker 2 Everything we heard from Jason Glazer kind of indicates that he is feeling good and he attacked his rehab.

Speaker 2 Kind of butchered that, but whatever.

Speaker 2 But so I would assume that the vibes, at least in the Bengals, are pretty good. And they know, hey, if we win one of these next three at least, and then Burrow comes back, then they got a shot.

Speaker 13 Why is he wearing green sweats?

Speaker 7 Why is he wearing green sweats? What's going on out there?

Speaker 5 Yeah, what kind of sweats are the other guys wearing?

Speaker 1 Black. Just team issue.

Speaker 16 Black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black.

Speaker 12 Look at Joey Flock moving.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why is he wearing green?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I don't like that at all.

Speaker 15 He's a fashion guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 He's got that pizzazz.

Speaker 5 At least they're not super baggy, though.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 7 This is... What do we...

Speaker 1 It is kind of weird.

Speaker 7 Give me the Pittsburgh Steelers whatever.

Speaker 7 I don't like that that's happening.

Speaker 1 I don't like...

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's not how I...

Speaker 1 Man, I just feel like... A lot of coaches would send you back in.

Speaker 7 A lot of coaches would send you back in and get your team issue on and since it seems like such a small detail, but I feel like I just learned a lot about Joey Burrow and the Bengals right there, AJ.

Speaker 7 Like, legitimately, I feel like I just learned a lot about it over there. Yeah, just by the color of the sweatpants.
And people are going to say that's ridiculous and absurd for me to say. I get it.

Speaker 7 You've never been a part of an NFL team either, but like, that's a decision and a choice. And then everybody else sees it as well.
I don't know if I like that at all. And I love Joey Burrow.

Speaker 7 I feel like I'm one of his biggest fans, actually.

Speaker 7 Give me the Steelers. If that's allowed to be happening over there, they obviously got everything out of control.

Speaker 12 I'm sure Zach Talon, Zoc Taylor, put the hammer down, though, after he saw that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he might have actually put the pants in his locker for him to wear.

Speaker 7 He needs to be dressing different to everybody else because he is, by the way, Joey Burrow is different to everybody else. Flacco's certainly been great.

Speaker 7 This Pittsburgh Steelers defense, you know, throughout the entirety of the season hasn't been fantastic, but as of the last couple weeks, they've been much better.

Speaker 7 Will Joey Flack get the Pittsburgh Steelers back-to-back as a Cincinnati Bengals quarterback? I don't think so. I like the Pittsburgh Steelers minus four and a half here at Ackershire Stadium.

Speaker 7 What are your thoughts, AJ?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm going to go Steelers minus four and a half at home. I feel like the Steelers have to find a way to double Jamar this game or whatever.

Speaker 5 Remember last time they

Speaker 5 were the same gameplay. It was a Jamar show for no doubt.
He's going to get hiss.

Speaker 5 Maybe they won't give him 12 or 14 catches.

Speaker 1 Why is he wanting to get that?

Speaker 5 Someone might have poured hot coffee or something on his original pants, his black one, right, as they were going out to practice.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but it's their black sweats, so you can have coffee.

Speaker 1 It's probably hot as hot all over my dong area.

Speaker 5 Like, I got to change.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Too hot.

Speaker 8 Bengals logo.

Speaker 7 Then it'll be too cold. Maybe it'll be too cold.
Because once you get hot coffee on your dong area, it's hot.

Speaker 6 You get anything gossiping.

Speaker 1 He's sick all of a sudden. I feel cold.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. Maybe it was coffee.

Speaker 7 But maybe it was mayonnaise, too, dropping out of one of these Rudy sub sandwiches he was eating.

Speaker 7 And anytime you get mayonnaise on the groin area, especially with black sweats, everybody automatically assumes this guy's got cum on his face.

Speaker 1 So maybe,

Speaker 1 maybe that's what happens. Maybe

Speaker 5 that's true. Imagine this conversation.
He was running with white mayonnaise all over his dong area.

Speaker 1 Pat, you would agree with that.

Speaker 6 Maybe they were getting started excited to be back playing ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And the Bengals don't want that to be the narrative about the entire thing, and neither does Joey. Okay, so I get it now.
All right, I didn't even think about that being an outcome.

Speaker 7 I'm happy we kind of worked it through. He dropped mayonnaise on his pants.
We've all been there. People judge you.

Speaker 7 He said, give me the green sweats, even though everybody else is wearing black sweats. That's Joey B football.
Okay, we appreciate him doing that. And Justin, seems like we all like the Steelers.

Speaker 7 Let's go. Houston Texans, favored by five and a half, headed into the team that has the projected number one overall pick again,

Speaker 7 the Tennessee Titans. Anything we need to know about this one, Tone?

Speaker 4 Titans coming off of a buy.

Speaker 4 We all know how good Coach McCoy is off of the buy.

Speaker 4 And then C.J. Stroud is still out with the concussion, so we will have Davis Dougie Mills starting again on the road for the Texans.

Speaker 7 Top 26 zip in the fourth, right, for the Houston Texans. That's what they're coming off.
So what that sounds like to me is Dougie Mills figured it out.

Speaker 7 And Dougie Mills going to Music City, I think he's about to sing quite a tune. I'll take the Houston Texans minus five, if I can get it.

Speaker 6 Yes, yes, you can.

Speaker 7 Minus five Houston Texans in Nashville, even though I love that city. Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 5 I'm going to take the Houston Texans minus five. I think old Davis Dougie Mills showed us some stuff last week.
I think he's going to continue to ride that heater.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I was about to say, not just last week.

Speaker 1 Dougie's been putting paper.

Speaker 7 We like him.

Speaker 12 I love Dougie Mills. He should be starting for an NFL team.

Speaker 1 Well, he is.

Speaker 22 Full-time. Not my team, but somebody's.

Speaker 1 How many teams you got?

Speaker 7 You guys would fucking love to have

Speaker 22 two is spinning it right now.

Speaker 7 I understand he's spinning it, but for the good of Spain and their football fanhoods.

Speaker 22 Spain would love Dougie Mills.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Dougie Mills' neck in Spain. They might try and keep him there.

Speaker 7 Ooh, all right, let's go to the next game. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Buffalo Bills, J.J.
Watt is on the call. Both these teams coming off a loss.

Speaker 7 63% of the bets are in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers getting 6.5, or can they get even more?

Speaker 4 No, it's actually, I'm seeing five and a halfs across the board, and there's one six out there now.

Speaker 7 Okay, so now it's down to six, I guess, is what you can get if you like the Buffalo Bills. AJ, your thoughts on how the game's going to go?

Speaker 5 Man, the Buffalo Bills are, they're, I mean, I was picking them to win the Super Bowl before the season.

Speaker 5 I still don't count that out, but I like the Tampa Bay Bucks here coming off a loss, getting what, six and a half.

Speaker 6 You get six.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Bucky Irving is out. Chris Godwin is out.
I believe Hassan Reddick is also out.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure about Anthony Nelson, the player who got one of BA's balls a few weeks back for his performance against the Saints.

Speaker 2 And then Dalton Kincaid also did not practice yesterday. Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 2 He is out. Another D-lineman for them, Federion Mathis.
Unbelievable spelling.

Speaker 2 He not playing is actually huge because they are so banged up on the D-line for Buffalo.

Speaker 7 Okay, so I like the Buffalo Beatles. Minus five is what I heard I can get.
AJ, who are you on?

Speaker 5 I'm on the Tampa Bay Bucks here at what?

Speaker 8 Plus six.

Speaker 5 Plus six, okay.

Speaker 7 Okay, Green Bay Packers fresh off a great performance, taking on the New York Giants, favored by seven and a half at MetLife. 63% of the bets are on the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 7 Ty Schmidt, it doesn't sound like you've been as optimistic about the Green Bay Packers long term, but seven and a half point favorites on the road with 63% of the people betting on him.

Speaker 7 Feels like the rest of the world likes Green Bay this weekend. How do you feel about it?

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, I guess there is a part of me that thinks this could be like the Jameis coming out party where he throws for a bunch of touchdowns and a bunch of yards.

Speaker 15 But we were talking before the show, and Connor mentioned, you know, in the wake of Trayon Henderson having that three touchdown game last night, B.A.

Speaker 15 saying how rookies basically just need to be ready to go like right now. The Packers, I think, expected a lot of Matthew Golden.

Speaker 15 He didn't play last week, but he's a guy they need to get going this week big time. Ever since Tucker Kraft got hurt, they haven't really been able to run the ball.
Like they need Matthew Golden.

Speaker 15 I kind of expect him to have a big game.

Speaker 15 And yeah, I think this is a good bounce back spot for the Packers because everyone is kind of, you know, potentially exaggerating their demise pretty early here.

Speaker 7 AJ, who do you like?

Speaker 5 I like the Packers here.

Speaker 5 I think, you know, Jameis might, he might have a little bit of magic in him, him, but I like what this Packers defense is able to do, and hopefully the offense finds a way to get going.

Speaker 5 Six and a half.

Speaker 7 Okay, so I was saying the Packers at minus six and a half alongside A.J. Hawk.
Chicago Bears, Minnesota Vikings, NFC North battle. 61% of the money is on the Chicago Bears heading into J.J.

Speaker 7 McCarthy's world. I'm sorry.
Nine's world there. Nine is favored by two and a half.
What am I not seeing here, Ty Schmidt?

Speaker 15 Bears defense is very, very, very banged up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they just announced TJ Edwards in the middle.

Speaker 2 He's their leader on defense. He's a middle linebacker.
He is out on Sunday.

Speaker 7 JJ's going to get a win, and it just feels like that's who J.J. McCarthy is.

Speaker 12 I already beat the Bears once in Chicago.

Speaker 15 That was his coming out party.

Speaker 1 That's where

Speaker 23 12 of 20.

Speaker 15 That's when 9 was born, if you will.

Speaker 7 No, 9's been there, brother. Nine's won a national championship.
9 was on the bench

Speaker 7 last year getting rehabilitation, but it was always down in there. And it's all about controlling 9 so we can keep the competitive stamina and the spirit throughout all four quarters.

Speaker 7 How do you keep nine on track? Well, if nine wins more games, people are going to have to respect nine and JJ for the time that he does on a football field.

Speaker 7 I guess I'll take the Minnesota Vikings minus two and a half, even though I don't love it at all. I love Ben Johnson.

Speaker 7 I'd love to hear good, better, best, never lay race, and do good is better, better is best, because I love that quote personally. I've certainly known it for a long, long time.
No, fuck that.

Speaker 1 Give it to the Bears. Yeah,

Speaker 13 also,

Speaker 2 for the Vikings,

Speaker 2 TJ Edwards being out for the Bears, big deal. Jonathan Grenard hasn't practiced this week for the Vikings, so not sure if he's going to be good to go.

Speaker 7 I just thought of like, no, the Chicago Bears stole that one last week. Give me the Vikings.
I'm going to take the Vikings minus two and a half. I'm going to take the Vikings minus two and a half.

Speaker 7 Still believe in the Bears long term, but I like the Vikings this weekend to win that game. What do you think, AJ?

Speaker 5 I'm kind of with you. I mean, your waffling back and forth got me.
It got me thinking for sure, but I was leaning Vikings early. I'm going to stick with it.
Vikings minus two and a half at home.

Speaker 7 This is a good football game. This is a good football game.
We like that this football game is happening.

Speaker 7 A lot of them across the slate, including a San Francisco 49ers of Brock Purdy, I do believe, favored by two and a half, flying into beautiful Phoenix, Arizona to be taking on the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 7 72% of the money is on the San Francisco 49ers, and Brock Purdy will return as the San Francisco 49ers starting quarterback versus Cardinals. Kyle Shanahan told 49ers game plan, which is a great show.

Speaker 7 We love 49ers game plan.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 We turn that show on every week.

Speaker 7 And we, because of the U2B SPN dispute, we've actually had to find different ways to watch 49ers game plan.

Speaker 7 And we've certainly been able to dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge our way to being able to hear the 49ers game plan show because that one's the fucking show, isn't it? Especially with Shanahan.

Speaker 7 When he stops by, he always says something.

Speaker 12 It's good ball talk.

Speaker 7 He's got such a good flat billow on. He always looks cool.
And he says, Brock Purdy is our quarterback. I think Brock Purdy crushes this weekend.

Speaker 7 Give me the San Francisco 49ers minus two and a half, AJ.

Speaker 5 Yep, give me the San Francisco 49ers as well. Brock Purdy, I think he's been.
Can you imagine how like the pent-up energy this dude has to get back in the field?

Speaker 5 He's heard Con Man say that that Mac's taking his gig and he's not going to have a job anymore. So he's ready to get out there and show us that he's still the man.

Speaker 7 Somebody's playing drums on the microphone. If you could stop doing that, that'd be great.
You're blowing out my eardrums. The Seattle Seahawks are taking on the LA Rams.
75%

Speaker 7 of the bets are on the Seattle Seahawks. That's wild to think about as the Rams are favored by three and a half and they're going to be in their midnight mode jerseys.

Speaker 7 Matthew Stafford's going to look so damn cool. I cannot wait to see how that turns out in SoFi.
Four o'clock slate, absolutely loaded this week, we feel.

Speaker 7 Seattle Seahawks, one of the best teams in ball. 75% of the money is on the Seattle Seahawks.
Is it plus three and a half, plus four? What is the most we can get, Tone?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you can get the most you could get if you want the Seahawks is plus three and a half or minus three for the Rams.

Speaker 7 Okay, so give me plus three and a half Seattle Seahawks. LA Rams might win the game, but this is a a two for them.
I don't want to put it on the official record.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 7 No, never mind. Completely forget what I just said.
Seattle Seahawks plus three and a half.

Speaker 1 I like where they're at.

Speaker 11 I like where they're at a lot.

Speaker 7 I don't know who wins, but I like the Seattle Seahawks plus three and a half. I think this is an road game.
McDonald on the road has been damn near unstoppable.

Speaker 7 And yeah, I think this is a big one for Sam Darnold to continue to be Sam Darnold of now as opposed to Sam Darnold of yesteryear. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 5 Man, this is a tough one, too, when you think about it.

Speaker 5 I mean, the Seattle defense what scored twice last week I like the Rams here I can get the Rams at minus three tone is that right okay I'll take the Rams at home and what are they called again what's their their dark uniforms midnight midnight mode I like midnight mode midnight mode matthew stafford he stays on track to win the mvp possibly give me the rams

Speaker 7 Okay, there's a chance both. Con man, you were going to say something, I think, before I cut you off.

Speaker 1 No, no, all good.

Speaker 2 Not at all. But Sam Darnold, I think they were talking about it earlier on the broadcast TV, whatever the fuck.

Speaker 2 It's kind of a redemption day game for Darnold. Last time

Speaker 2 the Vikings, when he was with the Vikings, they went and played the Rams. He got absolutely shit kicked.
So they were talking about that angle.

Speaker 2 Also for the Seattle Seahawks, now the second week with Rashid Shaheed in the lineup. So their offense probably going to be firing on a much higher cylinder.
And of course, the Cooper Cup return.

Speaker 2 We talked about it yesterday. That's seemingly a big deal.
Puka Nakua is already like, I can't wait to see Naha.

Speaker 23 I can't wait to see Cooper Cup. I can't wait.
It's going to be awesome. So he might not be thinking about ball, man.

Speaker 7 Nine and dime podcast. Hopefully, he has another episode maybe before the game with Stafford and Cup.
75% of the money on Seattle is crazy. Congrats to the Seahawks.
Getting some respect.

Speaker 13 That's what that says to me.

Speaker 7 Kansas City Chiefs at the Denver Broncos. Chiefs favored by three and a half with 58% of the money.
Dumpy, your first thoughts on this line.

Speaker 12 This feels like the Chiefs, you know, AFC West, Broncos at the top right now. This is still the Chiefs division, and I think they they show it in a big way.
Broncos kind of been skating by lately.

Speaker 12 They've been winning games, but they've been tight. I don't think they can do that this week.

Speaker 7 AJ, your thoughts on what Gumpy just said and how you see this game going?

Speaker 5 I mean, as much as I hate to say it, I completely agree with Gump. I kind of have the same thought.
I want to think about it.

Speaker 1 Can I get him at minus three?

Speaker 6 And I don't mean I hate to say it.

Speaker 5 You know, as you were saying, though, Gump, I was just co-signing every single statement you had. Give me the Chiefs on this one.

Speaker 7 Is there any, is it minus three or is it minus three and a half across the board?

Speaker 4 It's three and a half or four. So if you wanted the Broncos, you can get him four.
four.

Speaker 7 Okay, I'll take the Chiefs minus three and a half. You know what? Minus four, actually.
Give me the Chiefs minus three.

Speaker 1 Yo, yep. Okay, I'll take that.
No, no, no, no, I don't want that.

Speaker 1 Don't do it.

Speaker 13 I would take that half point.

Speaker 7 I just got over 500 for the first time last week. Ravens, Browns, Ravens favored by 7.5 with 78% of the vote.
Yep, I'll run it as well. Give me the Baltimore Ravens minus 7.5 in Cleveland.

Speaker 7 I like Dylan Gabriel, though. I don't think he's bad.
And that's kind of quietly not been a story anymore.

Speaker 7 Because until Dylan Gabriel plays full ash cheeks, which is definitely going to come, maybe this game, maybe the Baltimore Ravens defense can fully click and confuse the young quarterback.

Speaker 7 But I see him spinning it, making good decisions, and it's not really a conversation. So good for Dylan Gabriel, good for them and all of it.
But Ravens are on a comeback.

Speaker 7 revenge tour after starting this season like absolute bums. Sportsbooks had them as the favorites in the AFC North, even whenever they only won one game in the first six or whatever the case was.

Speaker 7 That's because they know what they have. 78% of the money doesn't scare me because it's already hit this season at 80% rate.
Give me the Ravens minus seven and a half.

Speaker 7 I love what they're about to do in Cleveland.

Speaker 5 Man, see, yeah, Lamar, he missed what, one practice where there's a sore knee, but they said he's fine. He's full go.
He will be okay on Sunday. You know what?

Speaker 6 For whatever reason.

Speaker 5 I like the Browns here. I think the Browns find a way, their defense finds a way to keep this game close.
So give me the Browns plus seven and a half.

Speaker 2 What do you guys think about the situation with the quarterback, Pat? Because I agree with what you said, especially after the Patriots played the Browns. Dylan Gabriel is solid.

Speaker 2 He is a good quarterback. He'll be in the NFL for a while.
But at what point do you think that they say, okay, we've seen Dylan, he's great. We can

Speaker 2 have him be our guy. Do you think there's a time where this season where it's like, let's just put Shador out there just to at least see? Because say he goes and plays really well.

Speaker 2 Then he could be a trade piece, or Dylan Gabriel could be a trade piece. Do you think that's a possibility at some point?

Speaker 1 Well, I'm not 100% sure.

Speaker 7 You know, maybe Shadora could play for the Plum Mustangs. We'd certainly love it.
But

Speaker 7 fifth-round draft pick rookie, third-round draft pick rookie. If they think Dylan Gabriel is their guy for the future, they should give him more reps.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 7 Like, that's kind of the balance. Like, if you think he's the guy, you should give him more reps.

Speaker 7 Like, backup quarterbacks aren't getting a lot of reps in practice because the starting quarterback is who they want to go with. So, if we do want to get a look at Shador, I love it.

Speaker 7 I certainly wouldn't mind watching Shador Sanders play football in the NFL again. Certainly would enjoy that.
Or watch him play football just in general.

Speaker 7 But if Dylan Gabriel is your guy, more reps the better. Like that is what we're trying to get in this entire thing.
Now, I think, do they think long-term Dylan's the guy? Do they think he's not?

Speaker 7 I think they're probably trying to figure that out. But that's why the conversation is what it is.
Whenever they draft him in the third round, then they draft Shador in the fifth round.

Speaker 7 Then they bring in Kenny Pickett. They bring in Joe Flacco.
It's like, how are you going to be able to manage it all? And what if you do find a guy that everybody else can be able to find?

Speaker 7 Well, we're going to trade Joe. We're going to get Kenny out of here.
And then we're going to play Dylan Gabriel. And then Shador is he the backup? Well, we'll see.

Speaker 1 It's like, all right, here's off, everybody.

Speaker 7 That is, it's an interesting dynamic. But if Dylan's your guy, I think you've got to give him reps.
I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying if he is, the more the better, AJ.

Speaker 7 That is kind of how I would view it if I was on the team.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if he, if, yeah, and the fact that they drafted him in the third round, they want him to be the guy. So, yeah, he needs to get every single possible look he can in practice and the game.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think so. Now, granted, to your point, though, Connor, like, can we just get a look at this this guy?

Speaker 1 Like, you guys, I would like to look at Shador.

Speaker 5 You're right. It would be good to see him in real game action.

Speaker 2 Even if they say to Dylan, hey, you are a guy, but we're just going to give Shador a game.

Speaker 5 And I mean, he throws more touchdowns and he's not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, not mid-season.

Speaker 1 That's not

Speaker 2 good.

Speaker 12 He still got Deshaun Watson, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. He might come back.
He's still easy. At some point, he's out.

Speaker 12 He's come back true.

Speaker 5 At some point this year, he will be healthy enough to play, won't he?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 7 But, Connor, I just think if they think Dylan's their guy, reps. Yeah.
We need as many as possible. Like, every situation is a good situation because it's a situation and he needs more situations.

Speaker 7 You know, like that is how, if they think he's the guy. If they don't think he's the guy, why not try to see what Shador's got?

Speaker 7 Like, that is certainly something a lot of us would like to see, but that all comes down to what they think is actually going to be the future there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's just what I thought about watching the Jets because,

Speaker 2 you know, as you're watching them, it's like, okay, this team's nowhere close. But, you know, what happens if if they get a quarterback?

Speaker 2 And then you just start going through the draft and what draft pick they'll have and stuff. And then you start thinking like, shit, there are guys out there like Shador who haven't had an opportunity.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 do you take a flyer on one of those guys and try and pull him out? Do the Browns even trade a Shador?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just a crazy situation.

Speaker 7 Very crazy situation. And obviously, all those teams could have drafted Shador.

Speaker 7 Baltimore wanted to draft Shador, and then they were told no because they didn't want, you know, the potential sit behind Lamar, even though Lamar may be an incredible guy to sit behind and learn from.

Speaker 7 But now there's Cleveland, we'll see how it all works out.

Speaker 7 We would like to see Shador play football, but also we'd like the Cleveland Browns to make good football decisions for their team, which I think Cleveland Browns fans say, ha!

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 7 That's not how it goes around here. Detroit Lions, Philadelphia Eagles, Sunday night football.
Thank God we got a banger.

Speaker 14 Yep.

Speaker 7 Because we're actually going to be waiting all day for

Speaker 1 Sunday night.

Speaker 7 Jared Goff and Gibbs going to Philly fights.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts in Sirioni with AJ Brown saying, where's the ball for me?

Speaker 1 They got a lot going on in Philadelphia. Always.

Speaker 7 They were able to win a Super Bowl with always having drama somehow. Like, hey, don't have distractions.
Don't have drama. Don't have negative vibes.
Philadelphia's like, yeah, right, brother.

Speaker 7 We're going to have it every day, all the time. We're going to win games, and people are going to be pissed off, including our own fans.

Speaker 7 They're going to call for our head coach's job after we're fucking six and one. They're going to say, We need this guy out of here.
Then we're going to go on to win a Super Bowl somehow.

Speaker 7 And then on the flip side, the Detroit Lions, they've completely saved an entire city of football fandom by having some greatness with MCDC, who's not scared to be a tough guy, and Jared Goff, who's resurrected his career from being the guy who was kicked out of the city of stars to a guy whose name is chanted all around Detroit Rock City.

Speaker 7 Who wins? How do they win? Is there any different lines, Tone Diggs? And 82%

Speaker 7 of the public bets riding with the Lions plus two and a half.

Speaker 4 There are no other lines. It is two and a half across the board.
And then when you look at injuries, Lions, Terry and Arnold, Kirby Joseph, and Sam Laporta did not practice.

Speaker 4 Lane Johnson did practice for the Eagles. So that's your injury report for the game.

Speaker 7 Foxy, 82% of the people are betting on your team. Congratulations being at this point of life.
How do you feel getting two and a half points in Philadelphia on Sunday night? I love it.

Speaker 9 Got a quick stat for you. Jared Goff, 22 and 10 against the spread as an underdog with the Detroit Lions.
I assume that's why 82% of the people are riding with the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 9 Like you mentioned, the Eagles are kind of a mess right now.

Speaker 9 The media at least is making it that way, which as a fan of the Lions, I actually don't like because that means I think they could come in, you know, rally and make this a really good game.

Speaker 9 But I like where the Lions sit. I like where MCDC sits, column plays.
So we'll see how this goes. This is a big, big test for our Lions.

Speaker 7 Oh, I forgot about four eyes MC DC back behind the wheel. Oh, yeah.
Gumpy, your thoughts on this game here?

Speaker 12 I love the Lions, but it reeks.

Speaker 12 It smells like a square dog a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles win, but I would, as a betting man, I would like the Lions on the points.

Speaker 7 82% of the bets plus plus two and a half for the Detroit Lions is what he is referring to as stinky. AJ, AJ, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 5 I mean, Dan Campbell, Collin Plays, Jameer Gibbs, Jared Goff, I have to go with them. Give me the Lions plus two and a half.

Speaker 7 Hook, line, and sinker. I'm done with the Lions as well.

Speaker 1 Hey, you got us, sports books.

Speaker 10 Exactly what you wanted us to do.

Speaker 1 We did it, okay?

Speaker 7 Congratulations. They might be running closed Sicilian against us.
You know, it's great to have this plum football hoodie on. It's great to be back in the city of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 Tomorrow will be a hell of a celebration of the greatest sport on earth football here in the city of Pittsburgh. We hope you will join us.
College Game Day will be live on ESPN.

Speaker 7 It will also be live on our X account if you cannot get to ESPN due to any disputes that are taking place. AJ, I know you're going to DoorDash and you can win every week with DoorDash streaks.

Speaker 7 Save up to $250 this season when you were on game days. AJ, I know you like that pizza.

Speaker 1 I like the white, the white, like linen glove holding it like that all awkwardly with your thumb over Todd Moore, actually.

Speaker 8 AJ, I know you like that pizza.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 8 Right through the paper.

Speaker 7 The paper is part of the problem there.

Speaker 1 Where's the paper? I don't get it. There you go.
There it is.

Speaker 2 You got short arms, dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jesus.

Speaker 7 AJ, tell us about that pizza that you're holding right there.

Speaker 5 It's beautiful looking. That pizza actually doesn't look that good.

Speaker 5 So I don't know why this Muppet or whatever this thing is doing is holding it like it is, but maybe that's why because he's so disgusted by this piece of pizza that he's going to hold it with his thumb all weird.

Speaker 7 Oh, you think he's about to throw that piece of pizza?

Speaker 1 He's trying to throw it.

Speaker 7 I haven't even thought about that. So, the Muppet or the duck that is holding that piece of pizza, he's saying, get this shit out of here.
Let me DoorDash a good pie.

Speaker 7 And I'm going to do a lot of that here in Pittsburgh. I couldn't even fathom all the great pizzas in the local spots that are on DoorDash here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Holy fuck.

Speaker 7 Have you thought about that, Tone?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just did.

Speaker 6 I was one in mine.

Speaker 7 I literally just thought of it, Tone. I'm sorry.
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 But unfortunately, I know a lot of those mom-and-pop shop owners, and they're saying we ain't letting DoorDash take any of our boy.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh.
Yeah, you're right. You're smart.

Speaker 7 I actually just opened it. As you were saying, and I just thought of that too.
Like, you think Dallas salads is letting DoorDash fucking do anything?

Speaker 8 Not a tiny.

Speaker 2 But it's just because the quality, the quality is so high. And DoorDash does a great job of actually transporting your food in the concealed bags to keep them warm.

Speaker 2 But with those mom-and-pop shops, they just have so much strength, honor, and respect for their product that they know it just means more when you come into the shop.

Speaker 7 Yeah, strength and honor, obviously, is what we're looking for whenever you're having a slice of pie around here yeah

Speaker 7 pittsburgh pennsylvania hey great work back there in indianapolis boys crustic this week

Speaker 8 you too big week

Speaker 7 behind the glass oh it was a big week i completely forgot about it it was a huge week great work behind the glass boys work boys boys

Speaker 7 graphic design boys way to go out there gdps

Speaker 7 mitt really good work mitt almost saved uh chimpanzee today mitt

Speaker 7 tough week for the mcmahon family mitt showed up every single day we appreciate him for doing that aj thank you for traveling to indianapolis indiana here at the thunderdome you're the greatest man you you are truly one of a kind and uh nobody will ever dispute that appreciate that good job you guys you and gump gonna have a nice dinner tonight you where are you going

Speaker 7 i'm about to eat like seven i'm you got to eat a lot you got a lot of people asking you to come eat don't you yeah there's a lot of food that's about to be enjoyed great food so i'm i'm here for it but it's gonna be one of those ones i've talked about this whenever

Speaker 7 when I got arrested for public intoxication I was put in the NFL substance of abuse program okay three months in the first phase I aced it and then they moved me into the second phase I wasn't happy about that second phase was just like the first phase but it was 24 months long so in total 27 months of substance abuse program I was tested over 200 times eight times a month I was tested and you know couldn't do anything couldn't be seen with a beer couldn't do anything I used to vacation back in the city of Pittsburgh I'd come spend Thursday night, Friday, Saturday, Sunday back in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 And we would just do one thing and one thing alone, and that would be

Speaker 19 hammer booze.

Speaker 7 I mean, we would just absolutely hammer booze. And I had to stop, you know, for 27 months.
I had to completely cut it out. And I was getting tested a lot.

Speaker 7 I learned a lot about myself, cold turkey on everything. And then the lockout happened.

Speaker 8 And the lockout was

Speaker 7 no testing, okay, because the lockout was out. There was no testing.
So I said, I'm a booze every day of this lockout so that when it's over, I don't want to booze anymore.

Speaker 7 You know, like that is, I'm going to, I'm going to really do it. That lockout ended up being 100 and something days.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, I did not expect that.

Speaker 7 But lo and behold, by the end of that thing, I did not want anything to do with booze. And I would like to thank the city of Pittsburgh.
Because they were a big part of that time during the lockout.

Speaker 7 I'd like to thank Nick. Nick's liver and kidney and insides also took a big hit through tonight.
Thank you, Nick.

Speaker 1 Thank you for everything Dorothy was talking.

Speaker 7 But yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 8 I know we went hard.

Speaker 7 We didn't expect that lockout to be that long. I don't think any of us did, but boy, we certainly went.
And by the time it was over, it was like, all right, I'm not drinking anymore.

Speaker 7 What today is going to be is I'm going to eat so much food today from here where it's like, all right, I'm good until the next time I come back to Pittsburgh because there's so much good food.

Speaker 7 So I'm about tomorrow, tomorrow you're going to see me probably 260, 260, 270, 270.

Speaker 7 I'm about to be stuffed like a pig, but on the way out, I'm not going to want to have it, and I'll be good without it for at least the foreseeable future.

Speaker 7 So, AJ, this should be a great time here in Pittsburgh. Lucky to be here.
Can't wait for tomorrow morning. Thank you for traveling.
Safe travels back to Ohio. And

Speaker 7 yeah, let's enjoy the hell out of the greatest weekend of all time. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice.
It might change your life. We're in this thing together.
Team on me.

Speaker 6 Team on three.

Speaker 7 Have a good one, boys.

Speaker 23 You too. You too, man.

Speaker 2 Feel the love of the city, dude.

Speaker 7 Well, Rivers Casino could show a little bit more of it.

Speaker 1 Oh, still number one. Good luck.
Yeah, a lot of love, still.

Speaker 7 six card 21s

Speaker 16 fuck out of my face

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