PMS 2.0 1451 - Thursday Night Football Preview, Heather Dinich, Mike McCarthy, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 2 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

Speaker 5 On this NFL week 11 kickoff Thursday, November 13th, 2025, this program begins now.

Speaker 1 Football!

Speaker 7 What is happening tonight?

Speaker 10 Week 11 of the NFL season will kick off.

Speaker 11 An AFC East battle will be happening in Foxborough, Massachusetts at 39 degrees, 3% chance of rain, but somehow...

Speaker 21 The Patriots will control that weather in in their favor as they are 12 and a half point favorites hosting this New York Jets team who might have found something.

Speaker 24 Last couple weeks, they've got some big wins in the AFC North against Cincinnati and Cleveland.

Speaker 28 Now they have the New England Patriots who have the odds-on favorite for the MVP at quarterback, a second-year sensation out of North Carolina, who's leading a Patriots squad who has a new

Speaker 16 Supreme Commander and Mike Frabel, who is really taking on the image of this man.

Speaker 34 They are young, they are hungry, they are electrifying, and they might win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 And on that note, the New England Patriots fans are saying, well, guess who's back?

Speaker 37 Back again.

Speaker 38 It is them.

Speaker 26 Tell a friend tonight should be electrifying for Drake May in primetime in New England for the first time as the odds on favorite to be the MVP.

Speaker 47 I think what you're going to see from Patriots fans tonight is going to be a show.

Speaker 14 I think it is going to be a very difficult place to play.

Speaker 19 I think this New York Jets team, obviously finding their way with Aaron Glenn as the head coach.

Speaker 17 We've seen them have some success.

Speaker 6 I think they're walking into a buzzsaw.

Speaker 21 And I'm not the only one.

Speaker 23 Obviously, you saw the percentage of bets that are being placed on the Patriots minus 12 and a half.

Speaker 25 Almost 60% of the people are seeing it the same way, even though 12.5 points is a lot of points for a division matchup.

Speaker 53 I think tonight's one of those buzzsaws.

Speaker 54 I've been there.

Speaker 55 I've actually been on a sideline of one of these.

Speaker 1 And boy, when it gets going up there, those mass holes have weapons as lips. And

Speaker 33 they are good.

Speaker 28 And they have reason to be as such.

Speaker 59 Here's the tail of the tape for the offense and defensive rankings. Pass offense, worst ever.

Speaker 1 Right there, this way. Bar none.

Speaker 1 Worst ever. Might of all time.

Speaker 62 I mean, we haven't started doing those stats, but I know that without one catch last week, which is hard to say, but it was a check.

Speaker 64 We saw it.

Speaker 25 It was just a little throw screen over here.

Speaker 47 Not even a screen really because you didn't have to get over anybody.

Speaker 66 It was just like,

Speaker 3 it was just that

Speaker 47 wasn't even to the flat. I mean, it was just a six-yard near-stead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there it is right here.

Speaker 23 Aside from this, there was like 12 yards of passing for the New York Jets.

Speaker 61 And then obviously, you go all the way back to like the early part of the season, right before halftime.

Speaker 23 They potentially could go drive. And Aaron Glenn, new head coach, is getting everything questioned.

Speaker 6 He's like, we're not, yeah, right.

Speaker 47 We've thrown for six yards this half.

Speaker 23 You think we're going to open this thing up and try to go into half at a deficit? So they certainly have a passing deficit for the New York Jets offense as a whole, but they have a good run game.

Speaker 70 Okay. They have a good run game.

Speaker 71 They're able to get going.

Speaker 29 Defense started showing some signs of life.

Speaker 22 They have the fourth over rush offense, 28th total offense, eighth pass defense, 25th rush defense, and the 19th total defense.

Speaker 53 And then you look at his Patriots team.

Speaker 1 That's Stephon Diggs, you see, right there over Drake May's shoulder.

Speaker 32 He's bought in completely.

Speaker 1 All in. Don't need a ball every play.

Speaker 46 Everywhere we've seen him at the end, we always wonder if he wasn't getting the ball enough.

Speaker 75 Is that why he's pissed?

Speaker 16 Is that why he's moving on?

Speaker 46 At the Patriots with Mike Vrabel, he's just bought in.

Speaker 8 He's on hands team.

Speaker 1 He's on hands team.

Speaker 27 He's jumping up, exposing himself like this at the very end of a game, knowing that he's going to get absolutely rocked there for this Patriots team.

Speaker 76 So when you talk about buy-in, you're talking about what happens on that play and what we've seen all season with this Patriots team.

Speaker 43 It's going to be a special night, I do believe, as the New England folk are going to get a chance to celebrate maybe the next dynasty up there.

Speaker 79 The Toxic Tables here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor.

Speaker 29 Everything I just said there, I've been living alongside you, experiencing it as a Patriots fan.

Speaker 73 Had a couple rough years.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Had a couple rough years.

Speaker 27 Yeah, it was pretty brutal there.

Speaker 81 You know, at the end, you guys had a defensive coordinator as your offensive coordinator, and you had a special teams coach as a quarterback coach.

Speaker 16 And then obviously there was an ugly breakup.

Speaker 83 And then there was a hiring of an ex-player.

Speaker 84 This guy's the guy.

Speaker 46 Doesn't go good at all.

Speaker 1 Fire him.

Speaker 82 New coach comes in.

Speaker 50 Are you wasting a young quarterback?

Speaker 70 And then now here we are.

Speaker 85 You have the MVP favorite of quarterback.

Speaker 60 Josh McDaniels, the offensive coordinator, who's obviously had all the success in the NFL with offensive coordinator.

Speaker 87 Doesn't want to be a head coach.

Speaker 88 I've done that a couple of times.

Speaker 1 I don't like that life.

Speaker 58 My family really enjoy living up here.

Speaker 47 And we have this guy as our quarterback.

Speaker 73 You got Mike Vrabel who can call home there forever.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 76 You got Drake who could play, he's 23 or something like that.

Speaker 16 Play literally for another 20 years.

Speaker 52 Like he can actually play for another 20 years of football.

Speaker 43 You guys are just living the high life and tonight is maybe a primetime celebration that we're back.

Speaker 8 Is that kind of a good way to view tonight?

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. I mean, like you said, I've been saying this for a little bit, but hearing you say it does mean more.

Speaker 1 Hearing you say that Drake May is an MVP frontrunner and that that is a real thing right now in the world is just absurd. Yeah, tonight is going to be one of those nights where, yeah, we're back.

Speaker 1 Okay. Right now, if we win tonight, we will move into the one seed.
Now, that might only last till Sunday, but the Colts are on a bye week.

Speaker 1 So if the Broncos were to lose, then yes, we will be the one seed the entire week next week. I don't know if you guys want to see that.
I don't know if I want to see that, honestly.

Speaker 1 I might get a little bit too too big for my boat, if you will. But one of the things, too, for tonight, need a bigger boat.
Exactly. One of the things tonight, debut in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 They're so sick. The Nor'easters.
Yeah, it's this car, Storm Blue. It's Storm Blue.
It's your timeout. It's so good.

Speaker 1 Controlling the video.

Speaker 1 Look at the video for it. This is what we're doing tonight.
Stay out of doubt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. It's hard has Gloucester.
It's everything that's right in Massachusetts. Gloucester, one of the most

Speaker 1 get to it? There it is. Iconic towns.
Boom. There it is.

Speaker 1 And you mentioned Stefan Diggs. Darius Butler came in here and he said on Monday, holy shit, Stefan Diggs is just as good as he was three years ago.

Speaker 1 The fact that there was a conversation about him not being the same guy this offseason was crazy. But no, it is one of those things.
Hey, I don't want to say anything. I don't want to jinx anything.

Speaker 1 I don't believe in that.

Speaker 1 And also, I think it's more so of a take-your-pick night. Mike Vrabel will pull his pants down.
It's going to be a take-your-pick, piss or poop. You know, which one do you want, Jets?

Speaker 1 You want him to piss on you? You want him to poop on you?

Speaker 48 You guys are going to kill the Jets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's going to be a blowout. I I love the

Speaker 1 under pick, rather. I heard Gumpy say under.
Love that. The over-under is 43.5.
I'm looking at 42, nothing. I don't see any other reason to believe anything else.

Speaker 1 The only thing the Jets can do is run the football. The best part of our dominant team, really, not just defense, not just offense.
The best part of our team is our run defense, without a doubt.

Speaker 1 Number one in the league, that's cool.

Speaker 1 But just when you watch it, they are suffocating.

Speaker 94 Yeah, you see, the stat.

Speaker 10 It says number one.

Speaker 42 That's cool.

Speaker 46 It signifies they're better than everybody else.

Speaker 1 But when you actually watch it, you see it is problematic.

Speaker 55 I mean, you are not moving at all.

Speaker 16 Vrabel defense feels like is just a hard-nosed, tough defense.

Speaker 64 Doesn't get talked about a lot.

Speaker 17 No.

Speaker 97 Drake obviously talked about it a lot.

Speaker 29 Vrabel talked about it a lot.

Speaker 24 I mean, you go through everything that we just rattled off.

Speaker 98 Defense not really getting chatted about.

Speaker 1 Lockdown Island corner.

Speaker 99 Okay, problematic.

Speaker 85 Christian Gonzalez.

Speaker 42 And the number one rush defense.

Speaker 89 Is this just what's to be expected because Vrabel is here?

Speaker 24 Or what is your kind kind of your thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking when you talk about teams, like, let's go to the Lions.
The Lions built their team in the trenches.

Speaker 1 That is kind of very similar to what I think Vrabel will do, except instead of, you know, the Aiden Hutchinson outside pass rusher, I think it is more of a focal point in the middle.

Speaker 1 Milton Williams, we gave him the highest contract in the history of the New England Patriots. It was incredible.
Chris Tonga will be a guy to watch tonight D-line. He's also playing fullback.

Speaker 1 And again, need to just say this too. Bob Spillane is my favorite player to watch on Sundays.
Watch Bob Spillane and what he does on the football field.

Speaker 1 But yeah, going to the Coach of the Year odds, it speaks for themselves. You know, like look at the top of that list.

Speaker 1 Again, it is surreal that this is a reality that we are living in, that we get to talk about the Patriots like this. But Vrabel leading the way, Coach Steichen, just as deserving.

Speaker 1 Coach McDonald, just as deserving. Unbelievable work up there.
All three of those guys could be plus 100. And Ben, I guess, either.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 97 If you go with what the Bay, I mean.

Speaker 1 Because they were shite.

Speaker 100 And, you know, President Trump brought it up.

Speaker 27 You got some really good leaders with really good strategy as head coaches of NFL teams.

Speaker 3 I'm not joking.

Speaker 80 I'd take a couple of those guys, get some core strategy, listen from them.

Speaker 75 We've got some really good coaches right now.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. That's why, you know, a couple openings right now already.

Speaker 101 Some odds are coming out on these coaching jobs.

Speaker 86 Interesting.

Speaker 87 Right now.

Speaker 101 New York Giants, odds on favorites becoming the next head coach there.

Speaker 1 Big Mike McCarthy. Really?

Speaker 19 Coach Mike, you know, with a jersey swap here.

Speaker 72 That's what he would obviously look like in the New York Football Giants blew up there.

Speaker 96 A lot of young talent.

Speaker 46 And I will say this about the New York Football Giants.

Speaker 1 They're an entertaining team. They are.

Speaker 21 They are an entertaining team.

Speaker 99 They got talent and they got Moxie.

Speaker 23 Jameis Winston had his first press conference as the starting quarterback of the New York Giants.

Speaker 48 And yes, it did exactly what we hoped it would do.

Speaker 20 It lit up everybody's lives.

Speaker 2 What do you want fans to know about you?

Speaker 2 I want fans to know that I'm going to do my best. You know, obviously, I'm going to have fun, but I'm going to execute, have a surgical execution,

Speaker 1 and just play ball, man.

Speaker 2 Like, this is something I've been doing since I've been four years old.

Speaker 1 I just get to do it in the greatest city in the world. I'm going to be saying it with my son.
It's the greatest city in the world.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a Hamilton reference, if y'all don't know.

Speaker 1 Nobody in that room.

Speaker 36 Nobody in that room, 10-year reunion coming up.

Speaker 105 Nobody ever saw Hamilton in that room.

Speaker 81 I'm cultured, saw it a couple different times.

Speaker 106 And, you know, his name is Alexander Hamilton.

Speaker 107 What a fucking show.

Speaker 1 Good pipes.

Speaker 11 Have you ever seen it?

Speaker 1 No, I've only seen parts on Disney Plus.

Speaker 108 Okay, so I listened to this, like the soundtrack.

Speaker 59 What's his name? Very talented guy.

Speaker 109 Lynn Manuel Miranda.

Speaker 1 Love his work in Moana. They absolutely love his work in Moana.
We've been watching a lot of that with McKenzie.

Speaker 88 And then Hamilton, unbelievable.

Speaker 47 Now, there's some people that say you should do more history than just watch Hamilton, but it feels like I kind of got it under control after watching Hamilton a couple different times.

Speaker 1 Jameis immediately jumping full bore into the city that he's in.

Speaker 74 I can't wait.

Speaker 78 If he gets a win, okay, and I think it's going to be tough, obviously, but if he gets a win, the amount of shit that's going to be coming out after, he's been sitting on all this.

Speaker 52 Okay, he knew that there was going to be a Hamilton reference in that first press conference three months ago.

Speaker 99 Okay. Now he's been sitting on stuff all season.

Speaker 106 And it's not just Jameis that is electrifying.

Speaker 73 And I know he's not playing right now, but Scataboo took to some streaming and he certainly gave a take as well that perfectly indicates the type of human that Scataboo is.

Speaker 113 Do you like

Speaker 113 turn your head to eat a taco or do you turn the taco for you? Like are you dominant to the taco or does the taco like do you turn your head for the taco?

Speaker 1 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 113 It's about the dominance of the taco though. Like if you're not if you're turning the taco

Speaker 113 you're dominating the taco.

Speaker 1 You see? So

Speaker 47 you are a puppet to the taco if you're doing this number.

Speaker 33 Or are you making the taco yours?

Speaker 55 And are you housing that thing like this?

Speaker 86 It's all about a mindset. It's all about a mentality.

Speaker 83 It's all about dominance.

Speaker 86 That guy's going to be back, we assume.

Speaker 59 Obviously, nasty interview.

Speaker 23 That's from Scat Pack with a four as an A on his Twitch.

Speaker 24 I assume that's going to be very entertaining, but he is exactly who we think he is in all aspects of his lifetime.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the best.

Speaker 109 And, you know, it just kind of sucks that that is the kind of stuff that we have to resort to because he got hurt, because we were getting just highlight after highlight after highlight this season.

Speaker 109 And now we're checking in and seeing, hey, what kind of tacos are he?

Speaker 1 No, how's he eating tacos? Well, that's what I'm saying. He's not eating soft tacos.
I didn't see the whole thing. Oh, you know? Hard tacos are.
Yeah, because you don't have to turn a soft.

Speaker 109 He strikes me as a hard shell guy. I don't think he's a soft shell guy.
He strikes me. Well, actually, he might be like a queserito guy.
He might be taking a hard shell. He's going to be

Speaker 109 putting some cheese. He's dominating it.

Speaker 109 Exactly.

Speaker 50 Wrapping that thing up.

Speaker 1 Doing it his way.

Speaker 109 But yeah, I mean, it's just, he's the best.

Speaker 109 The Giants quietly, you know it's unfortunate that they are where they're at right now because they do have like three to four of like the most entertaining likable people in the league on that note uh malik neighbors superstar wide receiver of the new york giants he posted this on his ig story

Speaker 115 Okay, father, I'm darting off to pursue my educational prowess.

Speaker 116 Okay, son.

Speaker 1 Don't dilly-dally.

Speaker 117 I'll be home late.

Speaker 104 It's my bridge night.

Speaker 109 I'll see you later.

Speaker 1 Bye.

Speaker 1 Yo, what's up, B? How you feeling?

Speaker 28 So, what we're saying is the Giants head coaching job is open.

Speaker 45 Okay. Mike McCarthy's name is the odds-on-favorite.

Speaker 69 We will talk to him next hour.

Speaker 98 His name is going to come up for a lot of these jobs because of how accomplished he is.

Speaker 103 And frankly, after we started talking to him, you could see how he would be able to walk into an interview and win it because not only the depth of the shit that he says, the motivation, the leadership, but obviously the amount of ball knowledge that he has.

Speaker 24 And I think he can relate to any generation.

Speaker 23 So I think he's going to be a favorite for a lot of these jobs if he is interested in jobs.

Speaker 88 So, we're not going to, I'm not going to let him lose any leverage.

Speaker 1 So, I'm not just going to say, Hey, you're an odds-on-favorite for the Giants.

Speaker 47 Do you want to do this?

Speaker 78 I will certainly not do that.

Speaker 59 I put him in that type of situation, but we will certainly ask him about him becoming the odds-on-favorite for a lot of these jobs in the next hour to kind of see where he's at with it all.

Speaker 43 Because does he want to coach?

Speaker 47 You know, does he want to go? We assume yes.

Speaker 95 Yeah.

Speaker 109 Does he want to hold out for a better opportunity that may come, you know, in six weeks in his hometown?

Speaker 1 Eight weeks.

Speaker 3 What? That's one half of the hammer done.

Speaker 96 Cowboys, A.P.

Speaker 55 Tone from Plumboro, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 60 East Hills of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 You were saying hometown.

Speaker 97 That's where, hey, Mike McCarthy's Pittsburgh guy.

Speaker 104 I just figured that's what Ty was referencing, getting to, holding out to see what happens with that situation. If the wheels fall off of that situation, who knows what happens?

Speaker 20 That won't happen.

Speaker 14 We know that with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 24 And I think he was actually not referring to the Pittsburgh State.

Speaker 1 Oh, he wasn't? Yeah, I wasn't.

Speaker 109 He is from Pittsburgh, but he lives in Dork. Oh, you know, we've been to the barn.
And I'm not saying, hey, listen, a lot of season left. A lot of season left.
But let's just see what happens here.

Speaker 109 Let's not just anoint Big Mike, the head coach of the Giants right now.

Speaker 104 By the way, just had to get us out there. Encanto, also written by Lynn Manuel Miranda.

Speaker 1 Awesome. What is it? What is it?

Speaker 31 What is it?

Speaker 104 It's an animated Disney movie.

Speaker 1 Just like Milan. Okay, I will be in.
The songs are.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I'll tell you.

Speaker 15 I didn't watch any Disney movies growing up.

Speaker 48 Mighty Ducks was at Disney?

Speaker 1 I believe. Yes, so yeah.

Speaker 88 Okay, I watched Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 120 You're talking about cartoons.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I didn't watch any of the other stuff.

Speaker 75 Just ADD didn't get to do it.

Speaker 121 My wife thinks that's potentially why I didn't develop fully some of the emotions.

Speaker 1 Sure. You know, because I didn't go through the entire sad, super sad, the whole thing.

Speaker 109 Mighty Ducks is sad.

Speaker 48 That's what I argued.

Speaker 41 But then I watched, you know, Lion King with my daughter, and it is a little different levels of sadness.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially

Speaker 18 at different ages.

Speaker 122 These animated movies are incredible.

Speaker 1 So well done. I highly recommend it.
Coco. Oh, geez.
Now I'm just going to go. Similar veins.
There's a new one called Twitch.

Speaker 122 There There was this caveman one a couple months ago.

Speaker 49 I mean, it is.

Speaker 103 Sing.

Speaker 67 It's so sing is so good.

Speaker 11 So good.

Speaker 46 I was watching.

Speaker 29 We were watching Sing as we were putting Big Night Out together.

Speaker 121 I literally felt like I was in the movie because that's all he's trying to do is put together a show at a theater that he's trying to save and he has to do a deal.

Speaker 63 And it's like, I'm watching this guy. I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm actually taking notes on that.

Speaker 1 Who are we talking to? How big are you?

Speaker 1 That's a good idea. I'll talk about it.
Sing Twos on Peacock.

Speaker 104 You got to leave Netflix, but Sing Two, Peacock, just as good.

Speaker 24 Okay, I assume it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the animated people, I know how long that all takes. Incredible work.
A ton of money.

Speaker 114 As soon as McKenzie sees it, she's just like, she's listening.

Speaker 78 Is the song good?

Speaker 66 Yeah. Okay.
If it's ass, she's out.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we got to kind of move on.

Speaker 38 It's a good song with, I think, Lynn Manuel Miranda.

Speaker 73 He's throwing

Speaker 56 very early in all these things.

Speaker 30 All right. Speaking of heat.

Speaker 58 There's some down in Baylor.

Speaker 23 Okay, there was a story that was released by Outkick that basically lays out a couple situations that happened around the Baylor, Arizona state game, where the AD Mac Rhodes,

Speaker 86 right before the Baylor offense went on the field for their first series, allegedly what Outkick is reporting, Mac Rhodes walked up to Mike Trigg, who's the tight end of the Baylor team, and he had yellow long sleeves on underneath his black jersey.

Speaker 118 And in the article from Outkick, it says that he had that on to cover up a brace that was on his shoulder because he was hurt.

Speaker 63 So basically that's why he was wearing it.

Speaker 23 The AD did not know that, obviously, at the time or did, didn't care.

Speaker 11 Allegedly walks up to Michael Trigg, grabs him and says why are you wearing a yellow long sleeve like not happy that that is how he is dressed for the game for Baylor like it was an intense interaction is what people said numerous sources on the sideline that were not to be named because they were worried for any back yada yada yada then after the game there was a situation again where uh tight end michael trigger and another coach uh were meeting with their family and mac rhodes allegedly this is via the outkick thing this is what's being reported he walks up to the coach, grabs him by the arm and like the neck area and asks him why he was wearing a yellow long sleeve.

Speaker 25 So still stewing on it, basically.

Speaker 35 So this got reported.

Speaker 11 Now there's an investigation happening in Baylor because it's a verbal and a physical altercation is how it's being described.

Speaker 103 Mac Rhodes, head

Speaker 4 chair,

Speaker 1 the one speaking

Speaker 1 for the group.

Speaker 17 of the CFP committee, the College Football Playoff Committee.

Speaker 9 So he steps down amid investigation happening at Baylor.

Speaker 41 So obviously, Baylor will run its investigation.

Speaker 12 We just told you everything that Outkick had reported that had happened there.

Speaker 23 Now we're going to tell you what happens next for the College Football Playoff Committee.

Speaker 19 This feels like a pretty important piece of the puzzle, especially as we're already a couple weeks into the CFP committee doing their rankings.

Speaker 69 Joining us now is a college football analyst, an insider.

Speaker 1 Who, who, who, who's your

Speaker 17 fan and Pittsburgh Steeler fan, ladies and gentlemen, Heather Denich.

Speaker 1 Heather, how you doing?

Speaker 133 Hey, guys, I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 122 Okay, so everything happening at Baylor.

Speaker 49 I don't know if you have any more information on that.

Speaker 4 This seemingly came out of nowhere this morning for a lot of people, but we definitely want to talk about the CFP situation now.

Speaker 135 So is a chair open there?

Speaker 60 Like, how does this kind of work from the college football playoff standpoint since the top person steps down in the middle of a season, Heather?

Speaker 133 Yes, that's right. The chair is open.
And the most likely scenario at this point is that they will replace Rhodes and they would replace him with a Big 12 athletic director because that's what he was.

Speaker 133 So

Speaker 133 the most likely thing is that they're going to get somebody who has done this before as well. So I would expect a former committee member to rejoin the group from the Big 12.

Speaker 133 Baylor did confirm to ESPN today that they received allegations on Monday involving Rhodes, but that does not include anything about Title IX, student welfare, NCAA,

Speaker 133 and does not involve the football program. That's what we know right now.
We're continuing to report the story.

Speaker 133 So what's going to happen is the CFP is going to replace that seat, the seat of the chair, and they've got to do it really quickly. And what will happen is Big 12 Commissioner will nominate somebody.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's a profit. We'll prove it.

Speaker 65 I thought we were going to be able to get, you know, well, not Herb Street in there because he's SECSP.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 I thought maybe we were going to get Nick Saban in there. Maybe Des.
Des going in there would be electrifying.

Speaker 46 We didn't know if we were going to be able to start pitching names.

Speaker 1 Other guy.

Speaker 137 Maybe Stanford Steve in there.

Speaker 137 Stanford Steve needs to be in there.

Speaker 46 Can we slap an athletic director title before that? Is it going to have to be an athletic director?

Speaker 40 Are those the rules?

Speaker 44 Who are the people that can be on the committee? And

Speaker 47 who currently makes up the committee, Heather?

Speaker 133 Yeah, it's an eye for an eye, Pat. So it's going to be a Big 12 AD.
And my guess is it would be somebody like Mark Harlan at Utah who's been on there before, or Gene Taylor from K-State.

Speaker 133 Kirby Hokat, the Texas Tech AD, has been the committee chair before, but I would be surprised if it would be him because they're so involved in the college football playoff right now.

Speaker 133 He would definitely have to recuse himself from basically everything. So, you know, I think it would probably be Harlan or maybe Gene Taylor.

Speaker 133 Those are probably the two most likely names to be considered. And who's on the committee? It's sitting athletic directors, my former colleague, Ivan Maisal at ESPN.

Speaker 133 You have to be a retired member of the media, though. So I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

Speaker 133 You've got to be retired a media member to do.

Speaker 1 Des would have been awesome.

Speaker 20 I would just like to let everybody know that Desmond Howard would have been amazing in those meetings.

Speaker 85 He is electrifying in there.

Speaker 16 Reese Davis, obviously, he does the interview with the chair immediately afterwards.

Speaker 122 How does that whole thing work?

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Heather.

Speaker 133 So does the Big 12 AD that's going to come in, do they become the chair or does someone else from the committee move up to the chair position that will speak to reese each week and obviously be the face of the committee yeah the commissioners have to decide that it could absolutely just be the new person comes in and they are the voice of the cfp or they could have somebody else in the room take that position and remember these are three-year terms and here's to be fair we don't know what is going to happen with mac roads i mean it's a he could come back eventually i you know, I don't want to judge or draw any conclusions as to how long he'll be gone, but we already had this happen last month.

Speaker 133 Randall McDaniel stepped down for personal reasons as well. Usually it's a 13-member committee.
Then it was at 12. Now it's at 11.
So

Speaker 133 definitely some holes to fill in the room.

Speaker 131 Yeah, it sounds like a three-year term.

Speaker 128 So this will be an interim chair, whoever comes in there.

Speaker 47 I would assume you would vote from within because you've been there since the beginning.

Speaker 79 New party coming in.

Speaker 59 Got to get caught up.

Speaker 75 Don't know if they should be speaking, but could also get a fresh voice in there.

Speaker 105 Yeah, I'm hearing it for the first time, kind of how we're looking at it.

Speaker 98 I guess they could kind of take it anyway.

Speaker 45 Who will be the next person to hang their white hat and walk into that meeting and decide which college football programs have a shot at winning it all?

Speaker 58 That's a hard job.

Speaker 23 That's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 132 I hope they get it right.

Speaker 114 Heather, we appreciate you joining us on such quick turnaround.

Speaker 133 Thanks, guys. Go Steelers.

Speaker 24 Hey, game day is going to be in Pittsburgh this weekend.

Speaker 73 I think it should be pretty electrifying.

Speaker 136 You're going to my city, man.

Speaker 133 I hope the bird is so much fun. I'm jealous.
I hope you guys have so much fun.

Speaker 19 From my understanding, it's not just Pitt people that are going to be.

Speaker 28 I think a lot of Pittsburgh, I think Pittsburgh's coming.

Speaker 69 I think like it's going to be like a football celebration.

Speaker 9 I think from my understanding, now I might be just talking to people that I know and maybe they feel obligated to support me.

Speaker 46 But I think like the city of Pittsburgh, I think this is going to be quite a scene here.

Speaker 40 I think it's going to be quite a football party in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 133 Oh, that's how they roll, man. I fully expect the city to turn out.
It's a football city. That's it.

Speaker 9 Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Heather Dennis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Heather.

Speaker 58 I do think it's going to be pretty bananas.

Speaker 138 No doubt. I think it is, yeah.

Speaker 87 From my understanding, from what I've heard from people back in Pittsburgh, once again, they might be lying to me, you know, because they feel obligated to be like, hey, because, boy,

Speaker 1 everybody would like a potential.

Speaker 71 Hey, if you can swing by, hey, if you can swing by, which I appreciate and completely understand.

Speaker 78 So I'm going to try my best to go ahead and do all of that for sure.

Speaker 104 But it feels like a lot of people are thinking about coming which is a very cool thing i promise you it's gonna be packed just because the amount of times that it's gonna be 60 degrees in november like the amount of times that we would just go down like if it was west virginia coming to town notre dam coming town those parking lots are always full with the probably about 50 000 people that aren't going into the game so i think the last big notre dame pit game there was some people we know that ended up in a hospital didn't even make it in it was a good that was a good time they got carried out parking lot oh no who's that person was um if i remember correctly, chugging a vodka bottle and there was going, somebody stop him.

Speaker 137 Yeah, there was people that were trying to save this man's life.

Speaker 79 And

Speaker 1 they had

Speaker 55 the forecasting ability of Joe Nardo because he should have stopped.

Speaker 1 They were right.

Speaker 82 Yeah, he ended up, I guess, in between some cars.

Speaker 1 Sure. Found by other people, put into an ambulance and then, you know, sent out there.

Speaker 131 And I think before chugging that vodka goes, because you can't do it done me, I can't.

Speaker 31 And then, you know, that entire thing, which we like the confidence, but certainly not the decision.

Speaker 105 But that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 95 I'm not saying anybody's doing that.

Speaker 138 2025, everybody knows better. Sure.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows better. Definitely.

Speaker 66 But what we're saying is it is a football city.

Speaker 138 It should be pretty epic on Saturday. I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 It's a drinking event.

Speaker 33 Bingo. And it's warm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the warm weather.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about that. That's a huge game changer.

Speaker 122 Well, we told a story about them putting in the alcohol attacks.

Speaker 138 You remember we told a story about the alcohol attacks that they dropped in there and they projected whatever and it was like 20x that.

Speaker 143 And they realized the city had a problem, but then they also said this tax is staying forever, you know.

Speaker 71 And uh, that's Pittsburgh's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 58 I can't wait to wait to get back there.

Speaker 56 Pittsburgh, a tough game, though.

Speaker 33 Hey, Notre Dame's good team right now, Notre Dame's good team right now.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter, though.

Speaker 109 You know, their head coach said, Hey, it doesn't matter if we get beat by 100. You know, we just we're just trying to win an ACC championship, so that you know, doesn't even matter.

Speaker 1 Run it.

Speaker 104 Do you feel like this is a must-win for this team when it comes to

Speaker 144 absolutely not.

Speaker 144 It is not an ACC game. I'm glad you brought that up.
It's not an ACC game.

Speaker 144 I gladly get beat 103 or 110 to 10

Speaker 144 in that game. They could put 100 up on us as long as we win the next two after that.
But again, our focus is on Notre Dame and

Speaker 144 getting as many wins as we can.

Speaker 86 We'll be talking to Coach Narduzi tomorrow and say,

Speaker 109 yeah, why'd you say that?

Speaker 48 Why did you have such an exact score already?

Speaker 61 It felt like he had said that already to somebody else.

Speaker 84 Like,

Speaker 33 it literally could be 103 to 10, 110 to 10.

Speaker 122 He gave himself 10 points there, which I think was good.

Speaker 11 When do they score that?

Speaker 78 Is that garbage time?

Speaker 105 Is that after it's already over 100?

Speaker 63 Like is that before their last 10 times?

Speaker 98 Seems like he had thought about that answer.

Speaker 103 I assume what he'll tell us is he was just informing everybody, like, hey, the outcome of this game.

Speaker 95 does not matter for what we still have going.

Speaker 15 So I think he's trying to get the narrative out there and the information to people, I think.

Speaker 24 Like, hey, we're still very much in the ACC race. This weekend, you're going to see there's going to be a lot lot of eyes on our team.
Does not matter.

Speaker 59 I think that's probably what he'll say.

Speaker 99 And on the flip side of that, if I'm in the locker room, I don't think I want to hear that from my coach, but these are all Narduzi guys.

Speaker 122 This is a Narduzi culture.

Speaker 28 Narduzi has built this team and he's been there a long time.

Speaker 98 He probably has a better feel of it.

Speaker 124 I did not expect a coach to ever say that.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 142 I did not coach.

Speaker 20 I did not expect.

Speaker 104 But he also said yesterday on his radio show, I saw too. He told Pitt fans, it's a noon kickoff.
Get down there early. Get liquored up.

Speaker 3 So he said that. Yep.
He said, get licored up. Yeah.

Speaker 71 So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 106 He knows he gets gets what he's doing.

Speaker 119 And obviously I didn't play a fit.

Speaker 138 I'll be excited to see how that all goes.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 80 Yeah, I will be excited to see how that all goes.

Speaker 50 I'll be excited to get back, but I don't know like the pit inside inner workings or whatever.

Speaker 123 Have to have a lot of buy-in to be able to go up there and say, if we lose by 100, we don't care.

Speaker 27 Nick, you want the pit.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on we could potentially lose 103 to 10 or whatever it is?

Speaker 146 You know, at first you hear that and you think,

Speaker 147 that's a weird thing to say with a gigantic game coming up and, you know, a chance to go win the

Speaker 147 ACC championship and put on a national spotlight and beat Notre Dame on the way to do that.

Speaker 120 That felt like the right thing to do.

Speaker 147 But, you know, I think maybe just a little bit of a deflection. Maybe just a little bit.
Let's get Notre Dame nice and comfortable.

Speaker 1 Hey, come in here. You can beat her.
It doesn't matter. Oh, you think he's...

Speaker 56 You think it's his gamesmanship closed Cecilia now to coach Narduz.

Speaker 147 Potentially a little gamesmanship from the dudes down there.

Speaker 138 I didn't even think about Nardu's coming on show tomorrow off air going, hey, I told the boys I'm going to go say this because these Notre Dame kids,

Speaker 1 they'll forget about the game.

Speaker 111 So

Speaker 107 you guys go for it like a bunch of marks.

Speaker 119 You guys are a bunch of losers.

Speaker 88 What if Narduzi says that?

Speaker 71 He says, listen, when I'm talking to the team and when I'm talking to Notre Dame and when I'm talking to the fans, it's all different.

Speaker 47 Tell the team, hey, I'm going to go save this.

Speaker 1 Tell Notre Dame, yeah, hire a three or ten, whatever.

Speaker 20 Tell the fans, need you liquored up.

Speaker 58 Got to be more direct.

Speaker 47 with the fans. You know, got to be a little bit more direct with them.

Speaker 14 With Notre Dame, you can kind of passive aggressively, hopefully, lower the expectations on their end.

Speaker 40 So maybe they're not as prepared to come into Ackershare Field sold out.

Speaker 36 Will that be more Notre Dame more Pitt?

Speaker 74 Pitt. What do you think it'll be?

Speaker 1 70, 40? 60-40.

Speaker 99 What do you think? 60-40.

Speaker 147 It's going to be close. I wouldn't be surprised if 50-50.

Speaker 1 Jeez. I'm serious.

Speaker 147 It's a pro sports town. We all know that.
Pitt has attendance problems because the stadium is too big for what the program is at the moment. They need their own stadium.
Everyone agrees on that, Tony.

Speaker 78 Tone started.

Speaker 103 And then Ben Rolfsberger macro.

Speaker 16 So then he was in a good spot, especially this week.

Speaker 29 You got Pitt Notre Dame on Saturday.

Speaker 61 Then you got Steelers

Speaker 59 on Sunday. Same grass.

Speaker 78 So look for that to definitely be a storyline coming out of Sunday's game one way or another.

Speaker 30 Because Pittsburgh, you know, we don't have best weather.

Speaker 3 And Pittsburgh doesn't have the best weather.

Speaker 48 So do you always have the best grass in those types of towns?

Speaker 126 Absolutely not.

Speaker 85 Have the Pittsburgh Steelers ever said like, hey, we're going to fix this problem and we're going to use the newest turf?

Speaker 88 Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Football is on grass.

Speaker 59 It's outside and it's on grass is how Pittsburgh football town feels.

Speaker 1 So every single beginning of winter and then through the end of college football season, let alone high school state championships happening there, Whippiel championships happening there, always a conversation about how ass the field is.

Speaker 91 But that's just like what Pitt and Pittsburgh football is.

Speaker 63 Like you just play on an ass field.

Speaker 1 Hey, they're spray painting. the dirt to make it look like grass.

Speaker 69 Not a bad play. Very Pittsburgh of them, I would say.

Speaker 1 That's a good angle.

Speaker 33 Hey, what are we doing?

Speaker 47 You're trying to do this.

Speaker 75 I can't wait to see what game day does.

Speaker 1 It looks like it's going to be incredible.

Speaker 1 But the other side of the coin to this pit conversation is, you know, Notre Dame and Marcus Freeman also know like, hey, this is one of the last opportunities we have to really prove ourselves to the college football playoff.

Speaker 1 Like, is this the last ranked opponent on their schedule? I'm assuming it is. I believe so.
Like, they need to also make a statement.

Speaker 1 So Narduzi might be saying that because he knows there's a beast coming.

Speaker 1 There's a two-headed monster coming into town right now and we might get beat by 100 so i need to let the pit fans know i need to let the pit fans know like hey when we get beat by a hundred don't you know absolutely kill me we still got everything in front of us yeah and the pit fans will say sure we lose by 100 for notre damage yeah we got everything in front of us sure that's uh heather just uh texted uh mike fost to get to us tell him that Heather Denich has just confirmed Mark Harlan, the Utah AD, has been nominated to replace Mac Rhodes, the chair of the CFP committee, who stepped down earlier today because of something happening at Baylor.

Speaker 98 Not a lot of details.

Speaker 40 Outkick reported one particular incident.

Speaker 23 Well, I guess two separate incidents on one particular day.

Speaker 99 Who knows what else is coming down the line?

Speaker 1 But now Utah AD Mark Harlan is in it.

Speaker 34 Hey, get it right, Mark.

Speaker 1 Good luck, Mark.

Speaker 100 Hey, Mark, take a second to look at that WVU Mountaineers team.

Speaker 29 How they're playing now.

Speaker 23 Okay, if we're trying to get the best teams in there, Scotty Fox, these boys, a little bit of a hard edge.

Speaker 27 Maybe we slip in the back. Yep.

Speaker 148 Here's the West Street Mountaineers playing against Colorado this past weekend.

Speaker 21 Steve Slayton was honored for going into the College Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 59 The 2005 Sugar Bowl champions were in attendance.

Speaker 60 I think they said 60,000 people.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah. Packed out.
That's awesome. Yeah.
Exactly.

Speaker 8 And I think we're going, look, look.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It is passed.
Yeah. Packed out.

Speaker 41 And we are not going anywhere this season.

Speaker 123 Like, we are right now building for next season is what we are doing.

Speaker 27 Might end up with a bowl game.

Speaker 98 Got it all good, which would be great.

Speaker 29 But I think everybody is in the same understanding: like, hey, we are building a program right now.

Speaker 58 So the fact that that place was filled up, good news. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Great news going forward.

Speaker 1 Did you get a chance to talk to the Utah AD when you guys were in there for game day or anything when you guys were there? Was it just the head coach conversation?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I think I was a good chat. Yeah, it was a good conversation.
He was a good guy.

Speaker 109 Brief, very busy, obviously.

Speaker 25 And when you look at a photo of him, you obviously know, like, hey, when you see him, you know.

Speaker 1 You know, when you see Mark Harlan, yeah, you definitely, when you see a photo of the Utah athletic director, Mark Harlan, you really know exactly where you're like, you say, that's the Utah athlete.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I did beat him.

Speaker 20 Yeah, yeah, I did talk to him.

Speaker 59 Yes, yes, I certainly did.

Speaker 1 Kevin Harlan in him.

Speaker 132 Yeah, well, it may be related to him.

Speaker 120 That one with the Utah in the background is kind of a mix of Lombo and Brandon Bean.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 119 That's not bad, actually, a little combo if you're going to be a football athletic person.

Speaker 1 Mark Lombean. Good handshake here on Mark Harlan.

Speaker 121 He has now been nominated to replace Mac Rhodes in the college football playoff committee, who will be selecting the 12 that will be counting down.

Speaker 1 The one. It's interesting because you tossed 14 maybe something.
Yeah, I want to see exactly.

Speaker 95 If they get in, you guys see Devin's?

Speaker 3 I'm going to say, don't get too comfortable, BYU.

Speaker 109 Don't get it too comfortable.

Speaker 150 Tough loss, Texas.

Speaker 1 Can't lose another one.

Speaker 25 Imagine Mark Harlan.

Speaker 1 These guys are frauds.

Speaker 109 We got to get him out of here. That's my

Speaker 1 first order of business.

Speaker 109 Get BYU the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 I do wonder how the Coogs feel this morning.

Speaker 1 I do. So they had him out.

Speaker 84 He was out.

Speaker 1 Now he's back in. That's right.
Oh, man. Bear Bachmar.

Speaker 75 He's going to have to deal with this for the next three years, his three-year terms.

Speaker 1 His whole career. Oh, no.

Speaker 28 That's tough.

Speaker 54 Ryan Smith needs to make some calls.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 their basketball team actually has been making calls for BYU. They just signed a 22-year-old center out of the G League.

Speaker 145 Yeah, I heard that's becoming a thing.

Speaker 1 People aren't happy about that.

Speaker 46 Speaking of the G League, LeBron's head of Donner.

Speaker 32 He's designated for the South Bay Lakers.

Speaker 99 He will be in the G League doing some five-on-five practicing.

Speaker 47 I think that's maybe because the boys with the Lakers aren't doing that at this time of the season.

Speaker 16 So he needs to go get some work.

Speaker 47 If LeBron James is going to play in a couple G League games and pack these smaller gyms out, it's going to be epic, I think personally.

Speaker 9 This is just like in the offseason.

Speaker 12 I think Kevin Durant.

Speaker 78 has done it. Obviously, Kyrie's done it.
LeBron's done it.

Speaker 118 Kobe did it.

Speaker 1 Like Drew League and then Rucker Park games and like other leagues that are today.

Speaker 21 I think Equinox had a league.

Speaker 1 Jamal Crawford had a league as well.

Speaker 105 Yeah, Crossovers League.

Speaker 63 Like every one of these leagues in the offseason, whenever a superstar shows up, the atmosphere in the gyms are just absolutely outrageous.

Speaker 13 So I don't know if he's playing in any of these games.

Speaker 79 I have no idea if that's even possible.

Speaker 19 But if we're getting an atmosphere like we see in those offseason games that guys are playing, like I think Kevin Durant just won absolutely.

Speaker 110 ape shit at Rutgers if I'm thinking back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get like four or five threes in a row.

Speaker 13 Yeah, that's a moment that goes Kobe showing up, walking out.

Speaker 109 The true league stuff with Kobe is crazy.

Speaker 26 Yeah, insanity.

Speaker 69 Kyrie, obviously, and it's like those are cool content pieces.

Speaker 138 And I'm not saying, hey, the NBA season should be treated like content, but I am saying if this dude's showing up in some G-League gyms and the place is going crazy, that'd be great content, especially with how the Lakers are.

Speaker 20 The Lakers are a good basketball team, right?

Speaker 1 He's not even playing. Yeah, they're rolling.
A lot of people think that when he comes back, it's going to change the entire makeup of the team since he's the problem. He needs the ball.

Speaker 1 And then Luke will have the ball less. KD and Speed actually just played two on two.
I don't know if you saw it. I saw KD walk down.
Yeah, incredible. Yeah, like the fact that they do that stuff.

Speaker 1 I mean, it kind of goes back to the wingman conversation yesterday with the NHL.

Speaker 1 Like, the NBA has always been really good at their stars, kind of promoting themselves, but also just the league and basketball in general in the offseason.

Speaker 58 Speed, so athletic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, legit.

Speaker 47 That is an absurd athlete, this speed guy.

Speaker 23 What a perfect time to be a freak athlete and have the ability to have mocks eat all times.

Speaker 25 Hey, just watch me go conquer all of these things.

Speaker 48 Everybody that's great at everything is going to say, yup, this guy could have done this for a living.

Speaker 55 That's a great content piece.

Speaker 1 And that speed's life.

Speaker 25 I think he was even the mayor of a city, what, in Peru?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, this guy could have been a mayor.
Yeah, exactly. He's like a second away from breaking the NBA record on the six-cone drill or whatever the hell it was.
He's out.

Speaker 1 He both won the Royal Rumble. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 1 almost. That thing turned quickly.

Speaker 87 It did.

Speaker 1 That thing certainly turned quickly. There are bone breakers and explosive athletes as well.

Speaker 24 But on that note, Speed, keep doing it, man.

Speaker 1 We love watching dude. Yeah, baby.
Speed. Impressive.

Speaker 75 Very, very impressive.

Speaker 151 Lethal shooter, also incredible.

Speaker 78 Maybe Lethal gets on that South Bay team.

Speaker 1 So you got Brawling passing it.

Speaker 47 I didn't like the quick analysis you gave of the entire Lakers and the Lakers season that you dropped in right before that.

Speaker 71 But I want to let you know it's good NBA stuff.

Speaker 89 Let's get back to college football.

Speaker 126 You're a Massachusetts guy.

Speaker 50 Did you see your university up there?

Speaker 1 Yeah, my father's a proud alumni. So so go minute men, baby.

Speaker 135 UMass, down 45-zip in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Run it.

Speaker 5 No sound. Guy makes kick.

Speaker 1 54 yards. Beautiful.
What a time.

Speaker 76 Field goal's good.

Speaker 106 We're not shut out anymore.

Speaker 76 Great kick number 99.

Speaker 1 Fireworks.

Speaker 1 What are we doing?

Speaker 5 They were saving that all night.

Speaker 31 They were saving that.

Speaker 33 They got 1,400 people in that crowd.

Speaker 25 Maybe. I'm not 100% sure.

Speaker 1 Sweet fireplace, though.

Speaker 23 Sweet in the barracks in the back there.

Speaker 62 I don't know exactly what that is.

Speaker 58 It's a beer garden back there, the barracks.

Speaker 29 That's pretty cool. I assume some military veteran was part of that entire thing.

Speaker 23 So we appreciate that.

Speaker 1 The Minutemen, obviously, massive military conversation.

Speaker 31 They were waiting to put on a show. They got a night game.

Speaker 1 They got a night game.

Speaker 31 To brand a new stadium.

Speaker 137 What are they supposed to do?

Speaker 4 Put it up whenever they want down 28.

Speaker 1 No, they can't do that.

Speaker 106 So old buddy comes in, kicks a 54-yarder.

Speaker 73 They all go, wow, that's impressive.

Speaker 27 And the guy who's on the button, Mr.

Speaker 1 Zambelli, probably.

Speaker 47 Yeah, that deserves it. Send it.

Speaker 94 Six minutes left in this game.

Speaker 85 What are we going to do?

Speaker 89 Just have you sit here until next 4th of July?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 71 They sent it out there.

Speaker 1 You didn't want them to do that? No, I mean, that's embarrassing.

Speaker 109 You can't be doing that. They knew this type of stuff was going to happen.
Listen, my wife is also a proud alum of Zoom ass. So, like, I get it.
But, I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 Well, fireworks show is cool. It looks cool.

Speaker 109 It looks very, very cool.

Speaker 135 Well, maybe it just so happened to be a fireworks show for the rest of the town.

Speaker 27 Maybe the kick

Speaker 60 happened to happen at the same time as scheduled fireworks

Speaker 22 for a rest of time.

Speaker 63 Maybe it did just so happen to happen.

Speaker 104 This is the highlight of their season. This is a lot of people are saying this is the worst D1 college football team of all time.

Speaker 1 That's not true. That's not true.
Don't listen to Tony. That's not true.
The U.S. Minute Man got a lot of fight.
Okay. Yeah, they're 0-10.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they set out fireworks after hitting a field goal to go down 45-3, but they're building. They're coming.
That's a brand new stadium right there.

Speaker 1 They're setting out the fireworks because it's like, hey, are we going to crumble in the moments when we beat freaking Ohio State? Oh, you think the fireworks people are practicing for years to come?

Speaker 16 They're building a program too.

Speaker 19 Exactly.

Speaker 140 How do we know what these fireworks look like when we need them next year when we're running for a championship if we don't run them this year when we're down 45 zip?

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 24 So they're like, we got to get eyes on these fireworks to see if they're the right one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, make adjustments. You know, I mean, this is, we're talking about Massachusetts.
This is a do-your-job type of time. I don't know if it's a Zambelli.

Speaker 1 If I had to guess, it'd probably be a mix-something or O-something.

Speaker 1 But either way, it's still one of those things where, what, are they going to go in blind when they beat freaking Texas Tech at home next year? I mean, go down the list.

Speaker 1 I won't say my Hoosiers, but Ohio State, they're coming.

Speaker 1 Oregon, they're coming. BYU, don't even think about it, afterthought.

Speaker 1 All those schools, and that is exactly why UMass had to let that one fly. And although the entire press box cackled at them, audibly laughed.

Speaker 1 We don't need that. That's what I read.
Yeah.

Speaker 33 We don't need that.

Speaker 46 Practice makes perfect. All right.

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 32 You think fireworks are perfect all the time?

Speaker 35 No.

Speaker 73 Go to the hospital. Check the records.

Speaker 63 There's a lot of mistakes that happen.

Speaker 25 Now, speaking of fireworks, Audi Crooks, my new favorite basketball player.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 10 21 minutes last night, 43 points, seven rebounds, two assists.

Speaker 11 So there was a report.

Speaker 41 It was in 19 minutes.

Speaker 50 Then we looked at the

Speaker 35 box score said 21 minutes.

Speaker 16 Now, this is reporting 20 minutes, whatever the case.

Speaker 32 Audi Crooks doesn't need a lot of time. Nope.

Speaker 73 But she's going to take over.

Speaker 69 And we just need to be prepared for March Madness for it to be the Audi Crooks show because my timeline has already become that.

Speaker 19 I think every game that she plays, I'm seeing absurd stat lines like this.

Speaker 47 And I legitimately don't think she's stoppable.

Speaker 114 Just from the highlights that I've seen, she goes, takes a break, she comes out, takes over the entire game.

Speaker 30 Okay, then it's Audi Crooks time.

Speaker 1 It is,

Speaker 152 it's like a closing pitcher.

Speaker 52 She gets an entrance.

Speaker 111 Anytime she comes in, the whole place knows.

Speaker 24 The other team knows it's about to go down.

Speaker 27 Her team knows we're putting this ball one place.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. Audi Crooks.

Speaker 11 I think they're winning a national championship.

Speaker 73 They could.

Speaker 1 They're going to win a national championship.

Speaker 109 And she, I mean, she's an Iowa legend. I want to to say she's from Bishop Gehrigan.
I think that's where she went to high school.

Speaker 1 I want to say her mom

Speaker 109 is maybe a Hall of Famer at either Iowa State or at her high school. But she's been doing this stuff.
Like,

Speaker 109 when she really kind of popped onto the scene a couple years ago, I said, okay, I got to take a peek at this and kind of, you know, go through the layers a little bit.

Speaker 109 And I went back and looked at like a lot of her high school box scores. She's been putting up stat lines like that since she's been a freshman.

Speaker 1 Like, she, if she's unstoppable.

Speaker 109 So now it's just a matter of, hey, our team's going to throw five defenders at her. And do we have other girls?

Speaker 145 How's she from the free throw line?

Speaker 1 I think she's pretty decent.

Speaker 109 She fills up the bucket. So, yeah, it's, you know, if Iowa State can find, you know, I haven't done a deep dive on their roster this year.

Speaker 109 I don't know what kind of wing players they have, you know, what kind of guards they have.

Speaker 109 But if they can get a little bit of production outside of her, like she's going to average 30 to 35 points a game.

Speaker 10 72% shooter from the line.

Speaker 18 That's pretty dick.

Speaker 29 Just did the research, and she wasn't the only one.

Speaker 39 Women's college hoops going crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hannah Hidalgo for Notre Dame. She went bananas.
44 points. Yeah, that's cool.
16 steals.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that happened. And just,

Speaker 1 okay, they're playing Akron. I'm so sorry to the Akron women's basketball team that they had to get.
guarded by Hannah Hidalgo because talk about a nightmare.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the record is either for steals in a game, but 16 is the highest I've seen in a long time, just across the board, men's or women. She damn near had a triple double with steals.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 33 Hannah Houdini Hidalgo.

Speaker 5 Now you have it. Now you don't.
She's a magic woman.

Speaker 43 I think it's incredible that she can be the most athletic person on the defensive side.

Speaker 119 Normally, that's the case. The Steals is like reading, quickness, and eye coordination.

Speaker 141 You name it. That's it.

Speaker 65 And then on the other side, fills it up.

Speaker 63 I mean, just absolutely fills it up.

Speaker 13 Hey, Women's College Hoops.

Speaker 130 Hey, I'm not.

Speaker 15 I cannot sit here.

Speaker 41 on this on this day i cannot sit here and say

Speaker 17 that i have watched any of these games in full i will try to at some point in the near future But Women's College Hoops has been coming through the algorithm for me.

Speaker 73 And it's because they have superstars over there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 43 That's a record for who?

Speaker 93 For the entire NCAA?

Speaker 43 Women's NCAA record, 16.

Speaker 40 The record was 14.

Speaker 102 So 16 sales record.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 75 these superstars seemingly in women's college hoops right now, taking over Algo.

Speaker 1 Like multiple. Audi Crooks.

Speaker 20 I don't know who's cooking up the internet for Audi Crooks.

Speaker 108 She's got memes.

Speaker 1 I mean, she's got gifts.

Speaker 130 She is unstoppable.

Speaker 58 And then Hannah Hidalgo, right?

Speaker 1 I'm like, I've never heard of this person.

Speaker 26 Unbelievable.

Speaker 64 Is this the best player of all time?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I have to say it because she plays for Fairfield. But this year's Caitlin Clark right now is Megan Anderson.
She leads Women's Division One. And where does she go?

Speaker 1 She goes to Fairfield University Stags. She's a stag.
She's a stag. She's a stag.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.
Roll Stags. I believe she's averaging like 33 points a game.
Genuine problem.

Speaker 1 They beat Villanova in the first week of the season.

Speaker 45 They came and played Indiana, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they came and played Indiana. It was real tight for a quarter or two.
But again, we were a little bit outmatched, but we didn't have Megan Anderson.

Speaker 58 Update, 16 steals is a record for both men's and women's college hoops.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, Anna Hidalgo. Unbelievable.

Speaker 130 Here's some Hembo stats on Hannah Hidalgo.

Speaker 43 44 points breaks Notre Dame's scoring record as well.

Speaker 1 Jeez. Okay.
Good night. A lot of great players.

Speaker 57 Sorry, we did not know this.

Speaker 75 We are getting these stats in real time from hembo this is 100 on we should have looked into it we will i think hands up i don't think we are the women's college hoops go-to but maybe if superstars are showing up every single night why not ty and we also did take a program we did

Speaker 109 to go celebrate women's march madness we did in iowa in the middle of a blizzard in the middle of a blizzard bad blizzard we saw a lot of semis in the you know middle of the highway that kind of stuff but it's also it's early early right now you know so we're you're not gonna you don't need to pay attention to this kind of stuff once we get into conference play and we're seeing you know audi crooks taking on whoever texas' best player that's when you really zone in you say okay college basketball season's here they fill the bucket up they do they fill the bucket up did we watch before caitlin clark was uh playing

Speaker 44 I remember watching the WVU women's basketball team whenever I was at school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when I was in school, I went to a game or two. They were a cool group of girls.
Like Taurasi, era when they were at UConn. Taurasi was a beast.

Speaker 86 Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 38 And then Candace.

Speaker 1 Candace Parker, yeah, Tennessee.

Speaker 89 It's always like superstar-driven.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 109 Skylar Diggins.

Speaker 1 I mean, I figured she had the Notre Dame points recorded, too.

Speaker 15 Yeah, she did, I think, 41, maybe.

Speaker 25 Nope.

Speaker 56 Ruth Riley in 1999 had 41.

Speaker 1 She was a dog.

Speaker 47 And Jewel Lloyd, obviously, in 2014 had 41.

Speaker 25 Scored 18 straight Notre Dame points in the first half and 12 straight points for either team in the second quarter.

Speaker 52 She won 12

Speaker 65 in in the second quarter against this team.

Speaker 1 That's unbelievable. Zips are a good team.
Yeah, tough night for you.

Speaker 1 But that's what we were just talking about with the NBA. Like, it is a stars-driven league.
It's really just a stars-driven sport.

Speaker 1 Like, in college basketball, we had Cooper flag last year, and there's a couple other players this year now.

Speaker 1 But if there aren't massive, massive stars just in hoops in general, it's just not something you follow as closely. But the women's basketball has a ton this year now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about the football, shall we?

Speaker 62 Cooper Cup is heading back to SoFi.

Speaker 121 You know, he's obviously back home with the Seattle Seahawks, a man who's from that area, has joined the Seattle Seahawks team, and they have become...

Speaker 1 A wagon. Okay, a wagon.

Speaker 16 But Cooper Cup's no stranger to wagons.

Speaker 23 He's been a part of a few before.

Speaker 61 Remember, he's the man who won the, they always say triple crown, but they forget also the yards after catch.

Speaker 1 So he won all four of the wide receiver ones.

Speaker 23 We're talking yards, touchdowns, catches, and yards after catch.

Speaker 89 Cooper Cup, special talent.

Speaker 72 Nobody could have expected him either with who he was.

Speaker 85 Not Not a lot of fanfare.

Speaker 60 And then him and Matthew Stafford just won absolutely absurd.

Speaker 15 He goes to Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 47 Now he's going back to SoFi.

Speaker 85 You know, won a Super Bowl there, won some awards there, did some things to welcome Los Angeles and the Rams back into that city and that stadium.

Speaker 58 And here's him talking about the emotions of heading back to SoFi.

Speaker 154 It's another football game.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 154 You out there play your game.

Speaker 154 Yeah, I mean, love these guys. I love, love so many of the guys over there.
And

Speaker 154 by the end of the day,

Speaker 1 I gotta go play a football game. So

Speaker 154 that's gonna be what it is. Try to treat this the same as any other game.

Speaker 154 Yeah, go out there and just be able to lock in for your job one play after the next and

Speaker 154 take that play-by-play mindset.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 154 same as usual.

Speaker 156 Where it is that they're gonna do some sort of tribute to you there.

Speaker 157 How do you acknowledge that and also stay locked in, like you're talking about?

Speaker 154 Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, I didn't die.
You know, I'm here.

Speaker 154 Yeah, I mean, I appreciate it. It's obviously so thankful for my time there.

Speaker 1 Incredible experience.

Speaker 154 Built so much with just the fans, with the guys that I was able to play with. And just

Speaker 154 great experiences from nothing but love

Speaker 1 for that city.

Speaker 154 You gotta be able to lock in for the game and what's ahead of you. So

Speaker 154 I think it'll be fun. I'm excited to about that.
This is really a football team.

Speaker 1 Really a football team.

Speaker 154 You know, presents some great challenges for us.

Speaker 44 Obviously, players returning to a team that they had a lot of success with is no stranger to the NFL.

Speaker 43 The business is the

Speaker 43 business.

Speaker 85 Earlier this year, Micah Parsons going back to Dallas was obviously a huge story.

Speaker 15 And Jerry said there will be no tribute.

Speaker 123 He's got enough good stuff.

Speaker 1 They're going to clap for him, basically.

Speaker 86 Now, if Emmett comes back, that's a little different.

Speaker 110 Different story.

Speaker 1 Troll Aikman, two eights. Different story.
These are all different stories. You know, we mountaintop here.
Mountaintop here.

Speaker 86 Cooper Cup coming back to L.A., I assume that's going to be a

Speaker 1 huge.

Speaker 43 I think it's probably going to be a massively positive response.

Speaker 47 And I think that's how probably everybody feels about the situation, including Rams and Seahawks fans alike.

Speaker 109 Yeah, I mean, we talked about it. Like, the Micah stuff never really made sense because they didn't win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 109 Like, he was obviously an unbelievable player, but Cooper Cup won a Super Bowl with them. I think we talked about it earlier this week.
Like, he was, you know,

Speaker 109 he was the last guy outside a quarterback to get MVP votes the year he had the triple crown and, you know, the yak. So it's like

Speaker 109 he is the one who kind of, him and Stafford, obviously, but like he was the best receiver in the NFL. And he was the one who really helped kind of launch this new Rams.
I don't know.

Speaker 109 You can't really call it a dynasty, but like he was the one who. Maybe.
Yeah, exactly. Like they are.

Speaker 109 Yeah, a pillar of them being in L.A. And it's like, hey, this is L.A.'s team now.
So it makes sense that they would have a very warm welcome for him.

Speaker 16 Cooper Cup, whenever you talk about history, he's sitting at the top of it.

Speaker 106 Damn.

Speaker 6 Receptions, including playoffs.

Speaker 96 2021, Cooper Cup, 178.

Speaker 19 Receiving yards, 2021, 2,425 yards.

Speaker 150 Second place, Larry Fitzgerald in the history of the NFL, 1,977.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Holy shit.
Yeah, a lot of big playoff moments for him. Not a lot.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what.

Speaker 68 that's an insane stat right there.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 10 2,425 yards, receiving yards is the most in NFL history, including the playoffs.

Speaker 9 Obviously, they win that year.

Speaker 75 Larry Fitzgerald in second, under 2,000.

Speaker 75 He's closer to 3,000.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 51 Yeah, I mean, he's...

Speaker 1 What a season.

Speaker 76 Is he going to do that again?

Speaker 1 Is he going to do it with Sam Donald next year, have a fully healthy season or maybe to do this again?

Speaker 23 And then first downs, obviously, NSC, he had 108.

Speaker 79 Michael Irvin, Playmaker, had 100 in 1995.

Speaker 46 He was special.

Speaker 24 Cooper Cup and the Rams are special, special.

Speaker 29 If you're seeing a guy as a fan of a team go for 2,425 yards in one season, I assume your natural reaction whenever you see that person later in life is going to be, hey,

Speaker 1 I love this. Yeah.

Speaker 46 So this weekend, I think, will be a good return for Cooper Cup, and I'm happy for him for that.

Speaker 109 He almost had 200 catches. He had like four years worth of production in one season and a playoff run.
Like, that's

Speaker 109 fucking insane.

Speaker 1 And for that reason,

Speaker 1 78%.

Speaker 153 what's the number of percentage of bets that are on the Seahawks right now?

Speaker 10 74% of the money are on the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 21 Plus three and a half going into LA.

Speaker 6 LA is wearing very cool uniforms.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 88 They're wearing midnight mode.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Great name, great uni.

Speaker 71 Okay.

Speaker 100 And we assume the fans are potentially going into midnight mode as well.

Speaker 1 Have to.

Speaker 71 I assume it's going to be pretty dark out there so far.

Speaker 33 It's going to be a daunting place.

Speaker 58 They'll clap for Cooper grub

Speaker 1 and then we're back to whose house

Speaker 1 rams

Speaker 64 matthew stafford with those teeth all dark

Speaker 128 you'll be able to see it's gonna turn like this and they're gonna he's actually gonna use his teeth as a decoy for one of the safeties

Speaker 106 this way and that safety is gonna go i got matthew stafford this pizza and then matthew stafford's gonna do one of these whoom over and it's gonna go right over the safety out this son of a bitch and then it's gonna be puka going haha and then he's gonna run so hard maybe through a wall yeah maybe through a wall on the back.

Speaker 1 That's what we're looking at in the four o'clock slate this Sunday. Remember what last week four o'clock slate was.

Speaker 28 Let's look forward to this one about to be gigantic, Tony.

Speaker 104 I just remembered when I was sitting in Hammer Downtown yesterday, I had a hypothetical for you guys. If you could pop that slate back up, so we're talking about Rams and Seahawks now.

Speaker 104 There's another huge NFC game, and that's Eagles and Lions. If I gave you Seahawks Rams or Eagles Lions, which game would you take?

Speaker 104 You would want the team to win the Super Bowl. Do you think Lions winner comes from that game or winner comes from the Rams and Seahawks? Let's not even say Super Bowl.
Let's say wins the NFC.

Speaker 1 I'll go Seahawks or Rams. Me too.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 109 I think the Rams might be the best team, or the Seahawks might be the best team in the NFL right now. And the Rams might be the second best.

Speaker 41 And I don't think they're getting anywhere near where they're headed.

Speaker 1 No. I think Seahawks are only getting better.

Speaker 58 It's like the Colts.

Speaker 110 Like, the Colts are so new.

Speaker 58 Everybody, a lot of new pieces.

Speaker 119 We're only going to get better.

Speaker 90 That's why I think we're so pumped.

Speaker 108 Seahawks, same exact thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I mean, this is Sam's first year up there.

Speaker 20 He's signed a big deal to be their quarterback.

Speaker 108 That's only going to get better, we assume, going forward.

Speaker 68 And McDonald's defense, we just, that's going to be good.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable.

Speaker 24 Like, we just say that's good. Seahawks, very much up and to the right.

Speaker 16 Yes. And to your point, they're already

Speaker 1 up here. Right.
And then the other side is about to be going crazy.

Speaker 120 You got the Super Bowl defending champion in the Lions who that ceiling is incredible.

Speaker 104 That's a good, good slate for the answer.

Speaker 147 All right.

Speaker 90 We'll answer that question tomorrow. Let's go back to college football.

Speaker 19 We have another update from Heather Dinich.

Speaker 16 Arkansas Athletic Director Hunter Urich has been nominated to be the chair of the college football playoff committee.

Speaker 24 So he's already on the committee.

Speaker 15 He is being nominated to be the chair of it.

Speaker 6 And then Utah A.D.

Speaker 25 Mark Harlan nominated to replace Mac Rhodes, who stepped down.

Speaker 142 So we got a little two-chair swing here happening at this point.

Speaker 69 Arkansas A.D.

Speaker 23 Hunter Urich is being considered for the CFP committee chair.

Speaker 47 He is currently on the committee.

Speaker 85 The CFP management committee has to approve it before it's official.

Speaker 46 So the committee within the committee has to approve that the committee now has a new chair who was already a part of one of the committees. Okay.
Now this particular committee has an open spot.

Speaker 25 They're bringing in Utah Mark Harmon and the committee and the committee in the committee have to agree to Mark Harlan coming back to join their bigger committee, but probably not in the selection of the selection committee.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 109 And Heather mentioned that it's possible that Mac Rhodes would come back based on this new information.

Speaker 109 Do you think we can assume that he's done and they're just filling this spot now and that will be the new person for the next three years?

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 98 They had to put somebody a chair, right?

Speaker 1 So they had to be the chair.

Speaker 23 So I assume that's a decision they had to make.

Speaker 6 I think the Mac Rhodes thing, like what we learned from Outkick and then what ESPN sources are getting, very different stories.

Speaker 43 Right.

Speaker 19 So maybe there's multiple things going on or maybe we don't know what's going on.

Speaker 83 So like who knows what happens with Mac Rhodes?

Speaker 71 Because if it is a full investigation and it ends up being quick, I assume he's not coming back this season.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 47 But like it's three-year term. Does he come back next year?

Speaker 112 And would it be that big a fanfare or a conversation?

Speaker 124 Probably not.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 76 And that's probably what Mark Harmon, Utah ED, is coming in with the understanding.

Speaker 118 If I had to guess.

Speaker 24 Now, granted, if that investigation ends up being something for real, there's no way he'll be a part of this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no way.

Speaker 1 Do you think because of a situation like this, and I hate that I'm going to say it, but is it time to combine the college football playoff with the BCS model and possibly have not just humans deciding exactly what the playoff should be, but maybe bringing in an AI, maybe bringing in a computer to assist because then you don't have to deal with all this momentum.

Speaker 137 But what's the AI gonna do? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 31 I don't think the AI knows both.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 31 I don't think.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 78 That time's coming.

Speaker 31 Not today. Combine the two.

Speaker 1 Humans and AI.

Speaker 47 Yeah, well, then it's always the human making the decision with more information than everybody else.

Speaker 65 And Nick just said what you said is the BCS, so you got it right.

Speaker 47 I want these humans to just get it right.

Speaker 1 Let's get it right. Let's get it right.

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Speaker 4 Football. Hey is the greatest.

Speaker 61 Tonight, week 11 of the NFL season kicks off in the AFC East as the Patriots host the New York Jets on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 101 That game will kick off at 8.15.

Speaker 160 The pre-show, I believe, begins at 7.

Speaker 14 It's a great show.

Speaker 118 They do a very, very good job.

Speaker 60 The show is phenomenal.

Speaker 69 The evening will be spectacular.

Speaker 16 And we'll be seeing if the New England Patriots are who we we potentially think they are.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 42 Which is an absolutely dominant force.

Speaker 16 The quarterback for the New England Patriots, Drake May, the odds-on favorite to win the MVP.

Speaker 23 They got superstars all over the place.

Speaker 39 Mike Vrabel was doing his thing, which we all understand is winning football.

Speaker 101 Remember, he took the Tennessee Titans, where I think they had like 119 different guys on the roster, the most amount of IR people, to be the number one seed in the AFC.

Speaker 25 He has an ability to lead a group of men on a football field, maybe better than anybody ever when it's all said and done.

Speaker 12 We have no idea what's about to happen here with the New England Patriots and Mike Vrable for the next 20 years, actually.

Speaker 11 And if you look at what happened to the Tennessee Titans as soon as he leaves the building, and then you look at what happened to the Patriots building once he enters the building, you think to yourself, wow, this Ohio fuck might be good at leading men in football.

Speaker 4 It's fun to watch.

Speaker 48 It's a physical style of football.

Speaker 98 Everybody's bought in.

Speaker 70 And New England people, once again, have the ability to be incredibly arrogant about their football team.

Speaker 1 On that note, let's go to the talks and table at Boss Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Do you feel, though, something from Khan, man, today?

Speaker 14 It feels like he's more confident and more happy and more energized about this particular primetime game than maybe in the years past when the Patriots were going to be watched by a lot of people.

Speaker 109 Yeah, I think so, but he's justified. I mean, I would not have wanted to hear him coming in and be like, oh, I don't know.
I'm worried about this one.

Speaker 109 Maybe we're going to win 21, 17, but no, we're going to win 42-0. We're going to beat the shit out of these guys because that's what good teams do.

Speaker 109 And I think, like, for it was kind of a trendy pick in the preseason, you know, before the season started. Hey, the Patriots are probably going to go to the playoffs.

Speaker 109 Like you look at their schedule, it's pretty favorable. But for guys like Vrabel and Harbaugh, like the regular, hey, come in, take a while to build your culture, it doesn't apply.

Speaker 109 Vrabel is a winner, like Harbaugh is a winner.

Speaker 109 I think you could just know, and obviously Drake May has taken a huge leap, but it was very easy to see once he got here, like this guy's going to turn them around and he's going to do it very quickly.

Speaker 128 Connor, even when they were losing, every single game that they were losing, he'd say, Drake May's a guy.

Speaker 1 Drake May is a guy.

Speaker 99 Yeah, we lost, but Drake May is a guy.

Speaker 20 Right now, it's all about Drake May surviving until next season.

Speaker 23 It's basically what you were saying last year about him.

Speaker 77 Has he gotten much better from last year? Has this kind of been who Drake May has been?

Speaker 1 Much better. I mean, without a doubt.
And that's why a lot of the times on Monday, I like to talk about how good McDaniels is.

Speaker 1 Because without Josh McDaniels, I mean, I've seen it firsthand with Mac Jones. As soon as that really good offensive coach leaves, that quarterback has a massive drop-off.

Speaker 1 And it's the reverse situation here where the right coach comes in and it just completely catapults the team, the quarterback, everybody, the city, the region, the revolution region, into a different stratosphere.

Speaker 1 Like that is why it's so special. And that's the same to what Ty said.
That's why I came in here feeling this way because there isn't that lack of confidence in the team.

Speaker 1 Everything they say about, you know, whether it's after the game, about the win, amazing. Everything they say about the game that is coming up the next week is perfect.

Speaker 1 There really isn't too many flaws right now. And to Ty's point about the favorable schedule, it's like, yeah, great.
We did have a favorable schedule.

Speaker 1 I didn't know if we were going to beat the Bills at Buffalo. I didn't know if we were going to beat Tampa at Tampa, but now we did.
Now we're 8-2.

Speaker 1 And then when you're talking about the game tonight, it's like, oh, who's the keeper of the light? Oh, is it, is it Larry Guy? No, it's Rob Gronkowski. With Gronk back for a while.

Speaker 5 Good luck, Jets.

Speaker 1 Gronk re-signing for a day and retiring. a New England Patriot.
I don't know if he knows how much that means people in New England, but for me, that was huge. Like, Like I love you, Gronk.

Speaker 1 That is so cool. You know, Julian Edelman did the entire Foxborough forever.
He never left, but he did that once he was done. And that, you know, that means a lot to people who are fans of the team.

Speaker 1 And for Gronk, he ended up going to Tampa with Brady to win another Super Bowl. You can't fault him for that.

Speaker 1 But for him to do this kind of just strictly for no reason aside from like, hey, New England just means more to me. New England is where I was kind of...
birthed as Gronk, the Gronk spike.

Speaker 1 He wasn't a top 10 pick. He wasn't a first-round pick.
He became Gronk with Brady, of course, and that's why he went to Tampa, justifiably. And then him coming back just means a lot.

Speaker 1 Him lighting the lamp tonight, Keeper of the Light. I mean, again, 42-0.
That's what it should be tonight, and that's what I expect it to be.

Speaker 61 I mean, multiple times Gronk has said that he loves that area.

Speaker 15 I mean, they're going to trade him to another place.

Speaker 97 He's all just retired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 101 And Tom had to talk him into going to Tampa.

Speaker 21 So him getting a chance to celebrate his time in New England, I thought was really cool.

Speaker 110 Sweet.

Speaker 142 And I think that is a great thing.

Speaker 149 Kraft also saying, ah, maybe a two-day contract.

Speaker 70 Maybe we get you on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 Drake May, Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Brabel, Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 34 That would be a great little pairing there to watch.

Speaker 78 And another thing about Gronk, just because I don't think he got a lot of national attention, a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 43 Obviously, he's Western New York, Buffalo guy.

Speaker 108 His final year of high school, he went to Woody High, which is in Pittsburgh, Woodland Hills.

Speaker 74 W,

Speaker 1 double-O-D-Y, Woody High.

Speaker 40 Great football team.

Speaker 81 That's where he graduated high school from.

Speaker 102 That's where

Speaker 35 Taylor's from.

Speaker 1 Jason Taylor's from.

Speaker 50 Many other greats have been through.

Speaker 148 You're talking about... Your mother?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sally McAfee went through those hallways in that school.

Speaker 46 Stevie Breston, obviously a dog.

Speaker 118 What in the Wolverina, where they play at is like folklore in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 16 Like he went there to play.

Speaker 90 He donated this past offseason, I think like 200,000.

Speaker 80 And then he got another company to match that 400,000 back to the school, which they certainly are very appreciative of that at Woody High.

Speaker 43 So it's like this dude is he's certainly always gronk and as somebody who is very much me most of the time there are certainly people that don't like the way i operate literally every portion of my life.

Speaker 16 I'm assuming there's people that don't like Gronk.

Speaker 111 And certainly we've seen it and seen it on the internet and everything like that.

Speaker 85 Gronk is just seemingly always the same guy.

Speaker 24 And you can tell his empathy with the things he chooses to do and what he doesn't choose to do.

Speaker 1 I'm a big fan of Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 32 And when you talk about football, that guy's in the pantheon of best players of all time.

Speaker 95 Unguardable, like actually unguardable.

Speaker 19 And he never changed.

Speaker 16 Like he never, he was never like too good for anything.

Speaker 53 They said he always worked his ass off.

Speaker 23 They talk about his football feel and his football IQ as if it's at a level that nobody else has ever had.

Speaker 12 He was one of the only, he was the youngest guy on the NFL 100 year, 100 top 100 players team.

Speaker 1 Just had a big ass red jacket on.

Speaker 114 You know, go the entire thing.

Speaker 48 It's like, Rob Gronkowski's special player, special person.

Speaker 80 The NFL was lucky to have him.

Speaker 70 I'm happy what happened with New England was happening as well.

Speaker 1 Me too. And just to echo your sentiment about Woody High, I believe he also did the same thing for Boston College High School, BC High, which has produced very, very high Division I players.

Speaker 1 So he did that entire weight room thing. And to your point about the Pantheon, like, I'm so glad that he retired a Patriot so that now I can come on here and say, without a doubt,

Speaker 1 I love Kelsey. I get it.
Rob Gronkowski is the greatest tight end in the history of football. No, no question.
Yeah. Like without, you really can't even argue it when you truly look at football.

Speaker 97 People say tonight's awesome played longer.

Speaker 1 So the thing is, these people all played longer, right?

Speaker 47 Like that's kind of the, and durability and duration of your career are certainly a big deal.

Speaker 68 Everybody talks about Barry Sanders retiring early, still making the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 59 Calvin Johnson as well, still had a lot of years left, still made to Hall of Fame.

Speaker 73 Those are special outliers.

Speaker 1 Normally, whenever they're talking about the greatest, long, long careers is what everybody talks about.

Speaker 46 Gronk, with how big, athletic, strong, everything that he was,

Speaker 81 had some back stuff coming into the league, played a lot of football, dominated a lot of football, and then kind of goes out on his own terms.

Speaker 86 That's the only thing you can really hold against Gronk, whatever you're in that conversation, is that he didn't play as long as everybody else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. Because when he, I mean, you could not stop him.

Speaker 109 You just couldn't. Like when he was in his prime, he was literally unstoppable.
And that is the, I mean, that is a big part of it, durability and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 109 But he, he played the way he played, and that was so great. Like, it was kind of inevitable.
And like, they changed the rule, didn't they?

Speaker 109 For because of like ways that he was getting hit, going across the middle, going low. And I think that kind of started maybe some of the knee or ankle problems.

Speaker 1 He's a less tackle out there.

Speaker 109 Exactly. And he was running up 4-5, 4-6.

Speaker 1 And he could block.

Speaker 109 And

Speaker 109 that's the big part, I think, that people who remember him and watch him obviously remember that.

Speaker 109 But a lot of the highlights we see now are just this type of stuff where it's the run after the catch and him being untackable.

Speaker 109 But he was a de facto left or right tackle if they needed him to be. And he was one of the best in the NFL.

Speaker 1 And that's why it's sweet watching guys like Tucker Kraft, because that is who he reminds you of, and now Tyler Warren.

Speaker 1 Like you're seeing all these fullback stats coming out about Tyler Warren as well. And just my favorite Gronk story is Gronk when he was doing the draft process.

Speaker 1 Bill O'Brien was running him through the process. Bill draws a play on the whiteboard, erases it, says, hey, Rob, you know, redraw the play.
Tell me what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 And Rob just says, like, I don't know what to do. And Bill O'Brien says, like, well,

Speaker 1 how are we supposed to draft you if you don't even know what play or what you're supposed to do on that play that I just showed you?

Speaker 1 And he said, I don't know, Bill, just throw me the fucking ball and I'll make stuff, I'll make shit happen.

Speaker 1 And that is just the definition of Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 52 Can't he say the meeting went terrible.

Speaker 46 Yeah, Rob said it went either very good or very terrible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 that one was with Bill O'Brien. The one with Bill Belichick, they bring them in there and they kind of take them through like a, they take everybody through like a psychological.

Speaker 1 almost, you know, day, and they just left Rob Gronkowski in a room. You know, you leave the guys who are visiting in a room for an hour, two hours to see what they do.
And Gronk just fell asleep.

Speaker 1 He's the only player to ever just fall asleep in a room. And then Belichick still was like, yeah, this guy, I mean, we have to get him.

Speaker 59 Well, it was that Goldman Sachs, allegedly.

Speaker 112 They had a thing where every employee that became there became a millionaire, I think, because of how much money they had.

Speaker 47 And one of the things, whenever you're first trying to get a job is they would tell you like the interview is happening at like 6 a.m.

Speaker 150 or something or 6.30 a.m.

Speaker 62 And they wouldn't meet with them until like 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 the next day. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 It was like, all right, let's just see who will sit their ass in this thing for 36 hours or whatever the case is and it's like that's a hilarious thing the patriots were doing that not a bad play not at all but also i don't know if i want my guy to like just sit there yeah like what do i want him to do i don't know what the right answer is sleeping probably the right answer

Speaker 1 all right i'm just gonna go ahead and snooze here maybe just like banging his head to the wall until you come back we're gonna pass it somebody yeah is somebody taking that time to draw up plays you know like because you're being watched like how do assholes act in that thing i don't know what you maybe on your phone i have no idea what you would do let's go to one half of the hammer down cowboys AP Tone.

Speaker 49 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live from Anatican, Ohio is college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, A.J.

Speaker 1 Hawk.

Speaker 152 Hawker, what would you do if you were left in a room for two hours on one of the visits there?

Speaker 49 I didn't even think of that being a thing.

Speaker 161 Yeah, I think I would naturally fall asleep. That Gronk, I give him credit for really trusting his body, taking care of his temple.

Speaker 161 That's why I would tell the coaches, well, you know, coach, recover and rest and recovery. You guys run me around all these meetings all over the place.
I'm still in college.

Speaker 161 I don't know. I mean, you probably have some hardos like act like they're doing push-ups or something.
The coach walks in and he says, 226, 227, like acting. I mean, maybe guys have done that.

Speaker 161 I'm not really sure how to respond.

Speaker 48 Hey, we were pumped to see Gronk retire as a New England Patriot.

Speaker 1 Oddly, I was like oddly pumped to watch it all kind of go down, mostly because I enjoy watching Gronk get like flowers, you know, strictly because Tom Brady's talked about as the GOAT, Bill Belichick, obviously.

Speaker 44 And there's a lot of great players on that team.

Speaker 63 There's one guy that was there that just, you know, best of all time, potentially,

Speaker 1 just football as a whole.

Speaker 27 And Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 49 And his natural energy about him is not like, whoa, look at me.

Speaker 63 Let's have a celebration for me and everything.

Speaker 55 I want to have a good time. I want to have a good time.

Speaker 29 Basically, is Rob Gronkowski's mindset.

Speaker 19 His vibes in the locker room had to be.

Speaker 31 You're talking about maybe one of the greatest glue guys of all time.

Speaker 28 If his vibes are always, let's have a good time.

Speaker 24 So them going out of their way to celebrate him, I enjoy that for Rob Gronkowski, if that makes sense, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 161 No, I think they should. And he absolutely, he had great answers.
when they talked about building him a statue.

Speaker 161 He said, put me a small one in the back of the end zone because Tom's the only one that deserves a statue. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 161 I mean, when you run those highlights, you almost, we forget like what, how dominant this dude was. You can argue whether he's the greatest of all time, whatever.

Speaker 161 I don't know if anyone's ever had as big an impact when he was in the game as Rob Gronkowski does as a tight end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that might be the kicker because the argument of greatest of all time,

Speaker 1 you're never going to get to an answer. But now that I'm thinking about it, it's more Shaquille O'Neal.
Like he is the most dominant player at tight end

Speaker 1 in a hitch right here. Yeah.

Speaker 24 Yeah, the catch was absurd.

Speaker 85 Then after the catch was insane.

Speaker 58 And then, oh, yeah, he has the feet of a shorebird somehow, and he's the size of a Clydesdale.

Speaker 52 And his stiff arm is lethal.

Speaker 41 And I saw him.

Speaker 108 I saw him just take people to the stance.

Speaker 84 Literally against us.

Speaker 80 Took a guy to the stands.

Speaker 1 Just because he pissed him off. A year prior.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 48 So he has a spite too, which is obviously incredible.

Speaker 16 Yeah, great player.

Speaker 95 Joining us now is a man who probably has an an opinion or two about Rob Gronkowski and this new New England Patriots team that feels a lot like the old New England Patriots team.

Speaker 89 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, our coach, Coach Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, coach.

Speaker 1 How you doing? All right, good afternoon, man.

Speaker 136 Doing great. How you doing today, Pat?

Speaker 135 I like what you're... What's going on there?

Speaker 152 What do you got behind?

Speaker 76 Is that me? I think I see me.

Speaker 62 Is that me up there?

Speaker 136 You're going back to the berg, yes. I thought we'd get, let's jump right into this thing here.
We got,

Speaker 136 get right in.

Speaker 136 in here i'll make it a little bigger for you oh i hit the wrong button it's all right see that thing yeah i see that thing is that me i see promani's there i see you're yeah you know every time i get on the show connor and ty all you guys are always talking about odds and everything so i was just trying to fit in

Speaker 136 and i thought well what the hell could i come up with and i thought well what are the odds that Pat's going to be at Permanis after midnight. So

Speaker 136 we put that out there and you're two to one favorite to get ready to take off.

Speaker 136 And I just thought we would recognize you and

Speaker 136 going back to Pittsburgh because I know how fired up you got to be.

Speaker 136 And you definitely got to hit Permanis when you get back to the burger.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I certainly will, especially down there in the strip.

Speaker 47 Whenever Nick got married, we stayed in the strip.

Speaker 24 We did a couple laps around there, you know, for the nostalgia days.

Speaker 19 Yeah, we used to be roaming those particular alleys there at certain times of the night.

Speaker 20 You know, there was certain situations.

Speaker 122 But it always felt as if you got a Permanente sandwich.

Speaker 73 They got great pizza as well. Nobody ever talks about their pizza.

Speaker 63 Their pizza is phenomenal.

Speaker 111 It's an Italian thing.

Speaker 47 It's in Pittsburgh. The pizza is going to be great.

Speaker 76 But you have that 2.33 a.m., Coach.

Speaker 121 It was funny how you all of a sudden just came back to life and felt amazing and went to bed.

Speaker 19 You know, it was kind of like a nightcap there at Permanis.

Speaker 23 And I appreciate the fact that you understand that city.

Speaker 16 You went back

Speaker 46 a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 59 Was that your first time back long time?

Speaker 137 Because it felt like you got a little bit of a parade there as well.

Speaker 136 No, no, I try to get back here about every six, six, seven weeks now, you know, in my off year for sure. But yeah, definitely.
I mean, Permanentis for me was decades, many decades ago.

Speaker 136 And really the history of the place, my understanding, it really opened up because of the trucking industry down there at the Strip District and the produce yards back

Speaker 136 in the day, and then became a spot for after-hours eating. And then obviously they've done a phenomenal job since then with their expansion.
But a lot of great memories down there at the Strip.

Speaker 94 Well, everything's on the sandwich because we don't have a lot of time.

Speaker 24 Okay, we don't have time to eat the side alongside the sandwich.

Speaker 48 Allegedly, it was all placed onto the sandwich, the french fries, coleslaw, everything on top of the sandwich.

Speaker 127 So it was just one quick meal as opposed to everything on the outside which i think is great indicative for what pittsburgh is hard working town hey hard working town football town i think this weekend's going to be epic and uh yeah thank you for giving me a little love there i think that's a fatter version of me you guys i think that's a fatter version of me yeah yeah coach i think i think uh no you know obviously we we blew we blew it up because we wanted to make sure we highlighted

Speaker 136 yeah that's that's not that's not the scale okay i appreciate you doing that uh all right let's talk some balls, shall we?

Speaker 23 Tonight, AFC East, Jets taking on the Patriots.

Speaker 98 We just got done talking about the glory days of the Patriots with Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 16 What are your thoughts whenever I say his name?

Speaker 44 And obviously, he was the youngest player on the top 100 team for the 100-year NFL anniversary.

Speaker 61 What do you think it says about Rob?

Speaker 19 And what are your thoughts on him as a player?

Speaker 136 I mean, dominant player. I mean, you've already stated, but when I think of Rob Gronkowski, let's just go back to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 136 I remember the first time I heard about Rob when he was at Woodland Hills High School coming out, And I think he went out there to University of Arizona.

Speaker 136 So I think he, and I know my time in the NFL, is by far the most dominant and pure Y tight end.

Speaker 136 I mean, to play the way he played on the line of scrimmage and, you know, and just, you know, New England, their heyday with the 12 personnel,

Speaker 136 he was just always such a force. And just the connection that him and Tom Brady had was, you know, was

Speaker 136 probably as good as there's ever played the game as far as tight end and quarterback connection. And, you you know, you watch, you watch these guys go through their career.

Speaker 136 Obviously, a great player in New England, but there's a play that stands out to me.

Speaker 136 I was coaching the Cowboys and we were playing Tampa down there in Tampa. And, you know,

Speaker 136 and there was a play down by the red zone where Tom just came right back on his third step and just rick and ripped it. And we, you know, we practice it all week.

Speaker 136 And the timing and precision of him throwing to Gronk, the timing of it because, you know, his catching radius and AJ could probably could attest defending this is just, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 136 You know, so he's just a guy that was always open. And just, and that's the connection that they had.

Speaker 136 But, and I really like the point that you made, you know, because it doesn't go, you know, it doesn't get talked about enough. He was a dominant run blocker.

Speaker 136 I mean, he was a dominant player at the line of scrimmage. And,

Speaker 136 you know, you see the highlights of him catching touchdowns, running people over. But, you know, he did it.

Speaker 136 He did it on first, second, third nine, all the way through and was a phenomenal red zone threat.

Speaker 16 I don't like that he's the keeper of the light tonight if I'm the New York Jets, let's talk about the game. It feels like Drake May and Mike Vraba are going to be special for the next 20 years.

Speaker 16 Josh McDaniels has come out and said,

Speaker 16 I like being with Drake. My family likes being here.

Speaker 152 Head coach and things sweet, but I'm in a good spot here.

Speaker 57 Drake's 23 years old.

Speaker 16 This could literally go on for two more decades if they play their cards right, which we assume they will.

Speaker 26 What are your thoughts on this current New England Patriots team?

Speaker 100 And does it remind you of the last Patriots team?

Speaker 26 Or kind of how do you view this particular squad?

Speaker 136 Oh, yeah, definitely. I don't think you could, could, you know, the similarities are

Speaker 136 definitely just jump out at you for sure. You know, to be sitting there at eight and two, super impressive.

Speaker 136 You know, I think giving credit to Mike Rabel and also the personnel department there, you know, they got young guys that are playing right now and playing at a high level.

Speaker 136 So, and I think that's even more exciting to me as I watch them because they're eight and two, but there's definitely a lot of growth. I mean, do you start with the offensive line?

Speaker 136 Because the line is always, when I'm looking at this type of, you know, a matchup, do you start with

Speaker 136 the offensive and defensive lines? And I think both the Jets and the Patriots

Speaker 136 have committed resources to their O lines and definitely will benefit from it moving forward.

Speaker 136 But Drake's playing at a high level, but there's definitely still things that he's only going to get better at. And I think, in fact,

Speaker 136 the point you made about Josh being there,

Speaker 136 if you can keep the quarterback in the same system, I just know personally from working, you know, watching Joe Montana go through his whole career in the same system, Brett Favre, Aaron Rogers.

Speaker 136 And it was really a decision that we've made in Dallas to keep Dak in the same type of system and so forth. So that continuity for him will pay huge dividends.
And they're off to a great start.

Speaker 136 Really love what they're doing on offense.

Speaker 136 And I think clearly defense is the strength of the football team. And, you know, and I like the way Mike's built this thing because when you look at the way they play, the way they're built,

Speaker 136 when you're top five, top 10, right out of the gate in year one and both running the football and stopping to run you know that that plays well for you know for playoff football and and puts you in that champ championship you know formula of how you want to play especially up there in new england so um really like everything i've seen the last couple days on these guys and definitely there's you know there's room for improvement i mean you look at you know some of their negative plays ball on the ground and so forth but when you when you play the patriots um you know over these last decades, you know, they're going to fundamentally sound, always good tackling team, very matchup conscious.

Speaker 136 I think Josh does a great job schematically, you know, week to week, challenge it, challenging you.

Speaker 136 And I think for young quarterback, you know, you're always able to give him key throws early in games. You see some of them big play action, those big play action gains that they're hitting early.

Speaker 136 I think that's a real tribute to the way they approach the game, and it definitely helps them get going because

Speaker 136 they get out in front. That defense is real.

Speaker 28 Yeah, the defense is real.

Speaker 62 Let's talk about Vrabel, and we just assume that his defense is going to be good with Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 131 How do other coaches view Mike Vrabel?

Speaker 59 Because obviously, he gets fired from Tennessee out of nowhere.

Speaker 86 We're all kind of taken back.

Speaker 49 He goes to Cleveland on a year as like a consultant.

Speaker 22 That's where he's from.

Speaker 43 And then the New England Patriots job opens up, and every New England Patriot fan was like, yup.

Speaker 14 And it sounds like Vrabel was like, yep.

Speaker 77 Because whenever he went into the Hall of Fame up there, he said, there's nothing like this place.

Speaker 15 It is special.

Speaker 70 You need to know that.

Speaker 23 Feels like he's back.

Speaker 46 at home in the right spot. How do you guys view him as a coach?

Speaker 1 That's a good football coach, right?

Speaker 32 That's just kind of how everybody views him.

Speaker 43 Is Is that how you guys talk about him in the coaching world?

Speaker 136 Definitely. I'm just telling

Speaker 136 how I view him. I think he's an excellent coach.
And the things I've always looked for, whether you're competing against another coach as a coordinator, as a head coach,

Speaker 136 the consistency. You know, he definitely has been consistent in the play style that he demands from his football team, both in Tennessee and New England.
You know, it starts in a run game.

Speaker 136 You know, we all want to run the ball good. We all want to stop the run.

Speaker 136 And he's done that in both places. So I think the way, you know, the identity and how the teams build, you know, the personnel is definitely reflecting that.

Speaker 136 So, you know, the personnel department and coaching staff are clearly on the same page. But I think he's...
And he's definitely playing to the climate of the Northeast.

Speaker 136 And I think all those things are important. You look at Drake May.
You know, he is built for New England football. It's, you know, something we always talked about a lot.

Speaker 136 And it's something I truly believe in. You know, when you have Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, you know, long arms, big hands,

Speaker 136 you want your guy to be spinning it better than the other guy come December and January in those big games.

Speaker 16 Yeah, and Drake can run his ass off too.

Speaker 53 He led UNC tar heels in rushing and passing, obviously, I think his sophomore year, whenever he was there, he didn't win the Heisman, but you know, that's because UNC was.

Speaker 1 But he's been special a long time.

Speaker 53 And then obviously on the other side, go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 161 Yeah, coach, what about their opponent tonight? They're playing the Jets, and we got guys like Boston Connor saying that the Patriots are going to win 42-0. I think he actually believes it.

Speaker 161 Like, he's saying that will happen tonight. I guess, what's your outlook on the Jets this year? And obviously, moving forward, forward, they traded some very, very key pieces away at the deadline.

Speaker 161 But what's, I guess, the rest of this season look like for the Jets, you think?

Speaker 136 Well, I think, you know, number one, the Jets are in year one. You know, and I know also New England is too, but I think the Jets, the Jets have more going on.
But I start with their offensive line.

Speaker 136 I do like the way their young guys are playing. And I think it's going to be.

Speaker 136 you know, a good line moving forward, especially starting with those two bookend tackles. So, you know, so they're trying to do it the right way.
Brees Halls, I think he's a dynamic runner.

Speaker 136 So they definitely have something to build off of, too. So, you know, they, you know, I'm not sure if you guys, I don't know who's going to play quarterback tonight.
So you have that going on.

Speaker 136 I think it's a team that's learning how to win. You know, they've won their last two games and obviously the return game was huge last week for them in getting that victory.

Speaker 136 So I just see a team that's still. going through some mechanics and things like you'd like to maybe experience more in the beginning the beginning of the year.

Speaker 136 Obviously, they lost Quentin Williams at the trade deadline. So

Speaker 136 that's definitely a force in the middle of your defense. So just they have a lot going on.

Speaker 136 I made the mistake of talking to Corner, excuse me, Connor, this morning. And so

Speaker 136 I'm feeling the pressure to

Speaker 136 pick New England with the points. I do like New England points.

Speaker 136 But, you know, I want to say,

Speaker 136 we say it every week, division games. That's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 Don't screw this up.

Speaker 136 All right. All right.

Speaker 136 I'm going to take the points with the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 17 Now, if you were to be picking Thursday night football games, and obviously we missed one, you'd be six and three.

Speaker 5 This guy's good.

Speaker 23 75% hit rate is not a bad thing.

Speaker 47 That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 106 And Coach likes the Patriots and the points, but he was accosted this morning by Connor on a phone call.

Speaker 135 Is that how you would describe it there, Coach?

Speaker 11 I would. I was there.

Speaker 136 Brutal. Yeah, just brutal.
I was checking in and make sure we're good to go. And I mean, we talked about the Patriots, I think, probably 90% of the conversation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I made some sense.

Speaker 136 I wouldn't have thought about Pacquiao Pittsburgh. I mean, all I heard about was the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 16 that's been talked about too much.

Speaker 48 You know, that's been talked about too much.

Speaker 43 The Patriots tonight, kicking off week 11.

Speaker 23 I think it's a prime time opportunity for this new Patriots team to say hello, too.

Speaker 59 Like, that's how I'm viewing this.

Speaker 1 Like, legitimately, I think a lot of people, we know it more, I think, personally, because we got Connor.

Speaker 16 Like, I think we, as a show, potentially have talked about it a little bit more nationally i don't think everybody fully understands i i think they see the record and they're like wow that's a good football team then you watch them it's like what you see drake it's like i can't believe this is his second year and he's 23 years old and then vrabel's coaching in between plays like literally in between plays he's coaching a very young team it's like they seemingly have a lot of upside still and they are a great football team well and that's why like the the kind of showing everybody everything will be great is because drake Drake May is the one that does steal all the headlines.

Speaker 1 Naturally, he's the quarterback. But like when you watch the defense play, they punish people.
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 Everybody needs to watch Bob Spallane tonight. You need to watch number 14 on defense.

Speaker 1 He tackles so hard.

Speaker 1 It is the greatest thing every time watching the Patriots. And the greatest thing is watching Drake May.
Let me say that.

Speaker 1 Aside from Drake May, watching Bob Spallane fly around that football field with an all-black visor with his sleeves and just screaming through through holes.

Speaker 1 Not to mention when Milton Williams gets in the backfield and makes a play, Christian Barmore is celebrating before the tackle is made.

Speaker 1 When Christian Barmore gets in the backfield and makes a play, Milton Williams is already celebrating. It's just, it's one of the most fun brands of football.

Speaker 1 If there was a bet out there for the New York Football Jets to finish with total negative yards, I would take it because of how great this defense is.

Speaker 1 Listen to what he's saying, Coach. 40.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 136 This is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 People are watching. Football gods are watching this right now, and there's a chance that all of it happens from what we've seen from the New England Patriots.

Speaker 19 All right, let's talk about some different stuff happening around the end of the day.

Speaker 136 Wait a minute, I want to change my bet. That marketing campaigns make me nervous.
I mean,

Speaker 136 it's still just a football game.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 Take the point.

Speaker 1 I'm no big good teammate here, Connor, but it's still.

Speaker 136 It's one game. It's on a short week.
It's a division game.

Speaker 136 That's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 A lot of points for a division game.

Speaker 136 Yeah, so, and I do. I like everything that's been said about New England, but it's still pro football.
And I think we all get caught up in the feel-good stuff and all the good stories and so forth.

Speaker 136 But it's the ultimate team game. It's still 11-11.
It's so damn hard to win a football game in the National Football League. That will never change.

Speaker 1 I don't believe it.

Speaker 62 I'm told they should win by 12 and a half points, Coach.

Speaker 5 That's what I'm being told.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 136 I picked it.

Speaker 1 I picked it.

Speaker 1 Don't back down.

Speaker 136 No, you win by two touchdowns. You win by two scores in this league.

Speaker 136 You've had a hell of a day. You've had some things go your way, too.

Speaker 136 but it is, it's difficult to win in this league.

Speaker 72 Okay, difficult to win in this league. You have done a good job of winning when picking Thursday night games, if you were to be picking Thursday night games.

Speaker 19 So we're certainly excited about that.

Speaker 91 But to your point, New York Jets are a professional football team.

Speaker 1 There's 11 guys. They got good players.

Speaker 136 Yeah, they have some good young players.

Speaker 1 These guys, best football players you've ever met in your entire life are lined up on the New York Jets.

Speaker 1 Your friend that you know from high school that was really good at football and then he played in college, really good at football.

Speaker 23 Yeah, these guys, all of them, 10 times better than your friend that you saw at football playing for the New York Jets tonight.

Speaker 135 Okay, so if they're able to piece everything together, they can beat anybody.

Speaker 43 And that's probably the messaging and the thought of what they can become over there with Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 24 But I just think tonight is a showcase night for the New England Patriots and who they're going to be for the next 20 years, maybe, which is.

Speaker 1 Gives me chills, man. I mean, I'm legit.
Yeah, but what do we do?

Speaker 33 What do we do?

Speaker 30 I was in Pittsburgh growing up watching this shit. Then I come play for the Colts and this still here in the Colts and it was just always been, seemingly.

Speaker 1 But you have also greatness on the horizon.

Speaker 1 Let's not act like the Colts aren't the one seed and Danny Dimes is not 28 and Jonathan Taylor is not 26 and Quentin Nelson is also not in his 30s or wait, he might be 30 actually.

Speaker 1 Whatever, you get it. The Colts are also in a prime position.
If anything.

Speaker 1 And I hate to do this to the guy, but we need to kind of direct our attention at how shitty the Steelers are looking down the barrel. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now they got a lot of ideas.

Speaker 1 Oh, I can't wait.

Speaker 39 AP Tone has a question for you, actually.

Speaker 52 I don't know why he did that, coach.

Speaker 1 I don't know why. Game day's going to Pittsburgh.
I don't know what it is. What are we doing?

Speaker 1 It's because we're back, baby. That's it.
All right. Look,

Speaker 1 I just spent time in Echo Company, okay, and their nickname's Evil Empire. What's New England called back in the day? The Evil Empire.

Speaker 1 If you need a sign as to whether they're back or not, that's it, motherfucker. And also, great.
Yeah, I know. I know the

Speaker 1 Steelers.

Speaker 1 Steelers and Cole and Broncos and Patriots. Like, we are looking at the old school kind of times in the AFC.
And I don't think the Steelers are going anywhere. I just want to clarify that.

Speaker 1 I just want to shit talk Tony for a second there. It's good part of the game.

Speaker 1 There are a lot of good teams, but there is no, there's legitimately no team primed for the next 20 years better than New England. And I only say 20 years because Andy Reid's 70.

Speaker 1 He might coach till he's 95.

Speaker 97 And Cash Mahomes might play until he's 50.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So then I might eat poop.
But right now, I can say that with confidence.

Speaker 16 Okay, let's move off of the New England Patriots and New York Jets tonight.

Speaker 24 A lot has been said, and obviously it's all great analysis.

Speaker 114 And it needs to be said, especially in sports conversations.

Speaker 14 Let's talk about some other NFL storylines. Go ahead, Tone.

Speaker 104 Yeah, coach, while we're talking about young and talented, we had some unfortunate injuries to young and talented rookies over this last week. Obviously, Travis Hunter of the Jags with a knee injury.

Speaker 104 Not a good situation there. And then Jackson Dart with a concussion with the New York Giants.
How would you handle those situations? Because there's been a lot of talk about it.

Speaker 104 One with Jackson Dart and running the football and not getting down and taking a bunch of hits. And then Travis Hunter, you know, the whole story the whole time has been, can he play both ways?

Speaker 104 What are your thoughts on those two situations?

Speaker 136 Well, I think, you know, number one, they're two separate situations, but in the realm that we're talking about, I think, you know, risk assessment is something that you're thinking about all the time as a head coach.

Speaker 136 You know, how their practice, you know, the integration of, you know, going from a backup player to

Speaker 136 a full-time player, you know, playing both sides of the ball, the reps, the wear and tear. I think GPS has been a

Speaker 136 tremendous tool that's been used. I know we started to use it, you know, back in the 2010,

Speaker 136 2011. So I think that just, you know, being smart and every player is a little different too.
So I think you got to look at all those things because you're talking about two young men that should have

Speaker 136 great careers in the National Football League. And injuries injuries are a big part that

Speaker 136 can set back, especially a quarterback.

Speaker 136 You look at the

Speaker 136 number,

Speaker 136 I saw Steph being viewed, what, five, six times, and never how many games he's played.

Speaker 136 That would be concerning for sure. So, I mean, you risk assess,

Speaker 136 and it happens to

Speaker 136 every quarterback. I mean, quarterback, you know, pay scale.
When you start paying a quarterback, you know, $5 million to $60 million, you need to have a conversation.

Speaker 136 Those are things of, I don't think you don't run your quarterback, but I think you can be more selective when you run them too.

Speaker 136 So I think that's a constant thought process that really probably doesn't, it's not talked about outside the walls of a coaching staff or outside the walls of a GM, head coach, owner

Speaker 136 relationship, but you have to.

Speaker 136 I mean,

Speaker 136 the business side of it is real, but these young men are going to play a long time and you don't want to see massive setbacks when they're just getting started.

Speaker 136 So I think you're always looking at how you can integrate,

Speaker 136 how you can best utilize these guys and let them get going too. Because the thing that I've always been amazed with when you look at a young player,

Speaker 136 he gets ready for his senior year or his last year in college. So all the training goes in and leading up to his senior year.
He has a great senior year.

Speaker 136 So obviously excited about the opportunity and potentially going to the NFL. Then he's got to go train for the draft.
Bowl game.

Speaker 136 Yeah.

Speaker 91 I'm sorry. Senior bowl, also, whatever.

Speaker 136 That whole gauntlet, that whole gauntlet, and then boom, he gets drafted and selected. So then he goes into

Speaker 136 an NFL situation, and now the training's different and so forth. I mean, it's clearly the longest year and a half of their life.
And the toll that it takes, both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Speaker 136 I mean, you have to factor those things in. I think that I've always looked for the jump that players would make from year one to year two.

Speaker 136 A lot of it's just natural because year one is so damn hard transitioning from college to pro football so you know all those things are elements you got you got to be in tune with which everybody is i'm not saying they're not but it's it's it's a grind and when you've got promising young players uh the risk assessment is is is is very important I mean, just to echo your sentiment even more, because I've talked about this a lot, because the rookie wall is a thing that is real that happens about right now in a season because there's no light at the end of the tunnel and we're really far into this thing.

Speaker 16 You talk about the last year at college, they started springball there.

Speaker 22 Okay, we started springball, ball, let alone the winter workouts that are the worst part of it all in college.

Speaker 47 But let's just say spring workouts there.

Speaker 72 Then you got summer leading into training camp.

Speaker 23 Those workouts are impossible.

Speaker 17 Then you have training camp, full training camp.

Speaker 39 Then you have full season.

Speaker 58 Then you have one of those bowl games.

Speaker 131 Then you have to work out for your pro day.

Speaker 16 Okay. So then after your pro day, then you got combine happening in there.

Speaker 25 Then for the workouts, you got to travel around, go meet everybody, hopefully, still work out.

Speaker 24 Then draft happens.

Speaker 86 Then you got rookie mini camp.

Speaker 43 Then you got spring camp or whatever.

Speaker 85 Then you got summer for a couple weeks.

Speaker 19 And then you got training camp, then you have your longest season of your life where there's, you've never played this many games.

Speaker 27 You got 17 games and oh yeah, you're a rookie.

Speaker 22 So a lot of all the preseason games too, you're playing in those as well.

Speaker 47 Three games there, then 17 there.

Speaker 32 And then if your team's good, okay, we got another potential four at the end of that.

Speaker 32 So it's like that rookie year, to your point, if you survive it, I think that offseason, the next one, you can really jump mentally, I think, because you're fresh, but also body gets a new feeling.

Speaker 148 It's the fact that you're thinking about that as a coach, I love to hear that.

Speaker 27 Legitimately, I love to hear that because everybody has to go through it, but it does suck for everybody, I think.

Speaker 136 Yeah, definitely. And frankly, then once they get through all that, I mean, if you just look at the situations that occur, you know, in February, March, and April,

Speaker 136 if you look at the rookies that go through that year, you know, some of those guys, you know, may get in a little trouble, maybe go, you know.

Speaker 136 go to a party or two too much, maybe hang out at Permanentis too long. But, well, I mean, they should.
I mean, you know, after the damn year they've been through.

Speaker 136 So, no, it's a it's a cycle it you know there's a lot of data there that you got to pay attention to it and and so when you when you see young guys getting hurt you know it's just you know it's it's i know it's just something that you're you're always thinking about because you know a head coach to me that the 32 head coaches in the league that you know they get to compete on sundays but i always felt the biggest competition is you know how do you train your team you know how do you schedule your team you know are you having those conversations you know and just being in tune with with each guy and risk assessment of how how you utilize them is definitely part of those conversations.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, you got some pretty deep stuff coming out of that Yinser mouth, and it is wonderful to hear.

Speaker 47 We certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 10 How many years coaching in the NFL were you?

Speaker 136 1993. So, but

Speaker 136 I think coaching to 19 and not in this year. So 32, 32, 33, whatever it takes.
A little Michael Keaton for you.

Speaker 1 Kens are legging.

Speaker 100 Let's talk about a couple more teams.

Speaker 114 Ty has a question for you.

Speaker 109 Yeah, coach, I believe you were at Lambeau for Monday night football.

Speaker 109 And I think going into that game, a lot of people kind of assumed that there was a good chance it was going to be a defensive battle. Obviously, we saw how the game ended.

Speaker 109 Looking at both those teams as a whole, how do you feel about Philly?

Speaker 109 And then for the Packers, a lot of the chatter has been, hey, this team needs to fix the offense and they need to do it right now because they're wasting a potential, you know, generational run from this defense.

Speaker 109 So how do you feel about both those teams? And if you you were the head coach, how would you fix this Packers offense?

Speaker 136 Well, I think the biggest thing is, you know, I thought the game kind of went the way we all anticipated. I mean, it was definitely a defensive struggle.

Speaker 136 You know,

Speaker 136 both defenses made both offenses struggle. And I'll say this about the Packers.

Speaker 136 You know, I've been able to see them play live now four times, three at Lambeau and one over there in Pittsburgh, and have been very, very impressed with them.

Speaker 136 I mean, their defense in all four contests, you know, very consistent.

Speaker 136 I mean, their energy and the level that they play, I think is really bodes well, especially with November, December football in front.

Speaker 136 And, you know, in offenses over the course of the year, I mean, this is the way these things go. And I thought the injury to Jenkins was definitely factored in the second half.

Speaker 136 I mean, when you lose your center, you know, that's usually

Speaker 136 not an easy situation to overcome. They do have really good depth in the offensive line.
So I think they'll move ahead accordingly. But

Speaker 136 that was a hard, hard fought football game. You could see early, I thought the referees really let them play.
You can see it really on the first series.

Speaker 136 So, I mean, the in-line

Speaker 136 combat

Speaker 136 that was going on was, you know, was,

Speaker 136 you know, I have no problem with it. But I just thought they really let them play.
And I think you saw two playoff teams slug it out.

Speaker 136 And, you know, but at the end of the day, it was a three-point game.

Speaker 1 You were saying I got no problem. They weren't calling a lot in there.

Speaker 1 They're playing football.

Speaker 31 That's what you just said.

Speaker 48 I got no problem with it.

Speaker 24 But on that note, abnormal seemingly how loose it was in the trenches.

Speaker 114 Is that what you were just saying right there?

Speaker 136 No, I just thought the post-snap, no, that's, but that's, you know,

Speaker 136 that's really,

Speaker 136 I thought it had definitely some, you know, looked a little bit like a playoff game. You know, there's, there's some things obviously you're always trying to clean up.

Speaker 136 But, you know, I think you, you know, I felt Monday when I walked out of the stadium that I just saw two playoff teams slug it out, you know, and Philadelphia made, you know, a couple more plays more than green bay so i mean i thought the time of possession you know philadelphia was able to to hold the ball a little longer but you know i i thought i i be frankly i just kept waiting for for you know um green bay to put that drive together because you know vic vic does a good job still waiting on it

Speaker 138 you know tie and the two stout we're all still waiting is what ty said we're all still waiting for that drive to get put together they almost had that field ball though yeah very close

Speaker 68 it was it was this close yeah for the first one.

Speaker 136 Oh, you're talking about the one he met. Oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah. Definitely.

Speaker 136 And I'll say this, I don't know what the wind ended up being, but it looked like the wind kicked up there in the second half. So, you know, that's, and that always can be a factor.

Speaker 15 How'd you feel about how that was all handled at the end of that game?

Speaker 110 How'd you feel about that? The 64-yarder.

Speaker 16 Oh, McManus, OG in the game.

Speaker 72 We can steal one.

Speaker 43 The refs aren't stopping us from snapping this.

Speaker 30 Maybe catch a little extra swing, catch the second one as a mulligan, if need be.

Speaker 49 They find out he's a little bit short.

Speaker 9 Great gamesmanship out of McManus in the crew here.

Speaker 114 He ends up going a little bit short.

Speaker 64 LaFleur says, that was the best ball I've seen him hit in weeks.

Speaker 152 He was short.

Speaker 27 We need to get a couple more yards.

Speaker 23 Send the offense back out there.

Speaker 24 Offense, obviously, the Philadelphia Eagles defense, because we know we just saw it too, dude.

Speaker 15 Yeah, we know what you're trying to do.

Speaker 43 You're not going to be able to throw this thing quick out.

Speaker 85 You only got five seconds to handle this whole thing.

Speaker 79 Then they send him back out.

Speaker 85 Massive miss.

Speaker 69 Packers fans say, why did we stay awake for this?

Speaker 74 Why did we stay awake for this?

Speaker 4 That's where Packers fans are right now, Coach.

Speaker 41 I know you're probably surrounded by them up in Green Bay, but Packers fans are not the most optimistic.

Speaker 85 You know, it was a three-point game against Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 71 I think everybody thinks that Philadelphia Eagles are going to be back in the hunt whenever the season ends.

Speaker 23 Three-point loss, to your point, but I don't think that's how Packers fans feel.

Speaker 60 I don't think that's how they feel at all.

Speaker 76 And what do you think that is?

Speaker 23 Do you think that's because fans naturally react to the last thing that they saw?

Speaker 21 Or do you think fans potentially see what maybe isn't on the team for whenever the games truly matter at the end of the year?

Speaker 74 What are your thoughts on that all?

Speaker 136 I think it's a week-to-week

Speaker 136 thing that you're dealing with with fans. And definitely, yeah, they're going to react to the outcome.
But

Speaker 136 I think, once again, it was a three-point game.

Speaker 136 There's definitely plays in the game that could have gone the either way, you know, either way that could have affected that game. So, and that's, and, and that's what playoff football is.

Speaker 136 I mean, 96% of the playoff games I know in the last five years have come down to the last series. So

Speaker 136 I like games like that. Now, you want to win them.

Speaker 136 You know, it's, you know, I know Connor thinks his team's going to win by 40 tonight, but you really benefit from tight games in November, December, because that's what really

Speaker 136 gets you ready for playoff football. I know, and AJ can attest this when we were really on a roll, I would get nervous with the blowout wins.
They're fun. It's an easy ride home.

Speaker 136 You feel better in the morning. The guys are...
Everybody's in there by 6 o'clock working out and everything.

Speaker 136 So there's so much great off the positive energy, but you need tight ball games because that's the game you're going to be in come playoff time. If you want to win a championship,

Speaker 136 you do want the experience of those tight games. So there is value for the Packers to come up and play that type of game.
I really believe that. And I do.

Speaker 136 I thought they were not as in sync in the second half with the injury. And I could be wrong, but

Speaker 136 I think they had more first downs in Philadelphia. I know

Speaker 136 Philly was able to keep the ball the third downs and things like that. So you can cut through that game as much as you want.

Speaker 136 And you could find one or two plays that could have changed the outcome of that game, clearly. I mean, the fumble

Speaker 136 took points off the board. The Green Base fumble with love.
So, I mean,

Speaker 136 and that's what those games come down to.

Speaker 136 But yeah, post-snap now, they let them play. They definitely let them play.
And I always hope that it's that way when you play

Speaker 136 in the postseason. So there's a lot of value to play in those kind of games.

Speaker 16 Yeah, the Colts get a huge win this weekend in Germany over the Falcons.

Speaker 124 And I saw some people saying, like, it's the Falcons, it's the Falcons.

Speaker 20 Like, I don't care.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 48 Falcons played great. That was a huge win.

Speaker 72 That was a huge win for the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 112 We needed that after the Pittsburgh Steeler game.

Speaker 32 But you talk about those close games.

Speaker 16 It was like fun to watch this team scrap.

Speaker 43 Fun to watch this team get into the overtime and make big plays whenever they need it, like that ball right there from Danny Dimes.

Speaker 72 I don't mind, you know, watching a 9:30 game whenever your team's winning.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was a great morning. Yeah.

Speaker 52 God, it set up a perfect NFL Sunday.

Speaker 1 I mean, you just kind of, how are we doing?

Speaker 76 Great. We just.

Speaker 1 yeah, we're good. We're done.
We won.

Speaker 136 Yeah, but your point there, Pat, is they responded from the week before. So, I mean,

Speaker 136 those are the things that create a lot of value.

Speaker 136 And I think you always talk about stacking success and the confidence that you're trying to build, you know, particularly November, December, into the playoffs.

Speaker 136 That's a great win for Indianapolis because, yeah, they had a hard day, you know, in the last time they were on the field, and then

Speaker 136 they respond. And I think the resilience and the response that you're going going to have to have in just the four quarters of a playoff game, this is all training that

Speaker 136 pays forward, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 I couldn't agree with you more.

Speaker 119 Number one team in the AFC.

Speaker 16 Now, you talked about value to your team as you go forward.

Speaker 121 Let's talk about the most valuable, shall we?

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, coach, and just to clarify, I don't care if we win 3-0 or 30-0.
I just want everybody to not get hurt, kind of stay healthy and keep this train rolling.

Speaker 1 Strictly just need to get that eight to a nine in the win column. But looking at the MVPs, there are some big names on here.

Speaker 1 Um, Drake, may we've talked about already, but Stafford, Jonathan Taylor, Mahomes, and Allen still bringing it. Darnold up there, Jared Goff seems to be a little too low just looking at that list.

Speaker 1 But what do you think about the MVP odds? And we actually looked into something uh before the show, too, just about MVPs. The last MVP, yeah, here it is.
MVPs won the Super Bowl since 2000.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes is the only one, so it's not as if you win the MVP, you just automatically win the Super Bowl. But what do you think about the MVP list this year so far?

Speaker 136 I like it.

Speaker 136 Just if you don't know if you could put the list back up, but I thought Jared Goff was low, and I think he's been low for the last three years. I think this guy's been playing at an incredible level.

Speaker 136 And I think last week's game against Washington speaks volumes. I mean, because now you're going to

Speaker 136 give him a 250-yard performance in a run game and add his plate to it. So I think he's playing an extremely high level.

Speaker 136 I think clearly, and he's done it now. And, you know, I think we just kind of take, I don't know if we're taking him for granted.
I don't think he gets enough love. And I'd definitely have him hire.

Speaker 136 I love Drake May that's up there.

Speaker 136 And it looks like you're in charge of

Speaker 136 the

Speaker 1 odds.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 136 I think it's cool that he's up there and speaks volumes kind of year he's having. And

Speaker 136 I think it's already been said. And there's definitely room for improvement with those guys too.
So that is exciting for New England and Drake May.

Speaker 136 But I think Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff, clearly,

Speaker 136 those guys with Drake have established themselves as a quarterback.

Speaker 136 But the guy I want to throw in, and AJ could talk on Adrian Peterson.

Speaker 136 I mean, to see a running back up there is refreshing because when you have a season like Jonathan Taylor is having, and I always go back when, like...

Speaker 136 Grinkowski, when's the first time you remember watching Robin

Speaker 136 Grinkowski play?

Speaker 136 I've been to two College football games in the last 35 years. And I went to the

Speaker 136 Iowa, Wisconsin football game down there in Madison in 2019 and was excited to see him play. He was having a Heisman type season and so forth.

Speaker 136 And it was a tight, it was just how you think a Iowa, Wisconsin game would go.

Speaker 136 It was tough,

Speaker 136 a lot of running and so forth. And I remember after the game and

Speaker 136 Taylor is like, man, boy, what a consistent, tough, hard-nosed runner.

Speaker 136 And I think he carried it about 30 times, but I would have never thought he went for 250 or 260 that day because he just, so my point is, he's that good.

Speaker 136 I mean, when great players just kind of do, they play at that level, you know, all the time. And I can't, I don't even recall what year Jonathan's in.

Speaker 136 It was he, what, year five or six or seven now, but

Speaker 136 he's six. I mean, he's been playing this home.
When he's healthy,

Speaker 136 I mean, he is a dynamic player because, I mean, he just does it, play in and play out, and then he also can hit that home run. So I think he's definitely having an NBC.

Speaker 136 It kind of reminds me of Adrian Peterson when he was really rolling for the Vikings.

Speaker 91 It's his fifth season for Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 20 I'm sorry. Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 161 No, sorry, Coach. I wanted to reiterate.
Yeah, the Adrian Peterson situation.

Speaker 161 I was lucky enough, I guess, lucky enough to play against Adrian twice a year for, I don't know, seven, eight years in a row when I was in Green Bay.

Speaker 161 But it's true, like when a dude is rolling like these guys are, like Adrian was forever and like Jonathan Taylor has been, like, I don't know, all week you're preparing for it, you're preparing for it.

Speaker 161 And then if you go there, especially on the road, and this dude, like, it just it almost sometimes felt inevitable like all right we got to keep boxing him keep boxing him in and then when they break one or two of them it's like all right the dude runs for 240 on you and you're screwed and seems that these guys do it week after week and it's just so so tough i think for defenses to consistently stop guys that are this good it's a head game too right huge head game i assume yeah

Speaker 161 I mean, think of the things you'd run off of it, Coach. Like, when you have a running back like that that's rolling, like, how does that open up your offense?

Speaker 136 It adds a second to your play action protection game. That's what it does.
I mean, because, you you know, those safeties got to be at the line of scrimmage. And, you know,

Speaker 1 you got to suck them up, too. You got to suck them up, don't you? Suck them up good, coach.
Suck them up.

Speaker 76 Suck them up with that play action.

Speaker 47 That's what we're trying to do, coach.

Speaker 1 We're trying to suck them all up everywhere.

Speaker 152 Right here, sucking them up right here.

Speaker 76 And then, boom, Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 Linebackers, where are you?

Speaker 105 Within two yards of line of scrimmage?

Speaker 31 Well, it's Tyler Warren's right behind you.

Speaker 1 Got the D.

Speaker 70 How you doing? Keep it moving.

Speaker 42 We are weaponizing it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we got the D.

Speaker 1 Once you suck him up, you got the D and it's blouses.

Speaker 139 Yeah, you're right, 100% right.

Speaker 41 I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 62 And we, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 4 And that's what Jonathan Taylor adds.

Speaker 70 And I'll tell you what, we're going to have to pay him again. We don't need him with a hoodie on at the beginning of training camp.

Speaker 58 No.

Speaker 6 Okay, we need to pay this man his money, and we need to continue to enjoy the Jonathan Taylor ride.

Speaker 23 Now, you mentioned Jared Goff there about how much respect you have for him.

Speaker 59 A lot of people thought maybe the Lions would see a little bit of a regression on the offensive side because Ben Johnson, the bell of the ball, offensive genius, leaves Detroit and goes to Chicago.

Speaker 59 Tone has a question for you.

Speaker 104 Yeah, I do, Coach. That's kind of been a talking point this week that Dan Campbell took over the play calling for offensive coordinator John Morton.

Speaker 104 Obviously, you've been a play caller head coach in the NFL for a long, long time.

Speaker 104 How do you feel about that situation as a whole when the head coach takes over the play calling for the offensive coordinator and how does that work out?

Speaker 136 I mean,

Speaker 136 obviously, there's reasonings from within the staff that they talk through. And then when you have the result that you have,

Speaker 136 I mean,

Speaker 136 you can't argue with it.

Speaker 136 But I think

Speaker 136 number one,

Speaker 136 it's never easy to change like that, particularly at that point in the season.

Speaker 136 I've experienced it once myself. So that part's tough.

Speaker 136 But also, you can see the potential benefit on the other side of it because Washington not knowing

Speaker 136 that it was going to happen definitely you know helps helps Detroit in that particular instance but uh you know Dan's an outstanding football coach I love the way his teams play obviously saw something that he felt like he needed to do got got the results and uh but you know most importantly that connection between play call and quarterback is is for me is always the top of the list and and i think they clearly they clearly have that because uh you know i i thought they looked dominant in that game against washington what did i watch foxy where i saw dane campbell like drop a tear for Jared Goff?

Speaker 96 What was that?

Speaker 145 There was an interview where they talked to both of them and Jared Goff talked about what Dane Campbell meant to him and what Dane Campbell talked about what Jared Goff meant to him.

Speaker 38 Do you remember what I'm talking about?

Speaker 146 I don't remember what you're talking about, but I will say this year more so than ever, MCDC has given Jared Goff so much credit on what he does at the line of scrimmage with audibles and reading protections and all those things.

Speaker 146 MCDC has made it a point.

Speaker 78 Pretty much every single game, he's given Jared Goff so much credit for how good he is getting the guys right at the line of scrimmage i think it was quarterback on netflix jared goff was being followed and they had a sit-down with dan campbell and when the trade happened like dan wanted to talk to him and tell him like hey this isn't a this is a you're my guy like told him that basically from the beginning and i don't know if one of them got emotional i remember i remember goff getting emotional for sure yes like they it was like a real you could tell it was like a real connection because both of them feel like they probably careers we we did this

Speaker 21 in a city yeah and then they cry after first in a city that doesn't really have that a a lot.

Speaker 23 Like, that's a special connection, a special bond.

Speaker 43 I didn't even think about that whenever it came to him calling plays versus maybe somebody else.

Speaker 146 And you got to keep in mind, in year one, I mean, they started out 0-10. They were 3-13-1.
And I'll tell you what, Jared Goff was not good. Everyone thought he was a bridge quarterback.

Speaker 146 Everyone thought he was going to be out of there. We're going to draft someone.
And MCDC stuck with him. And I know that means the world to him.

Speaker 146 And now, like, he did what Matthew Stafford can never do in 12 years in Detroit. He's winning us playoff games, which is just crazy.

Speaker 1 And what's the chant in Detroit? It's literally at any sporting event you go to in Michigan, Jared Goff, Jared Goff, Jared Goff.

Speaker 76 And remember, he got kicked out of L.A.

Speaker 78 basically in that trade that happened in a hotel in Mexico.

Speaker 24 That is just, it's a crazy thing to think about.

Speaker 23 And you talk about their records the first year MCDC was there.

Speaker 98 Let's go back to a record, a good one.

Speaker 17 Coach McCarthy would be 6-3, okay, if he was to be picking Thursday night football games.

Speaker 46 He has picked the Patriots minus 12 and a half, even though, coach, for a division game,

Speaker 136 well,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's a lot of points. That's a lot of points.
That's a lot of points.

Speaker 136 Okay, yeah, that's a lot of points. No, I made the pick.

Speaker 136 I'll stick to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and on that note, you're sticking to it.

Speaker 46 58% of the public bets are on the Patriots minus 12 and a half.

Speaker 96 And in our YouTube chat, Bill ran one.

Speaker 16 Bill's wearing a toboggan and the whole thing today.

Speaker 1 He looks very interesting.

Speaker 34 He put a poll in the chat.

Speaker 20 Who you got tonight?

Speaker 43 Patriots minus 12 and a half.

Speaker 1 70% of the voters.

Speaker 46 So 58% of the public, 70% of the YouTube chat poll.

Speaker 21 Mike McCarthy, Boston Connor saying 42, nothing maybe.

Speaker 135 All right, coach, good luck tonight.

Speaker 100 Hopefully that becomes a seven and three.

Speaker 43 And we appreciate the hell out of you taking time out of your life to chat with us.

Speaker 136 I just want, guys, quick question.

Speaker 136 What is the numbers on

Speaker 136 the team with the points on Thursday Night Football?

Speaker 136 The team that gets the points. Did the team with the points win, what, 80, 90% of the games?

Speaker 1 It's a lot lot of points.

Speaker 1 Not last week.

Speaker 104 Early in the season, primetime games were being won by the

Speaker 1 underdogs.

Speaker 104 And it's flipped as of late, but I think it's right around 50% right now as far as dogs and favorites.

Speaker 1 Yeah, last week was a huge lopsided line. Raiders, Broncos, and the Raiders did end up covering.

Speaker 1 But, Coach, I mean, you put your head down on that pillow tonight and tell me that you're okay with taking the Jets plus 1200.

Speaker 31 Well, that's what I think the YouTube chat poll is.

Speaker 3 I think that's what the YouTube chat poll is.

Speaker 1 You can either pick the Patriots with everything we've said for the last month, or you can take the Jets right here.

Speaker 23 Nobody, I mean, 30% of the people are good for them.

Speaker 63 Those are the sharps that feel.

Speaker 4 But from us, Coach Carthy, we're going to wrap up here on ESPN and continue on digital.

Speaker 53 You got anything to say?

Speaker 18 You got the countdown clock right in front of you.

Speaker 64 Final message for the TV crowd?

Speaker 1 The TV crowd? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 115 Hey, Jay, you did a great job today. I thought you'd give me some more questions.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Coach. Thank you.
All right.

Speaker 136 Have fun.

Speaker 1 But I'm not going this time.

Speaker 136 Transfer over.

Speaker 1 We're already over.

Speaker 1 We're still live.

Speaker 1 We're still live. We're still live.
Yeah.

Speaker 136 We're still alive. I didn't know what the hell was going on last week.
I was like, what in the hell is he talking about?

Speaker 1 This week, you definitely just. You do.

Speaker 136 I was like, am I supposed to play something here?

Speaker 136 You totally screwed me up last week.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 All right. Expensive football.
All right. We appreciate the hot.

Speaker 1 Super bolt shape. Staying in my lane.
Staying in my lane.

Speaker 136 Because I can see you're doing a hell of a job with those TV contracts. I ain't going to bring that up.

Speaker 1 I'm trying, man.

Speaker 1 I would like to let you know. Yeah, you and your suit friends.

Speaker 1 I would like to let you know.

Speaker 136 I got to get out of here.

Speaker 142 Coach would be proud to know that I have, like ASUT, sent some emails to both parties saying that ball

Speaker 1 is needed.

Speaker 1 More ball, good ball.

Speaker 68 Two parties that are actually involved in it.

Speaker 99 Not a website.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 102 Let's remember.

Speaker 1 Come on now. Ball.
Let's go.

Speaker 109 Push the news on that today.

Speaker 1 Ball. Yeah, it's ABC.

Speaker 120 ABC is the holdup.

Speaker 1 Apparently.

Speaker 107 Really?

Speaker 23 That would be a crazy turn of events, certainly with how the conversation has been going.

Speaker 1 But on that note,

Speaker 82 I think it's just a couple people people that just need to,

Speaker 1 we just need you to. Yeah, it basically said, get comfy.
That's, we just need you to get comfy.

Speaker 31 Yeah, we, we, hey, ball for a good ball.

Speaker 1 For a good ball, you know, for a good ball. Please.
Please. And on that,

Speaker 1 let's take a break. Yeah.

Speaker 56 On the other side, AJ Hawk and I will make our official pitch.

Speaker 101 We'll wrap up all the sports stories from around the sports universe.

Speaker 23 We will celebrate the fact that, oh,

Speaker 48 I just saw this for the first time.

Speaker 1 Like that.

Speaker 4 AJ, it's not because I beat you, but I am certainly, I'm going to pause the side of things, heading into a...

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 120 Bay weekend.

Speaker 115 You're seeing the field.

Speaker 1 Did you take the Bucs? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Good call, Oswald.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 138 What was I thinking?

Speaker 123 I think you got a good chance of...

Speaker 36 You know me,

Speaker 142 when I believe in a team,

Speaker 1 boy, I believe in them. Remember, I lost.

Speaker 96 Hundreds of thousands maybe on that Chiefs team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You remember? That's for sure, brother.

Speaker 19 That was a lot of fun, AJ.

Speaker 62 You remember those days when the Chiefs were winning all those games, but nowhere near by enough points?

Speaker 93 Do you remember that?

Speaker 115 Yep, that makes it a little bit tougher now.

Speaker 161 That messes me up sometimes making picks these days.

Speaker 64 Yeah, I rode with that Chiefs team because the Chiefs are still the Chiefs.

Speaker 93 And then I'd have to walk into the program on Monday and go, they won.

Speaker 1 They still the Chiefs.

Speaker 65 But boy, it feels like this sports book knows exactly what the number is supposed to be.

Speaker 138 So you don't win with the Chiefs.

Speaker 68 That's what it became because they weren't blowing teams teams out, but they were winning.

Speaker 143 And then lo and behold, when they were able to win those close games, they would inevitably win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 86 Because to Mike McCarthy's point, not every game can be a blowout, even if you're a great team.

Speaker 47 So like when your team wins, you should be happy. Like when the Colts beat the Falcons this past weekend, there were so many people that were like, it's the Falcons.

Speaker 101 It's like, we're in fucking Germany.

Speaker 109 International game.

Speaker 1 McQuaid was there. Yeah.

Speaker 68 A lot of pressure. Any more stats coming out of Germany for that game with Jonathan Taylor running for that many yards?

Speaker 112 Has that been talked about in the history of Europe, especially in the football sphere?

Speaker 109 A big thing. They are saying it, you know, lads, this is the greatest performance in the stadium since Jesse Owens won the gold medal in the Olympics in 1933.

Speaker 109 You go and you look at everything, lads, they're saying this might go down as the most important running.

Speaker 109 in the history of the stadium. That's not what McQuaid is saying.
That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 109 There's just a lot of lads around Berlin, you know, and in different European countries who are saying we haven't seen anything like that since. Long time.
Long time.

Speaker 109 Since Jesse Owens was running on this very hallowed field. And, you know, Jonathan Taylor, lads,

Speaker 109 reached actually a higher top speed than Jesse Owens did on his 100-meter dash victory and whatever other medal slides.

Speaker 1 In full pads?

Speaker 109 In full pads, lads, yeah. And I believe I want to say that his spikes were actually very similar, if not the exact same spikes that Jesse Owens ran when he won the Elite.

Speaker 1 I understand.

Speaker 109 It doesn't make any sense because he was basically wearing like, you know, just pieces of leather with like little golf tees on the bottom of them, lads. But, you know, the

Speaker 109 cleat technology, actually, I did do a little bit of a deep dive in this. Cleat technology actually has not come that far since those 1933 Olympic Games, lads.

Speaker 109 So it's unbelievable to think that basically Jonathan Taylor, he walked into the stadium, lads. And I...
I haven't confirmed this. I will look into it.
I will go back to Berlin this week.

Speaker 109 I'm obviously in Madrid this weekend for, you know, Commanders, dolphins. I mean, I am the internet.
Yeah, thank you. I am the international man of mystery.
A la Austin Powers.

Speaker 109 But I will go back over there. Yeah.
And I will see. I'm not, there was a little display case right when you walk in the stadium.
These are Jesse Owens cleats. These are unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Rumor has it. No way.
Rumor has it.

Speaker 109 Shane Steichen walked in.

Speaker 1 Smashed the display case.

Speaker 109 Sorry, Dale. That was not planned, obviously.
Sorry, lads. Smashed the display case.
Took him right down.

Speaker 3 He said, JT,

Speaker 109 got a new pair of cleats for you today. And JT didn't even need to say anything.
Didn't even say, like, no, I like my cleats, Lyle.

Speaker 109 I mean, I'm rushing for three touchdowns a game, you know, 200 plus yards a game. He knew exactly what needed to be done.
Took him, laced him up, and we saw what happened.

Speaker 28 I didn't see those on the field.

Speaker 109 Yeah, you'd have to maybe go back and look at the tape again, you know, because obviously, you know, we have these 8K images, you know, things get enhanced.

Speaker 109 But if you're watching it on like a, you know, a potato or like a 720, 480.

Speaker 79 Here we have like like 1020 or 1080

Speaker 1 yeah you can see him yep you can see him right there that's them mcquaid no i'm pretty i'm pretty sure that you're saying this is the best running in this stadium you said people were saying that no not you

Speaker 109 i didn't say that i heard that from a lot of people from around you know the surrounding area in the lower bowl uh i believe they actually did paint the cleats blue before the games lads because obviously they didn't they didn't look like that you know back then

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 76 We're going to have to check that.

Speaker 63 But I do appreciate the fact that that's some of the greatest running in the history of Germany.

Speaker 104 I mean, that dude went crazy international is it true that mcquaid is singing the national anthem in spanish in spain is that i saw that on the internet too that would be i would

Speaker 1 okay would we be surprised no no no not at all no that's kind of the way it looks relieved

Speaker 122 i just saw myself walk in tv in the morning they're doing a pre-game routine on the tv they have a coffee it's nice kenzie probably you know I'm telling her, we're international.

Speaker 23 This is Spain.

Speaker 143 Get over there someday.

Speaker 17 And then McQuaid just pops up and he goes,

Speaker 1 sorry, lads. And then just starts boating up.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 141 Kills it.

Speaker 86 That'd be a great Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 If that's not the plan it needs to be,

Speaker 1 learn it.

Speaker 109 Cordell knows, though. He understands.

Speaker 10 You think they've responded to the kickoff conversation that happened on Veterans Day?

Speaker 115 That's a good question. I do wonder if they take that as like, can they?

Speaker 1 Did we reach out for comment?

Speaker 130 We have not reached out for comment, but we do know that they heard it.

Speaker 106 Yeah, they definitely heard it.

Speaker 1 They definitely heard it.

Speaker 122 thank you for sticking up i believe was a thing it's like yeah hey we had to save the play mr president

Speaker 1 are they even allowed to do that i thought he was going to potentially get cash patel to look into the nfl are you allowed to change the game still time are you allowed to do that that fundamentally changed the game the ball's in the air he said nobody's moving

Speaker 115 That's an interesting point, I guess, about it. Yeah.
If the ball's in the air, there's always people moving, except for that time.

Speaker 18 Not that the play has started.

Speaker 134 The ball's in the air.

Speaker 100 I'm seeing it. Nobody's.

Speaker 62 Is this a live play?

Speaker 106 What is this?

Speaker 62 Is it football?

Speaker 114 Just him, every time he watches it, probably just another thing he notices.

Speaker 1 And I did want to tell him, and I did, that, hey, none of us are saying, yeah, this is

Speaker 1 better than the.

Speaker 120 Yeah, better than not having it. It's better than not having it.

Speaker 47 Yes, this is supposed to save the play.

Speaker 1 This is saving, you know, a lot of special teams

Speaker 95 importance to the game.

Speaker 1 And I, former punter and kickoff guy, and jobs.

Speaker 76 Yeah, we would like to keep that in there.

Speaker 24 But they were saying they were gonna, what's the data?

Speaker 47 They're still running into each other, he's saying, Yeah,

Speaker 1 he did. They did.

Speaker 1 Oh, what a moment. Yeah, I would love to be a fly on the wall of wherever Josh Harris was when he just doubled down on the not commanders.
Oh,

Speaker 1 when he was just there, two days before in Josh Harris's suite.

Speaker 33 I'm not even going to tell you what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 I said at one point.

Speaker 115 What was that going to be?

Speaker 63 What was that gonna be who knows could go any different way uh-huh yeah shout out to the vets oh yeah shout out yep absolutely that was cool that we got to do all that so cool yeah and i wonder if the va gets a little bit of an uptake hopefully i hope so hopefully

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Speaker 1 Football!

Speaker 104 Today is magical.

Speaker 59 That's AJ Hawk right there.

Speaker 31 Wow, AJ.

Speaker 161 Hey, I got a little delay. I tried to start saying football a split second earlier.
Am I on time or am I behind everybody?

Speaker 121 I think this one was good.

Speaker 85 So whenever I'm at a place on Friday, I try to go right before everybody as well.

Speaker 87 I don't know how it sounds when I go. Yep.

Speaker 1 Same thing. It comes through right on time.

Speaker 31 Right on time.

Speaker 49 Okay, so it is like a little bit of a beat, though, AJ.

Speaker 48 It is hard to kind of guess, isn't it?

Speaker 161 Oh, yeah, because you don't know. You think you're right on time with everybody else, but you're like a second behind if you you wait.

Speaker 123 So yeah, I just got to jump it a little bit.

Speaker 50 Yeah, you got to feel it.

Speaker 49 I think you got to feel when you got to get in there.

Speaker 130 And I want to let you know, I think you did a great job.

Speaker 1 Hey, boy, thank you.

Speaker 15 Because I've been in your position on Fridays, you know, and I know what you're going through.

Speaker 48 It is always like,

Speaker 24 and then if you miss it, it's like, missed it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're gone. Now it's an echo.
Football. A good thing that helps us with that, too, is watching you on the big board when we're all about to say it.
Like for Hawker, you should see

Speaker 1 when it's coming in just where we're at as far as about to say it.

Speaker 46 Anyways, on all the football updates, college football playoff committees got a lot of them.

Speaker 19 Mac Rhodes, Baylor AD, who is the chair of the College Football Playoff Committee, steps down this morning amidst an investigation happening at Baylor.

Speaker 50 We don't know the exacts of all of it.

Speaker 27 Outkick reported an incident with a tight end and then a coach with the athletic director.

Speaker 69 He's also the chair, obviously, of the CFP committee.

Speaker 135 Your thoughts on this, AJ, as we've already had two two CFP brackets released.

Speaker 47 They've already started to meet.

Speaker 11 He was the one that was the mouthpiece for the entire group that Rhys Davis spoke to on those Tuesday night shows.

Speaker 72 They have a new chair.

Speaker 18 He's the Arkansas AD, Mr.

Speaker 46 Hunter Yuricek.

Speaker 49 He was already on the committee.

Speaker 16 promoting him to be the new chair. There's a subcommittee within the College Football Playoff Committee that'll vote on if he should be leading the entire committee.

Speaker 1 And I assume he will join that subcommittee that is the leadership committee of the college football playoff committee because we need another committee to be making decisions even though we're in a room to make a fucking decision on that note we're appreciative of their process we understand what they have going on and then the ad mark harlan from utah who has been in the cfp committee in the past will join or has been nominated once again right subcommittee

Speaker 43 of the cfp committee has to vote on it for every everybody.

Speaker 70 But he's been there before and they're nominating him to join it back.

Speaker 24 He's a Big 12 AD.

Speaker 30 They lose a Big 12 AD and Baylor, eye for an eye is what Heather Denich said.

Speaker 98 AJ, I just said a lot there to kind of catch everybody up on what is happening.

Speaker 43 Your thoughts on this happening middle of season, late season here with so much implications on the line.

Speaker 161 Yeah, it is a bit unique, I guess, for the head of the whole situation to step down right now. And all I know is what I've read from the outkick stuff and what you guys have talked about.
What are

Speaker 161 wild allegations, I guess, if true, whatever is going on with the whole situation on the sideline. But this shouldn't change.

Speaker 161 Like the votes, the other people there, I would assume, aren't super swayed by Mr. Mac Rhodes, are they?

Speaker 161 Unless this guy was some David Koresh type guy to get people to really follow him, what are we supposed to do?

Speaker 1 Taylor can try.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think of that. I didn't mean to do that.

Speaker 161 I didn't mean to do that, but it does work. It does work.

Speaker 119 I don't know if he's a Davidian leader or not in the CFP committee room or which committee potentially is the closer follower of his, but he is the mouthpiece of it.

Speaker 48 So I think there is obviously an expectation for him to at least have to hear every argument, if I had to guess, because he's going to be the one that's going to be speaking.

Speaker 19 So hiring from within the committee to be the new chair, I think was the only really logical move.

Speaker 49 Bringing a guy that's already been in there back, is that good news or bad news in your eyes?

Speaker 6 And then how do you think BYU feels?

Speaker 126 Pull hold the phone here.

Speaker 1 We got Utah back in this thing.

Speaker 86 I thought we had him out. I thought we had him out of here.

Speaker 161 I just wonder, is the new guy that steps in, in, are they going to still do the hats? Or was that a Mac Rhodes situation? Are we not going to hang them?

Speaker 34 They definitely should still hang the hat, but the new hat that comes in needs to be maybe

Speaker 90 a big splash hat.

Speaker 114 Because that hat gone.

Speaker 11 That hat was chair hat that first half.

Speaker 1 So they have an open hat. That's Antonio, okay.
They have an open arm on a hat rock.

Speaker 114 Is that him?

Speaker 1 I think that's him. Side profile might be.

Speaker 109 That's a flashy outfit.

Speaker 1 I was going to say compared to what everybody else is wearing. He's got a lot of pizza.

Speaker 161 That's Mark D'Antonio there.

Speaker 50 He doesn't like the yellow.

Speaker 21 Allegedly, Vietnam kick article.

Speaker 61 He did not like the yellow long sleeves, but he loves that shirt.

Speaker 106 Is that him?

Speaker 75 Could we go back to the beginning?

Speaker 138 That's what. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Is that him?

Speaker 120 Looks like him side profile.

Speaker 161 It's a football player in the back of that jacket.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd say.

Speaker 109 That might be him.

Speaker 1 Guys got mocked. That shirt is so sick.

Speaker 94 Listen, whenever you're the one one speaking for the group, you put your hat on the rack first and you dress like this, is what he said whenever they started meeting.

Speaker 83 And I can't blame him for that, but I think there's a lot of other stuff going on potentially in his life that people are certainly going to be looking into.

Speaker 27 And good luck out there, Bub.

Speaker 46 And to the new people that are a part of the committee and in new positions there, good luck to you guys as well.

Speaker 6 I cannot wait to see how you do.

Speaker 60 Maybe a fresh voice in a room on the season is a good thing, AJ.

Speaker 161 Yeah, of course it is. It's got to be a good thing.
And the people that are being promoted from within,

Speaker 161 they know the process. They know how it works.
You don't have to sit there and relearn and re-teach them how the things go.

Speaker 36 Why couldn't we nominate Tone Diggs to be a part of it?

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 161 I mean, we could nominate him. Let's nominate him now.

Speaker 96 Who's stopping us from nominating? We'd like to nominate A.P.

Speaker 69 Tone, who does not have an AP vote in college football, only in NFL football, but he is a two-time, two-time college football author.

Speaker 24 We'd like to nominate this man, A.P.

Speaker 140 Tone, for the open chair.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 47 Yeah, we'll nominate him for the chair of the entire thing.

Speaker 6 But if not that, a seat in the CFP committee.

Speaker 94 All in favor say aye.

Speaker 1 Aye. Aye.

Speaker 13 Opposed?

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Tony.

Speaker 66 Who said that?

Speaker 161 You can't accept the nomination and vote against yourself.

Speaker 33 What are you doing right now?

Speaker 104 I solemnly swear to represent the CFP.

Speaker 109 What's the left hand?

Speaker 1 Well, normally

Speaker 1 normally right hand, I would put on the college football ball or something like that.

Speaker 1 I think that is what I'm saying.

Speaker 146 Your college football Bible. Your Bible that you wrote after they all put their hair.

Speaker 3 Oh, shit.

Speaker 98 I think that is what they do, though.

Speaker 1 Right? I solemnly swear to report. I'm going to bring your heart because it's the same thing.
Yeah, that's what I did. Yeah, college football.

Speaker 104 I solemnly swear to represent the CFP committee with the best of my ability.

Speaker 104 No biases, only stats, facts, and watching good old all-22 tape to come up with the best 12 teams we could possibly come up with.

Speaker 122 Yeah, I don't know if it's going to work, but that was a good pick.

Speaker 1 That was a good pick.

Speaker 72 I'd also like to nominate Nick Saban

Speaker 39 just because everybody's nominating him for all these jobs.

Speaker 1 Step below tone.

Speaker 114 That's our second.

Speaker 21 Yeah, that's our second nomination.

Speaker 48 I would also like Desmond Howard in there just because I think he would mix it up.

Speaker 37 Just looking at the hats, looking at the hats in the thing, it would be great to get Des in there.

Speaker 10 I would love for Desmond Howard to be in that room.

Speaker 19 If not, Des, obviously, Reese, who does the interview, I think he'd be a good representation.

Speaker 75 Basically, anybody on the show that I'm a part of, but me,

Speaker 1 I think is is probably good people to put in there.

Speaker 99 Mostly because,

Speaker 119 would you want to be there?

Speaker 119 No way.

Speaker 72 And now these two names are like the loudest, the two new spots.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 11 Hey, Hunter Yuracek out of Arkansas. He's taking over.

Speaker 97 This is the guy.

Speaker 1 Okay. And then Mark Harlan out of Utah.

Speaker 16 He's in there too. Do we know who any? No.

Speaker 62 So whenever you get it wrong, the only two people you're going to associate, go out of Utah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 46 You know, I don't know if it's the best thing to be a part of.

Speaker 47 Just my experience with college football, you're going to piss off so many people.

Speaker 22 And they're very passionate.

Speaker 86 And I don't know if you're ever going to get it right, AJ.

Speaker 161 I don't know if you're ever.

Speaker 161 If you're a retired coach, I can see, like I saw my old DC, Mark D'Antonio, he's on the committee. For him, he's retired from football.
He still follows ball.

Speaker 161 I would imagine that he keeps him involved. It's probably good for someone like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I bet, but you're going to get the backlash is immediately. He doesn't care.
He's not here. He doesn't hear it.

Speaker 161 He doesn't care. I would imagine that.

Speaker 104 BA last week also said he was friends with a coach, I can't remember who it was, on the committee.

Speaker 62 And he was like, they make you watch more tape in these meetings than I have ever watched, even as as a coach i was like oh that is great to hear okay so you're forced to watch this tape basically who runs it too who runs the tape too you can't just put film on it just sit there and look at it well that's the thing that's why mac rhodes got that shirt on yeah the chairs up there in the front trying to steal everybody's you know attention make sure they're not sleeping you know okay fourth quarter here oh state buckeyes they're up 42 and then the the projector hits off his yeah shirt and it's a there's a glimmer of shine that captivates everybody's eyes you know that is he's the one doing doing the show.

Speaker 114 He's the one doing the show, which is why, Hunter, Yurich, good luck in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good luck. And that's why they should split up those kind of responsibilities instead of having that guy run the tape and be the chair.

Speaker 1 I do think that's where bringing in the other guy to walk him through the tape to just at least show him what we're looking for.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have to be on the committee, but at least he's maybe teacher of the tape.

Speaker 18 Here's some other stuff that we need to be looking at.

Speaker 101 And then he's highlighting things

Speaker 1 from another game.

Speaker 63 Let's go to another situation.

Speaker 1 Those types of things. Yeah, exactly.
Premier player.

Speaker 110 So then we know at least what they're watching.

Speaker 1 Well, that's.

Speaker 46 An individual time of Stanford Steve needs to be had, too.

Speaker 110 So make sure he's reaching them.

Speaker 109 A couple cocktails before they go in, maybe, just because, you know, you can't go in like a stiff either.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 109 and you got the other guy saying, I mean, we were there in Pasadena, getting ready to go out to dinner. Bar's about to close.
About 10 minutes. We're about to go out to dinner.

Speaker 109 We're going to meet you down there, Steve.

Speaker 1 I got it. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 109 We We came down. He had 38 Jack and Cokes.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's just waiting for us. There you go, boys.
Hey, how you doing, guys? I got a couple drinks for you here. Send my

Speaker 1 guy. Spilled all over himself.

Speaker 109 He was being the greatest. Exactly.
We need a guy like that just kind of rubbing off on these people because, you know, at the end of the day, we need to find the 12 best teams.

Speaker 109 And who better to do that than Steve?

Speaker 1 Starting with 12. Kind of down to one.

Speaker 62 Who's it going to be? They decide.

Speaker 1 They choose. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good luck here.

Speaker 1 Go get it.

Speaker 18 I appreciate them taking their hats off, going in there.

Speaker 1 This is a good game. Respectful.

Speaker 22 Because you could lower that hat and not watch the film. You're sleeping.

Speaker 1 True. It's like a high school game.

Speaker 47 Can't have that.

Speaker 4 Take the hats off.

Speaker 143 We want to see your eyes and your eyelids.

Speaker 68 Let's make sure that's happening.

Speaker 110 We're going to force you guys six hours here.

Speaker 11 Film.

Speaker 1 Make sure we're seeing it.

Speaker 148 Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 59 They're saying like six hours of film?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 104 We'd have to ask B.A. next time he's in here, but I was just looking at those people.
They probably need a nap, too.

Speaker 90 Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 How do you, that's immediate, sleepy, sleepy.

Speaker 29 That's why you need Stanford Steve.

Speaker 1 Some warm up, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, imagine the oval team that's flowing through that room while the lights are out, maybe some film happening.

Speaker 99 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 The spam for lunch, breakthrough, halfway. Oh, bam! Come on, nice meal.

Speaker 4 Do they got checkers in there?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's all out.

Speaker 18 You know, every day is checkers, man.

Speaker 1 Cribbage.

Speaker 6 They need Stanford Steep, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think they put a shovel board in the original

Speaker 161 sochi ball. Yeah.

Speaker 40 Never seen it fit in there.

Speaker 138 Well, Don't need a vote, though, because he already takes enough heat with his picks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. That's true.
So I'm taking him to the tape.

Speaker 119 Hey, two and one this last weekend, I think.

Speaker 1 Come on now, Steve.

Speaker 1 He's going to get them all right this weekend.

Speaker 54 All right, let's make our picks, dude.

Speaker 80 Let's do this.

Speaker 104 I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 158 Yeah.

Speaker 161 I'll tell you what, Big Mike kind of... I thought he wouldn't go take the point.
I thought there was a lot of points. And he actually is sticking with...

Speaker 161 I think Con Man definitely bullied him into this.

Speaker 161 Big Mike is a team guy. And he thinks

Speaker 161 he said, I'm a team member. I'm part of the squad.
Here we go. I'll take the Patriots.
But yeah, I'm trying to figure mine out.

Speaker 1 This is the first primetime game in New England in over two years.

Speaker 26 Exactly my point.

Speaker 112 This is a, that I said earlier, this is a hello, we're back from all of New England.

Speaker 22 You can certainly see it playing out that way, especially with how good their fans are.

Speaker 16 It's not like it's a brand new fan base trying to figure out what a good team is.

Speaker 73 It's like they're a smart fan base.

Speaker 47 That is a smart fan base.

Speaker 72 They know when to be loud.

Speaker 75 They know what to say.

Speaker 34 They know who to target.

Speaker 58 I mean,

Speaker 14 that's a great great atmosphere for a lot of different reasons.

Speaker 43 And then Vrabo and Drake, I think it's a big for them, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 84 Like, hey, here we go.

Speaker 34 Lights are on.

Speaker 108 This is our house.

Speaker 29 It's not the old dynasty's house.

Speaker 20 I think they can prove a lot.

Speaker 1 And on that note,

Speaker 28 it's been real loud.

Speaker 110 Like Kirk Herb Street, Kirk Herb Street, last Thursday comes on the show and goes,

Speaker 110 don't tell anybody.

Speaker 110 Keep this quiet.

Speaker 110 I was going to be the worker in Iowa.

Speaker 17 And it's like, Kirk, I think a lot of us were thinking that.

Speaker 1 Well, not a lot of us.

Speaker 103 I don't think a lot of people nationally.

Speaker 1 No, a lot of people in the Thunderdome.

Speaker 142 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Strictly because we are forced to watch the Iowa Hawkeyes team because of Ty Schmidt.

Speaker 86 A lot of people in this Thunderdome are thinking the same thing.

Speaker 11 And I guess we should have reached out to him.

Speaker 119 And we should have told him, hey, yeah, there he is.

Speaker 1 We should have reached out to him.

Speaker 33 And we should have told him, hey,

Speaker 69 we're not saying shit about this.

Speaker 121 Like this we purposely did not even i mean we're just staying completely clear of it there's no reason especially with the type of coach that day and lanning is like dan lanning definitely feeds off of that shit i mean it is one of those things so if we think iowa does have a chance there is no reason There's no reason to just go ahead and wake up Oregon, basically.

Speaker 84 Now, the Iowa fans, it wasn't like they just woke up and they killed us, but I thought Kirk made it way too loud.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 48 I think it got way too loud, way too loud.

Speaker 53 And he almost predicted the the damn game i mean kirk knows ball obviously and we thought he we're on the same page him with iowa potentially upsetting oregon but it got too loud football gods maybe go uh-uh i don't think that's how that goes if it's going to be a massive upset it can't be something that the whole world's talking about for multiple days beforehand and now i'm starting to wonder if that's what's going to happen here tonight with this jets team like there's no way anybody 70 of the youtube uh poll said uh patriots minus 12 and a half okay that was with 15 000 votes allegedly who knows?

Speaker 123 You know,

Speaker 123 I'm getting a lot of tweets that look very similar to each other.

Speaker 79 I'm getting a lot of tweets that look very similar, and they're very mean.

Speaker 122 And I'm like, wow, this many people are saying the same thing.

Speaker 106 This could be a fake.

Speaker 138 Those could be bots saying.

Speaker 1 But then you read it again, you're like, kind of true, though, what you're saying.

Speaker 69 These bots are getting good.

Speaker 17 So who knows how many actual humans are in this particular poll?

Speaker 19 We assume YouTube and Google's algo is good at defense of those types of things.

Speaker 23 So we can say it's pretty accurate.

Speaker 1 15,000 actual humans voted on this thing, but 70 of them are on the patriots and i've literally for the two hours the start of the show just sang the praises of the patriots and it's like you know me for four hours before the show am i a part of the problem am i a part of the problem here did i completely flip it that's what i'm trying to figure out aj who'd you officially take

Speaker 161 I haven't officially taken anyone, but you know, I almost flipped back to the Jets, but I am taking the Patriots. Here we go.

Speaker 138 I don't know if I just want to give one up to AJ here.

Speaker 161 Garrett Wilson's hurt. I know.
I don't love that for the Jets. Yeah,

Speaker 109 the Jets do one thing well and that just so happens to be the best thing on the Patriots team and they're very like I just yeah I'm fuck it it's fuck it

Speaker 63 the Patriots are dominating tonight that we all are just in agreement that the Patriots are dominating tonight there's a chance that this Jets team could have found some things in the last two weeks that they put up a fight and they're within two scores.

Speaker 23 I assume Aaron Glenn is hearing all this saying this is very disrespectful of our football team.

Speaker 56 They think we're just going to get blown out at here.

Speaker 32 He can pull from a lot of things, which almost makes me want to do the Jets plus 12 and a half thing.

Speaker 23 But I can't because what I've seen from this Patriots, actually watching them with Patriots fans,

Speaker 107 they are so good, like so good.

Speaker 23 And last week, maybe Drake starts out a little bit slow.

Speaker 20 He figures it out.

Speaker 39 And Josh McDaniels figures it out.

Speaker 51 It's like they are very talented.

Speaker 123 And then the defense is outrageous.

Speaker 87 So, man, it's first primetime home game for these boys. Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean, the Gronk.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 58 Gronk's keeper of the light.

Speaker 1 There's so many things working in our favor where I am also in your shoes where it's like, wait a minute. Wait, is it too much? And then it's not.
No, stop thinking. Yeah, it's not one of those teams.

Speaker 1 It's a variable team. Like, it is a different situation.
Yeah, very humble team. Very, hey, we're just going to work every day.

Speaker 1 If the messaging was different out of the building itself, like even social media stuff on individuals and things of that nature, then maybe, okay,

Speaker 1 they're taking their eye off the ball. But I think it's more so like, hey, if we dominate tonight, what's what's on the horizon is a four-day weekend.
We have a,

Speaker 1 we're on the road next week. But again, four-day weekend, and then you're back in the building.
So this will be the first break in 11 weeks that they've really had

Speaker 1 if they just kind of get the job done, take care of business, and beat the fuck out of them. Well, they're already on vacation.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 102 I don't think so.

Speaker 108 Give me the Patriots. Minus 12 and a half.

Speaker 1 You as well. We're all on this, I think.

Speaker 1 Hammer. God.
God.

Speaker 63 How are you guys viewing this?

Speaker 85 Are you guys betting game?

Speaker 143 12 and a half too many points. How are you viewing it?

Speaker 104 I think it's a dead nuts under.

Speaker 68 Okay, that's Tone's best pick.

Speaker 1 4-2-0.

Speaker 90 Fresh out of Hammer.

Speaker 1 Don't.

Speaker 143 Let's go to the other cowboy that rides in and says, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'll bet on everything.

Speaker 1 What do you mean, everything?

Speaker 1 You heard me.

Speaker 1 All of it.

Speaker 1 Cricket. Are you sure? Yes.

Speaker 123 I'll take two. Actually, they got a good squad over there.

Speaker 142 India.

Speaker 1 They got a good team.

Speaker 109 They split two and a half wickets last week.

Speaker 70 International play, lad, and

Speaker 1 they're taking on a team that is just a group of Muppets from

Speaker 1 Beirut.

Speaker 17 That's what Gumpy will say.

Speaker 75 Dumpy, what do you like in this game?

Speaker 143 Are you 12 and a half, too many points? Are you standing away from that?

Speaker 157 I like the under as well, and the touchdown parlay of the quarterbacks is absolutely in play tonight. I imagine Drake May scores the first touchdown tonight as well.

Speaker 1 He gets loose.

Speaker 23 You know, Gumpy just made four bets in his head.

Speaker 157 Also, if we're just talking about random sports, I like WVU, minus five and a halfers, Pitt, and college basketball tonight. How about that?

Speaker 1 Okay, any other sports we want to venture into?

Speaker 18 Is Crooks playing tonight?

Speaker 8 I'd like to bet on her over.

Speaker 1 Is that possible?

Speaker 40 College sports parlay should not be happening.

Speaker 25 Crooks seemingly

Speaker 1 support.

Speaker 35 We like support.

Speaker 38 Their team will win the game.

Speaker 46 I don't like the props on the college games.

Speaker 1 Can't have it. Yeah.
I don't like it. I think it's not good.
It's ripe.

Speaker 123 It's too ripe for a bad situation.

Speaker 1 It's already happened multiple times, too.

Speaker 138 Got to play defense here.

Speaker 123 We got to play defense of some sort, you know?

Speaker 47 But you're taking away something that's really, okay.

Speaker 98 Well, we would like it to survive forever, though.

Speaker 68 Like, we would like this to continue to survive, so we're going to have to adapt.

Speaker 85 I think the college one is very scary.

Speaker 27 Yeah. Not that the professional.

Speaker 121 She's unbelievable, AJ.

Speaker 1 Have you seen this? Have you been watching this or following along with this story? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 161 She started popping up my algorithm and then watching these highlights. Like, she's killing me.

Speaker 1 Fuck it.

Speaker 161 Sweet little turnaround step back she hits, obviously in the paint. Like, good luck stopping her.

Speaker 160 Yeah, you said she started popping into your algorithm.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 108 I appreciate it, too.

Speaker 152 Did you see

Speaker 1 Hannah Hidalgo? Did you see this? Yes. Yes.

Speaker 100 Dude, women's college hoops is outrageous right now.

Speaker 137 She broke a record.

Speaker 110 Most points in Notre Dame school history, which obviously there's been a lot of greats.

Speaker 85 Most steals in the history of college basketball, both men's and women's in a game.

Speaker 69 Yeah, just absolutely

Speaker 88 insanity on the court by Hannah Hidalgo, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 161 Yeah, 16 steals. That's like a season worth of steals for a lot of people, I feel like, isn't it? Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It really is.

Speaker 30 And she also, she beat the Zips 12-0, I think, in the second quarter.

Speaker 130 I think she won 12-0 over the Zips.

Speaker 68 Just her 12-them-nothing.

Speaker 10 Nobody else scored.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 161 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 161 where did I see it? I saw it on Good Morning America, one of those morning shows, they highlighted her, Hannah Hidalgo.

Speaker 161 They talked about her being like one of the next big superstars in college basketball.

Speaker 69 Well, then there's a Caitlin Clark up there in Fairfield playing for the Stags, I guess, Connor said.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Megan Anderson, she's averaging 33 a game. For shoots, the woman's Stags team has been good for a little bit here.
So now their recruiting classes have gotten much better.

Speaker 1 And Megan Anderson, she's a junior now. Like, genuinely, there's a chance the Stags here going around.
I mean, they were the, I think, 11 seed in the tournament last year.

Speaker 1 It's not like they've been bad.

Speaker 72 And, Gumpy, let's go to men's college basketball.

Speaker 75 West Virginia tonight over Pitt, we got a good team. Hey, we brought that coach in who's really good at coaching that stuff.

Speaker 157 Yeah, both teams are 3-0. They both looked really good, actually.

Speaker 80 Yeah, and the coach for West Virginia, that guy can coach the hell out of a basketball game.

Speaker 20 I love that coach, Gumpy.

Speaker 157 Yeah, I wish I knew his name, too.

Speaker 1 Is it true?

Speaker 1 Some bitch from North Texas. Yeah, Ross Hodge.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 Coach Hodge. Of course.
Of course.

Speaker 28 Hey, listen, you said two as if I didn't know his name.

Speaker 76 I know this man. I met him.

Speaker 1 I met this man.

Speaker 138 I respect this man.

Speaker 47 He's got a damn good fucking basketball team, this man.

Speaker 48 And I like the way he builds.

Speaker 27 I guess we play great defense.

Speaker 48 I guess it is a very difficult thing

Speaker 114 to score against us.

Speaker 9 I think, if I'm remembering accurately, whenever we hired him, I guess it's a ground and pound basketball team here.

Speaker 107 I mean, and going to be good quickly is what I've been told.

Speaker 142 And on that note, Coach Hodge is going to do that for me.

Speaker 1 He's been damn good.

Speaker 109 And West Virginia's former head coach, Darren DeVries, I've been watching Indiana.

Speaker 1 They look to be pretty good this year.

Speaker 135 Oh, he has his boy playing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, his boy has been lighting up the bucket.

Speaker 1 His boy's a good fucking basketball player. Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 Yes, he is.

Speaker 152 We saw that at West Virginia for four games or whatever.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. He's a great player.
He is.

Speaker 109 Indiana has looked very good early. They beat Marquette this weekend.

Speaker 109 Yeah, they're.

Speaker 123 Yeah, West Virginia's really happy that we could have him for a year for you guys or for Indiana to get ready and hire him and his boy and his boy, which we thought was potentially going to lead us to a final four.

Speaker 96 But now we got Coach Hodge.

Speaker 123 And

Speaker 1 he's got a fucking tough team this year.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 150 Tough son, bitch.

Speaker 69 They'll chew glass on the wood.

Speaker 1 They'll chew wood on glass.

Speaker 3 They don't care. That's what the team does.

Speaker 86 They kick ass.

Speaker 121 Okay.

Speaker 22 AJ, that's West Virginia football or basketball.

Speaker 1 Where's Bob Huggy Bear?

Speaker 147 Bring Huggy Bear back.

Speaker 54 So where?

Speaker 161 I don't know. Anywhere.
We need him coaching in the NCAA tournament for March.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe. Well said.

Speaker 36 I don't know. He had a hell of a run.

Speaker 68 There was a lot that happened, but obviously, West Virginia.

Speaker 66 His team's played hard.

Speaker 161 His team's played hard. We know that.

Speaker 23 West Virginia, Cincinnati, obviously, a lot of great wins.

Speaker 75 A lot of things happened there towards the end, but Mountaineers, you know, thank him for his time, as do University of Cincinnati, I would assume.

Speaker 17 If this ball falls here, Gumpy's hitting all four of his Betsies.

Speaker 1 Boom, boom. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 120 Three gumps.

Speaker 5 Oh, shit, Compy.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Run it back.

Speaker 1 Oh, we went into the abs.

Speaker 1 Do one for Tonga. Let's see if Chris Tonga gets in the paint tonight.
Can you Can you shoot one for him? Yeah, dude. Yeah, D lineman.
Oh, yeah. Big fullback.

Speaker 1 I love Bagels and ID as he throwing a ball. Yeah, exactly.
Vrabel has two touchdowns against the Jets in his career.

Speaker 90 Oh, no.

Speaker 90 St.

Speaker 1 Mass. St.
Mass, yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe next week, Tonga. No.
No, no, for Tonga. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Boom! Oh,

Speaker 1 that's probably plus 3,500.

Speaker 1 Just had to shoot it, you know?

Speaker 104 That just means he's scoring the second touchdown of the game.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Okay, so now, see, here's another bet.
Boom.

Speaker 10 See, what we're talking about here is like six, seven different bets that can eventually hit, and the universe just told us they should.

Speaker 60 Got a new game out here. I don't know if you saw it.
Somebody sent it in.

Speaker 1 It's just a round thing that's sitting at the free throw line. Pretty good little game.
Oh, there's two. Yeah, there's two.

Speaker 69 I think you set it up like Cornhole.

Speaker 55 I think it is set up like Cornhole.

Speaker 95 Okay, so you got little hacky sacks, four per team, and they toss it, and if it lands on top of the board, it's one point.

Speaker 22 If it goes in the hole, it's three points, much like Cornhole or any of the other games that are kind of similar to this, horseshoes or whatever.

Speaker 48 But if it falls off, you get a kick because it's a hacky set.

Speaker 1 You can hack it. So

Speaker 78 I think you're trying to throw it to make it in the hole, and then you're just trying to play a little defense with the feet.

Speaker 34 We put a couple,

Speaker 29 I don't want to say mileage on these things yesterday, but it feels like this is a good idea for a game.

Speaker 1 Break it.

Speaker 23 It feels like this is a very good idea for a game.

Speaker 16 We were playing it pretty good yesterday, and it just got sent to the office.

Speaker 75 Whoever created this, I think good idea.

Speaker 84 I think he's got a good idea here, Age.

Speaker 1 Good hacker.

Speaker 161 So you, you have, is it two on, like two on two like Cornell?

Speaker 65 You play teams?

Speaker 95 Same.

Speaker 60 Yeah, opposite ends.

Speaker 161 So if it's falling off, if you throw a hack, it falls off the board. You can kick it where?

Speaker 1 Into the hole? Try to make it in the hole or put it on top of the board.

Speaker 161 Oh, that's sweet. Yeah, that'd be fun.

Speaker 63 Yeah, it's a good game.

Speaker 1 And then also, you know, if you accidentally overthrow, also can be an okay oop if you want.

Speaker 71 Nice.

Speaker 1 The only bad shot is short because that's tough.

Speaker 146 Don't leave it short.

Speaker 123 That's tough to get to.

Speaker 99 Short is tough to get to because you got to operate the entire thing.

Speaker 4 But that thing's rolling off.

Speaker 1 You can even do like a little scoopy to roll it back on.

Speaker 58 Yeah, sort of get the hang of it a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's a good game.

Speaker 114 I think it's a good hacky sack, not the easiest to toss.

Speaker 48 It's a weird size and weight.

Speaker 65 It's a weird size.

Speaker 161 Yeah, you probably, because you want to, like how you hold a cornhole bag, like you want to, you throw a little spin to it. Yeah, that'd be hard with the hacky sack.

Speaker 90 Yeah, so you're going, I think I want like this one here, but I think I saw some of this right here, little finger rolls.

Speaker 1 I was doing forward, forward under hands before the show today. You're doing.
pong toss.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 Tony very consistently pong-tossing that thing close to the hole.

Speaker 138 Has the office found a game maybe that can get them to the title?

Speaker 142 Yeah, is that what you think it is, Flopsy?

Speaker 142 Is that what they think it is?

Speaker 120 I prefer you ball over this game.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 109 Just at first glance,

Speaker 109 I would agree.

Speaker 1 You got to play it for that. I don't hate it.

Speaker 109 I just, I don't fucking like hacky sack.

Speaker 1 Me neither. I was never a hacky sack.

Speaker 109 And you said that. So, I mean, I guess.

Speaker 1 I played soccer. I played soccer.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 109 I didn't. You know, so it's like anything foot-wise, because,

Speaker 109 I mean, I guess it's not really that much juggling, but yeah, I mean, you definitely have to have feet eye coordination. Which, I mean, you know, I'm not a fucking baby deer.

Speaker 109 I think I could do it, but just you ball.

Speaker 1 It's good sport. It's good.
It is. It's good sport.
Some athleticism.

Speaker 138 Some athleticism over here, someone say.

Speaker 146 This is how it goes in the office, though. We play a game, we burn it to the ground, and then, oh, new game over here.
We burn that one to the ground, and we just kind of go in a little cycle here.

Speaker 1 Well, you ball

Speaker 1 the thing about U-ball is I don't think it's been burned to the ground. It's just you and Pat are so fucking good that it's just at the point where, okay,

Speaker 1 who the fuck's going to win? Nobody, except for Pat and Fox, which this game can easily turn into as well.

Speaker 146 No, I'm terrible with my feet, so I'm trying to avoid this.

Speaker 80 Foxy was bad.

Speaker 17 He almost kicked a thing.

Speaker 1 Never been classic. That's good news.
yeah that's the yeah

Speaker 1 come on fox you need to start working

Speaker 138 better you start juggling the world cups around a corner true i assume that game's not going to get played

Speaker 143 it's a good game though we'd like to let whoever knows that it's a good game but it's

Speaker 1 i don't know i think there's a chance it is the the the good thing with a game like this actually is you could in theory uh kind of cross it up here so while you ball game is going on you could play it this way oh that is a good point so it kind of true at the same time so it could kind of be uh like the precursor to actual u-ball because you're still kind of shooting it getting its balls still um so you could play it yeah vertically perpendicular to the stage while you ball is going on this way revel round is the name of the game it's a fun new lawn game i'd say uh developed by indie based play life nation hell yeah indie okay sick i didn't know that was the case essentially you have two round playing boards on once again we get things shipped here we We open them or don't open them.

Speaker 78 You know, just kind of like a hit or a miss.

Speaker 28 Open it could be cool.

Speaker 1 Let's go ahead and do that.

Speaker 28 Open it could be terrible.

Speaker 105 Let's act like we never saw that. Let's throw that thing away.

Speaker 47 And don't open it happens sometimes.

Speaker 63 Those things never get seen.

Speaker 50 So we are not saying you should send something here and that it will definitely get seen.

Speaker 63 But if you do send something here and we open it, there's a chance that it changes the course of the Thunderdome for at least a couple of days.

Speaker 1 No doubt.

Speaker 1 At least a couple. And those days get remembered for those people.

Speaker 146 I mean, that's how U-ball originated because somebody sent us the U-ball thing that you put in the beach, and then we just put it in the corner, didn't use it for a while, and then we're like, all right, let's just start shooting on it, and then a game gets formed.

Speaker 64 Yeah, yeah, it's a pretty good time.

Speaker 1 You know, and it's great for Thunderdome morale. Yeah.

Speaker 37 Thunderdome morale.

Speaker 58 Some people get a little worked up, though.

Speaker 1 Like, D-Bone's been on quite a roller coaster with this U-ball. Yeah.
Yeah. Hey, I get it.
Remember, he was taking it serious early. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 161 Go ahead. Has he ever, has he ever gotten off the ground and legally tipped a ball?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 109 He's not going to like that.

Speaker 88 I've watched him actually do a couple of reverse dunks.

Speaker 161 A couple of reverse dunks against me before. That was the only time I saw it.

Speaker 161 Does he know you have to be in the air when you tip it, though? I don't know.

Speaker 29 I think you were talking about the most recent footage that was debuted by our U-ball insider Bruce Brown.

Speaker 135 You know, good if it goes off the golf cart.

Speaker 31 He's down. Nope.

Speaker 1 He's nowhere near it. He's down.

Speaker 29 That one's a close one.

Speaker 151 Foxy had a photo shot in New York, want to zoom in photo.

Speaker 32 Bruce could have been up on that last one.

Speaker 23 You're supposed to be up on all three of those tips, but the effort was so immaculate that

Speaker 1 we had to really give them everything they had. Yeah, very down and then more down.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that was up. I'm flying right there, dude.

Speaker 1 You're right. You're right.
But this counted, by the way.

Speaker 56 And that's a U-ball difference.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Gentlemen's game. That's good effort right there.

Speaker 63 That is good effort.

Speaker 41 It was 10-3 at that time, I think.

Speaker 20 First golf cart point.

Speaker 1 It was nowhere near a leader. Or to stay with it.

Speaker 161 Or to stay with the point.

Speaker 1 That's right. Mental toughness.

Speaker 84 That's right. That's what they showed.

Speaker 20 And what's their name?

Speaker 1 What is it? Bruce's Bone? Yeah,

Speaker 49 I think it is.

Speaker 1 Brown Bone. Brown Bone.
There it is.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. I think that's what the name is.
I don't know.

Speaker 147 It might be workshopping that one.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That's a good point.
Bone and Brown would kind of be better. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 95 Just like Bone and Butts.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 142 They were a good team.

Speaker 48 They left each other.

Speaker 80 They did. Nobody's talking about the U-ball controversy behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 After this show ends, a lot happens.

Speaker 1 And there's been teams that have come together in great hope and separated in great despair.

Speaker 15 And Bone and Butts had a good run there early.

Speaker 71 They did. And I don't think I've seen them on a court together since.

Speaker 40 Have you?

Speaker 1 No. Has anybody got to the bottom of that?

Speaker 1 Butch has a pretty powerful new team, actually. What's that?

Speaker 1 Tony.

Speaker 104 AQ stole him the other day. So, like, I mean.

Speaker 28 Free agency is crazy. It's like the transfer portal.

Speaker 1 It really is like the transfer portal.

Speaker 1 Not a lot of honor in this office. What?

Speaker 1 Tony.

Speaker 95 What?

Speaker 21 Tony, you were throwing games, if you you do recall.

Speaker 104 That was a Mickey Mouse game.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 U-ball, he's talking about.

Speaker 104 That game should have never been played. It should have never been tipped off.

Speaker 1 It's all about you.

Speaker 81 And that's the problem.

Speaker 61 We need to be the solution.

Speaker 138 You're right. And that's U-ball.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Let's get the hell out of here.

Speaker 60 Let's enjoy week 11 of the NFL season kicking off this evening in the AFC East on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 58 I'll be live tomorrow from Acroshire Field as I head to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for College Game Day.

Speaker 121 Pitt hosting Notre Dame.

Speaker 92 We're outside Ackershare, I believe, Roberto Clemente Park, which is along the river.

Speaker 50 It's a great grassy area.

Speaker 75 It's supposed to be perfect weather.

Speaker 11 I think football is going to be celebrated in a huge way on Saturday, and I can't wait to get back and enjoy the hell out of it.

Speaker 23 College Game Day's atmospheres this year have been

Speaker 1 amazing. Yeah, delivering.
Yeah.

Speaker 74 Lubbock, Texas.

Speaker 1 All time.

Speaker 1 All time. Nuts.

Speaker 103 That's actual.

Speaker 1 That was was like JMU vibes. Exactly.

Speaker 33 Exactly.

Speaker 29 And what you guys couldn't see, what you did on the drone shots was the other thing.

Speaker 109 Yeah, the one time they showed it, it was like, holy shit, like how deep it was. It was.

Speaker 114 We had a crowd watching us.

Speaker 20 Like we were, it was like, I think they had actual like...

Speaker 78 seats and bleachers like kind of going back that way.

Speaker 69 So stage, obviously, everybody sees this way.

Speaker 1 Back that way, there was a lot of people that were like kind of watching us.

Speaker 138 I'm like, do they always have these bleachers?

Speaker 108 Did they bring this in for this?

Speaker 20 It was like, it was pretty, it was awesome. And you've heard everybody talk about it.

Speaker 148 Herbie came out and talked about it.

Speaker 97 Stanford Steve talked about it.

Speaker 98 Obviously, I talked about it.

Speaker 138 It's like when you go to those places that, you know, their team is great for first time, long time.

Speaker 123 It's like they want to enjoy and celebrate the shit out of that.

Speaker 125 And they want everybody to know that they're celebrating the shit out of that.

Speaker 82 It's like Pitt can still win the ACC.

Speaker 61 Notre Dame, if they lose, they're out of the college football playoff.

Speaker 23 This is like massive implications.

Speaker 19 And also, 20 years it's been since College Game Day was at a Pitt game in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 41 So it should be, I think, football time, Tan, the

Speaker 19 celebrity guest picker, dog.

Speaker 161 Absolutely dog. Has that been announced yet? No.

Speaker 1 Kaboli? No, it has not been.

Speaker 15 I will announce it is not Mark Kaboli.

Speaker 1 Fuck!

Speaker 104 I thought I saw a poster.

Speaker 1 I saw a lot of things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the AI renderings of him eat in a poob sandwich are on call for. Hold on, hold on.
We got some breaking news. We got some breaking news.

Speaker 126 We got some breaking news.

Speaker 41 The NFL sent a memo to team officials today saying that in light of recent gambling scandals and other sports, the league has worked with lawmakers, regulators, and sports betting partners in recent weeks to limit and, where possible, prohibit prop bets in the NFL.

Speaker 43 Okay, we're playing defense in real time here.

Speaker 29 The amount of people that have to okay that, lawmakers take forever.

Speaker 27 Regulators take forever.

Speaker 9 Sports betting partners can probably be a little bit more nimble, but normally it takes them forever because the regulators and the lawmakers take forever.

Speaker 1 So the fact that they're playing defense in real time on all three sides of this thing, I i love want to i want to let everybody know that and i think adam silver whenever he was on the show a couple weeks back he said that we're definitely talking to our sports partners about like less meaningful props even being an option like why are these things even here one and a half over under it feels like it's too riggable let's play defense against this in the future i love that the nfl has been able to accomplish this and shout out to the regulators and lawmakers that it feels like they get paid by the day and they everything seemingly in their world takes forever so them in real time trying to make sure everything can continue to go that we all would like and see is really good news i think yeah i've kind of noticed that on just with everything going on seeing some of those bets it's like i do love betting on you know player to catch a pass on this drive or player to have x amount of yards on this drive but those are some of the bets that are just like completely unnecessary you you truly don't need them they they do damn near just set you up to get you back in there on the app but there there's plenty of those and those are like the common ones.

Speaker 1 There's a bunch of other, you know, more uncommon ones that they're just pointless.

Speaker 51 You really don't need them. Yeah,

Speaker 6 I like they're playing defense, AJ.

Speaker 23 Like when Adam Silver said, I'm talking to the sports books partners to see if we can get rid of things.

Speaker 29 I'm like, oh, I like that you guys are trying.

Speaker 125 You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah.

Speaker 161 I mean, you have to. Like, that's the one thing that could really, truly hurt the NFL, the NBA, or any franchise.

Speaker 161 Like, yeah, we have to believe, we have to know that they are legit and it's real and they're not sitting there manipulating games and things like that.

Speaker 161 That is like, what other, what's another threat to the NFL than this than if they feel like, hey, we actually have players throwing games.

Speaker 71 Here's some more details.

Speaker 126 Inherently objectionable markets or bets that are inherently or designed to be derogatory or inflammatory or otherwise based on subject matter against public policy, player injuries, fan safety, misconduct, okay?

Speaker 23 Officiating related markets or bets based on officials or officiating assignments, penalties, replays.

Speaker 1 Okay, I don't think any of these are on any of the actual sports books.

Speaker 73 These are all offshore accounts.

Speaker 153 Determinable by one person in one play based on outcomes 100% determinable by one person in one play.

Speaker 60 Example, kicker to miss, field goal attempt, quarterback's first pass to be incomplete, et cetera.

Speaker 3 These are what we're speaking of.

Speaker 6 I don't know why they even put those first two.

Speaker 102 Those are for offshore accounts.

Speaker 1 Offshore accounts aren't going to list any.

Speaker 20 Go ahead, Bruce. Do you have an update on that?

Speaker 156 They could be potentially trying to get ahead of the sort of prediction market stuff as well.

Speaker 1 Oh, the polymarket.

Speaker 60 now getting into this where it's yes no basically type of stock and for Super Bowl stuff you can bet on like how many penalties there will be yeah and that's controllable by one person or one group of people i guess so like that's an interesting thing predetermined predetermined outcomes directly related to on-field competition example will quarterbacks start this week will teams first play from scrimmage be a run or pass this does feel like the

Speaker 62 prediction markets kind of getting ahead of it on what's possible on those versus what's possible in sports books because the prediction market world is obviously going to be the brand new thing here over the next three years i think two three years it's awesome from what we have seen there's certainly some downfalls there's certainly some downfalls but like just being able to kind of try to predict something and it's viewed as a stock as opposed to a bet so like you get in when nobody else thinks something's going to happen yes no wise and then you you can pay you cash out you don't even have to like when everybody else starts feeling your way so you can like ride how you think like the public's going to feel it's a very interesting you're talking about talking about everything reality tv shows all this type of shit so it's a it's a fascinating new world that's about to come that i think a lot of people are going to be interested in personally just strictly because whenever i was showing it i was like oh this is awesome yeah this is sweet and it's not a lot you don't need to be betting like it's i don't know it's like fun it's like you know you just kind of you if you're invest it's like let's do this so them getting ahead of that's very smart yeah that's a very smart because everybody's going to be doing it i think without a doubt and like you said i mean you know like we'll see what this evolves into but like, something needed to be done right now, too.

Speaker 109 They couldn't really afford to, because the NFLs, I mean, outside of a couple of guys last year, like, coming off what happened in the NBA and everything, like, something needed to be done immediately.

Speaker 9 Yeah, hopefully, all the leagues are doing this.

Speaker 24 Speaking of all the leagues, Cy Young winner, Paul Skaines.

Speaker 1 Hey, Paul. Who are they? Paul.
Proud of you, Paul.

Speaker 53 Hey, he was happy.

Speaker 1 See that?

Speaker 161 He was huge reaction. I know.

Speaker 119 I saw it.

Speaker 50 Yeah, he won rookie of the year. No reaction.

Speaker 11 Wins his first Cy Young.

Speaker 132 Here's Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 1 You did it. Yep, I did.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much, Livy. Awesome.

Speaker 60 Livvy's been here, obviously, alongside of me this entire time.

Speaker 48 Literally, they chatted with us during that first year, first run.

Speaker 24 Hey, what are you guys' hobbies?

Speaker 99 We just kind of nap and do baseball.

Speaker 63 Yeah,

Speaker 29 we just kind of nap and do baseball, man. This guy's fully committed.

Speaker 53 And then he wins Cy Young last night. And

Speaker 99 big smile. Yes.

Speaker 1 Double fist. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Loves Livy.

Speaker 33 Thank you.

Speaker 76 Love you. thank you.

Speaker 1 Mom, hell yeah. We did it.

Speaker 3 We're happy. Everybody's clapping.

Speaker 1 Look, everybody's clapping. We're happy.

Speaker 108 Okay. We did it.

Speaker 123 And on that note, that's what Paul Skeens loves.

Speaker 67 Paul Skeens wants all the cameras on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 He wants all the lights on him.

Speaker 78 He wants the microphone literally as loud as it can come out

Speaker 11 of his mouth. That's all he cares about.

Speaker 63 And it's amazing that he's able to win a Cy Young when all he cares about is all the glitz and glamour that come alongside being the best pitcher in fucking baseball.

Speaker 114 This guy is outrageous.

Speaker 11 They've called it since since he was at LSU.

Speaker 23 I assume the LSU people would say, actually, we called it since the Air Force whenever we saw him.

Speaker 34 Very newer pitcher.

Speaker 24 He wasn't pitching his entire life.

Speaker 29 He was a catcher.

Speaker 24 So he actually has a relatively young arm in the grand scheme of the conversation of pitchers because of the reps that he missed whenever he was younger, where all these other guys have been pitching since they're little kids, basically.

Speaker 82 So he's only getting better and better, seemingly.

Speaker 46 And the way he's talking about the Pittsburgh Pirates, fucking nobody talks about the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Speaker 20 Ty, what are your thoughts on him winning the Cy Young?

Speaker 6 And was this obvious, I guess, in your guys' world?

Speaker 137 And what is the Cy Young?

Speaker 109 He was the best pitcher in your respective league, and he was a unanimous winner. So, yeah, I mean, like, his stats, or I guess I shouldn't say his stats, his stats were unbelievable.

Speaker 109 Shitload of strikeouts, very low ERA, but kind of the thing we talked about all year with him is, you know, usually the guy who wins the Cy Young is winning 20 to 25 games.

Speaker 109 And what, Diggs, he went 8-9?

Speaker 95 10-10.

Speaker 109 10-10. So, I mean, he just, like, yeah, Connor's got the stats right here.

Speaker 109 I mean, he first guy since 1918 to post a sub to ERA with a non-winning record, which is kind of what, you know, if you're a Pirates fan, it makes you sick to your stomach because this guy just had one of the best seasons in, you know, 100 years and they didn't come anywhere close to making the playoffs.

Speaker 109 And that's the big thing with him, too, is coming off LSU. It's like you want to see, because his stuff is unbelievable.
You want to see this guy pitching in the playoffs and in the biggest moments.

Speaker 109 So hopefully they can do a little bit more to help him because because he is, it's very rare you got a guy.

Speaker 109 I mean, obviously anything can happen, but every time he pitches, it's like you feel like he's going to strike out 10 guys and not give up any runs and you're going to win the game.

Speaker 79 Yeah, he'll have a bad inning against a team and that entire team's fan base will talk shit.

Speaker 47 That is who Paul Skeens is.

Speaker 118 He has a bad game.

Speaker 114 Everybody is seizing the opportunity to say, hi, hi, hi, because every other game

Speaker 86 since he got here, it's just been dominant.

Speaker 20 And the Pittsburgh Pirates, let's go to one of their biggest fans, AP Tone.

Speaker 29 Are they going to invest him maybe in some wood, get this guy to the playoffs?

Speaker 9 Because, God damn, it'd be nice to see this guy in a big game.

Speaker 72 And PNC Park in a big game atmosphere would be electrified.

Speaker 104 It's the best. I was there in 2014.
The wild card, it was awesome.

Speaker 120 No, they won't.

Speaker 1 I mean.

Speaker 1 No, but they're going to get a haul. from the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 1 And that's the coolest part about it, too, is that the other Cy Young, Tarek Schubel from Detroit, he's also rumored to be going to Boston. So at least in the end, it is awesome news

Speaker 1 that both of the best pitchers in baseball will be rewarded with massive contracts in a real baseball town.

Speaker 23 For the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 1 Who's rumoring these things? You? No, Buster Olney was the one rumoring Tarek Schubel.

Speaker 1 And with Paul Skeens, that is based solely on the fact that... He knows Fenway Park's greatest baseball stadium in America.
And he looked at the whole entire... I mean,

Speaker 1 when he actually went and pitched, I guess he was.

Speaker 161 He walked around, looked at the green giant.

Speaker 88 Just comment that he wants to be there.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you didn't hear the audio from that.

Speaker 120 He's like, boy, look at this shithole.

Speaker 1 I did hear that. Shit.
Is that what he said?

Speaker 23 Did he say, wow, they really talk about this in such high regard?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Is that what he was saying? Yeah, and he was like, look at this piece of shit.

Speaker 1 Dumpy actually rented the apartment on top of that thing for, what, three, four days straight there this past season. We're putting Skeeno right next to him because Skeena's just walking around.

Speaker 1 He's not, maybe he's saying that, but he also said, like, well, it doesn't smell like poop like Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 Dead bodies. And

Speaker 1 wow, this is incredible. Look, I'm just telling you what's being talked about in baseball right now.

Speaker 82 Yeah, I bet they are talking about that.

Speaker 138 Paul Skeen said, I'm ready to be the guy that turns around to pirates.

Speaker 104 And we love him. Maybe School will come with the Buccos.

Speaker 108 Maybe, maybe we do pay School.

Speaker 1 Because the Tigers were a hundred million dollars.

Speaker 109 They need to bone up and go pay the polar bear.

Speaker 1 You know, hey, Alonso?

Speaker 109 Give Pete Alonzo $250 million over the next five years and let this guy hit fucking 50 homers next year. Okay.
That's what they need to do.

Speaker 14 Okay, I don't, is DH happening for the Pirates?

Speaker 1 Both leagues, yeah. But listen.

Speaker 1 A polar bear to be DHing?

Speaker 1 Off the top of my head, I don't know who was Charbon.

Speaker 44 Schwarbo's available to again.

Speaker 1 Schwarbo is, you get both.

Speaker 1 And here's the thing. Hold on, we got Schwarbo and the polar bear and Paul Skeens.
You're going to have to spend about $500 million this offseason. At least.

Speaker 109 Yes, you could go get both those guys right now.

Speaker 67 He doesn't have seven springs anymore to go get $500 million with him.

Speaker 104 But he sold it for $125, so we get one of those guys.

Speaker 1 Guess where those two are rumored to be going?

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Where's that?

Speaker 1 Shoreboard wants to come home. He was already with the Red Sox.
He wants to come home. And Polar Bear, I guess, said, I'm shipping up to Boston, bitch.
Kiddie, I didn't hear him say that.

Speaker 104 Unfortunately, I saw a report yesterday that Skeens was telling everybody he wants to go Yankees, so that's tough.

Speaker 1 Who is Skeens saying that to him?

Speaker 8 He's just hanging out, out, walking around.

Speaker 104 The report said, Yeah, that's exactly what he was doing. Teammates

Speaker 109 said a couple teammates have heard Skeen says, Definitely

Speaker 157 walking around the club. Oh, it's like I play for the Yankees.

Speaker 109 I won't entertain that yet. I won't dive into it, but I saw it, and I just said, Yeah, it makes sense.
We're right on track here.

Speaker 1 Yep, just a couple more years. A couple more years.
Hey, we had to do the same thing with Garrett Cole.

Speaker 71 You know, if he was a New York Yankee,

Speaker 71 man,

Speaker 156 best pitching staff in the history.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 109 which is why

Speaker 1 I can't even entertain it. Yeah, we're

Speaker 1 two head.

Speaker 109 We're two years ahead of schedule right now. We just got to buy our time.
Just wait.

Speaker 29 He's going to win another Sai Younger team.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 109 Exactly. And then, boom, I can't wait to fucking see him hold up that Yankees jersey at the

Speaker 109 press conference. $800 million.
Yeah, again, we're talking two, three years from now, but it's going to be special.

Speaker 156 There was some positive reporting today about the Pirates.

Speaker 156 Mark Fienstand reported that there is a team that might be a surprise spender this offseason, and it was the Pirates that he was talking about.

Speaker 28 Wow, Pirates general manager Ben Charrington.

Speaker 147 Oh, sorry. Yep.

Speaker 1 It's all right.

Speaker 16 Ben Charrington made it clear this week that he has no plans to trade newly crowned Cy Young Award winner Paul Skeens this offseason.

Speaker 109 In fact, this offseason.

Speaker 138 Pittsburgh's looking to take things in the other direction.

Speaker 16 According to sources, the Pirates plan to be spenders on the free agent market, something they haven't done ever.

Speaker 121 The left side of the infield in the corner outfield spots seem like the most obvious places for the Pirates to target.

Speaker 61 Though the club hasn't signed a free agent hitter to a multi-year deal since 2015 when they gave John Jasso a two-year

Speaker 1 $8 million contract

Speaker 24 John Jasso was actually a decent ball player that was the budget

Speaker 31 two years eight million he's a good utility guy

Speaker 1 30 to 40 million projected in payroll for 2026 how much are you guys paying so they just

Speaker 142 why do they say they're surprised spenders if they're going to spend 30 million because they're not going negative, I think, is the surprise.

Speaker 6 So that they're spending it all is a surprise.

Speaker 48 Not that they're going to be like a surprise contender for anybody worth a fuck.

Speaker 1 Okay. We just got to clarify something.

Speaker 104 Hey, what did I tell you yesterday?

Speaker 1 Two days ago. A lot of things, Don.

Speaker 104 You can't take anything that man says behind the glass when it's related to baseball and the Yankees seriously at all.

Speaker 138 Okay, you're right. He's super biased with the information that he provides and when he provides it.

Speaker 5 I was talking about the Pirates.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you talk about the Pirates. We know what you were doing.

Speaker 38 You were shilling for the organization.

Speaker 11 You wanted us to read that so we would say they're going to spend $8 million over the next two years.

Speaker 47 That was a long play by you to say, how much the Yankees pay their highest paid guy a year?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 109 what? Judge is making

Speaker 1 40, 50? Yeah, close.

Speaker 109 Yeah, somewhere around there.

Speaker 49 50 million a year?

Speaker 1 One player.

Speaker 40 Now he's superhuman.

Speaker 109 Yeah, we got a couple guys that are making.

Speaker 1 How much does Garrett Cole make?

Speaker 109 I think he's like 34, 35, maybe.

Speaker 143 Okay, it's 35 million. That's 50 million.
It's 85 million

Speaker 109 is there stanton

Speaker 141 i mean how much i want to

Speaker 1 30 40

Speaker 109 yeah mike john for the artist formerly known as mike stanton he's 40 i don't know if he's that much but he's making a lot he's making a lot he's making 30 the pittsburgh pirates expected payroll is to be what it was 90 last year

Speaker 107 so you gotta come 30 to 40 in in uh

Speaker 1 They're gonna pay for an off-season spend. Yeah, an off-season spend.
Oh.

Speaker 104 They're not the last, by the the way.

Speaker 66 So they're going to be like 100 and something. Just to be over 100.

Speaker 104 Everybody know that they're not last. They're not even second to last.

Speaker 1 What are we? Or third last. Probably third or fourth.

Speaker 104 Who's the last? The A's spend less.

Speaker 75 And their fans were protesting them even existing, right?

Speaker 108 Wasn't that kind of the thing?

Speaker 1 They're going to Vegas. Yeah, they're leaving town.

Speaker 1 Rockies and White South, right? You guys might not even be third yet. Yeah, thank you.
Might be fourth, though.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Fucking, they got Cy Young's.

Speaker 104 Last is the Washington Nationals, followed by the Mai Marlins, Cincinnati Reds Cleveland Guardians and then the Pittsburgh Pirates so Guardians somehow get in there

Speaker 104 somehow manager of the year back-to-back seasons hey your team doesn't pay shit to anybody and you guys win you're good let's give you an award can't give it to Roberts who won the thing back-to-back years yeah yeah he's gonna do it again

Speaker 104 good chance or something they got a bunch of salary for freeing up and it's none of their players that contributed red sauce gets scuba what kind of go unless the pirates

Speaker 80 Paul Skins, we outside Young War War.

Speaker 1 10 games a year.

Speaker 104 Jared Jones, Bubba Chandler, coming back.

Speaker 119 Oh, boy, watch out, boys. Hondo Boys, all the way back.

Speaker 1 Three of them. They all got hurt?

Speaker 1 One of them did. Okay.

Speaker 138 Might be a little bit too much on the Hundo Boys' arms.

Speaker 96 We're electrifying for your team and our team.

Speaker 143 Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life.

Speaker 91 We're going to stay together.

Speaker 29 See you guys tomorrow.

Speaker 56 I'll be in Acroshire.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Down ashore.

Speaker 138 It's It's going to be hard not to call this place Heinz Old. You should.
Just do it. It's fucking Heinzfield right here.
They said they weren't going to get rid of the catch-up auto. They fucking did.

Speaker 138 Kind of like we said it would. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like Joe.

Speaker 104 Put that thing back.

Speaker 119 No. Remember, there's a whole song in Dance.

Speaker 138 I don't think it's back up there.

Speaker 56 Remember, they were walking it down the street and they take it in the car.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, they were fucking.

Speaker 73 They were like, it's actually staying. They're going to put it back in.

Speaker 138 And Akersher is like, who said that? We paid for the whole fucking thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 138 You're just going to put the ex. You're going to put your ex-girlfriend up here.

Speaker 120 There's an

Speaker 104 location right next to my house. I egg it every time I go by.

Speaker 119 They invest a lot of money in the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I don't care.

Speaker 149 Who do you think is buying food for Pittsburgh Steelers?

Speaker 146 I believe it's a Michigan-based company.

Speaker 107 So basically, Michigan owns the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 Because Fenway owns the Pittsburgh Steelers. They own the shower in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 That's cool.

Speaker 22 Does Fenway still own the Penguins?

Speaker 120 I don't know.

Speaker 104 It's the worst ownership group of all time.

Speaker 1 Even though the Pens are in first?

Speaker 157 They just tried to

Speaker 157 buy a a Spanish soccer team, but they backed out at the very end.

Speaker 138 Yeah, it's because they need to get a player for Spanish.

Speaker 1 And they saw what JJ War was doing. They're like, why the fuck will we be doing?

Speaker 107 Yeah, especially with Español in the morning.

Speaker 138 We drink coffee in the afternoon.

Speaker 138 Espanol.

Speaker 1 Espanol.

Speaker 1 Another goal for Espanol.

Speaker 1 Do they suck or are they still good?

Speaker 157 They lost to Villarreal, 2-0. International break right now.

Speaker 1 Burnley. Okay, of course.
International break lost.

Speaker 157 Burnley also lost 3-2 to West Ham.

Speaker 1 They can't lose to that. They're getting close to the relegation zone once again.
Wait, what? Burnley's going back down?

Speaker 157 No, they're not there right now, but West Ham was right below him, so it was a game they really couldn't lose, and they lost.

Speaker 1 I thought they were top of the table.

Speaker 96 I thought Champions League were thinking.

Speaker 157 For Espanol, Burnley, not so much.

Speaker 130 Wednesday night soccer for J.J.

Speaker 20 Watt would be awesome. Oh, they're good.

Speaker 73 They're very close.

Speaker 4 What is it? The bottom three are gone, right?

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 157 So West Ham beat them last game 3-2.

Speaker 106 Oh, we're in the relegation zone.

Speaker 1 They're treading water.

Speaker 120 How many games left?

Speaker 157 27.

Speaker 1 What? Oh, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 It's going to change our life. We're just sitting together.

Speaker 134 Have a good one tonight.

Speaker 1 We're all on the New England Patriots, Mice, 12 and a half.

Speaker 51 We love you.

Speaker 60 Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 55 And,

Speaker 1 hey, we're just trying to do do it right. Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 58 Yep. I think we're doing okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Not your right.

Speaker 60 Not everything that is said in the microphone

Speaker 22 necessarily reflects the opinions of the peers.

Speaker 4 Team on me, team on three. One, two, three.

Speaker 73 Team.

Speaker 1 Goodbye.