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Speaker 1 And live from Hammer

Speaker 1 is AP Tone. Now, Tone, I have a question for you, pal, because last night's Monday night football matchup featured two teams in the NFC.

Speaker 1 One that was kind of on their way, potentially about to lead the NFC South and the Carolina Panthers, and the other was a team that we've seen in the Super Bowl, a team that we expect to be great, who's had tough injuries.

Speaker 1 obviously at a lot of key positions, but with Brock Purdy back kind of doing their thing, there was a chance that people would think, hey maybe the Niners are going to kill the Carolina Panthers and this morning I woke up saw a tweet from before the game ESPN bet

Speaker 1 still think yeah right still still

Speaker 1 less than a week by the way still happening still still a thing they put out a tweet that was like 70% of the bets were on the Carolina Panthers to beat the San Francisco 49ers and I as somebody yesterday who picked Carolina Panthers plus seven and a half had no idea that people were actually thinking the Carolina Panthers were going to win.

Speaker 1 If I would have known that particular stat from any of the sports books, I think I would have won a different way. Instead, Carolina Panthers defense does everything they possibly can, okay?

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy has three interceptions early in that game. The Carolina offense just wasn't able to really get anything done.
And Bryce had a couple of his own turnovers in entirety.

Speaker 1 And then inevitably, in the end, Christian McCaffrey continues to be Christian McCaffrey. George Kittle has a massive game.

Speaker 1 And the San Francisco 49ers not only win, but cover on Monday night football. And now the Carolina Panthers questions are going to continue.
Is Bryce a guy? Is Bryce not a guy? Can Bryce win?

Speaker 1 Can he not win? Are they a team that's sustainable for success? What are they? And how does he throw that pick? Does he not know the corner is literally sitting there on first and goal?

Speaker 1 We can't be giving that away to the San Francisco 49ers. I think we're pumped about what Coach Sala being back with the Niners.
He looked happy. Remember, we saw him at the Jets.
He lost his soul.

Speaker 1 Now he's back out there having the time of his life. Brant Boyer, special teams coordinator, he was with the Jets for a long time as well.
He's smiling on the sideline.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Shanahan has Brock doing his. thing.
But there was a conversation about the Panthers maybe being for real. And we thought last night they were going to be able to say that.
Tone, Tone,

Speaker 1 why did I not know that allegedly 70% of the people were picking the Carolina Panthers? Was this real? What was this?

Speaker 3 I did some research. So yesterday on our graphics or whatever, we had 62, 61% of the bets on the San Francisco 49ers because that's where we got our information from.

Speaker 3 I went, I double-checked that information. 57% of the bets were on the San Francisco 49ers at the time of the game based on our information.

Speaker 3 I checked a couple other places around 54-55% on the San Francisco 49ers at the time of the game. I went and I reached out to some people.
So there are 10 people still using ESP and BET.

Speaker 3 Seven of them are a group of friends out of Carolina. They said, you know what? Panthers tonight.

Speaker 3 That's tonight's.

Speaker 1 It's about $150,000.

Speaker 3 So a group of friends in Carolina put on the Panthers last night on ESPN BET. Three other people, just random people still using it who are just living in the dark,

Speaker 3 went on the Niners. So that 70%

Speaker 3 on ESPN bet was true. There's just only 10 people still using it, so it was like not a lot of information.

Speaker 1 Still, you said, I think that was kind of the problem for the entirety of it all, but ESPN putting that stat out this morning was a little alarming to me because if I would have known that was the case, I'd be like, okay, we're guaranteeing that the Niners win.

Speaker 1 Now, obviously, there's other stats coming out that saying the Niners were getting a majority of the bets, which makes sense.

Speaker 1 Debut, your takeaway from last night's game, Brock has obviously a terrible start. I mean, there was a couple that were just not good at all.

Speaker 1 Obviously, if the Carolina Panthers are going to beat the Niners, you're going to have to turn the ball over. Like, that is what you're going to have to do.
They did that.

Speaker 1 Never really able to take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 This Niners' defense, even without Warner Mbosa, two of their highest paid and maybe best players in all of football, they seemingly are still able to be very stout defense.

Speaker 1 What's your takeaway about the Niners? And can they go on a run without Warner Mbosa in its entirety?

Speaker 4 I think they can go on a run. I'm a little concerned about Brock Purdy.
I don't know. It seems like since coming back, and he never had the strongest arms.

Speaker 4 I don't really see the juice in the arm or in his ball. That second interception, JC Holmes, was pretty terrible.
The first one I think was a great play by JC.

Speaker 4 So kind of concerned about that. But this game kind of stunk for a while.
It was some great defensive plays, some ball hawks, but it was one star, and that was Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 4 Like what he's doing this year, what he's doing for the San Francisco 49ers, 31 touches last night, over 140 total yards, you know, now leading the league and carries in receptions, which is unbelievable, unreal stats.

Speaker 4 So he was the one kind of shining star in this night. T-Mac, he had a nice touchdown late in the game where you thought it could be a game.

Speaker 4 But I wanted to see more from Bryce, wanted to see more from Brock and his offense. But C-Mac and then George Kittle, obviously, being and doing what George Kittle does, he was great as well.

Speaker 4 So it wasn't a great game, but a big-time win at the end of the day for the San Francisco 49s to move to 8-4 now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great win for them. Obviously, everything about Christian McCaffrey special.
You can go through his family heritage. You know, his dad, professional athletes.

Speaker 1 Mom, professional athlete. I believe grandma, grandpa, professional athlete.
I believe uncles, professional athlete. I believe great uncles and great aunts, Olympians.

Speaker 1 Whenever you talk about like a human being created in a lab, Christian McCaffrey is one of those guys and has been since he's gotten into the league, since he got to Stanford.

Speaker 1 Three-year player at Stanford. They were watching, talking about his stats.
He went to high school in Colorado. They did the years.
And then we saw him at Stanford and think he looks the exact same.

Speaker 1 Body looks the exact same, running the same exact way. Three years at Stanford, obviously comes out.

Speaker 1 Then he goes Carolina Panthers. Then now he's over at San Francisco 49ers.

Speaker 1 As soon as he gets traded from the Carolina Panthers, and we we didn't talk about it being a revenge game against Carolina Panthers, which I don't know if he has any heat with them or not, but

Speaker 1 he's probably pretty happy to get out of there. Well, and then as soon as he goes to San Fran, they make him the focal point of the offense.
And not just the focal point of the offense.

Speaker 1 He was throwing touchdowns, running touchdowns, and catching touchdowns as soon as he got to the San Francisco 49ers. So you're talking about a perfect match.
Now we're seeing him healthy.

Speaker 1 What do you think of the San Francisco 49ers team, BA? And Brock Purdy's turnovers, there's a bunch of Hembo stats here now with interceptions.

Speaker 1 Hembo put up a couple of stats together and a couple of graphics together. Basically, the NFL's average of interceptions is blue lines, kind of going down as the season goes, or as the years go on.

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy, 2024 last year, he decided he won a turnbull every more than anybody else. He's going directly up, if you see that.

Speaker 1 And then there's another stat about his seven interceptions that he has here.

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy has thrown seven interceptions on 131 attempts this season, the average of which has traveled 19.3 yards down the field. So is it inaccuracy? Is it tough decisions?

Speaker 1 And what do you think about the Niners going forward and maybe getting Brock back on path?

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 I think Kyle Shanahan's doing a great job, especially Robin Sala with the defense. They call them the Young Niners now because nobody knows any names.
They're all new guys.

Speaker 5 And to lose that many star players and still be up there,

Speaker 5 that's fantastic coaching job. I have big concerns with Brock Purdy.

Speaker 5 He does not have the strongest arm. And as you see those interceptions at the 19-yard level, because he's got that little blue ball.
And corners undercut him last night.

Speaker 5 They had to be super accurate and lead his guys all the way. He's an anticipation throw.
Peyton.

Speaker 1 He's not

Speaker 5 saying he's Peyton's stronger.

Speaker 1 That was the style of throw that Peyton had. Payton's throwing that thing early before the guy turns around and he's throwing to a spot and they have rep that.

Speaker 1 I mean, I got a chance during the lockout to go watch some of the workouts that were happening at different like universities that Peyton was putting together and watching these wide receivers run the same route 50 straight times.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, we're going to do this 50 times away. And we're not just talking about receiver.
We're talking like Reggie Wayne.

Speaker 1 We're talking about the GOATs. Hey, we need to be on the same exact page here.
That's why sometimes if they were able to get the wide receiver reroute it,

Speaker 1 it would mess up everything. But that was what Peyton did for his entire career.
Like Peyton's going to throw it to an exact spot and that guy's going to get there.

Speaker 1 It's precision, it's anticipation, and it's also repping and repping and repping.

Speaker 1 Do we think that maybe Purdy injury, maybe not as much reps with his guys, or do you think he's off in his delivery of the anticipation balls?

Speaker 5 I think both. Yeah, the injury, the toe does affect you.
But again, I'm going back to that arm. And these aren't the same receivers he's been playing with the last couple of of years.

Speaker 5 You know, this is a different crew. Pearson,

Speaker 5 Ron Dennings, those guys are different than

Speaker 5 Ayuk and Debo and those guys. So I think they're asking more of him down the field, and that can be dangerous.

Speaker 1 I hope Brock's able to figure it out because it was just a week ago where we're like, wait a minute, Brock Purdy's all the way back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then he runs in his Carolina Panthers defense, which I don't think anybody gives any credit to. Once again, we were kind of saying that all day yesterday.

Speaker 1 It's like, hey, I feel like we've covered this team a little bit closer because we've actually had a little bit of heat with this team because of the way we've talked about them over the past.

Speaker 1 They're different than they were just a year ago. They're different than they were two years ago.
And then last night, it appeared as if the defense was ready. Yeah.
Defense was ready for the moment.

Speaker 1 Offense, not as much. Is that just running into a tough San Francisco young Niners defense, you think, Con? It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 Rico Dowdell's kind of been there kind of bell cow these last few weeks and he gets six carries. I mean, I don't know what the hell we're doing.

Speaker 1 It's kind of reminded me of when Gintee had two carries going up against the Denver Broncos. And they started the second half, the Carolina Panthers, and right away, Dowdell rips off a 15-yard run.

Speaker 1 So that didn't make any sense whatsoever to me. I mean, we talk about how important it is for quarterbacks to have a running game.

Speaker 1 A quarterback like Bryce Young, who kind of needs that play action, granted, he has a play action on the goal line, can run the ball in, basically walk it in, and decides to just go.

Speaker 1 First and goal here, man. Insane.

Speaker 1 Just ridiculous. So I don't know what the hell Carolina was doing, but personally, I have a lot more respect for Carolina.

Speaker 1 You tell me before the season starts that they go into Sam Fran in primetime and only lose 20 to 9. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a victory as far as looking at Carolina as a whole.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Niners defense are still flying around it. Panthers being 500, too.

Speaker 1 I mean, they were one game. If they win that game, they take the lead in the NFC South.
Nobody would have expected that of this Carolina Panthers team. I expected more out of them last night, though.

Speaker 1 I expected more of the Carolina Panthers just because I was excited for them. I assume Panthers fans.
And what's his name on the mic?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. About 150,000.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's awesome.

Speaker 1 He got a little Bojangles check, too. Yep.
Which I respect. And also, did a Bojangles commercial, and it wasn't corny.
Nobody, like, didn't say this guy jumped short.

Speaker 1 He, like, got real views out of that. So, hopefully, Bojangles will give him another bag because we need, maybe they give him another $150,000.

Speaker 1 You know, maybe they give him so he can buy season tickets, you know, and make sure he gets himself a car and all the, and maybe buy the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's what he needs, especially with the ability to turn it up. Sir Perv? No, no, no, Sir Perr's the mascot.
Yeah, Luke Combs, also a mascot for the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 He was on with the Mannings last night, having a good time. I mean, they were having a blast.
We all were thinking that the Carolina Panthers are going to have a good night.

Speaker 1 Instead, the San Francisco 49ers go back to exactly what we thought they could be. Christian McCaffrey tears it up.
George Kittle has a massive night in the defense with Bob Salas flying around.

Speaker 1 Congrats to the Niners getting a huge win. We're very pumped for them going forward.
Can they win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 I do not believe so.

Speaker 1 Can they win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 Can they win the Super Bowl? No.

Speaker 1 Can they win the Super Bowl? I'll say yes then.

Speaker 1 Let's go to Hammer. Dot.
Dot. Can the San Francisco 49ers win the Super Bowl? Absolutely not.
A lot of negativity on this Tuesday afternoon.

Speaker 4 Bunch makes us do that.

Speaker 1 I mean, we don't just won.

Speaker 1 I got four. That's your fault.
And that's your fault. You got to be honest.
And your fault. I like where your head's at.
Why not? Why not?

Speaker 1 Why not? Why not? I mean, if you asked me if they could win their division, I'd say absolutely not. But if they can win the Super Bowl, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because now we're putting him directly against the Rams, which would certainly be in a conversation if Kenyan win a Super Bowl. Because literally yesterday we were saying, who's lead?

Speaker 1 Rams lead. And then Brock throws three interceptions and then the next day we're supposed to say, yeah, yeah, still do it against that.
And that's the Panthers defense. Panthers defense, good.

Speaker 1 Rams defense might be a little bit better. We shall see down the stretch.

Speaker 4 We're seeing, you know, we're seeing Nick Bose up in the suite, Fred Warner still on crutches.

Speaker 4 We've seen them lose Super Bowls with those guys on the field. So, you know, I can't see them.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's crazy they even have eight wins with those guys off the field. Like, legitimately, it's insane they're still eight and four and not six and six or even worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm thankful this isn't a San Francisco 49er season where they just kind of punt on the year, which has happened with them over the years, whether it's an injury or just not playing well or injuries.

Speaker 1 So this year feels like they're in it. I believe in them still.
I believe in Brock too. He's just getting back.
And Mac. Let's never ever forget it.

Speaker 1 And maybe if Mac Jones has to step in there, he'll be able to do his thing. You know, we've had a couple different situations pop up here during this season that we haven't liked.
Okay, we've had guys

Speaker 1 haw two in somebody's face. Gross.
We all agreed that, nope, this cannot become a thing. And it kind of has.
This has kind of become a thing. More than we've seen.

Speaker 1 Jamar Chase obviously apologizes to everybody except for Jalen Ramsey and his apology he puts out yesterday.

Speaker 1 Nobody was very appreciative of that, but he put out an apology to the Steelers, to the fans, to his fans, to the Bengals fans, everybody but Jalen, basically. And I like that.

Speaker 1 That's Jalen Ramsey football, I think. Anytime he comes into a division, there's going to be some wide receiver he's going to get after.
Nobody's happy with Jamar Chase's apology.

Speaker 1 Nobody's happy that Jamar Chase is spitting in people's face either because that's a big-time conversation. We had a college kid this past weekend do it at Colorado State quarterback.

Speaker 1 He's a quarterback from Colorado State. He gets blocked and he spits in somebody's face and then he runs like a coward.
Okay. I mean, that is.
Oh. Yep.
And then

Speaker 1 he gets out of there, obviously. So we would like to put an end and be on the side of like, hey, can't be spitting in each other's face.
Nope. That's a guaranteed fight.

Speaker 1 What we did not expect was there'd be some dong punching. We did not expect a big-time dick punch.
We did not expect a left-hand to the kit in the middle of primetime football.

Speaker 1 Four plays left in the game, two plays before the kneel down. This thing is about all she wrote.

Speaker 1 Maury, who was the NFC player of the week in week nine against the Green Bay Packers, an absolute stud of a player for the Carolina Panthers safety, punches Jawan Jennings right in the penis.

Speaker 1 I mean, we watch it in slow motion, multiple different angles. There is a conversation.

Speaker 1 I think he was trying to hit him in the gut i think he was trying well it was below the belt for sure and the side angle that you see it's hard not to think that somebody that's as athletic as he is he wasn't trying to punch that guy right in the boss now i grew up in the generation of ball tagging and ball tapping if you were to be taking a photo in our era in our generation there's a chance that right before that thing happens somebody just

Speaker 1 boom right to the so i'm not saying that I have not potentially

Speaker 1 bag tagged the guy. On that note, it's never been vicious.
It's never been a fight. It's always been, ha ha, ha.
And you know, I'm not the only one. Dong shots and spits in the face.

Speaker 1 What are our thoughts on where the current state of what is happening on a field is? And D-Butt, what do you think about this exchange with Jawan and Morik?

Speaker 4 I mean, I can't have it. They had a lot of heat kind of during the fourth quarter and the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 Even on that play, we got, I think we have the wide copy all-22 shot of what happened on that play. So Jawan Jennings kind of comes in late and hits Morick in the back.

Speaker 4 If this is the, no, this is the other play where Morick knocks him out. He kind of tries to leg whip him.
So they got the heat, but actually a play before that, he comes in and hits him in the back.

Speaker 4 So which is kind of, you can say a cheap shot. Absolutely.
You're standing around a pile receiver comes and hits you from behind while you're not paying attention. Yeah, you may get him a little bit.

Speaker 4 That is a couple notches lower than a spit in the face to me. Like you can never have the spitting in the face shit.
I think all

Speaker 4 he's got it cast, so that's a little extra hard.

Speaker 4 The dick punching, that happens a little bit more. But this right here, all of it is Bush League.
I hate that it's kind of coming back.

Speaker 4 I don't know what's happening with this generation, but this has never been a thing. B.A., I know you coached for 47 years.

Speaker 4 You can probably count on one hand how many times you had to deal with, you know, somebody spitting in somebody's face.

Speaker 1 I don't think I ever did coaching.

Speaker 5 I mean, in my day, going back when I was a kid, you know, that just didn't happen. The rest of that stuff, just let's go fight.

Speaker 5 But this stuff has gotten totally out of hand. Sportsmanship has taken it to a whole new low level.

Speaker 1 I think so. Like, I Jennings, and now now Morig, we think, is a great player.
And Juwan Jennings, if you watch literally from the first snap,

Speaker 1 I think until now, like the energy is different. I mean, he scores that touchdown.
He does a gritty with a gear shift. And it was an incredible innovation to the gritty that I have not seen.

Speaker 1 I thought it was actually pretty spectacular. But Jawan Jennings is a guy who's going to hit.
He's going to be around a pile. He's going to block.

Speaker 1 He's like a perfect San Francisco 49ers wide receiver. And his energy, especially, I mean, it looked, eh.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it was actually a pretty nasty, but his energy throughout the entire night is obviously one that would get under people's skin. Morgan, incredible player.

Speaker 1 Prime time, boys, we can't be punching each other in the dicks. It just can't be happening.
If it's a one o'clock game and there's 13 different games on, let it fly.

Speaker 1 We're not going to be talking about it. We got it.
This cannot become what football is now the game that is starting to become. Obviously, we are a game of integrity.

Speaker 1 We are a game of competitive stamina. We are a game of moxie.
We are a game of talent and skill.

Speaker 1 But what some people are starting to say, seeing a lot of spitting faces and balls punching over there at in football it's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa that's happening in your sport too but we need to we need to stop that in our sport i don't think that become a thing but the heat of the moment obviously guys get pretty excited especially with johanna more and there's been big time shots all game your team's about to lose by 11 this game's about over one more final to hell with this guy we just need to get that thing in his stomach we need to make sure that that is not in the uh the kit and caboodle.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when you see the reaction from Jennings, you knew something like that had to happen before that, that led to him reacting like that.

Speaker 4 And a lot of people who probably haven't been between the lines will be like, oh, it's a violent game. It's a barbaric sport.
Things like this probably always have.

Speaker 4 You always hear the stories about what happens on the bottom of piles and shit with fumbles.

Speaker 4 But like the dig punching, the spitting, all the, even like cut blocks, like wide receivers, DBs, if we're 30 yards away from the play, like don't don't cut block me.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm dropping my elbow in the back of your neck. And I'm like, if you, like, it's just certain things where you don't cross the line.

Speaker 4 You're not trying to intentionally hurt other players, professionals, their livelihood.

Speaker 1 um so i mean i get jennings reaction but with the block that came before the punch i also kind of understand morig a little bit too yeah i mean it's certainly a little bit of heat okay let's just make sure we go on and continue having a great season and let's just uh make sure if we're casting up we're punching in the in the in the helmet

Speaker 1 or the shoulder pads or let's just wait till afterwards boys we'll see each other in a tunnel let's just go ahead and make a circle like it's hockey and do your thing but we love that the game is in the place that it is we just can't be doing the bullshit okay and and I was a punter, so I don't need to be speaking for anybody, but I will say, as an avid fan of the league, spitting in the face is just not something we could have.

Speaker 1 Like, and then dick punching cannot just become a normal thing. Like, because you're seeing this Colorado State kid, and there was another college kid earlier.

Speaker 1 It's like, do you think they naturally do that if it wasn't for Jalen or something? I was like, no, everything kind of falls in line with what the NFL is doing. We have to understand that.

Speaker 1 I think the NFL understands that. This dude spitting and then running for his life afterwards.
It's like, uh-uh.

Speaker 1 That ain't football.

Speaker 1 Don't do that.

Speaker 1 He's once again in the moment. But obviously, that's not even like a dirty hit or anything.
He's just

Speaker 1 like, if he depletes that guy and he's not looking, okay, sure, it's still not acceptable, but like, that's that's as Bush League as it comes.

Speaker 1 It's like, what, a guy can't block you, so you're going to spit in his face? That's bullshit. Well, and then Josh Allen said it during his

Speaker 1 Jersey retirement in Wyoming. Something about it sucks to suck.
Thank God I'm not a CSU ram or something. And this guy does that on that same weekend.
It's like, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, count me out as a CSU person. I'm out on their entire team.
And not that I was ever in, but that type of stuff is kind of how it goes.

Speaker 1 I don't like what they're saying about Josh Allen. Not at all.
It's messed up.

Speaker 1 And I am a Patriots fan, and I would be the one to pile on with the Haley Steinfeldt, whatever the hell her name is, her fans.

Speaker 1 But what they're doing to him on the internet is uncalled for because if he's ugly, what the hell am I?

Speaker 1 And I can't live in a world where Josh Allen is being called bad, mean things by these fans where they don't know anything about Josh. Josh Allen's a sweet boy.
He's a nice guy.

Speaker 1 He comes on the show all the time and he says nice stuff. He's also a funny guy.
He had the whole subway thing in the passcode of the subway thing was 9696 because 6969 was too obvious.

Speaker 1 That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Why are these fans?

Speaker 1 These people, his wife's fans don't know anything about Josh Allen. They can't just be running

Speaker 1 bumming their gums about it. And we need to start checking where these accounts are from.
Yeah, we're going to go. Yeah, we need to start checking where these accounts are from.

Speaker 1 I think we're able to do that now. We would like to let the Haley Steinfeld fans know that we are a fan of Haley Steinfeld.
Now,

Speaker 1 I do not necessarily understand everything that she's been a part of. I wish I did know more about her because she is now a part of the football family.

Speaker 1 She's married to our MVP, but you guys need to know, he's a good one. Oh, yeah.
Hey, Josh is a good one.

Speaker 1 This is a good one. 6'5,

Speaker 1 laser rocket arm. Hold the door for you.
All the time. Cowboy, rancher out there.
They're saying some other things about him. It's like, has that been confirmed, or is it maybe the other way?

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, yeah, so this community note. Yeah, we need.

Speaker 1 I'm in the dark here. They're calling him ugly.
I don't know what's going on. They're calling him a bad guy and ugly.
That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 I read a tweet. Had a lot of views.
A lot. Six million views.
Real views? Well, that's a whole nother conversation. Check all location.
We need to start doing that more. Are these bots?

Speaker 1 But on that note,

Speaker 1 it's a shame whenever a beautiful woman ends up with an ugly piece of trash, basically, is what they said. And it was Josh Allen and her hitting the hats.
The hat kiss.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, can we not just be happy that these two superstars have found love in a hopeless place? Being super popular and a celebrity is not easy to find somebody.

Speaker 1 When you're the MVP of the NFL, it's not easy to be in any relationship. Haley, I assume that throughout her journeys, it's been hard.
Hey, this is good. We need to stop trying to tear this down.

Speaker 1 And we'd like to let Josh Allen know, I think you're handsome. You're not Riley Green, but I think you're handsome.
No one is don't or Drake may

Speaker 1 Drake May kind of does look like he's 17 years old 18 years old yeah he's just got that young flair man he does

Speaker 1 and it is crazy the tom brady

Speaker 1 oh yeah no I mean talk about jawlines I put his up against AJ Hawks I'm not we're not putting that tweet up that was the tweet that I saw though and I don't like it there's multiple of them that's the problem too is like you see one and it's like okay fine even though the one has six million views fine it's just one then you see a couple others with other multiple million views and it's like this one's got got 14, 13.3 million views.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That cannot be the way you're speaking about our MVP.
It can't be real. That's not real.
That's not the real world. You know,

Speaker 1 these people see blood in the water. You know what Josh Allen said many times, how she's changed his life for the better.

Speaker 1 She always talks about how supportive he is of her career and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 What do you want this guy to do? You want him to retire and become her butler? That ain't going to happen.

Speaker 1 I think they're saying he needs to get plastic surgery on his face. Well, that ain't going to happen.
I don't like that at all. That ain't going to happen because you know what she does.

Speaker 1 You know what? she's she's kissed many ugly guys in movies many pitch perfect three boom

Speaker 1 you know and i'm not gonna i'm not gonna go out there and and throw shade on other actors because that's not my we don't want to call anybody yeah exactly we just don't like the our mvp he's being talked about the way this guy plays football he's had his nose broken about 150 times what do you want from him okay maybe he doesn't have the picturesque perfect face he's a pretty he's a pretty good looking guy not riley green again or drake man nobody is that mustache oh my god his His accent?

Speaker 1 Yeah. The way he throws a football.
Oh, guitar? Yeah. We can't be.

Speaker 1 We can't throw it. Riley Green's the one.
He is.

Speaker 1 Right now. Don't throw Riley Green in there because what happens if these Haley heads haven't even seen Riley Green and then they look him up and they're like, exactly.
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 We can't be throwing those two in the same category. Joining us now is a man who's just as handsome as Riley Green.
Dano Olofsky.

Speaker 1 Good to see you, Dano. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 Got your play, boys. What's going on?

Speaker 1 What is the...

Speaker 1 You always wear these bunny. What is

Speaker 1 baud bun?

Speaker 2 Psycho bunny.

Speaker 1 The hell's that? That's lit, dude. That's super lit.

Speaker 7 Thank you.

Speaker 1 What is that? That's a brand? It's a clothing company. Hell yeah, dude.
It looks super cool. Psychos, man.
Can you show that again?

Speaker 1 You see the crossbones at the bottom? Oh,

Speaker 1 no, because it's a killer bunny. Yeah, that's not very appropriate.
Well, it's got rabies, actually. This bunny's got rabies.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It'll come and get you. That's why it's a killer.
All right, Dan, let's talk about being a killer. Brock Purdy turning the ball over, potentially a killer.
Instead, they still win and cover.

Speaker 1 Please tell me the Carolina Panthers could have won that game.

Speaker 1 And also, please tell me if the San Francisco 49ers, with how they are, obviously a lot of missing pieces can go win the Super Bowl because BA said no, D-Butt said no, Ty said no, Tone said no.

Speaker 1 Connor's the only one who said maybe. And I think the reason is we saw the Rams play, and then we see the Niners play.

Speaker 1 Rams seemingly on a different planet than everybody else in the NFC at this exact moment. Niners, can they keep up? And what do you think about Brock going forward?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Rams not on a planet, a different planet than everybody else. I would be absolutely shocked if the NFC rep isn't LA, Seattle, or Philly.

Speaker 2 And more than likely one of those NFC West teams. I do not think that San Francisco can win the Super Bowl.
I just don't think they have enough healthy bodies on defense in their front seven.

Speaker 2 So, Brock, I would tell you that if you look at the interceptions and why they happen, Brock has always been a player in his first couple years that you marveled at how early he threw the football yet down the field.

Speaker 2 He had this almost like

Speaker 2 unrealistic anticipation where you're sitting there going, how can you cut that ball early or cut that ball from your hands so early down the field and still have it placed perfectly.

Speaker 2 The interceptions this season are far too often late.

Speaker 2 The anticipation is gone. And there's guys that don't have to play with a ton of anticipation.
I heard coaches talk about this. Stafford's one of them.
Josh was certainly one early in his career.

Speaker 2 Patrick, because they've got these cannons for arms. Brock doesn't.

Speaker 2 And so he was playing at such a high level because he played so fast and the ball came out of his hands so much sooner than the route kind of established itself.

Speaker 2 Look, these clips, they're all three hitches. This offense is not built on three hitch throws.
Coach knows this as well as well as any this offense is not built on three hitch throws.

Speaker 2 You get to the top of your drop, that ball is out of your hands. And if it's not like, watch how many hitches he takes here.
One, two, three, three and a half. And then it's late.
So am I concerned?

Speaker 2 Well, yes, because that was the strength of his game. But also at the same time, it's something that he's shown.
That's not necessarily who he is, and it's absolutely correctable.

Speaker 1 Okay, and now the Carolina Panthers, they had a huge night ahead of them potentially. They would have took the lead in the NFC South.
Now, granted, they're six and six.

Speaker 1 They were six and five going in. Nobody could have expected this from the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 We've actually been following along pretty closely, strictly because we've kind of dogged the Panthers in the past. So, Panthers fans, which there are still some.

Speaker 1 Remember, just a couple years ago, there was like 500 fans in the stands for their final game.

Speaker 1 It felt like it was the worst, obviously obviously the biggest dumpster fire in the entire league is what Carolina felt like. Then they bring in Morgan.
They bring in Canalis.

Speaker 1 Tepper kind of goes a little bit more hands-off but also starts giving back to the community and kind of understanding his position. We've become big fans of this Panthers team.

Speaker 1 We've also become big fans of Bryce Young. They get all his turnovers.
They can't make anything happen out of it. We saw T-Max score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 I'm happy the Irish Oost got a chance to say hello to the primetime audience to score a touchdown. But what do we think about the Carolina Panthers?

Speaker 1 What do you think about Bryce Young where he's at right now? And maybe what the next couple of steps look like for that team?

Speaker 2 Yeah, number one, last night, the perimeter. The perimeter players did not match the physicality out of San Francisco.

Speaker 2 And that's really the story of the game. They didn't run.
I heard Boston Connor talk about Dowdo only had six carries. I think they had 40 snaps.
They were terrible on third down.

Speaker 2 But if you watch the third downs, I don't see there's a lot of protection problem. I don't think there's a lot of schematic problem.

Speaker 2 They just physically got out-toughed at the perimeter when it comes to ball downfield, middle of the route, physicality at the top of a route to win.

Speaker 2 So they just did not match that from San Francisco. The reality is this game came down to two plays for Carolina.
The pick down on the one-yard line, inexcusable. Bryce has to see that defender.

Speaker 1 First and goal, Dan. First and goal.

Speaker 2 Shocked you threw it. I'm shocked.

Speaker 2 That's just a backside defender. For some reason,

Speaker 2 Bryce doesn't see him. He doesn't threaten the line.
Just run, Bryce. Run.
Threaten. You're one-on-one with the defensive tackle out in space.
And so I'm floored that he throws that football.

Speaker 2 I cannot defend. If he runs there, he's got a guy out in front.
He's got an offensive lineman out in front. Just scream, go, go, go, go, go.

Speaker 2 See that guy's waiting for him because he doesn't want to go downfield. Just scream, go.
So can't make that throw. And then there's a third and four.

Speaker 2 Down, I think it's the second quarter. It's third and goal from the four-yard line.
San Francisco shows all-out pressure. He throws it to the perimeter, and it's one-on-one on the perimeter.

Speaker 2 And San Francisco makes the tackle. I didn't love that play call because what are we doing versus zero? We're just going to throw a swing screen,

Speaker 2 especially with there's no pick, there's no traffic for that backer to run through. And you can't, obviously, one yard line interception, third and goal.

Speaker 2 I'd love to see a ball go to Tet McMillan or T-Mac in that situation. So I'm disappointed with the lack of physicality by the perimeter players.
Xavier Legette,

Speaker 2 he's got to earn the right to be on the field more.

Speaker 2 Jalen Coker, who I believe is an undrafted player, should not be playing more than Xavier Leggett, but they are because he's just not meeting what is expected out of him.

Speaker 1 Legette's had a couple good weeks.

Speaker 1 Like earlier in the year,

Speaker 1 it was pretty bad. It was like, this guy's not a one or this guy is nowhere near a one.
Then he had a couple big time weeks.

Speaker 1 Obviously had a catch last night, I think, on the sideline and some other stuff. But to your point, he's not prevalent enough.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think any of us, we all go, we all talk about Irish Ooze down there whenever we're talking about who the wide receiver is.

Speaker 1 We think about T-Mac, the kid out of Arizona, who's former volleyball player. Some of his volleyball highlights are absurd.

Speaker 1 But they talk about him athletically just being a freak, and his catch radius is gigantic. Nobody even really talks about Legette other than how sweet his accent is and that he eats squirrels.

Speaker 1 Correct. Right? That is kind of the conversation.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I but I'd also say this, Pat, you know, his game has to be physicality. He's not a burner.
He's a big, thick, talented, structurally like sound dude.

Speaker 2 You should be a physical presence at the wide receiver position. If you watch San Francisco to both those guys, just push them around.
Ted fought back a little bit.

Speaker 2 I did not feel that from Xavier Legette. And so I'm walking away.
If I'm Carolina, I'm disappointed with the way that we played on the perimeter physically because we just did not match San Francisco.

Speaker 1 All right, enough about Monday night football. Week 12 was awesome.
Saw a huge win by Chicago, which obviously in turn is a gigantic loss for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 But we saw some shit from Caleb Williams that got us very excited. Go ahead, D.
Buzz.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I asked you a few weeks ago about Caleb Williams and where he was with the Ben Johnson and the offense, and you were optimistic about him. I think he's continuing to take those steps.

Speaker 4 What are your thoughts on Caleb Williams right now and how he's operating in this Ben Johnson offense and how you see it going forward?

Speaker 2 The coach will tell you exactly what he thinks of the player by the plays that he calls. And right now, the playbook is wide open in Chicago.

Speaker 2 And that's a total credit, certainly to the quarterback. You want to run the football? Great.
You want to go hardball, play action out of the gun, great.

Speaker 2 They can get an empty and throw it on the goal line, and he's quick and decisive.

Speaker 2 I think the biggest thing for me, D-Butt, outside of that, what I'm just talking about is like the playbook is so wide open.

Speaker 2 They put a defensive tackle at fullback the other day and ran the football to him.

Speaker 2 They're running the football, they're going really good in play action, they're building plays in for the yards after catch. I believe they went double reverse.
There's multiple screens.

Speaker 2 Here's empty on the goal line.

Speaker 2 But I think the one thing that Caleb has grown the most in in the last month in my eyes is if the play is there quarterback run on fourth down if the play is there like the if if the the play call is the right one versus the defense I need you to play on time now

Speaker 2 if we if I design a play and number one is open I need you to be fast and like that this throws a perfect example of it this is where we're we're calling the play for this defense we get it I need you to play fast that's the one I need you to play

Speaker 2 yeah I need you to play quick on on and so uh I think that's where his greatest growth is I would imagine as a coach if you call play call and you're anticipating something and you get it and the quarterback doesn't do what you're coached to do I can't imagine how frustrating of for a coach that would be he's not doing that anymore and that's why I've kind of said he's really gone from a problem solver or a problem creator to a problem solver he's not really creating problems for himself anymore yesterday he was problem creating you know but creating was what he was drafted upon because he could make magic happen, you know.

Speaker 1 So then whenever he has that style of offense and then we have the turnover early in Chicago and it doesn't seem to go well and Ben Johnson's this hard-nosed guy, an accountability-driven guy, and Caleb is exactly who, you know, we've learned Caleb to kind of be.

Speaker 1 I thought they weren't going to gel.

Speaker 1 I thought they weren't going to mesh because he's very much a timing guy and just felt like personality-wise and football-wise, this couldn't be a worse fit for each other.

Speaker 1 And now it seems like they're perfect for each other.

Speaker 1 And now that Ben Johnson is seemingly building trust in Caleb, he's going to be able to do all the Jared Goff shit with him eventually, but also add Caleb shit in there.

Speaker 1 Is there like a way for Ben Johnson to add Caleb being Caleb into an offense, or is that all off script stuff?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it's more off-script. You'll see situationally, you saw the fourth and one quarterback play.

Speaker 2 You could probably do more bootlegs eventually because getting him onto the perimeter, I think you could do a little bit more quarterback run down in the red zone.

Speaker 2 But the beauty of the offense is we can kind of create so much schematic advantage by the different looks that we can present to you that we can put you in doubt as a defense.

Speaker 2 And I just need the quarterback to consistently hit that open receiver. Again, that's kind of for me where Grady's growth is.
And then I agree.

Speaker 2 I did not think they were going to gel this quickly, and that was my concern. Then, hey, defense wins reps too.
They get paid.

Speaker 2 So if the defense does win the rep, we miss a block, we get covered up, then you can go above and beyond some of those plus plays. That's a beautiful throw.
It's on time.

Speaker 2 Caleb would not make that throw last year. Those past two clips that you have shown, Caleb would not make that throw last year.
And so

Speaker 2 I think that right now, Ben's very comfortable. And I would say this:

Speaker 2 this is one of the, I probably, there's probably four offensive lines that I truly trust right now in the NFC on the back stretch going, making playoff runs. I think Dallas is one.
I think LA is one.

Speaker 2 I absolutely say Chicago's one, which is shocking. I think there's a fourth one.
My brain. Maybe San Francisco is.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And that's really the key here is Chicago's offensive lines become a strength.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I like that the Colts also in there, you know, hey, yeah, the Colts offensive line in there.

Speaker 1 We need to win a big game, but I do like that the offensive line is really the indicator on whether or not you're going to be able to win a Super Bowl, but also championship defenses, I think, too.

Speaker 1 So, you know, have to have qualifiers in its entirety. Chicago seemingly always going to have a good defense, even if the offense is the head coach-driven position.

Speaker 1 So congrats to Caleb and congrats to Ben. The NFC North looks different all of a sudden.
All of a sudden, the Bears are for real.

Speaker 1 Caleb's going to break all their passing records within the next two years, okay, for the Chicago Bears history, okay, for the history of the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 He's going to have all of their records, and they're just getting started. They got another 10 years up into the right as Caleb and Ben, because he's not going to get plucked away.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson's going to be there. So that offense is going to be there.
Good news for Caleb on the turnover, potentially stopping unless they completely go to shite, which it doesn't look like.

Speaker 1 The Lions with Dan Campbell, we assume, are going to be good in this entirety. The Packers, we assume, are going to be...
Big

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 2 Lions are concerning. Their offensive line is not good enough right now.

Speaker 1 Not good enough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 Back the same old lions. Are you saying this year or just like in general, you don't know if they're going to be able to find it again?

Speaker 1 Is it because Ben Johnson was kind of maybe covering up for their offensive line, or is that Noel Ragnall is maybe the big problem with the Detroit Lions' offensive line?

Speaker 1 Is it fixable, or is that just, you got to deal with it this season type thing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, the interior of their offensive line is a concern. It's not good enough.
They will not win a Super Bowl with the interior of their offensive line playing.

Speaker 1 No the Reader, man.

Speaker 2 Ragnow's a concern. Yeah, Ragnow's starting to rewrite Douglas Lead here.

Speaker 2 This is what I would say is you have a quarterback that when you protect him, he could throw with anybody. But now

Speaker 2 the protection has fallen off. I would tell you, I have no idea what the numbers and statistics and analytics.
It looks like a bottom five, bottom seven, pass-protecting offensive line. What?

Speaker 3 And no Laporta?

Speaker 2 No Laporta. Like when Jared got pressured, it was Laporta.
Where's Laporta? Where's Laporta? No Laporta with a bad pass-protecting offensive line.

Speaker 2 As much as it kills me to say, I just don't see it for Detroit.

Speaker 1 All right, last question here. Let's stay in the NFC North.
Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dano, last week before the Vikings played the Packers, you basically said, like, hey, JJ McCarthy, his mechanics, everything, it's not going to get fixed this year, but they might be able to actually fix this over the course of the next offseason, and he will develop.

Speaker 1 After Sunday's game where he just looked like dog shite once again, where do we stand with JJ?

Speaker 1 And do you think there's a chance that they don't even give him that opportunity and they cut bait before he can actually realize his full potential?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think that the latter happens. I mean, this young man just hasn't played football.
He's barely practiced football in the last two years.

Speaker 2 I think the biggest concern right now is you are watching paralysis by analysis.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's clips where he catches the ball in the shotgun, and you can see him walking through drops of trying to think of what should I do with the football right now?

Speaker 2 What should I do, let alone what should I do with the football? Meaning, it's almost like he's trying to think of

Speaker 2 what is the coaching point of a drop or a landmark or how many steps. I'm counting steps in my head.

Speaker 2 I'm counting what I should be doing with my left leg and my right leg or trying to think of what I should be doing with my left leg and my right leg rather than, okay, this is the defense.

Speaker 2 This is where I want to try to work, and this is how I can manipulate somebody or how feel coverage.

Speaker 2 And so, this is the no, that's not the clip, but there's a clip where you can see him go left leg, right leg, left leg, and it's almost like he's walking through it in a walkthrough type of mannerism.

Speaker 2 He's just, there's definitely an overthinking right now. Um, I understand that he's in a stuck place, and it's not a fun place to be as a quarterback.

Speaker 2 I don't think they give up on him, but because of the lack of performance and the lack of health and availability, there's no question you'll have to bring high-end competition in.

Speaker 1 Well, Max Brosmore is certainly going to do that.

Speaker 1 This dude's a stud. He can spin it from what I've been told from the film study we've seen.
But that's kind of been the conversation is that Kevin O'Connell can make anybody good.

Speaker 1 What's this guy's name? Who cares? Kevin O'Connell's the coach and the offense coordinator. If he can throw a football, he will be a good quarterback.

Speaker 1 Then when we talked to Kevin O'Connell down at owners meetings, we said, because they were looking for a quarterback, obviously they had moved on from Sam Darnold. Danny Dimes had left the building.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers allegedly was interested in the job, but they seemingly passed on him or let him know they were going to pass. We asked Kevin O'Connell what you're looking for, and he said, accuracy.

Speaker 1 So did we think J.J. McCarthy was an accurate passer?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 I would say this, Pat.

Speaker 2 I think one of the things that I certainly did not think about, and Coach could probably speak to it better, is the guys that Kevin's had a ton of success with, it's in part because they've had experience in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Like they mechanically have worked through some of the issues that maybe were a problem in their past. Kirk Cousins was a vet.
Sam Darnold was a vet.

Speaker 2 Even some guys like Nick Mullins, who's had to play, he's been around the NFL for four, five, six years.

Speaker 2 And so this is, you know, Kevin O'Connell's first time with a young, very young, and certainly unproven player. And it just feels like the expectation of

Speaker 2 baseline performance for the coach and the play caller was here, and where the player is is really here. So I would probably pinpoint it on a lack of development to the point that is needed.

Speaker 1 Injury hurts that obviously his rookie year. Big conversation, Coach B.A., the author of a book called The Quarterback Whisperer.

Speaker 1 That's what he's actually titled, Bruce Arians, 47 Years in Football, has coached every single quarterback that's basically ever played quarterback, and also every quarterback that has gone into the Hall of Fame, basically.

Speaker 1 You know quarterbacks inside and out. You know the NFL and the league and how it operates and offense and everything like that inside and out.

Speaker 1 When you hear about J.J. McCarthy and how it's all going and the stories coming out, his leadership's great, his moxie is great.

Speaker 1 And then you hear these things like, well, he also calls himself nine when he's on the field and he's on demon time and he's got to control all that type of stuff. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 1 What would your messaging be to him? And have you ever had an experience like this with a young quarterback that maybe is struggling very, very, very hard early?

Speaker 5 Yeah, a couple of times. But yeah, the alter ego thing is it needs to be AP.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 5 Accurate passer. Okay.

Speaker 5 You don't need snot bubbles and tears. Okay.

Speaker 1 You play quarterback, not linebacker.

Speaker 5 Okay. We don't need all this hyped up bullshit.

Speaker 5 Just go fucking play quarterback and be relaxed and throw the damn ball to the right guy. Because you've got the talent.
Now, I go back his senior year, what did he throw?

Speaker 5 45 passes the entire in fourth quarter his entire senior year?

Speaker 1 35.

Speaker 5 35. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 5 that's not NFL ready. Scary or something.
Then you miss your rookie year. All right, so he has had no development as a pastor.
And, like, mechanically, you can't think about mechanics in the NFL.

Speaker 5 You've got to be thinking about where the hell am I going with this ball in two-point seconds. All right, this thing's got to go somewhere right there because of this.

Speaker 5 I don't think he's missing all of that right now. First of all, how the hell do I get back there?

Speaker 5 How do I read it? Where's it going?

Speaker 1 And also, how do I throw it?

Speaker 5 Now he's thinking about how the hell to throw it. So it's like, that's a bad combination, brother.

Speaker 1 Really bad. What would you say to him? You tell him, just fuck it.
We got to stop thinking about all this stuff? Or how would you do that? Ayahuasca, maybe?

Speaker 5 Just relax, get rid of nine. First thing, let's get rid of nine.

Speaker 1 All right?

Speaker 5 And let's get JJ in there and play. Yes, you're a hell of a leader, but it can be, it's totally different.
When you're leading Michigan and you're leading the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Michigan team could run 50 straight times on basically everybody because of who they had. Minnesota is not going to be able to do that.
And Kevin Onley, well, they could. They tried to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to have to.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's going to win in the NFL, but Kevin O'Connell's entire offense is based on this guy processing, developing, knowing, and delivering quickly, just like Shanahan's office.

Speaker 1 And that's why Justin Jefferson's sitting out there. Madison.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's Hawkinson. Oh,

Speaker 1 Jones.

Speaker 1 Jordan Mason. Oh, Darasaw, paid left tackle.

Speaker 1 They would have been the number one seat in the NFC last year. And then they decided, like, hey, this is what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 So there's a lot of pressure on him to develop, which I can see why he would overthink it. But you're saying we need to get rid of all of that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we got to wipe that slate clean and just go back to basics. Let's keep it as simple as possible.
Every game where he's not thinking about everything.

Speaker 1 Last thought, go ahead, Dano.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I think the thing, coming out of school, JJ, my one thing within him was he looks on a play-by-play basis like a player who's trying to be perfect all the time. I know what it says on paper, Coach.

Speaker 2 I will do that perfectly. I will do exactly what the paper says.
And I just don't think you can play at that level, chasing perfection

Speaker 2 on a play-by-play basis. I think to Coach's point, like, dude, you just got to go play, man, and stop trying to do everything flawlessly perfect by what the paper says.

Speaker 1 Not only on the field, but off the field. Well, you hear his press conferences, you hear the answers he's given, you see the way he acts, his leads.

Speaker 1 It does feel like he's trying to be a movie character NFL quarterback, you know? Like, this is what I've heard you're supposed to be like.

Speaker 1 That's what I heard you're supposed to be like. I think it's good intentions, you know, but I think it's a lot to kind of try to process as opposed to just being you're trying to be.

Speaker 1 I think you'll be able to figure it out. And I don't like

Speaker 1 that. It better not be about getting rid of nine.
Okay. Like,

Speaker 2 it's about the Eagles. It's about the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 All right. So here's my complaint about the Eagles, Coach.
So one of the things I always loved about you and like in my

Speaker 2 thought was you didn't play around in the run game.

Speaker 2 You're like, I'm just trying to be efficient in my run game Try to continue to be in good down and distances and oftentimes I was like here comes duo here comes duo Here comes duo underneath center duo Philly doesn't do it enough Philly's in the shotgun the shotgun run drives me nuts.

Speaker 2 Do you agree with that? Like can you explain to me in your thought the advantage of running from underneath the center at people with double teams in comparison to running today in the shotgun?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, definitely. You know, and you know where the big difference is, Dan, it's in your play action game.
When you are under center and you're taking a seven

Speaker 5 and maybe time it up to nine step drop on a bootleg, you can't do that in the shotgun. You know, it's going to be the five at the best.

Speaker 5 So you're usually back there holding the damn ball waiting for that stuff to go down the field. But the running game, yeah, I'm an under center guy.
I'd love to have that tail back behind me.

Speaker 5 And if the quarterback's injured a little bit, I don't mind the pistol. I put the kids in the pistol back in the 80s with the head spraying ankles.

Speaker 5 But we can still do everything we want to do, go go both directions. I agree with you totally on that shotgun running game.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. When you thought of that back in the 80s, you said, This backup quarterback ain't worth a shit.
If we can stand you out there, we will do that with Pistol Brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's exactly what you said. Yeah, without saying it.
Dano, we appreciate that a lot of you, man. That's Dan Rolofsky.

Speaker 1 Dan wanted to host his own show there, eat up more time, has no idea we got a living legend waiting around. Come on.
Ladies and gentlemen, this man might be an SEC father at this point.

Speaker 1 I'm not 100% sure. One of the greatest comedians to ever exist.
A human's brain cannot be any more epic than this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Theo Vaughn.

Speaker 1 Hey, sorry, Dano just kept that thing going. Theo, I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 8 Oh, it's okay. He's probably just chilling time, probably trying to stay away from his wife.

Speaker 8 You know, I don't know. I mean, people, that's what my buddies do.
They're always in their cars, like in their, like in their yard, trying not to go inside.

Speaker 1 Dan's wife's a sweet lady. Theo is obviously saying that as well.
Does not know her. She's a sweet lady.
And who knows what? Yeah, Dan was sitting on the side of the road, though, there for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna piece of it together. Yeah, yeah, we're not getting into it, but let's talk a little bit about relationships.

Speaker 1 Uh, we see, we saw you on Senior Day at Vandy, we saw the video, yeah. Uh, can you tell me about your relationship with the Pavia family and Diego and his mom, and everybody?

Speaker 1 Because I think this has been a big piece of Vandy's story: not only bringing people in, but Nashville people becoming massive Vandy fans. Can you talk a little bit about it?

Speaker 1 And what was Senior Day like?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, you know, the lore with me and his mom, you know, like we made a bet one day on a game. And Diego said if they won against South Carolina, that he would set me up on a date with his mom.

Speaker 8 And then,

Speaker 8 and they won. And so I was, you know, kind of getting fired up or whatever, or at least I was like, you know, taking care of myself better a little bit.
And then.

Speaker 8 And then he said, then he added to the date, he's like, but only if I get to go on a date with Tate McRae. And so we never could make that happen.
So the date never really panned out.

Speaker 8 The date never made it, right?

Speaker 1 You couldn't hold up the bargain. Yeah, yeah, got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I couldn't get him a date with Tate McRae. She wouldn't answer my DMs.
I don't blame her.

Speaker 8 But anyway, yeah, but I've just become friends with the family, man. And he asked me last week.
He's like, hey, will you walk out there with me on senior day?

Speaker 8 Which was pretty cool.

Speaker 8 Yeah, the guy's just like.

Speaker 6 I don't know. He's an underdog.

Speaker 8 He's an under lion, actually. I don't know if they have under lions, but that's what that dude is, man.

Speaker 8 He's like, he's the ultimate under animal.

Speaker 8 and he just the whole group there they got a whole group of guys like the light is on in them um it's just been an uplifting group and i just started becoming friends with diego during the summer and then some of his roommates and like um and now i just love being over there it like adds so much joy to my life so Yeah, Snoop Dogg became Snoop Lion.

Speaker 1 So I think you can say underdog to under Lion as well. I think that's a good play by you.
That's that big brain that you're using for Diego. Obviously, in Heisman chatter, we all hope.

Speaker 1 Yep, it's under there. We all hope that Diego gets an opportunity to go represent Vandi in New York City.
I think he has certainly earned it.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about you and SEC football getting a chance to be around. Obviously, you're normally touring, I think, during this time.

Speaker 1 This year, you've gotten a chance to go experience the entirety of this college ball season. What are your thoughts? And I know you and Lane have gotten very tight as well.

Speaker 1 He's in the middle of like maybe one of the biggest stories in

Speaker 1 the last 10 years of college ball because there's a lot of new rules that are about to be made because of Lane.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Well, Lane is causing problems, and that's what he does. You know, that's part of like, you know, he's, he likes to,

Speaker 8 you know, he likes to bring his own bumblebees wherever he goes. He's just that kind of guy, you know, he likes to have an effect on things.

Speaker 8 On the field and off, he's just an entertaining guy, man. I think he's probably one of the most entertaining and unique characters that's kind of existed in college football.
I mean, he's on Twitter.

Speaker 8 He's like.

Speaker 8 kind of like putting out little clues and like it's just like this this scavenger hunt for his like imagination or whatever i have you don't even know what you're doing after a while you get on these rabbit holes and like, then you're looking at like geolocations of where he was raised and stuff online.

Speaker 8 It's like it gets pretty out there. So

Speaker 8 yeah, but going there was awesome. I hadn't gotten to go to a lot of these SEC places to see games.
So I got to go to Old Miss and the Grove. I mean, it stood up as like one of the best parties.

Speaker 8 Lane gave me his hotel room in the team hotel or whatever for the night. And so

Speaker 8 they even had like a charcuterie in there, a couple sauce, yeah, a couple night sausages or whatever.

Speaker 8 And so I got to have those, a couple juice boxes, which I thought was kind of crazy that somebody would have that's an adult coach or whatever, yeah, lane who done, yeah, who doesn't love a couple juice boxes or whatever before bed.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 8 but yeah, so that was just like that experience was uh, was pretty unbelievable.

Speaker 8 But yeah, we've gotten to go to been to Alabama, gotten to see um a game there, and that's more like a pro, it feels like a pro environment there. Uh, Virginia Tech, that was amazing.

Speaker 8 That's probably one of the most um choreographed fan bases with all of the the people that are in the military that are

Speaker 8 enlistees that are there. So you have like all this like whole like storm of like humanity that's happening, like while the game's going on.
If you went to South Carolina,

Speaker 8 LSU, we saw a game at this year. We're going to go to Nealon this weekend.
I already went to Nealon once. So, yeah, man, sorry to just be talking so much.

Speaker 1 No, this is why you're here. Yeah, listen,

Speaker 1 if you would come on our show and just talk for two hours, that'd be great for us. We would certainly take that.
So you do and say whatever the hell you please. We're very thankful you're joining us.

Speaker 1 But, have you always been a college ball fan? Are you kind of getting baptized by it this year?

Speaker 1 Because I know you're from Louisiana, and obviously, I've learned a lot about the people you grew up around.

Speaker 1 You know, I had a kid in the neighborhood this, had a guy in the neighborhood this, up the street did this. I've learned about your neighborhood.
Is it a big college football town?

Speaker 1 Are you a big college ball guy, or is this the first year you're really diving in? And it's okay for either of those answers, by the way. I'm very new to the college ball world, and it is epic.

Speaker 1 I'm a huge fan.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think I'm, I mean, I've always been an LSU fan, and then I moved to Tennessee. So that, you know, has been kind of a new experience.

Speaker 8 But this year, I think I've just had the, I've had the most free time to get involved, you know, and having a team like Localia here that was starting to be a fun place to watch football, I think helped to really start change it, start to change it for me.

Speaker 8 I just start to, I think about how long, think about the SEC, right? Probably the most

Speaker 8 notorious conference in college football, at least probably in the past 25 years. And they

Speaker 8 Vanderbilt has been at the bottom. When you think about the fact that they've been in that conference and just been, you know, laughed at, bro.

Speaker 1 Laughed at. Coach Sabin was on our show.
Coach Sabin doesn't talk shit about anybody. Coach Sabin's on our show and is like, everywhere is difficult to play in the SEC, all right?

Speaker 1 Except for Vanderbilt. That was literally what he said.
That's how Vanderbilt was kind of viewed. It was like, Jay Cutler went there, but this team stinks.

Speaker 1 And then NIL Transfer Portal, Clark Lee comes in there.

Speaker 1 And that place is like really bringing Nashville to life I wouldn't say that but bringing Nashville to a college football town right wouldn't you say

Speaker 8 yeah I mean it's kind of it's lightly popping I would say I mean you know like some places they'll have like the kiss cam at like halftime or whatever and they have like the reading cam there like they'll find people that are reading in the stands and stuff so it's definitely like it's a different energy you know um

Speaker 8 So, you know, you have to, but you have to, it's baby steps, you know, I think it's been interesting to watch a fan base, and this is just an outsider's perspective, but to watch a fan base like, they don't know what to do, like, when their team is doing it, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 8 There's not a lot of cheers and chants built in. So you'll see at certain points of the season, they started teaching the fan base like different cheers and stuff.
It's been pretty fascinating.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it certainly is. And college football fans are our best fans.

Speaker 1 I think we're the ones, they're the ones that we would put up against the hooligans in Europe whenever you're talking about best fans in the world for something.

Speaker 1 Super, super passionate group of fans in college football, especially in the SEC. Now, we only have a couple minutes left because Dan Orlovsky just ate it all up.

Speaker 1 But talking about passion, there's a lot of shit going around with your home state and also Lane.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Theo, given your connection and your ties to Louisiana, and I believe you went to school at LSU for a little bit. They kind of put all their eggs into, hey, we need to go hire Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 1 That is kind of the only option that we have. What do you think will ultimately happen if they don't hire a guy like that? Like, is Louisiana just going to crumble?

Speaker 1 Is there going to be mass chaos in the streets? And what should Lane do? One minute, Theo.

Speaker 8 If I'm Lane, I think he's built something great over there at Old Miss. It's exciting there.
People are giving all they can.

Speaker 8 People are selling things that they're sacrificing antiques and stuff like that to be able to donate to the Grove Initiative. People are trying to get that NIL money.

Speaker 8 People are selling family recipes to put money into that.

Speaker 8 I feel like he's pushed the cart all the way up the hill there. So to leave right now feels weird.

Speaker 8 It almost feels like it would be like when Sabin left right before he started winning all you know just rattling off championships um but that's my thoughts i don't know what lanes are you know he may have different he has he obviously has different ideas um i just can't i don't know who he's trolling that's the thing and he's definitely trolling somebody so i'm intrigued to see who it is but i just think he it seems to me like he has such a great life over there um that i think he should stay now would he be great at lsu i think anybody would be great at lsu um it just wasn't working out for brian kelly there's a lot of good coaches that could be great there So,

Speaker 1 all right. Well, good luck to all of them.
Theo, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3 Can you talk to us next week?

Speaker 8 Yeah, dude, I would love to talk about something next week. And let's get freaking.

Speaker 8 I want to talk about who's going to be in this playoff, Playboy.

Speaker 1 You got it.

Speaker 1 We'll join. Hey, we'll see you next week.
You're the man. You're the greatest.
Thank you for everything you've done for us, by the way, over like the last 20 years since real world road rule shit.

Speaker 7 You're the best.

Speaker 8 Oh, I'm great, but I'm going to get some ice cream.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
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Speaker 1 Football is awesome. It's spectacular.
It's stupendous. And the NFL just wrapped up its week 12 of its season.
There was no

Speaker 1 from 47-year football coach Coach BA. Coach ABA.

Speaker 5 There was one.

Speaker 1 I've checked out sides. Yeah, it's on me.
Talks to Tables here at Boss Boss Conner and that's Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.
Butler is here

Speaker 1 and live from Hammer Don Don is AP Tone, who we're going to be visiting with here in just a few moments about what the College Football Playoff Committee is going to do tonight and hopefully what the CFP chair is going to say afterwards.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 1 on game day,

Speaker 1 college football institution,

Speaker 1 looked at the camera a couple times and told this Hunter character, who is the new chair of the CFP committee, Hunter Yurich, who has been thrusted into the CFP chair position because Mac Rhodes, who's no longer

Speaker 1 athletic director at Baylor, is also no longer the chair of the CFP. That was a week ago.
That was changed. So Hunter Yuracek was kind of put into this position.
He's out of Arkansas.

Speaker 1 Guy from Utah gets put into the committee to kind of substitute the Big 12 athletic director lost from Baylor there.

Speaker 1 So they have a kind of a new operation, but 10 of the 12 pieces still in the exact same role that they have been in the entire time.

Speaker 1 This Hunter Yurichyk guy comes out after the CFP bracket is kind of laid out. Like, this is what we see it and how we see it.

Speaker 1 And it's the most important thing, okay, of the entire college football world, this thing on Tuesday. It's the one that matters.
What happened this weekend? The games. Games, obviously, awesome.

Speaker 1 They set up for this particular group to decide who gets a start at 12 and try to count down to one. It's a big deal.
So then whenever the CFP checks, we can't run it every day. Are you sure?

Speaker 1 We don't have enough time.

Speaker 4 Are we sure?

Speaker 1 We're not doing it right now. We're not doing it right now.
Because I got to make this point. Okay, okay.
We're allowed to say, hey, bud, you got to give better answers. Okay.

Speaker 1 This CFP committee is a big deal. This is very important.
It is a lot of money invested, a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of people's lives.

Speaker 1 So whenever you guys are rolling out what your bracket is and the things and reasons why you're doing it, we just need a little transparency.

Speaker 1 We need a little bit of an answer because we're all covering it, talking about it, and in love with it. So it's like that's a very important role.

Speaker 1 I think Hunter, maybe his first time out there filling in for Mac Rhodes, was scared to death. I think he was potentially scared to death.
This week, what we want to let Hunter know is, you know what?

Speaker 1 You got it. I'm on now.
There's a reason you're in that chair.

Speaker 1 And go ahead and give us information. You're allowed to do that.
Live from Manatic in Ohio. He's a man who is an alumni of the number one team in the country.

Speaker 1 He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Roderick Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.
Hawk.

Speaker 1 Hawker. I know Ohio State fans don't care because the only thing that's on their mind is their team from up north.

Speaker 1 It's a big one. It's true.
It's a big one. It's a big week.
How do we feel? You got to feel good. How many days has it been since you guys beat Michigan? Oh,

Speaker 1 thousands-something. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. It's been years.
Yeah. Years.
Oh, my God. Because they've come into your house.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Shit, God.

Speaker 1 Is that live right now?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Bruce Brown now running computer

Speaker 1 is. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 You know, he had that potted up real quick. Old Bruce or Michigan.

Speaker 14 We had it yesterday if we needed it. We got it today as well.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Happy to have that in the back, but that very quickly came up there.
2180 what's that that's six years

Speaker 6 well didn't they you know they bailed out one year covid it didn't play i believe that adds to it

Speaker 1 six years time didn't stop it's four uh four straight games i believe right i don't know all i know is it's 2187 days ago we watched i forgot aiden hutchinson kind of started this entire thing didn't he he did if i if i do recall in the snow he's on his second contract guys are worth 200 million.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. The Buckeyes, obviously a very proud group, a very tough group of people.

Speaker 1 They were saying to themselves, Ryan Day just can't get it done. This guy needs to get the hell out of town.
Loses to Michigan last year. Wins the national championship.

Speaker 1 Ryan Day is not even allowed to celebrate.

Speaker 1 That's cool, Bub. It's been a couple thousand days since you beat Michigan.
Let's go ahead and make sure we do that next year so we don't have to do this whole song and dance. Ryan Day feeling heat.

Speaker 1 Team feeling heat.

Speaker 1 You think Ohio State understands that even though they've been the outright number one team in the country basically since week 1.1 after they beat Texas, they've been a number one team.

Speaker 1 They've dominated everybody. They've shown really no weaknesses.
They've shown really no. Illinois scored some points on them.
I guess that's the only thing you can really say.

Speaker 1 Other than that, quarterback could win Heisman. Wide receivers could be best players in ball.
I think they're back this weekend, which is a big deal. The defense is outrageous, historically good.

Speaker 1 Special teams, we assume that is good as well. But they know that if they were to lose to Michigan, nobody would care about any of it, right? Isn't that kind of the entire conversation?

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's kind of, I think people outside of Ohio and Michigan, they don't completely understand. But yeah, you got to win this one, absolutely.

Speaker 1 And that's, I think,

Speaker 1 I think that's the beautiful thing about Rivalry Week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we are in Rivalry Week right now. Let's head over to Hammer Don Don.
All the rivals on Friday and Saturday, Tone. And there's some big ones out there.

Speaker 1 Shout out to College Ball always delivering for us on this particular Thanksgiving holiday weekend. Because not only Thanksgiving's packed,

Speaker 1 chocked full. Friday, we got a Black Friday game as well, NFL.
And then also, yeah, we got full day Friday of rivalry games, full day Saturday of rivalry games. What are the nightcaps?

Speaker 1 Well, after you watch the NFL game at 3.30 on Prime, you can go ahead and watch Texas A ⁇ M in Texas. Okay, that's going to be huge.
Arch Manning's playing his best ball.

Speaker 1 Texas is playing their best ball. Texas A ⁇ M has obviously been great all year.
Marcel Reed might win the damn Heisman. Texas A ⁇ M under Elko to the moon.

Speaker 1 And then on Saturday, yeah, just go ahead and kick back. You got game day kicking off from Ann Arbor at 9 a.m., available on X and on ESPN once again.
And then obviously at noon, that game kicks off.

Speaker 1 And then what's the nightcap? What's happening late at night? Alabama Auburn, okay? Which is going to be gigantic no matter how either team are playing in this thing.

Speaker 1 So whenever you talk about rivalry, you talk about special matchups. Tone, what are you thinking about whenever it comes to these two days of outright great college ball?

Speaker 3 It is going to be awesome. And obviously, you know, as they say, Rivalry Week, you can throw out the records.
You better buckle up the chin straps. There is no love lost for these matchups, obviously.

Speaker 3 But let's start at the Egg Bowl. Ole Miss in Mississippi State.
They've been playing this one non-stop since 1944. Obviously, one of the grittiest rivalries in the SEC.

Speaker 3 In this one, Ole Miss has won two straight. If they win three straight, they're going to go to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 And tell you what, it's a big storyline for them going to the playoffs, but the bigger storyline may be the decision on on Saturday that's coming after.

Speaker 1 Is that happening on game day? Do we know that?

Speaker 3 I thought that earlier. I was like, is Lane going to do it? Like, literally, is he going to go to that yoga class and then make the decision?

Speaker 1 Or how does that work? I genuinely don't know how that works out. Because they kept saying Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, and I assume it'll just be from like a release or something.

Speaker 6 Press conference. Didn't they say he's having a press conference? That's what I heard.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 That'd be cool if we had that press conference on game three.

Speaker 7 I mean, what time does he do?

Speaker 6 Yeah, either run it on game day or just have him come to game day or do it there.

Speaker 1 He's focused on the Egg Bull. Yeah, allegedly.
Well, after the Game Bowl.

Speaker 1 Well, they're all focused on the Egg Bull. That's why they push it to Saturday.
Oh, yeah. I've completely turned.
I know we love laying up here, so I'm going to bite my tongue.

Speaker 1 But what? What are you doing? Bite your tongue?

Speaker 1 What are you going to ask?

Speaker 1 This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever

Speaker 1 seen or witnessed from a

Speaker 1 far. What is he supposed to do?

Speaker 1 He's supposed to sign the damn contract. He's supposed to at least come out and say something.
This is more ridiculous than free my boy BK. And that's saying something.

Speaker 1 What is he supposed to do, actually? What do you think he is actually supposed to do in the middle of a college football season? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know what he's supposed to do, but I know there's not supposed to be some hoopla around it

Speaker 1 the entire year. I think Lane Giffen, there's always going to be hoopla.
But to your point, I think we should have had an answer by now.

Speaker 1 But like, what if he actually has not had the opportunity to learn everything about focus potential decisions?

Speaker 6 What if they haven't offered him an extension yet?

Speaker 6 Do we know if they've offered him an extension yet?

Speaker 1 And he should leave. Then Then he should leave, exactly.

Speaker 1 But if he leaves, then what happens? Like, this is the best his teams have ever done. No, I agree.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, if Ole Mist hasn't shown faith after what he's done this year and offered him a massive new contract extension, if they haven't done that yet, then if he leaves, the fan base can't say a damn thing.

Speaker 1 Theo said that they're selling family recipes to try to feed the

Speaker 1 Grove Collective down there. He said they're selling off heirlooms and antiques to try to feed the NIO, which might be a part of the problem.

Speaker 1 But on that note, it's like if the money is all the same, which we don't know if it is, we have no idea if it is.

Speaker 1 The difference would be the recruiting, I guess, is the angle that everybody's talking about.

Speaker 1 It's like in Louisiana, you got guys that just want to go to LSU who are going to be better football players than anybody around old miss that just wants to go to old miss. Florida, same exact thing.

Speaker 1 I guess there's Florida boys that want to go to Florida and have wanted to go to Florida since their parents went to Florida or their dad was a Florida fan or mom was a Florida fan or older brother played for Florida or teammate play like anything.

Speaker 1 There's this, that happens, I guess, is like the big selling pitch is like, hey, these two schools have your draft basically, your recruiting pipeline taken care of.

Speaker 1 So whenever you want to do the transfer portal, which you're very good at, you don't have to necessarily rely on your whole team being transferred portaled in every single year because obviously that's a roll of the dice.

Speaker 1 We've seen Florida State go from literally penthouse to outhouse with one transfer portal class and they still trying to get out of that whole thing.

Speaker 1 So, I guess that's the advantage of the other side. But the other side of it is like

Speaker 1 that city might be named after you, like Lane Kiffens, Oxford Mission.

Speaker 6 That's probably why it's a tough situation. That's probably why

Speaker 6 he needs some time to figure this out. Like, hey, this is a giant opportunity I have no matter what I do.

Speaker 7 Like, yeah, give me a couple days, I guess.

Speaker 1 And we have the number six team in the country right now. Like, we are a very fucking good football team.
This is the best team that I've ever had. We're going to the play.

Speaker 1 I've never, like, we are, this is the best chance that any of my teams that I have been a head coach have of going on a run right now?

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, he's put into a predicament where it's like, Yeah, well, we need to find out if you want to go live in another place, what the recruiting is like in another place, what a transfer portal is like in another place.

Speaker 1 And oh, yeah, you got to do that before all this because the transfer portal placement really screws you over in this whole thing. And I'm trying to beat Miss Sip State.

Speaker 1 They got the cowbells down there, it's very, very loud. That's all.

Speaker 1 Well, we don't care about that because if you're going to coach somewhere else, we don't even, we don't want you to be Mississippi State.

Speaker 1 We actually want you to be an ass coach, but it would be bad for us. Yeah, but you're going to take all our players if you leave.

Speaker 1 It's just, I don't know how you're supposed to, I genuinely don't know what the right answer is. And obviously, I chat with Lane a little bit.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't, I don't think we're, like, Theo and Lane, very close. Like, I think Theo and Lane have...
Gamers Hotel.

Speaker 6 You say Gamers Hotel Room, yeah.

Speaker 1 And his juice boxes. Yeah, juice boxes, a little apple juices up there for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they had good night sausages or whatever the case was. But yeah, like, I think there's a lot of different angles this could go.
Because I guess in old college ball theory,

Speaker 1 you would know this. You get an opportunity to go coach at LSU or or Florida, you go.
Like, that is kind of like old school college football thought is, I think, is like the natural

Speaker 1 belief in it all. Like Virginia Tech getting James Franklin, I thought was huge.
Gigantic. I'm like, holy hell.
Really big. Yeah, it's huge.
Really big.

Speaker 1 And nobody expected Virginia Tech to, like, James Franklin's available. Oh, he must be going to Florida then, maybe.
Maybe James Franklin goes to Florida a job or whatever.

Speaker 1 And then it's like, well, Florida's going to wait for Lane. And then it's like, actually, James Franklin and Virginia Tech are like, Virginia Tech?

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden we're like, well, BA's in there negotiating for this entire fucking thing can't tell us anything because he signed an NDA told us that 10 times to get himself out of having to tell us anything I think it was a good play by you because you're in front of a microphone every single week with us but James Franklin going to Virginia Tech is not the normal move either like James Franklin I think in this coaching cycle highly sought after you would assume he would go to a bigger job in theory but it's like Virginia Tech is backing him Virginia Tech financially behind him Virginia Tech ready for it James Franklin heard everything he wanted it's like if Lane hears everything from ole miss that's like hey, we're with you.

Speaker 1 We're in it. The only thing you're going to have to get past is the recruiting and the stress every single year that you're potentially going to have to rebuild this thing.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, how do you make that decision? I guess you go to a 6 a.m. yoga and you try to figure it out.
Let's get back to Robert. Good luck, Lane.
Great spot to be in. Good luck, Lane.

Speaker 1 Great spot.

Speaker 1 Great spot.

Speaker 1 He's in a great spot, but inevitably, he's going to make a decision that's going to piss off so many people. Oh, for sure.
He's staring at that.

Speaker 4 Even the other coaches, because once that he's the biggest domino, once that fall, I'm sure he's getting calls from even other coaches. Like, hey, what you going to do?

Speaker 4 Like, make a decision, make a call. So thank God he's doing the yoga and he's locked into his book and kind of staying in it, you know, one day at a time as much as he can.

Speaker 4 He has an agent, I'm sure, that's handling all of that business. But it's a good spot to be in.

Speaker 4 Shit, he's getting ready for the biggest robbery game, getting ready for a playoff point. Hopefully.
So it's tough for him.

Speaker 1 I mean, how would you know? Like, legitimately, we have been talking about Lane Kiffin for a month.

Speaker 1 We haven't really talked about the team. And I get we've talked about Trinidad, Winnedad, and Lacey because he wheels them out behind him.
But like, we really haven't talked about the team.

Speaker 1 When the college football comes,

Speaker 1 great distraction. When the college football playoff comes out tonight, guess what we're going to talk about when we see Ole Miss's name up there? Well, is Lane going to be there? Like, I get it.

Speaker 1 I'm just done with it. You know what they're going to do tonight, too? They're definitely going to read that fourth clause.
For sure. They're definitely going to read it.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure everybody kind of understands. That's a good ball coach.
That CFP commissioner. They could certainly deduct Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 If they don't think Lane Kiffin's going to be coaching for him, it's right there in the bylaws. Hey, if you don't have Jordan Travis anymore, you cannot go.

Speaker 1 And then also, if you don't have Lane Kiffin, you can't go. We're allowed to say you can't go.
It's in the bylaws.

Speaker 1 That's going to be a big talking point, which is then going to lead to the old missed people going, yeah, well, you need to answer.

Speaker 1 If you're calling a press conference, like, okay, so do you know because you are calling a press conference to make it a bigger deal when you announce?

Speaker 1 Or are you calling a press conference because then you're setting your own deadline in your head that I got to know by then? I'm thinking. that he did not make, didn't want to make a decision.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking that there was a lot of people that probably wanted him to make a decision.

Speaker 1 That's why he wanted to come on and say, like, there's been no ultimatum made because I think he didn't want to have to think about that. I would rather not think about it.
The decision is made.

Speaker 1 I don't think. Which makes...

Speaker 1 I think he's... I don't think he's made his decision.

Speaker 4 Oh, you know him. Obviously, I don't know him.
I think the decision is made.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And there's people that say, like, I know what's going to happen. And he could certainly say that.
This is Lane Kifer.

Speaker 1 And that's why if you're an old Miss fan, if you don't think the decision has been made yet, like, that terrifies you. Absolutely terrifies you.
because then

Speaker 1 like what happens in the egg bowl could completely shift what whatever the decision is i mean which definitely i mean you know like yeah it's like because you lose that game and everybody wants to run you out of town exactly

Speaker 1 90 million makes that

Speaker 1 yeah exactly that's the make it easy yeah but if he's planning on staying yeah they'd better win by 45

Speaker 6 even if it's close maybe that's all it is you lose hey they're gonna kick me out anyway see you everyone no one's mad hey if we win congrats i saw an extension here we go What do he say?

Speaker 1 One loss drops you out of the top 10. Two losses drops you out of the top 20.
Three losses loses you your job. Get you five.
That's what he said. So

Speaker 1 maybe he is thinking, like,

Speaker 1 can we just see what happens? I mean, this decision might get made by the Bulldogs here in the Egg Bowl. But also, I don't think he wanted to make a decision.
I think he wanted to.

Speaker 1 I think, obviously, he's repped by Jimmy Sexton and the big deluxe is certainly getting all the big numbers in the information. Like, if it was possible, just I'm, I haven't talked to Lane.

Speaker 1 Lane's focused on ball, but if it was to have, what could it look like? You know, is what Jimmy's saying.

Speaker 1 So, whenever you see these reports, like LSU is gearing up to make a blah, blah, blah offer, or Florida is making up, and they're like, Why is he listening?

Speaker 1 It's like, it's not Lane that's calling him saying, Hey,

Speaker 1 so what would the negotiation? This is, there's a man who's very good at his job. Oh, yeah, maybe GOAT

Speaker 1 when it's all said and done. And he hasn't changed a lick since he was, I mean, he's the exact same big deluxe.
I mean, this son of a bitch is special.

Speaker 1 He is obviously a great businessman, which is why he has so much influence, which some people say, is that even legal?

Speaker 1 Is that even he is?

Speaker 6 To represent all of them. Represent a good chunk of coaches and some players, obviously, right?

Speaker 1 He's a weapon.

Speaker 1 You know, but when you represent a bunch of coaches, everybody talks about like, well, he's able to kind of, it's like, well, you also got these guys like pissed off at him if he's not doing his job.

Speaker 1 So he's been able to balance basically, he's great business. Jimmy Sexton.

Speaker 6 The fact that you're going to balance all those big-time head coaches, and that is, think how difficult that must be because they all want the jobs that are open.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Sexton's a dog. Okay.
He's absolutely a dog. But people that think Lane Kiffin is reaching out to LSU or Florida and negotiating with him, he's like, that's not happening.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Sexton's saying, hey, if this guy who I also represent was to be your coach, what would it look like?

Speaker 1 If Lane wanted to come, I'm not saying he does, but if he did want to come, what would that look like? And then I would assume.

Speaker 1 Yeah, after the Egg Bowl, I'll say. I'll assume after the Egg Bowl, Jimmy Sexton comes.
Jimmy Sexton has a big platter, and he says, here's basically all our options. Got three contracts for you.

Speaker 1 Here's what we're thinking. The governor, Jeff Landry, wanted you to know this.
You can also go on Gator hunt, he says. And you get all this stuff.
Florida governor,

Speaker 1 he's not happy about the way Florida's going in. He said he can go on a Gator hunt there, too.

Speaker 1 So we got two Gator hunts, and then Old Miss here, Yoga Studio, said they will actually give you 15% of the company. So that is what Jimmy is doing.
That is his job.

Speaker 1 But he's not just doing it for Lane. He's doing it for all the other guys too, just in case.

Speaker 1 So I think there's a lot of conflicting stories about what lane's paying attention to what he's not paying attention to and it's like i genuinely don't think he wanted to make a decision which is why he wanted to be like hey old miss never told me i need to make a decision right now i think he's trying to push it as far as possible and then i think the earliest that anybody would accept which is why i think you saw the chancellor put out a message is like day after egg bowl then like

Speaker 1 We got to know which is an ultimatum then? Yes, but I don't think that was put in place at that time. Like at that time, I don't think the ultimatum was put in place.

Speaker 1 Then I think Lane met with them and I think they were like, he was like, I just don't want to, that's not what I want to focus on. That's a lot of things.
There's a lot of things.

Speaker 1 Like there's so many things to think on. I'd rather just focus on ball right now.
And they're like, well, we need an answer. We'll get after the Egg Bowl.
And then you're like, sweet. Saturday.

Speaker 1 Sounds good. Because I think the chancellor put out a message.
I was like, we are very committed to Lane Kiffin, getting a good win in the Egg Bowl. And then Saturday, we will be learning.

Speaker 1 It's like, I think that was a negotiation on when decision was going to be made, if I had to guess. So I think Lane was trying to push it off as far as possible.

Speaker 1 They They were probably trying to speed it up as much as possible. So the day after this game is when we will do this, then I think is what they came to an agreement on.
And I don't know if Lane does.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Lane knows. What I do know is Rivalry Week is sweet.

Speaker 1 And I do know the old Mississippi State Egg Bowl might have implications on so many different states, so many different stories, so many different college football dreams could certainly be the case.

Speaker 1 But obviously, Ohio State hasn't won in 2,187 days against Michigan, Georgia, Georgia Tech. You know, Georgia Tech loses the pit last week.
Crazy. Now this game matters a lot for Georgia Tech.

Speaker 1 And obviously, Georgia has looked like one of the top teams in the entire country. I was in Eugene last week, and they hate Washington up there.
They hate Washington up there.

Speaker 1 Shout out to them, obviously. And then Alabama, Auburn has massive implications for an Alabama team that cannot lose a game.
Now, there's a game that a lot of people have not been talking about.

Speaker 1 When it comes to rivalries, but boy, the two schools involved certainly have. Let's go to last night after George Kittle's big Monday night football performance with Scott Vampell.

Speaker 15 Let's have some fun on the way out here. My producer is in Iowa, Grad,

Speaker 15 and I know that there's my favorite thing this week is how many incredible games there are. There's a Nooner in Lincoln.

Speaker 15 You never lost there.

Speaker 1 You know, there's a guy that's

Speaker 15 got a burgeoning media career that's busting with the boys and all that. He's in Nebraska.
I don't know how he's doing after what happened in State College.

Speaker 15 I don't know if you want to address him directly or this floor is yours as it relates to Iowa Nebraska

Speaker 16 hey Will Compton didn't really appreciate your voice memo on the day of my Monday night football game talking crap to me about Nebraska Iowa didn't settle with me you know what I didn't like it and you know that's just that's the type of thing Nebraska does they take cheap shots you know hey I'm preparing for a Monday night football game on national television and you're coming to me about Nebraska Iowa that means you're scared you're terrified you lost by 30 at Penn State.

Speaker 16 They just fired their coach lost by 30.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 16 I was going to come in there, run the ball down your throat, and there's nothing you can do about it. Sit on the bus that doesn't go anywhere and shut your mouth, Will Compton.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the man who sits on a bus that doesn't go anywhere and has been representing Nebraska louder than anybody that I've ever witnessed.

Speaker 1 From Busting with the Boys and first get up. Sorry, Will Compton.

Speaker 1 Will the boys.

Speaker 1 All right. So you got buried on Sports Center with Scott Van Pellet last night by George Kittle.
I saw your response. Epic.
Just like most things that you do on the internet.

Speaker 1 Iowa, Nebraska, not a lot of people thinking about nationally. What do we need to know? And are you actually confident in Nebraska? And if Iowa beats...

Speaker 1 the living dog shit out of Nebraska, which is possible, are you worried about what old George Kittle might do to you next? Will, you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 7 I think when people talk about this Iowa-Nebraska nebraska game because again this this type of game is for the sickos these are the sickos who love college football there's not going to be a lot of points scored i want to say last year nebraska punted seven times iowa punted nine it's been discard decided in one score or less in the last five years and my confidence never wavers on the big red george wants to sit there number one like iowa guys they can't use their brains george is on national television talking about will he wants to i i don't appreciate this this is a cheap shot he's going on national television can't respond to me directly I'm going to him to talk to him directly.

Speaker 1 Privately, not.

Speaker 7 Privately. He wants to not respond.
He wants to go around and go on national television. Take shots at me when I'm just trying to prepare for some college football on Saturday.

Speaker 7 I'm watching last night. Volume was on eight.
I'm preparing for, I think it was like North Carolina,

Speaker 7 like North Carolina, North Carolina State was where I was in my prep work. Volume was on eight on the TV.

Speaker 7 And then all of a sudden, I hear Scott Van Belt saying, I know you want to talk to your Nebraska friend directly here in a few minutes. And I kind of look over.

Speaker 7 Like, is George about to talk shit on national television?

Speaker 7 He don't respond to my text when I'm trying to go to him man to man he wants to take the cowards away out and go and broadcast it to everybody else but doesn't want to talk to me back and forth that is the Iowa brain at work and he talks about you know we we lost by 30 to Penn State last week little does everybody know that game was meaningless last week you think we ran one scripted play in practice against Penn State no it's all eyes on Iowa hawkeyes because yes we are one and nine on all S10 that is big brother right now but this is big brother who's bleeding they can't even defend their state They can't even defend their state of Iowa.

Speaker 7 They lose to Iowa State. What makes you think they can defend the border? I know Ty Schmidt's sitting there shaking in his boots right now because old Matt Rule, Emma Johnson, and Willie C.

Speaker 7 is going to run wild on the Iowa Hawkeyes this weekend.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 That's all I got. That's the promo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was pretty good. That was pretty good.
I think you should feel good about the delivery. I think you should feel good.
Volume at eight, good idea.

Speaker 1 Even setting the table a little bit, looking over at it. And then obviously the response was epic.
Great promo.

Speaker 1 I'd say George Kittle dropping right into a wrestling promo immediately upon the question being asked was also a special moment in there. I appreciate that Nebraska feels this way about Iowa.

Speaker 1 Does Iowa think about Nebraska? I don't.

Speaker 1 What? No, because they're, I mean, what is the border all about, Will? It turns out it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Will was in, Nebraska wasn't in the Big Ten when you played there, right? You were in the Big 12?

Speaker 7 We were Big 12 for two years and Big Ten for two years. Willie C.
went 2-0 against the Hawaii.

Speaker 1 Exactly, and that's what I was going to say. So I understand that Will, because he did.
He went 2-0 against the Hawks. Willie C.
did, yeah. Yeah, Willie C.
did.

Speaker 1 I mean, Nebraska's 4-10 against Iowa in the last 14. And guess what? Will Compton ain't coming through that door to play on Saturday.
He's not. You know, so that's one thing.
But, you know, I mean,

Speaker 1 like you said, this is,

Speaker 1 am I looking forward to watching this game? No. Like, it's going to be three and a half hours of wanting to rip your goddamn eyeballs out.

Speaker 1 And whoever has the ball last, and, you know, we're probably going to see a 58-yard field goal from one way or the other to decide this game but no i'm not losing any sleep over nebraska because you know why would i we got we got mark gernowski playing quarterback okay agreed dylan raul's you know legs in 55 different pieces who's your returner caden weechin you don't even but but that's the thing you know nebraska's not going to punt to caden weechin they know what he can do and and you know what you think they're going to just blast it out of bounds yeah i do i do because michigan state should have done that last week and they didn't nebraska is the punter that can go uh both ways right he's a righty and a lefty if i recall i i no idea because, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm not paying any attention to Nebraska. And I understand we've had Matt Rule on the show all year.
Good guy. Exactly.
He is a good guy. He is a good guy.
But no, I mean,

Speaker 1 you know, Will, you're from Missouri. That's the show-me state.
Nebraska is going to have to show me something before I'm losing any sleep over that game. Ooh, Willie C., eat that and don't respond.

Speaker 1 We've talked too much about this game already. Let's move along.
You said you were doing your college ball scouting for the weekend. Ohio State, Michigan.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Taylor, the other bussin boy, is a huge Michigan alum, Michigan stud. 2,187 days it's been since Ohio State has beat Michigan.
And obviously, everybody from Ohio thinks about it.

Speaker 1 Everybody from Michigan celebrates it. What are your thoughts on this weekend's matchup?

Speaker 1 And is this the one where the Buckeyes can finally say, ah, we finally beat this team that has been our only kind of spur in our ass over the last decade of dominance for our team?

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 you know, I would have given Michigan no shot before last weekend. They played their best game of ball last weekend.
Bryce Underwood had a stat line.

Speaker 7 The running game's still moving even with their third string running back. They can play salty on defense.

Speaker 7 Dude, Ohio State, you see it from afar. You're an internet guy watching the victory laps, the patting on the head, everything that happens.

Speaker 7 And when they were 20-something point underdogs last year, you know, people talk like, did ego get in the way of Ohio State and they wanted to beat him in a certain way and that kind of, that kind of got in their way and they end up dropping that game to where they're planting flags on the field.

Speaker 7 I mean, you got kids reenacting plays of planting the Michigan flag on Ohio State's field. And, you know, Ryan Day wakes up in a sweat in the middle of the night just thinking about this game.

Speaker 7 Everybody's fired up for this game. The hype, I hope it lives up to expectation.
I think Michigan has a good shot to keep it close, even squeak out a win, get an upset.

Speaker 7 I know that would torture Ohio State fans, but you called me earlier and you gave me a little whisper. I, you know, if we don't, if you cannot put this on the show.

Speaker 1 What? No, no, don't do it. We're live.
We're live.

Speaker 1 If I could just say it quietly.

Speaker 7 I think, I'll say it quietly because we can't let people hear this. I do think Ohio State handles business.

Speaker 7 I think this is where they get the monkey off their back. I hate saying that because I love my boy.
I am riding with Michigan with the points here. But there's a massive opportunity.

Speaker 7 There's a massive opportunity for Ohio State to beat the living hell out of Michigan.

Speaker 7 I just want to see chaos.

Speaker 7 I'm a pro-chaos guy. Just give me chaos 10 times out of 10.
Somebody's a slight underdog. They can kind of disrupt the entire system by getting a win.

Speaker 7 I want to see it happen because I want to see the internet just up in flames at all times. That's what I love about the sport of the internet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the sport of the internet is obviously one that's very intense and active all the time. The sport of color.
Pat, Pat, let me ask you. Are we sitting there?

Speaker 1 This is we're dumping with this. We're dumping.
AJ can't even hear us right now. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I can't hear you.

Speaker 7 I know where AJ's going. Pat, what do you think about this game?

Speaker 7 What do you think about our holiday Michigan?

Speaker 1 I want to let you know, I can't wait to get up to Ann Arbor. I can't wait to get up to Ann Arbor.
Can't wait. Very thankful for all those Ann Arbor students that will hang out with us at 9 a.m.

Speaker 1 on Saturday.

Speaker 1 I will say, the location of our set is always very far away from the stadium, so it's always an interesting thing because we have to hop on golf carts, drive like what is seemingly 10 miles to get to the stadium, and then go inside.

Speaker 1 So it's always a bit chaotic up there, but boy, it's an honor to be amongst all the Ann Arborans and all the great people in Michigan. There's billionaires walking around everywhere.

Speaker 1 Billionaires, kids just going to school. It's a lot of fun.
I think it's going to be a great matchup, Willie C. That's what I think.
I think it's going to be a really good game. That's what I think.

Speaker 7 We got to wait to see what happens when you got that shirt off. By the way, hey, your body, you look good out there with that shirt off.
I know you've been putting in the work.

Speaker 7 I know you've been in the sauna and working out. You look good.

Speaker 1 You look good. Thank you.
We can say that louder though. You don't have to do inside voice for that one.
We're allowed to let other people hear that.

Speaker 1 A lot of good science, Willie C., as you know as well. But the science doesn't work if you don't.
You know, that's

Speaker 1 why I've been told. So, I've been trying to become a better human.
I've been trying to become a better human in it all.

Speaker 1 I wish I could grow a mustache like what you have on your face right now, but I think this game is going to live up to the hype. And I can't wait to get up there to Michigan.

Speaker 1 And everything I said there is true. We do take golf carts like 45 minutes to get to the stadium.
They'll have like Jen Lotta will have a 20-minute piece.

Speaker 1 Then they'll have somebody, Pete Dammo, will maybe break down the entire season for like 15 minutes. And then we get in there into the stadium.

Speaker 1 It's so every, there's there's just humans everywhere though. I mean that's 100 plus thousand.
What's the big house? What is 10 what?

Speaker 1 109 maybe 110 or something. Yeah.
So many fucking people. That is so many human beings at one place, let alone outside of it and around it.
It does feel it's a special place to be. Lucky to be there.

Speaker 1 Hope the game lives up to the hype. All right, let's talk about some other shit happening around the sports world.
Go ahead, Con man. Yeah, well, a lot of Herigo for you.

Speaker 1 You said Joe Burrow was the best quarterback in the NFL when healthy. Finally, he's back on Thanksgiving night versus the Ravens, and his record versus the Ravens is pretty filthy.

Speaker 1 I think he's got like 21 touchdowns, five picks. He's averaging like 300 yards a game versus him.
What do you think about the Bengals? Do you think they're going to make a run at it here?

Speaker 1 Maybe come back a little bit? They're banged up very much so. T.
Higgins out. Jamar Chase back from the spit.
Do you think that Cincey can make a run here?

Speaker 7 Jamar Chase back from the spit. Joe Burrow back from injury.
Do those things make the defense play better? I don't know. I don't think so.
Like, if Joe Burrow's out on the field

Speaker 7 under center, does that mean the second effort there against old big boy from the Steelers a couple weeks ago, is he actually going to throw his face in the fan instead of kind of coddle up and fold when the lights get on him?

Speaker 7 I have no clue. I like him this week against the Ravens.
I like some chaos. They won't go on a run because, again, their defense is brutal.

Speaker 7 But I would love to see Joey B light it up first game back, like a month ahead of schedule with his injury, especially a turf toe.

Speaker 7 Like anybody who's had turf toe, know that's a tough injury to come back from. And he got under the, he got under the scope with it, too.
He had to get surgery.

Speaker 7 But I like Joey B this weekend against the Ravens.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about the Bengals as a whole.

Speaker 1 When they put their team together the way they did and spent the money that they spent, did you think to yourself, oh, that's how teams that have won football games have done it in the past?

Speaker 1 Do you think they'll ever be able to win?

Speaker 7 So much money on a few offensive players. Like, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 That's a shame, isn't it? That's a shame. We all kind of game.

Speaker 7 It's a shame. It's a shame.
It's like you kind of see you know, teams that try and do that.

Speaker 1 What's up? George is calling. Oh, we got, we got it.
We got it. Yep.
Yep, absolutely. Back to Rivalry Week.
Here we are.

Speaker 7 Listen, George.

Speaker 1 We're live. We're live.
We're live. We're live.

Speaker 7 We're live right now. Can you say hello? Can you wait?

Speaker 1 Hey, congrats on big night last night, George.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Go Hawks.
Go Hawks.

Speaker 6 And you're just taking cheap shots again?

Speaker 7 Okay, Cheap Shot guy.

Speaker 7 this is the first time you've been face-to-face with me because i tried face timing you yesterday and you took the cowards away out

Speaker 7 you're it's early in the morning when i face timed you you had all day long to respond to your boy but you want to go like hey hey scott van pelt like let me go on your show and talk to willie c like we know we see everybody sees that you're rattled right now You don't get to go on Scott Van Pelt.

Speaker 6 You get asked to go on Scott Van Pelt. I don't know if you've ever been on Scott Van Pelt, but it's an honor to work with that legend.
You probably, you called Pat to get on his show, didn't you?

Speaker 1 No, Patty. no, no, no.
Don't call me.

Speaker 1 Don't disrespect me right now, George.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to keep my head above water.

Speaker 6 I hate you this week, and I'm going to hug you next week.

Speaker 1 I love you.

Speaker 1 Take care of yourself. Hate me now.
Love me later. Love that.
Amen. Love everything about that.

Speaker 1 You said it. All right.
We just talked about the Bangladesh obviously having a recipe for success, which we all certainly know. I'm happy that happened.
I'm happy you guys are that tight, by the way.

Speaker 1 That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 I don't know who posted this photo. It's messed up.
I don't like this. Oh, yeah, come on, Photoshop, man.

Speaker 1 AI's crazy, man. That looks real.
That looks real.

Speaker 1 You're good. Yeah, you look.
Wait, is that? Are you on the same science as me, bro?

Speaker 7 Hey, I don't know if I'm putting the same science in my body as you. I need to get on that plane.
I need to hit you up on the side. Like, hey,

Speaker 7 what do we got going here? Something soft right now.

Speaker 1 The affinity people are good people. You need to know that the affinity people are good people.
Let's talk about great people. There has been a semifinals list put out about the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Debu.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Well, let's see, I got to put you on the spot here, too.
Played a long, long time in the league, nine years. Not sure where we're at with year 10, if that's still up in the air.

Speaker 4 But I got to get you to pick five of these guys that's going to get into the Hall of Fame. Not sure if you can see the names up here.

Speaker 4 I know a couple for me, teammate Vinny, Robert Mathis, Larry Fischer, obviously first ballot, Drew. He's probably first ballot.
Luke Keekly, but those are probably my five, I think, off the top.

Speaker 4 Who do you think is going to get in this year with this finalist list?

Speaker 7 Oh, what a spot to be in right here.

Speaker 7 I can kind of read half of the list. Luke Keekly, like that to me, Luke Keekly, no matter what.

Speaker 7 That was my king growing up, along with you too, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 7 Of course, dude, we're talking about the Hall of Fame. All these guys are great.
You ask me on any given day, any time of the day, I'm like, yeah, that dude, he seems like a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 7 I have absolutely no clue who should get into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Drew Brees, hell of a player. Phillip Rivers, Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Witten, Luke Keekly,

Speaker 7 Rodney Harrison. Dude, I have no clue.
That's above my pay grade.

Speaker 7 I never played at a level to where I could even flirt with the idea of the Hall of Fame, even though my five years will be coming up here very shortly. Okay.
That'll be talked about, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 7 But I have no clue.

Speaker 1 I have no clue.

Speaker 7 They all deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 You never know if you'd be a Hoffnom, brother. You never know to be a Hoffnom.
You're not. Never know.
I'm a three-time Hoff Nom. I think they felt obligated strictly because I'm on a microphone.

Speaker 1 Now, talking about that, one of the Hoffnoms this year was Mr. A.J.
Hawk.

Speaker 1 A.J. Hawk, get back to the semifinals, but we'll get there next year.

Speaker 1 We'll get there next year, AJ. And obviously, anytime your name is associated with any of this, it's special.
And I think we all hold the Hall of Fame in such high regard.

Speaker 1 I think it's one of those things that every player has respect for.

Speaker 1 And whenever you watch these greats have emotional moments, whenever they're told that they're going to live on forever in the hall, it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 Impossible task figuring out who deserves to go in and who doesn't deserve to go in because it's like Phil Rivers.

Speaker 1 Phil Rivers was like a starting quarterback in the NFL, a very good one for 20-some years or whatever the case is. What did he win? What did he win? It's like a lot of games.

Speaker 1 No, that's why I'm asking. I'm not asking about that.
I'm asking, well, Super Bowl. And then you skipped right over one person, you were reading that graphic, skipped over Eli Manning.
Willie C. did.

Speaker 1 Willie C. just skipped right over Eli Manning.
Go ahead.

Speaker 7 That was an intentional, Eli.

Speaker 7 I'm on the show right now for my phone.

Speaker 1 So the ones that are bolded, those are the ones that.

Speaker 1 But that's a whole nother conversation. It's his final record.
What's his final record? And it's like, who cares? He's the alive man. You don't think he should live on forever?

Speaker 1 It's like, Bruce, how do you view the Hall of Fame? Obviously, you've been around a long time. Your name's going to be up for it.

Speaker 1 You're going to be in conversations about it for the rest of your life, whether you're in it or talking about going in it, which seemingly becomes a thing.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on the Hall of Fame and how it should kind of be handled?

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's the ultimate. I mean, when you, when you, I've sat in that crowd now for like four or five years because I've had a guy go in the last four or five years and it's just amazing.
What a day.

Speaker 5 And, you know, to see the families and everybody there.

Speaker 5 obviously Ronde Barber was my last one and and he's like my nephew so yeah it's it's a Hall of Fame is that's it how about them voting what do you think the thoughts are yeah to me that's when those guys get in there and start fighting it out you got to have a hell of a guy representing you I have found that out if you've got a meek mild guy that's your reporter that's you ain't getting in I said that for a while yeah you got to have a dog gotta have a dog in there fighting so we had we've had a guy who I think everybody has respect for obviously his name now is on the

Speaker 1 media room or whatever. The journalist super duper area at the Colts facility and everything like that.
And obviously I have respect for him a lot. But it took Dwight Freeney a long time to get in.

Speaker 1 And it's like,

Speaker 1 how is this even a case? And then I started hearing the same thing you're hearing. Well, at the table, the person representing has got to fight for it.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, that guy doesn't really like me. He put me on the...

Speaker 1 That guy put me as like the third team punter for the Colts whenever he put the Colts together. And I'm like, he's the one that's in there.
I mean, fuck me. I don't deserve to go in there.

Speaker 1 But like anybody else that he potentially has like just a little bit of slight against, it's like he's the one representing the entire, I don't know how that, that's a scary situation.

Speaker 1 Maybe we need to reevaluate how these decisions are made

Speaker 1 for all things, Willie C. Maybe we just have future hofnoms like Willie C get the pen and start sending people in.
Maybe that's what we need to do.

Speaker 6 I would love that.

Speaker 7 Whether it's Heisman voting, Hall of Fame voting, I would love to be part of all that stuff. Give me a pen and paper and I'll let something rip.

Speaker 1 I love that. Any NFL stories we should talk about that you are really keen on?

Speaker 7 You won't like this one, but I, again, pro-chaos.

Speaker 7 Would love to see some chaos in the AFC South. I'd love to see there's an opportunity for the Houston Texans and all the momentum that they have to beat the Colts this weekend.

Speaker 7 I'm not saying it's going to happen. I just think Colts drop one again.
A little bit of doubt coming in the locker room a little bit. Texans on an absolute heater.

Speaker 7 If the Jaguars take care of business this weekend, you got three teams there in the AFC South that, again, AFC South, nobody really talked about division, that division, like as the season started to unfold.

Speaker 7 But then you got three teams right now who'd be one game away from each other. And dude, I've been taking beating after beating for my Chiefs, my Chiefs take last week because I had the Colts.

Speaker 7 I had Danny Jones just being the guy to take down the dynasty. And yeah, you saw one right there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would have been nice if we put him away, okay? And it looked easy early. But to your point about the AFC South Field, Yates just kind of put this tweet out.

Speaker 1 Colts play the Jags and Texans twice in the final six weeks. So you talk about chaos.
It's very available. Now, the Tennessee Titans seemingly not even existing.

Speaker 1 Cam Ward can make a couple throws very, very well. Can they put anything around him that he's going to have a great football career? TBD, for sure.

Speaker 1 But the other three teams, to your point, really taking off. Really taking off.
And the Chiefs might still be the Chiefs, brother. We're just not 100% sure yet.
No.

Speaker 7 Listen, they won a game. They won at Arrowhead.
The Chiefs, they're not still the Chiefs. The dynasty will fall.
It just hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know you're a hater.

Speaker 1 You're a Chiefs hater?

Speaker 7 you don't know listen i i appreciate greatness i respect greatness whenever their dock comes out for the chiefs whenever that whole dynasty doc you series comes out i will be right there on opening night because i love everything that they've ever done but you know i like that little bit of fun on the internet it feels like the chiefs fans you can kind of you can kind of rattle them a lot of the times and so um i always appreciate a good little banter back and forth on the internet okay so you're all right i respect what you're doing here troll yeah just completely just a little bit of chaos lane theo vaughn just said lane kiffin's trolling somebody we just don't know who it is yeah he said every tweet he puts out is some scavenger hunt into his mind and it's like that's not a place you want to be who knows where he's going what do you think about lane's situation

Speaker 7 dude lane has such an opportunity to be the biggest hero of all time or the biggest villain of all time the way he kind of maneuvered i again he he says he doesn't know what he wants to do a lot of me just believes this dude might just be making a decision on friday or Saturday.

Speaker 7 But dude, if they win this Egg Bowl and he comes out and says he's staying at Ole Miss, like me, I would love to see him go as far as maybe he's telling LSU in Florida that he's coming.

Speaker 7 Like when the game ends, he's texting them like, hey, you know, these are going to be one of my spots, gets Florida and LSU to believe.

Speaker 7 And just at the last second, he announces that he's staying at Ole Miss, tries to

Speaker 7 take shots at his competition by dragging him along this entire process and just stay home with Ole Miss. He would would be the biggest hero of all time.

Speaker 7 But I'm telling you right now, if he leaves and he break, he would be ripping the heart out of the chest of ole miss and they would hate him so much because it would have went down in such an ugly way.

Speaker 7 I'm hopeful that he stays. Because again, ole miss puts out their thing, hey,

Speaker 7 an announcement's gonna be made after the egg bowl. Then something leaks on Sunday, like LSU's prepared to offer 90 million, 100 million, a billion dollars to Lane Kiffen.

Speaker 7 Seems like, hey, he might be leaning that way. I hope it's just all a drag-along troll sesh.
He's trying to hurt the competition, and ultimately he stays home at Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 All right. I think a lot of people are saying the same thing.
I wonder if he's listening or if he's already made up his mind like D-Buds.

Speaker 4 He's already made up his mind.

Speaker 1 And we kind of know. No, we know.
We know.

Speaker 6 AJ's.

Speaker 6 He's out of there.

Speaker 1 I know. What?

Speaker 4 Tate told everybody he knows.

Speaker 6 They can't be too mad.

Speaker 1 Fans can't be too mad.

Speaker 6 That's how it works. That's how the game works.

Speaker 6 Got it. Hey, Will, I want to ask you quickly about chaos.
You talk about that. Well, first off, a two-part question.

Speaker 6 Vrable, are you surprised how quickly I guess he's like, the culture has got into the New England Patriots and how good they are? And second part, would you rather get punched in the balls or spit on?

Speaker 6 Good question. On the football field, that is.
Great question.

Speaker 7 To answer the second question, I'd rather get punched in the balls than spit on.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Vrable,

Speaker 7 I'm not surprised. Like, you just see the way this team's operated, the culture that's been like leaking into that team.
Like Stephon Diggs is fired up at Jay Games. You got Henry the tight end.

Speaker 7 Drake May. You have all these hot mic moments with Vrabel and the way that everybody's kind of talking to each other, the leadership that goes on.
And Drake May is just a superstar right now.

Speaker 7 The dude, he operates well in the pockets, super poised. It never seems like he gets rattled whatsoever.
Always seems like to have the perfect touch on the football.

Speaker 7 New England, man, they've been, I'm surprised that they are this far ahead in the rebuild. I know people hate to hear the term rebuild and everything like that.

Speaker 7 But dude, it looks like they're going to win that division. I still haven't win the division.
It's easier to say now. I was talking about them upsetting the bills back in September, I believe it was.

Speaker 7 But they're in a prime spot, dude. They're going to be competing for the one seat in the AFC, which is nuts to think about.

Speaker 7 Like you talked about before the season, it'd be what, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. Who's going to get the one seat in the playoffs this year? Those four quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 And now we're sitting here. It's the Broncos and the New England Patriots.
We're talking about Bo Nicks and Drake May who's going to get the one seat in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 And Danny Jones and Danny Jones. Jesus.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. But they dropped.

Speaker 7 I'm just saying the two-lost teams right now, it's the Broncos and the Peachers.

Speaker 1 I understand you had the Colts beating the Chiefs this past weekend, so you looked bad publicly. So you got to hold it against us all of a sudden.
Just know we still have Jonathan Taylor, okay?

Speaker 1 And maybe he wasn't able to run for shit against the Chiefs in Kansas City on grass, which people are starting to talk about. In outdoor stadiums on grass.
Off a bar.

Speaker 1 We're back in the loud house this weekend. Just look for us to turn it up.
Are you guys playing? Good team. A A pretty good team.

Speaker 1 Tough defense, aren't we? Pretty good defense, yeah. Don't you worry about the Houston Texans.
Oh, I'm not. I'm not worried about anybody unless you're at the top, baby.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Willie C., we appreciate you, man. Good luck on all your chaos everywhere you go.

Speaker 7 All right, boys. Love you.
Thanks for having me on, Pat.

Speaker 1 You too, man. What's the final score?

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Happy Thanksgiving, man.

Speaker 1 Doing it, bro.

Speaker 1 All right, let's pivot away from Willie C. football and let's go to BA football.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Tuesday, so that means it's time for BS or no BS with BA.

Speaker 1 Now, BA, obviously, this has become one of our favorite segments of the week because you, a Matt, with 47 years of football coaching experience, tell us if a narrative or a quote that is being mentioned publicly is either BS or no BS in your eyes.

Speaker 1 Let's get to the first one. Christian McCaffrey leads the NFL in receptions, carries, and broken tackles.
He needs to be in the MVP conversation. Is that BS or no BS, BA?

Speaker 5 No, that's no BS. Definitely.

Speaker 5 I mean, what he's doing right now, any tag, I always say, when you put your name in history of the NFL, he's got a chance for a thousand and a thousand, the only guy to ever do it twice.

Speaker 5 And, you know, after watching that game the other night, last night, he's going to get the ball enough. He's going to hope his legs can hold up.

Speaker 1 Everybody's talking about Jonathan Taylor being the running back that would be in the MVP conversation. Bijan Robinson had a conversation a little bit earlier.

Speaker 1 Christian McCaffrey hasn't really been a part of this convo really yet until what, I think, today, today, whenever these stats started coming out. Has this been a Christian McCaffrey like year?

Speaker 1 Like, obviously, he's getting the ball as much as he is. Is he going to be able to finish? And is this Niners team go as he goes, obviously?

Speaker 5 Totally. That offense is, he is the offense.

Speaker 1 So he is valuable.

Speaker 5 He's the offense. He and George Kittle.
And George Kittle comes off of all the fakes to Christian McCaffrey, you know? And so it's, this guy is amazing to me.

Speaker 5 Everybody thought he was too small coming out. The dude's a horse now.

Speaker 1 He is an absolute horse. That band workout, AJ, I don't know if you saw it.
They showed him,

Speaker 1 he had a guy holding a band, strength coach holding a gray band, thick band

Speaker 1 holding it, and then he was just warming up. And it was just, I was like, golly, it was hard not to just notice that the dude's bottom half is a horse.
This guy's an actual stallion.

Speaker 1 And he has to be, I guess, because of how many times he gets the ball, how hard he runs, how explosive he is, how many hits he takes.

Speaker 1 Everything about him is like tough football player, which is why we've lost him a few different times to different injuries. And it's like riding Christian McCaffrey is certainly electrifying.

Speaker 1 I hope he can finish. And can they be another team that is a running back-led team through the playoffs, AJ?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think they can just because how versatile he is. He's legit a receiver and a running back for you.

Speaker 6 He gives, trust me, there's linebackers all over the league that are terrified that they're going to have to cover him out of the backfield.

Speaker 6 I just hope like right here, like when D lineman retrace and those are those big shots that you eat and hopefully those guys don't land on him, those are the only ones I worry about.

Speaker 1 D, but what do you think about Christian McCaffrey's MVP conversation? Because they always say V is for valuable. It's not the most best player.
It's the most valuable player.

Speaker 1 He's going to have the most receptions and the most touches running, maybe in the league. That's pretty valuable.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's insane. I found that out, I think, last night, which most of us did.
He's just leading the league in receptions and carriage, which is nuts.

Speaker 4 The reason he kind of hasn't been in the conversation, I think, up to this point is because he hasn't had that year, especially on the ground where he's averaging like, you know, five or six or seven yards to carry.

Speaker 4 I think he was around like four or less carry-wise, but he gets the ball so much in so many different ways. But he's unbelievable.
He can definitely beat.

Speaker 4 That offense is going to go as 2-3 goes for sure.

Speaker 1 Hembo stat here about him being the NFL leader in a bunch of different stats here. Rush attempts, receptions, touches, yards from scrimmage, you name it.

Speaker 1 So it's like Christian McCaffrey is the San Francisco 49ers offense. And then we got Brock Purdy getting back into form,

Speaker 1 regressing.

Speaker 1 In form.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Okay. Because you didn't have a lot of hope for him early.
No. But Christian McCaffrey in the MVP conversations.
Congrats to CMC. Let's go to the next quote here, B.A.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bruce, with how this Cowboys team is playing right now, if they take care of business on Thanksgiving versus the Chiefs, they will make a run to the playoffs and possibly win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Whoa, is that BS or no BS, BS?

Speaker 5 That's BS, brother.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 5 I'll tell you, if they win five out of six, that tie might get them in because their conference record really is not. They lose all the tiebreakers.
And they are playing really good right now.

Speaker 5 I think the happiest guy in the world right now is is Jerry Jones because everybody's, oh, Jerry did the right thing.

Speaker 5 A hell of a job with Quinn Williams. But Dak's playing good.
The receivers, offense are playing good. I mean, they've got to win them all, in my opinion, or they're going to lose the tiebreaker.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you're saying they have a very, very hard road ahead if they were to make it. Very tough.
So although we all like the way they're playing right now.

Speaker 1 And we might pick them in a lot of these games going forward to win, we think they dug themselves too big of a hole early.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and I think the big one will be at Detroit. You know, I think that's going to be a a huge, huge game.

Speaker 5 Both teams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's primetime next week, too. They got Thanksgiving this week.
And then, you know, you see right there, they got Cowboys at Detroit on Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 1 Now, we will say we're very thankful that the Dallas Cowboys are good at football because they are going to be on primetime television because Jerry Jones is the owner, and that's how it goes.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to see very good football from Dallas Cowboys. It's going to be a classic Cowboys scenario.
Yes. Like good football team just.
Can't make it. They weren't able to catch up.

Speaker 1 All offseason, we're going to say, hey, remember, Dallas Cowboys are a really good football team, even though they didn't make the playoffs. Okay.

Speaker 1 And that's like synonymous with the entertainment level that the Dallas Cowboys are. They are a show more so than a team at this point.
And right now, the show is very good football. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 I think Ty said it earlier in the week. Like, this is truly a win-win for Dallas and Greeb with the moves that they made.

Speaker 4 But the thing I love about the Cowboys, since we know they're going to be on primetime, win or loss, like they're a fun team to watch, especially with Dak is spinning it.

Speaker 4 And then the trade they made for Quentin, obviously he's dominant on the field.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you guys heard it or not, but it was a player after the game who kind of talked about what happened at halftime and kind of how Quinnen kind of took the leadership role.

Speaker 4 And that's, you know, you don't hear that often with a guy who's coming in, you know, six, seven, eight weeks into a season, kind of taking that role.

Speaker 4 And you can tell the team responded, being down 21, divisional opponent, like a big time, pretty much playoff mode right now for the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 So I'm excited to see how this kind of final stretch turns out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think a lot of people saying big bro about Quinn. I think I already have heard that from people around the defense.

Speaker 1 And And I think I heard Quinnen talk about like how it's an interesting role where he's like, I'm a little bit one of the older guys all of a sudden. And I played and I've been in situations.

Speaker 1 And I think his personality lends to people to gravitate towards him. From what I've seen from Quinnen Williams, I don't know him personally.
And Jerry obviously brings in a guy who's now a

Speaker 1 magnet of positive energy and experience. And they're setting that D line.
up in the middle for everything that Jerry Jones has been talking about.

Speaker 1 You talk about him being the happiest guy because he's moved. George Pickens wasn't on this team before the season started.
He's now on their team with a big-time move.

Speaker 1 But also, he might have hit that $100 billion honey hole.

Speaker 1 We still have yet to get an update on that honey hole that he was kind of eyeballing that at $100 billion.

Speaker 1 The reason why I'm talking to you, Wall Street Journal, and not worrying about the Dallas Cowboys defense, it's because there is, from my understanding, $100 billion in natural gas three miles down.

Speaker 1 Nobody's able to get three miles down. I'm putting a billion dollars up to try to get these pops to get down three miles to get $100 billion in natural gas.

Speaker 1 That was four weeks ago now he's back at the games sitting in the suite did this son of a bitch get the three miles deep and find a hundred billion while also figuring out a football team well i would say you could argue that it might be the other way around he went down there and it was just a septic tank that was pumping shit and he was like oh fuck now i gotta go make a couple trades and and shore up this defense oh this is not good people are gonna kill me i think that probably lends itself for it because now he is all in on the cowboys because guess what he doesn't have a hundred billion dollars down there i do not know what this exactly means that Bruce is showing me, but some stock is up and to the right.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're bumping. We're bumping.
We're up and to the right. 40% of this.
Oh, it just went up. Yeah,

Speaker 1 okay. All right.
So Jerry's living very good, is what you're saying. And his team looks good.
Who knows if they'll be able to make the playoffs with how deep of a hole they dug themselves in earlier.

Speaker 1 All right, let's go to the last BS or no BS with BA. Yeah, Coach, Drake May, Mike Vrabel, and the New England Patriots are an absolute wagon and will be the number one seed in the AFC.
And

Speaker 1 Stafford, McVay, Devontae, Puka, and a young defense, full of dogs, will be the number one seed in the NFC. Is that BS or no BS, man? And that's both sports.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 That is no BS. Both these teams are rolling.

Speaker 1 What? That's two different quotes. Okay.
Wow.

Speaker 1 That's a big deal. It's a history.

Speaker 1 Wow. Holy shit.

Speaker 5 What Vrabel's done in New England and Drake May is playing lights out. And when you talk about these young quarterbacks, you got to be able to play from the pocket.
He can play from the pocket.

Speaker 5 And then Matthew Stafford, the fountain of youth, and then that defense is legit.

Speaker 1 Young defense forward dog is how we described it. It feels like they really came together last year.
Towards the end, they took the Eagles to the limit in the snow.

Speaker 1 One incompletion or one sack away from beating the Eagles, obviously, and maybe becoming Super Bowl champions yet again. Puka Nakua is untackleable whenever he gets a rock, BA.

Speaker 5 Oh, he's a big, strong, active guy, and then they do such great things. You know, the one thing Sean always does, his receivers block.

Speaker 5 I mean, they block, and they're really good blockers, and it sets up so much of that underneath stuff that Puka and those guys just, they're running after catch guys.

Speaker 1 Tell me about Devontae Adams on the goal line. He has more one-yard touchdowns in the history of the NFL than anybody else at 15.
They've seemingly found a cheat code.

Speaker 1 Instead of the tush push, we'll just put Devontae out there on an island and let him have a two-way go.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he has a two-way go and then probably that little eye contact if I'm going in or out. And, And, you know, Mike Evans has had that for a long time.
He had it with Tom Brady, and it was like...

Speaker 1 Bronk had it. Just, hey,

Speaker 5 whatever technique he's playing, I'm going the other way.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 Block them all up. I'm going to win.
And Devontae's been doing it for a long time. He had it with Aaron Rodgers forever.

Speaker 1 And Stafford's not going to miss. No.
No. Not at all.
B.A., your classic quote is, Stafford, only guy go out to watch throwing warm-up.

Speaker 5 Unbelievable, man. His arm is, and he still got it.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 he went into that trailer. Yeah.
Came Came out throwing it better. That was BS or no BS with B.A.
We appreciate you, B.A.

Speaker 1 Show will roll on digitally here.

Speaker 1 You know, we're lucky to be able to do this for a living. It's on these particular days where we get in the dumbest conversations where I really wonder why anybody watches.

Speaker 1 But we certainly are very appreciative that they do, AJ. Isn't that right?

Speaker 6 Absolutely, 100%.

Speaker 1 And there's not really a time to ever tell people like, hey, you work your ass off. You should spend money on stuff that we are selling because that's just very rude.

Speaker 1 Everybody understands how we're doing as a company, where we're at now versus where we were.

Speaker 1 But we currently have a 25% off sale happening at store.patmatviewshow.com because we're in meaningful football season. Exactly.
We're in meaningful football season. So 25% off the whole store.

Speaker 1 Do not feel obligated. We are okay as a business.
But if you would like to rep and say hello and everything like that, we'd be very grateful. We have a lot of things.

Speaker 1 And that speaker is actually kind of sick. The helmet is actual Ridell's sports helmets.
And we'll be signing a bunch to send in kind of randomly. All right.
Have a good one. We can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're over. Yep, that's it.
I feel like I really nailed it. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 Are there full-size helmets?

Speaker 1 Many. Mini helmets.

Speaker 1 So we have,

Speaker 1 I think there's a few hundred of them.

Speaker 1 We will randomly send an autographed one with

Speaker 1 some of the orders. of the helmets.
I don't know how many we should do. I don't know how many we have here versus how many are at another place.
We'll randomly sign 20 of them. There you go.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll randomly sign 20 of them. No, we will definitely sign 20 of them.

Speaker 1 then we will randomly send them to purchasers of the riddle mini helmet or whatever so then you could have two helmets one of them will be signed instead or we just replace the one that they bought with a sign no they should get a blank one too we don't know what they're with

Speaker 1 yeah they want to bang their head around bang yeah put on their cat's head and run them into the wall yeah that's good that'd be sweet we should send them a blank one yeah oh yeah because they already bought a blank one boom

Speaker 1 yeah so we'll send 20 of the ones randomly throughout people that purchase it shout out to riddell from what my understanding they reach out to us. We're like, hey, we want to make some helmets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it was legit helmet. They

Speaker 1 actual helmets in there, which is awesome. Very thankful they did that.
Got some golf polos, hats, a couple flags, t-shirts with a little thing. And then the back has a Ford of Brand on it.

Speaker 1 Couple Pat McAfee show things. Very, very grateful for anybody that reps our shit in public.
And obviously, there's not always a good time to rep our shit in public. I'm in public as me.

Speaker 1 It's not always a great time. You know, there are certainly times where things, oops, you know, a little something stuff happens and then all you got to do.

Speaker 1 But we will certainly be grateful to anybody that reps our shit and 25% off everything in the meaningful football sale. And from my understanding, the back end, Shop 412, folks, should be pretty good.

Speaker 1 Okay. Here we go.

Speaker 1 I think the quality is all good, but I'm saying like the logistics of

Speaker 1 distribution. Taking order, fulfilling order, sending order, receiving order.
Sure. That whole process, a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 That's a really fun process, you know, especially when you're dealing with warehouses and people who don't give a fuck if your company looks good or not.

Speaker 1 This one, from my understanding, Shop 412 people went to high school with them. They are very excited and eager to do it.
So let's lean in a little bit. And it's good shit.

Speaker 1 We got some really good shit in the world.

Speaker 17 The putter head cover is awesome at the bottom of the screen there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the bag is awesome. I mean, there's a lot of really good shit.
They put a lot of work into thinking of things that would be nice. And also shit that we use.

Speaker 1 So like I actually use this stuff whenever I'm traveling. So like I'm very thankful for that.
25% off everything. Hopefully, you'll be able to purchase it.
If not, we're okay.

Speaker 1 And if you don't want to buy it, we understand. If you want to make a knockoff version, all right.

Speaker 1 Do what you got to do. My mom used to wear Indianapolis Colts jerseys from a different country far, far away that had my name on it because it was 20 bucks as opposed to 299.
Sure.

Speaker 1 You do what you got to do for your life, okay? And have a great Thanksgiving. Let's take a break on the other side.
We got so many things we got to catch up on. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So many stories that we need to talk about.

Speaker 1 Are we talking soccer again i hope are we can we play again

Speaker 1 we had a full conversation

Speaker 1 about how we gotta show this sport respect yeah

Speaker 1 world cup's in like 10 months isn't it when it's so far away but also so close burr halter plays on saturday nights been in vancouver okay

Speaker 1 never mind then

Speaker 1 listen we will watch burr halter please

Speaker 1 the mall plays today why can't he play for the sounders though

Speaker 1 Vancouver.

Speaker 1 That does suck. No thanks.

Speaker 18 He loves it there. Oh, he does.
Does he? Yeah, he said it in the interview.

Speaker 1 Actually, I guess he was playing for another team in America, and he lost his love for soccer and almost stopped playing. And then he went up there and he fell in love with soccer again.

Speaker 18 Didn't go too well at Austin FC.

Speaker 1 I wasn't going to call it the place. Gumpy won it.

Speaker 6 Gumpy won. Come on.
That's McConaughey. What happened?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Sometimes it just doesn't match.
Doesn't fit. Sometimes you're going through something in life, maybe.
It's not the right time.

Speaker 1 Then you find the the perfect place, the perfect time, perfect situation. You take advantage.
And that's Berholter soccer. Get him down to Miami.

Speaker 1 Oh, we need him playing with Messi a little bit, actually. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The only issue is Messi on the field. Burholter will not hit any free kicks.
We do need him to get very comfortable hitting free kicks. And Messi might get a little jealous.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially if he takes a shirt. This guy's unbelievably handsome.

Speaker 18 He is playing with Thomas Mueller, legend from Germany at Vancouver.

Speaker 1 He's unbelievable.

Speaker 18 One of the legends of the game. He's not going to hurt you.

Speaker 1 Isn't he a bit long in the tooth? Tomas Mueller? Yeah, he's unbelievable. He's like the rag now of the MLA.
Do you know Guten Tog Mueller?

Speaker 5 No, sir.

Speaker 1 He played for Bayner.

Speaker 1 Shocked. Yeah, he was a Bayern Mueller.

Speaker 18 White Cap's whole season turned around when he went there.

Speaker 1 Didn't he win the World Cup with Tony Cruz?

Speaker 1 And Ozil? Yeah, Messet Elzel. There it is.
You guys were just FIFA. This is straight from FIFA.
Oh, yeah. It was glory days, baby.
I remember watching that. Yeah.
it's awesome.

Speaker 1 You're watching. I don't know.
Watching the World Cup back. Yeah.
I mean, like I said, when World Cup comes around, I am highly invested. Yeah, and Ozo's got some Mr.
Bean in him. He does.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I used to love it. Oh, what an absolutely wonderful strike from Method Izzel.

Speaker 1 He was an Arsenal guy?

Speaker 18 He went from real to Arsenal, yeah.

Speaker 1 Boom! Who's that now? Who's the voice now of this world? It better be Ian Daca.

Speaker 1 You tell me, Gumps. Is it Ian or not? Yeah, he'll be out there.

Speaker 1 Will we be able to hear him? Because I know we get forced to maybe listen to the non-exciting ones because I always have to hear every other country's version of our goal.

Speaker 4 I only watch soccer on Telemundo.

Speaker 1 Boom. Spanish is one.

Speaker 4 Yep, same on FIFA. I change the language to Spanish.
It's the first thing I do.

Speaker 1 But I think the French even hit a big goalasso-type situation. I think they go crazy.
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 3 Ian Doc is returning for the World Cup for 2026.

Speaker 1 What was old buddy's name that used to be for the WWE? His name's Kevin. He's an Irish lad.
He went over to Apple. I think he calls soccer.

Speaker 3 Oh, Van Dam?

Speaker 1 Not Rob Van Dam. I don't think Rob Fisherman.

Speaker 4 Not KV named.

Speaker 1 Oh, Kevin Van Dam. Sorry, not him either.
Not Rob.

Speaker 18 Kevin Deegan either.

Speaker 1 Is that his name? Yeah. That wasn't his WWE name, though.
He had a different WWE name. He is a, I think he loves soccer.
I think he's very, very good at soccer.

Speaker 18 He does all the pregame stuff for MLS on Apple, actually.

Speaker 1 I think I've heard him call the game as well. Yep.
Good energy. Yep.
But once again, has accent. Sure.

Speaker 1 We kind of need that. You do.
Can we get Joe and Troy, maybe? Maybe Herbie and Al?

Speaker 1 I think they might be even suited for a World Cup game. Put fucking Herbie up there.
Yeah. He loves soccer.
Loves it. I heard they were close to scoring.
Right? Close to scoring? No, they weren't.

Speaker 1 He said, ooh, almost had it last night. It was when the U.S.
team was, like, we were talking about it on the show.

Speaker 1 Right now, if he is watching, which there is a good chance, he will text me and say, enough. Enough.
So then we started talking about soccer for something. I think it was Team USA was playing.

Speaker 1 And he was texting me enough and then USA played and I saw him the next day somewhere and the first thing he said to me was not hello not good to see I hadn't seen him in months.

Speaker 1 He was like they almost scored one last night, right? And I was like, what are you talking about? He was like soccer. We almost had a happy time.
And I was like, you're such a fucking asshole.

Speaker 1 But that is how a lot of Americans feel about soccer. It's like, hey, there's not enough success here.
There's not enough reason to celebrate. But I want to let you know.
Paunch's Dogs, this U.S.

Speaker 1 men's national team that's about to take the next World Cup, there's going to be a lot to celebrate. We need a cool nickname as well.

Speaker 1 Like, a lot of these, like, international teams just have cool nicknames for the team, and we don't. Can you give me a couple or so I know

Speaker 18 the Azuri for Italy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like stuff like that. What is that? What was Netherlands gum? I don't know.
Arange?

Speaker 3 Azuri is blue.

Speaker 1 L'Orange.

Speaker 1 Yeah, stuff like that. We need, like, we should just, we need Ponch's dogs t-shirts.

Speaker 6 We should be the saboteurs. That was usually my name growing up on certain teams.
Like, the high school kids gave it to us.

Speaker 6 We're going to sabotage.

Speaker 1 I don't mind.

Speaker 1 But it's not our language, though.

Speaker 1 saboteurs and yeah if we're doing nicknames let's be like the big dongs like why don't we that's good too we have like a sick sick nickname instead of like a color so eventually allegedly we were dropping um

Speaker 1 magnum condoms do you hear about this boom paunches magnums allegedly in war there was an entire group that was uh put together to deceive the enemy Okay, like deception things, whether they were the ghost, I think there was a ghost army that was a bunch of production people who were building like fake

Speaker 1 inflatable and everything like that inflatable barracks and everything like that to kind of send them off guards like we were trying to chess in 4d allegedly the story goes we flew over and dropped magnum condoms all over the place to let them know like hey this is what you're fighting against yes this is standard operating procedure over here yeah and given what we now potentially know about hitler that would make sense why we made quick quick work of the germans oh yeah he was

Speaker 1 yeah he had a micro penis we're dropping magnums and you know lemon lemon shaped don't forget lemon shaped he walked out there saw it nine yeah exactly so mad went right to his bunker and took the poison pill see that's what i'm saying that's that's what we got over here you know we got the next the next level thinking poison pill paunches poison pills paunches big penis yeah that's what punches

Speaker 18 they have been called the american dream in the past See, I like that.

Speaker 1 I like that. I can get up.
It's not bad.

Speaker 6 What's the best we've ever done in the World Cup? What's the best

Speaker 1 elimination round?

Speaker 18 Quarterfinals when Tim Howard said.

Speaker 1 Second elimination round. I don't think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 It's not bad. That's quarterfinals, dude.

Speaker 18 Top eight in the world.

Speaker 1 American dream: we should be the American Nightmare and have Cody Rhodes play goalie.

Speaker 1 We can just do Ponchatino for the lyrics.

Speaker 1 Poncha Tin,

Speaker 1 Ponchatine,

Speaker 1 punch a puncha, punch a teen.

Speaker 1 Poncha, punch a puncha, poncha teen.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah, because you can hit the O at the end. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cody Rhodes playing goalie in a full suit. Yeah.
And then halfway through the game, changing suits. Yeah, you know, you're right.
You're right. I got you goalie.
Jane Striker. Let's put him at

Speaker 1 center back. Oh,

Speaker 1 a Cody cutter when someone's going up for a header. Bruce.
Bruce?

Speaker 1 Bruce.

Speaker 1 I don't like the fucking angles that Bruce is taking with these guys.

Speaker 14 This was the best we've done in the World Cup.

Speaker 1 We're tied to England. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's a pro.

Speaker 1 He's a pro.

Speaker 1 This guy's a pro-Asian.

Speaker 6 Why'd you say win?

Speaker 1 Why is he a woman? Because you guys say he wins one-one. This is Bruce making fun of soccer.

Speaker 14 He's advanced out of the group stage, I believe, with this tie against England. It was a fucking monumental moment.
U.S.

Speaker 1 meant soccer. That is not

Speaker 3 even close to the best moment. Can't listen to the.

Speaker 1 listen, just know soccer is going to be big in America because our American team is going to be really good. And we've gotten a chance to now meet them through the Concaf a pod.

Speaker 1 Everyone we talk to, we like them.

Speaker 1 And as somebody that grew up in the soccer world, boy, it's easy to spot whether or not somebody's one of the soccer players that you hate or if it's a soccer player that you like.

Speaker 1 Feels like everybody that we have on our team right now are people that we would like, like America would like. This Luna dude.
Yeah, right. I mean, he's...
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 And they all feel like, I think they'll have chips on their shoulder, which is is like, yeah,

Speaker 6 let's try to just go start. Like, just take out the other team's best player the first couple of games, somehow.
Nothing dirty, just like a good, clean.

Speaker 1 You want to punch him in the dome? Is that what you want? No, no.

Speaker 6 Just you can shoulder him, right? Or hip check, whatever you do when you're playing soccer.

Speaker 1 I heard you ask Will Compton that question, and we had been having a similar debate over here. I don't know if you had gotten any text from anybody about the responses.

Speaker 1 Embrace debate, spit and face, punching balls. You asked Will what he would rather receive.
What do you you think is considered worse?

Speaker 1 Spit and face, I think, is the natural answer that that is the most disrespectful thing. Is that how you view it as well, AJ?

Speaker 6 Yeah, absolutely. Spit in the face is much, yeah.
I Debut said it earlier, like it's definitely multiple steps worse than getting punching the balls.

Speaker 1 What do you think about the punching the balls deliberately happening there last night? Yeah, like I

Speaker 6 just, yeah, I don't know. I don't, I wonder what his thinking.
He was down there. He's getting blocked in the back.
All of a sudden, he's got a little cast on. I see there's a good clean shot.

Speaker 6 I i mean sometimes you get caught up in the moment and that was just that's how he responded i guess but it's i can't say i've done that on the field but you're right you mentioned it like i grew up in that era as well like you got to protect yourself when you're around dudes and uh i guess i never expected that on the football field bro yeah you never protect yourself out there on the field didn't think anybody's punching in balls now at the bottom of a pile You know, I know what you guys used to do down there in the AJ.

Speaker 1 I used to tell stories about what you guys used to do at the bottom of those piles. You too, D-Butt.
Yeah. That's not real.
Definitely AJ. Yeah.

Speaker 6 There was a game I was watching the other day when they said the ball, you know, there's a pile up, whatever, for a ball. And they said, that ball's changed hands five times by now under that pile.

Speaker 6 And I was like, no, it has not.

Speaker 1 Trust me.

Speaker 6 Like, there's no way it doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 So I think I've told this story before. We kick off to the Dallas Cowboys at home.
Cowboys return, fumble happens, scrum. I'm within five, seven yards.

Speaker 1 I'm like, fuck, I've never been a part of a pile before. Literally in the moment, think to myself, oh, I've never got to do this before.
Dive in, okay? Dive into the end. Get hand on ball.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 1 Get hand on ball, but also another hand. And then I thought to myself immediately, what the fuck am I going to do now? Like, I'm going to grab this from this guy.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 The ball didn't budge at all. And then all of a sudden, I do start getting, I start getting shots to my forearm.
I'm like, oh, that's my drop hand right now. Like, I am in a bad spot right now.

Speaker 1 I immediately get out of there. And I'm like, what was I thinking I was going to do in the bottom of that? What you were saying, I think, is the truth.

Speaker 1 Like, normally whoever's on it is going to end up with it, but that person is going to take some.

Speaker 6 Yeah, maybe once early in the scrum. It's not like, hey, they've been down there for four and a half seconds and the ball is changing hands again.

Speaker 6 It's like, no, whoever kind of has it first, then you can kind of get swiped away. And then you just got to deal with people punching at you, hopefully not probing you and doing things like that.

Speaker 1 It's always the person that is either lost the ball or has the ball that is getting all of the action. I think they think like everybody in the pile is like, all right, come grab cheeks, punch balls.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's like... It's the worst feeling too.

Speaker 4 Like, especially like, obviously, defender get an interception, returning it, boom, then it you fumble it's like oh my god like you try to get in there but if you're not first second maybe third in there you got no shot because then guys just then you just got to deal with the weight

Speaker 4 you got a couple thousand pounds on you can't breathe yeah that's that's the toughest part it starts getting real real tight in there i uh

Speaker 1 yeah i fumbled once i was down in hockey league bullshit my elbow is clearly down against the raiders okay right here i hit a circle button it should have worked i was told that that would work in that particular setting.

Speaker 1 Professional athlete tackled me. That's crazy.
But I was down. Hockley didn't blow it dead.
That ball comes out.

Speaker 1 Just full chaos on my ass, just because that's where the ball's at.

Speaker 1 Unbelievably uncomfortable. I mean, I thought I was going to break my hips and my spine at the time.
And I think I got a punch to the hamstring, I think, at one point.

Speaker 1 And it's like, this is out of control. And I'm looking up motherfucking Hockuley the whole time.
Like, I was down. This thing is dead.
What are we talking about? It was fourth down.

Speaker 1 Obviously, it didn't matter. I gained zero yards.
But, yeah, I don't know if we can just openly have punching in the dick happening. No.
No, I don't think we can have that.

Speaker 1 I don't think we can have that. No.
Not if a guy has bought him a bow in his Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good to have you what you got to do.

Speaker 1 And if a guy's about to take a photo next to you and he's just staring like this

Speaker 1 back in our day, what we used to do. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's a tough time, honestly.

Speaker 1 Just a little one of those.

Speaker 6 Especially probably, I'm the youngest of three, too. I'm with my older brothers, friends.
Like, good luck. I had no no chance.

Speaker 1 Literally, there was an entire generation of people that felt obligated to walk around like this. Like, are you timid?

Speaker 1 No, actually, complete opposite. Just would like, not to get punched in the balls by these guys.
This guy right here will punch me in the back.

Speaker 4 So just walking in the hallways, just passing by.

Speaker 1 I know, we never did that, but I have heard that there was just random acts of ball tapping.

Speaker 1 I've only been associated

Speaker 1 in my area. I'm not going to speak for everybody.
Just the sly, that's the only thing I've been part of. Now,

Speaker 1 I've been told that one of our high school friends walked in the other day to somebody's house. He hadn't seen him in a few months, walked in, faked the hug, ball tap, then hug.
I mean,

Speaker 1 so that's

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 That was me.

Speaker 3 And Joe Hadley ball tapped me. That was us.
That was us.

Speaker 1 What's his business, Tony? It would be a good time to get him back.

Speaker 3 He's always been a bully. Him and Nick, that's how they were raised.
They would stuff kids in lockers and slap books out of their hands and ball tap kids in the hallways.

Speaker 1 That's just who they are. Now, I will say,

Speaker 1 Hadley is a bit handsy. You know, I've watched Hadley walk into a room.
There's been a group of four people that he said hello to. Every one of them left worse than whenever he started with him.

Speaker 1 First guy, full dap up, boom, shoulder, elbow to the chest. Good to see you.
Next guy, double slap of the hand, then to the face, breaks watch and smacks in the face.

Speaker 1 Next guy, big hug, picks up, back crack. Yeah.
And I'm waiting at the end of the line. Hello.
Good to see you there, sir. And just kind of moved my way up.
So that's Hadley football. He's Italian.

Speaker 1 He's, you know, he likes to get handsy. What do you mean by?

Speaker 1 The Italians are very handsy. They're very handsy.
I mean, they've been 6'7 since just saying hello. Since the year 6'7.

Speaker 1 Or 7. Yeah.
Yeah, 6' or 7. Yeah, good point.
Yeah, you're right. 100% right.
I've been learning a lot about all that. Nope, let's get to a break.

Speaker 1 On the other side, we got college football conversation. We got game balls that BA has got to give out and uh obviously more conversation about what's okay and what's not okay in our eyes okay

Speaker 1 because obviously

Speaker 1 the cast that punched the balls last night has his side of the story too

Speaker 1 jamar chase he gave an apology to everybody did you hear that

Speaker 1 recently yeah he put it he put an apology out on his social media and He apologized to the Steelers as a whole, for sure. And I guess Jalen Ramsey does fall in there, but he did not say Jalen's name.

Speaker 1 Put a lot of words together, which we're very thankful for, to my team, fans, Bengals organization, Steelers organization, and the NFL community. That's a great first sentence.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 I could see Jamar Chase sitting at his computer

Speaker 1 going

Speaker 1 to my fam

Speaker 1 to my squad

Speaker 1 to my

Speaker 1 team

Speaker 1 fans.

Speaker 1 fuck the Bengals

Speaker 1 organization and the NFL community. Oh, fuck

Speaker 1 the Steelers organization and the NFL community. Did I miss anybody?

Speaker 1 Nope, that's fucking everybody. Nail it.

Speaker 1 Please know I'm speaking from my heart.

Speaker 1 How do we really let them know that this is real? And that this message isn't coming from somebody that's not me. That is just associated with me.
Maybe hired to do this type type of thing

Speaker 1 well this one's coming from my heart

Speaker 1 yeah for sure right here

Speaker 1 take full responsibility for my actions during last sunday's game all right that's all we need to hear yep takes full responsibility and apologizes to everybody but jalen ramsey specifically we move on let's stop the spit

Speaker 1 what if that's what he actually had first and then somebody looked at it no no no no no come on

Speaker 1 We need more.

Speaker 1 This needs to be 300 words. What was the old rules? 500 words for essays and shit.
Yeah, probably 500.

Speaker 1 What years were that at school? Does that still happen to you guys?

Speaker 1 Oh, it happened to us. Yeah, we had to do, and honestly, it kind of turned into pages, and they cracked down on all the gimmicks.
Like the big

Speaker 1 periods, the double spaces after the other sentences. They cracked down on those.
The double space after the period is not a gimmick. That's how the English language works.

Speaker 6 I'm talking double spacing as in if I'm physically writing the sheet, you know, skipping a whole line.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that's because you're an artist and also your words hold a little bit more value so obviously one line's not enough and 12 font is i think what they decided on was being good i didn't like that at all because you could always sneak 13 or 14 in there oh yeah 12 and a half especially with those plum teachers because they're so hungover while reading that thing at that time not all of them i don't want to fucking cast judgment upon every one of them but you get what i'm saying and they know what i'm saying too nowadays they get catch against chat gpt would be tough not to copy paste and send that thing oh no they got a lot of ai detection yeah they're very good at that now yeah use it as an outline you can do that pretty simple chat gpt outline, then you write your own through there.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Are these kids learning anything?

Speaker 6 Probably not.

Speaker 1 The ones who want to are. But do they know more?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they have more at their disposal for sure.

Speaker 1 But do you know less if you don't know what's a fact? Are we more informed

Speaker 1 or more gullible?

Speaker 1 Hmm. I don't know.
Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life. Miss D.
We're back on the other side with more. Deep,

Speaker 1 deep, deep, deep sports thought.

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Speaker 1 Football!

Speaker 1 I think you would have got me. That's AJ Hawk.
That's Coach BA. The Toxic Table's here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.
Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 1 On hiatus podcast on your chest right there? Yes. Yes, on hiatus.
And we're waiting for season two?

Speaker 4 Yep, Mr. Kim.

Speaker 1 I hear you, man. We just had a convo with Mr.
Kim as well.

Speaker 4 It's got a lot going on. Oh, yeah.
Probably 670.

Speaker 1 Mr. Kim is.

Speaker 1 I'm sick of Mr. Kim.

Speaker 17 He needs to figure this out now.

Speaker 1 For which one? The man-to-man podcast? Oh,

Speaker 1 or the pod? Mainly the pod. Oh, you're not like that.
Yeah, we legitimately just had a conversation with him two days ago. Wait, wait,

Speaker 1 there's an update? Yeah, yeah. Sunday night, because again, we were planning on this week, you know, Thanksgiving treat.
Here we go. Pod episode, one of our favorites.

Speaker 1 Because there's been a lot that's been happening. Exactly.
Yeah. Consistently, Thanksgiving's one of our favorite ones.
And this was kind of our idea to launch it on Blackout Wednesday. And Mr.

Speaker 1 Kim on Sunday said, hey, boys, I. Who is Mr.
Kim? I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's the the best of the best, man. He is the one that stirs the drink, as they say.
I didn't even know man-to-man was going to fall into the Mr. Kim.
Me either. Of course, this Mr.

Speaker 1 Kim guy's everywhere. And now I'm here in my Thanksgiving pot episode.
It's nowhere to be found, even though it was maybe going to come.

Speaker 1 And I didn't know it was potentially going to come until just moments ago. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 I mean, Connor and I were absolutely floored, taken aback when he said, yeah, I've pulled all financial backing.

Speaker 1 Mr. Kim, actually? Yeah.
Well, I mean, we fired up the group techs, the podcast. I thought he's the one that paid for season two.
That's why he got back to the back.

Speaker 1 He greenlit it initially, and it was just like, you know what? Fuck. Actually, I'm going to have to pull all financial back.

Speaker 1 I don't know if something's going on in a different sector that he's kind of. Hold on, Foxy, because we allowed Mr.
Kim to purchase the pod, right? Is that not, if you recall? Exactly. I trusted Mr.

Speaker 1 Kim. Definitely.
No, Foxy is a member of a podiac, like I.

Speaker 1 And so he has had to watch the entire thing kind of take place. And me and him have been bummed out through it all, but for the good of the pod, we let this happen.

Speaker 1 Remember, you guys are pumped for Mr. Kim.
You remember that? Yeah. And I mean, it's very similar, actually, kind of to the chair company, Tim Robinson's new show.

Speaker 1 The leading director on the mall just kind of came back and he said, I want to scrap this whole thing. I want to completely redo everything we were planning.

Speaker 1 So unfortunately, I think there is going to be a little bit of a redesign. Mr.
Kim did mention he really wants to hear more from Mitt McMahon and D-Bone.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if that means a new cast for the public.

Speaker 1 I don't think. This doesn't sound smart.
You guys need to claim a little ownership over your shit.

Speaker 1 I guess I've taught you absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 You got somebody somebody that we have never even met before bullying you boys.

Speaker 1 And you know what? In turn, bullying the potty X, which means Foxy.

Speaker 1 But see, we trust your judgment. So you gave him 100%.
No, you guys did this shit. No,

Speaker 1 we didn't give him anything. You gave him 100%.
No, Foxy, that's not how this went.

Speaker 1 And did Mr.

Speaker 17 Kim say where all of his money went? Because we knew we had a lot of money when we trusted him with the pod.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. You guys trusted him with the pod, just like we did.
I'm pocket watching Mr. Kim.
What he does with his investments and his financial situation. He's very good with catfish.

Speaker 1 That's none of my concern.

Speaker 1 It sounds like you guys are getting catfished potentially. We could be.
It was a phone call. It wasn't a FaceTime.
I didn't actually see his face. You guys need to set picture, fork, Apple.

Speaker 1 You need a set scene with today's newspaper. We need a photo.
You guys are getting catfished today. Well, we know that even those things can kind of be wiggled around.
And

Speaker 1 I don't even want to go into, yeah, exactly. Which would have been a great topic on the pod.

Speaker 4 A fucking country running it.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? I mean, we had a whole year mapped out, so we got to go all the way back. I mean, he's got non-compete.

Speaker 6 Can he go somewhere else? Can you do it somewhere else? Like, we ain't leaving Mr.

Speaker 1 Kim, man. What? He's the best in the business.

Speaker 1 I've never met him. Why would we leave something that we logged in with Kim?

Speaker 18 You do not leave.

Speaker 1 Oh, got me. We don't need to hear Canada getting involved in this conversation.
That's right, though. Let's move along.

Speaker 1 College Football Playoff Committee will release its newest college football playoff projections off of their rankings, nobody else's.

Speaker 1 It's one of the most important things that happen through a week-to-week basis in college football. This group is going to set the 12-team playoff that is going to start at 12 and count down to one.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, let's head to Hammer. Dad!

Speaker 1 AP Tone, obviously, you're a college football author multiple times now at this case. What do you think the College Football Playoff Committee is going to roll out this evening?

Speaker 1 And how do you think Hunter is going to do as the chair in the interview post with Reese Davis?

Speaker 3 Yeah, this week was a difficult week to predict.

Speaker 3 Oh, no, it wasn't. Actually, that's the same exact bracket that the committee did last week, and every single team won.
So they have an easy bracket if they want to.

Speaker 3 Hunter just come out tonight and say, hey, Reese, everybody won. Nothing changed.
The one thing that could change was, obviously, Oregon had the biggest win this week of these teams.

Speaker 3 They beat USC at home versus a ranked team. So Oregon maybe

Speaker 3 could maybe go to six. I don't see them maybe go to five.
I don't see it, though.

Speaker 3 We've talked about this since the very first week. I thought the committee didn't love Oregon because their lack of quality wins.

Speaker 3 But they did get another quality win. So maybe they do something with Oregon.
But other than that,

Speaker 3 every team that was in the playoff last week or the predicted whatever that they put out won. So

Speaker 3 I don't see much changing tonight.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we assume that Hunter will be able to come out and just reiterate the stats that he had from last week. Is it kind of chalk the rest of the way if this happened?

Speaker 1 I mean, I know top four are going to play against each other, we all assume.

Speaker 1 And then Texas Techs got West Virginia, Virginia. Yep.
Which

Speaker 1 that's in Morgantown. Yeah, spoiler.
Yeah, I mean, that's the line.

Speaker 1 24 and a half.

Speaker 1 Wow. Right now.
Mountaineers are favored? No. So turns out.

Speaker 3 No, Pat. A lot can happen.

Speaker 1 It's the other way. Fox.
Holy shit.

Speaker 3 Go ahead, Tony. There's still a lot that could happen.
Like, when you, Foxy, can you go back to that for me, please? Yes. All right.
So Ohio State obviously has Michigan.

Speaker 3 They haven't beat them in four straight tries. They've been the number two seed in in every single time that they've lost in the four straight.
So who knows what happens there?

Speaker 3 Indiana's Purdue, that's probably going to be a win. A ⁇ M's got Texas at Texas in a rivalry game.
So something could definitely

Speaker 3 happen there. A ⁇ M needs to win to get in the SEC championship.
Four Georgia has Georgia Tech. Now, have they looked great? No, but last year that game went to eight overtimes.

Speaker 3 Texas Tech does have W. WU that we talked about.

Speaker 3 Who's number six? Ole Miss has obviously the Egg Bull. So, you know, know, another rivalry game.
They're only six and a half point favorites on the road at Mississippi State. Good team.

Speaker 3 Oregon's got Washington. Another good team.
That'll be a tough game there. Oklahoma's hosting LSU.

Speaker 3 LSU is a really, really good defense. Like, so, and Oklahoma's offense is very, very iffy.
So if it's a defense battle, anything could happen. Notre Dame goes to Stanford.

Speaker 3 Probably not going to be a great game there.

Speaker 1 Then Alabama's got a... No! They got the axe back.

Speaker 3 I know they do have the axe back. It is a a 10.30 Eastern start, so maybe it's tough start time for Notre Dame.
And then Alabama's got the Iron Bull, which is going to be a tough one.

Speaker 3 And Miami's got to go to Pitt. So there is a lot that can happen this week.
There's not a lot of easy wins for teams that are already in the playoff bracket as we look right now.

Speaker 1 Shout out to College Ball. Shout out to Rivalry Week.
Shout out to Rushmore on X given their best sports rivalries.

Speaker 1 Al Michaels, obviously, Costas, Ari and Ben rattle off the sports rivalries throughout the history of of sports and which four need to be etched in stone forever.

Speaker 1 It's a great episode of storytelling and great sports history.

Speaker 1 Obviously with Al Michaels and Bob who have basically been on the call for all of these things. So it's a special episode and Rivalry Week is a cool thing.

Speaker 1 Like this is an awesome thing that college has and does in all these games, not all of them. One of the, a couple of these teams will pound the other team.
For sure. And they will dance in their face.

Speaker 1 And hopefully they won't punch them in the balls or spit on them. That is what we're all hoping for the rest of football as we go.

Speaker 1 But there's going to be a lot of crazy outcomes here, just strictly off of emotion. That Egg Bowl, Old Miss Mississippi State, will be fun to kind of follow along with.
That'll be a fun one.

Speaker 1 A ⁇ M and Texas, I see some people picking Texas to beat A ⁇ M very confidently, saying, hey, Texas, this is when they get them. Arch playing his best football.
Elko and the boys need to peak.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they're heading into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Oregon, Washington, after watching that Oregon team and meeting that Oregon team, I feel like they're dogs this year. You know, the Indiana loss is obviously something that's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Indiana was a very mature team at the time. They were ahead of schedule.
I think they were playing great ball. I think Oregon's doing the same.
And is this the year for Ohio State? Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, buddy, 2,187 days. That's an interesting stat that we just got shown here from Bruce Brown.
Long ago. Wow.

Speaker 6 There'll be one more tomorrow.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 6 There'll be one more tomorrow, right? You can add one to it.

Speaker 1 That's right. Tomorrow will be 2,180.

Speaker 6 I don't know. I don't know what the original number was.
Eight.

Speaker 1 And then the next one will be 2,180.

Speaker 6 9, I believe, right?

Speaker 1 Yep. And then the next one will be 2,10.
That's a crazy one when you go from 89 to 90.

Speaker 1 That's one that can really trick you, you know?

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 4 Thanks, Bruce.

Speaker 1 There you go, Bruce.

Speaker 6 Age. Why is Bruce a Michigan fan?

Speaker 1 Family thing, I believe?

Speaker 18 My grandpa worked for 45 years in a Ford factory in Detroit, Michigan.

Speaker 14 My dad grew up in Dearborn, Michigan.

Speaker 1 So? Okay. Does that answer it for you? Why don't you fucking ask another student? It's a family thing.

Speaker 6 It's a family thing, I guess. When they win, Bruce is always talking about Michigan.
When they're losing, I never hear him say anything.

Speaker 1 Whoa!

Speaker 1 You're saying he's a frontrunner with Michigan Wolverines?

Speaker 6 Is that what you're saying? No, I don't know. I don't know.
I just don't. It pops up at moments every once in a while when something happens with Michigan.

Speaker 1 Did you know him 2,188 days ago?

Speaker 6 I did not. I don't think so.
Did I? I don't know.

Speaker 1 So things have been very good since you've met bruce brown and since you've known bruce brown maybe that's why bruce i like that you're a michigan wolverin fan and i like that michigan wolverin take credit for the ohio state buckeyes national championship last year i like that they think that the ohio state buckeyes just cannot beat michigan ever again and i appreciate the fact that ryan day has had to deal with that as a national champion his team's number one in the country and he still has to answer questions about yeah what are we doing about michigan this year what are we doing about michigan this year it's special man that's a special thing to have, Age.

Speaker 1 It sucks if you're in Ohio State in this situation. You haven't been in the world.

Speaker 2 No, Ohio State,

Speaker 6 over the course of the rivalry, Ohio State feels very, very good about where they're at. No question about that.
Especially even, you know, these last four years, we understand what's happened.

Speaker 6 Michigan's done a great job. They're a great foe, great rival, but that's what it is.
That's what makes college football awesome. Like these games, and there's a bunch of them this week.

Speaker 1 National Championship, big deal, right, for the Ohio State Buckeyes? Huge.

Speaker 1 They lose to Michigan again. You think that propels them into another national championship run? That'd be A-OK with people in Ohio?

Speaker 6 No, I do not think that would be A-O-K. You better go run the table again if you don't figure this one out.
But either way, it'll be, yeah,

Speaker 6 it'll make everybody a lot happier, obviously, if Ohio State gets a win here.

Speaker 1 Two-score favorite. A lot of points.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 For a division guy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 What was it last year, like 20, 21?

Speaker 6 That was a bunch last year.

Speaker 6 I mean, we saw, I don't know if you watched the game last year, Will Howard, I mean, he was comatose on the field for 20 minutes, and then he got up and sprung up down the sideline and played the rest of the game.

Speaker 6 Like, he got smoked and came back. I give him a lot of credit, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a dog. What happened to the younk? There's no unknown over there? Nah, he was playing in 1997 for most of that game.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, he might start this week. We know what the unk over there is doing.
What's that?

Speaker 3 A lot of Steelers fans want him to start this week.

Speaker 1 I'm okay with it. You guys, Aaron Rodgers is your fucking quarterback.

Speaker 3 What do we? What's it matter?

Speaker 1 Also, I wanted

Speaker 1 to love Mason.

Speaker 1 mesaffer leave also i need to say this because i'll get attacked um because people think that i'm putting miami in the playoffs um if smu and virginia both win they're in the acc championship and most likely going to represent the acc and you are trying to predict what the committee is going to do this is not your actual we need to make that a little bit more clear i think this is tone trying to predict what the committee is going to do tonight off of the results that happened this past weekend correct yes see i got a problem with that one when you beat notre dame head-to-head you got the same record?

Speaker 1 Head-to-head wins. Okay, so that is the conversation about last week's one: is what do they care about? Head-to-head wins.
When did the head-to-head win happen?

Speaker 1 What about your other losses that you've had, not just that particular game? I mean, there is so many different outs, which is why they'll never get the right answer.

Speaker 5 It's crazy. I don't mean

Speaker 1 what the fuck do you play? What's bigger than head-to-head?

Speaker 5 Why do you fucking play the game?

Speaker 1 Sorry to play the game.

Speaker 1 Who's better?

Speaker 1 The guy that fucking won.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Since Since when?

Speaker 1 The beginning of time. The beginning of time.
Since they started keeping the score. Of anything.
The better one is the one that wins.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, they can say, but in a playoff situation, in a neutral site with this particular action, with where this team is now versus where they were when that game happened, which has been happening since the beginning of college football kind of rankings, I think, which is a part of the problem, obviously.

Speaker 1 Totally. Yeah, Virginia Tech's about to be back in all of this, though.

Speaker 5 In a heartbeat.

Speaker 1 In a heartbeat, baby.

Speaker 5 But we got to get the nears back on the schedule.

Speaker 1 The West Virginia Mountaineers?

Speaker 5 Yes, indeed.

Speaker 1 I don't think you want that, brother. Oh, yeah, baby.
Oh, you don't want that. That's a good one.
You don't want that, brother.

Speaker 1 Now, on that note, James Franklin, going to turn you guys around, you think? Oh, and quick, quick.

Speaker 5 I mean, we had more four stars on campus this past weekend we've probably had in 10 years. And then you guys lost, right? And we lost, but five of them committed.

Speaker 1 Oh, because they saw the vision.

Speaker 1 They see. They see what it's possible.

Speaker 5 They saw Sam Mann and everything else that happens there.

Speaker 1 Oh, how was it? Was it a great weekend? It was a good one, yeah. Yeah, it was good.
Who said Theo Vaughn said I was at Virginia Tech, that was the most coordinated fan group.

Speaker 1 I couldn't even imagine coming in there and just seeing like your gladiator type building and stuff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, with the Corps cadets and the marching bandits, it's a very unique situation.

Speaker 1 And James Franklin is a dog.

Speaker 5 Oh, he's owned that state. He's on mid-Atlantic recruiting now for the last 10 years.

Speaker 1 I see, I've never.

Speaker 1 Nope, not going to say that. You got to think that conference is pretty gettable, too, when Virginia's the big bad wolf.
Yeah. If you're a kid coming in,

Speaker 1 Virginia's not the big bad wolf. No.
Right now, they are. Mario Cristobal is there.
Yeah, but there's a chance it's going to be Virginia and SMU in the ACC champions. Brett Lashley's a problem.
He is.

Speaker 1 Dabo Sweeney, what a beast down there, that boy. Bill Belichick in the ACC.

Speaker 1 And the story is. Manny Diaz.
Duke. Where does he end up at? Who knows? The story is Virginia Tech is going to be good again.

Speaker 5 Congrats to you guys. Yes, indeed.

Speaker 1 Congrats to you guys.

Speaker 5 It's going to get you you out of the Big 12, man. Get you back with us.

Speaker 1 You don't want that. See, I don't like the way you're kind of saying that you would like to schedule us because that's not good for you guys.
It is.

Speaker 6 He didn't say kind of.

Speaker 6 He was pretty adamant.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's not saying it for the good of rivalry. He's saying it sounds like because he wants a dub.
Is that what you were saying?

Speaker 5 No, no, because it was such a great, it was like the rivalry when I played. You know, we didn't play Virginia that often.
We played West Virginia. That was it.
West Virginia and Florida State.

Speaker 1 So the people at WVU told me, because as soon as you said that, and I was like, yeah, I never got a chance to be be a part of except for we had Virginia Tech at home I never got to play there it was at the end of the scheduling I never got to play down there sucks that has to be an electric place especially because they make you stand out there while they're doing it so like while they're doing all their shit you are standing out there just kind of waiting and feeling I think it's a real home field advantage like I think it's actually a weapon and special yeah but nothing compares to the old mountaineer stadium yeah brother because it was always mountaineer day when we played them and they passed out chewing tobacco and the fuckers spit all over you when you came in

Speaker 1 Keep your helmet on boys.

Speaker 1 You were walking near their splatoons. That was where their splatoons were.
What'd you say? Throwing batteries. Yeah, they used to do that.
Who? Bush League. Where? Mm-hmm.
Right out there.

Speaker 4 They have many good times out there.

Speaker 1 We're good.

Speaker 1 A lot of night games.

Speaker 4 I have Thursday ESPN night games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we were good against you guys. We had a lot of highlights, a lot of good moments.

Speaker 1 Pat White depleted four of your guys, I think.

Speaker 4 Yeah, now UConn and West Virginia kind of go opposite directions. What do you mean by that? You're just talking about ACC.
We.

Speaker 4 All year against ACC. We got Heisman finalists.
We got a Balitnikov finalist. Who?

Speaker 4 Heisman and Balitnikov.

Speaker 1 Push team back.

Speaker 1 You have a Heisman family member playing for UConn right now? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 What's the guy's? Mikey Heisman? Joey.

Speaker 1 Joey Heisman.

Speaker 1 he's a member of the family like how far removed from the heisman family is no no no he's playing quarterback for the yukon huskies right now and his last name is heisman why are you bringing up heisman i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna make his last name heisman until he's in new york and he gets so he's not a relative of the heisman family no what are you saying you're saying he's up for the heisman award yes he's gonna

Speaker 1 win it deep button is saying yes a yukon quarterback is up for the heisman right now joey finano

Speaker 1 what's his name?

Speaker 2 Joey Finano.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've seen this guy on the internet.

Speaker 3 31 touchdowns, one reception, and

Speaker 3 he probably not going to go to New York, but the wide receiver is actually up. He's one of the three finalists for the Blitnikovs.
So D. Bucks is right about the wide receiver title.

Speaker 1 Oh, so I would like to let these two incredible football players know. Skylar Bell, it's a wide receiver.
Like to let Skylar Bell know that.

Speaker 1 It was cute what you did in Yukon.

Speaker 5 Jimmy Moore is doing a hell of a job, too.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Him more.
Back-to-back nine-win seasons?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 They need to come to West Virginia. Stop it.
No. No.

Speaker 1 They need to come to West Virginia.

Speaker 4 Nope.

Speaker 1 Mr. Fañano needs to come down there, back up Scottie Fox.
Yeah, he's on the AQB. So Scotty Fox can play quarterback, and Mr.
Fagano can be the backup. Mr.
Bell, obviously, we got an offensive line.

Speaker 1 It's brewing. We love to throw you to Rock.
Are you guys going to be able to keep these guys? I hope so.

Speaker 1 I hope so.

Speaker 4 You know, the state of college football is tough.

Speaker 1 Independent. Ohio State's throwing that ball to Bill next year.
Oh, my God. Julie Insane.
Hey! Jace back there. Oh, who's the Balitnikoff winner guy from Yukon? Yeah, he's part of Buckeyes now.
And

Speaker 1 that's his 13th touchdown of the year. That'd be great.
That sucks. That's where we're at.
If you would like to say we're in the same boat, that is where you would convince me.

Speaker 1 That if we were to create a Balitnikov at either of our schools, which it sounds like you might have done,

Speaker 1 see ya.

Speaker 1 Smoking. And I don't like that.
I hate it. I don't like it one bit.
Running back for the Buckeyes right now. He's a really good ball player.

Speaker 1 Leading tackler right now from Missouri, really good football player. These guys cut their teeth in Morgantown.
Now,

Speaker 1 the hard-edge boys

Speaker 1 who have come into Morgantown,

Speaker 1 they're going to feel pride building that place back up to what it's going to be. So other schools are going to certainly give them more money and

Speaker 1 sell them hard whenever they have their success. These boys aren't budging.
And that's Mountaineer difference. And that's why you don't want to schedule us.
Okay.

Speaker 1 James Franklin's going to get those guys in there.

Speaker 5 They're staying.

Speaker 5 Price is right. The deal is real.

Speaker 1 You might flip Kevin Brown. Don't.

Speaker 1 Keep your fucking

Speaker 1 everything away from him. Kevin Brown's a big-time recruit.

Speaker 5 He's a bad boy. He's a bad boy.
Yes, yep.

Speaker 1 You need to stop. This guy is a part of

Speaker 1 Virginia Tech entire thing.

Speaker 1 This guy's actually part. This is tampering.
We already signed this.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 6 No signing.

Speaker 1 Nothing is on paper.

Speaker 1 It's not allowed. Soft verbal commitments.
This guy told us. It was not soft.

Speaker 5 This goes way back to the 70s. I first started college coaching.
I'm recruiting in D.C. And the guy signed with Kansas State.
Coach says, I don't mean shit. D.C.

Speaker 1 Price is right. The deal is real.
No! Kevin Brown is a mountaineer. Welcome to recruiting back in the day, man.
Oh, yeah. Well, nowadays it's even worse.

Speaker 1 It's legal now. Yeah, not worse, but better, I guess, for the player, but certainly a little scary.
Kevin Brown's going to flip around the mountaineers. He's got a hard-edge stroke through.

Speaker 1 He's not going to. You see his dad did it.
Yeah, Kevin Brown's papa and grandpapa aren't letting him not dawn the West Virginia Mountaineers.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about. See that? This is grandma's idea.

Speaker 1 It's a great idea. It's awesome.
And I like how comfortable they were with it all just spraying gas on the fire. Do you see that? It's pretty good.
Country fucks, you've seen, they've done it before.

Speaker 1 Get that gas. There was one little kid kind of doing it and then dad was like you know what to do give me that thing shut up give me this thing

Speaker 1 douse it just

Speaker 1 huge the fires that they have built just from watching that the amount of trees that have come down everything else they have built i would assume epic fires out there from the looks of the comfort level you can see them for miles i bet

Speaker 1 oh yes all

Speaker 1 people gather around I assume there's music playing, having a good time, boozing around that.

Speaker 6 Someone's playing the guitar.

Speaker 1 And he's a mountaineer.

Speaker 5 It might have been a little bit of alcohol.

Speaker 1 Not him, but

Speaker 1 Tim!

Speaker 1 Tim Brown? Pops up.

Speaker 1 Straight edge. Yeah, Tim.

Speaker 6 Kick slide. He's locked in.

Speaker 1 Did you see that itch?

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, I like it. Kick slides.
It's good.

Speaker 1 Thank you. It's only getting better, too, Kevin Brown saying he's going to be a mountaineer.
I don't watch it. He's filming.
Do you see me putting that foot in the ground?

Speaker 1 Your quads aren't quite popping like James Jonathan.

Speaker 1 Pretty good, though. He's got great quads.
Oh, my God. You need to stop complimenting Let's move along.
Let's get to you compliment. There it is, just dumping again.
Do you know what to do with it?

Speaker 1 Doss that thing. Doss that thing.
How about him say, We got some connection issues? We've got some connection. Probably we're going to get through that.
Here we are.

Speaker 1 Yep, we're bringing Couch Burning back to Morgantown. It's like, all right, I don't think you should actually do that, but we understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 The metaphor is good times and success, like it was back in the day. We love that.
College football is crazy. The College Football Playoff Committee will do their thing tonight.

Speaker 1 We will certainly judge them on how they see the top 12 teams. Now, let's get to some complimenting of some NFL guys from BA.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, as we wrap up this glorious Tuesday, it's time to celebrate a couple players who had epic weekends for their teams. It's time for BA's game balls.

Speaker 1 Let's start in the NFC, Bruce Arians.

Speaker 5 Oh, maybe the second best backing ball, if not the best, Jameer Gibbs. Man, what a day against the Giants.

Speaker 1 I mean, 200,

Speaker 5 what, 19 yards, 45

Speaker 5 receiving, three touchdowns? I mean, just blew it open and get another about a 70-yard run right up the gut.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 5 he got more long runs up the middle than anybody I ever seen.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's talk about that a little bit. What is that?

Speaker 1 Because there's people that are a little bit worried about the interior of the offensive line for the Detroit Lions, but it does feel as if Jameer Gibbs is able to break free through the middle whenever we're watching the highlights.

Speaker 1 Is there a thought on their better run blockers than they are pass protectors as an offensive line? Or what is kind of your take on that?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I believe that's the situation right now. Their pass protection was very, very leaky against the the Eagles, especially up the middle.
And it is against everybody.

Speaker 5 I think one thing, Detroit's problem, is they have a lot of seven-step drops. They don't do a lot of quick passing game.
Everything's up the field, up the field, up.

Speaker 5 And they couldn't protect against the Eagles, but they run the block. They run block as good as anybody in the league.

Speaker 1 Jameer Gibbs pounded in the ground. So fast.
I think he said 22 miles an hour he got up to on the overtime run. Yeah.
Outrageous speed for Sonic.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think I saw next-gen stats, like the top five fastest ball carriers. He's four of the five.
I think Jonathan Taylor was up there at top number one, but he is so explosive.

Speaker 4 Like when he hits the guy, I've never seen a guy outrun angles like he does. Like safeties, they'll be eight, 10 yards ahead of him, and he just outruns it.

Speaker 1 And he's like, that's not your touchdown debut.

Speaker 6 That should not have been a touchdown. At all.
It's unbelievable. The fact that he's able to score on that run is just crazy.

Speaker 1 I like the Moxie, too, to walk it in.

Speaker 4 Like this right here, like, if you pause and you look at the safety, it's like, okay. It's an NFL safety.
Like, you're going to at least get to a point where you can push him out.

Speaker 1 He looked like a punter kicker. He's just staring at him.

Speaker 4 Yeah. No, it's crazy.
Like, how he outruns angles. You mentioned it.
Up the middle, bouncing out. And he's becoming a threat in the past game as well more than last year.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, it's going to be tough to get Monty Knuckles more carries with Zero doing what he's doing.

Speaker 1 That's a real thing. They got a stable in the backfield, you know, Sonic and Knuckles.
And then you get one guy who's just doing like historic shit. How do you handle it?

Speaker 5 You play the one that's got the hot hand,

Speaker 5 and the other guy accepts his role.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you got to talk to him about that.

Speaker 5 Oh, you got to talk to him. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I bet you feed him, you know, hey, I'll put you in a goal line. You score stats down.

Speaker 1 Get you a stack.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got you.
Hey, we'll get you a tut. We're sorry.
This guy's running all over the place.

Speaker 5 We'll get you a couple of tutties and then go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which I think obviously keeps everybody happy. If you're winning, everybody's happy.
So that's the NFC game ball. One to Jameer Gibbs, who I think everybody's impressed with.

Speaker 1 256 yards total, or whatever the case is. Three touchdowns wins the game for him.
Now let's go to the AFC. Who's got the game ball?

Speaker 5 The Houston Sachs Station.

Speaker 1 Oh, not the Houston Space Station. Houston, we do not have a problem.

Speaker 1 problem at getting to the quarterback in Daniil Hunter and Will Anderson Jr., they're special and they built their team around them. That is they got liftoff, baby.
They got liftoff.

Speaker 1 These two cats are coming off the edge.

Speaker 5 This Houston defense is legit. I mean, big time.
D'Amico's got them really playing.

Speaker 1 Remember, they trade up to get Will Anderson. They bring in Daniil Hunter and pay him.

Speaker 1 The old Colts teams used to have Dwight Freeney in the Hall of Fame, Robert Mathis, semi-finalist for the Hall of Fame. I obviously would like to see him get in there because of what he's done.

Speaker 1 The most strip sacks in the history of the NFL and an absolute beast came through as as a special teamer small hbcu guy i mean just his story is awesome if he was getting the hall of fame i think his stats would uh lead to it but also i think the story is awesome for football but we used to get a lead and then these two guys would just take over the game feels like houston's doing something similar yeah i think that's that right now their offense they're actually playing a little bit better with mills playing and uh

Speaker 1 they get the lead it's over Why is this something that is unstoppable whenever you have two guys? It's because you can't chip, you can't slide, you can't protect?

Speaker 5 Well, if you're going to keep your back and your tight end in, who the hell's getting open?

Speaker 5 Butt nugged, all blocked up, nowhere to go.

Speaker 1 Makes sense.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 On that note, we appreciate y'all out of UBA. Happy Thanksgiving, BA.
Happy Thanksgiving, BA, yeah.

Speaker 1 BA, favorite side, favorite side for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 Green bee casserole.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 That's a little old school. I haven't heard that.

Speaker 5 It's old Pennsylvania, baby.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. My mom, actually.
She's, I don't want to say,

Speaker 1 my mom's a great lady. Doesn't do a lot of cooking.
Green bean casserole, though, was always the play, I believe, whenever it had to show up.

Speaker 1 Are you a mashed potato guy?

Speaker 5 More stuffing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Mashed potatoes all the time, but stuffing is perfect. Special.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, he's got the right thoughts. Turkey or ham? Turkey, ham, both? Both? Yeah, why not? Oh, yeah.
Apple pie, pumpkin pie? Lemon. Oh, that's meringue.
No meringue. Okay.
No meringue. Okay.

Speaker 1 Just lemon. Have I ever had just a lemon pie? I think I've only been presented with a lemon meringue.

Speaker 1 You can buy a couple lemons, just take a bite out of them like an apple if you want after the show.

Speaker 1 That was an interesting thought. Like, do you remember when people used to...

Speaker 1 I'm not getting into it. Steve-O and Jack S.

Speaker 1 Put the lemon juice in there on their eyeball like that? Yeah, they would just eat it too. Oh, yeah, that was something you would do.
So

Speaker 1 I thought the meringue was the tasty part. Nah, just a lemon, man.

Speaker 5 Got a little bitter taste and jump in there.

Speaker 1 What time are we starting to eating? What time is it?

Speaker 5 We are always about at two o'clock.

Speaker 5 Go play football. Come in, eat, go play basketball.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Happy Thanksgiving.
Eat again.

Speaker 1 Before we get out of here, we got to celebrate something special. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is

Speaker 1 really made a name for himself around this Thunderdome.

Speaker 1 A man who's slowly starting to kind of roll into the country music business. Yeah.
He actually released his first award show, awards list just a week ago called the DBA's.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are saying, Is that the Douchebag Awards? No, it's not the Douchebag Awards.

Speaker 1 That is the D-Bone Awards. Okay, D-Bone is a special talent.
D-Bone is a national champion, D3 offensive lineman, and D-Bone self-taught himself how to be a graphic designer.

Speaker 1 And D-Bone has survived another trip around the sun. Wow.
It is D-Bone's birthday. Happy birthday, D-Birth.
Happy birthday, D-Bone.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday

Speaker 1 to you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday to

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, dear. Can you get on camera, please? Can you get on camera, please?

Speaker 1 Can you see there where the camera's at? Get on the camera.

Speaker 1 Please, get on the camera, please.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Come on, man.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, dear.

Speaker 1 We love you, Deeba, and we appreciate you, buddy.

Speaker 4 Great awards, too.

Speaker 1 Great awards. I think you got them all right, and they got them all wrong.
Yeah, focus. Especially if you ask DB of the DBA.

Speaker 1 I think next year he's potentially going to put it at a location and have this award

Speaker 1 show actually take place. Okay.
And we might actually get a couple of these attendees. All right.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 We've already set the seed a little bit for maybe next year the DBAs have a couple of these award winners in attendance. I love that.

Speaker 1 And I do believe if you're looking to win an award next year and you say you'd come to the DBAs, I think you'd win an award. So just something to think about.

Speaker 1 Any of you aspiring young artists out there looking to win an award that nobody really knows about yet? It's on the come up. Yeah.
Talking to you, Mr. Worthington.

Speaker 1 Geez. Oh, yeah.
Love you, Jake. Yeah.
All right. Let's get out of here.
Happy birthday, Bone.

Speaker 1 For Bone, maybe me and Foxy

Speaker 1 give him a birthday gift of a couple wins in U-ball.

Speaker 1 No chance, especially after them coming to the back room when we have a basketball court out there covered with cameras and they were standing in a spot that didn't have a camera. That was insane.

Speaker 1 That's your department, bro. Happy birthday, Pone.
That's your department. That's your department.
My God.

Speaker 6 I had hard to avoid all the cameras there, actually. If you tried, it's hard to avoid them, really.

Speaker 1 Legit. I think

Speaker 1 I mean, look at all that space.

Speaker 6 He's in the one spot, kind of, that you can, they're in the bathroom basically.

Speaker 1 There's seven cameras that cover this court right now. Okay, you're just seeing one that we obviously cut through.
There's seven of them.

Speaker 1 Is this boom?

Speaker 1 There's security cameras. There is live.

Speaker 1 There's one up on the top. There's one over here.
There's one over here. There's fucking one up over there.

Speaker 1 And on this stage, obviously, there's like 20 different cameras that we can kind of turn and shape in every different direction. Back there, we got four cameras, I think.

Speaker 1 How many cameras do we have in it back there? PTZ.

Speaker 1 No, just the one, I guess. Just the one.

Speaker 17 We used to have two, and now just the one back there.

Speaker 1 See, that's the problem. Debone was trying to point out something.
He wasn't here when that one was here. No, of course, but Debone's just saying, you know, we need to find a camera to find me.

Speaker 1 Got a couple blind spots back here. He did say there is a couple blind spots.
Happy birthday, D-Bone. Thanks for making this better.
Happy birthday, D-Bone.

Speaker 1 All blocked up, nowhere to go. No, it's a bit good.
Bup nug.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 nug.

Speaker 1 Bump nug.

Speaker 1 Let's hope. Let's hope Tom Brady doesn't try to say that on TV.

Speaker 1 Tom, why don't you come on out here, but geez, that can't be

Speaker 1 that stuff.

Speaker 1 Just the immediate.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 I don't want to listen back to it. You should.
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 Did I?

Speaker 1 It's close. I think Burke Hart gave him a.

Speaker 1 No Bundino, dude.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
Shout out to you, BA. Shout out to you, too, D-Bud.
Happy Thanksgiving, man. Happy Thanksgiving, fellas.
What's the sides?

Speaker 1 What's the sides? Oh, you can just play that song. I got a beam, beam, beam.
I like them all, but I'll probably have to go

Speaker 1 yams if if I had to, which sweet potatoes. Yeah, yams are delightful.
I too am a sweet potato man myself, and uh, obviously, stuffing

Speaker 1 just a party in her guy who's eating lemon pie likes stuffing. That's a good sign for you.
I don't love that.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
We're in this thing together. BA, anything for the team here?

Speaker 5 Great show. Better win next week, baby.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Team on me.
Team on three. One, two, three, team.
Goodbye.