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I'm incredibly excited.

I was, you know, you have two kids now and you're busy and I was trying to ease you back, but now we get you back for stuff.

You've been very

like a year and a half.

I know, but I'm back.

And I have to tell you, in terms of like returning to the real world, this is like a real

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Thank you so much for this opportunity.

Joanna Robinson is here as well.

Hello.

You don't live here, but every time you're here, I try to to grab you for rewatchabir

and it's like a great track record of of movies that you've had me cover so working girl um i can't believe it mentioned it a couple weeks ago to you and mallory yeah when we were doing a rewatchables and i was like we should do working girl and mallory who you've known now for how long 10 years

said

i cannot do that I cannot take that from Amanda, give my spot to Amanda.

And I was like, you're right.

Amanda has always said Working Girl is the number one movie I would ever want to do in the rewatchables.

I've been waiting.

It's my bad for forgetting that.

And now we're going to do Working Girl.

Let's run the trailer and then we'll go.

Do me a favor, Be me.

Tess, be my secretary.

He wants to give her a chance.

Hold all pause, Miss McGill.

Maybe I just don't like you.

You're a double-crossing boss.

I consider us a team, Tess.

Doesn't.

This woman is my secretary.

But this working girl is going to make it on her own.

You are of me's Harrison Ford, Sigourney Weaver, and Melanie Griffin.

What's going on in there?

She's dusting?

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All right, Your favorite movie ever, Amanda.

Why?

Perfect romantic comedy, but more than a romantic comedy.

It is a cultural artifact as well as a,

you know, Cinderella story.

Great casts.

Got a Harrison Ford take for later that I don't want to spoil, but very important.

One of the great movie songs, if not the great movie song, of, well, I don't want to be a menu.

I mean, I mean, listen, it's in the trailer, right?

heard it, but incredible stuff.

Um,

the first time I when I watched it twice in four days, and the first time, and I was like, Do I like this song?

And then, when and it plays nine times like

where she's just kind of humming it a couple times, you're like, All right,

yeah,

the score is great, the score is wonderful, yeah.

Um,

and also, you know, I was born a few years before this movie came out, so in some ways, this is how I understand the 80s, you know, uh, and it, and how I understand my parents for better and for worse.

So, just landmark, in my opinion.

Joanna.

I love this film so much.

I feel like this is a top five 80s movie.

Yeah.

Like, if you're like, what was the 80s?

Let's put in a time capsule for the aliens.

Working girl is in there.

It has to be.

The very,

that would be an interesting

conversation, what those five movies would be.

I kind of feel like the breakfast club should be one of the absolutely.

Sure.

Yeah.

diehard

diehard the first diehard the first diehard

fatal over like ghostbusters would you put fatal attraction in there I'm trying to think of movies that should seem distinctly 80s

let's see Top Gun I think would have to be in the

there's a lot yeah but if it can only be five this should be a podcast this should be an entire podcast what's the 80s yeah what's the five movie time capsule for each decade but it but it would have to be these movies represent the 80s in the most 80s ways possible.

And so the way that the Working Girl represents,

well, you know, I'm just like only a few years older than you.

And growing up re-watching all of these 80s movies on TNT or TBS or whatever it was, I was like, oh, every movie is set at Wall Street.

Like that was the impression we got that every single movie was about Wall Street.

That was the goal.

That was the aim.

Everyone was in New York trying to trading.

And

trading and arbitrage, which I still don't know what it is.

I should have to Google that before this podcast.

Sure.

I don't know what arbitrage is.

I have it under questions that can never not be answered.

Okay.

Yeah.

What is arbitrage?

No, I'll never know.

There's also,

and this is kind of the tail end of the, I mean, there's so many things going on with this movie, but this kind of greed is good era.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Where it's like, you just got to work your ass off.

And if you get, then you'll have money and maybe you'll be able to ride in a limo.

And it's just the 80s were very innocent about all that stuff.

That was one of the things that jumped out to me is like, oh, this premise probably is in the same kind of premise in 2025, necessarily.

yeah i don't know that like the the highest achievement is your office and in a warren of all these other offices if that's like the the gold ring the rest ring that you want right now but in in the late 80s it was and it was a zero sum game you were getting it at the expense of somebody else all right so i have well first of all rolling stone wrote this in 1989 which i thought was perfect when they did a very bizarre melody griffith feature well sure and i cannot i yeah i listen to talk about has there ever been like an unbizar melody griffith feature my life?

This is,

wow.

Rolling Stone writes,

Working Girl is the story of a secretary fighting an egomania, egomaniacal boss for credit on an idea.

Griffith stars as the secretary, and she too is fighting for credit, though the character she plays in almost every scene, Griffiths Billing is third behind Sigourney Weaver, the boss, and then Harrison Ford.

It's so interesting that she's not the star of the movie.

Yeah.

Because she seems like a massive star now.

But at the time, it seemed risky to even build a movie around her.

She had just done something wild, right?

Yes.

But no, embodied it, but those weren't big movies.

No, well, this is what makes her forever a star.

Totally.

Yeah.

But I can't remember other movies where somebody's clearly the star and they're like, no, we got to put you third because we need these other two for the poster, which kind of weirdly mirrors the movie.

That's so interesting.

I think it's definitely happened before.

Usually maybe second builds over a star that has an ego or something like that.

But third build

under Sigourney Weaver because Harrison Ford's her co-lead, but Sigourney Weaver is definitely in supporting.

But she was a massive star from Aliens at that point.

She's not going to end, you know?

She doesn't even like get the end, like the over or introducing.

She's not being introduced and working for a while.

Yeah, just absolutely third.

Well, I can't wait to talk about her.

All right, here's what I wrote down.

There's four movies going on at the same time.

We mentioned the greed is

the New York aspiration.

The cordon get-go.

Yeah, stuff that's in.

There's this 70s, 80s thing that they don't really do anymore in movies where they're trying not to get caught in an elaborate lie.

Right.

Was

basically half of the TV shows in the 70s.

And then a lot of movies where it's like Joanna's pretending to be the head of Spotify.

Oh, well, that's like the TV show Younger, essentially.

Oh, yes, exactly.

All of which is just...

Craig thinks Joanna is running Spotify.

She's actually not.

And now they're in the same room, and the actual head of Spotify is there.

And she's got to dick out.

I feel like I I can get away with it, honestly.

Yeah, but there's no Google.

So

yeah, there's you can kind of make up whatever you want.

So you have that.

You had the pretty woman Cinderella idea.

It's so the pretty woman parallels with this movie.

It kind of makes me look down on pretty woman a little bit.

They openly steal shit from this movie I like.

Yeah.

And then the last piece is the female empowerment workplace comedy stuff that is like for the 80s because you have baby boom here too.

This is broadcast news in a like a slightly different way.

news this is becoming an era of like professional women huh what an interesting right time for something fatal attraction is also like the reverse of it right you know like a professional professional at the expense of a beautiful home in the country so you're missing the the rom and the calm though well no and obviously the rom-com yeah but which one of the out of all those what's your favorite i really the yuppie cinema of the late 80s and particularly the women is fascinating to me.

I love all of those movies.

It is really fascinating to watch them now and be like, oh, so this is how I learned how I was like supposed to go to work and supposed to dress.

Because for our age, it was, you know, handed down to you, like, okay, this is what a working woman looks like.

This is what it is to be a professional.

Right.

You're supposed to like, can you have it all?

Should you balance your career?

Should you accept the random child that you inherited from an unknown location?

Right.

Have you done a baby boomer washable sorry?

Is that what we're pitching right now?

I mean, it's, it is really fascinating.

Bright Lights Big City was another one.

There's a bunch of these.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

My mom talks about, my mom's old, so she talks about this all the time when she gets mad at younger generations.

And she's just like, we just knew how to navigate stuff in my day.

If we had people who were just jerks or they were hitting on, you just, you just learned how to deal with them.

You just right there are sleazoid on

the table.

You just kind of had your...

Your ways, almost like your nuclear defense system.

Of dealing with it.

And it's one of the interesting things about rewatching this movie is the first 20 minutes is basically all, but like she's just in this world.

Weird shit's going on.

They're trying to set her up with Kevin Spacey.

And she's like, is he going to just try to get me the date?

And the irony of it being Kevin Spacey was pretty great.

But he's like, yeah, I got my hotel room.

And she's just like, oh, man.

She ends up getting out of the car.

And it's just like, ah, that was a Tuesday.

Right.

Now that would be like the most traumatic thing that happened to somebody.

But back then, that was just kind of what the 80s were like.

Right.

She was crazy.

She has that scene with Alec Baldwin of when she's talking about like how great it is to be working for a woman and there's none of that like chasing around the desk crap.

And it's just matter of fact.

Matter of fact.

Exactly.

Right, right.

And she's like, I know you hate when I say stuff like this, but it's kind of nice to not have my ass lap.

But I can't think of that many movies in the 80s that even,

I don't know, casually.

Nine to five?

Is another one?

Nine to five.

That was the whole theme of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, that movie's insane.

It is true.

I think I was 10 or 11 when that came out.

The whole point of that movie is like, do you think, did you see it when you were 10 or 11?

I saw in the theater.

that's amazing did you see this in the theater i did oh god jealous i mean 87 was an all-time movie character or 87 88 those that those two years of just big stars cool movies um

i'm trying to remember

if it was perceived as a harrison ford movie or a cigourney weaver because they were both really big stars yeah um

i think it was probably a bigger deal that cigourney weaver was in it because she was the aliens was such like a massive movie.

I wonder if it was a big deal that Indiana Jones was doing sort of like a romantic comedy.

It was first romp comedy.

Yeah.

You know, so in an Indiana Jones movie or a Harrison Ford movie until you see it and then it's a Melanie Grace.

Yeah, he doesn't show up for at least 30 minutes.

Yeah.

We'll talk about him in a second.

We got to talk about, we got to talk about Melanie.

Okay.

Yeah.

Holy mackerel.

What a performance.

I still think Body Double is my number one Melanie Grace.

Really?

Oh, she's so good in that movie.

And she just comes in

120 miles an hour.

Even though she is Hollywood royalty and she wasn't, you know, born a working girl from Staten Island, this just is, seems like her.

This just seems like who Melanie Griffith is.

And I can't separate her from Tess, having seen her in like any number of other things.

She's also,

it's an amazing performance because it's not over the top.

It's not, she's like, she's not going to win the over acting award.

Like she is soft-spoken.

She's scared that guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But she's still, you know, she's going to, she's determined.

She's going to get what she wants.

But I always think it's really interesting when people take these really big roles, the movie hangs around her, and they're, and they recede a little, and they don't always raise their voice, Meryl Streep and Devil Wars Prada being the other one.

It's, it's not an obvious choice, and she's great in it.

That's another movie.

Yeah.

There's a lot of

Devil Where's Proud of the Show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a reason reason on my favorite, you know.

Well, that's

38 years old now, and it's just sprinkling DNA over all these beloved movies over the next 40 years.

But those were the Pretty Woman and Devil Wars Prouder were the two that I was like, oh, yeah.

You guys just watched this one over and over again and tried to pull stuff.

Melanie Griffith.

We're going to talk about it now.

Let's talk about Tess first.

Okay.

Perfect character.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like just like little details that are great.

Like when she shows up in the office and she takes her shoes off and replaces them.

It's like, okay, I get the hair is like a disaster.

The outfit's not great.

You know, the makeover, some sort of thing is happening at some point.

She's like

slightly trashy, but not.

You know what I mean?

Like you could see her at a bar at two in the morning, probably.

She fits in both worlds.

She figures a way to fit in both worlds.

Well, yeah, but they're doing like the class version of she takes off the glasses and like, like, oh, geez, she's beautiful.

Right.

She was obviously always beautiful, but I like that the makeover montage is just like a haircut.

It's not like ever, you know, it's like she takes off her bangles in one scene and like she cuts her hair in another scene.

And that's also that Joan Cusack is capable of that kind of layering on such short notice.

It's like flobe level

feather.

Really impressive, really career.

So she snaps, well, all of a sudden, when she's going to pretend to be the boss, yeah, fixes her hair.

Yeah.

Slightly different outfit, changes the makeup, and all of a sudden looks like an absolute assassin.

Yeah.

But it's just,

I thought it's a totally authentic, I completely believe the character.

Yeah.

I'm in on all her decisions.

I actually believe she can navigate this world.

Yeah.

And she's using like her street smart skill and street smarts the right way.

And the guys are kind of that one scene when she walks in and it's just a whole room of guys.

And she takes like everything about it.

It's just really good.

And I'm actually surprised she didn't win the best actress.

I understand why, because the Jodi Foster and and the accused, that was such like a big part.

It was like a big thing for her.

People had a whole history with her.

But I don't know.

If you watch those two performances side by side, I actually think this one might be.

Well, especially since Jodi's about to win again.

I always like when you sort of re-litigate the Oscars, I'm just like, well.

Would you rather give her the silence of the lambs?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought, I think this is the harder part because I don't know who else could have played the part.

There's a whole roster, which we'll talk about later,

you know, but something that they talked about inside of the casting is they didn't want anyone who was like too obviously the most beautiful woman in the world.

See your beloved.

Sorry to step on

casting what ifs, but Michelle Pfeiffer.

Michelle Pfeiffer.

Can't work.

Yeah.

Right.

They were like, she's too beautiful.

Just don't buy it.

You couldn't like watch her bloom into something because she's pre-bloomed.

So, you know, Melanie Griffith is like the perfect.

She's so beautiful, but with the hair and the bangles and all this sort of stuff like that, you can see how people would overlook her or use her or whatever it is that they're doing.

There's some baggage that she brings in real life.

Yeah.

In the movie

that is perfect.

It's like, she just turned 30.

She's slightly older than Segourney Weaver and she just looks like there's probably been a couple mistakes in the past and now she's trying to get her shit together that I don't know if Michelle Pfeiffer would bring.

No, Michelle Pfeiffer has it like is pitch perfect, most beautiful person.

And there's no vulnerability to her or if there is it's like a different vulnerability.

Things have worked out for her since she was four years old.

I can almost see it with Michelle Pfeiffer with like Married to the Mob or The Fabulous Baker Boys.

Like, there's something in those characters that is almost.

Yeah, but she's having fun doing that.

I guess, but there it does.

I mean, Fabulous Baker Boys, the most important

performance by an actress in the history of movies.

Exactly.

That movie?

Yeah.

Haven't done that one.

Do we get to talk about Melanie Griffith's personal baggage right now?

Or should we do it later?

Well, it's pretty well documented.

There's a lot of stuff going on here.

In her Wikipedia,

there's a section for spouses.

Sure.

Don Johnson, married 1976, divorced 1976.

By the way, she was like 15.

Don Johnson, again, married 1989, divorced 1996.

Huh, that's interesting.

The double marriage to the same person is a classic Hollywood thing that I don't think happens in real life.

Stephen Bauer, married 1981, divorced 1989.

I have a feeling that they probably had some fun.

And then Antonio Banderis from 96 to 2015.

She was married to Don Johnson, Stephen Bauer, and Antonio Banderis.

Yeah.

What a trifecta.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Three of the greats.

She had Coke and alcohol stuff for

while she was making this movie.

And you can see it in the movie.

Yeah.

And

they have all talked about this, but at some point they even had to shut down production because she was

under substance abuse.

And she didn't, I didn't know some of this.

I didn't know that they made her pay.

Mike Nichols was so mad.

He made her pay for the whole day's shoot.

Right.

Stuff like that.

But you can

part of the reason that she works is that her face is sometimes like a little puffy and a little something, especially in some of the early test scenes.

And you're like, oh.

Yeah, it's not like she, it's not.

She looks like she had had like a really rough night the night before, kind of bloated.

She was carousing with Alec Baldwin.

Yeah.

You know, living her life.

so

she ends up getting

they say clean after the movie but that some of the stuff was griffith said it was the late 80s there was a lot going on party wise in new york there's a lot of cocaine there was a lot of temptation

one of the reasons this movie is re-watchable is because it's fascinating to see her scene by scene and be like oh yeah that was

a rough night because the tvs are better the hd is better and you can really say there's a couple scenes where she's just got like completely red eyes for no reason.

But it just like works.

I dunked my face in a bowl of ice water this morning, inspired by Melanie Griffin.

I was like, I just like, I just wanted to talk about her badness.

I need to de-cove myself.

Yeah, come correct.

They said she would be out till 4.30 in the morning and they would have like a six o'clock call time.

Yeah.

And she would just be flying.

So they finally had to shut down one of them.

But it really sounded like.

It was tough.

Not great.

Yeah.

I was watching a Harrison Ford interview that he did in promotion of this and they were asking if she was easy to work with or hard.

And she's like, He was like,

Well,

I just let everyone do what they do.

She's very sensitive, easy to access.

And I was like, There you go.

He talked right around it.

Yeah, the 80s were amazing, and so is the lesson in the rewatchables.

It was just there's no decade like it.

There's a lot of that in the movie, also.

There is cocaine, there are muscle relaxers, there's valium, dim,

a lot of, yeah, dim sum, a lot of booze.

Like, yeah,

it's full 80s in the text.

100%.

Yeah.

Um, seems fun.

I like the era where it's like 6.30 and people just on the set and people are like, where's Melanie?

Yeah.

There's no cell phones.

You have no idea, like, where is she?

I don't know.

We're filming.

We're getting this.

The sun's coming up soon.

And then she like comes in, probably from some whatever, but that's how they did it.

It turns out to be the greatest thing that ever happened in her career.

Although, if you look at her IMDb, this is probably the peak in Pacific Heights.

Yeah, this is it.

I mean, this is it.

Yeah.

You love Pacific Heights, but this is the peak.

So she went in rehab three weeks after filming and then

got back together with Don Johnson, my guy.

And was pregnant with Dakota for the Oscars that year.

Yeah.

Ends up having Dakota fanning.

Johnson.

Dakota Johnson.

Yeah.

Why did I say Dakota fanning?

It's only 9:30 in the morning.

Ends up having Dakota Johnson.

Yeah.

But Don Johnson is on Miami Vice.

This is the ponytail year.

Oh, yeah.

When he gets amnesia as Sonny Crocker and thinks he's a hitman.

I was listening to that.

And then the three-episode arc where he's just a hitman.

All culture starts.

He shoots tubs.

I was looking at the Oscar photos from that year, and his hair is just like down past his shoulders, like wavy.

Amazing.

It was an amazing reconciliation.

Yeah.

And then the other piece of it is, well, they were once married before when he was 22 and she was 14.

It's like, what?

Yeah.

14.

It's not good.

This is great.

So you think the 80s were different?

The 70s were like a whole other level.

But yeah, she's pretty legendary.

She was in night moves with Gene Hackman.

I think that was 1975.

The Tubi classics.

You see it on Tubi all the time.

And she has nude scenes in that.

And she's like 13 or 14 in that.

It's just a different era.

She's talked about her childhood.

Right.

Yeah.

I would say exploited was probably a decent word to use.

I would say.

I saw Drowning Pool recently for the first time with Paul Newman, where she's like a 15-year-old seductress.

Really, she's really, really good in in it.

And also like has chemistry with Paul Newman, who's definitely in his 50s at that point.

Jesus.

Yeah.

Well, it works out.

She's also, she plays a hitchhiker in the Robbie Benson Basketball Classic one-on-one movie I've seen over a hundred times.

And he picks her up and then she steals money from him.

But she's, she's basically just for five straight years.

either a hooker

or some sort of trying to steal from somebody or she's like a street person or she's a drug addict.

Right.

Yeah.

And that's just kind of who she became.

And that's, so when she does body double that's the first time like a real director is like no no there's something more here yeah though in body double it's not like she's wearing all of her clothes no she just plays a porn star she plays holly body and what i think is wild about this movie is like yeah this is the least sort of like lowly to seductress she is and she still is more than your your stereotypical rom-com lead like Mate Ryan couldn't do this.

No, you know.

Well, you know, one of the reasons I was thinking about this, because it's a great point.

she's very comfortable like she's in a brawn panties like three four different times in this movie where she's just like getting dressed topless she vacuums topless yeah and it's not like sometimes it's not great camera angles of her and she just doesn't care like she's very kind of and i don't know if a lot of like julia roberts i don't think would have been oh i'm just gonna get dressed in three different scenes meg ryan wouldn't have done it i really love that scene where she's just sort of like kind of awkwardly bending over fastening the garters and alec baldwin who's reading like motor trend magazine is like you look amazing, right?

And I'm like, Yeah, and he says it was the same thing with Joan Cusack when they're trying in different outfits.

Yeah, I don't know.

She's very comfortable on screen, which she for set.

There's something about her in everything she's in where you're like, I'm kind of rooting for her.

I don't know why.

Yes, Pacific Heights being the key

evil tenant.

She's got to get rid of that guy.

I have a lot of questions about Pacific Heights.

You haven't done that yet on Rewatchables, right?

We're going to have, it might not even be from Hell Month.

It might be from

Hell Summer.

stuff sounds like illegal on landlord arrangements there yeah you're just not allowed to go under the paperwork pile drive and do uh your thing yeah so we have her we have segourney weaver who her mid 80s looks like this ghostbusters aliens gorillas in the mist working girl ghostbusters too basically all in a row and each part's different this is a really weird segourney reaver in a good way performance where she's just

i i don't know this is like a character that would not exist in a movie anymore true How do you mean?

Just like super kind of heat-checky, pompous.

I use my sex appeal.

I'm just lying in bed in lingerie with 10 people in a hospital bed around me.

And

she's just going for it.

The lingerie in this movie is

of a time, you know?

No question.

They're all really, really invested in it.

Like thigh highs, I just don't think are part of the wardrobe in that way anymore.

She's really good at it.

And in another performance where she is like obnoxious and unlikable, but like all under a chill, there's like an iciness and it's never, it's not big.

It's human.

Until she comes in like with the crutches and is like making a whole scene and, you know, faints.

Well, that's what's interesting.

She ramps it up in the second half of the movie and it doesn't feel like it's.

Somebody's trying to overreact.

I feel like this character still exists and this character will always exist, which is just sort of like the woman who was born pretty and extremely rich and knows how to work every room.

Yeah.

And you're sort of and will

pretend to give you a hand up

and then stab you in the back.

Right.

And it's kind of annoying.

Like if you put Kathleen Turner in this role in the mid-80s,

I'm not convinced Harrison Ford's going to walk away from it.

Oh, in this case.

Oh, I thought you were, but it's almost like a little tough.

In this case, she's

a little annoying.

And I can see why he's like, God, I got to get.

Well, I'm almost like, why was Jack with her for long enough that she thought they they were gonna get married well timelines here you know are a little confusing yeah

what's your segourney weaver relationship she checks a lot of your boxes how so a lot of a lot of different things

that you're into yeah a lot of genres my main association is ghostbusters that's my sawney weaver association what's interesting about her she doesn't

Like, I don't know who the 2025 Sigourney Weaver is.

She was kind of a one-on-one, but nobody realized it at the time.

The different types of movies she was in.

I think, like, your Elizabeth DeBakey, what's so interesting about this is that the screenwriter said that her role was originally written as a man, which is true for her role in Alien as well.

And so the fact that they're like, let's get Sigourney to play the role that we thought we were writing for a man, but let's put a woman in it.

So that was sort of like a niche for Sigourney Weaver for a little while, which is so bizarre because she's so like beautiful and sexual and all this sort of stuff like that.

But they were just sort of like, there's something about her energy that feels like it could just slide.

We didn't change how we wrote the role.

We just have to change some plot points.

Yeah.

The jack stuff.

Yeah.

And the, and, and it does become more the fact that it's two women against each other definitely matters.

Even Added Amanda just suggesting they would have changed anything about Working Girl.

She was perfect.

The Sigourney Working Girl into Dave, very formidable.

So I want to talk about that because you have her in Alien and Aliens, which is like this distinct.

crazy action hero role, right?

That's like,

only a couple of people could have done that.

Then you have this working girl character, and then she's also the first lady.

And me and three completely different, and I actually like her the most than Dave.

I think that's my favorite Sigurini Weaver, other than Alien and Aliens.

The Dave and the Working Girl, it's someone who is very, very standoffish.

And, you know, I guess they track opposite where in Dave, you got to wear her down and so she'll be doing harmony, you know, for the cop when they get pulled over.

And in Working Girl, yeah, which is, it's really funny.

She's really good.

She is.

And in Working Girl, she's like sort of charming and

weird about the bunny, but then her true layers are revealed.

But both times.

So do you like villain Sigourney?

Are you like Ice Queen Sigourney?

Are you like action heroes?

Yeah, Ice Queen Sigourney is another one.

Ice Storm Sigourney is another one.

But like, yeah, she's so like patrician in this versus an alien.

She's a space trucker.

Like, I think that's.

But there's a steeliness to all of them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like Sigourney Weaver.

She's

not not a hot take she was one of the most successful actresses of the age

for your bravery

there's a reason she was in a lot of

big movies i'm still a fan she's still great i mean you know she's blue an avatar or whatever i don't remember what's going on there but i'm like a teenager and avatar oh and like also a whale or something yeah that was a lot of moving i don't remember also for people in my generation uh holes that's how we were introduced to segournewaver you know what i just learned about holes last week oh my god and it's formative for you.

Maybe one of the most formative movies for my generation.

One thing with her, she's tall.

Yeah.

And it's like, she's, I think she's like 5'11.

I'm not Joanna tall, but this is the tall woman like consortium over here.

Yeah.

So I'm taller.

Listen, you just made a face like I don't compete and I don't compete.

No, you, I welcome you.

Yeah, thank you.

But we like tall women.

We have Joanna.

She's tall.

Yeah.

Six feet.

Sigourney.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The Chuck Closterman All-Stars, a stinky tall.

Yeah, and this is why why it's believable when she lands that basket in Alien Resurrection.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, it's believable action hero.

Probably hard to cast in certain movies because like you can't put her with Tom Cruise.

Right.

The guys gotta be like five, ten and up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Speaking of guys, our guy, Harrison Ford.

It's it's really.

As we know, our really good friend Molly Rubin loves Harrison Ford more than

I'm going to give that to her.

Anyone else on this planet?

Her, she thinks the most attractive Harrison Ford has ever been is in Witness, canonically.

This is

peak Harrison Ford.

This is my hottest taste in honor of Mallory Rubin.

That is what my and also in honor of Luke Wilson could have been here before.

No, he could not.

This is the hottest he's ever been.

This is the hottest he's ever been.

Like, keep your Han Solo.

Keep your Indy.

I really, I mean, the Witness, it's tough.

And Mallory did give me her spot.

And so I feel bad.

And the Sam Coaching

Girls, what is it?

What is the electronic?

And we're doing Witness for her, and she can do Harrison Ford for an hour.

Her Joey and I are horrified.

Inside of the

hottest he's ever been inside of a movie, right?

What's the hottest moment?

for Harrison Ford inside of this movie.

Well, it's a little obvious, but when he's

changing the shirt and then kind of, you know, the audience is cheering.

And he's also, like, I like that he takes this role.

it's not it's a nothing role he's just there to like be handsome and support her and he does it with such charm and is like sure I'll just do whatever you need and that scene where he's just like okay I guess I'll get shirtless and you know make fun of myself and let a office of women clap for me I find that appealing the shirtless scene is very good I would I see that and I will I will raise you

a bit of Sadziki on the corner of his mouth being emotionally vulnerable about how he needs this trade.

Yeah.

He needs this.

No, that's true.

He is a little more open.

He's a little goofy in this.

There's like almost a little Jimmy Stewart in him.

Exactly.

Which I wouldn't say typically is my type.

So I guess I gravitate towards the slightly more, you know,

mushy, you know, asshole version of him.

Like, you know, I told, I promised myself.

when we met we'd drink tequila is a line that would work on me 10 out of 10 times such a good line yeah um i have a question he's 45 when they filmed this looks incredible i've heard conflicting reports so a couple years ago i read a harrison ford biography where he talked about, they talked about this movie, and his initial response to being offered this role was, I don't want to take this role.

It's her picture.

Why would I take this role?

It's her movie.

It wouldn't be my movie.

And that the way it was depicted in that book, they then give the role to Alec Baldwin.

Right.

And then he goes, actually, I want the movie.

And then they bump Alec Baldwin down.

That is true.

Well, the other story I've heard is that it was a function of the music.

It's still dynamic,

but it's fun.

Well, and also all the Mike Nichols stuff.

We haven't even, this is directed.

Mike Nichols is

that Nichols did want Baldwin, and then the studio was like, Melanie Griffith and Alec Baldwin aren't enough names.

You guys are stomping over casting what's going on.

It's too late now.

I'm too late.

Sorry, bro.

The casting would if you're not.

I don't imagine my audience.

Baldwin had it.

Yeah.

And then they called him.

And got demoted to Nick.

Hey, bad news.

But guess what?

He's great.

as names.

He's really, really perfect.

He's very small.

His career was fine, at least until Rust.

This and Beetlejuice.

Too soon?

Sorry.

This and Beetlejuice together?

Come on.

It's great.

To back up your Harrison Ford point,

I present to you this Nora Dunn story that I'm going to read.

We all had such a crush on him.

One time, Harrison walked up to me and said, I hear that you're working on a different project, and that's why you're working tonight.

What are you working on?

I could barely speak.

I said, I'm working on Saturday Night Live.

He said, Oh, yeah, sorry.

I haven't seen it.

What an amazing anyway.

Is it good?

It's been for 13 years at that point.

Yeah.

And I go, oh, it's not that good.

Laps.

I disowned everything about myself.

I even had my hand in my pocket wrenching off my wedding ring.

I turned into a complete ignoramus.

I came home very late that night, five in the morning.

My husband was in his bed.

He said, I'm glad you're home.

I have a better off,

blah, blah, blah.

And she goes, I was such a traitor because I was blown away by Harrison Ford.

He was in such great shape and such an absolutely perfect movie star.

The whole package.

Agree.

Nora Dunn.

Yeah.

By all accounts, one of the most unfriendly actions of the 80s and 90s.

Just completely all in on

Horizon Ford.

His 80s,

just wanted to mention this, not that people who listen to this podcast wouldn't know this, but two Raiders of the Lost Dark movies.

Actually, a third, because he made the third.

Last Crusade came out of Reddy.

Two Star Wars, Blade Runner, Witness, Mosquito Coast,

Frantic, and then this movie.

That's all in the 80s.

Just just from 80 to 89, just banging him out.

This man does not have an Oscar, banging it out.

It is a crime.

They're going to give him.

But I, no, I want a solver.

Yeah,

I want it on stage.

What would his Oscar have been?

Yeah, what would you give him for?

Regarding Henry?

Fugitive?

By the way, I love regarding Henry Mosquito Coast.

I liked it.

I saw it.

I like your joke.

It's a recurring bit regarding Henry.

He's, you know what?

I like regarding Henry.

I don't like it, but he's good at it.

Is this your audition for the regarding Henry Rogers?

it's on the list i love regarding the list flaw but lovable he is like he goes some new places you know and you never really see him be that sweet the cast in this movie i love harrison ford yeah can brain damage make you a better person that's that's the question regarding henry deris yes yeah harrison ford i think might have the highest approval rating of any actor of all time craig what's your relationship with harrison ford he's my number one favorite actor ever yeah okay good every generation loves harrison ford it's nice that it's been handed down the rule with this stuff is if you're at a party and somebody said you know i hate harrison ford people would be like what why would you like you just wouldn't believe it everybody loves not even the airplane antics could bring him down you know not even he's had a lot of weird moments last 20 years a higher q rating than even like a tom hanks genuinely oh 100 yeah yeah

He's Indiana Jones and Han Solo, among all the other things that he wanted to do.

He's the most popular actor of my lifetime.

Yeah.

Now, some of that helps because he has been been in some of the most popular movies of all time.

He's also just so cool.

And like, is still cool.

Yes, Ryan thinks Luke Wilson could have had his career.

Other people in this cast, Alec Baldwin, you mentioned him.

Yeah.

Young Alec Baldwin.

Yeah.

We'll cover him later.

Johns Landing, Alec Baldwin.

Joan Cusack nominated for an Oscar, which I found strange, but very good.

It's great.

Guess what?

You know, I would give it to her.

Yeah.

Nora Don mentioned Oliver Platt.

Yeah.

Starting his role of like,

this guy's in an office or in a business.

Is he a good guy or a bad guy?

Is he going to be the villain in this movie or like the sidekick?

Who knows?

Spacey.

Olympia Dukakis is in this.

One scene.

The years you're waiting for the Oscar.

She's wonderful.

We got to take a break and then we'll talk about Mike Nichols.

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This movie is directed by Mike Nichols, who

had such a fascinating career that Mark Harris wrote, I think, one of the best hollywood biographies I ever read four years ago about him.

And

I read Reservoirs.

It was like, I always thought this guy was interesting.

And then it's like 500 pages of how interesting and bizarre his life was.

And this, so his run in the 80s, just from 83 to 89, was Silkwood, Hartburn, Biloxi Blues, Working Girl, Postcards from the Edge, and then regarding Henry 91, but movies that just intersect with you, your brain, your life.

This is like, is he like your favorite director?

One of them.

Yeah, absolutely.

And a thing that of all those movies that you mentioned, all starring or centered on women, which in the 80s, you know, you didn't always get that.

He

was famously a comedian, part of Nichols and May.

And then,

you know, moved into and a theater legend, moved into directing films, Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf, and then the graduate.

And because he has so much theater work, he's just, he's like really good at people talking and characters and people being believable and

in real life situations.

And like the world around them is always very well observed.

And, you know, we say all the time they don't do it like they used to.

But Mike Nichols types of movies where people are just

trying to get something in life and being people, and they are people that you recognize.

He is fantastic at it.

There's this personal piece that didn't click for me until I reread the section of the Harris biography is that this is when he gets together with Diane Sawyer, who, you know, he considers the love of his life.

And like, they describe them as like giddy teenagers.

They're so in love in this section in the book.

And so the fact that he's like found the great love of his life right as he's making this like beautiful love story inside of Working Girl is really sweet.

And there is also like, so I think that Mike Nichols' biography, which is wonderful, so much of it is like his life seems so great.

I mean, he was like the creme, la creme in New York, friends with Nora Efron, married Diane Sawyer, like has a house in Connecticut and like raises horses for some reason.

I don't even really know what that is all about, but like a very like educated, fancy, like wealthy,

you know, New York society guy.

But he is in fact like a German immigrant, like worked through all of that.

And for me, the biography pointed out like the test character is

relates to him.

Yeah.

And there are a lot of shots of her going past and for the statue of liberty.

Like it's not subtle once you see that.

And this person, an outsider who like wants to be in the finer things, like wants to be a part of this like great quote quote-unquote American, whatever,

definitely comes from him as well.

It's interesting.

I was watching a Candice Bergen interview where she was talking about his horses.

Yeah.

And she was like, I think he surrounded himself with wealth to sort of inoculate him, like, because he was so afraid of going back to

that sort of humble immigrant roots.

And so he's just sort of like, I've got horses, I eat caviar.

I'm BFF with Carly Simon, like all this sort of stuff.

Like that is just sort of like, I'm never going back.

Yeah, he was big on chartered planes.

Yeah.

Just airmen.

Kind of obscene wealth.

Yeah.

And that was.

It seems like he lived well.

How about that?

The book made a big, that was a big piece of the second half of the book is he's so kind of obsessed with just garnering wealth because he wants to fly private everywhere he goes.

He wants to stay in like the bait.

So he ends up taking some

projects that basically just for the paycheck.

And his 90s get.

pretty strange.

Yes.

He makes some bad ones and basically does some money grab stuff.

But also the masterpiece regarding Henry.

So

But he

he belongs to this different era, though, of when like these

like very powerful creative guys felt like they ran New York.

And now it's kind of over.

Like Graydon Carter retired and Lauren Michaels is 80.

But you had this run in the 80s, 90s where it was like Mike Nichols, Graydon Carter,

Mike Nichols.

There was like these six, seven of them, and it felt like.

all of New York culture just kind of ran through all of them.

Yeah.

Harrison Fortune.

They're all friends with each other.

Yeah.

Harrison Ford talks about how like every day they shot, they also went out to these like really long lunches at the best restaurants and had the wittiest conversation.

And that was what it was like to work with Mike Nicholson.

And Spy Magazine was starting to even parody some of this stuff at this point.

But Nichols, fascinating guy.

I think

when I think about his movies, especially when you look at all these in a row, just really good with lead female characters.

He just, for some reason,

and they all loved him.

Works with Meryl Streep three times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, in that,

and then, you know, she comes back for a second.

And a really fast man, too, which, you know, I wouldn't call him like breathtakingly handsome, but it seemed like the uh, I think he and Melanie have the same number of marriages.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, he has, he had a lot going on in uh

really his whole life until he felt like yeah, so like to that point, when they gave, when they gave him the sort of like AFI award, every single tribute speech was given by a woman.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was like Nora Efron, Elaine May, Meryl Streep, Cher, Candice Bergen.

Like, yeah.

There was an oral history.

I didn't read it.

It came out last year because I felt like the biography I was good with Mike Nichols.

I didn't really need to double down.

But there was an oral history.

It's called something like Mike Nichols as told by 150 of his close friends.

Right, right, right, right.

So that was a really good title.

Yeah.

Screenplay was written by Kevin Wade,

who went to New York City in 84.

and saw all these career women walking through the streets in tennis shoes carrying his high heels and it's like that feels like a movie movie.

Yeah.

Then we go.

Ends up getting nominated for six Academy Awards.

Best picture, best director, doesn't win.

Best actress, Griffith loses.

Best supporting actress, Weaver and Cusack.

And only wins for Carly Simons.

Let the River Run.

One of only, I think this is right.

Guys, how are the levels on that?

Only this and Bruce Springsteen's Philadelphia.

I think at least in my research, maybe there's been one in the last couple of years they didn't update, but one best original song, Oscars, Grammy, Golden Globe, all three.

Oh,

wow.

Not like you wouldn't know it's a Carly Simon song.

I think so.

I don't know.

I think you would think it's, it could be like...

No, it's not.

It's just a popular.

Would you think this is a song?

Does it sound like Carly Simon to you, though?

I don't know.

I don't remember a time where I didn't know this was a Carly Simon song.

So this just is the Carly.

But like the way that she hums throughout the movie is very gilmore girls to me you know what i mean so like all of that is connected in its own special or dna for this movie gilmore girls but i think that like um that's carol king but it's like it's it's a very similar like vibe and i think what's interesting according to my research is that originally she wrote a bunch of songs for this movie and they were all very explicitly telling you what was happening in the cloth yeah right so they just cut she's just trying to get

yeah

time to cut your hair you know, whatever.

So

best picture, Rain Man beats it.

Okay.

Good category that year.

Rain Man, Accidental Tourists, Dangerous Liaisons, Mississippi Burning, Working Girl.

I'd probably give it to Dangerous Liaisons, but I would give it to Working Girl over Rainman.

I would.

Dangerous Liaisons person.

Oh, I love Dangerous Liaisons.

Yeah.

Is that you throwing your hat in the room?

No, I'm not.

Audition.

Just every time I say I like a movie, doesn't it?

No, because I love that movie.

Yeah.

It's a great movie.

I don't think CR, it's too, you know, too risky.

Yeah, he got a lot of money.

It's a little risky.

CR turns into like that timid Irish Catholic guy.

Yeah, Lynn Close, Malkovich.

Yeah, CR.

I still go for Working Man.

I mean, Working Girl over Raid Man.

Oh, yeah, Working Girl over Rainman.

Raid Man was like a real story.

Raid Man was a phenomenon.

Yeah.

This was too, but Rainman was like a phenomenon.

Oh, yeah.

I think we were constantly quoting Raid Man.

We weren't quoting Working Girl necessarily.

Well, Barry Levinson wins for best directing.

My dad's favorite director.

And Hoffman wins for Best Actor.

Best actress

um

melan griffith loses to jodi foster glenn close is in there for dangerous liaisons which is a incredible performance that's incredible is that i think that's the winner but is that where

her like trajectory of always being the loser starts um is that's the one her taking off the makeup at the end yeah she's very good i think it it took like a couple more nominations before everyone right became the super like that's where we could have turned

it right Yeah.

Before it started, honestly.

Meryl Streep and A Cry in the Dark.

I don't remember that movie.

That's not, is that Dingo in the movie?

Damien Go ate my best.

Oh, that's it.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And then Sigourney got nominated for Girls in the Mist.

All right.

No best actor supporting, but best actress,

Cusack and Sigournia.

So Sigourney with the double nomination.

I was loving that happened.

Strong hair.

Ice is also one of the rare three women nominated from one movie.

Right.

Yeah.

I don't think that they're, it's like maybe all about Eve.

Chicago.

Yeah, it's

only Africa.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kathy Tina Jones and Frances McDormand.

You might have heard of her.

I have.

Mississippi Burning.

Pfeiffer.

Dangerous Liaisons.

And then Gina Davis wins for the accidental tourist.

Well, don't, don't, no, no.

Don't say it.

Some really good ones didn't get nominated that year.

I just want to point out.

I don't, I think Joan Cusack's really good in this movie.

I also don't think it's that important of a part.

And I can't believe she got nominated because

Elizabeth Perkins and Big.

She's pretty good.

Wouldn't that be lead?

I think you could throw that supporting.

Susan Sarandon, Bull Durham, not nominated?

Once again, that's lead.

Yeah.

But she should have been nominated.

Yeah.

I think you could have shoehorned it into supporting for credit.

I don't get, are you a category purist?

Not necessarily, but I don't think they played such fast and loose games with category fraud back in the

here's where it goes.

I don't mind it at the end of the day, especially if someone

hasn't gotten an award and can get an easy one in supporting where they can't compete and lead.

What about Hopkins?

16 minutes for Hannibal Elector, best actor.

16 minutes of the day.

That's fine with me.

Okay.

I support it.

Three men who didn't get nominated.

Charles Groden and Midnight Run.

That's tough.

Alan Rickman and Die Hard.

Also tough.

Malkovich and Dangerous liaisons what the fuck are we doing they nominated dangerous liaison for best picture and did not nominate malkovich is wild truly wild but what's funny is like you mentioned die hard um and and you say die hard to me now i was like well diehard's not gonna get nominated for something but working girl is such an improbable doesn't it seem like now working girl feels like i mean not in an honor year necessarily but but like

you're like oh this is just an 80s rom-com and i i think growing up it wouldn't have occurred to me that this was a six yeah i was

impressed by six but it was a massive movie.

Yeah.

Malkovich really hurts.

It does.

I don't understand that one.

We saw this movie when I was in college.

It was right when I was really getting into movies from like a bigger picture way.

And we just, we all left the theater and we're like, holy fucking, that movie was like, oh my, and we were like, Uma, Malkovich.

Yeah, I mean, just everything, but we were like, that was like, is that like the greatest acting forms of all?

Like, we didn't know any better.

Who was nominated?

So, best supporting: Kevin Klein won for Fish That Save Wanda, Al Guinness, Little Dorrit, Martin Landau, Tucker, the Man in His Dream, River Phoenix, running an update on that, and then Dean Stockwell married to the mob.

Okay, so there's just some old timers, they just they do and Kevin Klein, and Kevin Klein wins, yeah.

Um, Grodin, I think, bothers me the most, other than Malkovich, but regardless, $28 million budget for Working Girl made $103 million

and then lived on for the next 38 years of counting and its own.

Guys, we used to live in a better world

where Working Girl could make over $100 million and get nominated for six Oscars.

Yeah.

Well, Roger Ebert, four stars.

Raj.

The plot of Working Girl is put together like clockwork.

It carries you along while you're watching it, but reconstruct it later and you'll see the craftsmanship.

Yeah, it's called Cinderella, but that's fine.

And then he's saying,

Working Girl is Nichols returning to the top of his form and Griffith finding hers.

Agree.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Solid.

Yeah, because they didn't like Biloxi Blues very much.

No.

Yeah.

I defend Heartburn

big time, even though it was not well received.

I like to think about Heartburn more than I like watching Heartburn.

Craig, who's Melanie Griffith for your generation?

I mean, Dakota Johnson.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I think that's fair.

I mean, she kind of, you know, she's single.

Similar-ish beginnings.

Let's do the categories.

Okay.

We just saw a Dakota Johnson movie early this week together.

She has really shiny hair.

Yeah.

Okay.

But a similar smile.

She does.

But when we were talking about Don Johnson's hair, I was like, oh, maybe the hair is from Don Johnson.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the smiles from Melanie.

Really, really shiny.

What a legend.

Most re-watchable scene.

Opening credits.

I'm just throwing it out.

Absolutely.

Really good.

Carly Simon saw in the Statue of Liberty.

And you get to see all New York.

And then it's like, ah, they're the Twin Towers.

And then there's Staten Island Ferry.

Yeah.

and then it goes right into them on the ferry and the shoes, and this, you know, they get that in the first few minutes.

It's

feels like it's cheesy.

Well, it's on my list.

No, we have a bunch.

I don't know.

It feels like it's going to be cheesy, and then it's not cheesy.

It's like, I'm actually enjoying this little.

And you liked it both times because you said you liked watching this movie the second time more than the first time.

Yeah.

Did you, what did you bump?

Because I was just.

Every time it's like the hair and the clothes.

Yeah.

It's like, oh my God, this movie feels.

Yeah.

My son walked by the TV at one point.

He's like, the fuck is this movie?

He was just completely confused by it.

He's like, is this a Mad Match movie?

Are you watching?

Sure.

What is it?

Yeah.

All right.

Next one I have is Bob from Arbitrage in the Limo with Tess.

Cause it's so fascinating to see Spacey.

We're going to party.

I'm starting a new category.

The Kevin Spacey doing cocaine, showing porn, and inappropriately sexually harassing Tess in a limo award for craziest foreshadowing of a real-life event.

Yeah, yeah, yes.

I don't know if we'll ever hit that category out again.

I have it in what aged the best.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like, wow.

They knew.

Wow.

Mike Nichols, perceptive.

I really like that when she types in David Lutz is a sleazoid pimp with a tiny little dick.

Sleazoid pimp is incredible.

It's one of my most 1987 things.

Yeah.

The word sleazoid, which we don't use anymore.

And that's said.

Tess in Sigourney's office.

I'm just going to call her Sigourney throughout the movie.

Even though she's Catherine.

She's talking German?

Yeah.

Oh, sure.

When she calls to make the

resurrection,

she's just really turning it on, but then gives the Tess,

you don't get anywhere in this world by waiting for what you want to come to you.

Make it happen.

While wearing her ski boots over an eyelashes.

Yeah.

Before she gets on the phone and starts speaking German, she says, well, did you tell them it was me?

Right.

Which is just like, that's some special energy to bring to the world.

I also like how Melanie Griffith is reacting off of what a pompous, like, piece of shit boss she is, but she's just kind of

trying to absorb and she's actually like genuinely interested in her answers.

I really like when she asks Sigourney, like, well, what happens if he doesn't propose?

And Sigourney goes, I really don't think that's a variable.

Right.

And I'm me.

So.

Also, good office.

Get a nice little shot.

You can hear the fairy in the background.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right.

So you got that.

Tess goes to the bar and meets Harrison Ford.

That's mine, obviously.

That's my number one.

100%.

I have a head for business and a bod for soon.

Yeah.

All-timer.

I'd be lifted for you.

Why, do you know me?

Don't, nope.

But I promised myself that when I saw you, I would get to know you.

You're the first woman I've seen in one of these damn things that dresses like a woman, not like a woman thinks a man would dress if he was a woman.

Thank you, I guess.

What are you doing here?

Actually, I'm looking for someone myself.

His name is Jack Trainer.

He works at Deweystone.

Do you know if he's here?

Why are you looking for him?

You're the first woman I've seen at one of these things that dresses like a woman, not like a woman thinks a man would dress.

Yeah.

I think that's a good line.

The costuming throughout is great, but you see all the other women are in their business suits.

And they clock her and look at her, like, what's wrong with her?

She shows up and thinking that she completely misdressed for this occasion, which she kind of did, but she caught the eye.

She looks great.

I I think that's the best.

She's the best.

She looks incredible.

And really good Harrison Ford double take shot.

Yeah.

This scene's really good.

I, this has one of my favorite moves that you can do in a rom-com.

The guy

not saying who he is.

Oh, yeah.

When he meets our lead character is just like, that works 98% of the time.

The costume designer, Anne Roth, one of the things that she said was like, I cheated with that dress.

She's like, because no way could Sigourney Weaver wear that dress because it's way too short on her.

She's

that it would just look silly on her but she's like who cares yeah it's fine craig when you write your ai rom-com okay put in something about the guy who meets the lead character and lies to her doesn't admit that he's the character yeah i didn't tell liz who i was when i met her

she's like don't you work the ringers like no

um

the uh

I don't, maybe I might be alone on this for a rewatchable scene, but I like the party when Nick and Tess get in the fight after.

And he goes, who the fuck died and made you, Grace Kelly?

And then she comes back with, I am that steak.

You can't just order me.

Yeah.

It's just fucking great screenwriting, but I like that scene.

I like when they fight.

It's good.

She looks good in that one, too.

Because the incident where they had to shut down production happened on Staten Island, the whole time I was just watching, you're like, is this the one?

Is this the one?

I don't think that that's the one.

I think it's when she's, they're watching.

Yeah.

You think it's the wedding?

No, I think it was the wedding because they had, that was the one they had to delay by a day.

Oh, it wasn't.

But I think it was the wedding where she's dressed in the bridesmaid's outfit.

Do you think she was so tanked because she couldn't stand being in that bright turquoise bridesmaid outfit?

It might have been that was tough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I really loved every single moment of the Luau wedding party.

Yeah, of course.

The drinks are great.

I like the

wedding.

I went to a wedding over Memorial Day and they played that song.

And I was like, this is a working girl wedding song.

Where am I?

Why didn't you have a Luau wedding?

Because we didn't dream big enough.

You know, any regrets?

Would you do it over Memorial Day?

Because Zach planned it.

So I, you know, I wanted to do City Hall and he planned the wedding, but maybe we should do a Renewal of Vows, Luau.

A renewal of vows.

Oh, great.

Can Joanna not be invited?

Please.

I also, I never, I didn't have a 40th birthday party.

So maybe it can be 40th birthday, vow, renewal, luau situation.

Yeah, let's go.

Maybe the tall, like just red 40 drinks, whatever it is that has a boring drinking with the straws from duck and donuts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Craig, have you ever been to a themed wedding?

No.

See, I think this was a 70s, 80s thing that went away because we took weddings less seriously when I was a kid.

Yeah, well, and then they eventually had to become these big, serious, major events.

I love that when the bride enters the bathroom in tears, she's like, my husband says it looks like Nicaragua.

Steve, that did we go too big?

We get a Ricky Lake cameo out of nowhere.

DuCovne's in this too.

DuCovne's in the scene when they fight.

He's also in the like scene.

Oh, he's in the wedding too?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

DuCovne's got this slick back hair thing going on.

It's his couch, Mal and the Babysitter's Dead hair.

Yeah.

I like when she dances with Trask too.

I like Trask.

I think he's good.

Yeah.

A couple more.

Jack.

telling her where he got his scar.

You guys talked about that scene earlier.

Sure.

No, no, no.

That's a different shirtless scene.

Yeah.

When after he's come back from Memphis and he's at the office

and he's on the phone.

And so he's doing like the like gym class, change the shirt while the phone thing, you know, it's great.

And all the ladies in the office beyond out through the window start cheering to him.

And he's like, yeah.

That was,

you know,

you like,

you imagine what offices are like

watching these things.

So growing up watching like the Mary Tyler Moore show, I was like, okay, you always have a bottle of booze in the bottom drawer of your desk.

And then watching this, I was like, and you have fresh shirts, of course, in case you just flew back from Memphis.

And shoes and sneakers.

Yeah.

All kinds of things.

Yeah.

Nobody would steal anything.

I thought it was believable post-coitis bed talk with them.

They usually ruin those scenes in rom-coms or in Top Gen Mavericks.

I mean, well,

just laughing hysterically.

My favorite.

Craig, we might have to break that scene down on Ringer Movies.

Yeah.

I just, I have so many thoughts.

It's one of the funniest two-minute scenes of this century.

It's really, really good.

A couple more.

Jack visits Catherine with Tess hiding in the apartment.

I was like that.

We have to do the three company.

Can Big Jack come out to play makes me laugh.

The boardroom showdown.

Got that.

The elevator showdown.

Yeah.

And then

I really like when she meets the new assistant at the end.

Oh, yeah.

And that whole interaction is.

Yeah, yeah.

Amy Aquino.

Yeah.

I expect you to call me Tess.

I don't expect you to fetch me coffee unless you're getting some for yourself.

And

the rest will just make up as we go along.

Okay?

Says the thing about only get me coffee if you're also getting coffee.

Whatever she says.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just like, oh, this is good.

She's learning lessons.

And the rest will make it up as we go along.

Yeah.

And then Mike Nichols is like, but don't get too excited and just hand it out.

You're just a rotten face.

Yeah, you're just a mouse in the chat.

All right.

So what's your most re-watchable?

Can I add one?

Yeah.

So after they meet, Harrison Ford and Tess meet,

and then she passes out from the Vallium, and he takes her home and props her up in the chair, and then is doing like a whole solo date with her.

Would you like a nightcap?

I guess not.

Uh,

I guess it's too late for coffee.

Herb tea.

Herb tea.

I don't have any.

It always sounds good when people offer it to me when I'm in your shape.

He's like, Would you like some nightcap?

Would you like some tea?

And she's flapping over.

He is so funny.

And he is just, I mean, he is acting against, you know, Melanie Griffith as a rag.

He's very funny.

I do have it under what age the worst.

Sure.

But.

But he didn't.

And in the end, he did the right thing, mostly.

He took off her dress, which he didn't need to do, got in the bed with her while he is also naked.

I'm saying, put her on your

couch.

We don't know if he's naked.

I'm with

a bare shirt, no shirt.

So I had a head for what's age the worst for this whole thing that they just wouldn't have this scene in the movie now.

Yeah, that's true.

But it was kind of, there's kind of an innocent situation.

When he says, Would you like a nightcap?

No.

And he's like, Would you like to, he's like, this always makes me feel better when I'm in your position.

And it's funny.

It's really funny.

That's very funny.

That's the thing about

the apartment may be not clean.

And I don't mind, but people become like, it's very funny.

It's really, really good here.

Yes, and Ford.

It's very good.

And good physical comedy.

I would like to add the farce of...

Melanie Griffith pretending to be the boss, Joan Cusack pretending to be her secretary, while Laura John's trying to get in.

Orson Ford's in the office.

So what do you have for Musarach?

I mean, I'm the opening.

I think it's, I think the opening.

That's hard, though.

With the wedding and then also the elevators.

Do I have to pick the whole movie?

You have to pick.

Okay.

Okay.

The elevators.

The elevators is so good.

Nobody's ever asked that on a rewatchables.

I know, but I'm so excited.

It took me like my second watch to find any, like, what aged poorly.

So that's too happy.

Yeah.

I picked the wedding.

I'm not the one.

No, I picked the elevator.

No, I picked the elevator at the end.

Okay.

What do you have, Joanna?

The meet cute at the bar.

Yeah.

It's really good.

It's really good.

I don't think he'd be ordering gold tequila other than that 10 out of 10, no notes.

I have the bar.

Okay.

Yeah.

What's the most 1988 thing about this movie?

I have seven candidates, but give me your best one.

The eyeshadow.

The hair.

Yeah.

So

I had all the haircuts.

Yeah.

The makeup and the eyeshadow.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

When they have sex and they're undressing each other in his apartment and she's got like a translucent blouse on, but you can't see the shoulder pads through the translucent bath.

Yeah, that's shoulder pads.

I have a couple more runners up because the hair is the answer.

I feel great.

Yeah.

What about the powder blue ruffled tucks?

Uh, look for the wedding.

Sure.

The twin towers, sadly.

Yeah.

Sure.

Uh, multiple women calling themselves secretary.

Yes, that's true.

I don't think that word's been said in 15 years.

You make quite a correct set.

Yeah.

And if it's okay, I prefer assistant.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Lark cigarettes oh oh good one i don't know what i don't know what those are i don't think either um

a lead movie character regularly reading newspapers and magazines what about radio being a radio thing

a thing but uh my number one other than the hair is catherine's exercise bike oh yeah that that uh she gets on it that thing looks like it's out of like 1884.

It's very good.

Like, I think Taylor Sheridan used it for one of his go back shows.

I think I can't even, it looked like it weighed 140 pounds.

It's like made of wood.

I mean, it's clever, though, because you're also like, you're sort of doing a crunch.

You're using the core as you're peddling.

It looks hard.

And they have like the old mid-80s TV with like the VCR on it.

It was like, it's just the most 80s scene in all the movies.

Yeah.

All the computer monitors.

Yeah.

All the printouts.

Oh, yeah.

The computers.

The email.

Yeah.

All that stuff.

Okay.

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and the way they use it you know when the chandelier is coming when they're yeah coming down and it's just like the organ, like you're in a church, but it's let the river run and like, and the

rom-com gospel music.

It's really, yeah, but it's really, really well done.

And I do also think like that, like the bigness of it, that first shot of the Statue of Liberty and got all the drums going.

And it's like, oh, okay, we're.

I'll go further.

It shouldn't work.

Yeah.

It should have, it should have failed.

Yeah, but

we're going to make rom-com gospel music and that should just be like, that shouldn't work.

Yeah.

And it works.

It works.

Gets me.

I'm singing it, walking inside.

i love it that gets stuck in my head all the time that song gets stuck in my head it's anthemic yeah it's what do you have supportive work husband jack trainer yeah that's great oh yeah he liked when they were making toast together it was so cute in the kitchen's in the lake and he packs her a lunch box which he got monogrammed very quickly i'm still waiting for my first yeah when did traps say report to my office tomorrow morning

they do have to go back and like monitor their contracts it seems like they've been living together for a little while when she right.

I'm also like, How did you get you know, she had said lunch rolls and everything or something like that?

Do you and Zach like share a toast and it pops out of the toaster and you butter it and then he goes to she honey?

He does bring me coffee though, so yeah, really, yeah, he does every morning.

Yeah, it is very nice, and he's the barista.

Zach plans weddings and brings you coffee, yeah, it's really a renaissance band.

Full package, full package.

Um,

I have for what stage the best other than David DeCovney's cameo, and I really love the round table that they have near the end of the movie.

It's just, oh, yeah.

I was almost thinking about it for the ringer because you do like a 12-person podcast with this giant roundtable.

What's aged the best?

Jack's tequila gold order, which seemed really rambunctious in the late 80s.

Like you ordered tequila, it was basically like doing cocaine.

Yeah, but tequila was

how she reacts.

But just that he was a tequila guy.

Now it's like tequila's, you know, one of the go-to.

That's my drink, tequila.

But in the 80s,

yeah.

I'm telling you,

in the 80s, people were afraid of tequila.

Yeah, it was like you drink tequila, blackout.

Yeah.

I don't even know what tequila gold is.

I feel like you made it up.

It's cheaper than it, you know, what I think a Jack trainer would order.

Jack being on tequila early, though.

It was also a double, and he got two of them.

So they really had four shots in 10 seconds.

Yeah.

And she had taken four values.

I should have checked the milligrams.

Live and learn.

Live and learn.

What's age the best?

This will be my Harrison Ford contribution to whatever.

Great clothes in this movie by him.

I was admiring all of the outfits and the tie choices.

It wasn't 1988 at all.

It actually felt like you could wear a lot of those suits.

I was impressed.

I mean, Joanna mentioned Anne Roth did the costumes, who is like a legend.

And like across the board.

Solid colors for the most part.

But I mean, because once Tess has her makeover, it's like really communicating something both like very 80s, but very different about who that character is or who that character is trying to be.

Like Sigurdin Weaver's entire closet is so all of her secret suits.

Yeah, the details are spot on and they really do make the characters.

But I agree that he looks great.

His overcoat, he's got a scarf, you know, John's scarf.

Richard Gere and Pretty Woman, also great clothes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like a sneaky thing when you have like the rom-com guy who's got to be a wealthy guy.

The clothes have to work.

And the clothes fit, which I would just give a note to all men now.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

You can find a tailor.

Clothes don't fit anymore.

I have for what saves the best, the Melanie Griffith hot mess, stealth smart baby voice archetype.

Okay.

As a movie character, I'm always in.

Who else you got?

Yeah, I don't know.

It's just, I'm in when it's like, oh, I'm going to underestimate, I'm going to underestimate her.

And there's way more going on here, but nobody sees it.

But we, the audience, see it, but nobody else does yet.

It just works.

Yeah.

Craig, add that to the rom-com.

Yeah.

I mean, I got

a Princess Diaries.

Yeah.

It's another one.

Sure.

Well, I guess she's not really baby voice.

She's just a teenager.

Well, but she doesn't believe in herself.

Devil War is proud of them.

Sure, that's true.

When Meryl Streep's just ripping her a new one.

Yeah.

Before the makeover.

Yeah.

What's Age of Best?

Trying to guess which scenes Melanie Griffith filmed right after she was out 4:30 in the morning.

It's weirdly like a great part of rewatching this movie.

And you can win that game, actually.

You can.

How about this tidbit?

I don't know where, what category to put this, but I'll put it in What's Age the Best.

Working Girl became an nbc series in 1990 because this is what we did in the 80s and early 90s we a movie was successful and they had no idea before they turned them into broadway musicals right um do you know who starred as test i do not i don't will you give us a hint

want to play 20 questions yeah okay go ahead

um brunette or blonde well you have to say oh i was gonna say is she blonde is she blonde no no okay is she brunette yes Okay.

Okay.

Is she still working today?

Yes.

Is she more of a TV?

Is she a TV actress?

No.

Has she been in a Rewatchables movie?

Yes.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Has she won an Oscar?

This is really fun.

Yeah.

She won an Oscar.

Yes.

Okay.

Dark hair has won an Oscar, has been a Rewatchables movie.

Still working.

um i'm like my hands i'm like controlling them under the table i'm like i can't i want to reach for my computer so that's like okay um it's not sandra bullock because she's not really still working um it is sandra bullock sandra bullock she's not working i mean well she hasn't been working she hasn't made a movie in a long time she has her own life listen people make choices but it's sandra bullock take the win sandra bullock take the win okay wow okay sandra bullock 12 episodes of working girl yeah somewhere on youtube wow okay yeah there you go does she have the hair craig does she have the hair and the makeup and everything that i don't know i'll look that up though okay

what was her asker i forget blind side

oh yeah yeah

yeah you ready for that rewashable that's van van's already yeah van didn't just request to be on it he's just like dude i have to be on it yeah yeah um

What's age the best this quote?

Never burn bridges today's junior prick tomorrow's senior partner.

Yeah.

And then I had the officer and a gentleman homage when they're kissing and one of the secretaries says, way to go, Texas.

Way to go.

Which is like,

that could either age the worst or the best.

No, no, I love it.

It's really good.

It's great.

Big Hoona Burger Award for best use of fruit or drink.

I'll give you champagne on Spacey or the Dim Sum Dumplings.

Dim sum dumpling,

the souvlaki.

Sure.

I mean, I was going to say tequila.

Tequila shots.

Wedding drinks.

Okay.

And then the wedding.

The wedding is the other one.

Oh, that's the winner.

The wedding drinks.

Okay, fair.

What do you have for Great Shot Gorda?

It's the opening credits, right?

I was going to say the last shot.

That last shot when she is like, because it is like a whole idea about the movie.

And it is otherwise like not a sacrum movie, but I think that last shot adds like a lot of ideas to what you're supposed to take away from it.

And you also like.

Think about it.

You know, it's famous, right?

It's the finest.

It's just her.

And that's everyone.

That is the most famous shot in the movie, I think, or her on the ferry at some point.

I would say there's a after

Baldwin cheats on her, and I think basically she spends the night on the ferry.

Sure.

There's a shot of her on the ferry with just like a fog machine behind it.

And then you get this crazy,

it's a helicopter shot over the water into the night skyline, but it's sped up.

So it looks like a drone doing it.

It almost looks fake.

Yeah.

It's cool.

Yeah.

Kid Cody Pursuit of Happiness Award, Best Needle Drop.

I'll give you Lady in Red by Krista Bird.

Yeah.

Or the Pointer Sisters was so excited.

So Let the River Run is not eligible.

Not eligible.

Okay.

It's obviously Lady in Red.

It's definitely Lady in Red.

They milk it too.

You know, they give you like a long, long intro.

And you're just like, oh my God, is this really?

They're doing Lady Red in Red the whole time.

And then they dance.

That's one of those karaoke songs that it's almost weird if somebody picks it where they're not almost.

I've never seen you loot.

You're like, what's this guy doing?

So you have to really

commit to it.

Also, like everyone has to have half

at that point.

Half hour with Lady in Red.

Fun fact, did you you know that, I'm sure you did,

that they first cut the opening to The Eagles' Witchy Woman and everyone liked it.

And Mike Nichols told Carly Simon that, and she's like, How dare you?

I can't.

Up to their game.

That absolutely ruins the movie.

If it's Witchy Woman,

that would be so bad.

Yeah, that Mike Nichols called her.

He's like,

we're going to use it at the end, but we're going to split it up.

It really fucks the movie up.

Yeah.

The Eagles Witchy Woman.

Ooh, Witchy Woman.

It's a good song, but not

for that.

Chess Rockwell, Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name.

Can I submit Doreen D'Amucci?

It wasn't me popping Doreen D'Amucci in our bed.

Doreen De Mucci.

Orange Mask is a good runner-up.

Doreen DaMucci.

I'm so happy to give this out with Amanda Dobbins here.

The Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Piece of Real Estate.

Yeah, this is one of the great categories.

Listen, this is like one of my great career achievements that this career exists.

So you would think that I would go for the townhouse, and it is a beautiful townhouse.

However, when you see the exterior shots, it appears to be like on an avenue.

I don't know whether that's Madison or Lex, but it looks a little busy.

Yeah.

The office.

That's what I was going to say.

Catherine Parker's office with that, with the view.

I mean, the full harbor, like she has a corner, so she gets both Governor's Island and the Statue of Liberty.

I don't know how a 30-year-old transferring down from Boston is getting that office, but it's family money.

Yeah.

Well, still, it's really-I knew that was going to be the answer.

Yeah, of course.

Okay.

It's incredible.

Amanda's still up because you have a flex category.

Okay, all right.

So I know what I'm going to do.

It is, I just have to read the full thing.

It is the Vincent Chase award for, are we sure this character was actually good at his job?

Which goes to literally every single person in this movie besides Tess.

What are we doing here?

Okay.

Jack Trainer, like, has hadn't not had an idea in 10 years.

He desperately needs it, but he's also not going to take the meeting at the work thing.

He just wants to go drink with someone else instead.

Then all he has to do is call someone in Memphis and be like, hey, come to

Gladhends.

Sure, that's true.

But here's what I'm saying.

That's like half a day's work.

Meanwhile, Catherine gets promoted or transferred down from Boston, immediately goes on a ski vacation, you know?

Also is not bringing any ideas to the table as far as I can tell.

Everyone else, all of the traskers.

Not sold around any of the trash people.

They're just like, he's not going to do that.

And then they get a phone ring call.

That's such a good scene.

It's like, no one has ideas.

No one's doing anything.

Besides, like, Nora Dunn is trying to do things, but her printer's not working.

Yeah.

And also, her party ideas are bad.

They are bad.

So I just,

I mean, I guess mergers and acquisitions, I'm not sure if they're good at their jobs.

Arbitrage isn't doing well.

No, no, certainly not.

Yeah, that's a good point on Jack.

Yeah.

I expected more from Jack class of 1970.

I don't know.

Jack should have asked one question.

Sure.

I mean, that ruins the premise of the movie, but like one question of like, hey, has anyone heard of Tess?

Yeah.

McGill?

Have you worked with her before?

Should I work with her?

Should the fact that I'm sort of in a relationship with her colleague have

any impact

going on here?

Maybe I should.

Wouldn't Jack be like, Tess, where'd you go to college?

Where'd you go to business school?

Where are you from?

School of Hod Knocks.

School of Life.

That's a good one, Amanda.

Thank you.

I have the, I don't know if I put this in the rundown for you all, but the Tom Cruise Which End Do I Light award for terrible on-screen smoking goes to Sigourney in the office, doesn't actually put the cigarette in her mouth, does the classic, the character supposed to be smoking,

does one of these, but when you see like there's no

air between it.

It's almost like she was so bad at it that they tried to cut it out that they didn't have anything else for that one scene because she only is smoking in that one scene and they barely show it.

And that's it.

It might also be a character decision where they're like, She

would not be as smart, but it seems like she's just not good at it.

Not what they did.

It's okay.

She's good at other things.

The Butch's Girlfriend Award for week link of the film.

What do you have?

I don't think there is one.

What do you have?

I mean, Doreen.

Doreen DeMucci just having sex with Alc Baldwin.

Right.

Showing up and

the reaction.

I don't know if you're supposed to be looking at her face in an emotional reaction.

No, no, no, no, no.

Once they catch her in the bedroom.

But like her fake crying

as she is

Alec Baldwin.

Yeah.

It's not believable.

Okay.

Shouts fired up.

That's a really good candidate.

Thank you.

Don't get mad until I finish what I say here.

Okay.

Uh-oh.

It's not too late.

It's not too late to not do it.

No, don't get mad.

Is this the one where you were gleefully saying earlier you are excited to piss us off about?

No.

This is an absolutely absurd premise for a movie.

It's absurd.

So is diehard.

Yeah.

I said,

you got to let me finish.

And they pulled it off and it works.

Yeah.

It is a nine.

I have it as a 9.6 out of 10 on the no fucking way scale that Tess is able, her boss goes away and she's just able to pull off like basically a merger with Trask and she doesn't have an office and she's just in her office and nobody else in the i mean if you actually like really look at this it's absurd

oh wow oh it's a set movie swayzee disagrees

do we want to get that no we'll fix it later um

i'm on a i'm on a heater okay

Look, most movies are absurd.

Pretty woman's absurd.

Most movies that we love are absurd.

I just want to point out that this movie, fundamentally, is absolutely absurd that she pulls this off and then they're like

Swayze's furious.

This is what your take did to the studio.

My take, Swayze.

I think we leave that.

Anyway,

I agree with you.

It's absurd.

It sticks with my point that were anyone good at their job, then maybe they would notice what's going on here.

You know?

First of all, she doesn't matter.

She's fired immediately.

Yeah.

You're like, wait,

you're a secretary and you just arranged this merger and then we caught you.

Like, pack your bag.

How does nobody in the office leak it?

Like, everybody is seeing her pretend for two weeks.

No one's talking about it.

If nobody's so good, you actually just buy into it.

It's like, but Pretty Woman's the same way where you're like, yeah, I think this would happen.

I think we'd fall in love with this hooker on Hollywood Bull.

100% matters if the premise for a movie is absurd, if the

human emotion works.

Right.

Okay.

What's age the worst?

I have a lot.

Okay.

This is a good one.

You'd still be able to do your job in 2025 with a broken leg.

Easily.

Oh, remote work.

Right.

Remote work is like, she's fine.

Remote work just ruins this movie.

LinkedIn.

She's on SARS.

She's texting.

I think she could be making phone calls and having ideas, but she's like hard to get a burning in the leg.

Also, why can't you fly home with a broken leg?

Yeah, that's boning a doctor.

You got to be thankful for our medical innovations.

Okay.

Yeah.

Sure.

I have

1988, you couldn't fly home.

It was hard, okay?

I have just about everyone's hair except Harrison Ford.

Yeah.

Probably nine out of 10 hairdos and even DuCovny.

How women were treated in the workplace has not aged well.

Someone reading Motor Trend magazine in bed

positive that doesn't happen.

It was the Lamborghini edition.

Yeah.

Motor Trend magazine.

Yeah.

Sad shots of the Staten Island Fairy.

It hasn't aged well?

No, just,

I don't know, fairies, like just.

I had a colleague who,

like an editor at Vanity Fair, and he used to say that he took the Staten Island Fairy in and he would talk about how he could like hear Carly Simon Mike playing in his head.

Yeah.

And the fairy would come in.

Alec Baldwin, whatever look he has at this point in his career.

So is he handsome in 1988?

What's your relationship with him?

Because to me, he looks like he'd be playing on the Pittsburgh Penguins.

He does, but it's like he looks like a hockey player.

Well, it's like it's a styling issue.

The hair and the way that the amount of hair that's being shown to us.

Yeah.

But in that, the wedding scene, like where he's in the top.

He's going handsome.

handsome.

I mean,

you see his face.

When he's clean-shaven, I'm like, this is a very handsome man.

You know, he looks not my tall.

All three of his brothers at the same time.

Yeah.

And then he grew out of it and started to look like Alec Baldwin.

I think he's greaseball handsome.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Where do you stand on test not wiping the hot dog crumb on off of Jack's mouth?

Because it drives me crazy when I watch this movie.

I think it's Sadziki.

Oh, yeah.

Whatever it is.

Whatever the white.

I like it.

It's a nice touch.

Yeah, I really like that it's there.

Yeah.

But that she doesn't fix it.

They're not ready for that yet.

They're not there.

You know,

she can't let her guard down yet.

What do you make of Jack not washing his hands after he uses the restroom and then he does like one of these with his finger in his mouth?

I didn't like that at all.

Yeah.

Didn't like that at all.

What do you, Yanny?

Would say you're worse?

Other than when everything would come.

You know, Joe alluded to some of this, but sleeping together before you close the deal.

It's like,

just, you know, girl boss-wise, that's not what we would be doing anymore.

You got to wait.

But a kiss so good, you drop your briefcase.

That's fine.

Is it fine?

I don't.

I don't know.

I don't hate their consenting adults.

I don't hate that.

I just like.

It's also a little bit like I always feel this way when like Travis Kelsey is reported to have like stayed at Taylor Swift's house the night before like a game.

I'm like, you guys have a big meeting the next day, like eyes on the ball.

You know what I'm saying?

She's just has high standards.

I see it.

The other, the other thing I have is just like the concept of like, of, of hard copies, of, of making records of things, like whether it's the dictaphone or the day planner yeah like great movie you know plot devices but just really comes down to bite everyone in the ass and how you're just doing this all on your phone where no one else has access catherine never knows yeah you don't do the cloud none of this happens yeah it's true never do the cloud yeah i really think he could have just left her dress on that's all i'm saying he wasn't he carried her up the stairs and that's great it's at least no you're right to take her dress you're right

i think it's fair yeah i think we've solved that yeah the Ruffalo Hannah Rubinik Perch and Jover acting were clearly Kevin's face.

Kevin's face.

I mean, he's just of an arbitrator.

All-time dialogue.

Yeah.

What do you have for a flex, Joanna?

Okay.

I contemplated

the Jamie Lee Curtis Unnecessary Denudity Award for the topless vacuuming, but it's such a mine.

Yeah.

It's okay.

I mean, it's, and apparently it was Melody Griffiths' idea.

Oh, I was going to ask about that.

Yeah.

Apparently she was like, this is what I would do.

And Reich Nichols is like, okay.

She's right out of the bender.

How'd you, Melanie Griffiths was lit.

Yeah.

She's just like, I wouldn't put a shirt on.

He's like, sounds great.

I mean, you do get overheated, you know, and you feel it going for the vacuum.

Why is she feeling?

No reason.

Well, that's just to feel glamorous.

You know, sometimes you need it.

But I am going to actually, my actual word is the okay, motherfucker, exact moment when the movie goes up a notch.

And it's at 36 minutes and four seconds when Harrison Ford aims his lopsided smile at Melly Griffith's legs and enters the story.

That's it.

36 minutes, four seconds in.

Nice, tight close-up.

Yeah, he looks great.

And he just gives the little lopsided Harrison Ford's and we're off to the races.

I like it.

The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford's hottest take award.

Amanda gave hers.

What do you have?

I had this should have won best picture of a rainman.

Yeah.

Okay.

Agree.

Yeah.

I'm not even sure that's a hot take.

Great.

That's my tepid take.

No, I think you're right.

I really worked on this one.

I feel like I've done this before.

I'm just getting my posture ready.

The Pointer Sisters.

I'm so excited.

Yeah.

Is secretly the most important pop culture song of all time.

Okay.

It's in National Lampoon's Vacation in a pivotal Christy Brinkley scene.

Right.

It's in Beverly Hills Cop.

Okay.

It's in, we covered this in the Miami Vice Calderon's Revenge episode.

The only TV show we've ever done on the rewatchable is me and CR.

It is an absolutely crucial

point in this Miami Vice episode.

That's one of the most important episodes of the 80s.

Yeah.

It's in the second best.

The NBA had these, it's fantastic commercials that they ran that really made the league more likable.

And the best one ever was one-on-one with Holland Oats, where they would just show all these slow motion.

The second best one ever was, I'm so excited with Pointer Sister.

It was it also the 80s?

80s.

Yeah.

So my question is, is that

80s?

Are you going to build their bridge to our general

song of all time?

Yeah.

Of that decade.

I said pop culture.

Yeah.

For the 20th century.

Yeah.

I'll go there because it's hot as take.

Yeah.

Because you have working girl important.

Yeah.

And everything culminates in the save by the bell caffeine pill sex yes of course yes this is this is a 10-year run and it's 10 years

it's 10 years of this goes into major movies major tv shows and the nba and that same song and elizabeth barkley six times yeah it's a great take thank you yeah i love it really good

casting what ifs okay

At one point, this movie was supposed to be directed by Jim Bridges, starring Demi Moore.

Absolutely not.

Demi Moore, if she's Jules and and St.

Almost Fire, like, I'm not saying better than Melanie Griffith.

I'm just saying I'm not giving it a chance.

Raspy, kind of looks like she's been out the night before.

Little puffy face.

I can see it.

I can see it.

But that version was.

Damanda's horrifying.

No.

Very different.

I am horrifying.

I mean, it's hard for me to imagine anyone but Melanie Griffith, but also Demi Moore.

I've realized is sort of like the generational divide for me.

Like I've, I've seen all the movies.

They were handed down to me, but I was not conscious she was like Demi Moore, like the big star.

It would be Jules from St.

Almost Violet Demi Moore.

And so I was learning about it all after the fact.

And I would say like her biggest celebrity moment to me is still the Vanity Fair number where she's very pregnant.

So you're later.

Yeah.

So I just, I don't always like get it.

Well, so the thing, the reason I think it would have worked is because 80s Demi Moore, who was battling a lot of the same stuff Melanie Griffith was, I think brings some baggage into it.

Would you also have a scene where she's alone in a room with just a fan on her as she is in St.

Almost Finn?

With all the windows open.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would.

Yeah.

Okay.

Molly Ringwald.

Apparently, the audition was deemed too young.

I mean, they auditioned everybody, including they thought about Michelle Pfeiffer and Madonna.

Scott Rudin was running Fox, which I don't think I knew, and was really pushing for Shelly Long, who was red hot on shares.

They squashed that.

Lorraine Brocco wrote in her memoir that she thought she nailed the audition and didn't get it.

That was wildly interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would love Lorraine Bracco in this movie.

Yeah.

yeah she does um someone to watch over me right around the same time um nichols finally said it i'm dropping out if we don't hire melanie griffith so they do the casting credits thing then there's this whole weird

lawrence casten wanted to he was testing that accidental tourist part yeah gina davis and melanie griffith are both for the part

and Scott Rudin says, if she tests for another movie, she's out for Working Girl.

And this executive producer, producer carlyle tells melany griffith whoever plays muriel and accidental tourist could win the academy award and whoever does working girl would be a star

this is in the oral history from 30 years later and then

she says i want to be a star goes for working girl and then at the academy awards for whatever reason melany griffith hands the oscar to gina davis she's the one presenting

accidental tourists to the other part she didn't go for and i would just say that gina davis was both an oscar winner and a star So that wasn't the top-tier advice.

You're talking to somebody who bought Gina Davis stock as early as it could go.

And she was just buried in Fletch.

We argued about this on Fletch, and it was the maddest CR has ever been on a Maru Watchables.

That Gina Davis should have been the lead in Fletch, not Dana Willer and Nicholson.

And the CR got really mad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway.

Can we, can I just add a few more casting what ifs?

Yeah, because I couldn't tell how much was 100% true, but go.

I sort of of cross-checked that THR thing that you pulled from and also the Nichols biography.

Wooppy Goldberg was someone they were considering because Nichols did.

Nichols did her stand-up show.

Goldie Han.

Too old.

Was she too old at that point?

Yeah, she's too old at that point.

Okay.

She did Private Benjamin in 1980.

No, I know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, she's like in her 40s at that point.

Meg Ryan.

Meg Ryan, maybe.

I don't know if she could have pulled off the accent and the baggage part.

And not the sex appeal in the same way.

This movie has a lot of sex in it for a romantic comedy.

Share.

No.

Okay.

Thanks for coming.

Are you not?

You're not a Moonstruck person?

You don't like Moonstruck?

She's just shy.

Sure.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

Wow.

Not for this.

Not for the share.

You don't like.

No, I agree with you.

She brings too much share.

She's still a share.

She's like, share everything.

I don't.

I love Moonstruck.

I love Moonstruck.

Mermaids.

Incredibly important.

Yeah, why is it that you guys in the theater?

When I was like five.

Cher was like incredibly famous in the 80s.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I don't.

I think she's too famous.

I completely agree with you for this role.

I was a big Sonny and Cher guy.

I thought that that was a reaction to Moonstruck, and I was a little concerned.

No, Moonstruck's good.

Wonderful.

Yeah.

Okay.

I just wouldn't buy her as test.

Agree.

Best, that guy.

Oliver Platt counts according to Craig's rule that just because we call him Oliver Platt, that doesn't mean anyone under 35 knows who Oliver Platt is.

Okay.

but that's not the winner of this it's either the bad guy from beverly hills cop three who's one of the two people trash right yeah right

i don't even know what that guy's name is but i'm like hey it's the bad guy

or that guy who worked for the evil law firm in philadelphia and had second thoughts about maybe ratting out jason robarts and then on the stand he kind of kind of uh

kind of is on the tongue side.

He's just in the movie.

And I was like, that guy.

That guy.

so i almost feel like that makes him the winner because i don't even remember what part of this movie yeah um

what about caroline aaron who plays dr marsha fieldstone in sleepless in seattle and is also the mom on the marvelous mrs maze oh it's a really really good one yeah yeah

dion waiters a word

joan cusack eligible okay i don't think she's in it that much

She's

in it for 12 minutes.

I mean,

Joan Cusack would be a classic Deion Winders.

May I ask if Carly Simon is eligible?

She's not eligible.

Okay, well, what about Olympia Dukakis?

I thought I was doing something.

She's great.

Yeah.

Nora Dunne.

Olympia Dukakis is one scene.

Yeah.

Stacy.

Robert Easton, who plays Armbestur, who is the like, who is the guy in the deal with the like

Colonel Sanders shirt and accent.

Yeah, has like one scene.

And he's just like.

Metro's owner.

Yeah, Metro's owner.

Yeah.

The member's owner.

I think the answer is probably Nora Dunn.

She's very good.

She's very threatening.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She was also really good at that specific kind of part yeah

recasting couch director city i

what's her name d'nucci what's her

what's that doreen

d'mucci yeah yeah could we have gotten could we have snuck uh like a young marissa tomay in that part or could we have like an actual yeah exactly mira serena yeah mira serena somebody who like wow that she played dorene d'mucci yeah yeah

half that's in her research we did a lot of these but um

my favorites, Melanie Griffith revealed in a 2017 interview that she

repeatedly made passes at Alec Baldwin and he said no thanks.

And it hurt her feelings.

But I think he thought she was a little hot mess express.

And he was also like, I know Don's just waiting in the wings to remarry you.

Yeah, no question.

There's a Bob's Burgers episode about this and diehard.

That's apparently a famous Bob Burgers episode.

My kids used to love that.

Okay.

You mentioned the Mike Nichols thing.

And then

the lobby of Seven World Trade Center in this, too.

So it's been this multiple times.

Can I read you an excerpt from the New York Times, 1989, written by Maureen Dowd?

Oh, boy.

George Bush ended his first week as president by having some friends over to the family quarters of the White House on Friday night for beef pie, whatever that is, and a screening of the movie Working Girl.

He warned his guests, a mix of prominent Democrats and Republicans, that he had heard that the film about a Wall Street Cinderella had some, quote, dirty parts, so they had better watch out.

Meat pie.

beef pie with george hw bush his first speak as president he said let's watch working girl i've like hearing

working girl hearing george h w bush say the words dirty parts out loud is not also beef pie like i would be really really unhappy to have you either

wow uh apex mountain i'm gonna say yes for melany griffith i agree it really goes it's carly simon it goes down very downhill very quickly quickly from here.

And like, I didn't really remember because she's still building money.

The 90s were

now and then

for

90s are bad for her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I really like Pacific Heights.

I mean, me too, but you know.

Harrison Ford, no.

No.

I think there's a Sigourney Weaver case.

She's nominated in two categories at the same time.

It's two years after Aliens.

It just feels like she never had more juice than she did in 1988.

It's a big thing.

She's about to be Ghostbusters 2.

She's probably the most bankable actress.

Don't you think that aliens might be?

Yeah, I would say that's right.

Yeah, right before.

It has to be like it's somewhere in there.

Somewhere from aliens, it's near.

It's near.

It's in the range.

Female Struggling in the Workplace movies?

No, those are evergreen.

Yeah.

We're just all doing our best every day, Bill.

This isn't the best one.

It's one of my favorites.

I mean, like, it broadcasts news,

yeah, and they're all in the same you know what?

The answer is Devil Wars product because that's the best movie.

Can you believe they're making a sequel?

I'm beside myself with joy.

Oh, I thought you were gonna say beside myself.

No, no, no, no, no, no, I don't care.

It's like, fine.

All the nerds have gotten us no offense, have gotten all of their movies forever.

Like, give me all of it.

You know, do you want like nine Devil Wars products?

I would watch a TV show.

I would watch a novel.

I would watch

important novels.

I've read the original, but are they getting touchy?

Yeah.

Are they getting blunt?

Yeah.

I don't know about Blunt, but I think so.

Okay.

Yeah.

Amina Hathaway looks incredible these days.

She does.

She's a great father.

She's got a brand new face.

Yeah.

Looks great.

Great job by her.

My daughter.

They're just new eyebrows.

It's the whole, well, yeah.

My kids who don't consume my content at all.

Yeah.

And actively disparage me at all times.

Okay.

My daughter does like The Rewatchables and listens to it, and she thinks the Devil Wears Prado one is one of the best podcasts I've ever recorded.

Zoe, thank you so much.

I do think Amanda was on that podcast.

It was me, Juliette, and Bill.

It was one of the first rewatchables where we were like, this is probably where the show is.

I was freaking out a little.

I do think it was my professional peak, but like, and this is pretty close, you know, in terms of things I've worked hard for my whole life.

We did that.

It was in the first year.

I'm looking up.

Yeah, it was in your, it was in the office on the couches.

Yeah, we did that for, I'm going to say within the first.

I hope it's okay for me to say that Amanda said.

oh no, we did that later this is more important than this is more important than giving birth to your children this podcast episode

Yeah, just as an experience.

Yeah, you know Mike Nichols Apex Mountain.

No, no

Graduate.

Yeah, I think so.

He wins the Oscar.

I mean he made the graduate.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's pretty good.

It's like when finding movies of

the 60s Carly Simon, I'm going to say no.

You don't think so?

I don't know.

She was.

You're so vain is the whole thing.

She was killing it in the 70s.

You're so vain.

Was like probably one of the biggest single songs of the 70s from a female artist, right?

And also, like, led to 50 years of who is she talking about in the snow.

Fair right dialogue.

Yeah.

The Staten Island Ferry.

I had that.

That was my.

It is.

It is totally the Apex Mountain for Staten Island.

100%.

Never got better for the ferry.

All right.

My son is really into transportation.

So I was like, how will I show him Staten Island Ferry?

Just pulled up, Let the River Run, watched it, wrapped.

Colin Jost and and Pete Davidson bought it apparently yeah but they don't know what to do with it so that's not apex man

bony asses

um

just being being used repeatedly as a disparaging term sure memorable um and sleazoid yeah

all right that's probably good 80s hair

80s hair in a movie it's probably in like a non-joint because i think there's music videos i think that do it better yeah like white snake music videos and like mad max stuff like that but in terms of like a

a less extreme version i I think you might have something there.

You know, like this is just supposed to look normal.

In a music video, you're going for something extreme.

I just think about it more.

I feel like there's some 80, 85 range high school movies that are probably 86 range.

But it kind of has become the shorthand for it.

Like

maybe Apex Mountain for shoulder pads.

Also, QZ eye makeup.

Yeah, yeah.

You can't overstate how much these people look like aliens.

Like

every 15 minutes, Liz and I were like, man, the hair.

But the clothes are back.

Yeah.

And like Working Girl is the reference and all the copy of like, you know, get your inner, you know, whatever on with this, the suit.

Unleash your inner category.

Can you give a flex category?

I was going to do the vacuuming naked.

I kind of, I'll do a like a pseudo hot take.

I think Jack, is it Jack Trainer?

Yeah.

I think he's a little creepy in the beginning of this film.

And I know that everyone's in on it.

And I like Harrison Ford.

I like the character eventually.

I feel like they were still figuring it out.

The first scene, it's like

cheating on his girlfriend.

I guess he wanted to get out, but like the back-to-back double shot of tequila, yeah, doesn't say his name, doesn't say his name, takes her home, takes the dress off, and then the next day is like dinner in a movie.

I'm like, this guy's coming on a little hot.

You forgot about he did buy her a briefcase, though.

Also, weird.

Yeah, super weird.

A gift the next morning is like huge red.

As always, the timelines are an issue here because they say I love you within four days.

Yeah, I love you.

This entire movie

was the span of like four

days.

I had that in picket knits that bill mom is covering that i love you so fast out of for sure but like i sometimes you know he is like amanda and zach knew right away yeah that's true he is a pretty sleazy he's supposed to be a sleazy wall street guy but he starts as sleazy and then by the halfway into the movie he's like dopey i think that like i think it's called it's called character shaving you know i really think that if she had kept her dress on i can defend almost all of it.

I'm with Bill's mom on this.

Not saying your name is weird.

Are you Jack?

No, I I don't know who Jack is.

He like whispers the double shot to the bartender.

Yeah, that part is a little weird.

Oh, not great.

Yeah.

Then again, he didn't know about the milligrams.

It wasn't his fault.

Yeah, that is.

He did whisper double shot.

Yeah.

This man was a menace.

Sex pest, Jack Trainer.

Cruise or Hanks?

Okay.

It's Hanks.

It is Hanks.

It has to be Hanks.

Yeah.

The height thing that you mentioned earlier, but

Cruz is just too powerful in either.

He's ahead at this point, Craig.

Hanks.

Hanks is ahead.

By like three or four.

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Marty.

Marty.

Yeah.

Really?

I had Spielberg.

Yeah.

I mean, we did it with Wolf of Wall Street.

Different movies.

It's a very different movie.

It's way more of the last shot of the film.

Yeah.

I would watch Marty's.

It would be real.

It would be wonderful.

What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played?

Probably Spacey.

Oh, I was going to say Oliver Platt.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Good call.

This is his scent of a woman

vibe.

Picking knits that we haven't done yet.

Okay.

Tess wears all white to the wedding.

That's just rude.

You know.

Also,

even I know that.

I should try to blend and man.

Yeah.

You know?

I mean, how does she know what the dress code is also?

Because she's wearing like sort of a business suit.

Well,

it's more like a daytime tiki wedding.

A mother of the bride type.

She's wearing something that Jack conceivably thinks they could just be going to a lunch for and they're going to

be the wedding of like he's he's wearing black tie.

It's he's not wearing a tuxedo, but I like the tie is a very dark color, which would suggest that even though he thought he was going to a three o'clock lunch, he was also wearing black tie, which is confusing.

I have, why didn't anyone wonder why Tess was in her boss's office so much?

Yes.

As number one.

Yes.

I can buy the two days in.

It's like, what's going on with Tess?

Here's what I can buy.

I can buy the boss is not like paying enough attention to notice, and I can buy the secretary's covering for her.

But why is the door always closed?

Right.

She's watering the plants.

No, it's, it's, yeah.

People are talking by Wednesday.

Um, what kind of broken leg did Sigourney have where she's good in three weeks?

She's bed, goes from bedridden to just like

hobbling around.

I don't know.

You're the sports expert.

It's one or the other.

It's like if you're bedridden for three weeks, you're coming out of there and you have like one of those like huge brace like a walking thing yeah did they have those brace things yet in the 80s again are our medical our scientists the cheapest was it were we just killing people when they broke their legs at that point

really giant plaster but i like i don't remember you know when like kids breaking their arms or legs i don't remember like the flexi casts no Yeah.

It went from a broken leg to a torn MCL.

Yeah, yeah.

She just had the key at the end, which was like, when Jack shows up to her apartment when Mellie Griffith is hiding in the closet and he's like trying not to get like drawn into her and he's just like, oh, your cast and like knocks on it.

And he's like, whoa, look at that.

He's so good.

Sure is broken.

Yeah.

I think Catherine would just be suing everybody right away at the end of this movie.

We don't know if she gets fired even.

Well, Oren Trust says that he's going to make sure she gets fired, which once again, but why am I getting fired?

My secretary pretended to sue me for four months.

What did I do wrong?

Well, Well, maybe in the 80s he could get her fired, but I do think she's a fire.

My legal state was taking credit for my assistant.

I mean, she's going to get her bony ass out of his sight, but I don't know that you asked.

Like, my impression of mergers and acquisitions in the 80s is not that you could just transfer down from Boston and immediately go on vacation.

Yeah.

So, and listen, I believe in vacation and work-life balance and all that, but like she's just very absent.

So, I don't know.

How long was Tess working for her before she went on vacation?

Like, like two days?

Yeah.

Yeah,

enough to get the dim sum party.

Yeah.

I feel like it might have been a couple weeks.

But yeah.

Oh, okay.

So maybe 10 days.

Yeah.

She might have been like a couple weeks on the job and she's like, I already had the ski vacation planned.

I guess.

But do you not think it's weird that she was expecting,

Catherine was expecting to be proposed to on this trip?

Yes.

Her boyfriend bails.

Yes.

And she just still goes and is skiing alone.

No, that's that's that's a that's it it feels like it's gonna be the first of three or four marriages for her.

I also feel like she had sex with her doctor.

Yeah, absolutely.

But like, why would you reschedule the trip with your fiancé to Germany?

You wouldn't, you go on it.

Yeah.

I guess it makes it, he makes it seem like now Amanda's on defense.

Yeah, no, it's true.

Listen, Amanda's scrambling down.

She's like, wait, guys.

But like, she knew so many people there.

Like, it's not like she was going to go and be alone.

She knew like the guy who ran the hotel.

And then her hotel room was just like the biggest party room.

It just feels like if Amanda was like, I think Zach and I are going to get engaged in Germany.

And then Zach's like, I can't go.

I have work.

I don't think she's getting on the plane and spending the money for that vacation.

I had the money, mate.

I think Catherine Barrier had so much money that it was.

I had my biggest nitpick, we mentioned earlier.

And I don't think we hit it hard enough.

I don't understand the

Alec Baldwin having sex with Dominic DiNucci, whatever her name was.

Doreen.

I don't think he ever checked on Doreen's thing.

I just don't understand the scene.

You don't think he would cheat on Texas?

No class?

Life was different in the 80s.

I'm not here to judge.

Things happen.

Maybe

adultery was a little more common.

I don't understand.

You don't think a guy reading Motor Trend who gets his girlfriend's trashy lingerie on her birthday?

Yeah.

Is three days later?

It's like he doesn't think she's coming home.

He's sitting in his bed.

Yeah, she has class.

She has class.

She walks in.

It's just, and then he thinks it's going going to be fine three days later.

And he's like, not only that, but Jersey

thinks it's going to be fine.

I just have some issues.

I just tell, like, if that was my wife walking in

10 years later,

that's it.

Like, she's moving out.

It's not even a question of.

The issue is at the party when he is.

you know, it's like, are we still

something here?

Yeah.

And then he proposes in front of everyone, which like just, you know, don't 40 days after the adults.

I really, that's insane.

And then she doesn't just lie, just lie, you know.

I mean, that doesn't make for a good movie.

I liked Maybe.

I think Maybe is fair enough.

It's a good movie.

And then he's mad.

He's like, You embarrassed me, Becky.

It's like, yeah, motherfucker.

You were just getting rid of our bed by the stuff.

I genuinely believe that those are the gender politics of that like culture and that time.

You're right.

What did my whole friend group know that he cheated on her?

And they're all like, say yes.

Just what do you want to weigh bigger than me?

But they're like, no, I don't, I disagree.

I mean, even when Joan.

Denise is there?

Joan Kizar brings her stuff to the office and she's like,

yeah, this isn't like you.

I feel like she's just the agent.

I think it's a cultural thing.

It's just sort of like,

guys, guys,

guys will be guys.

Boys being boys.

Baldwin's will be Baldwin.

The sneaky best scene in the movie is in that moment in the bar when they meet, when Melanie Griffith and Baldwin kind of meet for the first time and they're just sitting at the corner of the bar.

He's slamming scotch and he's like, I got the boat loan.

And she's like, oh my God, congrats.

And then he brings up the boat again at the wedding.

Yeah, Dory is working at the football.

Yeah, he's got a boat loan.

Yeah,

what does he do?

Like, Suez said, like, boat tours?

It's like, what is he's booked for three weeks?

It's like the arbitrage of boats.

Yeah.

I'll never understand it.

Honestly, they should have made him like high school hockey coach or something.

He should have been in high school.

Is hockey big on Saturday?

I don't think he should be anywhere near high school kids.

Oh, Nick.

Baseball, whatever.

I think he should be like a used car salesman.

That's Nick's energy.

Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable.

This is untouchable.

Untouchable.

I don't know how you'd get it.

Even though I guess they made it a TV show.

Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Treyo, Doris Burke, Sam Jackson, Nell, Byron Mayo, Barney Cousins, Tony Romo, Harling Mays, Chris Collins, or Daniel Plainview, Long Legs, or Wolfred Brimley in the firm?

I was thinking, I'm not going to do Chris's Wolfred Brimley, but a heartbreak.

It would be funny if like bringing the photos to Catherine.

It's like, Catherine,

here's your fiancé,

oral and whatnot.

And he's just doing the whole

showing the photos i would love it yeah

just one oscar who gets it

well carly seven did get one so i really don't

putting enough respect on joan cusack and supporting

okay six thousand dollars and it's not even leather

I do like the Madonna thing where she's like, that's really singing.

Yeah.

Doesn't make me Madonna.

Like, I think this is what a supporting actress Oscar should be.

Yeah.

it's just like she's not the type of person that normally wins a nomination not necessarily true i just think that like you know your mirror servinos and your mrsa tomays you know like fair it's true i can see that in the movie enough though i don't know i i thought if you're gonna take

some of the spots that got taken like susan saran and bull durham like have like that is true that she's she's very good in that um

what do you say for this melany griffith okay i'm open to it but i still think going close should have won that year yeah um carly simon's fine i it's a good one rom-com gospel i'm here for yeah probably unanswerable questions

i have three do you guys have any i have one yeah go ahead

what do the lyrics of let the river run mean

the new jersey

well i mean i understand what that means but let me read it

we talked about

shaking

it's there for the taking let the river run we're coming to the edge running out of water right

Your eyes are the color of blue that you've only never seen in the eyes of your lover or whatever.

Okay, the sky is the color of blue.

Okay, so they're like, they're going somewhere.

They're building a city.

I think it ties back into your whole like immigrant.

Immigrant.

I mean, I think that's right.

But I'm just saying, it's not like the most evocative poetry that I have ever read.

Is it a New York River or just a...

just a river?

The symbolic river

and energy.

It's a energetic river.

It's the Hudson River.

So the answer.

Yeah.

I have an answer.

Like the Hudson River.

There's just an incredible amount of cocaine going on in the 80s.

And at some point at five in the morning, these lyrics made a ton of sense and they just kind of ran with it.

Trembling, shaking, oh, my heart is aching is an accurate representation of

that.

5.30 in the morning.

Listen, what do you have, Joanna?

Okay, it's not what did Jack ever see in Catherine Parker because it's a gourney weaver, but how did that ever progress beyond just like

we have sex a couple times into corporate corporate arrangement well yeah I think it's sort of like social business climate it just reflects poorly on him yeah underlines Craig's point that maybe Jack Traynor is not he's the best guy we've ever met

too until he's not you know

it's like if Sean was single and he just started dating like the CEO's daughter of Letterboxd and it's like I don't trust Sean's intentions what's he up to

marriage marriage is yeah business contract by the way I was gonna make a big deal about starting a letterbox yeah I'm like the I because I refuse to do it.

Yeah.

And start it.

And then all the movies would be completely fucking weird.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like, like Cinemax movies from the 90s and just every choice would be weird.

And people are like, what's going on with that guy?

No movie would be good.

That's a big idea.

That's a good idea.

Why is this a what if?

Why aren't you doing this already?

I did start a letterbox profile and then I don't use it because it's just like way too much homework.

But my, it's not a picture of me, obviously, because like, what are we doing?

It is a picture of me.

Is Zach getting you coffee?

No, it's Melanie Griffith in the red red glasses from Working Girl.

This is my eye house.

I love them.

Yeah, thank you.

Yeah.

All right.

Here are my three announcements.

I also have a letterbox I don't use.

It's just like, I don't know, log.

Listen, you know, I got a life.

One of these is going to make you both bad.

Okay.

Dim some dumplings at an office party.

Mm-hmm.

No.

I mean, it's the steam

does not work.

I care.

You just can't.

They're not passed.

You need like a table.

Yeah.

You need to dip them.

Now I have sauce.

I'm dripping sauce in my shirt.

I have bad breath.

I'm getting

stuck in my teeth.

You know, the spoon and the dumplings with the sauce and then you're just flat.

No.

And not a lot of people like dumplings.

What's your number?

What's your number one top-tier party food?

Yeah.

Look, there's a lot of derve.

That's what I'm saying.

Dim sum dumpling.

You want past hors d'oeuvres to be hit cheese.

You want some like salmon and crumb fresh on some puff pastry.

Is that what you're looking for?

Best one I ever had was coconut shrimp, shrimp at my friend Tim and Jen's.

Coconut shrimp's good.

Not everyone needs shrimp.

I mean, it's hard.

You're never really in the bank.

Pigs in the blanket is always good.

We had that about

Swedish meatballs of the wedding plate.

In and out burger at a Vanny Fair Oscar party.

You have to hold the burger.

Yeah.

That's also so big.

A slider is better.

Yeah.

I went to a wedding recently with little mini lapster rolls like an inch big on pretzel rolls.

I think you can do dumplings, just not hot, piping, freshly steamed ones.

Yeah.

That are dripping.

Craig, what are your thoughts?

That's fair.

I think you could do a pot sticker.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

Yeah.

What's your favorite party order?

Pigs in a blanket.

I'm defeated.

It's true.

It's true.

All guys, you're getting 50% of the room immediately.

Yeah.

Plus maybe 25% of the rest of the room.

So you're batting 75%.

Pigs in a blanket are good for people who are never going to eat a hot dog, but they kind of miss eating a hot dog.

And they're like, oh, I can have a pig in a blanket.

There's some

split up buffalo chicken finger stuff you could do with like the toothpicks.

Yeah.

Where it's like you could dip it, not dip it.

Maybe there's some blue cheese.

The, you know, the Chick-fil-A party platter is the Amanda Dobbins signature.

Yeah.

You are that you are there.

You can come next year.

Everyone's invited.

Holiday party.

Honestly, I was in awe.

Thank you.

Yeah.

I was in awe.

It was one of the smartest party things I've ever seen.

Listen, and it's because when growing up in Atlanta, you go to a boring holiday party, Chick-fil-A.

Super easy to eat.

They kept coming out.

People are getting a little drunker and a little drunker.

And then all of a sudden you just just see like four guys.

It checked all the boxes.

It's undefeated.

There's probably none left at the end of the night.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

My second unanswerable question.

Does Harrison Ford ever actually have sex in movies?

Just presumed innocent.

I couldn't think of

even another movie where he had

sex.

He doesn't, though.

It's like a lot of kissing, but not.

No, doesn't he have sex with

it?

Like, what are we defining?

What about is he actually have sex in a movie?

You You know, we're sort of frantic.

Not to Mallory, this action.

Witness, it's a lot of like longing and lusting.

So are you talking about like, is he disrobed in the bed?

I think it was a very intentional choice from the moment he was Han Solo on to be like, I'm not, there's a line.

Like, I'm not going to be in fatal traction fucking going close against the kitchen.

So, there's a line on my bare butt.

Free kitchen.

Presumed innocent.

That's it.

That was the only time he said.

Yeah, that's the only time where he really gets it on with somebody.

Other than that, not really.

So you're just talking about like sex scenes.

Yeah.

Like Michael Douglas.

Well, sure, but not only have sex scenes, but he'll like piss.

Michael Douglas made his career off.

You know?

Yeah.

Can you, the first Michael Douglas movie I ever saw was American President, and then I went backwards.

Can you imagine?

Oh, no.

I'm still.

Like, Harrison Poard's never going to be the cop in basic instinct.

I guess that's my point.

All right.

I think it was an intentional choice.

All right.

This is probably the one that makes you mad.

Okay.

Probably unanswerable questions is the category.

Yeah.

Are we sure Tess isn't the villain of this movie?

She quit.

She feels

her boss's boyfriend and job.

Okay.

Rebuttal.

And

the boyfriend was going to leave her anyway.

The boyfriend was going to leave.

Just because her feelings were hurt?

No, she was stealing her idea and passing it off.

She was her idea.

Yeah, she worked for her.

But she's lying to her about it.

She's like, nice idea.

Yeah.

Okay.

She's talking it out.

Okay, Bill.

This is good information.

I'm talking it out.

I'm talking it out.

I'm trying to defend Sigourney Weber.

Keep your good ideas close to you.

The assistant works for her.

The assistant is assisting her.

Yeah.

Has an idea.

And she says, you know what?

I'm going to tuck that one away, not tell anyone.

Goes skiing, breaks her leg.

And then this person takes her entire life.

Right.

Hard disagree.

I understand that like if you're the boss.

That's why it's unanswerable.

If you're the boss.

And you're like, I like your idea.

I will be leading this deal.

That's fine because you're the boss.

You're not going to say, hey, Tess, you lead this deal.

It's your idea.

She's the boss.

She can lead it, but she doesn't, you don't lie to her and say,

you know, the dictaphone where she's like hard copy from the home computer.

Do not

let Tess know, suggest

fair counter.

Yeah, and then you're patronizing to her.

And she's like, I really tried.

Yeah.

And if you had seen this, you simply would have asked me.

I mean,

obviously, I've been in charge of some stuff.

One of the best things you can do is somebody works for you and they have a good idea.

You then give them credit after the fact that they had the idea.

Yes, with that said,

she did steal her job and her man in this movie.

She did steal her job.

She got a different job.

Tess doesn't get the coroner office.

She stole the merger.

She led that to get an entry-level job.

Send me this to me back.

No mergers, no acquisitions, no ideas.

She has dim sum parties.

She has dim sum parties and weird perverts hitting on her.

All right.

In Bill's defense.

Yeah.

I agree.

Craig sees it.

I agree with Joanne and Amanda.

However, in Bill's defense,

Tess has been working for Catherine for like 48 hours.

And like, sure, maybe Catherine wasn't the nicest.

To just kind of immediately risk your entire career by kind of like taking her job is pretty bold as an assistant.

Yeah.

And that's

the point of the movie.

Seguini Weaver tells her, don't wait for your opportunities to come to you.

You have to go after and get them.

And she says to Joan Cusack, like, I'm supposed to follow these rules that I didn't make up so that I can't just never get what I want.

You rationalize that to to yourself however you want.

Yeah, karate kid, when they made the Cobra Kai, and they were like, We're flipping this.

Johnny Lawrence, maybe he was the victim, and maybe Daniel saw it.

So, you're waiting for the

Catherine property.

Catherine's life is that ruin from this assistant she had for 48 hours.

She's got a limb.

YouTube is still making original TV content.

Call the party.

The thing about Devil Wears Prada is that it does sort of understand your point, and that, like,

the Anne Hathaway character

over time.

Yeah, but like, and she has that moment in the car of like, you already did, you did it to Emily.

I was doing that.

We talked about this on the map.

Anne Hathaway ultimately is that villain of

the movie knows that and is written that way.

The working girl is not written for that.

I think if Tess treated her new assistant at all remotely shabbily,

then it's the Devil Wear's Proudest thing where she's just like

that last, the last shot, which is still, it's, she doesn't get Catherine's office.

You're on the record.

You support identity theft and man stealing.

That's what we're doing.

It's not identity theft.

She uses her own name, which is another thing.

And it's not a man's.

You can't steal a man's name.

Yeah, she stole her guy.

It wasn't hers.

No.

They were dating.

She didn't know that, though.

Yeah.

She was over it.

Yeah.

Devil Warris Prada.

She's a much worse person.

Way worse.

So annoying.

So entitled.

And poor Vince for monitorization.

No, I made you a grilled cheese.

that guy sucks hey

just put him on i put some extra

y'all yarlsberg just because she sucks doesn't mean he doesn't suck because he does he does yeah i put some extra yarlsberg in it and you light in a little mustard yeah uh what piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie uh the cigourney warhols oh that's a good one i want the dress like the dress that she wears yeah i'm not even inflation

yeah i think it would suit me um i googled inflation um i think it would be sixteen $16,000 now

because it's $6,000 in the movie.

The bunny?

What about the gorilla?

The bunny she brings to the audience.

For a minute, I thought we were talking about fatal attraction again.

And I was like, no.

The gorilla?

Oh, that's a good one.

Catherine's gorilla.

I think it's a good one.

The gorilla, like right there in the corner where Mr.

Sweezy used to be.

Right on the set fell over there.

Where he fell over.

He hated this movie.

No, Sweezy just hated your hot take.

He didn't need to move.

What about the two tall Harrison Ford Luell wedding glasses with the straws?

movie-used glasses.

Those are good.

Props.

Harrison Ford put his unity umbrellas and everything.

Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson.

You don't get anywhere in this world by waiting for what you want to come to.

You make it happen.

Yeah.

Even if you have to steal identity and somebody's man.

Yeah.

Check the milligrams for the learn.

Check the milligrams for volume.

Double feature choice.

Yeah.

What do you have for Working Girl?

I have a triple feature.

I think this Baby Boom and Broadcast News are like a very fun, you know.

I have Baby Boom and Broadcast News, but also Morning Glory.

Love Morning Glory.

Oh my gosh.

Rachel McAdams, Working Girl.

Right, Harrison Adams.

Yeah, I know.

It's incredible.

And Harrison Ford.

Harrison Ford.

Yeah.

And the sort of, yeah.

You could talk me into Working Girl with Pretty Woman back to back.

Good.

1988, 1990.

Just so you can get mad at Gary Marshall for what he's doing.

Double Cinderella.

And then you're watching Purdue Woman seeing all the things they took.

There's also Witness as just double hot Harrison Ford.

Well, I think that there's a Devil Wars Prada case as this.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Because this, that steals, but way, way more subtly from some stuff.

But just, it's 88.

I think if I were to 2006, two different eras.

If I were to pick from any of these great options, I think my number one would be Baby Boom because it's not as seen.

And if you could get people in the door for a Working Girl and say, stay tuned to watch Diane Keaton start a baby food empire,

And Sam Shepard.

You're doing

Sam Shepard and Baby Boom.

Does not meet Harrison Ford in Working Girl, but like it's getting up there.

He's just like in Vermont.

Country veterinarian, right?

Yeah.

Is he the all-time number one?

Every woman loves Sam Shepard.

Besides Harrison Ford, yes.

And they are like of a

type.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's powerful.

Sam, if Sam Shepard were still with us, he would be in a Taylor Sheridan show.

Yeah, he's an all-timer.

Yeah.

Who won won the movie?

Melanie Griffith.

Yeah.

I think it's Melanie Griffith.

Roger Ebert, our guy, wrote, This is Melanie Griffith's movie in the same way the graduate belonged to Dustin Hoffman.

She was not an obvious casting choice, but she's the right one.

I agree with that.

I agree.

All right.

Amanda, how do you feel?

This is a delight.

No, we got to get Craig back.

38 years ago, this movie came out, which means Craig was minus seven, minus six.

38 years, minus eight, minus eight.

What do you got, Craig?

This movie single-handedly saved Liz's relationship with the Rewatchables.

Yeah, we were in a rough road.

Deathwish did not go well.

It was a dark time after Deathwish.

This really pulled her out of the mud.

When this movie ended, she was like, best movie ever made.

I believe that's her exact quote.

Wow.

Better than Country Strong.

I think a little better.

A little better, although she loves Gwyneth.

But

this is a wonderful rom-com.

I like it because I feel like the rom-coms from back in the day are a little bit edgier.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's just a little bit of unpredictability in these, a little bit of edge in these.

And even the rom-coms that have succeeded in the last like 10 or so years, or like, you know, like anyone but you, those just have a safeness to them, like a glossiness to them.

And these have,

no one's really bland.

The characters are a little bit deeper.

You know, like Harrison Ford's character being like a little bit questionable at times.

I just like that the 80s and 90s kind of provide that in these rom-coms.

Agree.

You know, I have a theory on this, not to get all philosophical.

There wasn't a lot going on in the 80s.

You just kind of worked and then you went out and you watched television and listened to music and went to sporting events.

And what do you mean?

We didn't have, we had nothing.

What do we have now?

We had no

TV.

We had no internet anything.

People were around each other all the time.

You didn't have devices.

Being people.

You didn't have the internet.

Okay.

As

intensive.

Interacting with other people was basically everything you had to do.

You couldn't go down your phone.

You could sit at home and just read a book, or you could just actually go out where other people were.

Yeah.

So, well,

we all loved reading books.

But you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, I do.

Like, so movies were able to tap into that in a way that I think the last 10 years of movies with social media, I think people have really,

even you see it in a lot, especially the later movies, they're really good now at showing people texting on phones.

And they'll have somebody to the phone and you'll see the text and or they'll put the text on the screen and the texting.

And I just don't think it's as good as just people being together.

Oh, I agree.

Yeah.

And so anyone but you is a good example of that because that movie was

really successful.

And it was terrible.

And it was really bad.

It's really bad.

And guess what?

My daughter watched it like seven times and loved it.

And I'm like, I just, if that movie's winning over a movie like Working Girl, then that kind of tells us where we are.

When do you think the last great rom-com was?

So I am not really even on board as late as 2005, six.

I agree.

So

stupid love doesn't do it.

No.

No.

I'm sorry.

And I have to tell you, like, I think forgetting Sarah Marshall is really important.

And I appreciate it.

Yeah.

Yeah, but it's about, and it's about men.

So Notting Hill is 99.

Yeah.

Bridget Jones' Diary is 2001.

Yeah.

And you've got males.

98.

Yeah.

I want to say.

Yeah.

So if my wife was here, she would throw out a lot like Love in 2004.

Okay.

Yeah.

I got to ask her

PB.

I would say.

Is that the one where they sing Chicago to each other in the car ride?

ride like ooh yeah yeah yeah that's powerful that movie's elite um i think it's pre-2005 pre-2005 yeah because i like i i have re-watched um how to lose a guy in 10 days recently you know and sorry to the next or whatever but um

it has not aged as well

as as you would like

yeah not for my daughter she loves it yeah no i know and that one so that one in 27 dresses are i think that like 27 dresses for a slightly later generation.

I just think they're not.

They're not.

I agree.

I agree with you.

Delivering the way that, like, the 90s and the 80s.

I think,

I think we kind of, the genre,

I don't want to say it died.

It just shifted into this 2010s, this

news movie, Drinking Buddies.

Yes.

It was on

cable, but it was like those type of movies where that's a mumble core.

Yeah, like that mumble core era combined with like the brain dead anyone but you type movies.

And we never we don't get the like Mike Nichols, Nora nora efron like this is smart right and a rom-com at the same time you know what it is also it is a romantic comedy but there is also the professional plot line as well and it's as much about like is tess gonna get yeah getting the man

and the last shot and the last scene is not about harrison ford it's about her and her dream and she calls joan qsack she doesn't call harrison for that well you also you have a this is a rom-com that has three two of the best actors of the 80s right with melany griffith and a breakout

and then one of the most famous directors of right this whole generation right and now we they used to not have romantic comedies now

i

i don't know i i just feel like we've done so many versions of the same idea that might be part of it too

where you would still feel like people falling in love would be timeless but but you know every time you watch them they're so self-aware to the movies that have already happened before them they almost are afraid to be original but you can do iterations like i i'm a big defender of you've got mail i love that movie and that's a, that's a remake.

That had, that's a story that had already been made like three other times before it was made for the AOL era.

You know what I mean?

So but that movie has two massive stars in it.

Well, yeah, but you can remake story premises again and again and again as long as you do it intelligently and have a good cast.

I mean, the movie with Sudeikis and Alice and Brie is good.

when they're friends for a long time and then just forget that one.

Yeah, that one is that was early 2010s.

I thought that was that one.

But But I feel like by the time Amy and Paul Rudd made their rom-com making fun of all the rom-coms, that was when we were kind of like all good with the genre.

Well, the other thing is that there aren't, it's the movie star thing, right?

Because you just identified that it's whether it's Julio Roberts, Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan, like Sandra Bowen, those are people who are already movie stars in, and they're like early 30s,

or their late 20s.

And we don't have movie stars like that anymore in the same way because of

superheroes or whatever.

I keep hearing like, oh, the rom-com is back when Set It Up.

Which are I like that movie.

The Glen Powell movie is Glenn Powell.

Yeah.

It's good.

Nobody Wants This was a TV show, but a lot of people.

That's a good example.

That set hit and was successful.

Yeah, but it was like a Netflix.

It was a Netflix movie and a Netflix movie doesn't feel as big as, do you know what I mean?

And Glenn Powell was not.

a star in the way that that was like early 2018.

They become like lovable streaming hits.

Yeah, exactly.

Right.

They're not like or TV shows.

We're talking about Working Girl and Die Hard in the same conversation and you wouldn't put a rom-com in the same conversation as a big epic event movie.

The last duo we had was Gosling and Emma Stone.

I will say crazy stupid love.

With the part of Crazy Stupid Love that is just them, that's a good rom-com.

Then there's a lot of other movie.

You know, it's so different than sports because in sports, sports is constantly new and the athletes can change.

Right.

And rom-coms are competing.

It's the ghosts of the iconic rom-coms that are just better.

Yes.

Yeah.

and I don't know, you go back.

I just think that, like, in the 90s, where there's a ton of great rom-coms, you could argue, oh, well, they're competing with the screwball comedies in the 1940s, which were, you know, you can't beat Catherine Hepburn, you can't beat it, but they are, they are equally great.

So, I feel like you can keep doing it.

We just don't value it anymore.

We just consider that small ball sort of thing.

I think Craig's point about that they used to be edgier is an important point.

Yeah, yeah.

Because even like About Last Night, which I don't think gets enough credit for 80s

kind of paving the way for when Harry Metzali and some of these other ones.

That's a pretty like

star-rated movie there, right?

Like Rob Lowe kind of goes nuts at one point.

Yeah, I just think that movie would be completely different.

They remade it with Kevin Hart and Michael Ely.

It's just like, all right.

Yeah.

Right.

But I do think it's a star power thing.

Yeah.

We never really replenished.

We had this.

You know, that every time like Sandra Bullock and Meg Ryan, and then it was like, next generation, here's Rhys Witherspoon.

and then Kate Hudson's gonna make a bunch and we always had people to put in those and it was always a Matthew McConney and now it's basically like Glenn Powell well I think it felt like a necessary piece of the star playbook because you had to do your rom-com and I don't think that's like Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Stone would be wonderful in them if they could write if you know if someone made it like the script the money and the

the release

but they don't want to do it that's not their strategy Emma Stone is instead like winning multiple Oscars for for art house movies but people used to do both, which is cool.

Yeah.

I would have rather she did that than that Nathan Fielder show.

I would have rather she made Picture Perfect.

We said no Picture Perfect.

That's another one where somebody's pretending.

Yeah.

It's oh, I need a date for a wedding.

So here's my fiancé, this guy I just hired.

It's such a great era.

Yeah, I think part of it is

the welcome premises were so crazy that I almost you they're too self-aware they don't stand up to like any uh like ethics treatment, right?

So maybe we're just

too scared to be problematic, yeah, exactly.

Okay, we should say

in a week, there is a rom-com coming out starring Dakota Johnson with Celine Song as directly.

And we saw it this year, we saw it, and I would not call it a romantic comedy.

We call it a romantic comedy, they're trying to market it, they're mismarketing it.

Yeah,

it's in comedy, but I wish it was.

Yes, I like that's the part of it that I really liked.

Yes, but yeah.

Well, one of the most fun things about having a daughter was watching her hit all the rom-com tears with my wife, or sometimes by herself.

But

I just think there's a timelessness to them, and it doesn't matter.

Like, my daughter, I'm positive, my daughter would like Working Girl.

Oh, yeah.

When she got past that hair, she would definitely like it.

And it's also the way for her to learn about the 80s and the hair, you know, it is because

the format is recognizable.

So then it's just kind of like, yeah, yeah.

It's like that's that's how I first learned about Wimbledon was the 2004 film Wimbledon starring Kirsten Dunst and Paul Benny and James McAvoy.

Yeah.

And now here we are.

Amanda, a true pleasure.

Joanna, a true pleasure.

An honor.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for letting me witness this incredible moment in your career.

It feels so great to be back.

Producer Craig, always a pleasure.

Who else do we have to thank?

Marcelino.

Thank you to him.

I guess it's New York month because we've done two New York movies in a row.

I might have to do two more.

We only need two more for New York month.

Sounds great.

These were two good months, though.

Thank you, both.

Thank you.

Thank you, bro.

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