436 - Andrew Schulz

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Speaker 5 Get ready for Malice, a twisted new drama starring Jack Whitehall, David DeCovny, and Carice Van Houten.

Speaker 14 Jack Whitehall plays Adam, a charming manny, infiltrates the wealthy Tanner family with a hidden motive to destroy them.

Speaker 22 This edge-of-your-seat revenge thriller unravels a deliciously dark mystery in a world full of wealth, secrets, and betrayal.

Speaker 28 Malice will constantly keep you on your toes.

Speaker 31 Why is Adam after the Tanner family?

Speaker 33 What lengths will he go to?

Speaker 34 One thing's for sure, the past never stays buried.

Speaker 37 So keep your enemies close.

Speaker 41 Watch Malice, all episodes now streaming exclusively on Prime Video.

Speaker 44 Andrew Schultz is with us. Your new special out on Netflix right now.
Yes, sir. Title, Life.
Life. Life.
You did a huge tour, arena tour all over the world. A lot of Middle Eastern countries.
A lot.

Speaker 44 You're loved there.

Speaker 44 You You filled

Speaker 44 in

Speaker 44 stadiums

Speaker 44 in the wildest. You'll be like in a soccer stadium in like Bahrain.
You're like Qatar. It's wild.
Well, if you do a decade of like women are annoying jokes, you really can gratiate yourself.

Speaker 44 A decade of pitch get in the kitchen. People start to go, we like this guy.
What is different?

Speaker 44 Is is there anything different about doing comedy over there or is it honestly they're all educated in america it's like more similar to doing like you've done europe right yeah and you know how like there's they're like aware of but they also have their own tv shows so like they they're also not aware yeah whereas in the middle east like they get all of our shit because they're not making their own tv shows really right so they're way more aware of you know just uh random references and like they all get educated here and not at fucking nyu do you get a talk is there any because i've never done anything over there i told them don't tell me

Speaker 44 so they come to you like live nation comes to you and then they'll come to the your manager and shit and they'll they'll say hey and i just say just don't tell me don't say xyz just don't tell me gotcha okay but i just don't want to know because that was my question is there something where they go don't hey yeah i mean don't talk about mo like i think that's like the the basic rule What's that?

Speaker 44 Muhammad. Like you can't.
Oh, right. Yeah, yeah.
But like, I even had some like, I thought you met Mo Amr. I'm like, like he's that BMA.
They threaten you. They're like do not speak about him.

Speaker 44 I'm like that's interesting.

Speaker 44 That makes sense. But besides that, like I had jokes about like Muslims and shit like that.
They were cool with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 44 They've all, they all went to school at like central Tennessee State. Like they know America.
That's true. Yeah, they know America, America.
Right, okay.

Speaker 44 So they're not at all like worried about it. Yeah, interesting.
I was in Abu Dhabi, though, so it's maybe a little different than if you're going to, you know, Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 44 I want to do, I want to just do, because I'm not going to be able to sell the tickets tickets you sell but I want to do Pakistan like put me in real kind of small you got to get that radical

Speaker 44 I want radical places where I can go where it's like real deal nightmare did you did you cover the story of the chick from Brooklyn who was in Pakistan.

Speaker 44 She was the story in Pakistan for you know it's amazing and get some of her up because that's to me is what the Costco family should have been

Speaker 44 like that woman

Speaker 44 You know the Costco, obviously the cookie people, double chunk chocolate cookie. Oh, the boom or whatever.
The Fumos. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
AJ and Big Justice and the whole gang.

Speaker 44 To me, it's my Costco family was this woman who went to meet a dude in Pakistan. And they're all being nice to her.
They're buying a McDonald's. Like the Pakistani people kind of...

Speaker 44 absorbed this. They thought it was amazing.
They welcomed her. Yeah.
And she went over to meet a man. Yeah.
And then she wanted 50 grand. Yeah.
To fix Pakistan, though. She was like, give me 50 grand.

Speaker 44 I'm going to fix the roads, the railways. Yeah.
We're fixing Pakistan. That's a crazy quit.

Speaker 44 We're building airports. And she just met a dude online.
Yeah, that she catfished. And then so when she, he was down until she pulled up.
Yeah. Yeah.
He thought she was different. Yep.

Speaker 44 He thought she was a different thing. Yeah.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 44 This woman, yeah, I mean, she looks so cool. I love the way she looks.
She just has like a, get a video of her up because she's making demands

Speaker 44 of the Pakistani government where she's like, I saw her sitting over there.

Speaker 44 Yeah, there you go. American woman who arrived in Karachi.
Did they flew her home? I think they flew her to Dubai, and then something happened in Dubai. She might have been home.

Speaker 44 She could only tolerate that for so long before, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, here she is.

Speaker 44 An amazing woman

Speaker 38 that y'all are going give us money tomorrow or by the ending of this week.

Speaker 26 We need 50K.

Speaker 44 We need 50K.

Speaker 44 It's the most American thing to show up to another country and then ask for money to fix their country. There's nothing more American than showing up, going,

Speaker 44 I'd like to fix your country. What? That's so funny.
Like, why did we react like she was doing something so crazy? No, this is all we do. This is Iraq.
This is Iraq. This is South Korea.
This is

Speaker 44 everything. This is the most.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 44 We're just like, you need our shit. Yeah.
You just need what we got. And we just need 100 grand.
That's all we need. We need a little money to give you what you want.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And that's what we do. That's our game.
Can I ask you a question, Tim?

Speaker 44 Have you spoken on your show about your recent photo shoot?

Speaker 44 Have you talked about it yet? No. The one in California? Yeah, the California photo shoot.
Because I saw it proliferating the internet and I was incredibly impressed.

Speaker 44 You know, people don't think of me as a model, but

Speaker 44 the definitions are changing. And I wanted to go down and see the devastation of the California wildfires.

Speaker 44 And because, again, I sold my home here. I was lucky enough not to have a house burned down, but that doesn't matter.

Speaker 44 It doesn't really matter because like a casino, anything can happen to anyone at any time.

Speaker 44 I've paid taxes here.

Speaker 44 i've lived here i've participated in this culture yeah i wanted to kind of spend some time with the nightmarish reality of what fire can do so i went down there and the national guard has stops you in the palisades right and they stop you going into malibu and you got to have you got to take out your license and you got to have a good line of shed and so you had how'd you get in what was my producer sitting in the front row of the front seat of my car and and and he looks like a junkie because he's from california so they look like the the drug addicts.

Speaker 44 They have long hair and they have a stupid look to them and they're all glazed over. And I, and I, he actually said to me, he goes, just say you're dropping me off at a sober living.

Speaker 44 And I go, wow. So we stopped.
The National Guard guy stopped us and he goes, what are you doing? I said,

Speaker 44 we're taking this kid to a sober living. And they were like, good for you.
And I went, it is. Yeah, yeah.
It is, actually.

Speaker 44 And we drove there and I just started taking some photos

Speaker 44 in the wreckage, which i i think we can find pretty easily yeah they were nice i mean any specific homes like were they uh no they were

Speaker 44 no they were just things that i saw that caught my eye i don't think they'll ever rebuild it there i don't think uh we they will ever

Speaker 44 um

Speaker 44 i don't think they will ever like

Speaker 44 i mean people are saying that they'll rebuild it but Would you rebuild it? Would you build another $20 million house in an area where that could happen? Okay.

Speaker 44 This is so interesting that you even say this. I was talking to the all-in guys earlier.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 And I think it was Chamoth was saying this, like, this idea that there's like a home on like 0.4 acres that's worth $100 million. It's crazy.

Speaker 44 So there's just these crazy ideas that we need to completely rethink. Get rid of.
I agree with you.

Speaker 44 And they were, you know, speaking in economic terms that are like far beyond my understanding of shit. But just this idea that like...
It's far beyond their understanding.

Speaker 44 I'm kidding. I like them.
I like those criminals.

Speaker 44 But they said an interesting thing, and you probably know about this from your time doing mortgages or whatever, that

Speaker 44 pushing the American dream of purchasing a home. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And that the, I guess the U.S. government has inflated,

Speaker 44 I'm going to say inflated the market, but in an effort to push people and support that market, and essentially not letting that market fail, which it would suck if it would fail, obviously.

Speaker 44 They've inflated the prices of these homes and essentially priced out the first generation of people to buy homes. For sure.
Now they're much more expensive. They've done a lot of things.

Speaker 44 It's the main thing in our country is the main dream is that everyone owns a home. Yes.
So number one, we're one of the only countries with a 30-year fixed mortgage.

Speaker 44 Nobody takes a loan out and gets 30 years of stability at one rate.

Speaker 44 And the reason that we're able to do that is the government came up with these things called GSEs, government-sponsored entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Speaker 44 And they give what they call an implicit guarantee. So they back it no matter what.
They back it. And even though it's not explicit, it's like implicit.
Like you understand that it's going to be okay.

Speaker 44 It It creates a security necessary for the market. Exactly.
So it allows a bank to go out and lend a 30-year fixed mortgage at a favorable rate.

Speaker 44 They also depress interest rates so that people can get in the game. And then they create these asset bubbles where like houses are worth an absurd amount of money.

Speaker 44 And, you know, I mean, look at this, right? So this is a car. Yeah.

Speaker 44 You know, people just left. This is how quickly these things came on.
That's a Bentley burnt. Go to the next photo.
That's someone's house. You look slim.
Burnt. I look great in that.

Speaker 44 I really think you do. Yeah.

Speaker 44 I think that's a great photo of me. And you know what? It's worth whatever happened in the background.
I think so, too. And look, so take a look at all of this.
Here's my question. Here's my issue.

Speaker 44 You really start to realize once these houses are gone, it's kind of interesting. It's like LA when Hollywood is kind of died.
It's like, it's almost like this town is now like Cinderella.

Speaker 44 You know, it turned into the pumpkin. And she's like, so what? It's a pumpkin.
And you're like, no, bitch, it's supposed to be a carriage. We're supposed to believe it's a carriage.

Speaker 44 You look at that shoreline. I don't think anything on that's worth anything.
Isn't it funny?

Speaker 44 Straight up. You look at that and you go, what the fuck is Malibu? $70 million to live here? Somebody spent $70 million

Speaker 44 to live on that shoreline with that gray water and that overcast sky. It's like when crypto hits zero and you just go, oh yeah, that's how much it should be.
Right.

Speaker 44 And then the only reason Malibu was ever Malibu was because Hollywood was in LA.

Speaker 44 So you wanted to be two hours or an hour or an hour and a half, depending on where you were from the epicenter of Hollywood. Yeah.
And now you're like, well, if Hollywood's not centered in L.A.

Speaker 44 and it doesn't have this, then Malibu, it's still, Malibu might not be Malibu anymore.

Speaker 44 People might just go, fuck it.

Speaker 44 I'm going to get a beautiful home in Mexico. I'm going to get a beautiful home in the islands.

Speaker 44 I'm going to go somewhere else because the world now is smaller and people are more comfortable going other places. They don't need to be an hour and a half.
So what do you think happens with LA?

Speaker 44 Like, give me the next like five, 10 years.

Speaker 44 It becomes, it could become a vassal state of China, meaning like, and I, I'm kind of for that, where Chinese billionaires come in and just buy all the real estate to like Vancouver. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 That's what it is. Yeah.
Canada's the future of a lot of things. Where Canada, it's peaceful, it's calm.
Yeah. No one's getting rich.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 Um, it's, it's full socialism where people get mad at me for saying that, but I don't mean in like the economic sense.

Speaker 44 I understand that it's capitalist, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, but I mean like no wine bar.

Speaker 44 Come in and get pizza. Nobody cares.
No one's drinking. You go into the supermarket.
There's two types of peanut butter. It's a soulless corporate hell.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 And you walk around and it's just like, you know, that I was kidding around like they should have places just called warm. It's warm in here.
Like there's nothing unique.

Speaker 44 There's nothing interesting in most parts of Canada. It's just natural beauty.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 That's kind of what I worry about with LA because there is, you know, the only thing that made LA interesting at all was the fact that it was the home of myth. It was the home of pretend.

Speaker 44 It's a city with a college football team. Yeah.
That's what Hollywood says. Yeah.
And then if the football team leaves the city, it's over.

Speaker 44 So what do you think happens to Columbus, Ohio, if Ohio State leaves? That's right. And Les Wexner.
If Les Wexner and

Speaker 44 Ohio State leave, it's over. Give him immunity.
Shout out to Les. Give him immunity.
You think he talks?

Speaker 44 No. He's 90 years old.
No. What does he have to lose? He's 90 years old.
You know, here's what they have to lose. Why let him win at 90? Why open your fat yap at 90?

Speaker 44 So you could, do you die with some peace?

Speaker 44 Peace? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I don't think he wants peace.
No, what does he want? Peace is.

Speaker 44 I think he's gotten a piece.

Speaker 44 I think he's got more than one piece. That's probably it.
I think these guys,

Speaker 44 and it's fascinating, because if you look at the ruling class, you go, the vast majority of them have no idea what's going on. They just know that the shrimp is good.

Speaker 44 Who is the ruling class to you now um

Speaker 44 me you theo vaughn joe rogan no um uh like is it still the vanderbilts the rockefellers no no no it's just the you know the most richest most powerful you politically connected people in society like this guy owns a bunch of companies yeah he's a big political donor yeah he's got a lot of friends you know you would so yeah so are the ivy league nepo babies are they like are they masquerading as the ruling class they're all like in trouble they came to my party in Hampshire.

Speaker 44 They all want to be like comedians and writers. I mean, it's, they're in trouble.
So that's, that's the thing I was wondering. Like, I saw.
They all dropped dead when you walked in.

Speaker 44 I go, your families killed people. They go, that's Andrew Schultz.
I'm like, what happened here?

Speaker 44 So, so there's this, like, I saw this post, like, the oldest hotel in the world, like in Japan. It's like, yeah, started in the year 703 and it stayed in the same family for 52 generations.
Yes.

Speaker 44 Right. And you look at that and you're like, well, that's kind of impressive because you look at these American families and within three or four generations, all the wealth is completely gone.

Speaker 44 And you're right. They all want to be comedians and writers and all this shit.
Because they've been rich. So they're bored.
Yes. And they go, they want to be famous.

Speaker 44 And also, we got this thing here, which it's like, you know, follow your dreams and do whatever you want, which I think we need to push. Don't get me wrong.
But there's like... A little.
There's,

Speaker 44 yeah. But what we don't have any of here is.

Speaker 44 What is that thing where it's like, my dad was a cobbler and I'm a cobbler.

Speaker 44 What is that called?

Speaker 44 I agree with you, but you're right. And I don't know the term for it, but it's certainly a, it's, it's, number one, it's a respect for history.

Speaker 44 It's this idea that you and your family specialize in something and that you must carry on that tradition.

Speaker 44 And there's like societal utility in it, and you're not a loser for following in your family's footsteps. That's right.
You're actually doing something honorable and carrying on.

Speaker 44 That's why the succession was such a good show because the whole show is Logan looking at his firstborn son and going, you're a pussy. You'll never be able to do what I do.

Speaker 44 You'll be eaten alive out here.

Speaker 44 And a lot of these guys, the Les Waxers, now he has kids. I'm sure they're lovely people.

Speaker 44 But he's probably looking at them going, you guys are soft. You're never going to be able to put a Ukrainian woman in a crate.

Speaker 44 You're never going to be able to do it. Now, so what? So what?

Speaker 44 And it doesn't mean they're bad. They're not bad people, the kids, but I think Les Wexner looks at them and goes, you'll never be able to do what I had to do to get here.

Speaker 44 You're never going to have to watch. You're never going to be able to sit in a room while

Speaker 44 the mafia tortures some guy.

Speaker 44 to get him to do something like you guys don't have it. You grew up watching Degrassi and your sweet kids.
And I think there's part of that because. But do they want them to do it?

Speaker 44 That's the thing that no, probably not. They don't.
So there's all this like ego in it where we're like, you're a pussy. You can't do what I do, but I really don't want you to do what I do.

Speaker 44 I don't want you to have to do it. Just go and do something nice.
Make your mother happy. Yeah.
Because I believe less. And again, no shade.

Speaker 44 No shade to less. No shade at all.
No shade to Leswex. No shade.
I think he's one of the guys who, whatever he did, didn't do. There are people that I believe are

Speaker 44 operators. I don't think it's most of those people.
I think most of the people are like, we're rich. This is good.
I have a, I work in this thing. I work at this bank.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 My wife is cool that I disappear occasionally. Yeah.
And I come back. I think there are guys, though, that know how things work

Speaker 44 and can make things happen to a degree. You're talking about like real power.
Yeah, those guys who like to make it. It's paying that there's power.

Speaker 44 Yeah, there's probably 10% of the rich people that are kind of going, hey, let's, you know, make something happen. Let's, yeah, let's move industry in a way that's favorable for them.

Speaker 44 Yeah, I mean, there's probably a lot more

Speaker 44 bad money mixed in with good money than people think. I think people think

Speaker 44 they look at drugs and weapons trafficking and human trafficking and all these things, and they kind of in their head, they put it into one group.

Speaker 44 Yeah, as if that family is different than the Sacklers or something like that. Right.
Or if that money and Wall Street money ain't all fucking together. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And if all this money isn't together, like, all this money's hanging out together. Money's friends with money.

Speaker 44 Oh, so a cartel boss, you're saying, might be friends with, maybe not the boss of the cartel, but whoever's managing the money at UBS for the cartel. 1,000%.

Speaker 44 He's also managing the money for the MIT Endowment or something. Some of these guys now with the Epstein case, they all have to come out, these guys.

Speaker 44 It was just a guy in Europe that had to do it, a guy in the UK, and he goes,

Speaker 44 because he was managing all the Epstein's money. And it was for a credit suite.
Barclays, I believe, I believe. Get this right because I don't want to piss off.

Speaker 44 I want to get killed by the right people.

Speaker 44 But

Speaker 44 they were, and they were going, you had this business relationship with, yeah, this, yeah, right. So this is a,

Speaker 44 this is a guy here, Jess Staley, Staley. And he was basically, they said to him, they go, hey, man, why are you still working with Jeffrey Epstein long after you knew he had all these problems?

Speaker 44 And the guy's guy's going like,

Speaker 44 the real answer is the money's green. Yeah.
But he can't say that. He has to go, well, I don't, you know, I mean, it's hard to, well, I mean, you know,

Speaker 44 but the reality is

Speaker 44 the money is green.

Speaker 44 Began his second day in the witness box at his appeal against a proposed ban, a 1.8 million pound fine, saying he had no idea about the late financier Epstein's, quote, monstrous activities.

Speaker 44 So everybody's just got to run around now and say, hey, we're sorry we took the money.

Speaker 44 But everybody takes the money. Do we even care that they took it? I feel like we're just looking for somebody to punish.

Speaker 44 So now we're just going down the ladder and we're like, okay, you're, you're, uh, your assistant. You knew.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 There's, we, we want to, we need, we want closure. We want justice.
We want justice closure or something. So I think that we're trying to isolate these people and go, all right, you, we'll get you.

Speaker 5 Get ready for malice, a twisted new drama starring Jack Whitehall, David DeCovney, and Carice Van Houghton.

Speaker 14 Jack Whitehall plays Adam, a charming manny infiltrates the wealthy Tanner family with a hidden motive to destroy them.

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Speaker 44 Another question. This is different.

Speaker 44 What are your thoughts on J.D. Vance?

Speaker 44 Smart.

Speaker 44 Very smart.

Speaker 44 Had him on the show. Oh, you spoke to him? Had him on the show, interviewed him.
Yeah, what was his before the election?

Speaker 44 How prepared was he

Speaker 44 for you?

Speaker 44 I think prepared. Like he was acutely aware.
Yeah, I think J.D. Vance is a guy who's wanted to be at the highest levels of political life for a very long time, like Kamala Harris.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 They're not dissimilar in that way. Right.
Whereas I think Donald Trump's kind of a guy who's like just this wrecking ball of fame and, you know, interesting, these raw political instincts. J.D.

Speaker 44 Vance is a trained

Speaker 44 operator. Emotional intelligence through the roof.
Very high, knows what he's doing, has to tech people, has the

Speaker 44 Catholics.

Speaker 44 Disarming. disarming got a little bit of that like clinton disarming with the accent i think understands a lot of

Speaker 44 where what is motivating and incentivizing people right now in the political sphere yeah

Speaker 44 now

Speaker 44 what they do in the next four years and how it plays out is going to i think determine his future because he will i think to an extent own whatever happens so here's the thing what does he believe that's my only concern with him like i'm in yeah i'm impressed with the guy that like comes from like a really tough family situation, broke, goes to Yale, navigates the IV league thing without having any sort of like familial connectivity to it and really nothing to offer in value.

Speaker 44 It's not like I can understand if he was like a brilliantly talented minority or something and there was like some tenoran people.

Speaker 44 Oh, wait, did he, what did he say? No, no, no, I'm saying if he was. Oh, yeah, if he was an athlete or some shit, right? Manages that, says some crazy shit about Trump, ends up being the VP.

Speaker 44 Like, clearly, this guy knows how to make people feel comfortable. That's why I'm asking him when he's with you.
Is there like a, in the pre-conversation, is he doing things to disarm you?

Speaker 44 No, no, it's, it's all very, I think it's very, um,

Speaker 44 there's largely an understanding of the messaging. And the messaging on that campaign was, from his perspective, pretty, pretty tight.

Speaker 44 Trump was all over the place because Trump can be all over the place. J.D.
Vance was out there going, the elites have destroyed the country. Yeah.
Class war. Class war.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 They've betrayed American working working people with endless immigration, bad trade deals.

Speaker 44 The liberals are out of touch socially, culturally with the public.

Speaker 44 He hit a lot of those notes. I think they were accurate

Speaker 44 at the time.

Speaker 44 What the solutions will be is then that's the question. But he understands what was motivating people, just like Trump did.
I think.

Speaker 44 You know, and part of me speaking to Steve Bannon, it was very interesting when the Democratic Party became largely a party of college-educated coastal

Speaker 44 people.

Speaker 44 There was a pretentiousness. It was a pretentiousness.
He would talk down to people. And it didn't mean that there aren't elites all over the place, right? Musk is an elite.
All these guys are elites.

Speaker 44 But there was a certain... But they're embarrassed about it.

Speaker 44 When you're like a little bit elitist in like the South, there's that thing, don't put on airs. You know, that's it.

Speaker 44 Well, there's that, but there's also, there's a clownishness that almost saves Musk from being...

Speaker 44 He he looks retarded at the time. So it's almost like he's can't, it's not that he's talking down to you.
Yeah. He's crazy.
And I think that like,

Speaker 44 not that, and I've, I haven't said a good word about him recently, but like, there is something about that coastal elitism that when you talk down to people and you, people just recoil at that.

Speaker 44 Yeah, we, yeah, they hate it. And you can also like see the pendulum swing to the middle.
Like American culture, like country music is the most popular form. Right.

Speaker 44 Like it just like when we were growing up it was the heyday of the coasts right and like we what do we call them flyover states like we really felt it yeah sure I don't know if you felt it growing up but like we even felt it in the city right like if you're from Long Island that's a little different we were a little bit more but that's what I'm saying half and half it wasn't even like Tennessee is a flyover you're like oh you're from the outer boroughs right you're from something so there was this constantly which I imagine like drove people fucking crazy but I guess maybe there's like an aspirational quality too you're like I'm going to get there one day or I'm going to get that crazy house.

Speaker 44 I think it's, you know, it's a lack of, it was a little bit of a lack of investment in those regions and kind of letting those people, you know, shipping their jobs overseas and then letting them kind of fester and not caring about them.

Speaker 44 And then going, why are they all pissed? But I also think like the

Speaker 44 like letting, it's not like, and I don't want to say letting, but.

Speaker 44 you know, when they dropped interest rates to like zero or whatever, and then you have all these tech guys take out loans at 0% and then dump it into the market after the crisis and then make insane amounts of money.

Speaker 44 And I think the rest of America who are like financially illiterate like me, you have this feeling, you're going like, hold on, why are they getting so rich? Right.

Speaker 44 I'm not getting anything. And you have this runaway train where American excellence and opulence is leaving you behind.
So I understand the resentment of that. Yes.

Speaker 44 And you have to find a way to include those people in it. Yes.

Speaker 44 You have to have a country that works for as many people as possible. And you have have to have a culture that does.
That's the other thing. You can't dictate

Speaker 44 to people deeply personal things.

Speaker 44 And I think that's become apparent. What do you mean by that? Meaning, you can't tell people that their children are the property of the state or the education system.

Speaker 44 And,

Speaker 44 you know, for example, if a seven-year-old feels weird about their gender,

Speaker 44 you know, having a public school teacher tell them

Speaker 44 how things work

Speaker 44 is never going to make people happy. People really want to parent their children.
Yeah. And I think that the overreach

Speaker 44 has been creating this, you know, cultural space where like

Speaker 44 you feel like you're losing control of your family values,

Speaker 44 whatever they happen to be. Just the autonomy of of your family.
The autonomy of your family to

Speaker 44 public institutions that you may or may not agree with. And then you're going to naturally resent those public institutions.
And you naturally resent them. So a lot of it's overreach.

Speaker 44 It's like, it's never enough. No one gets power and goes, I'm good.
Yeah. It's always like more.

Speaker 44 Yeah, yeah. And it happens on the right.
It happens on the left. It's just people want more of the thing that they have.
It's just human nature to try to go, oh, it's this way for me.

Speaker 44 Well, it's going to be this way for you.

Speaker 44 And I think I've never been been interested in that. Our job is a weird job because we're outside a little bit.
We just get to make fun of who's in power. That's right.
It's very fun.

Speaker 44 We get to, well, we also just kind of like, we don't depend on the structures other people depend on.

Speaker 44 It's in a different way.

Speaker 44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, we're not in a corporate job.
I don't know what a human resources meeting is. I don't know what a educate college

Speaker 44 board is.

Speaker 44 We're just kind of accountable to the people that listen and come to see the shows. Yeah.
So, but people that are in those environments felt this stuff more than I did.

Speaker 44 Like a lot of the stuff that was coming in over the last four years, they kept having meeting after meeting after meeting. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And then they'd go to a meeting and you would show up to your job and they'd put you in a meeting and go, all right, so tell the whole team the last time you were racist.

Speaker 44 And you'd be sitting there and your black colleagues would be looking at you like, all right, and smiling because the black people were like, this isn't for us.

Speaker 44 They were like, this this is all like, well, this is hilarious.

Speaker 44 So it was just weird thing. Like, I remember DeStefano was on a show.
I forget. It was like Backyard Bar Wars or something.

Speaker 44 And then like in the beginning of the Backyard Bar Wars show, where they're reviewing tiki bars built in people's backyards, one of the producers

Speaker 44 said, let's have a moment of silence for Asian hate. Yeah.
And you had to kind of stand there. And then they would go, okay, good.
All right. Anyway, this tiki bar is shit.
And I'll tell you why.

Speaker 44 Bro, every every time I'm up in Canada doing like a show on like native land or whatever, you have to do a land acknowledgement. Right.
Have you done this when you ever

Speaker 44 and they get up there and they go, hey, this used, you actually sometimes have to say, you're like, this used to be native land or whatever.

Speaker 44 And I, and I was, I always felt like, this feels like we're rubbing it in a little. Like, yeah, it's a weird thing when you land in Australia, they're like, we like to give,

Speaker 44 you know, we like to acknowledge the past, present, and future guardians of the land, the elders, the tribal. And you're like.

Speaker 44 Isn't acknowledging it the least you can do? It's the least you can do. It's just for you.
They're not happy with the acknowledgement. It's the least you can do.

Speaker 44 But we're also living in a time now where it's almost like, if that's what you want to do, all right. Yeah.
I don't, don't leave me alone. Yeah.
Leave my money alone. Yeah.
That's fine. Yeah.

Speaker 44 That's okay. Is that your only idea?

Speaker 44 Okay.

Speaker 44 We'll do that. We're going to do that because the next idea is going to be, by the way, where's all your money? Yeah.
And it's not going to go to help anyone. It never does.

Speaker 44 It goes to to fund some bullshit thing that, you know, pays a bunch of six-figure salaries to people to study problems and never solve them. Yeah.

Speaker 44 But yeah, it's like there is just a certain amount of like, it's like you would say grace, and I'm not denigrating grace or religion or whatever, but that's kind of what it feels like. Yeah.

Speaker 44 It's like you say grace, then you. It's like, oh, we landed in Melbourne.
Okay, great. We're going to just say this.

Speaker 44 Hopefully it's good. Yeah.
Hopefully it's good. It's weird.
Do you think that?

Speaker 44 Yeah, I'm trying to think. Yeah, like the performative performative measures.
I wonder if that goes away. I wonder if that with this administration is.
It will go away.

Speaker 44 I think a lot of that will probably fade only because it's like it culture moves quickly.

Speaker 44 And I think that people are just going to get bored and of pretending. Yes.
And I think there's an exhaustion. There's an exhaustion.

Speaker 44 It's exhausting. And I think that hopefully where we find ourselves is a nuanced place where people realize the world is complex, people are complex, and we go back.

Speaker 44 Like my dream is to go back to the 90s. My dream is to go back to like,

Speaker 44 you're an individual, you sit on like a

Speaker 44 clunky big couch, you drink a cappuccino out of a big fishbowl.

Speaker 44 You listen to music, you tell your friend about it.

Speaker 44 They don't like it as much as you do. That pisses you off a little, but you don't let them know.
You think we're too invested in politics now?

Speaker 44 Not only are we too invested in politics, we're too invested in the collective in like, my business is your business and you got to do what I say.

Speaker 44 And to me, that's uninteresting. What's interesting is like figuring out how much you can,

Speaker 44 you know, develop yourself as a human being. And I think that gets really lost when you're constantly in these like collectives with people.
That's the way I like it at L.A.

Speaker 44 LA still. Comedically, you go in, you do your spot, and you kind of just go, thanks, everybody.
There's no hang.

Speaker 44 And you miss that sometimes in New York. I go, there's more of a hang in New York.
But sometimes it's really good to not have 20 people in your ear.

Speaker 44 Sometimes it's good to be like, let me just use my own fucking brain

Speaker 44 and figure out what I think independent without the social pressure of being.

Speaker 44 And social media has made that harder. No, that's a good point.
Social media, it's created like, in these like digital hangs that are informing your opinions about the world.

Speaker 44 And there are people who are terrified if their opinion goes against their like hang group or whatever right yeah that can and that's kind of how you saw comedy come up where each scene had a style right and it was kind of like everybody fit within the style like i remember when everybody was doing a tell in new york do you remember when everybody sounded like a tell yes and

Speaker 44 There are people listening right now that probably know comedians who came up under a tell that might not even be familiar with a tell. That's right.

Speaker 44 But they're whatever, gremlins off his back or whatever that is. Sure.
Yeah, that's that's interesting. Like there's a Colin Quinn school.
Yep. There's Yatel School.
Petries School. Petries School.

Speaker 44 Like there's all those different things. And like

Speaker 44 it's, it's impossible to not be influenced by people. I just think right now it's like

Speaker 44 there is something nice about just going

Speaker 44 like being

Speaker 44 a product of not a political reality, but of a culture and an environment going like, oh, I'm from Louisiana. We eat this.
This is what we believe. We like getting drunk.

Speaker 44 This is what we value. Not like, oh, I'm a

Speaker 44 fucking like

Speaker 44 communist, socialist, fascist, Marxist, Democrat, Republican, libertarian. Okay, yeah, but

Speaker 44 tell me more about your life. Where'd you come from? I wonder if, like, I wonder if

Speaker 44 that's more what I'm interested in. But yeah, but that's also probably more your life.
Like you're a gay guy

Speaker 44 who is could, I don't even want to say you're conservative. What do you conservative?

Speaker 44 I I would say

Speaker 44 like a gay guy who's a Nazi.

Speaker 44 That's kind of what I'm feeling. Gay guy, Nazi, Jew lover.

Speaker 44 I like a little Jew money. Got to watch him.
Got to watch him. Where are they going? There you go.
Hey. Yeah, it's.
You don't know where Dove is right now.

Speaker 44 I love the Jews, but I feel it's like a dog at a park. It's like, are they getting into something?

Speaker 44 So.

Speaker 44 That's the thing. Dove is renting out the other half of the studio right now.

Speaker 44 There's three tailors doing dance in there.

Speaker 44 But yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying. Like, your life is probably more individualistic.
I have a weird fucking life. Yeah, but I think you embrace that, obviously.
I think it's...

Speaker 44 You're not trying to conform. No.

Speaker 44 I conform to certain degrees.

Speaker 44 Like what?

Speaker 44 I don't think you conform in the way you dress. I don't think you conform to

Speaker 44 your ideas. I'm pretty wild in that shit, but I think we're all products of, like, I want to do well.

Speaker 44 Is that conforming? No, maybe not. Like, the people who reject, I mean, we talked about this a little before, but like the people who reject like wanting to do well.
Or trying. or trying.

Speaker 44 It's just like you're afraid of failing. And that's okay.
Like, we're all afraid of failing.

Speaker 44 Don't fail, pussy. Like, don't, it's okay to try.
It's okay to make a sick studio. It's okay to also have a sick one in New York.
It's like, right, trying is cool, and we admire that. That's right.

Speaker 44 But like doing the trying is gay thing, I can't wait till culture moves past that. Like that, I think, is the most un-American thing in the fucking world.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 But I've always thought interesting people to me are interesting. And that's what makes life worth it, not groups of people

Speaker 44 or even the political realities of like this way or that way. To me, it's like, I like to meet a person who's fucking weird.

Speaker 44 And like one idea doesn't correspond to the other. And you go, how'd you get there from there? But are you getting that in LA?

Speaker 44 I feel like there's, I feel like the, no, it's like the epitome of groupthink out here. Yeah.
It's a star-driven town. Everybody gravitates to the heat.

Speaker 44 I feel like New York is a little bit more where the misfits can kind of

Speaker 44 thrive. New York is more unique, but I'll give L.A.
this.

Speaker 44 As it craters to Earth like an asteroid,

Speaker 44 it will develop more of that. Yeah.
It will develop more of that.

Speaker 44 For a long time, it had the cockiness. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And now it doesn't. It's kind of interesting.
Now it's depressing and horrible, but there is something interesting about seeing a town like this get really humbled. Yeah.
And the people here are not.

Speaker 44 There's bad vibes everywhere. You go to a coffee shop, all these people, they just feel bad.
They know they're writing a script no one will ever read.

Speaker 44 They know they're in a relationship with someone who doesn't love them. They know that being fake doesn't even help anymore.

Speaker 44 They know that it doesn't even matter the bullshit political stuff you post on social media because nobody even cares.

Speaker 44 They know that none of it matters anymore. They're simply going through the motions.
They go to Pilates, they walk out. Yeah.
They know the homeless are barely into it now.

Speaker 44 You know, the homeless with the knife, it's like barely chasing.

Speaker 44 Everybody

Speaker 44 is, I think, going through the motions here. And it's interesting.
Nobody's not good, though. Like L.A.

Speaker 44 L.A. people, I mean, America in general runs on the idea that everybody's going to be a millionaire.
And L.A. runs on the idea that everybody's going to be famous.

Speaker 44 And the second they stop thinking they'll be famous is when shit gets a little rough. That's when the cults start.
And that's why I'm still here. Oh, you're waiting for the cults.

Speaker 44 I will put 50 people in a backyard. Don't think I will not put 50 people in a backyard.
The cults are, we are right on the edge of a thriving cult cult environment here.

Speaker 44 The conditions are ripe. The conditions are right.
If you are a 20-year-old actor,

Speaker 44 let me help you. If you're a male, we're not going to do the females in the cult.
It distracts it. So it's a male cult of people in their early 20s who have dedicated their life to fitness and acting.

Speaker 44 And if it's not working out, there's other... places we can go vibrationally with energy.
Yeah. Vibrationally with energy, you know?

Speaker 44 But no, there's going to be, I'm telling you, my prediction, when you say, what's going to happen to LA? Yeah.

Speaker 44 Vassal state of China with the real estate, because they're going to come in and buy all the real estate. And then cults, as far as the eye can see, I mean, you want cults like you, I mean cults.

Speaker 44 Like these fuckers will be in the backyard of a coffee shop in a thought circle. There'll be rampant meditation.
Some will go into Islam. Bitches will have burqas walking around Weeho.

Speaker 44 They are going to find

Speaker 44 this is going to be, it's like Scientology had the whole monopoly on cults here for a long time. Yeah, but now it's going, it's like in Chicago, they bulldozed this big project, Cabrini Green.

Speaker 44 And what happened was you had lots of smaller gangs. They put all the people that had ran that for a long time in jail.

Speaker 44 So then all the younger guys were like, well, I'll just start a gang on every street. Yeah.
And then it got crazy. That's going to be cults in LA.
I believe the future is cults. Like this.

Speaker 44 Because people, the cult was fame. The cult was sex.
The cult was money.

Speaker 44 After fame and money are gone, you'll just have sex.

Speaker 44 So then you need a charismatic cult leader to put everybody in the backyard. Go to the desert.
Get in the van. Get on the bus.
And that's why I'm, that's where I find it interesting, actually.

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Speaker 44 What's Joshua Tree? A dump.

Speaker 44 It's kind of a discount. It's where people go to take a bunch of shrooms and go, why isn't it working? I'll tell you why it's working.
Palm Springs.

Speaker 44 You're bad.

Speaker 44 They go to commune with these entities and these entities get so bored. That's a little my thing with like the ayahuasca and shit.
It seems like this like quick fix. Like you're depressed.

Speaker 44 I know.

Speaker 44 First of all, ayahuasca was not invented so you could get a Range Rover that's not why the Incans were doing these ceremonies it was not so you could strategize how to get a walk-on roll on hack season four

Speaker 44 it was so that you could commune with elders that had left the physical reality that you were in it was the whole point that's so funny so all these people take it if your shaman

Speaker 44 get a job no if your shaman is named jessica she's not a shaman she's a white chick from phoenix You're a junkie. You're a junkie.
You're doing ketamine therapy. You're a junkie.

Speaker 44 And there's nothing wrong with it. Just admit it.
We get it. Yeah.
So people go to Joshua Tree. It's pretty and whatever, but they're going there to have some experience.

Speaker 44 But I see people from LA like treating it as their like getaway, their two-hour getaway. I want to see it.
Because look at it. This is what they want.
Look at that. Isn't that a nice getaway?

Speaker 44 It's called Iraq.

Speaker 44 Bagram Air Force Base. They go out there and they take a bunch of psychedelics and then they communicate with some entity and the entity goes,

Speaker 44 It's the entity so tired at this point. And they're because the entity is in the realm and the entity's like, hello.
And then you're like, UTA is kind of,

Speaker 44 they're kind of hit pocketing me. And the entity goes, you're not bringing anything to the table.
There's nothing for you.

Speaker 44 And no, listen, it's a town about making the unbelievable believable. So you've got to go into the desert and take a bunch of drugs.

Speaker 44 That's okay. Yeah.
That's okay. Nothing wrong with it.
No. Nothing wrong with it.
That's where I got banned from Airbnb.

Speaker 44 I can never rent an Airbnb in my life. I cannot put a property I own on Airbnb because of the two lesbians in Joshua Tree.
Still to this day. To this day.
And have you had any communication?

Speaker 44 I had Rogan asked the CEO. He's like, no, we're not putting him back on.
Wow. Yeah.
I'm going to change that for you. I would love that.

Speaker 44 But I also say a lot of negative things about Airbnb and we'll continue to. All right.
Well, I might not change that for you. Yeah.

Speaker 44 What is this?

Speaker 44 What is that?

Speaker 44 Is this Joshua Tree? Is it people tripping out? Yeah, some guys on shrooms in a Joshua Tree Airbnb.

Speaker 44 Welcome. Please, take a seat.
Join us in the world's very first shroom room. So we're at Petite Noir, one of our properties, and we decided to make this room into your own sanctuary in Joshua Tree.

Speaker 44 We made this room so people can just, you know, play things. Is this a joke? Is it a sketch? Enjoy the serenity and peacefulness of Joshua Tree.

Speaker 44 And it might be a polarizing thing for many people, but we know

Speaker 44 that I don't think it is. Ryan.

Speaker 44 With the the sketches and the actual promotion material you know i don't know what it is i love that they put up shroom wallpaper they're like we've created a sanctuary people out here are different and that's the problem what else have you been plugged into

Speaker 44 recently yeah i'm really interested in the um

Speaker 44 what i'm really interested in now actually is like uh the people that are obsessed with living forever oh yeah and like super foods and like the way they're all trying to hack immortality Obviously, there's that Brian Johnson or whatever his name is, who's like taking his son's blood.

Speaker 44 Yeah. But there's also a lot of other like cottage industries popping up right now.
Yeah. To just increase more.
Like people that are just like, I'm, I want to do it forever. Forever.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 So that's kind of interesting to me. That's the ultimate hubris to me is that you'll beat death.
Yeah. That's fun to me.
Yeah. I like that.
I like when human beings get silly

Speaker 44 and it's a little silly to me to go, I'm going to beat death. Yeah.
That's a fun one. I like that.
That's a drink.

Speaker 44 I know a guy who was a producer and now he's like up in like Santa Barbara area and he's like, you know, doing superfood stuff to try to like hack, biohack immortality and like, you know, live to 130.

Speaker 44 So it's interesting. Yeah.
That stuff is fun to me. Yeah, I sat down with the Brian guy.
What did you think about him? I thought he was interesting. Like he believes it.

Speaker 44 Like that's the thing with a lot of these guys, like whether it's, you know, aliens or like there's, there's certain people who they don't believe it, but they're making money on it. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And then there's certain people who believe it, even though we might believe they're crazy. That's right.
And I like the people who believe it a little bit more because now they're more con artists.

Speaker 44 It's kind of nice. So I don't think he's a con artist, but he is like, I think he was like a pretty devout Mormon that went through some crazy shit.
And I think he's kind of replacing that

Speaker 44 the void that leaving the religion. has created has maybe been filled with I'm going to live forever and help everybody else live forever.
That's right. And

Speaker 44 interesting. I also think there's like

Speaker 44 there's a virtue in it. Sure.

Speaker 44 Like, I'm going to help everybody else be healthy. And I'm going to

Speaker 44 give yourself a purpose. Yeah.
And a discipline. And that's what I think a lot of people in life lack.
Is purpose and discipline.

Speaker 44 Well, yeah, you got to, you got to, we, we tell people you got to get rich, you got to do this, you got to do that, whatever. But we, we, we should be telling people

Speaker 44 that they should develop genuine interests yeah and those interests may or may not correspond to financial gain yeah and they're those are two different things but you should be a person who has interests and cares about things and has hobbies and has a full life and like you know you don't have to be rich you don't have to be you know it's nice to have more money than less yeah but like you know i think what happens is

Speaker 44 it almost feels weird to me this guy goes i want to live forever but what about the quality of life? Yeah. What exact for what? Yeah.
That's who, that's a question. That's what we asked him.

Speaker 44 It was just like, is this worth it? Like you might live forever, but the life seems horrible. It seems odd to just want to live forever without a purpose.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 I understand people that go, I want to live forever because I'm finally going to do this thing. And when I, there should be something.

Speaker 44 that you can accomplish where then you go and now i'm ready to die yeah if there isn't life has absolutely no meaning. If there's not one mountain to climb, you know what I mean?

Speaker 44 There's got to be something you can say where you go, I did it. I did it.
I'm cool even. I'm good.
Yeah. I'm good.
At the end of the day, there's got to be something there. Yeah.

Speaker 44 What about the people that don't have an interest? I think that's the tricky thing about

Speaker 44 it. I guess, well, maybe, I don't know if it's like the dreamer culture in America is like, not everybody got a fucking dream.
No, of course.

Speaker 44 And then they feel like losers when they don't have the dream. Those people, I think, can be the happiest people in the world if

Speaker 44 they not only accept that, but they then they have to develop because not everyone has a dream or a purpose, and that's cool, but everybody has things they like. Exactly.
So, yeah, things they like.

Speaker 44 Yeah. But it, but here, if the thing you like doesn't make you money, then you're just like a loser with a hobby.
When in reality, you could be the happiest person on the planet.

Speaker 44 You'd be the happiest person on the planet. Yeah.
There are people I know who just, for whatever reason, have a few things they like. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And their lives are arranged around how often they can do those things.

Speaker 44 And some of those things are narcotics.

Speaker 44 Some of those things are cheating on. You can't tell me they're not the happiest people.
Some of those things are marital infidelity. Some of them are narcotics.

Speaker 44 Some of them are driving under the influence. Whatever you're doing,

Speaker 44 no, but I do think you got to arrange your life. Like I have friends that just like to travel.
Travel to me, and this is a take that people get mad at me for, is the most overrated thing.

Speaker 44 Oh, why? I'll tell you why. I always have a reason.
You never have to ask why. No, but I think it's the most overrated thing.

Speaker 44 The least intelligent people I know are the most well-traveled all the time. It's a sub-travel.
It's this sub-travel.

Speaker 44 I absolutely love it. It's well-traveled.

Speaker 44 Okay.

Speaker 44 It's fine.

Speaker 44 Maybe you're the exception. Okay, go, go, go, go, go.
But I think you probably are the exception.

Speaker 44 Most people who travel feel that it is a substitute for having a genuine personality, a genuine perspective, genuine takes. They never spend long enough in a place to learn anything valuable.

Speaker 44 It is the aesthetic of going, taking a few photos, throwing them up on social media. For example, my grandmother lived in the same town for 50 years, went to one or two different countries.

Speaker 44 There were 200 people at her funeral.

Speaker 44 I guarantee she had a fuller life and knew more about the world from watching that town change over 50 years than somebody who takes photos.

Speaker 44 We know comics, and they'll be like, when I was in Kuala Lumpur, and I'm like, you're homeless. Yeah, yeah.
I know that you traveled there, but now.

Speaker 44 So, yeah, you're talking about like Instagram travel for sure. A little bit of that, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 Listen, you're doing that. You're performing for people.
You're doing something in the country. I like traveling in general, but I also have like a real curiosity about these places that I'm sure.

Speaker 44 For sure. So there's certain places I'm going to go where I'm like, this looks like an awesome fucking hotel.
Like

Speaker 44 the Ammans are the best hotel I've ever been to in my entire life.

Speaker 44 Great, great unbelievable great and uh but outside of that like just going to these different places has been fantastic but i'm like a nerd about travel like i get like a tour guide to take me around the city and teach me everything about that city i'm in istanbul with a tour guide me and my wife and we're just walking around and then i'm asking questions or writing notes

Speaker 44 sure so okay if that's what you're doing well that's terribly annoying it seems horrible and i'm sure that like it drives my wife crazy at times But for me, if I'm diving, like when I went to Japan, right?

Speaker 44 Everybody goes to Japan. They're like, oh my God, it's the best place in the world.
Japan is torture to me. It is absolute fucking torture.
It is people are going to hate this.

Speaker 44 Yeah, because they don't understand life. Like, that's why.
I've never been. You couldn't.
It could be right. You'll have the best pizza you've ever had in your entire life.

Speaker 44 You'll have the best steak you've ever had in your entire life. They're done with their culture.
Now they're just refining other culture shit.

Speaker 44 And they have this beautiful cultural specificity where they have to make everything perfect. There's a shame in them.
Like, you know how everybody in America turns 30 and they want to be a DJ?

Speaker 44 There's no shame in us. Right.
We have no shame to do something mediocre. I know.
Matter of fact, it's to the not try hard thing we were talking about. They are reciplicu.
They kill themselves.

Speaker 44 If they're not, they're not.

Speaker 44 I would rather be dead than the shame. Yeah.

Speaker 44 Now,

Speaker 44 what they have is there is no love in the culture at all. Okay.
So you go there for a few days, you take your pictures and you're like, oh, this is awesome.

Speaker 44 You see the little harijuki girls and stuff like that. You don't really notice much.
And then you leave and you're like, Japan is the coolest place ever.

Speaker 44 You don't see a single women stop aging at 13 years old they're not allowed to be elegant and beautiful they can be cute you go to every any fucking clothing store their every skirt is at their fucking knee or they're dressed like a cartoon character like it is

Speaker 44 I've been to a bunch of places it's by far the most sexy place I've ever seen in my entire life and like oppressively sex like I don't even exist I don't even know if a single woman in Japan has had an orgasm with a Japanese dude okay because it's just not part of like oh we need to do that right like I was speaking to these women they were like we went out to eat with a couple people and they're like it's the most absurd thing you've ever seen like dating here is unbelievably painful okay they got to like develop cultural mechanisms for them to meet people now right like knocking on a wall a lot of people just go to the sex cafe and jerk off with the cat they've just they've like

Speaker 44 but that's what they're doing i think and i think that's good actually but they've like yeah they've they've uh what is it called uh they've like monetized every little aspect of culture that you can eat oh you need a nap here's a nap like there's no just like a free willingness that you might have in like in italy or even like the caribbean this like natural love.

Speaker 44 You have a kid around and everybody starts coming around and saying hi and pinching the kids' cheeks in this fucking love, right?

Speaker 44 So I'm in it. I got scolded.
Me and my wife are in like an underground illegal bar and I kiss my wife and the bartender scolds it. We're in an illegal bar.

Speaker 44 And she says, you're not allowed to kiss your wife? The dude. Oh.
The bartender. Wow.
So it's just this, we have this idea of it, and they have a beautiful thing.

Speaker 44 You're going to have the best of the best. Is there honor? In what? I don't know.
It feels like an honor-bound culture. There's honor.
Yeah, I feel like people say that, but like honor for what?

Speaker 44 It's like... I don't know.
You're saying there's no love.

Speaker 44 Zero love.

Speaker 44 What'd you say? Zero love. But is maybe there is what we're recognizing as love, like the ooey gooey American kissy-huggy love, do they have honor instead of love? I think

Speaker 44 another word is sacrifice. And I think that the culture is built around sacrificing like what you want.
Like maybe we're the complete opposite where we don't want to sacrifice at all.

Speaker 44 What makes me feel good? Give it to me, inject it into me. Right.
Right.

Speaker 44 And just seeing, yeah, it's just so, yeah, just seeing it, it was like really hard to be in. Can you play this? Play this woman.
I want to hear what she.

Speaker 44 This is kind of interesting.

Speaker 44 I've never been, so I think.

Speaker 44 You have a dated American person, right?

Speaker 65 Yes, yes. I've been in a relationship with American people.

Speaker 44 Dating culture in Japan, in the States, any differences?

Speaker 65 Yes, I would say my Japanese ex-boyfriend, I had to assume a lot of things because they are not really communicative.

Speaker 65 So we assume something, you know testing the water but like in in America you have to say whatever you have to say I learn myself a lot through the relationship because sometimes I have to bring up something that I don't feel comfortable with my ex-boyfriend says something that makes me feel uncomfortable but because of that I get to learn about myself a lot so so you're open to date Japanese person or date American person or do you have any preferences right now after dating both I don't think I have preferences but I would say at least showing interest in Japanese culture or Japanese language would be really big for me.

Speaker 65 Or like Japanese people who speak both languages because I'm bilingual I don't really see myself feeling super comfortable only speaking Japanese anymore I like to mix the language you know it doesn't really matter they're Japanese American but if they're bilingual or biculture I feel more comfortable being around them they're coming on board bro yeah they want coming on board they want the they want the Americans it is interesting where would you say your favorite place that you've gone is you've you've now just destroyed Japan as a loveless

Speaker 44 also we went to like Kyoto That's another thing, which is like a Disney world. Like, people like love it.
It's like, oh, it's ancient Japanese. You have these little geisha girls walking around.

Speaker 44 It feels so performative, nonsense, bullshit. It's like interesting.
People do love it, though.

Speaker 44 They love it because they don't.

Speaker 44 Right. I'm not disagreeing.
I just have never seen it. They love it like they love Austin.
Like, you don't really love it.

Speaker 44 Austin's the greatest city in the world. Okay.
I agree completely.

Speaker 44 It's amazing. It's great.
Well, I like, here's what I like. You come to a place that doesn't have a restaurant and then you move there.
You're like, oh my God.

Speaker 44 I love that the trees are dead in all of the season. Yeah, that's the beautiful thing.
That's the night because you want to see life.

Speaker 44 Sometimes trees have leaves and then they go away, but in Austin, they're just always dead. Always dead.
I like it. And it's too windy to eat outside.

Speaker 44 Oh, a tomato fell out of my salad because of the wind. It hit me on the chest.
Well, that's where we should eat out.

Speaker 44 You're down one tomato, but you're also down listeria, which you would have gotten from it. You know, that's a good point.
Yeah, that's it. You're assuming I didn't eat it.
The produce is not washed.

Speaker 44 You're assuming. It's from Mexico.
It's unwashed. It's good, though.
It is good.

Speaker 44 Best place? Best place.

Speaker 44 I mean, it depends what you want, but like uh like indulgence france 100 yeah south of france i love the south south of france is amazing but and it's like what i'm pretending i don't give a you love italy i love italy but i also like for different reasons like the french are like hey listen we we are done with anything that is inconvenient to us it got to smell the best it's got to taste the best right it's got to feel the best right it's got the bed has to be the most comfortable yeah i'm not going to be uh inconvenienced in any way i i have to work how many days we're not going to do that We're not like the whole culture is built around make me feel good in the moment.

Speaker 44 So if you want to go someplace for three days and feel fucking good. It's south of France.
You can go there. It's very nice.
Italy, amazing, obviously. Just like raw passion about everything.

Speaker 44 Turkey, you love the history. Yeah, Turk, that's like, that's some cool shit.
If you want to get into the history, I think that's some cool shit. Absolutely.
Italy, you love the...

Speaker 44 All of the...

Speaker 44 You know what's Italy? What was surprising? Dessert? S.

Speaker 44 Yeah, because they use oil and not cream. You're such a, you're a culture.
For a guy who doesn't travel, you're a real culture. That's why the guys at the stand, whom I love, stop with this.

Speaker 44 Whatever you're doing there, I've given you 50 suggestions about what desserts to do, and they still bring out like Nona's olive oil.

Speaker 44 Can you break this down to the people out here who might not understand?

Speaker 44 Just because the pasta and the sauce and these things are delicious doesn't mean you have understood dessert.

Speaker 44 Remove the ego of the olive oil. We get it.
It's good for your fucking dark or some shit. Get it out of there.
It's dessert. We're not caring about our heart.
When I choose dessert,

Speaker 44 their whole thing, I think, is it's a little termisu, gelato, but it's not, you know. But look, you named the two things that got cream.
That's two things with cream. Everything else is not good.

Speaker 44 If it doesn't have milk in it, we don't want to have a thing. And by the way, here's the other thing.
I have, you know, are you a guy that says Italian food is in Italy.

Speaker 44 How much better is it than in American? I don't like this idea that it's like that much better. That's what I agree with you.

Speaker 44 This is the other thing where it's like we often say things that like people will agree with us and then cheer. It's like the idea that New York doesn't have comparable food.
It's psychotic.

Speaker 44 It's like what I will say is the regular mom and pop restaurant on the side of the road in Italy is better than the regular.

Speaker 44 But if you're going to elite Italian,

Speaker 44 like honestly, it's probably better in New York. It might be a crazy take, but it might be better in New York.
New York's your favorite city.

Speaker 44 Yeah,

Speaker 44 it is the best. It is.
It's the best in the world. But it is the best and it's not even even like an argument.
I'm not arguing.

Speaker 44 But who would, what would be the argument against it? That's what I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 44 Knowing that you can go out east if you want to. There's a certain feeling in July

Speaker 44 when you dip into Lake Austin

Speaker 44 in the green, in the greenness, and a brain-eating amoeba swims up your nose and attaches to your brain. You have 48 hours to live.

Speaker 44 And you spend that 48 hours on 6th Street watching horse fights,

Speaker 44 cops on horses fight with people and paralyzed frat kids who are fighting.

Speaker 44 It's just something special about them. It's like 190 degrees.
And they're just having a nice refreshing slab of brisket.

Speaker 44 I mean, that's the perfect food when it's 190 degrees. Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, no, listen, respect. I like Dallas and I like Houston.
And Austin, you know, it's, we, we have our, we have our things.

Speaker 44 I like the visit. Comedy.
I love Joe.

Speaker 44 If we didn't love comedy, we wouldn't wouldn't love it. We love comedy.
We love comedy. It's a good place for comedy.
We love to do comedy, and we love our friends, our brethren.

Speaker 44 This looks insane here. It just looks like a me.
You know, the fights on the street, it's a melee. Yeah.
It's a melee. It's fun when you're 19.

Speaker 44 Yeah, it's like when you, it's like somebody took New Orleans and was like, hey, how about no culture? We'll just do this.

Speaker 44 I've said the exact same thing. It's a cleaner New Orleans.
Yeah. And what's nice about New Orleans is it's dirty.
It's dirty. It's interesting.
And it's cool. It's cool.
It's history. Yeah.

Speaker 44 I like I like New Orleans.

Speaker 44 Where's a guy like you think about,

Speaker 44 do you ever think of, you know, a lot of New Yorkers have like a spot in a garden district and live in New Orleans, but that's too much. Like occasionally going down.

Speaker 44 Maybe. I mean, I just like it.
Maybe it's a visit. Too many actors I know have done it.

Speaker 44 It just feels too it's like it's hack now, you're saying it just feels a little, it's just, I don't know, it's a certain type of person who's doing it. Yeah.
You know? Yeah, I just like it.

Speaker 44 I feel like I don't like, I feel like it is large. Like when I lived in Texas, I was like, they don't want us here and I don't want to be here.

Speaker 44 And it's not because they have a culture that I respect and I actually like.

Speaker 44 I like Texans. I love Texans and I love their culture.
And I don't, I feel good visiting and appreciating it. I don't want to pretend to be it.

Speaker 44 Yeah. What I talk about is like when we have these conversations where people start pretending it's like on the level of global cities is like

Speaker 44 Paris or Mexico City. It's psychotic.
People, yeah. Maybe in a, you know, 400 years, maybe we'll be there.
I like, I just, you know, I like cultures to be their thing, and I like to appreciate it.

Speaker 44 I like to go to Paris and go, man, I appreciate this culture, but I'm not going to go there and put on a beret. Yeah, we don't need that.
That's the thing. We don't need to do that.

Speaker 44 I think everyone's got it. And if you feel genuinely like that is your culture down there, then God bless you and I respect you and love you.

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Speaker 44 Here's a really fucking pretentious one. Yeah.
But some, I mean, sometimes they get it right, these rich motherfuckers. Yeah, a lot of times.
A lot of times.

Speaker 44 St. Bart's.
Have you done the St. Bart's? I never have.
I've seen you do it. I've never done it.
And listen, I'm, I'm like, I'm sure they've gotten it right.

Speaker 44 And I, again, I'll tell you, like, when I experience something, I'm not like on some gatekeeper shit. Like, I love being the guy who had nothing, not nothing.

Speaker 44 Obviously, I was good, so, but like, compared to these billionaire motherfuckers, right? I like going to their shit and then just telling everybody about it and then ruining it. Yeah.

Speaker 44 So, uh, I'd like you to go like, I'd like to be a guy that has nothing. You're like a famous multi-millionaire.
I like to be a guy that has nothing. Compared to them.

Speaker 44 Who finds myself? No, I mean, like, I could never, like, my family would never be able to go to St. Bart's or something.
No, of course. But then...
Look at it. It's stunning.
Pretty. It's interesting.

Speaker 44 So this island, right? It's actually kind of fucked up. But like all the islands in the Caribbean had like people there.

Speaker 44 And here's the one that like miraculously didn't. Right.
I wonder where they went. Right.
Anyway, like Norway owns it or something like that. Then France gets it.

Speaker 44 And France just goes, yo, we're going to make South of France. on this island, but there's no indigenous population.

Speaker 44 So we don't got to feel bad about like oppressing a group of people who already live here and like eliminating their culture.

Speaker 44 So they just made south of france on this island so that when it's cold and they can't be in south of france they go there they go there i gotta try it i've never been in south of

Speaker 44 this you would love it also like the people there obviously all like i i'm sure all your fans know this now but like the elites love you and you like roast them more than anybody on the planet but they love you for some reason maybe it's like a self-loathing or something thank god well i have no power to do anything to them but they love you they

Speaker 44 i'm not lena kahn who's gonna bro antitrust break up their companies every time time I can't let this idiot with sunglasses say whatever he wants every time I go to Polo Bar in New York City the whole staff is like yo when is Timmy coming in that's very you bring well that's sweet of the staff and I keep telling them yeah

Speaker 44 that you're gonna come and then what happens no I I never go I should go yeah I have my weird spots I'm a creature of habit and I go to like a few places actually I feel like you'd really like that you like it you like a wasp it it's important it's important we have people who don't cry and are stoic and that we need a little bit of that.

Speaker 44 Do the Jews in the Northeast want to be wasps? Some of them, but not really.

Speaker 44 I think that the WASP culture is the American culture, and people don't like to hear that, but it is very much the American culture of like privacy, minding your business.

Speaker 44 It's not the Irish Catholic culture. The culture that I come from is like wailing and screaming and crying and singing and fighting and all this.

Speaker 44 The WASP culture is like stoic, Calvinist, Protestant, like shut up, own your house, keep your shit clean, don't be ostentatious. Like, don't drive a dumb car like me.

Speaker 44 Don't wear these dumb sunglasses.

Speaker 44 don't be a monster it is the way it is very much the american culture and then it's fun to have these little enclaves that are not that beverly hills and this and that but the wasp culture is the american culture and like tori birch is a who lives out in southampton she's a jew that has become a wasp but i feel like true ralph ralph lauren is another version he's another wasp like he's another one i feel like almost like we grew up in new york city there's a perception that like those cultures have like molded in some of them but but we also have the loudest and most jewish people ever in in New York.

Speaker 44 Got it. Where you would say that the wasp would look at that and be like, eh, you're causing a scene.
Why are you making a big deal about this?

Speaker 44 Yeah, it's just the wasp things, there's a few places that they dwell. And it's like Nantucket and, you know, there's Cape Cod or whatever.

Speaker 44 Yeah, and even there's parts of the Hamptons, like the Southampton Bathing Corp is very waspy, but the rest of Southampton isn't. And the Hamptons has kind of been colonized and taken over.

Speaker 44 And, you know, there's a little bit in the Berkshires, the WASP culture, but like the WAP cult, the WASP culture.

Speaker 44 And there's a little bit, you know, a little bit in Northern California, Santa Barbara, whatever. And there's, you know, a little bit around Georgia, Sea Island, places like that, Palm Beach.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 But it's dying. It is dying.
But I feel like the Jews have like embraced it and marketed it better than the Wasps ever could.

Speaker 44 Yeah, the Jews figured out how to sell it.

Speaker 44 They figured out how to sell it. And you sell, like, it's amazing.
The Wasps that I talked to Tucker about this became drunks.

Speaker 44 And they didn't, and they had these fortunes that they were living off of and they all went to these elite boarding schools and their parents had fortunes not billion dollar fortunes some of them were but a lot of them were like

Speaker 44 a lot of money just enough money to not try hard and not really work and a lot of these people just retired to maine or wherever and just kind of like yeah moved into their summer houses and didn't keep

Speaker 44 didn't keep pace with

Speaker 44 Jewish people and Arabs and the Chinese who now are the big money players. Sorry, Irish.
Not you.

Speaker 44 Yeah, so there's just not not enough ambition in it, you're saying? Yeah, they were living. It's like the old Spanish Empire living off the largesse of having gold and stuff.

Speaker 44 It's like just and not having to innovate and just kind of becoming decrepit. I think part of that is the story of the American Wasps.
A lot of them,

Speaker 44 you know, the government was a lot of WASP, a lot of WASPs at the CIA and Skull and Bones. And a lot of them went into politics.
And they went into the machinery of government.

Speaker 44 And there are some great fortunes there, but not nearly as many. And none of them are new.
A lot of the new fortunes are the new IPOs. Yeah.
And a lot of that, that's not WASPs.

Speaker 44 They're in very traditional modes of making money, which is like banking and real estate insurance. It's kind of boring.

Speaker 44 They're not as likely to be in tech or any of the, you know, kind of the new money players. It's weird.
Like, it's almost like the generational wealth in America.

Speaker 44 Like in other countries, they would just like own sugar. Right.
Like, what happened to that in America?

Speaker 44 Like, i thought all the rich people just owned the most it called the commodity most resources in america can be produced cheaply other places so those families lost their competitive advantage well they also don't want to pay americans to do it so they're like why are we going to pay americans to work at these places when we can we can ship all of this stuff and that's a lot of what jd vance and these guys are talking about now how they're you know these tariffs It's a long play to bring back manufacturing.

Speaker 44 There's going to be a lot of blood in the water. It's a long play.

Speaker 44 But

Speaker 44 the reality is,

Speaker 44 you know, people that don't have jobs, and you know, because they worked in those sectors of the economy, manufacturing being the primary one that we're talking about,

Speaker 44 have been

Speaker 44 the beneficiaries of very cheap products and goods. But it still hasn't given their lives purpose and meaning.
They don't have that job.

Speaker 44 you know, they don't have that community. Those communities got hollowed out.
Those factories got shipped overseas. You know, so I think that like that's a big reason that,

Speaker 44 and you're you're you're correct to notice that that like

Speaker 44 where is that pride in american ownership or american made stuff we don't really have it we just have pride in

Speaker 44 the result

Speaker 44 the money and however it's made yeah so it is interesting i mean this is a very

Speaker 44 interesting thing that's why if you own assets if you own real estate or stocks you've made a lot of money over the past 50 years because all of those things have gone way up. Yeah.

Speaker 44 Bonds, all that. If you're somebody who makes money on the W-2, if you're a wage employee, you're not really, you haven't seen your wages increase.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 So, and things have gotten more expensive. So you're getting fucked, but the people that own stuff

Speaker 44 aren't. So I think that's the challenge is to try to balance that out.

Speaker 44 Tell me about Steve Bannon. Very interesting guy.

Speaker 44 Rich guy,

Speaker 44 made a lot of money,

Speaker 44 has been saying, he's like Bernie Sanders in the sense they've been saying the same thing for 30 years. Whether you like him or hate him.
Does he want to help? Does he want to just cause a ruckus?

Speaker 44 No, I think he wants to help. I think that I wouldn't agree with him on all, down the line, everything, but I think he understands overall

Speaker 44 the idea that we've created a situation with China that seems untenable, meaning that we've put ourselves in this position with Taiwan, with these chips, with China, where

Speaker 44 we are

Speaker 44 vulnerable in ways that people don't imagine we are.

Speaker 44 And I think he's recognized that outsourcing all of our manufacturing, having 90% of our antibiotics made over there and things like that have made us vulnerable in ways that people don't think we are.

Speaker 44 And, you know, and this idea, the trade-off of like, hey, but the shirts are cheap at Walmart isn't a trade-off that makes sense to him?

Speaker 44 And it would make sense to other people. There's smart people on the other side that says, No, it is better, and here's why.

Speaker 44 We have a service sector, go be a bartender or something. I don't know.

Speaker 44 Steve Bannon's whole point is: when you take the manufacturing core out of the country and you replace it with a gig economy of people driving Ubers and DoorDash and Lyft, that's

Speaker 44 all of those people are going to need some form of government assistance because their lives

Speaker 44 have been kind of miserated by these conditions of like not being able to have a steady income at a job. And I think he says, you know, he goes, that is a big problem.

Speaker 44 Now, the people that make a lot of money from importing people to come into America to cut grass and do nails and babysit your kids and tutor your kids and the tech guys who like to bring H, these visas, there's indentured servants, and you put five guys in a room and go, just code.

Speaker 44 I don't want to pay America. Steve Bannon, who everyone calls it racist, was the only person I've ever said.

Speaker 44 I've never heard anyone say there should be more black and Hispanic people in tech, and it's a crime that there's not. That's the Steve Bannon quote.

Speaker 44 That's the Steve Bannon quote. So is America first

Speaker 44 from Bannon? Is he the...

Speaker 44 I think so. I think he's the one.
I think he's the guy that put that.

Speaker 44 political philosophy into

Speaker 44 perspective in a very eloquent way. There's very few people that have done it the way he's done it.
How does he feel about the current administration?

Speaker 44 He's very skeptical as I am about a lot of the tech people. He thinks they're using Trump.
He thinks they were Democrats till about five minutes ago. Which seems like they were.

Speaker 44 And then they all became Republicans and they all have tons of money. He likens them to oligarchs.
I think he's absolutely right. And a lot of them want to.

Speaker 44 you know, go to Mars or put chips in people. A lot of them are transhumanists.

Speaker 44 And, you know, their goals are pretty radical when measured against what American people are talking about right now, which is like better wages or health care or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 44 A lot of people are not super invested in going to Mars.

Speaker 44 So I think Bannon thinks they're laundering their, what they want, the Bezos, Andreessen, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg people are laundering their true intentions through this America first thing.

Speaker 44 And now they're all like, hey, I like bow hunting and I think we should be less woke or whatever.

Speaker 44 But Bannon's like, no, the end game for these guys is to just suck money out of of the government the way the big financial institutions did in 2008, when they put a gun to the head of George W.

Speaker 44 Bush and said, we need trillions of dollars or this whole market collapses. He thinks that that moment is coming where the tech people go, we need a Marshall Plan.

Speaker 44 We need all of this tax revenue so that we can go compete with China with AI because the deep seek thing came out. And if it is to be believed that that is true, we are behind in AI.

Speaker 44 We are losing to them with TikTok. They have a much more addictive algorithm.
The biggest app in the last five years, the Chinese app.

Speaker 44 So we're losing to them. So he thinks the tech people are going to go and put a gun to Trump's head and go, we need trillions of dollars now.
And that is going to be financed by the taxpayers.

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Speaker 44 If the tech CEOs say we need trillions of dollars, is

Speaker 44 their goal benevolent in that they want to beat China in this AI race? Or is that a Trojan horse so that they could just funnel that? It's a little bit of ball.

Speaker 44 I think they do want to be competitive, but they're also, they've become the wealthiest people that have ever lived. They're probably going to be trillionaires very soon.
And the country...

Speaker 44 is suffering from

Speaker 44 a tremendous amount of wealth inequality.

Speaker 44 And that's driving people to political extremism, to fentanyl addiction, to our cities, a lot of them are unlivable. These are problems.
And I think Bannon recognizes that you can't have

Speaker 44 five trillionaires deciding the fate of humanity. They also want to merge with AI.
They want to get rid of human beings.

Speaker 44 They want to put chips in us that will significantly alter your humanity so that you can compete with AI. They want the end of the human race.
I mean, that's truly what they want.

Speaker 44 And they don't really even disguise that. So Bannon's a devout Catholic.
I'd probably disagree with him on a few things. Some I wouldn't.

Speaker 44 But I do think that he's very interested in human beings staying human.

Speaker 44 And so do you think he's been given an unfair shake by media? For sure. I mean, listen,

Speaker 44 I think everyone will always be. Right.

Speaker 44 I don't even think it's worth even noting. I mean, listen, everyone everyone is going to be given an unfair shake.
I give

Speaker 44 people an unfair shake. It's what the job of any of us to do, because a fair shake would be like, oh, I'm your friend.
Yeah.

Speaker 44 You know what I mean? Like, because we're all human beings and contain multitudes or whatever. I give Gavin Newsome an unfair shake.

Speaker 44 I just know that the fucking beach, I like to go to the beach. It's all fucking burned.

Speaker 44 So I think we all give each other an unfair shake. He's talking about issues no one's really talking about that are the most interesting things, which is the future of human beings.

Speaker 44 And everyone's avoiding that. In five years, when you, you know, I'm literally taking what he said verbatim, but when people go, there's only so many openings at Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, whatever.

Speaker 44 And do you give your kid the chip and give them the advantage?

Speaker 44 And these are really interesting questions.

Speaker 44 And do you chip, you know, maybe not yourself, maybe he goes, I'm going to ride this out as a human being, but fuck it, my kids are going to have the competitive advantage.

Speaker 44 I mean, they're already kind of doing that with Adderall or whatever. All of that is different.
I mean, it is a massive advantage.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 44 Have you ever taken Adderall? Yeah, yeah. Like as an adult,

Speaker 44 I never took it when I was like younger and like

Speaker 44 struggling to pay attention while taking the fucking SATs and the reading section. Like it's a huge advantage.
So that's the question that I think the big questions that are coming up now.

Speaker 44 Where do we, where do we go? The most interesting

Speaker 44 thing right now is not Russia, the Ukraine. It's not Israel-Palestine.
It is and always has been China. This will be the most interesting do you believe the deep seek

Speaker 44 i don't know i don't know enough about it i know very smart people some of them believe that it's exaggerated didn't they open source it didn't they come out and say hey look at here's all the yeah some of them believe it's slightly exaggerated and some of them believe no it's a it's a sputnik moment like it's a real thing that is we are we are way behind hmm And I don't know.

Speaker 44 It's not enough for us to create the chips here. It might be a pretty stupid question, but like supposedly from what I understand, it's half art, half technology.

Speaker 44 You've got to have a highly specialized training to do it.

Speaker 44 And again, everybody here wants to put their pussy on the street and be famous and be on, you know, it's the, you know, I mean, I think that it's just we haven't steered people into that.

Speaker 44 But there must be some sort of hardware that they have in Taiwan that

Speaker 44 we could do

Speaker 44 some of it. But I mean, it should, it would just be, it's the same kind of question where it's like,

Speaker 44 could they set up Wall Street in another city? Of course.

Speaker 44 But it's just been Wall Street forever. It's like, there's more that goes into it than people realize, right? Like, I think it's part cultural.
It's part economic.

Speaker 44 It's part, you know, there's all kinds of things that go into the development of any industry. Could you move it to another place? Absolutely.
Is Austin going to be Hollywood? Absolutely not.

Speaker 44 Hollywood will either not exist, but it will never be that. Yes.
Will a few comedians get really, really big? Absolutely. And that's great.
You cannot transfer. The movie business will just die.

Speaker 44 It's not going to Texas. Yeah.
Renee Zellweger. Yeah.
Doesn't mean that Texas is a bad place. It means that...

Speaker 44 They'll make some films there like they make them in Atlanta, but it's not going to be an entire city that's revolving around. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 44 And maybe there'll never be another city that revolves around it again.

Speaker 44 But it won't be that. You can't pick up an entire industry and just airdrop it into Bastrup, Texas, and go, good luck.
Yeah. It's not the way it works.
Culture develops over a very long

Speaker 44 time.

Speaker 44 You know what I mean? And I think that like, that's the whole thing. And I think that the China-U.S.
collision course is the most interesting. And you think it's all going to be AI-based?

Speaker 44 I think it's going to be

Speaker 44 fighting for tech supremacy. I think it's going to be satellite supremacy, fighting for the supremacy of satellites.
I think we're blowing our satellites out of the fucking air.

Speaker 44 I think we're blowing theirs out. I think they're blowing ours out.
I think some of those drones were them.

Speaker 44 I have good sources on some of those drones being them. Not all of them.
Some of them being them.

Speaker 44 They did the hot air balloons or whatever. So the spy balloons.
Of course. I think some of those drones were them.
I think

Speaker 44 they are incredibly capable. And I think so are we.
Yeah. Good news is so are we.
We've got our version of the spy balloons. We've got our version of

Speaker 44 the spy balloons. We just don't have an ability to influence culture over there like they do here.
They shut it down. Yeah,

Speaker 44 intelligently so. And they also shut down like the tech, the tech guys, I feel.

Speaker 44 But they weirdly need us.

Speaker 44 So it's interesting. There's a dependency on our consumption.
Yeah. But there's also our dependency on their creation.

Speaker 44 We're all in this bed together. Which is kind of good.
So why we keep acting like there's like a war impending if we both need? Because there probably is.

Speaker 44 Like, you actually think hot war? No.

Speaker 44 I believe China feels that if they've fired a shot, and Banna talks about this, that they will have lost.

Speaker 44 They believe in insidious methods of warfare, infiltrating societies, corporate espionage. It's far more effective.
Far more effective. That could also mean, you know, outages and, you know, like

Speaker 44 electromagnetic pulse attacks, things that are hard to trace to them, things that will just make society more chaotic.

Speaker 44 But I feel like you can even do that more effectively and subversively through the social media stuff. Like all of that.

Speaker 44 Like owning, like I never thought about how powerful like our social media is in disseminating like sexy, sugary American culture throughout the world. Sure.

Speaker 44 And now that like China, let's assume China has control of the algorithm and they can like feed different communities what they need to feed. You can sow more civil unrest.

Speaker 44 To me, that's way more effective than a power outage. Just get people in America hating America.
Well,

Speaker 44 they're absolutely doing that. And I think they'll also look at attempts to hack a grid or whatever.
And I think they're also looking at corporate espionage.

Speaker 44 And they're also, I mean, I think it's all over the place. Okay.
So

Speaker 44 what about this idea? Every American is born, the government puts

Speaker 44 $10,000, $2,000, whatever the fuck it is in the S ⁇ P 500 for them. So basically open up a Vanguard account.
Yeah. Right.

Speaker 44 So now every single American born is immediately invested, and they can't take it out until they're 22 or something like that. It's immediately invested in the success of American industry.
Right.

Speaker 44 So now those like CEOs that are making all that money and that you're furious at and you hate that they're taking money from the regular people, now you're actually almost rooting for them because the better those companies do, the better your portfolio does.

Speaker 44 Now you're invested in the success of America. Yeah.

Speaker 44 I don't hate the idea of people getting some of that. I just want people to beans test it.
What does that mean? Meaning like...

Speaker 44 There's a lot of people who don't need that two grand.

Speaker 44 Even better, like do it for the people who who are less fortunate obviously but like to me the most important thing is this huge swath of people that have kind of been forgotten about post the the question is what would two grand do in that span of time or 10 grand but yeah and by the way i i'm not against that idea at all compound interest i think the average american myself included i'm like financially illiterate i didn't know what compound interest it was and the effect of it i just had money like sitting in a bank account when i'd come back from like a funny bone every weekend i didn't know what to do with it you're you're i think that's a good

Speaker 44 you were smart you you knew real estate. So the second you made money, you were able to.
I was just in that business.

Speaker 44 I wasn't smart, but it was just, it felt like a good place to have money, not even multiply it ridiculously, just have it. And then it could go up.

Speaker 44 But it's not, you know, crypto and all that shit is a way to make real money quick.

Speaker 44 I actually think what crypto is

Speaker 44 on some level is Americans who feel like they've missed out on. massive stock gains, trying to find a way to get that incredible success that they see all these other people get.

Speaker 44 Some of them are having it. And they are.
Some of them are having it. It's more accessible than opening up a Vanguard.
I think that's a good idea. I think investing people, I agree with you.

Speaker 44 I think giving whatever it is, whatever amount of money that is,

Speaker 44 I don't hate that idea. It doesn't have to be giving, but like, how do you...
Well, it would be giving. That's where I would.
You wouldn't want it. That's where I would go with it.
Say again?

Speaker 44 You wouldn't want it back. Yeah, 100%.
It's giving. But, like, I don't know.
I just feel. It's a good idea.
You want patriotism. You want people to love the country.

Speaker 44 Get them invested in the success of the country. If they feel left behind, of course they're going to be resentful when these CEOs are making $50 million a year bonuses.
I think people just, I agree.

Speaker 44 I think people just want

Speaker 44 a reasonable shot at a good life. And I think that's gotten too difficult.
And

Speaker 44 I think that you should do that. I think CEO pay

Speaker 44 is only, it bothers people in the sense that they see themselves and their families falling behind. Yeah.
So if there's a way to make,

Speaker 44 you know,

Speaker 44 people,

Speaker 44 you know, more secure,

Speaker 44 I don't think they're worrying about what a CEO is making unless it's so egregious or whatever the case may be. I think the problem we play,

Speaker 44 we play a game in the financial markets where it's like people bet. their company is going to fail.
They make money off that.

Speaker 44 Like there's all these, this secondary market where you could play a lot of games it's gambling it's not investing gambling it's it's just it's divorced from value and i think a lot of people are going hey man i teach your kid or i put your son or daughter in an ambulance if they're on the road i should be able to live yeah

Speaker 44 because what you're doing which is you know playing games on wall street or whatever it has you know whatever but it's like i'm putting your kid in an ambulance yeah i'm doing something more important i'm in their mind yeah in their mind it's to me no but Of course not.

Speaker 44 I think it's, no, but I think it's like, it's some kind of importance.

Speaker 44 It's some kind of importance. What do you want out of the next? You're incredibly successful.
I mean, where do you go from here? Isn't it a scary place to be?

Speaker 44 You've sold out arenas all over the world. There's nothing left to do.
There's no place for you to go. What do you do now? You're at the pinnacle.
Just be a dad. Is it not a terrifying place to be?

Speaker 44 No. Just be a dad.
Aren't you not terrified? No. This doesn't scare you.
No. Aren't the worst things in the world not getting what you want and getting it? That's a line from the movie Limitless.

Speaker 44 I'm like,

Speaker 44 I don't know. I'm not like, I don't have the same bottomless pit that like some people have.
Oh, we got a lot of bottomless pits. Yeah.
Where it's like, oh, there's pits that have no bottom.

Speaker 44 And you just listen to these people complain. It's like, what are you, what are you complaining about? You fucking, dude, you did everything.
Like, I had specific things I wanted to do.

Speaker 44 So like after doing them, I feel really good. And anything after that, I'm like, oh oh my God, this is like gravy.
I got a kid. I want to spend as much time as I can with a kid.

Speaker 44 I don't want to like abandon the kid. I don't want to go on the road all the fucking time.
Of course not.

Speaker 44 And then, um, and then any other like creative endeavors I come up with, I just want to try to make really cool shit. So, but I need to like live a little bit.

Speaker 44 I can't be on the road all the fucking time. Yeah.
You end up doing like an impression of your act if you just never stop. At least I.
Well, you're also, you're a dad now.

Speaker 44 You want to be a human being a little bit and just and they have more stuff to talk about. And that's very interesting.
Yeah. I think that will make the best.

Speaker 44 Like I think this, not, I'm not trying to like plug but i think this thing that i made was was the best thing i made because

Speaker 44 it was actually something that really impacted me and it was very important to me for sure and i put a lot of time into it and uh i wasn't like oh i need a new hour so i can make money right it was something you wanted to do i really was excited to do it i wanted to do it So hopefully I take a little time off and maybe there's another thing I'm like really excited to do.

Speaker 44 And that is actually also the way Hamas feels. Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 44 I think

Speaker 44 because they love it. I think they do it because they love it.

Speaker 44 Andrew Schultz, the life special on Netflix. Go watch it.
It is great. It is different.
It is awesome. And

Speaker 44 he'll be on the road again. He'll be out there.
You'll see him. Go to the polo bar and catch him.

Speaker 44 Bye. Bye.

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