Ask Your Doctor About Noralta: Thursday, April 17th, 2025

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  1. Nate Bargatze to Host 2025 Emmys (Variety) (20:21)
  2. Jimmy Fallon and RHOBH's Bozoma Saint John Team Up to Find the Next 'Big Idea' on New Reality Show (PEOPLE) (25:37)
  3. Hailee Steinfeld Opens Up About Why She Made the 'Difficult Decision' to Take a 'Break from Music' (PEOPLE) (33:56)
  4. Michelle Trachtenberg's Official Cause of Death Revealed After Gossip Girl Star Died at 39 (PEOPLE) (45:57)
  5. Paige DeSorbo doubles down on claims that Craig Conover was texting other women during their relationship (Page Six) (48:17)


  • Summer House Recap (48:17)


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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

It's your favorite show.

The fast-five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.

Yeah, okay.

Things we did made it to the latter half of the week, like not a big deal.

Ah,

latter half energy.

Happy Turs Day to you.

Happy Thursdays.

It's a beautiful Dairy of Thurs.

It's Gorgina, Vagina, Plastina, Vagina, Plasti here in NYC.

A nice, warm, sunny day.

Ooh, pargelish.

I mean,

it's always sunny in Florida.

But, oh, I actually heard, found some gas out this morning that I've been meaning to text you.

You have hot gas for me?

I do.

Let me text it to you.

You're not going to believe me.

Is it about like...

people we know like personally no it's about a celebrity and i want to share it like hold on oh i'm excited.

I'm so sorry to start the show like this.

No, it's okay.

Don't ever apologize for having a hot goss.

Look what I just sent you.

Oh,

like someone that I know saw him look.

So, yeah, a big celebrity is thinking about moving to Florida.

That was it.

Yeah.

And someone saw him looking.

And I feel like it could move the needle for you to move here.

1,000%.

1,000%.

I heard he's moving down here for the golf, which actually is a great segue because I've been watching Full Swing.

I heard you've been watching Full Swing.

And I so crazy said to Ben, like, how good of a wife am I?

Jackie's watching Full Swing.

She says, you, you will love it.

Let's watch it.

And that's me being generous.

Like, that's a show about your fucking interests.

No.

What did he say?

Well, first of all, we're watching Parenthood.

I hate it so much.

And he loves it.

Oh, my God.

So he thinks I'm just like trying to get him off of, he thinks I'm trying to get him off of Parenthood, which I am.

But like, I think this is an even better option.

And he was like, no, we started it once.

You didn't like it.

Oh, okay.

Gaslight me straight to my fucking face.

I've never seen the show.

Oh, interesting.

Well, the way that they do it is interesting because like every episode follows a different player or two.

And like, so we get to know this person.

And the next episode, it's someone else that we have to meet.

But it's a nice way to get to know like the big names.

I think I'm watching 2022.

So like this is all new for me.

Like I don't know who wins the masters in 2022 and the PGA tour.

And golf has never made sense to me like in terms of the game itself, Carr, Birdie, both of them.

Now I'm familiar.

Now I'm understanding the game of golf, but I'm also understanding how the sport works in terms of like the PGA tour and then the, what are they called?

The big tour.

Do they talk about live golf?

Yes.

So that this season is like when live golf is having their first event.

It's like, who's going to take the money?

The questions that they're asking these players at the press conferences like are crazy.

Like might as well, they might as well be like, would you behead someone and drag them through the street?

Like would you

when the live golf drama was happening in real time, like it was all my husband spoke about.

So I'm pretty well versed on on it.

And it was really crazy.

But Ben was like, fuck it.

Like, take the money.

Like, why should everyone be so beholden to PGA and their like crazy rules?

Whereas like there could be other leagues.

Like, why can't we all play in different leagues?

Yeah, but then it's just like, where's the money coming from?

Like, you're kind of

squashing human rights violations of Saudi Arabia, which is a lot to put on Phil Mickelson, you know?

Right, right.

Phil Mickelson specifically.

And I think that's why this particular masters was sort of kind of crazy because Bryson is one of the like guys who went to live and like took the money.

So at the time, they're like, if people go to live, they will be banned from the PGA tour.

Yes.

Does that still hold?

No.

Because the way I feel about Live Now is like everybody does live.

Like it's not controversial.

No, it's just really controversial.

But like I feel like so many people have endorsed it and it's not like a stain on anyone's record.

And so the people who play live can also do the PGA tour and there's just like more money for everyone.

Now.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

No, it's definitely a crazy thing that happened and the fact that PGA just like was the only game in town and like somebody else like decided to like do stuff and they were being like weenies about it.

Except like Masters and US Open are not PGA.

No, no, it's all a part of the PGA.

Like PGA is like the whole lead.

It's like the NBA.

They have a tour, a PGA tour, where they have like waste management.

Every weekend is a different year.

Yeah, yeah.

Every night, a different town.

She follows me.

You might be asking too many questions now.

But what are the four biggies called?

When you win all four, like Rory did.

What's the name of the game?

What are the four big

golf tournaments?

No, I know it's U.S.

Open, Masters, and two others.

Masters, PGA Championship, U.S.

Open, and the Open Championship, which is often called the British Open.

Okay, but those four are called...

I thought I knew so much.

And what are those four events called?

Not Masters.

Majors.

Those are the majors.

Men's Major Golf Championship.

Those are the majors.

So I feel like the three majors that are in PGA championship, the live players could have played even if they weren't on the PGA tour.

Like they could have still played the Masters.

It's its own thing.

The Masters isn't a part of PGA?

I don't think so.

Okay, let me see.

Wait, hold on.

Let me get back.

Let me get back into my.

Are all four of the major golf championships PGA events?

Question mark?

Great question.

Does ChatGPT ever say that?

Great question.

Not exactly.

While all four are a part of the PGA tour schedule, not all of them are run by the PGA Tour of America.

So the Masters is run by Augusta National Golf Club.

Like, yeah, we know that.

PGA Championship is run by the PGA.

US Open is run by the USGA.

And the Open is run by the RNA.

But they are all

a part of the PGA Tour.

So yes, they are PGA.

Oh, okay.

And I know this is frustrating for those of you who know golf, but I want to say, like, a majority of our listeners don't understand golf like we, like laymen.

They're like laymen like us.

And I feel like all of us starting to understand this together like it will bring together husbands and wives and that's what we do at the toast even though i hate that we're like we're meeting them where they are you know of course i don't say they're taking an interest in molly may's vlogs in summer house yeah like actually my husband loves bravo yeah yeah

i take that back he like it's just annoying

i hate to concede i i do hate to concede but i really am finding pleasure in the sport of golf and also like i do live in florida um

and maybe my sons will take it up and I should know what a bogey is if that's the case.

1000%.

Like, do I cheer for a bogey or do I cheer for a birdie?

You cheer for a birdie.

I know.

Hey.

And you really cheer for a double birdie, whip them titties out and say, Yeah, double birdie.

Yeah, for sure.

That's what I do.

But it's all, it's all great.

And I'm really enjoying it.

And you should definitely watch.

And like, maybe we could sync up so that like I'm not recapping it and then you're recapping it a month later.

Talk to Ben.

Seriously, talk to Ben.

I will talk to Ben.

So, like, insane.

And even today, like,

he was like, I was like, woke up in a really bad mood.

I didn't sleep good.

And he was like,

you want to walk?

He's like, you want me to walk you to work?

I was like, you know what?

Yeah.

I find my two block walk to work becoming longer each day.

Like, I just can't do it.

It's time for me to start working from home.

And so he gets to the door and he forgets something and he's walking back in.

And I said, fuck it, I'm leaving.

And I get in the elevator.

And I'm like halfway through my walk when I hear Ben sprinting down the street.

I'm like, honestly, he's so sweet.

Like I left and he still wanted to walk me to work and he has his like big shopping bag with him.

And I'm like, are you going somewhere?

He's like, no, yesterday you told me you didn't have any Spritz cans at your studio.

I'm like, oh,

so you don't want to walk me to work.

You wanted to facilitate, you wanted to be the messenger delivering your Spritz Society cans.

Spritz Society, available everywhere.

Yeah, they actually are today's lead sponsor.

We'll get into it in a little bit late, a little bit later.

That's exciting.

It's so funny that you have no cans in your huge studio when I am seriously in a and I have probably 12 boxes of spritz in here from the years.

And that's just your sweeper like nature because you would never stand for what I've put up with.

But I have so much spritz in here and I need to.

I think you need a little bit more of my sweeper energy and I need a little bit more of your,

it's going to be okay.

Energy.

No, I don't, because I don't want to start collecting things, but like it is okay to have stuff.

Yeah, it is.

I feel like you're going to see that when you have a baby.

And so I'm not going to push you on it.

I'm just going to let nature run its course.

Speaking of having a baby,

I'm going to the doctor.

I feel really stupid because I think like I actually, I don't even know.

I just feel like the baby has slipped.

Like, I just feel it.

Like, maybe because I want the baby to have slipped.

No, but it's not even that.

I just want it.

So I feel like if I

manifested it.

So I told Dr.

Fox, I'm like, I think the baby slipped.

He's like, okay, we'll find out your next sonogram.

And I said, yeah, about that.

I'm not going to be able to wait that long.

Because I'm like running around town doing boxobustion doing physical therapy doing acupuncture like I just kind of need to know if it's working because I can stop if it is um so I'll be going in today so tune into tomorrow's episode to find out if turdy's baby is flipped and are you feeling kicks in different places yes but I'm not feeling kicks that's the thing I'm feeling like sweeping movements do you know what I mean like I know a kick so you're feeling flips

Flips is that what it is?

I mean, that's what sweeping movements?

No, and it's like huge, like waves of movement.

Like a tumble.

Yeah, and it's not like people are like well are you feeling kicks or punches I'm like well I'm not feeling either I'm feeling like there's something like a rodent in my stomach like crawling around that's what it feels like lols and if I read one more fucking reddit I need to stop like but I'm always just like searching like how would I know if my baby is flat

Everybody has different experience.

Someone was like, I had no idea.

And then someone was like, oh my God, I was cooking dinner and I felt like I gave birth.

So I can't.

There's such not reliable information out there.

Yes.

And at a certain point, you have to set it all down.

And I do, I do.

Yeah, I do.

I do.

That's what I did yesterday.

I went to the nail salon for four hours.

I now realize, I now realize like why my whole life, like every time I go to the nail salon, there's like five pregnant women there, you know?

What else is there to do?

Everyone's getting their feet rubbed.

Hopefully, hoping that they like hit that ankle button that will put them into labor.

The literally, the sometimes like you're so uncomfortable, the only thing you can do is get a pedicure.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

And I just like let this woman, I let her take care of me for hours.

I kept adding things.

So like, I got a pedicure.

And then, of course, I had to do a leg and a foot rub.

And I fell asleep in the chair.

It was amazing.

And then I went for an actual manicure.

So I got my manicure.

And then it just didn't feel like enough.

So I had her rub my back.

I was there for literally the entire afternoon and had an amazing time.

That's so great.

You should go to like a spa.

No, I know, but like something about the casual nature

of it's non-committal.

I have to take my pants off.

Like it's except I actually saw the craziest thing.

This guy comes in with a stroller, like and he had a newborn.

And I'm like, oh, that's nice.

He's taking care.

And he's like, I I want to get my back rubbed.

And I'm like, well, you have a baby with you, like an actual baby.

Like, you can't get your back rubbed.

And he was like, yeah, he literally, this is something only a man could do.

He like was moving furniture in the nail salon.

He's like, put me in this chair.

I have to give this baby a bottle, but I want my neck and my back rubbed.

They got a step stool for the masseuse.

Like they rearranged the entire salon for this man to give his baby a bottle while also getting his neck rubbed for an hour.

Like he was sitting in the middle of the salon.

I actually really respected it.

And I could see that being Ben as a father, because Ben loves getting his back rubbed.

But it's just something like a woman would never do.

It's like, oh, well, I can't get a massage.

I have to feed my baby.

Right.

Well, take notes.

Take up space.

Jackie, he was taking up a lot of space.

Like, we could learn everything around.

Yes.

Yeah.

And he's watching the baby.

Mom's got a break.

Yeah, no, it was very inspiring.

I thought he was going to like leave the baby in the stroller and like hold on to the stroller while he sits in the chair.

That's what I was thinking.

That's not the greatest.

I like that.

No, especially because if the baby cries, you're going to have to get up out of that chair.

Yeah.

And also you don't have eyes on the baby.

No, so he sat in in a regular chair baby was in his arms with a bottle and this lady was like seriously towering over him on a ladder rubbing his back parjalish it was so smart yeah

you should have taken a picture for ben i i meant to tell him but i didn't want to give him any ideas because like literally i would never see him he would be at the salon the entire time with the baby babysitting

thumbs up

How many stories today?

Oh, you know what?

They're like RBG, for sure, RBG, but like came together actually really quickly.

So it's the stories, you know?

RBG, random but good, yeah, yeah, you knew that.

We watched Summer House, right?

We did watch Summer House, which I look forward to recapping.

Me too.

I actually have some very strong feelings about two characters in particular.

Who?

Yes.

What happened?

Jesse Solomon.

Yes.

Always.

He elicits a lot of strong feelings from me.

Like, really, really positive, like, menshi warmth.

Like, I love this man.

And then really, really negative, like, deep hatred.

Bombing, toxic.

So,

like,

grow up.

Yeah.

He's my number one for sure.

Okay.

Number two.

Sierra.

Yes.

I just know my coach.

You do.

And we also talked about Summerhouse.

Like, we were both watching it.

We were texting.

Yeah.

Okay.

So that's why.

But yeah, no, you knew, you know.

No, but we need to talk about Jesse.

So that.

No, you knew.

You knew.

Yeah, it's true.

Well, I look forward to recapping that.

Same.

And I think we can get into the stories, right?

Me too.

I think it's totally fine.

I see my clock.

I can see my clock now.

Oh, you're good.

Okay.

We're staying on pace today.

Except the thing is, if I hadn't seen my clock, I would have assumed that we've been really short in the pre-fast five banter.

Right.

And I would have kept going.

And then we would have had like a really parchy-long banter.

And that's how you guys have been getting those nalafis because I've been flying blind here.

No, and I love the nalafies, but I have to say, like, I know my body.

And like at some point, I crap out.

And like, I want to be able to, even like how I couldn't finish your toasters.

Like, I want to be able to finish the episode.

So you having your clock, just keeping us, you know,

some narafis.

Yesterday was an hour 20.

You're not going to see those types of numbers up there again.

It's just hard putting a light numbers to sit in one position and like be normal for that long.

So I just want to, I'm going to get through everything.

I'm not rushing, but just, you know, I can't be making a whole day of it.

I understand.

I understand.

Narafi.

Regular.

Neuroph.

Regular, but longer than average.

Longer than the others.

Right.

Nice, regular, but longer than average episode.

What is that?

Oh, God.

Nice, regular.

I'll write it down.

Hold on.

Oh, no, it's one.

Neuraf.

Nice regular one.

My brain is broken.

Regular one longer than the average.

Nerlata.

Nerlata.

That sounds like a medication.

Which, by the way, Nurtech OTD.

This show is a medication.

So Nerlata.

I got a heartache medication.

Okay, sorry.

It's actually Neuralta.

which really sounds like a medication.

Claudia, we are giving you a dose of Nuralta today.

It cures depression, anxiety, boredom, anxiety.

And we don't have the side effects that all these other drugs have, like suicidal thoughts.

Like, no, no, no, joy.

Joy, like, period.

Period.

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Beautifully done.

If I'm not going to be.

I'm a beautiful girl.

Or at least I was.

You are a beautiful woman.

I agree.

Our first story.

I'm so glad you brought that up.

I'm so glad that we are in agreement.

It's so good to be agreeable.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Our first story, some hosting news.

Nate Bargatesy will host the 2025 Emmys.

So celebrated stand-up comedian Nate Bargatesy is set to host the Emmys.

Variety has learned.

The telecast will air live from the Peacock Theater in LA on Sunday, September 14th.

Always confusing that the Emmys, which are part of the GOT variety, like take place at a completely different time time than the rest of the award shows, you know, like they're literally I don't know if I ever like was putting that together.

No, they're literally in the summer.

It's so weird.

But I didn't know that.

September 14th on CBS and streaming live on Paramount Plus.

Nate Bargatesy, thoughts?

I think it's, oh my God, I think it's a

good

selection.

I think it,

the thing is, I know Nate Bargatesy, like culturally, like I've never heard this man stand up.

I think, but he comes from like, he's like the elk of like a digital podcaster.

He got his real cult like fan base from the internet so podcaster comedian does he have a podcast comedian excuse me but he like hangs out with all those podcaster comedians i loop him in with them and i'm always saying i loop him in with um shane gillis yeah and i'm always saying like you should choose those guys and it's mostly guys yes for these gigs so i really like this even though like you i never heard a joke of his like his reputation precedes him I do know that like a fun fact about him is that he's a bit of a clean comic.

Like he doesn't even curse.

So that will be interesting because I don't think that's usually the elk of hosts.

Even though I think most recently like Conan, who's not clean, but a little bit more family friendly, I feel like that really didn't help him.

What did he host?

The Oscars, right?

Right.

But I think Nate can do it.

Like every time Nate does something and gets selected for like something big, people are so excited about it.

Like he hosted SNL and I think he's about to host again.

His fans are freaking like everyone loves it.

So I think this is actually a very good choice.

And it's out of the Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy category.

Yeah, he had Nate Bargatesy's Nashville Christmas on CBS.

Oh, cute.

Which sounds good like a good idea.

I think it went well from the Grand Ole Opry.

That sounds fun.

Yeah.

I think this is a really good choice and a safe bet and hopefully opens the door for more funny comedians to host award shows.

Agreed.

And funny comedians who are the elk of, you know, internet folk, even though he's not really internet.

The elk of renegades.

Yes, I loop him in with that group of men.

Group of men.

Like he might be in the group chat that Andrew Schultz was telling us about, you know?

Yeah,

he might be.

But like, who is this guy?

Let's get real.

I know, does he even have a podcast?

Like, does he like, I'm going to look, like, I've heard his name before, but why hasn't his comedy reached me whatsoever?

Oh, yeah, he does have a podcast.

It's called Nate Land.

They released an episode one day ago.

So, um, okay, I've not heard of it.

Me neither.

I don't think his podcast is actually very big.

Yeah, but but it's always fun to have a podcast, like if you're a funny person, and it's a it's low lift if you have stuff to say.

Agreed.

No, I think that

he's digital.

Like I like saying his name.

Nate Bargates.

Bargés.

And it looks like something I wouldn't be able to pronounce, but like I crush it.

We think.

Like if I hadn't heard it.

No, I've like heard people say his name because I don't even know how I would pronounce that.

Like Bargadze.

His stand-up specials are really popular.

That's what I think catapulted him to like another tier.

His last couple of months have all been on Netflix and they've been like enormously popular.

Great.

And I think you would, I think you would love it.

Congrats, Nate.

Congrats, Nate.

You did it.

Congrats, grads.

Even though this is like a job that I think people like, you obviously want to book it.

It's a huge opportunity.

But when it comes to like actually doing it, it's like, ugh.

Yeah.

But it's a major step.

Huge, huge, huge.

Maybe, maybe it'll be so big we'll find out like who he is, you know?

See his chops.

I don't typically watch the MEs just because during the summer, i just am not turning on the awesome no it it depends where i am like physically emotionally mentally and i don't watch a lot of the television like i don't really watch a lot of this stuff i feel like the emmys

come come and go when give me a date let me see like where's my life oh you said summer that's still summer for six more days

Okay, September 14th, like it's after Labor Day.

We're all back

at work.

Like, I might watch it.

Okay.

I thought you were saying like June.

Oh, you see, you think summer is June.

You said early summer.

I didn't say early.

And then it also, it also reminded me that we spent last summer watching the Olympics and how much fun that was and that we're not going to have that this summer.

Not to be like negative, just it reminded me.

We'll have something.

Yeah.

We need to make something our thing this summer.

Yeah.

We'll probably watch a lot of TV because we'll just be like

unemployed.

Literally maternity breaks.

Where at least do you watch a lot of TV on maternity leave?

Yes.

You'll get in, like you have to get find like your show, like your postpartum show.

Well, I'm really struggling struggling finding like a show now so i'm worried it's it's better postpartum because like you need something like more mindless like right now you're really looking for great content

but then like i mean it's time to watch molly may and tommy on love island oh wow that was like the best experience for me like you need somebody with a lot of hours oh you're gonna log a lot of hours yeah okay yeah

Are you ready for our next story?

A little more TV news because Jimmy Fallon and Bose are

up to find the next big idea on a new reality show.

So Jimmy Fallon and Real House as a Beverly Hills star, Bose St.

John are coming together to find the next big idea on the new reality competition series on brand with Jimmy Fallon.

So NBC announced that the new show has been officially greenlit and will follow Jimmy as he starts a premier marketing agency and fills it with the most creative, clear, and competitive go-getters he can find.

He said, I love branding.

I love marketing.

I love the world of advertising.

I think there are a lot of people out there who do as well.

This show lets the audience and our contestants get a peek behind the curtain of of how campaigns for some of the biggest brands come together and what goes into making them it's exciting wait that actually sounds like a really cute concept for a show it's giving like house of dvf or whatever but like house of chicken

no but i guess they're going to be working for different brands like yeah but they're going to campaign for i like this idea for a show i i don't understand how jimmy fallon like applies here aside from the fact that he has a love of marketing Yeah, who doesn't have a love of marketing?

Like,

yeah, I guess I get, well, Bose is like a seasoned.

Oh, yeah, so she's going to be the agency's chief marketing officer.

She will mentor the creatives and evaluate their work, which is great because she has an extensive history as Tim Gunn.

She's a CMO.

Yeah.

She's Tim Gunn, right?

And impartial.

She's a gold.

No, I love her getting opportunities, like obsessed with her all the roles.

But in terms of like the framework of this show, I see her very much as like a neutral sort of kind of almost like mental RuPaul's like a judge, like a Tim Gunn.

Yeah, the mentor.

Yeah, the mentor.

Very Patricia Altschul.

Patricia Altschul.

Yeah.

I hear you, and I concur like what Jimmy's role on the show is and his connection to marketing.

But maybe it's just a gig, you know?

Yeah.

Each episode will see the agency creatives work with a major brand in need of big ideas for a massive high-priority campaign from creating earworm jingles and unbelievable activations to producing the most quotable commercials and mud tap merchandise.

Yeah, this sounds like a good show.

It does sound exactly like Project Runway.

Or a little bit like The Apprentice.

Are the people

when I hear Jingle?

I'm thinking of of Joe.

Yeah.

Splat.

Are the contestants like just like marketers?

I think they are professional marketers.

Olivia should apply.

By the way, Olivia should apply.

Girl Boss Town should apply.

Of course, but I feel like she wouldn't be a contestant.

Like, why?

Like, she would crush.

She would win.

Unless all of the contestants like are the elk of Girl Boss.

Right, right, right.

Are they entry-level?

Like, who are these people?

People with a passion for marketing who maybe haven't had their big break yet.

Hmm.

That's very niche.

No, but I'm glad because, like, everybody does marketing.

It's like never been the sexiest.

They've never had their moment.

But, like, maybe, and people who do marketing, like, maybe like your parents don't understand what you're doing.

Like, now they can watch the show and see the podcast.

It's tall.

It's probably for girls who work in marketing, what nobody wants this was for girls who podcast.

It's true.

And it's going to be like the next madman, I think.

Wow.

Okay.

Really putting a spotlight.

What platform?

The import of the the advertising agency.

Peacock.

Well, it's NBC.

So.

Peacock, probably.

NBC.

Oh, oh, wow.

A big cable show.

Right.

Some of the brands that would be featured include Captain Morgan, Duncan, KitchenAid, Marshalls, Pillsbury.

No, so let me tell you, if I don't exist,

I would be a great contestant for this show.

No, and the show itself is kind of brilliant because.

Yeah, actually, I don't agree with you.

You don't think I would be so good on this show?

I have so many great ideas for marketing and jingles.

Like, I just, I'm always really?

I don't know that about you.

Like,

what are you talking about?

What do you mean?

Like, I'm, I have ideas up the wazoo.

Yeah, about, like, campaigns?

For sure.

I could direct it towards campaigns.

Okay.

Well, you haven't in the past.

Like, why would I think that?

Because, like, we don't do campaigns.

Well, maybe we should.

Like, in my previous jobs that I held, like, I was a marketer.

A social media marketer.

A social media marketer.

Yeah, I you know who else would be good for this?

Okay, fine.

You don't think I would be good for it?

Just say it.

I don't think you would be bad at it.

I think if you were put in this show, like you would rise to the occasion.

But I wouldn't think of you as like, oh, Jackie has to go on this show.

No, but like KitchenAid is coming and like we need to create like a campaign and images and a commercial and who's like going to be the fit.

Like I would be amazing.

Yeah, because you just chose the brand that like you use and align with the most.

Like Jackie Duncan.

I can do dunkin I love their breakfast wraps

I would put a spotlight on the breakfast wraps because I think they're underrated and I would

do a campaign

stream for dunk I would do a campaign to bring back their chocolate chip cookies oh for day I'm sure you know who else would be good for this show but feel free to disagree with me again my husband

okay your husband should apply for this show

So when I say that when I think of a type of person, yes, your husband would be good.

I don't think think of you.

I think of your husband.

But if you were cast on the show, I don't think you would be the first out.

I think you would make it quite far.

Thank you.

Yeah, maybe I wouldn't be the winner, but I think

I could hold my own here.

Your husband literally should apply for this show.

It's so him.

He has so many great ideas.

Like he's just like, he's the ideas guy.

He's jingling all the way home.

Jingle all the way.

I love that.

Well, I will watch this show.

I kind of would too.

It is giving, you know, the big shot with Bethany.

Agreed.

It is.

Like, people just like, you're not winning.

Like, America's extra model, you're going to become famous.

Like, if you win this competition, like, all you get is a job.

Yeah, that's true.

But, like, it does really, the template is more so like The Apprentice, which is also what Bethany's was.

And, like, that was the biggest show on TV.

People, like, and it was a really good show.

So, I think there's, we need more of that.

Agreed.

And bringing Bows in is sort of.

icing on the cake.

Inspired.

Inspired.

Yeah.

So.

Oh, and I'm sorry.

And what I was going to say is the show in in and of itself.

I'm so down.

The show, in and of itself, is quite brilliant because them having brands come on every episode, the brand has to pay to be featured as the lead, whatever.

So the show, in and of itself, is successful before it even, if nobody watches it, the show is successful.

Yeah, but also the person who wins could maybe like get money to like start their own shop.

Agency.

And then whoever watched the show, like if I saw, if the person who won like was amazing and we ever needed a marketing agency, like I would reach out to that person.

Yes.

You know what?

Cause I often wonder, I I only ever watched Celebrity Apprentice, obviously, because I'm normal.

And I only watched a season with Joan Rivers because I'm also normal.

But I know that there was a show with regular, actual, successful business people.

Julian,

Bill Rancic, Julian Rancic's husband, is like one of the most well-known winners.

And he went on to do, you know, they're very successful.

But like at what?

Business.

But what kind of business are you in?

Right.

That's what the show should be called.

But on-brand is good.

Yeah.

On-brand is on brand.

But But it should have been what kind of business y'all in?

Marketing.

Okay.

Sure.

I like this show a lot, and I probably would have clowned on it before they said Bose was involved.

Yeah, if it wasn't.

Manelm, it's amazing.

Yeah, agreed.

It should have been Don Draper.

1,000% John Hamm should host it.

I feel like he's showing up for everything these days.

I agree.

And he's kind of giving

Don Draper.

He's no, he's giving me like a little overexposed.

He's doing too much.

But he's really goofy and proud.

But when you're Don Draper, like he's ruining the mystique of John Draper.

I know.

He's like doing too many projects.

Like Landman, that Apple TV show.

And he's also like the Reverend from Kimmy Schmidt.

Yeah, he's just like doing too much.

Maybe he has like a

like he lives an expensive life, you know?

Like he just needs to keep working.

Maybe he's like a lot of kids or something.

Yeah, he's got expensive hobbies.

Correct.

Maybe he collects Birkenbags.

Maybe.

Our next story, Haley Seinfeld is opening up about why she made the difficult decision to take a break from music.

I know this is what I'm saying.

Just to be clear, Haley Steinfeld.

Haley Steinfeld, yeah.

She's not related to Jerry.

Drop the tea.

Okay.

Haley is dipping her toes back into the music world and opening up about why she left in the first place.

And left us seriously gagged wanting more.

Yeah.

She stars in the upcoming action thriller Sinners and she also sang a song for its soundtrack called Dangerous.

And it marks her first release since 2023.

and she's excited about it, to say the least.

She said, I had taken a break from music, which was a very difficult decision to make, but I wanted to focus on my acting, and I was happy to be doing that.

It goes without saying, but music is a love of mine and a huge passion, and something that has played a very strong role in my life in many more ways than one.

And having had the opportunity to make music through the years of my own is something I will never take for granted.

Yeah, like she is the definition of a multi-hyphen, and she's like so good at everything that she just had to choose one and she chose acting which i understand but like she was an amazing pop star she was well on her way to becoming huge she was opening now obviously opening for katy perry doesn't mean as much now as it was once did but on the prism world tour like it was huge yeah or maybe it was wonder no it was prism um

and like She was global.

She was really on her way.

Like when you think of how short-lived her music career was, but how many hits she had, like, it's actually really impressive.

Yeah, definitely.

So, but she chose acting.

She must have liked it like a little bit more.

And she's great at it too.

Yeah.

And she's been acting since she was eight.

True grit.

That's her thing.

Yeah.

She came on the scene being like that young swirly at the Oscars.

Right.

And if she was being a pop star, like maybe the day that she met Josh Allen in her pop star parallel life, like she would have been out of town that day and not met Josh Allen.

So I would say like all of her decisions have been the right ones because they led her to this place in her life.

It's the butterfly effect.

Like if you had continued being a pop star, like what would we make of Josh Allen?

Josh Allen might be

elsewhere and not with Haley.

And maybe she'd be the next Sabina.

Josh Allen could be dead.

Maybe she'd be the next Sabrina, but then she's dating Barry Kyogen.

It's not the same thing.

No, it's not.

So close.

I think she's made the right decision for Haley's self, even though, like, we suffer.

We suffer.

We suffered at the time.

Especially because...

What do you think is Haley Seinfeld's best song?

I love May.

Okay, the song Love Myself

by Haley Seinfeld is one of the best pop songs of the last century.

But just don't listen to the lyrics too close because you'll realize it's a song about masturbation.

But it's double entendre.

So, like, on the surface, it's just about loving yourself.

Okay, she has so many.

Ready?

I didn't know that I was starving till I tasted you.

Okay.

In Capital Lettuce.

Oh, that's really good.

That's a good one.

Let me go with a lesso.

I mean, like, I know it, but it's not coming to mind.

Oh, classic, yeah.

In the ways I couldn't.

Okay, love myself.

Oh, Jackie.

Most girls

are smart and strong and beautiful.

Coast with Anderson Pack.

That's the new one.

Interesting.

And no, and dangerous from sinners.

Got it.

Got it.

Rock bottom.

I mean, now we're getting two songs I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But.

No,

a discography, she can and should be proud proud of.

Well, just pitch perfect was like a perfect blend of her two loves, a blockbuster hit, and dancing and singing.

And singing.

So maybe, maybe the lesson here is we need a pitch perfect for.

Maybe the lesson here is trust Haley.

Trust Haley.

I agree.

And I do trust Haley.

I'm not even mad at her, like in the way that people are mad at Rihanna for choosing makeup over music.

Yeah.

I'm just sort of like sad for myself.

Yeah, same.

But the girlies have stepped it up in her absence.

Oh my God.

we are fed.

We are fine.

We're fine.

So, as long as Haley's happy, I'm happy.

And I want her to know, like, when she does want to come back in any capacity, like, I'm sad.

I'm ready.

I will.

Dangerous from the new action thriller, Sinners.

That's also a great way to blend your two loves.

Like, accept roles where they let you write original music for the soundtrack.

I love that.

She should be in Hunger Games.

Like, the Hunger Games soundtrack is always like a big

thing.

Yeah.

You say the new Hunger Games.

No, but it's so true.

You and I will be safe

and

what about are you?

Are you?

Oh, are you?

Coming to the tree.

The tree.

They strange.

And then Olivia Rodrigo just had a big song.

Strange.

Strange.

That is so creepy.

No stranger would it be.

That song was a cultural reset.

That song was on par with.

Uh-huh.

I got my ticket for the long way round.

Nobody was influenced.

Nobody was more influenced by that

than us.

Like, oh my God, we were slapping those cups all fucking day long.

And the fun thing was, like, we already knew the cup

melody.

Cause if you went to camp, you knew that cup little jingle.

But everybody thought it was like original to Panakendrick.

No, no, bitch.

We were doing that at camp like everybody knew red solo cop flip it over

like please with um are you so are you

showing up the command i'm crying i don't know why

strange things have happened

no it's so fucking good tj earwoom could never

would never i dare him actually i just lost all my stories from the banging that's good from the banging on the ipad no i found it to haley seinfeld queenielish

queen elish She'll be my queenie of the week.

Do you think they're able to originate like who came up with that cup beat thing?

No.

Did they have to pay someone?

No, that's like.

Folklore.

Folklore.

And not that Taylor Swiss sense.

I mean, the original definition of the word.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, actually, I don't know if you saw the girl who invented the Apple Dance.

So I guess she copyrighted her dance, which she should.

Okay.

And

Charlie XCS is doing something with Fortnite and Fortnite was working with her to license the dance.

and like they didn't come to an agreement or whatever.

And then they just used the dance.

So she's suing them now.

Interesting.

That's nice if like she's going to get paid by Fortnite.

But like what does it mean for the regular person?

Do you know what I mean?

Like if so if you want to do the dance on TikTok like and it's copyrighted, what does that mean?

So I happen to see her all over my TikTok and she's very like,

she has her armpits grown out.

Like she's very hippie.

So she's not suing any individual.

Like that's not her.

But then like people found out she's like low-key really rich.

Her family has like this huge house in Hawaii, but she's she's like all about like, she's, she's kind of like a communist, you know, like a.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And everybody's, she's like taking a vlog, like going to Hawaii.

And people are like, wait, why are you in Hawaii?

Because you know, you're not supposed to visit Hawaii if you're not from Hawaii.

It's like bad.

Well, she's like, well, me and my family have a house here.

So like we're not,

you know, right.

Right.

And then they were like, wait, your family has a house here.

And then people found out she's like really rich.

Damn.

Excuse me.

Which makes sense as to why she was able to like secure legal lawyer up.

Lawyer up copyrights to Fortnite.

But she's always, remember when they nominated her for a VMA and didn't invite her?

And she's like, always making news.

She's like, she demands respect for creating this dance.

And I actually really respect it.

By the way, like, no, I don't know any of these things.

We talked about it on the toast.

Yes, we did.

People make dances every day on the talk.

Yes, but hers went super viral and she got nominated for a VMA.

Her dance, it was like best dance.

They came up with like some category.

And they didn't even invite her.

Well, I saw Kylie learning it at Coachella.

Did you see that?

Of course I did.

She almost lost her titties.

By Gabriette.

And Alex Kosani.

Fashion Girlies.

I know Gabriette.

Oh, I know Alex.

Of course.

Don't push me.

I know Gabriette, of course, as it pertains to the Real House Rise of Beverly Hills of it all.

Because she looks like Amelia?

Well, they say Amelia actually looks like Gabriette, and then like Amelia copies everything Gabriette does.

But then Amelia and Gabriette just did a campaign together.

It was kind of like Fendi.

It was, I forget what it was for, but it was very much like, you know, calling off the dogs.

Like, we are good.

Well, is it one of those campaigns where they have their heads to heads and they look like that?

That was Fendi that did that.

They did it with Narcissa.

They look like twins.

like twins yeah they are finding like doppelgangers but it isn't hard because everyone looks alike these days no and especially like if you've been following like Amelia Gray wasn't born this way like she made herself look like

yeah Gabriette yeah Gabriette I like saying that too I think Gabriette should date Nate Bargatesy so she could be Gabriette Barghatze

I think that Nate Barghatzi like has a family Cool, cool.

So maybe like his son if he's grown.

Yeah, I think his son is like three.

Cool, cool, cool.

So you're shipping her with a three-year-old.

I said, if he's grown.

Go, go, go.

Are you waiting for our fourth story?

No, I don't think that I am, right?

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Our next story.

Michelle Trachtenberg's official cause of death has been revealed after she died at the age of 39.

So the New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner confirmed to People magazine on Wednesday that the actress's sudden death was a result of complications of diabetes mellitus.

The manner of death was ruled as natural.

The spokesperson said the amended determination was made following review of toxicology testing results.

According to the spokesperson, toxicology testing can be done without an autopsy.

So I remember like when this happened, it happened at the same time like around Gene Hackman and they were both like so suspicious and so sad and so weird.

So for us to have gotten clarity on both of those things, they're both so sad.

Yeah.

Like she just was, what, a 35-year-old girl who dies of natural causes?

Like that's not how the world is supposed to work.

Right.

Right.

To die suddenly.

When you're 39.

Right.

Really, really sad.

Um,

I don't know what diabetes mellitus is.

So me neither.

How that differentiates, but

just terrible.

No, seriously, like uncool.

Yeah.

I'm wishing like her family well.

She was really so young and so beautiful.

Yeah, so talented.

And like so ingrained in culture and everything.

Culture, especially for people our age.

Yes, she did not show up for work.

When she showed up for work, she showed up for work.

Yeah, and just everything that she did like became iconic because she was in it.

Like maybe Ice Crime just was a bad movie.

Anyone ever consider that?

But it wasn't.

Okay, it wasn't.

And Kim Katrina.

And Harriet the Spy.

And Julian.

Harriet the Spy.

What's my girl name?

No, and Georgina.

Juliet.

Oh, Julianne F.

No, Hayden Panettier.

But she's Juliette from Nashville.

Juliette in Nashville, yeah.

Hence the confusion.

Yeah.

And the

little jumping shrimp.

The little jumping shrimp.

Yes, Ice Princess is the best fucking movie.

It is.

Okay, okay.

So that passes muster.

Yeah, yeah, no.

But Harriet the Spy, was she worth her salt?

No, Michelle.

She was a terrible spy.

Michelle made her great.

Georgina, like, nobody has ever acted better.

Like, they should study her in acting school.

It's true.

So it's just a really sad, sad story, especially for like millennial swirlies.

Yeah.

Our fifth and vital story will lead into our TV recap.

If that sounds good to you, because...

So it sounds like, it sounds like two birds, one stone.

Two birds, one turd.

Two birds.

Paige Asorbo is doubling down on her claims that Craig was texting other women during their relationship.

Oh, oh my God.

Wait, I didn't see this.

Yes.

So she doubled down on the claims that he was texting other women because we saw a preview for the end of the season.

We haven't watched this yet where she, he's not defending the people who are calling her a cheater in their breakup.

And she said on the show that we haven't seen yet, she said, you're going to let people say that I'm a cheater.

I caught you texting two bitches in the course of our relationship.

So of course that sent the world into a frenzy.

And we're just sort of waiting to see what that was.

But she, and of course he maintains that like he never.

what stepped out.

So now that she's talking on what platform she gave it after you to Vulture.

And she said, as part of the interview she said i don't know honestly i don't know if it was platonic or anything more but there were multiple times in our relationship where i gave him so much grace like should i have broken up with him a year and a half ago when i saw him texting hearts to a girl probably but again i loved him and i wanted to marry him

okay so this is i need more comments

i'm sorry

No, Ben, you're sending hearts to a girl.

Go to jail.

Like, I was like, go to jail.

I need to see the girl.

I need to know more.

I need to see the girl.

Oh, who's the girl?

Yeah.

I need to know more, but like, but let me say this, Paige.

Does it all look good?

Yikes.

Yeah.

No, what does she look like, first of all?

Like, is she single?

Because maybe.

Is she threatening?

Like, you know what I mean?

There are girls that are threats, and then there are girls that are just

ladies.

Was it your aunt?

Like you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did he send you a heart?

Oh my God.

Imagine she's talking about me.

And yeah, you're like an old married lady.

Like,

right, right.

Like,

am I harmful?

Do I pose a threat?

Yeah.

So we're going to need more information.

I hope we're going to get more information when that clip does air, but we

are learning a lot about their relationship in Summerhouse, which aired last night.

More the wheels are coming off.

Like, I'm sure everybody around her, who she's like actually

opening up to, like, Sierra, like, the breakup was the least shocking thing ever.

Like to us, it was.

But it's really interesting.

And it was like sad to hear her say that like so much of like public fallout and public perception like stops her from making choices.

Yeah.

Um, and like she's just afraid of what people will say, which is like the worst thing when you feel like you can't make the best decision for your own life because of like the fans.

Yeah, I definitely think that might have delayed the breakup.

And I think that happens a lot of times with couples, like especially people from The Bachelor, where like so many people are invested in your relationship and like you almost don't want to let them down.

But I also think there's like something

empowering when so many people are rooting for you.

Like it might.

It's not that you don't want to let them down.

That's one thing, but another where you start to like see yourself through their eyes and you're like, no, it is great.

Like we are Craig and Page.

And I feel like it might give the relationship a little bit of longer legs but in a nice way like because yeah they're like championing you and feel chill to be loved yeah to be like when everyone was telling your relationship was shit the moment you feel realize it's shit like you're like uh get me out of here And I could really like sense the anxiety that Paige was having in the bed, scrolling.

And then when she moved beds.

And I'm glad that she opened up to Sierra.

But I was like, and this is what I was talking about at the beginning of the show.

Like, I think that Sierra like starting to cry before Paige even cried, just being like, I feel like you're really anxious.

And then, like, just, she kind of took on Paige's

emotions the entire episode.

Yes.

Yes.

Like, Paige was mad at Imruel, and then Sierra goes outside and curses him out as if she's the one who was kept up all night and she wasn't.

No, but she wasn't, because he's had sex all season.

And it, it's never been an issue, unless it has been.

We just didn't see.

But like, it seems like in their room, they don't hear Emruel.

And then the room that they're upstairs, who's the room that Paige went to, she heard Emrule.

Right.

She was in.

Oh, yeah.

He's downstairs.

He's in, like, off the kitchen.

Right.

So, like, I felt like her behavior this episode was very strange, um, only as it pertained to Paige.

Like, I feel like Paige is going through a lot, and I could sense that from her.

Like, she was almost giving me anxiety, like, yeah, with her, like, scrolling, and I'm like, get off your phone.

Yeah.

And, and then, like, Imroll keeping her up.

Like, I understand why she was so bad.

Yeah.

And also, I had to say, like, after a long day of day drinking, like, there's actually no, and you have, or you're having anxiety in your life already.

And then it's heightened by the drinking, and you can't sleep because of the, I like, I could feel that.

it's a recipe for hell those are the worst hours 1000% so while I did feel like the only person who had like a legitimate gripe with Imroll was Paige I felt like over they all do though no but he's not being like a good

I know I feel conflicted like he's not being a good housemate or whatever but like when I think about the the show like

I love this cast.

They lay in bed all day.

Like, someone's got to go out.

Bring her home.

Girls hit.

He's going out.

Like, that's what they need to do.

What he's doing is not contributing to the show whatsoever.

We don't even see the girls he's bringing home.

We don't even hear from them.

He's literally like a boarder renting a room and his escapades contribute nothing to the show.

And they also take away from the show because now no, like...

Before when he came in, like, there's a ton of single girls in the house.

Maybe some of them like would start talking to you.

But when you like act like this, it's very unattractive.

They are literally like, go get tested.

Nobody's going to want to get with him.

And he's taking away from the show.

And he is being a bad roommate and it is weird to have all these strangers coming in and out of the house in the middle of the night you don't know these people like i think it needed to be said but like sierra saying it that day because of how paige felt like it was just you know

it seemed like it was for paige but i think in general it needed to be said i feel that way as a viewer this isn't a brothel Yeah, I feel like when he got, he's like, hasn't been a part of any drama, right?

So this is like his first, and it's a small like conversation.

And his response saying that like, you know,

I was undocumented for so many years.

And so I'm now going to like live loud.

Like, I actually think his story about being undocumented is so crazy and really interesting.

And I'm not clouting on that at all, but like to bring it up, like in a fight, like that's your excuse.

Like you're living it loud because I don't know.

You're just getting it in.

Like, just yeah, like, just stop.

Yeah, I definitely, and also, how awkward is that?

Like, I mean, maybe it's less awkward for it to be.

It's a conversation ender.

Well, he said it in his confessional.

oh okay i believe yeah no but how hard is it to be like like for someone to sit you down and be like you're a slut and it's really like inconvenient to the house dynamic like i think it would be harder for a girl to hear that like if a girl was shit obviously for bringing people home like i would seriously crawl into a hole and die and he's just so i felt like a little embarrassed for him but i think he should be a little embarrassed but he said he's like i'll stop like he i like i felt bad for him like i don't know i wasn't like hating on him as much as everybody else hates what he's doing but like the fact that we have to talk about it, like I, my cheeks are clenched.

When Jesse was like maybe in a way game once in a while, like he's so funny.

When Wes and Kyle got home at 5.30, which like I can't even talk about for the 42-year-old,

and they had the five-month pregnant woman lugging herself downstairs to open the door for them, like I actually wanted to throw up.

Yeah.

Wes is

the door.

I just want to, well, that's what happens in the Hamptons.

It happens with ours too, with the heat.

It expands the wood and then it doesn't fit in the dwarf room.

True.

Yes, I forgot about that.

Yeah, that's just like a funny Hamptons thing.

Wes is really having as good of a season as he can have, considering he was like the weenie of the year.

I feel like he's doing all the right things.

Agreed.

And I like for the house.

Oh, and to be clear, him coming home at 5:30, like, love that for you.

I'm talking about Kyle.

Of course, of course.

But like, he's just like, he's...

He's a value add, like, no matter how you want to say something.

Completely agree.

Like, all over my, I don't follow him on Instagram, but like, he's in, he's in Matt James's Passover seder from Kickball Friends.

Like, yeah, he's with Brianna Lepogli.

Like, he's doing, like, he's a great reality song.

He's a value add to the show.

And, and, even in his confessionals, like, he always has funny stuff to say.

I like his friendship with Jesse.

He's so supportive of him.

Like, and the cancer

moment when they went to the lodge and they gave back.

And that was so beautiful.

And like, that's when I just like want to wrap Jesse in a hug.

Like, he's such, he's such a king.

I know.

I have a hard time holding space for his dual personalities.

like he is pja mensch bring him home to your mother like so sweet been through so much gives back to the community he like loves to sing he's like releasing music i don't know i saw he's releasing music like there's so many cute little things about him

but seriously i hate this man like i the when he got first of all him being like you're flirting with wes like i'm sorry i i wasn't there but i know she was i know she was like i just like i know she wasn't she's obsessed with jesse and she is very she has said this a million times like i'm a one girl i'm a one guy gal like she's obsessed with jesse jesse like she's in a house i just don't think she was flirting with western to make himself feel better and be like look we're the same we're not the same yeah you are not the same and then telling her that he loves her in the bed like i felt sick because then

when he said that thing to sierra at

the cancer thing i was like i i'm done with you like that to me was the Your girlfriend has just asked you to like be respectful.

And so you'd be like, ah, Sierra, don't touch me.

Like fucking drama queen.

I wanted to, like, it makes her look crazy.

She has not once asked him to do something that was unreasonable, in my opinion.

So for, for him to have a conversation with Sierra, and I see why Sierra is like, okay, that's so rude telling me not to touch you.

And like, she's not wrong for being mad.

Him making a big kerfuffle out of it.

Like, you are responsible for your own actions.

So like, why don't you not flirt with people?

And then there won't be a problem.

Sierra doesn't have to change her behavior.

No.

Jesse has to change his.

So Jesse shouldn't touch Sierra's arm.

But if Sierra wants to touch his arm, like that's the least of the issues between them.

Don't lay on top of her in bathing suits on a pool float.

Don't put your leg over her.

Like that's the sort of things we're going to scale back first.

You want to get to perfection.

Why don't you work on all those things first?

And again, it's up to him to change his behavior.

If a girl touches your arm, like there's nothing that you could do about it.

But if you've corrected every single thing that you've done, don't you dare start telling other people what to do.

But like making a big scene out of it, like just makes Lexi look so bad.

Uh-huh.

When she really has not been unreasonable at all, I'm dying for her to break up with him.

It's so annoying that all these things keep happening and she doesn't see it.

And then, like, the version she gets, like, is the truth, but it's not like accurate enough.

Yeah.

Um, it's so fucking frustrating.

And that pissed me off so much.

Yeah.

That was weird.

Just he's not, he's not understanding like what's being asked of him and why.

No.

And why.

No, and like, does he like her?

Like, I'm so confused.

Yeah.

He does really like her, but this is how like but not enough to like

exercise some willpower

but i don't think there's anyone that could make him behave any i don't think he could meet any girl that would be that he likes more that would be more perfect that would make him behave any differently than he does right now because that's just him like lexi's serious right because let's say he got with siara he would sierra's his girlfriend he would do it with the next girl yeah he amanda and and everyone in the house And I just want to be clear, so far, because so much of what Wes like got shit for, we didn't see

so far jesse's behavior has been 10 times worse than anything wes did last season yeah it's all happening in like turbo mode yeah and it's all on camera yeah but it's happening in the span of like four weeks whereas west's took like about eight months six months right i also love to see them out leaving the house like going clubbing like that's that's fun yeah it was kind of a random episode because it's just like a sunday morning

into the week and then like some sun oh yeah then we went to the city yeah but it was but i do like when they film in the city yeah me too.

For so long, it was like knitted to each other for five days.

Like, that's.

I wanted that hummus platter.

When the girls were out.

When the girls were out, probably those pitas.

I need a pita.

They do film at interesting places in the city.

Where was that?

Like places you've never heard of.

Oh, well, they have to get filming.

Where were they to get like a permit?

And even the food for the

Hope Lodge thing looked so good.

I mean, taco.

I need a taco bowl.

I'm just hungry and I'm craving bread.

Is CSCI?

But I want a taco bowl.

Like I might go to Chipotle after last night's episode.

Fuck shit up and go to Chipotle.

I don't know.

Chipotle gives me the willies.

That was a Nuralta for you.

Neuralt?

Let me see.

Oh, you had a dose of Neuralta.

I hope everyone's feeling better.

An hour-long episode.

Like, how regular are we?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

She just hung up.

Our call failed.

I really don't want to call her back.

Here's what I'll do.

I wonder if she's talking.

Hopefully she's not.

Because I could just like wrap up.

Hopefully, she's just like sitting in silence.

Okay, have you talked?

Because I've been talking, telling everyone what's going on.

No, did you end?

No, like, I'm saying, like, I'm going to end it.

I'm just going to end it.

I'm leaving all of this in.

Leave it all in.

I didn't talk because I thought maybe you do the whole sign-off.

Okay, no, I'm dining off.

Okay, I'm hanging up and I'm going to sign off.

Wait, okay, I'm going to shout out.

Actually, wait, just stay with me.

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