The Poorest Kardashian: Wednesday, April 16th, 2025

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day.

Don't forget to tell someone you love.

Speaking of somebody I love and somebody who is like seriously always humping me,

I have to like literally call the police to get her off of me.

It's Jackie O. And speaking of the most truthful person I know.

That's me.

Never tell a lie. It's Cojers Wojers in a jean jacket.
Tell us about this, Cojers. You know, this thing that you do where you like just acknowledge what I'm wearing, you have to stop.
We have limited options. The thing that I do where I see you? Yeah.
Like just don't address my clothing. Like the options are so beyond limited these days.
Like, for you to even, like, talk about what I'm wearing is hurtful. Okay? So just fuck off.
Okay? Okay. Even though a jean jacket is a classic and all-American look.
I didn't think it was, like, even, like, so crazy. But whatever.
I didn't think it was so crazy that day I wore a vest. You didn't think it was worth mentioning? Well, I'm just always seeing you when you have have it something different, like you're wearing a pad, like I just can tell.
I'm wearing a pad today too. Oh wow.
Yeah, no, you can always see me so why don't you just close your eyes. Okay.
And enjoy. I'll close my eyes.
But you've been wearing a pad every day since the great pad experiment of 2025? I wouldn't say every day but I would say a lot of days. Okay, so like it's a success.
Yes, it's an improvement. Now, I wanted to apologize for briefly ending yesterday's episode.
You know how it genuinely pains me to let down the DTQ. Like I would cut any segment before I cut Deer Toasters.
Like I take it really seriously. So you just know I had to have been in like a bad spot.
And I really was. And I was not going to share, you know, but the story has a happy ending.

So I will share.

I've had a really rough couple of days, like seriously, so physically unwell.

It's just really crazy the expectation that like pregnant women are supposed to like

survive on no sleep.

I've never experienced, sleep has always been a priority for me.

I've never experienced a life with like weeks of no sleep.

It's crazy.

And it messes with you physically, emotionally, mentally.

And I really was like having a bad couple of days.

And I'm like, there's no way the rest of pregnancy is going to be like this.

Like, I'm not fucking okay.

And I had an acupuncture appointment.

Literally, I had an acupuncture appointment.

I'm like, not this bullshit.

Like, I was about to cancel.

I'm like, I'm not going all the way uptown. I was so tired.
tired and I was like on the verge of tears everything was like making me want to cry and I went and I was so annoyed when I left because when I got out of the session I realized she didn't put any needles in my pinky toes which is the pressure point I'm going to acupuncture to flip my baby okay so I went all the way uptown to flip the baby and she didn't put any pressure points I'm like oh wait do we not do that every week she was like we do but you were telling me she asked me how I was feeling before and I just like I almost started crying like I unloaded she was like so I thought we would tackle that and I have two appointments every week so the other appointment can be for flipping baby when I tell you I left with tears in my eyes I was so mad I'm like I did not just waste two hundred dollars and so much of my time to not even flip this maybe and I told her that like I can't slate my eyes. I was so mad.
I'm like, I did not just waste $200 and so much of my time to not even flip this fucking baby. And I told her that like, I can't sleep.
My legs are killing me. I'm up all night.
I pee every two hours. I wake up drenched in my own sweat.
So whatever, I get home. Ben made me feel better.
He made me dinner. I had a little, um, I can't say because I had a little hummus.
Like that was the other thing. I haven't eaten a proper like.
Oh, you didn't have sausage and peppers? No, Ben made sausage and peppers for himself. I haven't had like a nutritious meal.
So I'm feeling weak. Like everything.
And I was just like, fuck it. I needed a fucking meal.
Okay. What'd you have? So I didn't have, I didn't have bread.
And that's like, I'm not having bread. Agreed.
I'm not having bread. But I had egg noodles because I wanted cottage cheese.
Like I thought that would be good protein for me. That is good.
That's fair.

I'm sorry.

I needed it.

And I actually felt a lot better afterwards.

And it's made of eggs.

So it's not.

Yeah.

Pass.

I thought it was like a good little loophole.

So Ben helped me.

We got new pillows.

I went to bed.

And I woke up.

I'm actually healed from every single ailment that once befalled me. I was in shock.
I woke up to pee. Usually I wake, I fall asleep at 9.30.
I wake up to pee at 11.30. I fell asleep at 9.30.
I woke up to pee at 4.30. I'm like, oh my God, did I die? What happened? And then I usually can't fall back asleep.
And I'm like up at five. Went back to sleep until eight.
And as I'm waking up, I'm realizing I didn't choke on my own vomit, which I've been doing all the time. My legs weren't aching and cramping.
And this is the first morning, probably in the last eight months that I haven't woken up drenched in my own sweat. And I was like, there's no way.
Because I'm doing acupuncture, but I'm obviously like, I have a healthy amount of skepticism about it. I don't think, I actually believe in it, but I think people who have cancer and go for acupuncture, that's crazy.
I think, yeah, there are certain things, but I don't know. I'm a little skeptical.
Call me a believer. First of all, I don't have any heartburn right now.
I feel amazing. I can't get over it.
Wow. No, no.
Jackie, it's the craziest thing. I'm so happy for you and the magic of the East has been so happy.
So when I woke up, he was like, I'm so glad you slept. What do you think it was? He thinks that because he makes me take magnesium before bed, that it helps.
I'm like, I take it every night and I have shitty sleep every night. So just because it was tonight doesn't mean anything.
He was like, it was the manganese, the Magneze. I'm like, no.
And then I'm like, wait, acid reflux. She did a pressure point for acid reflux, for my, my temperature running hot, for my leg cramps, like, and sleep, all the things.
And I was like, Ben, I think it was the acupuncture to hear me say that. Like he's never loved me more.
You know, he always wants me to believe in like the magic of Western. kind of big announcement today I'm transitioning you know I've kind of had an obsession with becoming Latina over the last year or two I am leaving that part of myself behind and I am fully diving into Chinese culture Chinese medicine Chinese traditions because the way this has like actually saved my life I could if I was still going I wouldn't have been able to come into work today.
I understand. Well, I'm so happy for the job and for the show that you're here, but you don't think that you slept like just having so much peace of mind, knowing that today spritz would be available everywhere.
You don't think that's what it was? No, honestly, if I'm being honest, I probably had a little bit more worry. You know, this big launch day weighing on me, our commercial hitting the streets.
Like I had even more concern and more stress and I had an even better night's sleep. So what does that say about the power of acupuncture? Yeah, it's very, very powerful.
But I do think we can sleep well knowing now that Spritz is available everywhere, which is our big announcement of the day. Our commercial dropped this morning.
We were talking about our big commercial and I feel like it lives up to the hype you know oh my god not like yeah it's giving Mary-Kate and Ashley it's giving Disney Channel and it's giving accessibility for Spritz because now it is available in Target nationwide right so go puff and Target you can get Spritz literally in your state like holla and. And then also, of course, our regular retailers.
We're in Whole Foods. We're in H-E-B.
And actually, something nobody's even talking about is you also, in the select markets, can get same-day delivery on Spritz. That's major key.
Thanks to the magic of GoPuff. So check that out.
Get a Spritz. Let's all celebrate.
Claudia slept. I slept.
It's a cause to celebrate.

It is.

And if you like, if you support women, you'll have a spritz.

Definitely.

Because it's a female founded business.

And I just want to speak to, I just, I need to get on my high horse for one more second.

And then I promise we'll talk about something else.

I want to speak to the woman out there who is pregnant and being like, who feels like she's 39 weeks and six days pregnant.

Like there's no way she could go on one more day like this. you're not like you still have like a couple of weeks left book an acupuncture appointment two hundred dollars i would have paid two thousand dollars it is worth have your friends everybody wants to get you a gift tell everybody venmo you fifty dollars okay like no like no it's expensive like go it is life-changing do you think they're at and by the way I've been seeing a lot of acupuncture propaganda in a positive way like you know it's positive um and I'm a believer and I I want to try it but do you think there are acupuncturist practitioners who are quacks and like they don't know what they're doing they're just like sticking needles in you yes and so that's why i feel like for this particular thing like sometimes it's okay to cheap out and like go to like a massage parlor that's a hole in the wall because a rub is a rub you know yeah but this is needles yes i like my place is fancy it's actually like a doctor's office yeah i think you got to go fancy i agree that's what i'm saying like it's expensive but it is Especially if you're pregnant.
Exactly. Dirty needles.
No, thank you. No, no.
That's for the layman.

Even though like one of the pressure points was like where like where you slit your wrists, like literally right there. It felt like I did not like it.
I'm like, what is this? Well, I'm not complaining anymore. No, I'm not complaining.
I'm really happy for you. I'm happy for me happy for me too I also then had the you know um energy to watch the valley watch real housewives of Beverly Hills part three we have a big chunky tv recap we do which I'm excited about not I watched the valley as you guys know I've never seen the first season but Bravo put together this like 25 minute recap of season one on their YouTube which which I watched.
And I felt like I like knew everything. And I called Jackie to like chat about it.
And she was like talking about people. I'm like, wait, who's that? They literally weren't in the recap.
Janet wasn't in the recap. Zach wasn't in the recap.
Barely. But I know them.
I know their faces from social media and just like being a Bravo fan. That couple whose daughter is on Young Sheldon.
naya and danny they were not in the recap once that's insane so your recap stunk because then i had to recap it for you and i'm really excited to recap the valley to see what you think about people i'll let you know if you're right or wrong based on season one did you see chris and dodie wearing a good guy's hat last season you mean a year ago when i watched oh was that a flashback she was wearing it this season yeah in in the first episode she's sitting at someone's counter wearing a black hat i miss the good guys logo i miss i'm just so used to it they're so ubiquitous i was actually shocked i was like ah and ben was like what's wrong i was like look it was really jarring she's so ride or die that is really funny um one of the great fun facts about Hollywood is like Kristen Doty and Josh Peck are like such good friends and they have been for years I wouldn't put the two together never well we'll get to the TV recap during the TV recap other than that we have the stories for you we have a lot to talk about today actually time 100 most influential we do I also have an admission I did admit this to you privately and I appreciate you like you didn't even bring it up on the show to try and like embarrass me um but you could have like I need to I need to say what I've been doing what I even as of this morning as recently as this morning I have been getting ready listening to Sam Hunt. Oh, yeah.
I'm going to add it to the list, if I may. Yeah.
And I also will add pads while I'm here. Yeah, sure.
Add the pads. As you guys know, I have long stood against Sam Hunt and everything he stands for.
I could acknowledge that there was a time and place where he was making really good music and was well on his way to being the next Morgan Wallen. And I bet he looks at Morganen and wants to vomit because like that literally should have been him um but with his you know grotesque personal life choices I just couldn't get behind him and for some reason like really started to hate him like more than I needed to more than the usual DUI yeah he became the face for me of the DUI movement like everyone else you've forgiven it doesn't color how you speak about them now except for Sam Hunt like because you wanted to hate him for other reasons.
DUI or no DUI.

1000%. And I think a lot of it had to do with the way he like talk sings.
That also makes him easy to hate. And Jackie was recently talking about the song 2016 and how like it makes her cry.
So I was like sure I'll put it on. And then I ended up like listening to Sam Hunt for an hour.
Old music. And I forget how much I used to listen.
Like I knew the whole Montalvo album, you know, Montevallo.

We were all there.

Whatever it's called.

And then the new music,

like,

okay,

Sam Hine,

I see you.

You've got a cold heart and a cold hard truth.

Like,

let me tell you,

I am woman enough to admit when I'm wrong.

I know everybody thinks like I'm not like lively,

like she'll never admit it.

Like,

no,

I am.

I can admit when I'm wrong.

It will take me years. But I'm, I'm a patient person.
And I'm not like lively like she'll never admit it like no I am I can admit when I'm wrong it will take me years but I'm good I'm a patient person and I'm here and Jackie didn't even bring it up because I told her this like a couple of days ago and she was shocked I was just like your private guilty pleasure my big secret I didn't need to air it out I'm just like happy more than me wanting to be right like I just want you to listen to Sam Hunt because I think you would enjoy it and you do know me extremely well because I did did enjoy it. I'm so so happy to listen to his new song Liberty.
I don't know I didn't like look at the names. You would have if you heard it like you would have skipped it because the beginning is like kind of slow and he is talking but then when you get into the rest of the song it's so good.
I have to shout out Shannon because she posted about it and I was I would have skipped over it because of the beginning but I was like okay no Shannon said it's really good so like let me give it a minute and it's so good it's new from like another piece of work that I have been diving into I don't know why I've like had a lot of time to like maybe during like exercises and stuff by the way did you know that Spotify was down this morning and I was trying to listen to Spotify in my bathroom it was being like it wasn't connecting and I thought it was because I was on Bluetooth in the in my living room and then my phone was being slow and I was like maybe Spotify is down I was like okay your phone's broken like Spotify's not down then I'm going for stories daily mail wait why is that so crazy you said it's so crazy like because like wait by the way I just like I had the thought that Spotify was down because mine wasn't working and I'm like no you just your Wi-fi is it's hard not to like make everything about yourself like it was for the whole world spotify was down i had to listen to apple music radio i listened today on spotify completely fine what time no when i was getting ready probably 8 30 9 30 it was working then i was that's when i was listening in the living room but starting at 9 30 it stopped working i was unaffected by the spotify outage could affect the podcast today just of course shit yeah now you care of course now i'm personally affected yeah and i was well another piece of musical apple music radio claudia damn why don't you just like download pandora while you're at it sit with that okay well what i Well, what I have been sitting with. I've been through stuff.

And I know everybody like was mad at me for sleeping on it.

And I, once again, I'm here to admit that I was wrong.

I totally slept on, what's the album called?

Deeper Well?

Casey.

Yeah, what's the album called?

I think it's called Deeper Well.

I knew Deeper Well and I knew The Architect

and that's pretty much it.

But I listened to the whole thing front and back

at acupuncture yesterday. And let me tell you, it's par delicious.
Now I know everybody knows that. I just want to say, I didn't say, I never said it was bad.
I never like spent time with it. So it took me a while to sit on it.
Spotify's down. I would tell you what the album's called, but Spotify is down.
Oh my, they need to get it together before we have to upload our episode. Like actually not cool.
They hate to see women in media succeeding. I didn't realize that you had slept on that album.
Yes, like almost completely. Except for the hits, The Architect.
It's called Deeper Well. It's called Deeper Well.
I would tell you my favorite songs from the album, but Spotify is down. I guess we'll never know.
Unless we happen to come back to this conversation one day. Maybe like in a year.
I feel like we actually have the same conversations like every year on the day you know no I feel like we're uniquely creative and original of course there's always something fresh but like I do think like how you sometimes look at your time hop and you happen to be wearing the same outfit you wore a year ago today yeah very cosmic energy yeah like there's just something that the season that has us talking about like Casey Mus Casey Muscle. It just is.
And also she tweeted something, and so she's in the news, like, just saying. Is she in a story today? I think I had six.
I was whittling down to five. She might not make the cut.
That's okay. I don't know about her tweet.
We'll see. I'll decide during the ad, so it'll be really kind of like a suspenseful.
A game time decision. A suspenseful experience for you guys.
Ooh. Will we talk about Casey or will we not stay tuned will they won't they stay tuned for that oh wow okay so Spotify's down turdies up I guess you'll be listening on Apple podcasts or YouTube today you know what if if you are a listener an audio listener who is being affected I mean you probably aren't hearing this because you can't get the episode but if you are like let me encourage you to move over to YouTube just for today I really think you're gonna like it we put so much effort into our video I'm wearing a jean jacket like you have to see like my husband brought up a box of spritz this morning to celebrate the launch like you wouldn't even see that I'm sitting next to a part of your product of pink lemonade that matches my sweater my shoes and my iPadad and my frames and your studio yeah you wouldn't know that even though like fun facial expressions we have a really good time over at youtube so i know it's not for everyone if you're on a train you're not going to be you know you should stay alert you know look and keep on a train i feel like you could no on a train it depends where you live not a subway but like yeah it depends which train but like you know, you gotta be aware of your surroundings.
You're walking to work. You can't be like, you know.
If you're walking, no, no. So don't endanger yourselves, but maybe let this be the push that you need to watch on YouTube.
And of course, subscribe while you're there. And some of you bitches who watch every day, like, feel free to subscribe.
Feel free to subscribe, but like, it actually makes no difference where you choose to consume us as long as you do. Like, seriously.
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I'm so sorry. I've been meaning to make that announcement because like, you know, we like if I'm raising prices, like I'm raising prices.
I'm not. It wasn't even, this is not my price raise.
This is not my price raise. Yeah.
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Oh my God. I'm so glad I just remembered that.
Another thanks to acupuncture. I'm feeling really clear.
Clear. Crystal clear.
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Our first story, Time 100 Most Influential People list has dropped.

So Time has assembled their 100 Most influential people of 2025 celebrities artists leaders world leaders written by other people and we shall go through the list of names that we know that we recognize is that fair yes i know you guys love list day you do love list day we make it quick. This list is very confusing to me because while like a lot of people on this list like sure yeah you're influential like are you 100? It's a tall task.
This year in particular. It's a tall task that they set out to do and I just feel like they never really do it and 100 is like too much because then it's like might as well be a thousand you know.
No it's not even the number so much that bothers me because I feel like they cover a variety of categories whether it's like athletes world leaders musicians I feel like where it gets confusing is that they just put up people like yeah who are famous for sure but like what about this particular year was made Snoop Dogg deserving no or Ed Sheeran and Scarlett Johansson meanwhile Taylor Swift is not on the list and she's just like so obvious right but I also think you have to agree to be on the list and like sit down for some sort of interview. Yeah, someone interviews you like a famous person.
They like nominate you. So here are some of the people who are the most influential people that you have heard of.
Okay. Ed Sheeran by Chris Hemsworth.
Sure. He's not non-influential, but he's obviously doing a lot of press right now.

So he was very excited. No, I don't feel like he was particularly influential this year.

Honestly.

I think he plans to be.

I think he has big plans for the year.

He has his new song.

But the Time 100 is like things you already did.

Like we all have plans.

I plan to be influential this year.

He is influential.

Like every song he drops goes to number one.

Like that's influenced.

Sure.

Okay.

Cool.

I'm so influenced.

Okay. Next, Scarlett Johansson by Chris Evans okay sure if you say so yeah okay um Daniel Day Kim by J.J.
Abrams I don't know who Daniel is but I know J.J. I know Daniel he's from Lost and that's why J.J.
wrote about. Sure.
If you say so. It's just like Hollywood.
This is the artist category. Kristen Bell by Ted Danson.
You know what? I wouldn't put her on this list, but when you think about it, she actually is really influential. I'm sorry, Princess Anna is incredibly influential.
But also her TV show this year was widely watched. And the other one.
It's a good place. Right, which is why Ted Danson wrote it.
Actually, I think that's like a good choice. Yeah, that's fine.
That one I agree with. Adam Scott by Nick Offerman.
Severance is very big. Rashida Jones by Amy Poehler.
They like, that breed of like female comedian, that genre, like they're never a bad. Yeah, like, sure.
The Maya Rudolph, Tina Fey. Sure, but it's like, if she dropped a lipstick, how many people are influenced to go and buy it? Well, I guess it comes back to, what does the word influential truly mean? I'm sure somewhere in these articles it's in there for Time's definition.
And I took a brief look at the list and actually didn't see any influencers. Yeah, like, Alex Earl's not here kardash like sorry kim kardashian kylie jenner they're the most influential people in the world so if they're not on your list i actually don't think that they are i think at one point they were who is um who's the most influential person in the world a monk doesn't have to be like give me someone i wonder what ai would say okay who's the most influential person in the world? Well, I think Trump.
No, well, you have to think like, no, because world, like Blackpink, you know? Well, Rosé is on this list, but she's not. Oh, by the way, they break it down by category on AI.
But she's in the pioneers category. She's not on the artists, which I thought was interesting.
They ran out of space okay this is actually really interesting this is who they said in the political they said president chi which i completely agree with like and joe biden today it's just yeah like it's kind of crazy um technological influence elon musk cultural role influence Taylor Swift and Lionel Messi, Lionel Messi. Okay.
That's a good one.

Like. Um, technological influence, Elon Musk, cultural influence, Taylor Swift and Lionel Messi,

Lionel Messi.

Okay.

That's a good one.

Like, I don't know his name.

It's not Lionel, right?

No, it's not Lionel.

It's no, no, it's Lionel.

You're lying.

You're lying.

I'm like almost a hundred percent sure it's not Lionel.

Okay.

That's a good one.

And then philosophical and social impact, Pope Francis.

Yeah. Yes.
The Pope is the most influential person in the world. I feel like that's a safe choice.
Let's narrow it down by social media reach. They're going to say Selena Gomez.
Honestly, I don't trust them. Cristiano Ronaldo.
Yeah, that's what I was... they're just going by who has the most followers TikTok Kabi Lame oh my god I just read something about Kabi Lame I think what happened do you know who that is yeah of course I just like read a brief on him like about his rise to fame and now he's like no nothing disappeared yeah it's really crazy I didn't I never heard of him but it was like some i don't know probably you never heard of probably lame no not before i read this ai generated tweet it was like a tiktok thing but he made the most like very simple content like reaction videos reaction videos and literally had a became the most followed person on the platform was a you know um i got a huge campaign with hugo boss like then a lot of controversy did he well one like people were saying like how is this person the most followed like he's not really doing anything like he's just like kind of taking other people's content and then like yeah but that's the internet i don't i never saw people have a taking issue with that that's what the ai generated tweet said and then i can tell you oh and then he was fighting with charlie d'amelio's fans well okay so this ai tweet is like there there's no nuance in this tweet he just he did surpass charlie as like the most followed person at one point so of course like the charlie d'amelio's were like but copy lame but like there wasn't real drama no oh okay well ai thought that there was but honestly i'm gonna say like ai is not the foremost authority in this conversation because- I know.
Because influence is like, it's not a tangible thing. By the way, it's very human.
Yes. And like you could have more followers, but be less influential.
So AI only sees numbers. It's true.
One day they'll get there, but today they're not the authority. Then Nicole Scherzinger by Patti LuPone.
What? Okay. Thank you for that reaction.
reaction that's crazy i know she had a big year like she had a really successful broadway show but like i'm sorry that's crazy kristen wig by marielle heller i'm not sure what she did this year in particular i'm not saying she's not an influential person i'm not but i am saying she's not a hundred global no hozier by noah khan i like it i like it i don't miss i wouldn't do it but i like hozier and i he deserves his flowers and him and noah khan make a lot of music together and they had a lot of like huge hits this year yeah do you know someone named miranda july feels like i don't know okay okay by Molly it does I don't know who that is um then icons Demi Moore by Ryan Murphy okay I mean it was a big year for her but again she's not a highly influential person thank you so they're getting confused with like success and influence Jalen Hurts by Derek Jeter yeah that's a good one oh i love by derek jeter adrian brody my king yeah like but he's not influential it's like to me more like does he even have instagram who are you influencing and how yeah no i guess if he makes a movie people will go see it no and to be clear like there are more than there's more than one way to be influential we obviously see influence through the lens of social media, which I think is a huge category. You can have influence in other ways.
They always put a Malala on here, and she obviously is not raking up the Instagram followers, but she has enormous influence. I don't think that in Hollywood, like traditional Hollywood, which is why you and I are like, most of these people carry a lot of influence.
You can be very famous and recognizable, very, very successful, but that does not mean you carry influence. But I think someone who is an actress who doesn't have an Instagram who carries influence would be like Jennifer Lawrence.
When she makes a movie, people are going to go see it. Zendaya.
Yes. David Muir by Diane Sawyer.
Classic David Muir.

Took me a second to remember who that was.

Bobby Brown by Charlemagne the God.

The makeup?

Mm-hmm.

How do those two know each other?

I'm sure I could click it, but we don't have time for that.

But literally, who cares?

Yeah, but that is interesting.

Then leaders.

And so you have everyone here.

Keir Starmer, Claudia Scheinbaum, not to be confused with you. President of Mexico.
Trump. My former people.
Elon. J.D.
Vance. Howard Lutnick.
Megyn Kelly. I don't know who Howard is.
He's in the government now. RFK.
Yeah, that feels right noah argamani our queen feels right former hostage yeah and i feel like when they do these lists and they put anyone like israeli on it they have to also like put someone else to like balance it out like i'm sure that that person is on this list there i'm just skipping over them because i don't know who they are yeah um but i'm sure that But I'm sure that plenty. Javier Malay, the Argentinian president.
I don't know if you've seen him around. I'm not familiar with his work at all.
Shocking. I don't follow him on Instagram.
Next category, Titans. So people who didn't like fit into other categories.
So they're just like random. Oh, I would think Titans would be like business, no? Of industry.
It's a little everything. So Serena Williams I would say she's Titanic I would say she's extremely influential actually yes extremely Titanic oh yeah I forgot we're talking about influence influence Blake Lively Titan I mean she did launch like a thousand companies this year um but in terms of yeah she might not be the right category but yes she like was influential this year do you know what, yeah.
No, I'm not offended. And I think a little bit of her brief by Sherilyn Ifill focused on her donation.
Charitable work. Yeah.
Yeah. Ed Bastian.
Who's that again? Oh, the CEO of Delta. He plays on the TV every time you get on a flight.
That's influence. Yeah, by the way.
No, he is so classic. I only know his name because of the in-flight entertainment.
Lorne Michaels by Will Ferrell. Influential.
Influential. There you go.
And it probably doesn't have Instagram, but we can look past that. We're capable.
Simone Biles by Allie Reisman. Very influential.
So cute. So cute.
Muccia Prada by Baz Luhrmann. Honestly, that's a great selection because Mew Mew, like this year was the year of Mew Mew.
Like every, all the young hot things. Like everybody wants to be Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew.
And so like good on them for like actually like recognizing that. Yeah.
Ted Sarandos by Shonda Rhimes. That's good.
CEO of Netflix. CEO of Netflix influence.
Joe Rogan by Mike Rowe. Duh.
Like if you don't have him on this list, like you're not taking this project seriously. That's the definition of someone who influences others.
The textbook definition of influence. Of influence.
Yeah. A thousand percent.
Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, I guess he makes himself influential.
He's more powerful. I don't think people like hear him talk and are like, wow, I agree.
But I think like he's very powerful like which is a form of influence Bezos where's Jeff no I'm sorry powerful is a power is a form of influence but where's Jeff Bezos then I don't feel like I feel like you well I guess Elon's on it yeah all the billionaires are on it Jeff Bezos is always getting left out of stuff that's why he like started Blue Origin like he's always kind of being forgotten or maybe he doesn't pitch himself for this stuff even though i don't believe that for one second he loves this no you know those billionaires they have like the biggest egos it's this shit like this is all they care about yeah honestly his absence is glaring next i didn't think so but coming off the heels of the blue origin all-female passenger crew like you're right and like i don't think president she is on here he should be right his absence is glaring even ai said he's number one pioneers rose by lily collins cute apata this is i feel like this list is meant to be global or yeah definitely because there's a lot of names that i don't know i i think it's meant to be global well like with a touch of global but maybe not entirely because then it's this is an american publication but uh they definitely want to capture global sentiment um tons of names i don't know in this category but miles smith by shibuzzi and they just dropped a song together that's so pargy he's a singer it's miles smith he's a singer that Margot loves. And then he dropped a song with Shibuzi, who I love.
So it's really brought us together as sisters. OK, I got it.
So we're getting down to the sort of last licks of the list. Innovators.
Snoop Dogg by Hoda. Cute.
By Hoda. Nikki Glaser by Ali Wong.
Absolutely well-deserved. Incredibly influential this year.
Yeah. A lot of other people who I don't know.
And that is all. Oh, no.
All right. Well.
Oh, it's not. No, no, no.
Sorry. That's just from Cat in the Hat.
Oh. Carry on.
I guess like Joe Rogan is the only influencer, but it's actually really crazy to not have Alex Earl. More podcasters, TikTokers, like because that is influence obviously it's not the only form of influence but there should be at least a category for it yeah like I would say Theo Vaughn is more influential than Demi Moore I actually agree I think Theo Vaughn that's a great the smartless guys yeah yeah but they're so like like Adrian Brody took their spot they're not competing with Joe Rogan they're competing well that's the other thing so there are people on this list who have you know traditional trades and skills like acting or singing who also do podcasting and that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking about like podcasters by trade theo von yeah so there you go hope you feel once again our industry constantly being looked over especially when like i think we can all agree that the 2024 election was like greatly decided in part due to the influence of podcasting so for like our industry to be left off completely besides Joe Rogan which is like obviously like you have to I don't it's insulting yeah but also the tiktokers the influencers the instagramers I'm talking about like the internet in general yeah they should have picked like one person from each platform so if they want Joee rogan to represent the power of podcasting that's fine by me alex earl to represent the tiktokers or even narra smith yeah i don't think she's as influential as alex earl um no i think she is really i think they're definitely on the same level really and they operate like kind of in different.
So like they really coexist quite nicely. Oh yeah.
I don't even think of the two. Like I don't even.
Because what I think of like right now the biggest people on TikTok. Not in terms of numbers.
Just in terms of like who we're talking about. Yeah.
It's like Lucky Blue and Nara and Alex Earl. Okay.
Yeah. I would have taken any of them.
too no not a Kardashian in sight yeah that's crazy

give us one yeah yeah or just say the card or Chris they love Chris Chris they love her Titan

Titan yeah well our next story is actually about the Kardashians and something that we were talking

about yesterday because Khloe Kardashian revealed who gets paid the most for their Kardashians

so Khloe Kardashian has really jumped into that yeah has really jumped into the podcasting world

All right. yesterday because Khloe Kardashian revealed who gets paid the most for their Kardashians.
So Khloe Kardashian has really jumped into the podcasting world headfirst these days. She talks about it on the show.
She's dropped a bunch of episodes. She went on Call Her Daddy in yesterday's episode.
And Alex asked Khloe if it's true that you and your sisters are all paid the same amount for the Kardashians. And she said true.
and i'm like an egalitarian you know like yeah i'm mad for certain people like actually right now like i don't even think i think that courtney getting paid the same as the rest of them of them is like actually fair she has put in the years of work and now she's taking time like to be a mom and i think that like that is completely fine and and allowed. But like Kylie.
No the thing is low key Kourtney gets. It probably goes like Kim and Khloe and then Kourtney and then Kendall and then Kylie in terms of airtime.
No Kourtney. Kim and Kourtney.
Kris. Oh I'm taking Kris out because she gets 10% of what like I'm just.
Wait so does she get an even cut and then 10% of everyone else's? I think she gets 10% of the deal and then gets her cut. So she makes more than everyone.
Oh, definitely. And they talked about that on this season, like how she still takes 10% from all of them.
She should. She should.
She absolutely should. No, she totally should.
But no, Courtney actually films a lot. It's not the way that she used to, like sitting around talking about their feelings, but like she shows a lot of stuff with Travis.
Travis she shows her family like maybe it's not people's favorite stuff to watch but like she contributes Kylie didn't even this season like she definitely took a step back solo confessionals she only did confessionals with Kendall yeah no all I'm saying is like in terms of I feel like Kourtney had like significantly less air time this season and I think that's completely fair I think she's like earned the right to that. Whereas Kylie has, I guess,

consistently taken her piece of the pie and never once really made an impact

or like been a main character,

not one season ever.

I wonder why they're okay with that.

I feel like in order for it to work,

like they have to be paid the same, but it also makes it impossible to not be resentful yeah and Kim is so like business business hustle hustle hustle like you would think this would bother her because like if they start getting into like okay I was in 60 percent of the show so I get 60 percent and you're in 10 percent you get 10 percent like it gets like kind of like nasty and petty and some people could argue well my 10% is more interesting than your 30% so yes they should be paid the same but like why don't they demand that Kylie do more and I'm saying this as someone who wants more Kylie so I'm saying it selfishly like get in there I'm saying it as someone who's like I'm just like a big fan of things being fair yeah and. And this feels unfair.
And I'm surprised

that they don't talk about it more.

And I guess like

of all their revenue streams,

like this probably isn't the biggest

or the most important.

It's just like one of the things

that they do.

And that's why it's important

that they all have their own big things.

Skims, Good American, Kylie Cosmetics.

But it would bother me.

And because Kylie is so wealthy,

like if it was for the poorest sister

who like wasn't doing.

Who do you think is the poorest sister? Kourtney. Well, no.
Now she lives in a dual income home. Yeah.
Kendall? No. Why? Why no? She gets like big fashion contracts.
Like a lot of them. Like I see her every long chomp.
But are those like $50, $100 million? Well, then she does a lot of commercial big ones like Coach and L'Oreal. Okay.
And that's hundreds of millions millions because the girls are making hundreds of millions i would guess that kendall she became the international face of l'oreal paris like a year or two ago i would say that that was at least a 50 million dollar contract and that's one of like the couple of things that she does i know but that's like not a lot compared to like what kim's pulling in and and no kim and kylie and i would say courtney, excuse me, Khloe, Good American is like really... I think that it's not a question.
It's more about who's poor, Kourtney or Kendall. Well, definitely.
Well, Kourtney with Travis. Right, that's the thing.
Travis is very successful. And then Kendall does 818, but does that make her money yet? Oh, I'm sorry.
I forgot about 818. Kourtney's the poorest sister.
Because you really have to think about it. Like, all of them, they do with, like, social media stuff, brand deals, and it all pretty much nets the same.
But then they all have their individual companies. And I would say all of them are extremely successful.
Push is probably the least successful. Lemmy.
Kourtney. Oh, fuck.
I forgot about Lemmy. Lemmy's very successful.
Actually, I would argue Lemmy's doing. Yes.
Yes. I would say Lemmy's probably.
Lemmy's crushing it. Oh, shit.
I don't know. Courtney was definitely the poorest sister for a while.
Yeah. Before Travis and before Lemmy.
And before she got married. Yeah.
Yeah. But I'm just saying, like, if the person who was doing the least also happened to be the poorest sister, like, I can understand why you.
Of course. And wonder i wonder if do they pay rob from the show not that he's on it but like kardashian sister makes the least amount of money jackie i thought the same thing about rob and i actually think that they probably split it with him too yeah because he started the show with them and he he doesn't work and they obviously has his reasons that they all really understand right and, and it's not like Chris is seriously paying his bills.

I think they give him things.

As of 2025, Chloe and Kendall have the lowest reported net worths,

each estimated to be $60 million.

No.

Kim and Kylie have billions.

They are not $60 million.

No.

And what about Kourtney? She's not in this thing that AI generated for me. It can't be 60.
Sound off in the comments. Who do you think is the poorest Kardashian? So who's your final answer? I actually don't know.
Like I thought I knew. I get, no 818 is really successful.

More successful than Good American.

And who's bringing, like is 818 have to sell in order for her to make money?

Like does she actually?

Well, yes.

Yes.

It's all about like net worth, right?

Like what is 818 worth versus what's in her bank account?

I'm talking about worth.

Worth.

I don't know.

I really, I'm stumped. I guess it's good.
They've all really found good niches for themselves. But like I was, like even with the way that they live, they all live at like the same level.
So I really don't know. Yeah.
Except for Kim and Kylie who have planes. Correct.
So the mystery continues. I guess at the end of the day.
And I'm just in shock. Were there any follow-up questions chloe like does that not bother you a rapid fire q a oh damn and then she was rapid fire leaves no room for nuance no it was like just true or false so she said true thompson and then in a follow-up question alex asked if she and her family members who are also executive producers are allowed to cut any footage that you don't that they don't like for sure and she said yes but it's more vanity things that we would cut like yeah like if you don't like how you look at an angle she said that Courtney actually asked for the most cuts because of how much she says like which is funny and relatable I love that and it's funny because like the final edit like she still says it so many times yeah you can only imagine how bad it really is yeah I mean the struggle is real with that i feel like we've gotten a lot better we've gotten a lot better but we've we've really practiced and we do it every day yeah but um just funny so just something to keep in mind yeah that would make me so mad i know it would make me who would make it the most mad like not for kim she has so much money who cares and she like likes doing the show it's not about what you have it's about fairness and i feel like kim is actually somebody who like like i'm like a stickler for fairness i know but it's also like family fuck that like seriously show up for work bitch i have no resentment like everybody always asks like how do you and jackie split everything is 50 50 we put in the same amount of work but you know what if we did it i would be fucking mad i would yeah if we so you better keep up your 50 percent bitch year after year after year and like we go through phases where like if someone's having a quieter moment or needs yes no we go through phases where like i need you to pick up slack for me i need you need me to pick up slack for you.
That's being a partner. That is no problem.
And that all comes out in the wash and evens out. Yes.
But if there are years of me showing up in you, not like, bitch, 75, 25. Yeah, it's true.
I'm sorry. I'm a stickler for fairness.
Call me immature. I don't give a fuck.
Are you ready for our next story? I am. I'm getting like angry.
It's best we move on. Amanda Bynes has joined OnlyFans with a major caveat.
It's not, it's actually, the caveat helps. But anyway, she announced that she made an account on OnlyFans via her Instagram stories on Tuesday, telling her followers that she's excited to be connected with her fans through the new business venture.
I can see her just thinking like, this is a platform to connect with your fans. So this is what she said.
She said, I'm on Only i'm doing only fans to chat with my fans through dms i won't be posting any sleazy content excited to join slay not her like joining the platform destroying the platform in her caption and moving on with her day um i feel like we all talk about how we like love amanda binds we want to support amanda binds like here's an actual way she basically started a patreon right like you know you everybody says oh i love amanda binds buy her only fans yeah pay her help her and i do think only fans like wants to be a you know a subscription service for your faves like not just pornography there was a time a couple of years ago where only fans made like a really like directional pivot where they didn't want to be subscription just for sex work. They wanted to be subscription based content.
They wanted to compete with Patreon. They were reaching out to people like us to get us to move over from platforms like Patreon.
I don't think it worked. I think the stigma was just like far too great.
And they eventually just leaned into being a platform for pornography. Like didn't Rebecca Minkoff like do a fashion show on OnlyFans or something like that? They were trying.
Like, I don't remember that, but it sounds like, yeah, there was like a year long period where they really tried. I don't think it worked.
And they realized, listen, let's just lean in. We can make more money and just be what we are who we are.
Oh, no, she did her. Yeah, she debuted an OnlyFans account for New York Fashion Week.
And that was in 2021. So that feels right.
So that must have been the year. The year.
And I think they were right for that because it could like, we don't all have to go to separate places like for subscription creator content, though that's what we've all done. Right, because they all have their own sort of like reputation.
Like if you're a podcaster, you're more likely to go to Patreon. Patreon is for podcasters.
It's also for music. And true crime.
Well, I guess that's podcasting. Yeah.
The sub stack is for writer girls. Correct.
Even though you could technically, I think, have a podcast on sub stack. Like write articles on Patreon or only fans.
Yes. Right.
So they all have their own reputations and you just like go to the one that feels right for you but they only fans wasn't

wrong for trying but it was nobody wants to be associated with that like let's be real well

amanda bines wants to chat with her fans on only fans and i think that's that's a good idea like i

think that's great and if you've really been like thinking about like amanda bines and how you like

feel bad for like this is a great way to support it's like five dollars probably yeah i didn't get

that far and definitely like if you don't get the app and you do it through onlyfans.com you

Thank you. Amanda Bynes and how you like feel bad for like this is a great way to support it's like five dollars probably yeah I didn't get that far and definitely like if you don't get the app and you do it through onlyfans.com you could save some which you absolutely should yeah it seems like it doesn't say how much she's smart I gotta go there's no cost too great yeah well to support to support a childhood icon to support your faves correct are you ready for our next story? For? Yeah.
Some music news, even though Spotify is down. Because Morgan Wallen's new album is making some waves right now in terms of collaboration.
So first. And I feel like it comes up the heels of a conversation you and I had earlier this week.
Yes, but first for the known information. Morgan Wallen and Post Malone are teaming up for a new single called i coming back and that comes out on friday as part of his new oh i didn't hear that they have a great track record i listened like there was a snippet that he posted on the gram sounds amazing i'm very excited sounds even better than i had some help right their first collab was so good they can't make bad music together right sounds amazing.
But the streets are saying that he is also collabing with Tate McRae for his new album because she posted a photo that seems to hint towards a collab. It's a Tennessee orange jersey with a T and an eight on the front that said Tate and then a little logo at the top with his logo MW.
MW. And he had posted a couple of days ago being like,

I'm surprised nobody has guessed

who my female collab is with.

I've seen everybody talking about it

and nobody's guessed it right.

And I guess everybody guesses

the same people.

Megan Maroney, Carrie Underwood.

And who the fuck would guess Tate McRae?

So I actually think that was a clue

in and of itself.

And yes, her photo pretty much confirmed it.

Yeah, so that's very exciting.

We'll get a country version of

have they got no one thing?

Do you think that's like

Thank you. and of itself and yes her photo pretty much confirmed it yeah so that's very exciting we'll get a country version of do you think do you think that like could be exactly what she needs like you mean a hit yeah yeah like but i mean a global hit not global excuse me like a really big american hit like that's what morgan wallen does what meant to be was to bebe Rexha.
What the middle was to Maren Morris. Yeah.
Yeah, that's actually a really good point. I actually will be really.
I will be interested. I think it'll affect her a little bit because she comes from like the internet, which is like, you know, very, very woke.
And I've already seen people being like, oh, Tate is over party because like we don't fuck with Morgan Wallen. But I think it's a risk that you have to take because he's so big and so major.
And really, for her to finally get out of the box she has found herself in, she has to do something different. She has to do something big.
And this is actually a good call, but it is risky. Yeah, but Morgan Wallen is also so internet.
He's so internet. But a different side.
Yeah,, they're already on their phones. Let's check out Kate McRae.
Yes. She just risks a little bit alienating some of her like core audience, but she has to shake it up Chicago in some way.
I think this is a great idea. I don't think she will alienate that many people with this.
I mean, look at Post Malone. Everybody is working with Morgan Wallen.
He's the biggest hit maker. Of course, men can get away 1000 and like he's doing stadium turns like he has fans like maybe it it's not gonna you're not gonna be the darling of the grammys but like right if you want to sell music and you want to perform for actual people call morgan wallen no i think this is gonna be really good for her i'm excited for me because what I've needed.
Yes, you've kind of been saying what needs to be said.

And I've been waiting for Tate McCray to pop off because she's my kind of girl.

She's your kind of woman.

If the hits aren't there, there's only so much I can do.

I read a blind item that said Morgan Wallen is dating his son's nanny.

That's really cute.

That's like the sound of music.

Yeah, like an au pair.

He's dating Maria. It's different when he's dating the sound of music yeah like an au pair he's dating maria

it's different when like he's dating the au pair you know like the wording but i love that well that's also because an au pair i know it sounds fancy but au pairs are typically younger women i didn't realize that until i learned what an au pair was outside of the movie au pair I thought that an op yeah of course i thought that an au pair was like a caretaker who also was like a tutor like a governess like fancy and more expensive you would think spoke more languages yeah so no it's actually like a younger person um woman let's get real a younger woman let's get real um who it's like almost like an internship sort of like they actually don't get paid they like get experience oh well i like it doesn't happen a lot but like with annoying fancy people in the city like every now and then you'll meet someone who refers to like their child's caretaker like as an au pair no and they definitely have like an educational background but i'm pretty sure they are being paid less because they're getting like the experience okay so i need to hire so i need to hire an au pair yeah and then you get to also say you have an au pair right like nobody knows you're cheap because you look fancy with your au pair but i do think a governess is what you thought an au pair was yes fancy teacher pricey they teach you manners yeah no but like they're they're more expensive a nanny, where actually I think an au pair is less. And an au pair also gives pied-à-terre energy.
Like, you have an apartment. You have an apartment.
Yeah. We have a pied-à-terre in the city.
Oh, so you have a condo? Yeah, you have a condo. Me too.
So do I. But you don't live there full-time.
So, when you have an apartment in another city, like, you just have an apartment. Like, oh, I have a place in Manhattan like oh I have a place in Manhattan place when people say I have a pied-a-terre just know if I ever get a pied-a-terre I am gonna call it one at every turn you mean if you ever get a place in Manhattan if I ever get a place in the city and I'm not living there full time yeah I will be having a pied-a-terre.
And will your au pair be there as well?

No, au pair, dumb is not for me.

I heard a really funny story from my neighbor and it was just like, okay.

Oh my God, it was so funny if your neighbor said it.

It was really funny.

I think I've told you it before

with like the cigarettes and the pool and the selfies.

No.

Oh, it's really funny.

It sounds like a crazy story.

Are you going to share it or no?

No, no, no, no. Okay.
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Thank you, Coach.

You're welcome.

Our fifth and final story is a little sisterly podcasting news.

And it's not about us.

It never is.

Ilona Marr and her sisters have started a podcast together. Oh, cute.
Called House of Marr. Love, love, love.
You know what? I just found out something about her other sister. Which one? Adriana or Olivia? Olivia.
The cook? Okay. Do you know the viral sound? Girl dinner.
No, but I know what a girl dinner is. That's Olivia.
That came from one of her videos. She literally invented like a viral term phrase.
That bodes well for a podcaster. A thousand percent.
You have to have a lot of phrases. You have to have a lot of viral terms.
You would love it. You're really swirly? No.
Party? Really burnt. Really burnt.

Anyway, Alona and her sisters Adriana and Olivia are putting their fun chemistry on display with the release of their brand new podcast, House of Mar.

Love it, by the way.

Me too.

In the podcast, the sister-

If I had a one-syllable last name, the opportunities for branding are endless.

What about House of Shrey?

We've been doing this. If I had a like one syllable last name, like the opportunities for branding are endless.
What about House of Shrey? Right. It doesn't work.
I like House of Shrey. Yeah, I know.
So do I. I wonder if they'll get podcasting tips from their uncle, Bill Maher.
No, they're not related. No, not that I know of.
No, they're not. What are the odds, though? In the podcast, they'll be discussing everything from Alona's life, plus some broader topics in the realm of athletics and pop culture.
I mean, classic stuff. Is this like a grassroots podcast? Is it in partnership? Are they on a network or something? I mean, I can look that up on the podcast app, but not on Spotify because it's down.
Not on Spotify. But they did put out their first episode with Alan, her Dancing with the Stars partner.
Oh, people must have loved that. She reunited with Alan Burstyn.
I know people were excited about that. It's with Wave Originals.
Oh, that's who does. Not gonna lie.
New Heights and Not Gonna Lie with Kels. Oh, they love athletes.
New Heights moved over, right? They got a big Amazon deal, but it was a wave original. Okay, so they like an athletic podcast, which is definitely a safe bet.
No, that bodes really well for the Marr sisters. Yeah, they do really premium content.
Like Kylie's clips are always getting spread wide and far. Yeah.
They've actually put out a few episodes so far. They've done four, and so now they're doing a little bit of press they're talking about dream guests um their dream guest is actually heim so like i don't love that but me neither that's first of all too many people on a podcast they're exciting because it's like three sisters and three sisters and they also said anyone with sisters you're in what about sisters and a podcast what about it um no i love this i actually think that's really smart it kind of feels like it could be a female version of new heights yeah and it sounds like you know they have potential they've got they've got what it takes alona does rugby olivia's cooking adriana is in the non-profit space okay but she's actually i'm not dying to hear podcasts about nonprofits.
I just want to say she did say I'm in the nonprofit humanitarian space. I don't maybe have a lot of guests from that space.
But I also have a lot of music interests and I would love to have some musical artists. So I love the self-awareness.
Yeah, me too, me too, me too. Listen, we are not our jobs.
Yeah. Yeah.
Let's dive into the TV recap recap Part 3 of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Was actually quite boring Yeah, oh my god, the fact that we were talking about Augusta in part 3 Oh my god, dark Like I so was Like my eyes were glazing over For me, the only real redemption from the episode Was that I have my weenie of the week Like I'm calling it now honestly Garcelle such a gross overreaction like I get that she definitely felt bad right like she felt alienated and she made it seem like she was mad at everyone when the only person she really has a right to be mad at is Sutton like Sutton basically had her back towards Garcelle the whole time like Sutton has decided to make it work with these women not be on an island yeah not be. And even when they went around and was like, what is your biggest, you know, whatever they do at the end.
Surprise. They ask like a question.
Do a question, by the way. It's a bad question.
Nobody can answer it. Garcelle's was about Sutton.
Like, Garcelle has no identity on this show outside of Sutton and Sutton jumping ship. Like, it must be devastating.
But her getting mad at everyone not doing the cast photo and being like, I'm pissed as hell right now. literally nobody cared like when when like she chimed in they asked her about something else and she was like I don't care I'm pissed as hell right now they're like about Sutton they're like she's like no about me and nobody even cared like she really demonstrated unfortunately true weenie like behavior and I'm actually now convinced there was a rumor after the reunion ended um in real life like when they taped it, she had posted something on her Instagram saying not all skin folk are kin folk.
And people just pretty much assumed that that was Bo's not having her back at the reunion. Bo's was asked about it.
And she was like, no, I didn't think that was about me. Like if Garcelle had a problem with me, she would have told me like we're cool.
And I actually thought that was a good answer on Bo's. I'm like, oh, definitely not.
I think that Bo's taking Dorit's side in the robbery thing like was what started Garcelle's meltdown of the day. And I do think it was actually about Bose.
Yeah, I something caused her to melt down before lunch. And I'm sure she had a feeling maybe just this feeling that we couldn't see because we're paying attention to seven different people.
Like we're not just seeing how everything affects you, where she just felt like other people were quicker to resolution and other people were giving each other more grace and not towards her but like you can't be this like big bad bitch in your confessionals you talk so much shit like you're like and it's funny and we all love it and you get so much like love for it and then same for the fans and then you come on the reunion and you have nothing to say and you want to run away crying like that is weenie behavior Sutton did the same thing but like at least Sutton is taking the w and she's going into the next season the difference is is that Sutton has a very small but she has something with the other women like she has a friendship a history Garcelle has not had one real connection on this show outside of Sutton. So it's, yeah, she says terrible things that you'd want to make up with her.
For what reason? She's not really your friend. There's not like the history.
Like Sutton and Kyle have a history. Sutton and Kyle are friends.
Sutton lived in her house. Sutton and Erica, like they see each other.
There's similarities. There's something that they can't quit with one another.
There is a meaningful. Sutton and Dorit don't have that.
But with Sutton and Dorton and the hatred that Sutton and Dorit have Garcelle has with everyone else right there's nothing tying these women to Garcelle there is things tying them to Sutton which is why she's like this sort of like necessary evil catch and release she's in she's out Garcelle has really not made a meaningful friendship with any of them besides Sutton and now Sutton's like out on her so I can understand why she felt so alienated but it didn't look that bad and she looks like a weenie she does because nobody was really taking like hits at her or anything and she didn't even have a bad reunion like yeah I was like what are we so upset about if anybody could storm off it's Sutton like yeah she just took it no and also like to read had a hard reunion like answering everything i mean she handled it so well but like you would think if someone doesn't want to be in the cast photo like they just like taken a pummeling and like i'm done but garcelle had a very uneventful reunion and the things that upset her happened so early in the day and the fact that she couldn't like move past them when like shake it that's a requirement of the job like you have to have a short memory you have to be forgiving otherwise we'll be stuck in these fights forever I mean like I if this were my actual personal life I don't think I could do that like if someone knows something nasty to me once I will remember that forever like you will never have my love and trust again but like there's just that unspoken rule with these women so to hold on to that for what eight hours when it what the original sin like wasn't even anything crazy it was just like they vehemently disagreed with her about the robbery thing right which by the way was such a polarizing thing to say you have to be able to withstand if you're gonna say something that crazy like there's gonna be backlash yeah and she thinks because like she's doubled down that that's her taking accountability like sudden didn't double down on the poor comment at the reunion like no, she didn't. She said that was wrong and I apologize.
So like you have to move forward from there. But like if you were going to sit there, why am I seriously going to forge a friendship with someone who thinks that either I or my husband faked a robbery for insurance money, did a horrible crime and now wants to put me on blast on national television? Why would they ever even make any sort of reproachment with one another at the reunion? Now, I guess another big thing that happened at the reunion was for the first time maybe ever, we got a little bit of clarity on Kyle's sexuality, right? Yeah.
She didn't outright say, she said, I didn't come out because Andy compared his, but she did. And she's questioning.
She's questioning. And that's the cue.
And yeah, yes it is. I think that her and Morgan are still seeing one another.
I know that she has like a complicated relationship with Kathy. But she was being really rude to Kathy.
Being like, can you just not talk right now? Like Kathy was actually adding levity and and being helpful and I think Kathy knows a lot more than the other women and I didn't think she was being harmful at all no not at all and I think she was like adding levity and giving Kyle many outs and then yeah being like no I want to talk about it it's like okay well don't be surprised that none of us thought you would want to talk be in the hot seat because you know and by the way you do want to talk about it but but you don't say a lot of like clear things. Yeah, because she's unclear in how she feels.
And yes, I just it's really crazy that she can't answer the question. Like, do you want to get back together with Mo? Well, because I think she does and he doesn't.
That was that was the vibe that I got. That made me really sad.
You say I want to. Even if he doesn't, it's not like he said yet.
Like what? Why? maybe you don't want to be the first one to say it you know i guess like dorit said it well they hate each other her and mauricio like still have like a good friendship and they're co-parenting like she wants to stay with pk right but she also said she's thinking about dating well because pk doesn't want to stay with her so yeah i'm not going to stay here forever but like if i had my druthers i want to stay together i thought it was interesting also that kathy said that she hopes they get back together i would have expected her to say the opposite i thought she fucking me too because literally they didn't talk for years because of no and she does eat him she's always clowning on everything he says and does she like called him poor and she called him old and ugly she also has a weird nickname for him what i don't know she called Not Moe. Maurice? Something weird.
She called him Maurice. I'm like, who is she talking about? Yeah.
That's just Kathy. She's so fucking funny.
Like, I'm sorry. I just love her.
We need more of her, actually. Oh, when Andy was like, wow, Nikki and Paris are allies.
That was so funny. I was cracking up.
She was like,

I told my girls and they didn't care.

And it was supposed to be

like this big thing

and Andy was like,

obviously.

No, and it's like,

you told them,

did she tell them

that she might be a lesbian

or that they're anti?

No, Andy misunderstood

that their anti

like is questioning

her sexuality.

Yeah.

And they literally didn't care.

Her 45-year-old nieces,

progressive nieces.

Right, who live in Hollywood. Didn't mind.
Didn't care. Ah old nieces progressive right who live in hollywood didn't mind didn't care like it's so stupid um they need a shake up i saw a rumor about a rumored new cast member i hadn't heard of her this something needs to happen yeah we definitely need to like slot someone in for garcelle but i i think in general the cast is good I think Sutton is still

on such thin ice and so um unpredictable that there's plenty there I think between Kyle and Dorit going through a lot in their personal lives like there's it's not I don't think the well has run dry but it's always good to have fresh bread like look what Bose has done for done for the show. Yeah.
My queen. My queen.
She was so fabulous. I am strong.
She was so fabulous. Like she crushed her first reunion.
She was low-key like a part of a lot of conversations. It's hard for the first time.
Sometimes you're not in any of it. Like we forget you're there.
No, no. And I just love her friendship with Dorit.
Yeah. And when Dorit was like what was surprising surprising is that I've made a friend for life.
Like, that was really sweet. And I just love to see, like, Bo's, Erica, and Dorit, like, all on the same couch.
All, like. Dweem team.
Dweem team. Exactly.
I love Erica. And I look forward to the future for her.
Me too. She was also very lucid.
Very. She was tough, but she was strong.
And, like, I thought she had a great showing as well at the reunion yeah she did now the valley my first like foray let me tell you i enjoyed it so much um especially because like i know and it's now like a lot of it is jackson britney and i've obviously been on the jackson britney train like my whole life um so i know the key players and i really enjoyed it it does have like remember she knows always talking about janet we're like who's Janet and by the way Zach's comment about Janet like Janet is so right for being mad and like I'm glad she got up in the middle of the conversation with Kristen like Kristen didn't say it so it's not her problem but her inability to condemn it yeah when he was especially when she's yeah and she's going through her own fertility journey like I'm so team janet yeah no i'm team janet like not so strongly because like i and a lot of it is like unknown like we don't know who's lying did janet say the thing about michelle or the thing is i don't care anymore because the miscarriage thing was like to me that's the pie now like that's so crazy no and what janet said to kristen like oh i'm sorry for like looping you in with the demonic comment your friend made like that is an apology yeah she apologized and then and then kristen like couldn't get there and so she just got up and i actually really respected janet now this toxic couple well they're divorced now jesse and nia is that their name no jesse and michelle and michelle oh my god i hate them both like i don't I don't take a side. He is a Jax Taylor in the making.
Like he is so toxic and he's very manipulative. Like you can see he came in with this conversation about the kids schooling in Orange County and he wanted to like make her sick and he like remained cool, calm and collected and obviously she didn't and like made her look crazy.
Like he's fucking evil for sure. Yeah, that was, that really gave me a pin and then when he was like in his confessional, no, I don to move to the OC of course like he's evil he's literally evil yeah he does have Jax Taylor vibes but he is like more refined and like well-spoken what does he do for a living I think he does real estate I'm just assuming because like everyone does that you know he hides it better than Jax yeah yeah like which is scary yeah yeah makes him scarier last season they were like separated the whole season well they won't they even though it very much seemed like they wouldn't stay together and now they're divorcing they both have new partners and i just wish that like why can't you just be peaceful like that person was at one point your family like can't you just like i know have love for them and want So while I hate him, I don't champion her.
Like she's a tough one to get behind.

Like. was at one point your family like can't you just I know have love for them and want so while I hate him I don't champion her like she's a tough one to get behind like she is she's very closed off we don't know her that well even though she's a main cast member she doesn't she shares like she'll answer questions but like we just don't know her personality that well maybe she doesn't maybe she's like a quiet person but I just couldn couldn't say that like, I know what's on her heart.
I couldn't say that I do. I feel like I know what's on like Nia's heart.
Brittany's heart. I love Brittany.
I feel so bad for her. I wonder, they keep referring to like when he found the text on the iPad and the fact that her and Cruz moved into an Airbnb because Jax wouldn't get his badass up out of the house, like just really proves what she's up against, you know? And they're working on things, maybe getting back together.
And he goes through and finds a text message. And there's obviously some sort of altercation.
They don't say what it is. He like flips a table and her knee is black.
Right. Those are the details.
But they're talking about it very vaguely. Like, but in big terms, like Tom Schwartz being like, man, you can't.
That gave me such a pit. And one of my toxic Bravo traits is I've always been a Jax apologist.
I see the good in Jax. It's dwindling the goodness, and this is really indefensible.
It just made me really sad for her. And she's so positive and funny and southern and sweet but like she deals with a lot.
Yeah. And she's been dealing with a lot.
Like what she's been living with and now we know that he is a drug addict and an alcoholic. Right.
Narcissist. Those things.
It wasn't just like when they would go out to the Mondrian. Like it's every day and it's every night.
And like then his behavioral issues are heightened and it's just a nightmare. And I agree like because we've always had pleasant experiences with jacks like i've always in a personal way to just say like you know he's really nice to us but we've literally spent a total of like two hours with him like anyone can pretend to be anything in that time a thousand percent the fact that he can't like stop being an awful person for the sake of his son when he knows he's like i'm going to raise like a child this this is who my kid is going to turn into and he knows all these things and he physically can't stop being the worst yep at 45 years old unacceptable so yeah there's nothing else for him to do other than go to rehab and like now we know present day he's like 90 100 days sober i hope that it sticks but i, but I don't know if a person at his age can change.

Can change.

It's such a good point.

I really don't know.

Maybe without like drugs and alcohol, you do change.

But he, it's mental too.

At some point you are who you are.

Yeah.

He is just like that intense of a person.

Yeah.

I'm really enjoying the show.

It's good.

It really is like Vanderpump Rules grown up. Yes.
And I'm actually really excited to see Sheena and Tom Schwartz and how they fit in. Like.
Yeah. Lala.
I think they'll fit in nicely. But like Sheena was at the premiere.
They're acting like they're on the show. So.
Maybe it'll be like a slow blending which is good too. Give us Lala.
Okay. It's been long enough without her.
And of i'm excited for her and bra in summer moon and the gang yeah they're perfect for this gang yeah no they are and like even the way it's filmed like they go to restaurants and they talk the crap and then they go and have the dinner and it's like the same template but it really works and i think like seeing them with like young kids and just some of the things that are actually relatable that they like the yes Danny and Mia their son not having a room last so they live in an apartment and last season they were like looking at houses and he keeps talking about Santa Clarita Santa Clarita no plus they're on the show called the valley now like move to the valley but I also really like that's why it reminds me of Vanderpump Rules that they all like live in small apartments like none of them are super wealthy you know but they all live in like homes in the valley except for danny and nia well i guess oh i said they all lived kristin lives in an apartment kristin lives in an apartment like jackson britney are in a house michelle and jason have their house janet and jay no michelle and jason now both live in condos no michelle jason is in their house still he is yeah remember he talked to kristin outside it's so embarrassing like the fact that a man would make the mother and the kid move out. Now two men on the same show.
Yeah. It is the it is top tier most disgraceful behavior I've ever ever seen in my life.
The home is the woman's domain. Of course it is.
Get the fuck out bitch. Yeah.
But I think she's just so ready to be rid of him. She's got like her new man.
Right. Right.
She's probably like living with him. Like goodbye.
Yeah. Yeah.
Janet and Mr. Janet live in.
Because like, oh, by the way, Michelle's husband is, I do this every time I talk about ballet. Michelle's husband is Jesse.
We keep calling him Jason. That's what I said.
I didn't. And Janet's husband is Jason.
And then we have Js i don't think i need to learn janet's husband's name do you know what i mean except it's like it seems like this season like kristin is slinging allegations against him okay maybe then i'll learn his name and takes his ring off i seriously don't believe that for one second yikes i don't believe that and then also like the drama like danny and me are like are as perfect as they seem and like so happy and so cute and so attractive um so attractive right and he's from hannah montana he's like i carly oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he's got that face and he's like a voice actor he's a working actor good for him and she's a former pageant. Oh, and when she was talking about like her body and how she wants to like have all her kids and have her body back, like, she's just like so, even last season she was like breastfeeding and crying all the time.
Yeah, I think that's also why I like the show is that there aren't a lot of shows that are reflective of this particular life stage where like you have young kids, you're still growing your family, but you still like want to have fun and go out and be with your friends. and so I feel like it's actually reflective of an era that I'm entering and I actually really like it.
No it's nice like Jan it's maybe doing tummy time like it is there aren't shows like it and I expected I would like the show because of that because it's like capturing this time in your life that I'm currently in and that is one of my favorite parts about it now all the like going out and stuff I can't relate you can't relate yeah a lot of the conversations and like how the women are are and how they feel and I find it a really nice to watch so there's heart there there is heart there and I'm looking forward to this ride and that will be our new Thursday recap because Beverly Hills is over. It's only Wednesday?

Oh my God, seriously, somebody killed me.

I'm sorry, this episode was a whole day.

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