The Power of Fresh Undies: Friday, April 11th, 2025

The Power of Fresh Undies: Friday, April 11th, 2025

April 11, 2025 1h 8m S8E67
  1. Alix and Ashtin Earle Are All Smiles on Vogue Turkiye Cover on National Siblings Day (SI Swimsuit) (26:32)
  2. Eric Dane to begin filming 'Euphoria' Season 3 just 4 days after announcing ALS diagnosis (Page Six) (32:10)
  3. Justin Bieber quits Drew House fashion brand on heels of bizarre paparazzi meltdown (Page Six) (36:32)
  4. Gwyneth Paltrow, 52, admits she regrets 'not having more kids' (Page Six) (41:53)
  5. Dove Cameron Joins Dax Shepard on Armchair Expert (50:45)


  • Queenie and Weenie of The Week (59:21)


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Hey, Jax. Hey, Turdy Lou.
Hey, Turdy List. Good morning.
Happy Friday. Happy Friday's, you guys.
We did it. It's very exciting.
This one is an earned Friday, don't you find? Yes. I cannot believe that this week was like White Lotus was like a week ago.
It was this particular week. You know, exactly.
Our merch launch, like I was because I was combing through the week to do Queenie and Weenie. And I was like, damn, a lot happened this week.
I have worked hard. It's been a week.
Correct. I have worked hard too.
Redheads came out yesterday. Finally.
It's worth it. Finally.
We're seriously hysterical. I really enjoyed editing it.
So take a listen to that after you listen to this. Whether you read the book or not, it actually doesn't matter because it's a book of short stories.
And I was really shook to find out that the Redheads chose a Lucy scorebook for next month, not to spoil it. No, it's not a spoiler.
Next month is Margo's choice. And I said, Sachi, do your worst.
Like I want classic Satch. I was like, pick whatever like romance novel you'd be reading next.
It's kind of like what we need. And and I know it's what you love to read and don't feel like you have to pick something for the redheads like intellectual we want a snitch's choice it is time especially after what we read and she provided I will be reading my first Lucy score book will be your first my first I've never read Lucy score wait you didn't things in which we hide from the light? You never read that one? Wait, that's really crazy.
That wasn't like, like such a classic book. Everybody read that book.
I missed out on Miss Score. So this will be my first foray into the score's world.
Oh, you're not ready. She's like really crazy.
It's so crazy. Not that I'm going to read Lucy's score is that we have to talk about it at a book club.
And I feel like it's like all sex. So like, what are we going to be talking about? So Lucy Square does a good job of maintaining some level.
It's not like the most plot driven. There is a story, but sometimes you read like a romance novel that's seriously like these two people are just talking so that they can have sex.
Like there's no plot whatsoever. And that's where it's like hard to read romance novels because you're forsaking one for the other.
It's like either it's really good smut or really good plot. It's like what happened to both? Lucy Squire is definitely up there with doing it well.
That's like Tessa Bailey. Yes.
It's not the most compelling book you'll ever read. But like it's cute and sweet.
And she does good world building. She finds like random places.
I don't know where this one takes place. But she's always like taking you to cute little towns.
Okay, I love that. And I feel like the Redheads community, like we need a little, like we need a reprieve.
100%. And I'm actually really excited to just take a left turn with the Satch because nobody does it like the Redheads.
But then you have to like sit and talk about sex with your sister. Right.
That's what I'm saying will be interesting how we do the book club. You know, you know what? I won't be sitting and talking about sex with my sister.
Correct. So it'll be interesting.
Especially like your little, little sister. My tiny baby sister.
No. Do I look different? Yes.
Why? You're wearing a pad. Yes a pad yes oh my god you seriously are like so crazy the way you know my brain jackie sent me a gift yesterday she's been telling me like i gotta get on the sanitary napkin game like she's actually been telling me that since before i got pregnant she's like you know all about bleeding out as opposed to using tampons but one in periods we and when you guys aren't ready for that conversation no we are not we are using tampons please One in periods.
And you guys aren't ready for that conversation. No, we are not.
We are using tampons, please. And true enlightenment is realizing that tampons stink.
But Jackie talks about them a lot in pregnancy. And she's like been kind of begging me, especially because I've been complaining about how like underwear in pregnancy is disposable at this point.
It's so annoying to have to change so many times a day. Jackie was like, get a pad, get a pad, get a pad.
And I was just explaining, like, when I think of pads, I think of, like, my first period, you know, and, like, the big, thick wings, like, the big, thick, like, literally, they look like old cell phones. Like, they're huge.
Old native type ones. Yeah.
And Jackie's like, you have to, you know, deconstruct everything you think you know about pads because they've made enormous strides. There are really thin ones and whatever.
And I was like, which one? She was like, you know what? I'll send you like an Instacart. Like I'll get them on Target or whatever and I'll send them to your house.
I was like, great. I had forgotten that we had that conversation and this big bag of snacks shows up at my house.
My building's always delivering like the wrong things to the wrong people. I'm like, we got someone's Target delivery and I opened it up.
I'm like, so crazy that this person who ordered snacks, like has the same exact taste in snacks as me. Baked glaze, baked ruffles, sour cream and cheddar, bagel bites, Kit Kat, like so me.
I'm like, that's so crazy. And I was literally about to put it back outside.
And then I saw the pads. I'm like, wait, this is for me.
This is my plate. Literally.
And Jackie was just being like so sweet. It was her way of like coercing me into really believing the the the magic of pads so i'm wearing a pad today i've only been wearing it for like an hour it's uncomfortable like it's just like this little it's like a dick between your legs like i feel like a man like it's just this big thing but you know tampons are oh tampons i never know i'm wearing literally a dick between your legs okay no that tampon is like a dick in your vagina

yeah but a pad is like a dick hanging between your legs well let me know how it goes today i asked claudia to um do it for a day and block it she's we're not doing that oh my god it was this joke like no but i said what i will do what i will do is when i'm done with it i will peel it off and stick it to the frame.

Yeah, because it's nice to have like

a fresh nether

region. do what I will do is when I'm done with it I will peel it off and stick it to the frame yeah because it's nice to have like a fresh nether region every time you go to the bathroom or every two like you know how it is when you're pregnant there's a lot going on and like it's you don't even it's not it shouldn't be a concern of yours and I actually fell into that lifestyle necessity was the mother of invention because of my circlage surgery and I was on progesterone which if you've been on vaginal progesterone, like, you know.
So I started wearing pads. And then even when I didn't need anymore, I was like, I like this.
It feels like a fresh pair of undies. Friendies.
You love friendies. I do love it.
Like, there's actually no greater joy in life than like either feeling gross or being out all day. You take a shower and you put on a frondie, like a fresh undie if it's like a granny panty uh there's there's no joy in life comparable i agree i think you're gonna like the diaper phase of things too i'll keep you posted you guys know i will yeah but keep me posted thank you for trying something new even if you don't like it like i appreciate you listening to your big sister and being open finally finally so let's see how it goes.
But you beautiful with your pad on thank you so much your eyes I think you might you might be seeing the pad bring out my eyes or I did do something also really crazy yesterday that might have shifted the way that I look sure I went to acupuncture yeah and was it everything everyone says no like Nobody told you like to prepare for being so bored I should have sent you an advanced copy of the redheads totally and people were like so I posted an Instagram story from acupuncture just being like I'm so bored and everyone was like you have to put your phone away like it completely defeats the purpose like part of the treatment is like the mindfulness and like really committing to just like opening up your body to receive the moxibustion or whatever so I'm like thinking now I wasted my time you know and I have two appointments next week so I will go in like more mindful you a lot of people listen to podcasts they read so I'll come a little bit more prepared maybe a playlist well she was like can I put on music for you and I was like was going to say like Taylor Swift. She was like, nature sounds okay.
And I was like, oh yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, maybe not Taylor Swift, but I'm sure we could think of an artist.
Yeah, no, I need to bring my AirPods. I brought my phone into.
You need Lewis Capaldi. I just need something.
It was like 45 minutes. Don't worry, Claudia.
We'll turn your baby. We better.
We literally better. Me and my $200 an hour acupuncture.
Like, if this baby doesn't turn, he's going to owe me money. The amount of money I'm spending on, like, this nonsense, it better fucking work.
Yeah, it's all the money you're saving on a crib. No, literally, Jackie, the baby's going to come out and I'm going to have an iPad.
Like, would you like to tip 10 15 20 percent whoa jerse that's a wrong attitude no I know I know I'm actually like having like different I'm on a roller coaster of emotions when it comes to the breech baby you're lying no when it comes to this topic in particular like some days I'm like so beat down about it like last night I was so upset and then today I'm like you know what whatever will be will be yeah trust the process and whatever it will be will be and you have a lot of time still for any it happens in a second right in an instant right no it doesn't actually so I keep asking people no one's been able to give me a straight answer like when your baby flips does he literally do a somersault and it's over um will I feel it so the acupuncturist said and it was the best explanation that I've heard so far so I choose to believe her. She's like, it's very gradual.
So any movements are good. Like he's not like that mobile.
He can't do a full flip. Like you're slowly turning and like making the belly.
Yeah. So any movement is good.
And he was moving a lot during acupuncture. So she said babies really like acupuncture.
And she didn't lie about that either. So I'm like a believer.
I'm not super skeptic. Okay.
Keep us posted. So that's something that happened yesterday.
Something that happened today is our last day to eat bread. I wanted to remind you because, you know, a lot of the snacks that you gave me were hummates.
I have to just like house them today. What about the chips? Their potato.
Yeah. But like the Kit Kats.
Wafer. Rats.
Wafer. Rats.
And technically the popcorn. Popcorn.
I would eat popcorn. I'm not strict about passover like maybe i should be more ashamed but i don't know why like a lot of times like i feel guilt about you know certain things in judaism and that compels me to follow it no matter you know like even if i don't want right yom kippur guilt is a powerful emotion yeah yeah and i'm very driven by guilt and passover first i'll you know i'm not gonna eat a bread that's rude you're not particularly moved by it.
Yeah, and I'm very driven by guilt. And Passover, you know, I'm not going to eat a bread.

That's rude.

You're not particularly moved by it.

Yeah, I'm not super strict with it.

I would 100% eat popcorn.

Maybe not on the first day.

Yeah, right.

Of course, the rules change with each day that passes.

It's true.

But, you know, and I also have those matzahs that I'm eyeing in my cupboard.

So I'm actually not dreading Passover. But just make sure to, like, go hard today in the paint.
That's true. I should have made a pargy loaf.
I don't know why, because Passover, I knew it was this week. I was like, oh, you know, put the starter away.
I threw away my starter because I have, like, discard in the fridge. No.
And I should have made one more pargy loaf. But I guess it takes me, like, a few days to eat it.
So I would have had to, like, a lot of loaf. No, today is like this week in particular and today is the day like we're going hard.
OK, that's a good point. I'm going to go out to dinner tonight, but not in a hummus sort of way.
I was going to get steak, which I could do anytime. You should think about things.
Yeah, maybe pivot to an Italian restaurant. It's also coachella weekend yay i actually am really looking forward to being a content consumer i don't know if you know like alex earl and her sister took a private jet and they're like staying in this insane mansion i don't know if it's a partnership yet it's a good question she's pretty good about uploading her tiktok to reels but you know the algorithm will serve you in a few days.
Make sure, if you're looking for things to watch this weekend, like check her out.

I'm having the best time.

I need her to post more content.

Her and her sister are like, seriously, my favorite content creators right now.

And they're just like crushing it.

So like, yeah, take that private jet.

Have you decided who's the Jackson, who's the Claude yet?

No, I was watching their vlog this morning, actually. And I'm sure we have it as a story that they're on the cover of Folk.

Oh, turkey. So digital.
I actually. And I'm sure we have it as a story that they're on the cover of Folk.
Oh, turkey.

So, digital.

I'm kidding.

I'm totally kidding.

I was watching.

We do have it as a story.

So if you want to just like.

I was trying to get their personalities from the vlog behind the scenes.

And how did that go?

Where they filmed it.

And it was good.

I feel like I still don't really know.

Maybe I'm just, maybe I don't see myself in either of them or you. Yeah.
We'll have to dig deeper. Do you know what I did last night? Something I said I was going to do.
And on my content plate, something I watched. Nobody wants us.
Paul American. My God, of all the things for you to cross off your list.
We didn't need you to that you did claudia it's so amazing really i watched two episodes i think there might be three so far because i know like the next one's the gender reveal oh my god i was crying i was crying when nina like crying tears when nina found out she was pregnant and she's sharing it with logan it was oh and when he facetimed his mom oh my god and like she has these like two sons and they're such like big dope stars at one point that you would never be a grandma yeah yeah for sure oh my god she just like was speechless it was so cute i like the show so much it's so real the first episode is all about um pitching the show it's like what they filmed it's all about the show they have a family meeting talking about if they should have a reality show nina doesn't want to do the show because she wants to get pregnant and she doesn't want she wants to be relaxed in her pregnancy yeah and I also thought it was because she was like you know highbrow and like you know everything she's done is like so legit and traditional media and like you know oh that's so funny I don't see her that way oh my god I so see her that way as like so A-list so cool like unt like untouchable. And she's so not what you would think she is.

Like in the same way, Lexi is like so sweet with a face like that.

Like same with Nina Agdell.

Oh my God.

She's laughing all the time.

Everything Logan says, she can't stop laughing, like crying, laughing.

She's so down to earth.

So is Jake's girlfriend, now fiance.

Yes.

She's the speed skater.

She's like an Olympic speed skater.

Jewels something.

Yudda.

It's not Yudda, but it's Yudda.

Oh my God.

I follow her on social media.

I've never heard her name said out loud yada she's great too and nina eventually does get on board for the show but it's really funny they're very real um and their family is just like so crazy and like nina act just in the middle of it like she dated leo she walked like it's just crazy i guess like she did date leo that's really crazy but they're they're so in love same with jake and yada like it's so amazing how they talk about each other um the show is so i love so many aspects of the show because i think they're fascinating and they're so impressive and they like make so much money very interesting and they just like they're perfect for a reality show he's just like in the car trading crypto and made two million dollars in the car ride like they shit money it's really enjoyable so jealous however what's funny is like their bread and butter and the things that they got famous for and like what they do their content is so not for me like no not at all when they're doing like their paul brother saying like the pranking and like you know logan flies a drone do they still do that like a little bit because that's who they are as brothers they're just like on what i'm saying like on what content where do they put it sometimes they're doing content but also just on the show so like they're at like a lake house and yada and jake are on a

canoe in the lake and logan flies a drone over them is like swatting at them and jake takes an

oar and like like bashes it into the water and the drone is still working in the water they're

watching the fish and then a bunch they also each live with like 20 guys which i can't so crazy which is so crazy i don't think logan does because nina lives with him right but jake does because yada and him are still long distance because she's training for the olympics um all these they get like search and rescue they're all in the water looking for the drone like it's just like it's so male humor content.'s very it's very male focused so like I'm not their target demo but I really really like the show and there's a lot of love but there's also like a lot of craziness like the way they have such a love-hate relationship it's really the two of them the two of them and I guess in the past like when they were in LA it was really yes there was very bad Alyssa Violet yes exactly I didn't know about this I thought it was all like bad. Yes, it was very bad.
Alyssa Violet. Yes, exactly.
I didn't know about this. I thought it was all like staged for YouTube, but it was very real.
Like it started off as that and then it bled into real life because how can you not take offense at these things? Right. And they just like hated each other.
And now they have a really great relationship, but they still really get under each other's skin. Like Logan, like just is constantly putting Jake down just because he thinks he's a

truth sayer.

Like he's like,

I'm not just going to like,

even on his podcast,

he was like,

kind of like tough love.

He,

on his podcast,

he was joking about Jake fighting Mike Tyson.

Like,

you know,

who are you going to find next?

Muhammad Ali.

And Jake calls me.

He's like,

you're delegitimizing the fight bro.

Like we need people to watch it.

It's true.

Jake's right.

You could say that to Jake's face and like around friends, but not publicly. So like they're getting, they're so much better in terms of like

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And then whoever is going to win, that's the gender. Right.
Like they're so crazy. That's very funny.
That's like so extravagant. They're so extravagant.
They are. Something that I want to check off my list to do today, especially since it's before Passover.
I don't know if you saw that the Kardashians did a collab with Crumble Cookie did where like crumble has like six new cookies they release every week like new flavors and this week it's six Kardashian cookies Kylie Kendall Chloe Chris Kim and Courtney all did their own flavors I've seen everyone talking about on social media like I really want to try it I keep like wanting to try crumble I haven't I've actually had a bite of like a crumble cookie but I've never like you know done the whole experience where you like try all six of the week. And I feel like this is my week.

Yeah, it looks a little nauseating. Well, it's very personal cookie flavors.
And Courtney is getting a lot of shit for doing a flourless chocolate cake. Like they also they do cookies, but some of their cookies are also like cakes.
They're mini cakes. But I don't know.
Chris's is a cake. Like after you're in your sugar coma from kylie's sprinkle cookie frosted topped sprinkle cookie you know that that's the one that i want oh my god that i'm sure this gives courtney a heart attack like the dyes in that thing yeah and you know they're not using natural flavors there's it's red 40 correct there's red 40 in that box and courtney has to fit next to it the internet has pretty much declared kendall's is the best it's red 40.
Correct. There's red 40 in that box.
And Courtney has to fit next to it.

The Internet has pretty much declared Kendall's is the best.

It's like a chocolate chip chocolate cookie dough.

Yummy.

Also, I know Chloe did cookies and cream.

Everything Chloe does is just like good.

You know, her house decor is good.

She did a skillet.

It's a skillet cookie.

Her outfits are good.

Like she just has good, normal taste.

Agreed.

She's a very normal person.

Kim did snickerdoodle? Yeah, Kim's was really basic snickerdoodle. Okay.
Chris's was a, I've seen it. It's highly contested.
It's either people's favorite or least favorite. It's Adam Gotchalk's favorite.
It's a yellow cake chocolate frosting, which is like a unique combo. Yellow cake chocolate frosting.
Yeah, but basic and good. Oh, you know what? And you know what? Like Courtney couldn't.
I'm glad Courtney did the flower list one that will sit there because it makes the whole thing feel really authentic. Because if she did something like not, then we just make, oh, they're just slapping their name on it.
It was like when she worked with Boohoo. Like she didn't bring the flavor to the box, but she brought the authenticity.
And I think the box needs that in addition to everything else. One good thing about my acupuncture is that it's right by a place that serves great frozen yogurt.
Now, I don't want to say the name because it's like a New York institution and they're also a family owned business. And I really like them.
I mean, their ice cream is very good. I usually get carob chips when I go to this particular place.
I don't know why. But I got sprinkles.

And I just want to say, their sprinkles, it was like literally having ice cream with gravel.

I was like crunching so hard.

It ruined my whole day.

I feel like sprinkles should be something that you give up.

Why?

Are they cancerous?

No, no, no.

Of course, they have dyes in them, which most things do. I don't know.
I just have a negative association. They're just like little sugar pellets.
Like they're just so stupid. They're so good.
And they taste like nothing. Oh, you're so wrong for that.
You are so wrong for that. I have beef between my feet.
What is your go-to ice cream frozen yogurt topping? Oh, like cookies and cream with Oreo will always slap. Oreo is like always pretty much.
I love Heath Bar. I love a Heath Bar.
In that vein, I've actually been doing a lot at 40 Carrots. They have Reese's Cups like chopped up.
That's fucking delicious. That's like when you're being really fat.
Yeah. And I mean, if you're getting the ice cream, like be fat, you know.
It's frozen yogurt. Like you can actually do it in a healthy way.
You could, but why would you? I mean, I wouldn't. I know that there get like banana slices like are you okay sick individuals and then reese's pieces and m&ms again like there should be no m&ms on ice cream i don't agree i know we disagree but the texture is wrong it's it's not an ideal texture scenario i will agree give you on that but once you can get past that especially if you do mini, it's really a pargy, crunchy treat.
No, it's like they slide on your teeth. You know what? Don't sleep on.
Most places don't have it, except Tasty Delight does, which is why I'm familiar. We need more frozen yogurt places to carry peanut butter chips.
They look like chocolate chips, but they're made of peanut butter. A nice, good French vanilla with a peanut butter chip topping is so fucking delicious yummy yummy yummy yummy check it out highly recommend 40 carrots doesn't have that they need to work on that they're slipping we caught them slipping we got them slipping well now it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know and i feel as though you need to know them i feel as though you need to know them too i.
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Thank you, turd space.

I thought you were going to say turd main.

I keep trying to like guess what you're going to say.

Like I said domain and you said like turd main, you know?

I do need a domain for my turd main at turd space.

Turd main.com?

I think so. What are we selling? What kind of business we in? I mean, this is the age old question.
Yeah. Only you can answer that.
Turd main. Turd main.
I like that. Maybe it's like wigs that look like your hair.
Oh, I love that. It's actually a good idea.
You would love it. You would love it.
Okay, our first story. Oh, wait.
Your camera's still working? I know you're having like some camera troubles. I want you to be aware.
We're live. We're live.
Okay, cool, cool, cool. Our first story, since we dipped into it, Alex and Ashton Earl are all smiles on the cover of Vogue Turkey on National Siblings Day, which feels like a coincidence, but a pargy one.
Yeah, I was shocked when I saw this. Now, people on the Internet are so quick to be like, it's Vogue Turkey and it's the digital cover.
Bitch, where are you in your mom's basement? Like, eat my ass. Like, I thought this was so cool.
Yeah, you can't get to the cover of Vogue America without, you know, stepping stones. And this is still huge.
They looked so cute. I love that they did it together.
Without passing through Turkey. Yeah.
I do wonder if it was like they reached to alex and she wanted to have her sister on because it was really shocking that it was the both of them yeah like are the editors at turkey big fans of the podcast hot mess it's true i and do they have to go to turkey to shoot this where no i watched the vlog it was in miami okay yeah and they wanted it to look like Turkey, so they're on this, like, railroad. Yeah, there's power lines behind them.
She has to get up because the bright line comes. That is not indigenous to Turkey.
No, I do often wonder about, like, those types of international covers. Like Harper's Bazaar in Vietnam.
Right, do you travel? I actually don't think you do. if it's a part of like the conde nast bubble like they have teams here wait i'm cracking up you really think they wanted it to look like turkey because like it is a random sort of spot i don't think it didn't look like turkey but i've also never been no i guess but like the fact that i even thought oh was this in turkey like mission accomplished.
Right. Because it was literally in Florida.
But like if they're shooting in Miami, they didn't want us to think it was Miami because they would have done like more iconic Miami shots. Of course, the beach.
Not this like fence or the park bench. I don't know if Turkey is very fancy, but I actually think it's more like gilded.
It's actually probably a little bit more similar to Miami than we would think oh yeah there's definitely like gilded it depends right but I feel like there's definitely like farmland and countryside well there's farmland and countryside in every country I'd love to learn more about the topography of Turkey and even girls didn't go maybe they could tell us what does it mean oh yeah to be representing Turkey in this way? So I do feel like there's been like a visible shift in Alex's content to being like much more family focused. Even when she launched her vlog, it was like our all family trip to spring break in Universal Studios.
And now like bringing her sister in on the podcast and then bringing her sister in on the Vogue cover and a lot of her vlogs. I feel like that's been an intentional shift and I think it's a great idea.
And now they're kind of doing everything together. Do you think it's in service of the Earl Girls reality show? I think it's in service of they understand they're better off together than like it being the Alex show.
Because you know, anyone can be like a popular influencer, but when you have like that family, it's like the Kardashian thing. Like it's, it's magic when you have it.
And so I think that they're seeing that and their step-mom has had a lot of success on social media. She has a lot of followers on TikTok.
So they're all sort of doing their own thing. And there is this like very organic, authentic interest in their family because they are very wealthy.
The step-mom and the dad have this very interesting sort of scandalous story. Everyone's attractive.
Everyone's good looking. The kids who are like the blended kids, the younger kids are very cute and like they love TikTok and there was doing crumble cookie reviews.
Like it's, they're kind of made for it. So I think that they're really leaning into it now.
And I think also the dad managing her and Ashton as of like last year, probably had a lot to do that, too. And maybe that's why they didn't want to be on the podcast anymore.
But I've seen I feel like I'm seeing this shift and I think it's actually really good. I think so, too.
I love family content. Me, too.
Do you think it'd still be fun? And she goes out next Paul Brothers. Like kind of.
Yeah. Right.
For the swirlies. I could see that.
Yeah, I'm'm down I like everything that she's doing these pictures are really beautiful and it just highlights how they like this should it wouldn't be right now but like if this were Vogue America it would be an amazing cover yeah I guess like I don't think a Vogue America does digital covers but if they did like this would be a great one yeah I mean they would never like put Alex Earl on at the current junction but like if they did it would be amazing like sometimes you see you know Harbors Bazaar Vietnam and you're not like oh that should be a Vogue cover but like sometimes we see British Vogue we're like that that just makes American Vogue look bad I feel like this looks really good for them and I can see them on the cover of Vogue I also feel like this doesn't put them completely the running, at least Alex, to be at the Met Gala. At least the Turkish Met Gala.
No, but you know what I mean. Like Vogue, Turkey, you can clown on it as much as you want.
Not you, I'm saying. Like I see people on the internet.
It is a part of Condé Nast proper. No, I'm not saying you.
I'm saying like people are. It's just like, we just have to say like Turkey and it's just like funny.
But it's a foot in the door of Condé Nast. Like it's very real.
There are some like unaffiliated Vogue. Like you can tell.
Like they're like spun out on their own. Vogue turkey like is legit.
And so I do feel like we will see Alex Earl at the Met Gala. Why wouldn't we? They always dip into very small amounts of influencers and especially TikTok.
And she she's really that girl she is i said that she should be there and she should be there her and nara smith i think will be there yeah representing the digital swirlies and i feel represented i love that well congrats to the girlies the pics are beautiful i'm happy i must be so proud i'm happy for vogue turkey they had a great idea 1000 like flawless execution we love to see it start to finish yeah are you ready for our next story some sad news because eric dane has announced that he has been diagnosed with als and he's actually going to begin filming euphoria season three so eric dane is already headed back to work after revealing his als diagnosis he will begin filming season three of euphoria on monday just four days after announcing he has the neurodegenerative disease which causes loss of muscle control over time he said i feel fortunate that i'm able to continue working and i'm looking forward to returning to the set of euphoria next week i mean so sad als is like lou garrick's disease for those who don't know. And it's just like over time, it can take years.
Like your body just completely decomposes and like stops working. Use your motor skills, your ability to talk.
And it's really hard. Obviously, I follow Brooke on TikTok who has ALS and she was on our show too.
So I feel like I actually know a lot about it from her. And it's great that like he's still at the stage where he can continue to work and he should.
And honestly, euphoria being pushed back for as long as it was was probably really annoying for him. Yeah.
Time is on his side. But this is so sad.
So sad. And I saw he was getting divorced from Rebecca Gay.
Hard was his wife, but they put their divorce on pause. Oh, have they? Yeah.
Oh, interesting. I didn't know that he was getting divorced.
He's very handsome. He he is very handsome kind of reminds me a little bit of like what Bruce Willis is going through like you could be the most famous person in the world on the top show but it's like a disease like that comes and it's just like nobody cares that you're famous like it's just it comes for everyone what does he have he has um dementia right yeah yeah really sad really sad so this is very sad news and people love Eric D dane because he's from gray's anatomy so he's like a steamy is he mcsteamy and patrick's mcdreamy yeah yeah yeah you're right and they're both not on the show anymore i don't know about patrick but i i saw this as former gray's anatomy so yeah no i don't think he's not on got it so he means a lot to a lot of people steamy steamy's not on but dreamy made a cameo like two years ago everyone was talking about it you remember that it was a dream sequence it was a dreamy sequence yes a dreamy sequence no I don't remember that I'm shocked that you oh you don't remember everyone talking about it I do no I'm shocked that you do really it was like the biggest the biggest thing.
It's like my job to know. You do not even remember what you said about Peppa Pig three weeks ago.
Because Peppa Pig is inconsequential. That's the point.
That's the point I'm trying to make. Because Peppa Pig is disgusting.
Yeah, I said it like that. I felt the intonation too.
Because Peppa Pig is disgusting. No, I do remember.
I remember when he made his cameo it was like a really big deal yeah yeah no and by the way i like watched the clip yesterday like now it's i'm remembering everything and at least you got to experience it like as if you weren't the person who said it like a viewer and you thought that girl was funny yeah she was a little, I'm kidding. Listen, you're not going to stop me.
I'm not engaging. Okay.
Disengage. Disengaging.
So, Euphoria Season 3, are you going to watch? I don't know. I think that when it was on, I felt a little old to be watching it.
No. And now they've taken so much time.
I'm 30. Although it is, I believe I read that the next season they jump forward five years.
Okay. Which kind of sucks because they left us in the craziest cliffhanger.
Like seriously, Rue, is that her name? Rue, yeah. Which is Zendaya's character like made one of the worst fucking decisions

like it cost her her life

and then you never found out

what happened

and now I hear that they're

jumping forward five years

so I feel like maybe

like Rue goes to jail

for five years

and now she's getting out.

That's just like a feeling I have

given what happened

at the end of season two.

So maybe I'm not too old

to be watching it.

Also I have to say

if they are skimming

because it's been five years

like maybe I'm right on time.

Right.

Okay.

But I'm not like old to be watching it. Also have to say if they are skimming because it's been five years.
Like maybe I'm right on time. Right.
Okay. But I'm not like counting down the minutes.
I'll have to see like where I'm at in my life. Do I have a lot of free time? Yeah.
When Euphoria comes out or am I just busy? Is that the vibe that you're looking for? Yeah. The show used to give me the worst anxiety.
Oh my God. You're not going to be watching shows like that.
Yeah. That contribute like poorly to my mental health yeah are you ready for our next story speaking of speaking of justin bieber has quit drew house his fashion brand on the heels of a confrontation with the paparazzi now page six is calling it a bizarre paparazzi meltdown.
However, that feels very subjective.

Yeah.

When I saw that, I was like, oh, what's he doing?

And he was just like yelling and honestly spitting facts at paparazzi.

It was just like a classic celebrity having had enough of the paparazzi for a moment moment.

Yeah.

But like his shirt was half on.

And usually when celebrities are yelling at paparazzi, like they're not headed towards a good place.

You know, it's always like one step before the haircut. Oh's really funny I actually don't agree with that why who yells at them uh Britney Spears and the umbrella and Kanye and Alec Baldwin and Justin Bieber and you know after like it's hard with Justin Bieber because I feel like he posts stuff that's like seriously so concerning right like yes yes yes a friend of mine posted that like I would call I would call them up and I would say like you might want to take a look at this right but then he like goes on and everything's fine and him and Hailey and then just yesterday they're spotted in Palm Springs they're going to Coachella like everything's fine I know I know I for one I'm like not worried about Justin Bieber even though like you said his digital footprint is you know a little worrisome and yes he did like yell at photographers but honestly I feel like not worried about Justin Bieber, even though, like you said, his digital footprint is, you know, a little worrisome.
And yes, he did like yell at photographers. But honestly, I feel like photographers need to be yelled at.
And I didn't find that concerning. No, I feel like I can think of a couple of celebrity encounters where they just had like had enough with the paparazzi.
Like Hilary Duff, when she was being like literally followed and she had her son and she was like, you just leave me alone. Like, I don't know.
I feel like that's not an indicator of like a psychosis, you know.

But and again, he looks crazy.

I know.

I just, I don't know.

I feel like he's fine.

And I also feel like the Drew House thing has nothing to do with the paparazzi thing.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

So he posted on his Instagram, he posted a screenshot of Drew House, which was like this brand that he was his brand.

He's always wearing like Drew House clothes.

Smiley face.

It's like merch.

Yeah.

He said, I, Justin Bieber, am no longer involved in this brand.

Drew House doesn't represent me or my family or life.

If you're rocking with me, the human Justin Bieber, don't waste your money on Drew House.

Well, I think that's important for his fans to know, like they might be spending money

and it's not his thing anymore. But what happened? Because it was thing yeah didn't he invent it so yeah what happens there I yeah I feel like there are so many red flags and usually I ignore them especially when it comes to like their relationship like yeah I'm like look you can't tell them nothing but I don't know why like this this recent spell it's been like a few weeks and I'm a little nervous.

I know, but it's like nothing ever happens.

I know.

They're literally together right now.

There's a flare up, right?

He's unfollowing her.

He's mental health.

He's this.

He's that.

They have a baby.

They're fucking fine.

Like, I don't know.

I'm just not worried about them.

They're literally yesterday walking hand in hand in palm trees.

Looking so cute.

Yeah.

I think maybe he's like just eclectic and weird and famous and rich like i don't know and yeah i don't know i like i care more about hailey and i think hailey has a really good head on her shoulders like i don't think she like parties i think she's just like really grounded in being a wife and a mom and a business owner and she seems fine to me so like how much can a person put up with no i know everyone has their limit like it's every week i'm sure her normal is so different from what anybody else would consider i mean it was literally this week we were talking about francesca frago getting an email from an agency who's like paying to have tiktoks made about hailey bieber in a negative way issue in her life i'm saying like her normal with justin i'm sure it doesn't look like you know do you feel like they are under a bigger microscope do you feel like they're under a bigger microscope like we critique their social media their outfits everything because of like the the Haley drama like because I feel like they're not separate I yeah I feel like they're not separate issues I like we talk about them as a couple more and yeah yeah, they put up like weird things that everybody does. So maybe for others, but really for me, like I'm seeing these two things as separate.
Yeah. Like, but also so much of it is lies.
Like, right. How many times a year do we, Haley unfollows Justin and it all ends up being fake.
No. And like the lyrics about like the phone calls on the wedding day of Justin to Selena.
And there was a story like two weeks ago of a girl who made a tiktok being like look hailey bieber liked my anti-selena video and it went so viral and it was fucking fake she made it up yeah no none of that really affects how i see them like and even the lyrics from this new album that came out that make it seem like justin's in love with selena like i i think julia michaels's ex is in love with her right like so i don't ph. For me, I can separate the two.
And I don't think most people can. But like, I'm just saying, I think in their relationship right now, he just seems like he's like worse than ever.
But maybe he's not. Maybe this is.
Maybe that's just him. Justin.
I don't know. I don't know.
Until like something actually happens, we're like edging. We're always worried about Justin Bieber.
But you know what? He's fine. No.
Yeah. And I'll get to a point of like, oh, okay.
Well, that was nothing and it continues to be nothing. So I'm moving on.
But. You feel like this feels different.
I don't know. I feel like I'm like paying more attention right now.
Yeah. I don't know why.
Maybe. Okay.
I don't know why. Okay.
So don't waste your money at drew house if you're no if you rock with justin beaver the human in the physical sense is the moral of the story yeah are you ready for our next story number four yeah yeah gwyneth paltrow admits that she regrets not having more kids oh so gwyneth paltrow who has two children apple and moses who are 20 and 19 with her ex-husband Chris Martin recently admitted that she wishes she had more children so she did an episode of her group podcast and she said my dad Bruce Paltrow used to say the only regret he had in his entire life was not having more kids and I felt like that for a long time she said she told listeners that she began to feel more complete as a mother after marrying Brad Falchuk who shares shares two kids with his oh yeah she's also a bonus mom yeah so now she has like two more kids she said in an ideal world the relationship that you have that your kids in works out and your kids never have to experience divorce or blending families or anything like that but a lot of times that's not the case she said becoming a step parent has been tricky because it requires a great deal of accountability vulnerability and understanding your triggers and nothing quite seems to trigger somebody especially women like a stepmother yeah so she seems uh she talks about actually like the growing pains yeah in the beginning of like having to everyone get together she said what seems to happen every time is that dad is in the middle the kids are having a hard time understanding and adjusting they don't want to let go of the family dynamic they had and the dad is trying to appease and play both sides she said despite the initial hardships they've made the blended family work it started to feel really light and really cohesive and since then we've had so many moments like that it keeps deepening it's such a particular kind of delight to see our four kids in their own relationships and being friends with each other and loving each other yeah I feel like when it comes to co-parenting like they've got it down like I know obviously it's not perfect and but and what you only see what people want you to see but just based on like her annual tributes to Chris on his birthday and Father's Day and Dakota and Gwyneth it just it seems perfect yeah and it's nice that she's saying like, no, it wasn't perfect. And blending families is hard.
And that it all worked out. And it was like nice, like a nice idea that she, wish that she had more children.
And now she has two more children technically. And she has this big family.
She also, I feel like is always talking about her dad. Like she, she's like a classic Nippo baby, right? Both of her parents are super famous.
I feel like her mom is more well-known because she's a front-facing actor, Blythe Danner, whereas her dad was like a TV director or something. But she had, and when she lost her dad, obviously famously, it was devastating for her.
Chris Martin was so upset. Watching her be so upset, he wrote the song called Yellow.
Like imagine. Gwyneth Paltrow is just seriously that bitch.
Like, I'm sorry, I fucking love this woman woman And so to hear her Echo the statements Of her father Who's like such a Deeply important figure In her life Is nice And then for her Yes to like Sort of fix it Weirdly Is really nice Yeah It is really nice And I guess you hear People say that Like you never regret You only regret Like kids that you don't You never regret having more Yeah Like a bigger family kids do you want to have? I used to say like I wanted five, but it's like now I actually have to do it five times. Like if there was just like, if you, if we went to the grocery store, right? Like, and you just like bought them.
I would buy five kids. Yes.
Ideally. That's your ideal number.
Yeah. Because I loved being in a big family.
Four. and like maybe, yeah, one more.
Make it bigger.

That's how I feel too.

That's actually exactly how I feel. I love four.
And then sometimes I'm like, well, more the merrier. Yeah, right? Five.
Like five was always what I wanted. The practicalities.
Jackie, I'm so close to the edge, to the brink. I haven't even birthed yet.
I'll be surprised.

I'll be interested to see if you forget a lot of the day-to-day pains and struggles because that's what the body does so that by the time like you're right like you want to go again you're ready and you forget like a lot of the misery it's funny okay it's the body's way of survival plus you're a forgetful person yes however and and i experienced this where like i really for a while had forgotten bad the first trimester was. Cause like you feel so much better and then you just like move on with your life and you can feel your body like sort of protecting you like a trauma response in forgetting about it.
And I literally won't let myself forget. I remind myself every night.
I'm like, we need to remember the North remembers, but I'm telling like eventually so much more is going to be going on in your life that like at night, you're going to forget to remember that bit. And like maybe slowly but surely like it will go away.
And you'll always like know. The first trimester is rough.
But like you will forget the ins and outs of it. It is also often a reminder that there are people who don't know that they're pregnant until they give birth.
Like these like sort of crazy medical stories. And I'm just like I'm calling a bluff.
There's literally no fucking way. No, it's so's so crazy I used to watch that show I didn't know I was pregnant on TLC where they would like tell these emergency room stories like dramatizations of like you know they thought they had a stomach ache and now they're a parent like that's a that's a concerning you know that you could be so aloof to your own body first of all you didn't get your period period second of all like you didn't notice a kick of a nothing for me a tmj an ibs a carpal tunnel a coccidinia like literally out a belly like literally how no that's like serious negligence.
Agreed.

A bodily autonomy.

Yeah. Really funny.
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She also very famously dates the lead singer of, I call them Mainskin. Apparently it's like Mamaskin or whatever.
From Euroskip? From Eurovision, yeah. That like rock band.
Yeah, and they sing the cover of that song. Yes.
Hold on. I didn't know she dates Mainskin.
I'm not making that up, right? And she previously dated Thomas Doherty from the Gossip Girl Failed reboot. Oh, yes.
Yes. Hold on.
I didn't know she dates Mainskin. I'm not making that up, right? And she previously dated Thomas Doherty from the Gossip Girl Failed reboot.
Oh, yes. And Tell Me Lies, the guy, Leo.
Yes, yes, yes. She literally invented him.
She dated him before because he played the pirate in Descendants. Yeah.
Dev Cameron's in a relationship with Damiano David, the lead singer of Italian rock band Mainskin. That's really crazy and they've been together since you know 2023 they do the cover of begging begging begging you no no that's not the begging song but it's um no you're lying oh no wait maybe it is maybe it is they went to the Mac Alley they went to the Mac Alley he's really hot did Dove go to the Mac Allala I think she did yeah I'm saying they went together oh they I thought you meant main skin oh no the other members of main skin like we don't know them she's actually like a long term relationship girly because she had two serious relationships she's actually just talking about them how they were like quite toxic and she's been through a lot.
So she's on Armchair Expert

and she's talking about, you know,

Armchair Expert things.

And she was sharing how her dad committed suicide

when she was 15,

when she started on Live in Maddie.

And it was just like a crazy time.

And she's going through the details

of like being 13, 14 and 15

and like living with her dad

who had serious depression

or like going to visit him for the summer

and just like these really crazy anecdotes. And she's also so well-spoken well-spoken and like mature she's not like overly emotional she seems like really um like healed yeah and like thoroughly therapized and she said that she's like i'm i've excavated all of this in therapy like my personal family history and like going back like at the time she was like 13 14 and her dad was seriously depressed and she thought that he was mad at her.
So she would like try even harder and he would just like reject her. But he was like pushing her away because of what he was going through and like knowing, you know, what his plans were.
Well, and that's really sad. Yeah.
So I watched a lot of clips from the episode and I've never watched as many clips from armchair expert. And I have to say, like, I understand now why Dax Shepard.
You get the hype the hype i get the hype he's extremely um i feel like the term emotionally intelligent is overused but like he interjects with like oh he was like you know that i imagine that would make me feel blank and it's like right it's like yes exactly and it's actually like um it's not a conversation it's a conversation but it's it's he takes it deeper than you would think and i didn't realize he was like so muscular. Okay.
Well, so I meant to tell you this. I thought he was like tall and skinny.
Last night, I very weirdly, like I could not find something to watch. Me and Ben started Parenthood.
We only watched one episode and I can't lie. I didn't like it.
Ben liked it. But it, Jack Shepard is the star.
Okay. So is Lorelai Gilmore, whatever, Lauren Graham, and Mae Whitman.
And that story we were saying last week, remember that Lorelai Gilmore went on Armchair Expert talking about Mae Whitman. Now I understand like how it's all connected because they're obviously like lifelong friends in the show and it wasn't like a big secret that she revealed.
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So it was very, you know, shocking to see him doing his thing. And yes, he is muscular.
Yeah. No, and he's got Riz, I would say.
Oh, were you like, it sounds like you were being dazzled by Dax Shepard, dazzled by the Dax. Dax and Jax.
Much more so than I would have ever expected. Because I just know Armchair Expert exists.
I know people love it. I know like big celebrities go on it.
I had no idea what they do there. I imagine.
I've actually also never seen a clip of it. Like I didn't know what their studio looked like.
Yeah. And he has a co-host who also is.
Monica. Just is like warm and compassionate.
Yeah. I think they get a lot of really good guests, obviously, because he's really famous and like well-connected, but because I think they like foster a really lovely environment.
Yeah. And they know how to like have conversations and get people to open up without prying.
Yeah. Because she was like, I don't know how deep we go on this podcast.
And he's like, oh, no, we go deep. So it wasn't even him making her go.
Like she felt like she was going in. She felt like she wanted to share.
Yeah. Because she was like, I don't know how deep we go on this podcast.
And he's like, oh, no, we go deep. So it wasn't even him making her go.
Like, she felt like she was going in. She felt what she wanted to share.
Yeah. So I think I think the only person who would disagree with what we're saying is JVN.
JVN like has a like a horror story. Like it's like his Roman Empire is the episode of what's it called? Armchair expert that JVN was on.
But other than that, I think like celebrities love it. Yeah.
I don't know exactly what Dove was promoting. Maybe a new album.
She makes a lot of music. She did also do a musical performance on like a Colbert, I forget which one, late night show that I saw pretty recently.
So she's probably doing new music. Her music career has not gone off in the way that I think it needs to.
She's extremely talented. She's extremely talented.
But yeah, I followed her for a really long time. And I'll always be a fan of hers.
I think she's great and really talented. But I've just moved on.
But I'm so happy to see her. I feel like she's starting to get her flowers a little bit.
I've been seeing her like more and more. I feel like she's going to have a very similar trajectory to Sabrina Carpenter.
People slept on Sabrina Carpenter and she was like doing the most for years. Like after Disney, after contract was up, she just like kind of couldn't get arrested.
And then it was this happy. And then she also had that big scandal with Olivia Rodrigo, which like made it worse for her.
And then everything sort of sort of aligned and people started to take notice. And I think maybe that'll happen with Dove Cameron because she is supremely talented.
Yeah, but like the music has to be good. Even when I was like a huge fan of hers, like the music was always just like very art.
Not what I wanted to hear coming off of Descendants, you know, like dark and artsy. And it's just like not for the masses.
I don't know what she's putting out now she has an amazing voice she's obviously actually the clip i saw of her performing was like very dark and artsy okay dartsy yeah and now with the main skin boyfriend that's like so his vibe too right she's not coming out of that for a while no we need her to date like but this is who she is like even the way that she speaks on that like she's not going to be making no she's not headed to the one direction factory for timeless hits well let me all suffer yeah but that's i think she's she seems happy and yeah she does well but i think she's making a lot of waves right now with this podcast and i'm happy for her i'm happy for dax as well huge moment for podcasters finally after how many years has been doing it that i finally caught a glimpse of this actually really crazy that like i've never seen a clip of his show his clips like don't go viral yeah but also like his guests are not like our swirly's usually yeah it's true super swirly no no super swirly and the combos aren't super swirly i wouldn't even say this combo was super swirly no um should we dive into queenie and weenie our final segment of the week now that we've done the fast five and they were really pargy well done oh thank you yeah i there was like six today i had to trim them so i guess you might have to wait till next week to find out what i don't want to like tease it but like jamie king did a podcast she did and guess which one she did you're never gonna guess and if i told you which keeping up with sports if i told you which one she did you might not want to talk about the story and now you have to tell me janna kramer okay moving on our final segment of the week queenie and weenie of the week uh one of my favorites jackie and I love to wrap up the week, take a look at the week at a glance, and give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. They're pretty self-explanatory.
If you act like a Queenie this week, you might be Queenie of the Week. If you act like a big old Weenie this week, you might be Weenie of the Week.
It's a seven-day title. It's not that serious.
Let's dive in, shall we? Yes. First up, Queenie, would you like to go first? My Queenie is the person who was going to be the Queenie of my last week.
And I said if he is still reigning supreme, he'll be at this week because we didn't do Queenie and Weenie last week. Yeah, we didn't.
And that is the coach of the Auburns, Bruce Pearl. Oh, you're a little delayed, but I'll allow it.
But he made it to the final two. The other coach who won is also a Jew, but Bruce Pearl has my heart.
Brian Pearlman. Boopop boop boop yeah he's also known as brian pearlman at this show um and no one did anything to me like that was more queenie like because i was ready to you know realize that he missed his chance at being queenie and i know that would haunt him forever but he is still my queenie of the week he lost with i love that with dignity i'm glad i wasn't in a bracket because I would have put it all on Bruce and I would have lost it all my queenie of the week is a little Twitter account called poo crave they made me chuckle so many times this week and then because we spoke about them on the toast yesterday they followed us on Twitter so now we are officially followed by poo crave and I don't know a lot of podcasts I can say that you know they say like Peabody award winning.
We are a Pooh Crave approved podcast.

And like what that by Pooh Crave. And I don't know a lot of podcasts that can say that.
You know how they say like Peabody award winning. We are a Pooh Crave

approved

podcast. And like what that

does, and for anyone who

doesn't know, because I feel like people were confused when I posted this

clip yesterday, you guys know the Instagram

account, excuse me, the TikTok account.

My God, Twitter account

Pop Crave. It's like the yellow logo.

They do like all breaking pop news. They

share, you know, when people post a picture from when people die. like they do all, it's like a TMZ for Gen Z.
And then somebody made a Twitter account that looks just like it. They use the same logo.
Their username is not pop underscore crave, but poo underscore crave. But they format their tweets to look exactly like the breaking news.
And every now and then you'll get caught because, but they're all satire. They're all parodies.
They're all jokes. That's why the Belinda Zion incest scene that I mentioned yesterday was a joke.
But it looked like a real Pop Crave tweet that I was like, oh, my God. So it's such a funny concept.
It's like harmless. And I love it.
Jackie and I were also victims of Pooh Crave a couple of weeks ago when we said that Mikey Madison was playing Yoko Ono in the Beatles biopic because it was a Pooh Crave tweet, not a Pop Crave tweet. Yeah, Pooh Crave has I'm looking at some of their recent tweets.
Oh, yeah, share them. The Blackpink's Lisa is set to play Rosa Parks in an upcoming HBO miniseries.
No, and like the world is so crazy that you often find yourself thinking like this could be true. I don't know if this is true because another one, this is another one.
I don't know if this is true. And they're just like, but Jake Shane predicts bossy bottom summer.
That's not real. That's not? No.
Okay. Tell me about this one.
Kesha's new single, Yippee-Ki-Yay, has hit number 29 on the Icelandic iTunes. It's possible, but I'm going to say no.
On the Icelandic iTunes chart landing, her biggest comeback in years. I just want to say, Kesha's new song is so good.
Have you heard it? Singing yippee-ki-yay, yippee-ki-yay, ya-ya. Yeah, I've heard a little bit of it.
Bitch, I just got a brand nougat. And T-Pain's in it.
And it's like a little country pop. It's very good.
Shane Dawson is currently ranting on Instagram live after his local Taco Bell wouldn't serve him Doritos Locos Tacos during breakfast hours. Is that? It's seriously so funny.
It's like a screenshot of Shane Dawson. No, I know.
They format it to look so real. Yeah.
So they brought me a lot of joy this week and many weeks prior. And it's time that they get their crown.
That is funny. Okay.
Who's your. Oh, I'll do a weenie.
Sure. It wasn't a weenie filled week.
I will say. No, mine was like something that came to me.
Like I've been like a hater of something and I want to share what I've been hating on. My weenie of the week is guy talk.
Weenie like behavior. Love.
Exhibited through and through. He's actually the definition of a weenie.
He's the definition of a weenie. He culminated the season in a weenie like fashion.
Yep. He's got to take the W.
I absolutely love that and I wholeheartedly endorse. Thank you.
Your candidate. Mine is just I wanted to talk about this use weenie as an opportunity to talk about something that I've seen that's really been bothering me on social media.
So my Weenie of the Week is a trend that I've seen people do, and it's like – I feel like you actually might fall victim to this trend. Uh-oh.
What is with everyone making their own bagels? Three-ingredient bagels. Excuse me? Like maybe I'm feeling extra sensitive because it's Passover and like I'm feeling extra grateful for bagels.
I guess you could eat a cottage cheese bagel during Passover. Yeah.
People making their own bagels out of like cottage cheese in there. And literally the things that they pull out of the oven look like people's testicles.
Like it's fucking crazy. They look like organs.
We have to stop making our own bagels. Like especially if you're making them with Greek yogurt.
Like it's so fucking crazy. It is.
I'm so proud to say I have not fallen into this. I've not even been too ingredient bagel curious.
And what I also find weird, I see people doing it who like, who don't make shit, right? Like they order everything. Like why is this what you're making? It's not like they're people who like always are looking for healthy alternatives, always are looking from scratch.
Like, you know, want a keto bagel.

They've been waiting their whole life for this.

Like, they're the laziest fucking people,

but they'll make a two-ingredient bagel.

Jackie, I'm so glad you agree with me on this.

It's bothering me so much,

especially because they couldn't look more disgusting.

And what's funny is I actually feel like a little guilty

that I haven't done it

because I'm like, I sometimes eat a bagel

and maybe I should have a two-ingredient one.

Everyone says they're so good and fluffy.

Bagels are perfect. They're so fluffy.
Everyone says they're so good and fluffy.

Bagels are perfect.

They're so fluffy, right?

They're the opposite of fluffy. They look like raisins.

But who do you blame for this and why is it Bethany Frankel?

No, you know who I blame?

The first person I saw making their own bagels like a year ago, I feel like his name is Bryce Harper and he plays for the Phillies.

And Ben was showing me his TikTok being like, oh my God, do you know Bryce Harper from the Phillies?

Like he's popping off on TikTok.

And he made his own bagels and everybody was like commenting.

And that was the first time I saw it and then maybe it was because it was the first time and then I started seeing it everywhere and now it's just like a thing people are doing and I'm actually really worried about our sister Olivia because I feel like she's going to fall victim and like try to make it and I need to talk to her and tell her she can't. Especially during Passover because what's the second ingredient? Flour? People make their own.
You could use almond flour. Like you can make it if you have all your different dietary restrictions.
Like it's seriously, at some point, just have a salad. Like it's not a bagel anymore.
Yeah. No, it's really, it is crazy.
But the baseball player making it doesn't bother me. Because like that's like an athlete who's like has dietary.
Health conscious. I completely agree.
I wasn't bothered when I saw it. And he was being like cute and funny he has like this little tiktok show meanwhile he has like a 400 million dollar contract like he doesn't need to be doing this so like wait when I saw it with him it didn't bother me then I started seeing I'm like oh this is a thing we're all doing now I'm not participating and you all are disgusting because I love bagels yeah I have definitely felt not pressured enough to do it but a little bit left behind that I don't want to eat a cottage cheese Greek yogurt bagel.
Correct. And then try and make it into a bagel shape, which doesn't seem easy.
So that is the best part of watching everybody's tutorials is they make this cement sticky dough. And they're like, now we're going to format it into bagels.
And they can't even get it off their fingers. And they press their dirty finger in the middle.

No, but Jackie,

they can't even get it off their fingers.

Like it's so tacky and it's so not dough-like

because it's not.

It's literally like mortar.

Yeah.

And to watch them be like,

and make it into,

look how good that looks.

You literally made it rock.

No, it literally looks like ass

until they put it in the oven

and it like somehow rises.

And then it comes out

and it looks like an old man's ass.

And they put everything

but the bagel seasoning

and like they make it look like

Thank you. No, it literally looks like ass until they put it in the oven and it like somehow rises.
And then it comes out and it looks like an old man's ass.

And they put everything but the bagel seasoning and like they make it look like a bagel.

They think that EBTB is going to save it and it ain't.

No, it might mask it, but we know what's in there.

Correct.

Well, I'm glad I got that off my chest.

I feel lighter than air.

Yeah, I think it will come to an end soon. Yeah, someone's going to get hurt.
I agree. Because I'm going to throw one of their bagels at them.
That's our show. What a great week.
We are heading into Passover. But, you know, thanks to the beautiful Jewish calendar, Jack and I are back here on Monday.
No episodes missed. No days off.
Even though it is still technically a chag, like we will be working.

We should have taken off Monday

because it is like whole M08 or what's it called?

No, it's not whole M08.

It's Yom Tov.

It's Yom Tov.

We're working on Yom Tov.

Tsk, tsk.

So I'm wishing everyone who's embarking on this journey

the Hatz La Chag, good luck.

It'll be over before we know it, you know?

Yeah.

Have potato chips, have french fries. Just remember, we remember we have potatoes yeah and some of us have corn right and depending on where your family hails from perhaps if you're a little bit more middle eastern you also have rice I would eat rice and just take you know claim it and don't forget about the legumes some people have legumes but I But I don't even like rice.
Oh, that's where you're wrong.

But maybe a little crispy

rice. So good luck

everyone. Spicy tuna crispy rice.
A little sushi.

I'm so hungry.

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