7 Years of Pargiliciousness: Wednesday, April 9th, 2025

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Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day.

Speaking of humping,

only one girl comes to mind.

Why, thank you, coachers, Wojers, Caroline,

Wojniaki.

Folet, Jacqueline.

I know.

Today you're Caroline Wojniaki, and I'm still Foley.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, it's like the more things change, the more they stay the same.

The more your name changes, the more mine stays the same.

I mean, if you could start like LARPing your own nickname, I'm sorry, I'm not good with nicknames.

You're lucky I came up with Folet.

I need a friend named Jackie and to see what I could do for her.

I would love to know where you'd end up with a friend named Jackie.

I could never even imagine the places.

The places it would take you.

Plojourner's truth.

Oh, the places you'll go.

Plojourner's Truth.

Someone left the funniest comment on our Instagram yesterday saying, we'll know that Claudia lost her mucus plug when the title of the episode is Plojourner's Truth.

And until that day,

it will be a quiet, boring day around here.

Correct.

How's your MP doing?

Still intact as far as I know.

And even though it's like still really early, I'm like really wiping like with a lot of intent.

Do you know what I mean?

Which I feel like is good at this point in pregnancy.

It's important to know what's going on down there.

Headed to the doctor today going to see if the baby's flipped.

I can tell you he definitely hasn't.

Oh, we're rooting for you.

And I scheduled it very nicely because if he hasn't flipped, which I'm pretty sure he hasn't, tomorrow I start my journey in the Eastern medicine at the Soffer Longevity Institute of Technology.

I have my first acupuncture appointment tomorrow.

Oh, keep us posted.

I feel like you would know if he flipped.

Sound off in the comments, even though we'll know.

I've done some research.

There's like conflicting reports.

Some people feel it, some people don't.

But like, are you still feeling kicks in your cooter?

Yeah, but I'm also feeling kicks everywhere.

Well, there could be punches.

Yeah, right, right, right.

Rocky.

I also had physical therapy yesterday where we did some exercises and such.

By the way, her baby's name is not Rocky.

I could see people being like, Jackie, spill the beans.

My baby's name is Bowie.

Everybody knows that.

No, but like I was just saying like Rocky.

What's his name?

Rocky Balboa.

Okay, it's Balboa.

I don't know why I got nervous that it wasn't.

Right?

Sylvester Stallone.

It was a sly.

It was a sly reference of sly.

Yeah, I got it.

Thank you.

No, the baby's Bowie.

When I think of like famous boxers.

Who do you think of?

Cinderella Man?

Probably Manny Pacquiao.

That's a good one.

That's because I'm not like other girls.

Conor McGregor.

Jake Paul.

Is he a boxer?

Who?

Conor McGregor.

Yeah.

He's a fighter.

Well, you know, then we're getting into the MMA.

Are you barehanded?

That's really nutty.

That's like Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan does barehanded.

He does commentary for MMA, and that's barehanded.

Really?

Yeah, where they like tuck into each other and hug the other one.

Like, I will seriously.

Yeah, right.

Where they're like actually humping each other.

Perfect for hump day.

I will genuinely never understand the difference between like, I actually, the only one I can differentiate is WWE.

That's like fake.

Of course.

Kids love it.

No one's actually getting hurt.

Total Bellas.

WWE, UFC, MMA.

Like, I don't understand the difference, but I know UFC is like...

Is MMA?

No.

Well, is it?

Joe Rogan does commentary for UFC.

But it's, they're not doing martial arts up there.

They're not a bunch of artists.

No, we could definitely Google this, but I feel like I'm having fun in the unknown, you know?

Yeah, and it's not germane my life to know this.

It's not.

Maybe like once a year when there's a fight-on that has some sort of celebrity connection, like when Jake Paul does it or

Tommy Fury.

Logan Paul.

Right, Logan 2.

Did you see actually that their HBO Max reality show like has debuted?

No, I actually just went to write.

I was thinking there's something I wanted to add to my content plate that I know I'm going to watch and I couldn't remember, but I realize now it's Paul American, but I don't have my pen.

Well, I can tell you the clips that I've seen, like everybody's talking about this one particular storyline between Logan and Nina, where it's her birthday, and he ends up getting her like a crocodile Birkin, which is like, oh my God.

But it's the day of her birthday and he like forgot to get her a gift and she's like, did you have me a present?

And he's like, yeah.

And he like lies to her.

So it's like actually not romantic at all.

The bag is sick and he overspends because he seriously had like an hour in New York to go get a gift from like this fancy vintage shop.

I mean, that's a classic case.

And you can forget about my birthday if at the end of the day, I'm going to have a crocodile crocodile Birkin.

I just want to let you know that's okay.

I know.

It was like kind of sad, though.

I feel like up until this point, I've known nothing about Nina and Paul

as like a couple.

And I've just always felt I'm like, everything people think about them like is wrong.

Like they're really like, and he's a change man.

Some of the clips I was seeing, I'm like, oh, no, that's like exactly what I thought you were, you know?

Oh, that's funny.

I'll have to watch it to judge it on my own, but I stand by what I said.

Like, you can forget my gift if by the end of the day, day i have a crocodile birkin like we're squared away yeah i guess

yeah because at the end of the day like material items matter more than being thought of material items

forever

but it was definitely like sad to watch because she was like oh man you did get me a present you always forget like so did she not know until the episode airs that he actually i'm not sure like at what point he told her the truth

whether it was with the audience or maybe like the next day but she got a birkin so we all have to come to Birkins in our own ways.

All's well that ends well.

It's true.

Dorid had to jump off a boat.

But all's well that ends with a Birkin.

A crocodile one, nonetheless.

Right, right.

How did he get a Birkin in a day?

Does he have that much Polidar Meese?

But no, he went to a vintage shop.

So he only.

No, he went to like a, like, it was like this very kind of a collector's item, kind of like a Hammerscher Schlummer type of.

Sick.

So he only

Birkins that we always walk past.

Yeah, like that antique.

It's like an auction house.

Yeah, he went to like a fancy.

He said that it was like it was, no, it was like a classic like Instagram guy.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, oh, like what goes around comes around.

Kind of.

He had like a private showroom.

He was actually Jewish.

He was religious.

His name was like Yossi or something.

Wait, I hate that.

Gotta connect with Yossi.

Gotta connect.

You know?

And he wants to do a deal.

Right.

So it's Wednesday.

We have stories.

We did have a Real House Life of Beverly Hills recap until I found out that Jackie didn't watch.

And let me tell you, like, you guys are missing nothing.

It was, it was really giving part two, you know, like.

Yeah.

And because there's a part three, like it, we won't miss, you know, recapping the whole season.

I feel like my reason for not watching like is as beautiful as a reason could be, which is that Harry was in my bed all night because he didn't want to go to his.

And so I couldn't turn my TV on.

I'm so jealous.

See?

I'm so jealous.

See, and I knew you would understand.

Of course.

And I.

I will accept my payment because I did watch it.

And if I knew that I didn't have to, I wouldn't have suffered through it.

But the payment was a picture of Harry in your bed.

And you know what?

the check cleared we are square okay thanks so much and i was you truly missed nothing like they had jennifer tilley on okay which like i like her um and actually i like her even more after her time on the reunion but like she talk about not needing to be at a reunion she had no drama to like answer to so they pulled this like one random thing she said on like an a bravo digital web after show

and it was just basically saying that she was shocked to hear that pk is staying at the beverly hills hotel because it's really expensive i mean that's surprising Yeah, of course, but that's her big drama.

She had to apologize.

Like, it was so stupid.

But what I didn't know is that she's a huge Housewives fan, like a super fan.

And she's like talking about the differences of like watching it versus being a part of it.

It wasn't that interesting.

Okay, I knew I would enjoy it.

It just, I'll have to catch up.

And then tonight we shall watch Summerhouse.

We shall tonight watch Summerhouse.

So that will be good.

The recaps will be back tomorrow.

Tomorrow.

And is Southern Charmover?

It's done.

I never get to get it.

So we get our Fridays back.

But I did catch up by Jack's self.

So we get our Fridays back.

What should we do with all of our free time?

Well, The Valley starts to premiere soon.

I don't know what night that will be on.

I think there's actually like stuff coming up.

So we're in our TV recap season for sure.

1,000%.

So that's exciting.

What else can I tell you before we are forced to talk about others?

Did you see I made a nasse last night?

I saw that you made a nasse last night.

And I was like, I got left home alone.

Ben went out to dinner with his parents.

I'm eating like shitty leftovers.

You're sure you weren't invited.

I was, of course.

And I planned to go, but at four o'clock, like, I just dropped dead.

Like, I was seriously not okay.

And, like, to be honest, if I felt the way that I felt and they were going to like McDonald's,

I would have went.

But the restaurant they were going to, like, I knew I couldn't really be fat at.

It was Greek.

And it's, you know,

you know, I hate Avra.

Like, even though it's so good.

It's a beautiful restaurant.

Everyone loves Avra.

It's just like, I don't like Greek food.

I can't really be like indulgent.

Gorge.

It's just like salmon for you.

So, but right.

Ben was like, you know, let me know if you want to come, if you're feeling well.

He was like, very understanding.

Where did they go?

Avra.

Oh, my God.

So I was like,

I wanted to go because,

but like the idea that I would like suffer, because just being out of the house after four o'clock is suffering for me.

And I wouldn't even get like a big, fat, juicy meal.

It wasn't enough to take the risk.

And I would be in this uncomfortable chair.

No, the idea of going to a restaurant and not like gorging and really eating, like I'm there to eat now.

now so yeah if it's not about that if you're not about that like I'd rather stay home and then when Ben got home so late by the way he was like no it's so much better that you didn't come I was like okay

he was like we just had he was just at the best time you know like it was just also like his sister couldn't come because she was sick and she didn't want to get me sick she didn't want to get Ben's parents sick.

So it just ended up being, and it was supposed to be celebrating like a little belated Ben's birthday because he hadn't seen his family.

He had like an only child night.

Yeah, he had an only child night.

They like had cocktails.

He was like, we just had the best time.

He like was being kind of annoying.

i don't know if he was like trying to make me like jealous it was kind of working that's he was like it was just amazing my parents are the best and i was like yeah yeah he was like i'm like was it like like sorry that i didn't come he's like no like it's fine like no i feel like he wanted to be alone with his parents and he like babied for the night a thousand percent and you know me like

when i hit like a time where i need to go i'm like we have to go yeah but they're kikiing they're kikiing they had cocktails so it was better but he just kept saying like it's actually better that you didn't come okay so he said like his father repeating

hurtful things

twice.

Not even twice, like four times.

I was like, okay.

So what did you eat for dinner?

I had leftover tacos, which were still good.

But then I was tapping through your Instagram story.

I'm like, oh, she's having homemade wares, and I'm eating like seriously out of a Tupperware.

I know, but sometimes it feels that way tapping through your guys's, where like Ben's making something parch and we're having frozen chicken nuggets.

Comparison is the thief of joy.

It's true.

But I did have a lovely naysay shout out, Aina, last night.

You did inspire me to watch Aina, which is what I watched while I ate my leftover tacos.

That's so funny.

I watched Aina in my first pregnancy as well.

There's just something, even though I...

She's the vibe.

If you watch too much of anything, you'll start to hate.

And so I am starting to hate Aina.

And I noticed like her little flaws.

Like, she actually doesn't try her own food.

Except last night, she made her signature chocolate chip cookies and they looked so good.

And she ate the whole thing.

So I'm like, oh, so you do eat, but she doesn't eat any of her other shit.

Interesting.

Last night, I actually, I never like try what I've made before I put it out to like see if it needs anything because I followed the recipe.

So like, there you go.

Why would it need something?

But I had a feeling she, her recipe called for a lot of wine.

Like, she's really crazy.

So I was like, did all this shit cook down?

Like, right.

And if you're serving your kids, you got to make sure there's not like a alcohol content.

Right.

Or it would just taste bad.

So.

I guess.

Yeah, you, by the way, you've, everyone knows, like, I mean, is this a rite of passage where like you make a dish with alcohol and it doesn't properly cook off?

Like, I've literally gotten drunk off of penal vodka that I made once.

That hasn't happened to me once, but like, it's very acidic, and I used half and half instead of heavy cream.

So I was like, let me just try it and make sure it's like fine.

Um, and it wasn't.

And then I was googling like how to make it less acidic.

I don't have any more cream.

And Gemini, I can't cook without Gemini.

Is my sous chef.

They were like, And what did they say?

Either you could do a little baking soda, you could do a little sugar, or you could do some butter.

So I did a sprinkle of sugar and some butter, parch.

Wow.

Thanks, Gemini.

It's literally science.

Like every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.

That's true.

A little bit of a teacher.

A little very lessons in chemistry.

A little N-A-C-L.

I love that.

We got to talk more about the periodic table.

We do.

You know, because I'm feeling like boreium.

You are bored.

Yeah.

And I feel like we're not talking enough about potassium, like as a society.

Yeah, but I do think Hunt and the I Shrunk the Kids like did great things for the stock of potassium.

Yeah, yeah, 100%.

Everybody knows.

You can get it from a banana.

Everybody knows that.

100%.

And it's like, even though kids today don't watch that movie, they know from their parents.

Yes.

Right.

It's generation.

It's Lador Vador.

From generation.

From generation to generation.

Terry, that's beautiful.

And speaking

of Ledor Vador, Passover is coming up.

How are you feeling about the Chab?

I'm feeling nervous.

So for any of our listeners who are either new or don't know some of the rules of Passover, it's a beautiful time.

It's a great holiday, but it is like 10 days where you're not supposed to eat any leavened.

Is it?

We argue about this every year.

It feels like 100.

That's why.

Like I was, I almost said three weeks.

Like that's what it feels like.

It's a certain period of time where, you know, out of respect for what our ancestors went through, being kicked out of Egypt before their bread had time to rise, you're not supposed to eat anything leavened.

So that's pretty much all carbs, all bread, anything like, you know, with gluten in it.

Yeah.

Let me tell you, that shit shit is so hard and i think in like the last couple of years i've had an easier time because i've been like dieting and on ozempic so i just have like less cravings any food restrictions haven't been such a big deal for me

but i

there must be like a prenatal machlokat where you don't have to the idea of not eating bread i will die

i will die i know like there's no way and i feel like passover doesn't get what it deserves because like we have yum kippur which is really hard and like we need more we need more hate for passover yeah like it's it's not my favorite

no and like it's in no way is it even close to how bad yom ki por is you can eat as much as you want whenever you want it just can't you can't eat certain it's a gluten-free diet yom kippur is like a full fast day like it's horrible and over the course of passover you find yourself leaning on things like potatoes right potato chips

potato chips potatoes are not leavened so i mean potatoes are not bread

Yeah, you think of them as like bread, but they're not.

They're totally, it's totally safe.

And in certain denominations of Judaism, like whether you're Syrian or, you know, my Moroccan side,

you, they have different rules.

Like you can have rice in some communities.

You can have corn.

We're Ashkenaz.

Like we take it so seriously.

Like we can't have anything.

And I have to look.

Maybe I'll chat with the rabbi.

I need to get some sort of exemption.

It's so unfathomable that I would go eight days without having any carbs or bread.

Yeah, I think you're exempt.

Yeah, but you know, Ben is like a little like, he's like judgy, you know.

About Passover.

Yeah, something about Passover.

like me maybe he just like always looks forward to he's always trying to diet and like he can't but this is like from God it's divine um and he's like a little he's like well you know that soda has corn syrup in it I'm like oh fuck off yeah for real and also in lieu of bread like you can have matzah which is could be tasty which i think as a pregnant person it actually is like unsafe for me to eat matzah it's a real binder and i'm already like not having like the most amazing digestion and i just don't think like stocking up

correct i don't think stocky up on matzah is like good for me or the baby.

And that I'm actually being serious about.

I think you should listen to your body.

And I think that's what the rabbis would say.

I think the rabbis.

That is how they talk.

Body coachers.

Your body.

Okay.

Well, I'm listening and I'm learning.

Yeah.

So that starts this weekend.

The Satyrs are separate for midnight, which means no days off from work.

Yeah.

Well, it's such a great year.

No, Passover definitely deserves hate this year.

I agree.

Sorry, we don't make the rules.

Yeah, but I ordered some.

Did you see the matzah that I ordered?

I did.

It actually looked delicious.

I ordered like Pargy candy matzah on gold belly from like Big Fat Cookie.

And it's making me excited for Passover because I'm not eating it until Passover.

So now I'm like, is it Passover yet?

You have something to look forward to.

I would recommend it.

That's one thing you can count on the juice for.

Like, we're going to make it fat, like, no matter what it is.

Like, the recipes, matzah is just like, it's literally a plain cracker.

It's, I don't even know what it's made of, like flour.

It's, it's bread ingredients, but it's bread that doesn't rise.

Yeah.

So one thing about us, like we're going to find a way to make it fat.

Like the common recipes, like matzah pizza, matzah bry, like it's chocolate covered matzah, matzah crack, like brittle.

Like we make it so fat.

So it's like a holiday when you actually could lose weight because you're not supposed to be eating bread, but we're not.

Yeah.

Also, what's going to be hard for me is no pargi loaves.

No sourdough.

Like I, as much as I love eating sourdough, I love making it too.

It's like part of my routine and just, you know, having a stock bread box.

No, no, no.

Feeding my starter.

I got to put that starter away.

Yeah, you do.

And oh my.

Yeah, this is my first Pesach as a trad wife.

So it's going to be a lot of fun.

Oh, has it only been less than a year since you started making sourdough?

I started making sourdough in about successfully in May of last year.

So yeah.

I just feel like it's been a part of our family like since our inception.

No, it's only been a year.

I'm coming up on one.

That's really crazy.

Yeah.

Happy anniversary to me.

Happy anniversary.

Oh, wait.

Do you know today's toast anniversary?

It's April 9th.

Oh my gosh.

I meant to talk to you about that.

I'm sorry.

I meant to open the show with that.

Oh, my God.

So it's our seventh year.

Wait, honey, that's insane that we haven't seen it.

Is it our seventh year?

Yeah, because last year was our big six and we made it such a big deal.

So it's our seventh year, our eighth season.

But like

our eighth year, if you include the breath.

And do we include the breath?

We don't include the breath.

And I'm glad that we don't because like it's not ours.

to the i mean it's ours but like toast is cooms afresh

okay well happy toast diversary to you and all who celebrate.

Oh my God.

How are you feeling today?

Seven years of toast in the eighth season and the ninth season.

I feel like last year I was feeling like really at a glance about it.

Yeah.

And this year, it just feels like another day.

But we made such a big deal about it last year.

And I think maybe because we did that, like I'm good for a few years.

Maybe it's a big deal.

We have cute pictures.

We had a big party at Zeroba.

We had like reels and TikToks and so many like

nostalgia themed episodes.

And now it's just going by with a

with a when do you think we'll celebrate next like big party 10 of course we have to celebrate 10.

also you know what they say that like you change as a person every seven years now i don't know if that means you change at like one eight six right but um that means in the time that we've done this show even if we were in the middle of our change four years like we have changed at least once in the time that we've done this show and i feel like that feels right do you yes i think my change year was last year or whenever I quit the vape and got on Ozempic.

Like that was the year I changed every part of who I am.

Yeah.

I would say like in the last two, three years since becoming a mom, but also not immediately, but maybe in like the year after.

That's when I change for the better.

That's beautiful.

I can't stop listening to Rascal Flatts.

And I wouldn't.

Why would you stop?

And I don't need to.

I haven't heard one good reason why.

No, it's so true.

So, yeah, we're changed women.

And if you're still here with us from what the other people that we were, we love you.

And happy toast diversity.

Maybe sound up in the comments.

What's been your favorite toast moment in the last seven years?

That's impossible to answer.

You know that.

I know, but we are running a bracket on our Instagram right now.

Hopefully, you guys have been participating in our toast madness.

Having people choose their favorite toast moments in Toast Hurstry.

I believe we're down to the final two as of yesterday.

And it was Claudia, I don't think there's a 5K.

And

when I took off my underwear at physical therapy oh my gosh it's so funny that those are top two I know that's what people chose we had people submit if you're not following us on Instagram you're missing out on a lot of good fun games you guys know I love a game yeah what's your favorite memory I couldn't pick one so don't ask me

I think any time where we've like truly just not been able to stop laughing, like a belly laugh, where the episode is like silent because we're laughing so hard, those are my favorites.

I don't, not one specifically comes to mind, but anytime we're just like cackling hags, that's my favorite.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's been an amazing seven years.

And I wouldn't want to do it with anybody else.

With anybody, period.

Yeah, anybody.

Sometimes I forget you're here.

I just want to do it alone.

No, if I am forced to do it with someone, it could only be you.

Which I think you are forced to do it with someone because you guys know solo podcasting is not my strength and it's it's tough for really anyone and the daily solo podcast i don't think it's ever been done meaning like even joe born even howard stern every day and howard robin and guests yeah so like if you have to have someone which you do

it could only be you and i i'm so glad it is and i'm so glad it's you turtleoo

well i feel like

sufficiently caught up i feel like we've at a glance enough for this toast diversary and that we could dive in in.

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It's getting harder and harder to breathe.

Oh my God, wait.

I watched The Voice last night.

Oh, and

it's actually crazy because I had watched The Voice,

what was that, a couple of weeks ago?

And I came on and said, like I said, I found the show insufferable mostly because of Michael Bublay and how this like kid came on

and did like a Frank Sinatra type of, and he was really good.

And Michael Bublay didn't turn around because he was threatened.

Jackie, what are the odds that I turn on an episode?

The exact same thing happened.

And what was even weirder was that

the dynamics of the coaches are very interesting.

So this guy comes on.

He has an amazing voice.

He's doing, you know, somewhere beyond the sea.

Not that song exactly, but like the vibe.

And Kelsey really likes him.

And Adam Levine is like, Kelsey, you should do it and block

Ballerini.

Is a judge?

Yes, she's a judge.

Adam Levine is too.

And I feel like Adam Levine hates Michael Booblai because he goes to Kelsey.

He's like, Kelsey, because she's going to press her button, block Michael Boblet.

You get one block.

And so Kelsey was like, no, he's not going to choose him.

Like, they know that he's so crazy.

He doesn't choose him.

But it turns out Michael Bublay knows this guy.

He follows him on social media because they're like, you know, he, they're like,

and a lot of these shows like take from social media.

So they take people who have like a couple hundred thousand followers posting singing covers.

So this guy has like a little bit of an audience and a little bit of a career ready.

Michael Boublet knows him, follows him and does.

And well, he didn't know, like he didn't turn for him knowing that he knew him.

He said that he knew him like from his voice.

Yeah.

So he turns around and he says the reason why he didn't choose him, he's always coming up with fake, stupid reasons.

The reason why he didn't choose him is because, you know, he's so close to the genre and he really wants people who sing the genre.

to be historically accurate with how they sing the songs.

And I guess like the Frank Sinatras of that time, they didn't sing with vibrato.

So, vibrato is like when you hold a note and you kind of like shake it.

So, like, some way.

Thank you.

And I guess the guy was doing that.

Okay, but he could just like stop doing that.

Oh, yeah.

And so Michael would be like, wait, Jackie.

Michael Blue gets on stage and is like, you know, band, pick it up.

And he's like, and you should have done this.

And he started.

Jackie, like, it was so, how anybody doesn't see this man is such a crazy narcissist.

And I'm telling you, Adam Levine and Kelsey Ballerini, like, they're picking up on it.

Like, she knew she's like, I'm not gonna waste my block.

He doesn't choose people who actually threaten him, yeah, who sound like him.

But also, if you're gonna be historically accurate and be like, copy and paste of the singer from the times, like

you're just an impersonator, then like Vegas.

No, there are a lot of people out there who are really talented and like singing like Celine Dion or singing like you know, when they can change their voices, but none of those people are famous singers because we already have Celine Dion.

No, they're famous impersonators, yeah,

yeah.

No, I completely agree.

And he's just like,

he's kind of like, he gatekeeps the genre.

Yeah, for sure.

I can't stand him.

Damn.

Yeah, hate.

Well, our first story is some new TV news because Bravo has announced their new show called Next Gen NYC.

It will be starring Gia Judice, Riley Burris, Brooks Marks, and more Gen Z in.

NYC Chaos.

Also, Ariana Bierman will be on the show.

I actually saw a cast photo and I looked at everyone and I said, oh, like Gia's random friends.

How sweet.

I did not notice that any one of them was also a Bravo Nepo baby.

So I did because there have been rumors about this show for a while.

No, I know.

And I was like, there's, there have been where it's like Gia and like a bunch of the Bravo kids are in the city.

And I looked at the photo and I said, oh my God, who else is it?

I was like, oh no, they just went with her random friends.

But it was also confusing because half the cast is not.

Bravo Nepo babies.

Like one, Amira, this girl I like from TikTok.

She's like a makeup TikToker.

She's on it.

So it's like a blend of Nepo Bravos, but also just like NYC people.

And I have to say, like, Bravo does not do a good job of casting in New York City.

It's just not something they succeed at.

New York is filled with like interesting, wealthy people.

And I feel like they're always missing the mark.

So it's too soon to tell, obviously, like we know what we know about Gia.

I think Gia is actually a very good reality star.

I think she's been making her mark on Jersey.

She'll be good.

I don't know that Brooks Marks like has what it takes.

I love Ariana Bierman.

I don't know that she has what it takes either.

Same with Riley.

Like these are just kind of people who have been real background actors and I don't know if they know how to step into the light.

Yeah, there have been rumors, not rumors, but just the idea floating around that like Gia could be on Summerhouse, which obviously she's not.

Oh.

But like

I don't.

I couldn't see it.

You know, like I feel like, yeah, she's like.

But Jackie, she's 21.

What is she going to be doing in a house with 47-year-old Kyle Coke?

i mean but that's like that's where summer house gets weird i know

like even like her as if i just maybe because we've only seen her as teresa's daughter and we're gonna see her step out into her own i just i couldn't see her like clapping back at lindsey hubbard i actually could of all i think the cast in general i couldn't see any of them like really succeeding on reality tv except gia because she has stepped into more of just like a more than a daughter role in the last couple of years.

She had beef with Melissa.

She had beef with, she's had like on-camera spats.

Like she's officially a cast member.

Yeah.

So here's who's on the show: Ariana Bierman.

She's leaving Atlanta for the first time.

She's got her high school boyfriend with her.

Can she translate her peach holding sensibilities to big city life?

That's the other thing.

I think a lot of these people don't actually live in New York.

As far as I know, Ariana Beerman's back in Atlanta.

So it's like, it's fake, too.

Okay.

I don't mind a little fake.

That, like, okay.

I can see.

Which Marks, I do believe, lives in New York.

Riley Burris.

She is determined to make it on her own in the Big Apple as an NYU graduate.

So she's

a New Yorker now.

I heard the the craziest thing about Candy Burris.

It's always so interesting to me because you forget that like beyond housewives, she's like a deeply acclaimed music producer.

Do you know Othello on Broadway?

Everyone's talking about it.

Denzel.

Candy is a producer.

Oh, wow.

Good for her.

Like it's her show.

She's just like really legit.

She is.

Also, Riley Burris and Ariana Bierman are childhood friends from Atlanta and from both their moms being on the show.

So that's a good

connection.

Then we have Ava Dash, who is the daughter of music mogul Damon Dash and fashion icon Rachel Roy.

Now that's actually a good casting.

That is a good casting.

For whatever, I don't know what the show is supposed to be.

Is it just like Rich Kids in New York?

Is it Bravo Next Gen?

I'm not sure what it is, but if it was a Rich Kids in like Rich Kids of Beverly Hills at New York Edition, she's a great casting.

Both of her parents are really famous.

I think it's about like making it in New York, whether you're

already like you come from a successful family or whatever it is, just like the the the grind which i think it's a good premise if you have and all these people even we know who their parents are but like who are they they have to be interesting yeah and they have to bring it then we have amira de spain she that's who i know she's a tick tocker okay she is paper magazine's beauty director now she is yeah i feel like that's like a title you know like yeah because she's like a full-time really big tick tocker okay well she also has a corporate job so that's cool wow then we have shai frichter he's He's a Jew.

He grew up between Israel and China before finally planting roots in New Jersey for high school.

What?

Yeah.

Joining this circle of bold, connected, and ambitious friends might be more than he bargained for.

Gia, who of course we know.

Of course.

Yep, she's on, she's a young adult who has put law school on pause and is ready to explore all that New York City has to offer.

Well, I don't think she'll be going to law school after this.

No, she also just launched a podcast.

So right, so she's a podcaster.

Then we have Brooks Marks, who is a

fashion entrepreneur with dreams of making it big.

Hudson McLeroy, I think that's Ariana's boyfriend.

Oh.

Yeah.

That's nice.

She got her boyfriend cast on the show, too.

Yeah.

And then Charlie Zakor, who has been ruling the New York City club scene since he was 14.

That's concerning.

And now has transitioned into dominating the crypto and private investment world.

That's also concerning, but that's very New York.

So this show comes out in June.

And

I think it's got a shot.

Michio, I think it's better that it's not like a strictly Bravo kids show.

That's what I thought.

And I think that's what everyone thought it was going to be.

The fact that they expanded a little bit just to be like a young New York show, kind of maybe an attempt to be what, like Vanderpump Rules of the West Coast or Southern Charm.

I think that's good, but I don't know why New York, Bravo shows about New York like are not good.

Yeah.

Well, nothing.

Obviously, The Real House is in New York, right?

NYC Prep, the Real House is in New York reboot is not good.

Summerhouse is not New York City proper.

Um, but even like the first couple of years of Summerhouse, like, they could not figure out who the fuck to cast.

Like, it was just this revolving door of freaks.

But also, let's we not forget the city.

That was a good show.

That wasn't Bravo, was it?

No, it wasn't, but it was New York City hustler.

Yeah, no, it can be done.

Making it.

If I can

make it there, I'll make it

anywhere.

It's what network was um mtb what's his name no magic johnson's son what's his name ej ej and he had like this fab crew of new york swirl what was that name it must have been a rich kid spin-off yeah yeah it didn't do well either it's a tough city to film in honestly like and bling empire nyc

only i watched that it was also a flop because i was on bed rest and i enjoyed it

yeah it's it's crazy that there's not a show that captures this.

And like, it's crazy that it's not been done successfully.

Yeah.

I think it's, it's hard because there's like a lot of wealth in New York and like true wealth.

A lot of people don't want to be on TV, which is understandable.

But there are like plenty of thirsty rich people and like, I don't know where they are.

And it doesn't even have to be

already rich people.

It could be like people in the working world.

Yeah.

You know, up and coming.

Who are coming up and like just have interesting lives.

I think it should be done.

So I this show this it's got the makings yeah it just will depend if the people are interesting and funny and witty and like and like what are they getting up to like i'm really not interested in following gia's podcasting career like i if we're gonna be following their jobs like

amira tick tock or paper magazine like that's interesting to me yeah is there a big paper magazine event just to work the door for very the city you know yeah like that's interesting but watching somebody become a podcaster like i'm really okay yeah i could i could just close my eyes and do it, you know?

But I'm glad that they're doing this because like for so long, it's like, they should do a show with Gia and Brooks Parks.

And they're doing it.

So they're doing it.

No matter how it goes, they can say they did it and they tried.

It's called Next Gen NYC, which isn't what I would have titled it.

No, it's such a bad name.

I would have called it City Slickers.

I would have called it

Real Hustlers of New York City.

And then like you could franchise it.

Yeah, that's cute, actually.

Right?

Yeah.

Or I think a term that's not used enough, YoPros.

Young professionals.

I've never even heard of that.

That's an abbreviation for young professionals, which is exactly what these people are.

YoPros of NYC?

Yeah.

And then franchise it.

Love.

Franchise.

Oh, wait.

Speaking of

New York reality stars, I...

I know you've been following Erin Lee Cheese Baby Drama.

I have been.

And I want to talk about it really briefly.

Okay, I haven't because followed her the fallout, but I saw the initial video.

And then I saw she just recently talked about it on a podcast.

She was asked.

Basically, she's made a TikTok and it was all in service.

She has a tequila brand.

So she was like promoting her brand.

It was like a piece of content to like, it was like work.

And it was the sound, telefriend to telefriend.

She's back.

And the whole premise is like she's finally having a cocktail.

She just had a baby.

And so she's holding her like.

three-week old baby in her left arm and making a cocktail, shaking the shaker in her right hand.

And, you know, eagle-eyed viewers were quick to notice like her baby's head is like falling,

slipping.

Yeah.

And being, and, you know, and the people are always critical, like, of how you hold your baby, but the fact that she's also making a cocktail, it's giving, you know, boozy mom neglecting the baby.

And her response, she was asked about it.

She was like, I saw the video and like, I saw what people saw.

Like, it looks bad, but like, this is my fourth kid.

Like, I know how to hold my baby.

Like, I'm fine.

Yeah.

And like, I actually agree.

Like, the video, it really looked like really bad.

Like, especially because she was making a cocktail.

Like, yeah,

but um,

I'm sure she actually didn't even drink the cocktail, it was just for like her tequila brand, and

yeah, she has four kids who all have normal necks.

Like, I know she's fine, yeah, that's how I felt.

So, like, the video looks so bad, and like, you're just watching that baby laying there, and you're like, That's not good.

But I, I don't even know her, but I know she knows how to hold her baby, and sometimes, like, the way that babies lay, like it can look bad, but you don't see some support that they have, or like, right.

So, I'm when I saw it, I was like, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt that the baby is fine.

I actually really do believe that like she was holding him fine.

It just looked bad.

But I just had an issue with the video in general.

Like, what are you trying to prove that you can have a cocktail a week after you give, like making a TikTok viral trend?

Sit down.

Sit down.

Like we like, and it makes it better that's, that it's in service of her tequila brand, not just her, like coming to make like a viral.

video saying I can have a cocktail after I give birth.

At least she's like, it's in service of something.

But I just like, why, why are you worried on these TikTok trends?

Like, you just had a baby.

Like, some people just do too much.

I did also like how she said in her explanation, people being like,

her also addressing the fact that she didn't delete it.

She was like, yeah, I'd like, if I would do something wrong, I would have deleted it.

And I wasn't.

So I left it up.

Like, sure, you can comment on it, but I know that my baby's fine.

And I know I'm not like drinking and throwing the baby around.

Like, it's fine.

Yeah.

So I have nothing to hide, which I actually thought was a good explanation, too.

I think the baby is fine.

I'm, I'm not genuinely worried about the baby in any way.

I just am like, there's this like idea that, oh, I'm going to make a

trendy video with the alcohol and the baby.

Like, just, it's too much.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just get in bed.

Nest.

Nest.

But I think also, like, this is her fourth child.

Like, it's not as like, you know, it's not as

good.

You get back to life quicker.

Yeah.

With like subsequent children.

But to me, I'm just like,

it's too much.

Sit down.

Yeah.

Enjoy.

Okay.

So that is NextGen NYC.

We'll see you June 3rd.

Maybe.

Our next story is a little more bravo news because Brittany Cartwright is talking to People Magazine today, revealing that her son Cruz was diagnosed with autism six months ago.

She says, I am his voice now.

She shared that Cruz is autistic and nonverbal.

She said it might not always be that way, but that's how it is right now.

The last season of The Valley, her and Jax had shared some of like Cruz's developments and, you know, things that they were worried about.

so this um just kind of like closes the loop and maybe she talks about it on this next season so like she just wanted to like put it out there in a formal way um

that he is autistic and she's sharing like what they did when they you know he at first the story was actually really crazy that like up until he was two years old he was hitting all of his benchmarks both physically and verbally some of them early words early writing early and then at some point he became non-verbal regressed kind of regressed yeah

which is so crazy yeah, which is really crazy.

And I'm sure this was also stressful on their marriage, like worrying about their child.

Um, yeah,

so

I just hope that they're in a better place and that they are can co-parent.

I don't know, I'm really excited for the valley though.

Me too.

Can I say something?

Yeah,

and maybe I'm wrong.

So, like, I haven't fully fleshed out this thought.

So, if you disagree with me, like, don't cancel me.

I feel like setting up like an interview to like drop like an update on like your

toddler's medical condition is just like a weird thing.

And I'm definitely like feeling very sensitive in my current state to like how people interact on social media with their kids, whether that's posting them, not posting them, how much they share.

Because it's something I'm taking into consideration for, you know, I'm a social media creator and I'm, you know, God willing, not going about to have a baby.

So

maybe I'm feeling like a little like judgmental of other people's choice.

Cause I'm just like looking and taking stock of like what I think works, what doesn't work.

And, you know, I just watch Ruby Frankie and like, you know, just noticing things.

Um, and I feel like this is like like a weird thing to do.

I agree with that.

Okay.

Yeah.

I don't, I, I agree just like to do a sit-down interview.

I'm sure like when you're a public person and there's things going on in your personal life, eventually you just like want to share because like you feel

compelled.

Compelled to share.

And maybe it actually might help you to to reach other people who might be going through something similar.

Um, And like, if that's what's going on in your life, like you want to talk about what's going on in your life.

Otherwise, what are you talking about?

But I agree that like doing a sit-down interview, cameras up, people magazine, photo shoot in the backyard about something to do with like your little child is a lot.

And you know who I think of?

I think of Jay Wow because I've weirdly followed Jay Wow on Instagram for 15 years.

Like I've just been with her through it all.

And I know that her older son is on the spectrum and she has shared like over the years different things they did early intervention.

And I like happened to know like a a bunch of random things and i don't know but the way she did it like wasn't so icky um

i don't know i feel like

your child's like medical developments like it's seriously not the business of the public um and i understand that like for some people it's their job but like that's too bad you know i don't know i just i've been thinking about it a lot and when i saw it i was like oh i wonder what jax thinks of it not that like he really has much not that it matters honestly and i think she has custody he fucked up like he ruined their family and i think she's a great mom i'm not saying like you know anything negative i just i'm i'm definitely feeling like hypercritical of seeing how people like put with with platforms who like you know i think we're all

we're all aware of like

the negatives of showing your kids on social media whether it's their mental health whether it's freaks pedophiles like we know all the negatives and like to see people like consciously like still do it like i'm like

yeah

yeah but that's what everyone does no i know people people do it than don't do it.

Yes.

And it's so beneficial.

You make so much more money.

Your views go up.

Like kids are just, and it's like gross when you think about like how successful kids are on the internet, like why it makes content better.

It's just weird.

And so I get it, but like live in a smaller house and protect your kids.

Sorry.

Like that's my thought.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think people would agree with you, but it is crazy how many people do it.

Yeah.

And like, I just watched Ruby Frankie.

So it's like, it's really good.

It's top of mind.

Yeah.

I understand.

Well, are you going to watch that at least season one?

I keep meaning to ask you.

I really think that you should.

Season one, no.

I'm going to watch season two and just, oh, you'll have to answer my questions for me.

Okay.

Happy to.

You know?

Happy too.

But I'm happy for Brittany because she seems like she's in a really good place and like things have stabilized.

And she's been through it.

And yeah.

And so, you know, whatever she's, whatever she wants to do, let her do.

Yeah.

Let her do.

Our next story.

Are you ready for it?

I don't know if you're going to be ready for this.

Why?

Because Keenan Thompson is sharing a health diagnosis after suffering in silence for years.

Oh, no.

The SNL star revealed that over two years ago, he began.

This is.

Is it funny?

No, but it reminds me of like you when you're like, when people are brave and they share that they have eczema, you know?

Yeah, no.

And my thing is, like, I'm tired of people acting brave, sharing that they have acne, like we all do.

But what I'm going to say next is going to sound like one of those things, but it's actually like more serious, okay?

But it is actually brave.

Not brave, but it's like, it sounds like it was seriously pain like it's you know he was in pain he began privately suffering from

painful acid reflux

and it got so detrimental that it began affecting his work before he finally sought help he said i noticed i would get hoarse a lot easier when i'm doing the show losing my voice quicker but also uncomfortable sleepless nights because i'm burping up acid maybe he's pregnant no turns out that he has gird which is called gastroesophageal reflux disease a condition where stomach acid repeatedly flows back up into the esophagus and irritates its lining he had been trying to manage the pain on his own with like you know acid reflux management but right stop working tums um then he acid reflux management

it's not funny

no no it's not funny and honestly like as somebody who's for the first time dealing with acid reflux

dealing with that every single chronically

horrible but i tell you my acid reflux which is literally i'm experiencing for the very first time has so negatively impacted my mental health over the last couple of months.

It is horrible.

It affects your sleep.

It affects your ability to talk.

It affects your ability to breathe.

I think that this is so real.

But yes, the way you said it at first, like, yeah, we all get heartburned.

Move on.

Yeah.

But he learned that there's a real medical term for it and began making lifestyle changes and taking medicine to fight.

his GERD.

He said he felt relief immediately.

God bless.

I feel great.

I'm in a much healthier kind of space with my daily lifestyle and meal decision making and all that good stuff.

I'm in a good place.

So I'm happy for him because that is really painful and uncomfortable.

And I imagine that's a hard thing to like go to the doctor and be like, is this more than the average?

Right.

Like everyone has acid reflux, but like this feels like more than normal.

Yeah.

And like, seriously, may this type of medical disease never find me?

It's horrible.

Yeah.

I've never had, did you ever have acid reflux before pregnancy?

Never.

I didn't even know what it was.

I just thought it was similar to Hartburn.

It's so much worse.

No, it is the next phase of Harbour.

Like it stems from Hartburn, but it's crazy.

It's

horrible.

Yeah, it really is.

So I actually really am sympathetic to Keenan.

You know, that's my boy.

Yeah.

And did his Uber driver like ever mention any of this?

Any of this?

He did say that Keenan struggles privately more than you know.

And just to like go easy on him for that, but he didn't go into specifics.

Obviously, he respects the attorney client privilege.

Yeah.

That's really sad.

Yeah.

But also I love Keenan.

But good to know that GERD is a thing.

Yeah,

I love an acronym.

I love an acronym that like has a vowel that so you can like say it.

Do you know what I mean?

Like you can't say like, I guess you could say like ASPCA.

Like

I BS.

Right, right.

TMJ, Timaja.

But when

Shalamay.

Right.

When you can actually say.

Oh, that's like, we were just talking about Remy's.

Oh, yeah.

That was a good one.

Sadie.

Sadie.

The type of surgery she got was like S-A-D-E, and they call it Sadie.

I love, maybe it's because, you know, I'm like, I'm a very phonetic person.

We love acronyms, you and your husband.

We do.

We love acronyms together.

Literally, we're having a BFL after this.

A big fat lunch.

Yum.

Yes, because we have to go to the doctor.

And, you know, I can't go on an empty stomach.

Are we going to go to the spot?

Which spot are you referring to?

The spot next to the doctor's office.

No, no, I'm not.

Kind of over that spot.

Oh, you're wrong for that.

No, I know.

But we are having like a BFL.

I love like acronyms, and that's why, like, that Jake Shane TikTok series, he does nimming.

We're nimming, and he's like,

IASH.

I'm so hungry.

Like, it's seriously me and Ben.

I love it.

Yeah, it really is.

WHF.

Work from home.

HF.

Work home from.

We're having fun.

It is fun.

I like it.

It is fun.

I lie.

I like it.

You will love it.

You will love it.

Why, why?

W-W-I.

Ye-yill-willy.

Ye-yil-willy.

You, you will love it.

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our next story i feel compelled to share it because we've taken a break from talking about the it ends with us drama right yes but i think but there also hasn't been a lot no there hasn't been a lot but constant back and forth and suits and not people watching

like t-l-d-r um but something in Blake's original complaint that really stuck with us was the birthing scene, right?

I know for me that was like a big thing and for you too.

He showed the video of his wife giving birth nude and he said like

a bunch of nude and just and then he cast like his friend to be the OBGYN.

So the friend OBGYN is speaking out.

Oh, wow.

And he is revealing onset details that may tear apart her nearly nude birth scene claim.

Okay.

Having said that, just like not to be, you know, contrarian, but this is

just his friend.

It's Justin Baldoni's friend.

He is his friend.

But his name is Adam Monshine, and he appeared alongside Blake and It Ends With Us, claiming that, and he's saying the movie star mischaracterized their scene together in her sexual assault harassment lawsuit against Justin Baldoni.

He said, I'm not going to speculate as to Miss Lively's motivations for mentioning me in the complaint.

Needless to say, my experience working with her is very different than the one that she described.

Indeed, I was surprised to read her description of the scene.

She alleged in her initial complaint and the amended version filed in February that she was very disturbed by many of Baldoni's actions on set, including new scenes he chose to have in the film, such as a violative birthing scene for which he cast his friend as her OBGYN.

She said he introduced his best friend to play the role of OBGYN when ordinarily a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor.

She felt that the selection of his friend for this intimate role, in which the actor's face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive.

Birth scene was invasive and humiliating.

That's the complaint.

So Monshine, who is the OBGYN in the movie, maintains that everything that occurred when they filmed was above board.

In response to her claim that she was, quote, nearly nude, he alleges, her costume included a full hospital gown, black shorts, and torso covering prosthetic to make her appear pregnant in addition to whatever personal garments she chose.

He further claims that she never complained or expressed discomfort at any point because nothing unusual or improper occurred.

It was entirely professional.

He also says that he takes offense to her implication that he was not qualified for the role.

He said, Miss Lively.

I saw what she said.

Well, that it was a friend instead of a local actor.

He said

just that it was, it was unordinary.

Miss Lively's insinuations regarding my qualifications are offensive as my bona fides are easily searchable online.

Lastly, I was in fact a local hire.

My wife and I are from New York and spend significant time there.

As such, I, like any actor accepting that contract, was required to cover my own travel and living expenses in connection with the job.

That's why they would hire a local actor.

So he was a local actor and also a friend.

In her suit, she said, is a chaotic crowd and utterly lacking in industry standard protections for filming nude scenes.

However, he

disputes that and said, if I'm called to testify in the case, I will answer truthfully and more freely, whatever is asked of me with all the legal protection that affords.

In particular, by noting that Miss Lively was not nearly nude in the scene we shot together.

I just want to say.

I know everybody thinks I'm like so teen Blake and like unable to see.

I don't agree with one thing this guy said.

Like if you could go through one more time, all of his points, I could dispute every single one of them.

So that's...

And just because he perceives, like, he's not the one who's nude.

No, no, no.

It wasn't weird.

Like, she didn't say anything.

So that does, that means nothing was wrong.

That's not true.

She could have been uncomfortable and not said anything because that's like what you think you're supposed to do.

But

black shorts, a hospital gown, a torso covering.

Okay, so by the way, I feel like that's really misleading because, yes, so you're standing next to Blake Live.

You can't see anything.

He's the doctor.

He's in between her vagina.

So her wearing a hospital gown doesn't mean anything.

Yeah, I guess if you're wearing little black shorts and there's like a, you're a man in, in between your legs, like that's like pretty intimate, you know, her torso being covered, that doesn't matter.

We're talking about her vagina.

Yeah, but she was also saying like a nearly like a topless scene almost,

which is not topless.

And I'm imagining the shorts to be like little biker shorts.

That's how I see it.

Me too.

But we need, if they're flowy or biker is important.

Just want to say.

Yes, it is.

I have to imagine like under the gown, they would have to be biker.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I just feel like everything he's saying is like, well, that's easy for you to say.

You're not the one in the seat.

Yes, but everything he's saying, I could see how that would be industry standard stuff.

Like however.

And I don't agree that like him, that him being

cast for the role is normal.

I think it's a drink.

The director's friend.

Yes, to Justin, he's a local actor.

To Blake, he's Justin's friend because he is both things.

He is true.

And because it was so, because it's like a sensitive scene, like, just go buy the book.

Like, it being your friend, I actually maintain that that's weird.

This does take a little bit of sting out of the story, though.

It does.

I mean, everything that she alleged, the sting has been taken out.

There has been like a very effective response to all of her claims, and she has not really formally responded.

I don't know if she's waiting for court or whatever.

But yes, everything that she alleged that when we first read, it was like, oh, the astroturfing, like all of it, it all seems to have like sort of, there seems to be an answer for everything.

I'm just not so easily swayed.

I know people don't like my thoughts on this, but I'm just not.

No, I like that you're standing your ground, whether it's you're on the right ground or not.

i just want to be clear i'm not standing my ground because i don't want to be wrong like sometimes like you know you have to admit like i have yet to see something like so foolproof and like i don't know if this lady's saying like this guy's freaky and i've always got like weird freaky vibes from him like you know what i i'm gonna believe it until i really have a reason not to yeah but i guess there's a difference between being like a freaky annoying guy and like sexual harassment no but maybe like well i i also think like the words we use for stuff like have sort of lost their meaning because i think something can be inappropriate without it being sexual harassment harassment and maybe like you know it's not by the book and it made her uncomfortable but is that sexual harassment I don't know yeah I don't know no I admire that you're standing your ground because I don't feel good about being so unscrupled on this you know no but and the thing is like I don't even feel a particular way like about Blake live I feel like up until this thing like I never even I definitely like my bias is that I think Justin Balzoni is freaky and I've always thought there was like something weird about him I didn't like his like brand of feminism and his man but and like having a podcast like I definitely

i come into this with preconceived notions about him in a negative way but i don't like stan blake lively even though she's like taylor's best friend like i've never like been a huge fan of her and ryan

friends

a lot of bad friends she's actually bad at choosing friends like who are famous that's i would never choose the people that she chooses like so I don't know.

I don't even feel like this.

And I'm not one of these women who are like, you know, believe everything women say.

Like some women lie for sure.

I don't know why.

I'm just, I haven't been moved yet.

And I'm open to being moved.

I've yet to see something like that compelling.

I don't know, him just being like, it wasn't uncomfortable.

How the fuck do you know?

You're the one with your hands in someone's vagina.

Like, get out of here.

It's just not your business to decide what's comfortable and not.

Like, you can, you can state facts about

mine is extremely subjective, where he was like, this was, nobody was uncomfortable.

It was perfectly standard.

That's subjective.

And

that's his experience.

I'm happy for him that he had a good time.

Yeah.

But the description of the clothes, when we're told that she's like there to be nearly nude,

that's, that's factual.

It's contraction, contradictory.

Yeah.

So

they would say the sting's been taken out of it.

And I, maybe for you, you'll have to wait and see the trial because it is hard when like some because maybe she has a perfectly lost, well, I was wearing shorts and then you made me take them off.

Like, right.

She has something to say back to this.

And that's what we'll see in a trial.

But the way things come out like this, very piecemeal.

Yes, I am 100% reserving judgment on this.

Like I will admit that I was wrong, wrong, if I am wrong, during trial.

Like, I can't keep up with the court of public opinion, especially when one person is very actively, like, there is, like, a well-thought-out strategy and campaign from Justin Baldoni's team to clear his name.

Whereas Blake seems to be, like, not responding and waiting till trial.

So I am really reserving.

If I'm wrong,

I will be happy to say that I was wrong.

I want to be completely honest about that.

I just, I don't know.

I don't feel like I am, but I never feel like I'm wrong, you know?

As you shouldn't.

Such is life as turdy Lou.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Which is some sad news.

So maybe I should have reordered things to not end on a sad note.

But something real surprising news that I saw

a few days ago is the queen of Versailles has announced that her husband has passed away, David Siegel.

And then also to add just more tragedy, her sister died three days later from a drug overdose, which is just,

and she shared that, the Jackie Siegel.

If you don't know Jackie Siegel, you guys ain't living.

Give Jackie Siegel a reality show.

Well, she had a reality show.

And if you haven't seen Queen of Versailles, you absolutely have to see it.

And so I saw her announcement that David passed away.

So I went to her Instagram and I forgot they're making a Broadway show of Queen of Versailles starring Kristen Chenoweth.

And it's coming to Broadway in the fall.

Tell everyone like what the documentary Queen of Versailles is about.

It's really interesting.

So the documentary was set to follow the Siegel family, Jackie and David Siegel, like super wealthy family that lived in Florida.

They were on track to build the largest residential home in America that was modeled after Versailles.

So they called her the queen of Versailles and they were filming the building process.

They have a huge family, so many kids.

The way that they live is actually not what you would expect.

I think that's why they endeared so many people.

They're not just like rich people that, you know, no, they're oddly relatable.

Very relatable.

They're also like hoarders.

Yeah.

It was just not what you would think.

It was giving like TLC.

And also like a loving family.

And they're filming them as they're building the house in 2008.

And his business is timeshares and all of a sudden his company like goes bankrupt stock market every house housing market changes them they can't complete building the house and the house just like sits there and that's kind of how it ends um in the years since i think he recovered his business and yeah like became wealthy again and i think they might i don't know if they live in the house now They live in a house that's big and beautiful.

I think that the property itself sold years later.

I don't think that's where they ended up living once they recovered.

It was very Schitt's Creek.

I actually think a lot of the early seasons of Schittz Creek was like inspired by them, at least the house.

Yeah.

So she shared on her Instagram a few days ago.

I want to personally reach out and let you know that my husband, David Allen Siegel, passed away this morning.

I was lucky enough to share 25 wonderful years with David, and together we raised eight incredible children.

His life and legacy live on through them.

Also, one of their children passed away in the years since the documentary, Victoria.

Yeah.

So there's been a lot of like tragedy too.

And then she said three days later, she just announced that her sister died from an accidental overdose.

They were also like a couple that I felt, you know,

were in love, you know, I think when you

were to look at people that wealthy, right?

Like she was younger than him.

I think she was like a former beauty queen.

He's an older man and you just like.

And she wasn't so young.

She wasn't like 20, but she was like 40 and what was he, like 70?

Maybe 60s.

And so you would think like they're a certain kind of couple.

Yeah.

Like for them.

But they weren't like that.

They weren't like that.

They were very much in love and they had like a very sweet relationship and they were married 25 years.

So like that's

why I think the documentary did so well because it was just.

It was so unexpected.

It was so unexpected, but they were also very relatable.

And now this, which is very sad.

I didn't know about all the other things, like that they had a kid who passed away and then her sister too.

That's really sad.

Really sad.

She's a great follow on Instagram.

She is.

You have to go see the show when it comes on breakfast.

1,000%.

It's going to be amazing.

Is it a music house?

Definitely.

Kristen Chenwith.

You don't cast Kristen Chenwith.

Kristen Chenwith sing.

No, it's true.

And if Kristen Chenoweth is cast in it, that means like Broadway bigwigs are like, it has good investors, good producers, good theater, everything.

Everyone's attached.

Did you see that David Foster has a new show on Broadway?

He did the music for a show called Boop about Betty Boop.

That sounds

like schools, but it's not.

Broadway's really having a moment.

So everyone's talking about Othello.

And like, I feel like it's having a moment across like a multitude of

plays.

So, Othello with Denzel Washington, Nicole, John Singer.

Yeah,

Sunset Boulevard.

Jonathan Groff is in a new show that everyone's talking about.

He's playing Bobby Darren.

So, it's all like old school music, very Michael Boble.

And

Gracie Lawrence, the girl who replaced Renee Rapp in

Sex Lives, is in it too.

Oh, cool.

Then there was just a new show.

Everyone was there.

Did you see Kaya Gerber on Broadway?

Yes, I did.

what show was that good day

it was uh it was called

i'll look

oh oh george clooney's in it that's why um that's why they went the show is called

good night and good luck good night

went to the premiere um

everyone was there everyone was there broadway definitely is having a moment i used to hate broadway shows like

I just never wanted to ever go to one, but now I want to go see some shows.

Not even because they're having a moment.

I I just feel like I've changed because it's been seven years and now I like shows.

Well, I've changed, but Broadway remains the same.

I hate Broadway shows.

I think we should go see a great one.

You know who else was at the premiere?

Your favorite?

One of your favorite actors.

I could give you one million guesses and you would never guess.

Who?

Richard Kind.

I fucking love Richard Kind.

I am shocked that you know him by name.

I only know him.

Of course I do.

He's from Curb.

Yep.

But he was also in that show, Amazon Prime Show, Red Oaks that we loved.

They need to bring that show back.

He's been in everything.

Like, I, he's a true working actor.

He probably goes to the grocery store.

He's totally fine.

Maybe some people ask him for pictures of it.

Because

if he goes to Barney Green Grass, if he goes to like, yeah, Al Zay Bars.

He can't walk into Zay Bars.

No, no.

He's like a Jewish king, but he's so classic.

So classic.

So maybe you should...

Well, you'll see.

Queen and Versailles.

You will.

Yeah, that I would see.

Yeah, to report back.

You saw Funny Girl recently.

You liked that.

I did.

That is the last Broadway show that I saw.

The last one I saw was Gazillion Bubbles.

It actually wasn't on Broadway.

It was off 8th.

But it was like Times Square-y.

No, actually, it really wasn't.

It was Hell's Kitchen.

That's e that's also a big Broadway show.

Alicia Keys music is

in a show called Hell's Kitchen.

Yeah, Broadway's definitely having like a revival.

Happy for them.

Because

they suffered during that.

COVID hit hard.

That was bad for Broadway.

Yeah.

It was bad for everyone.

Yeah.

That's our show, you guys.

I'm so hungry.

Time for my BFL.

You said BFL.

Like, oh my God, my stomach is.

The show ended.

The show as we knew it ended.

That's a show killer.

A thousand percent.

Like, I'm so hungry.

I have to go.

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