The Last 10 Pounds with Jared Freid: Tuesday, June 10th, 2025

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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

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Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Tuesdays.

We are back on the toast in studio.

I'm joined by my co-host today, Jared Free.

Jared, welcome back back to the toast.

It is great to be here.

Thank you so much for having me.

It's always a pleasure to see you, to be amongst the toasters who I see on the road.

Every now and again, I hear from a toaster.

Oh, I love that.

Yes, they're like, I heard you way back when, and go back on the toast.

I get asked, go back on.

I'm like, I'm here.

The Del Rey daddy is here.

So Jared is here today.

You have not been on the toast in years.

I can't remember.

I remember the last time we co-hosted together, probably like five years ago.

Yeah.

But you are a comedian, podcaster, podcaster, creator, all of the things that qualify you to sit in this chair today.

I took the test outside and then I passed.

I was able to go, hey, guys,

a lot of you have been asking

your skincare.

Yeah, I said it well.

So, no, it is a pleasure to be back.

I moved down to the Florida area and I'm like.

You've been living here like two weeks.

Like two weeks.

And I'm trying to see if it can work.

I'm in Del Rey, which I am like, I'm singing the praises of Del Rey.

It's weird because I was in New York 18 years.

You sound so New York and like everything about you is so New York.

I'm Northeast.

Like I'm from outside of Boston, but like I'm like the most Northeast person.

Like I realize it when I go on the road.

You probably realize it when you go on the road.

You're like.

Yeah.

I realize it doing this show.

Like so many things that we say, people will be like, what did she say?

Even yesterday, I called a cream saver a sucking candy and they're like, a sucking candy?

I'm like, what else do you call it?

I mean, that's like literally every grandma from, you know, the Northeast.

Have a soccer.

You want a soka?

Take a soka.

Yeah, yeah.

No, it is, it's like, again, that's the pleasure of seeing the country is like, oh my God, there's a whole thing here that I had no idea.

I went to San Jose.

I put up a video on TikTok.

I'm like, San Jose, I didn't know San Jose was near San Francisco.

I've heard of San Jose my whole life.

Yeah.

I just was like, California.

Like, why would I know in the same way, why would someone know where Worcester is in New England?

Like, these are like, and then everyone's like, you don't know where San Jose is?

I'm like, no, I'm not from here.

I don't know your weird Silicon Valley thing.

But it's cool to see.

And now being here, I'm like, the New York, I'm like drenched in the New York.

Like, I went to a gym.

But it looks like you're trying to cover up with your t-shirt.

No, I'm a Florida man.

And your dolphins hat.

Like, you jump ships so quickly.

Yeah, screw this.

I'm a homer.

I'm just like, screw that team.

I'm on this team now.

No,

I went to the gym.

They don't even have lockers.

Like, I'm like, well, where do I put my stuff?

And they're like, there's a copy.

I'm like, a copy.

I have to like

touch other people's things.

Like, get away.

Everything's going to be stolen.

They're like, I know I'm the weirdo.

You know, like, I think that's something New Yorkers, because we're so loud and annoying, you know, sometimes that brashness comes off as like that we think it's better.

No, it's just different.

You live like a weirdo in New York.

Yeah.

But I think that New Yorkers, I do think that it's better, but that's how they cope, you know?

It's, well, everyone's coping.

Right.

Everyone is coping.

You know, how many people, the thing I'll never do is.

People down here are like, we have so much, like they tell themselves other things.

Everyone's insecure.

Everyone is insecure.

Just remember that.

Every start at.

If you start at everyone's insecure, the world makes like a lot more sense.

Like I have people, I'll be like, yeah, I moved to Del Rey, and they'll be like, isn't it horrible in New York?

I'm like, no, I lived in the West Village there.

It was pretty great.

I used to go get wasted every night and, you know,

stumble home, you know, like what it didn't feel unsafe to me, but they have to make sure they're, you know, everyone has to like make sure their move was correct.

You know, right.

Everyone's looking for a validation because these are big life choices.

And it's like nice to hear you made the right one.

Absolutely.

And you fear making the wrong one.

Absolutely.

This is like a very millennial thing too.

Like we're the first generation to be living online and like, right.

We want to make sure the thing we put out 10 years ago wasn't a huge mistake and something everyone else is talking about.

You see it a lot in Austin because Austin was like that first,

hey, move here.

You'll have a new life.

And all the Austin people are like, isn't it great?

Tell me it's great.

You're like, chill, it's okay.

Do you think about moving to Austin?

Because that's another part of

the comedy scene.

To me, it was a lifestyle choice.

My parents are, you know, in Boca, the Southeast Florida area.

You know, my parents are here.

I like hanging out with my parents, even though they drive me insane.

I kind of like, am, am, like, my soul is in like is injected when I run around them.

Like they're they're like they're

yeah, it's in the most horrific way.

Like it's like them being like offering me their Ozempic, you know, while I'm sitting at dinner.

Have you ever taken it?

No, come on.

Don't even, what an insulting question

you have.

No, I listen, I think about it every day.

But I don't know if I could be offered Ozempic as a person who would be like able to take it and say no.

Yeah.

Well, there's a big difference between taking it and being offered it.

Like, oh, I've had had it taken two seconds ago.

Yeah, but taking it's different.

Do you know what I mean?

What do you mean?

Like, if I was like, hey, do you want some gum?

What's the first thing you would say?

Does my breath stink?

Oh,

they're calling me fat.

Right.

They're saying, here's my

fat fuck medicine.

You need it.

I mean, my mom and dad, they don't stop talking, but they both did, you know, they're both on it.

And listen, I think about it.

You know, I wonder.

But no, even last year.

By the way, when I said you don't look like you take Ozempic, I didn't mean that you're fat.

No, I mean,

I'm a big no.

Listen.

You don't get like jacked on Ozempic.

I have trying to, I've been trying to lose 10 pounds my whole life.

So I.

That's what Ozempic is for.

I know, I know.

That's the problem.

It's like the X-Men.

Are you a fan of the X-Men?

Never saw the, I didn't take you for an X-Men.

But you can explain the reference.

The X-Men reference is they're like born with X-Men traits, whatever their genetic mutation is, they have a power.

But then in every few episodes of X-Men, there's like, we can cure it.

And it's like, well, we'll take away what's me.

Oh, it's true.

It's like like, if you lose those last 10 pounds, like, will you still be funny?

Like, will you still have those insecurities?

Or will you just be like a man living on the beach, like with your shirt off, not thinking about nothing?

Right.

But I lose what makes me me.

I, I understand that.

And I do think if you'd never had those 10 pounds, like, you wouldn't be you.

Right.

And I feel that way about me thinking about like my life.

Like those 10 pounds have made me who I am.

Absolutely.

And now I'm settled in who I am.

And I'm ready to part of it.

I'm ready to go away from who.

Yeah.

Like, I've been me for a long time.

I'm done with it.

You're right.

There is a, like, I do want to try.

Then, like,

like, all I talk about is

what I eat, what I'm going to eat, how much I eat.

That's what people talk.

That's what people who go on OzMPIC say, like, the food noise, they call it.

Like, that's what you're thinking about.

That's what you're talking about.

Like, what would you do if you didn't have to think about that?

Like, you could cure cancer.

Think about the potential.

It doesn't mean you wouldn't think about anything.

Just imagine what you could accomplish.

Jackie, you're speaking my language.

And then when I didn't cure cancer, I would feel bad that I've done nothing with my time.

Right.

And now, look at what I'm saying.

Because now now you have this excuse.

Right.

The excuse is that last night I needed to have pirates booty until 3 a.m.

Yeah.

So

this is no, this is why I love this show.

This is why I love coming on here.

I feel like I relate to you, the audience, in a way that's like pretty spiritual.

Like I do feel that whenever I'm around a toaster.

But I, no, I mean, my parents, I was with them yesterday.

They're going, they're going, yeah, you got to watch out when you go out in, you know, Florida.

Anyone who moves here, midlife, like they're a loser.

Like,

they've, something went wrong in their life.

I'm like, you're talking to a guy.

I'm like, I'm here midlife.

Right.

I'm, yeah, 40.

But, you know, this is my midlife crisis moving here from New York, I think.

And also, you're only here on trial, you said.

You're staying here a few months, but so far.

So far, I love it.

It feels like I'm on vacation.

I'm like, when does the vacation end and reality it?

I mean,

I'm happy most places.

I think I'm pretty easy even though I complain about everything.

No, but that's like, that makes you happy.

Yeah, it makes me happy to complain.

Like, that's scratching a bug bite.

You know, like, I love scratching a bug bite.

But, like, whenever I go on the road, I can see why someone would live in that area.

And I think for me, right.

Do you look up Zillow every time you go on the road?

Like, every city or something?

Every city I'm in.

But also here.

Like,

I'm Zillow in the Southeast Florida area.

I mean, those emails, that's like the best email I get all day.

Like, I'm looking at everything.

I just, I like it.

And the other thing is big city to a small town.

Like Del Rey has 64,000 people.

I went to Penn State.

That's State College, Pennsylvania.

That's the same size.

I've never had that.

So as far as dating, I'm single.

I do a podcast about dating.

It's kind of nice to live the life that we've had written into us about.

It's kind of like relate to people who are in a small town and dealing with dating struggles.

Even right away, I'll say.

It's a Hallmark movie.

It's truly a Hallmark movie.

I'm the

lawyer woman moving home to her small town.

Yeah.

You are the lawyer woman.

I am.

I'm the hot shot lawyer who moved back to Del Ray.

Hopefully some young contractor can sweep me off my feet.

It is weird.

I mean, like, even like I said, I've been thinking a lot about this.

Like, you know, I try to think about my life and I, you know, there takes a certain amount of vulnerability to put yourself out there.

I've talked about being single, being in a relationship, and then this small town thing we get written in about.

And I'm like, I actually think what I'm going through right now and feeling so good about it.

I think anyone living in a big city, like if you did a three-month stint somewhere else, it kind of feels like when I got here, like I just downloaded the app, the dating app for the first time in years.

Yeah.

That first moment where you're getting a lot of matches, you're seeing all the new people.

There's an excitement.

There's a jolt of energy.

And I'm sure that like the dating apps that goes away, you've seen them all.

Yeah.

You know, and that, that's probably small town stuff too.

That's pros and cons.

That's life, you know.

So you're dating down here.

I've gone on dates.

Yeah.

I've, yeah.

I've, I'm, I'm dating everywhere.

Are you looking for something serious, like in earnest?

Or you're like, if it finds me, it finds me.

I think most men, the problem with dating apps is you can put like looking for long, but open to short.

And I think that's every man's,

you know, setting.

Yeah.

Is, you know,

lots have been made about the female version of like the Disney princess, the, you know,

you know, the Prince Charming sweep me off my feet.

I think there's a male version of that where it's like, look at any coming-of-age movie.

It's always like, the cool girl who gets it.

Oh my God, no one else knows she's awesome but me.

That's a male thing.

Yeah.

So I, I, you know, I'm always, I've been, you know, I feel ridiculous because I do want a long-term relationship.

I do want to get married, have kids, all those things, you know, like live the toaster lifestyle.

But

I do, but I'm not, also, my life is good, you know, and I think that's the problem.

I make a joke that sounds awful all the time.

I'm like, the only thing that could ruin my life is a woman.

But that's the same for anyone listening, male, female,

gender aside.

If you're like

35, you're making money, you're living well, you got your phone, you got your, your sweatpants, you got your good spot on the couch, the only thing that can really like

ruin that whole thing is someone, you falling in love and it being the wrong person for you right

and i have that fear that's like my fear of commitment has like evolved over the years into like it being someone who's just gonna like kind of take from your

spot and your things and that's a way to put it that's

stress relationships could be stressful right i like i like my life i like my family i like i want to bring you know again it's like the cubby hole i just want someone to like and that's not how it works i understand like i sound ridiculous it could work that way in a in a not good situation but they could also add so much value you know that's the point is is it goes both ways it could be the most wonderful thing i know i would be i i do believe i we've had uh psychics and um

uh we've had what are they called mediums mediums come on the show and like do a session with me uh kelly knight she's great she came on the show and and did a session with me and you know she was like i think you're at your best form when you if you found someone and she's i do believe that like i i think but um

until then i you you know you kind of there's a lot of guilt associated like you meet so many nice people and I don't know.

I'm just like I don't know how to get to the next thing and that's that's the problem I think for a lot of people.

I don't think I'm alone.

I understand.

What's the longest relationship you've had?

Two and a half years.

I was you know, I've lived with someone.

I've I've had girlfriends and then you know since then it's been like three monther

maybe six month or.

And again, the other thing is like, there's this, what we're doing.

Right.

You know, bringing someone into this world is tough.

I don't, and I have gone through that bringing someone into this world and then out of this world.

Yeah.

I, I, that really.

You probably wouldn't do it again the same way.

No.

It's painful.

Yeah.

It's it, and I feel a lot of guilt.

Not, you know, in the way anyone would.

Nothing went wrong, nothing, nothing extreme, but it was like.

Yeah, it's just a weird situation.

And it's funny because people would be like, you know, don't you keep your private life private.

You're like, but no, this is so fun.

And like, it's good for my content, it's good for our relationship, and we're working together, and like it's fun to bring someone in, right?

But there is that, like, downside that's like, oh, now I know why people warn you about this.

Of course, my mom, I mean, I talk about my mom.

My mom will call me and go, Everyone's talking about the video you put up about the trash.

What did you put up about the trash?

And I put up this video.

She goes through the trash.

You can't throw anything away.

Like, you went through her trash.

No, I threw away something and she says, Don't throw away garbage in the garbage.

How insane is that?

She doesn't throw herself away.

She goes through every piece of garbage.

My whole life, that's why I am a hoarder.

She would go through with her hands.

Why'd you throw away this tissue?

And I'd have to explain the tissue.

Can you imagine?

I blew my nose and are you sick?

Like it would lead.

You're dealing with this detective that's always on the case for nothing.

I don't know why I'm being accused.

That's my whole life.

My mom, and my mom, but now, like, my mom's a version of this.

My mom's never going to be out of my material until her death.

And then I'll have to hear, oh my God, what are you going to do for your comedy?

Like, I'll have someone say that to me.

I'll be like, I'll find something.

Can I mourn my mom?

Fucking dead.

She's not dead.

She's fine.

She's more alive than anyone.

Super happy to hear it.

Yeah.

No, my parents are wild animals.

And they're still married.

So it's like, you have a really good example.

Yeah.

Well, that's also the scary part, too.

Yeah.

You know, look how hard it is for them.

And they're happily married.

This is happy.

God.

I feel like.

Screaming at each other a lot of people who have like parents who are still together it could really go either way in any situation but i feel like the bar is also set really high regardless of their it's i mean mishagas mishagas is the best word yesterday my

my mom goes you're eating look at he's like a pig and then has barbecue sauce on her face and i'm like the pot calling the kettle black they're like made for each other you know it's just yeah they're total characters i mean i did a i just taped a special and it's all about going to the beach with my parents.

Oh, sweet.

The whole hour is one story about going to the beach with my parents.

When does it come out?

I hope we'll see.

I hope we sell it to wherever we sell it.

Your previous special is on Netflix?

It's on Netflix right now.

Yes.

Big Flex.

Thanks.

Big Flex.

What's it called that people want to do?

37 and Single.

I mean, to get on these topics, 37 and Single, it's on Netflix, and the first half is about dating.

The second half is about body issues in my family.

Oh, so.

Classic stuff here at the Toast.

I mean, should you might like it.

Yeah.

Toasters.

So

yeah, I, but the next one, I was started telling the story about going to the beach in Del Rey with my parents, and it was a two-minute story, and it just kept growing.

Like, people were like,

what, you know, I was like, I guess I should talk about my dad.

I guess I should talk about my mom.

And it turned into this hour thing that like, it was like such a pleasure to go on the road and have like, first of all, I know, I, you know, I talk about being Jewish kind of in the way that I talk about being Jewish, just like, not really.

You know, like, I'm, I'm a high holiday jew who went to summer camp so like that's about as jew as i get where'd you go to camp cedar you went to vega i know so

same camp circles so um

so like It's funny because Seinfeld never mentions he's Jewish, but it's a Jewish show.

Right.

So it was cool to go on the road and do this show that was like a Jewish story, but then have every background come up to me and go, that's my mom.

That's my dad.

Oh my God.

The boomers.

And then Jews come up,

the Jews like hilarious.

They would always go up to me and go, does anyone get it?

After like a whole crowd was

do people who aren't Jewish get it?

And it's like, they were all around you.

So it's like, but it's, so that was like the greatest pleasure in the world.

But like to talk about them is like, I never wanted, I thought talking about your parents was stupid.

Like I was like, who would care about them?

And then they would just do these crazy things.

Do you ever like have them on your podcast?

No, they wouldn't be good.

They wouldn't translate.

Like you have to sort of decode them and make them entertainment absolutely like if i put them in my my mom would be like hi

and i'd be like no this isn't it this isn't what you do

i understand you know what i'm talking about like i'm sure your parents the same way like you go you know all of them they're all and it's it's also that generation like they're so confident the boomers are so cocky and it's it they just waltz through life and like millennials we're so not cocky we're like the most self-conscious generation And

you know, then we isn't like so much better.

No, it goes both ways.

I wish I was a little bit more delusional.

Yeah.

I wish I didn't think about every little thing.

But maybe it comes with age.

Do you find getting older, like you are sort of letting go of some of those things or not?

I'm eating like I have let go, but I'm not eating anything.

But I do.

Yeah, I just don't.

I just, I just cry about it more privately.

Right, right, right.

So, no, I, it is

getting older is fine.

I, I think that's the

struggle with dating, too.

Like, you know, when, you know, with dating stuff, and I know we're doing some advice stuff.

I'm sure there's a lot of people.

We're doing Dear Toasters, you guys.

DTQ, everyone, you'll be okay.

Dear Toasters with Jared, and we're going to do some like fun dating ones.

If we do some dating ones, I think the...

I think I'll look at ones I see.

Whatever the questions are, like, you know, I never do, you know, I think a lot of men don't do the math, including this thing of like, well, I have to get.

you know, the time has come for me.

You know, I think guys don't really think in certain, in terms of timing a lot.

Yeah, and you don't have to.

And that must be, that's nice for you.

Right.

There's, you know, pros and cons.

And like, there's this whole thing going on with like men not having friends.

You know, like it's kind of in the news and there's like, yeah, yeah.

And it's like, yeah, because I don't like think like, like when people, when I moved here, people were like, do you have any friends there?

I'm like, friends?

In what world do I have?

I have my

the people I've met.

The people in your life.

Right.

And I'm like, we'll see each other when we see each other.

Like I didn't like decide to move to Del Rey based on like, will I have anyone to have lunch with?

But who will I brunch with?

Like, it's not, but I do understand, you know, it's different for women.

Like, there's a difference there.

There is a difference there.

That is really funny.

And it's definitely a question that you get.

Like, how do you, like, are you guys making friends?

Like, and you do want friends in your life, but I guess I can't.

I don't want any friends.

I could see why for you, it's like friends.

Right.

It was like, it is weird because then I had to like think, you know, look, I get, I'm not just, I'm not just someone who just lashes out without thinking internally.

I do try to get some depth to me.

When I was asked, do I have friends on there?

I was like,

do I have friends?

Like, just generally?

And then I'm like, I talk to one friend every other day.

That's good.

That's a lot of talking to a friend.

Yeah, we talk on the phone all the time.

That's good.

That's a best friend.

You have a best friend.

Yeah, I wouldn't, you know, let's not.

Let me make it girly.

Yeah, no, let's not.

You got a buddy.

Let's not ruin my

street cred here in Del Rey.

He has a VFF.

Oh, you have a Del Rey best friend?

No, like from back in the day.

I had a, from, from college that we talk all the time.

But then there's like my other college friends, my high school friends I talk to, but like the idea that I would make a move based on like who you're going to meet.

Right.

Like I didn't go to like the Snapchat map and make sure that I had people around.

Or like bumble BFF.

Right.

Oh my God.

That's something that really makes men angry.

What?

If you mention we could be friends to a guy you met on a dating app, I'm telling you from, I'm the guy talking to you.

Okay.

You know, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I, I am one of the few straight men out there talking about this stuff because all the other straight men don't know how to talk about it and they're afraid.

Um, so I, when I get said, or we could be friends from a girl on a dating app, it hits you in the ego.

Like, I, it's something I'm not proud of.

Would you rather be ghosted?

Absolutely.

I don't want to be your friend.

We met on a dating app, not anything else.

Bumble BFF.

That's why there's probably no men on there.

Right.

Do they even have a women's section, a men's section?

I would imagine not.

I've only heard about it.

I've only heard about it, too.

And it's like a nice idea, like, to make friends.

They might not even have it anymore.

I don't know.

Right.

But

I'm just saying, like, I like even the mention of maybe we could be friends.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It hits me in my ego.

Yeah.

And if it's hitting me and I'm talking out loud about it, there's some guy just like, you know, raging at like, hey, maybe we could be friends.

Just ghost or we are not a romantic connection.

Yeah.

That's okay to say.

Hit him.

You got to, guys are like vampires.

Put the steak through the heart, chop off the head.

Yeah.

I like a ghost, honestly.

Like, unless you want to like seriously boyfriend, girlfriend, like a couple days, you're not feeling it.

Like, you don't, it just peter out.

It's so hard these days because, like, I even put this thing on TikTok about, you know, you talk to people.

The problem with dating apps is that there's just more.

You know, you have more conversations.

Like, if there was no, it's, it's, to me, it's the difference between sugar and sweet and low.

When you put sugar in your coffee, you're like, is there anything in this?

Then you put sweet and low.

You're like, just rush rush a sweet.

That's what a dating app is.

You're talking to way more people than you would ever talk to on a weekly basis.

Yeah.

So there's more failure.

There's more excitement.

There's more and more and more and extra.

So you get in these situations where you have a lot of medium conversations on dating apps.

And that almost enrages people more.

Yeah.

Because they're like, I know they're nice.

They've done nothing wrong, but I don't want to go out with them.

It just goes nowhere.

And so do you like dating apps?

What's your...

I've just deleted them.

I'm taking a break.

i think they serve i think everything's good everything's bad yeah you know like i don't live in a world where i don't believe in

you the you know shouldn't coulda woulda shoulda it just is you know like dating apps are a tool that's a hammer is a hammer bad

You know what I mean?

Like everyone has met in every way, too.

So like when someone brings up the grocery store, they're annoying, but they're always going to be right because someone met in the grocery store.

When someone brings up the dating app, they're annoying, but someone has met on the dating app.

And when someone meets at the restaurant or the wedding, or the, that's the problem with dating.

It's like, it's quicksand.

It's, it's, it, it, you know, there's no way to be right.

And if you're trying to be right, you're never going to meet anybody.

Yeah.

A setup is good.

You get set up.

I think setup is number one.

I'm with you.

I setup is number one because,

but a thoughtful setup.

Yes.

Don't just set up any people.

No.

All I ask from a setup is a reason you thought of me, and the reason could be they're fun.

Yeah.

Well, you're now on my setup list.

Whoa.

I'm in.

The male side is very short.

It's tough.

It's tough.

I always say to women they should hang out with married couples and hang out with the husband because the husband isn't thinking all you have to do for the husband, in my personal opinion, and I've heard, I know men,

I'm a man, but I've heard men speak.

Men don't go, oh, you know who's single.

They never do that.

They'll go, you know, who's awesome?

That's what they said.

That's the way they speak about their wives' friends.

So if you're like shitty to the wives, you're to the husband of your friend,

they're not going to think of you.

You want to be like, you know, is this advice for women?

I think this is why it's for women and men.

Okay.

I think anyone who's single, the spouse of your friend is

your best asset.

And you want them to, it's, you know, like Coke and Pepsi.

Why would Coke and Pepsi ever advertise?

We all know Coke and Pepsi.

They advertise because they want that to be the first thing out of your mouth.

Hey, do you want a soda of a Coke?

You want a soda or a Pepsi?

So same with dating.

You have to be the first thing that comes out of the spouse's mouth.

When they, for the if and when, you're not counting on this person.

You don't want to be their burden.

Everyone's got their own lives to deal with.

But you go to go out for dinner with your friend.

If I go out to dinner with you, bring the husband.

You know who's awesome?

Jared was awesome.

You know, he was a fun time.

Yeah.

I want to be first out of the mouth.

And I think that's like for anyone who's out there and single, looking for like actionable things because it's all, you know, look at TikTok dating content.

It's all like, you know, it's all, you know, woo-woo manifest bullshit.

No one has any answers.

Yeah.

I think my answer, the spouse, always the spouse.

Also have a friend luck.

You know, like a potluck?

Yeah, and everyone brings a friend.

Doesn't have to be married.

Doesn't have to be single.

It's really cute.

Doesn't have to be single.

That's a big part of this.

Because they think, well, I have no single friend.

No, no, no.

Friend luck.

One friend, that's your admission into the door.

It doesn't because everyone knows 200 people.

Yeah.

This is how people sell life insurance.

I'm just giving you a life insurance thing.

I used to cold call.

This is what they would tell you.

Okay.

So I think this is a good way to find, you know, love.

I love that.

Let us know if it works out for any of you.

And you'll be in the next friend luck for sure.

I'm in.

I'm in.

I want to go to the Jackie of Friend Luck.

This is such a pleasure.

Thank you again for having me.

Of course.

Well, we're going to do the Fast Five Stories.

I'm going to get your take on the biggest pop culture stories, and then we're going to get into your dear toasters.

And I'll do a little Love Island recap.

Are you watching Love Island?

So I have started.

Okay.

I'm on episode four.

It's so much.

So I'm new to the world.

I think that hurts them.

I agree.

I'm watching so much and so quickly, like for my job, not for fun.

Right.

It's not.

But how many people are watching to do a podcast?

Like 20.

That's the thing.

But that's the thing.

I'm like, who's keeping up with this?

And then people are like, oh, I like to rot and watch

You Love Island.

It's like, are you actually rotting?

Like, there's so how much time are you on the couch?

Like, it made me think of that word rot differently.

Like, I'm like, I thought it was like a joke.

No, it's like, the first episode was an hour and 40 minutes.

You're physically rotting and your brain is literally rotting.

This show is so dumb.

And I think every season of the show is so unpredictable because they don't know.

Like, they cast these people, they record the pilot and then they put it up.

And every episode is like the night or two days before.

And like, they don't know if the show is good until it's done i know that's the hard part for

me as a viewer and so like i'm watching this season because last season was like the biggest thing in pop culture last summer and i didn't watch last summer because i had watched so many i watched the prior love island us seas and i'm like this is like seriously bad and a waste of my time of course the one season i don't watch is a good one so now i'm like okay i'm back right that's i mean it's sad that that's why i'm there i'm like i heard it was so great last season i would love to like be in the know of what's going on.

I do think they were helped last season because it was one of the NFL players' brother was on it.

Yeah.

He played for the Giants.

Yeah, the one.

Odell Beckham.

The Odell Beckham.

His brother was on it.

Listen, who am I to come into a show that's been established and be like, here's how you should change it?

But I'm like, it does need a, maybe it needs a celebrity factor.

It does need a celebrity hook.

And I do think a famous younger brother is a great way because that's also from Love Island, UK, which is so much more successful than U.S.

The one season I watched, which is like the big, the best season, season five, Molly Mae and Tommy Fury, who's the younger brother of Tyson Fury.

And so that was like a big get for the show that Tommy was on it.

He turned out to be like such an amazing guy, except for last year.

And then he fell in love with Molly, and they've been together since and they have a baby and like it's just been amazing.

And so now we're two for two on Famous Younger Brothers carrying a season.

Right.

And I, because I'm watching this and it's just, to me, it's like young kids dating.

It feels very saved by the bell.

Like, it's just like, I don't really relate to them very well.

And I'm a big dating show fan.

Like, I'm not a reality show hater.

Like, I love The Bachelor.

I yell at The Bachelor on my Instagram.

Like, I've kept up with it.

Like, the thing about The Bachelor that I really like is the arc of it.

Like, and that's what this lacks is there's a beginning, middle, and end.

Like, this has, it seems like we're just trembling.

We're just like sitting around until they throw another wrench into the villa.

Have you ever like gone out with someone from The Bachelor?

I feel like in your career, I've met a lot of them, but I've never been on a date with one of

them.

I shot my shot once.

With whom?

I won't say names, but whose season?

Oh.

It was one.

I can't even remember what she was on, but I was like, I basically put it out there.

I was like, hey, just I know you're going through like a whole season thing.

No, she ignored the message.

And I was just like, okay,

we shot.

We shot.

That's the thing about, and listen, I speak from experience when you shoot your shot.

It's called shooting your

one, S-S-H-O-T, not shots.

Do you know Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor?

I know, yeah.

Is that the one?

Yeah.

Well, because she's Jewish and she's amazing and gold.

Because I made fun of her.

I'm obsessed with her.

Well, I made fun of her the whole season for, you know, the Jewish thing because I kept talking about how my parents would act.

Like my whole, the whole bit was like, I knew she was Jewish and like kind of like made fun of that.

So then I was like, hey, listen, no, things are, you know, kind of wild right now, whatever.

But if you ever want to get a drink, and then just not even acknowledged.

Not even the read receipt, which I know how that works.

You can turn those off on Instagram.

Or you just like don't open it.

You see the person.

Right, you just delete right away.

Just like, I like she saw the subtle like, hey, and was like, no, no, no, no, no, I won't even read this.

Just let me delete right away.

I'm cracking up.

I just want to say, of all, like, Cable, if you guessed it right away.

Because, like, she's the one to go for the.

Listen, I was like, she had laughed at a bunch of my jokes.

So I was like, okay.

At first, when you were talking about it, I figured it was someone from back in the day, like Nick Vial season.

Cause like, I feel like, I don't know, that's just who I associate with The Bachelor.

And the newer girls are, like, younger.

And, like, so, but then I was like, who would I set you up with from The Bachelor?

Right.

Arielle.

Well, I mean, a lot of the fans, because I kept making fun of her, you know, her on the show, and a lot of people were like, Jew, you know, you're

that Jew, go make a show.

Well, she did go out with the other Jew who was, oh, yeah, I don't know who that is.

I don't watch the show anymore, but I he's a nice guy, yeah.

And they went out like once just for the Jews, and then for us, for the Jewish people,

and

now she's like, it's just a queenie, and she was like, dating some celebrity, okay, yeah.

But, anyways, I love that.

Let's just like didn't work.

I guess old Jaron

wasn't celeb enough.

Oh,

10 pounds to lose.

It was the 10 pounds.

It was the 10 pounds.

I think if I had taken all Zemps.

But the thing is, if you didn't have those 10 pounds, you'd have to just sit with yourself and be like, well, what was it?

Nothing to do.

Nothing to blame it on.

So it's good that I'm going to be able to do it.

I'd be responsible for cancer still being around.

And you'd have to really deal with why Ariel didn't want to.

It was my personality.

Holy shit.

The thing I make a living on.

I'm seriously cracking up.

Okay, well, we'll talk a little bit more about Love Island later in the show because we have a Love Island story.

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I love, I see that you have page six out.

I love a page six headline.

Page six is my first stop.

That's the only stop to me.

I just, I love, to me, the page six fun is trying to figure out who planted the story to.

Ooh.

Because these are all PR agents that are kind of like making, you know, sending it over to the page six people.

So I just love, where is this coming coming from?

I kind of like, I, I, that's something that always crosses.

And that's a good question to ask, like in general.

As a history major, so that's something that you always have to consider the source.

Right.

You know?

Exactly.

Who stands to gain?

Right.

Right.

I mean, there's so many stories like that.

You're like, wow, this is really glowing for this person.

You're like, they must be awesome.

You're like, oh, that's.

their story.

Right.

Well, our first story is a little update because Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift went to a wedding this weekend of his cousins.

I'm sure that you saw was like like very normy behavior.

Okay.

I didn't see, but I good for the what, what a way to, do you think that would make you happy?

You're the normie cousin.

I was talking about this because I did the show with Margo yesterday and she was like, don't you think like it's a little weird for the bride to have Taylor there?

She like takes off all the attention.

Taylor's the bride everywhere she goes.

Right.

But I do feel like you could seriously be like that insecure to be like, I don't want her there because she's going to take the spotlight off of me.

Or you can recognize that it's like the coolest thing ever that Taylor Swift was at your wedding.

Like I think there are really two types of girls.

And I think more people would like want the clout of like Taylor Swift was at my wedding.

That's iconic.

It's officially the best wedding in our friend group.

Right.

Even if it's sunk.

It hears you're right.

Because what we have to acknowledge is that Taylor Swift is a once-in-a-generation star.

She's Michael Jackson.

You know, she had the largest tour ever, you know, money-wise.

You know, like that.

Did you go to this Eras tour?

I didn't go to the Eras tour.

I respect it, but I didn't go.

Yeah, you have to say that.

Yeah, I mean, like, no, I'm like, but I'm just saying, like, I, she's categorically, like, one of the biggest celebrities on the planet ever.

Yeah.

So

that, I think, what's that?

Like, Elvis.

Elvis, Taylor Swift, Michael Jackson.

So it's funny, like, it's, there's a level of celebrity you have to be that every bride would be okay with right being at like she couldn't be like to me if it was like

i'm not to besmirch but like besmirch away but if it was like um

i'm trying to think of uh who's a singer that I'd be like, if it was like Gwen Stefani.

Yeah, it's like just

a big to-do.

And is it worth the drawing?

Gwen Stefani might be.

I think to be a, because everyone's got to get a picture with Taylor.

Taylor knows she's Santa Claus.

Everyone's got to sit on her lap and get a picture.

So Taylor knows that she's basically going to work.

Like, the bride has to know that everyone's going to be at the Taylor exhibit, at least for a minute during her wedding.

Yeah.

It has to make sense for everybody.

So I think the,

it is just a very interesting plight

for that bride that I, I think if the grandma, if everyone at the wedding knows who the person is, then you can't be upset.

Yeah.

I think it's more iconic than it is a detraction.

Yeah, but it's dependent on how big the celebrity is.

Like if, yeah, like if Benson Boone came to your wedding, your grandmother would be like, Benson, Benson Boone, you know, like,

Benjamin Boone.

But I do feel like

if Benson Boone came to your wedding, it would be a distraction.

He's flipping.

Like, he's like small enough of a person that I would make him sing.

Like, I would never ask Taylor to perform.

Yeah, I would never ask Taylor to perform.

Like, what are you?

Crazy?

Right.

But, like, I'm sorry, Benson, get to work.

Get up here.

Right.

It's a good point.

Benson, but then Benson, what if he's like, listen, it's my Saturday.

I want to enjoy the opening.

But, like, when you're the bride, like, you are the star.

Like, the way anyone would do anything for the bride.

The bride wants Benson to sing.

Come on up.

But that's the point where Benson goes, have fun.

Thank you for the invite.

I'll send a great gift.

Like I think Benson's too small for that reason.

Yeah.

Like we don't want to, you know, if I'm the bride, I don't want Benson Boone dimming my shine.

Okay.

And he's a very divisive person for some reason now.

Like, have you ever seen TikToks where people hate him?

No, I'm not on TikTok.

So I'm just like, I can understand why people like.

They think he's he's like mass produced they think he's like like industry plan basically the the artists out there i think he's great i think he's great too i'm a huge fan the songs hit like okay all these artists like complaining like you make a good song right it's it's a very gen z like you get to look like you're an artist and you know things by making fun of benson boon and making fun of things that are popular but like sometimes things are popular are really bad like and actually most things benson boon's songs that i've heard are really good whenever i get hate on tick tock my the the thing you always have to remember when someone's like, this sucks, and I'm like, I have 100,000 views on something, the thing that you could always say back to them is like, well, someone loved this so much that it's the only reason you're seeing it.

If you think about it.

Like, that's the sad part about algorithms is like, you need, it's fossil fuel.

You know, you need someone.

You need the hatred of losers to take off.

Yeah.

They're gas for my car.

But that's why it's inherently negative.

Right.

That's why you have to go extreme.

Everything's the best.

Everything's the worst.

You can't be moderate.

And I'm a moderate.

I'm a guy who everything is good and bad.

I just said that to you with dating.

Like, it's.

You're in the middle.

I'm a big middle loser.

That's why Arielle won't get back to me.

Well, the story from the wedding is that actually

there's a picture going around of the table place card for Taylor and Travis, and it says Taylor and Travis Kelsey.

Like,

leading some to believe, are they secretly married?

I for sure thought they got engaged that time that they had a party for the end of the hours tour and like she had blurred out her ring finger and all the pictures and was hiding her ring, like she was acting like an engaged person.

In some pictures being like, huh?

And then literally it's blurry.

And then in other pictures being like, this, knowing those were the ones she wanted to post.

Right.

So I actually would like be open to the idea that they're secretly married.

I can't believe that this is the story is whether or not they're married and not that this was a faux pas by the bride and groom to not put her, like her, she's losing her last name.

Yeah.

She's the most recognizable name in all the world.

Like how many times it's like when George Clooney started dating the doctor and they're like, you know, they started calling, you know, they were like.

George Clooney and the doctor.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's like, people were like, no, she's got a career too.

You're like George Clooney's wife.

Right, right, right.

And then they do like whatever her name's husband now to get back at him in a thing that he didn't even like ask for.

That's powerful, Jared.

That's powerful.

We change society.

So I don't know.

I can't believe that's not the headline is like, how do you not have Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey?

But if they're married,

I don't know.

Then they would be Taylor and Travis Kelsey.

Or they would be Kelsey Swift.

I don't know.

I don't know how that would work.

I could see her being traditional in her personal life where it's like, I'll take my husband's name in like familial settings.

And then, of course, like, I'm not Taylor Travis.

Right.

No, but that's a reasonable.

That's just, people aren't reasonable.

Do you think they're secretly married based on this?

I think that what I know of Taylor is she is way more in tune with the internet than most mega celebrities are.

She knows the joke.

She knows the inside talk, all the bracelets, the friendship bracelets.

That's all like internet chatter that she picked up on.

I do think she likes this are they, aren't they thing that's going on?

I think like the only reason to blur your finger is to keep up, keep the, you know, the gas on the fire.

I am of the belief as a Taylor fan, I think she, there's no bigger capitalist in our society.

Like I think she loves making money.

So I think she will stoke the flames of her own story, even though there's no need to do it anymore.

You've won Taylor.

Yeah.

You've made all of that.

Is that how you stay on top?

Right.

But like, I don't know.

I guess that's how you stay on top.

But like, what's on top?

You know, like, I don't even think it's about money necessarily all the time at this point.

Like,

she just has something to prove.

Right.

Well, that's the thing.

I think that's, it's never about money once you've made that much money.

It's making the money.

Yeah.

You know, it's being the top dog.

You know, like, you know, when you go, why do these billionaires keep making rockets?

They get off to

making the rockets.

So I think Taylor has that in her too.

Like, I like some people like food, me.

Alcohol, me.

Women, me, but not as much as food and alcohol.

And some people like making money.

Like, if someone gave me $10 million right now,

the way I would disappear off the face of the earth.

Right.

Like, I would do stand-up.

That's it.

You'd only...

I'd love to stand up for the love of stand-up.

I love doing stand-up.

I love writing a bit.

I love figuring it out.

I love the puzzle of it.

I love the puzzle of like trying to get more people to my my stand-up, which is doing podcasts and things like that.

But I would just, you would be like, Jared's like doing like a

20-seat room in the back of a bar in Del Rey.

Yeah.

And it would just be me doing for the 20 people.

Like I would do that.

And

I'd have my house near the beach and they'd be like, is that Jared?

I have big beard.

So that would be enough.

10 million would just be enough for you.

I think 10 mil would get me there.

I don't know.

Maybe I got to look up.

I got to do some.

Are you high maintenance?

I am

until I'm not.

Like, I

again, I like to complain, but I don't need very much.

Like, I think, like, but I don't know, maybe because I'm a slob, I'm not like

pride.

Right.

I don't know.

Like, I, I just, um, are you high maintenance?

Like, do you have needs?

I have needs, but I handle my needs.

That's why I don't think I'm high maintenance.

I don't make it other people's problem.

I take it all on,

but I have needs.

Like, I remember, you know, if you could fly first class, never private, the rest of your life, that's the only thing you could get.

Would you be okay with that?

No, I want the potential.

You want the private.

You want the potential.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, I want it.

Yeah.

Right.

Once you've flown private, I've done it a couple times.

Just the not going, getting there the minute the plane takes off is like you realize how crazy that is.

Yeah.

And you're like, I can't not see this again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, I know I've met a few comics who go private to their gigs.

And I've talked to them about it.

I've like asked them, like, how do you be relatable?

And be, I, I watched one comic, a very famous comedian, go up at the cellar, told this whole thing about first class, and then he got off stage.

He's like, I haven't flown commercial in like 30 years.

And I was like, that's so funny that he's still doing airplane stuff.

And I talked to another comic, and he was like, I was like, you know, he was a famous guy.

And I go, well, what,

I go,

you know, what are your fan?

They go, we've started talking about it like in there publicly.

Like, cause it's hard to talk about.

Like, listen, I don't cry for the plight of the private flyer.

Right.

But I, in there, whatever.

It could go south.

Like, it might not hit the way you think.

It's just, you're trying to relate to a big crowd of people and you have to explain that you fly private.

Yeah.

And they were saying they were like, it's like having, it's like time travel.

And they were like, I get home and sleep in my own bed and I get all that time back.

And I'm like, yeah, that's a good point.

I get that.

Yeah.

10 million wouldn't get me to private.

That's the problem.

No.

You need like 100 million to be private forever.

This is what people listen for, the relatable humor.

Yeah.

No, but this is, like, I think this is our conversation.

Like, Claudia and I always talk about, like, if we won the lottery, like, what would we do?

What would you do?

Oh.

Would you do this show still?

I think, yeah.

Once a week?

I think maybe once a week.

But I think in addition to to like, you know, the business element of it, like, I think, especially as a mom, like in different aspects of like my life,

it's nice to like have adult conversation, like flex my creative muscles,

like funny and like stay, because you can get like pregnancy brain, mom fog, like all of these things.

But I do think the show like keeps me sharper than I would be if I wasn't like forced to talk all the time.

Right.

So

I think, yeah.

And we would talk about how it life is in the lottery.

Right.

The show would probably be

like, well, it can go either direction.

I would think the show, like any podcast I would do, if I did once a month, like would be like jet fuel.

I have like 30 stories.

Five hours long.

Do you know how many women like Arielle Frankel that I had would dump by in a month?

You know how many stories I would have?

Oh my gosh.

Okay, we need to get into our next story, which is another story.

How was the wedding?

I think it was great.

It looked really nice, and I wish them a lifetime of happiness.

Do you think you'd be okay with being referred to as the normie wedding?

Yes, if in the context of Taylor Swiss, like everyone's normie.

That's fair.

So, like, that's not an insult.

She changes everything.

She's the son.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Our next story is another, like, we're just going to fall down the rabbit hole here because Justin Baldoni's $400 million countersuit against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds has been dismissed by a judge.

This is a major setback for Justin Baldoni as his countersuit against Blake Ryan and their publicist, as well as his lawsuit against the New York Times, have been tossed out by a judge.

The judge granted the motion to dismiss the $400 million lawsuit filed by Baldoni and the Wayfarer parties against Lively and Reynolds, which alleged extortion and defamation, as well as a $250 million defamation lawsuit against the Times.

The judge noted, though, that Baldoni's legal team can still amend the claims for breach of implied covenant and tortuous interference with contract if they choose to, with the deadline of June 23rd.

So

does this end everything?

Like, I just never, is this story over yet?

I don't think it's ever going to be over.

Like, are we still going to trial in March?

Yes.

Oh, they are.

Right.

Well, how?

I thought it was all tossed.

I thought this was like the end.

I pray.

Again,

this is a story that I've talked about.

Of course.

And it started as, oh, this is a fun

so good for content.

Right.

Like, hilarious.

Oh, my gosh.

Hot takes left, right.

Really, no, like, both of these people are incredibly successful.

Like, there's no one that you feel so sorry for.

So, like, however you want to come out of it, like, there's no like wrong thing to say i don't know it started as a story i i don't know there's so many subjects here that are like real subjects that people deal with that are serious subjects so like i when i chew on the bone of a story i'm always like oh fun story like i don't want to be in the world of someone going you just reminded me of this horrific thing for my life so when it started as like blake lively is like kind of a monster.

I was like, fun, page six.

And then it turned into a harassment story and a lawsuit.

And then you go, and I kind of did the Homer Simpson into the Bush thing because I was like, ah,

you went hard against Blake in the beginning.

I didn't go hard, but I was like...

Like, you were anti-Blake, but that's fine.

Well, I just thought it was funny because Blake was one of those people where you could see there was like some page six stories of like, Blake was in line at this restaurant.

What's the restaurant with the Italian place with the lasagna that's like in circles?

Carbone?

No, it's in the West Village.

It's on Greenwich Avenue.

You're the West Village girlie.

I know.

I'm the West Village girly.

I

she was like seen at this restaurant like signing autographs and she ate like a normal person.

I was like, and I remember reading this and going, something's off.

Like, why is this so glowing to her?

But I also feel like I saw a story today of something about how she was shopping and she was rude.

And it's like the same thing on both sides.

Like, I feel like...

you know, people planning negative stories about her, people planning positive.

I literally don't care.

I'm sure she's a massive diva.

Like, she's one of the biggest stars in the world.

Sure.

I don't care.

Like, I really don't care.

She's like nicest.

Not caring is like kind of the funnest place to be, where you go, wow, I guess this person is planting stories this way.

This person's planting stories that way.

But then when it started getting into subjects where I was like, ugh, I'm going to back out.

And then it got fun again.

Right, right.

I kept going back and forth between horrific and fun.

And there's a point where this we're so far away.

And what people try to do when you talk about something like this is they try to like, um, they try to morally discredit you.

So they say, how could you talk about this subject?

Like, and you go, well, I, I, I was talking about them saying hi to someone in line at Carbone, you know, like, I, I, you know, so, and then it just becomes not fun and gross.

But I do, like, I, for me, Justin Belldoni, like,

I think they both keep this, this sticks to them in the way that Coke and Pepsi, the first thing out of your mouth.

Like, what's the first thing you think of with Blake Lively?

I heard she's a terror.

You know, and then what's the thing you, first thing you think of with Justin Balbone?

It's inseparable.

He might be a horrific, you know,

flag-waving

fake feminist harasser.

Yeah.

So they both come out worse, net negative.

They need to have a meeting, actually, and be done with this.

Come out with their hands held high in the sky together.

Everything that we've seen, I think he has more.

Like, I feel like she could get over it because, like, it seems like she tried to steal his movie.

It didn't work out.

But, like, his whole reputation is like he has Deadpool.

They'll be fine.

I just got Blake Brown Beauty in the mail.

He just sent me PR, like the whole kit, her hair care line.

I don't know why because I've jumped ship recently, like very publicly.

But I will say I've really enjoyed the hair care.

So she has her hair.

They have their movies.

They have their family.

They'll be fine.

Justin Maldoni, his whole name is riding on this suit.

So it is a little bit more real for him at this point.

But they do need to meet and like...

drop it because it's so bad for both of them and and nothing good is gonna come of this the more and every like people are so tired of talking about it so tired of hearing about it, especially now that he's had this loss.

I feel like he has other irons in the fire of like how he can get his name back.

But, and people say defamation is hard to prove.

So, of course, this was thrown out.

But I'm telling you, he needs that more than she does.

I, I, I, and I'm speaking about this.

He needs to let it go more than she needs to let it go.

No, I think he needs her to hold his hand up in the sky more than she needs.

They need to talk about it.

She doesn't need to talk about it.

He needs to talk about it with her her and like have this front-facing public thing.

I, I'm probably, maybe I'm only saying this because I'm a man.

I just like, I can see, I don't think we ever think of him as anything other than that guy from the lawsuit.

And I think the, it's either he goes and talks with her and is like, hey, can we like both?

And she's nice to him and has and helps him through that.

Or here's another direction for Justin.

Him and Kirk Cameron get together and they create the faith-based rom-com

that everyone is asking for.

Like that, I think he either goes Kirk Cameron, way right,

you know, you know, go moms of America, or he gets Blake to help him out.

But I think things are worse for her right now than for him.

I think a lot of, I think most people are on his side.

But I'm just saying, like, I'm thinking like grandma.

You know, grandma might know that Blake Lively is tough to deal with.

Tough to deal with on set is different than

like you created an environment of harassment.

Yeah, I don't think that plane was landed.

At least

that's the only thing.

I don't know him from anything else but this movie.

Me neither.

Her, it could be 7,000 other things.

Yeah.

Hair care.

You know, I agree with Zeppery side, whatever the, you know, people.

This is like do or die for, like, this is all he has.

And he was supposed to have the next movie.

And now, obviously, there can't be a next movie.

Except his character, I didn't read the sequel, but I don't think his character would be in the second movie.

There's a next movie.

That's what this is all about.

Like, they want her and Ryan wanted to take the second movie from him because he had the rights to everything.

And so that's what he alleges.

And

that was their motivation behind smearing him.

This is so small.

Like, the movie snatchers.

Just like you said, this is so down the rabbit hole that, like, I don't even know what this is really about.

And then people are like, well, did she just have a crush on him?

It's like, see, this is funny.

And then, like, Ryan got mad.

Right.

This is like the funniest.

Like, that's what's so funny about it.

It's like,

you could line 10 people up and ask them about the story.

They would have 10 different answers.

You know what?

Let me just tell you, that's literally what I've been doing the last two weeks doing this show with different co-hosts because every single day there's something in the news about it.

And like, I try to ignore as much as I can.

I've tried to ignore.

There have been, like,

this case being thrown out is something that if we're following the story, we have to touch on.

So I have had this conversation with so many different people i'm like we all agree like we need a moratorium on this story nobody wants to be here we're not having fun anymore right and it's not good for anyone it's not there and it's like that that's why like that's why i homer simpson this one because i was like there's nowhere i'm gonna get from this story to even have like a fun bit no like it's not even a fun bit like it's not enjoyable for any like no no part of it is enjoyable right because i got a text from a friend yesterday.

The friend I talked to every day, he was like, my bestie.

Easy there.

He was like, it's thrown out.

To me, it was over.

Like, I was like, and then we discussed this.

Does he care about pop culture, Bestie?

Like, does he?

That's all we talk about.

What does he do for work?

He's not in.

He has like a regular job.

Yeah.

He's like an accountant.

That's hysterical.

Yeah, this is what we talk about.

No, this is like our whole lives is what we've talked about.

We love gnawing on the bone of stupid stuff.

That is so funny.

Well, our next story, I'll be interested to get your thoughts.

Let me just acknowledge, to some people, that story is like the opposite of stupid.

Do you know what I mean?

Like they're like, they see a lot of themselves in it.

And I can't really control that.

Like I feel bad for that person, but I'm also like,

come halfway to me and know that that's not why I'm here.

And or I would never do that to make you feel badly, you know?

Yeah, it's a lot.

It's a lot.

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Aaron Rodgers is fueling marriage rumors with a ring scene in his Steelers contract photo.

So two things.

Aaron Rodgers is signing with the Steelers.

Claudia and I actually had a bet about this.

I'm pretty sure on the show we talk a lot about him because he's just like so interesting.

And she said he was going to retire that he's like done.

Our modern day philosopher, Aaron Rodgers.

Right.

And I said he's not going out this way.

He will take, he will go to another team.

That's like I watched the Enigma documentary of his.

I was like, this is, he literally like broke himself trying to heal his Achilles heel, like, to just not play anymore.

No, no, no.

He signed with the Steelers.

I think she has to make a charitable donation now because I won.

Oh, good.

Yeah, this is, this is nice.

In his photo,

I would have backed your bet.

You would have, yeah, I thought it was a sound bet.

He's absolutely taking it.

The only way he wouldn't have played anymore is if no one wanted to take him, but I think, you know, there's always the Browns.

Like, some team will take him just to sell tickets.

Right.

And he's still better than like

half the league's quarterbacks.

Like,

like he, to say he's bad is like not the strongest take.

Like he's a, he's one of the top 15 to 20 quarterbacks in the world.

Right.

Like he's not zero.

So as long as he's not zero and he wants to play, there'll be a team for him.

Right.

In his photo signing with the Steelers.

He's also the most insufferable human being I've ever seen.

You're not an Aaron fan?

This guy stinks.

Aaron's party?

Aaron's party.

I was just in Pittsburgh.

I was just at shows in Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh's the biggest football town in the world.

No one cares about football more than a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, but they are Steelers fans.

They love the culture, hardworking, grit.

And they are so

not excited.

They're not.

That's the vibe.

The vibe I got was like, please don't ruin, don't embarrass our team.

It's like your sister marrying a guy that you're like,

as long as she's happy.

But could you see his level of passion and theirs if they can get on the same page, like them just being like obsessed?

Listen, the Steelers.

Like if he starts winning for them and like

Steelers, he's Steelers proud and then they have that like

that zeal.

Winning is

the fix-all for anything.

Making money and winning are two things that make everyone happy.

Smooth everything out.

The minute you stop making money, you make a little less the next month.

Hey, why are you doing the ad read that way?

You know, Aaron Rodgers, to me, is a narcissist who loves himself more than anyone else on earth.

He thinks his opinion is smart and revolutionary.

He thinks that going to a quiet room and closing his eyes for a few hours makes him somehow on a different level than the rest of us.

And because he can throw a football and he gets paid $10 million a year, he can believe that.

I I think that if they're winning, they'll be okay.

If they start losing and he starts doing things that make sure Aaron Rodgers looks good, that's what worries Steelers fans the most because they love it to me, to Steelers fans, and listen, I'm a football fan.

I've went to Penn State, so I know Steelers fans very well.

They just want the team, wave the towel, go team, and just be, they want the family to be good.

Is he a team player?

I think if you win, you are, but you know.

But even if they lose, like, I feel like even with the Jets, like they stung.

It was really bad all around.

But like, he was like in with them through the losses, like giving pep talks.

And he also had a coach that got fired.

And the offense, of course, you know, like all

but I'm saying, like, the coach got fired.

It wasn't in the documentary.

So, yeah, that might have been left out of the documentary he made about himself.

Did he make it?

Yes.

He doesn't just do a document.

I just think he's like,

he is just,

it is that thing of like,

if you can throw a football, now I have to like hear you wax on.

Yeah.

You know, like, no, you know, so I don't know.

I do think the Steelers, like, I could, I just, I mean, I went on stage every night the last weekend was like, Aaron Rodgers.

And it was just like this, like,

okay, I hope it goes well.

They're like stealing themselves.

I think it's like a wait and see situation.

He'll have to prove himself.

But this is a passionate town that is never wait and see.

Go, Steelers.

And you go, Aaron Rodgers, what do we think?

And they're like, we're just hoping for the best.

You know, it's like a, you know, I used to say that about

Buffalo.

Like the Buffalo fans were always like, they treated the Bills like it was their

in and out of rehab younger brother.

They were just like, no, no, no, be nice to him.

He's going to be okay.

No, we hope for the best and we just don't speak too loudly around Buffalo Bill.

You know, like,

same feeling with this.

Buffalo Bill.

Okay, I understand.

It will be exciting for the

NFL storyline, though.

Like,

because if it goes north, great.

If it goes south, interesting.

If it goes south, it will be interesting.

Listen, he's never going to be bigger than the Steelers to Pittsburgh people.

So no one's going to take his side.

I think he knows that.

I think in New York, the Jets.

There's there's division already.

People know they're a bad franchise.

You could blame it on a million things.

Right.

But Steelers, it's like, salute the flag.

Yeah.

So I think he knows that.

I think he's smarter than that.

Well, anyways, the story at hand is on his hand in the picture.

He's wearing a ring on his ring finger, on his married finger.

He is like with a new girl, and people are wondering if another one, if he's married.

It also sort of looks like an aura ring, which you're not supposed to wear on your ring finger.

And it actually doesn't look like an aura.

It does.

That looks like a ring.

That looks like a ring.

That looks like one of those like rubber rings that Midwestern dudes wear with their Veore

shorts at the gym.

Yeah, at the gym.

Like I'm taking off my wedding ring and I'm putting on my rubber ring.

Right.

It's dude who very much wears Viore and bonobos type of ring.

Do you think Aaron Rodgers is married?

to Taylor Swift.

Mr.

and Mrs.

Smith Swift?

I don't think he's married.

But that ring.

He's literally wearing a wedding ring, right?

He's not married.

I, I, well, maybe I sometimes it's like it's just what you're looking at.

Like, well, here's the beautiful thing about like being Aaron Rodgers: is like it's you get to always be like, it's about the football.

So, like, oh, we're not.

What am I going to talk about?

Am I married?

Why would you care if I'm married?

But he knows.

I do think he knows people care.

I think, in the way Taylor Swift, like, I'll be fair to Taylor, I think he's one of those people who knows what's being written and said about him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he heard me on this podcast.

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised, but we're really kind to Aaron.

So, um, I just said he stinks.

So, but I think that's like, that's balanced, you know.

Right.

Yin and the yang.

I guess that's what I mean.

That's what he did to Shaylene.

I don't know what he did, but um, what do you do to Danica?

Danica just came out and Olivia.

What about Olivia?

What about Danica was like she was pretty damning without, it was just like, that was a really hard part of her life.

Yeah.

That, you know, the Aaron Rodgers split.

And then his family.

There's just

a lot.

That's what they do.

There's a lot in his way.

When you said he's interesting, he is interesting.

Yeah.

I do think he is interesting by his own design.

Yeah.

Like, I think.

You don't think he's inherently just an interesting person.

So, like, things follow him.

You think that he.

I think when you make a documentary about yourself where you're the hero, like, you think of yourself a certain way.

You think of yourself as the underdog.

I was never drafted.

You know, unrecruited, had to go to Cal, had to transfer.

I know the story.

Gets, you know, has to back up.

Rhett Favre was taking the draft, waiting in the draft waiting room.

Yeah.

he is writing the story you know sometimes i'm literally lapping it up i'm like right he was passed over the job he's been through so much it's like it's like the our story page on the wedding website women write that for themselves yeah they write well at first i wasn't into him but then he took me out 7 000 times you know like it's like their own that's their own version of writing Marvel.

Yeah.

You know?

That is so funny.

We all love being the underdog.

That's, by the way, like that is, we love it.

No one believes they're the villain.

No one believes they're the hawks and the mighty ducks.

We're all the ducks.

We're all the ducks.

Right?

Our next story, we're actually going to skip ahead to our Love Island story because Love Island Beyond the Villa trailer and premiere date have been set at Peacock.

So Peacock just announced that Love Island, last season's Love Island, is getting a spin-off show of like following them in LA, like Vanderpump Rule style.

Ooh.

Yeah.

So the trailer premiered yesterday and it played after last night's episode of Love Island.

Season six Islanders will be on Love Island Beyond the Villa, which will premiere on Sunday, July 13th.

The series cast includes like a bunch of the stars from last season and appearances from other former islanders.

It features Ariana as well.

They visit her sandwich shops, something about her.

And

yeah, this is a first of its kind.

I think it's an amazing idea.

Well, it's them looking at the valley and going, we can outdo that.

No, but it's like we had this amazing season with this great cast, and it was like, you know, lightning in a bottle.

Why does it have to end there?

Like, we now have these stars.

Why not put them back on TV?

And why do we have to wait till someone else picks them up?

Like a Vanderpump rules or a summer house.

Like, why can't we make our own show?

Right.

No, this is, I mean, this is the streaming wars kind of happening before our eyes.

Again, like, I bring up the valley because that's a show where they're like, oh, we'll take all these people and put them in this one.

And they're like, well, we have people.

It's the good and bad of the follower economy where it's like, oh, they have a following.

So put them on this show.

The good part about these guys is they had a successful season.

Yeah.

So there is interest.

They are interesting.

They are performative in the way we want them to be performative.

So this is, I think this comes from a good place of like, they like them.

It's over.

A safer bet to go with people who have a record of being good on reality TV.

Even if you seem interesting or even name that we've heard of, like you were just talking about this yesterday with Rachel Zoe going on Real House, I said New York.

Like, yes, she's interesting, but don't forget she had her own show.

Like, she can do the job, as opposed to other big names who go on Real Housewives who flop, but that's because they're untested.

You know, they could be good, but they could also not be.

Just because they have a name we know doesn't mean much.

Some people get a taste for that and they realize they don't like it right away.

Like, I think it's like, you know, you have something go viral.

You never see a lot of, this happens a lot on TikTok.

uh which you're not on but i i think you know that like someone goes viral for something and then they do it to death.

Yeah.

You know, you can like they go and you can tell that person liked the feeling of going viral.

They wanted to make sure they went viral again.

So, you know, if they you know go viral for like, hey, I'm going to bop my head to music from the early 2000s.

Oh, that

works.

Yeah.

So keep on playing the hits.

Yeah.

And they keep going with it.

If that, you know, if they wanted to be creative, they would do something else that fit their creative, you know, creative muscle yeah so i i i think is this is a no-brainer like if you're peacock especially no it's a no-brainer but they don't but people don't do this you know no one's ever given the bachelor the people who came from a good season of the bachelor then follow those girls in la like it's right you know the bachelor the bachelor universe to me that i think they've made too much money to ever to me they're the ten million dollars we do this once a week yeah like we've already made our money i don't want to do any more yeah no they're not really acting competitively right they i think for the bachelor and it's what bothers me because like there's so many things where it's like we're doing this date again yeah we did this date you you could put 10 minutes of thought and brains one brainstorming session would have an even better date yeah and you can tell it wasn't done so for this it's like you know the bachelor's like oh we could have this and this and then they go No, they're making money.

It's a cash cow.

But I like that.

I think Peacock is like one of those things where they're like, we're fighting for our lives.

Yeah, they're trying to be the next show, even they do like Real House Eyes Ultimate Girls trip.

They do these like alumni shows.

I think they do Traders.

Like, I think they've really seen the value in like repurposing reality TV stars who have a proven track record.

I think that's like a really sound formula.

I mean, look at you know, like I'm in and out of Survivor, but like I used to be big on Survivor back in the day.

Seeing Boston Rob, like back, I love that so much.

Yeah, this is a guy who performed, He was amazing on TV.

This is what he's meant to do.

And then you see him on Traders.

You're like, yes.

Yeah.

Bring back this guy who's like just good.

You know?

Yeah.

You don't, it doesn't have to be so hard.

Right.

So that's very exciting.

Of course, the one season I didn't watch, so I don't know who any of these people are.

And I might watch the show actually looks like really good.

And especially if these were my people, like if these were any of the seasons I watch are like, I don't know, Love Island, UK season five people.

Like, oh my God, I'd be freaking out.

So I understand people are really excited.

Is it them trying to like make it in Hollywood?

That's like from what I saw, it's like the couples from the show, like some of them are still couples.

They're like living together, drama amongst friends.

I think some of like the B the BFFs, the besties, like having some infighting, just like, I don't know what you would call it.

A docu series.

A docu series.

I think, you know, who has done this well, underratedly?

90 Day Fiancé.

90 Day Fiancé has done a really good job of like, hey, we're going to like, we had this couple, bring them into this next show.

And they have them watching on the couch.

They do a good job of keeping the 90-day community, you know, up and running.

Abressed.

Yeah.

Well, that is all the time that we have for today.

I feel so sorry for the Dear Toasters community because you guys are going to have to

be on pause.

We do have too much of this.

I know we just had so many great conversations and we like are out of time.

And I want to get this episode up.

But like, thank you.

Thank you.

This is such a pleasure.

This was such a pleasure.

And I'm sorry to the DTQ.

I will make it up to you.

I'll come back and we'll go.

Claudia and I do this all this time where like the episode goes too long and we don't have time for your toasters.

And so like we push it to the next day or like sometimes doesn't happen that week, the backlash we get.

So I'm ready for it.

I understand.

Blame Jared.

Blame me.

If you want some email, I answered dating emails on my Monday episode of J Train.

I have two podcasts.

Right.

Well, that's tell us everywhere we can follow you and listen to you.

No, no, no.

The J-Train podcast is daily.

I do Mondays, I take emails.

Tuesdays, people write in with their complaints and I complain with them.

It's a complaint duet.

Wednesdays is chit-chat.

Wednesday, I have a guest.

I would love to have you on.

Just chit-chat.

A little chit-chat.

We have still, there's so much left unsaid.

We have a lot to talk about.

Especially, I need, you know, I need like Florida Recos.

Yeah.

Thursday, I do pop culture Thursday.

That's why I like pop seeing page six.

And like, you know, I just read page six and I just go off the top of my of the dome.

And then I do the you up podcast with Betches.

You up, every Wednesday and friday we talk about dating we take modern dating podcasts we've been doing it for seven years and it's a pleasure to do and i you know i'm like the male i give you whatever the guy's thinking that's what we need yeah and we do cherish that advice i hope you guys got some good dating tips from jared a little male pov you have to take what i say and just know that like I'm speaking honestly about my own situation.

I'm not an expert.

And I'm giving you basically, if I'm thinking it, I'm within 10% of any guy you're dating.

Because most people are very similar.

You know, like we're all 10% away from each other, how we're feeling, how we're thinking.

So whoever you're dealing with isn't 100% away from me.

Right.

You know, if you do the math on it, if you're logical.

But yeah, so the UA podcast has been,

it's such a pleasure to do.

And I love working with batches.

So

it's great.

Yeah.

So and then 37 is single.

It's a stand-up special.

You could watch with your parents.

You could watch with your friends.

I'm sure they'll relate to it.

Love that.

And you're Jared Freed on Instagram.

At Jared Freed.

Love that.

Well, thank you so much for being here.

This was an absolute pleasure.

And we will see you all tomorrow.

Love ya.

Bye.