Satchy Catching Strays with Margo Oshry: Monday, June 9th, 2025

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welcome back to the toast happy mondaries things are looking a little familiar today because i am back with the frames i am back in studio with my new york correspondent satchel cratchell reporting live

reporting live from new york My little sister Satchel, just in case you guys don't know, that's Margo Ashre.

We call her Satchel, Cratchel, Cratchy, whatever.

She is co-hosting today from Claudia's spot in New York.

So it feels like old times.

Two sisters, two frames, two frames.

We're so back.

We're so back.

You know, I just like am Claudia's villain.

Whenever you need me, I'm here.

I'm available.

I was shocked that you said yes when I asked you.

I always say yes.

You've never asked me to co-host a toast and I've been like, nah, I'm good.

No.

Well, you could be busy.

So I was shocked that like you would make time for us.

Like I do really think that underneath it all, you respect the hell out of the toast.

By the way, I have the utmost respect for the toast.

Like, it's actually crazy.

I know I like don't really like listen.

I, here's the thing.

I don't listen every day, but I'm a huge supporter everywhere else.

You know, like I have the merch.

I always am re, I repost every single TikTok that you guys post.

Like, I am a, I'm a fan, I'm a follower, I'm obsessed.

And obviously, like, I just think it's so crazy, like, not to like get like whatever, like, what my sisters have built.

Like, you guys are like iconic.

It's so crazy.

She was so like,

I'm just like,

are you gonna cry?

I could cry.

Also, it's so funny.

Is we do our show every day, Claudia and I, we crush it.

Like, we're hysterical, the funniest people.

You don't really listen.

I understand why you don't listen.

You're not even like a huge podcast person, but in the last two weeks, like, you've literally been so excited about the toast, like, with guest posts.

Every person I post, you're like, Valeria, Kathleen, I love her.

Wait, no, literally, because A, like, I also, because you and Claudia, like, I don't think you like notice this.

You don't really like tell people what you're up to like you know on like a day-to-day it's like i'm just behind the scenes i don't text like the fam chat like hey guys yeah salt lake is coming on exactly so like i'm kind of finding things out like with everybody else which by the way i kind of love it's very fun and so when you're doing these like guest tings i'm guessing and also you did ask me like months ago for like not not that i had anything to do with it for florida influencer i told kathleen this and i don't remember if i said it on the show but i was introduced to Kathleen's body of work through Satchi because I said, Satchy, like, who are the cool Miami girlies?

And you gave me a bunch of names, but like, she really stood out to me.

And I also saw that she was a toaster.

And so I started keeping up with her after you said that.

And I was like, oh, she is the Alk of a co-host.

Yeah, she's the Elk of a co-host.

So I felt invested in this journey for you.

And also, like.

You're carrying the podcast industry on your back.

Like, I'm supporting you, you know?

Why, thank you, Satchi.

It really, it means a lot.

And I can say this all the time, but like, your support means the world.

I can really feel it.

And I feel completely supported by my little sister oh my god yeah you can't say that all the time

yeah no no no you can't um sachi catching strays so yeah no

catching strays that needs to be the title of this episode because it's the title of your life even in the fam chat last night like i just like i did something fun for myself like i bought a pack of second candies like really not a big deal and even in it was like a second candy that's nostalgic from growing up cream savers because i stole them from right i guess i'll tell this story but like i was at the bookstore.

They were selling cream savers, which you never see cream savers around these days.

You never see cream savers around these days.

And I sent a picture to the fam checks.

I was like, excited.

I was like, look what I swiped off of BSC's chest this morning.

I can't stop quoting that commercial.

So I was like, look what I got.

And I was like, hey, throw back.

And I was like, don't worry, I paid for them because when we were growing up, we went to like a snack place before we went to see a movie.

And Margo, how old were you?

Six?

Yeah, no, like I must have been like six or seven.

Like I was not really aware of the consequences of my own actions and went to a candy store and for whatever reason, I like couldn't get the cream savers.

And, you know, Satchy at six years old, much like Satchy at 28, like wouldn't stand for that.

And so I took them.

And then

I,

I was like, you know, didn't want anyone to know.

So what?

I sat like.

I sat like eight seats away from you guys thinking like no one was in between us, by the way.

I just went into a corner and then i'm i was wearing a juicy tracksuit and i literally was in the pocket like trying to open it and i think like someone mom you like was like what are you doing

being so fucking weird she took like one of the stacks that's like a coin stack you know like just like a roll of of suckers and we got into our row at the movie theater she went all the way down to the wall and they started putsing it down in her pocket and we're like okay freak yeah literally and then i was caught and then i did have to go back and return them and apologize yeah so don't worry i paid for my cream savers yesterday.

Something you bitch could never do.

Something I could never do.

And how were you guys trays?

How were they?

You know what?

I haven't had one yet.

So I also got an iced tea and just like the flavors.

wouldn't have meshed well.

And then we were picking up dinner, little Mediterranean.

So it was just like not the time for berries and creams, cream saver.

But this morning I saw them in my purse and I was like, wow, I'm so excited for it to not be 8 a.m.

So I could have a cream saver later today.

I'm so jealous that that's what you have in your purse like that's no no no that's such a good thing to just like have on hand yeah like a lifesaver like a mint give me a cream saver give me a cream saver all day long if you've never had a cream saver i don't know they're not available everywhere they're kind of like a nostalgic treatment they're not like you know i don't think they're made by mars or one of these big distributors so they're sort of small um check them out on amazon like so fucking good so fucking good it's like altoids you know it's like you don't see them everywhere yeah they exist exist.

But you love to have a sucker in your bag.

You love to have a sucker in your bag.

Absolutely.

Speaking of suckers, Sashi's catching strays today.

And I needed a co-host today because I do this wonderful show and I'm looking for the Elk of co-hosts who wants to be America's next top co-host.

Literally.

But I also miss my sister.

So I thought, hey, let me force her to talk to me.

I would say an hour, but these days the episodes are like an hour and a half.

Let me force my sister to talk to me for an hour and a half and tell me what's going on in her life because if I do it in front of the public, like she'll have to be nice to me and answer me and she can't just like get up and walk away.

No, I actually can.

I actually can, free will.

Yeah, no, I am so happy to be here.

How are you?

What's new with you?

I'm good.

I'm good.

I had a busy weekend.

I was in Atlantic City and then I was in Connecticut.

I saw you at the Dairy Boy Classic, the first annual.

I was at the first annual Dairy Boy Classic and it was very Pargy.

It was, you know, very like, honestly, it was everything that you thought it would be.

I walked in and I was like, oh my God, like, am I the only Jew here?

Like, that was like, were you confirmed?

No, I saw like a couple others.

I saw a couple others.

Okay.

I was in good company.

But no, honestly, it was like so cute, so fun.

I think Paige Lorenz is like seriously like the coolest fucking person on the planet.

So I literally said to her, I was like, you're the only person I know that could get like everyone to Connecticut on a Sunday in the middle of summer.

No, and like everyone dressed up and covered up.

Like it was really nice to see my sister and the other influencers like just a high neckline.

Like things.

Thanks baby.

Yeah.

No, everyone like had like their sweaters around their necks.

Yeah.

Glassy look.

It was parglicious.

And yeah, it was lovely.

And yeah, I had a, I had a nice weekend.

I'm very tired.

But besides that, what about, what about you?

How's my sister?

How are you feeling?

Oh my gosh.

I'm like all over the place.

I had a really nice weekend.

It was just like a chill, chilled, as the British, as Molly Mae would say, a chilled weekend at home with the family um yesterday we did go to the bookstore so that was like really really fun that's so exciting and we went to a new restaurant on saturday night which was so good so then we wound up picking up from it last night oh yum

it was really really tasty but then i had like another stomach issue in the middle of the night it woke me up this one was like different i think it's just because like i i find dined a little too close to the sun and like it was just a little too like salty

rich yeah sometimes when i go to a restaurant like then i get like a really bad stomachache just from like the richness of eating like that.

And I feel like when you cook like you're very like organic queen like yeah, like I don't use like a ton of like seasoning.

Like it's just, um, it's more basic.

So it's always an adjustment.

Yeah.

It's always an adjustment.

Um, a couple things that I did this weekend that are

relevant to the team here at the toast,

I caught up on Love Island.

Like I said I was going to do.

Cause I do the things I say I'm going to do.

So I caught up last night.

I finished watching it like 11 p.m.

And then I realized there was a new episode last night.

So now I'm one episode behind, but like I am, I'm in the mix.

I need a referendum on Love Island.

I know.

The first few episodes, like I was really questioning my life choices because I was like, where did I go wrong in my life that at 32 years old, like just

as part of my life, like I should be watching Love Island.

Like I feel like I've made some mistakes along the way if this is what I'm doing.

So like.

I don't watch.

I've never watched.

Not because I don't think I would be interested.

I absolutely do think I would be.

I need to understand how you, how like fucking Alex Earle, the busiest woman ever, how are you guys finding the time to watch an episode a day?

I don't get it.

Once a week, fine.

I can do that.

But every single day, is it on weekends too?

Uh, it's like five nights, four or five nights a week.

So I don't think it's Saturday night, but it is Sunday night, like maybe Sunday through Thursday, something like that.

That's actually like criminal.

Let me tell you, I don't have the time.

I don't have the time.

And every like minute that I had, I was like trying to watch some love island it was not an enjoyable experience especially because the first few episodes are so bad and and the people are just like not the most interesting and like it's just the way the show moves is incredibly slow um but now four episodes in like i have you know some people i prefer more than others so i have like some some things vested in it, but I don't have the time.

I will never watch another episode of another show ever again because any free moment that I have, I have to be watching Love Island.

And I'm doing it like for this show because I know like people want recaps and stuff.

And like, it is always fun once you're really in it because there's so like, there's just going to be so much news.

So much lore.

And I don't want to miss out,

but I just, I'm, I'm questioning myself and my choices in life.

Is it, is it starting to feel like Redheads?

Like where it's like.

The thing is, the critical difference is that redheads is for the betterment.

of myself

and our community.

And that's why I will never give up on redheads because like it's making us better.

Agreed.

Love Island is making it worse.

Like, making us worse.

So dumb.

The way, like, the conversations are so mindless.

Like, it's really painful to watch at times.

Yeah, that's a really important distinction.

I'm glad.

I'm glad that you.

Yeah, like, I don't feel like I'm bettering myself watching Love Island, except I do feel like, you know, I'm doing my work, like the way you go home and crunch numbers.

Like, I go home and I watch Love Island.

Totally.

That sounds like that, ideally, in retrospect, is a perk of the job.

Yeah, but it is like it really feels like work.

I do expect that I'm going to start to like it eventually, but I know that it takes time and you have to give it time to really like get to know the islanders and let things play out.

So I'm letting things play out.

I'm mostly caught up and I'll be recapping it as much as

I can, but you don't watch and now I'm an episode behind.

So like nobody cares what I have to say about.

what I saw.

Right.

Oh, that's terrible.

I'm sorry.

I know you just like can't ever be all the way caught up and then also like major major music news dropped on friday rascal flats dropped rascal flats

album like seriously the musical event of the century also i have it like thoughts like thoughts thoughts okay let's do it i mean there's no one else i'd rather be talking about this with even claudia like i do think you're a bigger rascal like if it's possible i know we're all like at 100

but like you're a huge rascal i also i'm a huge rascal fan and i also think from like a music perspective i just like listen to to music so much more than the average person.

So like I've also, I spent the entire weekend in the car.

So like all I did was listen on repeat.

And I like, I have thoughts, like some good, some bad.

Yeah.

Not every single one, especially, I feel like the ones that were released as singles, like those were a little more up and down.

And like I wasn't obsessed with certain ones.

But everything I heard on the album that I hadn't heard before, I loved.

Me too.

Me too.

Just do like favorites.

Give me your top three.

Oh, okay.

Yours if you wanted, Jordan Davis.

Yeah.

That was like chills, cultural shift, like things will never be the same.

I think that we're all sleeping on Jordan Davis.

And like, I know he's huge, but I think that like we're still sleeping on him.

I agree with that.

Um,

he's kind of like a singles guy, though.

Like

he has fire singles, you know what I mean?

Like, it's not as much about a body of work yet, but like the songs are so good, and I agree with you, but I feel like that's the difference.

Okay, that's a that's a very good point.

Um,

what was shocking to me, honestly, My Wish, Carly Pierce.

Agreed.

I saw a comment.

Carly Pierce.

Like what?

Carly Parse.

There we go.

And I feel like you're like,

you'll agree with this.

She has a very motherly voice.

Okay.

And so, like, and I feel like the message of My Wish, like, it's like, it could kind of be like to your kids.

Yeah.

And I feel like it's like very, it like made it, it added a whole new layer of like emotion.

Okay.

And then, I mean, obviously number one for me, stand, Brandon Lake.

Yeah.

Rascal Flats.

My number one is Yours if you want it.

My number two

might be Stand.

And then three,

as of right now, like it would be Mayberry, but I'm used to Mayberry.

Me too.

From the other songs I hadn't heard yet would be My Wish tied with Summer Nights.

Oh, yeah.

But also Fast Cars and Freedom with Jason Aldean.

Oh, I loved that too.

But like, then I just kept listening and it just kept getting like greater and greater.

And then some of these songs, Yours If You Want It is always a Pargy song, but like My Wish is not something that I listen to for fun.

Whereas Fast Cars and Freedom, like I feel like

it's not underrated for me.

Honestly, so good.

We need more.

Do it again.

Even Life is a Highway with this metal singer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was, it was good.

It was fun.

It's the song from Cars, Lightning McQueen.

So it's like the only song that like Harry and I in our Venn diagram of music we like that we can agree on.

So I was like, you want to hear new Lightning McQueen?

And did he love it?

He loved it.

He didn't say like change it.

So that's a good sign.

What I will say, like, seriously, the worst one.

Backstraight Poise.

I agree.

And I said it when the single dropped.

Immediate skip.

Yeah.

It's all over the place.

First of all, there's eight people on the song.

Right.

Yeah.

You can't have two bands come together.

Yeah.

And then I'll say it again because I feel like I'm.

I give so much praise to all of these individuals involved, but like I'm moving on with Kelly Clarkson was not amazing.

Honestly, I skip it.

It's a skip for me.

Yeah, it didn't make it to my liked songs.

That's, you know.

That's when you know.

By the way, just while we're talking about new releases, new albums, have you like sat with the Morgan Wallen album yet?

I've been trying, and every time I drive, that's what I listen to, but they all sort of mesh together.

Like, it's going to take me probably a full year to have thoughts.

Oh, okay.

So in a year from now, just like, let me know.

You'll come back on.

I'll come back on and we can talk about it.

What do you have to say?

I mean, it's so good.

Like, I don't so anything i like it it's i think it's like not it's getting like some hate for sure like people like just like don't like it they like you know they're like bring back dangerous like whatever um

why would he do so different it's not so different it's not so different i think it's more so like this is more i think like emotional i don't know honestly i love it like i think it's like it's amazing that's all i wanted to say yeah okay good

and then you went to jelly roll concert oh my god do you like jelly roll yet he's growing on me yeah okay so i have to say like a year ago, like I didn't like Jelly Roll.

I think I actually like

disliked him.

Not him, his music.

I didn't, I didn't get it.

I hadn't gotten it yet.

I have to say, I get it now.

I love him so much.

I think he's so cute.

He has such a good message.

Like, there's nothing not to like about him.

And also, his music is fire.

And I've seen him, like, honestly, I think perform like four or five times.

I just like, I've seen him at stagecoach twice.

I saw him at CMA Fest.

Like, I've seen him randomly.

And then I saw him at stagecoach's seer and like he really just blew my socks off.

And I was like, oh, I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.

Like I love him.

And yeah, so I went to his show with Post Malone last weekend, last week, and it was fabulous.

And I love him.

And he brought out Brandon Lake, my king.

I mean, you and Brandon Lake always are in the same room.

Isn't it crazy?

Yeah, like every concert you go to, Brandon Lake is there.

Satchy love.

Does he have lady love?

I think so.

I would imagine.

He's like, I think like the, he's like the number one Christian singer in the world.

So, I would imagine, like, as part of that, he probably has like a million kids and like a wife, you know.

I'm surprised you don't know that about him, though, like, as a number one Brandon Lake fan.

I don't really like, I'm not invested in his like personal journey quite yet.

I'm really just invested in like his music.

Okay, great.

Well, congrats to everyone over at Rascal Flats HQ.

You guys crushed it.

Get back on the road.

Get back to work.

Wait, get back on tour.

I do have to say, though, like, let's do this again.

And I have notes because, like, imagine like Luke on like like a banger.

Like, here's to you.

Or like, Cody Johnson.

Like, we need too much.

We need people.

We need people like that.

Again, again and again and again.

There's so many songs.

The discography never ends.

But that's why it's on us, the community, to listen to this album, like make sure that they know that we loved it and we want more and that it's such a success and everybody's benefiting.

And like stream Ashley Cook.

Like, you know, let's let Rising Tides Raise All Shrides.

And then they're like, oh my God, we have to do this again.

And everybody wants to be involved.

I literally couldn't agree more rising tides raise all strides exactly

well i brought you here to talk to you about music and your life and just hang out with my little sis but we also have a job to do which is the fast five stories that we need to know and i'm looking forward to getting your thoughts on some things i know some of these stories are like there i could see a sachi angle to them you know Oh, let's hear it.

I'm curious what they are.

What's happened this weekend?

I don't even know.

Like a lot of little things that are actually interesting and good.

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you just gotta you just gotta our first story is for sachi taylor swift and travis kelsey were spotted at his cousin's tennessee wedding so lurd and this have been laying low a little bit they've been spotted out and about in south florida they're kind of like south florida swirlies no i know when are you gonna run into them i know I know.

We have a mutual favorite restaurant around here.

Do you?

Oh, yeah, like the waiter told me because there was a a waiter that i was i was dining there because yeah i go out i go out to eat sometimes and i have a bellyache

yeah literally that it like knocks you out for two weeks but yeah um there was a waiter there who's a toaster and he was telling me and this was before they had really been like spotted and it was confirmed he was renting a place down here

and he was like you know who's been in to eat twice in like the last two weeks travis kelsey and i was like what and he was like yeah he loves the restaurant as do i oh my gosh so i feel like that's i'm not gonna like just like go running around like punching beach looking like i i would do that you wouldn't and that's where we're different but i feel like if i make an effort to go to my favorite restaurant more like the the stars might align you know okay and just talk to me for a second like if you saw them would you literally do anything no no i would just spy

you would just spy you wouldn't even take a picture i would stare no no no i wouldn't take a picture yeah

no way i mean like, maybe I would take a picture, like, for the tote, like for the show, and like to post it on the toast Instagram.

Like, not because I really want a picture, but like for the lore.

But, like, but I don't want to be that type of person.

So, so ultimately, no.

I agree.

I agree.

But, like, I just think like for

the records, like of us and our family, like you need to get a photo, not of you with Travis and Taylor.

Like, I want a photo of like Harry and Charlie with Travis and Taylor.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, that's what I want.

Okay.

That's what I want.

That's different.

That's different.

That's what I want.

Okay, well, let's see because I don't know if I'm going to a restaurant again anytime soon after last night.

But the two of them were spotted at his cousin's wedding in Tennessee.

So pictures started coming out of like Taylor and Travis at like a really cute wedding, like Normieville.

Normie Central.

And it turns out it was Travis's cousin who was getting married, and they attended as regular wedding guests, took pictures with a bunch of peeps and would just be in Normie's.

Okay, can I just say like one thing?

if i'm the bride like which of my in my this wedding party is like a snitch that's like fucking texting like tmz daily mail like making a buck off of like her wedding i feel like that's like not being spoken about enough like i need to know what did they send to daily like i feel like people the photos

yeah

the photos i guess but they want to make it out I know, but also...

And nothing was like inappropriate, you know?

It was all very sweet.

It was very sweet.

Sometimes they really look like the most normal couple.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

In these pictures, they do, even like her with the girls, or like there's a large family photo.

It's like if you had to pick out the celebrity, if you were an alien who came down to Earth.

Yeah.

I don't know that you could.

No, no, I don't know that you could, which is kind of like what I think people love about her.

Like, I think that's like, it's that like relatability.

Like, she's just like kind of, like, as much as she's so not, she's kind of like everybody else.

but yeah honestly i love a moment seeing them together and also just like in normie settings like enough of them like you know walking from like zero bond to the car i'm good like i want i want you in a barn in tennessee and that's where they are yeah it's lovely yeah and i do feel like that's also so much of her charm as uh like a major artist is that like she was just that that girl you know who likes the guy but she loses that relatability because she's the biggest star on the planet so like seeing her down home backyard, it's like,

she's going back to Tennessee, wouldn't she say that?

And like, yep.

And also, do you think it's like there's a part of her that's like, because I feel like in her own way, she is like pretty humble.

And like, do you think she's like, no, I shouldn't go because like this whole wedding's going to be about me now?

And it should be about the bride and groom?

No.

Like maybe that thought passes her mind.

But first of all, no one, only a really like insane person is like, I don't want Taylor Swift at my wedding because it's about me, you know?

And it's like, no, instead, I'm going to support my man.

I'm going to be there for his extended family.

And that's what you do.

And like, you have to live your life.

You have to live your life or else you have no life.

I agree.

I couldn't agree more.

I was just saying.

I thought it was.

Maybe a passing thought, but like, I think overall, she's a value add to the wedding.

Oh, for sure.

Also, because she likes to party.

She likes to dance.

She likes to drink.

Like, she's, she's a good time.

Yeah.

So that was just cute and unexpected.

Yeah.

Love.

Love, love.

You're still loving him.

You still love Taylor?

Are you still a Swifty?

Yeah, I'm still, I'm still a Swifty.

But like, I'm also like not the type of Swifty.

It's like when she's in this lull period of like, you know, living her life quiet, whatever, like, I'm not, like, foaming at the mouth for like a spotted.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, I'm more like, it's like, I'm going to receive whatever she's giving me.

So it's like, you know, if she did decide to announce Reputation.

Taylor's version, which I guess is a moot point at this point.

Like, of course, I'm going to be so excited.

But am I going to be like, oh my God, it's May 13th.

She's going to, she's going to announce it.

Like, no.

So sound of mind swifty is what you're saying.

I think I'm a sound mind swifty.

I would say, I don't know that I've always been like that.

I think with age,

you become like more.

It's like, I'm just like, I just can't like spend so much of my time like dissecting these things.

And like, I need to like move on.

And it's like, like I said, I will be excited about what I'm given, but I won't.

be like maybe won't ask for more than what you've received yeah exactly got it what do you think about her getting getting her masters back i we spoke about it on the toast but not with like a bonavide swifty yeah so what do you think like were you shitting your pants i i wasn't shooting my pants i

i'm very i'm very happy

to belong no no shitting my pants in these white pants i'm good um

i'm very happy for her um i think it's like crazy in hindsight like she probably spent so much money on this and it's just like she shouldn't have had to do that you know like it's just like what like oh i think it's like over $300 million.

I know for her, that might be like a drop in the bucket.

It's just crazy.

But however, I do Samsung should have given it to her for free.

I don't know.

The whole, that, the whole thing.

I know

the concept is weird, is my point.

Like, I do understand it's a business and like, you know, record labels, like, they put money behind the artists before they're big.

And so they are entitled to something.

Like, I understand both sides, but it's just crazy to think that like she paid so much money for like something that she like owned and not owned, but like did.

But then on the other side, what I also find so interesting is when I see like Zach Bryan for example he don't give a fuck about his masters he sold them to like Warner Music or something for like I think like over 200 million dollars and he was just like I don't give a fuck like I just want the money so there's also like that side of it too which I think is so interesting

Zach Bryan drop oh not a Zach Bryan drop yeah yeah

what's going on with Zach Bryan like where did everyone land with him so here's the thing here's the thing I'm gonna talk about it

I'm gonna talk about it because you were also like posting about stage coach.

And I think I'm going to be able to do it.

No, no, no.

I know.

I know.

I think I know.

I was like, okay, Zach.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

Here's the thing.

And it's a conundrum.

So if you'd like to give me advice on it, like, okay, sure.

I'll give you advice.

I'm your big sister.

I love you.

Up until the whole Brianna drama, like I loved Zach Bryan.

You know that.

Like, I loved his music.

I went to his concert.

Like, I didn't really know much about him as like a person, like, personally.

I didn't know he was psychotic.

Like, I didn't know anything.

I was just like, you make really good music and I like it.

It's like how I am with Luke Holmes, where it's like, I know every single thing about him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so then everything happened with Brianna.

And I was like, oh my God, he's crazy.

So I like removed him from my Spotify place.

I was like, don't play this artist.

And then as

I did the right thing.

And then a stage coach was coming up.

You know, I like to be prepared.

Like, I study.

I like to know the words to every song.

Like, I need, I just need that.

And also, I like his music.

So it was really a battle between my head and my heart.

And I didn't know what to do.

And I was like, you know what?

It's my favorite weekend of the year.

Like I'm, I'm just going to send it.

I'm, and it's just like, I, in this regard, am, I hate this saying, but like I'm separating the art from the artist and whatever.

So I let him back into my Spotify.

And then I saw him at stagecoach.

And here's the thing.

He's a really great performer.

He does like, he does kind of give me like the hibby jeebies for sure, like in knowing what we know, but I just like the music.

Like that's it.

And I feel like, and here's, I'm, I'm Team Brie all the way.

Okay.

All the way.

It's just, I enjoy the music and I don't know what to do about it because like music is so important to me.

And it's like really good.

I understand.

I think that's fair.

Did you get a lot of hate like when you were posting him?

You know, I was expecting, like, I was ready for it.

I was expecting like

annihilation.

I really didn't get that much.

Yeah.

I feel like the dust has settled.

He's obviously going to have a career still.

He makes good music and, you know, the cream rises in that sense.

I don't think anybody like wants to hang out with him backstage or maybe a couple people do.

No, like, that's the thing.

It's like, I have no desire to meet him.

I, like, it's not like it's like I'm obsessed with him.

Like, if I saw him on the street, like, no, literally, no.

You might have felt that way before as he came up as one of your like favorite artists, like a Jordan Davis, like, where, you know, you do your sashi thing.

Yeah, I do my sashya.

Yeah, like, if I was invited to, like, go to like a Zach Bryan, like, release thing and I can meet him, like, I'm good.

Right.

Okay, I think that's fair.

And I appreciate your honesty.

Yeah, I just had to, I'm so glad I got that off my chest.

Unburden yourself.

I unburdened myself.

Our next story is a little young love news new couple spotting Billie Eilish and Nat Wolf.

We're passionately kissing in Italy after fueling romance rumors.

So Billie Eilish, everyone knows, and Nat Wolf, like most of you, you know, even if you think you don't, he is an actor.

Naked Brothers band.

Naked Brothers band, but he's also in Paper Towns, Fault in Our Stars.

Oh, yeah, he was in a lot of those, like John Green.

Is that who it is?

Is it?

Isn't John Green like the green tractors?

No, no, no, that's John Deere.

Oh,

John Green, yeah, it's John Green.

Oh, wow,

such a John Green girly.

He was in Home Again, which our elder Miles might remember.

Loved that movie.

He was in the intern.

That's like a classic.

He's so the intern.

He's one of like the interns that are talking to Robert De Niro.

So he's a working actor and a young in, and he seems to be dating Billie Eilish.

He's 30 and she's 23.

Okay.

Oh, I thought she was older.

He seems to be looking up.

That age cap doesn't bother me.

Me neither, but he like gets around, I'm pretty sure.

Like,

who was he dating?

I feel like he was like spotted making out with someone recently that was not recently, but like

who was it?

I thought it was like Camilla Cabello, but I think I might be making that up.

Um, but I feel like I've been like hearing about NatWolf way more than usual.

Um,

I wonder.

Oh, apparently, he's um Jewish.

He's half Jewish.

Oh, which half?

And his father's side, but it says he was raised culturally Jewish.

Well, not enough to care about Israel.

And

he hooking up with Billie Eilish.

I was going to say,

you're in the wrong

relationship.

Oh, I guess

past people have been, oh, this isn't hitting the way I thought.

Margaret Qualey,

Suki Waterhouse, Miranda Cosgrove when they were.

That's all hitting.

That's all hitting.

No, sorry.

I more meant like all these people are like married or like

in like relationships now.

Who I was thinking of.

Maybe he's like good luck Chuck.

Maybe he's like good luck Chuck.

Oh my God.

Okay.

Fine.

Can he come here?

Yeah.

Well, I think that's Gracie Ann Patton.

I think they had a fling.

As much as I could care about these two people, which isn't a lot, I think that's his cute couple.

Like, sure.

You know?

Yeah, I saw it and I was like, okay.

It's kind of surprising.

He's very mainstream, like for her.

Yeah,

I know.

I agree.

But she likes to be like off the beaten path and he just seems like classic heartthrob, but okay, cool.

No, but you know what?

That's the thing about a heartthrob.

They're classic.

You can't stay away from it.

You can't resist.

You can't resist.

That's like Suki Waterhouse and Robert Pattinson.

Like you would think he's like so corny for her, but no.

But like it makes, it makes so much sense.

Also, like Zoe Kravitz enchanting to them at a time.

Yeah, that's the same thing.

Suki Waterhouse, like

as is and Robert Pattinson, like makes sense, so much sense to me.

Like she is like beautiful, blonde, bombshell, and he's just like hottest man alive.

Like they make total sense.

Yeah, so good luck to these young lovers.

Yeah, I hope it works out or not.

I don't really care.

Agreed.

Our next story was news that dropped at the end of last week.

And I need your take, even though I know you don't watch Summerhouse, but like major shakeups are happening.

Yeah.

Lexi Wood is leaving Bravo Summerhouse after one season.

So Lexi posted a statement to her Instagram story saying that she is not coming back for season two.

She said, well, that wasn't the summer I signed up for, but it definitely taught me a lot.

I stood up for women and for what's right, even when it wasn't easy.

And I do that again in a heartbeat.

She said, I'm leaving summer house with no regrets.

Well, maybe one.

I'm proud of the way I handled myself, proud of what I walked away from, and even prouder of what I'm walking toward.

Big things are coming.

Stay tuned.

I'm shocked.

I'm shocked too.

Like,

I,

I have so many questions and I don't understand.

I don't know how it works.

Like,

was it her choice or she wasn't asked back?

So I feel like this was not her choice.

Like she would have gone back.

Even when I spoke to her last week, yeah, two, for two reasons, I think this one, because I spoke to her when I was in New York and I got the vibe that like she was ready for next summer, like excited to put it, like show us more of herself and like try something new.

So I think she was down.

Um

And then also, it doesn't really like make sense that she wouldn't want to come back.

Yeah.

I do feel like and we saw these rumors swirling that like from Dumas.

And

I was talking about it with Jesse last week when Paige left the show.

And I was like, well, Dumas also says Lexi's leaving.

And I don't believe that.

And now like Lexi is not here.

So I think they let her resign.

You know, they're not going to be like, you're fired because she's not like a

person that you need to fire.

Like, they're just not doing season two with her.

Okay.

Season eight.

That's like.

confusing because like i feel like she's like the perfect person to like be on the show um

and

like, and yeah, I know Paige is leaving.

I do think Lindsay's obviously going to leave.

That was like the vibe that I've gotten.

Yeah.

Part of me is like, are they cleaning house in general and like just like starting over with like a new crop of people?

But like still Kyle and Amanda probably because

they're not going anywhere.

They're not going anywhere.

I heard Carl's leaving too.

That is for the best.

That Lexi and Wes will likely stay on and they'll probably build like more of the show around them.

But that's why Lexi would have made so much sense.

One, she's Jesse's exact.

So now we have this dynamic.

Yeah.

That's an interesting dynamic.

And I thought she was also a great reality star.

Like I liked the way she talked.

I liked the way she looked.

She's like, she's just a cutie.

She's, I mean, I didn't like watch the show, but like I very much kept up with it and like watched all the clips on TikTok.

Um

and she's very well spoken.

Like she,

you know, she's very eloquent.

Like she gets, she doesn't like get she doesn't like let like the drama like get the best of her.

Like she's very like of sound mind, which I thought is very impressive.

Cause I feel like it's like so hard to just be like,

um,

but yeah, but then what are your thoughts on on Jesse Solomon?

Oh my gosh, I'm constantly like having whiplash because like a part of me, like, he does a couple things on the show that are so menshy, and I'm like, oh my god, like he's the cutest.

We need to find him like a nice girl.

But he's not a nice boy and he's not a good like partner.

He's not looking for anything serious.

The more I hear about him from like, you know, what people see when they go out and stuff, like he is just like in it for like not he's not just in it for the fame but he loves the fame like he loves the girls like he's not slowing down it's only getting started like it's an that's not my kind of guy to look for

or to put like one of my faves with.

So like, even though I find him endearing sometimes, he had the Shabbat dinner and he was so cute and he does the work for the Cancer Society and is so cute.

It's becoming like 10% cute, 90% wrong.

Yeah.

Whereas literally at the beginning of the season, I was really 50-50.

I'm like, half the time, he's he's such a P-job.

Yeah.

No.

Yeah.

No.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, listen, I'm curious to see what they do with it because I think Paige leaving is like, I feel like she was the glue.

No, if you watch the show, like, it's clear, like, the, the older people are like phasing out.

You know, they don't go out.

They don't hook up.

Like, right.

This is a share house.

Like, come on, even though, you know, we have to keep the stories moving.

So I think like people just enjoyed having her on the show just because she's a fun presence.

But like, she wasn't germane to the storylines at all.

And I think she's like, I think every, like, she's ready to move on.

And I think that was the right choice.

But I feel like Lexi had like so much potential.

I thought she had a good first season.

So I'm really shocked by this.

And I think it's the wrong call, but what do I know?

No, I agree.

Nobody's asked you.

Jackie, they should ask you.

You should be a casting.

I mean, they should consult me.

Sometimes they'll use my ideas.

Like they're bringing back Ladies of London.

Oh, yeah.

You loved that show.

I loved that show.

Satchi, what do you have to say about the rumors that you are joining Summerhouse?

Here's the thing.

Like genuinely, I'm like the perfect person that they should put on the show.

You are.

Like I have a corporate job.

I commute to the Hamptons every weekend.

Like I go out.

I'm fine.

Like I am the perfect sort of cast member.

I seriously could never do reality TV ever.

Like it, the thought of it genuinely gives me a pit.

Like just everyone would hate me.

Like I just know it.

And being on, like, a camera in like a bathing suit all the time, like, oh my God, seriously, no.

Um, it's just not for me.

But in hindsight, like, I am the perfect cast member.

Yeah, but she's not going to do it.

So, we could put the rumors to bed.

Satchi is not joining Summerhouse.

Who do you think of the people that you know, like the influencer girlies in New York, and I'm sure they'll cast some unknowns, and that's how the show started.

Like, that's most of the people who have had success on the show were unknowns.

But, like, of people that you know, who do you think would be good on the show?

Sophia LaCourt.

Sophia, oh my god, she would fuck shit up.

She would never do it though.

Really?

I feel like she would do reality TV.

She's an actress.

I know, but like you got to get your start somewhere.

It's true, but she would be amazing.

She would be amazing.

She would be, yeah, we love her.

We love her.

Who would be good?

I don't know.

I want someone who like has like a story.

So it's like, if you have like a corporate job or if you like, I don't know.

Not just an influencer.

Even

if you, even if you are an influencer, but you have like a successful brand.

Like, I mean, Paige Lorenz would never do it.

But like, you know what I mean?

Like, I need like a little bit.

I need a business.

Okay.

Yeah.

They have, yeah, that's always a good formula too.

You need to have like a working life.

Yeah.

A working life.

Any men that come to mind?

Influencers?

Yeah, I know.

It's like, that's even harder, but they do have Jesse and West.

So weirdly, they're like starting with more men than women.

Like, yeah, maybe like Davis Burlson,

because he has like what's popping?

I don't know.

The show is.

I don't think I'm expected to.

I'm thinking, what male influencers?

I mean, there's so little.

I think it's better.

Nobody wants to watch a man.

Oh, you know who they should have on?

That guy from The Bachelor, Greg Grippo?

Is he single?

Yeah, I think so.

I don't think he's dated anyone since

Victoria.

Yeah, literally.

She's a heartbreaker.

She's a heartbreaker.

Like, you hate it.

She's a heartbreaker.

Betty loves to see it.

You love to see it.

Yeah.

And he has so much personality.

He's so funny.

I think he'd be great.

Yeah, that would be good to get like one bachelor, one or two bachelor people.

Yeah, but I guess they don't really do that crossover like ever.

Yeah.

It would have to be just like more randomly.

Like Jasmine Goode from The Bachelor is on The Valley now.

But it's like 10 years after her season.

I think people don't even realize she was on The Bachelor, but she was on Mick Vile's season.

I remember her.

They didn't like cast her, though, because she's on The Bachelor.

She just made friends with the group.

Right.

Right.

So it could happen.

It could happen.

yeah that's an interesting question of like who should be on it but honestly i like when it's like randoms like find me a pr girly like yeah they love a pr girl they love a pr girl ruby

oh my god ruby sarah c no you should go on yeah that is you should go on yeah yeah

um okay well we'll see what happens next i'm no longer gonna give suggestions because like you took out my girl and i don't like that yep yep our next story is some more bravo casting news that's going to shake things up.

Shake it up, Chicago.

Shake it up, Beverly Hills, because Rachel Zoe is joining the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills for

season 15.

So, Rachel Zoe, the fashion designer, reality TV star, is joining the cast of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills as a full-time housewife for the next season.

She said, I am beyond excited to be returning home to Bravo to join the cast of Real Housewives at Beverly Hills.

She said, I'm been living my best life, new life, and it felt like the perfect time to come back to TV and share it all with you.

Here we go, RZ 2.0.

As a reminder, her and her longtime husband, Roger, separated recently, like I think in the last year.

So she's now in like her single era.

She's a mother.

She's incredibly successful.

I think she has a big personality and strong opinions.

I think this has the potential to be great.

Oh, I think for sure it has the potential to be great.

I'm just like, who, I think Claudia posted it.

She's like, this is a recession indicator.

Yeah, to me, it's not about the money.

Like you have to remember, even though Rachel Zoe, like you think of her as like stylist to the stars, like fashion, I come, which she is, she's also like a reality TV veteran.

Like she's been on shows.

She had a show.

She has had success in the space.

Like she has the personality for it.

So in this new era of her life, we're like, I think she has one or two children.

They're probably getting older.

She's not with her husband.

Like this is the time to do it.

No, totally.

And like, I mean, why the hell not?

You know, why the hell not?

And Beverly Hillsby doesn't have a stink about it, You know, like if you go on it and then you're just like marked and like smelly.

Is Lisa Rinna still on it?

She's not.

She's not.

But like plenty of reputable women, established women and also like

big names have gone on the show, are on the show.

And it's not something that's like taboo in that town because it's also like a working town of people in the industry.

But like Kathy Hill, like if Kathy Hilton's on the show, like you're going to be okay.

No, totally.

And is she still on the show?

Yeah.

She's more of a friend of, she's not like a permanent, she's not a full-time housewife, but like she's almost on every episode.

Yeah, she's great.

Oh, great, yeah.

So, I think that this is really exciting.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's just like a nice shake-it-up Chicago, like you said, you know, just like throwing some like new meat.

It's like, I mean, it's not the same, but like, wasn't like Rebecca Minkoff on New York, yeah.

But that would be an example of this being a bad idea, okay.

And same for Jenna Lyons, Jenna Lyons, but they canceled New York or they are are re-

They're re-jiggering it.

I wouldn't say rebooting it because it is a reboot.

They are recalibrating it and is admin that they have not canceled it, but it's so funny.

Like someone said they canceled it and everyone's reporting that they canceled it and everyone's like cheering like woo.

And he's like, no, it's not canceled.

And we're like, oh, okay.

By the way, I think it's actually so smart to recalibrate.

Like, I feel like there's so many like chic young.

like moms, housewives in New York.

That's what they did three years ago.

They reboot.

Like was all new people.

No Sonia Luette, like all new, all young.

That's exactly.

That wasn't good.

No, that's what got on the chopping block.

But maybe, maybe that's because their casting was bad.

Well, yes, that's precisely why.

So hopefully they have a new casting director, but I don't know.

I feel like people just like

don't, like when, when shows are bad or whatever, like nobody gets fired.

They're like, okay, let's try the same thing again.

Jackie, it's so.

We need to fire more people.

Like when people do a bad job at their jobs, like I don't feel like they get fired.

They're like, okay, let's do it again.

No, it's so true.

Like normalized firing people, like when they do a bad job.

Like who flopped?

Like whoever casted, like seriously, whoever casted Roni Reboot should be fired.

And they should not be leading the casting for Roamini Reboot Part 2.

And like, I feel like they're always talking about like how like ruthless, like television and Hollywood and whatever, fire people.

Like if a show had a bad season and the writing was bad, fire them.

Get new ones.

Like totally agree.

Like normalize firing people.

And also like in regular world, too, like, just like normalized firing people, if you're bad at your job.

Yeah.

We were just talking about something that we watched recently that was so bad.

Oh, no.

The HBO Max rebrand from Max back to HBO Max.

Oh.

Whoever led that brand

rebrand, fire them.

Like, are they fired yet?

Because they can't be in charge of like the new one, right?

No.

Yeah, it's like, what if they're still, it's only been two years.

What if they're still in the role margin?

Because like, why wouldn't they be?

Right.

Also, because like in at like a corporate company like hbo like it actually technically is like it's really hard to fire people like it's not like you just are like oh like you know she could be better like fired like no no no you like have to like build a case yeah and like it's like a whole thing so like she really they she he i don't know she i'm thinking he i have no idea when i think like marketing i just think she okay because it's a job for girls It's a job for girls.

Yeah.

No, honestly, like I'm going to give credit to the women.

Like I think only a man like would have that bad of an idea in the branding space.

No, and also, by the way, I could see him in the music.

No, no, wait, I can see him.

I mean, being like, think about it.

Max.

No, and then here's the thing.

If, especially if this person still has their job, it's a man.

A hundred percent.

A hundred percent.

Um,

but yeah, no, I agree.

So normalized firing people.

Yeah, it's so true.

Like, I just, I'm sure we could, like, check, like, who's the casting director for Roni Reboot Season One and who's the new casting director.

But I have like a lot to do and I'm watching Love Island.

And

we have better things to do.

I like doing, I do a daily show and my co-host is a maternity leave.

So like it couldn't be me, but maybe someone else could look into it.

I'll, maybe I'll look into it.

I'll look into it.

I wouldn't even know.

Oh, no.

You can actually find that stuff out.

They like say the casting director at the end of every episode, no, like in the credits.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Oh, oh, that's a lot of work.

Okay.

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Oh, is a little happy mother news.

Nara Smith is pregnant.

Oh, I love expecting baby number four with her husband, Lucky Blue Smith.

So this was really surprising.

I was really surprised.

I think it was a surprise because she wrote in her caption on TikTok, like, surprise.

Well, I mean, it's always like meant to be

surprise number four, but it's, oh, I read it.

It was surprise number four.

I read it as like, it was a surprise for them as well.

Oh, I don't know about their personal life, but I could see them wanting a big family and wanting kids closer to age.

But like, I was surprised because her daughter, uh, Whimsy Lou, is 14 months, which oh, wow,

isn't that's actually like not that like crazy.

I don't know how far along Nara is, but uh, roughly the kids will probably be like 18, 20 months apart.

Yeah, which is like a small age gap, but like not insane.

I don't know.

I just feel like no one was on like pregnancy watch for Nara Smith.

No one was on pregnancy watch for her.

I love her.

I'm so happy for her.

Like, I just think that you know, I love this, this life that she leads.

And the more babies, the better.

Like, it just, and also, by the way, something I love so much about her is she doesn't show her kids, but she like does like show them in like such a tasteful way without showing their face.

Like, I don't remember what magazine it was.

I think it might have been Harper's Bazaar.

And she did this, like, like, family spread with them, like, in their home.

And like, the kids were in it, but like, their faces weren't, but in such a like cool

way.

She does it in a good way.

I agree.

She has three kids at the moment: Rumble Honey, who's four, Whimsy Lou, 14 months, and Slim Easy, who is two.

Um,

and so their family's growing.

She said, Baby number four, loading our little surprise.

Yeah, I guess that I didn't think of it, but it does sound like a surprise to them as well.

Yeah, yeah, well, so cute, just America's sweethearts, truly, like the most beautiful couple.

Also, she's so young.

Yeah, how old is she again?

I'm pretty sure she's 23 or 24.

She is 23 and he is 27, but he also has a child with the girl who started all of this.

No, the girl who was dating Joe Jonas.

But that's what started all of this, Nara Smith.

When she, what's her name?

The model.

Who has the baby with Lucky Blue Smith?

No, no, no.

I know, I know.

Everyone was put onto Nara Smith.

Maybe like she had a lot of fans before that, but like she blew up when Joe Jonas started dating that girl.

Stormy Bree.

Stormy Bree.

I don't know.

People just like dug into Stormy and Lucky Blue.

And I think they had been like an iconic couple when they were together.

And then people

were in the middle of their videos.

And I think that like was a huge way for Nara.

At least that's how I remember.

I didn't know Nara before Stormy and Joe got together.

I did.

She was definitely,

she was definitely big.

Also, because like,

yes, maybe you didn't know like Stormy and Lucky, but like.

they were like an iconic couple like a tumbler-esque couple vibe so like people so and he obviously is still very relevant and he's also like a huge male model So like people loved Nara and Lucky and then like it did bring on a whole new wave, but she was pretty big prior to yeah, it brought on like the millennials and yeah, it brought on the jackets and the chugies.

Yeah, and here we are and we're happy to be here.

Yeah, you're happy to be here.

But how do you consume her content on Instagram?

On Instagram.

She posts Reels for the Reels Mamas.

That's good.

That's so nice.

Maybe not as much as TikTok, but I don't know what she does on TikTok, so I don't realize that I'm missing anything, you know?

Right.

That's totally fair.

Yeah.

Ignorance is less.

Oh, wow.

Calling me ignorant.

cool cool cool

what else is new with you before i let you go like anything that you that's like you're interested in that you want to talk about any drama you want to clear up oh i i have no drama like in like the world to clear up i know but like also like i don't need any online drama like i know do you see your clear how did you feel about that new york influencers conversation that was going on Well, I have my Starbucks.

Oh, you're drinking Starbucks.

I'm cracking up.

That was the funniest.

Satchy drinks Starbucks.

Satchy drinks Starbucks.

I was cracking up.

That whole thing was like so bizarre.

Like, it was just so random.

Like,

the whole, and you know, that girl lost her job.

Did you?

She wasn't with me.

No, where was she working?

I don't know.

I don't remember.

But yeah, she lost her job, which like seems a little

crazy.

Carter says it's hard to get fired unless you're like because you said, like, if you get fired for things you say on the internet, bye, guys.

I'm out.

But no, I thought it was like so strange.

Also, the whole thing was just like,

I mean, I do know those girls.

I don't find them to be boring.

I just think it's like, I think there's like a, I always get the saying wrong.

There's a lid for every pot.

Like, some people like your shit and some people don't.

And, like, that's all.

Yeah, that's how I feel too.

Like, they have a lot of fans.

People obviously like it.

Even if it is boring,

there's a, there's a consumer base for it.

So, like, that's great.

That's what people like.

Also, like, what I will say too is, like, I feel like, you know, influencers like get so much shit.

And like this sounds so lame, but like this sounds so lame.

It sounds like even saying it.

But like influencers like are real people too.

Do you know what I mean?

Like I'm sorry.

Like people like just like going in on them like online, like making videos about and like I think this about like anyone.

Like even when I see influencers talking about other influencers online, like talking shit about them.

openly i'm just like you guys like we've kind of lost the plot here like just like to be like talking shit about someone online, like, literally naming them.

And I'm just like, can we get it?

I feel worse when like influencers do it to each other, or they like, you know, imply, so-and-so, I was at an event.

They were like, no, no, no, no, my God.

And but also, it's because they

and no, because they know what it means for that person.

And like, so much of it is conjecture and just like a way you felt.

Not anything anyone said to you is in like the things they didn't say to you.

Yeah.

And it's just like not entirely tangible.

And like, you know, what you're, you like, I feel like other times when that girl made her video, I don't think she expected that many people to see it nor did she expect like the acquireds to be offended because like who are you like it was shocking that they even like responded to it honestly right right right um but she's just like a person going about her business like I it's not the the kindest thing but like she does I don't think she expected it to have the effect that it did the effect I don't think I don't think she knew that when she made the video she was gonna lose her job No, that was just such an like an insanely stupid saga.

That was an insanely stupid saga.

And it's just like, oh, what'd you get canceled for oh because someone said i was boring online like that's we've lost the plot that's crazy yeah you know like no one's forcing people like you're obviously not boring if people follow you that's no one's forcing people to follow you it's it's just whatever the whole thing was so stupid but did it shake up the scene like what was the influencer group chat like that day oh um

I mean, people were definitely like talking about it, but I think it was more so like,

is Bridget okay?

Like, has anyone heard from Bridget?

Is she okay?

Um, she became like the face of it, even though, like, she could have been talking about a million people, right?

Yeah, I don't know why.

Oh, I guess because she responded, she's yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's that's why, but um, honestly, I think it was like I think, I mean, this stuff always ends up working out.

Like, I think it is better for her.

Like, I think she's bigger now than she was before.

Yeah, yeah, it's usually true, it's just painful to go through it, but then like, you'll come out, you'll be okay.

Yeah, you'll be okay.

You'll be okay.

Acquired,

I'm renewed for acquired.

You're what?

You're I'm renewed for for Acquired.

I'm Renew for Acquired too.

I love her.

As a girl, like, as a girl's girl.

Yeah.

And also, by the way, like, she's not boring.

She's like, so funny.

And, like, you know, like, so like, there are, I'm sure there are people that, like, you could say that about, like, I just like don't think she's one of them.

Got it.

Okay.

Well, thank you for your take.

Thank you for doing this show with your big sis and supporting your big sisters.

Thank you so much for having me.

If you ever need, you know, someone to fill in again.

I honestly have had a ball today and you're going to be my first call because my schedule this week got a little mixed up and we're moving some things around and so like if i have another day where like i don't have a plan i will be calling you because you have done an amazing job sachi i've really like cracking up oh my gosh

because you know what people like don't talk about enough that you're so funny i'm so funny because it gets it gets lost in the sauce because like you guys are so funny

so it's like it's just like no one's paying attention

i feel like sometimes like you don't you don't package yourself like in your funniest way because that's also like not what you do like you're aesthetic and you do music and fashion and beauty and like

it does it doesn't matter if people think you're funny or not so you do you think I should share my personality more online yeah but I don't know what how you should go about it like how we can really capture this like little sister energy that you have and how we can make it translatable because you are like you're millennials little sister just like I'm Gen Z's big sister No, totally.

Well, because I'm Gen Z and you're millennial.

Yeah, but like you are the millennial's little sister.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, I know.

I love that.

It's really cute.

Yeah.

So I don't know how we can showcase your personality more

in a way that like people will understand who you are.

But I do feel like who you are came through on this episode from a little girl stealing cream savers,

a little girl.

To a big girl posting Zach Bryan with out abandon.

Without abandon.

That's also one thing about me.

I don't have abandon.

That's good.

Yeah.

No.

It's good.

Well, we love you so much.

You're welcome back

to you.

Anytime.

Where can everyone follow you and maybe see more of this personality?

You can

follow me on Instagram at Margashri, M-A-R-G-O-S-H-R-Y, and on TikTok too.

And how many followers do you have on TikTok?

Not that many.

I have like 83,000.

I really should like post more.

You don't post a lot?

I do, but it's usually just like me singing along to songs I like because that's like my favorite thing.

But it's like.

You need to have a shtick.

I don't have a shtick.

I know.

I always think of Claudia, like she always says that, like, you need to have like a niche, like, on TikTok.

Like, that's how you like pop off.

Yeah, but she's also telling that to herself.

No, I know.

Oh, she was not saying it to me, but that's like her thing, like, about TikTok.

It's like, you need a niche.

Um, and like, I just like, I think I was like really hoping that like I would become like this like curator of amazing music who would like pop off and like I'd be showing everyone such good music, but like no one really cares.

I think that music is just way too personal.

And even people who are like famous music, like curators, I don't know, like Zayn Lowe would be someone who comes to mind.

It's like, how many TikTok followers?

Like, he's not popping off.

It's so true.

It's so true.

In another life, I was like Zane Lowe.

Maybe, like, on a radio show.

On a radio show.

In another life, you were Tanya Rad.

In another life, I was Tanya Rad.

That's my life.

I love her.

So I'm happy for her.

That is, it is my dream job.

Like, to be influencer and a radio show host where you bring on the new music to like the biggest show in the country.

Like, people are listening to you, but you only have to talk about and talk to the people that you care about.

It's seriously, like the more you say it, it's my dream job.

The only thing I'll say is, like, she has really early mornings, and I don't, I don't do well with that.

That's true.

But you do work really hard, and we're really proud of you.

Aw, thanks, Jax.

Okay, before we get too sappy, I'll let you go.

You guys, thank you so much for listening to the toast.

We will see it tomorrow.

Love ya.

Bye.

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