The Free Toast with Suzy Weiss: Friday, May 30th, 2025

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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

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Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Fry Dairies.

I am joined by a new toast guest who I'm so excited excited to chat to as they say on love island it is susie weiss from the free press welcome susie i'm buzzing i'm buzzing for so many reasons we've never met before no but i've been reading your stuff for so long so you work for the free press which was started by your sister

one of my sisters one of your sisters so i have been reading free press and i've been following barry since she left the new york times i'm a common sense og sister wow and then that's like if you're a brother it's like if you're a brother i have so many questions about the behind the scenes of common sense free press but then I read like everything that comes my way.

And of course, the pop culture stuff is like my fave.

Yeah.

And you are the culture reporter for the free press.

I'm the culture critic, I guess.

Yes.

Film, TV, what's going on in the zeitgeist.

So I read your stuff all the time.

This is like parent trap.

It's like, Howie, we're sisters.

Annie, what twins?

We are.

We have so much in common.

So I read your stuff all the time.

And it wasn't until Barry reached out to Claudia and I about you doing the toast this week.

Yes.

That I realized that you guys are sisters.

My stage mommy.

Right.

Susie Weiss and Barry Weiss are sisters.

It's It's shocking stuff.

I know.

That I never put together.

Well, it's like the Hadids have a new sister as of this week.

Did you see that?

But we don't talk about that.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like, no thanks.

No, we're fine.

I don't know who they are.

So you have been working at the Free Press for how long?

Since it started.

We started it together.

What were you doing when Barry was at the New York Times and when she left?

New York Post.

Paper of record.

Paper of record.

Somebody say.

I'm a post-girly.

Oh, you are?

I'm a page six girl, too.

Oh, it's so good.

You know what they say about page six.

You don't want it on page six.

Don't do it.

Don't do it.

I know, but you know, page six loves to like clip stuff from our show.

Thank you to the team of page six.

Oh, yeah.

I saw them with Barcelona KFC.

So we have to make news today.

What can you tell me?

You had like real like multimedia heavy hitters on.

I was watching Lexi Wood and I was like, how long recovery face transmitter?

Like, I was like, this is horrible.

It's like people podcasted for like 15 years.

No, I know, but you come from like a different part of the media world.

Right.

Though you are very pop culture well-versed.

So I thought you would be such a perfect guest co-host for like actual talking out the stories, conversation, and just my personal interests.

Like, I want to get to know you.

Like, how old are you?

29.

And where do you rank in the Weiss sisters?

There's four Weiss sisters.

Four Weiss girls?

Four, four Oshries.

Yeah.

I'm the Margo.

I'm four.

You're the Satchel.

You're number four.

What number is Barry?

What do you think?

The oldest.

Of course.

Classic.

So what are your other two sisters?

Are you two?

I'm number two.

What kind of energy do I give off?

One?

I think you're such a one because you're kind of, you're all business.

Are you bossy?

Ones are bossy.

I'm not bossy actually, but I am a bit controlled.

You just know how you like.

I'm just like, I'm sitting in the corner seething about what's going wrong, but I will not boss people around and tell them about it.

Okay.

So

that makes me.

I feel like one, like oldest and youngest.

You, you know it when you see it.

Middles, they say black sheep.

They say peacekeeper.

So like there's really a peacekeeper.

But there's like no like true middle type.

Like you know an oldest when you see her, especially when you're not like dead middle, like a number two out of three.

When you're two, like Quadi and I are the middle children, but we don't suffer from middle children.

No child syndrome.

Because when you have an even number, that sort of evens itself out.

And single, I think having all girls.

I'm very pro single sex.

Have all girls are all boys.

It's inappropriate, really, to mix.

I agree.

Like, what do you do on a hotel?

It's inappropriate.

On a vacation, like, what do people do with their mixed gender children in a hotel room?

Do you get separate rooms?

I actually probably not, but like, that's.

Do you use mixers?

You have mixers at night.

That's weird.

By the way, Ruby,

such a good name.

Yes, Claudia's baby.

It's so beautiful.

Ruben.

It's Ruben.

He's, that's his legal name, but like, totally, Ruby is the name.

But I was just like on the way here, I was like, Rubetube.

Oh, my God.

Rubrubar.

I'm having delicious definitions.

Yes.

Having so much.

Strawberry rhubarb pie for the summer.

There's so much

lore with Ruby.

How is she feeling?

She's doing great.

She's still Claudia, you know.

Perfect.

You got nervous.

Well, yeah.

And also, like, it can be really stressful and you are not getting any sleep.

And like, you're just sort of like on the edge.

And like, you can lose your mind in the early days.

And like, she's doing so great.

And she has a really good like cadence, her and Ben.

Like, they're crushing it.

I don't want to change anything, but they're crushing it.

And she's happy and she's well and all is well.

Wow.

Brochusham, Brock Hashem.

IYH.

I'm not done talking about you.

Okay.

So what does sisters two and three do?

Sisters two and three, not in the media biz.

Okay, which is so funny because these are the questions that people ask me when they just like are getting to know me.

Yeah.

I'm like, oh, that's interesting that that's what you care about.

But okay.

But now I'm like, yeah.

Yeah.

Are they close?

Suzanne close.

How's it calling Susie wind up?

And do they also have four letter first names?

Yeah.

No, one has a five, but we're all E's.

We're all Z, Barry.

Well, I'm Suzanne.

Barry, Casey, Molly, Susie.

Barry, Casey, Molly.

Where'd you guys grow up?

Pittsburgh.

Didn't know that either.

I know.

Great time.

Do people.

Yeah, I don't know.

I love being one of four girls.

I'm curious because we also work with our siblings.

And I'm obsessed.

I'm obsessed with it, but like a startup family business is its own beast.

We're literally

parallel, but so different because like we're pod, but it's all the same.

I should be in your guys' business because.

And I should be working with Barry.

Honestly, you should be working with Barry because Barry will be like, well, what do you think of the Iran deal?

And I'm like, but what do you think of the Sugar Bear hair deal?

Should James Charles have accepted it and we're like no there's like no middle ground there but uh we make it work and my sister-in-law is also Barry's wife Your sister-in-law oh Nellie Nellie and she also works she co-founded the free press yes yes and she does the TGIS newsletter it's amazing it just came through this morning it's great stuff so if you're not a subscriber to the free press definitely go and do that like it's it's what do they say it's like a cringy thing that they say in media but it actually applies well it's like a disruptor no oh also that but it's like you get your cereal with your broccoli.

Like it's like both the healthy, like the meaty stuff that you need with a sprinkle of like sugar on top.

Yeah, I would say it's, it's what you need to know.

It's sort of what people liked about old media,

curiosity, independence.

Questioning.

Questioning, kind of covering a really wide breadth of stories, but it's voicey.

It doesn't pretend the internet doesn't exist.

We have a lot of great writers and new columnists now, and it's so much fun.

Yeah.

Thefp.com.

Thefp.com.

Also, Kat Rosenfeld is a columnist, right?

Oh, she's brilliant.

And she's also a writer.

She writes books.

Yeah.

Cause I read one of her books.

Yes.

And then I was like, is this the same person?

Yeah.

I'm going to get all the behind the scenes T about the free press.

Like, what's the office culture like?

The office was, oh my God.

Well, because it's a family business.

Like the other week, I go, Barry, please stop tickling me at work.

And like our editorial assistant was like, oh, God.

Like we were on this huge Zoom meeting once because we also do these big debates.

We did, was the sexual revolution a mistake?

Like all these kind of like big events.

Which is what we're here to discuss today.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm Kidding.

Just kidding.

Don't beat your pants.

It's going to be okay.

And we're in this big zoom and it's like these kind of meaty producers and it's like really serious and cameramen.

And Barry goes, okay, you should get there Thursday.

Suze, it's fine if you get there Friday.

Don't forget your undies.

Like a 20-person meeting.

Would you have your undies?

You have forgotten your undies.

Yeah.

Like she does need to tell me.

So I can't really get mad.

That's really funny because Claudia and I work together, but it's really, we have a very small team.

Like we're very bare bones.

So it's not like we're have a rest of like an office culture

and like where we have to be like buttoned up in certain scenarios and then unbuttoned in others.

But that's a funny dynamic.

Yeah, because we're like talking about work or business or, you know, hiring someone.

Then it's like, dad is so annoying.

Like, oh my God.

And then we're like, we're kids again.

You know what I mean?

And like, we have our own language.

Like, you and Claudia have our own, your own language.

It's, it's, it's fun.

What were you doing at the New York Post when you worked there?

I was doing features.

Um, so culture, culture coverage.

Like, like what's it was a lot of like internet culture dating mating relating um losers jackasses assholes like that trends um i covered um like people only eating meat i covered remember those ray wellness drops that were on tick tock that girls were obsessed with tick tock oh okay they were these like they were wellness drops and really they were just a laxative to make you skinnier but of course they were like greenwashed to be like these these are so good for longevity and a moon boosting and it's like how do you know they're good for longevity?

It's like, you don't know if you're dead yet.

You know, like, I don't know, I'm like, all these things that are like

good for longevity.

It's like, well, who's to say, babe?

Like, I think you have to wait it out.

So true.

Okay.

I'll stop making that claim.

But it's a lot.

Some things maybe are good for longevity.

But

yeah, so I was covering all sorts of stuff.

And then Barry left the New York Times, called me up and said, do you want to do this?

And if Barry had called me and said, like, we're starting a floral business, or I don't know if you feel this way about Claudia, like we're starting a bakery.

Like, are we doing it it's like yeah where's my apron like yeah of course like sort of whatever it would have been I would have been happy to do no I totally agree did you always see yourselves eventually working together considering you were both working in media or you were just sort of like on parallel she's 12 years older than me yeah so I was just like she's doing her own thing and I'm like you know finding someone who lost 80 pounds on leading McDonald's for the New York Post and then once you do it and they're like find someone who lost 100 you also wrote something about Ozempic

a few weeks ago yes and I was actually like sending quotes to Claudia because it was also, you're a very funny writer.

So that's why you're such a great writer.

Like I actually laugh out loud.

And it was a really good piece.

And you were talking about like women who are just a couple, like 10, 15 pounds overweight, who wouldn't typically be a candidate for like a weight loss medication, but it's changed their lives.

Like, just like that thing that's always been like niggling at them is gone.

Yes.

And it's like, if you can pay a dollar amount, I always and that's going to be me one day.

I just want everyone to know.

Like, that will be me.

Well, I think that will be me using O Zem in a while.

Just Jackie, oh, oh, oh, oh,

put me in, coach.

Oh, my God.

When I read that article, I was enjoying it, but I was also extremely jealous because I'm like, this sounds wonderful.

Well, it's going to be, it's going to, it's coming out as a pill in early 2025.

And then I think it's almost going to be like Tylenol, where it's like, oh, I feel a little big.

I feel a little hungry.

Yeah, I feel a little hungry.

Let me pop this pill.

It's a miracle.

Yeah.

And I think it's sort of similar to the birth control pill that sort of allowed women to act more like men in a way.

I get to decide when I have my kid.

I get to focus on my career.

I get to do all this stuff.

I mean, we all know how men lose weight.

They eat a little less tortilla chips.

Yeah.

Three less and they lose 40 pounds.

Right.

It's unbelievable.

A woman, it's just harder to lose weight.

Yeah.

And it's just one of those big dividers.

And I think we're about, I mean, I kind of went, we're about to see a revolution in this space.

No, I think that you said that in your piece and it's such a good analogy.

Like it is like the birth control pill.

It gives you like autonomy over when you're going to lose weight when you're, especially as you're having children.

And it's like, of course, there's a million things to consider.

The thought of your body changing is not the greatest feeling, but it's like knowing that at the end of the journey, there's going to be something that will help you feel like yourself again.

Like that kind of takes the pressure off a little bit.

Or like, yeah, exactly.

Like go up the mountain if you want, but there's like a car right there if you want to get into it.

And it's like, okay,

maybe I'll go up the mountain, but if I want to get in the car, I'm going to get in the car.

Yeah.

It's,

yeah, I think I thought about when I was writing that essay, like, how many millions of Weight Watchers points have been counted in my lifetime?

Like, how many shorts?

Have you ever been overweight?

I've been at my heaviest.

I mean, we're short.

I'll tell you.

Of 5'1.

And I agree, every pound, it's like, yeah, I was overweight.

Yeah, it's like that time I gained.

No, it's like you have one meal and you're like, I need to go to an inpatient center.

Literally, it's like when you're so short, like yesterday, I'm overweight.

Today I'm BMI correct.

Like it's the difference of pounds.

It's, it's unbelievable.

I mean, I also got a nose job oh okay like what it would have been like 10 years ago now okay and it really works it's like you don't think about that thing that really bothered you anymore and of course i'd love to be like transcendent over my body and one with mother gaia and mother earth and never give a second thought i'll be that way when i'm skinny

yeah yeah exactly me too when the dress fits and i can wear whatever i want and not think about my arms yeah i'm not gonna be worried that i'll be one with mother earth exactly yeah oh my god that's really funny so have you ever been overweight or it's just like feeling that way it's really an internal thing i've never been like diabetic or pre-diabetic yeah i've probably been like big for our category yeah of 5'2 because i think what are we supposed to be like 25 pounds like like 100 like 5'2 is 110 pounds well i remember well how old was remember when courtney talked about she was like 90 pounds or something but like she all she looked great she looks

and she's also like she's 5'1 she's super they're all really short yeah no it's like at five foot you're supposed to be 100 pounds and then it's like five pounds per inch after that it's just not gonna work for

with that

or with gove or any of it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm not like brand specific.

I can't get whatever fun.

You've never taken it?

No.

It came around when I was pregnant with my first.

And then like my philosophy is like, I don't really want to take it until I'm done having kids.

If I can help

that.

Yeah.

So that's sort of like where I'm at.

We'll see.

Yeah.

It's funny.

The response to the essay, there was a lot of people who were like, it just can't, it's not allowed to be this easy.

Like it shouldn't, like there's something almost spiritually wrong with getting a quick fix.

And it almost felt like people, like when TV came out to be like, I'll stick with my radio.

Thanks.

Yeah.

Sort of like angry that they're not going to get, that they had to do the hard thing.

Yeah.

I don't know.

We'll see.

There's all these crazy studies coming out.

Tim did, do you know Tim Dylan?

He has this amazing joke because, you know, Ozempic makes you stop gambling.

It makes you

less prone to shopping addiction.

You're less of an addict.

It's like turning everyone into like a Norwegian.

It's like we're literally all going to be walking around and like blonde with like ski gear on.

But if everything is true about this drug, like it may be a miracle drug cut to seven months later, like we're all dying on like the side of the road.

But we'll see.

We'll see.

Or it could be the key to longevity.

Exactly.

The key to the real, what was it?

Blue, Blue Zone?

What's that?

Is that that guy?

The Blue Zones were like the places in the Mediterranean where if you ate like them, you would live to 100.

Blue Zones were places where people left to 100.

I do think it was debunked.

Oh, got it.

Where'd you go to college?

University of Michigan.

Nice.

Where'd you go?

No blue.

Columbia.

Classic.

Yeah.

She probably knew that.

Yeah.

That's why she's big mad.

That's why she is who she is.

She's so big mad.

She's big mad, and she should be.

Well, I went to Colgate, and I look like a proud Colgate alum today.

My maroon, this is Colgate colors.

But this is the bar.

What is the bar?

It's a brand started by an influencer, Bridget.

Her handle is at Bridget.

I don't know if anyone knows her last name, but she's like such a queen.

If you don't follow her, you totally should.

And these sweatshirts like just took over the world.

This isn't your first time seeing one in person.

It's authentic.

Can I touch it?

Yeah, no, that's a sweatshirt, but it's really, well, I've washed this one a million times, but like before you wash them, they're so oversized, like in the exact way that you want the oversized sweatshirt to be.

And that's why it was a bar revolution.

Is it bar drinking bar or protein bar?

Neither.

Or setting the bar.

It's like setting the bar.

Oh, I love that.

Okay, that's really good.

I just wrote, do you know David Protein Bars?

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Oh, my God.

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You're welcome.

David might be the queenie.

David might be the queen.

Might be the queenie.

We're going to do queenie and weenie today because it's fried dairies and that's what we do on Friday.

So you've come prepared.

And also another fun fact about you is that you're a swirly.

Like you're a big toaster.

I'm a big toaster.

Jackie, I have to tell you, there were war rooms.

at the free press HQ preparing for this today.

Oh, really?

Like, like go Pargy and Key Job, like the whole thing.

And they're like, they're like drilling me.

And I'm like, oh my God.

And everyone in my life is a toaster.

So I would do this thing where I'll go up to someone.

I'll be like have you heard of this podcast like the toast like obviously I know they heard of it and they go oh my god I go I'm hosting this podcast I don't I don't know they go oh you're hosting this and it's like the amount of people who are like shout me out shout me out shout me out and it's like hello everyone who is at Julie's wedding this weekend it was such a beautiful wedding my best friend got married at Julie's wedding where did she get married in Pittsburgh my best friend's wedding Oh fun which is a very like your sister having a baby it's this very heavy fraught but amazing thing yeah because you're worried like oh my god they're gonna evaporate into the ether but but then, oh my God, they're just, they're here, but they're just kind of better.

Yeah.

No, it's like, it's so the same.

And now they're not like this stressful bitch planning a wedding.

They're just like your friend that you have back and who's enjoying her life.

I know, but it's hard for me.

I don't know what to do during the wedding because there's like a vibe.

You probably know how to handle this around the bride where it's like.

Celebrity.

Celebrity.

Yeah.

And it's like, I want to be able to talk to my friend, but like, I don't want to say the wrong thing.

And I always say the wrong thing.

Like at the welcome drinks, we were watching the Knicks game and then the Knicks lost.

And then I turned to my best friend, Julia.

I go, would have been way better at the next one.

And it's like, yeah.

But who are the Knicks are playing the Pacers?

Where do they hail from?

Oh, where do the Pacers hail from?

I thought they were from your state.

Philly?

Pennsylvania?

Indiana.

Indiana.

That's what I was going to say.

This whole time I thought they've been going back and forth.

Like Philadelphia Pacers, my favorite team.

Well, we have some Knicks news.

We have some sports news.

Great.

Which will be great.

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And they're like, and that'll be $6,000.

thanks Bruno thanks Bruno but Bruno's doing great actually and his teeth are beautiful but yeah pet insurance because you just never know what's gonna happen our first story some sports news Nick's game

six last night they won and they won and you can feel it in the air I actually it's just electric thing is I couldn't feel it in the air usually I know if they won or didn't win based on like when I wake up in the morning if like Ben's offer has like posted like stories if he's gone quiet they've lost like yeah and so I never have to like seek out if they've won or or not.

It just finds me.

But this morning I like had to go to New York Post Sports, like, did they win?

And I felt like, and they did, but I feel like no one was making a big deal out of it, even though it was like a do or die game.

Well, yeah, because they lost the last two.

So I think they were like, pull this one out.

If they lost this one, they're out.

But they didn't lose it.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it should be loudly more excited.

I just saw Ben Stiller tweeting about it because he's like a die hard Knicks fan.

Yeah, it was amazing.

I love Celebrity Row.

I love the outfits so the the story for us is that Kylie and Timothy um went to the game and passionately made out on the sidelines I saw

from all angles like I seriously love these two what are your thoughts on them together forever but I will add that I always think every couple is together forever like I'm shocked whenever anyone

feels the same way like I'm like it's done like put a fork in it it's so good I think they're an amazing couple I think he's likely the dad that stepped up um and I'm so happy for her I think she looks gorgeous I agree.

She's just a joy to watch.

Like, even she just posted like a makeup video yesterday of her doing her makeup.

Like, it's nothing revolutionary.

I could watch it on repeat.

She's just like, she's so confident.

She's so beautiful, happy.

Moisturized in her lane.

She's just like, I'm obsessed with her.

And I was happy to see them again because they've taken a little break from games, but also they were playing in, I guess, Indiana.

And this would have been bad if they lost, but I'm starting to feel like Kylie's a good luck charm for the Knicks.

Just saying.

Do you predict that there's going to be a royal wedding?

No.

Between them?

No.

You don't think they're ever going to get married?

No.

I think like, I don't think, yeah, I don't think she was a wedding person.

It's like just not worth it.

And I think sooner they will have a baby.

I'm waiting for, I'm on like baby alert because she wants a lot of kids and

this is her guy.

Like, I think that they're going to, but I think she's just having so much fun and she's just like so snatched.

And it's like, it's hard to let that go.

Oh my God.

You know, I feel for her.

I feel for her that at some point she's going to have to like, you know, say goodbye to that for temporarily so i feel like she's just putting it off but i do think that's imminent i love these women who it's like they're much wealthier than the men they're with halo road bieber now yeah it's like don't count them out yeah like who can forget when like the kardashians started going to the mechal and it was like oh my god like there goes the neighborhood a little bit but now it's like oh anyone who's accompanying them is lucky yeah for it yeah uh and timothy's such a such a dream boat so charming i didn't never thought so before but now i'm totally on the timothy bandwagon like i get it everyone loves him and also he is like this great artist but he also has swagger like he's very cool i think he's probably a great guy all around people i saw a new york post article about how people are trying to get men are trying to get timothy's body and he's like spawning a different manorexia oh i don't like that because he's so like kind of thin and gangly i don't like that i don't like that but it's like let them have a taste for a second oh yeah i'm like trying to stay skinny that's so true but just in terms of like what i would want people to look like, like no thing, like all the skin guys.

No, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, this, the, like, Pete Davidson look.

Yeah, not, not for me.

No.

Um, but I do like your perspective on it.

Like, let them try.

Yeah, yeah, let them try for a second.

Let them have to exercise willpower and be miserable.

Go off.

My perspective on.

Do they have a like a compound name?

Not one that everyone's using, but Kimothy.

Kimothé, yeah.

Sounds like Kim, though.

Or Tylee.

I love Tylee.

But no one's calling them anything i feel like everybody just is sort of rooting against them except for you and i don't you know what i mean like why aren't why don't they have a couple name yeah because i ship them also they're like they're only people not falling apart yeah like they're presenting a united front they're in love no and like they're so hot and heavy and they've been this way for two years like they're still making out courtside even though they probably

not shouldn't but like that's just not what you do when you're a public figure like to be so like but they just can't keep their hands off each other oh Oh my God, they're obsessed with each other.

Yeah.

So it's like, imagine what they do in private.

I can't,

Jackie.

Cut through my pearls.

Yes.

Yeah.

What they do in private.

I don't know.

I mean, I've thought about it, obviously, but no, and just like, that's just how I think of it.

Like, they literally can't stop kissing, even though, like, most people like act cool in that situation.

I think they try their best.

I always wonder

how much time they're spending together because it's like they both seem so busy.

Yeah, well, I think they've really ingrained themselves into each other's lives.

Like, I do believe she has a place here in New York and like he works out of here a lot.

Yeah.

Um, and then he just bought a place in Beverly Hills.

His mom told us that.

Wow.

So I really, I think it's like, if you want to, you will.

Yeah.

If you wanted to, he will.

That is really the lesson of that relationship.

Blame things on scheduling issues, but like, I'm sorry, if you want to be around this person, you will be around them.

No question.

Mm-hmm.

And I also think it's a great example of like.

a different sort of family structure where it's like you had children with someone, it didn't work out.

That doesn't mean your life's over.

Yeah.

Like you can have another like run

at it and still have like a sort of like youthful, um,

like sparkly love, which I really, which I really like.

Yeah.

For them.

Me too.

Me too.

And I'm happy for the Negs.

I'm happy for Ben Soffer and the Brunson boys.

So happy for the, I love also her courtside style.

Oh, yeah.

It's very, like, very cool.

Yes.

Very, very cool with the hat.

And it's just like, he, he could maybe use a little work.

I think he's maybe gone a little overboard.

Yeah, but he's enjoying this new persona.

Like no one's ever thought he's this cool before.

Everyone like respects him and like knows he's a great actor, but like this has given him so much street cred, like being the face of the Knicks.

Like every, he, I don't know, just happened overnight.

Yeah.

But I think he's really enjoying being like the Knicks mascot.

No question.

He's the Knicks mascot and I wish, I wish him all the best.

Yeah, and he deserves it.

He's put in a lot of work of just being like the nerdy.

Who's he playing next?

Do we know?

He's doing that Gwyneth Paltrow movie that they were making out in.

Oh, yeah, the softie movie.

She gave really funny quotes about that.

Yeah, I might see that now that I want to support Timothy and I love Gwyneth.

We love Gwyneth.

In this house,

we believe science and we stay on Gwyneth Paltrow.

We believe in science.

Whatever it says.

I don't know what it says.

That's so funny.

Some more big New York news is that Taylor Swift is breaking cover, going out for dinner in New York City last night.

She went to her go-to Italian restaurant via Coroto, which isn't like major news, but it is major that she's like stepping out again.

So she's been low-key with Travis for the last few months since the Super Bowl.

He's working on his fitness.

He's living down in Florida.

Does he have long hair now?

There's like a crazy haircut.

Oh, there's flow.

There's flow going on.

Flow.

Sure.

And they have been seen like having dinner in Palm Beach and stuff, but all very low-key.

And now she like stepped out, did the thing.

New York City, all dressed up.

I love how proudly basic she is.

Yeah.

It's like, I'm going to Via Corota.

I'm getting the Cacho Y Pepe.

I'm having a Negroni.

I'm wearing my sweater and I'm leaving.

You know what I mean?

Like there's something so amazing.

Like she doesn't seek out the like deep cut, cool thing.

Yeah.

And she's like a queen for that, I think.

Yeah, that she's not going to like, it is nice that she goes to like the restaurants that are popular at the moment, like that everyone wants to go to.

They were, they were popular five years ago.

Oh, yeah.

No, but like, what was the other one?

Last fall, it was like corner store.

I don't, I'm not big in the restaurant scene.

Are you?

No, I'm i'm not big in the restaurant scene i think food culture's gotten a little broken and like broken our brains a little bit and i think people sort of like treat restaurants like you gotta try the must-have everything's must-have it's like their hair's on fire about a taco and it's like everyone needs to take a deep breath on this one you also just wrote something about like anthony boardain girlies i am getting

like are you ravaged on like backlash is or yes we both i mean i was canceled first when i was 17 now i'm being canceled again like i'm old hat at this a cancel Oh, my God.

Canceled queen.

But I'm, I'm, like, they've gotten much more sophisticated, the trolls.

Okay.

So I'm getting messages like, I know a doctor who could fix that.

And I'm like, fix what?

Like, it's so mean.

It's like, it's like, why are your teeth like that?

And it's like, oh, no.

And it's so funny because up until today, I didn't even know what you looked like.

And I'm a fan.

So where are they finding all the, like, you're not like a,

like, I think your Instagram is private.

My Instagram's private, but it's like, it's my name.

People can find it.

Yeah.

And then we did this, like, I wrote about Anthony Bourdain and how I think.

So what was the thesis to just share with the class?

The thesis about the Anthony Bourdain take was that like, perhaps you can like have a pizza without having an existential crisis.

And like, even though Anthony Bourdain was really good at what he did, he did not invent being lonely and getting drunk at the same time.

And like, you know.

A meal isn't like necessarily authentic just because you have to like go in a tunnel and army crawl to get there.

And I really hit a nerve.

I really hit a nerve with this one.

I sort of thought I assumed I would because he's a saint.

He is a saint, but I feel like what you wrote wasn't really a referendum on Andy Bourdain himself, just the way that people talk about him and like revere him.

It was about like the fanboys and girls, even though it's mostly boys, not what he did because he did cool stuff.

Yeah, he did his thing.

He worked the whole way.

He got tattooed on air.

Yeah.

He, you know,

he had drinks with the president.

That was like the whole thing when he went to Vietnam.

And it was just like, you know what, enough.

It's like, it's like, get new heroes.

I don't know.

I mean, it was, I mean.

It's more so like you're criticizing the people, people, like the way that people engage with him posthumously.

And how they engage with food.

I think the bear is to blame for this, too.

It's like you can make a sandwich without having a personality disorder.

You don't have to like, like,

like freak out.

Like, just have a burger.

Enjoy yourself.

I love how Ben Soffer eats.

Yeah.

I think it just, it's, he's having fun.

He's cooking food for Claudia.

This all came because Stanley Tucci has that new show.

Okay.

Yeah.

He's the new Anthony Bourdain, they say.

Yes, but I think he's sort of like a

healthier version?

Maybe a mentally healthier version.

Mentally healthier.

It's horrible.

I know I'm going to get like wrecked again.

And it's

I don't have any like

stake in this.

Like I'm not, I don't, I'm not super familiar with Anthony.

I don't care about with Tony.

I don't care so much like about food and food culture.

Like I like to cook and I'm learning and I'm I do like.

I'm I'm not a part of this conversation.

So like I feel like a totally unbiased sounding board.

And what you're saying to me sounds like totally innocuous.

Yeah.

No, no shade to him, but I think the legacy combined with the bear, combined with a few other things of sort of like,

it's like, are you a rock star or do you work in the back of a kitchen?

Like, I don't know.

Like, that's just, I'm just noticing things.

I'm just noticing.

Yeah.

But how do we get on this subject?

We were talking about restaurants.

So like restaurants like Via Corota.

What are your fave restaurants in the city

where they do things in a mentally healthy way?

Well, it's funny.

I feel like every time you go to a restaurant, you're like, I'll look at the menu and like the more I look at it, the less I understand it.

It's like frond, like moral guanchale.

And I'm like, what is it?

Is it pasta?

Like, it's like, you're just giving me words.

Sometimes it's adjectives.

Sometimes it's like juicy, like fronde, yeah, like leaf.

And I'm like,

um, I went to this restaurant in, I think it was Bedstead called Daphne's last night.

Oh, it was really great.

Cute name.

Yes.

And they did like a tiramisu, but instead of ladyfingers, there was croissant,

which I loved because who likes a ladyfinger?

It tastes dale.

Yeah, totally.

But Via Corota is great too.

Yeah.

I don't know if I've ever been to Via Coroto.

I'm an uptown girl when I was here.

You know, I'm a Serafina girl.

Oh, love.

Love.

I'm tried and true.

That's really, what do you get there?

A little pen made Pomodoro, penny a la vodka, and margarita pizza, and the portachova salad.

Like we keep it simple.

They do, I'm thinking of Sarah Beth's.

They do the sauce-scrambled egg that people love.

Brunch.

That's great for brunch.

Yes.

Yeah.

And that's a classic.

That's like something that I would like as well.

You're an order in or a make your make yourself.

Well, if what, like being in the city last few weeks, I'm literally ordering breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Like, obviously I'm not cooking here, but at home, like when I'm in my own environment, I prefer, like I, I do prefer not ordering in.

I would rather go to a restaurant.

I just feel like the way delivery comes, it's just not appetizing.

Well, now that we're on the subject of restaurants, I have to say.

Like the restaurant's the perfect thing.

Like you come in, they seat you, they bring you the menus you order.

Like it cannot be improved upon.

And now I feel like you go to restaurants and it's like, have you been with us before?

And it's like, no.

And it's like, let me tell you how this works.

It's a new concept where it's like 14 things off the first page and like 30 things off the second page.

And then here's a buzzer and you have to get it yourself and you actually have to cook it yourself.

And I'm a little bit like, this was a perfect thing.

We don't need more money.

I blame one, COVID, you know, because all these people did forget

QR menus.

I'd rather not eat.

And also like no more room service.

Like, oh, here you could, your food comes not on a tray on the silver

it's like one of life's great pleasures yeah it now comes like in a brown bag and it's actually down the street so like they just did blame fauci

and then also i do think people just want to keep reinventing the wheel and i also think that they kind of have to i saw um i don't know a statistic i don't know if it was right or wrong that it was like pretty much 80 of like food restaurant business comes from delivery now so i feel like they want to get people back in the restaurant or do they maybe delivery is actually cheaper overhead and then you get like ghost kitchens yeah to the ghost kitchen.

Yeah.

Stealth mode.

I love a ghost kitchen.

I used to have one, but I think it closed.

A favorite ghost kitchen?

Like one.

It just felt like home.

Like a place that I always ordered from.

And it's like, I like that their focus is delivery.

When I'm getting delivery, I want it to be optimized for delivery.

For delivery.

Like you ever order delivery from Nobu?

Yucky.

Yeah.

Yucky.

I wouldn't.

I think you don't have McDonald's.

Like, cause it's optimized for delivery.

No question.

I mean, pasta, you really can't get delivered.

I don't think.

It's steamy and sweaty.

Yeah, exactly.

So I just think that's something you need to solve for.

Yeah, there is an element of like you'll go into a restaurant and they'll be really busy, but no one will be in there.

And it's because they're doing delivery orders.

And you feel bad for the people working back there because they're serving quadruple the amount of people that they have capacity for.

And yeah, I think you're right.

COVID kind of gave an excuse for people to kind of like deteriorate the product.

But also, yeah, people wanted to reinvent the wheel.

People wanted to have touchless, contactless.

I go to a restaurant for contact.

Yeah.

To be touched.

Right.

She's just looking for contact.

I'm just skin hungry over here.

She's Anthony Warden.

Maybe us projection.

It was projection.

No, I'm just so lonely.

I'm cracking up.

It'll be okay.

We stand with Susie.

Yes, we stand a canceled queen.

Our next story is some interesting news.

Excited to get your take because Sidney Sweeney is teaming up with Dr.

Squatch to release a bar of soap made from her bath water.

So Sidney Sweeney is taking men's bath products to the next level.

On Thursday, a natural body care line called Dr.

Squatch, that's what that is, revealed that it teamed up with Ms.

Sweeney to create a soap made from her bathwater.

A joint post said, You kept asking about my bathwater after the Dr.

Squatch ad, so we kept it.

Introducing Sydney's Bathwater Bliss, a very real, very limited edition soap made with my actual bathwater.

Available on June 6th at dr squatch.com.

One thing about Sydney Sweeney, the girl is getting her bag.

Yeah.

She, I mean,

what's the

skincare brand she reps?

I forget.

Oh, I, it's on her Instagram.

She's always posting.

I forget.

I don't know what's the mayor.

It's

Laneige, yes, with the lips.

The lip with the mask.

And I mean, I love her.

You do?

Yes.

I think she's like all-American.

I think she's really fun.

I think she stays in her lane and just sort of like lets it, lets millions of flowers bloom in there.

She's not trying to also be a singer.

She's not like that's true.

And she's not like, you know, shaving her head just because she doesn't like everyone like looking at her.

Like, she's like, here, you got, this is what you like.

Here's more.

Here's my bath water.

Yeah, exactly.

She's in on the joke, though.

Yeah.

About her.

It's not like, hey, take me seriously.

My eyes are up here.

Like, she's having fun with it.

And I think, like, I kind of want to try this show out.

I guess it is for men.

I just wonder how much a brand like this has to pay her to like be so goofy like this.

Like, you know, because it's so unserious and like it is uh appealing to like people's like base instincts so like i i just wonder how they got her to go along with this and it feels like money would do that yeah but like i don't does dr squatch have that coin who's dr squatch

it's like dr brawner's like stepcousin i've never heard of dr squatch so it's also unless like she's dr squatch because the doctor could be a woman she got her phd yeah go yeah we forget it because a doctor could be a woman but you said dr squatch is my pcp because you said he is a cousin thank you for calling me a doctor.

Thank you for calling me an internalized.

Well, if Dr.

Squat, if a female PhD is creating a bar of soap with Cindy Sweeney's bathwater, I'll eat it.

But she could also just be like a regular doctor.

Not PhD.

PhD.

But she is like the doctorate.

Like an MD?

Is PhD MD?

No, there's a difference.

Right.

PhD is like teacher.

Yeah,

like Dr.

Joe Biden.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like a teacher.

what do you think of this bath?

So are you going to use it?

No.

And I feel like once it's said, like, it's for men, I feel good about the fact that I don't even have to think about,

should I be using this?

Well, it's like an axe reinvention.

Remember when Axe had like that really macho marketing?

Yeah.

Well, do you think they actually like they said

they've painted her bath water and it's a drop of bath water in each.

Like, do you think that that's even true?

Like, or it's just marketing?

I mean, I don't know what they can get away with with in terms of like puffery claims around this.

I would love to.

And in terms of hygiene, you know, not that it's,

not that anything would turn up, but like, that's like, could they sell soap and it has dirty bath soap?

Well, it's like, it's, yeah, like selling used underwear or something.

It's like when I saw that question about that the other day

for deertosis.

How would you advise?

If I found that out.

I'm too old to make complaints at this point.

I say, whatever you want.

They'll take what you can get.

You can take what you can get.

There's worse things.

He wants to be close to you.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

I mean, it's nice.

He can jump in the shower with some Sidney Sweeney bath soap.

Right.

Would you rather find Sidney Sweeney bath soap or your own dirty undies?

My own dirty undies.

Agreed.

So this is actually more concerning.

This is a good gift.

You know, every guy, like for the guy who like Sidney Sweeney's my help ass.

Yeah, yeah.

Merry Christmas.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

I mean, I love the advertising around it.

I think, I also think she's like, she's just so fun to watch.

She's mesmerizing.

And Euphoria Season 3, when is that coming out?

Filming now, TBD.

Do you watch Euphoria?

Of course.

Yeah.

And also you're on the culture beat, like you kind of have to.

I think even though, so am I, but I don't.

I think Sam's brilliant.

I think everything he does is brilliant.

Yeah.

I really do.

Sam Gurley.

Absolutely.

And I just.

Yeah.

I just, I think the show is really.

Did he also do that show with the weekend?

Yeah, he did the idol.

And you thought that was brilliant.

I haven't seen it.

Okay.

She's marked safe.

Marked safe from the end.

Yeah, exactly.

I haven't seen it yet, but I just think he's just really, his dialogue's really good.

It just feels really like fresh.

And I'm so excited to see season three.

Okay, positivity.

Yeah.

Is there anything you don't like other than Anthony Duberde's?

His legacy.

Yeah, his standard fan.

Mark is, like, that's always so frustrating when you say something and like people run with it.

She eats Anthony Mordeen.

Like that, how much?

So we just need to like make it known, Anthony Mordeen's fans.

And the culture around.

Yeah.

No, I understand what you're saying.

But he's eating too seriously, I think.

I understand what you're saying, but it's frustrating to be misunderstood, don't you find?

I do find.

I am misunderstood.

you know those like pillows they used to have for like yeah like little misunderstood yeah exactly i'm like i'm so goff because i got canceled this week i need to go to a hot topic and just like rage it's been a rough one that she had to go to daphne's oh yeah exactly no that that part was really great yeah exactly i had to go undercover yeah um i here's the thing i don't like me being misunderstood no one does but i think you get to a point where you see people intentionally misreading you and then you start to kind of wise up and be like,

yeah, when they go low, we go lower.

That's what I always say.

So I'm just trying to find a lower take.

Yeah.

Like, I'm like, you have no idea the bottom that I, that I'm going to look for and find.

Do you want to go?

How low?

Yeah, let's go, baby.

I mean, come on.

I mean, what did I write about recently that I read Melinda Gates' memoir?

Oh, did not like that.

TLDR.

Complain, complain, complain.

What's the tea?

It's like, honey, it's like, get a bauble, get a plane, get some, spend some revenge revenge money.

I mean, the, the things, I mean, Linda Gates aside, like, you're married to one, you're married to one of the richest men in the world.

I, I don't think he was particularly easy to be married to, but this, this, the book was just all about like, I had to search for myself.

I had to go on, as they say in Real Hasso Salt Lake City, a healing journey.

A healing journey.

You know what?

That's the word du jour at the moment.

Healing journey.

I was just thinking healing.

period.

I was just something like, I was thinking about something.

Everyone is healing.

Or everyone's on a journey.

Do you watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?

I watched the first.

It's funny.

My friend, my best friend is here.

We were in Florida recently and I literally like forced her at Gunpoint to watch the first season.

Some of the best television that's ever been made.

It was like before the first commercial break, she had gotten pregnant, lost the baby, gotten pregnant again.

That was all on the pilot.

Yeah.

That was unbelievable.

And then by the end of the episode, arrested.

Yes, by the end of the,

she is something else.

She is, but I will never say a bad word about her.

I'm obsessed.

I just hope Mom Paw can survive this.

I think that they can because of Taylor Frankie Paul.

Like, she will rise above.

What were we just talking?

Oh, heal.

So, oh, Secret Lives and Mormon Wise.

Like, they're all healing and they're all being held accountable.

And that's always fun.

That's my favorite.

Healing is my favorite.

I love, we love healing.

We love longevity.

Yeah.

Immune boosting.

Yeah, well, now you're on.

Collagen production.

This is classic podcast, Batenter.

Don't you know?

Really?

Yeah.

Well, not on this podcast, but other podcasts.

These are the topics du jour.

Well, I don't know if you've followed the Ace family drama.

You were telling me a little bit about it, but please, like, please be Claudia today and do a, Susie explains it all because there's a lot of drama happening.

There's a lot of scoop going on right now.

And that's that Kathy Hilton

sound.

What's the second half?

I forget.

Oh, we love Kathy Hilton.

We do.

We love all the same people.

Yeah, no, that's why I'm waiting for you to say something like really actually negative about someone.

You're really positive.

I'm generally really positive.

I will say the Ace family drama sucked me in this week and I could have some negative things to say about Austin McBroom.

Basically, the Ace family, they're this YouTube family.

They've been filming.

Like a family channel, but like the biggest family channel.

Okay.

This is the one.

They have three children.

If I couldn't name them, I really should get my University of Michigan degree taken away.

L,

Steele.

Cute.

And I forget the third one.

But they broke up.

There's been for years cheating allegations against Austin McBroom.

Do you watch YouTube?

Are you like a YouTube girl?

No.

Okay.

I only watch The Toast.

But no, I don't.

Do you watch The McBrooms?

I don't, but I like, I keep abreast.

Okay.

I go in my situation room and they tell me about it.

But the basically they broke up.

Catherine has a memoir coming out, Eliyah.

Catherine has a memoir coming out, went on call her daddy and sort of let it all out, what was going on with Austin, how he was cheating, how it went down.

Austin goes on Snapchat.

Looks like she's having a last laugh.

I mean, come on, get someone to have you on their podcast.

And he just sort of says that she became addicted to ayahuasca.

She was taking it every month.

She thought she was the Virgin Mary.

And it's sort of this like classic,

it's almost, I don't want to say Shakespearean, but it's like she is like this kind of damsel in distress that she's been

betrayed and she's coming forward about it now that she's on her healing journey.

And Austin is saying, well, it actually didn't go down like that.

She's crazy.

and it's just been so fun to watch are you gonna read her memoir no why um i just feel like i'll probably just get the highlights yeah um you read melinda's i did read melinda's yeah what that to what end um just to write about it and i and i and i wanted here's the thing i'm not gonna read Catherine's memoir because you get all of the best bits like on podcasts in the podcast and the talks on YouTube because that's what they're good.

Melinda's pretty much like private.

Linda's a close, a close book.

If you want to know anything about her, so I had to open her book.

but then she gave you nothing it's like don't tell me that you didn't find out about whatever was going on with bill and go spend half a million dollars at bloomingdales right you know what i mean or whatever her thing say what's going on with bill yeah i mean he had been unfaithful okay um but that was sort of known um but any like is the word epstein in the book the word epstein is

She says, she words it really interesting.

She says, like, I had known Bill had stepped outside the marriage, but he had done.

I don't want to miss this.

Oh, sorry.

He had done something that had like betrayed not only our marriage, but my values is how she put it.

And I'm like, give us a little.

Come on.

Okay, but that's like a pretty cool way to put it.

Yeah, like, she feeds the otters a little bit.

That's something.

I don't know.

But I guess if you're going to write a book, like you've got to say something.

Yes, exactly.

Yeah.

Otherwise, just don't write the book.

Like, we don't need, you don't need to ever tell us, but don't write a book.

Exactly.

To like help other women who are, it's about like transitional moments in life, which I think is a really good subject.

Okay.

um and i think middle-aged divorce like as like gen x and boomer start to get divorced there's so much content around that right now yeah so much divorce content you know what i was thinking the same thing especially on reality tv between watching secret lives of mormon wives and the valley yes a lot of young couples getting divorced are they like starter marriages like they were married for a year no kids yes kids That makes it hard.

Yeah, they all have kids.

So I guess it's a starter marriage because they're going to go on to probably marry again, but they all have kids.

And it's like, they are awful to each other.

Co-parenting.

That's another big word.

Oh, yeah.

Because we're co-parenting.

Yeah, but at least that's like a tangible thing that you absolutely have to do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're healing on our co-parenting journey.

Yeah, but there's no time for a journey because like the kids have to move to three o'clock.

So why don't you get over there?

Oh my God.

Bethany Frankel says a lot of really interesting stuff about divorce, co-parenting.

That's for sure.

Because she was really been through the ringer.

Yeah.

She was like, also, like, when you have kids, like, there is a limit to what you're going to say, no matter how awful that for most people, no matter how awful that person is, like that's your child's parent.

Like I would hope that there's a line.

Well, it's interesting with the Ace family because they got famous exposing the family.

Right.

It's like they're there are some people who have just been like, well, this pays the bills and it is what it is.

And they've just sort of signed that away.

And like even Jackson Brittany, like they're not, there's very little that they hold back because at this point they can't.

That's their life.

That's their job.

It's as if they're doing their job.

But some people who are just have other jobs, like influencer, pot, like even um, Kristen Cavallari is a good example.

She doesn't, I know she'd probably been through a lot with her husband, but she doesn't talk that negatively about him.

Yeah, I think, I think it's hard.

It's, I think you have to kind of decide at the outset.

And I love to watch influencers, like after they have a kid, like this parent wants to show the face, this parent doesn't.

Yeah, this parent wants to reveal the name, this parent doesn't, um, because the kid can't really consent.

Right.

Do you watch the Paul Brothers show?

I did.

Did you love it?

I loved it.

They are, they're great American entertainers.

They talk about that a lot.

Yeah.

You watched it.

I loved it.

I loved it.

But they had that conversation, Nina and Logan, about whether or not they would show their kids' face.

And she was feeling more private.

And he was like,

couldn't conceive of taking a photo and not posting it.

But I think they're still in a flux because they were basically like, well, she's a baby, like, it kind of doesn't matter.

Yeah, because their face changes so much.

Yeah.

But then once they get older, you're like, well, we already posted her as the baby.

Right.

But if you, and if you get comfortable posting, like, when, at what point is it like, okay, well, today she looks too much like she's going to look.

Yeah, you don't know.

But I think their thinking was like, eventually when she's not a baby, they won't post so much.

But from what I see, I don't follow them so closely on social media, but they don't really post a lot of, I don't know what they decided, but it's unclear.

Well, they're just more like brands at this point.

Like when I look at the Paul's feeds, I don't feel like I'm getting an insight into their life so much as opposed to just what they want me to know.

Right.

About Prime and about the boxing.

The show was so great.

Yeah.

They held nothing back on the show.

Oh my God.

And the parents.

Yeah.

It's so wild.

And I think there could be nothing more vulnerable than bringing a television camera crew in with you to do ayahuasca.

Like, I can't.

I didn't see that part.

Oh, yeah.

He went to Jake because Jake does it.

And he brought the dad because when he did ayahuasca, he had all these breakthroughs.

So he thought that his dad would have the same ones and then they could, you know, get on the same page

in an earnest way.

But

imagine like being on drugs and just like,

who knows what's going to happen next?

And they're just filming you.

Like, that's a serious level of like comfortability with just being totally open.

I think like the maybe Galaxy Brain take is that they only feel comfortable like that.

Like Galaxy Brain.

Like they're only feeling like their best self or able to share because like there's a lot of beef between

Jake Logan.

Jake and Logan.

And I'm like, are they even able to talk about it in private?

When are they, are they always just like, no, we need to like parlay this into a bit of content?

It really kind of gets you thinking.

That's an interesting point.

I wonder what they're like when no cameras are rolling, but we would never know.

We would never know.

How did they talk about it?

They're like, it's like jackass meets Kardashians or something.

Yeah, I guess that's a good way to put it.

And they live in, they both live in Puerto Rico.

They both live in Puerto Rico, but then like Logan has his family home upstate.

That's where they were like nesting.

Upstate New York?

Yeah.

Wow.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

It's like a

cabin, but a big one, you know, but like log, logs, made of logs, cabin,

joggers, springs on.

I mean, the really interesting thing about that brotherhood is that Jake holds that the dad abused them.

And Logan is like, he wouldn't use that word.

He wouldn't use that word.

Yeah.

And figuring that out

on television, I think is tall order.

In addition to like the Alyssa Violet of it all, the girl.

Well, this is actually funny.

This is kind of where we started talking about like working with siblings in your new media venture.

Right.

They're so digital media venture with our Oshre Weiss-coded.

Yeah, we need a, we need a panel.

We need, need, we need Andy Cohen and we need all the siblings.

You know, the Paul's, the Austrian's the Weiss.

I was going to say like a good podcast would be like sibling interviews, but that's actually what Kate Hudson and her brother do.

Oh, really?

They have a podcast called Sibling Revelry and they interview siblings.

And Michelle Obama and her brother have a podcast, too.

Do they interview siblings?

They don't interview siblings.

You have a niche.

Yeah.

Do you podcast a lot in

your daily life?

Like, cause you guys have a podcast.

Barry has a podcast.

Barry has a podcast.

I'll like host it or I'll like pop in very, very occasionally.

You were on a video talking about Haley Bieber.

Well, you were talking about something.

She came up.

Oh, I was talking about Justin Bieber and the crash out.

Yeah.

And the crash out.

I don't, I really want to do a podcast.

No, no one would watch this, so I'm not going to do it.

Do you go on Chat Roulette ever?

No.

Do you remember it?

Yes.

I go on Chat Roulette all the time still.

And I would love to do Chat Roulette the podcast where I just talk to people on Chat Roulette.

That's a pretty good idea.

Isn't that a fun idea?

Yeah.

Because I think everyone who hosts a podcast is always like, it'd be great if we got like regular people.

Like, how do you get them?

But the problem is you like, you don't know what they're going to say.

It might not be that interesting.

Right.

So you might have a lot of stuff that ends up on the cutting room floor.

Right.

That's true.

I think it would just be like

kind of produced.

Yeah.

But in a fine way.

That's fine.

So if you, if I ever have a podcast, that will be it.

But for now, this is like, this is like the biggest.

most glam podcast I've ever done.

Well, it's also the biggest most glam podcast, period.

Yeah, that's true.

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Navigating a plant-based lifestyle.

I mean, it's

hard to navigate a plant-based lifestyle.

Do you have any dietary restrictions?

No.

That's good.

I really don't.

And I'm, um,

I'm writing about the David Protein Bar, one of your sponsors, huge amount of protein in that.

Yeah.

But I don't get the protein.

Like, I feel like once you start poking around internally and like, how many people do I know who are like, I stopped eating gluten and I feel so different?

It's like, I don't want that to happen to me.

I just don't want to feel so different.

Well, then I can't eat gluten forever.

Like, oh, that's true.

Like, you don't want to eat it.

I'm just going to get comfortable with whatever this is.

And if I never find out that it's bad, then

I feel like for at least like the people that I know who have stopped eating gluten, like, it's because they were feeling wrong before, you know, and they were feeling like there was something was wrong.

So then they had to find the source of it.

But if you don't feel that way, then you're gluten intolerant.

Are you gluten intolerant?

No.

No.

Oh, yeah, sourdough queen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I eat everything.

Would you consider yourself a girl boss?

I guess, like,

you know, dictionary definition, I am a girl boss, but I don't identify as one, you know?

Totally.

Like, like, I don't want to be a part of like the zeitgeist, but yes, I'm a classic case of a girl boss.

Yeah, yeah.

Aren't we all?

It's advanced.

It's chronic.

Yeah, it is.

But it's now it's just, it stands for something that I don't want to be a part of.

Yeah.

It's just like cringiness.

Yeah, I completely agree.

Yeah.

Emily Sumberg, the writer who does this amazing culture column called Feed Me, writes about like, we're kind of in like Girl Boss 2.0 era where you have like,

I forget her name.

She's like a podcast, like an entrepreneur who has a podcast.

It's a lot of like panels sitting on panels and you're like sort of like business suit.

Em agreed.

Yes.

Crushed it.

Crushed it.

What did she say about her?

That she's just like the new incarnation.

It's like we're kind of done with like.

But I just want to say, if she's the new incarnation of Girl Boss, like I'm here for that.

I like everything that she says and I like what she does.

And I don't find it cringe.

And she's the real deal.

She's also on Shark Tank.

No way.

Yeah.

She was a guest shark.

And she like co-owns all those Kardashian brands.

And then she's also like a mom of four.

And she's really doing it.

She's a genius.

And she, like, when she does some of those panels, I see some of those clips go viral.

Like, she's doling out hard truths, like things that people like don't want to hear.

Like, you can't have it all.

You, you like can and you can't.

Like, something is going to suffer.

It's not just like, lean in, lean in.

What do you just lean in?

Trying to lean out.

Totally.

Trying to lean all the way out.

Totally.

I'm too far deep now i'm too i've leaned in and i can't get up yeah

it's so true oh my gosh um are you seeing anyone single single ready to mingle i was at my best friend's wedding this weekend and i was with my other best friend we kept going around We thought it was funny.

This is probably why we're single because we thought this was funny going, we're just married to our career.

We just love our, we love our independent time.

You know, I don't want someone else in the house with me.

You know, just my, my career's really taken on.

And it's like, shut up.

Who cares?

But yeah.

Cute.

Looking for the one.

Okay.

Well, you're going to keep your eyes peeled.

We're going to manifest.

Yeah, let's manifest.

My friend called me the other day.

I will keep my eyes peeled.

You said you're 28 or 26.

29.

Oh, so you said either.

So perfect.

Let's go 26.

Grash it.

But yeah, if you know anyone.

I will.

Think about it.

Yeah.

I only have a few requirements.

Funny, Jewish,

kind, really tall if he stands on his wallet.

But we're also short.

So it like, it doesn't matter

more candidates.

Do you go on the apps?

I'm not an app girly.

I think you've got to get on the apps.

I've done the app.

It's not like an I'm too good for it type situation.

It's like I know some people, it's just like, it's not ideal.

It's, and it's like, that's.

I've gone on 10,000 app dates.

Oh, okay.

They just don't work for, it's just, it's never that.

All the people I've dated, it's dinner parties, parties.

I feel like you would have a big network.

I do have a bit.

I'm a, I'm a shotgun.

I set people up.

Oh, you do?

Yeah.

Oh, we'll have to chat offline.

Yeah, well, yeah, the one that you set up would have worked for you.

No.

You don't want to set up someone who you want for yourself.

Well, of course, but no one like ever came across your desk.

You're like, I'll take this one.

Don't worry about it.

His file away.

I'm going to make sure he's not poisonous.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That never happened.

No, it's not happened yet.

Okay.

How many people have you set up?

One that like toy, toy, toy, like two that I'm confident in.

What?

So the one is like new?

Yes.

Yeah.

No, no marriages yet.

Okay, but you know, if you get three shit offs, right?

Straight to heaven.

So, Susie, like, I think it, and it's also just really good juju and karma to set people up.

And I think there's like also a like setting people up in a certain way, which is just like, let them do it.

Like, oh, do you want to meet this person?

Do you want to meet that person?

Here's the number.

Hands off.

Agreed.

Don't try and do a dinner where you're going to bring everyone together.

No, no, no.

Here's the number of someone who is single, eligible, anything you would like.

Yeah.

And if you don't want to reach out, not my problem.

You know what I mean?

You just have to have a light time.

Have you ever set anyone up?

Definitely, though I can't think of anyone.

I would like to have set people up.

I don't know why I thought I did.

Yeah, I've definitely said, I'm always like, I have an ear out, you know, but I just don't know that many guys is my problem.

Well, you can.

My whole life is girls.

Yeah, it's true.

So that's why I can't like really be super helpful to anyone.

Where are those guys hiding?

I don't know, but also I'm just like not a girl who ever had like guy friends.

I don't have brothers.

Like you're a girl's girl.

I'm such such a girl's girl to a fault.

I know.

It's so much more fun, though.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm a happy girl's girl.

Yes.

It's very joyful, but I guess, yeah, I don't have like connects and I don't have like great single guy friends.

And I went to a college that wasn't like super Jewish.

So like, I don't have

that where I would have had even like, so I just don't have that many.

I know.

I think of you guys as very like Yeshiva League.

We are so yeshiva league.

Which is, I'm, I was so jealous of the yeshiva.

I went on a gap year and like the yeshiva league girls, I was like, they are so mean.

They are so like cutting.

And I love them.

Where did you go on a gap year?

To Israel.

And did you go to

Yeshiva High School?

No, no, they're

secular.

Public school.

I went to Taylor Alderdice High School.

Mac Mueller went there.

Wiz Khalifa went there.

Oh, cute.

It's like a culturally resonant high school.

Got it.

I could see that.

Where'd you guys grow up?

In the city.

In the city.

What did you do in Israel?

What sort of program?

It was just like a study.

It wasn't really religious, but I figured it'd be just like a study abroad.

It was study abroad.

It was travel.

I was like

watching Donnie Darko on an iPod Touch in the back of a coach bus while people were looking at the Taj Mahal.

Like I was really like, it was, I'm not really a travel girl.

Me neither.

I don't care about it.

Yeah, no, it's like I.

People are disgusted when they hear that.

Yeah.

I don't like to say it so often, but like if you know me, like I don't travel a lot.

I don't have the travel itch.

I really don't.

I'll also say like this, this is my the Louvre.

You know what I mean?

I don't need to see the Louvre.

Like right here, talking to someone, having my iced coffee swirling the ice around in Midtown, what more do you need out of life?

It's like, what am I going to see out there that's going to be

any better

than

exploring the depths of a new person?

Yeah.

What was your major in college?

I studied business and art history.

Oh, interesting.

That's a good duo.

Yeah, it was a good duo.

And then I went into writing and girl bossing.

And that gives you actually like a lot to, a lot of good foundation for like subjects, business and art history.

Art, yeah, looking around.

Art is a good thing to know.

Art is a good, I think it's people are so like, it's so so hard to know what you're looking at.

And it's so easy to get embarrassed and not like feel like you have a valid opinion because you don't know everything about something.

And it's such a like cloistered world.

But that really could be a, could disrupt that.

We could.

Art history needs a new media disruption.

Got to find some siblings.

I think so.

Well, are you ready for our next story?

Speaking of weddings, word has emerged, some word on the street about what transpired between Victoria Beckham and Brooklyn and Nicola at the Nicola Brooklyn wedding.

This is what sources are saying: that Victoria Beckham stole the spotlight at Brooklyn and Nicola's 2022 wedding.

A source close to the Peltz family, so this would be Team Nicola, claimed that Victoria stole the happy couple's special dance during the reception.

So Grammy Award winner Mark Anthony took the stage to perform at the wedding.

And the story goes that he was supposed to sing a song that would be Brooklyn and Nicola's first dance.

Before the song began, Mark Anthony asked Brooklyn to come to the stage and then said, the most beautiful woman woman in the room tonight, come on up, Victoria Beckham, which is not what a bride wants to hear.

So the move allegedly left Nicola feeling that Victoria ruined her wedding and she couldn't understand why.

A second source who witnessed the moment said everyone then watched Nicola run from the room crying.

Nicola

during the wedding.

Nicola felt like Victoria did this on purpose when she knew it was a pre-planned romantic dance meant for Brooklyn and Nicola.

What she couldn't understand was why she would do it.

So it was such a draw-dropping moment, the source said, that it left the whole room in absolute shock.

You could hear a pin drop.

it wasn't appropriate they said so honestly i know this is just sources and stuff but like i believe it's just specific i because also after the wedding like no one wanted to be near each other there's two sources who are saying like this is what happened and i feel like a weird thing like this is exactly what could derail an otherwise perfect wedding But it wasn't a perfect wedding because weren't all the vendors stealing from them and like the party planners, they were having issues with that.

And also the other beef from the wedding is like Brooklyn, Nicola didn't wear a Victoria Beckham dress.

I think that sort of just like didn't work out.

And it just wound up looking bad for both of them.

Like, why wouldn't you wear it?

Even though it's not like when I think bridal, I think the bride has to wear a Victoria.

Victoria Beckham.

It's not like she married

your way.

Yeah, exactly.

So that wasn't, that didn't seem so smelly to me, but I could see something like this happening.

And maybe Victoria.

I don't think Victoria said to Mark Anthony, say this.

I think Mark Anthony made a bad joke.

I think so too.

But I think maybe in light of all the other dynamics that were happening that weekend, and I'm sure Nicola might have felt some sort of way.

Like, Victoria is this larger-than-life person, and like when you're in a room with her, like, it's she's kind of the number one girl in the world.

Nicola can hold her own, she can, but, like, it's your wedding, and to feel that way.

And emotions are already heightened.

I could see, yeah, I just could see it.

It seems feasible, it seems like something that's so innocuous that, like, no one went out of their way to do anything wrong, but it could totally derail the party.

Yeah, it's like you're just, you're like, um, like on a knife's edge, just ready to fucking go berserk, I feel like at your wedding.

It's just one word from Mark Anthony, one wrong word.

Oh, and she has plenty she could say back to him.

Yeah.

But this is all on the heels of the fact that Brooklyn and Nicola were not to be seen at David Beckham's 50th birthday party.

Yes.

And

the viewed has picked back up.

So after the wedding, they were like totally separate.

They weren't speaking to each other and it was like bad.

And then they all came back together and they were all supporting each other, family events.

She's in the documentary.

Like everything was good.

And then they didn't go to the birthday party and now they're not seen together again unless like things have happened.

So also Team Brooklyn Nicola have said that like the Beckhams are like narcissists, another buzzword.

Yeah.

And, you know, it's just like hard to be around them.

And I guess if you think that way about someone, then something like this would really upset you.

Yeah, that would really

upset me, but it's like, it's, it would be so easy for Nicola and Brooklyn to come out on top by being the bigger person and just like, of course, going to the wedding

or the birthday party.

They can, in private, say whatever they want and be like, that was horrible.

I'm so annoyed.

I hate them.

But they get to look like

bad kids, essentially.

And like, it's so much better for them when they're with the family and like, there's just like, it's all good as opposed to them being like this wayward couple that's like out of touch with their family.

We had reported a few weeks ago, the son reported, I don't know if it was true, that Brooklyn and Nicola were having dinner with Harry and Megan.

No way.

I mean, similar storylines there.

Yeah, but like

I wouldn't follow that template if I were them.

I'd rather the other, I'd say, what did they do?

let's do the opposite and nicola's like should i start a jam business or what what is it called um american american revere orchard is that the current name yeah no it's changed it's changed a bunch of times but with love

with love from megan with love as ever as ever thank you as ever yeah the the thing with brooklyn and nicola is um

It's like when two dynastic families merge and I think both of their families sort of have this idea of like, we're the primary family.

The number one family in this group.

And that's where, that's where issues issues happen.

And I think if it were another girl who was who didn't come from Nicola's background and something at the wedding happened like this, where it's like, again, about the Beckhams, like she would maybe just be used to it and be like, that's just, you know, what the family I'm marrying into.

They're just going to constantly make everything about them.

And like,

because I'm Cinderella, I'm from

small here.

And it's Victoria's moment.

It's her friend.

I could never have Mark Anthony at my wedding.

She's like, I could have Mark Anthony.

Right.

Name your price.

Right.

Yeah.

Like, I would have just paid you to sing the fucking song I wanted to sing.

I didn't need your favor.

Right, exactly.

But it's like, money can't buy you class.

Yeah.

As we learned from Countess Luanne.

Yeah.

I feel bad.

I hope, I hope they find a way through.

I know, but it's just not good when it gets to this point.

No.

Like when I'm talking about it.

Yeah.

But also it's like Brooklyn never really had an identity outside of being a Beckham.

Like, he tried the photography.

He tried the chefing.

I hear he's trying to be a F1 racer, but he keeps failing his driver's license test.

I read that somewhere.

His license to drive?

Or maybe to drive one of these like big fancy cars.

I can drive even barely, but I can do it.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

Our fifth and final story is a little update from yesterday.

The Christleys have been released from prison, and Julie Christley has been spotted for the first time since her prison release.

So Joey Camas was on the toast yesterday, pondering Julie's, the status of Julie's hair.

He's fabulous.

He is so great.

So fun.

And I really hadn't given him much thought prior to or even afterwards where he said, like, how is she keeping up with the blonde?

I'm like, I don't know.

She probably, even if she went back to her roots, like, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be a big deal.

And then a photo emerged of her leaving

the facility and it's kind of a big deal she looks so different but happy i mean that's a recession indicator her hair is the least of her problems at the moment it's six hours in the chair and she'll be right as rain i think what we're looking we're looking at someone her hair looks sort of like brown almost auburn and then the gray has

has grown in significantly yeah and it's almost like halfway down like an ombre from hell yeah so it's like if she went in there full blonde and then she went in full blonde i'm guessing.

Oh, oh, oh.

If she went in there full blonde, then it started to grow out brown and then it started to come in gray.

She weirdly looks like fresher.

There's something about the.

It's the look of freedom.

Yes, she's free.

Yeah.

She literally, even though I'm sure everyone's clowning on her hair, like she does not give a fuck.

This is a happy woman.

Yes.

Oh my God.

To get out of the slammer, I wouldn't care what my hair looked like.

Seven years and then in one day, you're home.

Yeah, it's like, don't worry about the hair, guys.

I'm going.

That's what I'm saying.

I wouldn't be surprised if she never dies.

Like

everything's changed now.

I mean, talk about a journey.

She's really been on a journey.

She has.

And I hope she doesn't go back to blonde.

I think it's time the Christley's in a full rebrand.

That's true.

Even if she went to brown, but they're such a blonde, like I don't watch Christly's stuff.

So like, I'm not so deep in it.

But I watched it.

It was an early spin-off.

Christly knows best.

Yeah.

Was on Bravo, right?

Yeah.

And they're really funny family.

They're almost like, they're like southern bumpkin pauls a little bit.

Like they'll just do anything.

Yeah.

And then and people like they've been on TV forever.

And Joey had also said that they are like filming right now.

So I guess like the status of her hair and how she feels about it would be on whatever show they're I hope that's not a major plot point.

I think it might be given the public's reaction to this photo.

That's her literally leaving the jail, do we think?

No, I think no.

There's a cereal and milk store right behind her.

I think it's like

at some point.

She just went to, she just went to get

her after she was released from prison, but but I think they've been like trying to get a picture of her since she got out.

I'm happy she's free.

I don't think the public was made safer by Christley being locked away.

I don't think she was like a public safety havard.

And you don't have her unsafe.

Yeah, I'm not like locked, getting a dead bolt because the Christleys are out.

You know what I mean?

It was insider training, right?

It was tax evasion, bank fraud and tax evasion.

Not a good luck, but

who among us?

It's a classic case of reality.

Not me.

Don't look at me.

I would never.

I would seriously never.

Oh my God.

That would be such a like a reality show with all of the bravo lebridies currently incarcerated.

Or a reality show of former

incarcerated reality stars who have to sit down and do their taxes and get fit.

Right.

Well, they're already fit.

They're already in jail.

Yeah.

But like watching them fill out a 1099.

Or maybe it could be educational.

Like, here is how you do it.

Cause I think sometimes it's malicious.

And sometimes I think they just don't know what to do with all this money and they don't know the laws and what you're supposed to do when you start like getting all these brand deals and like nobody teaches you that.

Well, that's well, that's obviously different too from Jen Shaw and what she's been accused of.

Well, yeah.

Or what she did.

Yes, because that's not like some paperwork missing.

That was nefarious.

Oh, yeah.

You think that Christley should be doing like financial literacy education?

I think a lot of people should be doing financial literacy education.

And I say this like earnestly, like outside of reality stars, even though I think they have it worse because it's just overnight success and overnight money.

And everyone's asking you for things.

If you go from having a job where you get a paycheck and they take your money out for taxes and you never have to think about it to then like getting this influx of 1099s, W9s.

I would have no idea what to do.

Right.

That'd be my hair.

In 10 years, I'd be walking out of jail with that hair.

And I'm not saying that's what happened to them, but that does happen.

Right.

So I just think for every, but all the criminal masterminds over here.

Right.

But also for lay people,

the tax system is fucking confusing it's i literally just do turbo tax and i just click as fast as i can and just get to the end i just i just got a credit card like last send up a prayer that you don't go to prison literally yeah i'd rather pay more right of course i'm like just take it of course just i'll pay for this to be over of course no i'd rather pay more like every time so crazy this is why i need a husband right i'm like i'm like i'm like was it worth it but you're a business major it's like yeah i get to wear pants i'm so excited i get to make my own money still have to pay my my rent.

Still have to figure out how to do these taxes.

But you were a business major.

They don't teach you that.

No, they don't.

What the fuck do they teach you?

Who knows?

Like econ?

Networking.

That's a good skill.

I don't have that one.

No, no, me neither.

You're not a schmoozer.

Well, I'm definitely a schmoozer.

But like strangers, just like putting yourself out there, going up to people.

Do you love a work event?

Happy hour drinks.

I like performing.

like with people, but I'm there's that, there's like a lot of hope core online right right now of like, there's like a girl on TikTok who just goes up to random people in the street and it's just like, hey, how are you?

Like taking the car out this week, I see.

Like just, I think it's a really good muscle to have.

And I think

anyone should be able to talk to a stranger, but it's not like, what charges my battery?

Right.

Yeah.

I'll say that.

I agree with that.

I agree with that.

Well, now it is time for queenie and weenie of the week.

And you've come prepared.

So let's start with queenie.

I have two queenies and I'm going to start with my first obvious one to give a shout out to Claudia because she hasn't been had she has had an incredible queenie-like week giving birth new motherhood and just a transformative week for our Claude and she is exuding queenie-like behavior.

So she is my queenie always.

And it's not fair if we like do each other for queenie of the week because then we'd just be queenie every week.

But because she's not here, I feel like I can say she is my queenie.

And then in my

I don't want to say celebrity queenie because Claudia is a celebrity, but also Hailey Bieber.

Hailey Road Bieber, everyone.

Yeah.

You counted her out.

You thought she was

like, I feel like everyone thought she was just like a, I mean, she, she was already wealthy.

She wasn't a gold digger, but sort of like just wanting to be famous, had no personality.

And it's like, look who got the last laugh.

Yeah, seriously.

Even though people are like, you know, she has a million investors and it's 600 million cash and she's got to pay people back, whatever.

She probably nets out to 100 million, 180 million is what they're saying.

I think that's take home.

Take home.

I think it's more than that.

If she sold the business for a billion dollars, like if she had a bunch of investors and there's three co-founders, but she didn't invest anywhere close to like and it's 600 million dollars cash, 200 million dollars stock, 200 million dollars bonuses when they achieve certain benchmarks in the future.

They're gonna achieve the benchmarks.

Yeah.

I mean, I saw you were talking about it.

It's 10 products.

Yeah.

It's unbelievable what she's done.

Even if it's 180 million or 100 million dollars, like that's what she needed.

If things were getting like tight with, like, that's what she needs to live her life.

And now I think she can sleep easier.

Do you think she's going to leave him?

No, I don't.

She's, she's they also think that she loves him.

Like, shocking.

Yeah.

Like, I think that she loves him.

And I think she loves her life and her family.

And like, and I think she, whatever issues, there's obviously issues.

He's obviously not at his best right now.

Right.

But like, that's what a marriage is, is working through them.

I think that's how she sees marriage.

I don't know her at all.

It's just a vibe.

Yeah, well, they're very religious.

Yeah.

And so I don't think they would like.

You'll just leave like because the going gets tough and he's being weird at the hockey game, even though I think it's so much more than that.

But I think she's like a standby your man.

And And if it's the rumors are true, she's been wanting to be with him since she's 13.

Like, you think she's getting up now?

I don't think so.

No, no, she may, she's probably in it for the long haul.

And like, once people have a baby, they want another baby.

Yeah.

She'll want to give Jack a sibling.

I love that name.

I love that name.

I would use that name, but I'm Jackie.

Oh, that's true.

Otherwise, like, do people call you Jack?

No, but I couldn't have a son named Jackie.

No, but it's your son named Jack.

Yeah.

Because then you would just end up calling him Jackie.

It's just the same name.

It's the same name.

It wouldn't be appropriate.

Right.

Like having a, you can only have boys now.

Well, I'm having another gender reveal.

I read the, I put on Patreon, but I haven't said it here.

I'm pregnant, by the way.

That I knew.

I figured.

Seriously, but

thank you.

Only on Patreon have I said the gender, but I'll say it here now exclusive.

Boy.

Wow.

Yeah.

Wow.

So very exciting.

That is so exciting.

So girl mom, forget girl boss.

You're a girl mom.

Boy mom.

Boy mom, boy mom.

Sorry.

Right.

Yeah.

That is, what is it like?

I love it.

Growing up with all sisters.

It was a complete, I never expected this.

And I just kind of assumed I would always have girls because that's all I know.

Like I said, I have no guy friends.

Like, I don't know other.

My husband.

I've never met a man.

I've never met a guy.

So to have like my first boy, the first having

for finding out I was having a boy for my first, that was like the most shocking one.

And then immediately, like, I became obsessed.

And then when I got pregnant again, I really wanted a boy.

Yes.

So that they could be close, they're close in age and that they could be brothers.

And I just loved having like a same sex sibling.

And so for this one, this was the first time I did not have a preference.

Cause if it was another boy, like iconic, I'm obsessed.

Yeah.

But if it was a girl, like

so excited.

So I looked at like my girl.

But I'm so, I'm so thrilled.

Wow.

You have a lot of kids.

That's so, so exciting.

Thank you.

I love that.

Thank you.

They can't be queenies of the week yet, but do you ever do your kids as queenies?

No, no, it's usually more in the.

pop culture zygote like yeah what things that we've spoken about on the show so those are my queenies your queenie is hailey as well my queenie is haley i think she

yeah she just really came out on top similar to sydney sweeney i think she's just really good at being a celebrity and she's really good at giving the people what they want she like kind of engages in the drama and like a little bit i she did that vogue video where she so funny de neppo yeah was the perfume and she was reading like

oh the tincture from the witch she pulled out a tincture and she was like I take this every day.

My dad like took me to see a witch in the mountains when I was 12 years old.

And she said, if I took it every day, I would make a Canadian pop star fall in love with me.

Thanks, Dad.

I didn't see that part.

That's really, really funny.

Yes.

I love the way she's engaging with it.

And her vogue cover was already queenie behavior, even though Justin tried to like take a big, that was so insane.

That was so insane.

He, I was going to nominate him as my weenie of the week.

Oh, for that.

Okay.

Justin's your weenie of the week.

Yeah.

And so I think they balance each other out, the, the Haley and the Justin.

Yeah.

Sometimes you're, you're queenie and weenie.

It's same story, married to each other.

Yeah.

So it's net neutral.

The family's okay.

That's just like really a theme that's coming up of like like these successful women and these men who are sort of like not really flailing.

Yeah.

Failing.

I would argue a little bit that's what's happening with the Beckhams.

Which one?

With Nicola and Brooklyn.

Yeah, but it's not like she's any more.

It's not like she just like achieved success.

That's true.

But honestly, in three years, we're going to be talking about how Elf bought her cosmetic company for a billion dollars.

Nicola's.

Yes.

Yeah, I'd try what she's doing.

She has not unlocked her

full potential.

I agree.

That is, okay, so I don't know how this works.

This is my first time here.

Do we discuss more about the weenie?

Who's your weenie?

Now I kind of want to say Mark Anthony.

Oh, I love that.

Because that is so lame to do at someone's wedding, even if someone told you it was funny.

It's like, there's just minefields, I think, a lot in a wedding and like the groom's speeches and like people think things are funny that they're not.

Or like you see those videos of husbands smashing cake into women's face after they've gotten like a full beat.

And it's like, don't do that.

Yeah.

Like it's not about you.

And like, you don't want to cause a bride to run out of the room crying.

Yeah.

So I think he's my weenie of the week.

That's such a good one.

And I agree.

Like, I can, sometimes people could be like, something comes off wrong or they didn't mean it.

They, but to say the most beautiful

woman in the room

and it's not the bride, like, are you dumb?

Yeah.

Are you dumb?

Maybe he is.

Maybe he is.

Maybe he's the weenie.

That is a true, that's true weenie behavior.

I love that from 20, three years late, but it's never too late.

It's never too late to be the weenie of the week.

No one's safe.

No one.

No.

We're going to dig it up.

So thank you so much, Susie.

It's been a pleasure getting to know you and co-hosting with you.

And I appreciate it so much.

Where can everyone follow?

I know you're like not on Instagram, but where can people follow you and keep up with your work?

This is so fun.

On X, I'm at Snoozy Weiss.

Okay.

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You, my friend.

I know it's my first podcast.

I'm out here acting like Oprah.

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We have hats.

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Toasters free pressers, I think there's a lot of synergy.

I think the elk of a free presser girly, like if you like things other than the Irandeal, that you would like the toast if you want like something fun and lighthearted.

And for toasters who want to learn more about the Iran deal, I think they would like the free press.

Or they want to learn, oh, look at that.

Yeah, I think there's definitely like the Venn diagram, I think, is like really.

It's a circle.

No, but it's not a circle.

It's not, but it's like perfectly like third, third, third, you know?

Yes.

That's what I think.

And I think there's a little bit for for everyone, I think, in both of our media properties.

I think so too.

I think this is the crossover of the century for free thinkers everywhere.

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I literally look so cute.

Thank you so much for joining us.

This has been a blast.

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