Pregnant Podcasting in Person: Monday, May 12th, 2025

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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast, and happy Monday because Jackson Claude is coming to town.

Jackson Claude is coming town.

Jackson Claude is coming to

Yeah, that's right.

The beautiful sounds are brought to you by Jackson Claude coming to town.

Jax is in town.

Hey, Jax, how you dern?

I'm dern good.

So happy to be here for our big week.

This is such a big week.

Let me tell you why.

Please.

Shall I count the reasons?

Shall I count the ways?

Yes.

One, Jackson Claude is coming to town.

We're together.

Always so fun.

The aforementioned coming to town, yeah.

And I'm here, by the way.

I came.

She did.

Two, it is our last week together before we break for matte mat leave.

Matt leave for maternity leave.

So it's like last week of shows.

Kind of high stakes for content, do you feel?

No, I feel like it's just going to pour out of us because

it's like the last week of school.

Like we're breaking for summer.

It's the best week ever because it's like you almost miss it.

Yeah.

You even miss school because you know it's going away.

It does.

That's a really good comparison.

It does feel like, at least for me, I woke up.

I'm like, oh man, it's my last week before I'm literally like not working.

And it went, I'm going to summer school.

And I have that like,

by the way, Jackie's going to summer school.

It's a perfect comparison.

Like Where it's like, I'm going to be working harder than ever to get my degree online.

Even though she's not going to be able to do that,

I'm working tonight.

Like it starts now.

Yeah, she's taking her classes online.

But the thing about Jackie is that she's getting her degree on her own time.

Like you really just don't have to worry about her.

Right.

So I'm going to really miss regular school where all my friends are here.

And like, I'm not the only one going to summer school.

Do you think you're going to come back with like summer school friends?

Definitely.

I think I'm going to come back from your matte leave with new friends because I'm meeting a lot of new people, some familiar faces, but a lot of new people.

I'm really going to be putting myself out there, but everyone that I've booked like is someone that I actually want to know or like, like want to talk to, I'm interested in, follow.

So I'm excited to meet them, but it's going to be a very social few weeks for me.

So I have something to tell you.

Wait, that was the second reason why.

It's exciting.

What's the third?

It's our first time podcasting pregnant together.

Oh my god.

Publicly.

I forgot we are.

Podcasting pregnant together publicly.

We have to do a photo shoot after this.

Like we'll just touch bellies.

Well, you know what we have to do?

Aren't we on a a billboard this week?

We're always on a billboard.

We are.

We kind of, we haven't really talked about the fact that we actually achieved a major milestone career-wise.

In the podcasting space.

We are getting our.

Something that, like, chip or no chip, they couldn't take away from us.

Don't take away from us.

That

we are receiving kind of like our Hollywood walk of fame moment.

Yeah.

Our Spotify creator milestone.

We reached the bronze tier of hitting 100 million streams on Spotify, which we're really proud of.

On Spotify alone.

It doesn't include YouTube.

It doesn't include Apple podcasts where most of you listen.

So one of our tiny, one of our minority platforms.

million.

100 million.

See these classes?

100 million.

They're giving us a billboard.

They're giving us a plaque.

We actually asked for two and they said no, but like they're working on it.

I think they said like you could pay for the second.

No, no, no.

YouTube.

You can't even pay.

When we got our YouTube plaque, we were like, oh, we're like a duo.

Can we get two?

They're like, yeah, you just have to pay.

It was $150.

I'm like, sure.

Spotify was like, you get one.

And so we were like arguing like where it should go, but we pushed back.

We were like, please.

We can't be the first people to have this issue.

No, I would hope if you have a podcast, like you do have a co-host because it makes things a lot better and easier.

Yeah.

So we are on a billboard.

So maybe we'll take you, we'll do our maternity shoot in Times Square.

That's what I'm thinking.

Love Inspired.

So publicly podcasting pregnant.

Publicly podcasting pregnant.

I have something to tell you.

Okay.

I've done out something really crazy like two days ago.

And I'm like, you know what?

I'm going to save.

I wanted to get Jackie's reaction on, okay, I'm like hyping it up a little too much.

You're becoming a Brunson boy?

No.

Everything you tell me is like the Brunson boy.

No, it has, it literally actually has to do with me, which is so rare.

I never get to talk about it myself.

So I haven't watched the newest episode of Paul American because I'm saving it.

Right.

And there's another episode that comes up this week.

I believe it's the finale.

So me and Ben were like, we'll watch them together.

We'll really enjoy it.

And people were like, Claudia, you're really going to like this episode because I guess Nina's doing like birth prep and she has like a healer come.

She does like a lot of like things that I've been talking about.

So my friend Beatrice sends me a clip and I'm like, okay, do you watch Paul American?

She's like, no, watch the clip.

So I watched the clip and Beatrice was the one who recommended my healer to me.

Nina Ogdell is using my healer.

Yiska.

Remember I was talking about Yiska?

She's on this episode of Paul American.

What was the healing that you did?

She, okay, healing is like not the right word I use.

She's a doula.

So she was recommended to me to do like mock sibustion.

She does acupuncture, prenatal massage, stretching.

She did acupuncture?

No.

She was the one who came to my house.

Remember, I said I felt amazing.

She did all these like stretches and like this birth prep.

And you slept good.

And I slept really good.

Yeah.

She was amazing.

And I was like, so lucky to get one appointment with her.

Now I know why she's so in demand.

And I was like, they flew her to Puerto Rico, but I i forgot that they're nesting in new york they're nesting in new york so i was like oh man not me working with the like healer to the stars the premier healer when i saw yesca i was like that's my girl that is so crazy i know and i was like i was wondering why people were saying like clutta you're gonna love it and i was like oh because like we're doing the same thing but people didn't even realize that's my healer yeah yiska Well, we'll have to watch.

We still have to make our big plans.

Yes.

Our big-American plans.

Actually, I have a good idea for our big watch party.

Should we get like a projector?

My hotel has a theater, and I think you can like rent it out.

Oh, Oh, that's a great idea.

We're so funny.

Let's do it.

And we also need to watch Molly Mae is back on Amazon.

I didn't watch the first part.

Oh, well, I haven't watched the second part.

I haven't watched any TV.

I don't even know like what kind of TV I have, like what kind of capabilities my TV has in my hotel.

But I will watch eventually, but we do have a story about her today.

So I'll just, I'll table all Molly Mae chatter.

I watched.

the documentary about Karen Reed.

I know you don't know Karen Reed.

How do you know?

I know that there's a documentary about Karen Reid.

And I just want to say thank you to Max documentary for like making it so concise.

And like now I'm fully caught up.

It's this really crazy, crazy story.

And like, obviously, Karen Reed is being framed, you know, she's being framed by the Manhattan and Manhattan, Massachusetts Police Department.

It's so corrupt over there.

But I haven't seen, and like, obviously I'm on Karen Reed talk.

There's like a free Karen Reed movement, FKR.

The documentary, she sits, she's in the documentary.

So it's like her story.

So I'm only like seeing her side.

So obviously I believe it.

And it's super compelling.

How long to die in the cold?

Like you guys, they totally did that shit.

But like, I would like to see something compelling from the other side just to like see what, like, people who believe Karen Reed is on trial for murder and she did it.

Like, what do you believe?

Because everything I've seen, it's Karen Reed propaganda, but like it's compelling.

They framed her.

Got it.

It's just, it's, it's actually really crazy, except

it's very social media heavy.

So like there's this huge movement and the reason everyone's talking about it is because this one blogger blew it up and it actually ended up saving Karen's life.

Y'all damn it.

And I just feel like the elk of the free Karen Reed movement, like the people, like I find them annoying.

Like now I'm on free Karen Reed talk and I see all the people standing outside the courtroom and it's like, oh, I don't know if I want to be on your guys's side.

Like you guys seem like annoying.

Even though if I, if I, if I had to guess,

Karen Reed did not kill John O'Keefe.

Who did?

I have no fucking idea.

I have no fucking idea.

You know who has less of a clue?

Me.

You.

Yeah.

I do think you would enjoy.

It's also, it's gotten quite political, you know, because he's a police officer.

So it's taken the town of Canton, Massachusetts, like by storm.

And I'm just long for the ride now.

I'm like involved in the TikToks.

I'm like, it's, I don't even know how my phone knew that I watched it.

But the second I opened my phone, like, it's kind of nice because I wanted to like dive deep more into it.

But how do they know?

Like, I literally watched a documentary.

They heard it.

I was texting Ryan.

And then the next thing I know, every single thing on my TikTok is Karen Ree.

They literally heard it on your phone.

So she basically like is being accused of killing her boyfriend.

And they can't even figure out how the boyfriend died.

Like they say it was vehicular manslaughter or whatever, but it's like his wounds are incredibly inconsistent with somebody who got hit by a car.

So it's like they don't even know how he died.

They're just like charging her because they feel like it.

Everybody involved is like a cop or an FBI agent.

So like they're all covering it up.

They've all like, you know, sold their houses.

destroyed their cell phones, whatever.

They go through this terrible trial in the documentary, 10 weeks, and it's a mistrial.

So she's on trial again right now.

Like seriously, who has the time?

It's like so involved.

We went through the whole thing just for that jury to be hung.

So it's like, obviously the jury.

Hung jury means like we're done here yeah

hung jury means like we can't come to a decision and it's a mistrial no no i think they're two separate things okay so it was mistrial one of them like means

well that's that okay no mistrial mistrial and so they if the state wants to pursue you again they can and of course they did but it's like obviously the jury heard something because i watched the whole trial oh my god this bitch is innocent and even sorry maybe she's not innocent you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she killed this man so you have to let her go obviously the jury heard something i didn't hear because they were like all hung up like they spent five days.

They couldn't figure it out.

So what am I missing?

What do you mean?

Like it sounds like they feel like you.

No, but they couldn't come to a decision.

Like they were really split down the middle.

So like half the people believed what the state was saying.

Well,

it's just powerful.

Or maybe the documentary was a little biased.

Oh, maybe that too.

But I think like most people come in when someone's like being prosecuted by the state and they like think that they did that, you know?

Yeah, I guess to prove them to be innocent, which is harder.

Yeah, if I'm on a jury and they're like, this guy's accused of murder, I'm like, okay, prove to me that he did it.

Right.

Right.

He did it until you can show me that he didn't.

And so I think it's like turn, you have 12 yeses at the start.

And then to even get half to change is actually big.

The thing about Karen is like, the reason I was having a hard time at the beginning of the documentary, like believing her, is like, she's cutting cut, like nuts.

Like she, it's a drunk nut.

Not a crime.

By the way, Jackie, like, not a crime.

I never want to.

I never want to drink again after watching this documentary.

All these, they're like grown-ass people.

Half of them are cops.

They get blackout and they're like driving around small town buses.

And I'm like, you guys are just admitting to drinking and driving.

I know that's like not the issue here, but I'm like, okay, I guess we're all just drinking and driving.

And nobody can remember anything.

Karen doesn't even remember.

So at first, the first couple of days, she thought she might have accidentally hit him and he fell over, knocked his head, and died in the snow.

But the evidence doesn't really support you.

Reminding me of one lone jur.

What was that?

One lone jur.

One.

Yes.

12th Man Award.

What's it called?

Clinton Eastwood.

We just watched it.

Just watch it.

You know what it's on my content list?

Hold on.

The One Man Jur.

No, 12th.

12 Only Men.

12 Night.

12 Angry Men.

12 Angry Men is the classic.

This is the jury

of juries.

What the heck is it?

What's the actor's name?

I can't even remember.

Clint Eastwood Juryman.

Clint Eastwood Jury Movie.

Juror number two.

Juror number two.

Juror number two.

So they can't even remember.

Yeah.

And by the way, I never want to drink again.

Like, if these people just had, like, three less drinks, we would know what went down.

Like, and so Karen, but she refuses to be made ashamed.

Like, she has this crazy night.

She'd scream at her boyfriend.

She calls him 55 times, leaving the craziest voicemails because he's taking too long to come back out of the house.

Like, she's, but she refuses to be made embarrassed.

And she, like, literally woke up.

She's like, I'm not fucking guilty.

She like bought, I have some questions about her finances.

She got like flew in Kevin Spacey's lawyer.

And she's definitely like a well-off woman.

Like, she worked in like, she had like a good job in like finance or whatever, but like.

Kevin Spacey's lawyer.

Now he's like famous and he said that he's not charging her because like it's like this huge case.

But like I did wonder how she'd be like, maybe it's like good for his image considering he lost the last one, even though he didn't lose it.

it.

He wanted Kevin Spacey.

That's why she reached out to him.

They let him off.

Like, no, and they were comparing what they did in Karen Reed's trial to Kevin Spacey, which was like forensic accounting or whatever.

Whatever.

All I have to say is, like, Karen Reed is not taking this lying down, but she was like, she didn't cry once in the documentary, which I found really crazy.

I guess it has been two years since her boyfriend died and was her boyfriend of two years.

And like, while that is sad, I guess she's more mad that like she's being framed.

Yeah.

But she's, and she, she doesn't care to act.

She's like, I know how they want me to act in the courtroom.

Like, I'm pissed.

Like, I'm pissed.

I was just like, why aren't you crying?

You know?

But I'm new here.

I'm new here.

Okay.

Well, I'm new.

Happy that you're a part of that.

Yeah.

You know, I heard everyone talking about it.

I'm like, no, I've seen everyone talking about it.

I want to be a part of something, especially like, you know, on my last big week.

Yeah.

I got to go out with a bang.

Everyone's talking about Karen Reed.

I am.

Turdy Reed.

Turtle Reid.

Turtle Lou Murda Reed.

Turtle Lou Murda.

And so, by the way, the mistrial, the second one is actively going on now.

It's like day eight.

So it's like in the news.

That's why you're hearing about it.

It's in the news every day.

Got it.

Got it.

I don't think she did that yet, but I don't really know who did.

did well that's not your job to find out no thank god because i won't be able to figure out and who killed nicole brown simps yeah

yeah

because allegedly according to oj he's still

oj so and he got off and that's why he doesn't like to go to la he doesn't he said he doesn't want to run into the guy who accidentally did it that's what's okay who killed kaylee anthony if it wasn't casey you know right i mean

it was facey it was totally casey Right, but it's like, if they didn't have to figure out who killed Nicole Brown, you know, that's not my problem.

They don't have to figure out who killed John.

I would also let you know, like, how did John die?

Like, they still can't even figure it out.

He had, like, dog bites on his arm.

It was so twisted.

Like, whatever.

So don't drink.

Also, I feel like, by the way, that is the takeaway.

Don't drink.

And also, all these cops drink and drive.

Okay.

Like, don't ever pull me over for drinking and driving.

Yeah.

Look in the mirror.

Yeah.

So that was a journey I went on last night.

Okay, well, that's a fun one.

We had such a fun day yesterday.

We were in the burbs.

Oh, happy Mother's Day to everyone.

For Mother's Day.

Oh, my gosh.

That's so limbo day for me, you know?

Oh, yeah.

I wasn't, I wasn't being celebrated per se.

No, but you weren't joining in on the festivities.

Yeah.

It was just, it was a little like, you know, like...

You weren't irrelevant.

I feel like I was edging a little bit.

I wasn't irrelevant to the day, but I wasn't like one of the core members of the day.

No, but you were really like on both sides of the fence.

Yeah.

It was really nice.

I did.

I know we had that conversation about Father's Day and how like we're going to ignore Father's Day.

And I actually felt after yesterday, like even more compelled.

Yes, I will be ignoring Father's Day 2025.

It's just not right.

I just know, first of all, I endorse that decision.

decision i know but i just know you're not gonna do that and i just know you're such a softy i need to remember how you're gonna be like ben has been so amazing like of course it's father's day he's like you're just gonna i'm not gonna get him a watch like

he's so soft i know but i need to remember this feeling like i just felt like a little passed over you know yeah i need to remember that feeling

And apply that to Ben on the family.

I'm sure that it feels passed over.

Correct.

I understand.

Well, I've just done something so foolish, which was that I just survived allergy season in Florida, like turned spring like two months ago or whatever, sneezing my way through it.

Arrived here for allergy season, literally sneezing all day.

The bottom half of my face had no makeup on it.

By the end of the day, I'm like trying to like not blow my nose because like I don't want to take all my makeup off.

So I'm experiencing allergy season twice.

And both times I'm not taking Zyrtec, but I now I might.

Oh, oh, can you take Zyrtec pregnant?

Dr.

Fox said I could, but like just less is better.

Yeah.

But if I get to a place of real misery, I would.

I, but the thing is, by the end, usually I would take a Zyrtec at the end of the day so that it can work itself overnight.

But by the end of the day, when I'm inside and I've showered, I'm feeling much better.

It's not until then I emerge, like literally the minute I stepped outside this morning, sneeze.

This is the time of year where I feel so grateful.

Like I don't have this problem.

So miserable.

No, and it affects like people like stay home from work because of it.

Like I don't have this problem.

I could walk out into like the most pollinated shit.

And I'm like, oh yeah, give me that shit.

It smells so good.

I could snort pollen.

I'd be like, fuck yeah.

I don't have this problem.

And Ben does and you do.

And I see how it affects you.

And honestly, like, I'm not grateful enough, like, to the Lord for not giving me this fucking problem.

No, and I feel like pollen, what people talk about climate change.

What about pollen change?

I feel like pollen's changing.

It levels through the roof.

Every year, it's like worse and worse.

You can literally see it.

Like, you'll be driving and it's like, there's just white powder.

I'm assuming it's pollen.

I think it's beautiful, but I can see how somebody who has allergies would find it

like to be a nuisance.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I think pollen counts are higher than ever.

Damn.

From like my experience.

So if you're struggling out there, just know I did it twice.

Damn.

Without a Zyrtec.

Some of us are just suffering, you know?

Yeah.

No, and some people are enjoying the beautiful weather.

Spring.

So true.

I can't tell.

I'm like, should we go for a walk?

Spring is in the air.

Should we go to the park?

I can walk indoors.

I treadmill.

I walk an indoor park.

Like the outdoors are just a misery.

But of course, I literally, we were outside all day yesterday.

How gorgeous is it indoors?

It's gorgeous.

Like, and the boys just like were running.

Like, we had so much fun.

So like, we're staying outside.

My mom was going to be sneezing and peeing the whole time.

Sneezing and peeing.

Yeah.

Sneezing and peeing.

Don't forget.

I didn't think about that.

I didn't think about that, how frequently you're sneezing.

Cause I peeed my pants yesterday.

Thank God we had just gotten home.

And thank God I was wearing a dress because it didn't even touch my dress.

I just like peed down my leg.

It was like a big sneeze.

It was probably the first time I sneezed all day because I don't have allergies.

I didn't even think about the pregnant girlies who have allergies.

Who are just sneezing, sneezing.

And it's like, I can't empty my bladder fast enough.

Bring a diaper.

The pad season.

Pad season, but is it enough?

Yeah.

yeah yeah yeah super like it's just a little it's not like what you experience i'm not peeing my pants every time i sneeze just a little tinkle no i actually like peed i didn't pee my pants i wasn't wearing pants so you sneeze in the third trimester on a full bladder like you're asking for trouble yeah no and i was like being a martyr because i got home and like i wanted to put all my stuff i really had to pee but i do this thing where i'm like let me get like all my stuff like put away my bag put away put my pajamas on before i go to the bathroom and pee it's like i have to earn the pee i don't know why um and so i'm standing in ben's closet like i was cleaning up after him putting his shirt away and i literally peed on the floor.

Yeah, you can't, you have to empty your bladder.

Yeah.

And it's like, it goes away after pregnancy.

Like, I don't, when I'm not pregnant, I don't sneeze

and pee.

Um, but it's definitely inconvenient.

Allergy season twice pregnant.

1,000%.

On the third.

You know, who actually suffers from allergies?

Romeo.

Oh, Romeo.

He's on a well.

He's on, he actually does really suffer from allergies, so it affects his daily walks.

But he is on like a wellness regimen.

As you guys know, he is a brand ambassador for Wagwell.

They have allergy and itch chews.

Chicken flavor.

he loves them um i need an allergy and itch chew would you eat a chicken flavored one no okay okay

i meant to ask you are you first i'm hungry i'm already hungry yeah yeah let's discuss options i mean i also i also need a pedicure like i've gotten to the point where my toes hurt you know oh oh i thought you were gonna say i've gotten to the point where um like your

your toes hurt when you wear socks no they were hurting like when i was wearing my flats yesterday because like they're pinched because they're just way too long and that's when i know it's been

a six months and it's your body letting you know, yeah.

So, um, they're really bad.

Oh my god, but maybe we could like get lunch and pedties.

I don't know if I have time for that.

I have you have to be careful with pedicures now, you know, why?

Because there's apparently like a tendon in your ankle that's like an old wife's tail.

If you like push it, it will cause you to go into labor.

Okay, well, it's called pressure points, yes, and that's where my acupuncture was.

Pressure point for a breach baby is on your pinky toe.

There's a lot of like um uterine, not uterine, uteral pressure points.

Women's health podcast by your feet, by the way.

Wait, okay.

Two things.

One, I can't do pedicure and lunch because I have a major like project.

Like I'm doing a bunch of home projects this week.

And one of them is today.

I'm having my carpets, couches, everything like professionally steamed and cleaned.

So I can't.

But two, I can't believe we've been sitting here for this long.

And we're literally the worst businesswoman ever.

We announce a merch launch today.

Yeah, we're launching merch on Wednesday.

Super cute.

Spring collections.

The t-shirts that everybody loves that we made like a year ago, we came out.

I know we dropped like one every collection for the last year.

This time we said,

hold my small t-shirts we're dropping three oversized t-shirts they're so cute we've got garji party we've got the toasty with the um what would you say like the vignette on the back montage map of toastiness

and then girly girly you were wearing it the other day i wear it i've worn it for like six months i didn't even care by the way if you're pregnant postpartum those shirts will save your life we're launching three of them we've got new crew necks we've got new sweatshirts we have phone cases for the first time in a while.

We've got hats.

So it's all over on our Instagram.

It's Wednesday, 10 a.m.

Eastern Time at choptoesmerch.com.

That'll be exciting.

Yeah.

And it's still the same old, well, the same new format of there is stock.

You will get it.

It will ship immediately.

And then if things sell out, we'll put them up for pre-order.

Sorry about that.

We forgot to like literally do our business.

We were just having so much fun being pregnant podcasting in person.

But that's also part of our business.

So I just feel like we've been businessing all day.

What kind of business are y'all in?

Pregnant podcasting.

Literally, we finally have an answer for what kind of business we're in.

Pregnant podcasting in person.

In person.

Yeah.

Very exciting.

But what were we just talking about?

Oh, lunch, pedicure.

Allergies.

Oh, yeah.

Pedicures.

Oh, so you can't get a pedicure.

Oh, so you have to be careful.

Well, I was planning on getting one more.

I haven't gotten a lot of pedicures in this pregnancy because, like, who am I trying to impress?

And I was planning on getting one more.

Like, maybe once my maternity leave starts and like, I have nothing to do except wait around for the baby to come.

Um,

that I would get my final pedicure then.

Got it.

You can't wait another day on Forage.

Okay, so we're on different pedicure schedules.

It's an emergency pedicure.

It's a rescue pedicure.

It's a national emergency.

Is that from our video?

It's from our spritz commercial.

Yeah.

I love to quote myself.

Of course.

Claudia.

That's beautiful.

That's beautiful.

Y'all?

Yeah.

Claudia, that's beautiful, y'all.

How are the stories?

I know like we are here to talk about ourselves, but we are also here to talk about others.

The stories are fine.

Like nothing major.

happened over the weekend, but like little bits and bobs.

Taylor was spotted.

That was pretty big.

Yeah, that's a story.

I have a lot of thoughts.

Oh, wow.

Like we are like, cause I just saw it like when I was looking for stories this morning that she's like literally at the Smith in Philly, like type restaurant.

Uh-huh.

And that she has to do those things now because she's like in an ordinary family.

So that's funny.

My thought was like, I honestly can't believe she spent Mother's Day with Donna Kelsey.

I know her mother was there too, but it felt really crazy.

Yes.

That's crazy that her mother was there and that they went to a restaurant.

Yeah, we'll talk about it.

Okay, we'll talk about it.

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Our first story, the aforementioned Mother's Day of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, they resurfaced in Philadelphia for a Mother's Day outing with his family at Tallulah's Garden restaurant in Philadelphia.

So Travis, Taylor, Jason, Kylie, Donna, Andrea.

I saw something that said Andrea was there.

I don't see Andrea here, but you are.

By the way, the pictures are crap.

Like, you know, I see Taylor.

Okay, but we see Taylor and Travis.

He's talking like a new hairstyle.

I think we see the back of Kylie.

Is that who that is?

She looks like a mother breastfeeding or something.

I only see this

and this.

Oh, okay.

I saw one other picture.

I do believe what I read was that Donna was there.

And of course, by the way, excuse me, yeah, Andrea.

Taylor would never like forsake her own mother on Mother's Day.

No matter how much she wants to land the guy.

It's so true.

Like Like, no one's more important to Taylor than her mom.

I just did think this was kind of crazy.

Like,

as you get into a relationship and then become a mother yourself, like, Mother's Day becomes more complicated, right?

It's like, well, are we celebrating me being a mom or my mom?

Like, it's so, and so Taylor's not even there yet.

And they're already like compromising.

You know, I guess we'll all have Mother's Day together.

And that's nice.

I was just shocked that it wasn't.

And then by that logic, where's Kylie's mom?

Correct.

Maybe she was there too.

We just wouldn't recognize that.

By that logic, if Kylie has other siblings, siblings, they should be there too.

And the mom is with them.

Their spouses are partners.

Right, where was Austin Swift?

I don't know.

What's crazier about this to me is that they went to a restaurant.

I just feel like when Taylor's in the family, like, we can't just go to Tallulah's anymore.

Not only that, Mother's Day, like, obviously going out to a restaurant is totally fine.

But like, it's really the day where you have like a barbecue at like a house.

No, it would be perfectly appropriate to stay.

Stay in.

And I think most people opt to like cook big, extravagant.

I have everyone out over at the house and it's, cause it's May and it's beautiful.

And we sit on the back of the patio.

like yeah I it's like a I think the less popular thing is to go out am I right I think it's equal but I'm just saying because of Taylor you can't just go to a restaurant yeah and just but I'm sure she doesn't want them to change their family ways for her she just wants to blend right in and I guess because they're in Philly they're

The logical place they didn't want to host.

Right.

The logical place to have the brunch would be at Jason and Kylie's, but she's obviously busy, you know, in her postpartum era.

Donna could have hosted.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's definitely, it's a choice, but maybe that's just what they do.

I just find that seeing them in this setting is really shocking.

I've never been to Tallulah's, but to me, it's the Elk of the Smith.

Yeah, no.

And also something about like her outfit was so regular.

Have you been to Tallulah's?

No.

Why would the fuck would I have been to Tallulah's?

You've traveled the country.

I have, but no, I haven't eaten at Tallulah's.

I do find the whole thing very regular of them.

And her outfit was like also really regular.

And she didn't look like a movie star pop star Glam Azad.

She just looked like a girl.

Yeah, going out to the bottom.

Which I guess is good, you know, to keep keep a low pro

but she didn't no keep a low pro she didn't even though i think people pretty much left them alone yeah i'm sure they had plenty security yeah i don't think philly's like one of those towns i just feel like there's not a restaurant big enough maybe in las vegas they make restaurants big enough to accommodate taylor and travis yeah they're just big energies energies they're big physically like they're just they have big teams They've got a lot going on.

They can't be like just like squeezing between tables.

Hey, sorry, pardon me.

No, they can't with like little chairs.

Travis needs a big chair.

I do want to thank you.

I know at one point in time, this was your water bottle, but it's mine now.

Cool.

Cool.

Thanks.

It's really delicious.

I've really been loving water.

It does hit different when you're pregnant.

It's so good.

It's really necessary to the whole experience.

It is.

Yeah.

And I thought I would like have to drink water begrudgingly, like knowing I would need to up my, but the way I crave it.

Yeah, baby loves water.

Yeah, so does mama.

Mama loves water.

Yeah, it's also a good postpartum.

I think you'll still enjoy.

Yeah, loving my hydro drug.

Like I'm loving the whole experience.

Yeah.

I've started like bringing my hydro drug places with me.

Like, I take it in the car, I take it, bring it to the studio some days.

Like, not today, obviously.

That's why I co-opted yours, but it's nice.

Like, loving water.

Yeah, it's cool.

And it's like a later in pregnancy thing because in the beginning, I was still avoiding it, like trying to do crystal light to light drink.

And then I found out crystal light has aspartame.

Like, it's really, it's so good.

Highly recommend.

Check it out.

Do you have a code?

Yeah, it's territory.

Well, I like to put a little flavor electrolytes in my water, and I do have a code and it's shacky.

Congratulations.

And it doesn't have aspartame.

Yeah, like I'm really looking forward to like going back to not giving a fuck about aspartame.

Like I'm, I've obviously given up on soda a little bit.

Like at some,

some point to remember the women who do crack when they're pregnant.

And thing, I'm honestly grateful to them.

I'm giving up on soda in the sense of worrying about it or drinking it.

Worrying about it.

Like in the very beginning, I was really good.

And then I let myself do like one, once a week.

And then it was once every couple of days.

And now it's one a day.

Like when we go to lunch, I'm having a soda.

Yeah, that's how I feel.

Like when I'm out and it calls for a soda, like I'm having a soda.

And I think we all, like, as women need to thank the women who do crack when they're pregnant because that's like the litmus.

That's perspective.

Yeah.

It's like, oh my God, should I take this Tylenol?

It's like, please, there are women doing crack when they're pregnant.

So Claudia, don't take the Tylenol.

I don't know what we would do without the women who didn't do who did who do crack.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're kind of like necessary to the maternal ecosystem.

Yeah.

And obviously, I'm not endorsing you do crack when you're pregnant.

I'm just saying the fact that there are a few people who do.

Thanks.

It makes me feel better.

I'm happy for you.

About like sleeping on my back, which sorry, like I'm doing.

Like I'm doing it.

I couldn't stop if I tried.

I just like wake up on my back.

So if something was really wrong, the baby will wake up.

If you just wake up on your back, that's, that's fine.

Okay.

Are you ready for our next story?

Aforementioned, Molly Mae reveals she and Tommy are back together nine months after their breakup.

So the next three episodes of Molly Mae behind it all premiered on Amazon.

The first came out in January.

Now there's three more and it's chronicling the time from like New Year's to now.

Okay.

Where they've gotten back together, which everyone suspected.

And we now know why they did break up.

So we knew that they were working on things.

They were spotted together New Year's Eve.

And we more so know that they, we don't really know like 100% why they broke up, but we know that it wasn't infidelity.

It was his drinking and his like his issues.

And his like dark passenger.

Like yeah, dark passenger.

Two different people.

When he's good Tommy, like they're in the best relationship.

When he's bad Tommy, it's a misery.

And bad Tommy was becoming more and more present in their lives.

So she had to cut him off until he got sober.

That's something you can come back from.

Like the infidelity some people can't work through.

So, um, no, but it's like, I don't think anybody's like, it's like you're only the worst partner ever when you're drinking.

That means if you don't drink, we can have a happy relationship.

Yeah.

So I think that's where they're at right now.

Yeah.

Um, but and we've seen like bits and bobs, as they would say, of Molly posting about Tommy.

Obviously, she posted happy birthday from Bammy's POV, but she has yet to like post anything romantic of the two of them or say we're back together until it's in the show she says that they are back together.

Can I ask you a question as like a hardcore stan?

Do you feel like a little bit of the magic is gone?

Yeah, for sure, but I feel like it also makes me appreciate them more as a couple.

Like they're just more real.

Like not that you have to be like, we have to know like your, like your dirty underwear in order for like us to feel like we can relate to you.

But like now I do feel like

it's not just like Molly and Tommy and who are they and what are they about?

And it's just like a magical little like they're just like real people They're going through real things and I do think sometimes when you go through something like this It does make you stronger.

So I think they've been tested.

And I think if they can stick together through this, like they'll be incredibly strong.

Because everything was so great for them coming off of Lava Island.

Yeah, no, everybody loves them.

Even though they didn't win.

Everyone didn't even love them.

They didn't even win their season.

No, but like in culture, like when everybody loves your relationship, I feel like we talked about that a lot with like Paige and Craig.

Like when everybody loves you, like makes it so fun.

You're like, yeah, let's be together.

It's a great endorsement of your relationship.

And I feel like even if you're feeling like having a moment of doubt, it's like, well, everybody loves loves this.

Like everyone can't be wrong.

It keeps the train on the tracks a little bit longer than it might have.

I think so.

But it also does add like a lot of pressures.

When you do break up, like you're kind of hesitant to like see the red flags.

So I'm happy they're back together.

And I'm not like saying anything.

I'm just like, I don't know, it doesn't hit as hard.

It's like a little bit.

Yeah.

And it's great that they're so real, but like, who wants to realize?

It's definitely been like knocked down a peg, but knocked to reality a little bit.

Yeah, but I think that's like good, especially their business is relatability.

Like she's an influencer.

She said, like, I just, I feel like um

yeah it's like you feel closer to them as a couple not just like oh they're shining on a pedestal and they're perfect they're not yeah I don't like die for them in the way that you do that's just because you haven't watched a season yet no but I'm also like

just as a spectator I'm like okay they back to that's great like that's great but it's not like

And I feel like it's been nine months since they broke up.

I feel like that's a good length of time for someone to get sober.

Like, let's get serious.

We're not jumping back into things.

I think molly's being really prudent about everything and i just hope that tommy can stay on the path i mean it would benefit him in all aspects of his life as an athlete like it's not helpful for you to drink as a father as a partner you know it's good just lay off the sauce trust me watch the karen read documentary you won't want to drink ever again yeah yeah apparently he just like won another fight too yeah so did jake paul i saw with who i don't know it was like you know one of like we're not in the fighting scene so like it meant nothing to us i think we're in the fighting scene we're in like the mainstream fighting scene.

And all like the celebrities go to big fights.

It wasn't one of those.

What other fights does he do?

He has to do like, you know, fights to stay with like fighters.

Like, yeah, in the league.

Yeah.

Okay.

In the league.

Our next story.

Okay.

Bravo's flagship show, Roni, is going off the air.

The network hopes to revive it, but Real Houses of New York City is going off the air.

Page 6 has learned with no firm plans for its return.

The show, which we know premiered in 2008, has consistently been one of the most beloved, prestigious, and buzzed about in the in bravo schedule um

and now it is no more but it doesn't seem as if there's any great expectation that it'll be back anytime soon yeah midsider said we're trying to figure it out we want to figure it out we think there's still life in it uh they warned that other shows have sat on ice for years before it being revived like real houses of miami that's a good yeah you know hopeful thing but i just feel really strongly oddly enough that it's really it's much harder to make a successful reality show in new york than in other cities like when you think about the bravo shows that are set in New York City like right now they have that new one next gen

looks horrible like let's be real like truly horrible has anyone watched it did it premiere yet I feel like it's coming out in New York I don't think it has premiered yet but I just don't think it's gonna be like what

what it

I just don't think it's gonna be what it should or could be just because the cast isn't like giving it's not giving and that's the thing with New York it's like when it comes to like who you can cast you're kind of left with two parties of people like people who are extremely wealthy and successful and rich and they don't want to be on reality TV And then New York is just full of people who want to be on reality TV, who have aspirations of being extremely wealthy.

And that's like, it gives way to like thirsty, desperate, and just like uninteresting people.

So I think it makes casting really, really hard for like a Bravo franchise.

And they haven't done a good job up until this point.

Even the women that they found for Roni, for original Roni, like they turned out to be amazing, but like.

They were just regular women, you know?

I don't think it has to do with New York because they are able to do it in LA where it's the same sort of people, people like super wealthy in Hollywood.

Yeah, but there are a lot of wealthy, famous people who want to be on reality TV in LA.

But there are a lot that don't.

Yeah, but I think, I don't think there are people like that in New York, honestly.

I think that there are.

There's more like old money, like hush-hush.

No, but there's like new, like younger people with, there's a lot of money and there are a lot of people who want to be on TV.

So would you say like the people that they cast for this new generation of Rony?

Like those are like.

No, I wouldn't say.

That's not who I would have casted.

Who would you have cast?

I mean, like, I only, I have a limited knowledge of like New York City people, people who are already established.

Like, if you wanted to go into a friend group and have a bunch of unknowns, like, you, you could find that.

Yes.

That's people's jobs to find that.

Yes.

But I think that like Bravo casting is not what it was because I think they're looking for different things now than they were in 2008 when they're like, we just want to make a great show.

So what are they looking for now?

Like

for a housewife.

Like that's different than like a Ramona

because like what was it about Ramona, you know?

Yeah, that was like, they were just women.

They were just moms.

No, but they were also all personality.

I don't think they're going by personality these days.

And when they do pick someone for personality, it's like a crazy person who would say or do anything.

Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that like at one point, all the women on the show were cast as

all the women who were cast were both wives and mothers because it was the real housewives.

And then it just became a show of like socialites.

Like being married wasn't a pre-regional.

A lot of the people on the new show are wives and mothers.

And like, I

don't feel like them, not that I watch, but like them sharing their motherhood is like not really the thing we're watching for.

But I do think having a partner like just makes things interesting.

While also having like a couple single people, but I do think going into a friend group where people are already know each other and are friends.

Like I do think the most recent Roney was just like far-flung people.

It's put them all together.

They were not connected.

I think they were filming for a while before they even started filming for the show because they needed to meet each other.

No, the Roni reboot was like overall like an enormous failure.

But there, Rony was in a place that like other franchises found themselves in.

OC kind of got itself out of it, weirdly, by like leaning into the past, but also the future.

Jury's still out on New Jersey.

Like, what's going to happen there?

Atlanta has really revived itself.

They're having one of their best seasons yet.

So, like, it can be done.

I just would love to know, like, where do, what do we blame this on?

You know, like, I'm trying to

like, it's New York.

Yeah.

Like, it should be the easiest.

It should be the easiest.

And even to cast the new generation, like I'm sorry, like pitting it all on Jenna Lyons for like name recognition.

And she was literally hands down the worst housewife.

I was going to say Jenna Lyons was probably like the thing that they were most excited, like the biggest.

Jaggie, she was the worst housewife.

But I feel like even when it was announced, it was like, this just doesn't feel like it's going to be amazing.

Like she's not the Elk of Housewife.

She's so serious.

Yeah.

And then if it turned out she was like silly and reality T, like that would have been interesting.

But she's not.

She's just like a serious, boring person.

Right.

No.

And she went on the show to like promote her.

That's the other thing.

Like people are so strategic now, especially someone like Jenneline, who has a lot to lose.

She's not going to be acting crazy.

So she's here promoting like her false lashes, like whatever.

Like that's so boring to me.

Like if you, I'm sorry, if you have a small business, like you should not be allowed on Real Housewives.

Like it's boring.

No, I agree.

And if you have like social media,

if you're like some sort of influencer, I actually don't think you should be on the show.

Again, you have a lot.

to lose or to gain.

And I just, I feel like you know how to like position yourself.

They just need people with like wacky personalities that are so themselves that they can't pretend to be someone else when they come on TV.

Like everyone else is just like pretty sound of mind.

They're like, I know what people want to hear.

I don't want to step in it, but also not like wacky people who are just going to lie.

Like what they did to this franchise, honestly, it's disgraceful.

Like the fact that Roni is dead.

It's the first franchise to die.

I know, but I feel like from the moment they were going down these paths, like from like, this has been so clear.

Like nothing about this has been surprising.

You know, everybody like lying to themselves.

Like Roni knew is actually like every casting, every season that came out.

It's like, this is not happening.

This is not happening.

And it's actually, what's so shocking is that they've admitted it.

Yeah, I'm just looking to place blame.

Like, this should never have happened.

It should never have happened.

And I don't think it's fair to say that New York can't do it.

If you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

I'm just pointing out that I do believe it's harder to cast in New York than in other cities.

If you're looking for wealthy people.

I just want to say, like, according to what we've seen, that's proving your theory.

However, it shouldn't be that way.

And I don't think it has to be that way.

I think they're missing something they're missing something is what i think it's it never should have happened

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Our next story, a little family news.

Family news.

Billy Ray Cyrus says he and his family are close to full healing.

And Miley is speaking out as well.

So Miley posted to Instagram.

I guess there was.

Billy posted first.

Billy posted first, like a photo with Smiley.

And people were like, oh, this is old or funny.

Miley Miley.

You mean that devil skank Miley?

And we were like, whoa.

Right.

Is this a throwback?

Is this a call for help?

Is this current?

It was confusing.

And then rumors were a swirling that Tish unfollowed Miley.

Right, because they were together.

It's like, oh, Miley's now back with the dad.

Tish has unfollowed Miley in, you know, retribution.

So Miley took

Miley took to Instagram to clear up a few things.

Which actually is kind of crazy.

Like.

I feel like Miley doesn't like make statements.

Do you know what I mean?

I feel like she doesn't make statements either, but this is like so personal and people were really getting the details all mixed up.

The iPad has died.

But my students are not going to be able to do it.

Nope.

I got everything backed up on my phone because my iPad, you know, it was being the family iPad all the time.

I was like, wow, we're on the fifth story.

She's putting her iPad away.

She's done for the day.

Night work here is.

What kind of business y'all in?

I'm not going to tell you what Miley's said.

No, what did she say?

So she said that her mom is like a little, you know, funny with social media, doesn't know how to use her phone and accidentally must have unfollowed her.

So there's nothing there.

I think she really wanted to clear it up the.

rumors that she was beefing with her mom because I think that's like so untrue and probably was hurting Tish, especially if people think that she's going over to Billy Ray's side.

She also said that she is working on things with her dad.

Good.

That like things are getting better and the family is trying to heal and move forward.

I never for one second thought that like Miley was betraying Trish.

Like I think through all of this, Miley has actually been like the most steadfast Trish.

Yeah.

So I didn't think that.

And I can't.

I can't live my life based on people claiming celebrities unfollowing other celebrities.

It almost always turns out to be not true.

Like they were never following them in the first place.

Or it's like someone deactivated their account.

Right.

Like I can't live my my life by those standards because it's too volatile.

So I never thought Miley, that's not the interesting part here.

And I'm glad she cleared that up for people who aren't as smart as me.

The interesting part was like, how do you come back from that devil's kink, Miley?

I think they're coming back from it.

You know, that's family.

And I want that.

And it's been years.

And I have to say, I think we can attribute this to one Elizabeth Hurley.

Oh, yeah.

You think the timing is like.

I think she's been a positive influence in his life.

And like she came in and she sees that he's like not speaking with his family.

like a good woman is gonna mend those bridges that's true actually and i think like i i she's being who i hope she would be like when she started dating billie way i was like oh so she's crazy too right right now i'm like oh wait maybe she's making him less crazy you know it takes like a good strong woman yeah make a man normal and like i know that like i don't know fire rose and i just i know things were bad it seemed volatile but i feel like that's when things were really bad with his children and everything like it wasn't a good relationship for his overall family it's hard to how would you feel if your father was marrying someone your own age like it's hard to is she very she's super young fire rose like it's hard to get on board with that but then you see your dad in a relationship with like an age appropriate woman think of all the issues they had with Billy Ray like the age of his fire rose was like not the issue no no but it definitely is not like a comfortable

like something you want to endorse.

But Elizabeth Hurley, a successful age-appropriate woman, you know what?

That's a sign of a sound of man, a sound of mind man.

And maybe, yeah, maybe we can start talking again.

I think she's like healing Billy Ray.

Well, he also needs help.

That's the other thing.

Well, maybe she's helping him.

No, but like, sorry, professional help.

Maybe she helped him get help.

The brother from Metro Station.

What's his name?

Brandy?

Brandy Wine.

What's his name?

Bruce?

Trace.

Brayson.

Trace.

Trace.

Brayson.

There is a Brayson.

Oh, okay.

It was, but I think it was Trace.

Brayson, Trace.

Brayson?

One of the brothers.

Oh, there is a Trace.

Yeah, he's from Metro Station.

Because

they were reunited for Brayson's 31st birthday.

But Trace has been the one actively, like really outspokenly saying, dad, like on social media, like you need help.

So, and then, of course, we can't talk about the inauguration.

That's sort of like really not fitting in.

Right.

No timeline.

At least like Devil's King Miley was years ago.

But like they can work on their relationship all they want.

But like if Billy is still doing like what he did at the inauguration, he's like in that headspace, you can't make progress with a person like like that.

I don't think he's in that headspace.

I don't think Elizabeth Hurley would date that person.

So I hope not.

I think that she,

just based on every, especially with like the family coming together, I'm going to believe that she's being a really positive influence, not him being the negative influence on her, that she's lifting him up.

And

he is better than he was in January.

Here's hoping.

Fingers crossed.

Yeah.

So that would be really nice.

It would.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Is it about that devil skank Miley?

I can't stop saying that.

No, but she also did have her new song come out.

Did you hear it?

More to lose?

I haven't because...

Because her team stinks?

Yeah, like Miley's new era.

If you're a big Miley fan and you actively seek it out, like, of course you can find it.

But like, it hasn't come across my desk in an organic way.

And that's not a good sign.

Cause I, most of the time, unless you're like one of my faves, Luke Homes Taylor, like, I don't actively seek out your music.

So if it makes its way to me, that means it's popular.

I actually have not even heard one bar of the first one.

Yeah.

Everything about this album rollout is giving janky okay i'm so glad you agree they announced the album so long ago right now we still only have two songs it's like a visual album it's beyond bad badly done but the song is beautiful it's like um it's a ballad so it's like climby and used to be youngie used to be youngie okay so it's really beautiful it's called more to love and i know that like her press team stinks but i'm gonna do my job and and i'll put it out there promote miley and use my platform to support miley

um our fifth and final story is a little music news um prince harry sweetly kisses Megan Markle.

Oh my God, I don't know how we've done the entire show without talking about this.

How was this story number five?

This should have been story number five.

Because it was a few days ago.

And

I had to talk about the things that we teased at the top.

So I moved some things around.

And I also, I never know, I'm sad.

I never know how you're going to react when you bring them up.

The hat?

Okay.

They went to the Beyoncé concert.

That's a story.

Harry and Megan went to the Beyonce concert and she posted a carousel and she gave us a lot of information in that carousel.

I don't know if we would have even known that they were there without this carousel.

Like the last time she went to the last Beyonce Renaissance show, and we only know that because the person in the suite next to them took a million videos.

Like, thank you, sir.

But this time, yeah, they were like better protected.

And we only know because she posted a carousel.

She posted a bunch of pictures with a caption about last night.

Thank you at Beyonce and team for an amazing concert and a very fun date night.

All love.

So I want to start with the caption, actually, because the

need to acknowledge Beyonce and team, it's like, we get it.

Beyonce's your friend.

She gave you this bee for free.

Like, we get it.

But the contents of the carousel were so fascinating to me because I've actually never seen two people like wearing weirder things to a concert in my life.

Like her, like early 2000s, Hervé Legier dress.

And I get that it's denim.

And I think that was like her way of being cowboy.

Got it.

It didn't read for me.

And she actually is always so well dressed.

It's like one of, I think one of even people who dislike her can always acknowledge like her style is really Pargy.

I was so confused by this dress, but then I saw the hat.

You guys,

so it's like they're both cosplaying southern cowboy.

Like Like they've never seen a cowboy before.

Because yeah, you'd think, oh, it's a cowboy concert.

Let me wear a hat.

But he's wearing more of like a Coachella hat than a Southern cowboy hat.

Kimo Sabe.

Not even, because Kimo Sabe is like very Western.

No, but then I just think his choice, like the choices he made at Kimo Sabe made it this.

It's a wide rim.

It's like a sun hat.

It's like a fedora.

But it's an oversized fedora.

And by the way, then she posted a picture of the inside of his hat because he definitely got it made at like one of those hats.

It's like an $800 hat.

Yeah, where you can like get little customers.

And they can like brand it with like metal hot iron raw.

Right.

So there's a bunch of different icons and text.

So one, it says Archie Lily, my love.

Cute.

Next is the California flag.

Oh, okay.

California pride.

To the left of that seems to be the continent of Africa.

Yeah, you know, like him and his mom like love doing like their philanthropic work in Africa.

Okay.

Next to that is a British flag.

So interesting.

I only saw the kids' names.

I thought the rest was like a tag.

I didn't even look.

And then next to that is an American flag.

So he's all over the map, literally.

He's all over the map.

And then she wrote, my husband's hat gets a twirl.

A twirl?

Like, we're taking it for a spin, I think.

Okay.

Social media is not her forte.

And I do think it looks like a toilet, actually, but you just showed me the photo.

It does on an airplane.

Right, right.

Social media is not Megan's strong suit.

And I actually think it would really behoove her brand and just overall image if she brought in somebody to help with content and captions.

I'm not sure by now that she's not doing her, that she is doing her own social media.

Yes, and I think it's like a reflection of her kind of weird, but we've always said she has like a cringe, quirky personality.

So like, you know, a celebrity would know, like, you don't have to say, like, be thing's Beyonce and team.

Like, it's just, she needs like a social media manager.

I do think it would help her a lot.

Especially if she wants to be an influencer.

Right.

The content is not there and the captions are just like cringe.

And there's a way to make it still seem like it's coming from Megan.

Yeah.

But with some sort of filter.

Everyone does that.

I just couldn't, I really could not get over what I was watching.

His hat was so crazy.

And of course, the rumors are swirling that because he's covering his hat head, he's finally taken the plunge and gotten hair plugs because obviously that's been something I think people have wanted for him for a long time.

I do think it's far too late for him or William to get hair plugs.

Like you're bald now, so we would know.

They say Harry Styles got hair plugs.

That would be the perfect way to do it because like his hairline started receding.

Yeah, but it's not maybe he upped the rogue.

Not enough for us to notice.

And now it'll never be an issue because he got the plugs.

So Harry and William are like so far gone.

Like we need to stop actually demanding that they do get them because it would be far too obvious.

And I think in general, I know I feel like people, you know, they make these attacks personal.

They like make it about the hair when they just hate the man.

Yeah.

But I do think in general, like not every man who's losing his hair needs to get hair plugs.

Like I...

Interesting.

I'm fine with people losing their hair.

I'm fine with people having.

a baldness and being bald.

Well, I think there are like, if you're going to be bald, like fully bald, it's a kind of a handsome look if you can pull it off.

I'm not bothered by that.

I do think it's important to keep some men ugly, like 100%.

But

the men who like do nothing about it, like they don't shave their head, they don't wear hats, they don't fix, and they just have like, you know, the ring, like the Larry David ring.

It's like, could you care less?

I don't know.

It's like, that's just what's happened to them.

I know, but like, what if a woman just like let everything happen to her?

Like, we don't.

We do Botox.

We color our hair.

I do, but if a woman didn't want to do all that and just wanted to let

these

chips fall where they

were going to respect for sure.

I'm gonna yell at her, go to turkey, you know, but she's kind of in the minority.

Whereas, in like a man who does something about it is in the minority.

So, do you feel like men who don't do anything about it are being like disrespectful by not caring about their looks?

Not disrespectful, but I'm like, My God, you don't even care, yeah.

But then he wears a hat, so he obviously cares.

You don't get a hat like that if you don't care about how you look.

Okay, when it comes to the case of the hat versus the head, I prefer the head.

Like, the hat is so ugly, show me your bald head.

Yeah, it was just really crazy.

Like, you're two steps from the throne, Jackie.

Have some self-respect.

The hat.

And people were cracking me up being like, the H is for hat.

Cause she calls him H.

Finally, we got down to the party.

Yeah,

I

actually don't know what I would have done with my weekend if he didn't wear the hat.

So I'm actually really grateful that he did.

And one thing about me, like, I fucking hate Prince Harry.

Like, he is my number one nemesis.

There's so much discourse around Megan.

And to me, it's like, we need to be talking about the...

You allow yourself to not participate by channeling it all towards Harry.

We need to really actually focus a lot of like the hate and the criticism that we give to Megan onto Harry.

I think he's largely to blame for like the entire situation.

I also think he's the biggest loser on the planet.

Like that statement he gave, he's having like a lot of trouble right now in the UK because he lost his case.

He wants royal

security paid for by the taxpayers.

The taxpayers, they give him like a decent level of security, but not what like William and Charlie get because you're literally not a royal anymore.

Sure.

Charlie.

So he's just having like a big losery week.

And I've been on like the, like I've seen the loser in Harry and I'm ready for the world to see what I see.

So we need to channel like a lot of our criticisms of Megan and just like people are obsessed with Megan, everything she does.

Personally, I can hold space for two things.

No, to me, Harry has, is, and always will be the problem.

And the hat just proves my point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You guys aren't ready for that conversation yet.

And I feel like it's really crazy that she showed us the inside.

You know, because I feel like she just like stirs up all the old stuff, like America, Britain, California.

Where's his coat of arms?

Where's the Sussex coat of arms?

right.

I don't know.

I just feel like, but at the same time, like, Harry is a former Brit living in California.

He can like what he likes, you know?

I don't know.

I know, but like, oh my god, now we're giving space for Harry.

I take it back.

No, he can like what he likes.

No, he can't.

He can't.

I'm just saying, I felt like he was really highlighting the fact that he's like made this choice, you know?

Right.

Right.

But the thing is, like, we know, you know, he should have, like, if, well, he,

if he posted the hat, like other things that I would have wanted to see.

I don't know, maybe like a corgi, like just like things about Harry.

Right.

Before this.

Maybe that's Africa.

Maybe.

But I don't know.

Sussex.

Sus.

Seriously, sus.

It's a sus in Sussex.

Ain't that the truth?

Those are good stories.

Literally, I forgot about the hat.

Like the way, like, I feel invigorated.

Time matches your outfit.

You should ask him to borrow it.

You should wear this hat to the party tonight.

Yeah.

I mean, it's literally a woman's hat.

Thank you for proving my point.

Well, that's our show.

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Nothing's regular when we're together, pregnant, podcasting in person.

Nothing's regular about the toast ever.

No, but especially this week.

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