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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show.

The fast-five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the soap.

The soap.

Welcome to the

soap, you dirty girls.

You dirty little whores.

Welcome back to the soap.

Welcome back to the toast.

I was stuttering because what day is it?

Thursday.

Thursday.

Oh, wow.

I mean, well-earned.

Latter half LH.

LH levels are high.

LH.

LH levels are are high

we are coming to you live from a party day in new york city and of course florida

party day per us

party day per huge i have so many things i need to talk about this morning oh wow so you want a dilly dolly today now not dilly dolly

well now that dear toasters is behind us and we do have summer house recap which the tv recap obviously is going to go off without a hitch don't worry i do feel a little bit more relaxed than yesterday i also think we satiated i don't know if you saw the commenters like they the dtk

put down their pitchforks.

Now,

no, no, the GTQ put down their pitchforks and the people who do not like your eh pick those pitchforks right back up.

Do you have something to say to your haters?

I do.

I do.

I hear those complaints and all I have to say is.

Great response.

Thanks.

Like, you guys, everything's a phase with me.

If you don't like this one, just wait for the next one.

Like, it's kind of like that by now.

It's a wave.

You just got to ride it out, you guys.

Like, eh, like, and like, I didn't even realize how much i was saying it now i'm so aware of it so hopefully i don't start saying it more but like it's funny you'll be okay everyone you guys she might start saying it more i don't want to threaten you but just roll with it you know like imagine like everything that came out of your mouth someone was like i don't like that one i don't like that one and i don't like that one no as i have special talkers free to be me like are you guys crazy It's like that song, Free to Be Me.

It's like that song.

So that's actually not what I wanted to talk about, but it did come up nicely.

No, the DTQ has been satiated until Tuesday.

Like every Tuesday is Groundhog Stay with them.

And like all the goodwill we've earned will mean nothing on Tuesday if we don't hit them with another DT.

Three.

Three.

That's not what I wanted to talk about.

The first thing I wanted to talk about was I got Cloud Popcorn.

Cloud with a K.

Of course.

It was delivered and I tasted it.

We talked a lot about extensively, I would say, about Chloe Kardashian's new popcorn protein company.

And I was a little skeptical.

I was.

You guys know me.

And I wanted to see, first of all, so important how it tastes.

I got three flavors.

They come in three flavors, but I only tried the white cheddar, which I had heard was the best.

And I also went, I'm going to open three bags of popcorn.

That's just wasted.

They'll all go stale.

They'll all go stale.

They also sent one to Ben.

Ben, it arrived.

Ben was like, oh, this is for me.

I'm like,

no, it's not.

He saw like food.

He's like, he thinks he's like the food influencer in the house.

I'm like, no, that's mine.

But there were two.

There were two.

Yeah, one was his.

Let me tell you what's delicious.

Actually, delicious.

And I'm not in a place right now where like I'm needing protein snacks.

Like that's just,

that's, that's just another turdies time.

This is not current turdy.

Current turdy needs like mid-fat sacks.

I had a cupcake for dinner last night.

But I could see a time in my life where I would be munching on cloud popcorn and it was very good.

Okay, good.

I'm waiting for my delivery.

It should be any day now.

We got delayed here on the East Coast.

Like everyone out west is eating their clouds, like gorging on it.

PR went out like a second wave in New York.

I heard that New York was delayed.

I actually did hear that from an influencer.

I mean from an insider.

And I'm actually, let me tell you who told me that.

Okay.

I know who it is.

So just.

You know who it is?

How do you know?

Yeah.

Because I just have a feeling, does her name start with an A?

No.

Oh, okay.

It was very good.

I'm excited for you to try it.

Maybe you try a different flavor, even though it's like widely.

I'm eating all three like tonight.

Oh, tonight.

If it arrives.

Like, I'm going to turn on what's Paul American.

New episode drops.

Sat down with my cloud popcorn in my prime.

Jackie,

are we going to start updating the weekly schedule to include Friday's Paul American recap?

I just want to say, in all of my love for Paul American, and I've been a weekly watcher, I rarely actually watch it on Thursday nights.

I'm not watching it tonight.

It's something I enjoy so much.

Ben enjoys it.

We need to save it for like a Saturday.

It's like, it's a treat.

And I have to pack.

I have so much to do before I come to New York to see this world.

Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

Jax is coming to NYC.

Oh, that's exciting.

I also thought you were coming a day earlier.

So I've been like preparing all week.

I'm like, oh my God, she's coming.

And it turns out you're coming the day after.

So I like my whole weekend just got fucked up.

So I'm sorry, but we will have a lot of fun when I do arrive.

Yeah, we will.

And that's a threat.

Yeah.

So I have a lot to do.

So Paul American, like, might be my treat for a job well done.

Okay, I can also, we can watch it together.

You want to come over on Sunday, Zach and Ben.

Like, we did literally have the whole whole family.

Yeah, let's do it.

They, they would love it.

You would love it.

Um, speaking of Zach and Ben, more specifically, Ben, huge night last night for the Brunson boys.

Not only did they win, and I like, I've been pretty hard on basketball because I'm really into sports.

Like I'm very sporty.

Basketball is definitely the most boring one.

Like it's seriously not a cool sport.

They just run up and run down and run up and run down.

And they like are embarrassing themselves.

Like they get like a little bit of a shove and they fall on the floor.

They call it like a flop or whatever.

You make yourself look so dramatically injured so that you get the foul and it's like oh okay is this macbeth or basketball like they're being so dramatic yeah it actually gives me the ick like i saw lebron do it last week that one went viral yeah and it's really icky lebron is also like known it's it's a good skill to have you're getting more points because you're getting the free throws but like when you have to do what about your manhood yeah right when you have to do the art of flip-flopping like it's actually disgusting looking and so these are like big bacho men and i just see that i'm like, get up.

I feel like the state players don't do it.

Only the ones who are

married in a long-term relationship, they know their wife has seen them through worse.

But like, if you're trying to get a lady, like, get up, take it on the chin.

It's humiliating.

So I, I found basketball to be like really boring recently, but it was a fabulous game.

And what I'm learning is like in the playoffs, so you play like two games at home, two games away, and you're expected to win your home games.

So when you lose one, it's like a really big deal.

The Celtics now lost both, which is really crazy because they're just like a better team.

They're higher ranked.

So Ben was freaking, I was actually like really into it last night.

The Brunson boys were popping the fuck off.

And it was kind of a thrill.

I'm not going to lie.

And I was being such an active participant in my husband's life.

Is he going to the games at MSG?

Yes, I told him to go this weekend because you'll be in town to babysit me.

Even though that was when I thought you were coming a day earlier.

So like I did like prematurely tell Ben he could go, I'll figure it out.

But with you in town for the next couple of weeks and like obviously when you come to town, like Ben doesn't exist.

Right.

Um, and it's like, I have my nephews, like I have a lot of responsibilities.

Uncle Ben.

Like, unless he wants to be an uncle, like, husband duties, gone.

Correct.

Brother-in-law, gone.

If you love something, set them free.

So I told him he could go to the next two games, but he is, you know, every time I look over at his phone, he's either in the Brunson boys chat or on StubHub.

It's like, he's like, you have to check every 30 seconds.

You never know.

Yeah.

I'm sure it'll work out for him.

Those things do work out for Ben.

For Ben.

And Ben alone.

So it was a thrill.

Although there was the third thing I wanted to talk about, a little bit of a dent in our evening, because Ben and I did discover, we think we're pretty sure Romeo has cancer.

Now that's obviously you guys are pretty sure that every dog has cancer.

You've just

convinced me Bruno has cancer.

I do think Bruno has cancer, but let me just say that.

And that was over a year ago when you made your prognosis.

And I just want to be clear.

I'm still jumping on the bed.

I just want to be clear.

From the first time that Theo started acting weird till the death, like it was over a year.

We couldn't figure out what was wrong with him.

So it starts out like these little weird things that Bruno was doing.

And last night, Romeo was doing.

So me and Ben were freaking because this whole Theo thing started.

He wouldn't jump up on the bed.

He was like afraid of our bed.

And then he would go and hide in our bathroom.

We were like, oh, he's having some behavioral issues.

And they thought it was arthritis.

It was like a long journey to figure out that he was actually just dying of cancer.

Last night, Romeo was like sleeping on the floor.

Okay, like, what are you?

And then hiding.

No, it's not.

Romeo's not a dog.

Romeo's not a dog.

And then he was

hiding in the bathroom.

So me and Ben were like, oh, he's cancer.

And we said to one another, like, if Romeo has cancer, we are never getting a dog, like ever again.

Like, cause it would be so, right?

Like.

It would be, it's us.

Like, we're killing these dogs.

Like, what is it?

No, I, that's not even why I think that's fair.

I just think like, you can't go through this again no and when you start your family like to have like it's just from upheaval and trauma yeah like you're not doing it again no so tbd on if his actual prognosis is cancer but like i'm telling you i'm sniffing some things out and it's giving cancer well

keep us posted i have some theories okay i would love to hear them i just We'll talk offline, you know, because they're not fully fleshed out.

So I don't want to sound like crazy.

Oh, Oh, okay.

You're a Romeo conspiracy theorist is what you're saying.

I think it's bigger than Romeo.

Oh, you think it's the elements?

You think New York City is making him sick?

Hmm.

Well, that wouldn't explain Bruno's cancer.

If we don't laugh, we'll cry.

Do you think Magnolia has cancer?

No.

That's okay.

That's what I said.

to Ben last night.

That's so funny that you said that.

Because I was like, what is it with like these dogs like that we get?

Like they all have cancer.

And Ben Ben was like, yeah, but we also get like the most special dogs.

I'm like, it's so true.

Magnolia is going to live forever.

Which was mean, but hysterical stuff.

Hystericals.

No, and you know what?

Magnolia will live forever.

Yeah.

Magnolia's got something, but it's not.

It's not what Theo and Rose

don't have.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's what's going on in my home.

What's going on in yours?

Well, I made a beautiful soup yesterday.

I saw a chunky soup.

It was very exciting.

I had literally had six bowls, like breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and it was exactly what I wanted.

Good, because it's the one you got.

Yeah, no, so I was very happy about it.

I made it from the magazine that I bought at the grocery store.

I always buy those magazines.

I'm only made a few.

I do wonder who buys those.

They're so fabulous.

They're not as heavy as a cookbook.

And they're not like...

typical magazines.

It's not like people in okay.

No, it's like all recipe.

They're made by allrecipes.com.

But there are also like celebrity ones too.

Oh, yeah, like Joanna Joanna Gaines, like, has a magazine.

No, this is just like a recipe magazine.

And whenever I see a good one, I pick it up and I add it to my cook.

Like, it's brilliant.

Archie.

So I really loved my soup.

I'm thinking, I mean, I have enough for today, but also I saw a pasta fajol that looks good.

Pasta Fajol.

Yeah.

Oh, speaking of pasta fajol, somebody I like didn't even talk about, but two nights ago, me and Ben started The Sopranos.

No, that's weird.

Yeah, I know.

I just like, I'm in this ever since Paul American ended and after Desperate Housewives, we've just kind of been untethered.

Yeah.

And I know that this era of my life coming up, I need a big chunky show.

Claudia, you know what you should watch?

It's not going to be a big chunky show.

I know what you're going to say.

Love Island?

No.

It's not a big chunky show, but Jake Paul.

Sure.

Sure.

But that's called, what's it called?

Untold.

Untold Jake Paul.

And you know that put me into labor.

Did it?

Well, I went into labor the night that I watched it.

Well, I kind of like want to go into labor, but like I also don't.

No, like, it's not really convenient for you, But just know like if you're trying like some people say like walk on the sidewalk eat spicy food have sex watch untold watch untold it's that disturbing

But you love him like you'll learn so much more about him.

Yes, but that doesn't solve my current issue Which is like I need a big chunky show to sink my teeth into for the next like month.

I thought the Sopranos would do it and we're actually enjoying it.

It's just moving very like tell me how I'm on episode two.

I've been watching for three days.

Like it's thick.

Might I suggest once again Royal Pains?

No, that's not, it's, it doesn't feel like like it's going to help me.

Okay.

So you're just being an A-sayer.

Sure, sure.

Yeah.

Let's, let's go with that.

The classic.

And then I went to the doctor yesterday

and I had lots of questions about my mucus plug.

He says it's possible that I've already lost it, but he knows that like I'm on the lookout for it.

You haven't?

I haven't, except like sometimes when I pee in the night, like I don't like study the bowl and maybe I flushed it.

I don't think you did.

I don't think I did either.

There was like the incident

like a week or two ago.

No, how many weeks ago was that?

Two or three?

Yeah, sounds right.

Where I actually called you with my toilet paper and, of course, sent a photo to Dr.

Fox.

He said that could have been it.

I don't think it was.

He also said it could still be coming.

I think it's coming.

Did you ask him what happens if you get a C-section and you haven't lost your mucus plug yet?

Like, no,

oh, can they fish it out for me?

Like, when will it come out?

Right.

If I do end up getting the C-section.

I didn't ask that.

I think I had something out.

We need to know.

It is something that we need to know, but I'm not living my life like I'm getting a C-section.

You know what I mean?

Oh, that's good.

Yeah, it's all very much up in the air right now.

Well, one day at a time.

Truly.

Truly.

What else can I tell you?

You seem so interested in everything that's going on in my life.

There's so much going on.

There's only one other thing that I'm interested in, and it's your adorable dress.

Oh, my God.

I'm so glad you asked, actually.

Like, are you a Victoria Seeker model?

It's a romper.

it's so cute.

Where is it from?

I'm so glad you asked.

I've hit a new low, obviously, in looking for maternity wears that won't break the bank.

That like are like these clothes are disposable because I

sweat in them.

I'm not gonna wear them in a month.

Correct.

I'll give you three guesses.

You're never gonna guess.

Um, give me a clue, just give me one clue so that I know which path to go down.

I bought it on my phone,

like on a website,

Timu.

You're so close.

Shein.

You're getting further away.

Fashion Nova?

No.

Okay, I'll tell you.

Amazon?

The TikTok shop.

Oh, I was never going to guess that.

No, you weren't.

The TikTok shop.

It came up and I was like, okay, I'm going to buy this romper.

And I bought two.

Now, not that making maternity clothes in sizes small through large.

Like, that's fucking crazy.

Why?

But there are people who are small who literally just got a belly and they would be a small.

I'm sorry.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a small.

You need need

where X now.

I need four X now.

Like especially this is supposed to be like oversized.

I thank God not to brag, like I did fit into the large.

It looks like it fits perfect.

It doesn't, but thank you.

Yeah, I bought something on the TikTok shop and honestly, 10 out of 10 experience.

This is actually the second thing I bought on the TikTok shop.

Well, what, you buy that humping saddle?

No, that was Instagram Reels.

I bought a t-shirt with Charlie from Twilight on it.

It was, you know, those like old school,

band t-shirts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've seen.

Yeah, I bought it for our mom because she's obsessed with Charlie from Twilight T-shirts.

So that's actually my, it's my second purchase.

I didn't want to be dishonest.

So you're two for two.

I'm two for two.

Sweet.

Even though I don't want to engage with the TikTok shop because I don't want TikTok to like think that it's working.

You need to clean your phone then.

They keep pushing the TikTok shop on us.

It's so annoying.

You need a separate account, like on your iPad.

Yeah, like you.

I don't even have one on my iPad anymore.

I remember what happened.

She's free.

I wonder if I do, actually.

I did, and then what happened?

Let's see.

I feel like we've all collectively given up and like trying to get Jackie to read.

Well, the real reason why, even if they could, if they sort out their privacy issues.

Their national security issues.

Yes.

Oh, there's my sister.

Oh, I have.

No, there's not.

Did you get logged out?

I got logged out.

So there wasn't my sister.

Okay.

But even if they sort out their privacy issues, two issues remain.

One, I really don't want to devote more time to my phone.

So like I would have to deal with that.

Two, I got logged out of my TikTok permanently.

Like my sickening TikTok where I have the handle, Jackie O like is connected to my college email that they disconnected.

So I can't get back into my TikTok.

If you guys were ever alive or present for the Jackie O TikTok era, it was so brief.

She was doing dances.

It was before she became a mom.

You lived in that apartment with Zach.

Like I remember I was in a couple of them.

You had a Bob.

No, I didn't.

No, you had like, you had short hair.

Shorter than I do now, but not a Bob.

Like shoulder length.

It was 2019, 2020.

No, no, no, it wasn't.

I'm sorry.

I wish it was.

Okay.

For the lore.

I do.

For the lore.

But if you were there, like, it was the 80s, you know?

It was.

It was amazing.

It was a time.

Like, she was crushing trends.

She was having fun.

And it's kind of fun.

She did go viral like twice.

I did.

It was kind of like.

perfect.

Like now if I came back to that, like literally five years have passed.

It's two different people.

Like here's scenario.

I just want to say, like, it's a piece of history.

If you got access to the account and posted a TikTok, like, I'm telling you, it would go viral.

Well, I'm going to work on my account.

I'm going to work.

I'm going to work on getting access to your account.

You can work on it.

And if you do, like, I will log into it on my iPad.

You know what?

I know a guy.

But I want you to know, like, I have genuinely tried.

Maybe now we're more connected.

Maybe there's more like TikTok reps that are looking to get Sodom and podcast hosts back on TikTok after they lost access.

When you reach a certain level of like TikTok fame, you get like a TikTok manager.

It's someone from TikTok who's like your point of contact.

They invite you to events.

They help you with any sort of tech issues.

And I have one.

I just like never reach out because I'm like such a low maintenance client.

But I'll be like, listen, we need to get this handled for my swirly sister.

Yeah.

But then I also have so much peace not being on TikTok.

Like you tell me about all this stuff, like all this drama that's going on with other people, like with us.

And it, I literally doesn't exist to me.

And it's a beautiful way to live.

And I don't want to like get into the gutters.

I really don't.

And I also sometimes feel like you'll send me a TikTok and I like really want to comment on it, but I can't.

And it's not unreal.

So I can't.

And like, I feel like I would start stuff in the comments.

We're ready.

That's not what I need in my life.

But like, I see some of these TikToks and I'm ready to rip them a new one.

Yes.

There's a lot of like brain dead folk on the platform.

Excuse me.

I've seized on it.

It's true.

Brain dead.

Who Who could use big sis guidance, you know, like some tough love from Jackie O.

No, I know, but then all the other commenters would like flood in and then I would be involved in all this drama.

Like I think I would get involved in too much drama, honestly.

And you know what?

It's kind of nice that whenever anyone's like looking for anything toasty on TikTok, they're forced just to engage with me.

So I'll stop pushing the issue.

I think it's good for my engagement.

I think so too.

And like you get to post all of our viral reels, clips.

Yeah, it's true.

It's true.

Make sure to follow me me on TikTok at Girl With No Job.

The toast is also on TikTok.

The Toast Pod.

The Toast Pod.

That's what I just got logged out of.

And make sure to follow me on Instagram, Jackie Ashre.

It's a fun time.

It's a fun time.

And you can also follow me on Instagram, too, if you wanted.

Yeah, yeah.

I feel like you're good on followers.

Yeah, no, I don't actually, I feel really good about where I'm at.

No, I don't.

I don't.

I'm good.

I'm good.

Follow Jackie.

Like, you have a lot of followers on Instagram.

Yeah.

I do.

Thank you for saying that.

I mean, I feel like we forget that sometimes.

I'm constantly forgetting.

Oh man.

Also, wait, something so funny milestone yesterday we always drive to the doctor so when we were driving home i was like ben you know our car seat just arrived maybe we should just like put it in the car you know and he was like okay ben like hates when i want to like do projects so of course if we're gonna put the car seat in we gotta clean out the car so i'm like on the side of the road huffing and puffing me and ben are fighting because i dropped these like spritz buckets and they cracked like

And I'm yelling at Ben because I'm like, this is how you treat our car.

Like, it was seriously like one of our lowest moments as a couple,

sweating,

fighting.

This girl comes out to me.

I love the toast.

I'm just like, oh my God, thank you so much.

And she was like, really, like, excited and like wanted to chat.

Like, she couldn't have found me in a lower moment, like in my marriage, in my personal life.

Like, oh, and there's trash.

everywhere all over.

Oh, and I had just spilled this huge bag of Romeo's food.

Our car was like such a dump.

And she's like asking me like, why should we take a picture?

I'm like, oh man, of course.

I'm seriously, like, I'm sweating.

I'm crying.

Ben is so mad at me i'm so mad at ben there's all over the street and we're trying to install a car seat like seriously that girl like she managed to find me at one of the lowest moments of my life do you have a dochi moment no i'm a delight oh okay that's good yeah did you do is dochi's response a story yes we are great segue following the story closely here great great segue at the toast and now without further ado da doo da do It is time for the fast five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story, you guys, the story we've been waiting for.

Timothy Chalamay holds Kylie Jenner close in a red carpet debut after two years of dating.

So no way has it been two years.

It's been almost two years of dating.

They attended the David D.

Donatello Awards in Rome on Wednesday, holding hands as they made their way to the step and repeat.

Once on the carpet, they struck various poses together.

He wrapped his arm around Kylie's waist as she held her hand up to touch.

It was just giving pregnancy announcement.

Oh, it was a little bit, but it was just giving like so comfortable.

They knew what they were going to do.

Yes.

I'm so thrilled that they've made their red carpet debut because I feel like the first one is the hardest.

And now it will be like a normal thing for them to walk red carpets.

And we'll have that so random, the David de Dehonatello awards.

So we thought it was going to be the Bet Gala.

We thought it was going to be the Oscars.

No, it's the David Di Donatello Awards.

I don't know how we missed that one.

But you're right.

It actually makes sense because there's weirdly been like a lot of pressure put on it.

I didn't realize it had been too young.

By me, that's why.

I put all the pressure on them.

I'm not going to be able to do it.

No, but the internet too.

The internet too was like waiting.

And so for it to be this like random award show is probably way less stakes.

And it's actually a really smart thing for them to do.

It is.

Like it's a great rehearsal for the next big one.

She looked insane.

She looked insane.

She is insane.

Just the way that she like carries herself.

Yeah.

And it's funny because when you watch Kardashians, like she's actually has a lot of insecurities.

But when I watch her out in the world, like this is the most confident woman in the world.

And to me, that makes her the most beautiful person on earth, even though she is also the most beautiful.

But plenty of girls are beautiful, but they walk around hunched, like scared.

Don't look at me.

And for the first time, maybe not the first time, but like I say this every time we see like a really cute video or photo of him, like he becomes way more attractive to me.

I've never been in the boat of people who like thought that he was an attractive person.

I've actually always been confused by him and his looks and his ability to pull these insanely beautiful women.

And watching Kylie just like leaned up against him and his like very casual hand around her hip.

Like it was giving smut, first of all, like those little details like from the female gaze that like only a woman writer could write.

It was giving that.

She looked fucking insane.

And I was like, oh, okay, he's cute.

Like he is cute.

I still don't think he's like the hottest man who ever lived, but

I just like when a woman lifts up a man, you know?

Yeah, I have to be honest.

I did not look at him.

I have not looked at him.

I'm looking at at like her and the figure behind her.

The side boob is insane.

The side, everything.

And I just want to say, she's a tall girl and she's wearing heels and standing up straight.

And he's taller than her, which I do.

He just reads small to me because he's skinny.

So seeing him next to her standing up like in full glamour makes him look like a big, tall, attractive man.

So I had a similar thought about his height, but it's you did say one thing incorrectly.

She is not standing up straight.

She is leaning a little bit.

I feel if she was standing up completely straight, she would be a little bit taller than him in heels.

No, but.

Okay, well, this picture where they're walking to the carpet holding hands, she is one step behind him and actually makes him look so tall.

She's 5'6.

He's 5'10.

She's 5'6?

Sure.

That's what Google says.

Shorty.

Shorty gets out.

How tall is Kendall?

I thought they were like the same height.

Kim is 5'2 ⁇ .

Kendall's 5'11.

Kendall is when I see Kardashians, one of them doesn't look five inches taller, like between Kylie and Kendall.

Let me just like look up a picture of them, but you never know if they're wearing heels.

Remember their clothing company, Kendall plus Kylie?

It was good stuff.

It was good stuff.

No, here's that met like in the Metal a couple years ago where they're both obviously wearing huge heels.

Kendall's like a good six inches taller.

Oh, wow.

Okay, well, Kylie just comes off as a tall person.

Tim Leith comes off as a small person.

But together, they fit.

They fit perfectly like a puzzle piece looking for its mate all this time they also sat together through the award show he won some award the whole thing was in italian win the david di tonatello award i don't know if it was that one specifically um but i'll have to double check they the whole thing was in italian and he like had to go up i don't know if it was like for a sketch or a skit or whatever but they said kaligene i saw and she just was like hi hi

um i just want to say i believe that the awards like everyone wins a david at the David Detonode because he wanted the David for cinematic excellence.

So the David is like the Oscar.

Yeah.

So they went to the Davids.

So when they're talking about it, they're like, we're going to the Davids.

Got it.

Got it.

It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well as the Oscars.

Not like David Protein.

No, it's just kind of clunky, the Davids.

They should have been sponsored by David Protein.

1,000%.

She looks gorgeous.

Step and repeat.

And what was so great about this is that we weren't expecting it, right?

We were all kind of coming down from the high.

I was thinking that maybe they were going to be together at the Met Gala or the

nick game.

I wasn't even looking.

I was off guard.

We weren't looking.

And I was in another time zone.

So it's noon here.

Yeah.

It was right after the toast.

And my girl is out.

I loved it.

I will love it.

I loved it.

I hope that they go to the MSG next.

Yeah.

I hope they never fade each other's side.

Do you think like the floodgates are just completely open now or they'll still continue to be quite measured in their public appearances?

I think measured.

It reminds me a lot of Kim and Pete when we were like, when are they going to walk the carpet together?

Even though they didn't date for nearly this long and they wound up doing some like weird carpet

gala in DC first.

That was their first

at White House Correspondent Center.

Was it White House correspondent?

I feel like it wasn't even that.

It was like the losery one, like not White House Correspondence, like White House Center.

It's like Fight Vows Vorrespondence.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it was like the same backdrop.

Yes, totally.

But it was again like a dry run.

And then they did the Met Gala.

But it's not like all of a sudden we started seeing them and then they got married and had children.

So I do think this is like a special treat for us and we shouldn't get used to it.

And I hope by me saying that that I'm completely wrong and that we get it all the time now.

It's possible.

We have been wrong before.

Praying.

Praying.

This was a great little Wednesday treat.

Thanks, Kylie.

Truly, she did it for the fans.

Like she knew how desperate we were.

Club Shalamay, not taking it well.

Club Shalamay had also like been on hiatus before the Met Gala, I think in anticipation that they would walk the carpet together.

And the second that they did it, Club Shalamay made her return to social media.

And for those who don't know know what Club Shalamay is, can you just give like the elevator pitch?

It's a Twitter account that has now become like synonymous with Timothy Chalamay.

Because it's just this older woman who's dedicated her like a fan club for Timothy Salamay.

Run by one woman.

One

mentally ill woman.

And up until recently, it was just like a Twitter account, like any other celebrity Twitter account that like updates you on the comings and goings of your favorite celebrity.

But people started to notice like a year ago, like some of the rhetoric,

the language being used was like really fucking crazy.

And so people became obsessed and she started to spiral when Kylie came into the picture.

She fucking hates him.

She won't even say her name.

It's giving Susie peppers from glee.

Of course, she's also in love with Timothy, right?

She would hate anyone who's with her man.

Yeah, she's a much older woman, which is just like funny to think about.

And so she went on hiatus.

She said, like, I'm taking time off.

And it was a couple of days before they met Gala.

And I think everybody was like, pretty much, it was like understood that Kylie and Timothy were going to be walking together.

So she thought she was being slick, but she just didn't want to have to address it.

And she, every time Kylie and him are spotted together, she writes like these really fucking crazy, subliminal tweets being like, a woman scorned is a woman from hell.

Like she's really nuts.

The second they didn't walk the Met Gala red card together, she said, I'll be returning tomorrow.

Then this thing happened.

I don't know what she, what ended up happening with Club Chalamet, but I'm genuinely wishing her the best.

Yeah, Boam thrilled for the rest of us.

Yeah, sad day for

happy day for us it's true so we'll take that win are you ready for our next story

dochi is responding to her deeper apper deber outburst at the mech gala and downplaying the situation so she posted a tick tock um

with a song what was the song oh the commodore is easy Easy like Sunday morning.

It's a trending song right now.

And the trend that goes along with it is like, uh,

where you're like, how do I explain it?

It's like

you're talking about like something crazy or like one of your bad traits being like god forbid a woman is in business you know like yeah and you're just like making excuses for like a crazy thing you did one time you know like god forbid a woman says

right god forbid a woman expresses herself so that's how you would do it yeah dochie said god forbid a girl needs more umbrellas

Then she posted saying, all jokes aside, this was such an overstimulating night, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.

This was a night we all dreamed of and my team killed it.

Umbrellas aside, crying emoji.

So it's a strategy, right?

Like when everybody's talking about this big scent al, you can either get in on the joke or pretend.

I feel like it reminds me a lot of,

and she's just now making news.

Lee Michelle is on

Therapus.

Yeah.

Talking about

her reading.

And remember when.

That whole thing was actively happening.

We kept saying on the toast, we were like, Leah Michelle, like running from this rumor makes everyone everyone think it's true.

Like, it's a better strategy to just lean in sometimes.

But that rumor was so harmless.

Like, it was harmless.

It's not the same.

It would have been discreditable to the Leah Michelle bullying rumors.

Right.

It's not the same.

So I feel like Dochi's like downplaying what actually happened.

And that's why this is not a good strategy.

Normally, I'm a big fan of this strategy.

Like, get in on the joke.

It, this too shall pass.

But

she's actually making it worse.

I agree.

I agree.

And I know my advice yesterday was to just like

lean into this, not be like, I'm so like pretend like you're not that person.

Cause like we saw who you are.

But I wouldn't have said to do this.

I, if she would have been better off ignoring it and posting like a long thing about the Met Gala, long to the point of boring all of us, which is a good strategy, about how she was so like happy to be there.

And it was such a special night.

And thank you to everyone.

And like, just literally glazed over it.

Yeah, because now it seems like, you know, we all heard the way you spoke to people.

And now it seems like that's something that like you're like,

yeah, it's, I, I'm, like, I would have been able to get over it, but now I'm like, okay, well, if you're going to talk about it, like, let's talk about it.

Yeah, I agree.

Not the greatest strategy.

And I don't think it's playing well either for other people.

Me neither.

Because I think the people who are like

in mad, like mad at her in earnest, like, this is really offensive.

Pissing them off.

And then.

Everyone else, it's just like, well, that's not really the way to handle things.

Right.

Like, I'm not mad at her.

No.

But I think this is a bad response.

Like, really bad response.

That's, that's how I feel.

Like, I'm not mad.

Like, so you're, so you're a diva.

Like, so you yell at people.

Okay, pop off.

Just like, make sure to not be so phony all the other times.

That's worth like going forward.

Just be yourself, you know?

100%.

That's really it.

But no, I'm not like mad.

No, me neither.

Big mad.

But yeah, not, I wouldn't have advised this.

But nobody listens to me.

Nobody listens to us.

Yeah, and that's the problem.

Therein lies the issue.

Are you ready for our next story?

Some major TV news because Bravo announces, literally, Bravo woke up yesterday and said, how can we make the swirly so happy?

Like, what would just make their life?

How can we cater to getting Jackie and Claudia back to being obsessed with Bravo?

How can we get Jackie and Claudia to do four Bravo recaps a week?

And this is what they put together.

Literally.

This is what they put together.

And I have to say, A plus.

A, no notes.

No notes.

They are introducing a new Real Housewives called Real Housewives of Long Island, Parjalish.

I always give a new franchise a shot.

I love a first season.

1,000%.

I think there have been so many cities where people have been begging.

Like, give us Nashville, give us Chicago.

And it's almost like there's too much pressure now.

And like, people have pre-cast those shows in their minds.

So for them to go totally rogue, Rhode Island, there is a lot of money on Rhode Island.

It's also like a very niche subculture.

It's a perfect selection.

With like a distinct style, a distinct way of life.

I think it'll be a lot.

And it's very trendy right now, like that coastal grad.

It's really smart.

I'm like, I'm excited.

Love.

Then they're doing wife swap with Real Housewives Edition, which I feel like in all of our discussions over the years, we have suggested a version of this.

This is just another, they've actually recently gotten very good at, and I think that was kind of the impetus behind a lot of the shows that they announced yesterday is that they have these like...

Well, maybe the shows themselves didn't work.

They have an abundance of like stars, right?

Like Rezafaraha and like they don't don't know what to do with these stars.

So we were just talking earlier in the week about Bravo's Love Hotel, like these sorts of quirky concepts when Sonia and Luann went to the small town.

But like, did anybody watch?

I can't, I don't know if you could

fix that.

It was good.

Oh my God, it was the funniest.

Like I was actually howling.

It was the funniest thing I'd ever watched.

People loved it.

It was like a peacock exclusive.

Ways to repurpose their own talent and their own shows and make it new again.

Exactly.

And so I think that

wife.

and there are so many husbands too, who everybody loves.

So that is actually like such a no-brainer.

Hysterical.

Then they're bringing back ladies of London.

Ladies of London.

I mean, that's another.

Caroline Stanberry.

Like, people love her.

And there's so much demand for her.

And there's no show for her.

Yeah.

Well, I just want to say they said it's going to be all new people, meaning like Caroline.

But I don't know.

I feel like Caroline might hear this and her and Sergio might move back to London.

And I think that's right.

Yeah.

So let's just wait and see.

But

the other, they actually had a lot of good people on the show, like Juliet and Marissa doesn't live there anymore.

The sandwich lady.

Sandwich.

Caprice.

I personally, Caprice was something on the first season.

She hated it.

Don't forget Caprice.

Sophie Sanberry.

I personally would love if they brought back some of the ladies, but you know what?

Like, I'm going to trust them.

They're bringing back Ladies of London.

That's enough for me.

I feel like I have been shouting into a void for so many years.

Like, Ladies of London was not recognized in its time.

It wasn't.

And they're bringing it back.

Like, oh my God, okay.

I'm fucking sat.

London is just a great city for, like, there's such wealthy, beautiful women there.

Like, we have to do something.

And then Shahs of Sunset, they're doing a spin-off called The Valley, Persian style.

So this, like, you guys don't know what this means to me.

Like, I, I, I, I did know this.

Somebody told me and I was like sworn to secrecy.

Did I tell you?

No, but I also feel like you hear rumors like this all the time.

And like, until it's announced.

No, like, like it was like like i knew like it was real like it was from legit source um so i wasn't but i didn't know that it was going to be branded as like a spinoff of the valley which i actually think is brilliant because the valley it's kind of filling this like niche generational gap between like gen z reality tv watchers who love like netflix's shows and then like the og bravo fans that are kind of aging a little bit so where these like young families like where do young moms go on reality tv the valley yeah and I think that them branding it as the Valley, because like, Gigi, they all have kids.

They're all like growing their families.

I think it's so smart.

And this is exactly like every, I don't know who is confirmed.

I know Gigi, Reza, and MJR.

I'm sure Mike Shoehead is not involved.

No.

These are like

professional reality stars.

And think about how much everybody loved MJ on Traders.

They didn't even know her from Shaws of Sunset because everybody slept on Shaws of Sunset.

And I also think like the way Shaws of Sunset, like, we don't talk enough about Shah's of Sunset's cultural impact from so many different angles, right?

Like, people don't even realize, like, it was at a time towards the end, not so much, but like for so many years, it was really about their cultures.

And this was like a group of Jewish and Muslim best friends.

They went to Israel.

Like, they were having hard conversations.

Like, it was kind of doing the most from a million, and then also being like such a good dramatic TV show.

Like, they were having conversations nobody else was having.

Like, let me tell you,

there was no greater show on TV than Chaucer Sunset, and I stand by that.

Yeah.

Maybe that's

the healing that we need.

Yes.

No, I'm telling you, like the, the way like these conversations were being had, these bridges, these gaps were being bridged, like

you look like a piece of wood.

Like bring back Vita, obviously.

The show, like.

Thank you.

Like seriously, thanks to whoever's idea this was.

Yeah, I feel like they could feel us.

Obviously, we have strayed from many franchises.

We've been recapping Bravo a lot in the last few weeks.

And maybe that's been really great for their ratings.

And they're like, we need to keep the girls recapping Bravo shows.

They've, they've stopped watching literally everything else except for Summerhouse, Southern Charm, and Beverly Hills and the Valley.

No, it definitely fell targeted towards us.

No, in a good way.

In a good way.

Like, and even if it wasn't, even this is just some coincidence, which, you know, is God-winking, really.

I'm going to take it as this.

Like, yeah,

we're coming back.

Next, work on Andy's attitude.

1000%.

And if you're interested in watching The Valley, like, highly recommend going back and re-watching Shadows of Sunset.

The first couple of seasons, remember the Lily Galichi, like era?

It seriously wasn't real, you guys.

And it got the Asa, her diamond water.

Bring back Asa.

Okay, bring back Asa.

She's dating like Jermaine Jackson.

Like, she, yeah, yeah.

She made her calf dance.

Like, if you were there, I was obsessed with the siblings.

Who were the siblings?

Uh,

the most recent seasons.

Oh, Mona and um

no with an

the brother he by the way when they arrived like the show was on its last leg like they they remind me of like the twins from jersey you know yeah like they were just kind of like a curse on the show remember bobby and asifa

yeah

they were that couple that got cast that were so miserable with each other and then they came on the toast oh no they came on the breath back in the day and we interviewed them and then i guess she had like never watched our shaws of sunset to recaps so like three days later she wrote me a nasty message being like, had I known what you had said about us on our show, I never would have agreed to come on.

I'm like, okay, I'm like, whose problem is that?

Yeah, but also, I barely remember this, but I feel like she came on and like we liked her.

So like, that's a good way to get us to start saying like better things.

Her and her man were just fucking Miz.

They were honestly like an early version of Michelle and Jesse.

Yeah.

Because I think they were married.

Yeah.

Well, this is all very exciting.

It is.

We will don't take too long.

You know, don't let the grass grow under your feet.

Agreed.

Mike, let's get it popping.

It's my understanding that Shaws of Sunset is already in the middle of filming.

Great.

And the fact that they're calling it the Valley is great, but like we are going to be calling it Shaws of Sunset.

Shaws of the Valley.

And

Real Houses of Rhode Island, I saw like a collage of six ladies.

So hopefully that means it could have been anyone, but hopefully that means things are progressing.

Like, hopefully, these are like actively in development, not just ideas.

Yeah.

I think that I don't think they announce ideas.

I think that like this is what's happening yeah

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Shifting gears.

Liam Payne's ex, Cheryl Cole, takes over the singer's $32 million fortune after he died without a will.

So Liam Payne's ex, Cheryl Cole, was appointed an administrator of the late singer's $32 million estate after he died last year without a will.

The TV personality, Cheryl Cole, who has an eight-year-old son with Liam,

and the music industry lawyer, Richard Mark Bray, were named as co-administrators in court documents obtained by Rolling Stone on Wednesday.

The duo will determine decisions regarding Payne's money, property, and belongings.

I mean, this is really shocking that A, a celebrity, but B, a celebrity with this high of a net worth, like this much cash, would be left without a will, especially when you have a child.

Like, I think most people only have wills once they become a parent.

But in this particular industry, when you have a lot of money, you just create a will.

It's like sort of what's done for you by like your lawyers and your business managers.

So I find this really shocking.

I think a lot of people are like thinking it's weird because him and Cheryl aren't together.

And like, what about Kate, his fiance?

But I do feel this is appropriate.

I feel it's appropriate too.

They're also going to be managing the money.

They have limited authority.

They can't distribute it.

So it's not like she just earned $32 million.

And I imagine like most of the money is going to go to his son.

And that's what he would have wanted.

And it is, you know, a little crazy that someone with his net worth.

who has a child, like didn't have a will.

However, he's really young.

And I feel like it's actually, it's not as crazy as if like a 70-year-old doesn't have a will.

Like it's just something that I feel like you think, oh yeah, I'll do that.

I'll do that.

And then if you don't do it and it's too late, like I, I could see how it's when I saw that, I was, I, I wasn't so shocked.

It's unfortunate, but hopefully because it was like a tragic, untimely death.

Right.

But hopefully between Cheryl and the businessman, like they will do it.

And they'll be well taken care of.

I don't think this is going to be like shady or anything.

Liam, what Liam would have wanted anyway.

I also like, just because I'm nosy, I do find it interesting, like what life as a former One Direction member, who didn't like go on to do a million other things.

Like,

you know, I think maybe 31 million of his 32 are from One Direction, and then the other million is like from various things he's done.

And I would say much more than I thought it would be.

Yes.

And I think that like Harry and Niall probably have way more money, but knowing they all walked away from this band with something like this, and he's probably done well for himself just like investing.

And like you have people for that to take care of your money.

I found that, like not to be nosy, I just found it particularly interesting, especially because we've been told that like those X Factor contracts those simon cowell contracts are like predatory yeah and you get no money but they had such unbelievable success that like i think they eventually a short time period and i also want to say i actually feel like there wasn't that much investing in people taking care of this money i feel like if anything there were people taking advantage of him like he was you know not sober all the time like that that's people like that's when people around you just take everything from you

so i think maybe it was even more at a certain point right but it is very interesting because also when i think of fifth harmony i don't know why i assume like they're all destitute They are.

But like what they were, I, One Direction was bigger, but like still split five.

Wait, by the way, One Direction.

No, I'm sorry.

You can't compare the two.

But what we know about those X Factor contracts, we know from Fifth Harmony.

We know from like how terrible their experience was, how little money there was and how much like seriously was being stolen from them.

When you think about like there, they were also a really short like period of time.

So many hits.

Hits like no other.

Hits like no other.

And I think that like the members who aren't actively working like seriously are on the brink of poverty.

That's how I feel.

Yeah, but but I would have said not poverty for one direction, but like they have to work.

They have to get up and make some sort of living.

I wouldn't have thought that.

I would have thought that like if they're prudent, they could live off of, they could live well off of the money that like, I think Lewis Tomlinson, Zane, and what's the other one?

Uh, Liam, excuse me.

Um,

I think like none of them went on to do major things in the music industry.

And I think they all live very comfortably off of their one direction.

I'm curious if they still make money.

Like, because I mean, I'm streaming.

I'm streaming as well.

I think they must get like 100 million streams a year.

Like, and yes, they have to split it five ways, but there's still people buying merchandise.

Like, there's still money to be made, and there's so much demand.

That's true.

Also, of course, uh, when someone dies in the UK without a will, their children will typically inherit the fortune if there's no living spouse or civil partner.

So, I think that's appropriate.

I think so too.

So, yeah.

Not like, not actually the worst outcome of no, could have been so much worse.

Oh my God.

And Cheryl Cole seems

sounded.

Yeah, she doesn't seem, even though, like, there was a weird element to their relationship.

And she was a judge on his season of X Factor, and like, she was much older.

There was like a little bit of a predatory element.

He grew malish.

But let's not go there.

You know, this is a nice story.

She's 41.

How old was Leo?

32.

Okay.

But he was probably

when I was eight years, when they had a child eight years ago,

right?

So she was a little bit of a dad.

And they dated for a while.

She was like 30 and he was like 20.

And then like a few years before that, like he was 17 on X Factor and she was the judge.

Like it's weird.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Let's just,

you know.

Our fifth and final story.

Our fifth and final story, which will lead into our TV recap, is actually a confluence of everything that we've been talking about in the last few weeks.

The Beckhams, Summer House, Lexi Wood, because Lexi went on vile files and she was asked about.

By the way, I just know that if Brooklyn and Lexi had ended up together, they would all be getting along so well right now.

Yeah, but she was asked about David and Victoria, given that Nicola and Brooklyn, which is like fire line of questioning to the vile files.

I want to say I've actually seen a lot of hate being sent Nick Vial's way for his line of questioning on this episode, specifically about Sierra.

And I'm sorry, I actually think Nick was like asking the questions that a lot of viewers have been thinking.

They're like kind of unpopular, but I am curious about Lexi,

the Beckhams too.

So I want to say kudos to Nick, actually, even though he's getting a lot of heat.

Tell me about that later after on the show.

I want to hear what he asked.

That's so crazy.

But

she said, Lexi was asked about Brooklyn's family.

She said the family is just the nicest, despite claims recently that David and Victoria are actually toxic.

Oh my.

She said, she dated Brooklyn back in 2018 when she was just 20 years old.

And so she opened up about her relationship with the family to Nick Viles.

She says that because she was so young, she and Brooklyn didn't spend a lot of time with his entire family, but she adds they're just the nicest.

She heat praise on David and Victoria specifically, saying they're so cool and Victoria is a style icon in her opinion.

She also had kind words to say about Brooklyn's wife, Nicola, saying she and Brooklyn have a wonderful relationship.

So you're not going to catch Lexi Wood talking shit about anybody.

No, Lexi's extremely media trained, and you're seeing that in a lot of the interviews that she's doing as it pertains to Jesse and Sierra.

Now, in the last couple of days, it has finally finally gotten escalated.

That's a little contentious, but I would have expected us to get to this level of contention like a while ago.

And I think that's what I was saying before: is like so much of what's gone on between Lexi, Jesse, and Sierra, Lexi's sort of like done the right thing.

And the thing we always wish a girl would do, and it's like just blaming the guy, right?

It's like it's Jesse's fault.

Jesse's the one who has responsibility to the girl.

And like Sierra is, you know, they're just sort of like orbiting around each other in the house.

It's kind of weird.

But recently, through like various questions that she's been asked on different podcasts, but I think also like it's escalated personally like her and sierra have had words she's starting to just um like be a little bit critical of sierra and i think that's also happening next week yeah in the conversation because up until this point it's we're always saying it's like yeah but it's jesse we wish that you know the girls wouldn't fight it's the guy's fault like she's doing exactly what like a girl should do having these conversations about jesse and all of his issues in front of sierra even on last night's summer house when she's talking to lindsay and sierra about how jesse's treating sierra like it at no point it's weird it looks like not until next week has no, at no point has she been like critical of Sierra because Sierra's just like she owes Lexi nothing.

Jesse's her friend.

This is how she talks to her friend.

And if it doesn't work for the girlfriend, that's on the boyfriend to change.

1000%.

Although there is an argument to be made.

It's just like as a girl and as like somebody who's been through like these toxic bravo men multiple times, like you would have Lexi's back a little bit more.

Yeah.

And like just offer, you know, be more of a friend than a foe.

And like, she's just sort of like this roadblock in their relationship.

And I actually think last night's episode was a really like a really bad look for sierra i thought so especially at the beach and it's hard because i feel like i have never had a critical thing to say about sierra when i think of like all of her big scandals i was riding so that scandals excuse me dramas i ride so hard for her especially like her verse danielle like i'll never forget that i was lindsay of she she's been so right in everything austin

kroll wes like she she has been just like she's kind of had an amazing time on reality tv because she's found herself at the center of the drama and she's always been right, which is very hard to do.

I do feel like that's not the case this season.

And I, I don't know how she's gonna react to it at the reunion, but I think during the filming, she still thinks that she's like, you know, people are gonna be agreeing with her.

And I've seen people, especially just because like she really likes, she's sort of been the.

poster girl for like toxic bravo relationships that you would just expect her to be more supportive of this new girl who's sort of been like left hung out to dry except for amanda batula which has been very nice to see amanda sort of step up no and the idea that Sierra would even flirt with, no pun intended, like the idea of another Bravo relationship with the kind of guy who's already acting this way towards a girl that he literally loves.

Like, it's not for lack of liking her.

This is how much he likes her, and this is also how he treats her.

So, that she wouldn't run from that, and instead, like, her and the girls are giggling, like, Jesse loves you.

Are you guys gonna?

And it's like, yeah, run.

No, it's so true.

Like, have we learned nothing?

Yeah, so that's where it's like, just you're so unsympathetic.

It's like he's literally Wes 2.0

in turbo mode.

It's also hard to watch Lexi because

she's very, she has a backbone, but she really likes Jesse.

So, like, to see her, it's kind of like a stereotypical trope.

You know, like, this guy's terrible to you.

You're making it so far, like, you're going to get out.

And then you get back together with him.

And they walk in the house together.

It's sort of like a rite of passage for a young girl, especially like a new one on a Bravo show.

It was hard to watch.

And I do think that next week they officially break up, which is good.

But I am okay.

I mean, it's funny that they couldn't even make it a week, but like when they walked back in together and the last cluster fuck of the last few weeks between the Sierra flirting and the toe and the talking shit, like all of that,

I was okay with her giving him one more chance.

Like I think that if he could have learned from all of that, like learn, I need to completely change how I behave, how I think, how I speak.

Like maybe he could have like, I understand why Lexi gave him one more chance.

She likes him so much.

We're going to throw away how much we like each other.

They're literally like.

fireworks in a body.

We're going to throw that away because like we got off on the wrong foot.

We're like on a TV show.

It's very high stakes situation like i will give you one more chance to like act right maybe

but then watching him

watching him sit and talk about her mom and her sister whatever you make of like people have criticisms of how close she is with her mom and her sister and that they go out to clubs together like if you're if i'm letting you into my family unit we're all like hanging out all the time and you're running like talking shit to your friends about my fucking family like yeah sorry we're done yeah We are done.

Yeah.

I don't even care what you, if what you said was valid or if is it weird that my mom went out out to a club at four in the morning?

I don't give a fuck.

Don't come.

Don't come.

And do not speak about my fucking family to other people.

No, I totally agree, especially like in a conversation that had like a negative slant to it.

I wonder what she obviously didn't see that.

So I wonder what will be the thing between this week and next week where she does end things with him.

And it does seem to be more about Sierra.

And finally, the girls are going to have words.

I do feel like, you know, back in the day on reality TV, it was like you wanted to be the biggest, baddest bitch you could be.

And then like times change and trends change.

And now like nobody wants to be a bitch like nobody wants no you want to be seen as a girl's girl you want to be a mean girl you want to be a girl's girl everyone is like passive aggressive no one like wants to go there unless like you're an actual crazy person who like would do anything for reality tv and it's like you don't care how you come off like i'm getting paid i'm gonna provide entertainment like a jack's tailor sort but most of these girls just like want to do brand deals want people to like them they don't want to deal with hate they don't want to fight with other people in the house who like every who are cool and everybody likes.

So like they've really been skating on thin ice.

And it seems like next week, like something happens where they, her and Sierra have words, but also to have a conversation.

It's so weird.

In real time, I think one of the biggest catalysts for now Lexi and Sierra speaking about each other was Lexi's

birthday.

That she invited Jesse and Sierra to her birthday.

Neither of them came and instead they hung out together.

And Sierra says that that's not true.

Yeah, and Viophiles asked her to be like, Sierra said that what you said is not true.

So how do you respond to that?

And she was like, well, I did invite them both to my party.

They were together having lunch.

I have screenshots of both of those things, but I'm not going to talk about it because Sierra has told me to stop talking about it.

And to stop talking about her.

Her.

She hasn't talked about her that much.

I know.

And I feel like Sierra, like, honestly, it could have been so much worse for Sierra had Lexi placed any blame on Sierra and Jesse, not just Jesse, but Lexi's like doing the right thing.

Girls, girl, yada yada.

And Sierra's like still mad.

Yeah,

which I think if Lexi had placed any blame on Sierra earlier than this in the season, like I don't think it would have ended well for her.

Like I think she was right too.

But let's see what happens next week that causes Lexi to like be more activated.

But there's such a weirdness.

Like when Sierra came into the room with Lindsay and Lexi with the martini and Lexi was like, oh, Martini.

She was like, oh, I like would have made you one, but I didn't know you were up here.

Like they hate each other.

They hate each other, but they can't.

Nobody wants to be the first to start it because one, it would make Sierra look really bitter and jealous.

And two, Lexi, that's not very girl's girl of you.

Like it's Jesse who's the one who owes you loyalty.

No, and like Sierra has so many friends in the house.

So if you come in and you fight with Sierra, like you have no friends.

And now the only person you have is Jesse who also talks shit about you behind your back and loves you up during the week.

Like it's a very confusing spot to be in.

1,000%.

So the rest of the- Can we quickly talk about softbar?

We can definitely.

And we also need to talk about her getting up from the table when West was talking about his friend who passed away.

Yeah, that was bad.

Was so crazy.

And I thought maybe she was getting up.

I was giving her the benefit of doubt.

Like maybe she's going to go cry because like she is

feeling, it was feeling emotional and she doesn't want Wes to even know that she has any softness in her heart for him.

But it like wasn't that.

It was really unkind.

So I thought 100% it was edited because like it was so crazy.

I'm like, that's fake.

Like it's literally fake.

But then later in the night, Amanda was like, by the way, did you get up when Wes was so like they referenced the get up.

I'm like, oh, I thought for sure it was spliced together and they were were just making her look bad.

And I honestly thought it wasn't true.

And I didn't give it another minute's thought.

And then they referenced it.

I'm like, oh, she really did get up in the middle of this like really emotional moment where everyone's like talking about their feelings.

And obviously, Carl has experienced with grief.

And like, it was, it, yeah, and it was, it was kind of beautiful.

No, and I understand that you hate.

And unexpected from Wes.

I understand that you hate Wes and like literally you don't want, but there are moments in life where you just lay down your arms and just you can provide just a smile, a comfort.

Like even Lindsay and Carl, when it was the anniversary of his brother's, we had a different Lindsay that day.

Like we, so it's detente for a day.

It's so true.

Like, and the fact that she couldn't do that, and especially after just being so cold to him all season, like, she gives him the leftovers, her martini and she doesn't even look at him.

And it's like, I'm really over it.

You know,

like after everything he did, like the reunion and the public berating of Wes.

You got what he

got on it.

But like, again, we are on a show.

You have to move on from things.

And like, even in her conversation with Jesse, and I understand like really getting so mad at someone, because I can get really mad too.

But the moment someone gives me a sincere apology, especially when it's someone that like is in my life, my friend, someone, and someone you once had love for.

Yeah, like, I don't know, all this, not expecting everyone to be like me, but like, I can forget, I can move on from something.

Like, no, but even just like human decency, even if you still can't move on and you still hate them, they're sitting there crying about their friend who passed away.

Like, even if you have mean thoughts, just sit there.

Yeah, that was weird.

But also, in her conversation with Jesse, it's like there's nothing that he could say to like soften her heart towards him when it's like, last week that was your best friend.

No, and like I get why she hates Jesse,

but like, I don't, I can't get a read on what does she want out of all of this, right?

Like, does she want a relationship with Jesse?

Does she want to be cool with Lexi?

Like, she's just kind of like being a little all over the place.

But also her.

Her attitude is very much like, I don't care.

I don't care about you.

I don't care about this.

I'm done with this.

I'm done with that.

But you care a lot.

She said in it, I just was reading something that she said, like, whether Lexi comes back to the show, great.

And if she doesn't, I'll never see her again.

Like, what do you do?

Like, what do you care?

Like, this whole like attitude of like, take it early.

Like, we're, excuse me, this is a show.

Like, what do you care about?

And to be clear, I think Lexi has had a stellar first season.

I do think she'll be asked back.

I think if she doesn't come back, it's because she doesn't want to be back.

Yeah.

Not because they didn't ask for her back.

She was a great cast.

She's super young.

She goes out when everybody stays home.

Like, all the girls stay home.

She's one of the few girls that goes out.

She like crushes it on social.

I think she was a great ad.

I was actually thinking last last night about how for like so many years

Summerhouse could not get arrested when it came to hiring good people, especially men.

And over the years, like they've gotten lucky and accrued a couple of good people like Paige and Sierra.

But for the most part, like think of how many people have come through that house.

And in the last like two, three years, Jesse Wes,

Lexi, they've actually done a great job at bringing in like younger, newer talent who do go out and do star stuff because I've seen a lot of people being like, I'm so over this Jesse and Lexi stuff.

Okay, sure.

What else is going on that we need to be talking about?

Like so, Sam and Ron.

Like, this is what we want to watch.

No, but what else?

What would the storyline be?

No, but like, this is the type of thing.

Like, you come to a share house, you're single.

Maybe there'll be some matches in the house.

Drama starts.

Like, that's the show.

That's what we want to watch.

And Lexi was on Watch Rapids Live last night.

I did not catch it, unfortunately, but she was literally on two weeks ago, three weeks ago.

So I thought that was interesting.

She's on again.

She's, she's a major player.

Yeah.

Let's just really quickly talk about softbar, please.

Like that conversation was really hard to watch.

Like, and for the first time ever, I saw, like, up until now, everybody's been like, that's so great, Carl.

That's so great.

That's so great.

That's so great.

That's so great.

And for the first time ever, nobody said anything, but you saw it on their faces when he was just explaining the finances of signing a seven-year lease for a space that's $10,000 a month that requires almost a million dollars for build out.

So we saw it on Jesse Solomon's face.

You're giving them too much credit.

We saw it on Jesse Solomon's face.

Carl did not turn his head.

So he did not see it on his face.

And all he heard was words of encouragement from Jesse and from Kyle.

What a bad friend.

Like, I'm sorry, this is so real now.

$900,000 in build out, seven-year lease, $10,000 a month.

What?

Like, is anybody going to stop, like, say, that's not a good friend?

I completely agree.

And it was supposed to be a good thing.

No one wants to be accused of being a bad friend.

Not like supportive.

You are every single one of you who supports this in its entirety without giving like a one red flag is not a good friend.

And you know who is a good friend?

Lindsay Hubbard.

Agreed.

Lindsay had a great episode last night.

She's so fucking funny.

Yeah, I love her.

I love her.

And like, I think everybody's loving her this season.

It's like, cause she's sober, such an annoying thing to say.

But I feel good about the fact that like we've been Lindsay fans now for like two years.

Like we were a little bit early.

No, we haven't, I haven't been a day one Lindsay fan because she used to be really fucking crazy.

But I saw the good in her before most people did.

And I love that she drove out with with Paige.

Like she's really having such a great season.

Yeah.

And she's obviously staying like above the drama because she can't get into the weeds.

She can't be stressed.

I'm sure not drinking.

But just like her position on the show of just like being a supporting cast member with a sense of humor is really enjoyable.

Carl, Carl's assessment that Lindsay is still carrying a lot of shame and embarrassment from their breakup a year ago, I actually thought

was just like a bad analysis.

Like you can harbor any ill will and like say mean things about it, Lindsay, sure.

But I actually don't think she feels that way.

I thought, like, I mean, obviously, she's so moved on.

She's literally pregnant and in another relationship.

But I actually think her takeaway, even when they were like hashing out the breakup on the reunion, I never thought for one second she felt shame.

One of the things I love about Lindsay is like, she's not easily embarrassed.

Yeah, I wouldn't say that it's that, but I can imagine, like, if I was in her position, no, no shame, no, I would hate Carl.

You know, I'm sure there's anger and like resentment, like you wasted my time and made me look stupid, but I don't think when he identified, he thought he slayed.

He was like, I think she's embarrassed.

No, I think she

hates you.

Yeah.

I think she just hates you.

And like you were being hateable even in the last few months of your relationship.

And then you did what you did, even though she stayed with you while you were hateable.

Yep.

I now officially fucking hate you.

And I think that's a really fair feeling for her to feel.

I think so too.

And I think it's also not even been a year.

So like, I think over time it will turn to indifference,

but it's still fresh.

I hate you so much.

And that's okay.

Yeah.

And, like,

time will heal all as it does.

And I'm sure her having her baby, she's me like Carl who, like,

we're so.

She will take leaps forward in terms of her

strong feelings about Carl.

But don't get confused.

It's just pure hatred.

That is our summer house recap.

Tomorrow is our last show of the week before Jax comes to town.

Jax and Claude is coming.

It's down.

We also have Queenie and Weenie.

So start ruminating on that.

I already have mine unless something major happens today.

Hold space for a new

entering the venie.

The weenie is flex and it is open to interpretation until I sit down in this chair on Friday morning.

By the way, Love Island U.S.

is premiering in June.

That actually might be a really good thing for you to watch.

Oh, good call.

I just saw that.

Just because

there are new entering the villa.

Oh, right.

Love that.

Oh, also.

Molly posted Tommy.

I know everyone like wants Molly posted Tommy.

Yeah, she did.

She wished him happy birthday, but it was like from the POV of Bambi.

It was from the POV.

Thank you.

Like, I'm sorry.

It wasn't from her heart.

It wasn't a picture of them kissing.

She was like, happy birthday, Tommy.

Bambi loves you so much.

No, I don't.

Not maybe you do, but she didn't say anything.

It was from the POV of Bambi.

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This is the sound of a typical cage-free barn.

Thousands of hens confined indoors forever.

But at Happy Egg, our hens enjoy over eight acres of outdoor sunshine every day.

They roam, they forage, they thrive in the open air.

Because at Happy Egg, Happy Hens lay happy eggs.

Happy Egg, look for the yellow curtain at a store near you.

Happy!

Egg.