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The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday, also known as Tuesday, kind of the final Tuesday before the official Tuesday, if you know what I mean.
If you know what I mean, Tuesday has always been a day of choice, but it harks from its original history as the day of choice on election day.
The first Tuesday of November is next week, making this actually the last Tuesday of October.
That is what it makes this.
That's so true.
So now that you know that, I feel like you feel like
you're prepped.
1,000%.
Now, do I feel like I have a different energy today?
Yes, you do.
What do you think it harks to?
Can you pinpoint the energy differentiator?
I think it harks to something different you did with your hair or your makeup no no no no it's it's not it's not physical it's actually not physical
oh something that you washed no something that I did this morning I actually did something really crazy this morning you went out for breakfast yes how did you know that Because it's just like a crazy thing to do in New York when you wake up early or something.
Yeah, like it's just a crazy thing to do.
And you and Ben like just found a diner that you like.
So
I just can like talk about that.
There's only so many things things you could have done before the toast this morning.
So, I do think you went out to breakfast.
I did, and actually, we didn't.
So, a new diner opened up on our block that, like, is really exciting for us.
You know, diners are the backbone of America, and we just love to support local diners.
And I feel like diners are sort of like on the decline, not on the rise necessarily.
And you have probably your diner that you love, but it's not often that you get a new diner.
And so, we went over the weekend, and it was good.
You know, they were they still have some meat-kinks to work out, but like the basics were there, thank God.
And then it kind of put us on this mission of like, you know, we need need to try more diners.
So over the weekend, we actually went to three different diners.
And I didn't want to share because like some of them were really bad.
And like me and Ben, Ben got food poisoning.
He actually came home and threw up from one.
Like we, and so I don't want to, I was thinking, I'm like, it would be a funny series for Ben to like share, but I don't want to disparage local businesses because even a bad designer, there's a designer, a bad diner, there is a place for that diner in this city.
Like it is the backbone of our economy.
And I'm not going to be out here like disparaging local businesses.
For sure, it's the backbone of someone's drunk late-night antics.
Yeah.
And so this morning we had all this extra time.
We're like, should we try another diner?
Now, we had been to this one before.
It's kind of a, it's kind of like out of our way, but we had the time.
Very, this morning, it was like a very dink morning, you know, like just sitting down for breakfast, like watching the news.
Totally.
It was so, it really like made me wish like I lived in a world where like I just went out for breakfast in the mornings.
Like if I woke up at six in the morning, like, yeah, and it got like I could have breakfast every morning out, but that's not real life.
I mean, I want to have breakfast every morning out, but I more so want to sleep.
Yeah, I more so want to sleep.
I
breakfast is underrated, you know, and I love like a breakfast of champions, like a eggs and toast and a hash brown.
Like, I really do enjoy that.
And now it's like, if I ever want that, I'll just, I make it.
And that.
Suffices.
The hash browns, I don't know how to make hash browns.
I still do frozen.
Yeah, like the trader joke.
So what do you get?
Today I got a grilled cheese.
And like, let me tell you.
Not the Trader Joke.
Let me tell you, this grilled cheese
has got my vote.
Like,
it was so superior.
And, you know, I'm not really one who, but I don't believe in like, you know, do you want a whole wheat or a spinach wrap?
Like, I don't think those things make you healthy, right?
So.
No, the spinach wrap is not going to make you skinny.
No.
So just get the tasty one.
Right.
And so when they ask what kind of bread, like I'm never one to be like, seven grain.
But I do always with a grilled cheese get whole wheat bread.
Not for the whole wheatiness.
I actually think it's a superior sandwich.
Like, I agree.
I agree.
Like, white bread is.
It's like, what am I?
Six?
Like, it's just not right.
No, it's too basic.
I actually, I like a rye bread.
On a grilled cheese?
On a grilled cheese.
Disgusting.
Oh, you.
With a little ketchup.
I knew you were going to make fun of me and I actually like didn't even want to say because I knew that my yum was going to be yucked, but I had to, like, some people like rye bread.
So here I am representing those people.
I just like, I, I was almost gonna say, like, don't say, don't make fun, but I was like, no, she could handle it.
I thought maybe she'd even be like, oh, cool.
Yeah.
No, because let me tell you this.
I don't have a problem with rye bread.
I think it's actually important to my culture, rye bread.
It is.
I just think that like certain sandwiches, I'll allow rye bread, even though I would seriously never touch rye bread.
I think it's literally disgusting.
Of course, you're having a pastrami sandwich, a turkey sandwich, like certain sandwiches, of course, rye bread.
Grilled cheese is sacred.
Don't you dare bring rye bread into this.
Like, that's sick.
It's a tasty treat.
I, well, because I don't eat store-bought bread.
Yeah.
I'm just kind of superior in that fashion.
This weekend, I actually made so many grilled cheese strandberries because we had a fresh loaf of sandwich bread.
So I made grilled cheese for lunch on Saturday and Sunday and for the kids and for Zach and I.
And like, it was the best.
grilled cheese ever.
Grilled cheese to me is like so important.
And it is something that will truly, truly never go out of style.
Like, I don't know if I've ever turned down a grilled cheese.
I don't know if I've ever not been in the mood for a grilled cheese.
Like, I think when it comes to sandwich culture, everybody's focused on the meats, right?
And grilled cheese kind of gets, you know, thrown by the wayside a little bit.
They think it's for kids.
It's not.
Let me tell you, it is superior.
And it's, I'm not talking about a cheese sandwich, by the way.
Ugh, yucky.
Cheese sandwich is like actually, it's insane how like the same exact ingredients make up a cheese sandwich.
So like just like what a little heat can do.
And butter.
Like there's no butter on the bread of a cheese sandwich.
It's just like plain bread.
A cheese sandwich is actually filthy.
Like ich.
Like it's fire festival.
Yes, it is.
So what you're saying is grilled cheese is always a good idea?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
And like you really, you can have, it's totally a breakfast food, right?
Yeah.
You can have it any time of day.
Like I've never not wanted a grilled cheese.
It's not, sorry, people are going to be like, what?
It's not a breakfast.
It's not like overwhelmingly a breakfast food, but like you can treat yourself to a grilled cheese for breakfast because like it has the same ingredients as your bacon, egg, and cheese on a bacon.
So like you're having toast and cheese and your eggs.
You're having like bread in different form with cheese.
Like you're not I think it's a totally acceptable breakfast menu item.
Agreed.
And I know that's going to be crazy for some people.
And here.
I know that I had like,
I know that like diners in New York like are much more of like a cultural thing.
And I know that because like a couple of years ago, I was...
Like I was getting so much hate on my Instagram story.
People being like, you spelled dinner wrong.
And like, I literally didn't.
Like, I was talking about diner in the sentence.
And like, we just ordered diner.
And I guess like a normal person would be like, oh, you ordered dinner, moron.
And no, no, no, but, or you would say like, we ordered from a diner.
Yeah, no, but like, I would say, we ordered diner to you.
Yeah, but in a sentence, like the grammar is.
And you see how people thought I was like, and they're like, we got you in the typo.
And I'm like, actually, you fucking didn't, bitch.
You didn't.
I ordered diner.
Yeah, but they're not like so actually like crazy.
No, for thinking that.
But then like they were like, you're lying.
You're doubling down.
That's like saying, I ordered Chinese.
I ordered Italian.
I ordered diner.
It's a type of cuisine.
It's a type of education.
Right.
And so then I doubled, people are like, you're doubling down because you're lying.
So it was at that moment that I realized like people don't.
She doubled down because she's lying.
People in New York like take diner more seriously.
And so I don't know if like,
because like at this point in my life, I'm eating at a diner once a week.
And if you don't live in the city, like, is that a common occurrence for you?
Like, how often are you eating at a diner in Minnesota?
Well, I think it just depends.
I think there's like some fast food chain diners, which are probably more prevalent, like Denny's.
That counts.
I feel like even IHOP is considered a diner.
Oh, wow.
That's actually a really interesting question.
I'd have to take a hard look at the menu to see if they cover all food groups, but I think that they do.
By the way, IHOP is 100% a diner.
And by the way, I think that chains count.
Like when I talk about diner culture, I'm including Denny's.
I love Dinner.
It's different to go to like your diner on the corner since 1910 versus like going to Denny's.
Technically, it's the same, but you don't always say when you're going to Denny's, like, I'm going to diner.
No, but they really got that right in Seinfeld, like the diner of it all.
But the diners are going by the wayside, I find.
If diners.
We grew up on diners and like now it seems as though you're having a renaissance.
But previous to this week, like they kind of slipped through the cracks.
No way.
Even though I'm definitely having a diner renaissance, I have been supporting local diners my entire life.
Like maybe not.
No, no, I know, but in the last few years, maybe it's just like
this gap that you slip through the cracks like after you're no longer like drunkenly eating at diners.
You're not like as a kid going to breakfast and you're not like drunkenly eating at diners and like diners have to kind of find their their way back to you in adulthood.
So true.
And you found your way back.
I just, like, Ben and I go into a diner and we like clock everything about it.
Like, the vibes, the staff, like the smell.
The smell, of course.
Well, if it's not a good smell, like, we won't stay.
But, and the one that we ate at where Ben got food poisoning this weekend, we had such high hopes for the soda.
It was so good.
Like, we, because the one we went to previously had like a little bit of a flat soda.
So we were like, we were ready to go.
We were ready to go.
And it was just not.
I just saw a bunch of toasters there.
So, hi, guys.
It was just not good.
Okay.
Well, you live and you learn.
I think that might be a dream of mine.
To open a diner.
Yeah.
I love it.
Just so I could sit there all day.
Dream big.
What would you call it?
Turdy's place.
Oh, TP.
I'd go.
You would go to a restaurant with the name turd in it.
Well, I, of course, I would.
I support my sister.
Other people, I don't know.
No, we would have to make sure that we are at the highest of cleanliness standards.
Well, I just feel like anytime the name turdy is not applicable to like a restaurant or whatever, like it's we go Trudy.
Yeah.
Like that's your backup.
Trudy's place.
I like that.
Just like that note someone sent.
Remember that PR someone said where they're like, are you sure you want to send this to Turdy?
To Turdy?
I am sure.
Are you sure you don't mean Trudy, Lou?
Trudy is cute too.
What would you name your dinner?
She's so cute.
Well, actually, Jackie, our diner would have to be called like toast and ham or
of course.
That's the thing.
We could like talk all the talk all day, but at the end of the day, yeah, it's like toasters.
Eggs and toasts.
like toasters
toast time or the toast
the toast the toast yeah that's what he means
yes we do including rye so that's what's a little different about me this morning well i'm glad you're well fed oh i i ate
she ate and i'm sat she ate and i'm sat and i'm sat i love saying i'm sad the southern charm trailer came out yesterday
i'm sat i was sad is there anything different about you this morning?
Well, I got a party loaf out of the oven this morning.
Okay, so nothing new with my...
Not new at all.
Nothing new with my HMU.
No, I'm wearing like a new sweatshirt.
So you're regular.
I'm pretty regular degler, I'd say.
That's good.
Just a regular Tuesday.
I have a big afternoon.
Huge.
What do you do?
Big things.
I'm doing that secret project with Zach that you know about that everyone's going to know about very soon.
So like hold your horses.
And then even bigger news, I am going to the dentist.
I was so inspired by bruno and so jealous like my tooth was radiating pain and it's time to go and i'm genuinely frightened for what they're going to find like it's i know it's not good the dentist is like genuinely one of the worst places it's so uncomfortable like not even because like i know teeth cleanings like we don't like them dentists not fun but like i'm more so frightened about like what they're going to say i need oh and i'm worried it's an rc
An RC.
Not the RC.
And I've been seeing a lot of like not good stuff about RCs.
You know what?
I saw that clip from The Skinned Confidential, too.
Did, right?
And now like I'm going to be looking for alternatives.
Maybe I could get a silver cap.
You should get a gold tooth.
I think that that's definitely the next step for you.
At one point in my life, I had a silver.
Oh, I guess a silver filling.
I don't know what happened to it.
It must have fallen out.
Can we talk about that?
Like,
is that...
Have we, have just like evolved past the need for like gold and silver fillings?
Yeah, they have porcelain too, but there is like
there's merit in the silver.
Of course, the porcelain I think is more expensive, but I also feel like the silver is like better.
But like as kids, we were all just like walking around with cavities that got filled by pieces of gold.
Like I don't get it.
No, maybe, no, no, no.
I think a cavity.
Listen, I'm going to know my limits.
I don't know.
Speaking of, don't quote me.
I need to issue a correction from yesterday's episode.
This is a big one.
And I learned a lot.
I learned a lot about my own Floridian history, which is that Florida was very much a state during the Civil War, and that they were part of the Confederacy.
Yikes.
So I don't know why I like Florida just always gave me the vibe of a later state.
Kind of like
a little Hawaii, Alaska.
Not that late, but I certainly did not think they were part of the South, but they're part of the South.
So that's a bit of history I need to study up on.
Speaking of geography, I'm glad you brought that up.
You know, I just found something out.
I just recently found out about the geolocation
of Hawaii.
Like, I just found out where it is on the map.
Okay, where did you think it was?
I'm glad you asked.
I thought it was, like, I don't know, attached.
Excuse?
Like, I don't know.
I thought there was like a brick.
Like, I don't know, something.
Like, you're lying.
I thought, like, okay, maybe not attached, fine.
But, like, I thought, I feel like a fairy ride.
Like, I moved in the maps that we like grew up with textbooks.
They move it closely.
It was condensed, right?
So it was just like in the bottom left.
Yes.
Kind of like to the left of Mexico a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like south left
California, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I thought it was just like right there, and I knew that to get to Hawaii, like you do have to go to California, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was really, really shocked when I found out that it's actually like so far left in the middle of the ocean, surrounded by nothing.
It's an island, so yes.
And that was shocking, even though we're miles and miles and miles apart.
Yeah, that was just new information.
Oh, mime will never tell you.
All I want to do is go to Hawaii with you.
Literally same.
Literally same.
We want to go to Hawaii so badly.
We've never been.
We've never been.
It was where I wanted to go for my honeymoon.
I feel like that's where most people go.
I know, but usually you would think with me, like, I wouldn't really have a destination in mind.
Because I'm not, like...
such a wanderlust type of swirly, but I really wanted to see Hawaii.
Yeah.
And I didn't.
We will.
We will.
Oh, now that I got my Real ID, I can travel within the continental U.S.
It arrived yesterday.
Yeah.
Maybe we do a little Jizno Hawaii.
Aloha, Jizno.
I'm obsessed.
I think there's probably four toasters in Hawaii, like, who live there.
And we're going to give them one hell of a show.
We are.
They deserve it.
There's no such thing as a small crowd.
What do they say?
Oh, that's a small part.
And by the way, there is.
There is.
The part that I got in 13 the musical for my senior play.
I think her name was Cassie.
That was was a small part.
Yeah, I think I was the peach and James and the giant peach one summer.
I am not like still upset about it.
I just, I know it came off that way, but I'm not sure.
No, that sort of, let's talk about it because that sort of changed the trajectory of your life.
You were like going one way.
I think it was like show business, the theater.
So let me say this.
I never, ever.
got involved in drama or theater or choir throughout high school.
I just like knew I was a star and those sort of extracurriculars like were beneath me, honestly.
And I feel like you assume that like if you ever did deem to join one of them, like you'd be the star soloist, you'd be the star of the show.
Like you were kind of like
light years beyond a lot in my book that like, you know, there is a stigma with like being in the play.
And that was just not a sacrifice I was personally willing to make.
That had a lot to do with my choice.
And by the time senior year rolled around, there was this thing called the senior play where it's like all the seniors get together and put on a play.
Like you don't have to be in theater.
It's like everyone gets involved.
And it's really,
you just have to be a senior.
And I'm And I'm like, everyone.
Okay.
Finally, you'll lend yourself.
I'll allow it.
And you know, the people who ran like the, it was a student-run production.
And the people who were put in charge were the people who had been in theater for four years.
They didn't like like me.
I wasn't a part.
So I literally show up.
And actually, I remember that the girl who auditioned right before me, she sang, I think Bremer has it, but I dumb.
Like, she was literally awful.
And I was like, I'm going to absolutely crush this.
I sang Don't Rent in My Parade, like, from Funny Girl.
I literally thought I was Rachel Benny.
And we all know that Claudia can sing that song.
And Jackie, let me tell you, I ate and I sat.
Like it was, I remember being like, you ate, they were sad.
I remember thinking to myself, like, I've never auditioned.
I'm never going to audition.
Like, this is the one.
Like, I didn't even have time to be nervous.
I'm like, let's just go in and rock the socks off those theater kids.
Okay.
Yeah.
There was literally no doubt in my mind that I deserved the part.
Now, the lead in this play was a boy role.
So I was like, and if I don't, what was the play again?
13.
Yeah, now
you're thinking Shiva.
It was Racy.
I thought thought she was Shiva.
1,000%.
And so I was like, if I don't get it, it's fine.
They give it to a boy.
Like, it's not a big deal.
Now, I didn't get it.
It went to a girl.
And it was obviously a coordinated attack from like the theater kids.
Like, they did not like it.
And,
you know, she did a good job, Zahaba.
I'll say she did.
And she's kind of a queen.
So I'm not going to disparage her.
She actually did a great job, like, as a boy.
And the more I thought about it, like, I wasn't mad.
I didn't.
She had to like run around in like a boy's wig.
Like I didn't want to be that.
So I got cast as a cheerleader.
And you would think that sounds good, but like there were a lot of cheerleaders.
I was literally one step above an ensemble cheerleader.
The only reason mine was different was because my role had a solo.
And it was like a whole song at the very end.
And it's kind of one of the better songs of the musical.
I wasn't familiar with the musical at the time.
Cut to like a few weeks into rehearsal.
I told you it was a coordinated attack by the theater kids.
They cut my solo.
They were like, we don't have time.
We have to make some cuts.
This song is getting cut.
And I said,
are you fucking kidding me?
Like,
I said, I knew this was a coordinated attack, but you all just pretty much confirmed that you hate me.
All's that to say, like, I was not taking it lying down.
I got the song put back in.
Wait, it gets worse.
It's the dead last song of like, by the time all the parents are asleep, like, it's the worst.
My song comes on.
I've been practicing so hard and I like really was about to crush it.
The first couple of bars, my microphone is off.
Tell me it's not a coordinated attack.
My friend Ada has a video on Facebook.
I have to go find it because literally you can't hear me for the first couple of lines.
Like, stop.
Then I was like, seriously, I was so determined.
And determination was- Like the show must go on.
Determination was not a quality I actually really embodied as a young woman.
So I don't know where this like kind of courage and determination came from, but like I was, I started singing so loud without a microphone.
I'm like, everyone in this room.
Giving Katie Harris.
Everyone in this room is going to fucking hear me and they're going to like it.
Then the microphone.
What a bright time.
Then the microphone came on.
And like, I really, I absolutely crutched so much so that I haven't been back to my high school in a while.
But like when Margo was in high school, I would go back and like, let me tell you, they were still talking about it.
And I'm being dead serious.
Dwight, so because we went to a Jewish J school and they have like full arm security, like 24-7 and like the OG guy who's always standing outside, all the students know him, love him, his name is Dwight.
And like, you know, if you were really cool with Dwight, like you would have like, you know, kind of like inside jokes and stuff.
And let me tell you, after that solo for the rest of the year, and then every time I came back to high school for the next following years to like see Margo graduate and shit, he would be like, solo like he could like he was deeply moved by it and I by the way I am not making this up no I believe you we gotta get dwindled on the pod okay
we do we have to get his side of the story but yeah they tried to keep Turdy down but also I feel like
I just I feel like if you did get the lead in that play, like you might have pursued immediately like a career in music, because I felt like you always planned to, like, not always planned to, but like you always thought if you wanted to, you could.
Yeah.
But them keeping you down like that, they were, it kind of, I think a little bit, like made you doubt yourself.
No, it definitely turned me off to the community because say what you want like about the theater, but it should be a meritocracy.
And I'm sorry, I know you guys think I'm crazy.
Like my audition was the best.
And I was like, it was very political, you know, and I'm dying to name names of like the three people, like the students who were like in charge of, they had a complex.
Like for the first time ever, they were in charge of everyone.
Like I get it.
Let me ask you something.
Where are they now?
That's an amazing question, actually.
Ever since I deactivated my Facebook because I'm a celebrity, I like, haven't really been able to keep up with so many of my classmates.
So much so that I was actually with a friend recently and we were going through the yearbook and he was like pointing to someone and I'm like, I've never seen that person in my life.
Like it actually, it kind of sucks not to have a Facebook.
Yeah, yeah, I do agree with that.
But I guess like if they were somewhere, maybe like we'd know them.
You know, there are a couple of kids from my high school graduating class that are like doing big things.
Are there?
Yeah.
What you don't have to say who they are, but like what sorts of things?
You know, there is a company out there that I think a lot of of people know and like it's like kind of these new healthy food companies okay started by a girl in my grade go her and by the way she was like had the best voice and she actually i don't think went out for the play hmm what if she knew something yeah no like she already knew of about the corruption it was really corrupt that's what it was and i hate to sound like like just a naggy wench because i didn't get the part that i wanted um but It wasn't a meritocracy.
And for me, that's what I realized.
Like, theater is very political.
The best person doesn't win.
And honestly, people who are heavily involved in the theater are like generally, I'm obviously making a generalization, are generally insufferable, Cynthia Rivo.
So, like, that wasn't a community I wanted to dive into.
So, you took your talent solo to the podcast.
And they couldn't stop you.
Yeah, they couldn't.
They couldn't stop you from being the star that you became.
Hunter, we're going to have a good time.
Have hands up to the sky.
We're going to get toasted tonight.
Well, thank you for sharing your truth.
What happened to me in my senior play was also really sad.
Tragic.
What happened to Jackie?
Let me tell you what happened.
So senior play is here.
As Claudia said, everybody does it.
I was never a theater kid because you guys have heard my voice.
However, like I really wanted to be involved in the play.
Jackie, I'm telling you, the
senior plays against some determination.
It's like a spell.
A spell comes over you.
Remember Jackie like coming home being like, I'm going out for the play.
And we were like, okay.
Like she was so determined.
I was so determined.
Plus, the play was really good.
It was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
And so I practiced really hard on my bad singing voice.
And I sang the climb for my audition.
And you guys know I'm like, I can carry that tune to a degree.
To a degree.
And I got a really great part.
I got the part of Violet Beauregard.
Arguably one of the best ones.
Yeah.
Like, I couldn't.
I think it could have been Charlie.
He's so annoying and dumb.
Like, or like, for a girl, that's one of the best parts.
Like, I couldn't have been happier.
Like, oh my God.
Blessed.
Me?
No.
And then they canceled the play.
And I just canceled it.
And I just want to say, like, the fact that you got a bigger role in your play is proof of the corruption I was discussing.
But maybe the corruption and the inner workings of the theater group that you mentioned is what like got the play to the stage.
And maybe because we didn't have that my ear and there was no one like making those hard decisions and like pushing the whole thing through, that's why it slipped through the cracks.
That's actually terrible.
Like, look, they're always cutting funding for the arts.
Like, it's disgraceful.
It's disgraceful.
So both of us were stopped dead in our tracks in pursuing a career in the theater.
I'm going to find that video of me.
You better.
I am going to.
Great.
But now,
now, now I see a brand new you,
and I can stop myself from loving every itty-bitty thing you do.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
That was my favorite.
I absolutely need to see this video.
Have you never seen it?
No, like not in recent history.
Okay, on our fake Facebook, we have to friend Ana.
Are we friends with her on Facebook?
She has it.
I know she has it on her page.
When you send the request now.
Send the request now.
So after the show, we're ready.
Not me friending my friend from high school.
Like, literally, my friend 10 years ago.
My friends on Facebook.
Oh, friends.
Should I find it?
No, no, no, no, because we have to like do the show, but afterwards, that's going to be a sweet treat for that show.
Okay.
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Our first story, some very exciting pregnancy news.
Giselle Bunchin is pregnant with baby number three, her first with boyfriend Joachim Valente, the jiu-jitsu instructor that she's been like linked to for over a year now uh people magazine is reporting that they are expecting their first baby together this will be giselle's third baby she has two children with tom brady a daughter and a son her son is 14 and her daughter is 11 just for context and how old is giselle please 44.
that's
crazy 44.
her being pregnant like is not a big deal.
Like she's in a relationship, like go off queen.
And she, I feel like she's one of those people who loves loves being a mother like loves motherhood it didn't change her body like I think it's like not a big deal for her but being 44 that is a big deal and that's really crazy that's some biblical ass shit and I feel like when you are seriously in perfect shape and you take care of your body every day with like green juice and meditation like this is what happens yeah I think it's so beautiful and also what I really like about it is well just life you know a million things that I like but I feel like also when a long-term like couple breaks up usually like the man moves on and if he's with someone younger like he's able to have more children if he wants to but like women biologically, like, can't do it forever.
And this is like kind of turning the tables a little bit that she's doing it.
And I agree, like, when you are healthy, it reminds me a little bit also of Courtney Kardashian, like getting pregnant at a later age.
It is possible.
And I think this is a great reminder and just a beautiful thing overall.
No, I love that take, by the way, like flipping the total gender stereotypes on their head.
And I also know that like, this is making.
Tom Brady sick.
Like, I know it is.
It's, it's such an unexpected thing for her to do, but it's a real, like when when you have a baby with someone, like, that's a real testament to your love and the longevity of your relationship.
Like, this isn't just like a fluzy.
And I feel like he's been spotted out with, like, a couple of models, like really not deep relationship stuff.
And I think that, like,
I don't know, and we know he's like a really family-oriented guy.
And I think that, like, this woman that the mother of his children is like having her own family now, like, I just know it's making him sick.
And I love it.
Yeah.
Also, like, in some ways, like, this is similar to what happened to him in Bridget.
Like, he moved on and had more children.
And so, so like now he's sort of like feeling what that is like and I would love in this moment to hear from Bridget.
I know she's not gonna speak
I feel like up until now like I wasn't convinced she was dating the jujitsu instructor.
Like I thought maybe she just like likes jiu-jitsu.
Yeah.
Who doesn't?
However, I guess they are together.
Yes, it has been you know just widely speculated up until this point and they were like physically spotted together two years ago.
So yeah, and they like go on vacation together, but like maybe
trainers can't go a day without the Ju.
Yep.
The jiu-jitsu.
Ji Ju.
The Jujitsu.
The Jitsu.
Yeah, so this was really unexpected.
Honestly, mostly because of her age.
Like, I know everyone's going to be like, stop harping on it.
Guys, it's really crazy.
No, it is biblical.
It's biblical.
And I think it's a really great thing.
No, this is really, and I don't think about Giselle a lot.
Like, she's not one of the people who come across my desk really, I feel like...
Maybe in a quarterly manner.
I really don't think about her a lot.
But because she was in the news so much yesterday, I was just like seeing a lot of photos of her, like recent photos.
And it's, it's staggering what a Giselle looks like these days.
Like she is literally, and I know she was the biggest model, yada yada, but she's so insane looking.
Like she really is that bitch.
And she looks the same now.
Like I would say she's just as beautiful, perfect looking now as she was at the height of her career.
Like it's insane.
And she doesn't look like that.
But that's why like she's Giselle.
Like her name is actually an adjective at this point.
Like, oh,
not Giselle.
Yeah.
However, so people were like saying, you know, and noticing that she wasn't on the Victoria's Secret fashion show, whereas a lot of the OGs were.
And like, not to, you know, make it about us, but like, it would have been actually like really cool and iconic if she walked and like revealed her pregnancy on the runway.
I actually completely disagree.
Like, it was such a chaotic cluster fuck.
Like, nobody needed to be.
They would have given her enough screen time to see Kelly.
Like, I completely agree, but like, they needed, like, that would have been really awesome for them.
And done nothing for her.
And I'm sure she would literally never.
Yeah.
So that would have been really great for them.
Just like I think it would be great to have a pregnant person on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
That's like what I want to see next.
What's so funny is I actually do not think of Victoria's Secret when I think of Giselle.
Like to me, she's so much more.
Like I don't think, I don't know, like even the biggest models in the world, like yeah, Adriana Lima, Alice, like I think of all of them and I think of Victoria's Secret.
And I actually didn't even know Giselle walked in Victoria's Secret.
I feel like she just did so much more than that in her model.
She's more like there, I agree with you.
There are some models that are kind of like forever and always Victoria's Secret in a good way.
Yeah.
But Giselle, also, because she was like Tom and Leo,
and I guess I'm just like naming her partners and not actually things that she's done, which is no.
And by the way, I'm like, looking, I just googled like Giselle model.
And like, there's nothing even remotely recognizable like that.
I would be like, oh, yeah, she was the face of Juuchi.
Like, I don't know what the hell she did.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of Victoria's Secrets.
She's so gorgeous.
Like, it's really unfair.
Yeah.
So,
Mazeltov, all's to say, this is beautiful.
To life, to life, lechaim.
She's like, I'm really happy for her.
She sneezed on the beat.
And the beat got sicka.
Lachaim, lechaim.
To life.
She's just the type of person that you could actually sit on Google and stare at pictures of her.
And it's actually, she's, you know what she is?
As Kim Kardashian would say, she's extremely interesting to look at.
Yeah.
she is.
Well, put her with your video for Mana that you can look at later.
And I can't retreat for after the show.
I can't wait to see what that daughter gets into.
Yeah.
I don't know what she really looks like, and she's 11, so she probably is going through an awkward phase.
Like, I don't think what she looks like now is what she's going to look like.
But I could see her, you know, making waves as well.
Yeah, plus, like, her genetics.
Same with the son.
You know, I'm sure he's into football.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
So that's very exciting.
Are you ready?
It was more so shocking than anything.
I know.
I agree.
I love a shock.
It takes a lot to shock me.
Yeah.
I feel like there's been like a couple of like shocking bits of news recently.
Everybody's just kind of acting out.
It's true.
It's that time of year.
That time of year.
I am ready.
Our next story, some podcasting news.
Someone is entering the world of podcasting.
Oh my God, it's like enough.
Who?
Army Hammer.
Oh, has it enough?
Like I said, it's enough.
Has launched a new podcast joking that he likes the cannibalism scandal.
So of course, the first thing, he launched his podcast.
The title of it is
the Army Hammer Time Podcast.
Now, that's a really bad name, and it had potential.
And actually, the name Army Hammer is such like a unique name that there are so many different things that you could have done.
And I think he wanted to focus on Hammer Time.
So, why didn't he just call it Hammer Time?
He should have called it hammer time.
Obviously.
That's it.
A one-name one time.
What did he call it that Army Hammer Time show?
Podcast.
Awful.
The Army Hammer Time Podcast.
Five letters.
I mean, five words.
Tatip.
Tatip.
So he launched his podcast Tatip on YouTube Monday as he continues to quote Put His Life Together.
He said, Some of you are going to love this, and some of you are going to fucking hate it.
He said in a clip posted via Instagram while skateboarding in Venice Beach earlier in the day.
He explained that the podcast will serve as a journal journal for him to acquire wisdom from his guests.
He says, I've gone for the last four years.
I've been gone for the last four years and now I'm back.
You know, what are you going to do?
So it's going to be sort of a journal or chronicling of putting my life back together.
He continued, I'll let you into my world a little bit.
Then he sat down with Tom Arnold to discuss personal growth and rebuilding his career.
Who is Tom Arnold?
It seems so familiar.
Yeah, he's like an actor,
a working actor.
Yeah, that's a perfect way of putting it.
He's a working actor.
You might recognize his face, but you don't know him.
Army Hammer is so interesting because he has this sort of, like we were saying before, determination, much like the ones you and I had during the senior play.
Like, he's really not willing to give up his limelight in public life.
And I think a lot of times when there are such like heinous accusations made against you, like you just sort of rightfully so, like, you just give in.
Like, there's no, Kevin Spacey, right?
Like, there's no, nothing left for you out here.
Like, go home.
And Army Army Hammer will not give up like
he
just sort of isn't taking this lying down and he really needs to stop yeah
like I guess with like Kevin Spacey and the other like you know egregious actors that come to mind it's like they're caught up in like lawsuits and stuff and like are maybe going to jail um but he doesn't have that
but I feel like sometimes with not with Kevin Spacey but like certain people who get accused of things okay here like Chris Brown there's like a contingency of people who like still believe and support and want more music.
I don't know that there's like a large group of people begging for Army Hammer to return to public life.
Right.
So like who is this for?
For that group of people?
Like there's always going to be one or two, but like if it's large enough to
really monetize, well then you've got a little business.
Now let me look at something really quick.
I feel like Army Hammer could like change his name, move somewhere and like get a job, like, I don't know, in sales as a realtor.
And I think he would have a lot of success in it because he's like really good looking.
And people would be like, oh, you kind of look like Army Hammer.
And he'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he could like rise the ranks and have a lot of stories.
He said he was like selling real estate in the Cayman Islands.
Yes, but like as Army Hammer.
Like I think he could do like a full identity
change.
So I went to his Instagram to see like, is it, what's the engagement like?
What is...
What are people saying?
So his podcast announcement has 2,000 comments, which is a lot.
And the ones that I'm seeing so far like, are positive.
Love this idea.
Can't wait to watch.
Podcast is going to be awesome.
King Army.
Great to see you.
King Army.
Maybe he has a lot of restricted words in his comments that he blocks because I don't see one being like, but you're a cannonball.
You definitely can't.
You're a cannonball.
You definitely can't write the word cannonball on.
No, not cannonball.
Cannibal.
Excuse me.
Like, I feel like it's a blocked comment.
You know, should I just write a comment like cannibal and then quickly delete it?
Would you even know if it was a blocked word?
No.
And then you're just like hating on like in the hater section.
I have finally got to the hater section.
Thank God.
Hi, back to the place you were.
We don't want to see you as you remind us of how twisted Hollywood is.
Really?
Hush, nobody gives a damn what you have to say.
There it is.
But you know what?
There are people.
There are people who will listen to this podcast.
So as we always say, whenever someone launches a podcast, like the cream rises.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
Yeah, if you've got it, you've got it, and nothing can stop you.
Nothing can stop you.
That's the beauty of podcasting.
Yeah.
You're on your own kid.
Actually, I saw something interesting on social media that was kind of lighting up a debate in the podcast space because a lot of people want Kamala to go on Joe Rogan.
And he has actually issued an update on his conversations with Kamala.
And a lot of people are like, are you kidding?
So he said, I have been in contact and she wants to do it, but they want us to come to her in wherever she is, like DC or whatever.
And they've given us a limit of one hour.
Now the Joe Rogan thing is like everybody, Elon Musk, everybody goes to his studio in Austin and they sit for however long the conversation goes.
There's no time limit, usually around two to three hours.
So a lot of people are either saying like, Joe Rogan, who do you think you are?
Like the vice president.
And then other people are remarking on really the power of podcasting, that you can make these types of demands because it is such an influential show.
I thought that was interesting.
I think that is interesting.
The Trump one came out on Friday, so we never even talked about it, but it's like breaking every record.
Right.
And I think they're like Kamala's being like, oh, damn, I want that too.
I think she should 100% do it.
And I think his terms are fair.
That like, I do, because he said it's not the same if it's not in his studio.
But I feel like she's moving around the country.
Like, she could pop into Austin.
I said this last week.
People thought I was like saying Trump is more mobile than Kamala.
I was saying Trump is more mobile than Joe Rogan.
And same for Kamala.
Like she's in a different city every day.
Like pop down to Austin, do a little something and then could leave.
He's the one who's sat.
But it is, I think, think, like really remarkable and kind of a statement on like the impact of podcasts that like you can make these type of demands and like literally people running for president will fly down to your home or wherever his studio is.
I feel like it's like attached to his house and come to you.
Like that's kind of crazy.
Yeah, but I think that like the
the beauty of his show like is in the format of it being so long
every time for everyone, no matter who you are, you sit in the same place.
But you really get to like, he gets to know a person.
We get to know a person.
Like you can, for three hours of someone talking to like listen to them for three full hours, like you really get a sense of what they're about.
You can't like really
fake it or have like sound bites for three whole hours.
Like you just have conversation.
So I think it would be like a great thing for her to do, but she has to do it that way.
That's what he said.
And I don't think he's budging on his church.
Maybe they could compromise on like him going there, but it will be three hours.
One of the things.
That's like what they call compromise.
I wonder what's going to happen, but there's only like eight days left.
I know.
I don't think it's going to happen in time.
And you know, I was thinking, because i know there are a lot of undecided voters and i i had a thought that i want to help if anyone's undecided here's what they should do okay
flip a coin no no that's terrible like this i actually think is a foolproof way of figuring out who you should vote for okay
the person in this world that you hate the most You need to find, and like who you just think is like an awful person on the inside.
You need to find out who they're voting for and then vote for the opposite.
Ooh.
I thought that's like not a bad strategy.
I know.
Not like the worst thing I've ever heard.
I really have to, I need to see it.
I need to see practical application of policy.
Yep.
But
she's onto something per chance.
Did you hear that?
I did hear that.
Oh,
speaking of, no, I think it was like, you know, a crane falling.
It's fine.
The update everyone's kind of been waiting for.
I have a lease in hand.
When do you move?
I don't know.
I need to, my lawyer's looking at the lease, lease, making sure I'm not, you know, getting myself into a bad situation.
But once it's signed,
sealed and delivered.
Sealed and delivered.
So I might need to do like a week of audio only while I get my new studio up and running.
Okay.
Anything for the new studio.
I'm really excited.
I'm excited for you and for us and for a new era.
And we will do like a proper goodbye to this facility that has really treated us so well.
I didn't want to get into it because I don't want to get emotional.
But
on to the next.
On to the next.
So, yes, major podcasting news between Army Hammer and Joe Rogan and Trump and Conflict.
Between Army Hammer and...
Really?
Like, podcasting has been the name on everyone's lips.
Oh, you want to know something interesting?
I feel like recently when I've been talking to like people that I don't know, especially like older people, and I tell them that I do a podcast, you know what a lot of people have been saying to me?
You know what they've been referencing?
What?
Nobody wants this.
That's really that has become the older people like touch point for podcasting, especially because like I do it with my sister and it's like swirly.
And so, and you guys know I hadn't watched it yet, but now I actually want to watch it to see the representation of podcasting because that's like what people are thinking that we do.
And is it a good representation of podcasting?
I actually do think it is.
Like they treat it as a real job and like the potential for X, Y, and Z.
And they have all these meetings like with Spotify.
And so it's like taken really seriously.
And then also like their personal lives have like a real impact on the show because their show is like a dating show and sex.
And so when she starts dating this rabbi, she like stops wanting to like talk about like sluttiness and you know, blowjobs and gag reflexes.
And it like kind of poses an issue for the other sister when it's like that's our shtick.
Um, interesting, it's kind of the intersection of growth and podcasting.
It's actually interesting.
I think I would like that angle, and now I feel like I should watch it because that's how people are like seeing our industry.
Yeah, no, I think it's a good representation.
That is so funny.
Well, are you ready for our third story?
I am.
Not so funny, not funny, not funny.
Uh, Liam Payne updates, a couple of updates.
So a lot of stuff is coming out about Liam Payne and his previous OD
prior to his death where he had to be revived.
Also,
he has a Netflix show.
that was supposed to come out
about bands.
Like it's called Building the Band.
It was a Netflix show that he was a part of alongside Nicole Scherzinger and Kelly Rowland.
And now it's like, it's being shelved for a little bit.
Oh, but it's kind of like a good idea for a show.
Yeah, I don't know what will come of it.
I think like, I think eventually it would come out.
I had read somewhere that maybe they wanted to like show it to his family first and like run it by them, but that's what he had been working on.
And then also security footage allegedly shows that he fainted before accidentally falling to his death.
Oh.
Yeah.
So Argentine officials are in possession of security footage showing Liam Payne fainting before falling to his death from his hotel balcony, a local journalist claimed.
The journalist said on Buenos Aires-based TV station Canal 13's show that the video backs up the theory that he was unconscious before he accidentally fell from the third story of Casasur Palermo Hotel on October 16th.
He said there's footage that is not being released to the media with the balcony scene where you see that Liam faints and tragically because of where he is, falls from that balcony.
If he had been beside his bed, he would have fallen on his bed.
It's not that he jumped deliberately.
This footage is in the official case file, this journalist says.
All right.
I mean, I guess there was like a lot of speculation as to whether this was like an attempted suicide or just like purely an accident for someone who
had a lot of drugs and alcohol in their system.
So if that's true, then like, I guess that confirms that it was the latter, which is so sad.
Yeah.
So sad.
Did you also see that like Naomi Campbell had said, like, made remarks on Liam Payne's death?
Because at one point they had dated.
Yeah.
Did you know that?
I didn't remember that they had dated if I did ever know it.
So that was like new news or old new news to me.
That was crazy, crazy news for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This whole situation is like really so sad.
Yeah.
Really, truly.
Well, I guess like, you know, getting that sort of closure or at least like knowing what happened in his final moments, I think would probably like bring family peace.
Closure.
Yeah.
For sure.
For sure.
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Our next story, another new face of Skims, another Skims campaign, slaying the house down boots.
Tate McRae slays in Skim's new holiday campaign in a variety of sexy lingerie and cheeky intimates.
So Tate McRae is the burgeoning pop star who reminds me of our sister Margo because Margot loves her and they also look alike.
And she's literally celebrity doppelganger twins with Ariana Beerman.
It's the craziest thing ever.
Interesting.
She is, but like when you look at her in a different light, like I don't see her in C.
Ariana Beerman because I'm just like seeing her in a different context.
Yeah, no, but she's Ariana Beerman.
She is Ariana Beerman.
She's dating the kid Leroy.
Yes.
And this is what the kids are up to, and Kim's got her finger on the pulse.
Yes, this is just like another instance of Skims, like knowing what's good with the kids.
They really cover all demographics.
Yeah, from Olivia Munn
to Tate McRae.
But this is also like kind of a big...
sort of like stamp of approval for Tate McRae because she's very much like a big pop star, but she kind of exists like within the internet a little bit.
And this is like a really big
opportunity for her.
And I think it'll introduce her to a lot of people who aren't familiar.
Her music, music, she got her start on TikTok.
And yeah, she sells out like Madison Square Garden, but like, so does Sabrina Carpenter.
Like, I don't feel like the two are given the same sort of credit.
No, it's like, it's a little frustrating for me, like, as a Tate swirly.
Like, I really do like her.
Like, it's like, why isn't she in the running with Sabrina, Olivia, and Chap?
Like, why is Tate slipping through the cracks?
I don't know why.
Why isn't she getting there?
I don't know.
I think she's like a little confined to the internet.
Like, I think if you're not on TikTok, you don't know her or her music.
I'm not on TikTok and I know.
Well, I'm a pop swirly.
So like, but you're gonna know.
If you're not.
I'm not an avid internet user.
Yeah.
But like why shocking that you're gonna be talking about?
She's got the talent.
I don't know.
She's got the songs.
She's got a lot of people.
She's got a celebrity boyfriend.
Why isn't she like one of them?
I don't know.
And actually, I was just reading something about her really interesting is that she's not eligible for best new artists this year because there is a limit on how many times you can be submitted for the Grammy's Best New Artist.
And I guess her team has already submitted her three times.
I don't know at what point they would have submitted her.
I heard about her last year, but she like she's someone who could have won.
Like,
yeah.
I just, I don't know why she's like falling behind when she should be right up there with them.
So this Skims thing, I think, is like a good push into like, into the offline community.
Yes, yes.
But there needs to be more of a push, I think, from her team.
Yeah, it's, it does feel like
stalled a little bit.
Yeah.
So, wait, do you have Sean Mendez as a story?
Sorry to ruin your big moment.
Um, No.
Why?
I don't know.
We have to talk about it.
Okay.
Boot whatever
thing is.
What?
Boot whatever the fifth story was.
Oh, but I like the fifth story.
But okay, our fifth and final story then is Sean Mendez was making waves at his concert talking about his sexuality.
Saying that it's first time.
Still figuring it out.
So he had a concert in Colorado on Monday, and he's speaking candidly about his sexuality.
He said
he was uh weighing in on conversations about sexuality in his lyrics that are like, Some days I have a change of heart, you can say what you need to say,
you can say, I'm too young, you can say, I'm too old, you can say, I like girls or boys, whatever fits your mind.
However, that sort of like was in line with things that he said in the past because
he's addressed the fact that in the past, like people have said that he's killing, like, so that's just like a part of his story.
So, um, he told a crowd, since I was really young, there's been this thing about my sexuality, and people have been talking about it for so long.
I think it's kind of silly because I think sexuality is such a beautifully complex thing and it's so hard to just put into boxes.
He said, it always felt like such an intrusion on something very personal to me, something that I was figuring out in myself, something that I had yet to discover and still have yet to discover, insisting that he's speaking freely now so he can be closer to everyone.
He continued, the real truth about my life and my sexuality is that, man, I'm just figuring it out like everyone.
I don't really know sometimes and I know other times.
And it feels really scary because we live in a society that has a lot to say about that.
He said, I'm trying to be really brave and just allow myself to be a human and feel things.
And that's all I really want to say about that for now.
Right.
So, like, on its face, like, he didn't say anything.
He's like, I'm gay, I'm by.
Like, he didn't say a great proclamation, but it is the first time where instead of his line thus far has been, like, people are always commenting on my sexuality, like, leave me alone.
And has girlfriends.
We're like, okay.
But this is the first time he's like, well, my sexuality is kind of up in the air.
And I didn't know that that was a possibility.
And to be honest, like, I am so happy for like specific gay men in my life who would seriously do anything for Sean Mendez.
Like he really is like a gay icon without being gay.
Yeah.
Or, you know, who knows up until this point.
And so I think there is like thousands of gay men who dream about him.
And like they actually might have a chance.
Like that is exciting for them.
Yeah, to go out with him.
Yeah, like, you know, you could have a crush on a celebrity and like you obviously don't have a chance.
But if that celebrity doesn't even like your gender, like you really don't have a chance.
Yeah, yeah.
But now like, so you're saying there's a a chance oh so who would you set who is it who would you set him up oh my god nobody nobody loves shawn mendez more than scottie kuna like it is his dream like he is obsessed like and now like it's actually a possibility yeah so i'm happy for them now what does this remind me of ask me turdy what does this remind you of turdy what does this remind you of
Joshua Bassett.
Like you're telling me that like all these girls like Camilla Cabello, Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrita Carpenter are bending themselves out of shape getting so heartbroken, writing all this incredibly popular, famous music over a man who maybe, maybe
doesn't even like girls.
Like, because Joshua Bassett did come out shortly after that saga as like a queer person, and he wasn't very specific about what that meant.
And then I think he did like
go back on it.
I think he did like something like like a little conversion therapy type of thing.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But there was like a whole thing with his sexuality.
And it's like, oh, well, we were all fighting over you.
And like, you don't even like either of us.
Like that.
Well, no, because he could like girls and boys, he could, he could.
So, and I actually think that's what Sean Mendez is getting to.
Same,
at least right now.
I don't, yeah,
yeah,
so I don't think it's that like he never liked the girls that he was with, like, and that they don't still have a chance, like, but that maybe he's just open to other human beings.
Like, but it is sort of giving like a little bit word salad,
it's giving word salad for sure.
But
see,
I feel like
here's an example: like Harry Styles has alluded often to him being like very fluid, right?
A lot of his music videos are suggestive of both and some of the lyrics.
And he's like, he wears dresses.
Yeah, he's very, like, you know, whatever.
But he's never dated a man, right?
Like, he's spotted out all the time in these relationships.
He's currently dating someone who I actually, I've been meaning to tell you that I think you should start following because she has a cover of, okay, I just followed her.
Moment Way.
He's dating.
Is this a food blogger?
No, that was a while ago.
She's a singer, but she's kind of like a jazz singer.
I think her name is Olivia Dean.
She's very old.
Yeah, Olivia Dean.
Her Instagram is at Olivia Dino.
How do you spell that?
D-E-I-N.
She's insane looking.
And her music, she has a cover that's going really viral on TikTok right now of like an old
Frank Sinatra typey song.
Like, I actually think you would like this girl's whole vibe.
I've been meaning to tell you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll bookmark it.
And so he's someone who we've actually, and that's why people accuse him of what the kids are calling queer baiting.
It's like you use it for like music videos, but like, where's your boyfriend?
To be honest, when you put it like that, that word comes to mind.
Yeah, no, it's like, well, are you?
Yeah, like, talk the talk, but not walk the walk.
So that's kind of been a criticism of Harry Styles.
So I wonder.
And so I would personally love to see maybe Sean Mendez and Harry Styles dating.
Like that, like that's a possibility now.
Now, I actually don't think that they are compatible in like in a, in a lot of different ways.
Because they're like, they're the same, right?
It's It's like a magnet.
You have two at the same end and it doesn't click.
Yeah.
What you're referring to is like, I think they're both tops.
Like, if I had to guess, and I don't know if this conversation is like really out of pocket, like, I'm sorry if it is, but like, it's fine.
Um, I like, I don't think that they would be compatible.
Are you saying that they are of the top variety or that they're just of the same?
Like, could they also both be bottoms?
Like, which I think is possible, but are they both
pretty?
Are they the elk of tops?
Based on my pretty extensive knowledge of like gay culture and
I've been told like I am a power bottom, I would identify, and you could be wrong about these things, but I would assume.
Now,
my gay friends, like, please sound off in the comments if you agree.
And also, I don't know if speculating about somebody being a top or bottom is like the most offensive thing.
So I'm sorry if it is.
I'm just like, I'm just having fun.
I'm just happy for the, I'm excited for the possibilities of what's to come.
I feel like they'd be the elk of bottoms.
And I feel like that really points to you not knowing much, honestly.
No, but I, no, no, no.
I feel like I have my my reasons and we can chat off bottoms.
I have my reasons and we can chat offline.
Okay, I would love to hear them.
I actually don't know if they're the same elk now that I think about my reasons.
So maybe they are compatible.
Maybe they are.
Like a positive and a negative charge.
That's what I'm saying, like a magnet.
Yeah.
Click.
Click.
So.
This is just kind of like.
You're very excited for like, because there's kind of endless potential here if he could just
go around of like Harry Styles and like saying he's one thing but then only dating girls you know yeah I don't think this is that actually
I don't think so either but it because he could have done that for years and instead he's been like really adamant that he is hetero
and so I think actually if he's like really opening up this door it's because like it's very real to him Yeah, yeah.
And I have to imagine if he's like sharing it, like he's obviously done a lot of growth and discovery.
And I don't know.
I just kind of got to a place where at first I was like, oh, maybe he is gay.
But then he was like so
not.
And he said in so many, he spoke about it too.
Like, you know, everyone's always talking about my sexuality, but I am, you know, what I am that he really convinced me that he wasn't.
Yeah, I guess like the reason, I feel like what Sean Mendenz needs, like, is space to figure it out.
And that's probably why I did not choose this story, because it's like, I don't even like talking about this so much because it's like he doesn't even know.
So what do we know?
Right, but I guess that the fact that he's admitting that he doesn't know is like the first sort of crack in the otherwise, what's going on?
No, I'm not.
Yeah, yeah but it's just like
i want to give him space i agree and the one thing like he definitely needs is like time and space to to figure all this out yes which means like we have to wait and i guess that's what we'll do because we literally have no choice yeah
so you're back together
And if that's true, you just have some hair.
Actually, at the diner today, they were playing Sabrina.
She's everywhere.
She's everywhere.
And that is so good for society society and humanity.
You guys don't even know.
We're all eating breakfast.
Like we're getting like a sprinkle of fairy dust.
So true.
As opposed to like a storm cloud.
Just out of curiosity.
What was the other fit story?
It was like pretty big list news.
What was it?
The Forbes creator list.
Can we save it for tomorrow?
Because that's like, that's actually, I feel like story number one type of material where we dive into what everybody makes.
Yes.
Yes.
I just like, I was putting it at the end for like, for us to have a big runway, you know?
Yeah, but I actually think.
I'm happy to move to save it for tomorrow.
Happy tomorrow.
Because I also want to look at the list and see what shocks me.
Like about you want to have money, how much money people make.
Yeah.
And
yeah, it's pretty good.
So we'll save that for tomorrow.
A little teaser.
We never do that.
That's what's going on tomorrow.
That's what went on today.
A little tease.
Oh, show a little skin by Sabrina Carpenter.
Stream it.
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