Make America Sisterly Again: Monday, September 23rd, 2024

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  1. Hayden Panettiere speaks on viral 'uncomfortable' interview (Page Six) (20:31)
  2. Olivia Munn and John Mulaney welcome baby No. 2 via surrogate (Page Six) (26:12)
  3. Influencer Liv Schmidt banned from TikTok over 'dangerous' weight loss advice (NY Post) (31:17)
  4. Tamera Mowry Says She "Didn't Know" About Sister Tia's New Reality Show (Deadline) (49:12)
  5. Fans Believe Camila Cabello Shaded Sabrina Carpenter (Netflix Junkie) (57:44)


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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday.

And I know it doesn't sound great.

I know.

And yeah, you have something to offer us?

You would be right about that.

You don't have something to offer us on the bright side?

I'm just a girl.

Like how much I have to put the weight of the world on my shoulders on a Monday morning.

Well, one thing that's happening today is that we're feeling green, apparently.

Green with envy.

We're kind of the green girls.

The jolly green giants.

I am definitely a jolly green giant.

Yes, we are both wearing green.

I don't know what it's like where you live, but it is officially like the first working day of fall.

Fall began yesterday or Saturday, right?

In an official capacity.

So there's a lot of debate over whether or not the season started on the 20th or the 21st.

I'm kind of a 21st swirly, but that's just me.

If you were to like go on, if I was to go on Jeopardy and you were to ask me like what day did the season start, I too would have said the 21st.

I didn't even know there was this nationwide debate about it.

It's a debate between me and my friend Rebecca because her birthday's on March 20th and she insists it's the first day of spring.

And I say, Rebecca, like the solstices are there on the 21st.

Okay, so you're just kind of being negative because she wants to say her birthday is on the first day of spring.

And like, let's just let her say it, you know?

I'm a stickler.

You are such a stickler, so much so to the point where you would destroy your friend's birthday for the rules.

Destruction.

Oh, my goodness.

Destruction.

But yes, we are feeling green.

We're feeling kidding.

I think today is the day where I am going to whip out the first crock pot of the season.

No liner.

No liner.

What you making, Turt?

I'm not sure.

Well, I woke up.

It's literally the high, the high of the day is said to be 70, which I know sounds high, but like last week it was in the 80s, like serious hell.

So temperatures are coming down.

It's not supposed to be sunny today.

And over the weekend, I started Gilmore Girls.

So I'm really in my crockpot season.

And I want to talk about Gilmore Girls if you'll, if you'll allow it, just for a minute.

I'll give a little bit of space.

Just a little bit.

Just, and it's not really deserving of that much more space.

So let me say this.

Kate, could.

I have never seen Gilmore Girls.

It's just like a fun fact about me neither have i that's why i'm only giving it a little space like you weren't a gilmore family like a category that just like doesn't interest me i can't explain it it was a part of like entertainment and media that just sort of bypassed us as young girls and i knew like kind of nothing about it um

and i have tried once before to watch it like last year because my netflix it was like resume episode one season one i had watched 10 minutes it didn't do it for me i don't know why i just maybe wasn't in the right space but i am in the the exact space I need to be in to let this into my life and sort of receive it.

And I am enjoying

immensely.

It is such a good show.

That bitch Rory can scram.

Like the scenes that she's not in are a joy, and the scenes that she's in are just destructive.

And I could tell she gets worse.

Like I could tell.

I love it.

I love it.

I don't really have like complex thoughts because

somebody, I read this and it's so true.

Like Gamore Girls is a show like where truly nothing happens.

Like I don't have like hot takes.

Like it's just a nice show.

And I like a lot of the characters.

Like I love Melissa McCarthy.

I I love Lorela I love the grandparents so it's good it's good I really like it the grandma's really making news because her book just came out she wrote memoirs of a Rory's grandma memoirs of a Gilmore

if only if only yes she's making news so I feel like and it's also a show that it doesn't like exclusively take place during the fall season, but it's a show that has become synonymous with fall.

It's very fall vibes, like cozy.

It's a cozy show.

And I'm so glad I started it when I did.

Ben has weirdly seen it because I think, like, Maddie, his sister, grew up like loving it.

And so when the theme song comes on, like, he literally knows all the words.

It's really weird.

When you're out on the road.

It's actually a good theme song.

It's like a regular song, you know?

Yeah.

It's Carol King.

Beautiful.

Come my name and I'll be there on the next train.

If you lead,

I will follow.

I will follow

anywhere that shit.

And it's actually oddly, nobody in the show is Jewish.

Actually, I could see Ben knowing all the words to that song because he just knows that song.

That is so Carol King-coded.

Right?

I feel like probably he grew up with it playing in the house.

1,000%.

I actually think Ben and his parents saw beautiful the Carol King musical somewhat recently on Broadway.

100%.

Oh, and the show is oddly, there's no Jewish characters in the show, but it's like Jewish-coded.

Like so many of the jokes you could tell were like written by a Jew.

And that's because Amy Pelladino the creator is a Jewess She wrote Marvelous Miss Maisel as well

Interesting.

So I highly recommend I do think you'd like it

I Have a lot like I still haven't gotten back into desperate housewives like that's what's waiting for me every night, but then I just get sort of overrun by administrative tasks around the house So like my content plate is full if I ever had an opening I would put Gilmer Girls in there, but did you get my Instagram message this morning?

Yeah, you but my story had been deleted.

What were you talking about?

Did you post a picture that you were reading the Long Island Compromise?

I did.

Okay, that's what I thought you were responding to.

The reason why the story is not available, I couldn't see what you were responding to, is because I deleted the story like 10 minutes after I posted it because I was reading the book and I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna finish this.

Jackie.

So I don't wanna be like tethered to having to give a review of the book.

It was my book club choice of the month that we're supposed to be meeting tonight.

Not one person, except for the person who chose it.

Sorry, Abe.

Not one other person finished the book.

We're not meeting.

What percent did you get to?

I must be at, there's four chapters.

So I'm in the middle of the second chapter.

Okay.

And it really pains me.

I don't want to like on my platform bash a book about a Jewish family written by a Jewess.

No, the thing is, I don't feel akin to like the Judaism here.

It's giving like

Okay, here's what I said.

Here's what I said.

Here's what I said.

I'm not going to be anti-Semitic, but it's a little too much.

No, here's what I said about the Judaism in the book.

And seriously, I fucking hate this book with every fiber of my being.

The writer is talented in the way that she was able to, out of thin air, create some of the worst human beings to ever exist.

Like if I ever met one of these fucks in the street, oh my God, Beamer, it would be over.

Now.

What I had said when I had first started reading the book and I intended on finishing it But I wrote in the book club thing I'm like I'm immediately disliking the book because it is that brand of Judaism that's so corny and like you just know if any non-Jew or anyone anyone with like a slight dislike for Jews picked up this book they would hate Jews even more like ha nose job ha McMansions ha funny that's nose job like I I thought it was so cheap and then the actual once I was able to get past that the actual plot of the book like the I just oh my god Jackie run for your life run fast for your mother run fast for your father so let me tell you I got on this book because Dana recommended it.

She finished it.

She said that she loved it.

And then this author also wrote a book called Fleischman is in Trouble, which was a TV show.

I didn't read the book, but I watched the TV show.

And I can't say that I liked the TV show, but I felt a lot of feelings when watching the TV show.

And I actually reference it a lot because basically, I doubt you're going to watch it.

It's about this guy, Fleischman.

He's like leaving his naggy bitch wife.

He's in trouble.

He's in trouble.

He's leaving his wife.

She's like a bitch.

He's taking the kids.

And, oh, it's so hard for Fleischman.

And he works so hard.

And it's so sad.

And his wife is so mean.

And it's like six episodes of Fleischman trying to to like navigate divorce and his wife like kind of like goes off the grid.

And then we get one episode from the wife's point of view.

Oh, I love it.

It was amazing.

Oh, I love it.

I love.

I always just like reference like things can be very Fleischman, where like if you talk to this one person, it's like so sad and his wife is so mean and Fleischman is so bad.

And then like when you talk to his wife, it's like, seriously, fuck Fleischman.

Jackie.

I think we need to add that to our list of theories, the Fleischman theory, where it's like, you're the problem.

I love that.

Yeah, no, or like you, it depends depends who you're sitting down with.

Right.

Because at the end of the series, like, his best friend, who's played by Janice Ian, who was there for him the entire show, she's in all the previous episodes, like, she's his friend listening to him, feeling sorry for him.

And then the last episode, she runs into the wife in the park and gets her side of the story.

Got it, got it.

I mean, history is written by the victors.

Yeah.

So

I.

I didn't like the show because it was a little bit insufferable, but like I enjoyed the premise and I thought it was pretty smart.

So I was like, oh, oh, Dana read her next book and she said it was really good.

Okay, but honestly, I'm 10% in and I've had the thought a lot of times like Dana like this book so much.

Oh my God, it's just horrible.

It is, I think it's so bad for our people.

Like I find, I actually found it offensive.

I agree.

And if you told me that like an undercover anti-Semite wrote this book, I would believe you.

Yeah, so that makes me feel better in terms of not finishing it because also I'm like bumping into like Redheads recording next week.

I got to start the Redheads book.

Which I've heard is amazing, by the the way.

I know.

I'm so excited.

We're reading Husbands and Lovers by Beatriz Williams.

And the thing is, if I loved this book I'm reading right now, I could plow through it and finish it with plenty of time to read Redhead's book.

But this is going to be like a three-week endeavor.

So I think that's why, hence why I deleted my story, because I was like, actually, maybe I'm not currently reading this book.

No, this book tore my book club, burnt my book club to the ground.

We're not even meeting this month.

That's how bad that book was, okay?

Wow.

And I don't even know if everybody agrees with my reasons for hating it, but obviously everybody hated it too.

They literally didn't finish it.

It's just so chewy.

Like so many words.

Get an editor.

Okay.

And I don't need to hear every, I feel this way about a lot of books.

Like I don't need to hear every semi-interesting thought you think you've ever had in your life.

Like pare it down.

Yeah, a thousand percent.

I'm so glad.

It's so chewy.

I'm so glad I was able to stop you.

Like.

I can't believe you even knew what that book was.

I know.

I thought that's the story you were responding to, but I was like, there's no way.

It's horrible.

You should watch Fleischmann.

I should.

It's a win for the Naggy Bitch Wives, even though, oh, by the way, I just kind of like gave the whole thing away.

Yeah, right, right.

I bet like watching it was a fun experience.

Thanks.

Yeah.

Except it's also about, you know, character development.

Whatever.

Classic.

So many things to discuss.

One, we would be absolutely remiss, devastated, and heartbroken if we didn't wish a huge basaltov to our TNN star, Shannon Ford, who got married over the weekend in Positana.

Like, so sick.

I need her to post more pictures.

So sick she looked.

So sick.

The way every few hours I was like going back to Shannon's Instagram to see if she had like posted new content.

And Queen, like, we ate.

She was feeding us.

She knew everyone was waiting and she wasn't being annoying, like holding back.

Yeah, no, she was doing it.

But you also know she's like busy on the dance floor.

She can only like post so much in the moment, but she was giving us like what we needed.

Like we needed to see the dress.

We absolutely did.

Then she was reposting like other people's stories.

And today, obviously, like she sat down in front of her desktop and is getting to work on giving us all the content.

1000%.

On her desktop on a sailboat, I believe she's on on the Mu'alfi coast.

Thank you, ma'am, for the Lord's work.

You looked so gorgeous and just a shining star here at Toast Dudes Network.

No, I literally, I was teary.

She posted one photo and I seriously, like, had tears in my eyes.

Just she looked so happy, so beautiful.

She's such a great person.

Like, I'm so like proud of myself to call her a friend.

So true.

Like, she's just such a wonderful person.

And she likes us.

And yeah, no, that's what I mean, like proud of myself that I like could be a friend to a girl like you.

She stayed at your house.

She stayed at my house, right?

She gave me shingles.

Like, I love her.

Right, right, right, right, right.

So

huge mouthful, like truly.

And, you know, kind of the rumor mill was ablaze.

Like, like, dirty, why weren't you there?

Like, everyone was talking about me.

And yeah.

Same year, same year.

Yeah, we had a falling out with Shannon.

Like, it's really bad.

Like, we're not friends anymore.

People were saying too, like, she stayed at your house.

Like, why didn't you go to her wedding?

And it was because she gave me shingles.

Right, right.

Like, you drew the line at shingles.

No, I actually had so much going on this weekend.

I went to a wedding last night.

Like, it was just kind of a, you know, I don't think I've been to a wedding, a Jewish wedding.

I actually have not been to a wedding wedding in a really long time but i haven't been to a jewish wedding since october 7th and let me tell you they hit different oh my god at the end of the ceremony they played the national anthem the hatikvah israeli national anthem not a dry eye in the house nice touch really nice touch i liked it i was like i want to get remarried so i can do that like and they had this beautiful choir i was like seriously and you know like you're sitting at a ceremony you're hot you're like ready for the bar to open like you're ready oh i was sat well i was standing but you know what i mean emotionally i was sat beautiful really classy touch beautiful weekend for weddings i feel like this also was the 21st of september as i learned from shannon's stories like do you remember which is such a wedding song for a wedding on september 21st yeah so just kind of like big weekend oh and i also wanted to talk about like shout out wanted to send love to to bridget who shared if you guys know bridget from the bar she's like the creator of the bar she's also like a huge content creator who had the sickest wedding on the planet she shared on instagram yesterday that she was diagnosed with breast cancer and she just shared this like really raw emotional video.

I was shocked.

I think we've all been following her journey to getting pregnant.

She's been like super vulnerable, like posting in real time everything that's been going on.

And oh my god, I was so sad for her.

And I know she like listens to this show sometimes.

So I just want to like send her the biggest hug.

I felt so sad watching her video.

You could tell she was like processing the whole, like this huge piece of news in real time.

Yeah, I feel like so many people love her and are connected to like her and her content.

She's a great like creator in that sense where it really feels like you know her.

I mean, I feel like we know her and we've never met her.

Yeah.

So it was just like so, so sad to see.

And like, I think everyone who knows her is just like wishing her the best, praying for her and like sending her so much love, wrapping their arms around her.

Totally.

So, so are we.

So, so are we.

I like that saying.

I, by the way, I like that saying.

I also like the saying, because people said this to me when I was dealing with like Theo.

They were like, Trudy, we're lifting you up in prayer.

And I think it's like a Christian thing, but like everyone prays.

I love it.

Like I think they pray.

they give you prayer so you can lift or they say like we're wrapping you in our prayers like it's so lovely it's a warm hug it's a warm hug i'm olaf i like warm hugs you are olaf and you do like warm hugs i do not like warm hugs let me tell you that i like a proverbial warm hug she likes a practical warm hug stiff

handshake and keep it cold

I want a cold hand.

I do not want to shake a warm hand.

How about the stories today, by the way?

The stories are really good.

Some of them are actually like really toast-coated, I would say.

Like really important that we address certain things.

Maybe another show, like in a good way.

I'm actually really excited to get your

thoughts on

things.

Oh, John Malani, but that's universe.

That's for everyone.

You know, John Malani's super fan over here.

Yeah, no, but that's for everyone.

That's like the top story for all the pop culture girlies today.

I think wherever you get your pop culture news, like you would hear about that.

Some of the other things,

I don't know if they would get into it.

I don't know if you'd even expect it.

I'm dying to know what you're referring to now.

Should I give you guys a brief, like, I feel like that's a cute idea.

At the top of the show, why don't you say,

stay tuned for XYZ?

Okay.

Stay tuned for Hayden Penn and Thierry's take on her viral interview, Olivia Munn and John Mulaney's pregnancy.

I mean, baby announcement at this point.

A feud between sisters and sisters.

I know.

An influencer banned from TikTok.

We shall discuss.

And fans believing there is something going on between Sabrine or Camilla and Sean after all.

There is

after the break.

I love that.

Okay.

So I guess that now we have to get into it.

I guess.

Like we just sort of like cornered ourselves.

Okay.

Well, sure.

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Our first story.

So, Hayden Pennetier is addressing the People Magazine interview that we discussed last week that people thought was concerning and exploitative.

So, Hayden

was concerning and exploitative.

Well, you know, alleged.

It's all alleged.

I guess.

Hayden took to Instagram.

She posted a garchy-parchy photo of herself, and she said, I would like to take a moment to address the controversy surrounding an interview I recently completed with People Magazine.

It's unfathomable that I'm even in this position, but but I feel forced to address it in a space where I won't be criticized for how fast or slow I speak.

I hadn't slept for two days prior to the shoot due to one of my dogs who was recovering from an emergency surgical procedure.

It was an eight-hour shoot followed by an on-camera interview that was supposed to last for one hour.

The interview started really well and for the record, its beginning is not included in the version of People Magazine that they posted.

So she's saying like they took out the good part.

I was exhausted.

My reps stopped the interview early as it became obvious that I was fading, especially as the subject matter became heavier.

We asked the interview if we could redo it another day or a follow-up interview on Zoom.

She assured us that it wasn't necessary and that she felt it was an emotional and heartfelt interview.

We were also told they would edit it and that it would be a beautiful piece.

The magazine does not grant approval for images or videos interviews before they run.

We see the interview when it goes live.

Yeah, so she's kind of corroborating what we all said.

It was exploitative.

Yes, but I feel like she's also like not exactly saying like shame on people magazine while she's also like holding space for like shame on this process and also like anyone who had anything negative to say.

And I just want to say, like, I'm sure there were negative comments.

Probably there always are, but like, the overwhelming amount of comments, and especially the top comments, were like, this is wrong.

Hayden, we love you.

Like,

take your time.

Like, we're rooting for you.

Yeah, they were in defense of her.

I do feel like this is one time where it's like, it's, it wasn't her being criticized by people, lower, by lowercase P people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I feel like she taps people yeah she probably misunderstood like the backlash but also you have to think about because we were saying like you know the amount of people that made this possible especially people that work for her managers publicists who sat by and watch us like are those people also running her social media right because they're like hey we pulled her out when she got tired because i feel like one of my takeaways after seeing the interview was like the people who are surrounding Hayden Panetira are BFAs, bad faith actors.

And are those people also writing captions for her social media?

perhaps, but I do like want to operate under the guise that this is her.

Otherwise, like, what are we even talking about?

It's just like a bunch of people, BFAs, talking to each other.

And then she also said this: grief looks different on everyone.

Whether or not I'm on medication is none of anyone's business and is in between me and my doctor.

I'm doing interviews to promote my new film because I'm proud of it.

The real issue here is the toxicity of social media and a news cycle that is driven by clickbait.

Mental health is so important.

I hope those reading this now understand that you say hiding behind a computer screen can have a detrimental impact on someone.

For those of you who have come to my defense amidst this chaos, I am so grateful.

So like that's the piece where it's like, I don't know how many like keyboard warriors this was about.

Like this was really about People magazine.

Yeah, obviously, but her caption is sort of directed at like haters where there aren't any.

Like I'm sure, yeah, there's a couple.

There always are.

But it's like a weird response.

It's like sort of kind of entirely missing the point.

And she's right.

Like her being medicated is between her and her doctor.

But, you know, it's, it's natural for people who care about her to be concerned because she has, you know, publicly spoken about her struggles with addiction.

So I feel like confused.

Yeah.

It's an odd response.

It's it's like hey

X and then she says, okay, why?

Like who is she mad at?

I know who I'm mad at.

Like who is she

mad at?

Sounds like she was taking it out like on the comment section, whereas the comment section from where I stood was fiercely in defense of her.

Yeah.

At least chop comments, and those are the ones most popular, most hearted.

Maybe if you scroll all the way down, people would say, I have something mean to say they always do, but like that wasn't the

appears as though she misunderstood the saga.

Maybe.

And I think she was trying to also explain her performance in the interview.

Like that's why you see me.

Being this way, I was just like very tired.

Well, the thing is with the dogs, like it's it's giving dog a my homework, you know?

What is like objection relevance?

she was tired and so her eyes are closing she's falling asleep okay

okay you know yeah yeah

okay

well I wonder what her new movie is because that point was missed and as always like the toast stands with Hayden Panetir like the toast

is wrapping her in prayer and lifting her up.

I love this woman.

And I don't feel like she wrote this caption.

I'm sorry.

Or like she wrote the first draft and then the BFAs came in and said, like, you're not putting this on us, Hayden.

Took, like, did a once-over.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know if she has access to like posts, press posts on her own Instagram.

Right.

But I also don't follow her closely enough to say if she behaves in a way that looks like it's her.

Like, does she do stories?

No.

Right, right.

Like, what is her relationship with her social media prior to this?

It doesn't look like she's

running it herself.

Yeah.

Okay.

I think the movie's called Amber Alert.

Chilling.

Yeah.

Well, sending love to Hayden as always.

As always.

Nothing's changed there.

For us.

Are you ready for our next story?

Wherein some things have changed for Olivia Munn and John Mulaney because they've welcomed another baby via surrogate after Olivia Munn's breast cancer journey.

So Olivia Munn and John Mulaney are parents again.

They took to Instagram on Sunday to announce the arrival of their daughter who was born via surrogate.

They said, said, My June Mulaney came into the world September 14th, 2024, the year of the dragon.

The Instagram caption announced.

It's May.

She said in the caption, it's pronounced M-A-Y.

Apologies.

Pirates.

I love these two.

You can never make me hate these two.

And they tried, and they tried, and they tried.

And it's really like a beautiful ending because she also had shared that she had hysterectomy due to her health issues.

Obviously, she had major surgeries with her breast cancer, hysterectomy being one of them.

So, to be able to welcome a baby via surrogate is such a blessing when maybe they thought that this would never happen for them.

So, I love them.

And the other kid's name is Malcolm.

So, Malcolm and May, like, so cute.

So cute.

I love that she is so like into her heritage.

And he talked a lot about that when I saw him live perform in the Hamptons, about how

and he was making so many funny jokes about like his in-laws and like, you know, their customs.

They live with him.

Her mother lives with him, but also they always just have like a million family members coming through the house.

And he was saying how, you know, they're very direct in their questions.

And it was very respectful, but still really funny.

And I just, like, I just fucking love these two.

Okay.

Sorry.

And I, and I have from the beginning.

I'm not one of these like bandwagoners who are like, oh, well, now that they have a family, like they're really cute.

Like for me, like obsessed from day one.

No, and for me, these two fall into a list or a category that I would say of like two people who individually I didn't give much thought to, but together as a couple, I love.

And not to bring him into it because he is her ex, but like coincidentally, Aaron Rodgers and Shaylene Woodley also fall into that category.

Yeah, no, and their place in Hollywood and in entertainment is infatuated.

What's the word I'm looking for?

I was gonna say interesting, fat.

I was gonna say interesting and fascinating.

It's fascinating, of course, the Anna Marie Tenler of it all.

Like, oh my God, the lore there goes on for years.

Like, the thing is,

like, I'm not on the Anna Marie Tenler.

Oh, the cruise ship of discovery.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

I stayed there.

Like, I know, because I think the way people, like,

talk about them and then, like, how her behavior was on the internet shortly after was so crazy.

Like, to me, it's sort of one of my Roman Empires.

And I didn't even care about them when they were together.

For a lot of people, it is.

For me, it's just like another guy who like, you know, split with his wife and moved on.

Right.

No, and it sucks.

It sucks.

And one day we're going to tell a story about John Malani and Olivia Munn, and we're not going to bring up AMT.

I don't know that we are.

I wouldn't make a promise.

Claudia, one day.

One day

you will.

Oh, I was like, what song?

It took me like a minute to get there.

I think it's called One Day You Will.

I thought you were going to say, one day,

Matisiaho, one day,

one day.

Also a good one.

Also a good one.

No, but one day we will.

Today's not that day, apparently.

And tomorrow won't be either.

No, no, but like one day in the future, A-M-T-Who?

Right.

And I love that Olivia Munn like got into this relationship and just, like, I just love like that she like doesn't work.

She's a mom.

He makes so much money.

I, and every time they share like a little glimpse of their life, like he, she had posted a couple of pictures.

announcing the birth and then like you saw obviously that they live on the water like obsessed like is that their house in front of his balcony at his comedy show he said he lives in orange county so you can live on the water and i guess like the baby in his arms is literally a few days old like where they go you wouldn't yeah yeah you wouldn't be at like a hotel unless they like went to give be with near the surrogate when she gave birth and they're unless the surrogate lives in like atlantic beach and that's the the pacific you know the atlantic excuse me

that would be crazy that would be crazy but i assume the surrogate lived in california

Yeah, well, definitely probably in California because they have like good laws for surrogacy.

A lot of people.

Exactly.

Go there.

If If you live in California, you wouldn't need to leave state for a surrogate.

It's like a good environment for surrogacy.

I think if you want to become a surrogate, you might live in California for the opportunity.

Because you're the elk of a dreamer.

You are the elk of the elk.

Buy a lotto ticket.

Whilst pregnant.

I'm so happy for these two.

I love them.

I definitely feel like the temperature on the culture, like people like them a lot now.

But I'm proud to say, like, I liked them from day one.

I wasn't, like, up in arms when this happened.

I'm proud to say I wasn't up in arms.

Yeah, and I usually am.

Like, I love to be up in arms.

It's kind of one of my favorite places to be.

Except when other people are up in arms, then you don't want to be up in arms.

No, when everyone's up in arms, like, I love to not be because I'm so chill.

You love to lay down in your arms.

You look like clowns, and I'm over here just being, like, at peace.

Yeah.

Well, that's actually a great segue into our next story.

So even though I tease the stories in a certain way, I'm going to move some things around because it's...

speaking to a theme about something people are up in arms about on both sides of the coin.

Yes.

An influencer has been banned from TikTok over her dangerous weight loss advice.

So an influencer named Liv Schmidt was recently banned from TikTok for sharing controversial weight loss advice and she's clapping back after her content was labeled dangerous and harmful.

She had recently amassed a following of almost 700,000 people with her videos that experts and dietitians have described as demonstrating an unhealthy devotion to being thin.

Critics argued that she was glamorizing eating disorders by emphasizing it is important to stay skinny, and they called for her work to be removed.

TikTok has since taken action, shutting down her account and stating she violated community guidelines with her disordered eating posts.

While many applauded the move, the influencer Liv Schmidt, who lives in New York, has been quick to defend her controversial advice for garnering widespread outrage.

She said, for me and my personal aesthetic, I like to be skinny and there's nothing wrong with that.

She said, weight is a touchy subject, but that's what the viewers want.

She also claimed her desire to save America from obesity one person at a time.

That was her bio in her now-deleted TikTok.

So I just want to say really quickly before we get into like the thoughts on banning her,

I had heard about this girl on TikTok.

Not for her content never once came up on my page.

Every influencer on the planet was like making videos of them like eating lunch and being like, eating for Liv Schmidt.

Like they like, seriously, they didn't actually say that.

You know what I mean?

But all these other content creators who were seemingly offended by her content for whatever reasons and that valid or not, like

they made her famous.

I had never heard of this girl until everyone was like rebutting and responding to her content.

So I had heard of her one time.

Made her huge.

I just want to say I heard of her one time before this, and it was because it was someone else like talking about her.

And I think knowing the way that TikTok works and knowing like this isn't the sort of content that TikTok wants

platform, they definitely like weren't pushing her in the algorithm.

So that's probably why you didn't see her, but why you saw other influencers like with an opposite take?

That was fed to you.

No pun intended.

The thing about her content, I don't, like it was very, like, it was, that's the perfect way.

I forget what you just read, like this obsession with being thin.

Like, and it was very like Amin Mom, early 90s toxicity, like shit you would hear, like back in the day.

Now, in terms of her content, did I find it offensive?

No.

Was it, did I ever feel compelled to follow?

No, like it wasn't for me.

And that's totally fine.

There's a lot of content on the internet that is not for you.

I think the concept of getting rid of her profile, first of all, makes it bigger.

Like now we are giving a bigger platform to her philosophy.

Look, we're talking about it.

So I think it's ineffective.

I think it actually has an opposite sort of effect.

You always empower people that way.

And two, like, while I think the content was like kind of crazy, I don't think she should have been banned.

I think that's like the opposite of this great country, you know?

Yeah, I agree.

I think we see a lot of problematic content on TikTok or hear about a lot of problematic content on TikTok and like problematic trends that are emerging, you know, the simping for Osama bin Laden being one of them.

No, I wish TikTok had been as swift in, you know, banning anti-Semitic accounts or bigoted accounts or rape.

Like there are so many people.

If you're going to like let everyone like run rampant and say what they want, then like, why are you going to ban this person?

Because she violates a community guideline about promoting disordered eating.

That's such a vague term.

And I can think of so many other content creators who promote disordered eating in other ways that are not banned.

Well, you do have to then also think about the opposite side of the spectrum and i i don't know if you know who nico avocado is no i'm i i have a feeling i'm about to find out so nico avocado was like a mook bang is excuse me a mook banger

and there's this mook bang is a disordered eating content of course it is and so fitting and binging in your car going to multiple places he took it to an extreme where like he was you know making videos collabing with other people and then he um

just sort of became this like homebody who did these huge and he eventually as of like a couple of months ago I think gained I want to say two to three hundred pounds like there were these before and afters very average looking person and then in a matter of years due to your job and people were like well this is so sad like Mookbang culture has gone too far and actually a recent update in the Nico Avocado saga is that apparently for the last year he'd been posting old pre-recorded videos and he posted that he actually has lost all the weight and he posted a new video like I'm back which is also unhealthy to like go up in hundreds of pounds and down but he's like a celebrity.

No one has really ever said this is problematic.

Like, and so to

censor one side of the coin and not the other, that's unfair too.

That's wrong.

It's wrong.

So

I don't know.

And this is how I always feel about like any content on the internet.

Like if you don't like it, don't engage with it.

That's totally fine.

There's people, I mean, think about politics, like people who post about politics on the internet, complete opposite sides of the spectrum, but that's their, you know, right to do so.

And they're, they're opposing things on the internet.

And that's kind of what makes the internet fun sometimes is that like there are crazy, you know, outlandish things being said on all sides about every topic.

Yeah.

And the thing is, like, if you want to censor speech, which I think in general, we're pro-free speech girlies, but if you're going to censor speech, say, this is a perfect example around disordered eating, then, then it needs to be all disordered eating, not just like one kind that you don't like.

Because the guy that you just explained to me actually sounds like a worse influence.

What he did was more unhealthy than this girl girl trying to stay skinny.

Yeah.

And then there actually, a lot of people are bringing up Eugenia, who I'm sure you don't know.

She is a active influencer on all platforms, TikTok included, with like almost a million followers who actively has anorexia.

And she is, she probably weighs like 75 pounds.

Anytime she's come up on my, it's actually jarring to see.

So that's okay, right?

Just and she doesn't talk about she does like dances and stuff.

She does like influencery type things.

She doesn't talk.

So she's just like skinny and dancing.

Yeah.

And so she should be banned for the way she looks.

If someone who was morbidly obese got banned for dancing being unhealthy weight, you'd be mad for that too.

So why should Eugenia be banned?

No, no, she shouldn't.

But people are saying like,

why is Eugenia different than Liv Schmidt?

Like why has Liv Schmidt Liv Schmidt has sort of become this like villain?

of some sort of movement because all the influencers like on social media decided they didn't they didn't like what she posted and they started posting about her.

But there are other people like Liv Schmidt, I would say even more crazy than Liv Schmidt, on, you know, on obesity side, on anorexic side, who have not, they have yet to ever remove someone's entire profile because of their weight stuff.

So why now?

Why this Liv Schmidt?

No, why?

Like Liv Schmidt is kind of becoming like a face of some sort of movement.

And I think it's because she looks like a lot of influencers that you follow, but she says stuff that they don't say.

And all these other influencers, like they made her huge.

They don't even realize what they did.

And what's so funny is what you just said.

She looks like all these other influencers that you follow.

So it's like all those other, a lot of those other influencers probably have a similar

they want to be thin.

They work out.

They eat very healthy.

They sometimes probably do disordered eating where they're like, skip lunches.

When she said it's important to stay skinny, they probably feel that way too.

Of course.

It's a part of their job.

And like, you want to work in fashion?

You want to go to fashion shows?

Hi, hello.

I used to be like huge, and I could tell you the opportunities you get as a skinny influencer versus the opportunities you get as a fat influencer are completely different.

And you get more as a skinny influencer, especially in the fashion space.

Yeah.

So yeah, she's saying the quiet part out loud.

Right.

No, I don't think that's worthy of a ban in a space that like doesn't ban actually horrible people.

It's really crazy that they banned her.

Yeah.

And they've oddly like made her a hero because she shouldn't have been banned.

Yeah, they've made her a hero.

Like here I am, Liv Schmidt.

Supporting her.

And I'm telling you, I don't know.

The way they talk about her, it was like she was live streaming from the toilet, making herself throw up.

That's not what she was doing.

She was just saying like snarky things about like wanting to be skinny.

It's nothing you haven't heard in every like 90s rom-com.

And then are there influencers who were talk who used to talk about her content?

Like, are they talking out the band, like supporting her being?

Oh, I haven't seen that yet.

I'm sure that they are.

Because seriously, like,

that's insane.

No, they made this girl a star.

Yeah.

And yes, she doesn't look that different.

No, but if your job is content creation, like you should see the value in in a platform that like

uplifts free speech.

And sure, maybe on this one, like your cause won, but like you're just like welding the bat that would eventually bring you down too.

It's really crazy to ban someone on social media.

Like sometimes I'm like scrolling Instagram live.

There are people like cleaning their AR-15s, whatever it's called, AK-47.

I thought you were going to say

people cleaning their

arses.

By the way, there's that too.

Do you know how much porn I get tagged in on on Instagram?

Like, it's absurd.

They care about that.

When you think about the things that don't get banned, Osama bin Laden, Gate of 2023.

Right.

But Liv Schmidt, this little girl who just like wants to be stupid.

It's so crazy and it is absurd.

And it's wrong because they're, it was a bad move because when they're...

making her bigger when they wanted to silence her.

And two, you're making her out to be a hero.

And I believe that the platform was already silencing her in the ways that a platform can, you know, like not on people's

content.

You have to follow her in order to see herself.

Shadow banning sort of stuff because they do verify.

They're not like platforming her.

Like, so I feel like some people, they like want to blow up.

They push.

Yeah, they push and she was not getting the push.

And I feel like that's a good way of

tamping down content that might be harmful.

So maybe don't feed Liv Schmidt to 13-year-old girls.

Right.

No, it's just, I find it interesting that TikTok now has like a vested vested interest in the well-being of society because up until this point, it's been abundantly clear that they don't.

No, when everyone runs around Instagram and TikTok like pretending to be a nutritionist,

for good or for better or for worse, right?

I get a lot of like really great content.

A lot of the people that I actually am influenced by aren't dieticians and that's fine.

I think a lot of dietitians are really great and some of them are probably like ineffective too.

Why Liv Schmidt?

Like she's certainly not like the biggest one doing it.

No, and like at the end of the day, nothing she said was like illegal or hate speech.

Like, and I think disordered eating is a really

big term.

It's a big

umbrella term.

Like, I had said vague, but it's not vague.

It's, it's just, it could mean so many different things.

It's a spectrum.

It's a spectrum.

Yes, exactly.

And so I think there are people, especially like from the ED community, who have a really loose term of what they would consider to be disordered eating.

But that's because they are, you know, vulnerable to that.

And that's totally valid, but that's on them.

And that's part of their community.

And that's something they need to look out for when they

surf the interwebs.

You need to be very, you need to protect yourself.

Everybody has their own triggers, right?

But that doesn't mean that other people should be silenced to protect your triggers.

Accommodate you.

I agree.

Are there ways for you to put terms into your for you page that you don't want to see?

Yes.

That sounds like a good tool for people who have triggers.

You know, I had to put TikTok Shop in my band because I couldn't deal with TikTok until you dropped.

No.

Oh my God.

The content content was just like so.

I wasn't getting anyone's organic content.

When you promote products on TikTok shop, you make money.

So the most annoying fucking content.

You have to get this hair curl.

Like, shut up.

Oh, my God.

I put hashtag TikTok shop in my band.

I thought you were shopping too much.

Like me at HomeGoods.

Did you hear on Saturday?

Like we all went to HomeGoods.

We took two cars so that Zach could keep his empty so I could load up.

I heard, I read about it in PageTech.

Said the whole crew went to HomeGoods.

We all went.

And yeah, no, I got my chairs.

I got my vases.

Of course, as I was leaving, I saw some things I'll have to go back for.

Classic.

Classic.

But it was a very successful jaunt.

So that's kind of like, that's kind of my TikTok shop.

Right, right, right.

I do feel like anything from TikTok shop that you just described, like you can get it HomeGoods.

You can literally get it on Amazon.

You could get it from Alibaba.

Everything is like dropshipping from China.

What I love about HomeGoods, it's the closest thing that I've seen to Amazon IRL.

Yeah, I think what people like about HomeGoods is that it's, you know, a pottery bar and a crate and barrel in a much more affordable sense.

Like the availability of it.

The things that I bought at HomeGoods are things that I would typically buy on Amazon, but the experience of going to Amazon, that's really, so it's not like I was like missing out on finding like great things for my kitchen or like, but to shop for those things in person is more fun.

I also think HomeGoods is a little bit better quality than Amazon.

Amazon obviously has like that sort of like made-in-China vibe.

No, and HomeGoods, you can see the scale of things.

The issue with Amazon, you want to order a vase, it's this big.

You want to order a rug, all of a sudden, you got a sample.

You guys ever order like an outdoor chair and it's actually for a dog?

Like it's tiny.

That's happened to me.

Right.

That can't happen at HomeGoods.

It's so true.

Are you ready for our next story?

Whatever?

Four.

No.

It's a little sister drama, so we definitely should take our time.

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Our next story is some sister drama.

Trigger warning for us.

Tamara Mari says, it's just hard to say.

that just but it's without saying tia tamara i know but tamara of tian tamara says she didn't know about her sister tia's new reality show and will likely not be involved.

So Tamara revealed that she found out with the rest of the world about her twin sister Tia's upcoming reality series on WeTV titled Tia Maori, My Next Act, due on October 4th.

So Tia and Tamara are from sister-sister, you know, corners

of our childhood, iconic duo, iconic sisters, and clearly these days they're not speaking much to the point that one doesn't know that the other has a reality show.

The chronically online community has long suspected that these two have

had some sort of fracture in their relationship, but this is the first like real confirmation we've ever gotten.

And

Tia is like being extremely direct.

I think it was with Entertainment Tonight.

She was on a red carpet and she was asked about it.

She was like, I had no idea.

Yeah, she said Tia is living her life right now and Tia is doing Tia.

When they brought up the show in the interview, she said, I didn't know.

I didn't know until.

Tia is doing the show or Tamara is doing the show?

Tamara is doing the show.

No, Tia is doing the show.

Tamara's talking to Entertainment Tonight.

Okay.

And Tamara had said, I didn't know.

I didn't know until I found out with the rest of the world and rolled her eyes about the fact that Tia is doing the show.

But I also feel like there's definitely a fracture, like you said, but not the burn it all down type of like

because she's trying to

keep a lid on it.

Like, oh, I didn't know.

You know, Tia's doing Tia.

Like, not.

But then she also said, like, Tia's at a place in her life where she doesn't want input from me.

Not a place in a place in my life.

life.

Now, actually, shockingly, people on the internet, and this has been like a theory for a while that has like no bearing on reality, but this is just what the streets are saying, that a lot of their fracture had to do with Tia.

Okay, so Tia is divorced.

Yes.

So here's the description, by the way, for her new show.

Tia, the show will follow Tia as she experiences life on her own, separate from her sister, with whom she has grown up in the public eye, and newly divorced from her ex-husband and fellow actor, Corey Hardricht, with whom she.

I just want to say it's actually a a good time for her to have a reality show.

Like, there's a lot going on in her life.

Yeah, but even the description of the show says, like, separate from her sister.

Right.

And it's crazy that her sister didn't even know that the show was happening.

Also, I feel as though if we want to know more about what happened, there will be crumbs at least in the show because it's a show about her.

But people have suspected that their fracture actually had a lot to do with politics.

Interesting.

Isn't that interesting?

But that's just a theory.

Which one's which?

I think they thought that like Tia was like conservative and Tamara was liberal honestly like that's just a theory there's i just like watch tick tocks of people saying that i can't stress how little factual evidence there is one of them on a show like a talking head

show yes the real right which one tamara tamara and and was it liberal

well they well they did mostly like human interest and but no like no that's not like what could have said

so the theories was like that her ex-husband like indoctrinated her and like.

T.S.F.

You got to say used names.

Sorry, sorry.

Yeah, this is just theories.

Like seriously, I can't stress enough how not true.

I'm not indoctrinated her to be what?

A Republican?

Yeah.

Oh, no.

But again, like.

I got to search the husband now, the indoctrinator.

The indoctrination

actor.

So we should know who he is.

Well, I think that like the whole thing is that.

He looks familiar.

He was in TNT Mara.

You're lying.

Corey Hardricht.

Oh, he's cute.

He was an American sniper.

Cracking up.

He was in.

Do you ever hear about this movie called Karen?

I did with

Tarin.

Taryn Manning, my colleague.

He was in Karen.

I don't think that was like...

Wasn't that like a liberal movie?

The thing is,

this is not.

I just don't think it's so cut and dry, you guys.

No, I don't think so either.

How are you in American Sniper and Karen?

So true.

One's like a movie for conservatives.

It's so true.

And like, where does Taj fall in all this, you know, their younger brother?

Classic younger brother.

It's Frankie Jonas, you know?

Yeah, I wonder if he's taken a side.

Let me look at this.

I could see him like being in the show, like coming over.

He's on a show on Disney Plus.

So happy for him.

And he mostly, oh, wait, here's the most recent picture with, which twin is it?

Tamara.

It's sort of like

Tia's like on an island of her own.

Yeah, well, Tia says in a teaser for the series, being alone has been the most challenging part of my divorce.

It's times like this when I feel and wish that my sister and I were still close and I could pick up the phone and call her, but that's just not where we are right now.

Okay, wait, I just want to investigate one more thing.

In Tamara's Instagram bio, it says that she is like, she just puts at sister wine.

Do you think they're in business together?

No, but also, Tia saying we're not close.

Like,

that doesn't give like end of work or end of days

never coming back from this.

Like, I could see

a season two reunion for Tia and Tamara, especially if the ex-husband was what was coming between them a little bit.

Okay, I'm like seriously confused.

It's a lot.

By the way, maybe Tamara was the conservative and Tia was the liberal.

I don't, don't quote me.

I'm not sure.

That is so funny.

I actually think that's a decent theory, not because I know anything about the two of them, but because I think that that could come with a lot of families and friends.

Yeah.

It's polarizing times, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like, okay, so now I'm looking at Tamara's social media and I don't see like an endorsement or anything, you know?

Do you see an endorsement from Tia?

I'm on my way.

And I just want to say, I feel like if politics are such a big part of their lives that they can't even like be sisters, then they probably are posting about it.

So if they're not posting about it, then I don't think it was politics that came between them.

Okay, let me see, let me see, let me see.

But I just want to say they're both like fabulous content creators, like really premium.

They obviously like make reels with their families.

They cook.

Yum.

By the way, I don't see anything.

I don't think it's political then.

Plus, if Tamara was the one on the reel, like, I don't think,

I don't think she'd be the conservative.

I don't know.

Oh, wait.

Two days ago, Tia Maori posted, like, something about sister-sister.

Tia.

Tia.

Because Tia's kind of the one that's like on the outs.

On the outs, yes.

Because Taj and Tamara are hanging out yeah

I bet they have like a Reddit where like they this is all everything yeah well I mean we should just watch the show

honestly I'm down yeah no now I'm I'm curious yeah

our fifth and final story is that is for Claudia my theory that I had heard about politics like is actually me now I'm feeling like I'm I'm like I feel bad for saying because I don't know that it's true I feel like it was a good idea I feel like I maybe maybe got the wrong one as like a liberal and a conservative.

Well, we definitely covered all the bases and we and we IDE'd it as if either one was either one.

It's a good guess.

We'll see.

Yeah.

There's like really more damning things you could have said.

No, of course, of course.

It's so true.

And it's just what people on TikTok are saying.

And we do need to know like what the, what the smoke is.

Who's who?

No, that's not what I meant.

Actually, if that's why they split up, we do need to know who's who.

But I said, we do need to know like what the smoke is.

Like what people, what are people saying is the reason?

Right, right, right.

Our fifth and final story is for you and you alone, because fans believe that Camilla Cabello shaded Sabrina Carpenter weeks after

Sabrina performed Taste in front of her at the VMAs.

So

Camilla Cabello took the stage at the iHeart Radio Music Festival and she performed her hit song, Senorita.

Just as she reached the line, but friends don't know the way you taste,

she paused dramatically on the word taste.

Of course, Sabrina penned the song Taste, which is about a,

not a menage to a love triangle.

And I guess people speculated that it's about Sean, Camilla, and Sabrina.

And now thinking back to the music video, people are saying like Jenna Ortega was playing Camilla.

Okay, by the way, they're saying Tamara on Reddit.

I just have to check.

They're saying Tamara.

wants to make America great again and Tia does not.

But Tamara was on the reel wanting to make America great again?

This is just what people on Reddit are saying.

I had to take to Reddit.

You had to, for the truth.

For the truth.

Okay, I just wanted to put to bed.

Like, I knew my theory.

Like, I and then I started gaslighting to myself.

I'm like, wait, maybe I never saw that theory.

Got it.

Okay.

So stay tuned on that.

Stay tuned.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Camilla, the thing is, is right now,

Camilla shouldn't have said anything because right now, you're not going to win.

A couple of years ago, Camilla had her big pop star moment that like launched her career, right?

Havana Una.

Besties with Taylor Swift, yada, yada.

Sabrina's currently having that moment.

And like people, the public's not going to turn on Sabrina and they're not going to make Sabrina the villain in this, even if she is, you know?

I don't think she did anything because I don't think anything happened here.

But I do think perhaps

Camilla saw an opportunity.

I think like, I didn't think, I think less that there's actual beef between these three now that like Camilla is sort of like playing the role of like, oh, I won't say taste because that's your song about our love triangle that you performed in front of me and my ex-man with your little smoochy lips.

With your little smoochy lips.

I think that she just like wants to get in the conversation.

And that's why she did this.

Yeah, I mean, this is a business.

Obviously, these are women in the arts, but these are also women in business.

And Camilla's been like teasing this really big, you know, music drop and this album and nobody moved you know it kind of kind of just

I don't want to say flopped but it did drop to make an impact

I don't know if even the whole album came out I actually think it did but like she's dropping new music and this is you know there was a time where Camille Kabayo could not release a song without it being like to the point where it was annoying how much it got played you know yeah

And that's obviously not the case for her anymore.

And so this is a business and everybody's talking about taste.

So let her, you know, do we discuss on the show?

Because I'm having deja vu a little bit, like about the possibility that taste is about Sabrina, Sean, and Camilla.

Obviously.

I don't know if we talked about it, but it is.

That's like and like Jen and Jenna or Tega playing Camilla in the music video.

It's Camilla.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's just sort of like, that's just not like a theory.

It's like kind of fact.

I just didn't think it was like that serious.

It wasn't in a real love triangle.

Well, the thing is is that sabrina and sean were like having this thing and next thing you know she opens her phone and that picture of camilla and sean at coachella she saw it with the rest of the world and she was like the fuck i thought i was seeing this guy yeah

and apparently like she's like when i think about the lyrics of taste they're just like so like pointed and like

mad deep like and also like deep like like that she spent like a lot of time with this person now he goes back to the like irrelevant and he tastes like her and it's like but she was kind of the irrelevant in this situation yeah but she's writing from her own perspective so she's the main character in it you know yeah i just it kind of like it takes away from the meaning of taste a little bit if it really is just about that well the thing is is that like for us the sean relationship was like non-existent short-lived we saw one photo right but i think there was much more lore there because a lot of the songs appear to be about him sharpest tool in the shed like obviously that's him also i think i was thinking about sabrina like how is she gonna get rid of barry kyogan now it's time for him to go i completely agree although they are back together, I think she like actually likes him.

He had like one movie and he was a big deal.

It's not the vibe.

It was a big deal for like a few months and that was good that she dated the big deal.

But like it's not going well for him.

Completely agree.

And I just like, I'm not into it visually, emotionally.

Like I'm not into it.

He's got a scram.

I completely agree.

When they broke up at the height of like her album being released, I was like, good girl, good girl.

But he sucked her back in.

Yeah, it's not going to work for me.

I feel like Sabrina is very moved by like physical touch is obviously her love language.

And I honestly feel like her and Barry Kyogan might have like an amazing physical connection.

And that's just sort of what's keeping her locked in.

I think there's plenty of guys she could have amazing physical connection with.

Of course.

So.

No, I don't think he's the one.

I don't think he's the one.

Like it was a moment in time and the moment's time's up.

And I loved that she was a part of that moment.

Yeah.

You know, the bathwater of it all.

But yeah, I'm in agreement.

G2G.

Do I want to know what the bathwater means?

There's like a scene in that movie that he was into.

I thought it was just his penis.

What about his penis?

Like, people were taking with his penis.

Yeah, he also like drinks someone's bathwater.

So I don't like him.

Oh, yeah.

Goes to that thing.

I didn't see that movie.

Oh, I need to talk to you.

Great.

We've only been talking for an hour.

How many years have you been trying to get me to do Dazzle Dry?

I started Dazzle Dry during COVID when I was doing my own nails.

So since 2024 years.

I am a gel nail girl through and through.

I can't get regular manicures because like regular polish,

SE OPI.

Like by the time I leave the salon, I have some sort of chill.

But Jackie, you know, you've been saying Dazzle Dry is different.

Dazzle Dry is different.

And I found myself at the nail salon a couple of days.

Actually, it was Tuesday.

I know for a fact it was Tuesday because I was getting a manicure for the weekend ahead for this wedding.

And I said, you know what?

I have the time today to sit and dry.

I actually had like an extra 20 minutes before Sodo Method.

I was like, you know what?

If there ever was a time, I'll do it.

And they had gorgeous colors.

Like the color I was looking for, big apple red, they literally had like a dupe.

Oh, that's so funny.

That's my only issue with Dazzle Dry is like the colors aren't competitive enough.

Oh, I had like three colors that I couldn't choose between.

There were too many options.

Let me tell you, I actually had to get a second manicure last.

Oh, no, I even did my own nails yesterday before this wedding because I couldn't walk around with these chipped red nails.

Every single

nail

with chip red nails.

Chipped.

Red is bad.

Chip.

By Friday, almost every nail had a chip.

By the day after the manicure, I had, I had a chip.

And I'm like, what the fuck?

I thought, oh, you know what?

Maybe I just like did something bad to that finger.

Yeah.

No, by the next day, it was deteriorating right in front of my eyes.

Never again.

So then I was left having to do my own nails yesterday.

I'm so sorry,

I'm going to Joe.

Go back to Joe.

Go use your little UV light.

Have fun.

I will.

Let me tell you, remember when we got pedicures for the beacon?

That was, what, August 1st?

I got a Dazzle Dry pedicure.

No chip.

It's two months.

Same, by the way.

I look like I have an inverted French tip because my

nails have grown so much.

I have pedicures because my toes start to hurt.

Like, not because my nails chipped.

No, 1,000%.

I still have the same pedicure as well.

But yours is gel.

I'm just saying mine's DD, double D.

Pedicures are are anyways if dazzle dry is not for you you definitely have to make concessions because there are so many great benefits to dazzle dry it's better nail polish for you it's like non-toxic

fast drying it's not as great as it's not it's not nail glue like gel is i it's not some things some things need to be toxic okay

i i personally disagree but that's what i love about this space like we can agree to disagree and like i'm not gonna push i i'd recommend a dazzle dry if you are looking for like a non-toxic nail polish.

And I do think it's better than like the crap regular nail polish in terms of chippage.

Yes.

That's been my personal experience.

Everyone's nails are different.

We're all different.

I can only give you my thoughts.

Take them or leave them.

A penny for your thoughts, Turdy.

Thank you.

That's what this show is.

A penny for your thoughts.

This show is just like a constant stream of consciousness of like

seriously the most important topics on the planet like what is going on between tea and tomira what is going on between jax and claude dazzle dry might come between i heard that there's like a fallout did you hear that is that what you just read on reddit yeah that's what the streets are saying imagine if we had a fallout what do you think like if we ever which we couldn't like we're just incapable but if you and i ever had like a relationship ending fight what do you think it would be over that's not what i thought you were going to say but the thing is i think when people's relationships end over a relationship ending fight like there's nothing worth saving right right the bad outweighs the good

i don't want to jinx ourselves but like there is nothing that could happen that could outweigh the good that we do to for what's this from there's good stuff here i don't know fleischman's in trouble i don't know somebody help me what is that from and i was just like saying a nice thing and you had to come in with your with your steve brady steve brady when he's getting broken up with there's good stuff here yeah

i don't think there's as much good as there was between jackson clon

it's so true Anyway, so like, that was my nice thought that you just like didn't even think about.

That's beautiful.

Nice thought of the day.

Maybe that will come between us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like that.

You like that?

I like that.

What?

I like it.

What you said.

What did I say?

That there's good stuff here.

Like, there's too much good.

Okay.

It's beautiful.

I like that.

Is that okay?

Yeah.

That I like what you said.

I just get to the fucking shower of fucking paying attention when I was saying something nice.

What else would I be doing?

I don't know, thinking about what you were going to say.

Thinking about where the quote was from.

There's good stuff here.

Well, that is our show.

There was good stuff here.

There was.

All is to say there was good stuff here.

Wishing Hayden, Tia, and Tamara the best.

And

Sabrina, of course.

Always.

What was story?

Oh, and Olivia Munn.

Mazeltov, by the way, Olivia.

Totally.

Lanzer Jelly.

And wishing Anne and Marie Templar the best, too.

Holding space.

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