Big 'Big Katy' News: Wednesday, September 4th, 2024

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday.

That really feels like a Tuesday, but it's a Wednesday because we should be adapting the four-day work week here in America.

That's my takeaway, end of episode.

Hey, Jax, how you dern?

Hi, you dern.

I'm darn good.

Except, you know, when you're like sleeping and you're trying to orient yourself to like, where am I?

What day is it?

What time is it?

I oriented myself to Thursday.

So

I'm already on Orient Express.

No, so like...

I'm missing the greatness of this week.

Like it should have felt short and now it feels long because I oriented myself improperly.

Oh, you're just like so toxic because let's not go there.

Let's not ruin a perfectly good thing.

No, we won't.

It's Wednesday and you know, I wasn't ready for it to be Thursday because this week has so much to offer.

There's so much we're going to do this week and I just, I want more of this week.

There's so much gargie parginess to admire.

There's so much gargie pargy

energy this week.

I would be sad if it was almost over, honestly.

I'm really enjoying this week.

It's kind of been like a top-notch week.

I mean, it's been literally one day calm down

however I agree with you and I want to say and I know I say this every time there's some sort of federal or bank holiday the four-day work week is so unbelievable I'm so productive every day is like filled to the brim with Garjee Pargi product productivity garji party production production by the way literally trademark it now

It just, it makes me sick that this is not my, like, I mean, we're two days in a row, like some of the best moods we've ever been in.

it's because of the four-day work week my god if people just got their fucking acts together now i know what you're gonna say if it was a four-day work week every week then you wouldn't be that productive because you'd just get into the same routine you are in now with a five-day work week like please shut up i know what you're gonna say

yeah tuesdays would come to feel like mondays no they wouldn't

but i understand what you're saying and we wouldn't appreciate the four-day work week like we do would be like clamoring for a three-day like shut up and go to work no i know

i think you know what it really should be oh my god because in order to appreciate every other week?

No.

Once a month?

No, let me fucking talk.

In order to appreciate the four-day work week, right?

You need to have lived through the five-day workweek.

I think, you know, there's like a retirement age at 65.

There needs to be like a reduction age.

You go from the five-day to the four-day at like 35.

No, that's that halfway?

But then that would that would result in ageism because then people wouldn't want to hire the people who are only working four days a week.

They would want to hire people.

But here's the thing.

You have to still get the same amount of work done in those four days.

Like your responsibilities responsibilities remain the same.

Yeah.

I just think it's something to think about.

Like, I know we think it can't be done, but like, you know, during COVID, on a whim, everybody went to working at home.

Like, if we wanted it bad enough, it could happen.

If we wanted to, we would.

I just feel like.

complaining about five days and yearning for four days is a core tenant like of this show.

100%.

What would we talk about?

That's a really good question.

We'd have to kind of, we'd have to seriously go on hiatus, like re-strategize our entire content strategy.

Yeah, like the days of the week are so integral to the tone of the show every day and if they were re-jiggered perhaps we might be re-jiggered would that be so bad i could use a good rejigger depends how the jiggering fell well yeah we'd have to just let the chips just fall where they may fall where they may now i wanted to say something that i saw on twitter today that I feel like you wouldn't have wanted to make a story, but it really, it really put into perspective for me.

Like, I'm seriously old, you know?

Okay.

What did it?

You know, um,

Jacob Sartorius.

Oh my God, the robot to my mortal enemy, Jacob Sartorius.

I forgot about him.

I hope he's doing well.

No,

you know what,

as a kid, like, I don't know, I know I was like big into Nick at night.

Yeah.

And like, what were the shows that we were watching?

The nanny and

George Lopez.

The one, George Lopez.

I wasn't watching, I was always watching George Lopez against my will.

But, you know, I'd watch two episodes of the nanny and then go to sleep and then wake up to.

And apparently, like, they've updated their programming for the next gen.

Like, do you know what their, the nanny is going to be?

And the nanny was like an old show that they brought back for kids at Nick and Knight.

The old show is Modern Family.

Wow.

That's what kids are going to be watching before they go to bed.

That's like the reruns.

I just want to say, yes, Feeling Old, because that was a contemporary show for us.

Isn't that the hot new thing?

It just ended.

However, I'm glad to know that that's what the kids will have to comfort them as they go to sleep at night because it's such a good show.

Yeah.

For so many different reasons.

So

I agree with you on both counts.

It also, I feel like we don't talk about, like, do you remember a time when Modern Family just aired?

And like, seriously, the way people were talking about it, like, it really was a cultural shift.

It was.

Now it's just like one of those sitcoms, but at the time, it was a cultural shift because it was a sitcom that was like actually funny.

Yeah.

No, and it had a lot going on.

So many layers.

So many layers.

So inclusive.

I think everybody saw themselves in someone.

Yeah.

It was really a fabulous show.

I never like watched it fully, but I'm happy that the kids, maybe I'll watch it at Nick and Knight now.

In college, Dana and Sam were like obsessed with Modern Family and they were roommates all four years and like they would never miss an episode.

Like it was their thing of always just like watching Modern Family.

So I do feel quite connected to Modern Family throws Mosis.

No, and I watch it like when it's on.

It's seriously hilarious.

Yeah.

I really

should do like a full rewatch.

Honestly.

That's a good rewatch show.

It is, except I find Mitchell.

the red-headed gay brother, like I find him so insufferably annoying.

Like so much so sometimes I'm watching it.

I have to turn it off when he comes on.

Well, every show has to have an insufferable, annoying character in order for you to appreciate the other ones.

Susan Meyer, Carrie Bradshaw, Serena van der Woodson.

Serena van der Woodson.

Yeah.

We've got a great show today.

The stories are actually really good.

We also have a lot of stuff.

We were just like

spitballing back and forth so many stories, so little time.

I crammed six into the five structure, but could have been seven.

And today's really exciting because as paid endorsers from of Big Katie, there's a Big Katie Perry story that I seriously am dying to talk about.

Ever since I saw this clip, I have not thought about anything, but I said to Jackie last night,

seriously, Big Katie is making it hard to continue advocating for Big Katie.

That's what I'm saying.

So they better keep paying us the big bucks, which they're not.

Which they're not.

If they were paying us, I would have something nice to say today if they were paying us a lot.

No, it would have to be a lot.

But I have nothing nice to say.

No, and I have actually something really crazy to say that I'll say when we get to, it's the third story.

When we get to BKS, the Big Katie story.

Right.

When we get to the sponsored story

you look cute today oh thank you so much just swirling into fall oh my god it's a little hot today it's kind of ruining like the vibe i've sort of like i've created this future for myself and it's fall but it's actually not it's still fully summer and it's hot as today Yeah, my AC around my house is like getting fixed up.

So it's like patchy.

In some rooms, I'm freezing.

In this room, I'm warm.

But I was going to say, what is the word for like, not when you're not sponsored by something, it's like the opposite, where like you are paid to do damage to the brand?

A hit piece?

I don't know because remember like during the Jersey Shore days, I like once read that designer brands were sending their competitors' bags to like

snookie and to like wear drunk on the beach, like make the competitors' bags look bad.

That's really funny.

I don't know if there's a name for it, but that's a brilliant strategy, although mean, because seriously, like nobody had more influence on me as a child than Nicole Snookie Palizzi.

And I was actually thinking yesterday when I'm done with Desperate House-wise, I do feel like my biological clock is ticking.

I have to rewatch Jersey Shore again.

Oh, that's a good one.

And by the way, you should maybe do that too.

I feel like Zach has never seen it and he would love it.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, we still have watched only those two episodes of Desperate Housewives, so I'll catch you next year.

Oh, we watched like 11 episodes last night.

Like, seriously, we can't stop.

I don't know.

The night's been getting away from me.

It's just getting like so late so fast.

And I gave myself a bit of a spray tan last night, so I just let it sit and then shower and I had a loaf in the oven.

So I just, I just

had a busy night.

Do I look tan?

Um, yeah, you can't really see me.

Oh, yeah, yeah, you do.

Thank you.

You look gargy, yeah, yeah, because it's like I'm wearing shorts down here, so and I was spray tanned all summer, and it was it was so gargy.

I want to keep up that energy.

I'm like, still really tan, like from the sun, which is so unparalleled.

I love spray tanning, you're never gonna catch me saying a bad word about it, but like the rubbing off onto clothes, sheets, towels, the maintenance, the scrubbing on, scrubbing off, like it is a full-time job.

The maintenance, yeah.

Let me tell you, having an an like a suntan i know it's so bad for you please don't start with me

is so inspiring like i i can't really explain to you what it makes me want to do you know the i'm gonna know i know you don't lay out in the sun you you don't have the skin tone for it and i've never like gotten a tan that's lasted like i'll get a summer and that could turn into a tan but it's only like two good days max yeah and if i wear sunscreen or you know tan like any spf i just get nothing so it's not like i really get tan and so why am I laying out there in sunscreen for nothing?

No, I know.

I just,

I don't want to brag, but I can tell you, like, it's, there's no greater feeling.

Think about how you feel with like a perfect spray tan.

It's like, it's like double that.

It's double the fun.

That's nice.

Yeah.

I guess you can't miss what you've never had.

So for me, I'm like, okay.

I'll take your word for it.

Hi, Nara.

I'll take your word for it.

We have a lot to do today, so I don't want to rush at all, Dilly Dally, but I just want you to be mindful of the clock.

Anything else you want to chit-chat about in the pre-fast five banner?

Banner, banter, before we dive in?

No, I'm actually more looking forward to the stories today than any banter that I'm that I would bant with my sister.

I know, I feel the same.

So and also like banter will be immersed throughout.

I mean, we just sort of like sprinkle the banter throughout.

Yeah.

Yeah, a sprinkle of banter.

So, I mean, I'm down.

I don't want to rush you.

I'm down if you're down.

I'm down.

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Our first story, the annual long-awaited news of the Dancing with the Stars cast.

There are two stories today

that are like annual cornerstones we have to talk about every single year.

Yes, and I enjoy them because I do think they're a sign of the times.

It shows us where we're at as a society.

And here is who are Dancing with the Stars this year.

I want to say, I don't know if we've remarked on it, but I feel like in the past, Dancing with the Stars has always been like a popular show, but it's been considered lowbrow, right?

Like you're either on your way up in this world or you're on your way down.

And Dancing with the Stars is a stop on that expressway.

I feel like in recent years, especially with them being on streaming, which is just like cooler and younger and hipper, I do feel like it has less of a stigma and more people who you never would have considered to be on it are on it.

But who from this list?

I was really shocked to see Danny Amendola and Dwight Howard.

Like, those are two premium ass athletes, not like people you've never heard of.

Like, I don't really follow basketball, and up until recently, I didn't really follow football.

And these are two people whose names I had heard of.

I was surprised to see Dwight Howard.

I do agree he falls into that box.

When I saw Danny Amendola, it didn't make me think like better of Dancing with the Stars.

It just made me think worse of him.

Brooke Snater.

I was like, no, she's someone who doesn't need Dancing with the Stars, you know?

So here's who's going to be on it, and then we can assess the class of season 33.

Real houses of Atlanta star Phaedra Parks, classic.

Classic queen.

Tori spelling.

I'm shocked she hasn't done it before.

I'm shocked she hasn't done it before.

That's the shocking part.

33 seasons, and this is her first one.

And I just, I think I'm excluding Tori spelling from what I just said before about them leveling up.

Like, just please, leave me.

That's usual.

It's...

The shocking part is that she hasn't done it before.

This is a surprising one.

Eric Roberts, who's an Academy Award nominee and brother of Julia Roberts.

And father of Emma?

Brother.

Yes.

Hold on.

Emma Roberts, dad.

That's a good call.

And maybe, you know, they love to have people.

Eric Roberts, yes.

Okay, they should have led with that.

That was just me like surmising.

They should have led me.

First of all, he looks just like Emma.

Second of all, you know, they love to have people's friends and family come and then like they do a whole story.

Like, she's going to go, right?

100%.

She's going to love it.

I'm sure she watches.

Unless they're on like bad terms, which I don't know.

They're definitely.

Then Anna Delvey.

By the way, I don't know if

it was

Anna herself, but you know, we had that clip on TikTok about Anna Delvey, like who is that she's an industry plant.

Okay.

And like a verified account, like the Delvey files, like liked it and favored it and like saved it.

That's so funny.

Yeah.

She is an industry plant.

Like seriously, who is going to vote for Anna Delvey?

She better be dancing her tail off.

No, that's such a good point.

It's a fan-voted show.

Who is voting for Anna Delvey?

Like, Susan Noah.

Just that freak who worked at the hotel, and she's probably going to be calling, like, every 35 seconds, like, voting as many times as she can every week for Anna Delvey from her phone, her computer, her tablet, and then everyone else who works at the hotel's tablet.

Yeah, because she's the one who like planted the story, who like is obsessed with Anna Delvey being in the public sphere.

She is going to go to the hotel and go to every single room and use like all the tablets in every room to vote 10 times every week yeah that's so that's it so she better be a good dancer because I really just don't see the fan votes rolling in for her

such a good point then NBA champion Dwight Howard surprising I agree I agree Danny Amendola shocking Do you think he's still dating Sandra?

Like, I really was, I was so into that, and then I never like.

I think if he was yesterday, he's not today because I don't think Sandra is dating Dancing with the Stars.

Yeah, yeah, it's true.

It's true.

Like,

what's his name?

Braxton would never.

Braxton would never.

Yeah, it's true.

Brooks Nader, Sports Illustrated swimsuit model.

Shocking, like cover star to Dancing with the Stars.

I'm telling you, Dancing with the Stars is on the up.

I don't know.

I see it as a useful step for her.

Mainstream.

She's already.

She's got a lot of like Instagram success and like that whole world knows her.

But like, let's get her on TV in front of America.

I agree.

You better start dancing hard.

Yeah, right.

Then Alona Marr, like a perfect, perfect.

That is, that's a huge get for dancing with the stars.

Yeah, but they also have pommel horse Steve.

Love, love.

But Alona Marr is like seriously a national treasure.

And I just want to say, not to make everything about me, but I want to go find the episode.

It wasn't what, three years ago when the last Olympics were because of COVID, right?

They like moved it up.

Where I was on this, like I was talking about Alona Marr before everyone else was.

Like, sorry.

I followed her for years.

Like, classic charity.

Just welcome.

Yeah, welcome to the club.

We've all been here.

Then also Joey from The Bachelor, Grazia, who said that Venice has this old school vibe?

Claudia, it was Athens.

Right, which is like the old, or it was the city in Greece, like the oldest city in the world, had an old school vibe.

He was

like, he has a special place in my heart.

I don't know him, but I like him.

I agree.

You know what I mean?

I got good vibes.

I agreed.

Then also, what I find surprising is Jen Tran, who was just the bachelorette, is also competing.

Have we ever had a season?

Where it's two bachelor contestants, and I think she was on his season.

No, I mean, what is this?

The love spark.

What does this make you think of

i don't know caitlin bristow to me like one of the craziest things ever was like back in the heyday of the bachelor when caitlin before she was the bachelorette oh no after she was the bachelorette like all her dream she was a four like a dancer professional dancer before her reality star career and like all she wanted to do was be on

Dancing with the Stars and the creator of the show was like, no, we're not allowed to.

Like no one's allowed.

She like begged, big, begged.

And then like all these other people went on and then years later, they finally went her on.

No, but also previously, that like it was a, it was a logical pipeline.

It's ABC, Bachelor, to Dancing with the Stars.

And only for Caitlin was it like, oh, no, we don't want to encourage that because we don't want people coming on the show for fame.

Only for Caitlin, who's like dream it was to be on Dancing with the Stars.

No, and now there's two leads in one season.

Yeah, but also Mike Fleis isn't like in the short one.

Yeah.

No, but I just think it's interesting because like what if they fall back in love?

With each other?

On the ballroom dance floor?

Because I just saw Jen Tran.

Her season ended and she's already not with her mans.

He like called her on the phone.

Oh spoiler alert.

It was on after the final rose.

He like broke up with her in 15 minutes and then started following Maria from her season.

Yikes.

Yikes.

That sounds good.

It did.

I was like reading it.

I'm like, tea.

Oh, my God.

And of course, it's no surprise.

Jeremy Simon, our cousin, our long-lost cousin, did not win, but he was accused of going clubbing with Jeremy Simon like right after he broke up with Jen.

By the way, that's...

That doesn't make Jeremy look bad.

Jeremy's single.

He's allowed to do whatever he wants.

For sure.

No, we need to find Jeremy a nice girl.

We do.

It's not going to be at the clubs.

No, it's not Jeremy.

Go to synagogue.

Go to synagogue or Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor.

Or Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor.

Like, that's something I need to happen.

I hope they've, I hope they've gone out, got to know each other.

Should we see if they follow each other?

Yes.

Also, I have no idea what he looks like.

I imagine he's attractive because like everyone on the show is, but is he attractive enough?

Also, like Ariel Frankel might have like a boyfriend.

Oh, she follows Jeremy.

Does he follow her?

I'm checking.

I'm checking.

Yes.

He does.

Oh.

Oh, oh, oh.

And he's super cute.

Very handsome.

Let's get together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm upset.

Maybe they'll save it for paradise.

If the two of them go on paradise, I vow to you, I will watch.

Oh, okay.

Because what a shitach.

What a shitach.

Oh, my God.

Okay, well, back to

the stars.

Someone from Pretty Little Eyers Summer School named Chandler Kinney.

Don't know her.

But you know, that's like the Gen Z.

Oh, I thought it was going to be a boy.

Chandler.

It's a neutral name.

It is, it is.

Oh, no, but it's a girl.

I just fully guessed.

I guess Pretty Little Lyre's is a show about girls.

About Pretty Little Girls.

Little girl.

Then Reginald Bell Johnson from Family Matters.

Okay.

I feel like they're missing like a influencer.

They always have like a TikTok or Gen Z.

Now, Brooks Nader is an influencer, but she's she's not Gen Z.

Like, I'm thinking, like, Charlie D'Amilio.

They had Nash Greer.

You know, every year they have like a musically

they don't have their resident TikToker.

That's bizarre, no?

I mean,

it probably was a tight season because of the Olympics, and then they have like two ABC plants in Bachelor and Bachelorette.

Like, spots are filling up.

There also isn't like an obvious

winner when it comes to dancing, right?

Like, we're always talking about Lori Hernandez, Heather from Glee, like, people who are trained dancers, people who have like so much background in performing.

I don't see anyone

with that.

Who do you think will win?

Just take a, like, let's just make a bet.

Run it back.

Tell me again.

Okay, Phaedra,

Tori Spelling, Eric Roberts, Anna Delvey, Dwight Howard, Danny Amendola, Brooks Nader, Alona Marr, Joey from The Bachelor.

Chandler Kinney, Reginald L.

Johnson, Jen Tran.

Ilona Maher.

Because, and there's really not like a super obvious choice, but one, she already has like the athletic ability.

I think that's like really hard for people in the first couple of weeks is going from living a regular life, like maybe you work out, maybe you don't, but every single day, all day, every day, doing really, really hard routines.

She has that, she plays rugby.

Two,

she has so many fans.

She has followers on every platform.

She has people who will seriously spend all day calling in for her.

So I, with this, we'll check back in in a couple of months, but I'm saying Ilona Marr.

I'm voting Dwight Howard.

They don't want to lose him.

And I feel like it's been a while since we've had like the athlete win, like the male athlete.

And that's always like very like they usually.

Iman Chumper, when did he win?

Did he win?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But when was that?

I thought it was two, three years ago.

Like not crazy.

Let's see.

And the fact that Iman Chumpert went on dancing with the stars was crazy.

It makes sense that then Dwight Howard, like it's not that incongruous, I guess.

2021?

years.

Okay.

So it can be done.

I'm going Dwayne Howard.

It can be done.

Yeah.

But I don't know if Dwayne Howard seriously has any fans.

Like,

who would call up?

If Dwight Howard has no fans,

no, who would like call up?

Yeah, they're fans of his basketball, but those people are not watching.

Like, Yvonne Schumpert, like, had his wife, Tayana Taylor, like, they have like fans.

Okay.

Just saying.

Okay, well,

fans, make yourselves known.

It matters who your partner is because those partners have fans too.

Yes.

Yes, it's true.

Are you ready for our next story?

Is it a woman's world?

No, it's not.

Okay.

No, it's not.

It's some more annual news.

People's sexiest man alive.

The polls are now open.

And we're getting categories.

We're getting nominees.

And we're getting good guys.

We're getting good guys.

So they have open voting for people's sexiest man alive and all the subcategories that entails.

And by the way, just like that modern family thing made you feel old, this is making me feel old for I don't know these people really nominated.

Like 2024 Sexiest Heartthrob nominees.

Gavin Casalegno, who I think is from Summer I Turn Pretty.

Jeremiah, yeah.

Nicholas Galzatine from our favorite show.

Yeah, and he's and the idea of you.

The idea of you and the stars show.

And he's in

Red, White, and Royal Blue.

No?

That's where like I went to.

Yeah, so I didn't watch it.

But like people are obsessed with.

he's a good nominee i actually think i'll oh and then manny jacinto who i don't know and jacob alordi

kind of like a tight race who should i vote for although i do want to say i don't think jacob alorty is the sexiest man this year like i feel like he didn't even work this year you know so should i vote for nicholas galzatine wait i'm gonna vote with you i'm gonna vote with you okay this is fun how do i vote oh wait

it's at the bottom of the page and it's like a slideshow

they'd love to do it a slideshow yeah

i voted for nicholas Okay, seriously, not to be like dumb and slow.

I just want to.

Do you want me to text it to you?

Can you email it to me on my iPad?

Yes, actually, that's much easier.

Which email?

With a C?

Any of them.

No, yeah, with the C.

Oh, no, with a J.

J is on this one.

Oh, whoa, whoa.

Like, why is it not coming up as the first result?

Oh, maybe because I searched people, Sakaiist, coat.

Vote.

People, Sakaiist, coat.

Oh, I got it.

Okay, good, because I like my iPad as well.

So, heartthrob, I'm going to go Nicholas Gallatzine.

Okay, then, sexiest musician, Harry Styles, role model.

I don't know who that is.

I've never heard of that.

I have only heard of that because that dated Emma Chamberlain for a while.

That dated.

And I'm surprised Lil Mosie's not on here.

Totally.

That person was little role model, little role model, was also on Therapus.

That's how I keep up with the young kids on that podcast.

So I'm not familiar with the music.

And Zach Bryan and Shibuzi.

Now you know

Shibuzi.

I'm voting for Harry Styles.

I just feel like Harry Styles is like Jacob Alorde, like you weren't here this year.

Sorry.

I completely agree.

And to be honest, I feel like it should be Zach Bryan.

It was his year.

But from a physical perspective, he's not my type.

Like Harry Styles is my type.

So.

Okay, who's the sexiest summer action star?

Ryan Gosling and Fall Guy, Ryan Reynolds, Glenn Powell, or Hugh Jackman?

Glenn Powell, duh.

Who is the sexiest new dad?

This is really inappropriate.

Like, I'm sorry, this is someone's father, but it is Maluma, Robert Pattinson, Cole Tucker, who's Vanessa Hudgens is dance,

and Justin Bieber.

I'm going Robert Pattinson.

Of course, I'm going Robert Pattinson.

Who is the sexiest long-married star?

25 years.

These categories get dumber and dumber.

This is a great category because you know what's sexy?

Loyalty, fidelity.

Yeah, commitment.

Yeah.

We have Denzel Washington, Kevin Bacon, Ted Danson, and Tim McGraw.

Oh, my God, the Truckers.

I think that was Truckers for Tim Outside.

Denzel.

Oh.

Yeah.

Jinx.

Jinx.

Who's the sexiest TV host?

Marconsuelos, Jimmy Fallon, Seth Meyers, or Mario Lopez?

Mario Lopez.

By the way, Mario Lopez.

I was about to skip this category until I saw him.

I was about to say, like, as you were reading them, I hate all these people, but then I wouldn't include Mario Lopez in that.

And let me say something.

Ben is friends with Mario Lopez.

He is seriously the nicest guy on the planet.

Like what you think he is on TV, he's exactly like that in person.

He gets my vote.

This next category is why this is a story today, because they have a category called sexiest podcast host.

And the nominees are TJ Holmes, Penn Badgley, the Kelsey Brothers, and Josh Peck from The Good Guys.

Now, of course, we're voting for Josh Peck, and I really encourage you all to go do that.

I think the fact that they put TJ Holmes in here is disgraceful.

Not that he's not good looking.

Like, seriously, you're not a podcast.

Being a podcaster for three months doesn't make you a podcaster, okay?

No, this category, I don't feel like, aside from Josh and the Kelsey brothers, honestly, like, I, I don't feel like the other two are the sexiest men in podcasting or even like

Penn Badgley.

I'm just a great actor.

No, Penn Badgley these days, like, his podcast is so big.

I actually think this category is well done besides for TJ Holmes, but I'm voting for Josh, obviously.

I feel like they went out of the way, they're out of their way to like not include the actual big male podcasters.

Yeah, like, where's Jason Bateman?

Will Arnett should have been there?

Leo Vaughan.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Will Arnett.

That's a good one.

I'm voting for Josh Peck.

Of course.

Please go vote for Josh.

That'd be so cool for the good guys.

That would be so cool for the good guys.

Do they know about this, by the way?

Oh, my God.

So I didn't know if Josh knew, but I texted him last night in our chat with Ben because somebody DM'd it to me.

And I said, oh, my God, this is so good for the good guys.

And Josh said, where, in all caps, where is BSC?

Yeah.

And they did do the Kelsey brothers.

They could have done the good guy.

Oh my God, that's so true.

Yeah.

No, we're all like Ben was freaking out.

Like we're so excited.

This is

very, it's very exciting for TNN, for Garjee Pargi Productions.

Like it's very exciting.

No, and Josh has always elevated TNN.

And this is seriously taking us to another level.

Who is the sexiest dog, Dad?

Can I skip this?

Like, seriously, that would, like, stupid.

No, I'm voting for Simu Leo.

He's my friend.

I just.

Oh, right.

He's your friend.

Okay.

I forgot to tell everyone on the podcast, I actually hung out with Simu Leo over the summer.

He was so nice and cool.

We played pickleball.

Justin Thoreau, Max Greenfield, and David Batista.

I'm going to vote for your friend Simu.

My friend Simu.

Who's the sexiest handyman?

The Property Brothers, Ty Pennington, Chip Gaines, Jonathan Knight.

Chip Gaines.

But I want to say, like, them including Ty Pennington from Extreme Makeover Home Edition, whoever did this, like, knows me, you know?

Yeah.

I feel like they actually had like four different people nominating and it was like someone from every realm like there there is a gen z contributor here but there also is a swirly contributor and i just want to say like i find the property mothers insufferable next

who is the sexiest supportive partner in sports oh i love this this is a stacked category of course jonathan owens simone biles oh i'm really torn Andre Lavrone, who's Sidney McLaughlin Lavrone.

And we loved learning about this guy at the Olympics.

They are so cute.

You have to look at their Instagram.

They're obsessed with each other and Jesus.

Like, they are so cute and pure.

And then Christian McCaffrey, husband to Olivia Coppo.

Okay, I want to say something.

Like, he has my heart, right?

He is not, like, to me, he's not the same as the other three.

Like, he, like,

we knew Christian McCaffrey before he married Olivia Culpo.

We knew that.

We know Jonathan Owens.

Everyone else has an athlete wife, not the athlete themselves, but they did say sexiest supportive partner in sports.

So no, I'm sorry.

Christian McCaffrey, I love him more than life itself.

And Olivia Culpo is my girl for life.

I'm not voting for him.

Yeah, I would vote for him in a different category, though.

I'm voting for Andre.

Do you know who Hunter Woodall is?

Is he the one?

No.

So his wife, Tara, is the one who won gold in the, what is that thing called where you jump in the sand?

She was like,

no, no, but it's like a part of the, that they're on the same area.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whatever.

They were making, they went so viral on TikTok.

Long jump.

Long jump, yes.

He's really cute, and they had like really a moment at the Olympics, but I agree.

I'm voting for, it's hard because you know how I feel about Jonathan Owens.

Like I've recently like loved him.

Okay, you vote for Andre.

I'll vote for Jonathan.

Okay.

This next category, like now we're getting stupid.

We were already stupid.

We are getting stupid.

We were already stupid, but now we've gotten like seriously muronic.

Who makes Brat look sexiest?

What?

No, seriously, what?

And the only person in this category who's like connected to Brat, actually Brat Summer, is Troy Sivan.

And the nominees are Troy Sivon, Joe Jonas, Kyle McLaughlin, and Barry Kyogan.

I'm voting for Kyle McLaughlin Orson.

I'm not voting because this is stupid.

I'm voting for Orson, but beyond stupid.

Like, that's where the Gen Z intern got like too much

to see the sun.

Yeah, they listened to her too much.

Agreed.

Who's got the sexiest tattoos?

Post Malone, Bad Bunny, Neymar Jr., Jeremy Allen White.

Jeremy Allen.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Who's the Gen sexiest?

Capital X for Gen X.

Okay, that's a bad way of writing it, but it's a good category.

Ethan Hawk, Shamar Moore, Matt Dylan, Benjamin Bratt.

One thing about me is I love criminal minds and Shamar Moore truly has my heart.

And if you ever want to laugh, I feel like I've brought this up on the podcast a couple of times, but it's worth repeating.

Shamar Moore has the most niche, passionate fan base of like older women who find him so hot.

You have to, if you ever need to chuckle, go read the comments on his Instagram.

I do it all the time.

I'm going to give him my vote

in support of you.

I believe in his Instagram bio, he like addresses his...

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, yeah.

His Instagram bio is let's flirt, goofball, inspire, dream, succeed, and beat multiple sclerosis.

He's obviously like also has a passion when it comes to philanthropy.

He's cause-driven.

He's cause-driven.

He has my vote, he's and my heart.

Next category, another stupid one.

Which sexy Fiero makes you want to fly?

And so it's like the cast of wicked through the

Jonathan Bailey, Aaron Tveit, Tay Diggs, Joe McIntyre.

I'm going Tay Diggs.

I'm going Jonathan Bailey.

He's so hot.

Who is the sexiest guy on TikTok?

Oh, my God, Fibula!

Brew on the Radio.

Oh, my God.

Connor Wood, Noah Beck.

Okay, I'm literally voting for him.

Fibs because only one of these has been on the toast and I'm literally waiting.

Oh, I guess then I have to vote for him too.

Who's Brew?

Oh, Brew on the Radio is a radio host for like a iHeartRadio station, but he like went, like made his job also TikTok, and he dates a big other TikTok.

No one had really heard of him until he dated the other TikToker, Anna Exitar.

Do you know her?

No.

Oh, she's huge.

Super cute.

This is a good category.

I'll vote for Connor because he came on the toast.

Of course.

And I love him.

Oh, my God.

I'm so happy for him.

That's huge.

Okay.

Oh, and now I have to give my email address to cast my votes.

Oh, I'm doing it.

I want my work to have counted.

I'll give like a spam email.

Oh, sign up for more newsletters?

No, thank you.

No, I think I could just cast my vote.

Oh, no, my email is required.

Okay, I'll give a spam email later.

Oh, I feel really good that we did that.

Like we did our part.

Yeah, we are making our voices heard and raising our voices.

Yeah, like a lot of other podcasters are going to, you know, encourage you to register to vote at vote.org.

We're going to encourage you to register at peoplemagazine.com.

Our next story, big Katie, big, big Katie news.

Yeah, big, big Katie news.

So Katy Perry went on Call Her Daddy.

She has her new album coming out.

The episode of Call Her Daddy dropped today.

And one moment that's really going viral is she's responding to outrage over working with Dr.

Luke on her new album because that's really been the lingering question, like, why is Katy Perry working so closely with Dr.

Luke after everybody?

We know what we know.

We know what we know.

And honestly, she's the first mega star to do it.

Recently, Kim Petrus, her whole album was done by Dr.

Luke, and she's, as much as it pains me, she's not a megastar.

You know, she's very, I feel like most people listening don't even know any of her music.

And so it wasn't as egregious and it wasn't as big of a deal.

But Katy Perry, like one of the OG pop girls who's like so famous, this is huge.

Yeah.

So just like the whole album is like about womanhood.

Yeah, she was just a little backstory.

She's come under fire for collaborating with Dr.

Luke, who was behind some of her biggest hits worth knowing.

I Kissed a Girl, California Girls, Teenage Dream, and more.

The producer, Dr.

Luke, was accused of drugging and and sexually abusing fellow pop star Kesha in a 2014 lawsuit, which was settled last year.

Her new album includes

Lady Gaga.

Lady Gaga has never expressly, but she has acknowledged, yes, like she has.

He was on trial with Kesha.

Yes, yes, yes.

Her new album includes songs written and produced by Dr.

Luke, including the singles Woman's World and Lifetimes.

So she was asked directly, like people are upset that you're working with Dr.

Luke, like, what do you have to say about that decision?

She said, quote, I understand that it started a lot of conversations, and he was one of many collaborators that I collaborated with.

I love collaborating with collaborators.

Don't I?

By the way, when I watched the clip, I thought the same thing, like use a different word.

Yeah.

But the reality is it comes from me, she said.

The truth is I wrote these songs from my experiences of my whole life going through this metamorphosis.

And he was one of the people to help facilitate all that.

One of the writers, one of the producers, I am speaking from my own experience.

When I speak about women's world, I speak about feeling so empowered now as a mother, as a woman, giving birth, creating life, creating another set of organs, a brain, a heart.

I created a whole ass heart and I did it and I'm still doing it.

I'm still a matriarch and feeling really grounded in that.

That's where I'm speaking from.

So I created it all of this with several different collaborators, people that I've collaborated with from the past, from teenage dream era, all of that.

Okay, like seriously, objection, relevance.

What the fuck is she talking about?

I had so many takeaways from her response and her appearance on the show in general.

I think the fact that she was asked this question, she obviously knew she was going to be asked.

And this is an answer that her and her team came up with.

right?

Exactly.

It's such a bad answer.

And

she could have gotten away with having Alex not ask her that question, you know?

And she wanted to address it finally.

And this was her big, you know, solve.

It's such a bad answer.

And I hate when people then bring up motherhood because, like, seriously, that has nothing to do with it.

And I think that, like, she thinks if she brings up the fact that she's a mom, it like absolves her from something.

And it actually makes it worse.

Like, you're a mom to a daughter.

I think that the strategy here was like, bring it back to the work, bring it back to the story you're trying to tell, like screw out of it.

And I think it's a really bad strategy.

Objection, relevance.

There is none to be seen here.

And I think the things that she's saying about like her voice and womanhood and all of that, like really great stuff doesn't answer the question at all.

And like using it as a shield is not a good look for her.

Like honestly, she would have been better off saying like, fuck Kesha, Luki didn't do it.

If that's what she thinks, because she must think somewhat decently of him to work with him again.

It would have, as she said, she had so many collaborators.

It would have been easy to just take one collaborator off of the album.

So she obviously like feels decently about him and is working with him.

So like say it with your whole chest, don't like do this because you just look weak and like

or and now it's like, wait, so do you think that he did those things and you're still working with him?

Or do you not believe that?

And that's why you're working with him because you know you think he's a good guy, in which case, like say that and like have a spine versus this.

No, but also, I feel like it's so crazy that Katy Perry worked with this person, right?

Because she's not desperate.

I could see someone on the up like Kim Petrus, like getting Dr.

Luke, who you never would have gotten at the level that you're at to work with you.

I can almost see the trade-off, right?

What I can't see is someone at Katy Perry's level who has options beyond options, but also how the music industry is still, like there's a structure in place, right?

Like to get

To get work with a pop star like Katy Perry, like you have to be in the mix.

You have to have certain deals and like the music industry is still popping up, propping up, excuse me, this person, right?

Like you won't just get access to Katy Perry.

Like you still have to be in the mix.

How is he still in the mix?

I think actually it was a bit of a desperate move from Katy Perry to try and like reclaim the greatness of Teenage Dream and those albums because he did work on those things.

They're amazing music.

What she's done since then, like and in the most recent years, like hasn't.

achieved what those songs did.

And I actually, I think she wanted to do everything and throw everything at the wall to have an album like Teenage Dream.

And if Dr.

Luke was such a big part of that, then like she doesn't care.

I genuinely can't decide how I feel.

Like, if she really thinks that he didn't do those things and like, I'm going to work with Luke again, like, he's my friend.

Or it's like he did those things and I don't care.

I want a great album and Dr.

Luke is the best.

Because like, she's also another one who like still wears Balenciaga.

Dennis Luke is the best.

I can't.

Yeah,

amazing point.

People could just like clip me saying that.

Oh my God, no.

Benny, that's an amazing point.

Clip me saying, fuck Kesha, Dr.

Literally.

By the way, you are 100% right.

I think bringing up Balenciaga is an amazing point because anybody now who's like still showing up and showing up for Balenciaga, like seriously has no scruples.

And I...

I genuinely think that she has no scruples.

That's what we've said about her in the past on a

more

non-serious level.

You know, she'll just sing whatever, do whatever.

She just wants to like be

in the mix.

But yeah, no, I think it's deeper than that when it comes to like working with Dr.

Luke and Balenciaga.

Like, I don't care.

I want great music.

I want great clothes.

Like, I don't give a rip.

No, it's so true.

Like, we have said this, and now it's like actually about more serious things.

She is spineless.

She stands for nothing.

That's a huge takeaway from the interview.

And for me, like, I'm like, on the way to work today, like I did, I listened to Lifetimes.

The music she's releasing is so good.

I am at this place where I'm completely separating the art from the artist because not only do I think she's spineless and like seriously doesn't give a fuck about anything of great importance.

What I took away from just clips, I did not watch her on the podcast.

Like, she seriously looks like she is one of the most fucking dreadful personalities on the planet.

Like when she was laughing about sucking dick for doing the dishes, like she thought she was being so relatable and real.

Like, girl, shut up.

You have a housekeeper.

Like, I seriously, I couldn't look at her.

My main takeaway was like, Orlando Bloom has to do the dishes.

Why?

Why is Orlando Bloom doing the dishes?

No, by the way, facts.

And I think that people go on podcasts, any podcast, to be relatable, right?

And they talk about real life things like doing the dishes.

And for the most part, I think it's a pretty sound strategy.

Like, I have never really walked away from a a podcast interview with someone and like hated them because it's relatable and you're just chit-chatting and usually you like the host and it's like, well, if they like this person, like why not?

Oh my God.

I found her like, seriously, I thought it was, it had the total opposite effect.

And I'm like, up until this point, like, I'm riding for Katie Perry.

Like, I'm like, the music is good.

No one's streaming Women's World more than me.

Like,

but, but actually, I think it had such a negative effect.

And I can only imagine how, what this interview, the effect it had on people who already were not feeling her, you know?

Like, I was giving her a chance to go.

I'm like,

I'm like watching the clip, like, okay, Katie, like, let's do it.

Come on.

What are we doing?

And she's like giggling.

I'll suck your neck if you like to with the dish.

She's like,

I was seriously like, ew.

Maybe if her partner wasn't the biggest movie star in the world, maybe if it was even like a smaller artist or a businessman, Bo, like, I could see him.

What is Orlando Bloom doing in the kitchen?

No, and by the way, now I understand all those news stories when she was on American Idol of her like saying out-of-pocket shit.

Like I really thought that she was getting like a bad edit.

Like I was seriously up until this point, like really writing for Katie and just choosing to see the best in her.

No, let me tell you, she has an absolutely dreadful personality and she just kind of adapts and says what she thinks the person she's talking to wants to hear.

So like I think that like she's never listened to this podcast.

Her, you know, publicists said it's like, you know, a sex podcast.

So she goes on there like, dick suck, cock, ha, ha.

Like, are you okay?

I thought it was seriously one of the worst inter.

And by the way, I didn't watch it.

No, and the clip, it was only one clip that we saw.

It's it's like meant to be like a highlight like here's like a trailer yeah a trailer and i was like oh if this is what's to come i'm sorry big katie there's no amount you could spend there's no amount of money big katie could spend on making me like her in this moment but let me say this and i'll say this

i will be listening to the album like the her music is really for me like the music i need these days i love you for i love you for life

And how sad that that's the one that's Dr.

Luke.

But I do find, like, I'm loving the bops.

The the bops are bopping like as she said the BPM is hitting like there's nothing wrong with the tracks.

I think they're like perfect perfect little tracks However, like I don't feel like a deep connection to the music and I think that's because you're separating the art from the artist like you can't have like we could dance and we can have fun, but it's not like making me like feel things and and when I listen to women's world too closely I'm like, what are you saying?

You have to listen to women's world while you're doing something else.

Yeah, like it's woman's world you're lucky to live like and we're not going nowhere.

Like where would we be going?

No, and I think that's actually a conversation we had recently because I had seen this article talking about how Dua Lipa has amassed a lot of success while seriously giving nothing to her music when it comes to personal references.

And that's kind of what Katy Perry is doing.

And Dua Lipa having success is a complete anomaly.

That's what that article was about.

It's not going to happen for Katy Perry.

It's not.

Yeah.

Or like.

Yeah, you'll get half, you'll get some streams and we're going to put on the party playlist, but like, it's not like making me feel closer to you as an artist and feel things.

No, and we had said when she was coming out with her new album that like we were really ready to give it a chance because she's really not released music for a while.

She went through this huge change.

She's in this really happy relationship.

She is a kid.

Like we're ready for that deeper Katie moment.

That's exactly what we said when she announced her album.

And the way she gave us the opposite of that is shocking.

Like it really points to a lack of self-awareness from her and whoever is like running her brand.

Yeah.

Also, I feel like I liked Woman's World more before I saw the music video.

And now when I listen to the song, I see the music video, video, like her just like flying.

Who is Katie Parr?

Who are you?

Every time I watch, listen to the song, I'm thinking like, who are you?

Because that's like, and it's, it's not a pleasant experience.

So for the rest of the album, I won't be watching music videos.

Like, I just want to enjoy the music.

No, and I won't be keeping up with Katie's press.

Like, I won't be watching interviews.

Like, seriously, I think it has a negative adverse effect on me.

Yeah, I can't take much more.

And I just want to say, like, everything she said about like the metamorphosis she's gone through being a mother, creating a heart, creating organs, like, yes, facts.

And like, that is so amazing.

And to not have that be its own conversation and instead it's like a shield.

To bring that up in defense of what she's doing.

Doctor, it's like, it's pretty.

And it's annoying because I would have liked to expand on that.

But instead, I'm like, wait, you didn't answer the question.

Can we go back to the question?

Yep.

It would have been better if it wasn't asked at all.

Agreed.

But do you think Alex could have gotten away with not asking it?

Yes.

Not with Katie, like amongst

listeners.

It's like the elephant in the room.

Um, yeah, like, I mean, I think she would have gotten backlash, but I think that happens, like, frequently with anyone who goes on.

Like, nobody, and everyone's such a big talker, right?

Like, I can't believe you didn't ask, you know how scary it is to ask that question.

Like, for real, seriously, I can never.

I'm like, I can't believe she didn't ask that.

Meanwhile, to me, I'm like, I love Dr.

Luke.

Like, it's scary.

For real.

And by the way, it's important to remember, like, these people aren't journalists.

This is not Diane Sawyer, right?

So we're just like, try to have fun, do our jobs, and like podcasts.

And so it's very easy for everyone to be like, oh, she never asked the right questions.

You do it.

You do it, bitch.

It's fucking scary.

Yeah.

Or like, you know, ask a follow-up question.

Like, hey, wait.

Yeah.

Hold on.

Hold on the organs for a second.

Wait, no.

And it's like, oh, I had the balls to ask this question about Dr.

Luke.

Like, you want me to answer a follow-up one?

No.

I don't think so.

I really don't think so.

No, seriously, wait.

So like, do you like Dr.

Luke then?

Me?

No, no, I'm like, that would be like the follow-up.

Like, so do you think he did it?

Yeah, of course.

But seriously, there are so many publicists, producers, everyone's watching, and like, you're in front of this megastar.

No, I think she got clearance to ask the one question.

She probably wasn't even listening to the answer.

She was like, I'm so happy to be done.

That's how I would have, like, seriously, that's how I would have handled it.

I'm really non-confrontational.

Yeah, yeah, that is so funny.

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

Some more podcast news.

Yeah.

A new podcast coming on the scene.

Hawktua Girl is starting a podcast called Talk Tua.

So her name is Haley Welch and I would really appreciate it if we start calling her by her name instead of Hawktua Girl.

But she's now the host of Talk Tua from Jake Paul's media company, Better.

She's doing her podcast with his company.

It debuts later this month.

It includes guests such as Whitney Cummings and Josh Richards.

Okay, wait, I didn't realize that Better was Jake Paul's company.

I think that's actually a great brand alignment.

I think like, you know, we we often are criticizing what people name things.

Their books, that's one of our,

I, and it's hard to name a podcast because really all the good ones are taken.

This is one of the best names I've ever heard.

Like, it's brilliant.

Yeah, it is.

And everything I've seen of her

since her viral fame, like every interview she's done or like clips I've seen, like, she seems like a great girl.

I think she's going to have a lot of success.

And I wish her the best.

The thing with podcasting is the cream always rises.

Right.

No one's going to sit down for an hour and a week and listen to crap.

Right.

Like, you could be the most fabulous person ever and like your podcast sucks.

It sucks.

Like, there's nothing that can help that.

So I wish her the best.

And, you know, I think this will be a real indicator of her success.

Like, is it 15 minutes or is it a lifetime?

As Katie feels like.

Yeah.

But I feel like she's setting herself up for like long-term success by not like, she's not doing all the obvious things so quickly.

Like she's really

building a solid foundation, I think, for a career.

And I think this is a great idea.

And she seems seems like she can talk.

I mean, that's why she went viral, right?

Cause she gave a great interview.

So that's really a major criteria for having a successful podcast.

Like, do you have interesting things to say?

And do people want to listen to you?

And I really feel like she's got it.

So I completely agree.

I wish her the best in the space.

Yep.

And it's, you know, I'd love to see another women, woman in the industry.

Other women and women in the industry, agreed.

Other women in the industry, yeah.

Yeah.

So are you ready for our next story?

It's our

fifth and final duo?

It's our fifth and final duo story, a little women of food network news making news.

Formerly of Food Network.

I don't think either of them are associated with the channel anymore.

Yes, but for us, like they all are.

To me, they represent like the heyday of Food Network.

They remind me of our grandma.

Yeah.

First up, fans are seriously concerned for Rachel Ray as she appears to slur words in a new cooking video.

So fans say they're seriously concerned for Miss Rach as she appears to slur her words in a new cooking video.

The chef took to Instagram on Monday to pay tribute to the late Tony Bennett by making his favorite dish asobuco, which consists of braised veal shanks with polenta and bread in the video she recalls a story of how she almost killed tony bennett because she polished the floors seriously i watched a video

i i know i was bored enough the first time i don't want to go into it a second time now the thing is is that i think anybody who watched the video in full like couldn't even tell you what the video was about because they were looking at her like i

Half the comments, the people were split and I actually agreed with them.

People really thought that she appeared to have had a stroke because half of her face is sort of sunken and you know, one half of her mouth like is pointed downwards while the other remains, you know, typical.

And then with the slurring of the words, a lot of people thought that she was drunk.

So I think both of those are decent analyses.

I hope she's okay.

I watched the video like knowing that people were saying she was slurring.

I didn't like really hear a slur.

It was just like kind of like a wild video to me.

I can't explain why just like the accents and the asabuko and Tony Bennon.

Like she killed Tony Bennett.

Oh, Rachel Ray.

It was like that chaotic Rachel Ray energy, even though we know

it's been 15 years.

Like she's still that girl where I was like, What am I watching?

She is still like in that retro-looking 30-minute meals kitchen.

That show was a cultural reset, like for mothers everywhere.

Like, she seriously was lessons in chemistry.

She was.

And of course, like any great cooking show, a part of me was like, should I be making asubuko?

I think it's really hard.

And I don't know if it's like kid-friendly.

Oh, it wouldn't like really.

I mean, they love beef, but it would be like it's veal.

Oh,

sad.

I've never made veal.

I only like to deal with

to deal with like ground chicken beef and turkey because it doesn't feel like an animal anymore.

No, I agree, and it's like so little, and like you break it up, and it's like not offensive.

Like, opening like a thick piece of beef, like when it's like raw in the middle, oh my god, it's like call animal control, or when you're doing like a whole chicken, like and you have to get the gizzards.

Yep, I will excuse myself.

That's just not for me you can purchase a gizzard free you can

i haven't i haven't made a whole chicken in like a really long time

well back to miss rach i really hope she's okay she is a queen but i also feel like she must be okay because she put this video out like it's not like someone caught her on video like messing things up like

This is a very produced piece of content.

That's true.

She's giving us the best of Rach's self.

But I feel like that reminds me a lot of like in Jessica Simpson's book, she talked about like at the height of her alcoholism, like you're still functioning to a point where like you think no one knows, right?

Yeah, yeah, but you're right that that Rachel Ray has like a whole team for all of her content, and I think there's like 8,000 people it needs to go through before it gets to air.

But what we've seen in the past is like you'd be surprised how many things get published and you know, aired that are so disgraceful and how many people had to look at it, you know?

Yeah, I think in thinking about it further, like I think this is that classic chaotic Rachel Ray energy.

Okay.

Just like I think she's having health.

I don't think she's an alcoholic.

I think she's having like health issues.

And I think she's fine now.

And

she had a something, something.

Right.

What is it also, Belle's palsy when your face freezes?

Yeah.

I think she might be going through it health-wise and maybe she doesn't want to share it because people are entitled to medical privacy and maybe we all need to like give Miss Rachin space.

We're entitled to medical privacy while also sharing our fave Osobuco recipe.

Like two things can be true.

What am I doing?

Holding your Asobucco recipe that you made for Tony Bennett when you almost killed him and privately, perhaps, having something medical that you're struggling with.

And I'm holding space for both of those things.

It's as easy as that, folks.

That's the Aina.

How easy is that?

How easy is that?

Well, our part two of Food Network is a lot of fun.

I can't believe we spent the entire summer in the Hampens and didn't see Ina once.

We didn't go, we didn't do the Aina tour.

Like, we didn't go to the places that she frequents.

It's true.

Like, we know where she could be spotted, and we avoided them, like, the plague.

Yeah, like,

I'm not going to put down any like local great establishment.

But she wasn't where we were.

She wasn't where we were.

Our fifth fifth and final story, another food network queen, Sandra Lee, says that she gained 10 pounds judging a Netflix baking competition.

Oh, that's funny.

Yeah, Sandra Lee told Page Six she gained 10 pounds in one month while judging a baking competition for Netflix.

Honestly, everyone was having a swirly summer.

Ain't that the truth?

She's fronting the news show Blue Ribbon Baking Competition in which champion bakers from state fairs across the U.S.

face off for the first time in an epic baking showdown to win top honors and $100,000.

It's their job to sample the goods and pick the hottest bakers.

And she took it seriously, at least if her scale is anything to go by.

That is so funny.

She said we had to eat everything we had to taste, absolutely everything.

It was four weeks of a sugar high.

And it's not just tasting the dessert.

You also have to break it down and taste the cake separately or the crust separately, different from the filling or from the icing.

And sometimes you have to eat more than one portion.

I easily gained 10 pounds, she said.

Dream job.

Like seriously, dream fucking job.

And I love to see Sandra Lee out here getting work, you know, because the food space is really crowded.

Yeah.

I think it's hard to stand out.

And it's really changed.

She and Rach, and Rach sort of like built her own empire after Food Network with the Rachel Rachi show.

She had the line of dog food, the line of human food, the line of kitchenwares.

Like she really created like I have her, um, some of her oven baking sheets.

And I'm sure they're fabulous, no?

Yeah, they just don't fit in in my oven here anymore.

It's like a waste, but

hiding my caraway ones.

I think the ladies of that time on Food Network had to sort of scramble and do their own thing.

And I think Sandra Lee very much fell into like being being a socialite who used to have a show on Food Network and used to be a little bit more familiar with

the governor.

Yeah.

She was married to the governor, yeah, before he, you know, was no longer the governor.

Forced to step down.

And so I think it's been hard for her to find a space for herself in this new, very like internet focused, TikTok-y cooking space.

And I love that she's getting, you know, booked on gigs.

I think that's huge.

Yeah.

I recently have fallen down like an algorithmic rabbit hole of old Sandra Lee, semi-homemade, but Sandra Lee videos.

And like the things that she used to make were seriously so crazy.

It's been kind of one of the joys of my life to see when they surface, like to watch them from start to finish.

It's insane.

Not just even like two shots Sandra Lee.

Like the time she made a baked potato out of ice cream because it's hard to get your family to eat ice cream unless you make it look like a brown baked potato.

No, and seriously, that was a very like, you had to be there at the time, like the early Food Network days, like

what year was that?

We were like in middle school, like 2005, 6, 7.

Like it just hit different.

You had to be there to get it.

Those were the days Desperate desperate housewives was on the air

ug boots mini skirts

boots with the fur like we were living life we didn't even know what we had we didn't even know flip phones

flip phones like sound mental health chapstick like flavored chips juicy tubes

juicy tubes hit clay rosebud salve for when your lips were actually chapped

salve like those are the days the oldston twins we just let it we took it all for granted.

Oh, to be young.

That's what the youth is wasted on the young.

Ain't that the truth?

Oh, kind of Major Adele news.

You know, she finished her residency or she's finishing her residency.

And when she was singing, oh, I'm so mad.

I'm getting old.

It makes me red.

She changed it.

Too?

Glad?

Oh, I'm so glad I'm getting old.

Like, seriously, I love that.

She always, that song always makes me cry.

Yes.

Oh, I love that.

What?

That's like a cultural shift.

We should start a list of songs that like are guaranteed to always make us cry.

In case you don't live.

Yeah, that's a real one.

I don't cry.

Let me

cry all the time from when we were young.

No, that one I just can't even listen to because like why ruined my day?

I have things to do.

But when we were young, like I love that song.

Like it's emotional, but like I can, I can handle it.

Oh, I can't.

I'm strong enough.

I'm strong enough to live without you.

Oh, that was like really off K.

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All right, are you ready for Dear Toasters, Jax, our weekly advice segment?

I am ready, Turt.

Okay, so every Wednesday, Jax and I do Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment, where we we try to help the girlies out.

You can write us, send us an email, dear toasters at gmail.com, or head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com, and you can write in, you know, whatever's plaguing you, relationships, friendships, weddings, work, things of that nature.

And I have selected three submissions today.

And if my iPad would just refresh, I would be able to share those with you.

I would love to hear the submissions that have been selected once your iPad does refresh itself.

We'll use my phone to start until it refreshes.

Okay.

Okay.

Hello, swirlies.

I am getting a breast reduction in two weeks, and my P jump of a husband has been really supportive.

However, last night he told me he wants to do a boudoir photo shoot before the surgery so that he can look back at my larger boobs whenever he wants to.

I'm not opposed to boudoir photo shoots in general, but my husband knows that one of the major reasons I'm getting a reduction is because I don't feel sexy with these larger breasts and they make me incredibly insecure.

I really don't want to do the photo shoot, but I also don't want to take away his joy.

Any advice?

Should I suck it up and do it or stand my ground and not do it?

For context, I lost about 30 pounds last year.

Shout out to Ozempic.

Everywhere except my breasts.

So now I'm dealing with severe back pain from carrying around G cups on a smaller frame.

I'm going down to a C cup, so still not tiny, and I'll still maintain my milk ducks for breastfeeding.

This is a story that hits really close because Jackie and I, you know, one day

the days that we will be getting our breasts, we will go in together.

We'll take the whole week off.

Like we are getting breastfeeding.

It will be when we're both done having all of our kids.

Like it will be the greatest day.

So I'm so happy for you.

Let's just, before we get into your husband ruining things, let's talk about how excited we are for you.

It's such, it's an exciting time in a young girl's life and we are so happy and also jealous.

So congrats for taking the leap.

It's huge.

This is something like you are doing for yourself.

And I need you to tell your husband to fuck all the way off.

Don't you dare do this photo shoot for him.

Yeah.

Also, it can be a sexy boudoir photo shoot if you're not like feeling yourself, right?

Like, it's not going to, pictures aren't going gonna come out like the way he thinks because you have to be in that mood and that's not how you feel right now so i don't think like it could really even be achieved and you shouldn't put yourself in an uncomfortable situation like that and it's like you don't want to remember so i think he needs to like move on from that but i would be curious from toasters in the comments like i feel like sometimes when women get a breast reduction like their husbands are you know It's not what they would have wanted.

They love

the big titties.

But then you get like a new boobs and a C Cup is a lovely set.

Like, how do the husbands feel about the new boobs?

I feel like we never get like an update.

Like, do they?

Yeah, because husbands are wrong about everything, right?

So, like, they're sitting here crying, like, my big titted wife, like, blah, blah, blah.

And then next thing you know, in a month, he's got like a porn star for a wife.

She's got perfect tits.

And he never brings it up again because he's very happy.

I'm just curious, do they know, are they very happy?

Do they like move on?

Do they lament about the old boobs?

Can someone who's like, or I'm sure a lot of you have like been in this situation, like, can you sound off?

What happens next?

Like, is it, does it only get better from here?

And you just need to tell him, like, wait, you're going to be happy?

Or do they, like, sit around every day, like, here lies Shannon, like, here lies my wife's former boobs?

No, this is just annoying because, like, this is a thing you're doing for yourself, right?

Obviously, for your confidence, because you're saying you're struggling with feeling sexy, but also for your physical health, like, your back is killing you.

We have all been there, okay?

So, the fact that he's making this about himself is very turdy-coated and beyond unacceptable.

Like,

do first of all, like tangible advice, please do not do this photo shoot.

Like, I think it actually sets a bad precedent that like this milestone for you becomes about your dumbass husband, Okay.

And, like, tell him just to keep up with the support and shut the fuck up.

Yeah.

I just, the photo shoot is like a lot of to do something that you don't want to do.

Yeah.

It's not like, okay, I'll go to this dinner.

It's like a photo shoot.

Yeah.

I have to get all gussied up and it's expensive too, like to have those things done.

Like, please, seriously, like, do not do it.

And the fact that you said, I don't want to do it, like, you have to get stripped down.

Like, do not do it.

Yeah.

Wishing you well.

Wishing you well.

Now, this next one is so crazy.

And, you know, this is a scenario where we kind of just need to take the toaster and shake her.

Okay.

A shaken toaster.

Hello, Jackson Turdy.

Longtime toaster here.

I'm in desperate need of your advice.

I think my boyfriend is lying about his job and his apartment.

When we started dating,

he said he worked security for a sports team.

He told me detailed stories about the job, the players, et cetera.

He has since quit the job just before the season started.

And a source who has a connection to the security team just revealed that my boyfriend's name doesn't sound familiar.

I've asked him about the security company he worked for, and the company does not exist according to Google and he doesn't ever want to continue talking about it.

Additionally, he tells me he has his own apartment in the city and he has shown me pictures of it.

However, he says he prefers to be in the suburbs at his parents' house and he once told me we couldn't stay the night at his apartment after a wedding because his grandma was sick and she was staying there.

I feel really icky about this, but I don't want to accuse him of anything because everything else about our relationship is 10 out of 10.

I love him and I legit feel like he's the one.

Do I do some digging, hire a PI?

I'm a concerned swirly who may soon be a heartbroken.

Your relationship is 10 out of 10, but you want to hire a PI?

That's not 10 out of of 10.

If you can't even trust a word that comes out of his mouth about basic things, you have to confront him and then also be prepared to dump him.

Like I want to say break up with your boyfriend, but like maybe there's a logical explanation.

Maybe he's jobless.

Maybe he is living at home.

Of course he's living at home and maybe he's ashamed and maybe he can cop to those things.

And maybe if he can, then your 10 out of 10 relationship can move forward.

But like you've got to get to the bottom of what he's lying about.

No, and I would say like, you know, you don't know anything until you ask, right?

Although the evidence is really, like, grandma wasn't staying grandma wasn't staying downtown when she was sick right like she was at the hospital or she was at maybe her kids house which is your parents house like who goes to stay at a bachelor pad what grandma stays at a bachelor pad downtown when they're sick no and i really worry that like you've been in this relationship and you've never seen his apartment and that didn't raise a red flag for you at all and i think you're you probably you honestly sound like a hopeless romantic and i think that actually just really is blurring your vision like i think you're making you know, decision, bad decisions.

I think it must be a five, six month relationship due to the fact that it was a sports thing.

Like, and he wasn't working because it wasn't the season.

And now the season's starting again.

So it's probably five, six months, and she's trying to like figure out, okay, yeah, it's weird.

I haven't gone to his apartment.

And I think now is the time to ask questions.

And I'm sorry, your relationship can't be 10 out of 10 when you don't have trust.

Like you don't trust him.

You don't believe him.

Like, how do you even believe that when he says he's going to go do that?

Like, you have to get to the bottom of this and be prepared to end the relationship because he's a liar

but if he has like a really good i'm gonna hold out hope that if he has a really good reason for lying this could be like a sitcom like obviously the the map the evidence is so obvious and then you ask and there's like a perfectly logical explanation yeah it's like oh like my grandma lost her job and she's in my apartment and she didn't want you to like whatever me to tell you and so i move back home with my parents even though like why wouldn't grandma move to the parents house i don't know jackie this man is homeless and jobless okay let's just put it there and and those things that could change in a day you know you could get a job in a home

tomorrow so that's not necessarily a deal breaker the lying is the deal breaker that you can't become a non-liar tomorrow and i just fear like based on the way you wrote it like you sound

like you just don't want to believe it and like it really like your man's lying so you have to confront him yeah things shouldn't be so confusing simple things should not be so confusing yeah

Our third and final one is a touchy subject.

Hey, Pargies, so glad you're back because I really need your help.

My boyfriend and I don't agree on a touchy subject.

I want to sell feet pics and he is not on board.

Well, I can see why he hates the idea.

I feel the benefits way outweigh the cons.

It's incredibly lucrative.

I don't have to show my face and I vetted the sites where I can be safe.

I love my boyfriend and I don't want to lie to him, but I have school loans.

Signed a business swirly.

I don't see the downside with feet.

That's exactly what she's saying.

It's extremely lucrative.

Your personal information is not out there.

Pictures of your face are not out there.

Nobody's ever known lucrative.

I think so.

I think if you've got good feet, I don't think anybody can just be out here making money.

I don't feel that.

But it's a low lift.

Lucrative.

I feel like that argument.

If there's enough volume of it, it's like kind of a cameos, right?

You could do it, you know, 25 bucks.

That's not a lot of money.

You do 20 a day.

But remember, they on Vanderpump Rules, they did feet pics to raise money for Raquel's nose job, and they couldn't raise money.

And those are like a lot of attractive girls, famous, even.

I don't know if

like Vanderpump Rules is a fair like reference I just feel like if feet pics were really and truly like a very lucrative space like wouldn't everyone do it Jackie I think a lot of people do it like that and because it's so anonymous like you don't know about it and they just move on with their life and honestly it sounds like she's also done a decent amount of research and she knows what she could be earning because if it's enough to make a significant debt in your school loans like girl do it i'm sorry yeah i don't i really just don't see the downside if it's like all this money's waiting for you are we missing something is there a big downside sound off in the comments like i don't think i guess like you could have like it's creepy people who are now like invested in you maybe you could get some stalkers

yeah but if you don't share any of your personal information like how do you you're just like get stalkers recording creepiness freaks hoarding freaks yeah you need to go into the

process knowing like everyone all your customers are seriously like unwell and don't tell them anything about you Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's not like you're mailing them.

Like you're literally texting them.

Like

I don't see the downside, but I don't know what the downside would be.

I don't know enough about the industry.

I think you should do that.

But I also think like,

also, he's your boyfriend, like you're still making decisions for yourself.

Like he doesn't get that much of a no ring, no decision to do.

No bring to the table.

Unless he wants to pay your student loans or has a better idea for how you could do so.

I love that.

Why doesn't he make the monthly payments to thegov.gov?

Yeah.

Also, kind of a theme I'm sensing from the first and the third submission is like, and one is a husband and one's a boyfriend, but it's the same sort of theme:

do whatever you want.

Like, please don't.

Like, men are so dumb.

Like, if you listen to everything they say, you'll be worse off.

Like, make your own decisions.

Only you know best.

You know what's best for yourself.

And it's important to consult your husband on like important things, but like when it comes to your boobs, that's your own business.

When it comes to your feet and it's your boyfriend, that's your own business.

It's important to consult your husband on important things, but like when it's your boyfriend, boyfriend,

you don't get the same sort of reverence.

You don't get the same say.

You just don't.

You don't.

You don't.

Maybe if you married me, you could have a say.

Yeah.

And these loans become our loans.

I think that's a perfect solution.

Yeah, I know.

If he's like contributing towards the loans, and in a marriage, that's how it works.

Like, of course, you have a say in how we pay these off.

Yeah.

But until then, respectfully, shut the fuck up.

And grab the camera and start clicking.

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