What Did Tommy Do?: Thursday, August 15th, 2024

Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

Happy Thursday.

Happy Thursday.

Today is a huge day at the toast.

It's a huge day.

It is.

Let me think.

Let me think.

Why?

It's August 15th.

Bruno's birthday.

Oh my God.

Wait.

Okay.

Time flies so fast in life.

Let me tell you.

It was 30 seconds ago that it was Bruno's last birthday.

We were together.

And at the end of the day, you turned to me and you said, oh my God, I forgot.

It's Bruno's birthday.

By the way, that was two years ago because the last year on Bruno's birthday, I was in the hospital having given birth to Charlie.

But I just want to say, I was with Bruno on his birthday last year.

That's true.

I just want to say Charlie being born the day before Bruno's birthday is the best thing that ever happened to Bruno because I'm always like, Charlie's the 14th, Bruno's the 15th.

Like, as we were wrapping up celebrations last night, festivities continued into the wee hours because it's Bruno's birthday today.

I think if seriously, somebody put a gun to my head and said, Tell me the day that Bruno was born, I would have said

October 11th.

Like, I seriously, August 19th.

It might have been the day that we got him, October 11th.

We got him in October.

I didn't say October 11th because I thought it meant anything.

I would have said January 12th.

Like I seriously, I had no idea.

How old is this big boy today?

He's four.

Oh my God, you're such a little young hot baby.

My baby is four.

My oldest, my eldest boy.

I can't help but look at Bruno and feel like a little sad.

He reminds me of Theo.

Yeah, and he's happy to fill,

attempt to fill those shoes.

He's such a good boy.

He's such a good boy.

We've gotten his Praetor Willie under control in recent weeks, and i'm really happy well he's just living out his summer like he said diet starts in september literally possible to control him here like there's food flying everywhere there's little hands everywhere

there's there's not a place to cage him or even put him behind a gate that's a really crazy way to be like leaving your big overflowing coffee see my big coffee like dad got it for me he said to me this morning do you want a big delicious coffee from goldbergs okay but jackie like to not even have it like it's on my on my paper towel Listen, I don't like it.

That's a really eerie way.

Like, I just feel, I do this every day.

Did you know that?

Yesterday I sat here with a cup that had no lid on it.

You're psychotic, bro.

Like literally psychotic.

You know what I'll do?

I'll drink some so that it's not teetering over.

I don't know.

I feel like we've been podcasting for a long time and I haven't like even brought up the fact that I'm wearing an arm brace.

Because you took a back seat for Bruno's birthday, which was

also we don't have any like gates I can put in behind.

So he's just riding out this summer.

It's big boy summer.

Listen, it's big girl summer.

I have not stopped eating.

I saw pictures of myself from this event that we went to.

I'm like, oh, I'm back to where I was.

Like, I'm huge.

No, I have not stopped eating.

Like, it's really making me sad.

But, like, my goal, it's important to like, when you have goals, to really focus on them, be a little toxic about them, like tunnel vision until you get to your goals.

But, like, I achieved my goals, and then this summer was meant to enjoy.

And like, I am enjoying.

I'm not in like turbo diet mode.

No.

And I couldn't if I if I even wanted to be.

I've tried.

I can't.

When I go home and we are apart, like, I will get back on my grind.

And same for Bruno.

So like big boy summer.

Big girl summer.

Big person summer.

BPS.

Until further notice.

Like until Labor Day.

That's when I'll be laboring in the gym once again.

Swirly summer is over.

It's big girl summer.

It is.

Like, whatever.

We're wearing sweats on the pod.

I don't fucking care.

We are wearing pictures.

What did you expect?

We're both wearing boys' lie.

And I'm wearing a boys' eye set that I've never worn.

And you were like, oh, boys, lie.

And then you told me that they canceled.

Margo sent it to me yesterday.

I think a lot of people were waiting to see what they were going to do because they had this big collab coming up with Brooks Kofielt, who's obviously going through.

Oh, and I kind of wanted to talk about that because I know you don't know, but there's like, there's not an update or anything, but there's been like a major change in tune from Tana.

Okay.

I've like started like watching videos about it.

So now my TikTok only serves me.

Like, what's going on in Tana World?

And some guy made a video.

It was really well said.

He was just like,

You're the canceled podcast.

Like you're known for saying out of pocket things and now you're canceling your co-host.

Like he kind of like served facts.

and I think like the general feedback from the audience of people who watch a show is like oh my god I think Tana thought she was gonna come out the hero like look I'm not standing with this and people are like girl you've done worse and that's literally your best friend like okay throw her under the bus scruples where are you the reaction immediately was like uh ew and i don't think she was expecting that because she like went out of her way to like kick her friend to the side to come out looking like the hero and she comes out looking like the villain so she commented on this guy's tick tock i had just watched it because i thought it was interesting and i just was scrolling the comments and she was like i fully agree she commented tana so i think she's really changing her tune i I think she tried one route and it didn't work, and now she's gonna

try another one.

Um,

but yeah, wait, and the other one being

forgiveness for Brooke, like standing by your friend, you know, you can you know, disagree with your friend set without throwing them under the fucking bus, right?

And you can say, You can, two things can be true.

Like, you know, I don't agree with that, but I don't think Brooke is a terrible person.

And if you did think Brooke was a terrible person, you're the one who gave her this platform.

No, but why were you friends with her?

If you know her to be a good person, which I imagine, that's what I was trying to say.

Like, if you listen to people and you like them, and then you find out that they've made mistakes in their past, like, and they totally disavow those things, you have to like assume good intention because you like this person.

Did you not think that they were like an honest, good, whatever they say, they mean sort of person?

Otherwise, what the fuck are you listening to?

So it was interesting to watch how like things play out.

Right.

And this, we said our big take on the initial episode where we talked about this was like this was handled really poorly.

And it's so interesting to see how like, you know, the internet's approval like is so wishy-washy.

Like you go from one day being like a hero, next day being a villain.

And And I feel like that's really what happened with Tana.

Um, it can be like a lesson to, I think, a lot of people with platforms.

It's like to make decisions, like, in your business and in your life, based on what you really feel is right and good, not based on what you think the audience will like, because more often than not, like, they see right through you.

Yeah.

And you might get it totally wrong.

And then, look, like, you totally

were not yourself, and you said things, and you were bad to your friends because for these people, and that actually isn't even, so you can't predict it, which is why you should just do what feels right to you.

And that way, if it doesn't go well you can still feel good about yourself that you did the thing that you thought was right however it might go well because like people appreciate that it's so much easy and we were talking about this on the initial episode when we discussed it like you know we it's so easy to say these things right but like when you're going through like a big cancellation like it really feels like the world is closing in on you like you can't even think straight like you really don't know what the right decision is and you also can't see out of your own shit and you think it's like the biggest deal in the world so and you know kind of like my thing is like when people get canceled something they always find their way to me like I've spoken to every person who's ever gotten canceled, and

they all like they're in the thick of it, right?

And they can't see out.

And, like, me, I'm like, it's actually like nothing of a deal, you know?

Um, but they can't see out of it.

So, like, you know, it's easier to, it's easy to say, like, this is what they should have done.

But in those moments, it's like really hard to make the right decision.

Yes, it's almost impossible.

It is.

And I also feel like, even though we were saying, like, people are still doing this, I feel like we all have sort of become like fatigued at this trope.

And I think a lot of people have realized that this is like, this happens, and people apologize and say that they're sorry.

And, like, you know, know it is move on move on and we're not gonna seriously like

ruin someone's life like when because of something they tweeted in high school like 10 years ago so I was like shocked that this still like has legs but now I'm also realizing like I feel like this is Gen Z's like first cancellation no what I thought you were gonna say that I thought was a good point but now you gave me the idea I think that I don't think people's old tweets still have power like I don't think people getting exposed I think this was by all parties handled so poorly it made it bigger than it could have been if they had just been like, oh yeah, we know how bad, how embarrassing.

Oh my God, like seriously kill me.

I obviously don't see it, but yes.

And then moved on with another episode.

They made it as big as they could possibly be.

At every turn, like it just got magnified and they still don't move on from it.

So we're still in it.

No, but I feel like Gen Z like hasn't had that experience yet where their faves, like they find out unfavorable things about them.

They have to let they're going through everything that like our

millennials went through five years ago.

So they're, it's like repeating itself.

I don't know.

I don't know how Gen Z the canceled pot is like it's very internet but i don't know if it's very gen z

because it's like a lot of it's like people who drink you know but they're very young they're like 27.

i thought brooke is like 24 24 and 27 yeah that's gen z is it yeah margo's gen z so close to gen z look at me when i think of gen z like i seriously think of 14.

i think that's the next one at this point because gen z used to be 14 when

six years ago when we were talking about them.

I was just watching scrolling TikTok when I was getting ready.

And I just, I need TikTok to like come out with a feature where like I can be doing my makeup with both hands or like my hand.

And it just goes to the next one.

Yeah, like once the video's done, go to the next one.

Or if I don't like it, I could just go like something.

I need like, you know what?

I think that's what those Apple goggles are, whatever.

Or like Neuralink.

So I got served this like long clip from the BFF's pod of them talking about it.

And I was actually really shocked by like how bad everyone's take was on the situation, except for Josh Richards.

Like Josh Richards was coming in like true voice of reason.

And I think he was also the one in the group who like knew the most about it.

Cause like this is, he lives in LA and like these are his like kind of friends.

And he was just the one being like, okay, you threw your your friend out of the best Hannah you've done worse like he was really the one serving facts I was like oh my God because I expected Dave to come out be like so anti-cancel culture but he was just kind of being like I don't know like wishy-washy about it what was he saying he was like you know what does Tana do in a situation like that like she obviously like you know doesn't agree with it I was like well of course right he was like I don't know what I would have done it's like you're always like big talk like cancel culture and then like I don't know.

I thought it was really weird.

That is weird.

What did Brianna say?

She was kind of like just being quiet, letting the other two talk, like chiming in when I feel that's like her thing on the podcast.

I feel like she's like speaks when spoken to yeah and like josh had strong feelings about it and dave was like well what do we do you know and i was like this is like a bad take What I, yeah, I think that's a bad take.

But it was just a clip.

So it's like not fair to make like general statements out there.

Did they make the clips?

No, no, no.

It's like a fan edit.

A third party.

Third-party perspective.

Yeah.

With no particular interest in the matter.

Yeah, that's like what's confusing.

Like when someone makes the clip and they like leave out critical context, it's like, well, you played yourself.

Yeah.

People are always doing that to us.

When it's a, no, that would be like us making it.

Yeah.

If it's a third party, then they might be taking out context purposely.

I tried to bring this up, but you just sort of like breeze past it.

Like, I'm wearing a brace on my thumb.

We didn't even get to my original point, which is that we're both wearing boys' lie.

Oh, yeah, and they canceled their collab.

They released a statement.

Um, I think a lot of people were waiting to see what they were going to do.

When was this stuff supposed to drop?

Like, soon, they did a photo shoot and everything.

I think it was like already, like, it was like a couple of days ago.

And what does it mean to cancel the collab?

Like, are you going to be donating all the clothes that Burke had a hand in?

Or

you can get a racing brook.

A graphic.

I don't really know.

This girl's face is covering it.

So they are donating a portion of the proceeds.

They're giving everyone a 15% code with Brat Summer.

Brats.

This girl's making a TikTok about it.

Like, move your fucking face.

I can't see it.

Brat.

Oh, my God.

My straw is Brat Summer.

It's Brat Summer for Jackie O.

She's very demure.

She's very mindful.

I saw such a funny tweet that it was like last month you guys were brats and this month you're demure and mindful.

Sure.

Sure, right.

You really can't be both.

No, you seriously can't.

A cornerstone of Brat Summer is not being mindful at all.

Or the mule.

It was Charlie XCX who said, like, we're throwing our moral compasses out the window.

Right.

And the thing is, like, it's not a get-you-a-girl who can do both situations.

No.

Now, is it okay if we talk about my brace?

And are you going to sign it?

I need to get a sharpie.

I will sign it for you.

I don't want to get into it.

You know, it's kind of personal, but I've just been having like a thumb issue.

I looked it up.

I think it's this thing called trigger finger.

And this actually is also a thumb.

I had tendinitis in a couple of years ago.

Trigger finger from what are you triggering?

No, the tendons.

Like, it's not about.

You triggered your tendon.

Yeah.

I triggered my tendon.

From what?

Being on on your phone?

They didn't say.

They didn't say.

And it's my left.

So, like, no.

It's not tech thumb?

I don't think so.

This brace, like, wasn't recommended by a doctor.

It's not an official prescription or anything.

I just like ordered it on Amazon because I needed it.

Because you want attention.

Because, and yes, because it's like, I can't wait for school to start, so everybody can ask me what happened and then they can sign my brace.

We talk about like your big swirly summer.

Correct.

My big girl summer.

Your big girl summer will sign your brace.

It's kind of a small one, so like close friends.

It's a good thing I only have one classmate.

And Brunus and Runus.

Brunus and Runus and December.

print.

Oh, another huge update in Swirly Summer is Margo's coming out this weekend.

So, like, what are we going to do?

Joel, Cratchel, Thatchel, Hatchel.

That's what we need.

Like, Swirly Summer is an amazing, amazing institution, but it needs a dose of satch.

It needs a dose of satchel of satchel.

And we're also headed low-key in a classic kind of way to Atlantic City on Saturday.

Jackson I are performing at the Borgata Casino.

Yeah, that's right.

It's going to be sick.

It's going to be lit.

Tickets available at thetoastpodcast.com slash tour.

It's our final show of the live podcast.

We've got some big things up our sleeve.

And I know we say that a lot.

We're always like, we're doing big things.

And then it's just like us sitting on the couch.

No, I feel like we don't overhype stuff except for that one time.

Right.

And we got in trouble.

What?

When we were like clickbaiting something and everybody was like, this is not like the business of influencing.

Remember that?

Or no, no, no.

Like that Patreon episode we did.

You remember.

Don't make me bring it up.

Okay.

Don't make me bring it up.

I was talking about like when we had like big Jizno announcement and like just the vibe was giving like full tour.

Right.

And it turned out to be like one more show, which is this show.

Right, right, right.

But we do, as like, it's kind of celebratory, very bookend, the tour, we have something major planned.

And it's something we've never done before.

It's something I'm so excited about.

And you're just going to have to come to see.

Yeah.

Not to be like really annoying, but this is a situation where like I'm hyping something up for a good reason.

Yeah.

So that's very exciting.

So yeah, be jealous if you're not there.

And I mean, we could get into the stories.

I feel like they're good.

I saw your iPad.

They are good.

I have a lot to discuss regarding Molly Mae and Tommy.

And on the one hand, like we should get to it.

But on the other hand, like I am dreading it.

Yeah.

Also,

you just reminded me about a TikTok I made, I wanted to make of you.

So I'm just going to do it right now.

I know.

It's like a live talk.

Yeah.

Okay.

What am I doing?

So it's like people being like,

I wasn't going to drink tonight.

Like, you do it with someone.

I wasn't going to drink tonight, but you know, I just remember Joan Rivers died.

And then you said, she's like, you weren't going to drink tonight.

But Molly Mae and Tommy just

their breakup.

Okay.

So I have to say that.

No, no, no.

You just drink.

Like.

Oh, and I can drink my drink.

You can drink your coffee.

You're Brat summer coffee.

Your Brat summer coffee, correct.

Okay, wait, hold on.

Let me find it.

Like this.

Wasn't drinking tonight, but.

Oh, okay, great.

So I'm going to put you in slow-mo and you're just going to be like drinking.

Drinking.

Okay.

This is so exciting.

Like live content creation.

Oh, look, there's me.

How do I look from that angle?

Well, I'm going to move the angle to get some better lighting.

Let me put it on slow-mo.

I kind of like want straight-on lighting.

We'll put it in half speed or slow speed.

I think half is enough.

Okay, ready?

Three, two, one.

Go.

You don't have to rush.

Don't worry.

Look sad.

Okay, how's that?

I think I looked sad.

You don't like it?

No, I think it's great.

Okay.

I think it's really premium.

Love that.

Really incredible stuff.

Okay, good.

I'm so glad that we were able to work it out on the remix, as CharlieXTX would say.

And one thing about me, I'm a one-take-wonder.

People have been saying work it out on the remix for like the last couple of weeks, and I didn't know what it was a reference to.

And thankfully, like, somebody made a TikTok explaining it to me.

Apparently, Charlie XTX and Lord like fucking hated each other and then made a song where they worked it out on the remix.

And like the verses is like them

like literally talking.

Debating.

No, no, not even debating.

It's like one verse is Charlie, one versus Lord.

And like they're just kind of telling their sides of the story.

It's like, well, I went and I was speechless when I woke up to your voicemail.

Like it's literally not rhyming.

It's literally like slam poetry.

It's so funny.

And now I know why people have been saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jesus died for our sins.

That's literally what it sounds like.

Um, and now I understand, like, work it out on the remix.

Got it.

And what's the song called?

They said, like, who are two people working it out on the remix or something?

It's not called the remix, and then they worked it out on the remix.

Okay, let me let me just triple-check.

Like, Brad Summer is like kind of a blind spot for me, and I'm working on like being better.

Brad, you are, even as Brad Summer comes to a close.

No, like, yeah, that's so me.

Okay, here, Brad album.

The song.

I feel like I have successfully dodged Brad Summer, except for my straw.

The straw sucked me in.

Oh, track list.

Okay.

What?

I don't see it.

Is it like on the deluxe album or something?

I can't type with this stupid phrase.

Work it out on the remix, Lord Charlie.

That's not going to work.

Girl, so confusing featuring Lord.

Oh, okay.

And so this has kind of been like a question post on the internet that Jackie, who do you think are two people who should work it out on the remix?

Kim and Taylor.

They should work it out on the remix.

yeah i love that

so what about me and cuba we should work it out no some things like aren't meant to work out like seriously what is he gonna do say sorry like what does that do i mean it wouldn't hurt like

it's a starting like the jumping off point it's true are you a forgiving person oh that's a really good question it just and i can't make a blanket statement yes or no it really does it depends on the crime and the apology like where in my life like am i in like a fibisina miserable place in my life like some days you're just like experiencing you ever been in a a fibissana miserable place in your life like we know turtle she's a ray of light stop i'm a ray of light like i'm so joyous it's actually like if you got like stepped on something like then or like stub your toe or like you know a small inconvenience wait i'm cracking up this or like got a bug bite i have recently especially like since being in a house with so many other people like thought about my my sort of role in this house and just like what it must be like to live with me you know um and call me crazy but i feel like it's a delight like i keep i always think i'm like i would love if there was somebody of like equal radiance like not that you're not, I'm just saying, like, I would love to live in a house with myself, you know?

You would literally hate that person.

Because one thing about you, like, you're also like jealous and competitive with people.

So true.

Oh, shit.

With people who are like you.

Listen, I can't be a friend anymore.

It's like holding up a marriage to myself.

Like, seriously, go away.

You don't like people who are like you.

And you always say, like, I would hate me.

Like, she's so obnoxious.

She has to stop talking.

I need you to stop like recalling things I've said.

It's annoying.

You're putting the yin to your yang.

Like, that's why you seek out people like me.

Demure individuals.

Demure individuals.

And then so many of your friends, like, you're always like, Jackson, would love her.

You guys are so silly.

Yeah.

No, it's so true.

Okay, well, to answer your question, I do think I'm a forgiving person, but it's more so, has like my brain either like forgets stuff and it's like, oh, whatever, or my brain like can't let it go.

I don't know what, how to differentiate between something I can forgive and something I can't, but it's really, if I can't forget it, I won't forgive it.

But if I forget it, it's, you know, it's not my business.

Yeah.

No, really a big part of forgiveness is forgetness.

And when you're as forgetful as I am, it's kind of amazing.

Yeah, but it's like you have to get that apology before you can forget.

I don't, and I don't think that you do forget.

See, like it's similar to how like I seriously can't forgive Sam Hunt.

Yeah.

But I have forgotten other celebrities who have DUIs and I just, I forgave them because I forgot them.

Yeah, because you wanted to.

Maybe.

If you wanted to, you would.

Maybe.

I actually think I'm a very forgiving person.

Like I talk a lot of like a big game, like, oh, I hate.

And then like when someone's apologizing to me and like I can sense, I feel bad.

I can sense that they mean it.

I'm like, say no more.

It's squashed.

when somebody apologizes to me and like they mean it like i seriously like i feel bad like i should apologize i'm sorry for making you degrade yourself like seriously i feel so like disgusting especially if it's a person who's like maybe older than me i don't know i'm just like seriously stop like i will forgive you if you stop speaking like i hate i actually hate being apologized to i really like in my soul like i really am like I let it go and I forgive.

That's big of you.

So I do think that I'm forgiving.

Even with me, like if I forgive, like I never forget, you know?

I'm one or the other.

Like there's unless I genuinely forget, you know, which you do.

Yeah, oftentimes.

Oftentimes.

So now I feel like without further ado, to do to do, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know.

What do you think about that?

Do you think it's time?

I do.

I just like, I'm a little fucked.

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Okay, are you ready for the stories?

I will delay this as long as I can because as soon as I say it, it's real.

But Love Islands, Molly Mae, and Tommy Fury have ended their engagement after five years together.

And are you okay?

I am okay.

I'm okay.

I have questions, of course, but yesterday out of nowhere, Molly posted this.

Nobody.

Molly Mae.

Yeah, Molly posted this on Instagram.

Never in a million years did I think I'd ever have to write this.

After five years of being together, I never imagined our story would end, especially not this way.

I am extremely upset to announce that mine and Tommy's relationship has come to an end.

I will be forever grateful for the most important thing to me now and always, my beautiful daughter.

Without us, there would be no her.

She will always be my priority.

I want to thank you for all the love you have shown us over the last five years.

You have all been a part of our journey.

And while I, and I feel it's right to share this with you all, while I attempt to navigate the coming days and weeks, please kindly respect my privacy over this difficult time.

I'll be back when it feels right.

Molly May.

Now,

this was shocking for a multitude of reasons, but I think people were immediately sort of...

red flagging a lot of the things that she wrote in her seamen.

This isn't a typical like, we've parted ways, we've love and respect,

like co-parent our daughter.

She's the most important thing to us like this was very there were a couple this was very much what did you do key indicators here that like this was sudden this was not what she wanted and that tommy fucked up big time big time fuck up from tommy yeah it's giving tommy fucked up and i think in a major way so first she said i am extremely upset to announce like this is not what she wants to announce she never imagined their story would end especially not in this way Also, she has been posting Tommy as recently as last week.

She did a vlog talking, just talking about her day.

It feels like she literally found something out, grabbed the kid i'm taking the dogs dumbass no tommy's out on his ear she's staying in the house her dad was seen going to the house with flowers for her method they're so famous it's really crazy it's really crazy so something happened something unforgivable something so big that it's not even like let me think about this let's take time apart let's see if we can work through this it was like one day we're together and the next day we're not i do also think like she I feel like there's a lot that she would have forgiven because they do have a child together.

They're very much in love.

I feel like if he like, if it was was like a one-off, like a cheating.

Like a one-night.

It's not that.

He has a second family.

They would have worked through it.

It's giving Tristan getting that girl pregnant like something so that you can't come back.

That you cannot come back from.

There's not even a chance because

if there was a slight chance that she could forgive him, she wouldn't have announced that they've broken up.

But like it was one day we're together, the next day we're not.

Like there, it could only be something so big and so unforgivable.

I think there's a girl out there either with a Tommy baby in her belly or like the baby has given birth and he's been like keeping it a secret.

Like that's what it sounds like.

so daily mail of course like this is their bread and butter they love tommy and molly like uk like every time molly farts like seriously like if molly farted like it was a story in the daily mail and well i hope she's okay if she's farting like seriously i saw yesterday they had like written up the breakup and then it was like if you have any tips email if you know why tommy and molly broke up like email

kind of shady beyond like seriously fuck off however they're reporting today that he cheated on molly may multiple times with the heartbroken star expecting many more women will come forward like now that she's broken up for him because I'm sure some people are like if this is true I'm sure people saw him acting out over the years but like never said anything but now I'm sure her DMs will be like flooded if this is true with people being like

there was that video from Dubai where like that girl was being playful with him It was like in a club after he had a fight or something, like somebody took a video of the club and like you look in the corner and it's like Tommy and this girl.

Nothing like outright nefarious, no kissing or anything, but like, you know, I would not like my husband to be doing that.

Yeah.

And like nothing to break up over.

definitely like a smoky situation but he's also just like a nice guy and he it could have been written off but i will say like ever since that i've looked at him differently a little bit like

now knowing what we know that video is obviously more suspicious yeah

Now, I want to say this, and it's easy for me to say it now that it's over.

And this is a corner of culture, like that you're really into.

I don't know.

I didn't watch that season.

Like, obviously, I know who they are.

And then I watched a little bit of the Tyson Fury show that they were on.

And we learned more about their family.

Just some backstory, if you don't know who these people are, they were on season five of Love Island, UK.

It was aired in 2019.

They were both really young.

They were pretty much together the entire time.

Tommy Fury is the younger brother of Tyson Fury, who is the heavyweight boxing champion of the world, like one of the greatest boxers alive right now.

And Molly, at the time, was an influencer content creator.

They connected.

They were both like so cute.

They were like really young, really in love.

And they were together the whole time.

They've been together since they welcomed a baby girl named Bambi in January of 2023.

They got engaged.

They got engaged one year ago and today they're breaking up.

And so she is still like a full-time content creator.

She's like very influential.

She's written what you're talking about.

What do you compare her to in the States?

Like kind of like an Emma Chamberlain.

Yeah.

Also like such a different time and place, but like Lauren Conrad almost.

Like

famous from a reality show, huge lifestyle brand influencer now.

And I guess the relationship part is not as like, we don't really know Lauren's man's, but then them being together, like it was great for Tommy Fury.

He boxed against

Jake Paul.

His dad was in the Paul documentary that I, what was it called?

On unwhat's that documentary series called?

Unreal?

Unboxed?

No, no, no, like untouched.

I feel so untouched.

Yeah, I think it's called Unreal.

Untold.

Untold.

Jake Paul.

And actually, that Jake Paul documentary that I watched, Untold, was what got me to watch Love Island season five because I was like, oh, this Tommy Fury, I've been wanting to like hear about Tommy Molly.

Let me go watch.

So thank you, Jake Paul.

So he does really well as a boxer.

It's like being an influencer and a boxer.

Helped him.

They are going hand in hand.

He's very much like Rising and his brothers, Tyson Fury.

They have now a show on Netflix called At Home with the Furies.

So they're just like a reality TV influencing couple.

Very global.

Very global and very big in the UK.

And she is just like a content queen.

Like everything she posts is just like so gargie.

Bambi's nursery like went so viral because it was like so adorable.

She loves being a mom.

She's a very like all of her vlogs are about like day in the life, Bambi this, Bambi that.

What are we doing?

Bambi's napping.

I'm doing my makeup.

She's just such a queen.

She is.

This is really sad.

And their relationship has always looked so strong, so wholesome.

He, his family is gypsy, which I learned more about from Tyson's.

show at home with the furies but what i got from it it's like they're very very traditional tyson has like eight children he's at home with the furies all the time but it's like women in the kitchen yeah but like they very much value family i actually feel like probably for them, having a baby before getting married was like, you know, out of the norm for them.

But I always thought that like the way that Tommy spoke, it was like Molly was, he doesn't even have, he doesn't even see other women is the way that I always saw him until that Dubai video.

But because I thought so highly of him, I let it go.

Yeah.

But I want to say like what I saw in that, in that

reality show at Home with the Furies, like didn't impress me.

Like I, Molly was a queen.

Molly was a queen.

And I was just like, okay, I wasn't really taken by him.

I don't have a particular horse in this race, and I just think, honestly, this might be the best thing to ever happen.

It's giving Tom Scandival.

Like, if you thought she couldn't get any more famous, like, I think she's about to become even bigger.

She's about to become like the hero, too.

Like, Ariana was on the two show, but then she was wrong, you know?

So, yeah, you're everybody's going to love you.

I could see her hosting Love Island.

Like, I'm telling you, this is going to be a good thing.

And, like, I actually need her to date Harry Styles.

Like, she's going to be at that level.

I'm telling you.

This is, it's tough right now, Molly.

And I'm sending you my deepest condolences in three years from now.

Oh, my God.

Yes, probably.

You know, every like, especially if he was a nefarious actor, then like he had to go.

But it's different than Scandinaval and Saturday because they had a baby.

Of course.

And a very young child.

Of course, of course.

And I don't think Molly ever wanted this.

And I think like Molly was head over heels in love with Tommy.

Whereas like we couldn't say the same about Ariana and Tom.

Like we were like, what are you still doing together?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I think they would have admitted.

Like this was like a true, like people really feel like love is dead.

And honestly, like, I don't have anything to say to you to make you feel better.

Like it is, it is not good for love.

Yeah.

When Ariana, when Tom cheated on ariana like nobody was questioning like if love exists right right but tommy's just kind of been known as this like stand-up guy dad as stand-up as a casa more like wouldn't turn bad an eye nothing nothing

so he done fucked up what did tommy do

what what did tommy do

What did Tommy do?

So Tommy is

the limited information that we have, the Dubai video, the context in her statement and Daily Mail with whatever they have.

Like, I think he cheated in a major way, not a one-night thing.

I fucked, I was drunk, and I messed up.

Because I think she would have forgiven that.

Like, pathological cheater,

perhaps, but like, has he been this the whole time?

No, I feel like

I feel like, no, he hasn't been a pathological cheater the whole time because it would have come up.

But then, how do you just like wake up one day and become like a psychotic cheater?

Well, I don't think you wake up one day and become a psychotic cheater, but you wake up one day and you're a lot more famous than you once were.

And I think when he came into the show, correct me if I'm wrong, very much in the shadow of his brother's success, right?

And yeah, he had wanted to be a boxer too, but it's like, it's giving Jordan Rogers, right?

It's like, good luck, good luck.

Yeah.

But with the advent of, you know, social media and then their success on the show and he was able to do big fights like that Tommy Fury versus Jake Paul.

I watched it.

It was huge.

Like, yeah.

So you wake up one day and you find yourself with a lot more power, a lot more money, a lot more influence.

And like that for a man, like that makes you horny.

So I don't think you wait, you're born a cheater, but I think your circumstances can make you one.

But I just feel like all of that happened.

Because of his relationship.

No, no, no.

After love, like that wave was over where like now they were in a normal groove.

They have a child.

They have a home.

Like the burst of fame.

He's been at this level for so long.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, maybe he's like in love with someone else and he like, maybe he ended it and it's like, I love someone else.

Like I'm moving on.

Maybe.

Maybe it wasn't like a pathological like goes out every night and cheats cheats, but like fell, I don't know.

I do believe we'll find out.

I think so too, especially like whatever he does next will be telling.

Yep.

We've got all eyes on Tommy Fury.

Yeah.

And you know the Daily Mail does and like all those tabloids there, like they're putting all their energy here.

Just give Molly peace, please.

I mean, give it everyone peace.

But the people really do want to know.

I do feel it.

But I'm not saying like, I think in time we will know.

I'm not in any rush to know.

Like I just am in a rush to know that Molly is going to be okay.

You know who I feel like this is actually really good for?

No.

Like Kate Middleton and Megan Markle.

Like the British press, the tabloids that like ruin their lives and like give them anxiety and like seriously drive them to crazy situations.

I feel like they're going to get a week.

Like Megan Markle should go on vacation.

Kate should just like do like walk around town in the farmer's market.

Nobody cares right now when it comes to the British tabloids about anything other than Molly Mae and Tommy Fury.

And they're going to be like interviewing Tommy's classmates from the third grade.

Like it's great for them.

Like seriously.

take a break.

You deserve it.

The Royals.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just hope like Molly's okay.

She has a baby at home like to be surrounded by photographers.

Like can I tell you something?

Like Molly's probably not okay.

And you need to know, I know.

You need to help her.

I know.

We all need to lift her up in prayer or something.

I'm here for her.

We do need to lift her up in prayer.

Let's just have a moment of silence, you know, for

a moment of prayer.

Grant Molly the strength that she needs.

The courage to understand the things she cannot change.

To are you looking for your phone?

It's right here.

Who doesn't put the phone on do not disturb?

Someone with a child, but I will put it on Do Not Disturb right now.

No, like, sorry, you asked a bitchy question.

You got a bitchy answer.

Okay, like, I'm not being bitchy.

Like, we literally have one hour of work where we can't have our phones on.

Like, we're on our phones every other minute of the day.

I'm going to need that phone.

I had it for a reason.

Wait, I'm not on my phone, but like, if someone calls me,

I don't even know because it wasn't an important person.

Oh, it was a person.

First name, potential, last name, spam.

Okay.

Right.

That's why I didn't even look at it.

And I put my phone on Do Not Disturb when she lit.

Oh, that's the last time I gave you my phone when you asked for it.

You can start using your phone.

That's the last time I give you my iPad.

I'm using your phone because your iPad is.

You can start using a fucking animal clock to tie your ass.

Maybe if you just fucking plugged in your iPad when we were done with every show.

I literally said, I'm fine to use my iPad.

It'll be ready.

And you were like, no, no, no, use mine.

I really

do.

I'm literally so generous.

I really want you to use mine.

It would make me so happy.

That's what I said, you guys.

Yeah.

Have I ever said that?

I'm happy to go get my iPad.

You know what?

You see me as the radiant light of joy that I am, and you're trying to extinguish my flame.

You can't.

You just like weren't expecting me to talk back to you when you mouthed off at me.

Yeah, I wasn't because you were in the wrong with your phone fucking.

Because Because I'm demure and mindful.

But guess what?

I can be a brat too.

Have you seen my straw?

You actually can't be a brat.

Move on.

We can't have two brats.

And look, look, look what we did.

We turned this moment of peace and prayer for Molly into two girls fighting.

The problem was that it got too quiet.

And you can't get it.

And that's why we hurt your phone.

Yeah.

That's why we can't have a moment of peace and prayer.

So true.

Anyways, Molly, like, I know you have.

Listen, I forgive you.

I forgive you.

I'm forgetting what happened.

Oh, that's good.

Yeah.

I know Molly has no idea what this podcast is.

Like, no, literally, like, we're a blind spot for her.

I know that in my bones.

Trust me, I've like tried.

Yeah, we're here for you.

We're here for you, and you're gonna be okay.

And maybe we'll just send you off with a song, okay?

Don't worry.

Oh, that's a terrible song.

A bad,

that's not a good song for today.

Every little thing is gonna be all right.

She needs something deeper.

Okay, like about pain.

When trying rain is glowing in your face,

And the whole world is on your case.

And a British queen as well.

I can offer you a warm embrace

to make you feel my love.

That's all I'm saying.

It's actually not a British queen because the song was written by Bob Dylan, but yeah.

I don't like that.

It's not an Adelaide original.

She kind of like made it her own.

Very similar to like

Whitney Houston or Jonas Brothers year 3000.

Who wrote like somebody who was someone else's song first?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a cover, the year 3000.

People don't know that.

I don't know that.

Yeah, fun fact about the music industry that I know is that that fact, yeah.

Damn.

Okay.

Are you ready for our next story?

Another, some more Splitsville news?

Because like while we're here in Splitsville.

Wait, we might as well look around.

Look around.

Here's who else is splitting up.

Sarah Foster and Tommy Haas have split.

What?

Also, I also just learned they're not married.

They have been longtime partners.

Okay, that I didn't know, but like doesn't shock me.

Oh my God, wait, I'm finding this out live right now.

It's really upsetting.

Yesterday, they

split up.

They are, quote, entirely focused on co-parenting their two daughters, Valentina and Josephine.

A source tells people exclusively.

And that's all we know from the two of them.

Now, this article has literally rounded up everything she's ever said about her marriage.

And it's all like seriously so funny and like making me upset even further that they're splitting up.

So apparently in Valentine's Day of 2021, she posted pictures of like screenshots of him liking like bikini photos and said,

happy Valentine's Day to the guy that hasn't figured out yet that likes our public.

That's so funny.

Yes.

And then in his own Valentine's Day tribute, he revealed that she had liked a shirtless photo of Tyler Cameron.

L-O-L.

And then he said, happy Valentine's Day, Sarah Foster.

I promise I will go back to the gym.

Oh, well.

So during a podcast in 2023, she described her and Tommy as basically married.

She said, we've been together since I've been 25 years old.

We have two kids.

Our lives are completely intertwined and together.

However, she added that her notion of marriage was shaped during her childhood where her dad was favored foster.

And she said, looking back, I guess I didn't grow up respecting marriage.

I grew up thinking it doesn't mean anything.

You just walk away, you cheat, you go to this person that you go to that person forever.

We just didn't grow up.

Those are fighting words.

Yeah, we just didn't grow up with the foundation of marriage being a union of bliss and holy matrimony and forever.

So that's why they never got married.

And now I guess that makes separating a little bit easier, but still like very difficult.

Also, this, this isn't even a statement that they've put out, but it just goes to show you how like Molly and Tommy is not a situation of like, we've grown apart, we don't love each other,

and we're focused entirely on our children.

Like this, it gives like they've been together 14 years, like they're growing separately.

Their children are grown.

Like we love each other, but not like that.

Now that the initial shock has sort of like wore off,

I kind of love this.

I mean, not obviously like the breaking up of a family.

It's terrible.

It's terrible.

But like the girls are a little bit older.

They're not like, you know, seven.

I think they're like in their teens.

They're like 12 and 14, I think.

That's actually a tough age.

I take it back.

13 and 8.

However, I like 13 and 8.

If the Foster sisters have a thousand fans, I'm one of them.

If they have one fan, it's me.

If they have zero fans, like I have passed away and seriously rip.

And that must be really hard for you because I am a light, like you said.

It's very dark.

I love them.

Like, I love them.

And we haven't had, and a lot of people forget, like, Sarah Foster.

When we were growing up, like, she was that bitch.

Like, she played Naomi's sister, Jen, on 90210.

She was like this gal about town.

She was this very it-girl socialite.

And now she's settled into like businesswoman and motherhood.

But I kind of love, like, I could see her hitting the scene like seriously with Leonard DiCaprio.

And you know what?

We deserve that.

And so does she.

I agree.

Like, the future is bright for her.

And it's bright for us in turn as fans of Sarah because she's going to do amazing things.

However, in this moment, like I am sad for her and her family.

And also to think about like the hard times that came before this that led to this decision, you know?

No, it's tough.

And I'm not undermining that at all.

And I know she got through this with the love of her sister and the support of her fans worldwide,

including us, of course.

Having said that, like once she comes out of it, like, I think we're going to see a Sarah Foster we haven't seen in years.

And I'm, and I'm kind of looking forward to it.

And I do appreciate because you're a ray of light, like, you're always looking on the bright side, even for Molly Mae.

Like, you're saying it's going to be Harry Styles.

And, like, it's always great to, yes, that is in our back pocket of like, things will be exciting for these people once they get through what they're going through.

We should put her on the list.

They are going through something.

Yeah, we should put her on the list because you know who I kind of like ship?

Who?

Sarah Manginello.

Like an age-appropriate, like, and he kind of looks like her ex-man.

You know who I think?

Can I see what he looks like?

He's a professional tennis player, Sarah Foster's ex-husband, right?

Yes.

Oh my God.

And she posted something so funny.

I didn't really like know him.

A few months ago, did she, did you see what she posted about the tennis wags a few months ago?

No.

Because she was talking about how, like, tennis wags are having such a moment, like, you know, Paige and Orgs and like, and how fabulous they are.

And she posted a picture of herself at the U.S.

Open, like, postpartum, like nipple blinking.

She's like, this is how we used to go.

Like, it was like her in a denim mini skirt and a tank top.

Yeah.

No, I'm really sad about this, but I'm excited for what the future holds.

Like, like i can't lie okay and your is your excitement outweighing the sadness because for me at the moment like my sadness is outweighing the excitement no my excitement's outweighing my sadness whereas like with molly like i'm sad for her you know who i feel like molly might date who only because like i feel like he's gonna want to date her who because he loves like a

elite british woman

prince harry joe jonas

Okay, because there aren't like a lot of things Joe Jonas, I think, could do right now to win favor back.

I think like, and correct me if I'm wrong, but are we all having like Jonas, Joe Jonas fatigue?

Like, after we, I, we all know.

So it's been a lot.

It's been a lot.

It's been a lot between like the band breaking up and then like this with the kids and the fan.

Like I'm sort of like having, I need a pause.

So I don't know what he really could do to win back favor.

He's going to spend a lot of time over there now because the kids are going to go to school there and like that's their primary residence, I think.

So I think he's going to like meet Molly Mae and fall in love with her.

So that like is one of very few things he could do to like seriously win favor back with, I think, the public.

I think for a long time, like Joe Jonas has leaned on his relationships, like for his his public image.

And people didn't notice.

We talked about it actually the last time we spoke about him, how he's like a serial dater, actually.

And if he were a woman, like what would people say about him?

That's true.

And he has often used, he's always kind of dated, like not to be rude, like above his pay grade a little bit.

He's always used the women that he dates to sort of lift him up, whether it's like with his image or his like likability.

And that's a really good point.

I never put that together.

Yeah.

I don't know if he does it on purpose, but that's the effect that it has.

Yeah.

No, I don't think he does it on purpose.

I think he like loves beautiful women, which I love that about him.

Yeah, I guess like, can you blame him?

No, and it's like, when people say that about Taylor, like, is she a serial dater or is she just someone who's like so excited to be beautiful and famous and like the access that, like, if I was Taylor Swift, I would have had three times the amount of boyfriends that she did.

I just want to go on record saying that.

Yes, but it's a little, they diverge in the sense that like so often Taylor's bigger.

Her relationship until Travis has never catapulted her to a, to a different level of fame.

No, she's never used her relationships as like fodder for them.

She never really could.

I guess like Jake Gyllenhaum, but like they were barely authentic.

Tara Styles.

Those never got off the ground enough for her to like use it to her advantage.

You know what I mean?

Because she was still like figuring out her place.

No, and now she's at a place where she's in a relationship that she could use to her advantage, but like she doesn't even want to because one, it's such a good relationship.

And two, like,

she couldn't possibly be more famous.

It is used to her advantage that she doesn't have to try.

Yeah.

All she does is try, try, try.

Right.

And like.

That's the same girl who wrote that lyric, right?

Yeah.

I've never been a natural.

All I do is try, try, try.

You couldn't pay me to be that honest.

Like, seriously, that is so real.

Yeah.

I've never been a natural.

All I do is try, try, try.

Seriously, you couldn't pay me to be that vulnerable with people.

Agreed.

So, yeah.

So, that's what's going on.

I'm shocked.

I didn't know.

Sarah and Tommy.

Yes.

Very sad.

Are you ready for our next story?

A little more dating news because Kim Kardashian went on a Jimmy and was talking about.

I wanted to say Ms.

Fallon because she's been doing a lot with Jimmy Fallon.

They have this like beats by Dre thing.

Yes.

Beats by Jimmy.

Yes.

Jim versus Kim.

Yeah, I don't know.

On Beats Buy.

Yeah.

I don't know how, like, Kim, Beats by Dre, and Jimmy Fallon, like are all working together.

I don't know how.

I can't explain to you the partnership.

I think they like both have headphones.

Jimmy Fallon has headphones.

It like doesn't make sense.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I want to say, like, say what you want.

I have Beats by Kim.

They're the best shit I've ever had.

I've like had them for years.

I got them free in a PR, whatever.

And I, it's, Ben's using them right now.

Like, we love them.

Just like side fact.

They're better than AirPods.

Your team, Kim over Jim, in the battle of their headphones.

Beats by Kim are better than AirPods.

You heard it here first and they're cheaper.

Well, Kim Kardashian is single and she was telling Jimmy Fallon that.

So once she confirmed her singledom, which I didn't think anyone thought she was seeing someone, but now we know she's not like secretly seeing someone.

Well, I guess she had recently broken up with Odell Beck.

Sure.

Yeah, she had relationship was like literally made up in the PR.

I wouldn't be surprised if these two never even dated.

Or yeah, I don't think they dated.

At all.

So she hilariously told Jimmy Fallon how her kids make lists in an attempt to play matchmaker.

Oh, us.

Us.

Us.

She said, my kids try to set me up.

They're so ready, but so particular for who she should date.

So she said, Saint wants me to be with like any basketball player or soccer player.

And I'm like, if you only knew.

And then she said, some of my kids want me to be with streamers.

They have lists and they try to sneakily set me up.

Kim and Mr.

Beast.

Mrs.

Beast.

That is so funny.

I guess it's like you really have to think about what their interests are.

Yeah.

We know Saint is obsessed with soccer.

Yeah.

And I could see Kim with like a big tiny tiny soccer player, although I think like the big ones are all married.

Like the top five are taken.

I don't think she's going with no,

no.

The six-man award?

No.

Like it's a steep drop from five to six.

A thousand percent.

I don't know.

A basketball player at this point,

I feel like they're all like young because that's the game.

And Kim, I don't think she, one, I don't think she wants an athlete.

I don't think she wants that life.

I don't think she wants someone like super young and immature.

Like she had said on maybe Letterman or something that she like wants to be with like a surgeon, attorney, a doctor businessman bow yeah like a real person love that and then if she was like maybe she would be dating someone and we don't know so like maybe we need to get her kids into shark tanks so that they want to set her up with like a rod like one of those um guest sharks not a rod but like a guest yeah yeah no because all the real sharks are taken yeah and they're i think they're a little bit older like they're no but like if mark cubin were single ship yeah

And you know what Barbara Corkin says famously about Mark Cuban is he loves his wife.

Great.

No, but I'm saying like a famous businessman.

Like they need to get more into

business.

Kim can set herself up.

She has like an investment capital firm, whatever it's called.

Oh, with a with a business person.

It sounds like she doesn't want to be with someone right now.

I just don't see that for her.

I feel like she's like such a lover and like such a she said it herself.

It's not even a feeling.

Like she loves being a girlfriend.

She loves being in relationships.

She always has been.

But maybe you get to a point like where you get the fuck away from me.

I've been really time.

In relationships like since you're 18 and now you have these kids like you're in a different place.

Like maybe you don't need that.

Like maybe she just like every now and then like needs to get dicked down and that's enough yeah i feel like she'll come back around where it's like oh my life is so amazing like i wish i had someone to share it with share it with at the end of the day like look over and be like today was a good day yeah in that big old bed of hers today was a fairy tale yeah i think kim probably listens to that like after a really good day yeah one thing about kim like she's a fan of taylor shows music i mean i don't know how you in now like you can dodge it like you really can't like even people who like hate taylor they're like popping their heads to like the couple songs that are always on the radio cruel summer i don't know how how, it must be like really annoying for your nemesis to be like so big.

Although I don't know if Kim looks at Taylor like her nemesis.

I know Taylor.

Kim doesn't look at Taylor the way that Taylor looks at Kim.

Like Kim's like, all is good.

What's the beef?

Famously over it.

Over it, forget.

And Taylor's like, no, I'll, I'll kill you.

Taylor's, Taylor's literally like me.

She's like, I can't forgive or forget.

I'm still there.

Just collecting round myself.

Although I don't think that's about Kim.

I mean, thank you, Amy.

No, but it shows us that she will stay there.

Wherever she is, she shall stay.

Yeah.

She's a person who stays there.

Yeah.

She's a person in which that stays.

Yeah.

That sounds like a book Margot would read.

The Summer I Witch Instagram.

Things in Which We Never Left.

The Things in Which I Stayed.

I love that.

Really love that.

No, no, no.

It would be called The Place in Which I Stayed.

Perfect.

Yeah.

Claudia.

I promise you.

The Summer in Which I Stayed.

100%.

Okay.

Well, I appreciate the Kardashian, the West children doing the work are doing the work that we're doing here, making lists.

Making a list into influencers.

Making a list, checking it twice.

Yeah.

I feel like they want her to be with like Casey Neistat,

who's also like happily married with children, but yeah.

Yeah.

Someone of that alk.

They probably want him to be seriously like with Josh Richards.

And it must be fun for them.

Like their mom is so famous.

They have so much access.

Like they are their most famous favorite person like could be their daddy, their stepdaddy.

Right.

Like, oh, please, like, if I had a single dad, like, I would be like, oh, my my god please like date joan rivers like that's seriously what i would do you know yeah

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So doctor and drug dealers are arrested in connection to Matthew Perry's death.

According to TMZ, multiple arrests have been made following an investigation into Matthew Perry's death now.

I know.

Like, I have such a, like, a pit in my stomach about Matthew Perry's death because

I think a lot of people, myself included, actually, like, made assumptions about who he passed away because I had just read his book and he was really open about his lifelong struggle with sobriety.

And I think we kind of all took away from,

at least I did with the book.

It was like, it wasn't the end.

It's not like somebody writing a book being like, I have figured out sobriety and remission and recovery.

And like, this is my story.

He very much like goes through periods where he could go years and then years on, years off.

And

him, there was so much like mystery around the circumstances.

We never got like a full confirmed story on what happened.

So by now, like we can piece together what happened.

He had ketamine in his system when he drowned, but the ketamine

therapy too.

He was doing ketamine therapy, but it was clear from his autopsy that the ketamine in his system wasn't from, wasn't given in a medical environment because his last ketamine infusion was like a week before his death.

The ketamine that he had done caused him to lose consciousness and drown in his hot tub.

Law enforcement sources told TMZ that at least one doctor and several dealers who helped arrange and deliver ketamine to Matthew Perry have been taken into custody.

The LAPD, DEA, and U.S.

Postal Service each executed search warrants that resulted in the seizure of computers, phones, and other electronic equipment to determine who supplied Perry with the illegally obtained ketamine that caused him to lose consciousness and drown in his hot tub last October.

The insiders told TMZ that the warrant revealed text messages discussing the star and the ketamine he wanted, as well as what they were doing to get it for him.

The message also allegedly had information on what Perry was willing to pay for it.

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And that's why the Postal Service is involved in this.

Got it.

Well,

that was like also a thing in his book that he touched on very briefly and not in a major way, but if you're reading it, you're like, oh my God, that, you know, certain times in his life, especially in the beginning of his addiction when he just needed like a, like a bottle to get through the next couple of months,

there are these doctors.

They're just like prescription fillers.

You,

they're technically like, it's illegal, but they're, they have a prescription pad and it's just like this abuse of their position and abuse of their power.

And they really get so many people addicted.

And it reminded me, of course, of dopesick.

Yeah.

And so if that's a one positive that comes out of this situation, it's like, and I'm sure in Hollywood, it's so much worse.

It's disgraceful.

Yeah.

It is disgraceful.

Yeah.

Like just, I forgot what he called them, but he said when he was living in New York, he would go to like different therapists and different like physicians talking about migraines, talking about depression.

And, and it was so easy.

And, but eventually your addiction gets to a point where it's so bad and you need so many pills that like getting a prescription from a therapist or a psychotherapist or they'll get you, it'll last you three days.

It's not worth the trouble.

Yeah.

So then you have to go like the much more illegal route, which is like actual drug dealers.

Yes.

But these doctors are drug dealers.

Yeah.

They're just prescription fillers.

Like Like they literally, you have, you make an appointment.

No, they are just writing, you're supposed to like have a patient treat them, try things, like not just like, oh, you know, one new, one new, one appointment with a new client.

Yeah.

Patient.

Patient.

And they walk out with two prescriptions.

Like that's really not how it works.

Right.

No.

It's not how it's supposed to work.

No.

And it's really hurting people.

And we saw, yeah, dope sick is a great example of that.

Yeah.

Dope sick was different because like, Yeah, there were these like pill farms.

And actually in Demon Copperhead, they talked about that a lot too, like doctors who were just like seriously bringing people in and getting paid per prescription.

But they were working with the pharmaceutical companies.

And so for a while, it wasn't illegal.

It was just like morally corrupt.

Yeah.

There are doctors out who are just like actual drug dealers.

Yeah.

But they, you know, are doctors.

And so somehow it's okay.

Yeah.

But they do take like oaths, you know, do no harm.

They go to medical school for eight years.

They are violating like terms of their

employee.

Like, you know, they can be disbarred and all of that.

And they should.

And they should.

Yeah.

So that's a bit of an update and just a very sad story.

Terrible.

Ugh.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I am ready for our fifth and final story.

Some influencer news, some Hamptons news, and it's not about us.

That's disgusting.

It is disgusting.

Of course it's not.

Of course it's not.

But Alex Cooper is planning a blowout multi-day 30th birthday in the Hamptons about an influencer in the Hamptons who's turning 30 and it's not about you.

Oh, well, of course it's not about me because I turned 22 in the Hamptons.

I don't know who you're turning at.

And Page 6 reports that she's looking for a sponsor to foot the bill.

So Alex Cooper, who's a podcaster, sent out a proposal looking for brands to sponsor an over-the-top multi-day 30th birthday blowout in the Hamptons to be hosted by her talent network, Unwell.

Page 6 was told the proposal deck just went out and the events scheduled included a pickleball tournament, an influencer in Hamptons who's turned 30, who's playing pickleball,

a drone show, and a wine tasting, all to go down in just two weeks.

So

the deck for her event for her birthday in the Hamptons has leaked to Page six.

They're making like such a meal of it.

By the way, what did it remind you of?

Fashion and Bashin.

Thank you.

Oh man, we have the same brain.

Everything comes back to fashion and fashion.

For those who don't remember, we literally just talked about that in Lincoln when that world-renowned fashion and fashion.

Like you need to know the story of fashion and fashion.

If you want to move, like in order to have like influencer media literacy on so many different levels, like one, you need to know the story of fashion and fashion.

We talked about her earlier in the podcast.

I mean, earlier, like in the summer, so I won't like repeat it, but she was that girl who was literally last week.

Why?

Someone did something

just like fashion.

Oh, Justin, of course.

Justin Battle and his engagement video.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, Justin.

Yeah, I'm like, Justin Sylvester.

I was like, who are you going to intimidate?

Okay.

So she had this whirlwind engagement.

She had like 100,000 followers.

It blew up literally.

Everyone was talking about it.

She was like this girl who worked at Goop and her fiancé took her on this like international adventure to get engaged.

It was like a scavenger hunt, whatever.

And like people were loving it and then hating it.

Of course, everybody turned on her when they found out there was a deck that had went around of her fiancé was like, listen, I'm planning this big thing.

It's going to have a lot of eyes on it.

And if anybody wants to sponsor it, it was kind of a savvy business move when you think about how many people were talking about it.

I mean, we're still talking about it eight years later.

Okay.

And like, people were like, it's so disingenuous.

Once the deck went out, people like really turned on her and her husband.

Yeah, because they thought that she had a hand in doing the deck, which would mean that she knew about all this.

And everything that we were watching was like her acting and faking it.

Where now I think we can say, like, no, she didn't know.

Her husband took this on.

He knew that she's an influencer.

She has like good brand relationships.

And he he reached out to those brands and like, it was a good idea.

But because the deck leaked, it made them look really bad.

And that's what they're trying to do with this birthday party.

So I think, because I had seen like people talking about it on TikTok being like, oh my God, she's going to sell tickets and then to take money from her fans and then also take money from brands.

And it's like, that's literally how events work.

Like you buy tickets to Madison Square Garden.

There's a chase sign everywhere.

Like you, brands come in, pay for the activation.

So that's like zero cost to the person putting it on.

Brands get, you know, whatever brands get signage, whatever.

And then the person throwing the event gets to keep the revenue from the ticket sales.

It's literally like not a big deal at all.

And I feel like if this were me, like I would be embarrassed.

Like, and it's like, there's nothing to be embarrassed about.

Like, this is just how the.

business of events work.

And influencing, this is how anything works.

And it's so, it's not really news, but I think when you, it's laid out this way, it like looks.

It looks like they're making it out to look nefarious, right?

Like they're different slides of the deck have been leaked and it's like, oh, here's who we think can show up.

And these aren't people, these aren't confirmed attendants, but like we've made decks where it's like people within our network who we think would show up.

We haven't told them about it, but their name's in the deck yet.

Usually when we have a party, you invite them.

They're our friends and they come.

No, when people text me all the time, like, oh my god, I'm at work and you're in this deck.

And it's like, I've never heard of it, but it's just like, it's just like how the things work.

It's like really not a big deal.

Totally.

And I feel like not only is this article like meant to embarrass her, but then the people's, like when I'm seeing people talk about it on social media, like it, it's like really,

I'm seeing like a lack of understanding of how things work.

It's like, well, so greedy, like taking money from fans and from brands.

And it's like, girl, events like this, you're lucky if you don't.

Well, first of all, it's a business.

We're here to make money.

But events like this, when you put them on, like community building events, like you're lucky if you don't lose money.

Like Camtos, like seriously, when we make $3.

Yeah.

But it cost so much money between tickets and brands who came on board.

Like we were able to break even and do it again so we didn't lose money.

And like brands who came on board, like we got some free money.

Anything helps, right?

Yeah.

No, and that wasn't even like.

an actual brand sponsor.

Right.

So I just feel like when people are talking about it, like they really don't understand how things work and how much these things cost, right?

Like an event anywhere I've been at in the Hamptons in the summer, like it's gonna be pricey.

And I feel like people are like running with this and really not understanding how this works.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, it's pretty like textbook.

It's pretty textbook.

It's unfortunate that it got leaked because it looks a certain way.

Like I think we all know how this looks, but if you have like a bit of understanding of how like influencer culture works, but also like how like events work, it's like not a big deal.

Every event that's ever been thrown has a deck.

Yeah, like more so begs the question, like, why is it leaked and why is it news?

And like, who's I want to know who leaked it?

That's like someone really like

to take pictures of the deck.

It's not the actual slide, someone took like a picture of it up on the board.

You see, it's not like a straight-up PDF.

It looks like,

oh my God, I feel like if you look really closely, you can figure out who did it.

I think it would literally be in the reflection of the TV.

I feel like, yeah, somebody's on Zoom where this is being presented and they're taking a picture of it with their phone.

That's how it looks.

Or I thought they were in a conference room and it's up on the TV.

TV.

TV.

TV.

Oh my God.

Like, Brat.

Seriously, Nakwool.

Like, for real.

If this was me, I'd be so mad because it's making you look,

it's making it look like something it's not.

Yeah.

It's not.

Yeah.

So.

I don't see our names on that list of potential Hampton's people to invite.

No, and like we're literally sat here.

Look at us.

Like we're in.

Like, that's the most offensive part of his story to me.

Like, okay.

Hampton's elites.

Where are we?

Hampton's influencers turning 30 who like pickleball.

No dude.

I'm offended.

Oh my God.

My brace is like really bothering me.

Not to like keeping the girl talking about.

Your brace face, okay?

No, I'm literally Romey and Michelle like with my brace.

Yeah.

You're going to start sticking magnets to my bracelet.

I'm going to start bullying you.

I'm going to give you a swirly in the toilet.

And it's like a girly swirly.

By the way.

I'm going to hold her upside down.

You know, we haven't ever shared and we never will like what swirly means, like the true origins, but people assume that one of us got gave a swirly swirly to a sister got or yeah received or gave a you know swirly sticking someone's face in the toilet while we're flushing but like keep talking keep acting like a fucking nerd and you're going in can i say something like swirlies can't be real like are they things that only existed in movies i think that they're real but it does like i and i could see how it could happen because the physics of it like i could not physically give you a swirly because we are the same size it's waterboarding first of all no i couldn't lift you up by your legs and dunk you in the toilet we're the same size so it has to be, of course, it's boys.

It's hanging up too.

It's like three on one.

So, and

they're very different size.

So I feel like it would be like a senior in high school to a fresh.

I know.

I feel like swirlies are things that only existed in movies.

Please sound off in the comments: have you ever given or received a swirly?

And if you've ever given one, like make your account anonymous because seriously, like that's something that could destroy you.

Like, are you okay?

No, that's like so crazy.

What if you found out that like someone that you love like gave a swirly in high school?

Well, I like to believe people are capable of great change.

I mean, I think I'm the embodiment of change.

Like, look at me now versus me two years ago.

Like, look at you now versus you yesterday.

You have a brace.

It's so true.

I really do.

I used to be maybe one of these people who didn't believe that people could, like, people really don't change.

I am a walking testament.

You are, like, yeah, you are.

I am change.

You, if anyone believes that people don't change, like, look at Claudia.

Yeah.

Also, like, look at me.

I'm constantly changing.

Yours was less drastic.

Like, I feel like yours was really organic over time.

And mine, we all woke up one day and it was like, I was working out and like having salads and it was really shocking.

Yeah.

But yeah, yeah i believe people are capable of great change so if somebody i knew like let's say i seriously found out that ben gave someone a swirly although we all know ben would be receiving ben would be receiving the swirl not giving the swirly for sure but if you found that out about ben like the ben that you know today is not that person like it's not like it would change everything you thought it would change nothing because you know him to be a good person that's what i'm saying about like tana and brooke like tana did you think your friend was like a good gal like if or did you think she was like a raging kkk racist because if you thought that and continued to not only be her friend but give her a platform that speaks a lot about you too right but you obviously knew she was like a good person and you liked her and you invited her into your home and into your business so now to what safe face i actually was really shocked to see that like people responded negatively to that yeah like that gives me hope for the internet because yeah i think people at a time would have like really championed tanna throwing her friend under the bus and being like yeah her but now it's like we're all thinking a little bit more critically and i actually like to see that yeah that line that route of responding didn't go over well i agree it was a crazy thing to do it was wild like and she was she admitted that she was like, by the way, she sat down on the podcast and she was like, Brooke isn't here.

And that was my choice.

Like, Brooke wanted to, but I said no.

Like, she, I think she wanted, I think she really thought it would go over well and she wanted to take credit for it.

Yeah.

And then what was the plan for after?

I guess to see how the audience reacted.

And then like

keep making decisions based on what the audience wants so that she doesn't lose them.

But one, that's just like not a good thing to do in general.

There's a third girlie involved.

It's Tenna's assistant.

Paige, she comes on the podcast very infrequently.

She was the one there during the episode that Brooke wasn't on, but I don't know if there's a big demand for her.

People really like Brooke.

My question is, what about the tour?

Like, say things went according to Tana's plan and people were like, down with Brooke.

We never want to see her again.

Like, what's the plan for the tour?

I don't know.

I don't know if you can sell tickets to like a Brooke and Tana show and then it just becomes like Tana and someone else.

And like, what are

they not, like, podcasting together?

And, you know, she said, like, and she threw under the bus, are they going to get on the stage and like seriously do a fight?

Sounds like they're going to work it out on the fight.

They maybe call Jake Paul to or use his ring

by the way that's kind of a good idea to end this whole thing like they literally work it out in the ring they just beat the out of each other and didn't she marry jake paul she did actually and i think and i'm not like a fully well versed so everything i know i know from like people's recaps so i might be wrong about this but i'm pretty sure like they had this fake marriage or whatever remember they live streamed it next to like everybody was so mad because they paid ten dollars and like the whole thing wouldn't start but i do believe um

Jake Paul is like the great love of Tana's life.

Like if any of her friends were to ever date, she always says like, you can date whoever I I date, except for Jake Paul.

It's Jake, not Logan.

It's Jake, not Logan.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I just want to say, like, they should have worked it out.

Like, I think they could have ruled the world if they stayed together.

And like, is that her ex-husband?

Low-key in a classic kind of way?

Yeah.

But I think the marriage was fake.

I like went down to Tana Rabbit Hole like years ago.

I forget, I forget what she was doing, but I was like so deeply interested by her.

And I like watched a lot of her stuff.

Fascinating.

Yeah.

I watched a lot of her stuff.

I thought she was like so funny.

And that's when I like learned about the Jake thing.

And I know that that was not a real marriage, unfortunately.

But it was a real relationship.

Yeah.

Like they dated and she really.

She had a little, she had a show.

MTV.

Yeah.

That's what I watched.

And then I, and then I was like, oh, and she podcasts and she's been on all this stuff.

So then I watched a bunch of stuff.

Yeah.

And then I got caught up.

And then also, don't forget the thrupple.

Remember when she was in a thruplet?

Bella Thornton.

And that's when I thought her name was Tana Manjiao.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think a lot of people come into it not knowing how to pronounce her last name.

They're not wrong for it, but it's mojo.

And that's easier.

And like, of course it is, you know, she's had a mojo.

Yeah.

What movie is it where like someone loses their mojo?

Austin Powers.

Austin Powers and he's like, goes on a witch hunt, a scavenger hunt for his mojo.

Got his mojo back.

He just needs to find Hannah.

Don't we all?

Um, that's our show.

Thanks so much for being here.

Oh, nice long one.

Um, okay, should we wrap it up?

Yeah, because it's nice long.

I'm hungry, too.

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