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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

Happy Wednesday.

Oh my god, happy Wednesday.

The week is creeping along.

It'll be free to see.

It's scary skeletons and shivers down your spine.

But it's hump day.

We have a very exciting day today for a multitude of reasons.

Of course, the toast.

Very exciting.

Dear toasters.

Very exciting.

Which I'm having a renaissance with dear toasters.

I say, so am I.

I think I know why.

Because in this time of year, where like the celebrities don't do much, at times, excuse me,

it feels like we might be scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to talk about.

And like Deer Toaster is coming in so clutch with like the content.

That, and also I feel like everybody has been pitting me against dear toasters because I said one thing one time about how it just takes a lot of personal battery.

And now I feel like I have to prove my love for Deer Toasters.

And in doing that, Deer Toasters and I have fallen in love again.

Oh, okay.

So it's kind of inspired a renaissance, if you will.

It has, but just like to prove everyone wrong, like it's Deer Toasters and I against, and Claudia and Bruno and Romeo, against the rest of you.

Jackie, that's literally beautiful.

The rest of you who are telling me what I like when I never said that.

Well, you did say it, but you were confusing in your

life.

Delivery.

Well, we've got, like Jackie said, dear toasters.

I'm wearing horizontal stripes.

And how do you feel?

I feel brave.

Where is my purple heart?

But horizontal stripes are so summery, you know?

They are.

Like, I just, and I want to say, um, not a shirt.

This shirt just like sort of showed up at my house.

I don't know where it came from.

Um, along with this gorgeous tucker nut sweater that I wore and then, then you wore.

And I'm not entirely sure where they came from.

I want to say it was in a PR package from Caudale, which was like so nice, along with this shirt that I never would have bought from you.

Claude Lee, you should do a collab with them.

I'm waiting.

Called Claude Lee.

Their products are fabulous and so is their name.

Yeah.

And all these sort of like fabulous items showed up at my apartment and they've sort of given me a personality of my own.

Like, what am I wearing?

This nautical striped blue and white shirt.

This is something I would never wear or buy for myself.

And I'm taking on another personality.

Ahoy, maybe.

Yeah, I was also just saying to Turt, I feel like this studio, because it's cozier vibes.

And I also think because the couch is deeper, it's having us dress differently than the last studio.

Like in the last studio, because we were in front of a window and the couch was shallow, like you want to wear like a little Seamla, but I'm no longer feeling like seamless summer in this studio.

I'm feeling more loungewear.

Thank God.

Like seamless summer is such pressure.

We like finally got a million seamless.

Like we spent the whole month buying seamless.

The good news is I'll wear that stuff all the time at home.

It's true, but like people don't talk about the pressure that's put on a woman.

by wearing a dress, a seamla, if you will.

Yeah, this couch is not seamlaw friendly whatsoever because we're sitting all the way back.

So now I think we need to go back to investing in loungewear.

It's time for another merch drop.

Just Just go.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

I have to invest in more loungewear.

Ah.

I know, but I really didn't bring cozies because it's summer, but it's also rainy here, overcast, which is why it's an extra exciting day because I'm making a chili.

Thank God.

Like the fire is roaring.

The rain is raining and the chili is getting started.

And more exciting.

things.

Claudia and I

are in the middle of a baking vlog.

Yeah, that's right.

We bake.

We started something yesterday.

It's been proofing.

I actually need to text someone to take it out of the fridge.

I put it in the fridge.

Did you get the baking soda?

I did.

Okay, because you know, Jackie and I didn't have, and we were like, we could use baking powder.

And I feel like that's how all great flops begin.

You just substitute the baking powder for the baking soda and you're like, where did it all go wrong?

Right there.

I already made one mistake.

And also like the proofing time, like it went in the fridge is coming out.

We'll see how it goes.

Yeah, but you can go to patreon.com.

You made me realize, like, because we're doing it for Patreon, like we're just doing it to have fun.

Like, it doesn't have to be perfect.

You take it so seriously.

When I'm like cooking, I do take it seriously.

Like, I don't want to waste my time.

I don't want to waste my ingredients and then what people go hungry.

But this is- No, not only that.

You're feeding your family, right?

Like, this is just fun.

It's okay if it's not perfect.

So, that takes the pressure off.

Yeah, it does.

It does.

And just know, like, if I'm involved, it's going to go wrong.

So, we might as well just like lean in and have fun.

What are we making again?

Oh, yeah.

Should we spoil it or no?

No, don't spoil it.

But then, also, we'll get a little chilly in there.

It's just going to be like a cooking day, which I love a cooking day.

I love a cozy, chili, fire-waring day.

You guys know that, but like, it's summer.

Where is the sun?

Oh, Mr.

Sun, Sun, Mr.

Golden Sun, please shine down on me.

I want to be tan.

That limerick, what's that, like a jingle?

It's a song.

It's a children's song.

It's so good.

Is that still popular?

That's like a song from my day.

Mr.

Sun.

It's still in the rotation.

Sun, Mr.

Golden Sun,

hiding behind the tree.

Oh, Ogie Verse 2.

These little children are asking you to please come out so we can play with you.

Oh, Mr.

Sun.

Sun, Mr.

Golden Sun.

Please shine down on won't you shine down on won't you shine down on me

yeah they ate with that especially like the harmony like oh so good totally and that's how i'm feeling today like oh mr sun sun please shine down on me like i want to swim i want like it was fun yesterday and we had an indoor day but to have two days like that in a row like it's kind of slovenly it's slovenly i didn't even shower yesterday because i was like i didn't do anything i didn't shower but i realized i didn't need to it was like i'm saving the water, you know?

Yeah, that's so turdy.

I care a lot.

Turdy for turtles.

I'm kind of like that character in the politician, Ben Platt, when he agrees to live zero waste.

Yeah.

And so he saves his own shower water to feed the flowers.

Beautiful.

It's literally disgusting.

The flowers are probably like, he used his shower water to make coffee, by the way.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which is even more disgusting.

Use it for flowers.

That's actually good.

There's nothing more disgusting than bath water, like used bath water.

There are more disgusting things.

Like, no.

But did I tell you my fun fact that I learned on my Facebook algorithm about baths in olden times?

You didn't.

I feel like I did.

I feel like you did.

Hold on.

And I'm going to tell you again because I told you my Facebook, what I get in my feet is just like fun facts, historical facts.

I shared that graphic that I got about the UK.

But one that I learned is they were teaching like why some phrases are, why do we say those things?

Jackie, we have had this exact conversation.

I feel like not on the show.

I feel like we had it in like at dinner one night.

Okay, because then I, because then I, yeah, okay, go.

But we'll have it again.

Just

so the phrase, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

This is where it comes from.

Back in olden times, like really poor families, they would only get one bath a year.

And the first person to take the bath would be the man of the house, then the sons, then the women, the daughters, and all the way like in age order to the baby, by the time the baby took a bath, it would be like black,

a year's worth of grime on an entire family.

And so then it was like, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater because you might lose it.

No, and by the way, not everyone like being like, why did they die so young it's because you're literally bathing babies in like black duty and in hindsight it should have been the opposite order yeah okay well you just then reminded me of a fun fact i learned on tick tock about where phrases come come from and this phrase was you know the wrong end of the stick

So in olden times, I think in the turlets, they didn't have like toilets?

Yeah, in the turlets, they didn't have, you know, toilet paper things of that nature.

They had like a stick with like something at the end of it to like wipe your ass with.

And if you, you would like put it, you would use it and then you would put it back in the bucket.

But if you put it back upside down when somebody went to reach for it, they would reach for the duty side and it's the wrong end of the stick.

Damn.

So that's when you're getting like a shit deal, literally.

A raw deal.

Exactly.

I love learning about the origins of phrases.

We definitely have this conversation word for word.

Unclear if it was offline or off online.

So if it was online, we apologize for the repetitive nature.

But do you want a new one that I just learned that we definitely didn't have on the podcast?

I would love a new one.

And it's the origin of the word podcast.

Hit it.

Because it's a combination, a conflagration of two words, which is our favorite thing.

Oh, let me think like broadcast.

Of course.

And pod

comes from iPod.

So it was a broadcast that you listened to on your iPod.

Oh, my God.

And that's why it was called podcast.

And now it has obviously usurped this original term.

Like own that word?

No, because it was kind of slang.

But now that's the word.

And then I saw even the word broadcast is two words put together because broad was meant, you know, broad

to everyone.

And then I didn't keep watching the video for where cast comes from that's the more interesting part also that's another word that it's leapfrogged its original meaning of like broad now a broad cast is more ubiquitous so what you're saying it's giving conjunction junction what's your function

that's exactly what i'm saying well at the end of the day it all comes back to conjunction so and schoolhouse rock and bruno Brunus Lunis.

Bruno decided to show up for work today, even though it's raining.

He's working so hard.

That's beautiful.

Because he's just so grateful for this trip.

And he's like, How can I help?

I'm having the best time with my cousin brother, Romeo.

And like, we just want to help out.

I was saying that last night, you know, I don't know how I'm going to go back to my regular life.

Well, I know how I'm going to do it.

Like, I'll be fine, but I don't know how Romeo's going to go back.

Romeo was born and like very quickly went to the Hamptons and like lives with Bruno.

They have such a good time together.

Every night, they like the clock strikes eight o'clock.

They're on the couch, licking each other from top to bottom.

They play, they run, they jump, they laugh.

They love each other so much.

I don't know.

Romeo doesn't know a life without a brother.

You know, Bruno has four years on this earth, like like by his lonesome yeah

when we went back to the city for the vegan theater like we spent one night in that apartment like romeo seriously i had to put him on suicide watch he was like i hate it here yeah i hated here so i will go to secret gardens in my mind oh tic tac idea gotta make that it was a quiet lonely day for romeo correct so that's gonna be sad but let's not think about that we have so much more of Swirly Summer.

You know, and let's even just think about today at a glance.

We have so much going on, especially within the toast.

Blake Lively is a September cover star of Vogue.

Pargi, Pargi, she is a story.

Yes, she is.

That is like, we'll talk about the interview, what everyone's talking about, but like conceptually, that's really crazy to me.

And we'll get into it.

I don't want to spoil any of my thoughts.

Right, right, right, right.

Save them.

In terms of Olympics news, Jackie and I last night.

You know, every night they show you new sports, new things to, and now that gymnastics is over, it gives us the bandwidth to look into other things.

Current obsession, Sydney McLaughlin from New Jersey, runner to the stars.

Like literally one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever seen in my life.

Yeah, amazing

runner.

didn't even look like she was trying that hard in the semi we so excited

so excited to see what she brings to the finals she's like married to a former nfl player they're so sweet they're so both like so good looking too yeah oh are you seeing this viral moment now this is where i'm at on tick tock when it came to what's the sport where the guy's penis got caught pole jumping so the guy who won pole vaulting yeah vaulting something like that the guy who won was from sweden and he's like the world record holder he ran to his girlfriend yes and now you're like should he have hugged his mom No, no, no, no.

I was obsessed with the whole moment.

And then it went viral on TikTok and I kept like watching the videos that I guess it started serving me the content of the athlete.

And the girlfriend, she's an influencer, like a Swedish influencer.

She has 400,000 TikTok followers.

She has the coolest style.

She's so unbelievably gorgeous.

And all of her content these past, now I'm getting served all of her old videos.

Oh, come and be to the championships like before the Olympics.

Oh, like you've never seen two better looking people.

It's a rabbit hole worth going down.

I couldn't tell you their names.

I'm not sure yet, but I've followed and I'm like, I'm sad.

Oh, I love that.

Are you okay with him hugging her even though she's only the girlfriend i am there was something about the hug like she's more than a girlfriend in terms of like she's a partner and yeah yeah i don't even know if who else i don't know what other members of his family were sitting around him like you know i love to go in on like the order in which men should hug like the women in their lives but in this particular scenario i i didn't have one nefarious song no and it was like feeding us as the kids say we we We they ate.

It wouldn't have been a viral moment if he was hugging his dad.

No, no.

It would have been his sister.

It would have been viral, but not

this caliber.

Yeah, agreed.

And people are pairing it with the song, The Alchemy.

Where's the trophy?

He just comes running over to me.

That's good.

Literally.

That's good.

There are a couple of moments from the Olympics that are giving like Smut Novel.

That is one of them.

Yeah.

The others, you know, obviously the two tennis players and mixed doubles who are no longer together.

Like,

that's obviously.

A book waiting to be written.

That's tough.

Oh, do we have any?

Oh, I guess we'll talk about Blake Lively and it ends with us.

But last night was the premiere yeah we're talking about the premiere okay because like the thought i had yesterday has like exploded into a full-blown oh okay we'll talk about we'll talk about it more which is great for the movie it ends with us which just proves like my point

so

Rising tides, rising all shides.

Rising tides, rise all shides.

And then also, oh, we watched Olympics gold medal for the American in wrestling.

Okay, wrestling.

We don't talk about wrestling enough.

Not them never putting it on prime time.

Because we won a gold.

We won gold.

Jewish queen.

Like you could not, like,

I feel like people don't understand this.

I had this thought the other day.

Like the difference between, because there are a ton of Jewish Olympians from Israel.

The difference between like an American Jew and an Israeli in terms of like physical makeup and just like general stamina could not be more different.

Like Israeli Jews are like the toughest, if you know their personalities, like they're snarky.

They are so different than like American Jews because American Jews have the luxury of like being American and like living safely.

And we just couldn't be more different.

So when you think of like typical jews like larry david type that's very weak weak stomach that's very american constitution so for there to be like an american jew she is israeli so like her parents her parents are is right it doesn't really count it is so unbelievably crazy you guys have no idea like it's shocking there was another i was following some of the jewish olympians um fencing different

different different

to see this like athlete she was jacked i i just couldn't believe it like i really couldn't no it's so funny but also I was reading up on her so many interesting factoids.

That one that I shared with Claudia that's also sad because what's her name, Amit.

She has like some sad things that have happened to her in her life.

Her brother passed away a few years ago.

Actually, he was murdered in an attempted robbery.

Like the story is just a sad story.

But her brother's name, I told Claudia, was Ashre, which is just so.

Crazy, spelled the same way, O-S-H-R-Y.

I've never heard that as a first name.

And by the way, that could solve our issue from yesterday's episode about your maiden name and how you can carry it on.

Ashre is apparently a first name.

No, we literally need to cut this out so that when I drop my first baby ever, like on the gram, Ashre Safar.

When you drop him.

Wait, I'm obsessed.

Ashre Safar.

We need to cut this out because I'm literally doing that.

I love it.

Thank you, Amit.

Yeah, that was crazy.

And it was spelled the exact same way.

And it's like he was murdered.

He was murdered in a home invasion.

Okay, okay.

Very upsetting story.

Okay, never mind.

But ashree so both made it about us so proud of a me she crushed it she crushed that bitch um

and what else did we watch women's volleyball it's kind of it's time for like the i don't think they're lesser but obviously nbc and people watching a lot of diving diving synchronized swimming like now that gymnastics is over it like gives space for other

for other sports to get like prime time visibility, even though like, and I like track and field.

I like it a lot.

It gets all the time on prime prime time like it never we bring and then they are showing us a roundup throughout the day of like things that are low-key more interesting I like track and field like where is the synchronized swimming yeah the girls that moonwalked like we didn't get to see their routine I would love to understand like how they decide which sports they're gonna make popular let's say there isn't like this huge demand for track and field it's just kind of being given like the NBC stamp of approval and they just put it on for us no I think it's I think people really love it

I do I love it and I've been enjoying it that's a fine one for me I'm not gonna turn it off same but like I just I think some of the other sports deserve like a moment.

Yeah.

Well, then you have to think about like which sports deserve moments taken away.

I could name some, but like I'm not going to publicly because like these are Olympians and

they work really hard.

Like yesterday the women's soccer team beat Germany.

That was fabulous.

Huge W.

When I tell you how boring it was, because that's the thing about soccer.

Like

it's like, you're lucky if you get like two goals.

Yeah.

So boring.

Yeah.

So boring.

Oh my God.

Yeah, that's rough.

And it's such a long game.

Like at Olympics, it's, I mean, gymnastics, it's like two minute wrestling is for like a four minute round.

Yeah.

Yeah, we know about wrestling.

Thanks, Amit.

So do Bruno and Romeo.

They're reenacting what they saw.

Oh, you guys can't see.

They're being really cute.

And if you hear like some sort of erotic growling, just know that that's what it is.

And we apologize, but you're welcome.

Well, those were the Olympics recaps.

I'm excited for what today holds in store.

What today brings.

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Okay, our first story, since we're bursting at the seams, to talk about her, Blake Lively is on the cover of Vogue September issue with an accompanying interview and lots of photos and Hugh Jackman and like a confusing concept that I'm wrapping my head around, like directed by Baz Luhrman.

Yeah, and I just like want to say I hated that the cover said Blake by Baz like so big.

Like it's her cover.

Like their names were the same size.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

It's like it's her cover.

She's like having a moment.

Well, it always is going to say something like Blake Lively on Colleen Hoover.

Yeah, but like Blake by Baz.

Like, I don't know.

I just didn't like it.

Sorry.

Well, she loves Baz.

So I don't think.

Yeah, that's what she said.

He's her favorite director.

That's cool.

So I don't think she's mad about it.

Who would you have direct your vogue cover shoot?

Kenny Orto.

Kenny Ortega.

Totally.

And like, there's no runner-up.

Totally.

I'm not interested.

I'll turn it down.

Same.

Other ways.

I would go for John Chu.

Oh, that's a good one.

Yeah.

Well, she is in Vogue doing a September issue, which is major.

So she's the September issue cover star.

When you look at it at a glance, like that feels right.

No, no, it's a huge deal for her, first of all.

And I just like, when, when I saw her on this, I don't know why to me, I feel like she like exists in a vacuum, like of my interests, like Taylor Swift.

And for her to be on the cover of September Vogue is so major.

And I'm really happy for her.

And I think it's so cool to see someone, she's having a real peak in her career, not like the only peak.

I think she's had a lot of peaks.

She's having a pretty big one right now.

And it's cool to see somebody like have a peak, probably the biggest of their career, like later in life after she's had four kids.

Like, I think that's really cool.

And I feel like I love her.

And I'm really happy for her.

And it's like, you thought, you know, you can't ever outdo Serena van der Witzen, but like here she is outdoing it.

Yeah.

Also, I feel like I haven't looked at her in this light where they said the open saying, I've come to meet a movie star, but it's not a movie star who arrives it's a mother of four and like when i think of her i actually didn't until today think of her as a movie star because i also feel like some of her projects and like no shade because she's in some amazing thing she does weird selection she has like weird fake movies she has had like actually a very poor track record of choosing movies like and age of adeline is literally amazing but it was like a flop no and also her movies that are cited here are it's like sister of the traveling pants gossip girl slay but then also age of adeline and a simple favorite and like age of adeline we loved but i didn't think it like was popular It's literally the best movie ever made.

She was incredible in it, but it is largely considered a flop.

And a simple favor, like I thought it was a flop until they got a sequel.

So it was a flop, but it had a very small niche following, like a cultie almost,

which is great, but it also wasn't considered like a blockbuster.

And she is a movie star like right now, but I feel her track record like doesn't reflect that.

Like I feel like up until yesterday, she was a fake movie star.

Let's not talk about the movie with the whale where she's like literally on a rock the whole time.

It's not Jaws.

What's it called?

Sharknado.

Yeah, she's she's like on a rock okay so like when i was in portugal it was seriously four in the morning and we couldn't sleep so we like ordered mcdonald's taylor taylor ben margo and me we laid in my bed and watched that movie it was seriously the dumb we were cracking up it's the dumbest movie but literally one of the best movies i've ever seen i agree with you although i think she's really smartly positioned herself now because i feel like for so long We had like those iconic older actresses who like got every movie and it's like every awards season.

It's like the same crop of like Cape Blanche Chad, Julianne Julianne Moore.

And it was interesting to see who like the girlies, the millennial girlies, who were going to grow up and become that.

And I feel like this sort of season of her life, Blake Live is sort of setting herself up for that.

Yeah, like a Reese Witherspoon.

Exactly.

Jennifer Anniston.

And it makes so much sense.

But I also think the context and all in which that came before her.

And I'm actually like, I'm not even joking.

Like, I think the fact that she is literally the most beautiful woman alive, like, let's not take that for granted.

She's a talented actress.

She's best friends with Taylor Swift, too.

Everybody is the name on everybody's lips.

Her husband is Deadpool, Wolverine, et cetera.

Like all of that like rises up and it's like she's the obvious choice and she's been right in front of us this whole time.

No, I know.

And it's like we kind of like forgot about her in terms of acting.

Yes.

For many years.

Yes.

I love this season of her life.

I thought the photos were beautiful.

It's an homage to a movie I've never seen.

What is it?

Monte Carlo?

No, it's like not catching.

It's going to Monte Carlo.

What is it?

It's like catchers catch can.

It's some old-timey movie.

Catch your skatch can.

No, no, no.

What is it?

Do they say it in the...

I'm sure they do, but they say a lot of things.

Like Monte Carlo is referenced.

Do they say say we're not?

Like, oh, what about like Casino?

No, no, I'll tell you the name of the movie.

Hold on.

It was on Liz.

What's the story?

Where I live.

Heiress.

Where I literally learn everything.

The cat.

No, hold on.

Monsieur LeBrom.

Nope.

Catch is in it.

To catch a thief.

To catch a thief.

So she's like playing the girl in that movie and Hugh Jackman is like the...

The detective.

Also, it's weird that she's taking these lovey photos, even though this looks like a bad Photoshop.

Just want to say that.

It does look like a bad Photoshop.

But this photo to me is like weird that he has to look at her like adoringly when that's his best friend's wife.

Yes, but I think it makes it a lot better for these are like professionals and I'm sure she's more comfortable doing that with like someone who probably like knows her kids.

No, I feel like it would, it's better if it's either her husband who's also an actor and could have done it, but then it would have been away.

Right.

Or a complete stranger.

She also shared, so last night was the

premiere and like I feel like a lot of stories came out of it.

She shared, first of all, she was wearing like the actual dress that Britney Spears wore.

So it's like archive.

I think it's Versace.

Yes.

And she talked a lot about how she just like loves Britney as a millennial.

Like Brittany means so much to her as a woman in this business.

Britney means so much to her.

And I think that like my first thought was like, oh, you're playing Britney in the biopic.

Yeah, I saw Margaret Washer posted that vis-a-vis Liz Woods.

And I was like, oh, let's add her to the list.

And also in the picture of Britney wearing this dress from early 2000s, she looks like Blake Lively.

But then Blake, I think, left an Instagram comment being like, I would love to, like any day you ask me, but like, I don't think I'm right for the role.

I think she cited her age, obviously being a...

Well, I think we should have like a young Britney and an older Britney.

Yeah, I loved it.

I saw her as Britney in that moment, but I hadn't up until that point thought of considered Blake Lively for the role.

We were thinking like

Teeny Bopper, Teeny Bopper energy.

Yeah, but we were also thinking Teeny Bopper for it ends with us.

And we got Blake Lively, so perhaps she can do both.

So the premiere last night, she looked insane.

She was wearing Britney's dress.

She shared that like this iconic rooftop scene.

If you read the book, I think you're familiar with it, was actually written by her husband, Ryan Reynolds, and that they like worked together so much.

And everybody's like, that's so great.

For me, the big story was Justin Baldoni, like first event he's actually been to.

And I read everyone's feedback.

They were like, he's been sick.

He had an infection.

He was in the hospital.

Okay, fine.

That could explain why he, up until this point, hasn't been doing a press for a movie.

He discovered, he directed, he bought the rights to and started.

Sure.

Even though when you look at his Instagram story, which I did yesterday, it does look like he's doing like press for his movie.

He started press 36 hours ago.

Okay.

So you

could explain it away.

The infection could explain why he doesn't.

It doesn't explain the unfollow from Colleen.

And Blake.

We don't know if Blake was ever.

She did.

I'm sorry.

Like, she definitely did.

Okay.

That doesn't explain things to me.

And then a lot of people keep saying this.

And I'm sorry, this line of thinking is really pissing me off.

People are like, no, the studio is doing this intentionally.

They don't want Justin Baldoni to be like the center of the press because they don't want his character to be likable.

Because, you know, he,

I'm not going to spoil it, but in his character, it's like a, like a bad guy and he's kind of triggering.

And you don't want that.

Like, he's the first villain to ever be cast in a movie.

Like, no matter who you play, like, I think it's called acting.

Yeah.

Like, that line of thinking is bothering me so much.

People are like, no, no, they're doing it to like keep the audience safe.

Like, what are you talking about?

No, they're not.

They wouldn't make the movie then.

No, like, I was, I have fallen down such a, like, a spiral rabbit hole.

And people on TikTok are like, this is them being respectful.

Like, have you ever seen a movie before?

Like, it's called acting.

No, when he was like buzzy and hyped about the movie in the beginning, and he was always playing that person.

Correct.

He was the face of the movie.

No, and like, please just like, like, that's not it.

Like, that's not it.

And okay, let's say that was it.

It's not.

Wouldn't would not make sense as to why Blake and Colleen unfollowed him.

Maybe to also show.

Oh, please, like, stop.

There's something going on.

And

people,

people's general reaction has been like, if he isn't a nefarious actor, this would be so shocking because his brand up until this point has been like philanthropist, woman supporter, PJM.

And I'm sorry, it's always those guys.

It's always the philanthropist, P-Jom, woman supporter, who's an animal.

It's the one in the shirt that says the future is

so, and like, apparently.

Who was the last person that did this?

And we were like.

It was Olivia Wilde when she was like, Shaya, Shaya, Shaya.

And she's one of those women who's like, women, feminism above everything.

And so she's over here casting abusers with other women.

I feel like there was a man recently, though, who was literally this.

Maybe.

And turned out to be the worst.

It's always those guys.

Like, so to me, people are like, no, he can't be because he has a podcast with his wife where he talks about respecting women.

No, like it's literally those guys with podcasts that like quote unquote talk about respecting women.

It's those guys.

Yeah.

So I just want to say I have no proof that he did anything to virus but if he did like him being that type of philanthropist is of course incongruous with his brand no no and it's congruous with those guys classic however those guys pretend to be incongruous right

like i'm just saying that to me is not a defense if anything it's proof i at this point i agree we've seen so much i'm so skeptical of guys who are like so like oh like i bow for my woman really like i would love to know what you do behind closed doors because you're definitely the meanest person like it's always.

Like, if you have to say it so much, thou doth protest too much.

Okay, so I've definitely fallen down a rabbit hole.

So let me tell you what else I found.

Okay.

There's this, like, one specific clip.

I don't know what exactly his podcast is, but he, it's a lot about like marriage relationships.

And it was, I think he hosted with his wife.

And he

was talking about, it was their anniversary.

And he like gave this like speech on the podcast about like, she's so amazing.

And the reason they are, you know, where they are is all because of her.

And like, you know, when he fucked up and when he, it's like she leads with forgiveness.

And he he was just harping so much on like on how forgiving forgiving and gracious she is like what do you what'd you do right and so that's different than like i never take out the trash and she forgives me right the the clip had been viral initially being like oh look how cute and then like with a critical eye people are like what are you apologizing for like what'd you do yeah so there could be nothing there but i am like so down this rabbit hole i'm telling you like something's going on it's like There could be nothing there.

So we have to hold space.

No, Jackie, there can't.

Also, another

ism, like where there's smoke, there's fire.

Checkie, there can't be nothing there because Colleen Hoover unfollowed the guy who bought the rights to her book.

Like, there can't be nothing there.

But that could also be, that could happen to anyone because, like, making your book into a movie is so personal.

And it's very possible to get your feelings hurt along the way,

even if it's not because he's like turned out not to be a feminist.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like, because it's a very, like, they're going to change things and that's so personal to you.

So that could happen with anyone.

No, and I think a lot of people are just like choosing to see the Justin Baldoni in this world that they want to see because people love him from that show.

I have no stake in this game.

Like I just showed up and I see him with his man bun and I'm like, oh, you have a podcast.

Like there's some, I'm telling you, I'm seeing this through like an extremely critical eye.

I'm definitely biased, but I think everybody else who like loves him is also biased too.

Right.

They see him as like this hot, you know, Gina, Gina's man.

I feel not biased in this because I don't.

have an image of him.

Like I don't think of him.

So I'm going off of what I've seen and what you're telling me.

And there's, there's definitely something.

Thank you.

Something.

Something.

So back to Blake Lively really quickly.

I like only recently learned that her and her husband were like so tight with Hugh Jackman.

I learned it at the football game, I think with everybody else, right?

I always knew that like Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman like had this thing because they're always on social media like pranking each other.

Right.

And it's like a Deadpool Wolverine thing.

I've never like looked into it, but I've always known they've had this like public relationship.

And I do want to say, while I think this has been an amazing press tour for Blake Lively, for me, like my own personal experience, I think this has been actually a really great press tour for Ryan Reynolds.

I have always like eye rolled him.

Like I find, up until this point, I had found him like genuinely insufferable.

And I never understood how like Taylor could like him so much because he's like, to me, like always like.

cropping his wife out of photos like jokes with his wife like shut up like i don't know his whole shtick like forever really bothered me and i read a blind item like a million years ago that i never forgot which was basically and this is totally alleged and like probably not true but the blind item was that like he was really controlling and that whatever blake lively like wore acted in, breathed, like he had to have full approval of.

And like it kind of made sense.

I'm like, well, her movies all flop.

Like maybe it's because he's choosing them.

I don't believe that to be true anymore, but like I feel like that really colored the way I saw him for so long.

And now like watching him, he's been like such a stand-up husband, I think in this press tour and not in a way like that Justin Baldoni would be.

Do you know what I mean?

Or do you disagree?

I don't know.

I,

at a glance, I'm like, they're so, like, I, I think they're so sweet and all the Taylor stuff is really great.

So for the last year, it's been like all positive Ryan Reynolds, but I I haven't like heard him speak or anything.

And then I saw that he interviewed the guy who plays Atlas.

And at first I saw just that he did that.

I didn't watch the interview.

And then like a clip of the interview started and he started talking.

I was like, no.

Okay.

So it's like a check.

It's like skid.

It wasn't like a real interview.

No, I know, but just he started talking.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

You know, he's not for me.

He just, I didn't even hear the interview.

He just started talking.

He is not for me.

But my like dislike of him has definitely gone down severely.

I've never really thought about how I feel about him.

I've always disliked him.

Like, I've always found Van City Reynolds, like, his Instagram shit.

Like, I like, shut up.

I have found his shit like so fucking annoying.

But, like, now, I don't know.

I'm kind of liking it.

As a, as a father and husband, I agree.

It's like a better light to see him in.

Yeah.

And there, like, it's this clip that has gone viral on TikTok like a thousand times of this speech Blake Lively made.

I forget.

He was winning some award or whatever.

And she was the one who gave it to him.

And it was such a sweet speech.

Yeah, about how he's always like running home.

He comes home in costume.

Whether it's across the street or across the world like he comes home like he all he wants to do is get home to his family i loved it so much yeah that really like also was a catalyst in the changing in my opinion of him yeah my opinion it's in flux right now yeah and also like his obsession and like like the way he's so down to clown like with taylor swift and like put her music like in his yeah you know what like I think I might, and you know,

it's hard for me to say.

I think I might be, I might have been wrong about him.

No, no, no, no.

He's definitely a good guy.

Rising tides, raise all shades.

But I think unless we're like watching his movies and the things that like his art, we're not going to stand because it's not for us.

It's not for us.

Even though, remember when I said, I feel like my husband watches Deadpool a lot, low-key?

Since I've said that, I have come in like literally eight separate times he's watching it.

And I said it to him.

I was like, oh, and he was away that weekend.

And I was like, by the way, I said on the show and I realized it's true, like you kind of like watch Deadpool a lot.

I'm obsessed.

And he was like, oh my God.

He was like, I was watching it on the plane.

L-O-L.

Oh, something we also haven't spoken about, just really briefly, is the guy who plays Atlas, old Atlas, Brendan Sklenar.

He's from 19, what's that one?

23?

Mm-hmm.

Oh my God.

He was so good in that.

He is so hot.

Like, I think that was a perfect.

Like, I'm so excited.

I'm excited too.

We're going to try and see it.

We are going to try and see it this weekend.

This has been like a fun.

This has been a fun moment.

And I'm thankful to everyone who made it happen.

And I do also need to say, like, I feel like we gave it a hard time at points.

Of those pictures.

Impeded its journey.

Yeah.

But perhaps we were wrong.

And we'll be be able to call it when we see the movie which i feel like we were wrong based on everything i've seen no i think we're gonna love it margar washray like we said said she saw it said it was amazing and i pretty much like everything she likes yeah except when she didn't like amy schemer's movie i feel pretty but she was she couldn't understand it no no no no like only real ones understood that movie do you know what i mean yeah 100 that's literally the best movie ever made like seriously is it seriously like if you could have made a movie of my innermost thoughts like it would have been i feel pretty yeah not enough she doesn't get enough credit for that movie like train wreck is like her big movie and everybody's like trained but like to me i feel pretty was just as good.

And depending on the season of your life, like better at times.

Maybe not even better, but truly more relatable.

Yeah.

Like, I think, like, I wish that I Feel Pretty got the Barbie treatment.

Like the way everybody was like, girlhood, girlhood.

Like, that's fucking I Feel Pretty, bitch.

Okay.

Agreed.

That's why Amy Schumer should have been Barbie.

By the way, the older you get.

Maturing is realizing Amy Schumer should have been Barbie.

And that's not a clown on Margaraby.

She was amazing.

And that the storyline should have been like elf, Barbie elf, like cast out of Barbie land for being an outcast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It writes itself.

It writes itself.

Okay.

Are you ready for our next story?

I am.

I feel like I had one more thought about this, but I can't remember it.

So let's just move on.

Well, we could always circle back because we're talking about the teeny boppers.

Sabrina, it's the summer of Sabrina, according to Variety Mag.

She is their cover girl this year.

She's talking about hitting number one on the charts, getting advice from her best friend Taylor, and what Barry Kyogan really thinks about her lyrics.

So all of those things are really great things that she's talking about.

There was one point of the interview that really stuck stuck out for me because one theme that they're talking about, which is, I think, something that you and I always talk about, where she said, she feels like a new artist, but this is her sixth album,

which is like sort of this weird place to be in.

It's very Disney channel coded.

It's very Disney channel coded.

And she's talking about some of her early records, you know, thumbs

up why.

And this is what she said, quote, for the people who love those early records and listen to them, I love you for that.

Oh, no.

But I personally feel a sense of separation from from them.

That's fine.

Largely due to the shift in who I am as a person and as an artist pre-pandemic and post-pandemic.

So she's talking to me.

Thank you, Sabrina.

And I think that's totally fair.

She's grown up.

Those are like frontal lobiers that happened in between.

So she's changed who she is as a person.

The pandemic changed who everyone is.

And also, I think the.

level of the incident with Olivia and Joshua, that like completely changes and hardens you as a person.

So I think the combination of those three things, yes, I can understand why, you know, Too Young no longer represents Sabrina.

And now she's in a please, please, please era.

For sure, but she was also just like in a box.

She was very limited in what she could put out.

I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't even write those songs.

Like when you're on a Disney contract, like you just do what you're told.

Yeah.

So while I think those songs like musically are very great, do I think they're like Sabrina's innermost thoughts?

No.

Like I don't think she wrote them.

No.

And I do think her last album, which was Emails and that had like, just because I liked a boy skin, she said like that sonically, it's like the little sister to this next album that's coming out short and sweet.

She said it's like the hot older sis.

She also said she finished the album before Espresso and Please, Please, Please came out.

And she's so glad that she did because like perhaps the reception of those songs, one, would have put so much pressure and two might have changed what she did.

She might have been like, oh, if people liked

Espresso, let me, that's that, me latte.

Yeah, me latte.

Yeah, latte me.

This is like a complete work of art that's not influenced by her success.

And for that, I'm so excited.

Me too.

She's also just someone who's having such a moment.

And I'm so happy for her.

And I think this must be how people feel about Chappell Roan.

Like, for me, Sabrina is somebody who's been on my radar for, like, I remember in college in my internship listening to her music.

Like, she's been on my radar.

And it's like, it's really nice to see somebody who you think is talented, like, finally getting the success that they deserve.

And for Chapel Roan, like, that's something a total blind spot for me.

I've never heard of this person up until last week.

But, like, she just had the biggest, you know, daytime performance at Lollapalooza, like having record success.

I'm sure she'll be on like the next season of SNL.

But isn't she like a true new artist?

Kind of, but, like, people have been knowing Chappell for many years.

She had like an internet following.

Many years.

How many albums?

I don't know how much music she's actually released.

That's a very good question.

And I also want to see how old she is.

Like you can only have done it for so long.

Yeah.

She's, I think, a similar age to someone.

Oh, 26.

Okay.

Yeah.

You're right.

Yeah.

And so like those people must be having an amazing day, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just like, I'm familiar with some of the music.

H-O-T-T-O-G-O.

And it slaps, it slaps, but it's not, I feel like it takes a lot of energy to become like a new fan of someone.

And I'm currently just not in the era of my life where I have energy.

No, when you

told me about Chappelle on the show, I had never heard of her.

And I know that if I came to her organically, like I would have thought it was Chappelle Roan.

You would have thought it was Chappelle Roan for sure.

And so now I'm like waiting for it to organically hit me because I feel like now I notice it because you told me about it, but I don't know that I would have gotten there yet.

Yeah, but it's also interesting because has it organically hit you?

No.

H-O-T-T, h-o-t-t like once you said that i would have been like oh yeah i've heard that from people's like instagram stories and stuff right but no i don't like walk down the aisle in cvs and it's pain no she's like not like she's having crazy unprecedented success but within like a bubble of the internet like it hasn't bled over to like radio and mainstream which i find so shocking um because usually like

mainstream these days takes their notes from tick tock right so i don't know like what's stopping she definitely feels like because i see tweets all the time people being like i'm at that age where i don't know who chapel rone is like why hasn't she bled over yet I don't know but I think if she keeps doing what she's doing it will yeah it will but like you can't walk down the aisle at CBS without hearing espresso like that's stemming everyone knows espresso I love Sabrina like I'm so happy for it it's a summer of Sabrina and someone was quoted in the article who works with her that was like everyone who works with Sabrina like can see how talented she is and that like she is it and it's so nice that like after all this time like the world is seeing that but they say it was only a matter of time because she's so genuinely talented what did she say about tailored Oh, and the other thing I wanted to say about Blake Lively is I think it's very cool how pretty much every single time she's being spoken to by anyone, like there's always a question about Taylor Swift.

And I actually don't think that bothers her at all.

Like I think she like really loves the lore and the Swifties and like appreciates the value that that brings to her life, but also to her career.

And I think it like must be annoying.

Every single time there is a question.

Same with Sabrina.

And I don't think it bothers her.

No, and she always has great answers.

Yeah, she's like, she was asked yesterday, like her favorite song.

Her favorite song.

And she said, literally, that's the hardest question.

Like, I couldn't even even tell you.

I'd have an easier time telling you my favorite child.

Like, that's funny.

That's funny.

That is funny.

So, Sabrina was talking about Taylor and about how apparently when she did skims and then she said that she asked Taylor, then Taylor haters were like asking for permission to do a campaign is crazy.

So she said, quote, she's such a gangster with all of it.

No matter what people are saying, everything that I've ever seen her tackle, she's done so with grace.

The posts about me having to ask for her permission, no, she's one of my best, best friends.

And we grab dinner or text and catch up like you would with your best friend.

She said, it's so cool for me to get perspective on this whole process from her and the community of artists that I feel I'm close to to get advice from them on stuff that you can't just ask the internet.

We're always playing each other our music.

And whenever I start to think maybe I'll get on Twitter and say something about this, I'm always like, maybe I'll write a song instead.

Got it.

Got it.

Yeah.

So just good friend.

Oh, I also, we had spoken last or earlier in the week that Suki is opening for.

Taylor Eras London.

We didn't talk about it on the show.

Oh, we didn't.

Well, Suki Waterhouse is opening for Taylor Swift in Wembley.

And do you know who else is?

And I just want to say I fucking called that shit.

I saw it, but I forgot.

Maisie Peters.

Yeah, that's right.

I just want to say, like, I said that she was going to.

Oh, that she was going to open?

Yeah.

Oh, cool.

Like I said that.

Cool.

Congrats.

Here, I'm sure you can go find it.

Like I said it.

So congrats.

Just edits the list of things I was writing about.

It's a very short list.

And you know who should be opening for Taylor?

Me?

Mimi Webb.

Yes.

We had this conversation.

We had it on Patreon 2023 at a glance where I was sharing Maisie Peters songs that were my favorite.

Oh, for sure.

Yep.

And I said she's going to open for for Taylor.

And did I say Mimi should?

Well, I stand by it.

Yeah.

And just like I waited for Sabrina to have her flowers, I sit here waiting for Mimi and her flowers.

She sat.

I'm sat waiting.

She sat waiting.

Are you ready for our next story?

Or do I need to take away my shoe from Romeo before it's going to get destroyed?

Romeo's been eating your shoe for about 10 minutes.

I knew.

I didn't say anything.

Like, if we want to keep the boys at bay, I'll get you a new pair of shoes.

Like, you just, you kind of have to give the shoe over.

Okay.

I don't think he'll get me a new pair of shoes because he's been eating them all of summer.

Let him have it.

Like, did you guys see during the ad break how insane they were being?

Like, they're both separate.

They're both at peace.

Like, you just have to give the shoe up for the cause.

Okay.

Our next story, a little new throwback news.

Paris Hilton joins a hot dog costume wearing Nicole Ritchie to film the Simple Life reboot at a Sonic Drive-In.

So.

Pictures have emerged of Paris and Nicole getting back to work on the Simple Life reboot.

The duo, who call themselves Silly and Billy on their reality show, put a chic spin on the fast food chain's blue uniform with hilton sporting a pair of barkley silver heels and nicole wearing some cute pumps as well and styling their uniforms as mini dresses so the girls are back we knew they were going to be back working at sonic by the way i love their first top being like uh first of all totally branded love that for sonic but also fast food like that's actually a really hard job and i think like a lot of the machines are really confusing so i think entertainment wise like this will be very funny yeah i love and also danny pellegrino was there i don't know what his involvement was but i saw paparazzi pictures Like he was like their manager or something.

I'm not sure what the like

setup was, but he was there.

It'll be interesting to see the format.

I feel like the thing that made the show great, the secret sauce, was the chemistry between the two of them.

And it's because they were like such good friends.

They're like not anymore.

I know.

I feel like they're good.

They're on good terms.

They're like, friends again, but like to that level of closeness.

I don't know.

No.

And also, they are like moms, business owners.

They have like a lot to lose now.

What was so iconic about them was like the reckless nature in which they lived their lives.

Like they were just like driving cars 100 miles an hour, wearing tiny skirts and like making out with boys who in the middle of nowhere.

Like they didn't give a flying fuck.

Now it's like this show is a part of but like she has this huge Paris, obviously DJ, internet persona, like this huge career.

Nicole has this huge fashion empire like and they're both moms.

Like I just don't think it's gonna be like what it was, but for the sake of nostalgia, like it'll be fun.

But if you ever really truly want to feel something, it's on Prime.

the simple life.

Like do that.

Like that's a journey worth taking.

It won't be what it was.

They're not going to be doing those things, but I think there's room for it to still be like good and fun.

And they are both like funny, interesting people.

So they don't have to be doing that in order to be funny and interesting.

No, they don't.

We'll see.

Romeo's taking the second shoe.

So I'll just send me a link.

One, two shoe.

Yeah.

Gone.

Okay.

Enjoy, Rome.

He's got good taste.

He didn't take my crap from Amazon.

He took your nice ones.

Yeah, he loves an Ugg.

Listen.

Those Uggs were like on their last legs anyway, not to be a bitch.

Like, they're like brown now.

They were once purple.

No, I got them like six eight months ago how often do you get new slippers uh when they're from amazon weekly when they're ug though oh i i i really treated myself because my all my other slippers were worn down so i was like i want a pair of like cozy slippers and yeah i've worn them a lot but i wasn't going to get a new pair like this year maybe in the winter okay i didn't know that they were ug

oh yeah but They're already wet on the inside.

So many times I've put my shoe into my slippers here in this house and they're wet.

Thanks, Ro.

You think it was Roe?

Like, how do you know?

How do you know?

It's really, yeah.

Like, how do you know it wasn't Duck?

It's true.

Maybe pouring water in my slippers.

Literally.

Like, how do you know?

You don't know for sure that it was Romeo.

We don't know.

We'll never know.

So looking forward to this.

Did they say where we're going to be able to watch it?

I feel like when we announced it, that it was coming back, we had announced it.

I feel like it's Peacock.

I feel like it's Peacock too.

I feel like every streaming service like has a moment, you know?

And Peacock, like, was kind of slow to start.

They didn't really have much.

And Max, I think, was it for like a really long time.

Max was really having a big moment.

And now with Love Island, with the Olympics, I think, you know, Peacock is having traders.

It's the summer of Peacock.

I'm happy for that.

But I do think it's not like one, you only get one.

I think it comes in waves.

Like sometimes Hulu's having a moment?

Kardashians, tell lies.

But I think with the, with the newer ones, like to cement yourself is like a real stream.

For so long, I felt like Peacock was like, it could get shut down at any minute.

Like it was so like whatever.

Now I feel like because they had a moment, like they're cemented.

After Max had a moment, I was like, okay, good for them.

No, I don't feel like Peacock would get shut down because it's tethered to NBC.

So as long as like NBC is making content and doing something, like Peacock has a leg to stand on.

But yeah, it's been a slow start.

But the best things are.

So derome.

You don't want to be a flash in the pan.

No, you don't.

No.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Yeah.

Justin Timberlake had a vape pen, Rolex, and $300 cash at the time of his DWI arrest, police report shows.

Wait, wait, what kind?

Justin Timberlake's pockets were full when he was arrested on DWI charges in the Hamptons earlier this summer.

After refusing to take a breathalyzer, he was placed in handcuffs, put into the backseat of a squad car, and taken to the Sag Harbor Village Police Department, where the responding young officer took inventory of his property.

He was reportedly in possession of a vape pen, a pricey Rolex, a gold ring, and a wallet that contained $306 in cash during his arrest.

Oh, this is so interesting to me.

Yeah.

Like, he obviously didn't know he was going to get arrested.

So, what is Justin Timberlake?

Like a huge pop star.

What does he bring out with him, like, to go get drinks?

This, like, tracks nothing out of the ordinary.

I'm dying to know, like, flavor, brand of the vape.

I have to assume it was a tobacco like nicotine vape because if it was pot, like is that illegal in the state of New York?

And I don't think that would be called a vape pen.

I think it would.

Really?

I feel like they would have said marijuana.

They totally would have said marijuana.

Right.

So I think we can safely assume like a Miley, a jewel.

Yes.

Yes.

What do you think he smokes?

No, because also if he was high, that would have been in this.

Right, right, right.

What do you think he smokes?

Um,

I feel like he does like tobacco-flavored jewel.

You think he charges it like in his phone charger?

Yeah.

I don't think he does.

I think he's disposable.

I think he's wasteful.

Yeah, I guess.

Like, what are the.

I think he's a single-use face.

So, what are the kids?

Like, they do like puff bars.

What's that new one?

I'm like not caught up, but it's literally like a big, thick rectangle.

Yeah.

It's like a tiny little.

Yeah.

I think he might do like Smilers.

People like, is that what it's called?

They throw them to me when we're in the middle of it.

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I don't think he does Stigs.

I feel like only we do Stigs.

Yeah, by the way, I wasn't going to bring up Stigs.

Stigs are not popular.

Yeah, like, how do we even get introduced to them?

Oh, I'll tell you, I was at a birthday party of Ben's friend.

His name, it was Victor's Party.

And I was in my Jewel era.

And one of Ben's friends, I think it was like this guy, James, like who I'm not like super tight with, he like was telling me about it.

And like, it was over.

But I think also because when Jewel was going down and they were taking away the flavors, the fruity flavors, then you had to find your flavor in another company.

So that's why Dig had a flavor that you liked.

Mango.

Mango.

Yeah.

And there, and there you have it.

It's like literally so weird that they had to like shut down Jewel and their fruity flavors, just like this one company, but you can go and get a fruity vape anywhere else.

You know what we need to add to my list of biggest regrets?

Not investing in Jewel?

Yeah.

Well, why?

You would have then lost a lot of money.

No, I would have.

I'm a conservative investor.

Like once it hit, I would have like sold.

So like I have to go find the email like a million, way before Jewel was popular.

I want to say like three years before Jewel took off, I got a PR package like with all the pods and I didn't even smoke it.

I was like, what is this?

And it was right when electric cigarettes had like become a thing.

And they emailed me.

They wanted to work with influencers in exchange for equity.

They didn't have like a lot of money.

And I was like, girl, no, ew.

No, you can't even regret that because you would never, there's no world where you would have said yes to that because any box that shows up at your door, like you're not interested in equity.

I need to find the email.

Even though now if I search search like Jewel in my email, I probably have like a thousand things.

Yeah, because it's always in the news.

Rip Jewel.

Rip Jewel.

I just, I feel like they were like singled out.

Don't you feel?

Like in hindsight, you can get fruity flavored vapes anywhere.

Yeah, I just searched Jewel in my email and I found like a hate, a piece of hate mail I got.

Somebody must have found my personal email.

Her name is Claire.

Subject line, Jewel, all caps.

You lost a follower.

How could you post an Instagram about Jewel?

How could you take money from big tobacco?

I literally didn't.

The deaths of youths who start smoking because you posted that meme are on you.

Wow.

Okay, Claire.

Like, you're going to be okay.

And I don't think she's going to be okay.

I don't think she is.

I think that email points to like something

wrong.

Yeah.

Something wrong with Claire.

That's really crazy.

Yeah.

Thanks, Claire.

Are you ready for our next story, our fifth and final?

No.

It's a little book news.

Are you?

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Our fifth and final story, a little book news.

Liza Minelli will release her memoirs.

Memoirs of Eliza.

It's her own damn story, and she's going to share it, Liza Minelli said of her memoir, which will be published in spring 2026.

Okay.

Thanks for the

lead

notice.

Liza Minelli is ready to put pen to paper.

On Tuesday, Grand Central Publishing announced its acquisition of a memoir by the EGOT icon.

She opened up about entertainment tonight about the memoir, which is set to be published in two years.

She said one part or two.

So far, it's one part.

Quote, today I opened my heart and my lungs to shout about a story which has never been told, mine.

Read about it here, and this will have to hold you until we publish when it all comes true.

I just want to say if Liza Minelli can write her book in one part, so can chair.

Sorry.

Not to be a hater.

The memoir.

Not to bring chair into this.

I agree.

The memoir will be a candid review of her life, both professionally and personally.

Her extraordinary life story begins with a childhood in the spotlight, being the daughter of actress Julie, Judy Garland, and the, and director Vincente Minelli.

Her career spans over six decades, with notable breakout successes in Cabaret and Liza with a Z.

The memoir will also examine raw moments of her life, including her four marriages and struggles with substance abuse.

Oh, damn, I didn't know that.

Yes, I mean, I'm sure she has an insane story.

Who's her mom?

Judy Garland.

Okay.

Wizard of Oz.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I just saw this funny clip of Joan Rivers on some late night show.

And she was like, What do you, the interviewer was like, what do you want your grandson to be when he grows up?

And she said, gay, because who else is going to care that I was friends with Judy Garland?

And it was so funny.

And I get, okay, like, this is a blind spot for me.

This is like an era of Hollywood that I feel like Olivia is obsessed with.

Yeah.

I don't know.

No, I think Olivia is obsessed with like Judy Garland, not Liza Minelli.

Right, right.

And I know she's like a gay icon, cabaret star for me.

Arrested development.

Lucille 2.

Okay.

arrested development, but also Sex in the City 2 movie.

Oh, what does she do there?

She performs at the wedding of Stanford and Anthony.

That's so funny.

And like, that's like my breadth of knowledge when it comes to her career.

And I know, like, she has a very storied, like, iconic career.

So I actually think a book is great for her.

No, and I feel the same way about her.

Definitely a blind spot.

I don't feel bad about it.

She's before our time.

And I feel like she's someone whose book I would read and then have like an immense appreciation for her and like take me down a rabbit hole of all these things that I didn't know.

A la Priscilla Presley's book.

Yep.

Carrie White the Hairdresser from the 80s.

Her 60s.

Also, when I think of her, I think of that iconic Twitter account, Liza Minelli outlived.

And anytime like a major world event happens, they'll say Liza Minelli outlived,

or if somebody dies, Liza Minelli outlived Betty White.

Yeah.

It's really cool.

Well, she's 78.

Like Betty White was not that on her.

I don't know why I thought she was like 100.

Yeah.

And then does she have a famous spawn, Liza Minelli?

Oh, I thought it was like a three-generation.

Oh, like Priscilla, Lisa, Maria, and her J.

No, and like Billy Lord.

I always get their trio.

Is there like Carrie Fisher?

That's like a similar era of Hollywood.

Yeah.

The three of them, I'm always like, so who's Liza's child?

I don't think she's famous.

No, if she even has, they're not coming up on her IMTV mini.

So no.

Interesting.

Well, this is a good, good book.

It's kind of like book season.

I feel like everybody's announcing books.

Yeah, I like that.

I like books.

I like to read.

Speaking of, Redhead's episode finally dropped, Paradise Problem.

Check it out.

One, read the book because it's a great swirly summer read.

And two, if you have no intention of reading the book, listen to the episode because we're just like fun and we're having a good time.

And it's our last episode till October because we're taking a month off for Dana's Matt Leave.

Because you support women in the arts.

We do.

And we support working women and working mothers as we always have.

And you always will.

Yeah.

I don't think that's up for debate.

Well, everybody be sure to check that out.

And the fabulous news, in addition to the Redheads episode finally dropping, is that the episode for today is not over because we have Deer Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jax and I try to help the swirlies out, whatever it is that they're going through.

We try to give our best advice.

We think we're sound of mind individuals, and it's always good to hear from a third-party perspective who is sound of mind.

So if you ever want to write into us, we do it every Wednesday.

We take three submissions.

It's deertoas at gmail.com.

That should be the name of the segment.

Not Deer Toasters, but a third-party perspective who is sound of mind.

With particular interest in the matter.

The email account is deartoasters at gmail.com.

You can write to us there.

You can head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com.

There's an anonymous submission box there.

That's also where you can find tickets to our live show in Atlantic City.

So our, you know, I'll save that one for last, actually.

Okay, ready for this?

Yes, Furlays.

I'm 28 and I play on a co-ed indoor soccer team every Wednesday night.

I've been on the same team for the last six years.

Different people come and go, but the most part, it's the same.

people consistently.

The guy that runs the team has been there from the beginning and in the last year or so, I have caught him sneakily taking pictures of me.

I never brought it up to anyone because I had no real proof, but it is very obvious.

like when you're trying to take a photo of someone without them knowing, holding it at his chest, pointing it awkwardly up, like not naturally holding his phone.

I finally asked a girl on my team to pay attention and see if she noticed it.

She texted me late last night after our game and said she saw his camera app open

and saw him take two photos.

The weird thing is it's literally when I'm walking into the building or when I'm sitting down after the game to take my shoes off, I'm wearing soccer shorts and a baggy t-shirt, like nothing scandalous here.

Fuck the society that I even have to mention that.

Even more weird is that his wife's brother plays on the team also.

I don't know what to do.

The easy answer is just to quit the team and never come back, but I feel like this is why so many women never speak up and men get away with shit like this.

And I feel like I need to do something about it.

100%, especially because you've been here for six years and you like doing this team.

This is so fucked up.

My first question is, is like, is there any sort of superior who you can raise this to?

Wait, is there like a way to get him kicked off the team?

No, or like or someone, have someone else handle it and someone else speak to him?

Cause I totally understand like you not wanting to confront him yourself.

It's like

so scary.

But I feel torn because like, yes, they shouldn't be able to get away with this.

And like, you have to speak up for, you know, all the women who can.

But at the end of the day, like, you're also putting yourself in danger.

And like, this man's obviously a freak.

And so if you get him kicked off or like you tell everyone, like, this is the type of freak who would retaliate and like your safety is paramount, you know?

Yeah, but I think you have to do something, especially like he's married and there's the brother on the team.

Like I think you need to bring it up to like everyone on the team and then everyone goes and talks to him.

Yeah.

Or if there's like someone, someone higher up that you could talk to, or this has nothing to do with your work, right?

No, it's just a co-ed indoor soccer team.

That's so weird.

He's so creepy.

No, but also, like, I feel like you should, like, men like this think they're preying on people who are like vulnerable and weak, but you should literally just go up to me.

Like, why are you taking photos of me?

Like, be ballsy.

And who has the authority to kick him off the team?

Because he shouldn't be on the team after this.

But that's like the hard part about being an adult is like, there's no infrastructure.

There's not like a principle.

Yeah.

So that's why you have to get your.

That's why you have to get your teammates like all on the same page, especially like this one girl saw saw it and she can like say what she saw.

So you need to talk to the other people.

You should all confront him and get him kicked off the team.

And then also the wife's brother should also know that her husband is doing this.

I don't even know what he's doing with the, like, what is he doing?

It's not good.

There's no good outcome.

No, if you do take that route, which I agree with, like then also, like, just be aware that there like might be like a freak who he is a freak, like mad at you.

And like, you know, lock your doors, things like that.

Yeah.

Like, you don't, like, it's such a tough situation because you don't want to put someone in the position of like wanting to retaliate, you know?

Of course.

But he, what is he doing with these pictures?

I don't know.

She said they're not even that's also like a scare, like a freaky situation to think about.

So tell everyone.

I would, I would have a meeting with the entire team and ask them to like stand behind you and confront him, kick him off the team and

take it from there.

And that's that, you know?

But I agree.

Wife's brother, like this is a person who's married to, like, she's got to know.

100%.

She has to know.

She's got to know.

This one's so funny to me.

Okay.

Hi, Jackson Claude.

Well, this part isn't funny, sorry.

Back in November, my boyfriend of three and a half years cheated on me.

I moved out immediately and out of guilt, he offered to pay rent at a new place for me and my dog.

It was officially an Airbnb, but he's been paying month to month directly to the owner ever since.

I no longer speak to him and I have no clue how long he intends to pay my rent for my living.

Do I reach out to him or just keep coasting?

I get anxiety thinking that I could be displaced at any moment.

Also, I'm almost ready to start dating again.

So do I have to disclose to future partners that my ex pays for my house?

For the record, it's a two-bedroom with a yard and four times the amount of something I could really afford on my own.

Thank you.

Okay.

I know other people would be like, I don't want to live somewhere.

I feel like we always read that in books.

Like, I don't want to take your money.

Take the money and run.

And in all the months that he's been paying for your rent, like, I hope you've been saving your rent money so that if one day he just doesn't pay it anymore, that you can at least pay that month and

find the time to find a new place.

I think you should totally stay there and enjoy.

And that's it.

And you can date.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Once you're in a serious relationship and like a real, you know, boyfriend, girlfriend situation, one, you could either tell your partner that this is a situation or then you could be like it's cut it off i've moved on but yeah like awesome can i ask you a question like

this happens you get cheated on by your boyfriend three and a half years there's nothing worse

but then he does this like do we forgive him is he asking for for if he is he looking for forgiveness I feel like he's doing this because he feels bad, but does he even want to be together?

Or did he cheat on you with someone who he's not with?

No, I don't think he wants to be together.

I think he like, what the vibe that I got is like, he really, really inconvenienced and hurt you.

And like, how can you make up for that?

You really can't, but like, this is, this is significant.

Yeah.

No, I could forgive someone.

That doesn't mean I'm going to get back together with them.

No, no, I don't mean.

I don't mean.

I mean, like, do you, like, this person hurt you and you're not going to get back together with him?

But do you forgive them for the thing that they did?

Yeah, I think so.

As long as they're also, they're other actions, like they're apologetic, they feel bad.

They're not running around town spreading rumors.

Yeah, I think that you could forgive this person.

Also, it's better for you to forgive them and not hold on to that anger.

And no, this is that kind of major.

Like, this is a power move.

If you've ever cheated on someone and you feel so bad, like you don't know what to do with your guilt, like you don't want to get back with them, but you don't want them to be sad, like pay their rent.

Yeah.

That is extremely generous.

That's awesome.

So take it as far as you can.

Save your money so that when the day comes, you're not out on your tail.

Save your money.

And that you can just pay the Airbnb for the month while you look for a place and, you know, say that was a nice.

That was a nice place to live for a while.

And who did you used to date?

Moneybags.

Right.

Paying two rents.

And this is like a massive spot.

Love it.

maybe you should get back together with it no kidding i'm totally kidding okay our third and final is an update from something we read pretty recently about the girl okay i'll just read you her original submission she started dating this guy two months ago and tonight before leaving to go hang out with him she pooped he picked her up they went to a bar with her friends and then came back to her apartment he went to the bathroom right when they got there from the living room she heard a flush and then she heard him peeing and then flushing again so clearly something was in the toilet that he had to flush before peeing regretfully she asked why did you flush and he said, no reason.

And now she can't stop thinking about the fact that she forgot to flush when she went to the bathroom while getting ready.

And he definitely saw her poop.

Do I ask him about this?

Do I need to lie, convince myself?

And we basically told her, like, shut the fuck up.

You can ask him when you're married.

Yeah.

And there's a world in which he did something.

that he needs to flush first.

Yes.

And so here's her update.

Update from this whirly who recently learned that she has serious toilet flushing issues.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to wait until we were married to ask if he saw my duty in the toilet because my dumbass forgot to flush again.

Luckily, this time it was just pee and the topic came up.

Anyways, to make a long story short, I did indeed forget to flush that time.

And he did see what we all deep down knew that he saw.

On the bright side, he didn't make me feel embarrassed about it in the slightest.

And it validated that he truly is a P jom and the P jom that I thought he was.

No, so he's really mature.

I'm happy for you that you've met him.

Like, I'm not mature enough.

No, no, I'm not sure.

Like, I can't, I'm, I'm in shock.

Although I do want to say, sometimes in relationships, what is the book that I read?

They turned it into a movie with Lucy Hale, The Hating Game.

She got so violently sick with this guy that she was like into, and she's like throwing up diarrhea and like he's taking care of her because he like went to med school, but he dropped out.

It can bring you together.

It can.

Like bodily functions are horrible.

They're seriously the most embarrassing.

Like I know married women, one of them sitting right next to me who won't even fart.

Like I know, but.

It does have potential.

Like this is a person who hopefully is going to see you give birth.

I totally agree, but the way she described their relationship, it seemed like very early days.

Very, they were like, they weren't even like boyfriend girl.

They were just dating two months.

I don't even know if he knew that he liked her.

So why would you like stick around to find out when you've seen someone's duty?

But it's because, like, he's mature and

it didn't phase him.

And I'm so happy that there's people like that.

So, this could have gone either way.

And I'm really happy for you that it got in the way of like, you realize this guy really likes you.

He's super mature.

We love that.

Just know, like, this could have gone so poorly.

Just know.

Just know that this could have gone really poorly and let it be a lesson to like fucking flush.

Okay.

Like, unacceptable.

Unacceptable.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But thank you for writing into us and we never hear back.

Braving, you know, these choppy waters, burying your soul.

Like it means a lot.

It means the world.

And to anyone who's written in and we've given you advice, please update us.

We would love to hear from you.

You can email us an update or head over to the website.

These dogs are about to fucking kill each other.

We absolutely have to.

Literally, National Geographic.

Nat Theo.

Nat Theo.

Nat Rio.

Nat Brio.

Okay, they're about to knock over the lights and the camera.

Oh, God.

Thank you so much.

Love you.

Bye.