Travy Made It To The Big Show: Monday, July 1st, 2024

1h 10m
  1. The Story Behind Olivia Culpo's Traditional Dolce & Gabbana Ballgown for Her Rhode Island Wedding (VOGUE) (23:22)
  2. Simone Biles Headlines a U.S. Women's Gymnastics Team Eyeing Redemption at the Paris Olympics (AP) (30:31)
  3. Taylor Swift Beams when Travis Kelce Appears to Surprise Her at Dublin Eras Show (ET) (38:50)
  4. Khloe Kardashian Celebrates 40th Birthday with Dolly Parton-inspired Bash (Page Six) (53:41)
  5. Paul Mescal and Gracie Abrams Seen Out Together in London (ELLE) (1:00:18)


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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

Happy Monday that feels seriously like when you're as talented and successful as we are, like the days really don't matter.

So, you're saying it doesn't feel like a Monday?

No, I mean, there's so much joyousness to acknowledge.

To me, it feels like January 1st.

Oh, no.

So Monday.

It to me.

It feels like the longest weekend, in like not even in a good way, in like a a

end of an era way.

I'm feeling like it's December 24th, like the day before Christmas break.

Wow.

That's so crazy how we're having different days.

I just feel like it's like as Monday as they come.

Oh crap, you'll have to pass fire at my house.

I meant to bring it.

I was like, literally.

We're going to be together the whole summer.

I'll find you sucking up.

It's like kind of addicting.

I get why the kids are obsessed.

Like kids these days, I see you.

It's the, it's the, well, I was going to say modern.

It's a relaxation.

It's a vape.

Yeah.

I'm obsessed.

Imagine if I just become one of those like, like I identify as a bait toddler, you know?

Imagine.

And I start, like, rubbing my band.

Perhaps not.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

What's that from?

That's like one of our things, no?

Smile, don't smile.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

It's giving smile, don't smile.

Really?

Yeah.

By the way, under, what is it from?

Thank you, white chicks.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Also, you know what I'm just now realizing?

Smile, don't smile, which is one of our favorite things to say, is obviously from Bring It On, but it's a sparky pilastery quote.

All iconic quotes are.

All roads lead back to sparky pilastery.

It's true.

So I'll also say, I'll be with you all summer if you want to find the time to give me that pack seat bag.

Like my things are all packed, and like I left it on the counter.

My bags are packed.

She's ready to go.

That's why I look like such a freak today.

Like, I don't want to talk about my outfit.

Everything cool and summery that I owned has been loaded up.

So I just thought to myself, what if I wore this dirty sweater I wore all weekend and a pair of leggings?

Well, I have officially worn two and three times all of the clothes that I brought for this week of like podcasting and going from here to there and there to here.

And I'm out of athleisure, so I had to wear my nicest Seamla and a cardigan.

I literally had nothing else to wear.

We are survivors.

We will get through this.

We're just getting through.

But let's talk about, there's so many things to talk about.

Like you said, it was the longest weekend, but it did kick off with another sold-out show at the Weekend Theater, Toast Live, Girlies Whirlies, Night Out.

We haven't seen you guys here, minus 3,000 of you, since Friday.

Minus 3,000.

Minus a cool 3,000.

Another.

Yeah, we've been to the year 3,000.

I feel like we can only play venues that hold 3,000 people, you know?

It's a kind of our number.

It is.

It's a good one.

It's kind of crazy that like 6,000 people saw us this weekend.

Do you know what I mean?

That is crazy.

And that 12,000 people total will see us at the beacon

over the course of this residency.

Right.

This led.

That's a lot of people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it was an amazing night.

The toasters came out again in full force.

This Friday night had a sense of electricity, a sense of magic, because it was a Friday night in New York City and the girly swirlies were having a night out.

It was a girly swirly night out.

There's really nothing more to say other than it was amazing.

Can't wait to do it again.

You bitches aren't ready.

That's really it.

I'm really excited to do it in West Hampton because it's going to be the same GSNO vibe, which is an elite vibe.

But with like a beachy feel.

There's going to be something laid back about it.

Like this was very dressed to the nines, razzle, dazzle.

Bright lights, big city.

We might as well have been in Vegas.

We were.

But this is going to be just like a little bit, even my seamless are a little different.

Like I'm really excited for that laid-back beach town feel.

Sort of nautical toast energy.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like that.

So it's just going to be a great summer of doing shows.

We're literally a bunch of showmen.

You don't even understand how much showmanship we have.

I, in three days, did six podcasts total.

Like we did the Redheads.

Our showman.

Allen.

No, no, you're definitely a showman.

I feel like I'm currently like in my IT boy era because this is our last show in this gorgeous studio for the summer.

We're headed out east.

I literally have a truck full of equipment.

I'm literally the IT department.

I know I'm going to be spending all day like sweating over like these microphones and stuff.

So you don't feel like the greatest showman?

I mean, Peteen Barnum like put up the tents himself.

Yeah, of course.

Like we are nothing else.

Showmen are.

You really don't just show up unless you're J-Lo.

No, we we are.

And even she

doesn't show up these days.

We are literally scrappy.

So I, and I just kind of wanted to put that out there.

Like the next probably three shows, like, they will be fluid in terms of their tech abilities.

Like, I just need you all to bear with me.

I am like the one woman I.T.

department of the toast hours.

We're working progress, and we always like.

take a few days

and then it's so great.

So I'm just like asking you all, nothing gets asking for grace.

Nothing gets a community lit up more than a tech issue.

I'm doing my best.

I've only been doing this for two fucking days.

Okay.

Give her grace.

As long as the audio is good, which is pretty much always fine.

Audio is easy.

Audio is way easier than video.

You know, we'll find our angles.

That's really more of like an us thing where we're like, we didn't like it.

Yeah.

And maybe it's like if we stopped like being ugly, then we would be happy, but we're not.

Oh, I don't think it's us being ugly.

Uh-oh.

I'm kind of like in my self-hatred era, you know?

Are you?

Yeah.

Even though like I looked so good at the shows.

It's really amazing what four hours of hair and makeup will do to the confidence.

No, it's really crazy what like four hours later can do.

Like Friday was so gorgeous.

Saturday was so ugly.

Yeah.

Even like Wednesday it was so ugly.

Thursday so gorgeous.

Like

anything can change on a dime.

But we also just increase the bar for like how what good looking looks.

Like we do our own hair and makeup all the time and even when we sleigh it it's not even comparable to sitting in glam knowing that I can be that beautiful makes days like today just a regular day when I didn't even have my makeup because it was all packed up it makes it hard I don't know sometimes I like my my own makeup face

so do I no but it never compares well I mean most of the time you would hope or else like

try try again no but like sometimes I get my glam and it makes me appreciate like how I do my own face but I know what you mean like sometimes I do my makeup and I can't believe I have to go home and take it off like it seriously feels like a crime against humanity.

It was really sad taking my makeup off.

Literally, I feel like one of those people who like to face his art at the museum.

Literally, you're writing, like, free Gaza on the Lincoln Memorial.

That's me taking off my falsies.

It's the travesty.

It's not artistry.

It's artistry.

Well, in addition to selling out the weekend and just being stars, we had an amazing family...

fun-filled, friendly weekend.

I also decided to skip House of the Dragon last night.

One, because I genuinely had no interest in watching it.

And two, I knew that you weren't able to.

You were editing Patreon.

Like we had things to do.

So I was fine to skip it.

Update, by the way.

So last night, I recorded a vlog last week that was always meant to be our fifth and final episode.

Was editing it yesterday and then uploaded it last night.

And the processing was just taking forever.

Plus my hotel Wi-Fi was no match.

So I uploaded it last night.

on YouTube, but it wasn't as high of quality as the one that's up this morning.

So now the garge video is up, but if you were like itching for something last night, the YouTube link was available.

And

what was I just going to say?

It was just like great Sunday night content.

And I wish it was up sooner, but it was being so slow.

Well, speaking of great Sunday night content, while you were, you know, slating away, I was enjoying a gorgeous evening of watching the Olympic trials.

It was track and field, and then, of course, women's gymnastics, which is like what everyone was watching.

It was so good.

Do you know, you know, it's always like a team of five.

Right, well, we have it is a story.

Oh, okay, so I'll save my thoughts.

I'll save my thoughts.

Just once again, loved watching people fulfill their dreams.

Yeah.

So there was also like really not an apparatus for me.

You watched House of the Dragon last night and that's, I wanted to like watch on my iPad, which like.

And I hate to be such a hater, but I just want to say like the viewing experience on Peacock like was less than enjoyable.

I just want, I want to put that out there.

Like I understand that it's, it's also on cable, so there are commercials.

So Peacock like doesn't have commercials.

So they just put up their logo and this like annoying, like the little dots that it was like a buffering symbol.

It was driving me crazy and they like couldn't get it together.

They would come back to the feed late.

I just want to say you have a lot like of you know coverage broadcasting coming up, Peacock.

Like, not everyone's watching the trials, but everyone will be watching the Olympics.

Like, do better, get your shit together.

Like, you have an actual IT department, so there's no excuse for you.

Yeah.

Just want to say, like, not to be a hater.

Okay.

Because, like, God bless the USA.

Of course.

But Peacock.

Well, it's kind of disrespectful to the country if you can't even get the footage on there.

You know, like, Simone Biles hasn't put in the work that she has put in just for you to like miss part of her routine because you were buffering.

And don't come for me.

Like, it wasn't my Wi-Fi.

I have the most premium Wi-Fi in all of Nueva, York City.

Okay.

i wasn't gonna come for your wifi nobody's like mine was fine maybe it was your well it wasn't it wasn't okay it's peacock i could see that like i stream all day every day not a problem i pay for the my maybe so many people were watching but still not an excuse like get your shit together you think a lot of people are watching now right imagine this is literally the trial imagine when it's the real thing Yeah.

So all's that to say, unacceptable.

Okay.

Well, we have great stories.

It was a big, busy weekend.

last weekend of June.

Can I ask you a question?

Because we had this experience together.

You and I had dinner together and your husband was just like talking about how Jerry Springer died.

And it was brand new information to me that Jerry Springer died.

I am sure we talked about it on the toast.

We did, right?

I'll search it.

I'll tell you the episode.

No, no, you don't have to.

I believe you.

I just wanted to like double.

Do you want to hear what you had to say?

It would literally be like you listening to another podcast for the first time because you have no clue.

Like if you would have asked me on Friday, like, what is Jerry Springer up to right now?

I'd say he's filming his show and living his life and being a Jewish king.

I seriously, and it's crazy to me that I sat here and talked about Jerry Springer dying.

I'm glad that I searched this because.

What, it was Passover or something?

It was an episode that I did with Olivia.

Oh, my God.

So maybe I didn't know that Jerry Springer died.

No, you probably knew, but like you didn't process it because you didn't have to talk about it on the toast, so it just came and went, just like in one ear, out the other.

Because you get your people news notifications.

Did you know that he had died?

I never got the opportunity to

question myself to know if he died because when they said it, it sounded familiar.

But, like,

if you had asked me what's Jerry Springer up to, I don't know if I would have said he died.

I 100% thought Zach was confusing him with like another old man.

Like, Jerry Springer wasn't even that old.

I podcasted with Olivia that day.

I wonder where I was.

What was it?

May 1st, 2023.

I think I was,

I did a remote episode with Trout.

Maybe.

I remember where I was.

It was like Sir Claj.

Oh.

Why weren't you there that day?

Totally.

I forget.

There was something.

There was something.

Also to say, rip to Jerry Seinfeld.

Oh my God.

What's his name?

Jerry Springer.

Not okay.

Jerry Seinfeld is very much alive.

Another Jewish king.

Just devastating.

I'm sorry that you're dealing with that.

I'm sort of processing this like in real time.

And I just want to say, I feel like I'm not the only person who didn't know Jerry Springer died.

Something must have been happening.

But like, didn't listen to Olivia's episode that day.

Something must have been happening in the culture, like that day or that week, where we were talking about something else.

Thankfully, I could tell you.

Because so many people on my Instagram were like, wait, I also had no idea that Jerry Springer died.

Like, there must have been a big story.

So that day, Jerry Springer died.

It was also the week of the White House correspondence dinner.

That's definitely not it.

Jada Pinkett Smith Red Table Talk was canceled.

Huge news, but not.

Monica from Cheer was sued.

No.

Super Mario's.

Excuse me?

Super what?

Super Mario Brothers.

Super Mario.

Super Mario.

Super Mario Brothers smashed the box office.

Well, I'm happy for Chris Pratt, but I don't think that was the gangbusters news.

Let me just do like the day before.

You were there that day.

And maybe you could tell us what was going on with you when you were talking about.

Or maybe I personally had a lot going on in my life and like couldn't really, I wasn't open to receiving the news.

Or maybe, just maybe, I was experiencing denial.

Well, the episode, oh no, this is from a month before.

It was Montessori's Revenge.

I thought maybe you experienced sickness.

No, maybe I was just like experiencing, you know, something in my own life, and I wasn't open to grieving.

And now I'm finally over the denial stage.

That happens.

Right.

But it's like...

What about this?

I offered you this a while ago, but you didn't want to accept it.

Like, whether Jerry Springer is alive or dead makes no bearing on your life.

Not because.

Because he's been dead for a year and didn't even know.

Yeah, okay.

So what if you just like

and you thought he was just doing his show, living his life, and that made you happy?

Like, what if you just scrap knowing that he's dead and just go on believing like Jerry's alive and well?

You know, that's interesting.

And now that we're talking a lot about Jerry, I am having a flashback to something I said either like in my personal life or when I came back to the show to talk about Jerry Springer.

Yeah, you went to his show.

Not only that, but I had such an amazing experience like with Jerry Seinfeld as a person.

I've been like in his office.

We have a photo together.

Jerry Seinfeld?

Oh my God.

Am I okay?

I'm sorry, Jerry Springer.

and he was such a mensch.

Like, and I now remembering having said this story, like, he gave up just like classic old Jewish grandpa vibes.

Like, I went into his office because I just went as a patron.

Me and my friends thought it would be funny to go to a taping and we were having fun, like, posing pictures.

And, like, some intern was like, girl, no job is here.

So, they brought me into the office.

And, like, he was so nice.

He said, I hope you never come on my show.

You seem like a nice girl.

And you fulfilled his wish.

His dying wish.

Jackie, Jerry, that's beautiful.

Why can't you say his name?

I don't know.

Maybe it's like a Freudian block.

Yeah.

No, I'm sorry, but like, what are the odds?

There's like two old famous Jewish men, Jerry S.

Jerry S.

Exactly.

And that, and now we've said it.

Okay, well, yes.

I also, the stories are great, like five interesting things.

I guess like, yeah.

There were some that were flex people.

Like, you know.

Oh my god, there's like drama.

There's no drama.

Like, four are undeniably I had to choose.

Of course.

And I guess the fifth one was the alternate.

And I think it's like totally fine.

But I guess someone could be like, why didn't you choose the fact that so-and-so?

So and so.

Well, speaking of alternates, that's a great segue into our first story.

Was it the Olympics?

No.

Oh.

Oh, I guess, I mean.

It doesn't have to be.

In no particular order to you guys, but in an order to me, because my number one is my number one swirly.

What did I do?

Olivia Goldman.

Oh.

We're like not being telepathic today.

I know.

There's like a glitch in this situation.

Because we're recording at a different time.

Oh yeah, you guys are probably going to be like quaking.

This episode's coming out so whirly.

And for me, like usually I have my first cup of coffee while I'm getting ready and then my second one on the show.

But because I don't have ice in my room, I haven't been drinking coffee.

Like this is my first cup of coffee and look how little I so I'm uncaffeinated.

That's why my brain's not working.

And to sort of circle back to an earlier point, we are survivors.

Like we will get through this and we make it look so easy, but like inside, we have no ice, okay?

I got I did my makeup without ice this morning.

I did my makeup without my makeup.

Everything was packed and we loaded up our car last night.

But I see that you've overcompensated with jewelry.

Okay, don't be a bitch.

And I'm saying it in an envious way.

Like your jewels are en fleece.

I don't like to pack jewelry.

So I wear everything on the travel day.

But how do you maneuver your luggage when you have all these like rings and and things on?

Oh, I have a mule.

His name is Ben and I do nothing.

Like that to me is the best part of being married and a luxury like I cashed in on from the day we started dating.

Like I have never, unless I'm traveling alone, carried my own bags through an airport.

When it comes to that, yeah, and like the zipping of the luggage and turning it over and wheeling it out, like Zach's on top of it.

When it comes to like get preparing, like I'm, I can do things in literally a third of the time that it takes Zach to do something.

Like I'm so lickety split.

Like my nails will be chipped today.

Like I have to do it myself yes no there's two parts of it yes of course like the weaponized incompetence like yes I could do it myself get out of the way on something done eventually ask your husband like if you want it done hastily quickly and it's already done in an orderly fashion do it yourself but when it comes to physical labor like that is for me where I draw the line But packing is physical labor.

But you're talking about like brute strength.

Lifting.

Brute strength.

Overhead bins.

Mm-hmm.

Walking through the airport like with a million bags.

No, that's really not going to be me.

So yes, I'm decked out in my jewels.

Wow.

Yeah.

No, I like it.

I wasn't saying it in a Sade way.

You know, whenever I wear a sweatsuit, I like put on a chunky necklace.

A chunky necklace.

That's a fun fact.

That's one of my favorite looks of yours, actually.

I just feel like, yeah, it's called balance.

Balance.

Yin and yang, like me and you.

Except today.

Except today.

We're bringing back to ice.

Sir, you could tell by our outfits that we're just not on the same page.

I love that.

Usually we're so simpatico, erotico.

I know.

But it's also blameless, this coffee.

And you know know what?

If we want, we could blame my husband.

I mean, I'm always looking to blame someone's husband.

Here's how we could do it.

Okay.

He was responsible for getting me coffee at some point this morning.

It arrived as I was walking out the door.

Like, I met him on the street with it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like, forget it.

He's like, no, I'm here.

Wait, also, you just reminded me of something.

Hold on.

Blaming our husbands.

I feel like we're that, you know, that meme of that guy on the whiteboard?

That's us finding a way to blame our husband.

No, no, no, no.

Literally.

But it's like,

it's not that hard.

It's not like, no, you're kind of making it seem like we're going out of our way to be bitches.

Like, we're actually not.

Like, I could have had this.

But you're a survivor.

Also, I have to say.

Also, he could have gotten me ice.

But he didn't.

But he didn't.

So I have a jug of coffee in my room, but no ice.

She's a survivor.

It's as they say, God gives his toughest battles to his strongest.

His strongest soldiers.

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Our first story: Olivia Coppo is a married woman.

Yes.

A gorgeous bride.

They got married in Rhode Island at Watch Hill this weekend.

They got married in a church ceremony.

Her

dress was still shining a banana.

The story is in vogue.

All very fashion.

So they sell it.

Anything less?

Every time someone's wedding comes out in vogue, I'm like, oh, it didn't occur to me, but like, duh, it's going to be in vogue.

Right.

No, but I will say, like, people who like do Vogue wedding features, like, doesn't necessarily mean like you'll get into vogue proper.

I feel like Vogue weddings has like a little bit of a lower bar.

Not for Libya Culpo, I'm saying, but like, yes, I know what you mean, because Vogue like has to feature people.

No, and it's like when I think when we were talking about her wedding all weekend, like I didn't even question, I didn't wonder, excited, just didn't think about Vogue, period.

But then I saw it was in Vogue, I'm like, oh, of course, Olivia Culpo's wedding's in Vogue.

There are so many elements to this wedding that make it fabulous.

Is it Vogue Weddings like on Instagram and then Vogue Magazine on Instagram is what you're saying?

Or?

Like, I'm talking about the two franchises separately.

Like, Vogue Weddings and Vogue Magazine.

Is Vogue Weddings an Instagram handle?

Yes.

And then this was in Vogue magazine?

Oh, I don't know.

Who did she collab post with?

I think it was Vogue Weddings.

Hold on.

Like, I'm almost a little bit more.

Yeah, I'm seeing Vogue weddings.

I didn't realize there was a difference.

Well, there were so many elements of this wedding shirt that made it like so interesting.

Like, obviously, Olivia Culpo herself is like this fashion queen.

She's very digital forward, so like Vogue weddings wanting to collab with her makes complete sense.

She also is like a reality star, and so many people are interested in her and her sister's family life.

And she's also Miss Universe, which like has this own cloud of like legitimacy and cosmopolitan, if you will.

Yeah.

Then there's the Christian of it all, who like in his own right is so famous.

And like, if you know football, like, you know, Christian McCaffrey, he's like the best at what he does.

He has like a $400 million contract.

So there's so many different parts of this that make it.

So A-list.

So A-list.

And then, of course, like her friends, his friends, all the 49ers being there, obsessed.

We haven't gotten any real footage from the ceremony yet.

And people were just starting to post like yesterday of the weekend.

And I think that's all probably forthcoming.

But we have her dress, which was so beautiful.

And I think a little surprising because it's very modest.

I think a lot of people like from what I've seen the feedback to the dress has been negative.

What?

I couldn't like it anymore.

I think, and the more I think about it, the more I like it.

Agreed.

And the more I hear her talk about it, the more I like it.

She said that she didn't want her dress to exude sexy whatsoever.

They both wanted to get married in a church.

That was really important to them.

And when she thinks back on the things that like Christian loves, what she wears, it's always something that's like really traditional and beautiful.

And it's like so sweet.

I've chilled.

Yeah.

And it's just like so nice.

Of course, people don't like it because it's nice and you guys are nasty.

Yeah, no.

And I think, like, you know, you look at this dress today.

You look at this dress tomorrow.

You look at this dress in 20 years from now.

It is so timeless.

Like, someone could have worn this dress seriously in the 1920s.

Someone could wear this dress to a royal wedding.

She looks like a princess.

Like, when we see portraits from not even just like Kate Middleton, but like, you know, there's a bunch of princes and princesses around the globe or like aristocrats.

Like, she looks like an aristocrat.

And the fact that she can wear anything and decided to go for like a Mortsnius, modest look, I have so much respect for it.

I love it so much.

And again, it makes sense.

Like in a church, you would wear something like not super sexy.

And then she has an after-party look that we saw one.

I think there's two other looks.

Yeah, there was the reception look.

It was more like, you know, fashiony and sexy.

But I love.

The reception look was very elegant.

And then the after party look was fashion-sexy and I love and fun.

And I loved that.

Totally.

But the dress itself, like,

I love.

The only thing that I think confused people was that she got married, like, the, they got married in the church, but the whole weekend took place at this beachfront hotel.

It's like a cottagey, Watch Hill, very.

It's giving, you know what it's giving?

Five keys.

Yes, exactly.

Hotel in Nantucket, even though it's Rhode Island, but it's New England as stated.

So like the dress itself isn't beachy and it isn't very on theme with like the actual reception, but the wedding took place and even the photos that were on Vogue wedding, it's in this like cathedral like.

Yeah, where, what's this place?

I don't know.

It looks like one of those like Rockefeller, Rhode Island homes.

Yes, it does.

Maybe that's where she got ready.

So it totally works.

I love it.

I think it's so gorgeous.

And like, that's what a wedding is about.

It's about like faith and family.

And it's not about like having your tits out.

No, it's so true.

And when she was talking about marriage in general with Vogue, she said that a marriage is a covenant.

It's the beginning of the rest of your life and it's the union and bond of two people forever.

She wanted a dress that felt as serious as that commitment.

And I feel like people forget that she's like a pretty traditional girl.

If you watch the amazing show, The Copo Sisters, which you should watch, their parents are still married.

They have like an amazing marriage.

And she also said in the show, like her and Christian like rely a lot on prayer when they're like fighting or whatever.

Like that's something that's like the bedrock of their relationship.

And so obviously it makes sense that they got married in the church and that like those traditional values.

traditional values are important to her.

And I thought that was so nice.

And I love like not veering from that just because maybe it's not like the Instagram.

No, I totally agree.

Like I love.

Yourself is the coolest.

I loved every element of this.

And I need people to like open up and start posting more because like it really wasn't, it wasn't giving me enough.

So, what's the embargo, do you think?

I think there's probably a full vogue feature, like from everything inside, but like, there's always like a little bit of a window because you need the photos edited, like, and they have a schedule of, like, oh, no, we have to do this person's wedding.

Olivia Coppo definitely takes priority, so she probably gets, I think it'll be out this week.

Okay, because this is like a wedding with a lot of intrigue.

There was like one paparazzi photo of them walking that looks like them leaving the church.

Yeah, no, I think there's no way.

I love these two, me too.

And then all of our 49ers friends were there.

The kiddles, the use checks like obsessed yeah i'm excited to see more i'm happy that she's married that they're married and i wish them well me too a long happy marriage and in terms of other celebs who were there it wasn't like crazy

i haven't i only really saw from claire and kristen yeah no i saw like people on everyone on tick tock was just like like eating it up like gagged and so there was like her you know sports illustrated girlies her model squad devin windsor as predicted um but there wasn't like crazy like A-list, like, and it was nice.

It was like really like they're people who they're close with.

And did Aurora bring Paul?

No, I didn't see.

Darn.

Yeah.

Darn.

Okay.

Well, very happy for them.

Oh, my God.

I remember what I was going to say.

I remember like 20 minutes ago, I couldn't remember.

It's so uninteresting.

I'm not going to bore you with it, but I just want everyone to know that I remember.

I want you to tell us.

We were talking about recording earlier, and I was like, you know what's nice?

Because by the time, with our usual recording time, by the time the episode ends, it's like almost lunchtime, and I am ravenous to the point where I can't think of anything else.

Sometimes I wrap the show early because I'm like, if if I don't get food in my belly, I'll kill someone.

I'm not that hungry.

I'm having the opposite experience.

I haven't eaten a thing, but I also ate a lot this weekend because, you know, post-beacon, like celebration,

fill her up.

So I don't even know what I would have eaten already.

And I'm just hungry.

Maybe because I ate so much this weekend.

My body's like, hey, yeah, where's more?

Hey, keep going.

What's going on?

Hey, where's the hungry?

I feel like I might regret saying I'm not hungry.

Like, I'm just sort of jinxing myself.

But at this very moment, like, I'm okay.

I feel hungrier than ever.

Damn.

She's a survivor.

Are you ready for our next story, which is the other big American news of the weekend?

America, yeah.

Fuck yeah.

Simone Biles making history by qualifying for Paris Olympics.

She's the oldest female to compete.

in like as a gymnast since i think the 1950s which is insane because she's 27.

oh i would have thought the history was that she's going to three olympic seas oh is that a record when i was watching last night, they interviewed her and they were like, No, no, no, you're old.

I just like made that up.

I just assumed.

No, they asked her, like, you are the oldest gymnast to compete in women's gymnastics since the 1950s.

Like, how does that make you feel?

And she was like, it's like funny.

I'm 27.

That is.

And not only is she like competing, she came in first in the trials.

Like, she was pretty much the only one who was a guaranteed choice.

And the women's team has four returning veterans.

So when I saw, I missed the trials last night, so I feel like really left out.

You know, and it was amazing.

I i feel super left out and like i'm not a part of something i feel maybe like i'm not even a citizen like should you even watch the olympics just like do i watch it back i just like out of the five girls who made the team four of them were at the last

i feel like i'm jordan proud on the outside looking in yeah or or um ben platt

on the outside always looking in

but I was happy as an outsider.

I was happy to see, I recognize most of the name save all the girlies from last time.

No, Suni Suni Lee has my heart.

She's for the Jade Jordan.

I think she's one of either three or four sisters, and they kept panning to them.

They were like filming themselves, filming Suny.

They're just like their swirly energy.

I love the Lee family.

I, and she's so good too.

Um, and she had a serious injury that, you know, took a lot of rehabilitation.

I don't know if she thought she was going to make it.

So

that was fabulous.

Of course, girly Simone dancing to her floor routine, ready for it.

How was that?

So good.

And so she's back.

She's fully back.

And she was at, she was asked about it.

They were like, she's better than she was two Olympics ago.

Yes.

She said going into that Olympics, like I literally knew, like, I couldn't tell you what was wrong, but I knew I was going to do something was going to happen.

Like, I just knew it wasn't going to work.

And

she said she's obviously been working on like her gymnastics in the year since, but she does therapy every Thursday.

I think she's also really happy in her personal life.

Like she's married.

I think obviously there's been like a lot of drama about her husband that like, you know, we all kind of giggle at.

But I think when I, when I was watching her being interviewed by that guy, she seems like somebody who's really stable, really happy, and just like, I don't know, I'm not worried about her.

I'm so glad.

It's all good.

I'm so glad.

And that's like crazy that she's still number one.

And she's technically the only one.

What was her goat then?

Because the last Olympics, like, and so they asked, like, do you know Taylor?

Like, what, yada, yada?

Like, did you hear from Taylor?

Because Taylor replied to a tweet of the floor routine being like, oh my god, I'm freaking out.

And Simone was very, very cool, girl.

You know, she was like, you know, I think my team talks to her team, and I've met her a few times.

So, like, yeah, she's really cool.

I'm sure they'll be like on the era stage after they see.

Yes.

Oh, my God.

I would love that.

And I'm happy for the fact that four of the girls are veterans too, because their last Olympics was a little overshadowed by a lot of things.

It was also like COVID and weird.

And their families weren't there.

Remember that?

And now they're getting the proper Olympics that they deserve.

Sans AC.

And the good.

But still.

The other good thing about them being veterans is that a lot of the other girls, all the girls who competed were amazing.

Some of them were like 16.

Well, the fifth girl who's not the veteran is 16.

There were a bunch of other girls who were 16, so like they will have another chance.

Because when you're

16, yes, they'll have another chance.

They'll have maybe two chances.

So I wasn't sad for them and like that sad.

And there were two other alternates.

One of them I was really rooting for.

She was so little and blonde, and she was so cute.

She reminded me a lot of Sean Johnson.

She kind of looked like her too.

I think her name is Jocelyn, yeah.

Jocelyn Robertson.

She's an alternate.

Yeah, she's an alternate.

She was so cute.

They were all like amazing.

And

gymnastics is like one sport, like we've got on lock.

You know, they were explaining really who the big

competition for Simone is.

And it's this girl from Brazil.

And her and Simone competed at the Last Worlds last year.

And they're both just like the goats.

Okay.

So we have a lot of people.

But she had another Olympics.

I don't know.

And also, it's like if she was at the last Olympics, she probably swept because Simone wasn't wasn't was per taking your time yeah i don't know but all eyes on brazil okay well i'm excited i you know need to wiggle my way in it's the greatest time of year and then track and field was obviously on before oh okay i did reg on on peacock but nbc is doing this thing um where they're like pairing celebrities with olympians to like tell their stories and there was like all these different commercials kiki palmer is like kind of of the celebrity spokesperson for Sha'Cari Richardson.

And I was just like loving it.

Marishka Hargate is the spokesperson for Katie Ledecki.

Okay.

They had John Legend for somebody whom I can't remember,

whatever.

I liked it.

I'm open, though not convinced.

No, but I liked the pairings.

Like the concept is whatever.

It's all about the pairings.

Yeah.

And just hearing like Kiki Palmer like hype up Shaqari, like it was everything.

And then Marishka Hargate, because Katie Ledecki is on the verge of having more Olympic medals than any Olympian in history if she does what everyone thinks she's going to do.

So it's kind of serious.

And having, you know, a storyteller like Marischka be her spokesperson, I loved.

Okay, I like, because so far you're citing like two good people who I'm happy to have more of.

But I just feel like in general, like these athletes are so accomplished and they're finally going to experience celebrity for the actual like hard work and talent that they have when like celebrities experience like fame and fortune for all the time for not much for not much

and to make it about the celebrities again when we have like real talent in the room, like take a seat.

That's actually an amazing analysis of the situation.

Maybe you have to watch it just to feel the specialness.

Yeah.

But I actually don't disagree with you.

It's their time.

And it's like literally never their time except once every four years.

Right.

And they're working so hard.

Track and Field was on before, too.

Really exciting stuff.

We've kind of got it.

We've got it on lock, you know?

So we're back.

We are so back.

And men's gymnastics?

They were in the facility last night.

They kept panning to them.

I don't know if they were competing.

It's like crazy how nobody cares, myself included.

And it's like even when women's gymnastics, I feel so bad for the other gymnasts from last cycle because like

what even happened?

Nobody knows.

But it's like even when the women's gymnastics like wasn't happening last year, we still didn't look to the men.

No, but I actually do think, I know you see it one way, but I think for someone like Suni Lee, who's amazing, but she kind of is like always second to Simone, Simone going through what she was going through, like kind of opened up the space for Suni to like win medals she might not have won.

Yeah.

She won a silver all-around individual.

Individual all-around.

I don't know.

Or like on one.

I think on one.

It's so crazy how I think she's like beam.

It's crazy how everybody's worst, even Simone, everybody's worst score is beam.

I hate the beam.

Like I watch it and my butthole is like clenched.

It's just, it's so unnatural and I don't like it.

So what's your favorite floor?

Oh my god.

It pops off.

Floor is really good, but seriously, justice for the uneven bars like it's really sick yeah but there's no music it's true it's true and i i do love to see how people put their personality into their music of course allie raiseman dancing to have an aguila always comes to mind on a world stage um and yes i do i like to see what people because it's like you have to be super rigid and like you can't really like you know very stick it you can't show your bra strap right and you can't like do a dance so the one place you can really put your personality and on who you are is into your music choice and I love that.

Yeah.

Well, congrats.

And I think what Simone is is saying with her music choice is like

don't count out the countess you know she should have been dancing to chicse levy yeah no but ready for it it's got the boom you could hit a tumble tumble yeah cartwheel it's really like the perfect yeah it's i like the beat i like the beat speaking of the beat of ready for it taylor swift beams when she sees travis kelsey appear to surprise appears he appears to surprise her well he we don't know for sure we're all just like guessing he appeared at her dublin concert and it also appears as though she was surprised by his appearance.

Yeah.

Because he showed up like in the middle.

She was doing August, which is like more than halfway through the show.

She looks to her VIP tent, probably just like wave to some peeps, and she sees Travi.

I'm so happy.

Travi made it to the big show.

I love that song.

What's it called?

What is the AI title?

It doesn't have a title.

It's just like AI's version.

Can you play it?

Yeah.

So if you guys...

I did see it like got taken down because it's like, I don't know, hold on.

It's too good.

If you guys don't know, because you don't have a sister who's like showing you TikTok stuff, AI created a Taylor Swift song before.

Before TTPD, we were like, if we ever got a Travis song, somebody had it made via audio.

It would have to be sound like.

And AI made a song, and it's so good.

But if you play like you ain't worthy,

you can call me Mrs.

Taylor.

You can call me Mrs.

Taylor, Purdy.

Literally one of the best songs I've ever heard.

So good.

And what's so amazing about that is that there's no copyright.

Oh, I don't know who owns it.

He plays AI music all day long.

Doesn't GBT own it?

Cheapy T?

And also, how do I make a song?

Like, can I say AI, make me a collaboration between Gavin DeGra and Kelly Clarkson?

I feel as though you have often like asked me for tactical.

By the way, when I say that, I'm asking the question.

Okay, because I don't know.

Like, I actually don't fuck with AI, not in like a moral superiority way.

Like, I just don't know how to use it.

And I'm too lazy.

And I feel like I only use chat GPT and maybe because I don't pay enough, but I don't get the results I'm looking for.

Same.

And one time somebody made me like a AI-generated photo of Roman of Theo in heaven.

And like, that was all I needed.

Like, I AI'd too close to the sun.

I don't ever need to see anything AI-generated ever again.

Yeah.

Is there like one AI program that's 360?

I've seen like otter AI, but that's like for workflow.

No.

No, if you're just like a dumb girly who like needs girly things made.

I like to make fake photos, like where I give it like when I wanted to make my sandwich drawer concept because Ben wasn't seeing my vision, I plugged into AI what I'm thinking and they gave me something, but it had to go to like a photo generation AI.

Sound off in the comments, like, is there one that does both?

All of them.

I also want mute.

Like I want to make my own collab songs.

Right.

How did the person do that?

How did the person do that?

And I've often heard like there's this viral sound where Taylor Swift's song, I hate it here, so I will go to, they have Olivia Rodrigo's voice singing it and like it went viral because it actually sounds really good.

How?

Where?

What program?

What program?

Thank you.

What was the story?

Oh, her story.

So much actually that came out of Dublin

because there were a couple of celebrities there that, like, classic Dublin people.

But then, really surprisingly, like, Julia Roberts happened to be in Dublin.

I saw Julia Roberts.

Who's classic Dublin people?

Like, one of the girls from Bridgerton, like, one of the younger sisters who barely speaks.

She's like Irish.

So, you know, I was really hoping for like an Eye of Horror an appearance.

But just just every time we talk about Irish people.

No, I know.

I always ask I confuse it with Scotland.

And it's not cool.

Because the Irish are proud people.

And I, I'm sorry.

So.

So I'm just like, we're in like actually really scary waters.

Yeah, well, here, I'll say this.

I hope Taylor was able to see the Dublin portal.

Like

I saw, now being in the city, I saw a sign for the Dublin Portal.

You did?

But I haven't seen anything.

I'm like, I don't think I was at the portal because I wasn't porting.

And also, isn't it over there?

I think it's in Times Square.

I wasn't in Times Square, but I wasn't, like, that far.

Well, the Julia Roberts thing, like, that there's a video of them going viral.

People were just filming inside the tent, and they got Travis saying hi to Julia Roberts on camera.

And she gives you, like, a very warm hello.

Like, yeah, like, lots of touching, like, lots of shoulder rubbing.

And it's just like, it was, it was a, she's obviously a person who's into physical touch.

I don't think there was.

anything nefarious about it.

But it's Jew Barrymore coding.

Yes, yes.

It was very bizarre.

Like, I don't think she has ill intentions.

I don't think Taylor saw that and was like, get away from my man.

But I actually, and she's just like this older sort of maternal spirit.

She's giving like older auntie.

Yeah, but it was weird.

Yeah, but not in a nefarious way.

But like, I just feel like just because she's Julia Roberts doesn't mean she's not prone to like human behaviors of being like, you know, overly personal.

You saying it being Drew Barryborg coded is the perfect description of it because it's not sexual.

It's not romantic.

It's familial.

It's like deeply interested in the person she's talking to, wanting to show that with her hands.

Yeah, it was sweet.

And her lack of personal space.

And then the video of Taylor appearing to be surprised by Travis shook everyone because he was with her all weekend for

Wembley.

Then he went home.

Wembley.

I couldn't say it.

Wembley.

You didn't know if he went to London or Wembley.

Yeah, right.

Lembley.

He went home.

He had a teammate's wedding.

Right.

And she had to keep going on.

He was dancing.

And it appears as though right after the wedding, you know, if my calculations are correct, it's a 10-hour flight.

He made it just in time for the middle of the show she appeared to not know or or she knew he was coming she didn't know exactly when and he finally made it and she was excited like either way both outcomes so i actually like the second one better because i don't like surprises like she probably was doing the whole show being like my travi's not coming i don't know how you can like be in such a committed relationship with someone and like not know where they are for 10 hours like i guess on a private chat like you have premium wi-fi so you can keep texting but like face time i think she knew he was coming to see her there because also you have to like make arrangements but didn't think he was gonna make it for the the show.

And the fact that he made it for some of it, like Travi made it to the big show.

Now, in a situation like that, is he flying Air Force Tay?

Is he chartering his own flight?

I feel like he's probably chartering his own flight because her planes need to be with her when she's abroad.

She has the spare.

She does have the spare.

She has the air and the spare.

Can the spare go internationally 10 hours?

That's like not every private jet can do that without like stopping to refuel.

10 hours, I think

the good ones can.

It doesn't have to be.

I think her little one is for regional stuff.

No, I don't think it's that little.

I don't think it can make it to Dublin in one foul swoop.

Like, I don't think it can make it to Australia.

I don't think any private jet can make it to Australia, actually, without stopping to refuel.

Unless you have, like, Drake's plane, which is a commercial flight.

No, but, like, I think, like, a Gulf sh can

a private jet, well, I can't say go to Australia.

From where?

High.

New York to Australia.

New York to Australia.

Like, what's the longest commercial flight, New York to Singapore, right?

Oh, Blade.

It's trying to get me to go to Australia.

They've got great SEO at Blade.

This isn't working.

This is just like people want me to charter.

Soon I'll be on my way to Australia if I don't X out.

Well, there could be worse things.

Well, I have better plans.

It's so true.

That would be terrible if I found myself going to Australia when I'm supposed to be going to the Hamptons.

I couldn't.

So true, you wouldn't be back for like a whole week because you have to take a break between a flight that long so you don't get a blood clot.

Oh my gosh.

It's not like you could just get on a flight and return home.

Like you could get really sick.

You have to spend like at least 24 or 48 hours on land.

And you can't just like walk on the plane.

No.

And actually, I know someone who got a blood clot like from too much travel.

It's not Brian Kelly.

I think it's like a myth.

No, it's very real and it's a huge problem.

Like,

it's not worth it.

So turn the iPad off.

Take it away.

I'll take it next out.

I'll delete my history.

Stevie Nix was also at the Dublin shows.

Bono sent a letter.

Bono sent a letter.

And Stevie Nix had a huge influence on the surprise songs, You're On Your Own Own Kid, which

Yo-Yoke.

Yo-Yoke, which Stevie Nix has spoken about publicly many times.

That it's like a song that she just absolutely loves.

She thinks it's like the most amazingly written song.

It helped her through the loss of her friend.

Like it's this deeply personal song.

So I think a lot of people could have guessed that and could have guessed Clara Bow, which is a song that mentions Stevie Nix on Taylor's new album, TTPD.

And where is Clara Bow?

The real Clara Bow.

Stevie Nix.

The real Claribo is a real person, right?

No, it's a statue.

She's an American actress who rose to stardom during the 1920s.

I feel like she could be Irish.

She was born in Brooklyn, but

a lot of people say

Ireland of New York.

Right, but a lot of people came to Brooklyn from Ireland, like in that movie, Brooklyn.

Right, right.

Sarsha.

She was born in Prospect Heights.

Dublin.

Brooklyn.

But her parents,

her mother did not want to be a bad person.

No, I think Clara Beau's selection selection really only had to do with the fact that Stevie Next was in attendance.

I love you searching for deeper meaning, though.

Beau's parents were descended from English and Scots-Irish immigrants who had come to America the generation before.

I still don't think that had any bearing on the song choice, like for real.

But I think it just like makes it even all the more apt.

I do wonder why Niall Horn wasn't there.

Like, he's such a big Taylor fan.

I feel like we would get a swirly biography about Clara Bow.

I would love that.

I wonder if anyone's working on one.

Allison Pataki.

And Taylor will write the original song for the eventual movie adaptation.

And honestly, if no one's working on it, like some historical fiction writer, like her editor's about to drop her and like she's having a hard time, like Claribo.

Yeah.

That sounds like a movie, actually.

Your editor's about to drop you and you fall into this like spiral where you learn about Claribo and this life and you like find yourself daydreaming about Claribo all the time.

She appeared in 46 silent films and 11 talkies.

I love that.

Not the talkies.

The talkies.

Claribo, I love her.

You.

I actually like that song too.

So

that's great.

Our next story, our fourth story.

Our fourth story?

Our fourth.

Is it our fourth that's brought to you by Byhart, Infant Formula?

It is.

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I like their product, and I like their message.

So, By Heart, if this is your first episode of The Toast, welcome.

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So Byhart is an infant nutrition company built from the ground up to deliver real innovation on behalf of babies and parents.

Their mission is simple, make the best formula in the world.

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They use organic

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So to know that a formula uses organic whole milk, grass-fed whole milk is a major key.

And they like to promote never skimming when it comes to mamas, when it comes to babies.

Of course, we never skim when it comes to our babies because like really who could?

But I do feel like sometimes I skim on me.

Well, of course, if you're putting everything into your babies, like getting them the best of the best, when it comes time for you, like you're eating fast food in the back of your car crying.

Right.

Or eating whatever scraps that they didn't eat, you know, the crust off their strandberries.

Yeah, like I saw a TikTok once that I sent to you and it was like all these mamas were like laughing.

It's like when you think about what you do for your kids, like the best of the best, whole whole milk, grass-fed, and it comes time for you, like you're actually eating off the floor.

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But Bihart does not endorse that message.

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So, the ways in which I never skim, which when it comes to my children, I mean, where do I begin?

Yeah.

Never skimming on ingredients, never on cookware.

I switched to all like non-toxic cookware.

Whereas before, who knows what was in my cookware?

And I guess I've benefited from that as well.

Never skimming my bread.

Mama learned how to make bread, so for the whole family's gut health.

Your cleaning supplies?

My cleaning supplies are all non-toxic, clean, efficient, however.

And it's really made me think about how I should never skim or skim less on me.

So taking time for meself, I got a couple of girly swirly services while I was here.

Mom's got a shine too.

She got a Manny.

She's got to get her shine on.

She got a blowout.

And you know what it also is making me think of, like, I feel like sometimes with me, Redheads is like not always my priority.

My book club.

And it's, it's a book club.

Like, yes, we do a podcast, but like.

It's a passion.

It's a passion of mine.

And I never skim on that Redheads book.

And it's these days the only book of the month that I read, but I'm not skimming there.

Yeah, I love that.

Not spark noting it, I'm taking the time, I'm reading it.

No, it's enriching the mind, the body, and the soul so that you can then give that enrichment to your children.

Right.

So, whatever ways you feel your best, it's important to not skim when it comes to yourself.

And By Heart is really promoting that and reminding us of that.

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So, By Heart's thing is that they use grass-fed, organic whole milk.

Yes.

Can you explain, like, why that's different?

Like,

to a lay person,

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What's grass-fed?

So, the cows that the dairy product is coming from, they eat grass.

They're raised on grass, which is more natural for cows to eat.

Like, they go out to pasture.

Right.

If you think of a cow out

yonder, like, they eat grass.

Other cows that are not grass-fed, they eat grain, which is not as good for them.

So, you want your cow to be its best, the cow that you're getting your dairy from, that your child's getting their dairy from.

So grass-fed cows are happier cows.

And then when you are drinking grass-fed, the benefits are what, like digestion?

Yeah, and it's just, it's overall better milk product.

It came from a better, happier, better source.

Cow, yeah.

And I hear that they skim on healthy fats.

They use only organic.

They don't skim on health.

They don't skim, excuse me.

That's the thing.

It's like never skim,

you know, metaphysically, but also it's literally never skim milk.

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So as an auntie, like what are some ways that you never skim?

Oh my God.

You have to treat your kids.

You know, my love language is physical touch.

So when it comes to the kids, like, I'm never skimming on those kisses.

Like, you're leaving one more.

Like, to me, because that fills my cup.

My cup is runneth over.

And everybody knows I'm like the auntie who's going in for the kisses.

Yeah.

And then when it comes to myself, I mean, I think we all know.

I really don't.

I don't deny myself much.

But like a run, you know, you got to get that time in return.

You had a busy weekend.

And I feel like you could have fallen prey to like some mamas who just, they don't make the time for themselves.

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Our next story, Chloe Kardashian celebrated her 40th birthday with a large party that I only now just understood the theme of.

Dollywood.

Dollywood.

So what did you think it was?

I don't, I was so confused because I saw it was like very Western, ho-downy.

They had like cacti and Western elements.

And then it said Chloe Wood.

And I was at a loss.

So I will say, when I first saw the sign for Chloe Wood, the sign looked so similar to a Raising Canes sign.

I thought she had a Raising Canes themed party, which is like hilarious.

I would have like a chicken tender-themed party.

And then the more I saw, I understood that immediately that it was Dolly Wood.

I didn't understand until I wanted to pick a story about Chloe's party, and the headline said that she had a Dolly Parton inspired Bash.

And I was like, die.

Yeah.

And all the usual suspects were there.

It was very Kardashian, coded with a K.

Khloe is like the best.

I didn't know that she was like a country swirly, you know?

And I don't know if she chose the theme because country is very hot right now.

You know, everyone's sort of getting into country or because like Dolly and denim and country vibes are very much of interest to her.

I think both.

I don't think you could have a country birthday if you don't like care about country at all.

But like she'd a country party and soup dog performed because that's really her genre of music.

Do you know what I mean?

That's true.

I feel like she was just doing it for the vibes.

Okay.

For the clout.

I I mean, that's fun too.

Yeah.

But it's more fun when you like country music.

Of course, because if you were really into country music and you had a Dolly Wood-themed party, you would either have like a Dolly impersonator come, you would have Luke Homes perform.

Yeah, you would have a country music artist

perform.

Just saying.

But it looked really fun.

I feel like we haven't seen everyone together in a really long time.

Loves the outfits.

Chloe had a really good night.

I didn't see Kylie there.

Oh, she was there.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, she was doing her thing with her friends.

Okay, because I saw mostly Kim and Chloe.

No, Kylie was there.

I didn't see Kendall and Courtney, but I didn't see everything yet.

Maybe neither.

Like I was just consuming content that came to me.

I didn't actively seek out.

Right.

Content.

Me too.

But it did look like a swirly affair.

Check.

Chloe's 40.

Chloe's 40.

You know, like, that's, I feel like.

I said it put together that.

That's why she had such a big party because she's 40.

Because she's 40.

I feel like they were probably filming for the show because this is like a perfect storyline, like them pushing Chloe to have a big party.

I did see

not feeling it.

Oh, good.

I mean, I could literally see the episode writing itself.

I also am very behind on on kardashians that's something we could watch together yes um should we make a list of like for this trip we always make lists of things to watch okay

i have my like overall you know thanksgiving we're sitting down to the tv what should we turn on like i have that but that's not what this is because it's like gonna be a lot of me and you time okay so

i'm gonna put it on the same note

okay

but it will be in a new category of handle i'm just like in this phase in my life where like it's the summer i don't want to be sitting inside watching tv like i want to swim I want to go outside.

Like

I need to be tan or I will seriously, I'll jump off a bridge.

I also need to start going to sleep earlier.

I just feel like that's not going to happen when we're together.

No, no, no.

I would love to get into like a really healthy routine this summer where we're going to bed early, waking up early.

Like I love that.

Yes.

We have more sunlight with the summer.

Like the second the sun's down, like let's go to sleep.

I agree.

Okay.

Summer resolution.

Summer resolution is like spend as much time outside in the daylight.

But can I tell you what I've been wanting to watch?

I don't know when I will get around to it.

Perfect Match.

I've heard this season is so good.

Oh, Netflix show.

I want to watch.

And Love Island USA.

Family Affair.

Oh, that's easy.

Yeah.

But Perfect Match, this season I've heard is so good.

And I kind of want to watch it more than Love Island because I already know some of the players.

Jess,

a lot of the girls from Harry Jowsey, Melinda.

I love Melinda.

I really want to watch that.

And I've heard it's so good.

And like, you know, I love trash reality TV.

Like, I'm going to love it.

You do it.

I love the, I actually, I've never really watched one of those all-star shows, but I should.

You should.

Absolutely.

So maybe that.

But like you said, we're not, maybe if it's like a rainy week.

Yeah.

Hurricane season, you know.

Yeah.

And I think my husband would actually like that too because he loves Love is Blind.

That's his favorite show.

Yeah.

Ben loves it too.

That's so funny.

It's so funny.

Love is Blind, like, really brings people together.

But back to Chloe.

Back to Chloe.

The girls looked great.

Like, I loved the full commitment to the denim outfits.

That was obviously like the theme, like telling everyone to show up in denim.

It looked so much fun.

Like, you know, they like literally build sets for their parties.

I don't know where they, I literally, it feels like they have them on a lot.

Yeah, I think sometimes they do.

Right.

And like, Kim has like this big office space.

It's like a warehouse that's just empty for like photo shoots.

And I think they literally build sets for their parties.

It's sick.

I guess I'm just now really sort of internalizing that Chloe's turning 40.

Yeah.

The funny thing about the girls is like we've known them forever, like since we were in high school, and we've always felt like so, so related to them because they're sisters, whatever.

But they've always been like significantly older than us.

And it's really crazy how Kim's 40.

Well, more.

Right.

No, Kim turned 40, Chloe turned 40, and Courtney turned 40.

Like they're all over 40.

Yes.

But they really are like at the helm of all things like culture and beauty.

And beauty.

It's actually really impressive.

Yeah.

They don't look 40, but.

Courtney's 45.

I feel like Courtney's gone to a place where she really embraces her age and she like doesn't want to not look 45.

But like when I think of a 45-year-old, she's five years away from 50.

And like, that's not.

that.

I like they seem no, it's actually, I think, a testament to like Poosh and her wellness because I think she's really,

I don't think she does anything anymore in terms of like, you know, Botox filler.

I think she does, of course, like skincare and stuff, but I think she's like somebody who looks really, really amazing at 45.

She doesn't not look 45.

But it's also like, they just don't seem in their 40s.

Because they're throwing parties like this with Snoop Dogg.

Yeah, and I guess like their kids are not so much older.

I don't know.

But it's interesting.

It's great for women.

I agree.

Because they're the beauty standard and they're actually older than you would think for the beauty standard.

I always find myself constantly being reminded that they are in their 40s.

Yeah.

And like every year that they get older, but like it hasn't changed that like they

are the standard.

I think it's good for women.

Yeah.

I mean, it's complicated for women because they also don't look how most people look when they turn 40.

Right, but you think like when you turn 40 or you're 45, like your life is set out to pasture, but like that's so not the case.

That's definitely true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you ready for a fifth and final story?

Not really, because at the beginning of the show, you kind of like shit on it.

You're like, Do I actually swap?

You know what?

Should I do like two fifth and final stories?

Because I swapped

it.

I think that this is what more people are talking about, and I'm actually happier to talk about it.

You made a decision.

I swapped it.

You have to live with it.

I'm living with the swap.

I'm ready.

Paul Mescow and Gracie Abrams were seen out together in London.

I'm glad we're talking about this.

This means a lot to a lot of people.

Personally, I'm not one of those people.

However, I get it.

I see it.

You respect it.

I respect it.

And

Gracie Abrams is very much in this sort of

genre for the girlies who like Phoebe Bridgers, which is also weird because she dated Paul Mezcow.

I think they were actually engaged at one point.

She's very

a certain type of aesthetic.

That's not my aesthetic.

Is Phoebe Bridgers still dating Bo Burnham?

I think this guy

was Netflix.

Yeah, Inside by Bo Burnham.

He's a comedian.

Yes.

I think he is.

I think they are still dating.

Yeah, this is like a group of people that like they could just like keep like

moving circles.

Like to me,

they're like the indie equivalent of like Kaya Gerber, Jacob Awadi, Austin Butler.

That's an amazing comparison.

For people who are sad, you know?

Yeah.

And serious.

Yeah.

I guess he's not dating Natalie Portman.

They were just smoking cigarettes together.

I guess not.

However, I think Gracie Abrams and Natalie Portman are of the similar Elk.

So, Jackie, they're literally 20 years apart, like an age.

Elk.

Elk is timeless.

Okay.

So, like, maybe that was their last date, Natalie.

Yeah.

Maybe they were breaking up over cigarettes.

Yeah.

I happen to really like this, even though, again, it personally means nothing to me.

I saw normal people.

I love Paul Mezcal.

I think he's extremely handsome.

And it's always interesting who handsome people seek out.

And Gracie Abrams is kind of having a moment, you know?

Yes, exactly.

She's having a moment musically.

She's having a moment with Taylor Swift.

It's very exciting.

And

her dad lost his, you know, really successful.

She is really being very meticulous and smart.

I feel like she's actually competing right now with Sabrina Carpenter.

They're both dropping these like big debut albums, even though like they both released music before.

Sorry, they're not debut albums.

I'm sorry.

But it's like the most famous they've been while releasing music.

And they're being very smart, very meticulous about how they're dropping music.

And they're both connected to Taylor Swift.

They both opened for Taylor Swift.

They both, well, Sabrina doesn't have music with Taylor Swift, but I do feel like that's on the horizon.

And they're both these young women who are having top chart topping hits.

Yeah.

I don't compare, I mean, I don't think about it, but when I think of their elk, I don't think of them as the same because like.

Their genres.

I think Sabrina Carpenter are for people who are happy and Gracie Abrams are for people who are like serious and sad.

Got it.

Well, I just want to say a couple things about J.J.

Abrams.

Please, he directed also Star Wars.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know, but like he's lost.

Yeah, um, and now I'm going to tell you something that's kind of going to change the tenor of this entire conversation.

What he directed Morning Glory,

you're fucking lying.

No, it's right here, plain as day.

So, we better put some fucking respect on his name, Jackie.

I knew he had talent.

Oh my God.

What else has he directed?

Hold on.

So when I go to his

Google Decks, his, no, Google now does a better job of IMDb.

I feel like did he do Freaks and Geeks?

Morgan.

Oh, he's also a composer.

So I think maybe he composed Morning Glory because he's not the director.

Oh, okay, okay.

But he worked on the movie.

And I think his big break.

He produced Morning Glory.

Beautiful.

beautiful I believe his big break was freaks and geeks do you remember that show yes I think that was him early career I don't think it was no that was Jed Apato thank you I get them confused with the J I don't because I don't see JJ as doing comedy I also didn't realize he was like young but I guess yeah his daughter's young so yeah he's not that old

He went to Sarah Lawrence.

I thought that's for girls.

Girls.

That's literally for girls.

Wait, I'm cracking.

It's originally a women's college.

It became co-educational in 1968.

But I still don't think men should go.

Leave it for the girls.

Are you for real?

There's not enough male first colleges.

Not only that, but like for your like, ew.

Like, get out.

Ick.

What are you, a girl?

Like, seriously, fuck off that.

That's icky.

When I think of Sarah Lawrence, I think of girls like in the 1950s who were going to college for the first time.

Of course, but even now when I think of Sarah Lawrence, like I think.

Oh, I think of the notebook.

She went to Sarah Lawrence.

You do?

Right?

No, no, no.

We're just saying she didn't go there.

I'm saying that's not what I think of.

I just like think of a bunch of girls.

Yeah.

Like, and they probably have like, you know, canvas tote bags.

No, no, it's for girls.

Yeah.

Like his daughter looks like she goes to school.

Yes.

And even though like now in real life, like technically, if you have a penis, like you can go, that doesn't mean you should.

Agreed.

I want to know like where he applied early decision.

Was it Sarah Lawrence?

Was this his first choice?

Because then there's something seriously, deeply wrong with that.

No, but I guess if like you're a guy who like wants to get a lot of girls, I'm sure the ratio there is stacked.

to me like if i'm a girl who goes to sarah lawrence and i have a male classmate like that's an ick like i would you know it's like a man that's trying to like better himself yeah like support women to like okay this is gonna be probably like gender studies i this is gonna be my hottest take ever and people are gonna say claudia you're disgusting i think men who are like

so like women forward like like i don't know what the right way of describing it is and i feel like i'm saying it wrong but like men men who are like, women are like, yeah, like, men who are feminists, like, in a toxic way, I think it's seriously the most unattractive thing ever.

Like, I prefer my men a little bit more traditional.

Like, I would like to be treated as an equal, of course.

Yeah.

Hold the door.

I do.

I feel like sometimes we'll hear about like a terrible man, and it's like, and he was the one wearing like the t-shirt and this feature is female.

Yes.

You know, it's always those guys.

I mean, because what a great way to hide your asshole behavior behind a t-shirt.

No, and I just think like when it comes to relationships, I'm, I'm, and we, we joke about this a lot, but like, I'm, of course, a feminist in at its core.

Like, I think modern wave feminism has taken on a life of its own, and I don't see those women at all.

But the

ideology of feminism, like, bitch, I'm equal, and I'm actually, no, I'm better.

Like, I agree with completely.

When it comes to relationships, I think there are gender roles.

And I tend to adhere to more traditional ones.

And to me, that's what I find attractive.

You don't want to put your luggage in the overhead bin.

Yeah, you're exactly like that.

Exactly.

I find that attractive.

So a man coming in with a futurist female t-shirt, like,

ick.

Ick to you, but I think for the swirlies at Sarah Lawrence, like to have a man in their gender studies class, they're like, oh,

he knows.

Like, that's an enlightened man.

Maybe.

I think it's like actually a great way to be a misogynist and get a lot of girls.

Yes.

Well, I think that's actually more often than not the reality of the men who are wearing the futurist female shirts.

Yeah.

The futurist female, and so is the woman I'm literally beating up at home.

Like for real.

That's always how it happens.

It's a great cover.

It's a great cover.

So I'm not buying it.

Ick.

All's that to say that you're going to be able to do it.

Young J.J.

Abrams.

What if it was like the only school he got into?

Nobody had to connect.

J.J.

Abrams can seriously do whatever he wants.

Now, knowing that he produced Morning Glory, he couldn't do anything wrong.

It's true.

He's the eighth highest-grossing film director of all time.

Thanks to Morning Glory.

I mean, Star Wars should put him like higher than that.

List of highest-grossing film directors.

Let me guess.

James Cameron, number one.

Number one is Steven Spielberg, and his highest-grossing film is Jurassic Park.

That's kind of crazy.

Okay, next.

Number two is James Cameron.

His highest-grossing film is Avatar, which is higher than Jurassic Park, but he's done less films.

Oh, because he's a man with

taste.

What's the word I'm looking for?

Discretion.

No.

Keep going.

Standards?

Standards.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Three, the Russo Brothers.

I never heard of them.

Avengers Endgame is their biggest.

Four, Peter Jackson, Lord of the Rings.

Five, Michael Bay, Transformers.

Six, David Yates, Harry Potter.

Seven, Christopher Nolan, Dark Knight Rises, but also now Oppenheimer.

Eight, J.J.

Abrams, Star Wars.

Fabulous.

Also, nine, Ridley Scott, The Martian, was his highest.

I guess he just does a lot of movies.

Then 10, Tim Burton.

And 11, Ron Howard, who also produced another Nepo Baby, but doesn't get her Nepo flowers.

She doesn't, actually.

Right, she looks through the cracks.

She was actually just cameoed on an episode of Hacks.

But that's also also because she's really talented.

I agree.

Like that episode of Black Mirror shifted the culture.

However, an undeniable talent, it's hard to say when it comes to acting.

Oh my God, it's so true because I was actually thinking that last night while I watched Terra Spray the musical.

And it's crazy to me that that was Nikki Blonsky's first foray into acting because it's the best acting I've ever seen.

And it begs the question, is Nikki Blonsky the talent of our generation or is acting not hard?

Or a third option, can some people be amazing in one role, but not amazing in all roles?

I like that.

And you can't say until you watch her new movie that she was promoting that we said we would watch.

And I just want to say, number 12 director, one of our favorite people, Jon Favreau.

I love him.

Never forget that he directed The Lion King.

I love him.

And I love you.

I love you as well.

And I love the Fast Five.

And this is the last show in the studio for the summer, so kiss it goodbye.

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