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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the toast.
Happy Tuesday that was supposed to be the kickoff to swirly summer episode in the Hamptons.
It still is the kickoff to swirly summer episode in the Hamptons.
However, some of you, you know, a very small percentage compared to the overall share, might realize there's no video today because the video equipment has not arrived in a timely manner.
None of our equipment has arrived in a timely manner.
Thank God Ben Soffer brought this travel microphone or else we'd be screwed.
Screw sisterhood.
Screw sisterhood.
And I'll tell you guys what happened.
I know literally nobody cares about me tracking my UPS package, but like I coordinated all of our equipment to be delivered the day we arrived.
UPS man like fake rang the doorbell and ran away.
I was like, oh, they weren't home to sign.
Really?
I was home.
I I was literally home.
I've been tracking him all day long.
He's supposed to be here.
He keeps pushing it back.
So we just figured it's better to get out the episode.
Audio only to you guys.
And tomorrow is going to be our big busing video episode.
You're not going to want to miss it.
It's really killing me because this is a situation where I really want to blame someone.
And obviously the person to blame is the UPS driver.
I don't know the UPS driver.
And the next logical thing is Ben.
Ben has been so helpful, like trying to like chase down the ups man i i cannot blame him and it's this horrible feeling of having all this anger and nowhere to put it i don't know who to blame like obviously the person to blame is the ups driver but like he's just doing his job and like what does he owe me he doesn't know that what's in that box like my livelihood depends on it yeah i think the best thing to do is to release the anger.
No, I literally can't.
I think after this episode, if you still have anger, which I don't think you're going to have anger after this episode because that's what we do here.
Restorative properties.
We could take a boxing class.
We could go play tennis.
We could play pickleball.
We could go for a run.
We could.
We could do something really strenuous to take the anger out of La Terte because swirly summer has commenced and there's so much to discuss.
We've been here less than 24 hours.
So many things have happened.
And it's just not how I envisioned like the kickoff episode.
And as the, you know, I take my responsibility as like set coordinator extremely seriously.
And any, anything that goes wrong, I feel is a reflection on me and my work.
And it's just, it's not how I wanted to kick off swirly summer.
And I apologize to the YouTube swirly specifically.
Well, it's great that you have a very laxadaisical coworker and boss who said, Turdy, take your time.
You know, good things come to those who wait.
And the way that I feel is like, not everything is going to run smoothly all the time.
No.
And you're due for hiccups along the way.
No, I don't.
And no, no, no.
But like, I feel like things that, you know, beacon was smooth.
Yeah.
Things are smooth.
Yeah.
This is the hiccup.
We will live.
Well, and that's sort of what I was saying yesterday.
Like, we are survivors.
We will get through this difficult chapter.
We are talking so close to each other because we have one microphone.
Oh, yeah.
Shared between the two of us.
I'm up to this vagina.
Should we take a selfie just so people can see like what we're working with?
We're in this corner of my bedroom.
We're literally kissing on the lips.
And we have one microphone.
Ben brought it.
I don't know why.
And when we were packing, he was like, Should I bring this?
I'm like, no, I'm literally having a whole studio's worth of, I have four microphones coming because Ben's going to be using the studio that I set up.
I was like, why on earth would you bring this little travel mic, which I love and has been great, you know?
It's been good to us.
But why would I need it when I have, I brought two Share microphones from home.
I rented more.
Like, and he was just like, I don't know.
I just feel like I should throw it in.
And like, I hate that mentality but and i hate even more that that mentality like proved to be effective i have something also not i don't know what's more infuriating like your predicament or what i'm about to share with the class and i think people are gonna be like are gonna gasp smile for the selfie three
selfie
okay that'll be today's post-show picture literally um something equally frustrating and actually more of like a kind of a long-term issue it's gonna be an issue for longer than the podcast equipment and you guys are so glad we're talking about this you guys like I'm so upset.
And this is one of the situations.
Who are you mad at?
Yourself?
Myself, however.
I know, I heard you finding a way to blame your husband last night.
And it's a good one.
It is.
Just listen.
Just listen.
I left my sourdough starter in New York at our hotel, and I didn't realize until we were halfway to the Hamptons.
I had someone run to the hotel and try and get it, but the room had already been cleaned and like it was gone.
No, obviously, like housekeeping saw this like jar of guck and they threw it out.
Yeah.
Or they took it down and they were going to put in lost and found, but like it was out of the room and i wasn't gonna send someone on a wild goose chase through like the innards of the hotel looking for a jar and also once i got my jar of guck like do i even want it after it's been like on a journey on a journey so so what are our options here so our so let we just need to process the fact that i brought my sourdough starter all the way up to new york i've been practicing i just posted a vlog yep of me so excited all i talk about in the vlog is how i need to practice so much because i want to give you guys the best bread possible And everyone here is like looking forward to it.
We've kind of been like relying on it.
We didn't buy any bread.
We're starting a sandwich shop.
We didn't buy any bread.
We literally did not buy bread for the home.
We're like, well, we have a starter.
So you've kind of screwed us.
I screwed everyone.
And what I'm going to do, so I could start a new starter, but it takes five days to be active.
And it would be a young starter when it's like, I have a mature starter.
I do have discard in my fridge at home.
And Olivia Ashre has been tasked with getting it to me.
Let me ask you a question.
You can just leave this shit like for months and weeks at a time.
In a fridge.
Not, it's supposed to live out on the counter, but when you put it in the fridge, it becomes like stable.
Got it.
And it buys you time.
Okay.
So yeah, when people need to go on vacation, you leave your starter in the fridge.
And then when you take it out and feed it once, then you're back.
And then I think it begs a question from the non-sourdough community.
Why don't you just make a new starter?
It takes five days to get your starter up and going.
And we don't have time like that.
The older your starter is, the better it is, like the more active and fermented.
And so I would be like, it wouldn't be my best breads.
And I could do, that's what I was going to do until I remembered Olivia could bring me starter yeah
it's definitely like an annoying thing to ask someone who's traveling with two children um if you'll bring your jar of goop but you know one man's jar of goop is another man's sustenance so here's how we're gonna blame my husband
i'm so jealous that you can like i can't in a real way and it's like i'm trying not to because i would be too mad yeah but when we were leaving yesterday we were packing up the kitchen and everything and i wasn't packing the kitchen as much as i was putting all of the food into snack containers like slicing all the fruit and taking like some chips out, putting everything into like snack canisters for the road trip.
So I never like did like one final taking of things from the kitchen, but he did.
And I sleep.
And he was standing over the fridge, blocking the door, the fridge door where my starter was.
But you could have seen it.
And he said, do you need anything else from the fridge?
And I was like, no, because I just saw like an old chicken there and watermelon.
So I said, no.
Okay.
We carried on because I didn't, I forgot about it.
And then yesterday when I was like, by the way, when you asked me that like did you see my starter there?
He was like yeah, that's why I asked you do you need anything from the fridge?
Yeah, it was like a trick question.
He should have said like don't you want this jar that you literally fucking putting your burke in?
Yeah bring it up to New York so we would have bread for the summer.
Okay.
Okay.
Listen.
Listen.
I truly see both sides because was it a manipulative way of asking the question?
Yes.
But like in his defense, like I could see him saying like, I saw the starter.
I asked her if she didn't want anything else in the fridge, like, because I thought it was weird.
He should have pushed harder.
Because you were doing too much.
You were were packing up the kids the next step of like i think this is important to her she literally feeds it every day she's constantly videoing herself with it yeah it's sitting why would she want to leave it in the fridge door it's a mason jar from our house we're just gonna leave this glass jar with a special rubber band yeah he was just not in tune with what was necessary but in his defense it wasn't his job to be like it's my job yeah and there's like of all the things going on at the time where you're like packing up your whole family the sourdough and it's sort of collateral but it wasn't a priority like getting everyone out and in a timely manner and all the suitcases packed and naps and car seats like that's in hindsight like there's nothing worse i could have left behind everything else is replaceable i mean you could have left behind one of your kids like by accident everything else is replaceable i know even if i left behind a stroller i have other stroller a crib i i have other crib like margo's coming out she i we actually couldn't fit everything in our car she's taking some things right everything else like margo could have except for this perishable item in the fridge It's devastating.
It is.
It's devastating.
But we need to look
forward.
All I wanted this morning was a slice of sourdough with cement.
Same, same.
But we need to look forward.
We are.
I am.
I am.
I'm not someone who like gets
and harps on things that I cannot change.
I'm just like, how do I fix it?
I'm a solution-oriented person.
Olivia.
Olivia is literally on her way.
Yeah.
And the other thing is I would start a new starter today just in case Olivia forgets, you know?
But I don't even have my bread scale, mason jars, wood inspect.
I have nothing.
Olivia is bringing it.
Have you communicated with her like step-by-step logistically?
No, because I believe she's going to call me when she's at my house, which is around now.
So it's great that my phone's on do not disturb while we use it to do a backup recording.
No, we have so many imminent like things coming in.
Once, if the UPS comes while we are recording, like I swear to God, I'm storming the UPS headquarters.
Yeah.
Like.
They will hear my wrath.
Well, we're starting this episode with a bad attitude, considering it's swirly summer.
I mean, how can we not after what we've been through?
I know.
First the equipment, then the sourdough.
Well, first the sourdough, then the equipment.
It's just a lot.
And it's been a lot.
You know, moving into a new home is always going to be a lot.
Like, yeah, yesterday was
our big travel day.
We're here for a couple of weeks.
So we unpacked.
We got everything together.
We are slowly, you know, coming back to it.
And making the place our own.
Making the place.
And that's something about us.
Like, we literally might as well travel the way they used to, like, back in the day with rugs, lamps, furniture.
Like, we are.
Remember when Marjorie Post brought her own like marble for her home in Moscow?
Like, that's us.
No, when they, like, were on the wagons on the Oregon Trend, like people had, like, should we keep our own?
Everything my own.
Should we keep our rug or not?
That's literally us.
We move in with everything.
We bring blankets, we bring pillows, we bring cookware, we bring knives.
You know, Ben had to bring like a million.
He brought our Le Cruset pot.
Like.
Oh, yeah, I needed the Le Cruset pot for the bread.
That wasn't, but we also need like all new cookware.
Like shout out to Flav City Cookware.
That's coming in clutch.
It's a kitchen in a box.
This is this is really where Jackie and I rely heavily on our sponsors.
Like we reach out and being like, hey, we're trying to make this house our own.
Do you have any blankets you want to send?
Like I, that's where I feel like I really abuse my influence or power in situations like this.
It's true, but we also can't even do it until we're here and we have to see what's value we have.
Like, maybe they have good towels.
Yep.
Nope.
Okay, Brooklyn.
Like, what's up?
No, we reached out to Brooklyn.
We
reached out to Mickey Couture.
We reached out to Flav City.
I reached out to Hoka.
I got some new sneakers for everybody in the house.
Like, I am abusing my power as an influencer for this trip because if you're not going to, then like, seriously, what's the point?
Yeah.
It's true.
If you can't shower the ones you love and free gifting from brands, then seriously, like you shouldn't do this job.
No, and often brands send gifts when, like, I have everything at home that I need.
And I don't want it or anything.
And I already have your product and I love it and I'm good.
Thank you.
But this home could use your product.
Correct.
So we'll be situated in about five to seven business days.
Just in time for the trip to be over is when we will officially like have everything we need in this house, you know?
No, we literally travel like aristocrats from the gilded age.
We seriously need to calm down because we are not aristocrats.
And we also like, we need to just aristocratic influencers with a free wagon of stuff.
Title.
we
we also we need to kind of take our own advice and bloom where we're planted like yes do we have the sharpest knives no
do we have a cutting board no
will we be okay yes because like i said the other day we are survivors and we will get through this and we are huddled over this microphone we will have back issues for years to come due to the extenuating circumstances of this podcast session however it's all for the greater good it's all for the art so i hope you enjoyed this episode i I hope you share it with a friend.
I hope it wasn't all for nothing.
And I hope that, you know, you're enjoying your swirly summer and that maybe your swirly summer is off to like a little bit more of a cohesive start.
Yeah.
And maybe this is our karma because we've been like bragging.
Like we've cut
swirly summer, like we're going to have the best time.
Sucks to some.
Yeah.
Like eat my ass, bitch.
Like eat my dust, literally.
And now we've been humbled.
This is giving this podcast setup is giving like 2018 toast.
Please don't say that.
No, no, no.
Not no, in a good way, if like just being like industrious.
We're scrappy.
Like we started the shows in 2018.
We actually went out to the Hamptons for Memorial Day weekend and we had just started our Patreons.
We were like doing podcasts.
We had like our little Zoom podcast equipment, not Zoom communications.
Like
certain technologies, different companies.
And we were doing our best.
And I think we're going back to our roots.
And that's just kind of, I'm so glad you brought that up, a point that I really want to stress to our community out there, especially those who, you know, like to leave nasty comments when things don't go 100% right.
Like we are doing our best.
We are all all doing our best.
I think we're our own toughest critics.
It's true.
It's true.
That's definitely true.
We have a high bar.
Do you think maybe we, in like a subconscious way, self-sabotaged?
Like, I think if we never even mentioned any of this, yeah, we just said, like, hey, we're busy.
Today's episode is audio only.
Today's audio only, you know, whatever.
Once again, our transparency and our authenticity is destroying our careers.
It's going to be the end of us.
It's our critternate.
It's the thing that makes us strong, but it's also the thing that's going to ruin us.
It will result in an untimely death of our careers because we don't seriously shut the fuck up.
Like, why couldn't anybody?
And by the way, 97% of people who enjoy our content enjoy it audio only.
Like our numbers comparatively from YouTube to podcasts are so it's like not even real how few people listen on watch on YouTube.
No one would be the wiser if we just said like here's today's episode.
And we could also do that like more often.
But we but that's why we have the connection that we have.
We could have even done a whole summer of this.
Of audio.
But that's why we have the connection that we have.
Like that's why, you know,
the community shows up in the way that they did at the beginning theater and that the way that they will at the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center July 10th, 17th, 18th, and 25th.
Not on your birthday.
Sorry, July 11th, 17th, 18th, and 25th.
Like
things are the way that they are for this very reason, you know?
And
I feel blessed.
And life is not without its challenges.
And thank God that we have each other during times like this.
It's true.
Times like these, you learn to live again.
And thank God we have music to usher us through this challenging time.
I don't feel like we've been listening to enough music.
We haven't because there is sonos in the house and I could not for the life of me figure it out yesterday.
Okay, I think we need kind of the soundtrack to our summer.
Yeah.
And I think it's going to be Luke Homes.
Summer.
Summer.
Smiley.
Summer.
Or should it be high school musical too?
Yeah, the thing is, is, and I love these kids more than anything, you have to share like the music rights with them.
Okay, but there is common ground.
High school musical.
High school music, like hairspray.
Sometimes it comes on in the shuffle after Moana.
They love Lion King, and I actually really, really enjoyed that new soundtrack from the newer movie.
I guess so far the soundtrack has been We Know the Way from Moana.
That's just like their
hyper first fixation song.
Like every three days,
it's a new song that's on repeat.
It's only a three day, so enjoy it while it lasts.
I like that one.
Is there one or two?
There's only one so far.
Moana one.
Oh, I get confused with frozen.
What is there, like six frozens?
There's two and a half frozens because there's also Olaf's Frozen Adventure, which is the number, like Harry's never seen Frozen one or two.
He's only seen Olaf's Frozen Adventure.
And it's super pop.
Super pop.
Yallur.
I guess, I guess, like Olaf is for the boys.
Oh.
Because that's sort of how it's happened in our house.
Like, and Ana and Elsa are
like the supporting characters.
And Olaf is the star.
I love that.
And I think Levi really likes Olaf too.
That's just how it's like naturally shaken out.
They gravitate towards Olaf.
I like that.
Yeah.
I think Olaf's a good role model for these kids.
Like, obviously, he promotes a really healthy body positive image.
He sort of leads with love.
And he's lead with love.
He's super positive.
I would say he does border on being like toxically positive because he kind of has no grip on reality.
And I was reading like one of his books to one of the kids.
Like, it was really frustrating.
He was like, look at all the snow.
And there was literally no snow.
Like, he's kind of like delusional and mentally ill.
He's extremely mentally ill.
And like, he doesn't, he's so excited about summer.
And it's like, Olaf, summer's not for you.
Like, you're not a summer swirly.
But having said that, he leads with love.
He does lead with love.
Also promotes a lot of fruits and veggies.
Right, of course, that carrot knows.
And also, like, Olaf and Sven, it's giving like Harry and Bruno.
It is.
It's also just giving, like, loving the skin that you're in, you know?
Yeah.
Like, you might be different, obviously, because, you know, you're made of ice, but that doesn't mean you're any less deserving of equality, love, and joy.
Yeah.
Like, Olaf's going through his own stuff too.
But I think the thing with Olaf, because like he never accepts reality, like when a reality hits him in the face, like he crashes and burns.
He doesn't know how to pick himself back up.
I'm going to make a grand bold statement, if I may.
About Olaf.
About, yes.
Okay.
Donkey from Shrek walked so Olaf could run.
They're like the dumb sidekick animal.
Yeah, I think if you look at a lot of kids' movies, you'll find there's always one, maybe.
But Donkey is the sort of pioneer of that archetype.
Of that genre, but we'd have to go back further.
I'm not interested in doing that.
We'd have to go back further.
My foot's falling asleep.
Change position.
No, I'm really, I love that about you, like your solution-orientedness.
But sometimes like a girl's just gotta complain.
And I never do, so.
Okay.
But you're just like sitting cross-legged.
No, I'm sitting crazy.
Like, I can't feel my legs.
You're sitting like a lady.
Oh, it's just a lady.
I'm glad you brought that up.
It's a part of my new life.
No, but I'm saying, like, you're sitting with your legs crossed.
Why are you uncomfortable?
Um, because my foot's falling asleep.
Like, have I not made that clear?
Okay.
Why is your foot falling?
Like, because my legs are crossed.
Okay.
Like, now they're uncrossed.
I might, I feel the blood coming back.
You know when your foot gets like cold because the blood's coming back?
Oh my, my phone vibrated.
Please be UPS.
No.
Or is it Olivia looking for me?
It's not.
Okay.
Hopefully, she can like surmise that I'm recording.
Hopefully, she can surmise.
I don't think it doesn't like jeopardize my opportunity to get starter.
Yeah.
Well, I wrote in our group chat.
You said if she's looking for me?
I said, we're podcasting for the next hour.
If the doorbell rings, please let me know.
So Olivia will know that we're podcasting.
You think she'll be able to surmise?
Okay, let me talk to text.
Olivia, Kama.
If you have any sourdough-related questions, we will be done with the podcast in an hour, period.
Done.
I love talk-to-texting.
Yeah.
I will say, like, like one gripe I have with our iPads that have become so, such important technological advances in our show is I haven't, I don't have talk to text enabled.
So whenever we're like quick googling searching something during the podcast, I have to type.
And I'm not a good iPad typer.
No, I rely on like telepathy from my iPad.
Like I put in blib blue blop and you better fucking know what I meant.
It's not really an iPad thing.
It's a Google thing.
And Google is absolutely incredible at reading like my mind.
And I know there's a lot of kind of hot button topics that people are like, you know, controversial things about Google and like data, whatever.
If they're gonna take my data, but also read my mind, I am okay with that.
No, like take what you need as long as you're giving me what I need, right?
Take what you need.
It's a give and take.
Yeah.
Well, we do, you know, have a job to do, and that's to deliver an incredible slate of content, which I'm never worried about.
It's as if we haven't done that for the last 20 minutes.
And I was going to say, I already feel like we're off to a great start.
Like saying Olaf leads with love, like that's a very funny statement.
Like we're extremely creative, and I'm just, I know there's a bright future for us, even in this dark time.
I never doubted it for one second.
I did.
Okay, well, that's insane.
Yeah.
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Okay, our first story.
Are you ready for it?
I am.
Prince Harry is in a bit of like an an awkward situation.
Okay, I saw this.
So Prince Harry's SB Award is drawing backlash from Pat Tillman's mother.
I love Pat Tillman.
I just want to say that.
Of course.
Every year I'm like reminded because like they do something for him at the SBs.
And it's just, you know, they don't make men like Pat Tillman anymore.
I feel like as a country, there's not much we can agree on, but respect for Pat Tillman is one of them.
So that's why this is like really awkward.
Yeah.
The SBs announced that the 2024 Pat Tillman Award for Service would be going to Harry Windsor, the Duke of Sussex, to recognize his impact on the veteran community through the Invictus Games.
So it's like sports and service and veteran
veterans.
I see that.
It's not like out of thin air.
However, Pat's mother,
Mary Tillman, told the Daily Mail that she was shocked by the choice.
She said, I am shocked as to why they would select such a controversial and divisive individual to receive the award.
There are recipients that are far more fitting.
There are individuals working in the veteran community that are doing tremendous things to assist veterans.
These individuals do not have the money, resources, connections, or privilege that Prince Harry has.
I feel that those types of individuals should be recognized.
Now, do me a favor.
Tell me the last couple of years who's won the Pat Tillman Award.
So last year, it was the Buffalo Bills training staff for their efforts to
save DeMar Hamlin.
Of course.
Let's go to...
Like, do they go with big names usually, or is it used as a spotlight for somebody we might not, you know, know is doing amazing work?
I probably a mix of each, but let's go to all of them.
So in 2022, it went to Gretchen Evans.
And who's that?
Who's that?
That's a good question.
Us Weekly.
The Pat Tillman Award.
And who got the four?
Thanks, Queens.
I love when people just do the work for us.
So 2018 was Jake Wood.
He was an offensive lineman for the Wisconsin Badgers.
And he enlisted in the Marine Corps after September 11th.
Oh, wow.
So that feels right.
That feels like, you know, a good use of the award.
Then 2019 was Kirsty Ennis.
And she was a former Marine Corps sergeant who was involved in a helicopter crash.
Um, and she had her knee, her leg amputated.
Oh, wow.
Then in 2020, Kim Clavel.
She left her career as a professional boxer to return to her roots as a nurse when COVID pandemic hit.
Okay, so more often than not, it's not big names.
No.
And it's usually people
connected to sports.
I guess in Victor's games is like the sports connection.
Yes.
Yes.
And the veteran connection.
The connection's pretty good, but yeah, it is everyday people who you would never really hear their names except for this award and what they did.
And then that Gretchen Evans, she was a retired Army command sergeant and
she founded Team Unbroken, which is an adaptive racing team of mostly veterans who have experienced life-altering injuries and they compete in the world's toughest race.
So it's similar to Invictus Games, again, except she's a no-name person.
So I feel Mrs.
Tillman's gripe.
I don't disagree, although it's important that I recognize my own bias.
Like I personally despise Prince Harry.
Like that's a place I've gotten to over the last couple of years.
I think a lot of people were like, Megan, Megan.
When I, you know, engaged in some of their content, I learned that Megan is not the problem.
Like it is 100% Harry.
And like, I actually hate him.
And I love Pat Tillman.
Right.
And I love the Espes.
And it's like, honestly, Harry is everywhere in American culture.
Like, can you leave us the fuck alone?
Like, leave the Espes alone.
I agree.
However, I have so many, so many thoughts.
First, I just want to say, like, this is is more so on the espies for putting Harry even in, and I'm an, I'm not a Harry file.
No.
I'm not a Harry file.
Like, I'm not going to defend him, but I feel like he didn't, maybe he campaigned for this award, but like, he can't make them give it to him.
So it's like the Espes for putting him in this position, giving him an award that he's really not
right for.
Agreed.
And two, I hear what she's saying.
It always has gone to ordinary people who've done extraordinary things.
Now, I do think it could go to
a high-profile person who's done extraordinary things.
Like, even if it was like JJ Watt, he's done so much service and he's an athlete.
I don't think we'd be hearing from Pat Tillman's mother.
No.
So for it to be Harry, and she's right, someone like so divisive and controversial.
And even J.J.
Watt, yeah, he's privileged now, but he just like had a normal life growing up.
Like, yeah, of course, Prince Harry has done charitable work.
He's been giving everything.
It's literally his job to do charitable work.
I agree.
And I don't know if his charitable work exceeds his level of privilege.
You know what I mean?
Like there are wealthy people who go above and beyond the call of duty.
Part of being wealthy is like doing charity.
Mackenzie Bezos is one one of those people who's like gone above and beyond, literally giving away all of her money.
Certain people go above and beyond.
Maybe those people are eligible for awards.
I don't think Harry's philanthropic efforts are so great compared to his position in this world.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
Like he's an actual prince.
Yeah.
So I feel as though she's not wrong for this.
And also, do you think that she should have say in who gets the award?
Yes.
If it's going to be in your son's name, like yeah, you can't just be like throwing it and giving it to anyone.
It's also like a really delicate matter.
Like he was playing in the NFL after 9-11, felt you know, pulled to fight for his country and ended up.
He enlisted in Afghanistan and was killed.
Was killed.
So it's a highly sensitive subject, too.
And I don't think,
I don't think Harry's right.
And also, call me crazy.
Don't you feel like it should go to somebody American?
And where do the Invictus Games take place?
I thought Invictus Games was like a UK thing.
Yeah, or maybe Canada.
Or maybe it's like a route.
Maybe it moves every year.
But it's definitely not an American thing.
So I'm just looking it up because I hadn't heard of it.
And I also think, like, as we said, like, Pat Tillman is so beloved.
What's not to like?
And like, associating yourself with him is a good look for a person.
And I just don't think it's fair that he's now doing PR, posthumously doing PR for Prince Harry.
Yeah, it's on the website.
But again, it's on the SPs.
They gave him that award.
Yes.
Yes.
So Prince Harry's in a very awkward situation.
And I think for one of the the first times, it's like not necessarily of his own making.
So the Invictus Games is an international multi-sport event first held in 2014 for wounded, injured, and sick servicemen, both men and women, serving as veterans.
It was founded in the UK.
The chairman, the founding patron is Harry.
The chairman is Lord Allen of Kensington.
Like it's a very British thing.
Yeah.
Not that it's not worthy of like, but...
The award's not going to the Invictus, it seems.
It's it's going to Harry.
Right.
Right.
Invictus.
Oh, I guess it took place in America in 2016.
It's kind of like the Olympics.
London and then Orlando, Toronto, Sydney, Netherlands, Germany, Canada.
Like, it moves around every year.
Cool.
Cool.
So I just feel like that's an awkward spot to like wake up in where like Pat Tillman's mother is.
Is it coming for your neck?
Yeah.
And she's not wrong.
No.
So they like it said, you know, waiting for response response from comment from, I don't think he has anything to say about this.
There's really nothing to say to like, you know, a grieving mother who's like angry at your association with her son.
Also, didn't they go to the Espys last year?
And we're like, why are they at the Esbys?
Did they?
That feels familiar because they don't go to the things we think they should go to.
And so why go to the Espys?
And like, maybe that was him campaigning for this year.
Thinking if he associates his name with Pat Tillmans, the Americans will like him.
But it's not working.
Honestly, it's a good strategy, though.
Like, Pat Tillman is really like America's, you know,
hero, beloved, bringing across, like, you know, it's bipartisan and bringing people from the sports world.
And, no, whoever came up with that idea, like on his team being like, we need the American people's love.
Let's give me the Pat Tillman Award.
It's genius.
They didn't account for Mary, though.
They never do.
Yeah.
And I think I read somewhere that in the past she has known who's going to get the award.
And this was the first year like they didn't tell her.
Or not the first year, but they didn't tell her this year.
And she knew last year.
And interesting.
She always is, you know, in on it cc'd on the emails she should be she's pat tillman's mother right
so the sbs air on july 11th most of you will be at our show in west hampton and by most i mean like 0.003
but
another major cultural event and we'll be giving out a competing pat tillman award that night so make sure to tune in and if you could give the pat tillman award right now to someone so it's at someone in sports and service yeah someone who like actively um that goes above and beyond for veterans.
It doesn't have to be just veterans.
Oh, it doesn't?
Like DeMar Hamlin and COVID.
Okay.
So like who did a lot this year?
I need to think, oh, I would give it to, no, no, I need to really think of all the sports and all the people and who do we love, but not even like just because of us.
Yeah.
And I really don't want to like discrete.
Like, it's a big, it's a big thing.
Yeah.
It's a tall test.
I don't want to just like, one, I'm not making a joke, but two, I don't want to say someone like small potatoes.
No, and there's also like
a lot of people who it could go to.
It's not like Harry was like the only person doing anything.
So, like, all right, we'll give it to him this year.
Like, there were, there are a lot of worthy people, and I'm sure people we don't even know.
That's the whole point of the award.
That's the whole point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yikes.
Yikes.
Are you ready for our next story?
I am.
Hawk to is making headlines again.
Oh, yeah.
So, country star Zach Bryan brought...
Hawk to a girl on stage for his revival.
He always brings up someone from the crowd on stage.
But then also, Hawktua did her first public appearance on Plan Bri Uncut Podcast, which is Zach's Brian's girlfriend's podcast.
And it looked as though they recorded it the same night.
In the back room.
In the back room,
the same night as the concert.
It was Hoctua's night out.
I don't know what it is.
And maybe it's like I'm at this place in my life where content like this no longer serves.
Maybe like I'm not under, like I understand Hoctua, like how she became famous.
She like did this viral video.
The thing went viral, yada, yada.
For me, it's not like giving, but I think that maybe I'm just like, I've moved past this.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I have to to be honest.
I've not even seen the original video.
And also, like, I'm not mad at Hoctua.
I'm just going to call her HT for gravity's sake.
I'm not mad at HT.
It's more so the culture.
Like, the fact that this girl is just like a man on the street in an interview and like she said something and everyone's lost their marbles over it.
And I actually like the fact she's been like offline since this happened.
She said she was already like not on social media at the moment.
So she's moving in an interesting way.
With the UTA sign.
Not in a thirsty way, because the thirsty person would be back on Instagram immediately like, hey, I'm Hatua.
It's me over here.
And that more often than not ruins it.
Like, you just want to be.
I'm on cameo now.
Right.
The person's trying so hard to make money, to make a moment, that it ruins it because you're like, okay, never mind.
Like, yeah.
Sorry, we started with you.
But instead, she's like doing a couple serious things.
I mean, Zach Bryan is major.
She's signing with UTA.
UTA.
I feel like she has plans that maybe she had before she was HT, but this is a good platform for her.
There was also a rumor that she's a teacher, but she doesn't.
Yeah, but I've heard that was AI-generated rumor.
She was never a teacher.
They just want her to be a teacher.
Yeah, because like
the fantasy fantasy.
So true.
Like you sick fucks.
No, literally.
How would anyone want this person to be a teacher?
I always love to see like a woman in media doing her thing.
So I support.
I'm happy for her.
It's just not.
of extreme interest to me.
Like every time I see an upset, they're like, Hawktua girl did this.
I'm like, cool.
You know?
That's so funny because last night you were being like, Hawktua girl did this.
You were like, she did her first interview.
Yeah, I was showing you that funny tweet.
No, but before the funny tweet, you were like, Hawktua did her first interview.
Did I?
Yeah.
Yeah, because I was showing you the tweet.
I also find it interesting who she gave her first interview to.
There are the usual suspects.
Yes, Bill Ackman was tweeting about Hawktua Girl.
That's why I shared it with you because that's fucking crazy.
Before that tweet, you were just saying, like, she did her first interview.
And that's not what happened.
Okay.
Well, I thought it was interesting that she did Plan Brian Cut.
And I think that's actually a really great.
I agree.
I think Barstool is the perfect place for her.
And coupled with going on stage at Zach Bryan.
Perfection.
Perfection.
No, I wonder if she also has a publicist because this seems well thought out.
Yeah.
And it was in Nashville, which is where the video went viral.
Like, she's kind of a Nashville ambassador now.
It's really firing in all cylinders.
It's good stuff.
Yeah.
I like it.
I wonder what her aspirations are.
And I do wonder what she was doing for a living prior to this.
Did she not say in the interview?
I don't know.
People were saying she was a teacher and then there was...
I feel like in the interview, I overheard the clip and I just can't remember what she said she was.
Oh.
Maybe it wasn't like the most memorable.
Hmm.
Well, love to see a woman in business out here succeeding and apparently making big moves.
Yeah.
That's fabulous.
Made it all its way all the way to Bill Ackman.
That was so funny.
Like, that's huge.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
I am.
Well, some good news for me.
Kylie and Timothy Chalamay are seen out together for the first time in months.
Kylie and Timothy were spotted wearing face masks during a low-key outing at a popular Hollywood movie theater.
They attempted to keep a low profile while hitting the Hollywood tourist hotspot on Friday.
They were seen wearing face masks as they appeared to catch a movie at the Chinese theater on Hollywood Boulevard in LA.
Yeah, I think a lot of people mistook their
desire for privacy as their abundance of caution.
I don't think these two people were wearing masks for any other reason than like so people wouldn't see their faces.
100%.
No, it wasn't getting encampment or no, no, people, no, people were like, oh my God, things are getting really bad.
Kylie and Timothy are wearing masks.
Should we all start masking again?
Oh, they thought it was COVID-19.
Yes.
I feel like if you're so fearful of COVID that you need to wear a mask, then you can't.
You wouldn't be going to the movie theater, of course.
No, no, this was definitely a privacy thing.
I guess there was like this question mark if they were still together.
And this is, you know, the exclamation point that they are.
Yeah, I just don't understand why it's so hard for them to just go to a movie without getting professional paparazzi photos.
Yeah, I mean, Mindy Kalen gave birth to a whole ass baby and nobody knew.
Like, I agree.
Like, and if they knew the paparazzi is gonna be there, then the face masks are relevant.
Also, when you're at that level and you want to see a movie, like you can have it screened in your home.
Of course.
So you're going out to be seen.
Like this is, and every time like a celebrity like successfully like hides something from us, like most recently Mindy Kaling having a baby and nobody knowing, it further proves that moments like this like are intentional.
So what
is being said here?
It's like, hey, look at me, but don't look at me.
Yeah, look at me.
With my mask, please don't look at my face.
But yes, I'm with my boyfriend.
Like they're not going to the movie theater.
Like it's dirty.
Like they don't go to movie theater i just feel like kylie
is above like fake paparazzi
so i don't know i don't know what happened here
i don't know what happened here either but all i know is that they wanted us to know that this happened here and all i know is that i'm glad they're still together because i I think they're OTP.
And so randomly, Paulina, Pauline Chalamay, his sister, is pregnant.
Like, she didn't do an announce.
She's so low-key.
I think it's been bringing Kylie and Timothy Timothy even closer.
Honestly, it's so true.
Like, Auntie Kylie.
Entering his uncle era, too, for the first time.
And perhaps that sort of love and devotion he could apply to his future stepchildren.
Yeah, and I think it will bring Kylie and Paulina closer.
Yeah, I think so too.
I think it's good for everyone.
I think Rising Tides, Rise All Tides is what we're trying to say here.
Agreed.
So I'm just happy they're still together, even though I never really doubted it.
I never thought much about it.
I kind of forgot about them.
When was the last time they were spotted together?
Golden Globes in an official capacity.
Oh, that's really like a long time ago.
Yeah.
but he's also been working on bob dylan yes yes and she's you know just being a mother and a businesswoman which is extremely time-consuming as you know yeah yeah um
so i like it yeah i i still am at a place and i think i say this every time we talk about him where i don't understand like what it is about timothy chalamet that people find extremely attractive kylie included but again you know different strokes for different folks and i'm happy for everyone involved yeah
Okay, we're just so positive.
We are so positive.
And we're very much in our, you know, we're just letting everybody do what makes them happy and letting the chips fall where they may.
Exactly.
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Our next story.
Romance rumors are a swirl and swirly.
Who?
Lucy Hale has sparked romance rumors with Rob Lowe's son, John Lowe.
Remember when she was spotted with Colton Underwood?
Remember when she was spotted with Skeet Ulrich?
Remember when, um,
what was I gonna say about Colton?
Oh, I was just thinking the other day when we were talking about Allie Raisman, like such an underrated fact of life
is that our queen Allie Raisman dated Colton Underwood like pre-bachelor while he was technically like a low-level player in the NFL.
Yeah, don't sully her name.
I'm sorry.
It's just, let me, I, I, I remembered and I thought maybe everybody else could use the reminder on.
And like, I gave so much to Colton Underwood, like all of my goodwill, all of the benefits of my doubts.
And I'm out.
Like I, oh, I'm not out.
You're not out on it.
No, his husband is so pro-Israel.
Like actively, he's stuck.
They are allies of the community.
I am an ally of them.
Like, they need anything, I'll be there for them.
Okay.
You just call out my name.
So Colton just like loves a pro-Israel swirly.
Allie Raisin.
Whether you know.
What's his husband's name?
Wherever.
Jordan.
I don't know.
I just like, someone sent me his content once.
I was like, this is Colton Underwood's husband.
I'm like, wait, what?
I think his name is Jordan Underwood.
Okay, well, Lucy Hale has moved on from Colton Underwood and Skeet Ulrich.
I do often wonder, though, about her hike with him because it was not two days before he came out as gay.
Maybe he was just like leaning on her for advice.
And compared, how many questions do you have about that hike compared to Tarek's armed hike?
Comparatively, very little, but still a lot of questions for Lucy and Colton, but not as many as I have for Tarek and Christina.
You know me, like a celebrity hike means a lot to me.
A lot can happen on the celebrity hike.
You just said about that.
But also, a celebrity hike also means so little to you.
Like when you see a celebrity on Runyon, like swiping past, it's nothing.
Tapping through.
It's more often than not actually meaningless, which is why when they stand out, they really stand out.
Lucy, Colton, Tarek, and Christina.
Additional title.
By the way.
Tarik, get your gun.
Wait, you know the Taylor Swift song on TTV?
Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus?
Tarek or Colton?
Or
Tarek or Christina or Lucy or Colton.
But not aristocratic influencers with a wagon full of furniture.
That's how you know it's a premium episode, even though we're hunched over this piece of shit microphone, because we have so many options for
titles.
However, the story at hand, Lucy Hale, who's 35, it's just like Jermaine to the story.
And John Owen Lowe Rob Lowe's son, who you know.
I do.
Like, yeah, do you recognize that face?
I'll pull up a better picture.
He's an actor.
What is he in?
I don't know him.
And by the way.
I feel like he's friends with Ben.
Like, I can't.
What?
Like, I just feel like you know him.
I've literally never seen this person in my life.
Should we ask Ben if he knows him?
Yeah.
I can't think of it.
Maybe just because you guys went to the roast of Roblo, I'm saying.
We did go to the roast of Roblox.
Okay, he's literally in nothing that we've seen.
So why is this guy's face so familiar?
I think he just has that face.
No, no, no.
He's in stuff.
Oh, wait.
I'm sorry.
They're showing me his character.
Go to his IMDb.
I am.
They were showing me what he's written.
Oh, he was on this Watch What Happens Live episode with Tom Schwartz.
Did you watch that episode?
Oh, yeah.
That's how you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I like how that's the first photo that comes up on IMDb.
And that's why I know you've recently started using like Google for discography.
IMDB is supreme.
Yeah, no, they failed me multiple times.
That is hilarious.
Oh, he was in Holiday in the Wild,
that movie.
With Rob Lowe.
With Rob Lowe.
And Charlotte York.
Yes.
By the way, what an underrated Nepo baby.
Dare I say, not to be rude, a failed Nepo baby?
Or maybe he's still.
I think the jury's out, even though he is 29.
But we've never heard of him.
We've never heard of his work.
We had to do this deep dive dive Google search, and the only thing we recognized him first initially was an episode of Watch Robins Live.
Like, I would say, when your dad is Rob Lowe, that's a failed nepotism child.
Agreed.
And it's not for lack of trying because Rob Lowe literally put him in his Netflix movie, Something in the Wild.
Yeah, there must be something in the Wild.
Something in the wild tells me you are not done.
So, anyways, Lucy Hale, John Lowe, spotted leading a lunch station.
29, 35.
Love that.
She's 35.
He's 29.
They're both sober.
So love.
That either can mean friendship or like a very serious relationship.
Oh, it can mean friendship.
So he had posted his six-year sobriety anniversary on April 1st, and she left like a really sweet comment.
She said, this is amazing.
You are amazing.
Bright and shiny human heart.
I really like Lucy Hale.
Love.
Adore.
Could never make me hate her.
No, no.
Like, if Lucy Hale is in something, I know for a fact I'm going to like it.
Yeah, yeah.
It all started with privileged.
It all started with privileged.
God.
Who was?
I feel like we've had this conversation 35 times.
It's Joanna Garcia Swisher,
Lucy Hale, and who's the other girl who looked like Chloe Kardashian?
Is she a famous actress, or was that just the launching pad for Lucy Hale?
And she's not a soup.
I don't know.
Oh, she's sometimes in
Hallmark movies now.
Got it.
But what is her name?
If I thought long and hard, I could get it.
So I'll just, I'll look.
It is Ashley Newborough.
And yeah, she's in some Hallmark movies.
Yeah, I don't know.
Look at her Rolodex.
Classic.
Flipping for Christmas.
I did see Lucy Helves on a podcast recently and a clip came across my desk and she was talking about privileged.
How, like, when it got, well, not really
at length, and I don't think anybody knew what she was talking about, but she was saying she loved doing it so much.
And when it got canceled after one season, like, it was the worst thing that ever happened to her.
But she wouldn't have gotten Pretty Little Liars if she hadn't been available.
due to the cancellation and someone one of the showrunners on like they knew her from privilege so she got the big job of her career off of you know what we consider the big job of her career Like,
that's hard to swallow.
And I feel like if privilege got a second season, oh, I think it was on Jake Shane's podcast where she said that.
And I feel like if privilege got as many seasons as Pretty Little Liars did, a never-ending fucking show, privileged is a better show.
Agreed.
But people don't know quality when they see it.
And that's why we do what we do every day.
And I'm going to use my platform to let you know that you could probably still stream Privilege on CW Seed, where like literally every CWWB 11 show ever made is
CW Seed.
It's an app where like all CWNW 11 archive shows are available to re-watch.
You need to go watch Privilege.
You pay?
I don't know.
You watch commercials?
Maybe.
Okay.
But like it's a good one.
You could probably just like buy it on Amazon for $10.
For sure.
Or you could stream CWC'd.
Yeah.
No, we're giving all options for all different budgets.
So you need to watch Privilege.
It stands the test of time.
I love that.
And who's the grandmother?
All I remember was the episode with the tennis bracelet.
It was like a whole story artist.
We sold the tennis bracelet.
It was such a good show.
Where did it take place?
They They were supposed to be living in Pump Beach, right?
Yeah.
It was so gorgeous.
I love that.
I need to find just the grandma.
Oh, Sharon Lawrence.
Oh, she plays.
She's from Dynasty.
This woman.
Can't you just hear her?
Laurel, their grandmother.
That show was so good.
It was so good.
And nobody like...
And Dave Franco was in it.
Oh, wow.
People don't know a good thing when they have it.
And that's kind of where we are, why we are where we are as a culture, you know?
Look at all these cameos.
Demi Mazar, Sarah Roberts' dad, Kathy Jamie.
Kathy Jamie.
I
just finished watching Entourage.
And Demi Mazar is, she's a character throughout the whole show.
She's Vince's publicist.
She's not in every episode.
She's in every season, but she's like, I would say she's in every like three or four or five episodes.
She's amazing.
She plays as like big time Hollywood publicist.
She's literally the best character on the show.
And she doesn't get enough credit for like her amazing career.
Obviously, most recently younger, where she plays the artist/slash roommate/slash/lesbian.
Um, and then she had that little stint on the Food Network where she had a show called Bitching Kitchen because her husband's like a big tiny chef.
Um, love her, love that.
Yeah, so what do you think about Lucy Hale and Rob Lowe's son?
I don't actually, no, but like now that you're thinking about it, like, do you shit?
No, I don't either.
I think I want something different for her.
Me too.
I don't know Rob's son clearly, except from his work on Watch Robins Live.
So, I want more for her.
I want more for her.
I want much more than this provincial life
i want so much more than this provincial
with an are you ready for our fifth and final story a little musical news because we can't stop singing more than you know wicked has moved up its november release date oh my god circling back to something that we talked about at the top of the show moana 2 was set to come out on november 27th and so was wicked now who knows if this is why one of them hasn't moved but wicked will no longer compete at the box office with Moana 2.
It will fly into theaters a little early, five days earlier on November 22nd.
Whatever.
Like, work.
The sooner the better.
Now I know my plans for Thanksgiving 2024.
Like, I'm hitting the theaters.
Love that.
I also think Downtown Abbey movie number three, is that just...
Does that Christmas 2025?
Let's look it up.
I actually almost had it as a story the other day, but then it got nicked, so I never read the details.
Yeah, the third movie is like well underway, but I think that it might
be September 2025.
Next year, okay, okay.
So, we have we have big plans for like the holiday season this year and next year.
I love this.
It obviously has to do with Moana, like you can't compete, and like
we never get good big movies, so that's right.
Why do they have to be really simple weak?
Right, why even the same so close together?
Because if you have a big movie, the studio is gonna put it in theaters during the holidays, that's when it's guaranteed to make the most amount of money.
Away, away
to what if today
will lead the way.
I love that song.
Yeah.
That's been the soundtrack of our trip so far.
Did we not say that earlier in the show?
No, I'm reaffirming, if that's okay, if I may.
If you must.
Like, the last 24 hours, we know the way code did.
We know the way.
Away away.
That's the fun.
Are they singing like a different language there?
Oh, okay, okay.
Because I can never understand the words.
I don't think you're meant to.
They're speaking Moanese.
Yeah.
Polynesian.
I guess.
Oh, I forget that it's not like a mystical fake place.
It's like, it takes place in like the South Pacific.
Tefiti, yeah.
Well, no, Tefiti is not a real place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the region exists.
Yes.
You exist.
It's not like in the context of all in which that came before you.
Yeah, yeah.
I forget that it's not like a fake place.
It's like Irondale.
Right, which is like
Nova Scotia.
Oh.
So actually, this is probably a fake place.
Tefiti is a fake place.
But it's meant to be the Pacific Islands.
No, no.
And like, I think they say that it's the Pacific Islands.
Like, and like the language is real.
On the the Polynesian islu of Montanui.
Yeah, that's exactly where it is.
But is Montanui a real island?
I don't think so.
That's giving Arendale.
It's not.
Because you would be able to tap it in Wikipedia if it was.
So true, and I'd get the history of Montanui.
But it's like akin to Fiji.
Oh my God.
There's this guy on Tahiti.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
There's this guy on TikTok that actually does something really interesting.
I think you would like.
Oh, it's a South Pacific island and the home of the titular protagonist of the 2016 island.
So it's not real.
Moana.
So this guy on TikTok does this thing.
His thing is that like people will give him two crazy different words, concepts, states, cities, whatever.
And he has to get from the Wikipedia page of the first one to the Wikipedia page of the second one, clicking like hyperlinks inside in as few clicks as possible.
So he'll like scroll, scroll, scroll.
Someone will be like, can you connect China to Krispy Kreme Donuts?
Actually, that probably sounds like not that hard.
Yeah.
But they'll give like the craziest ones, and he is like really good at it.
It's one of my favorite things to watch.
Imagine when he was like six.
Someone was like, when you grow up, you're going to to be the best at getting from one Wikipedia page to the other.
At least he's the best at something.
Not everyone could say that.
And that's what you're going to do.
Not everyone can say that.
And you're going to make the videos and people are going to spend their time watching it.
I do want to say, as much as I was like dreading this episode, just given the circumstances of my life, I think that was the best it ever went.
I will say it.
Per use.
It's 20 minutes into my delivery window of one hour.
No, and I've made, I've gotten nothing.
So I have no hope that the equipment will get here.
You might get another episode like this tomorrow.
I will keep you abreast of this.
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