Weenie West's Watch Party: Friday, June 7th, 2024

1h 11m
  1. Luke Combs Announces New Album (16:59)
  2. Diane Keaton Visits Something About Her (Page Six) (21:56)
  3. Pat Sajak Bids Farewell (Variety) (27:31)
  4. Why Sam Asghari Can't Talk About Ex Wife Britney Spears on 'The Traitors' (Page Six) (31:58)
  5. Gen Z Women Are Looking For 'Sexy Rat Boyfriend" in Latest Dating Craze (NY Post) (37:38)


  • Summer House Recap & Weenie of the Week (46:29)


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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

Happy Friday!

Congratulations!

It's honestly the energy in this room, and I have felt it since I woke up this morning.

Like the energy in your house is so somber, almost morose.

It's like everybody knows that I'm leaving, and they can't help but emulate sadness.

Um, so for me, like, it doesn't really feel like a fry yay.

Like, I don't have that yay energy because, like I said, that morose, somber feeling, it doesn't go away.

Is it feeling fry nay?

It's yeah,

I'm so sorry.

Well, I just want to say one thing: if you're watching on YouTube, like the aesthetic of today's video is like six months in the making.

It's unparalleled because Bruno is here, of course, being mommy's angel, working hard, trying to book another trip to the Maldives, even though he's a Jew.

Yeah, so that's gonna be tough.

Impossible.

Impossible.

But he is the elk of dreamers.

So Bruno's gonna find a way to the Maldives.

Yes, Bruno is the elk of a dreamer.

He never gives up on his dreams.

But all that to say, Romeo's here today.

This is his first time on the show.

It is.

So Romeo has been in the house, you know, the entire week, but for recording purposes, I always, you know, put him in the crate.

He could take a nap and I can really focus on my job.

But it's Friday.

It's our last day.

He's been such a good boy, like bringing joy to millions here.

The whole like neighborhood is kind of talking about him.

So I felt like he deserved it.

And we'll see how it goes.

And I feel like this is a good situation for him to be on on the show.

It's not like you're bringing him to the studio where if he's there, like you could always put him put him in the crate.

So if you guys are great.

If Jackie starts talking and like I disappear for like 35 seconds, I'm putting Romeo.

Or if there's a cut and you guys are like, what was cut out?

I feel like that happens a lot when there's a cut in the show.

There are so many reasons why we might have to cut the show.

Like if there's a siren in the background or my Wi-Fi goes out sometimes and people really think there's tea.

We very, very rarely edit our episodes.

So if there's cut it out, something that was said.

Right.

So if there's an abrupt cut, there's always people like theorizing what we possibly said.

More often than not, there's like a police car outside my window making the loudest siren sound.

So we just like pause and wait for it to pass.

Or yeah, Jackie's been having some Wi-Fi issues.

So like our FaceTime freezes.

It's really not, every now and then we say something crazy that we're like, let's take out, but really nine times out of ten, it's just a tech thing or you get a phone call, you know, your exterminator's there.

Or like, I've been waiting for a delivery all day.

It's always, she's been waiting for a delivery.

So yes, the vibe in here is premium.

I feel like today's episode, I'm going to be like touching, like I'm going to be moving around a lot because Romeo, like, of course, is my priority.

I have to do the ads.

I have my coffee.

I'm also wearing my hair au naturale.

Like I didn't even, like sometimes I wear it natural, but like I flat iron the top.

You know, I didn't touch.

I showered last night, went to bed with wet hair.

And I'm just like getting on a plane today.

I was not blowing out my hair for the plane, you know?

I understand, but I also feel like you forget that you are the kind of girl that has natural hair that should be worn.

Like thing.

Growing up, you never had to do your hair.

I had to do my hair every day in in high school.

No, I didn't.

I had like nice.

How would you feel if you had to do your hair every day in high school?

I would feel horrible, like dead ass, because I used to like be able to wake up later than everyone.

Right.

And yeah, I forgot I had.

And still your hair looked better than mine, even though I did it.

But then I got to a place like when we were on the breath, I never did my hair.

And when I look back on those pictures, I'm seriously like aghast.

But not because of your hair.

No, the hair is definitely a huge part of it.

Everything else too, the mold, the chin, the clothes.

Your hair naturally is like a nice hair.

Okay, maybe it's not perfection, like coffee, but you have beautiful hair.

Thank you.

That's really nice of you.

So it's like, all's to say, like, you're not that brave.

I never said I was.

All's to say.

I never said I was.

Bravery, I don't see her.

So content week at the toast is coming to an end, but not without one more fabulous fucking episode.

We've got dear.

We've got Summerhouse Recap.

Jackie and I got in bed together last night with a couple of sweet treats and watched the reunion.

And a couple of sweet boys.

The boys were there.

The treats were there.

We really needed a live stream on this because we had commentary on every single thing everyone said.

And I'll try to remember all of the strong thoughts that the episode elicited.

But like, did you not feel that it elicited strong emotions?

I did.

We kept pausing to like have conversations.

And yeah, Jackie made a great call.

We needed like a people's couch live stream because we were just.

Like every single one's like, we're like, liar.

Yeah.

No, we were really being crazy.

It was really good.

It was good.

And then we also have Queenie and Weenie of the Week, our final segment of the week where we dole out the awards of Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week.

And I'm excited for that.

Yeah.

Excited for that.

And then, of course, the Fast Five and catching up with the girlies.

But I fear content week is coming to a close.

I would say, you know, we contented a little too close to the sun.

I feel like every time I come down here, we focus really hard on getting Patreon episodes out.

Yeah.

And this week we were like so focused on getting TikToks and reels out, we didn't film any Patreon content.

It's true.

I have a Patreon up my sleeve that I would have filmed this week, but you were here.

So I'll film my...

I'll film.

No, but I mean, it's evergreen, sort of.

Actually, it's kind of timely.

You guys kind of deem it like ASAP.

Right.

Also, I am going to this month do my sourdough redemption episode, but I don't want to put the cart before the horse.

I've had two successful sourdoughs, but I think I'm getting the hang of it.

And yeah, we were just kind of going viral.

Like, don't mind us.

Don't mind us, though.

There was a lot that needed to be packaged into content around here.

You know, you kind of came in with your list.

No, with your like third person POV of like what's going on in my house.

Yeah.

And you needed to show the people because I can't see it from the inside.

I'm too in it.

A lot of people say to me, you know, Claudia, the the question I always get, if you weren't doing this, like, what job would you be doing?

And after this week, like, I would want to be Jack Yashre's social media manager.

I think I would be so good, first of all.

And yeah, I think it would benefit like everyone.

So that's the, I officially have an answer to that question.

Like, I think my life would benefit from a social media manager, but I couldn't just hire anyone.

The reason why I don't have one is because like at present, there's no one who can do it better than me, but I feel comfortable saying, like, you're hired.

Yeah.

I think I could bring a lot to the team.

I think it's my personal assistant, just like overall, like home.

Like you're so like great.

and I don't want that job, but executive assistant?

No, I like the episode.

I don't want to be like picking up your laundry and saying.

No, no, you don't have to do laundry, but like playing with the kids.

That doesn't fall under social media manager.

No, that falls under anti, and I wouldn't accept a dollar for it.

And you wouldn't do it as my executive assistant.

Well, if I bake it into the role.

If I'm being salaried.

Like 30 minutes of

30 minutes of akuna matada.

It doesn't feel right to, I would have to do it on my lunch break.

Like it doesn't feel right to accept money.

Understood.

Oh, speaking of, I've read a ton of novels I'd like to share with the class.

I read, I read a couple more this morning.

And now you know why I thought it would be a good idea for a Patreon episode last month to do a book review of children's books because there's so much to talk about.

You did bring that up and I was seriously like, I laughed in your face.

I'm like, no.

But I actually have been doing that every day this week.

Okay.

Yeah.

Great idea.

Yesterday I read a book that I feel like I knew in my bones.

One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.

And I actually

did not finish it.

It was a DNF.

It was a DNF.

It's such a piece of shit.

Shite.

It makes literally no sense.

It kind of feels like it was written by a schizophrenic.

Like it's really, I don't know what the message, there was no message because there was no plot.

There was no character development.

Like it was a piece of shit.

Yeah.

Then I read Brown Bear, Brown Bear, where do you go or whatever?

What do you say?

And let me tell you, it was repetitive.

And I think it was a little below my reading level.

I think it's for like real babies.

For sure, but repetition is good for children.

With that in mind.

So while I didn't love it, I understood it.

Like I, we saw each other.

You understood its purpose.

It has a place in the literary ecosystem for the children.

And then today I read the Sneetches and other tales.

So the other tales, throw them in the garbage.

Okay.

Let's talk about the Sneetches at present.

The Sneetches itself, I loved.

A rhyming and the mind.

The significance, the message, the animation, the story of the Star Belly.

Sylvester McBean and his monkey machine.

A a story of capitalism a story of supply and demand

a story of trying to fit in when you're born to skin out a story of we're all the same on the inside I liked it a lot whether we have stars upon theirs or none upon theirs then there were a couple of other stories in the back now I didn't love the one with the pants and the lady who had a bunch of kids named Dave but I did like the one about the Zacks.

And I giggled at the last page when the Zachs didn't move, they built the highway over the Zach's.

Like, that's funny.

That's funny.

Now, I would really ask that you please don't leave comments saying well did you know dr seus was an anti-semite racist like i'm sure he was

i'm sure he was but the books are good and i'm holding space for true truths and i don't and the books are in my life not his like personal opinions and what it like politics i the thing is like without the internet i wouldn't even know that i would just have the books and i think we would be better off honestly like because i'm not over here like starting a Dr.

Seuss fan club, but yeah, I might start a Zach's fan club.

I've already started a Sneetches fan club.

You are the president of the Sneetches fan club.

There is actually a spin-off called Counselor Snitch.

Yeah.

Counselor Sneech.

By the way, maybe that's the next book, the next iteration.

Counselor Sneech.

Counselor Sneeches?

I'll think about it, but I already got it up my sleeve.

I already know what Camber's doing next summer.

It's so exciting.

So yeah, that's what I read.

We played pickleball last night, just kind of hitting our activity goal, left, right, and center.

Rush my activity goal.

Oh, chill.

What's your calories for today?

How many did they tell you to burn?

400.

450.

What you want me me to do.

So I'm going to have to go to the gym.

Yeah, that's rough.

Well, now that I'm leaving, rip, you have all the time, you know, back.

And I will say, bringing this conversation full circle, we absolutely slayed the house down boots on our diet slash health journeys this week.

Like, right?

Right.

No, I didn't do one thing that I wouldn't have done in terms of eating.

Maybe that bag of pretzels last night during summer house, 100 calories.

It's fine.

You're fine.

I almost went and got us frozen yogurt to like celebrate how good we were in our diets.

But I didn't want to be a bad influence on you, you know?

Yeah, no.

So you're welcome to come back anytime knowing that we can do it together.

We can do it.

Together, we're stronger than ever.

And we hit our activity goals and we played pickleball and

goals were met.

It's been an amazing week.

I hope you guys had an amazing week.

And if you didn't, it's over.

So like we can all be happy.

Like Friday is truly the great equalizer.

For sure.

Oh, sorry.

I thought you were saying like, I hope you guys had an amazing week, like watching us have an amazing week, you know?

They have lives too.

I thought you meant like enjoying content week because people have been loving content week.

Of course, they loved content week, but it's for them.

And it genuinely pains me to say this, but like, you know, people who listen to the show, like, they think about other things besides us, which is devastating.

I thought you were just saying, like, I hope you guys enjoyed this week.

Oh, I know what we've done.

I know that they did.

From what we've put out, from our port.

I know.

I don't even need to say it.

Like, I know.

I know we play in their lives.

No, we crushed it.

I would love to make one more TikTok before we go.

And we still need to finish that one.

I know.

And if you don't let me, I'm posting the one that you don't like.

Fair.

Okay.

It's not that I don't like it.

I just think we could do better.

Okay.

So we have that one.

And I think I need to think of one more because like so much virality.

I need to take.

Yeah.

Oh, and speaking of content, we did our photo shoot yesterday.

We did.

Oh my God.

In the 80-degree weather.

Like I seriously was going, I like felt nauseous afterwards, but we got the shot.

We got the shots.

Photoshopping soon.

Just stay tuned for that.

We have new merch coming this month.

And like,

I just,

I'm speechless over it.

It's so sickening.

Yeah.

No, the photos were like kind of like everything.

They were.

So we won't teach too much.

You'll see it all next week.

And before that, we've got the fast five.

We've got Weenie of the Week.

We've got Romeo.

We've got Bronio.

We do have them.

And so far, Ro I don't want to jinx that.

I was going to say it.

Is up for the job.

Oh my God.

And that's a perfect segue because do you know who the sponsor of today's show is?

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So.

He took out an ad.

Oh.

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Thank you, the turd.

I don't know if I love that.

I'm not going to lie.

Because people are always like, doesn't it bother you that your like nickname is duty?

And no, I never associate it.

But putting the the really points to the duty like, you know, relation.

And I don't like it.

Okay.

I was just riffing off the toast.

No, I know.

You love to riff, but you riffed a little too close to the sun.

Okay.

But also I can't go with turtle.

You're putting me in a lot, setting a lot of boundaries for me.

And you cannot put Jacqueline Folet in a boss.

You can't.

I'm sorry.

You know what?

I take it back.

Do your thing.

I'm feeling boxed in.

Do your thing.

Are you ready for our first

like if i'm being honest no but sure it's no you're ready for this one because it's some music news that's so exciting for us and fans of good music everywhere what is kelly clarkson doing luke combs has announced he's dropping a new album next friday so in a week from today and it's called fathers and sons and you know it's in celebration of father's day next weekend and it's all about Fathers and Sons.

His first single, The Man He Sees in Me, is out now, but the rest of the songs include these songs.

Front door famous, in case I ain't around,

hunting by yourself, little country boys,

whoever you turn out to be, remember him that way, the man he sees in me.

All I ever do is leave, plant a seed, ride around heaven.

My old man was right.

Take me out to the ball game.

No, I seriously, I'm prepared to kill myself.

I'm going to cry just reading the track list.

And let me tell you what's so fabulous about this.

Obviously, New Luke Combs' music is amazing.

Two, I love that he only gave us a one-week lead time.

That's like a thing with the music industry.

I'm just, I can't get on board with like the three-month promo for an album.

Or like album drop today, like

you didn't get

too much warning or zero.

And I don't even like the zero warning because like I do need to prepare.

Yeah.

I need to clear my schedule.

But also, I feel like we're at this really interesting inflection point in country music.

When you think about like the big, biggest, you know, stars, I think about like, you know, Morgan Wallen.

I think about Zach Bryan.

And I feel like they're all really like TikTok-y and like Gen Z and they're all kind of fighting for that audience.

Whereas Luke is just like over here, like embracing his millennial nature.

And fatherhood obviously is a huge part of that.

And I don't know, I just love that he's just kind of like on his own level.

Yeah.

No, he's not running that race.

And even though it's good to have TikTok success, like there are other people, there's actually more people

that are, there are more people in the population who aren't Gen Z than there are Gen Z.

And they deserve good music, too.

Yeah.

I'm so excited for this.

Me too.

It feels like it's going to be emotional.

Yeah.

And any song Luke has written about parenthood or about his parents

literally always makes you cry.

What's the one?

Take you with me.

Take you with me.

Even though I'm leaving, which is like about his dad.

A little bit four leaf clover is like about his family life.

Five leaf clover.

Anytime he like even references in a song like parenthood or his parents, like i'm not okay yeah and he has this way of just putting words to these feelings we all feel but we don't know like we don't know how to say it you know i'm really looking forward to this and it

yeah me as well and i hope for you guys as well and i just i just love you know yeah everything

he does is just better than the last it's true and it's like it's literally too much emotionally i was just listening to because i'm i've like have this really this dearth of music, like I just don't have what to listen to right now.

So I've been listening, I was listening to my top songs of 2022.

Not last year, like

year before.

It just came up on my Tesla homepage on Spotify.

And it was all Luke growing up the first.

Yeah.

Growing up the first, middle of somewhere.

Like forgot that was my favorite song.

How run in your memory.

So good.

You know what I've been listening to a lot, weirdly?

I too feel a dearth.

Like, I don't know what to listen to.

So I've recently been like diving into Keith Urban's catalog because when we saw him at that Austin Country Music Festival, he had made such an impact on you.

Well, I forgot.

He finished with this song, Wasted Time.

And I was like, that's a song I used to listen to.

So I like knew a couple of the words, but I was like, I need to get back into that song.

And then I started just doing to the, this is Keith Urban.

And I've been running to a bunch of his music.

And that song, Wasted Time, like,

it's so good.

Yeah.

It's funny.

By the way, like, listen to the words.

It's funny how the best days of my life were all that wasted time.

Just like doing nothing with the people you love.

Yeah.

It's not, you know, going to the met gala like it's just the simple things i'm a simple girl you are a simple girl i didn't know when we were both like watching keith urban that you were like having experiencing something yeah yeah i've been trying to remember like artists that i'm like go listen to when you're looking for something to listen to like gavin de grace yeah never misses for me he's he's timeless to me of course kelly and then like rascal flats and lady i've been doing a lot of lady a rascal flats is kind of where you go when you have nowhere else to go he's always there for us yeah i've been listening to so much of This Is Rascal Flats on my sonos.

So has Margo.

Yeah, I know.

She's talking about this story.

I was doing it before.

I just wanted to say that.

It's just weird to have this like dearth of music.

I feel like I'm always overwhelmed or it's like I'm not keeping up with what's new and there's so much to listen to, but I don't know, maybe because I'm a driver now.

You have all the time in the world.

Yeah.

It makes you think.

But I'm excited for this one.

Me too.

And just thanks.

Thanks, Luke.

He's so giving.

Truly.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Which is some exciting news for something about her her and kind of full circle.

Yeah.

Because Diane Keaton visited something about her, the place where Ariana Maddox and Katie Maloney named a sandwich after her.

Oh, I didn't know that part.

I just knew it was like Nancy Myers coded.

Yeah, both.

But there is a sandwich on the menu that's named after her, which I'm sure is why she went.

But because the...

restaurant was like inspired by Nancy Myers and that's so Diane Keaton coastal grandmother like it's very full circle now did she go because she watches Vanner Prump Rules or she's like oh there's this new sandwich shop with an with the sandwich um like does she know the larger context in the culture i'm sure i don't think she just popped into a sandwich shop whether her assistant watches or someone was like you need to go and take a picture like this will get headline news okay in a positive way for you i think it was because also katie's mom was there i'm sure it was like a big day diane keaton's coming i mean that is a huge day yeah who do you think are their other dream guests nancy nancy i think they also have the meg meg ryan

Okay,

right.

That's a sandwich on their menu.

I didn't know that either.

Let me look at the rest of their menu.

Let me think.

So funny because I, oh my God, grandmother with the loud iPad.

Wow.

See something about her menu.

What's so interesting to me is like the whole aesthetic of the restaurant, like Nancy Meyer's Coastal Grand, is literally the antithesis of Katie Maloney's very clear and specific aesthetic.

It's true.

Which is like emo night vibes.

Yeah, this is like very feminine and squirrely.

It's like the total opposite.

I never put that together until now.

So they have the Diane.

That's the first one.

Then the Carrie.

The what?

The Diane.

The what?

Diane.

I think it's pronounced the Diane.

I'm like, I think I pronounced Diane right.

By the way, if you're looking for music to listen to, you should go listen to Cam.

Yeah.

The Carrie, Washington, the Reese, as in Witherspoon.

Okay, what do these have to do with Nancy Myers?

Well, no, I think it's just like power, like great female actresses in a rom-com or a

or

yeah I don't know what rom-com Carrie was in she's scazy no it's Carrie with a Y so that's Washington not Carrie with an I that would be Russell yeah scandal but like scandal's not even

okay yeah agreed the Reese so she's like they would love for her to come through no for sure okay but um

Reese

she's just like a fabulous woman I think like leading ladies.

This is all leading ladies.

What are they?

Okay, okay.

Okay.

Can I say all the music that maybe they'll make sense to you as a group?

Yeah.

The Diane, the Carrie, the Reese, the Drew, the Kate, I believe as in Winslet,

the Viola, the Nancy, the Meg.

So just actresses, it appears.

Actresses, yeah.

But Katie and what's their obsession with actresses?

Like sandwich, like what?

I see it.

Like something about her was inspired by like romantic movies.

It was?

Yes, Nancy Meyers.

She makes movies.

Yeah, but it wasn't the movie.

It looks like a sandwich shop out of a movie.

Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right, you're right.

And then the sandwiches are actresses.

Got it.

Okay.

To me, I see it.

No, I get it.

I get it.

I get it.

Okay.

Cool.

Well,

that's very cool that Diane Keaton came.

It is.

And hopefully more will come.

What's your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

Hmm.

I have to Google it.

What's yours?

I mean, it's a toss-up because obviously the obvious answer is something's got to give.

And like, that's definitely up there.

But

it would be wrong to not say because I said so.

Yeah.

Morning Glory.

Oh, shit.

Morning Glory, of course.

By the way.

Even though it's like not Diane Keaton, but no, she's amazing.

She's the star.

A star.

A star.

She's a supporting actress.

Morning Glory.

Yeah, Morning Glory.

Also The Godfather.

Yeah.

I also, but she was actually annoying as fuck in The Godfather.

It's like she's always kind of annoying as fuck.

No, but she's like, so like, you're in the crime family.

It's like, yeah, get over it.

Get over it.

We'll kill people for a living.

Grow up.

Also, can't forget Baby Boom, one of my favorites as well.

And Father of the Bride.

Yeah.

Does she play the mom?

She does.

And I think I said this, but a couple of, maybe a year ago during chili season, I made a concerted effort to watch all the Nancy Myers movies I hadn't seen.

And Father of the Bride was was one of them.

And I, and this is going to ruffle a lot of feathers, but I said this already on the podcast, like piece of shit, piece of shit.

Like such a bad movie.

You, they actually didn't know that you could make me dislike Steve Martin, but here I was.

Well, I watched Father of the Bride when I was wedding planning.

I was just like looking for something to watch.

I was like, oh, I've never seen this.

And yeah, I didn't like it either because I didn't watch it like in the formative period in my life and when it was a good movie of the time.

I felt that way also about single wives, first wives,

and she's in that, right?

Piece of shit.

Yeah.

Jackie's right.

If you, there are movies like are, if you're our age, that like are a core part of who you are.

And if you don't watch them when you're young and impressionable, you watch it when you're old and like wise.

You will think it's like, I'm sure some of our favorite movies, if somebody our age were to watch it right now, they'd be like, that's literally like a bad movie.

Yeah.

Brats.

Well, no, you can't say that about brats.

That doesn't apply here, but yeah.

So, um, yum, she went to something about her sandwiches.

Yum.

Yum.

Our next story.

Pat Sajak bids farewell to Wheel of Fortune in the first look at his final episode.

Thank you for allowing me into your lives, he says.

It was all just a game at first to Pat Sajak, but then it became something much more meaningful.

The longtime Wheel of Fortune host's final episode, heading the game show, airs in just a few hours, and production has released a first-look preview ahead of the broadcast in which he expresses his gratitude to his audience.

Yeah, and I saw this clip of Vanna.

Like, it was nice.

I don't know.

Maybe it's because, I don't know, he's not dying or anything, but the way I feel like about Pat Sajak's departure and the way I felt about Alex Trebek's departure, now Alex Trebek was departing the planet and, you know, Pat Sajak is just departing the set, but I don't know.

I feel like this should be a job for life.

Like when I saw the headlines, his final episode, I was like, oh, right, rip.

And now, then I realized, like, no, he's just like moving on from the role.

Like, I don't, I feel like it's like the queen, you know, once you have it.

Same with Alex Trebek.

Like, the only reason to not show up for work is because you're dead.

Yeah.

It's a job for life I don't disagree

but and have they announced his replacement no I'm sure it'll be a whole rigor marole and they'll land with nobody what did they even end up doing on Jeopardy

Ken Jennings

and Maeem but I think no more Maeem I think it's Ken yeah it's so funny like how many hoops they jumped through just to not immediately give it to Ken Jennings because he had old tweets about like the disabled.

And I think they were also sort of like loving the attention and being like, who's it going to be?

We don't know, Aaron.

Aaron Rodgers.

yeah

maybe it'll be you and like just leaving crumbs for everyone it'll be you they just like didn't want to make a choice because then that would make the fanfare over but in turn they just made everyone disinterested they

the girl boss a little too close to the sun yeah they didn't know they overplayed their hand of interest yeah that's a that's a great point so hopefully they don't do that here but the obvious choice did they not say that it was gonna be ryan secrets i was gonna say what's ryan sea crest taking over for this pat

ryan secrest Seacrest, Wheel of Fortune.

We talked about so much like dumb, mindless news.

Like, it's really hard.

These shows are all the same.

Oh, yeah.

No, he has your.

Yeah, I didn't need that.

What is it?

Pop culture, Wheel of Fortune?

Like, no, staying in your life.

I'm ready for the pop culture wheel of fortune spin-off.

Totally.

Stay in your lanes because he has many.

Stay in your toy lanes.

I think what you mean is stay in your Lanez.

Stay in your Lanez, Ryan Seacrest.

Yeah.

I don't know.

So, but like, bon voyage to Pat.

I hope you enjoy your time off and whatever you choose to do next.

I know he like did the same job for 41 years and he showed up every single day, but like leaving now does feel lazy.

Yeah.

No, because he like wants to like play golf or tire.

Like you can do that, by the way, and still host your 25-minute game show.

It just seems like nobody wants to work these days.

It's so true, except Romeo.

Look at him.

He's like dying to work.

Gorgeous man.

By the way, how cute is Romeo?

Romeo's already clocked out.

Look at this face.

Now, like, now that I'm out of my, I'm really out of the grief.

Like, Romeo has truly brought me back to life like I'm so in love and he's such a good boy First of all, he looks so much like Theo, right?

And he also looks like Bruno.

He's so gorgeous.

He is a gorgeous man.

I love him so much.

Oh, bro.

I'm really happy.

Like for real.

And he's had the best time here.

And he's been so good.

And I can say this because I know my husband nor yours listens to the podcast.

I was thinking today when I took Romeo out for his morning dump, I'm like, my good boy didn't embarrass me.

He did not have one accident.

I was singing that last night.

In your house.

He's such a good boy.

I'm getting ready this morning.

Jackie texts me.

There's a poop in the guest room.

but better than a pee because it was on the carpet so yeah no totally fine and he's really been great the kids love him he's really been keeping them on their toes the kids love him they're like seriously they're like i want to play with romeo i want to play with romeo i'm like okay but don't start running because then he'll chase you and jump on you but their their idea of playing with romeo is running so they start running in the backyard romeo thinks we're playing he's running and then they're getting chased and they're screaming crying hey put romeo away put romeo away it's like you started with him and then you know what they say after that i love bruno no and then they say, I don't want Romeo to hurt me.

I don't want Romeo to hurt me.

And I'm like, well, you gaslit him.

So, but it's really made them appreciate Bruno for what and who he is and just being this like calm force in their life.

Yeah.

But then they also have this love and admiration for Romeo, who's like their new fun

games.

Yeah.

So there's space for everyone.

Oh, Ro.

Oh, Row.

Oh, Bruno pretending like he doesn't hear me.

Literally.

Literally.

Okay, ready for our next story.

um

major news for people who watch traders but yes the cast of the new season of traders came out and one person in particular has everyone in a tizzy sandival or sam ashkari samashkari we kind of knew sandoval was gonna be on traders right no isn't that what he was filming no that was that other show oh like fortune for armed forces what was it wait no i'm gonna get it hold on

like blank forces special forces got it yeah and then he also filmed traders and sam ashgari who's britney spears' ex-husband is also on the season he's like the only person there's like a specific resume you need to have in order to be cast on the show and it doesn't it's a peacock show but you they come from all different networks you know survivor big brother bravo of course the bachelor

most of them have been reality stars

all i'm sure there's been like one or two that aren't in some way honestly no i think the whole premise is that like i think it started started.

It's a reality show kind of competition.

Yeah.

So yeah, for it to be someone who's not in this space is weird, but for it to be someone who is literally married to Britney Spears is even weirder.

Yes, but page six is reporting why Sam Ashgari can't talk about Britney on The Traders.

They're told the actor signed a non-disclosure agreement years ago that bars him from going into detail about his marriage.

to Britney.

However, contrary to a new TMC report claiming that Sam is not allowed to say anything negative or positive about her, a source tells page six exclusively that there is not a complete ban and also points out that the model has publicly spoken about his former spouse since their divorce.

He had said it was a blessing to share life with someone for so long, people grow apart and move on.

But overall, he probably won't be talking about Brittany all day long on the show because he signed an NDA.

I happen to really like, I don't watch Traders actually.

I started it and it's just like,

it wasn't for me.

Not that means that it's bad.

It's just like, I'm not into like competition, whatever.

But I really like that it gives like a second life to reality stars because, you know, you can't be

the name on everybody's lips forever and there are so many i think like talented funny people who kind of like

just fade a little bit given the nature of reality tv so i love that it like reminds people how fabulous phaedra was like she really had a whole new career after um traders same with mercedes javid like i love that about traders so there are people on this cast who i feel are worthy of that sort of renaissance that the show gives um personally like i don't need more samishkari in my my life.

I don't need more Tom Sandoval in my life, but run through the cast and let's just give it a quick one over.

Okay, I'm on my way.

I'm on my way.

Okay, Trader Season 3 cast

is Bob Harper from The Biggest Loser.

Oh my God.

Okay.

Bob Harper, it's so funny.

I loved The Biggest Loser growing up, and I know like we live in times where that's just like not acceptable, but they need to bring that show back.

And it's crazy how Bob Harper

became like this king

because Jillian Michaels like is the woe.

Like she's always starting.

So now she's like anti-Ozempic.

So I'm anti-Jennifer.

Oh, is she?

Hugely.

It's lazy.

Like she's being crazy.

I mean, what do you expect from literally like Jillian Michael?

She seems like a nut, but like it's really making me hate her.

Oh, that's so interesting.

Then Bob the Drag Queen, who won season eight of RuPraul's Drag Race, Brittany Haynes from Big Brother, Brother, Chanel Ayan from from Real House Eyes of Dubai,

Caroline Wiger from Survivor, Chris,

Sierra Miller from Summer House.

Oh, yeah, especially after last night.

Especially after last night.

I hope she found love and is married from someone she met on Traders.

Maybe we'll find their name here.

Sama Shakhari.

Danielle Reyes from Big Brother.

Dolores Catania.

Real House Eyes of New Jersey.

Dorinda Medley, Real House Eyes of New York.

Dylan Efron, Zach Efron's brother for Sierra.

I could see it.

Gabby Windy from The Bachelorette.

Jeremy Collins from Survivor.

Lord Ivor Mountbatten, a British royal for Sierra.

Mountbatten?

Mountbatten.

Related to Philip.

Yeah.

And all of them.

That's really crazy.

That is crazy.

Nikki Garcia, formerly Nikki Bella.

Boston Rob Mariano from Survivor.

Robin Dixon, Real Houses of Potomac.

Tom Tom Survivor.

Discussed.

Tom Sandovals, Sam Ashgari, Tony Lachos from Survivor.

Wells from Bachelor.

And that's it.

That's a big deal.

Do people fall in love on this show ever?

I'm not getting that vibe.

It's only the third season.

And like everyone's of different ages.

I think there was a couple.

Who?

I didn't know either of them.

I'm on my way.

Trader.

From season two, Trader's Romance.

I think it was a girl from Love Island.

Or I'm like totally making this up.

Like sometimes I just like think of things like that didn't happen

love island no wait don't write love island that might with your traders romance couple right couple season

two

couple

peter weber love islands ikin sue yes yes yes yes oh wow i mean leave it to him

so cute

Okay, so maybe we'll have love this season.

I know.

That is so cute.

Okay, so yeah, Trader's season three.

like that sounds like a good cast.

Yeah.

Happy for the Traders fans.

Like they've been, you know.

Excited about this.

Yeah.

Lots of talk.

Lots of talk.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

A little culture news.

Yes.

Because Gen Z women are detailing the new craze for a boyfriend this summer.

You know, we used to have short king and then it was like, I'm looking for a guy in finance.

We're looking for this summer.

We're looking for a sexy rat.

Gen Z has spoken and the hot rodent man is in and they don't want him fumigated.

The concept of the hot rodent man man might sound foreign to anyone who has ever worn skinny jeans, but it is a term for young people.

Yeah, it's a term for young people used to describe a hipster.

A hot rodent man can also be known as a sexy rat boyfriend.

They want the hot rodent men and they're very vocal about it online.

Someone said hot rodent summer, rise of the hot rodent.

Now let me describe what a hot rodent or a sexy rat is.

Because I'm really getting over like coming up with

phrases and new words for things that already exist.

For sure, for sure.

We probably have our own word for it, but this is what Gen Z is calling, a sexy rat.

It is essentially a lanky man or someone more over someone more bulky.

So lank, not bulky.

So skinny.

Skinny.

It's someone with sunken eyes and pale skin that scurries around instead of walking with purpose.

Essentially, it's the opposite of a finance bro.

So Johnny Depp in the late 90s is a prime example of a hot rodent.

He wasn't Brad Pig.

He was still gorgeous, but he looked more afraid of vitamin C.

More sunken in, yeah.

It's Edward Cullen-coded.

It's a word to describe, but he's also like a little bulk.

I think he toes the line.

It's a word to describe someone who is not conventionally handsome, but still hot.

So while Chris Hemsworth is conventionally perfect, someone like Matty Healy would be a sexy rodent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know who else?

And I think a lot of people are talking about him.

Did you watch Serena Carpenter's new music video?

Please, please, please.

No, but I listened to the song and it's about Barry Kyogan.

Well, he's in, I don't know if it's about him, but he's.

Well, it's about an actor like.

that she's dating.

Like, please, like, be good, like, decent.

So he's in the music video.

Cute.

Like, imitating art.

Yeah, so it's like she gets, like she gets thrown in the junk tank one night and she like locks eyes with this like career criminal and she keeps bailing him out of jail and like they like in and they like ride around and he like keeps going back to jail and she's like, please stop doing bad things.

But she's always there to pick him up in a fur coat.

She looks so sick.

And a lot of people are like, oh, I get it.

I understand the Barry Kyogan of it all.

Like he was like this hot felon in the music video and people are like, I'm finally seeing it.

Like what Sabrina sees.

And I do think he might be a hot rodent.

You think?

He's a little bulky, actually.

He's not skinny.

I feel like the sexiest rodent that there is is Timothy Chalamay.

He's king of sexy rodents.

So I'm now here to understand like

rodent is just the opposite of my type.

Like I like conventionally hot, sunlit, you know, men who eat.

Yeah.

I think Travis Barker is a sexy rodent.

Yep.

Someone said.

You should want to date Stuart Little.

Okay.

Wait, this is so funny to me because I just saw this TikTok that I was going to send to you.

I think think this, Jeremy Allen White is a sexy rodent.

No.

And look at this picture.

He has rodent like, I think he goes into the sun.

He only has sunken in eyes, but he's beefy as hell.

Is he?

Doesn't he play in that show, The Beef?

It's not called The Beef.

By the way, did you see Ballerina Farm is pregnant with her eighth child?

What?

Yes, it came up on my TikTok today.

Eighth.

She posted a picture.

Two million views.

Eighth baby, heart.

And she looks like pretty far along.

Wait, that's Claudia.

She just gave birth.

Yeah, I'm aware.

Mrs.

USA.

Hold on.

Okay, and then you just remind me.

I wanted to play this TikTok forever.

It was so funny.

How are you breaking ballerina news to me?

Oh, yeah.

I've been in the trad wife home a little too long.

Claudia, she hasn't posted to her Instagram.

It's on TikTok.

Claudia, she hasn't posted on Instagram.

Are you sure it's not like her pregnancy announcement from her last baby?

Like, there's literally no way.

Okay, here we go.

Gaslighting me.

Ballerina Farm.

Oh, wait.

Like, I'm up on her cycle.

I realize this account account with 400,000 followers is called Ballerina Farm Fan.

I've hacked into her natural cycles.

I know she's not.

Okay, but wait, it's an eighth baby.

Yeah, that was when she just, that's her last baby.

Like, this is an old, they're just like recycling old content.

Oh, my God.

I'm so sorry.

That's okay.

Honestly, like, I wasn't ready.

Let me unfollow this fan account that spreads fake news.

It's not fake news.

It's just like out of time.

I wanted to play this TikTok.

My literal new favorite person, this guy Cameron on TikTok, he put to words so perfectly like how I feel about, what's it called?

Hot rodents.

While I'm on my hot horse complaining, let me say this.

Stop giving things that already have a name new names.

It already has a name.

Talk about something.

Oh my gosh, you guys, I have the best hack to stay organized.

It's called time blocking.

Bitch, you made a schedule.

This ain't nothing new.

You made a schedule.

No, I like I can't like strawberry girl summer.

Like stop.

Yeah.

Time blocking.

That's time blocking.

Like that's a perfect example of time blocking.

Like here's the hack it's literally just called writing things down to make a schedule right so what would you call the hot rodent bad tasting men no i'm kidding which we would say like hipster emo like it exists like skinny guys yeah

yeah so hot rodent summer having said that like i see i see what they're saying it's not my type but i'm glad that we have you know came coming up with a new word for it

And like, at least it was like different.

Like, like Short King Summer was like,

i think it was actually fall but sure it was like it was innovative like it was different like everybody has been clowning on short guys forever it's like no let's embrace yeah you know yeah but like this moody artsy like it's been done you know yeah it's been done

So that's what the kids are up to and those were the past five.

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All right, summer house first, correct?

Yes.

Oh, my God.

So overall thoughts, and then we'll get into specific conversations, is I feel as though the reunion so far is being mismanaged.

I agree, Jackie and I had like, we're taking so much umbrage with Andy's like bad line of questioning, his bad faith actor-ness.

Like I feel like he really came in wanting to like.

gotcha Lindsay.

Yeah.

And he was jumping all over the place.

I actually didn't even expect that we would get to Lindsay and Carl until part three.

That's usually what they do, just like with Sandoval.

But we like open with Lindsay and Carl.

Then he asks Sierra a question about Wes.

She gives an answer that obviously is leads to more questioning.

And he's like, we'll get back to it.

So it's like, why did you ask that one question to begin with at that time?

I feel like maybe it wasn't Andy.

I feel like it was edited poorly because like Andy's actually been known to be, you know, very good at his job.

And it did feel like there was just a, somebody would say something very loaded and we just left it hanging there.

And that's not really Andy's style.

He's kind of like a leech.

Like he'll go in.

So I feel like it was edited poorly because you were also remarking a lot of people are like planning on Danielle for her hair and makeup because it looks so crazy.

She people are saying that too.

Yeah.

Okay.

She's so poorly lit.

Yeah.

I don't think she was actually wearing that much blush.

I think like, seriously, there are shadows all over her face.

Yeah.

And a couple of people look like they're lit poorly.

Yeah.

I think the further away you are from Andy, the worse your lighting is.

So I think Danielle's is the worst.

Jesse Solomon had like a little bit of weirdness.

And Paige had also like a big shadow on her face.

Right.

And then everyone gets better from there.

The other side, because Gabby was on the end of the other couch and she looked perfection.

So Vega had that.

Gabby.

Yeah.

First of all, I feel like Gabby hasn't been like a real conversation

piece throughout this season.

I feel like she's kind of slipping through the cracks as just like Lindsay's mouthpiece.

And while she was being Lindsay's mouthpiece last night, she like, first of all, looked so insane.

Her body, like I died.

She really like came.

I don't know what her goal was, but she came to get airtime and she did.

And I thought she was spitting fucking fast.

Oh, I didn't even think she was

coming to get airtime sort of way because I didn't mean that negatively, by the way.

No, like, I loved everything that she had to say I feel like when it comes to someone's relationship there are things like sometimes it's emotional to talk about and like you need your friend to speak up for you like page and sierra page was technically being sierra's mouthpiece like good that's what a friend does and i felt i'm most happy for lindsay that she has a friend like gabby to do that for her because of course like danielle isn't gonna do that because she's more interested in like what the guys think about her.

But I felt, so the outline of the reunion was frustrating to follow.

We were jumping around a lot.

I felt like Andy's questions were like meant to be gotcha towards Lindsay because I do feel like he aligns himself.

When there's a show that is men and women, he really favors the men.

That's just a fact.

We've said it like since the beginning.

You can see it like on Southern Charm on Vanderpump Rules.

And he's like being buddy-buddy with Carl and Kyle.

But like Lindsay to me last night, like was completely on point in everything she had to say in her relation.

Everything she had to say, Perry.

The only thing that I need more clarity on is that thing with Paige and the photo shoot.

Yeah.

Like that makes me sad that they're not getting along because I really liked when they were getting along this summer.

And I just want to say, I'm sure there's more to the story and why they didn't show us more of that and they left it so confusing.

But like pretty much Paige heard from Carl this conversation he overheard of Lindsay.

He's like, one, Carl is a liar.

We saw that when he said

Lindsay wouldn't let Kyle be my best man.

Or two, even when he's not lying, he's so confused because he colors everything with his feelings on top of it.

Maybe he felt like he heard Lindsay saying she wants to sabotage your photo shoot.

Like Paige couldn't have just taken Carl's word because Carl's word needs nothing, but I know Paige is like, she probably didn't, but they didn't tell us anything the annoying thing is that Carl's word like still carries weight in the group even though and maybe it's just because we're watching it now like a year out like Carl is such a liar and when he gets caught when he got called out in a lie last night literally for the groomsman thing or even um the fight that they had that was interesting before they broke up on camera she came into that bedroom and was like Carl, why are we filming?

And they got into this huge explosive fight.

And he was like, yeah, I was very angry.

And he got called out again.

He, he got called out for being a liar so many times.

And then he just, his way of reconciling that was like, well, that's how I experienced it.

That's what my feelings were.

Yeah, that's how I felt.

Like, I, I, you know, Lindsay didn't say that Kyle couldn't be a groomsman, but I felt like she felt that way.

When it's like, Lindsay is fucking clear about how she feels.

She's not someone who's like passive aggressive.

If she needs to be, she's just straight up aggressive.

And so when she's like, that morning I asked, why are we filming?

You started shouting at me.

And he was like, you were shouting at me.

And he's like, no, no, you were shouting at her.

Why were you shouting at me?

Yeah.

And I, it was bothering me that like Carl's was, is still having an impact on like what page and like his words still it means nothing to me he's such a crazy liar and I think part of it is like yes he is lying because I do think he wants to make his fiancé look bad but I also think he lives in like a deranged like I think he's delusional I think sometimes he says things and he really believes them to be true oh yeah for sure like everything's like colored by his feelings which is why you just like can't take his word at face value so I don't know what happened with the photo shoot and Lindsay but I also feel like we saw this a year ago at the reunion where Lindsay's accused of something she said I didn't do it she doesn't offer proof to why she didn't do it or who did it instead but it just kind of sits there as this like

hindrance and this hindrance in her friendships.

And then the truth comes out.

So I'm kind of leaving space for that where it's like, I don't know what happened at this photo.

She'd be like, maybe it's, maybe we should believe Lindsay a little bit for a second.

Maybe there's, it's not exactly what she was accused of, just like with

an article about Craig being drunk at the wedding.

I'm so excited we're talking about that because first of all, Danielle is the worst person on this cast and she has been for a while.

But the fact that she, first of all, sat through last year's reunion where there was this whole conversation about Lindsay being accused of something.

And it's like, she literally did it.

And then last night she admitted that she did it.

How everyone doesn't run from her?

Like you're all in the public eye and one of you just admitted to being a leak, which is like the worst thing you can be.

Seriously.

Like you want someone like that around you.

You have to live in a house for a summer with that person.

Like to me, the fact that she admitted it was so crazy.

The fact that she had the absolute gall to be mad at Lindsay for throwing her under the bus when Lindsay wasn't even mad at her for letting Lindsay take the fall.

Right.

Literally Lindsay got dragged last season during the reunion.

And actually, I literally believed that she did it.

That's how like everyone was just like, you did it, Lindsay.

We know.

The fact that Danielle let her do that and had the absolute audacity to get mad at, like, seriously, I agree.

And why, why is it wrong for Lindsay to want to clear her name?

Everyone was like mad at her last night for that.

Right.

No, she should continue to have issues with Paige and just for Danielle.

And then Danielle, like, I feel a little bad for Danielle because like I feel like with these girls like she's a little out of her league in terms of like level of fighting and fighting and just like words

yeah and maybe that's why she gravitates towards the guys a little bit because it's just like a more casual environment where the bar isn't so high like every single one of them

at the end when paige was defending sierra was just like i'm deceased on the floor west like i'm sorry do you even get a season two why don't you take your new york times article and put it in the shredder and then make a duty on it because it means nothing at this point because paige just eviscerated you.

So when Paige said to Danielle, I don't hate you.

I just see you.

So I feel like Paige is just like on this level.

Lindsay is an alpha.

She knows how to argue.

She's on that level.

Sierra is so strong and so confident in who she is.

And I mean, Gabby was the same way and like just, just, she doesn't say much all the time.

But like when she does, like, you better be listening.

No, and she's, you might not agree with her, but then she says her side and you're like, oh, no, totally.

Yeah.

She's convincing.

Just Danielle like doesn't possess the vernacular that she thinks she possesses.

It's really true.

So it was just like painful.

Yeah.

That Craig thing like actually really bothered me.

And then for Danielle to say, well, I was waiting for you to bring it up to me.

Like, first of all, we all had a conversation about it.

And the time to speak about it was last year at the reunion, but you like sat in the corner and like cowered and let Lindsay take the fall.

So now that Paige knows it was you, it's on Paige to go to you and say something to you about it.

Like, what's to say?

I know the truth.

Yeah.

No, that's the thing.

Like paige doesn't really that's what she was saying she doesn't hate danielle she doesn't consider danielle yeah so why would i have a conversation like i literally don't even know you like it's not someone that paige cares about enough to even have the conversation i think that's what bothers danielle the most because paige having this big piece of information about danielle in the context of a tv show and not sitting her down to like it's like you're not a relevant cast member enough or not even a relevant friend enough for me to have that conversation.

And that probably hurts more than someone disliking you.

Yeah.

It's like, it's not, it isn't love.

It isn't hate.

It's just indifference.

And Danielle can be upset about that, but that's what she's doing to Amanda.

That's what she did to Amanda this season.

Not even because like when they were the two left in the conversation, she walked out of the room.

Like doesn't, she has those feelings about other people too.

So you can't even be mad about it.

Yeah.

I love that the first person to criticize Kyle Cook is Amanda Batula.

Like that to me is one of my favorite qualities about her because she's so level-headed and she's so fabulous.

And he's just like awful, like just an oaf and really just like

like mean too.

And he's always wrong.

and that must be tough because you know you want to be a good partner but you also want to be a good reality star and you also want people to know like you're not like that too so i love that when the groomsman conversation she chimed in at the end and was like by the way if you did say and i'm not saying that you did but if you did say i want kyle nowhere near this wedding like i would agree with you yeah thank you like she that fight was so stupid because she didn't say that but even if she did she would have been 1000 justified right and andy like being like oh well you just said she tried to say like gotcha no first of all i understood it when they spoke about it on the season.

Lindsay never said Carl, Kyle can't be this or that, but it was her idea that they be flower boys so as to include the summer house boys in the procession.

So then Carl takes it as Lindsay wanted you to be the flower boy.

Like, that is so misleading.

And it's actually like, okay, so you didn't understand it during the season.

And now she's explaining it again.

And Andy's like, so you did say.

I'm like.

Am I?

Are we all speaking the same language?

No, it was, it was really, that part was.

I was just going to be more clear.

And it's not even like Carl was contradicting her, being like, no, you said I couldn't have him.

She never, I'm sure she was just like, I want, like, Carl was like

all over the place.

I think she was like, I want you to be happy.

Do what you want.

Just hit nine.

I also think Lindsay was just like, so happy to be getting married because that's something she's like been vocal about wanting.

And you, you can't.

pick every battle like that.

And I think she's pretty good about that.

I think the one thing sticking point for her was like her husband's career.

And that's always going to be something we're going to have to talk about.

Yeah.

But everything else, she was really letting everything else go this season.

I know.

And I think people were like shocked by that.

but I think she was just like happy, even though the relationship like was not in a great place.

I think she like really loved Carl and was just happy to be getting married.

And yeah, they had problems, but she wasn't worried about it.

Like we were going to fix it.

Yeah.

And like these are our problems of today and relationships change.

And anyone's fortune could change on a dime.

He could have a great job.

And then this goes by the wayside.

And maybe we could go back to being the friends that we've been for eight years.

And I also feel like it's frustrating the reunion in hindsight because everyone's like, I'm so glad you didn't get married.

And because they're former fiancés, like they're saying really nasty things to each other, which is like proving why they shouldn't get married.

Right.

But if any other couple was having, like, if Kyle and Amanda wound up not getting married, we would have had the same conversation at that reunion, and he would have been like, I'm so glad you guys didn't get married, even though they clearly should be married, they are married.

And then if they were no longer together, they would be like saying really nasty stuff about that, each other, and everyone would be like, You see, you shouldn't have gotten married.

Yeah, but it's like it's only because you didn't get married.

Yeah, the last quarter of the reunion was so jaw-dropping.

West.

We got like an update on what happened between Sierra and West.

And while that was interesting to me, the absolute, like Wes from the get-go became just beloved by the audience, the New York Times, for not really doing much.

It was very classic.

Like a woman is out here doing so much.

You're like, could Paige be doing more?

Where's her spread, you know?

And Wes just like shows up and like has a mullet, looks a little different and acts funny.

And it's like, America's sweetheart.

And

to.

reach that level of like universal belovedness that people on that show had been have been like striving for for years to squander it so quickly and I was saying here like last week, let's see how he does second season.

He couldn't even hack a reunion without fumbling.

I've never seen such a fumble.

And what's so crazy is he like outlined his whole offseason to prepare for the season and the show.

And so he's clearly very conscious of how he's going to come off and very conscious of the fame and like looking forward to embracing the opportunities, which there's nothing wrong with that.

But that he would be so aware of all of it and then completely shit the bed.

No, and Paige said it best, like the fact that you made real life decisions decisions based on the cameras, like that speaks to like a real, like, uh, she didn't say this, but that's how I feel.

And I feel that way about all different, like not even just reality stars.

Like when you start living your life for how people are going to perceive it, because you have like a platform or whatever, like you have lost the plot.

You have completely given up.

And it speaks like a real, I think, moral depravity that you care more about what people think than your own happiness.

And the fact that he was, and the speech Siara gave about how she's like a little bit more traditional, she's not looking for notches in her bedpost.

Like sex to her, like is a big deal.

It was so groundbreaking.

Like, because we live in a culture where it's like, and it's, it was, I think it was born out of like, you know, you shouldn't be shamed for having multiple and, but then it was like, if you, if you aren't, you know, sexy and out there like that, it's like, what's wrong with you?

And there's not really like a platform for women who are more reserved sexually and traditional in that sense.

And, and for Sierra to be out there looking so sexy and saying these things, I was, I seriously, I was like, I was really moved by it.

Yeah.

Because nobody says that.

It's not like cool to be like virginal not that she's a virgin i also feel like in the culture it's it's two extremes like either you're a celibate virgin colton underwood on the batch or virgin virgin or you know i'm liberated and and this you know i'm free and there's not really some people or a lot of role models in the middle who are like yeah i'm modern but i'm traditional in a lot of ways and i thought she made her feelings and herself so understood and i didn't know that about her right i didn't know that about her either but like why would we and it also really bothered me that Andy kept like ask.

And now we know this about her.

And we know it from the whole season.

And Andy's asking if they've had sex.

Like, this is national TV.

Like, this girl clearly, it was a huge deal for her.

Like, we can all surmise

that they did have sex.

But, like, to make her talk about it and admit it, like, just felt so unnecessary.

And it's like, are you not hearing her when she says that she has this boundary?

Yeah.

Like, why, why do.

Everyone in the cast is held to this standard of, or should be held to the standard of like, what, uh, Jesse Solomon shouldn't have asked her that night and he shouldn't have.

But Andy, like, you're the the adult in the room why are you asking her we fucking know no it's true like they dated and i was really surprised to hear like the lengths at which they dated like going home to the farm meeting the parents going to a wedding together the brother and

i can't believe they did all that even not being like

defined as boyfriend or girlfriend yeah and to me like west I feel like maybe it was a clip from like Vile Files where they were talking about him, his, him on the season.

They were like, he's like the modern man, like this guy who's like fun and this and that.

And he likes, but he won't really commit.

And like,

and I feel like he is that and it's such a negative thing like he's just there to have fun like grow up like how old are you what have you done like make a choice like this is a good woman like if he's

if he's if he did want to just have fun whatever that's like fine but sierra sharing that they had that conversation offline uh off camera uh after the horseback riding thing being like listen if you do just want this to be like a summer fling fun whatever just like i'm totally fine with that but like just let me know now like this is the time and he said no no because that's because he still wanted fun with sierra and so i jesse solomon's point of being like he was seeing it out and like you can't just like have fun at no expense like when there's people involved in people's emotions especially someone who's been very clear about like their boundaries their boundaries and and

not wanting to like fall into something that she's not gonna be able to come out of and so just to like do everything for the sake of fun like seriously grow up like we're grown-ups these are people's real lives and like at a certain point relations matter

no and it's like you can't just have fun with someone and fuck around be somebody boyfriend, girlfriend.

I don't know what we are for the rest of our lives.

Like, you and to do that for five months total is way too long to be with each other every single day and still and meet the parents and go to the wedding and still say, well, I don't think we were boyfriend, girlfriend.

Like,

yeah, you were.

Yeah, no, that was weird.

When people can't recognize, it's like, that's called a relationship.

And by the way, it is fun.

You think, you think we can't be in a relationship because you want to have fun, but like this.

How much fun did we have at that point?

This fun is the relationship.

Yeah.

I just feel like it's such a

symbol of like modern dating and how like it's gotten really dark.

Yeah.

And just everyone's interested in having fun.

Like not everything is supposed to be all fun all the time.

No, and the like PR for relationships being boring and bad.

No, they're, that's what Sierra was saying.

Like it's fun.

Yeah.

Um and they could have just done more of this.

And so then him saying that he broke up with her because for watch parties.

For watch parties.

I still didn't understand at all what he was saying.

Do you?

I think what he was trying to say, I don't know what he means in his heart, why he actually broke up with her, because I think it had more to do with like, I want to have fun.

I think he's commitment phobic for sure.

But I think what he wanted us to understand is like, he felt like when the show came out, he would be doing like watch parties and stuff.

And if he was with Sierra, then like someone might say, oh, he had his arm around me at the, it would cause all this like drama for him to be like a public figure in a female space while he has a girlfriend.

But it's like, Bravo has been going on.

This show has been going on for what, seven years.

Bravo's been doing this for 20, 15 years.

Like everyone goes to watch parties plenty of people are in relationships and paige was like you're talking to the wrong audience we all understand amanda was like kyle goes to lever boy parties all the time like you're seriously putting the car before the horse bro and if you're really worried about like the watch parties don't go don't go to the watch party when he said watch party i was like i feel sad no i seriously thought i was like do i not understand English?

Like, I literally did.

I know he was speaking, but he wasn't saying anything.

Like, I was so confused.

It's really like, it's a case study.

It's one of the biggest fumbles like of the century.

It's shocking to me.

And we were just remarking last week.

It's like, we all love West.

Even the New York Times love West.

And we were like, but why?

And I remember saying, like, when he was saying he's still sleeping, like texting other people, like, I hate that shit.

Just like be with one person.

Like, why is that a big deal?

And it really, it, that was clearly like a microcosm of what was really going on.

Yeah.

And like, I hate.

Yeah.

And I think we all liked West.

And it was just like Jesse Solomon was saying, and he wasn't saying it about Wes, but when Andy was like, why do you think you had a harder time coming into the house and with the viewers?

They didn't, people really didn't like love him until a few episodes in.

And it was because Jesse's just like out here on his own, like standing on his own personality by himself.

And he has a really good and big personality, but not even as good and big as Wes.

Plus, Wes attached himself to someone who is really beloved in the house and among the cast members.

So of course, we like Wes too.

I like Sierra.

I like her man.

Yeah.

No, I love Jesse Solomon.

He's making Sierra happy.

We're seeing a side of Sierra that we haven't seen in so long, especially after the heartbreak of Austin.

Like redemption.

Agreed.

But we didn't realize like we like Wes because we like Sierra.

So now when Sierra doesn't like you, we don't like you.

Yeah.

No, and I just loved Paige in that moment.

Yeah.

Because it's hard to verbalize exactly like when you're so upset and like your emotions take over, but she was probably there for all of it.

Right.

And also like, I don't think Sierra, like she said, she didn't want him to see her cry.

Like, I don't think she wants to give him, like, some people, they think the more you, they, the more you cry and like the more you sling accusations and like, you know, are sad that's winning and people feel that way but like sierra is the type strength she like sees strength as being victorious and like i'm not going to give him like all of my sadness and let him know how much i care but paige knows and like paige will say it but it isn't a reflection on like sierra and i thought the two of them just like we needed the the facts from paige and and the feelings the feelings from sierra and like i got the picture and wes like seriously don't come back next summer no and i think it goes without saying that the universal queenie of the week is sierra Yeah.

Like that little monologue was so it was empowering.

It was like a rosie derivator.

Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up, Kyle crying.

Was he crying or did he like have an itch in his eye?

I think he was tearing.

They cut to him twice, like going like this.

I think he was tearing.

It was emotional.

You know what?

Cause you know, I like absolutely loathe Kyle Cook with the intensity of 10,000 sons.

Like he's on my list of enemies, two people.

Right, right, right.

Well, you have to take all that stuff out of it too and just recapping the show.

But I can't watch the show.

Even if he does something on the show that like is objectively funny, like I personally can't see it because I'm blinded by hatred, like deep, deep.

From a Spritz stuff or something?

Yes, of course.

Not even a Spritz stuff.

Calling my husband shady.

Like seriously, till the day I die, I will despise you.

Why did I start talking about that?

Oh, right.

So I just see everything he does for like who he really is, which is a piece of shit.

And so I see through everything.

Like he's not funny.

He's not friendly.

Like he's an ass.

So I don't think he was crying.

I don't think he's really capable of like genuine emotion.

Oh, interesting.

Also, that's not about him.

Got it.

Starting off the episode about the mullet and like whether or not we're going to cut it.

Like, are you fucking serious?

How low is the bar for entertainment?

No, and it's like, we have a season here.

Like, can you stop?

No, it's true.

And like, we have a season here due in no part to Kyle Cook.

So like, why are we starting with Kyle, making him the star?

It's not about him.

It's about Lindsay.

I care less if he cuts his mullet off or not.

Like, seriously, I don't care.

Don't care.

But you're right.

That point, that's like harks back to what you were talking about.

Like the true unbridled favoritism from Andy in in these shows like vanner from rural southern charm that have blended casts yeah it's unfair it is and are redoing wes weenie weenie wes claudia yeah of course there's like by the way it's the four w's weenie no sorry it's the three w's weenie wes watch party of the week

weenie week wes watch party the watch party oh my god it was painful a train wreck for him and i'm so looking forward to part two yeah me as well And I guess that's everything

from the re like, and that's what you missed, Anglay.

It was a trademark.

Like, I loved every minute of it.

Like, seriously, it was so good.

Yeah.

Oh, wait.

When Paige, no, Paige, like Paige was, Paige and Lizzie are the thing or Sierra too.

No, okay.

I don't know who's tied for first, but.

Of what, your favorites?

Who slayed the reunion?

The hardest at the reunion.

But when Paige said,

you're writing in our group chat, this is the highest rated season.

The viewers are loving it.

Like,

in that moment, I think it really put into perspective how obsessed Wes was with what people thought of him.

Now, it's, as a reality star,

it's normal to have a healthy dose of concern about how you look and you definitely act a certain way.

But he's making decisions in his real life based on that.

He's obsessed watching the ratings.

Like, okay.

No, and she said, and like two people's lives are falling apart and like you're giddy over it.

Rest in peace to West.

Like, where does West go from here?

Because, how can he?

I feel like he'll come back to the house because, like, the producers will want him because it will be like him in Sierra.

If he doesn't come back, it'll be because he doesn't want to.

Like, he seriously got so much.

But he wants to.

Like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me.

He was in the nearby.

But he all he wanted was the love.

And by the way, up until now, it's been the best thing that's ever happened to him.

Yes.

Yeah.

Starting today.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I didn't even see like what people are saying.

What are people saying?

Hate.

Loser.

Yeah.

Um,

oh, but like, I don't know how he's gonna come into the house.

Like the girls are going to hate him on behalf of CR.

And they told him that they would hate him.

Maybe the, I guess he has Jesse.

He's gonna come back.

He's not like he's he's got the bug.

I can't wait for Partel.

Like truly.

Like the fact that he couldn't hide it better, his excitement for the like everyone's excited.

Tell your brother or whatever.

Like, yeah.

No, and I forget the word that she used, but it just, it really, it spoke to like a lack of, oh spatial awareness like not reading the room like not being emotionally intelligent This is our real life in addition to a reality show for you.

It's like this part you're playing.

Yeah

Loved it.

Mm-hmm

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