Institutional Suspicions: Monday, June 3rd, 2024

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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the chose and happy Monday.

Ah, you know, like there's no getting around it.

It is what it is.

Let's face the facts.

Yeah.

Turtle squirtle.

Look at it this way.

Every Monday is one step closer to us being together for our summer of love.

Summer loving.

Had me a blast.

So true, actually.

Yeah, I guess we have to get through today.

And also, it's June, which means like it's the month that we're doing like our first set of live shows.

Like, Like, not me being nervous.

It's coming up.

So, our first shows are June 27th and 28th at the Beacon Theater.

They're sold out, so don't even try.

But people are so excited.

Like, so many people are like, are you so excited for the shows?

Like, I'm coming to show or my friend is coming to show.

Like, everyone's talking about the shows.

I'm like, yeah, I'm excited, but like.

I can't be just excited.

Like, we also have to perform.

We have work to do.

We've got work to do.

So it is a lot of fun and games, but not all fun and games for your girls.

All fun and games for you guys who are just there to have a good ass time.

Yeah, I ran into like probably 45 toasters this weekend and every single person was like, we're coming, we're coming, we're coming.

So it's kind of the talk of the ton, if you will.

Yeah.

And yeah, we have, um,

we, you know, we have to do the work so we can't just like enjoy it.

Speaking of the ton, yesterday I was talking to someone and she goes, you know, you look like that girl from Bridgerton.

And I'm like, which one?

It's important.

Yeah.

And she couldn't get the name.

And I'm like, I need to know which one before I leave.

I didn't have my phone on me.

I couldn't start Googling.

She had only seen like one season.

She couldn't like put her finger on it.

She's obviously talking about Daphne.

All's to say, we got to the bottom of it.

She was talking about Daphne.

So generous, so sweet.

It's so nice when people just...

And, you know, I always say, celebrity doppelganger is a dangerous game.

It could really hurt someone's feelings.

I was in dangerous waters there because I had no idea.

There's a lot of people.

There's a lot of people.

They all look different.

And I've never gotten, I look like anyone from Bridgerton.

So I didn't know who she was going to say.

You get Madeline Petch, correct?

Is that like the one?

Yeah.

Oh, let me just say, like, she was an older lady.

I was shocked she watches Bridgerton.

Right.

She certainly hasn't watched Riverdale.

Yeah.

I mostly get Madeline Petch.

I also get Jessica Chastain.

And now I get Phoebe Denever.

Love that for me.

By the way, I don't not see it.

Oh my God.

Thank you.

Speaking of Bridgerton,

I really watched so much TV this weekend.

Like the girl who's sitting in front of you, I'm so educated.

I know so much.

And the thing is, I'm feeling very suspicious of my institutions.

I'm having very little to no faith in, you know, the banks, the government.

I don't know.

I watched The Big Short.

I have a lot of thoughts, thinking of pulling all my money out of the bank and putting it under my mattress.

Yeah.

Then I watched Chernobes.

Thankfully, I don't live in the USSR or that region.

So

I

like I can't apply that to my situation.

But you know, a government is a government.

I could totally see America doing like similar shady shit.

So I don't know.

I'm feeling very suspicious of my surroundings today.

Yeah.

Did you like those pieces of content that I've been begging you to watch for years?

I also shut up.

Watch.

Wait, no, I'm asking you.

Yeah, yeah.

Wait, I'm going to go through all of them.

So I started with Pearl Harbor, which I told you I had wanted to watch.

Have you seen it?

I have.

And it's like drama.

Yeah, so it's not.

It's like a soap opera.

It's not truth.

It's historical fiction.

Like, yes, Pearl Harbor happened, but these people like didn't exist, nor did this love triangle get out of the way.

It's very swirly.

It's not very serious.

It was extremely good.

The love triangle, I was obsessed with.

And I also don't remember a time.

I probably wasn't socially conscious to remember a time where Ben Affleck was that hot.

Oh my God.

Yeah, that's why we still talk about him today.

You know, that's why he's so such a big thing.

No, it makes sense.

Like.

Oh my God.

Like, seriously, I don't know if I've ever seen someone so hot in my life.

Like, he's hotter than Harry Styles back then.

Like, I seriously, I don't know.

He's just like so all-American looking, very chiseled-jaw.

He had this sort of like lighter hair.

Oh, my God.

I was like, really, I've never once thought much about Ben Affleck, like, from like a handsome perspective.

To me, he's just always been this guy, you know, with his coffee.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I totally get it.

Kate Beckensale.

Oh my God.

Like, so gorgeous.

Howie Biden knew.

But I did feel like I found myself Googling a lot.

They didn't do a good job of like explaining because I still don't understand like how Japan was involved in World War II.

It was like seriously like they were begging for attention.

That's what it seems like.

Yeah.

Everyone's fighting.

You're so desperate for attention.

It's getting pathetic.

And so you just had to go kill 3,000 Americans because you wanted some attention.

And the way they did it was hella duplicitous.

Like, now you're pretending you're in peace negotiations while you're planning this mass-like, that's a violation of international law.

So I don't know.

I left it feeling like, oh, okay, I know I'm a little late, but still mad at Japan.

And then having watched Oppenheimer recently,

having watched, and then also having watched

hand in hand.

In Chernobyl, they kept comparing it to Hiroshima, which is I think like, you know, up until that point was like the worst radiation the world had ever seen.

And then Chernobyl was like, hold my BRB.

So all the things I watched were interconnected.

I did watch.

As we are as human beings throughout history.

I learned nothing other than the fact that Ben Affleck used to be extremely handsome.

And Josh Hartnett, too.

I'm not like a Josh Hartnett girly, but I see it.

Then I watched the big short the next year.

You learned nothing from Pearl Harbor.

Nothing.

Okay, because it just sounded like anything, I was left with more questions.

It just sounded like you learn nothing in general.

I'm like, that doesn't sound right.

Okay.

No, I learned nothing from Pearl Harbor.

Like, I need to watch another movie about Japan, like, or read a book.

I'm still not understanding.

Like, how did we get here?

Like, seriously, who are you?

Like, who are you in all of this?

Yeah.

Then I watched The Big Short, which I had started once on an airplane and I remember thinking it wasn't good, but like, I was on an airplane, you know,

obviously

in a bad mood.

And again,

I was alive.

I was in the eighth grade in 2008.

Like I remember like, you know, things were different, but I don't obviously, I wasn't a person with a bank account.

So I didn't really know, you know, the true effects of the situation.

So let me tell you that shit was fucked up.

Like again,

I don't know.

I'm feeling very wary of my financial institutions.

I thought the movie was great.

I thought they really, really did a good job of explaining something that was super complicated.

Like, obviously, I don't understand

CDO, credit debt.

But then they have like Selena Gomez, like at the card table explaining it in layman's terms.

Margot Robbie in a bathtub.

Loved.

And it actually, I didn't like fully understand everything, but I got the gist.

I thought everyone did such a great job in the movie.

Like obsessed with Steve Carell.

Like, I know I'm so late.

Like, I'm literally recapping like Oscar Rainy movies from 15 years ago.

Loved it.

Like, seriously, loved it.

And I guess, you know, me and Ben were having this sort of like ethical question that it poses at the end is like, there were like five or six people who benefited greatly financially from the downfall of the housing market, which literally ruined like millions of lives.

But like,

first of all, even if they had like told the world, no one would have believed them.

Nobody did believe them.

No one was believing them.

Two, them like benefiting greatly, like, did it hurt people more?

Kind of, I guess, because the banks like then had to pay out these people.

I don't think it hurts

paying out someone's pension.

I

don't think so.

And then the thing that really pissed me off as a taxpayer, which, you know, I have this sort of, you know, enraging moment once a year, but seeing it played out

in Hollywood, it really bothered me.

So not only did this housing crisis like literally destroy people's lives,

the regular American, those regular Americans were then the people who saved these moronic banks who were like, literally, it's your job to figure out that something like this is going to happen.

So not only did you not figure it out, you were a part of it.

And to make sure that doesn't happen, but also they were being nefarious actors, like selling things as triple rating and then the the triple rating agencies the rating agencies right no i seriously am mad i'm feeling like maybe i'm not gonna pay my taxes this year everyone could eat my ass turtle squirtle no i'm kidding you guys that's obviously a joke irs i pay i overpay i just got my my I'm so afraid of going to jail.

But I don't know.

It's really not cool.

It definitely makes me think about moving to the Caymans.

Like, that's for sure.

Yeah.

Super for the beating.

I don't think they would pull that shit in the Caymans.

I don't know.

I couldn't say.

The only thing I I know about Cayman's banking is from the other woman.

That was the Bahamas, but okay.

Tax-free banking.

Yeah.

Then I watched Chernobyl last night because I put something on my Instagram.

Like, guys, what should I watch?

I'm into this whole vibe of watching things based on true stories.

Did Bruno enter the room?

Bruno's here.

I didn't realize I left the door pushable.

Bruno, you want to check it was subconscious.

You always leaving space for Bruno.

No, it was subconscious.

Bruno heard us talking about financial decline.

He said, hey, you got anything?

We need to tell a story.

He has a story to tell.

So actually, a bunch of people had recommended Chernobyl, you included, like a million years ago, but then Snookie wrote Chernobyl.

I was like, oh, wow.

Sometimes it's the same message, but a different messenger.

A thousand percent.

And after the first episode, I definitely didn't want to keep watching it because it's so grim and it's not like fabulous in any way.

And everything is just gray.

The buildings, the clothes, people's skin, like so gray and morose.

I mean, men were like, oh my God, this is so depressing.

But we had already put in an hour and everybody's like, it's so good.

It's so good.

It's so good.

No, it was good.

And again, something I really did not know about and learned a lot, of course.

Oh my God, that shit was upsetting.

Like, seriously.

And then I went on to, and at the end, the best part of it was the end with the black screen and the white text where you learn what really went down.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah, when they cut to the chase.

When they cut to the chase.

And basically, like the USSR, you covered the whole thing up.

And they basically, to this day, say that only 31 people died from Chernobyl, which is like obviously not correct.

And then I went on Wikipedia

and literally Wikipedia still says 30 people died isn't that crazy

excuse yeah like maybe 30 people died at the the site

I don't know I just feel like that's misleading extremely like and it's at the top where they just like sum everything up for you you know yeah

so yeah I just feel like there's still a Chernobyl cover-up going on And don't you find that one of the common threads through most of the things that you watch, not Pearl Harbor, really, but a common thread in a lot of these things is that the people who see these things early on, who see the truth, are called the crazy ones.

Same with Titanic, the people who thought it was going to sink and got on the ships.

Well, that's true.

It's also like, especially with the big shorts that happened, you know, in our lifetime here in our country.

It's really hard not to like become really crazy and like paranoid.

Like seriously, because then at the end, they were like, okay, so the government

barred these CDOs, which were like these really fraudulent loans that were designed to destroy the economy.

And so obviously like they weren't allowed to be made anymore.

But then like a couple of years later, they like changed the name and just made like a different, and they're still being like given to people today.

So it's really hard not to become like super suspicious and like become Brad Pitt in that movie.

Like Brad Pitt became like super rich in finance, like saw the underbelly and left and like started growing his own seeds in Colorado and like not fucking

and not fucking with these institutions anymore.

So it's really hard because I feel like once you start like, yeah, no, seriously, I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to live in cash.

Like I'm going to have to live off the crude if I if I if I really look into things so I don't know it left me feeling hella suspicious I think it's good to have a degree of suspicion in your life don't just be trusting of things that you cannot see and people that you do not know a healthy amount of doubt I think is healthy yeah but of course it can't overtake your life you've got to live lottery

and I can't live I can't can I tell you why sure

Like a couple of minutes before my alarm went off this morning, I like flipped, you know, I always flip I flip them once I sick Boom pull my neck out.

In my sleep.

Oh man, I woke up with a horrible pain.

I literally think, oh, I have to look right because I can't look left.

I have been having back and neck trouble too.

Like I feel like my back and neck are constantly on the verge of going.

And it has to do with the way I'm sleeping, the position that I'm sleeping in.

I don't know what I'm doing.

I keep trying to be mindful.

I switched down to one pillow so that like I'm not at a weird angle.

But is this just, you know what I was thinking yesterday?

Like, is this just mean like getting old?

Like where you have creaks and things are out and things hurt and you wake up and you like, as you sit up, it just like all comes to pass.

Like, yes, when you're 50, like, we're not.

But maybe it's like even worse at 50.

And this is just the slow

decline.

You know, my knees have been hurting me too.

That's a runner's knee.

I know.

That's a sign of a runner.

It makes me feel like kind of like cool and special to talk about it and complain out like out loud.

Like me and Ben were walking.

I was like, oh, my knees for my run this morning.

Like, I need people to know.

People, at least you use your platform to let them know.

Yeah, let them know.

Let them know, sister.

How was your weekend?

My weekend was so wonderful.

We were really outside all weekend.

Like, I've got the sunburn to prove it.

I forgot to put sunscreen on my back.

I don't know how I forgot that, but I feel like when you have kids, it's like you're so worried about them wearing sunscreen.

Like, it didn't even occur to me.

Thankfully, sunscreen is in my skincare routine, so my face was okay, but the back got

a little red.

What can you do?

It's a sign of a good weekend.

I know it sounds like I spent a lot, like on my whole weekend inside based on what I watched, but that was just at at night, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

I was outside as well.

I went golfing on Saturday.

Oh, good, good.

And then at night, I read for the Redheads, Lady Tan Circle of Women.

You guys, this book is amazing.

Oh, my God.

It's a real quality book.

Transports you to a time and place.

We're learning things.

Like, I just keep highlighting things that I find so interesting.

I think I'm 60.

We're recording tomorrow.

I think I'm like 65% of the way through.

I'm like, should I finish this this afternoon or save it for the evening?

Like, I'm really enjoying it.

So, never too late to become a redhead.

Also, my friends were at Colgate reunion this weekend.

It's our 10-year college reunion, can you believe?

So I didn't want to bring it up because obviously I follow all your friends on social media and I saw like the weekend.

I didn't want to like rub it in.

Like, why weren't you there?

I heavily considered whether or not to go and how to go and if I would bring my family.

And if I weren't going to bring my family, is that how I want to spend a weekend off?

No.

Yeah.

No.

And then I got the, I got recapped this morning and I, even though I was watching and like I had FOMO and it looked really fun, like I felt good about my decision okay yeah for a second I was like maybe fuck should I have gone and then after the recap I was like no I think I did the right thing but it looked really great and 10 years that's that's a lot of years no it's so depressing when those milestones come up like I think like a year ago I hadn't I actually couldn't go because I was working but it was my 10 year high school reunion like

not cool I guess that would mean my 15 year high school reunion is next year yes

I haven't maybe you should fly in for it I would I haven't gotten any comms And I think maybe my 10-year was during COVID because I don't think that happened because I would go to that.

That's just an evening.

Jackie, I actually remember it was during COVID and it was on Zoom.

Oh, right.

And I didn't join.

And I actually think people were bummed.

Like, I remember getting some comms being like, oh, we thought you were going to come.

Like, someone was so-and-so's wife is a big toaster.

Right.

Comms.

Okay.

It's giving comms.

Wait, do I look different?

Uh,

yes.

Why?

Because you're wearing your aura ring.

Okay, added to the list of things.

Like, Jack says, I'm obsessed.

Let me tell you, like, visually, I don't think it's like the most gorgeous thing.

And I don't know how they fit all this tech into this ring, but I do wish it was smaller.

But like, it's still really amazing.

Yeah, of course, of course.

Love learning so much about myself.

Love all the data.

And it does definitely get you to do more because you want to like hit your activity goal.

So I'm like, all right, let me just like walk to the grocery store instead of taking a cab.

Like, I like it.

I'm still figuring out, you know, aesthetically, like how to style my jewelry because it's definitely not an eyesore, but it's not the most gorgeous thing on the planet no i think the way to wear it is to have a lot of rings and it's just like one of many gold rings on your finger but i'm not one of those people so i need to like go and get some rings to hide accessorize yeah but then all of a sudden i'm wearing a million rings and i'm supposed to be more active i don't think so No, totally.

And like, I'm so paranoid of like doing something and it not getting logged in my aura.

Well, I just want to say, I feel like Aura Ring doesn't make mistakes.

You know, that's what I so far, so good.

But on Saturday, I went for a run/slash walk outside

and it was not picked up.

Meanwhile, I tried on some clothes for 15 minutes and they were like, workout detected.

Jaggie, I blew out my hair standing up and they said it was a workout.

That is so funny.

Which I love.

I got ready for the day yesterday and they were like, workout.

I was like, no, just me squeezing into a bathing suit, but thanks.

Honestly, workout.

But like, I

worked out on Saturday and it didn't log it and I didn't hit my activity goal that day.

And like,

does or

make mistakes?

It's something I just want to know if it's possible.

Oh, well, you know what?

It could have been, and I've heard this: if you are wearing an Apple Watch or an Aura ring and you're pushing a stroller, which I was, and your hand is on the stroller, oh, yeah, for sure.

But it should have picked up my heart rate.

And that's why

people like push their strollers with one hand because the other hand is doing the tracking.

But, like, I'm sorry, I need two hands on the double stroller.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, that's a heavy thing.

Once again, motherhood is a sacrifice for your data.

You think that's okay.

So now I know I should put it on my toe.

They should make an aura toe ring.

Just like an ankle.

We need to figure out the stroller thing because also, like, when my phone is in my stroller and I go for a walk, the phone doesn't pick up steps either.

Even before I was elevated and had an aura ring, but like now neither of you guys do.

Like that's where we take our walks.

So you know what?

I know in my heart I hit my activity goal on Saturday.

I was feeling like a little

down.

A little less then because I hadn't.

No, for sure.

But yeah, it was a long run and walk, both.

My heart rate.

But why didn't it get my heart rate up?

This is a question for Aura herself.

The oracle.

Speak to her.

Actually, I feel like now some mamas will give me some tips.

If you have an aura ring and the stroller, like, what are we doing?

What are we doing?

No, I really love it.

I want to say thank you so much.

Like, I really love it.

Like, I'm really, I'm excited about it.

I wake up every morning.

Like, what is my sleep score?

I wake up.

Yeah, me too.

What is my readiness for the day to take on the day?

Correct.

Well, I'm so glad that slowly but surely you come around to my suggestions.

That's kind of the theme.

Thus far.

Thus far today.

Yeah.

It's a joy whenever you do.

Yeah.

No, it definitely like is annoying for sure.

I know that.

Just I'm working on my, I think we're all just like working on our own timelines.

Yeah, you got to run your own race.

Exactly.

And that's exactly what I'm doing.

Yeah.

You are actually running.

But no, I'm glad.

Also, do you know that you could sync auras so that like we, we could be like aura ink together on the app?

Like competitive?

I don't like competition though.

I don't like that either.

Like I said, I'm running my own race.

But I could get to see like, oh, what's Turdy gotten up to today?

How's Turdy feeling?

What's Turdi's readiness?

Is Turdy relaxing?

Maybe I shouldn't call her.

Maybe I should.

I feel like data's so private.

You know, I'm going to keep my data private.

You don't want to just share it with your swirly.

I don't know.

Okay.

Okay, Turdy.

I'll try not to take it personally.

How are the stories today?

I mean, it's Monday, so they're usually pretty good.

Yeah, they're good.

That's good.

They are good.

I was just organizing them, doing some org.

Org.

Organ comms this morning.

Anything else we need to chit-chat about?

Promote, you know, divest?

Sanctions?

Divulge?

Divulge.

I used the wrong word.

No, I don't think so.

I feel caught up.

And if anything arises, we could always slip it in.

We make the rules.

We do.

We don't run things, things don't run, we.

We run things, things don't run, we.

That's the truth, ain't it?

It ain't.

No, it is.

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Our first story is, you know, the developing news of the big story of the season and also one of Turti's new favorite handsome people.

Jennifer Lopez.

Now I care.

Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck were spotted together attending his son's basketball game.

The PDA is being analyzed.

There was a kiss on the cheek.

You know, they're saying they're avoiding locking lips.

However, what I'm seeing is a couple together in public being cute.

I think his mom was there too.

They were going to the 12-year-old son's basketball game.

And this bodes well, wouldn't you say, La?

Well, this is coming off the heels.

And of course, it happened.

Like the second we wrapped Friday's episode, J-Lo announced, we've been talking a lot about her tour, poor ticket sales, perhaps Vegas.

It's been a lot of question marks around this tour, and perhaps like her

taking on something, betting off more than she could chew.

And the tour has now been canceled.

They released, you know, kind of a Friday afternoon announcement is

a strategy.

And people were talking about it.

Now, I did look into

some some of the numbers from her sale, like how many tickets she actually sold.

It wasn't abysmal.

It wasn't obviously like a banger sellout, but it was decently full.

I would say like most of the venues were like 70%.

And, you know, you sell a lot of tickets the week of.

So I didn't really think it was.

And they're big venues.

So 70% that still have seats.

I know.

So I don't know

how all these things are interconnected.

You know, the rumors about Ben Affleck and her.

Whose basketball game was this?

Soccer?

His son Samuel.

So if you're like a relatively new stepmom, and I don't know the stepmom

playbook here.

And you're having trouble with the boy's father.

You're separated.

Like, are you going to the boys' game?

I don't think so.

Also, like, Jennifer Gardner was in attendance too.

Like, I don't think it was necessary that Jay Logo.

And I also don't think that they would use the kids' sporting event as like a PR moment, as a key PR.

I know.

It's wrong.

I think

it's all, it's good.

Maybe they're having issues.

I mean, also, it's like when it rains and pours and when things aren't good professionally, like that can put pressure on your relationship, seep into stuff.

You don't know if you're heading to Vegas to live there for a while or if you're going out on a multi-city tour.

Like, I think, you know, two things can be true and we can hold space for both, Law.

Yeah, I am feeling like bad for J-Lo.

Like, they're making it seem like her career is tanking, her marriage is tanking.

And that actually like might be true, but it also might not be true.

I think even if it is true, she's a fighter.

She's not going, she's not going down

like this.

Not at all.

And I'm rooting for her.

Her statement regarding the tour cancellation was very vague.

Yeah.

It didn't cite a particular reason, which I think would lead people to believe that

it was due to poor sales, but the sales weren't poor.

I think it gives credence to that Vegas thing.

Like, you know what?

Let's focus on Vegas,

especially if the Vegas bigwigs are now getting like a little nervous.

Nervous.

Then let's get all 70% of those ticket sales and get them to Vegas.

Now, speaking of Ben Affleck, an interesting part when I was watching Pearl Harbor is that you know who's in the movie.

Not a major role, but not a small one.

Gwen?

Jennifer Garner.

So that is where they met, but she was married at the time.

Like it wasn't.

They didn't like start dating till three years later.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I was shocked to see her in the movie.

She looked so different.

Like, she's,

there are so many people in the movie.

Like, it's, it's such an old movie, but so many people in it are still famous, which is so crazy.

I think because it was so successful.

Yeah.

Who's that girl?

What's her name?

She's friends with Taylor Swift.

And she's in Heart of Dixie.

What is her name?

Jamie King.

What's her name?

King.

Thank you.

She's like kind of a star in it, too.

How cute.

Yeah, I think that was like her big moment.

So it's really crazy the cultural impact of that movie, given given how much time has passed.

So do I think this,

well, then Ben Affleck was also spotted over the weekend like picking his kid up from school and he was like holding a hoodie and the hoodie was like wrapped around his left hand.

So like you couldn't see if he was wearing his ring or not.

But if he wanted people

to think he's wearing his ring, he would just wear it.

I don't think Ben Affleck is sly like that.

Yeah, I also think Ben Affleck is just paparazzi'd a lot, especially these days.

I think he always has been, but it's obviously been another level this last, let's say, couple of years, but specifically this year.

So like maybe he was literally in this one shot, just like holding the hoodie in that hand.

Right.

Yeah.

Because he is wearing his ring in these pictures.

And there hasn't been like any actual documentation, no like legal separation.

Like this is all just rumors.

This is rumors, but they really did reach a fever pitch and it did sound like

confirmed.

And then the tour.

I don't know where that plays into this.

I don't think it does.

I just think it's like when it rains, it pours.

And that's just life.

So you think there's a world in which all of this could just be kind of explained away?

Like the rumors were a lie and the tour is about Vegas.

No.

I'm saying like, I don't think her marriage is suffering because her tour suffered.

I think she just like, just like sometimes when everything's coming up, you in the other way, like, and I feel like that's just what happened between them.

Like, what goes up must come down.

And she's just experiencing it down.

But I don't think the tour being canceled has to do with her relationship.

I don't think her relationship has to do with the tour sales being bad.

I think they're two separate things.

But the way that it looks to a lot of people, it's a hard time for one girl.

And that's what it looked like to people.

Like her marriage is falling apart.

She's heartbroken.

She can't go on tour.

I don't think so.

Okay.

I think she's fighting a war on two fronts.

Yeah.

I would love to know what's actually going on.

Like genuinely, this being

speculatory is one of my favorite hobbies.

Like now I'm just, the curiosity has gotten to me.

I need to know what's going on.

Yeah.

Me too.

And I also just want to know like where these things came from.

Like maybe they're having having a hard time as a couple, like, not in the realm of like getting divorced or anything, but like, she's having a hard time professionally, so maybe she's not like the happiest she's ever been, and that's a strain on their relationship.

But he's there for her, and like, maybe they have a friend who just like went and told

an outlet like that they're having a hard time, and it's like that's private.

Yeah,

I don't know, it's definitely like a lot of evidence, if you will.

What evidence

in their matrimony?

I don't know.

And like him covering his hand, but that can be explained away.

Yeah.

And then, you know, people were saying the paparazzi pictures of them at the soccer game, like they embraced sort of as comrades.

I keep saying comrades because it's literally every other word in the future.

Yeah, it was a very affectionless kip.

I don't need a kiss.

It was a kiss on the cheek.

I don't need a

kiss at the baseball.

There are children around.

Yeah.

Hey, how you doing?

Hey, how you doing?

Yeah.

So that's the latest and greatest with them.

I wouldn't say the greatest, but I would say the latest.

Are you ready for our next story, which is about the greatest?

Yeah.

The greatest Miley Cyrus is on the cover of W magazine, The Pop issue, giving an interview about her recent success, the Grammys, what's going on with Miley.

Everything's coming up, Miley.

And now, and now we've said it.

And now we've said it.

So as much as Miley is happy and thankful for for her Grammy, she's still a little

miffed.

Miffed.

She's asking, why did the Grammys wait 20 years to take me seriously?

So in a new interview, she wondered why she had to wait decades to get respect from her peers in the music industry, despite making a splash early on in her career and multiple times over the years.

It's actually true.

Yeah, because of course you think about, I mean, I think about the climb

and that era, but also like wrecking ball, we can't stop.

We can't stop.

We can't stop.

Oh my god we run things things don't run we and before flowers she had been nominated one time for a grammar for pop vocal album for bangers which is fair and she didn't win which i don't know that she i don't know who else needed to but she's had a lot of success so here's what she had to say she said i've had a hard time figuring out what the measurement is there because if we want to talk stats and numbers then where the fuck was i and if you want to talk like impact on culture, then where the fuck was I?

She said, this is not about arrogance.

I'm just proud of myself.

yeah no I I like that at the actual event she didn't obviously like harbor any ill will and she was you could watch you could see when through her performance and her speeches like she was so excited and so happy and like it really came through as really genuine but like no yeah let's talk about it I like holding like let's speak the truth not just like it's an honor to be nominated like where the fuck were I was I yeah I like that I like that too And when you do take a look at her, you know, discography and career at a glance, there are many peaks that had like huge cultural impacts.

Like, you're right, like the wrecking ball, we can't stop.

Like there was a time, like, that was so, we can't stop, like, feels like a lifetime ago, but it really was this insane moment in culture.

And it was the song of that year, whatever.

What year was that?

Maybe 2013?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's, it's worth noting that it definitely feels like she's been largely ignored by by the Grammys.

But the Grammys are just weird.

Yeah, they are.

And then I feel like once they embrace someone, they just like they don't let them go, even when it's not their time.

And then they're just kind of like late to other people, but then also early for other people.

If you look at the best new artist category, I feel like that's the most fascinating because that's the most predictive.

And it's like you can tell where they were right and where they were wrong.

Yeah.

And there are people who won Best New Artists and went on to do nothing.

And then there are people who were nominated for it who are the biggest stars in the world and who lost.

Right.

Now, you can't obviously predict everything accurately, but it does feel like the Grammys are not a meritocracy.

It's very political.

And I think a lot of artists have been vocal about that.

And it's annoying.

Like, you have to play the game and,

you know,

do the circuit.

And it's annoying because it should just be like, which song was the biggest and the best?

The end.

Yeah.

Also, the pictures from this interview are just.

sickening slight house down boost.

And so she's touching on a couple things because I was like, is she doing new music?

Like, why are we getting Miley?

But she's actually being honored at the Disney Legends Awards ceremony this year.

She's getting like a Legends Award from Disney.

She'll be the youngest honoree.

She talked a little bit about her time at Disney.

and this is what she had to say.

She said, it's a place to celebrate the journey of both being on and graduating from Disney.

It was a great safe experience overall.

People have 50 or 60 year-long careers, but mine has been close to 20 years.

I'm 31.

I've been in the public for my life more than I haven't.

They say that the creative adult is the child who survived.

I worked really hard as a child.

I didn't go to prom.

I didn't go to dances.

I didn't have so much of that social experience or time for friends.

Disney, they were doing very well off the amount of work that I was putting in as a child.

I don't have any bad feelings about that.

It's just the truth.

And so I think they have to give me this award.

I'm excited to celebrate with the fans.

No, it's really nice.

And this never happens with child stars.

Either like after the child stardom, like things go badly.

I know we know a million stories like that.

Or, you know, they go on to have illustrious careers.

But what comes out from their time at those places is so horrible.

And I think there are so many people in the culture who started at Disney, Jonas Brothers, Lena Gomez, Emma Levato, Miley Cyrus.

And for the most part, it doesn't seem like that was the culture at Disney.

And that's like such a relief

to hear.

I mean, by the way, when you think about it, like Shia LaBeouf, Ravensbone, like it really kind of is endless.

It's really crazy.

And so every time that's sort of

Vanessa Hudgens, Zach Fran, sorry.

Every time that's reiterated by a cast, by a celebrity like Miley, like it, it's good because those shows really raised us.

And I think we're all just coming off of the Quiet On Set documentary, which was like, couldn't have been more disappointing if we, if it tried.

Like, it was just so bad.

It was so corrupt.

It was so evil.

And so, the rival network at the time, it was really like Disney vs.

Nick, Disney versus Nick.

It appears as though like everything was kosher at Disney.

And the more we hear, like, the more good it is.

Kenny Ortega.

So, like, they thought.

However, we also saw in Quiet On Set how that convicted child sex offender was hired by Disney for Sweet Life on Deck.

So, things are not kosher over there

entirely.

Like, how do you have someone with a record against children hired on a children's show?

Shit, no, you're right.

Fuck.

So you still have to be questioning things, but I think when someone like shares a positive experience, it's like, it's a relief for sure.

It is.

And especially for us, like Hannah Montana was so important to us.

Like, seriously, we can't minimize the impact and the importance that show like had.

It was just, it was our show.

Yeah.

And so I feel like there maybe was a time where Miley like wasn't really leaning into it and really wanted to get away from it, which I totally understood.

And now that she successfully did that, she can safely sing those songs and remark on that time.

And that's so fabulous for us because that show was so important to us.

Yes, it truly raised us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, another moment from the glamour magazine part that people are talking about is when she's talking about working with Beyonce because that was kind of like one of the biggest songs from the Beyonce album.

And it turns out that Miley wrote that song.

It's entirely written by Miley.

And Beyonce came to Miley to collab, but also came for a song.

Like she didn't come just to have Miley sing.

And Miley said, to have Beyonce come to me looking for a song that I've written and also wanting me to sing on it, like was so doubly an honor and very interesting.

And that was a song that like Miley had sort of kept in her back pocket for many years and her mom was like obsessed with.

And when the time came, it was like so obvious that this was going to be the song they were going to put forth for Beyonce.

Like this is what they had been waiting for.

And I love that.

Yeah.

And also like it's two most wanted.

So I think it like speaks to them.

Also, she has a friendship with Beyonce that she talked about in the magazine.

It was funny.

She was like, our personas have a friendship and then we also have a personal friendship, which I feel like is so real.

Yeah.

So it was a good interview and Miley's doing great and that warms my heart.

Everything's coming up, Miley.

Yeah.

And it must feel good to have put in the work for so long.

Like she was definitely,

you know, flew a little bit under the radar.

I also think she had like a hard time finding her sound and like to have all your work pay off at once must be like such a good feeling.

For sure.

But the more I think about it, like Malibu, that's a pop song nomination of the year like so many snubs and i do think that when you finally get it it's not like oh thank you it's like oh fuck you like be my ass yeah

but that she also talked about like the energy like the feelings that she had going into the grammys this year and like performing um and what her mentality was of just like having fun this is like my inner child like i'm i'm not gonna be like 31 and self-conscious and aware of like Because when you're so aware, I'm going to just be like 12 and brave and confident.

And like, that totally came through.

Except I'm a 31-year-old woman with big hair hair and a bog mackey dress.

And so, like, slayed the house down boots.

It totally came through.

Yeah, I agree.

And I think it really endeared her to a lot of people.

Like, you loved that sort of energy that she had.

Yeah, it's been viewed 33 million times at performance on YouTube.

It was major.

Yeah, major.

I should watch it again.

Are you ready for our next story?

What number?

Number three.

Yeah.

One of our, I think, kind of favorite blossoming couple news stories.

They're still going strong.

Sophie Turner vacations in Italy with her her boyfriend, Perrin Green Pearson, as Joe Jonas is newly single again.

Yeah, I saw, I saw, I love those pictures.

And coming right on the heels of Natalie Portman and

what's his name?

Comments.

Like bringing cigarettes back.

Sophie Turner in these paparazzi photos, she's one hand on a cigarette, one hand on her cell phone.

Oh, yeah, and a glass of wine.

I feel like Sophie Turner never left.

You know, sometimes she's indoors and she has to go for the e-cig.

But

she was a big jewel girly back in the day.

She, I know, i think she's in cap pre

she's going for the real deal

she's also like european she's from london like they don't give a as much it's like not a big deal yeah and i'm trying to see if her man's has a sig because i think like when you're both smoking that's just fun smokers see each other smokers unite But cigarettes are back, baby.

You heard it here first.

Well, it's summer, Claude.

It's so true.

And did they ever leave?

People just were doing it a little bit more in secret.

Some people.

Not Sophie.

Not ever.

No, Sophie's always been honest with us about who she is.

She's her authentic true self, and she's taken her authentic true self on a couple's getaway with her boyfriend.

Who I'm, we hadn't heard from them in a while.

Didn't know if they were still together.

He's her like aristocratic man.

I was gonna say, remind me, he's just like a nobleman.

Peregrine Pearson.

Yeah, nobleman Beau.

He's in the like aristocratics world in London.

Yeah, like high society.

That's like such a sly.

Such a sly.

And also this story talks about Joe having split with Stormy.

Stormy, which

rip to them, but I feel like the most important part of their relationship was bringing Nara Smith out into the world.

They did what they needed to do.

They did what they needed to do.

And now we have her.

It was really kind of a crazy perfect timing where

Stormy Breezy

was happening.

And Nara was like, it was like really on the up and up.

Like Stormy didn't make Nara, but it it added a whole new cultural context to the scene we were all following on TikTok.

And then her man and her man's previous relationship and the kids and the kids' names and the bread.

She made gum from scratch.

Like, it really was the perfect storm of Nara Smithism.

Yeah, it was.

And she's here to stay.

Oh, beyond.

And, you know, it all happening during the.

trad wife homesteading renaissance that's occurring on social media.

Timing is everything.

And the timing was right for Nara Smith.

It really was.

I'm enjoying following her.

Yeah, no, it's definitely otherworldly.

But sometimes Lucky cooks.

Yeah, I just saw what, oh, he made his own moisturizer

because he ran out.

He had tallow.

Because he ran it out.

Yeah, and instead, obviously, of going to the store like a normal person, they're like, what if we just, you know, whipped up our own cream?

And then they did a little, you know, bathroom sesh where they were putting the cream on their faces.

And

I agree, not to be so trad, but I think Nara should be the one in the kitchen.

Like, Lucky, I don't know what you do for a living, but go back.

Like, I don't like it.

He's models.

He doesn't have the same sort of like

tenderness and softness, to use the words of Carl Radke, that Nara has.

Like, she's just, she hits different.

So, yeah, I need Nara to stay in the kitchen and I need Lucky to get the fuck out.

Yeah, I totally agree.

But I loved him trying his hand at a little witchcraft.

A little trattery.

Yeah.

So, yeah, that's the latest in this love

square.

Yeah, this calmed down as quickly as it fired up, like this whole Joe and Sophie thing.

And for the stability of the family, I'm glad that it did.

But just interesting to know, their bounce back relationships.

One is still going strong and one is not.

Right.

Interesting.

And where did we all land with this?

Team Sophie, right?

Like I think a lot of people saw through in that crazy like two weeks of press.

I think it was all came really hard and fast and people really quickly saw through.

Oh, yeah.

I think like for a second people were like team Joe and then they went like but I think for the people who felt those extremes, yeah, they go from side to side.

I think like for me, not to say that I'm better than that, but like

I'm not teen.

So like it takes two to tango.

These are two seemingly nice people.

They have children.

Like they're just trying to make it work.

They work hard.

I think they're both good people.

I don't like the smearing of one another.

I think that's

below the belt, but I think they're both deep.

Like I'm fine with both of them and I'm happy.

for both of them.

I want them both to have happiness.

Yeah.

Right?

Because that's what's best for everyone.

Sometimes, like, I will say, like, sometimes I'm not better than that.

You know, I think it's case by case if I'm going to be getting involved, like team X, team Y.

So it's case by case.

But in this case, yes, I do agree.

Like at the end of the day, it's the dissolution of a family.

I think we

really swing when like something, like an injustice has occurred, like a cheating or just something like really, but when it's just, you know,

growing apart, you know, I'm sure both, you know, they probably like were fighting every, you know, that's not our business.

It's not our business.

I agree.

So happy for her Italian summer with her nobleman.

Yeah, no, it's definitely something to look up to.

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Our next story, our next two stories are actually some bombshell reality TV news, actually.

Number four is that the Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 14 reunion will not have a traditional format amid the divisive state of the cast.

So there won't be a traditional reunion for the Real Housewives of New Jersey season 14, page six can confirm.

The women were notified by production this week that a traditional reunion wasn't happening this season amid the divisive state of the show.

A second insider close to the situation shares that the Bravo cast was told that the network is brainstorming a different concept to wrap up the season instead.

In their typical format, you know, everyone's there in a conversation hosted by Andy in a way to facilitate resolution among the stars.

However, it has become evident that there isn't a feasible path for the Rahone group in such a setting.

Wait, that's really crazy because the

response online has basically been, Real Houses in New Jersey was so bad this season that they're not even getting a reunion

and I was surprised because like it's not amazing first of all It's very early to it's actually been pretty good and like there have been way worse seasons of housewives like I don't know what like everyone's so mad about when it comes to this, but now it sounds like the group is fighting too much.

Yeah, I don't like it's too good.

I feel like this season looks so good just from the previews and the fact that they can't even sit for a reunion.

Like I was slipping and watching.

I think I'm two episodes behind.

Like you bet your ass I'm catching up after the Redheads.

That's next on my content plate.

The source also emphasized that an intense all-cast dinner filmed for the forthcoming finale, during which insults, expletives, and dinnerware were lobby between the ladies felt like an impasse.

It makes sense.

That's what started at the very, the first scene of the first episode.

It's Dolores at that table by herself after the mess.

The insider says, once viewers see the finale, the decision to forego the traditional reunion will make even more sense.

You also have to think about the

men are so involved in this show, and it has gotten physical between men before perhaps that's what happened at the dinner like there are a lot of layers here that that you don't have to think about with other franchises like one the family of it all the sisters-in-law two the men are super involved and they have gotten physical before so like i wonder if that has anything to do with it i guess we'll just truly have to wait and see um i do think we're at an impasse though because Therese and Melissa will not speak.

There's no resolution.

And we're doing the season with accepting that.

It's been what, 10 years of trying to fight past it and fight her family.

And like this is the first season where we're just, we're not even fighting.

We're accepting the fact that like we have nothing to do with each other.

So the reunion would be kind of a block.

And I feel like everybody else is falling into teams too.

And it is an impasse.

And I feel like that's what's going to happen on Vanderpump Rules because we said after this reunion, like, I accept that Ariana and Tom will not film together.

They shouldn't film together.

I'm done.

I don't need resolution.

And I think they should both still be on the show.

But then I think we'll have one season of that and it's not feasible for whatever reason.

And things will play out out and we'll see what happens but it becomes a major roadblock

yeah um

and this one is just so complicated there's so much history i am curious what this new format is going to be because there are you could see it forming now like two different teams like basically melissa and teresa i feel like the finale fight and the fight like whatever the big fights throughout the season are are not even about melissa it's not between us and teresa no i don't think so either and it's so interesting because i've always said this about

And I feel like I get so frustrated talking about Real Housewives in New Jersey because I feel like we're on the unpopular side.

Like I'm very much Team Melissa, Team Margaret.

And

I feel like that's not really the case.

And the only person who this entire time, and I think this season too, who doesn't really definitively take any side is Dolores.

And I feel like just as a critic of housewives like that, definitely like, you know, holds her back a little bit.

Like she's stopping reaching her full potential because she's a super rational person.

I think that's what people love about her.

She's so real, but but she's fiercely loyal to Teresa.

And while she doesn't defend Teresa, she doesn't, you know, ever criticize Teresa or take a side against Teresa.

So that's why she's the only one sitting at this table because she's really kind of in the middle and she knows everyone for so long.

Yeah, but I feel like Dolores, like her key characteristics are, of course, like being like very logical and real, but also like very traditional and very loyal and

even to a fault perhaps, like even with Frank, you know?

So I feel like that is in line with her character.

And when I'm looking for just just like rash, like, you know,

being

no matter the cost, like it's Margaret and Melissa.

And it was Jackie.

I felt like Jackie kind of died on that hill as a cast member.

Yeah.

Where it was like, I, this is crazy.

And I can't, you know,

we can't just tiptoe around Teresa.

We can't just not say the things that are so obviously true.

Like, if you could control your husband, would your husband be in jail?

No, Jackie came onto this show like so real that obviously Teresa, who's like

this kind of sits on this throne of like not lies but like hypocrisy someone as straight shooter as Jackie coming in and just calling it out like it was explosive and that's what we loved about Jackie and so she got demoted and it seems like ever since then she has been doing anything possible to get her job back like the first scene she shot last season after being demoted she comes in and makes fun of Danielle Schwartz like she just kind of totally flipped personalities and now this season her being like Teresa's up Teresa's butt is so clearly an attempt to stir the pot be relevant and so it it doesn't feel authentic to me.

And it's like frustrating.

And imagine, you know, being Jackie and Melissa.

Yeah.

Like, hello.

Yeah.

I mean, remember the scene

at Margaret's house with Teresa and Jackie being like, I didn't say Gia was doing Coke, but imagine if I did.

Like, how far we've come.

Right.

This is the person who started the rumor that your husband was cheating on you at the gym.

Like, it's just like the Jackie Schultzcher we knew would never.

Right, right.

So

we'll watch and then make assumptions, but you know.

But what what do you think the format is?

Like

filming with one group, then filming with another.

I have no idea.

But to hear all these people saying the same thing, like I have no idea.

Maybe they would do like one-on-one with like Jackie.

I mean, Jen Fessler and Margaret, Teresa, and whoever, like, you know what I mean?

Like maybe instead of like a big group setting, they think it'll de-escalate that way.

I don't know.

I don't know either.

Couldn't have it.

But I think this sounds good, even though people were like clowning on it, being like, this season's so bad, they're not even getting a reunion.

It actually sounds like this season is so explosive, like they can't all be in the same room together.

Yeah, agreed.

I'm looking forward to it.

Me as well.

And then our fifth and final story is a little more reality TV news because Sheena Shea claims that Vanderpump Rules producer warned the cast that the show would be canceled amid season 11 filming.

So as the future of Vanderpump Rules remains unclear, Sheena Shea claimed executive producer Alex Baskin warned the cast that the show would be canceled.

So she said in her new episode of her podcast shenanigans, I know Alex Baskin has said that mid-season, the show was not in a good place.

It was, you know, X, Y, and Z needs to happen or we're going to have a short season season and the show is going to be canceled and that's it.

Go live your lives.

She noted that the grim outlook put a lot of pressure on her and Lala to deliver quality content.

Well, we don't want the show to get canceled, she explained, not just for ourselves and our families, but there's a crew of 80 to 100 people who work on this show.

And I said this at the reunion, which you didn't see, but I was like, I feel like we're doing our jobs also for all of these people.

We want to keep this going.

Okay, like it's giving casting credit.

It's giving.

Yeah, thank you to the Lightning and Craft Services.

That's always like a a nice thing to throw in there, sure.

But let's get to the, you know, the real stuff.

Like, you don't want the show to end.

We don't want the show to end.

You guys didn't want the show to end.

So also, I feel like that is, this is an important thing to know when watching the reunion.

I have been keeping up with this on social media.

Like, Lala and Sheena, there's been a lot of like allegations.

I also saw that, like, there,

you know, Lala and Sheena were sort of

inferring that there were like rewards-based bonuses for X, Y, and Z.

Because I guess they did get to an impasse like halfway through filming where it's like kind of boring because everyone's just like not filming together.

And if they are, they're not saying anything.

Like, there are a lot of like political dynamics, if you will.

So I had also read that that was being implied by Sheena and Lala, that, you know, they were being paid to sort of be the first one to say something about Ariana.

Oh, interesting.

I mean, I feel like since they broke the fourth wall, they should have put this into

the reunion because there was a time when Lala's talking about how she thankful she is for the show and all of the opportunities it brought her and how she's grabbing them and how it's allowed her to like be a single mom and then do it again and it felt like okay yeah but that's always true like why

why this season but here's why because they they were literally threatened with cancellation that's why they started working even harder right it seemed like la was like it felt like she was being dramatic like the stakes were so high and it's like no one else feels that way no one it's and it's been like that every season like yeah we get a lot from this show That doesn't mean that you, uh, so-and-so has to do something they don't want to do.

But this puts into context that, like, why they were so upset and why they were also upset that people weren't being real.

Cause they're probably like, we have a show if people will just be real.

Be honest, right?

And then we wouldn't be threatened with cancellation.

Right.

Like, we have a really good, interesting show, but no one wants to do that show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's what I'm saying.

And I feel like that's what Lala kept saying.

Like, I love doing this.

Like, I love how we just, it's real.

And, like, that's not what this season was to her.

No, it's definitely like

if if this is true, like production being just sort of overproducing, if you will,

it definitely adds a little bit of clarity to Lala and Gina's behavior on this season and a lot of the things that Lala was saying at the reunion that I found confusing.

Yeah, that just seemed like

very extreme, considering it didn't feel like the show was teetering on cancellation.

They just had like the most worldwide global scandal thinking.

Everyone's talking about Vanderpum Prols.

Why now are we going to be scared of cancellation?

You should have been scared two years ago.

Literally, when the show was on its last dying breath.

And how could production even say that?

I mean, yeah, I guess the season was going poorly, but even if

this season wasn't good, which it wound up being good, there would be so much residual viewership from Scandival for like the next year or two years.

They had a guaranteed two seasons

from Scandival.

Just skating on by.

Even this season, if it was bad and it didn't end, or like it just ended, whatever.

They would have had another season because people are watching right now.

There's still, you're 100% right.

There's still residual like benefits and effects from Scandinav.

After Scandinav, they got a guarantee of two seasons, even if they all just sat around and picked their noses all day.

Like that was the, you don't go from being like seriously the number one global trending topic in the world to the show is the next season being canceled.

Right.

So I feel like Lala should have known better than to have been so easily manipulated, but that's what production does.

Like that's their job.

Yeah, but I also think the stakes are really high for her.

Yeah.

And I feel like everyone, you can make the argument for everyone.

Like Katie and Ariana just opened a restaurant and you wouldn't want to lose the show now, but they're not acting like it no yeah yeah they're not like sort of throwing it all same for the toms they have shorts and sandy's but i feel like they're doing whatever they do their best which is yeah i'm literally there's nothing they could do more of that i would be like oh i need more like i actually want them to do less yeah yeah they're to me they're so uninteresting yeah

um

so yeah vanprools is so interesting that especially since scandal so much of the storyline plays out in podcasts and on social media, and they're all leaving comments.

Like it's all over my Twitter.

And that makes it, you know, fun to keep up with like during the offseason.

And I know they're taking a bigger break this year to give everyone like a little bit of time to reset, which I think is good.

So this is just fun to keep up with.

Yeah.

And I thought this was an interesting factoid.

Yeah, it is.

And it makes sense.

Yeah.

It's like a little too late.

The reunion's over.

This would have been helpful then.

But they did say it, I guess, but it was cut out.

Yeah, I guess it makes production look bad and it looks like they're like manipulating people and being like toxic classic reality TV production.

Um,

you should have just went with it aside from there being like the person's name, because it's like, I feel like in general, you just like blame it on production and no one actually takes accountability.

It's like, oh, yeah, it was those, and we don't know who they are, they're not public people, so it's just like a an easy one to blame.

You know, actually, the BravoCon panel that I hosted with like it was half housewives, half producers, Alex Baskin was on my panel.

And is that a man or a woman?

Oh, good question.

Man.

And good vibes?

Yeah, seemed like super normal.

Cool, cool.

It's like a guy doing his job.

Yeah.

Well, I guess he did his job because we got our season.

He produces a couple of shows

because no one from Vanderprim Bros was on my panel.

It was all house-wise.

I think he does or did New York

in the early days.

Oh, cool.

Yeah, I think.

So yeah, that's just like a little bit of reality TV behind the scenes that you might not have known.

Yeah.

That's our show, correct?

Anything else we want to chit-chat about?

No, that's all.

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