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So, thank you so much and welcome to the Toast.

Hope everybody had a great day thus far.

I am so excited for today's episode.

I'm so excited for today's episode for a number of reasons.

It's Friday.

So

congrats, grads.

We did it and we're going into a long holiday weekend.

Oh my God, I didn't even think about that.

So we have that holiday weekend energy and that joie de vie.

Yeah, I feel like when we come back to the show on Tuesday, not Monday, don't get it twisted, we're gonna be like tan and full of life.

What's also exciting is that we already recorded Monday's Patreon episode for you guys.

We recorded it yesterday.

It's all about Toast Inside Jokes, Deanie Lexicon, explaining everything that we say and why we say it.

And that will drop on Monday.

So if you're looking for an episode, there'll be one on patreon.com slash the toast.

So also we can go into the weekend.

Feeling good.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

So I feel like there's a lot of people listening to today's episode.

And before we get to the meat of the thing that like everybody wants us to talk about, let's just say hi, welcome.

The toast is a daily podcast.

We stream live on YouTube and anywhere you can get your podcast Monday through Friday.

We usually drop the episodes at about noon.

Jackie and I are sisters.

We love each other very much.

Some core values here at The Toast are just like joy, humor, family, love, love, et cetera.

And of course, pop culture.

We do five pop culture stories every day.

The first half of the show is usually just girly girls chit-chatting, you know?

And then the second half.

Girly swirly chit-chat.

Girly swirly chit-chat.

And then the second half of the show is pop culture.

We also have a Patreon where for $7.99 every month, you can get five extra episodes, vlogs,

podcast episodes from your girls, kind of an amazing price.

And we're also doing live shows this summer at the Beacon Theater in New York City and the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center.

There aren't a lot of tickets left.

So we will be serving Spritz Society.

It's going to be an amazing, amazing, amazing night.

I cannot wait.

And that's the Toast Pod Society.

The toastpodcast.com slash tour.

Let me just get that in.

The toastpodcast.com slash tour, even though there's like no tickets left.

I don't even know why I'm like shilling it.

Yes.

Speaking of Spritz Society and the Hamptons.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good segue.

Summerhouse was on last night, my new fave show.

I also,

perfect timing.

Like Hashem was looking out for your girl.

I yesterday was like, I need to get in on Summerhouse because the finale is airing next week, then the reunion.

There's all this drama.

And I happened to, I knew that last night on Watch Reaps Live, there was going to be something involving us.

And I was like, I need to do my homework.

I need to come prepared.

So I watched about five or six episodes of Summerhouse last night and this morning.

And I also watched Watch Reaps Live, which is what we are really here to talk about.

Yes.

So this last night's episode of Watch What Reaps Live with Kyle was recorded a few days ago.

Yes.

And I have a molecule.

Some mole, shout out mole.

They were let us know that there was a conversation about Spritz and Loverboy and Ben and Kyle and Craig.

And so that's why we watch.

I I don't normally watch

Watch Rebbens Live with like two losers, but I did.

And I will say,

I wasn't like bothered.

So many people were DMing me like, oh my God, you have to hear what Kyle said on Watch Rebbens Live.

And his general gist was like, you know.

You could tell he's very protective of his brand and I totally get that.

And he was like mad and all butthurt.

And I felt like he was like a little threatened that Kyle joined our company.

I'm Kyle.

Craig joined our company.

He invested.

He's a new ambassador.

We're going to be doing a lot of fun like things, events, flavors, trips to the Cape.

And so I didn't really feel like he said anything that crazy on the episode.

Like he was just being like douchey.

On the wedding show.

And he honestly was getting like sad.

He seemed a little sad.

When he climbs into bed, he starts feeling sad that Craig invested in our society.

Yeah.

And I wasn't going to like do an episode on it, like whatever.

But then this morning, so many people were sending me, like, he really went in on the after show.

And what he did was lie.

And he didn't even lie about me.

He lied about two people I love very much.

Obviously, my husband, husband, who I'll seriously like ride for till the end, and who's such a good, honest, loving person and not duplicitous.

Like he loves to, he loves spritz society.

It's his livelihood, but like it's not his entire world.

You know, he's not going to be out here like scheming at night, stealing ideas, okay?

And then he also lied about my good friend, our good friend, Craig Conover, calling him a liar.

And I just felt like there were a few things I wanted to add color to.

And clear up.

And clear up.

So you can all make your decisions, whether you're team, whatever.

There are no teams.

There's room for all of us.

But it's important that you have all the facts and you know he went on watch happens live and like slung some pretty serious accusations and i just want to give because i have all the facts I have all the dates, I have all the time stamps, and I have the receipts.

So let me just clear up a few things.

And actually, I'm going to be looking to my left because I wrote them down because he said a couple of things I just want to directly respond to.

So you got to hit every point.

And I think that a really huge piece of the context that a lot of people might not have about Loverboy and the show is, and they've said this on the show, but you might not have put it together, is that Loverboy is Kyle's company and he doesn't take on investors.

Like, you know, anytime you have a startup, we have a ton of investors from all different parts of of the country.

Some of them you guys know, the Skinny Confidential, Shannon Ford, that's more of an influencer partnership where people invest and they get equity, but we also use their name and likeness.

That's what we're doing with Craig because we really believe like in compensating talent.

You know, you're coming to us, you're giving us your Instagram.

Like that's value.

We know that that's valuable and we believe, you know, in compensating people fairly.

And at Loverboy, you know.

It's just Kyle.

He doesn't take on investors and he certainly doesn't give any equity to his castmates or fellow influencers, fellow Bravo stars who are doing a lot of work and selling a lot of product for them.

Or holding Loverboy in every episode, talking about Lover Boy in every episode, talking about the new flavor.

Oh, this pair tastes good.

And these aren't nobodies.

These are people with hundreds of thousands of followers, with fans of their own, with successful podcasts, giggly squad.

Like these aren't nobodies.

Who other brands would pay thousands for that and do

do that?

So I can see why that might be frustrating for Kyle.

Like he's really gotten away with sort of robbing his castmates.

And it's, it's, you know, famously become an issue, Hannah Burner.

You know, they talked a lot about their reunion when Hannah Berner's out here like shilling product for him, getting nothing in return.

And then she gets eviscerated for taking a brand deal with Truly, which is a canned malt beverage.

And like Kyle made it his mission to destroy Hannah and get her kicked off the show because she literally is trying to make a living.

Like it's insane.

So that's just a little bit of context.

He, and.

That makes him very stressed, I think.

Like he said on the show how, you know, he has funded the company, not with investors.

We have funded the company with tons of investors.

Like that's how, you know, we make payroll and that's how we can afford marketing and things like that.

He doesn't do that.

And he's taken out personal loans, which is obviously a very brave thing to do.

So I see why he's like really protective over it.

Like I totally get it.

If I was $4 million in personal loans, like I would be freaking too.

Like I'd be doing everything I could to make this company successful.

And even if that meant, you know,

saying your wife can't go do her own little pet project because you need her.

But that's why he's so stressed, by the way.

On the show, we see that.

And then also, that's why he was.

Kind of feeling like backed into a corner with the Craig thing and started just slinging these accusations that aren't true.

That aren't true.

So Ben and Craig are two people I know very well and really love and respect.

And they're like grown men who aren't gonna get on their podcasts and defending themselves, but I am because I'm not a grown woman.

I'm a child, and I have the facts.

You're not a grown man.

No, I'm not a grown man.

And neither is Kyle.

So, like, we're just gonna be duking it out.

That's fine.

Like, here's just the facts, okay?

It's just important.

The first thing is how Craig got involved in the company.

It wasn't this like big master scheme.

It was actually such a pure story.

And of course, it involves Taylor Swift.

Like, I've known Craig and Paige forever, but Ben recently, well, when was Eras in New York?

Maybe a year and a a half ago.

No, actually, exactly a year ago.

Last summer.

So I went to Eras tour like three times.

The second night, I went with a brand.

And when we went with a brand, they had like this party bus.

Craig and Paige were there too.

They invited a bunch of influencers.

There was this party bus.

And of course, you know, Ben's like, yeah, can we get Spritz on the bus?

And the girls who worked for the brand were like, toasters, so cute.

Spritz on the bus, Spritz in the sweets, Spritz everywhere.

And Craig was like pounding them.

He was like, these are so good.

And he didn't know it was our company.

He was just like, oh my God, I love these.

And then we were all hanging out.

We ended up driving them home.

Craig was like asking me so many questions about Taylor Swift.

And that's where him and Ben really became friends.

Of course, golf was a huge part of it.

When he found out we were the owners of Spritz, he like wanted to get involved.

Ben loves doing partnerships like this, like involving people who want to invest, but also have an audience and have an Instagram following.

Like that's a match made in heaven.

So Craig, we've been working with Craig for a while.

We only recently announced that he was going to be joining us.

And we have a lot of fun things coming up with Craig.

But that's how it started.

Like no one was thinking about Kyle.

Like

nobody thinks about Kyle and Loverbore.

Like two things can exist like and two people can be successful and there's a million canned cocktail companies besides us and they're all bigger than us and it's like it's not a big deal.

So just it was never about that.

But I think Craig was aware that he wanted to tell Kyle in his own way.

And another piece of context that is

so important and factual is that Craig took Kyle out to dinner before the announcement, not the day before, like.

a week before it was going to be announced and said, maybe actually more than a week.

And he said, I want to let you know I'm doing this partnership with Ben and the Toast Girls.

But if you will let me invest in Lover Boy, I won't do it.

Like I will.

You got to rethink.

Yeah, I'll rethink.

If you have an offer for it.

Craig's really smart about his money.

I feel like that's kind of been like the Craig's, you know, a redemption story on Southern Charm.

People like thought he was a joke with the sewing.

Literally, his company is huge sewing down south.

They thought he was a joke with the lawyer.

He passed the bar.

People don't take him seriously.

And I think he's having this sort of redemption era.

He's really smart and he wanted to invest in it in a ready-to-drink cocktail.

And he said, listen, I really love Spritz, but of course, like I

will invest in you if you don't want me to do Spritz.

And of course, like I said earlier, that's not something Loverboy does.

They don't want to give other people equity.

Kyle wants to remain in control of the company.

That's why he took out the personal loans.

And he said, no.

So Kyle knew he had first right of refusal.

And I feel like Craig really, that's like what a good, honest person does.

And so to be called a liar on the show and then like completely not include that very vital conversation

was dishonest of Kyle.

And I don't like that.

And I don't like you calling my friend a liar.

Craig is a really good person.

Like he's an honest, he loves Paige.

He's a hardworking guy.

Also, at this point, we have about like a decade of footage on Craig and lie he does not.

No, he's a good.

He's a good person.

The way that Kyle said like Craig's a liar, like everyone knows he's a liar.

Like, no, he's not.

And no, we don't.

No, we don't know that.

Like, he's a good.

And I think that's really why him and Ben.

Like sparked when they met.

Like they're really similar, like hardwork, like their values are aligned, like hardworking.

I mean, Craig would die for Paige.

Ben would die for me.

Like, they're just like honest, good, faithful people who just like want to have fun.

Like, it's not that serious.

So, it really had nothing to do with Loverboy, but now it does because like he's making up lies.

Now, another lie that was told that I must defend my husband, because if you know, to know Ben is to know he's literally incapable of deception.

He is a golden retriever, sweetheart.

And Kyle said on the after show that the founder of Spritz Society, that's BSC, Ben Soffer, my husband, took him out to dinner the night before the Craig announcement was made.

Now, this is why I love patreon.com slash the toast.

Ben did go to dinner with Kyle Cook.

I happened to be vlogging that evening because I knew Ben's going to be out of town, not out of town, out of the house.

And my book club was coming over.

I have a book club.

We meet monthly.

And I vlogged, you know, the Balabusta, getting my apartment ready, home decor, very, you know, homemaker energy.

And I was saying, I'm like, oh my God, Ben's going to dinner with Kyle Cook.

Ben and Kyle Cook have never met up until recently.

They both were speaking at this beverage conference and somebody introduced them.

They might have like a partner in common who they work with.

I don't remember who introduced them, but they met and they were like going to dinner.

I was like, oh my God, this is like so mature.

You know, I love that.

And Ben was like, it's literally not a big deal.

I'm like, okay.

Ben was just like so chill.

It's all in the vlog.

And I'm like, what are you guys going to do?

You know, trade secrets.

Like, it was so sweet and innocent.

And Kyle went on and said that Ben used that dinner the night before the announcement with Craig.

Now, if you look at the dates of the Patreon and when we announced Craig, they're weeks apart.

And he used that dinner to milk information from Kyle.

Couldn't be further from the truth.

Kyle sat at that dinner and was like, I feel like your wife, Claudia, doesn't like me.

Well, I don't know.

Yeah, you don't.

And I'm not going to lie.

I stand firmly with Hannah Berner.

So yeah, I didn't really love you before that, but I didn't know you personally.

So I really, the jury was out on how I felt.

But all I knew was I didn't like what you did to my friend Hannah Berner.

And I don't love how you act on the show, you know, so that's all I know.

But I reserve judgment.

I like to meet people in person.

Still have never met Kyle Cook.

One time he was on the Morning Breath.

I wasn't there.

He was.

I've literally never met him.

Yeah.

So now, obviously, I have, you know, a couple of issues with how you talked about people I love, but you know, it's ever too late to apologize.

Like, seriously, because facts are important.

And I have a few more facts that I want to give.

Now, let me just, did I get that?

Yeah, Craig isn't a liar.

I'm going to defend my friend.

He's a good, honest person.

So don't say that.

Like, that bothers me.

Ben didn't milk you in for information.

You had like a nice...

It was like kind of so mature of them when Ben got back from dinner.

He was like, it was just nice to talk to somebody like who's...

Doing something similar, like taking on the big companies, renegade.

And they have very influencer-focused.

That's like Ben's passion.

Yeah, they have like more in common

than most people.

And it doesn't have to be competitive.

And did Ben tell Kyle Cook about the Craig Conover work deal at dinner?

No.

One, the deal wasn't final.

Two, they had just met.

You don't like share company things with like, well, I don't know in what world Ben would have owed Kyle Cook anything.

Like he didn't tell him, and that's literally not weird.

Yeah.

So that's another fact.

And then on the after show, the general insinuation was that like our business is a failure.

We're copying Loverboy and, you know, we're losers.

Spritz is doing very well.

We just launched in Target, which is super, super exciting.

We have a lot of fun things coming up in the pipeline.

You know, it's a slow, it's a, it's an

huge, but, you know, we do our best and we have a lot of fun, exciting, you know, things and a lot of things we've accomplished that we're really proud of.

And we're going to keep going and we love it and we do very well.

So eat my ass.

Yeah, they made it sound just like very conspiratorial.

Like this cheater brand is failing.

And so they're grasping at to do something just like kyle and it's like it's so not like that this is one of many collaborations that we've done that we do and that we're going to continue to do and craig is like a natural extension of the brand and literally nobody was thinking about kyle and loverboy and like i guess that's hard when no one's thinking about you and we're literally not competitors like we i i feel are very clear about what we do we are a canned cocktail company all of our beverages are um sparkling wine based like that's what we do it's a very specific sort of drink and you know kyle said last night, like, we're not even a Spritz company.

You're not.

He couldn't really define what kind of company they are because I know they sell espresso martinis in a can,

uh, limoncello in a can,

teas in a can, spritz is in a can, non-alcoholic beverages.

They would put their urine in a can and sell it if they could.

Like, they sell everything.

And that's so, and by the way, they do really well.

Like, I'm not, I really don't like to clown on other people's businesses.

That urine thing was mean.

I take that back.

But you know what I mean?

They sell a lot of different beverages.

And that's great.

We're different.

There are a million companies, and really, none of them have anything to do with the other.

Loverboy has nothing to do with Spritz and Spritz certainly has nothing to do with Loverboy.

So we're not the same.

Like let's, we're not, we're actually not, Andy said direct competitors.

We're actually not.

Yeah.

And then the last point I wanted to say that I think is most important,

actually two things.

One, Kyle accused us of copying him, which just isn't true.

And I can say, I would say this on under oath.

I would say this on Lie Detector.

I swear in my family.

I've actually never in my life tried a Loverboy.

And I don't know if Kyle Cook can say the same about Spritz because he literally placed an order from our website and I have a receipt and I have his address and I have his email.

So let's not, you know, let's not lie because paper trails are of the utmost importance.

That's that.

And then the second to last thing I wanted to, oh no, the last thing I wanted to say is you can use code Craig20 at spritzsociety.com for 20% off site-wide.

That's C-R-A-I-G-2-0

at spritzsociety.com.

We have a ton of flavors.

I was actually drinking a passion fruit one this morning, our newest flavor, but I happen to really love peach.

It depends, you know, flavors are so specific and so personal.

So there's a flavor for everyone.

We've got lemon, we've got got grapefruit, we've got blood orange, we've got passion fruit.

We did a limited time collab with Clausen Pickles and you can actually get that collab in some stores.

So just head to SpritzSociety.com.

Lemonade.

That's our skinny confidential favorite.

That's in Target.

Yes.

So you can head to spritzsociety.com for a store locator and see where we're sold near you.

And if we're not in a store near you yet,

you can order online.

So it's fabulous.

It's fabulous.

Thank you, Kyle Cook, for giving us an excuse to shield our product.

Talk about Spritz.

It's been a while.

It's been a while.

So that's code Craig20 at spritzsociety.com.

And I think I got through all my notes.

At the end of the day, you know, there's space for all of us.

There's no need to be slinging insults.

Kyle and Craig are like low-key not even that close, but like that's also not important.

But right.

I just, I didn't like that.

You know, you can say what you want about me.

People, I'm like accustomed to it.

People say stuff about me, but don't say stuff about Ben.

Like seriously, I'll kill you.

Yeah, that's just so off the mark.

Yeah, no, like I feel like making Ben the villain in your story, you're never going to be believed.

Like, Ben is not the villain in anyone's story.

No, unless he's just like muting the microphone and not turning it back up.

But that was, it's not malicious intent.

And it's of the utmost importance that we say here, like, no one's allowed to clown on Ben's offer except for us.

No one's allowed to lie on his name except for us.

It's a role I take extremely seriously.

Yeah.

And don't step on my turf, okay?

Okay.

I'm so glad we got that out of the way.

Like.

Living for the drama.

Like, thank you, Kyle, like, for like bringing us into this.

Now it's like, by this, it's such a great moment for our business.

And I know that was like the opposite of his goal, but like, you lie.

That's what happens.

That's what happens.

Anyways, spritzsociety.com.

And now's as good a time as any to do Summer House recap.

Cause now you're caught up.

And I want to hear your thoughts on the season, because I don't have too many thoughts about last night's episode.

It did kind of feel like circling the drain of.

Someone, one of the Spritz founders texted me.

He wanted me to add like a little bit more clarification.

You understand?

Like, these are business people.

They don't get involved in like TV drama.

And now they're excited.

Right.

Two points of clarification here.

We didn't take him out to dinner.

He paid for himself.

That is important.

Two, he approached us to go to dinner.

Also important.

Interesting.

Okay.

Where'd they go to dinner?

And maybe add in that at dinner we were so kind to offer like that we should do stuff together.

They were talking about partnerships, like throwing parties together, introducing Loverboy to the toast community.

Like they wanted, Ben is like so mature like that.

Like, yeah.

Rising tides raise all shades.

Yeah.

Well, not today.

Where'd they go to dinner?

You want to ask?

Yeah.

I feel like it's Jermaine, and I'm hungry.

Where did you guys eat?

Just curious.

Okay, I asked.

Okay.

Yes, I'm all caught up on Summerhouse.

And by the way, if you're listening and you hear like a little bit of a buzzing, the air conditioning in my studio is out.

And seriously, the fact that I showed up here today is I'm so committed to this line of work.

And you're going to have to deal with this little fan because it's the only thing keeping me from fainting.

But aren't you moving studio soon?

I'm really working on it.

It's just like a thing I've put on the back burner ever since Kyle Cook came for me.

Like I haven't been able to think of anything else.

Last night.

Everything came out.

Like I haven't been able to think of anything else.

Do you think you'll move before the summer or after?

No, after, which is like still.

But they did say the air conditioning is supposed to be fixed today, but they haven't been saying that for like two weeks.

For two years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So just like send prayers.

And if I look a little flush, like it's just the heat.

Okay.

So we're not worried about you.

Yeah.

And I know everyone's always worried about me.

Like, oh my God, she's too skinny.

Like things like that.

Yeah, things of that nature.

Things in which like that.

things of that elk

you oh summer house recap yeah so i'm all caught up i have so many thoughts first what are your thoughts on the season at large so good like it's so crazy how paige de sorbo is like so so uninvolved in any of the drama or storyline and she's my most favorite character like i can't wait i can't get enough screen time of her like i love her so much she's so gorgeous like it's literally sick and to be so gorgeous and have such a personality like it's like god does have favorites why god has favorites like for real it's and so stylish so beautiful so perfect so nice like you could say a bad word about her if you tried yeah i wonder where it comes from.

Like, I wonder what her, like, if in childhood,

was she ugly duckling?

I don't know, but she's not.

Because it's such a fire point.

Yeah.

So many thoughts.

Okay.

I'm just going to go through each cast member.

I love Jesse Solomon so much.

I would lay my life out on the line for him.

Him and Wes are really amazing additions.

It's high time like the men on the show started doing something.

Yeah.

Agreed.

Oh my God.

They hate to have it for Carl.

Like I can't.

Like, you know what it is?

And I've, I, this is, this is exactly why him and Lindsay, you could take Lindsay, you could argue both sides, whatever.

Like, I'm not going to take sides.

By the way, she was a child model.

She wasn't an ugly duckling.

Oh, that's so funny.

I think she modeled for Limited 2.

They went to Oceans on 19th and Park, Kyle and Ben.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

I love that restaurant, actually.

It's so good.

Oh, what was I saying?

Oh, Carl.

Here's what it is about Carl and Lindsay and

why I lean more team Lindsay, but it's definitely personality-based.

Lindsay, I feel I have a very similar energy to.

We're very like sort of tough love.

I hate the the word aggressive for a woman, but like straight to the point.

Yeah.

And what her saying, like, someone crushing it in life is, in life is a turn on for me.

Like, I get that.

Carl is extremely beta.

Like, I need sensitivities.

I need hugs.

Like, I'm sorry.

Like, no.

Even when I'm like not doing well and being a loser, like, it's like the loser you are, like, the more coddling and attention that you need.

When it's like, no, we, strength is rewarded.

And Lindsay's over here, like, doing the most, making double what Carl has made this year.

I can't believe he shared those numbers, what they make from Brandiels.

I I thought that was so interesting.

And that he was

not a woman.

Lame enough to say it's because he's not a woman.

Like, sorry, what's look at Craig on a reality show, booming business.

At Craig.

It bothered me so much that like, he's just so excuse.

And even that shit presentation Kyle gave him, like pennies on the dollar, like he's so grateful for it.

Like he's really loser energy, I think, when it comes to his line of work.

And I think Lindsay thinks the way that she's going to get him to do what she wants and to be the best version of himself is sort of tough love and just straight to the point.

She's not even, Claudia, she's not even being tough.

No, she's just asking questions.

And like not even asking interrogative questions to use his word.

She's just trying to understand the conversation.

Can't understand what was said if I don't like ask you what was said.

She's coming at him with like no

anger, no malice, nothing, but like he can't even answer a question.

Yeah, it's really

like blind support and she's not supposed to even have information, let alone opinions.

No, and by the way, like they're getting married.

She's been very clear about how much she wants to have children.

And

you,

this, like, lines of work and careers, really, I don't think she's unreasonable in wanting that to be figured out as soon as possible.

And like him still dilly-delling at the same company with the same guy, it's like a joke.

It's a joke.

And the fact that he had to leave the company because it was like a toxic

workplace for him.

He needed eight months to decompress from that job while he figured out his next step.

And then his next step is to go back.

She's right to say that it's like an ex.

And she also clarified on Watch What Happens Live because Andy was like, you don't really want to be a stay-at-home mom, do you?

And she was like, no, at that time, we're getting married soon.

I want to have kids immediately, which means like in a year, I could be on maternity leave, which I deserve.

Yep.

Like to have some time off once I've had a child.

And that's in the immediate future.

And what will Carl be doing for work?

Can I even go on maternity leave next year?

No, if he doesn't have a job.

No, it's so fair.

Especially when her, when she at this point is an influencer, entrepreneur, works for herself.

So like, if you're not working, you don't get paid.

It's not like a job where you go on maternity leave and it's paid and you get three months.

Like if you stop working for three months, you have no income.

If your husband's not working, you have zero income and you have a new baby.

Unacceptable.

Agreed.

I think she's totally justified.

I just think their methods of communication and deep down, like their personalities are not.

right.

And I don't know why I didn't see that earlier because last season I thought they were really good together.

But that was because he was like standing up for himself against Kyle and like really wanting to move forward.

And I was just like moving back.

And he was like cleaving on to Lindsay, like which a good husband and also like maybe a little bit of a lost man should do.

He's like, lean on your wife.

She is strong and she will help you, but do not like, but now he's not doing that.

He's villainizing.

He's finding her so adversarial.

And yes, they're obviously not the right match for each other,

but Kyle wouldn't be a better, I'm sorry, Carl wouldn't be, their names are just too similar.

Carl, Craig, and Kyle.

I don't know how we're supposed to get through this episode.

They're not the right match for each other, but Carl is not at a point in his life to find a match because he is not whole.

Yeah.

No, it's true.

And nothing to do with like his addiction or anything like that.

It's like as a man and like the things that like you need to do to like work hard and provide like he and he makes excuses.

So like there's no partner that would be better for him.

I mean, maybe like he could do the circuit of like a really young girl who like doesn't see the faults in him and then she like grows up and matures is like, what are you doing?

I think people forget Lindsay's age.

And I also think Lindsay gets a bad rap in relationships.

But what I've realized and I'm like loving Lindsay.

What I've realized is that she has horrible taste in men and she's, she has high expectations for a partner.

So those two things like really don't mesh well.

Because I don't want to use the word high maintenance, but I think she just has like high standards for what her partner should be doing for her in the relationship, for them, in their future family, in a career.

And she also picks bad men.

Okay, I don't think her standards have been high this season.

She's literally, he's been out of work for a year now.

She's put up with that.

Some people dating like a reality star who films a show like would be enough.

But she likes more than that.

She wants stability.

Yeah.

Because what's not being said is that they get paid to be on the show and to be on the show.

For sure, but the show is too seasonal out of the year.

If it weren't, think about what large other classmates do.

Like, think about Paige.

Paige, fashion contributor, podcast, podcaster, influencer, Amazon live host, reality star.

Like everybody does a million things because they film like eight weeks.

Yeah.

Lindsay, and I thought it was so dismissive.

And I get what he was saying.

He was like, you don't have to keep bringing up your, you know, old PR job, but having built a successful company, like, you're not a moron.

No, and you are poised to offer advice yeah and he was just like clearly threatened by that I just I don't like them as a couple and I if I'm gonna take a side it's certainly gonna be Lindsay's because I don't think she's being unreasonable I think her delivery is just like not picture perfect I need a hug sensitive delivery is picture perfect what more she's being so measured

what else could she how would it be better Objectively, what could she do better?

And then he goes and like sits with Kyle who like gasses him up.

He obviously doesn't like like them as a couple and he doesn't like Lindsay.

And so he just thinks he's so right and he thinks he's so, he has like this moral superiority.

It bothers me so much.

No, when the boys get together and like offer advice on the other's relationship.

The blind leading the blind.

I mean, the blind told, called his wife a fucking bitch.

Why are we listening to him?

Right.

And the other ones, like Jesse, I mean, at least Jesse Solomon knows enough to say, like, don't.

loot me into this.

I'm pitching tomorrow.

Like, I have no experience.

Okay, wait, other, other people.

I love the idea of Amanda creating a swimmer line for big-breasted women.

I think, first of of all, I'd be their number one customer.

And second of all, she does have this like really unique design, POV.

She's super talented.

I encourage her to do it.

I love that.

Wes and Sierra.

Like, everyone is obsessed with Wes.

And like, I get it.

I get it.

But like this whole, I don't know if I'm ready to be in a relationship, like, grow up.

I really have no time for that.

And like, no, the chickens are coming home to us.

It's been probably like six weeks of them having a good time.

So like this would be the time in any relationship for like to shit.

or get off the pod in one way like starting with exclusivity even so i feel like he's a great personality for like the first six weeks everything's really fun but i like that she's like laying down the law and like being serious and not gonna like keep living this way it's you can't not if you want something serious um danielle has been very quiet this season except for the breakdown in the shower um i'm sorry gabby has been really quiet this season except for the breakdown in the shower i happen to really like her um and i think she doesn't get like enough screen time and it's because she's like not like pursuing a relationship um and that sucks like that sucks i think like we're not getting to know her enough and if she does like not get asked back it's because they didn't give her enough screen time.

Cause I think there's a lot more there.

Yeah, I agree.

And all we do is get screen time for Danielle.

And I can't.

Her and Carl are like tied for my least favorite characters, probably.

When they had that conversation,

like there was a night, I think it was the night like Kyle was, Kyle was spiraling.

The three of them.

In the car.

The three musketeers talking about their like unsupportive partners and they don't know what it's like to run a business.

I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is embarrassing.

I'm embarrassed.

No, and I do remember saying this last season

when Danielle would follow Kyle out of the house every time he stormed out.

First of all, like, so not girls, girl energy.

And second of all, like, she's literally in love with Kyle and she always has been.

And Carl.

And her following him out to the car and like giving him a hug.

And he's like, I just want to be alone.

Like,

I can't.

Like, that was really painful to watch.

I thought that scene where she's like berating Gabby.

Chill.

Yeah.

And founder and CEO.

That's all I have to say.

And where's her app?

They had the launch party on last night's episode.

Yeah, is it not out?

That looks like a good idea.

Is it not out?

Like, you can't do it.

I don't know.

I didn't look, but I haven't, like, I haven't heard more, but I like the idea for the app, by the way.

Just want to say by the way, it's out.

It has 3.5 stars, 10 ratings, an absolute lifesaver.

Someone says, someone says it's okay.

That's not nice.

I'm not going to say that.

Yeah, you can't go by ratings.

No, I ran

a rating for my favorite app in my life.

It appears to be like

legit.

It's cute.

It's definitely a good idea if they're like, you know who she needs.

You know who she needs.

Paige.

Paige.

Yeah.

I have to say, I had enormous respect for Paige not going to Lindsay's bridal shower.

Yeah.

Like, it was weird.

You're invited to someone's bridal shower, but not their wedding.

And they're like just getting back on good footing.

So like it was nice of Lindsay to extend the olive branch.

I don't think it was rude of Paige not to go.

I understood her reasoning completely.

Yeah.

I would like for them to be tighter.

By the way, same.

But it's happening naturally.

I just have to be patient.

And I don't know if anybody's going to understand this call, but like, is it Wes or West?

Great question.

West, but maybe his nickname is Wes?

West is fibula-coated.

I'll just leave it at that.

Okay.

And Jesse Solomon is an amazing man.

The song, like, I was really liking him all season.

Everybody likes him.

And then he was so like vulnerable and emotional last episode.

Like, it was really nice.

And then the song just put me over the edge.

Like, you know, 1000%.

And I, and the line about him being a big Jew, like, I just am obsessed.

And I think it's so rare that A, like a man shines through without being in a relationship.

Like, Like, I remember there was a season where all we talked about Lewis Austin, but it was like this dumb, like, love triangle.

To stand out on your own because you're sensitive, because you're vulnerable, because you're funny, like, is so hard for a man.

And the respect, like, if they don't bring him back, seriously end the show.

No, I think they will bring him back.

I don't know why they wouldn't.

I want him to meet a nice girl.

A nice Jewish girl.

A nice Jewish girl.

Yeah.

And the fact that they put the whole song in the episode where I feel like people do silly antics all the time.

Like one, I was so grateful for it.

It was such a nice moment, like, among the whole house.

And I feel like, even the cameraman, like, everyone was just like having a good time.

Yeah,

loved him.

He's really, really cute.

And do you see anything between him and Amanda?

Oh, well, people on TikTok like put that in my head.

Yeah.

And now I'm watching it.

Like, when she went over and gave him

his hug, the post-recovery hug, like, when she was a kiddie, that was that was the only hug where she like hugged him like twice from two different angles, like arms under.

Yeah, I um,

I ship.

I didn't see anything before that, though.

But But I, did you ship?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

next week's the finale, Carl calls it off.

And we got all the lukes from the reunion.

And oh my God, Lindsay, like, you know, she just wanted to eat that up.

And she did.

And I think she's seeing someone new.

Like, I'm happy for her.

I really, I genuinely like want good things for her.

Yeah, she deserves them.

Yeah.

Okay, so a little out of order today, but now without further ado, let's get into the fast five stories that you need to know let's and just a reminder today's episode is brought to you by by heart yes it is which is super awesome super

our first story a little more alleged shade

so fans are convinced that billie eilish shaded taylor swift and beyonce's psychotic three-hour concerts by the way

I hate when, like, this is now the second time Billie Eilish has said something clearly about Taylor Swift.

Like, you don't need to put alleged in there.

Like, it's obviously about her.

Right.

Swifties are convinced that Billie Eila shaded Taylor and Beyoncé and their respective eras and renaissance tours by taking aim at marathon-length concerts.

She told her fans that doing a three-hour show is literally psychotic in a station head clip that went viral on Thursday.

She said, nobody wants that.

You guys don't want that.

I don't want that.

I don't even want that as a fan.

Even my favorite artists, I'm not trying to hear them for three hours.

That's far too long.

Now, this is just a bad take.

You know, I don't think anybody would be mad at an artist for doing more for

someone who paid for for a ticket.

Like, it's very generous of spirit.

At this point, hundreds of thousands of people have gone to Eras tour.

It's not really working.

I've not heard one person have that take, that it was too long.

Agreed.

Same with Renaissance tour.

Like, yeah, anything people were just wanting more.

This is like, okay, with the...

With the plastic waste take, it was clear, like, that was about Taylor.

And sure, like, an argument could be made about the environment, even though I don't think like on the list of things wrong with the environment, Taylor says vinyls are the issue.

This is just like a bad take, an incorrect take.

And it's giving jealous.

It's giving you couldn't perform for three hours.

So you don't.

Don't clown on other people for it.

Just like Beyonce and Taylor out here like giving people a night, giving people a reason to get dressed up, like literally changing the culture, making an impact on the economy.

Like how you could say, like seriously scrounge up anything to say that's negative about the Aerostor and the Renaissance store, like it's getting jealous.

Yeah.

I also feel like.

Maybe I'm just misremembering, but after she said the thing about the vinyls, then like Taylor and Billy were like together again.

No,

there wasn't wasn't a hug no and this week in particular billy dropped new music and i think in an attempt for taylor to a make a statement and b block her from going number one taylor has now released four different new versions of um

what's the album called ttpd with like different live versions because she's been playing ttpd songs live on the aerostorn she's been like recording them live and putting them so like to flood the billboard charts and block billy from going number one and then also i guess be wasteful oh so there's there's beef between them because i thought after the last time like Taylor did something that made me feel like she didn't care what Billy had said, like, wasn't angry about it.

No, but I feel like after this,

it's clear.

So the girls are fighting.

Like, I took Taylor's side in the first argument because I'm always going to take

Taylor's side.

I'm not a Billie Eilish, like,

girl.

But, like, if you wanted to go back and forth, like, I could see someone arguing what Billy was saying in that argument.

I just ride for Taylor and I'm always going to blindly support her.

And the vinyls didn't bother you.

They didn't bother me.

In In this particular case, like this is such a bad take and she really shouldn't have said it because it makes her look jealous.

It makes her look incapable of performing at that level.

And it just highlights that like you don't perform like Beyonce and Taylor.

So if I have X amount of money, I go see one of them over you.

Yeah.

It's a bad take.

No, and it's just cementing her status as a Fibissa Napunum.

It's cementing her status as a Fibissa Napunum, always dragging on and on.

And like a Fibissa Napunum at its core is going to find anything to be like, it's going to put a negative spin on anything.

And how you could put a negative spin on Renaissance and Aristotle.

And the store and Renaissance.

Which are, it's joy come to life.

It's bright colors.

It's music.

It's happiness.

It's like, seriously, Disneyland, it's the happiest place on earth.

How you could then, it's actually, she out Fibicana'd the Fibissana.

Like, she really went there to go make it negative.

Like, please stop.

No, it's seriously, it's like a parody at this point, how she can make anything just Miz.

Yeah, I can't wait to see what she takes on next.

Yeah.

Disney World, maybe.

She's going to out-Miz the Miz.

Le Miz.

Exactly.

Well, that's the latest drama.

Are you ready for our next story?

Am I?

Yeah.

Okay.

A little more Southern Charm drama.

The Southern Charm stars are causing drama because Southern Charms Katherine Dennis is cuffed and crying during DUI arrest.

The body cam footage from her DUI has

emerged.

Reality TV star Katherine Dennis had a total meltdown after she was pulled over for drunk driving in South Carolina, and her dramatic tear-filled arrest was all caught on video.

The former Southern charm star was not so charming during her leading role in this police dash cam footage obtained by TMZ.

Cops raced to the scene Monday following her three-car collision in Goose Creek.

We didn't know there was a collision.

Yes, that's what they said.

Last time?

Yes.

In the last article?

Yes.

Oh, I didn't know there was a collision.

You know, it was really bad.

And it makes her behavior in that dash cam video even more abhorrent, like knowing the damage she did.

Just shut the fuck up and sit there.

Geez, that is so, so bad.

I had two major thoughts after watching the dash cam footage.

One is like, I seriously would never be a cop.

My God, people are like, people are just awful.

Like she's being awful.

Like just disgusting.

The second is, Catherine Dennis is me if I ever got arrested, because I guess she was arrested while in possession of her dog.

And I never thought about what would happen if you're arrested alone

with the dog.

Like, I guess if you're with a partner, they would take the dog home, but they take the dog to the shelter.

And I don't think that clicks for her until they're putting, so she's actually like, she's being a bitch, but she's being calm.

The second she realizes that the dog's being taken to the shelter, and I think they're putting him in like a crate in the back.

They must carry crates with them.

Oh my God, she loses her goddamn mind.

Like, seriously, it's like just now being put into perspective for her that she's being arrested.

And like, she freaks out, give me the dog, give me the, like, seriously, so crazy.

And honestly, me.

I know, but like, to drive and endanger your dog, like, to drive drunk and endanger your dog.

In addition to other civilians.

Right, right, right.

But like,

what that, this is so, so upsetting.

I mean, she's not on the show anymore.

So like, I don't know what could be done.

What's going to, like, you know, what's next for her or whatever.

But like, just as a fan of hers.

Yikes.

I'm, I'm disappointed.

No.

And dash cam footage never does anyone any, you know, good.

I mean, obviously what comes to mind for me is Reese Witherspoon.

Oh, man, of course.

Reese Witherspoon's dash cam footage is seriously grossly under discussed.

She has

a PR expert should study how she went from that video.

Do you know who I am?

I'm America's fucking sweetheart.

Getting arrested for literally driving drunk.

I saw recently, I didn't investigate her.

She wasn't America's sweetheart in that moment.

She is now.

No, she was then.

She's been America's sweetheart forever.

Pigly Blonde.

You saw a comment what?

That it wasn't her driving drunk.

It was her husband.

And then I think she was,

but she also was arrested because

she was a drunk and then her behavior.

Yeah.

Well, she can be drunk.

Yeah, in the passenger seat.

Yeah.

But like

she drive drunk, and you got.

No, no, no.

She was just being a menace.

Stop saying that.

You're right.

And hindering police activity.

Yeah.

And like, what's the word?

She wasn't resisting arrest, but she was like hindering someone else's arrest.

So she was hindering someone else's arrest.

She was being a hindrance.

She was being an obstruction to justice.

Oh, that's what it is.

Obstructing justice.

Yeah.

When you're getting in the way of justice.

Being served.

Correct.

So this is bad for Catherine Dennis, as stated earlier this week.

But now having the video footage just.

And it's long.

Like she was, like, there was a lot of drama in the video.

Like, it was, it went in stages, and the dog thing was sort of like the climax of it.

Yeah.

Um,

she's just, she's being so disrespectful.

And like, like,

just,

I would seriously add it to the list of jobs I never want to be, a cop.

Yeah.

Like, dealing with the people at their worst.

I'm sure sometimes it's funny, but no.

No.

No.

Like, so miserable.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Which is some relatable news.

Am I?

Yeah.

Okay.

Because Serena Williams is being praised for showing her postpartum struggles after failing to fit back into a denim skirt.

So she's not skirting around the hard conversations.

Fans applauded Serena Williams for opening up about her postpartum body struggles while trying on a denim skirt that used to fit her before giving birth to her two children.

She said, Okay, everyone, I've been working my butt off.

Let's see what happens with my jean skirt.

Can I fit into it yet?

So So in the video, she's seen wearing shapewear.

She attempts to squeeze into the skirt.

She said, I've been gymming a lot, but I don't know if the needle is moving.

Let's see if Compton has a problem still.

So she struggled to get the skirt over her hips.

She said, I can't say I'm happy about this.

So she's getting a lot of praise for, you know, sharing this moment, which as someone who is also in this exact moment, like so much respect.

Anytime we talk about Serena Williams, my love for her grows.

Like, remember when she ate the dog food?

Like, seriously, her social media, she's not like crazy active, but she's always making waves when she does post because she's so funny.

She also just launched a beauty company.

I saw it everywhere on TikTok.

People are obsessed with it.

It's like a few product.

I think it's called Win.

Yeah, I think.

I love her.

Like, she's so real for this.

And I thought the story was going to be that she's getting backlash for like wanting to fit into something.

Like, can we just normalize like wanting to

get back into like a groove?

Yeah, or get back to the person that you've been your entire life.

And the last, like, your body changes when you go through pregnancy.

That doesn't mean you have to stay at the size that you are postpartum and that's not also to say that being the size that you are postpartum that there's anything wrong with that like right like everybody's decision is good here's the thing there's nothing wrong with any of it yeah and it's all good and i do think that sometimes we feel shamed for like wanting to bounce back now like it used to be you were shamed if you didn't bounce back and you didn't want to bounce back now we're getting shamed for talking about bouncing back or like praising it or even saying like you know excited acknowledging our successes and it's like can we not shame blame anyone in any part of this?

Like, it's a lot of people

on the postpartum game.

And so not only do I not want your shame or blame, I want to be able to talk about it.

Right.

And I want to, it's nice and comforting when you see someone else who's like, it's, it's a long journey.

It's not like you just either decide to stay as you are or bounce back.

Like, what about the, in the middle?

Like, I'm halfway between like where I landed postpartum and bouncing back.

And like this part is hard.

I've had to buy like all new clothes because neither side of the spectrum fits me.

Some of my like like pre-baby clothes fit, but not in the way that I want them to.

Like this sweater, it's a pre-baby sweater.

You guys maybe remember it from like 2020.

It's a little snug.

No, and like I think seeing someone like Serena Williams, who is an athlete, who like fitness is life, gym, like her whole life, to say like, I've been hitting the gym a lot and I don't feel like I'm moving the needle.

Like that is such a relatable statement for anyone.

But for somebody whose life at one point was fitness, like, oh my God, thank you.

Yeah.

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Also something that I never skim on was something that I learned like about a year ago hanging out with Bobby from Slave City, which is the importance of using grass-fed dairy products and grass-fed milk and cheeses.

And also by heart's whole milk is organic, grass-fed, not other products.

So that's like a major thing I line on with them as well.

And I feel like we have a lot of girlies who listen to the show.

who are either like pregnant, in the newborn phase, postpartum.

And when it comes to like self-care and like never skimming on yourself, I think that takes a backseat for a lot of people.

And it takes them like a while to be like, no, wait, I am also still a person in addition to being like a milk factory and a mom and, you know, a janitor and everything.

And what is like a piece of advice you would give?

Cause I feel like you did a really good job like balancing both for someone who like doesn't want to feel selfish while like, you know, and how do you, how do you effectively do both?

Like never skimming on yourself, but also your children.

I would say that I know I don't have time for everything that I used to like to do.

Most of the things that I used to like to do or that would fill my free time, but like identifying what are the most important things to you personally, and they're going to be different for everyone.

I would say for me, like it is doing my makeup, doing my, even if it were just, or on a day, like when I'm really in like the postpartum, think of it, like just skincare, like just putting something on my face, maybe like putting my hair up in a.

a bun with some product and like feeling a little bit more like myself.

Also, when you're in that like immediate postpartum phase, like not skimming on the loungewear that you want to buy and like the the comfy clothes that you're going to be in.

You need a good one.

You don't need like a million things, but like a few cozy products.

Like I love cozy pajamas.

I don't skim on my pajamas for me.

No, that's really a good way of looking at it.

So identifying like three things that you know are important to you to feeling good.

Maybe for some people it is working out.

That's not one of mine at that time, you know, that, but like going for it, like making sure you get a daily walk and like whatever it is for you, like don't skim on yourself and identify the things that are going to make you feel like yourself.

And I would say also probably communicating those to your partner is enormously helpful.

So you can be like, listen, let's say working out is one of those things, which that's crazy, but no judgment.

Everyone's journey with their own.

Being like, listen, I'm going to need you for 30 minutes to watch the kid.

Make sure, you know, and don't skim.

I'm going for a walk or I'm going, or of course you can bring your baby on a walk.

I'm going for a run.

And that's important to me.

And maybe there's something important to you and I will support you in that.

Yeah.

There's so many different things.

I feel like for some people, it's like date night or being able to go out to a restaurant, have a meal that you didn't cook for yourself or having a meal that you, sometimes it's like, actually, I want an hour to cook a nice dinner.

That's healing for some people.

So identify the things that make you feel like you.

Don't skim on that ever.

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Thank you, Jackie.

And thank you, Serena Williams, for sparking that really interesting conversation.

I love having interesting conversations, especially about like postpartum stigmas.

I know, not the stigmas.

The stigmas.

And like, what's crazy is like the stigmas have stigmas.

Yeah.

You know, because that's exactly what you were saying about Serena Williams, like the bounce back culture.

How, yeah, it was really toxic.

And now I feel like we flipped the other way.

And now it's like, what about both?

Yeah.

And what about like the middle time, the middle period where like the journey, it's about the climb.

I just fucking love Serena Williams.

Like that's kind of my thesis of the episode.

That's your takeaway?

Yeah.

Did you see that she tweeted something like a, uh, what was it, like a tennis racket or something?

Like, it was giving them coming out of retirement.

Oh, please, no.

I think that's like the worst move for a famous athlete.

Like going out as the goat.

And I don't think Serena Williams has to worry about anytime soon, anybody even coming close to beating any of her records.

Like she is so far superior.

Same with Tom Brady.

Like, ugh.

That's just like the theory.

Actually, Tom Brady had Patrick Mahomes on his ass.

Like, I actually think Patrick Mahomes played a part in

Tom Brady's thinking.

Like, let me get one more ring to get even further from Patrick Mahomes.

I know there's a lot of big, like Coco Goff, she's so far from what Serena Williams, like, records are.

There are men who are goats who are far away from Serena Williams.

Please, like, please don't.

I don't think it's only about protecting your records.

It's also, I imagine, like, if she's in this period in her life where she's...

Bouncing back, like, I'm sure one of the activities she likes to do is play tennis, right?

Okay, also, maybe she was just playing tennis and like tweeted, like, hey, I'm playing tennis.

Oh, yeah, could be that.

Could be nothing more than that.

But say she's like using tennis as a physical activity to get back in shape.

It might be her mind, and she's crushing it.

She might be like, What if I just went pro again?

Yeah, it seems like I actually didn't need to retire.

I'm really good.

I'm really good at this.

Yeah, it's possible.

Could be that.

Our next story is a little more Kardashians

news from the first episode because eagle-eyed fans are calling out Scott Disick for having the weight loss drug Manjaro in his fridge.

So, in the premiere of season five of The Kardashians,

they're in Scott's kitchen and his fridge opens up and he's like showing his like low calorie drinks, fruits and almond milk because they're saying like you look so good.

And like in his egg compartment, you could see Manjaro.

I just want to say, as somebody who was on a GLP-1 medication for many years, I also kept it in my egg compartment.

And I would just like anyone who's also currently or has been on any of these drugs, do you also keep, you have to keep it in the fridge?

And I don't know what about like the egg compartment.

You know, it's literally also for the box.

It fits in.

It's like a glove.

It is, right?

Okay, do you guys also keep it in there?

Like, we had like, me and Ben were both on it.

So we had like a couple of boxes.

It fits perfectly in there.

I want to say something.

I feel like this was planted.

Like the way it's like seriously, like front-facing, perfect.

He obviously staged his fridge for the episode, like, cause it's so perfectly clean and organized.

Like, I don't know why I felt like it was, because now we're talking about the Kardashians.

You think?

No?

I didn't know that, but I would, I would actually prefer that because it makes me like feel a little bad for him if like he exposed exposed himself in this way and like really was caught out and he he can share if he's on the drug or we've said so many times like someone doesn't have to share but like to have it like out there and you didn't put it out there that's a little sad and so i hope that your version is right but what would be the point of your version like

we're just we're talking about the kardashians episode like it's this is a business okay I don't know.

I feel like the Kardashians are all executive producers.

They don't have like flops like this.

Really?

They might not even think of it.

I don't know.

Am I wrong in thinking that's possible?

I hope you're right.

No, I hope you're right.

I like that better than damn.

He played, like, he exposed himself.

Yeah, but I think that

I would love if he talked about it because, you know, there was a period where he was overweight.

And it's clear that he used one of these drugs to get back on track.

He gets often cited as an example of somebody who took it too far because there's like old photos.

There was like one day he looked bad.

Yeah, yeah.

But like he was overweight.

And I I think because he had an accident too.

Right, right.

And a lot of things like made it difficult.

Like everyone's, everyone's weight journey, everybody has something that is stopping them.

Something that brings them to Manjaro in the egg container.

I just want to say, like, relatable.

I love this.

I don't know if it was like organic or not.

Either way, like we stamp.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No issues.

I actually sat down to watch Kardashians yesterday afternoon.

I wasn't feeling well.

And I was like, okay, great.

I'm just going to like watch some TV.

And my remote wasn't working and I couldn't get it on.

And so i didn't want you to watch i took a nap which is what i needed or ring was like very happy that i took a nap and then that was that actually i was out last night i didn't even tell you that i went out where did you go i went out what with mary orton no with olivia ashre oh my god i'm even more foma what did you guys do like have wine no we went to like a little bit at our friend's house Oh, friend?

Disgusting.

And I drove again at night.

I like when, like, now.

How many people did you kill?

None.

None.

I'm kidding.

I'm kidding.

I'm kidding.

But it's like it's now fun that I could drive Olivia

around.

It's probably so fun for Olivia.

Like she can have a wine.

Yeah.

I don't even think she did, but like she could if she wanted to.

Yeah, because you're like sober, basically.

Yeah.

You're not like a person in recovery, but you're literally don't know.

I'm a sober person, ATM.

You are a sober person at the moment.

Like I would love to live next to you.

Like, great, let's go to dinner.

I can get wasted.

Yeah.

But it is a little boring to get wasted alone.

Well, there were other people there.

Oh, well, I had dinner with the satchel last night.

So

the satchel

beat that.

I feel like we're literally even because it was sisters and sisters.

Yeah.

And how was

Dear Satchel?

Amazing.

We went to this restaurant that has like a secret menu that's all kosher.

They have a kosher burger, a kosher steak, a kosher chicken melonise, kosher chicken peyard.

So like we ate good.

Like I waddled home.

Yum.

I was actually thinking, oh, I just want to say people were asking for a sourdough starter update.

They were asking.

They were.

I've been feeding it twice a day because she was like, the bubbles were small and she was not ready.

But now it's like doubling every six hours.

And I think I might go for a bread like today or tomorrow.

And I'm excited about that.

And I also, I want to cook up a feast tonight, I think.

What should I make for dinner?

With the bread?

No, with the bread won't be ready for like three days.

That's the thing about it.

Like you really have to plan in advance.

What should you make?

Like the weather, super hot?

Yeah, so not like a beef stew or anything like that.

Yeah, because I was going to say beef stew.

Maybe you got to barbecue.

Like get some chicken on the grill.

I think we're going to barbecue like every day this weekend.

It's such barbecue weather.

But I should go get barbecue things.

Yeah, I'll be going to my country club.

Maybe a pasta salad.

I just want to say I wish I didn't check my phone during the episode because I have so many like very interesting text messages.

Like I see I have a voice memo from somebody and an Instagram DM from somebody else.

Just like very interesting, you know?

That you can't share on the show.

No, but I feel like you guys can guess.

Well, our fifth and final story is a little viral TikTok news, which is a great way to round out the week because...

And it's viral TikTok news that Jackie wanted to talk about.

Like, I didn't even send this to her.

She didn't send it to me.

You know who sent it to me?

Shannon Ford.

Shannon Ford sent it to me and she said, I don't know what you got planned for the fast five today, but I really want to hear your guys's take on this.

And I said, Shannon, I'll see how things shake out.

And Shannon, there was a spot for your story.

And it is this viral video of this wedding in Lake Como.

Gorgeous.

I think it's Lago de Como.

Lago de Como, new couple getting married and an overenthusiastic groom starts doing like a champray in the shower like he just won in a big NASCAR race and he starts champagne spraying his wife next to him.

Now, it's so disgusting for so many reasons, but he's, do you know how fast like champagne can shoot out of that bottle?

Like you can actually hurt someone if you're that close to them.

So like, okay,

calm down.

Hazardous two.

Are you fucking kidding me?

You're the dumbest person on the planet.

Like how many hours did your wife get ready?

How many thousands of dollars does her dress cost?

This is the biggest day of her life and you've just ruined her look.

And like you don't have the presence of mind in that moment to realize that this is a bad idea.

Like seriously, I'm worried for how this person crosses the street.

I seriously have to imagine that like they planned this.

Like, you know, you say like, we're going to jump in the pool at our wedding.

People do that all the time.

Like,

I seriously, like, I'm praying that they, she was like, yeah, do a champagne shower on me.

No, I think they planned champagne shower.

I don't think they had to caveat like don't or do turn it on me.

No bride wants this, especially like this is a fancy fucking wedding.

No, and this happens a lot where like things go viral at a wedding, mostly the groom being a dick.

And like, how do you,

how do you uh live with that like okay so it's the next day you're probably on your honeymoon the world thinks your husband's a prick maybe you're now seeing things like seriously i would love to hear from like a girl who went viral for her husband being a dick i feel like it happens a lot what happens to the marriage we never get updates oh i think they're in wedded bliss right now and it's so funny that their wedding's going viral and they're they're fine and also like she doesn't look so upset like in the like not like furious in the moment she's kind of like i feel like it'll dawn on her afterwards but sometimes like things get crazy at your wedding and i feel like they're just watching the videos and like laughing today

yeah but i do think this speaks to like uh

an idiocy in this man

i'm sorry my phone is distracting me um

by the way 1000 it also shows to like a

Maybe this is like me generalizing and like being dramatic, but like that's a bad husband right there, you know?

Like you're supposed to protect your wife as a husband.

Sorry.

Yeah, I'm really toxically traditional in that sense when it comes to gender roles in a marriage.

Like a man should protect his wife at all costs, physically, emotionally.

And

not only are you not doing that, like you're literally like physically and emotionally hurting her.

I'm cracking up.

Apparently, he posted on his TikTok a picture, like a video of them, selfie.

And it said day one of honeymoon.

I'm getting canceled on the internet for having fun with my wife.

Yikes.

No, he's giving really, really toxic.

Like, I need to hear from the wife.

She's welcome on on the show anytime.

Do you think there's like a girl out there who's super chill and like doesn't mind getting showered with champagne at her wedding?

Yeah, she doesn't get married in Lago de Como and she doesn't look like that.

Yeah.

Like I'm just using context clues.

Yeah.

So I'm wishing her well.

And seriously, her husband sounds so crazy and scary.

Like just like crazy.

Canceled for having fun.

Crazy, scary, stupid.

Yeah.

Not like.

evil nothing like that violent like seriously stupid to not in that second like put together that your gorgeous wife who spent months like getting her look ready, like that it wouldn't click for you, that she doesn't want to destroy it at the biggest day.

Like you shouldn't really on the biggest day of her, like her life.

Right.

In Lago to Como.

Some people just don't deserve to get married in Lago to Como.

Ain't that the truth?

That is our show.

It is our last show before the holiday weekend, so we're going to miss you guys.

We won't be doing a show Monday, but there is a Patreon podcast and video episode dropping.

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We love you so much.

Hope you enjoyed this really kind of amazing episode.

I've enjoyed spending time with you, Jackie.

I love you so much.

As always, I've enjoyed spending time with you and I love you dearly.

And I look forward to the long weekend so we can come back on Tuesday.

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