Lady Sitting with Justin Sylvester: Tuesday, May 7th, 2024

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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.

I am so excited for today's episode because I need to talk about things that I care about.

I need to talk about pop culture.

I need to talk about housewives.

I need to talk about Tom Brady at the roast.

And there is quite literally nobody better equipped to work with me today

than the one the only i keep calling you justina sylvester because ever since i used to call you the ladysitter because that was your username yes then you changed it more professional justin a sylvester to me i see it justina i'll take it i love it i will take it do you feel like justina perhaps is like a different side of you a different alter ego if you will i feel like justina's more professional than the lady sitter i love and i changed it because i was interviewing michelle obama Obama.

Oh my God.

And they were like, oh, give us your Instagram handle because if you post it, we'll go ahead and put it up.

And I couldn't have her post

on the lady sitter.

Did you change it that minute?

I changed it that minute.

First of all, I didn't know that story.

That's so funny.

Yes.

No, and honestly, as someone with a kind of weird username, I feel like literally, I was just outside in the lobby and I met Molly Sims.

She's a podcast here.

And she was like, oh, what's your Instagram?

And I felt like it's like an embarrassing, when it's not just your name.

No, that's, and that's true.

And also, I'm a gay man.

Like, so when other gay men are like, hey, let me hit you up on Insta.

Oh, it doesn't give like sexy vibes.

No one wants to fuck the lady sitter.

That is, I do, but I am unique in that.

You're unique, and you're also a woman.

That's an amazing point, actually.

No dude wants to like hook up with a dude named Lady.

It's so true, but I just want to say the lady sitter is gone, but not forgotten.

It's coming back soon.

We love.

In a different iteration.

We love.

It's going to be pretty.

Secret project.

Secret project.

Tell me everything.

It's been a while since you've been on the toast.

You are really crushing and career-wise.

You're one of the people who I feel like I just love to keep up with because you've had so many different phases of your career, but you're always at the top of your game.

I know you don't even prep for this.

I know you're just going to be hilarious and amazing.

Like you have such a natural ability to talk and you get paid to do it for a living.

And it must be so fun.

No, it really is.

And by the way, I will do this with you any day of the week because I know when I need you, you're going to come running to me.

A thousand percent.

And I do love to talk.

I love to talk people.

I love to talk pop culture.

I like to connect with with people.

And e-news is a little different from daily pop.

So anytime I get to do that, I'll do it.

I'm here for it.

And I love how E has gone through like a few iterations with their lineup and stuff, but you are always at the center of it.

Like I feel like they know what they have with you.

And the fact that you host e-news like is so crazy.

I majored in communications.

And whenever we had like a intro class, like day one, it was all girls, by the way.

And everyone, one of the questions was like, where do you see yourself?

What do you want to be?

And all the bitches were like, I want to be the next Juliana Ranc.

By the way, didn't we all?

You are.

How does it feel?

Like, you are the thing.

No, no, it's not.

By the way, it is kind of wild.

I'm not the type of person that when I'm in something, I could see it.

I need to like step away from it.

Like, I need like my eight-year tenure to end.

Yep.

Or like to go on a vacation for like a month and then say, oh, wow, I'm doing that.

Jackie says that all the time.

She's never able to like understand how big something is until it's over.

No, no, I can't.

I cannot, cannot do it.

So for me, and I was the same way, I was like, what do I want to be when I grow up?

And, and, you know, every model wanted to be Victoria's Secret Angel.

Every person with a personality wanted to be a vision.

Wanted to be Juliana.

But everybody with camera presence wanted to be Juliana Orion.

And, you know, I'm grateful that I get to have those people come before me.

But you're so unique in the sense that people who sign up to be like an entertainment reporter or even just somebody who interviews other people, those people themselves usually are not bursting with personality because a a lot of your job is listening.

Oh, 100%.

And a lot of your job is unfortunately not about you.

No.

It's about the person you're talking to.

Yes.

So more often than not, you don't find someone who's so dazzling in that role because it's really more of a listening type of role.

But you have this uncanny ability to shine through without overshadowing the person.

I love, and you do such a great job on your social media of sharing, like, you know, you and J-Lo, and you're always making me giggle.

And I'm supposed to be looking at J-Lo, but I'm looking at you.

But you do it in a way that's not overbearing.

It's really a very delicate balance.

And you are so good at what you do.

Thank you but it's because i'm a fan yeah like i'm a fan of all these people so true and when i go to work or when i'm interviewing somebody first and foremost if their a lists are e-lists it's their moment yeah like let's make them feel special make them feel special and if you're not into the interview i never go to something i'm not into have you had any like blunders like i feel last year when hugh grant was being interviewed by ashley graham and like she was asking dumb questions but he was being a prick yeah and like people who so clearly don't don't want to be there.

How do you navigate something?

Do you have a moment like that?

Like in your Roman Empire moment?

I've had a few.

I've had a few.

And you know what?

Joel McHale was kind of sort of the first one.

Really?

Joel McHale had this like really crazy relationship with E.

Right because of the soup.

Yeah, he would dog E every chance he would get.

And I was on the Today Show one time doing a segment.

It was my first time doing the segment.

It was huge.

Huge.

And Joe McHale would come at me like everything I said.

He would come at me with something.

But it was kind of a great learning curve for me on keeping up.

Like,

if I can keep up with a Joel McHale, you can keep up with anyone.

You can keep up with anybody.

Okay.

It's so true.

If I can dodge Joel.

And after the segment, he came up to me and was like, by the way, I just want to let you know, I did not make that easy for you.

And you handled it very well.

And I was like, thank you so much.

You know, and those are the moments that really like make you and shape you and they're horrible to go through, but they're terrible.

It's, yeah.

There's also like a time where you get on a carpet and E is normally second or third.

It's major.

Yeah.

Entertainment tonight is first.

So a star will go to entertainment tonight.

Then they'll go to extra and then E will be like third on the carpet.

And a lot of people want to be first, but I like to see warm them up.

Warm them up.

Warm them up.

And there's like an A-list actress who was like on the carpet and I could tell she was not feeling it that day.

Sometimes they're not in the mood.

Sometimes they're not in the mood.

And by the way, they're human.

Yeah.

Sometimes you're not in the mood.

Sometimes I'm not in the mood.

Yeah.

You should still be nice.

She's gonna.

And she came up to me and I said, damn it, you're not in the mood tonight i'm gonna make this quick and painless and then she's automatically like feeling you automatically feeling me

because at the moment you just recognize them yeah and you saw them for who they were and they've been in glam all day and they've been in glam all day you know what i mean yeah like i worked for kyle richards for five years friends for 15.

and I know when someone is not feeling it.

You know, sometimes she just doesn't want to be Kyle Richards.

She wants to be the girl an ass went on a bike.

100%.

100%.

We talk a lot on the toast.

Something that's actually, and I think that whole Ashley Graham, Hugh Grant thing was a catalyst for that conversation is a lot of these networks are pulling talent who are not trained journalists.

And it's more so like having an influencer or, you know, a celebrity come in and be the interviewer, not someone like yourself who has years and years of experience of hosting.

Yes.

What are your thoughts on this trend?

And that's why like Hugh Grant was being asked questions and he was being a dick, but they weren't amazing amazing questions and he's you know someone who's been in hollywood a million years and it's like yeah what do you think about that listen i think that what networks are doing

is it's a step in the right direction i just think the approach and the um the way they put it together is short-sighted okay because for me Had Ashley Graham been with someone like myself,

she can bring the glamour.

Let me do the heavy, heavy lifting.

You could be the celebrity.

Are you on the encyclopedia?

You know everything.

Yeah, yeah.

And I think that's, I think what they're missing is that pairing.

Yep.

You know what I mean?

Like, I always say, like, I love that people are getting a shot at doing this.

Of course, it's so fun.

It's so fun.

But the good thing about what we do is

whenever you see somebody at the Oscars, it's the last thing they're going to do for their film.

Right.

Okay.

So follow me here.

It's the pinnacle.

It's the pinnacle.

Yeah.

It's the, it's the end of the race.

Yeah.

If you are a, let's say, Ashley Graham or like an influencer and this is your first time on the carpet with these people, the first two minutes of this whole interview is you getting to know them and being and just kind of sort of saying hello.

Yeah.

As for like a journalist like myself, we've been at the premieres.

We've been at the junkets.

It's the fifth time.

It's the fifth time.

This season.

This season.

Yeah, that's the season.

So when they come up, we know what they've already answered.

We know what they don't like to answer.

We know where they want this to go.

Yeah.

So for networks out there,

always pair your influencers with a rich people who know what they're doing.

And that's what's so great about e-news.

Like, and I feel like we're always talking about this on the toast when it comes to you and to Kelty.

She is like an old school journalist.

She is such a pro.

Girl.

And that's what's so great.

It's like going back to those roots.

And I love that they did that.

Same.

With you and Kelty and with e-news, like bringing it back, but with like, OG, like you and Kelty are entertainment reporters, like to a, to a T.

I love it.

Like, I love it.

It's such a, because I feel like for everyone, like myself included, it was a dream job growing up.

Oh my God.

Everybody wanted to be Juliana Rancic and there was only one Juliana Rancic and Ryan Seacrest.

And it's such a major show and it's such a major franchise and it's such a major job.

And the fact that you got it, like I'm just thank you.

Perfection.

Perfection.

Thank you.

You know, I think it's one of those things where

Juliana and Ryan were regular people who were fans, who became big household names.

But they did the work.

They did the work.

But when you looked at them, you thought, oh, I could be that person.

Accessible.

I could be accessible.

I could be that Juliana.

And I think that's why reality TV is such a huge thing in our, in pop culture now is because they're accessible.

Yeah.

And anyone can be them.

Everyone has a Ramona in their lives.

Everyone's.

I think we all have a little Ramona inside of ourselves.

I'm more of a Dorinda.

I actually don't agree.

Because I know you very well.

And I do not think you are a Dorinda.

You have like, she doesn't have a sharp tongue.

She just kind of says like the meanest thing she can think of.

That's not you.

You're, who is somebody?

You're a little bit like Bethany in that sense, where everything you say is very pointed and well thought out.

I'm very, you know what it is?

I am very careful with my words.

Yes.

Because I have learned living in Los Angeles that people, especially in Hollywood, loose lips, sink ships, and no one's ever.

Ladies out there,

you have to be very crystal clear about the mood you're in you got to set the tone yeah because when people repeat something you can't trust that they're gonna repeat it exactly how you said it exactly how you said it or in the context yeah do you la is so interesting to me and you've lived here for how long 16 years and you have like a huge social life here like tons of friends love it you're a very social person um and i feel like even the group of friends that we that I know you through like that we share lots of drama and everyone's always gossiping and I love that I'm like a little out of it because I live in New York.

And I always, I'm like, I'm a spectator.

I'm like, oh, what's the team?

What's going on?

But I'm not like a mover and shaker within the gossip because honestly, like, I couldn't handle LA gossip is different.

It's different.

It hits harder.

It hits harder.

And also, you never know who you're talking to in LA.

Like, it could be someone huge.

100%.

A big executive.

100%.

I keep my mouth shut when I'm here.

Oh, no, no, no.

I'm not.

By the way, if we're not talking in codes.

Yeah.

And

if we're not talking in codes, there's like goes.

I also pick and choose who I gossip with.

Like, I have a gay friend who I can gossip with about gay things.

I have a bougie white lady in LA who I can gossip with about bougie white lady things.

Yep.

You have to find those vaults.

Your people.

My people.

I correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe I am one of your people.

Yes.

And you could, I would say we, we have a long phone call quarterly.

100%.

And I know, I see that call coming in.

It's not FaceTime.

It's on the phone.

It's business.

You are old school, by the way.

You're like the only person who calls me.

And by the way, I'm cleaning.

I'm organizing closets.

Of course.

I'm like getting shit together.

I'm getting my plate,

my pleasure chest all like situated and stocked up.

But I know when that phone call comes in, I need at least 30 minutes.

So sometimes I literally, I won't, I say, listen, I need 20.

I need to get my paired.

I got to take my makeup off.

I got to put my hair up.

I got to get in bed.

I got to get my phone stand.

Come right on through.

Oh, it's the best time of year when Justin Sylvester calls.

But it's also because we're...

I like to warn people about things happening.

In their orbit.

In their orbit.

So like you don't step in shit or walk through.

It's actually very true.

Maybe it's not even gossip.

It's almost like cautionary.

Yeah.

I feel like whenever I come to LA, I know like the layout of the people we know because you really give me a lot of just, I just, I never want, you don't need to know the details.

What I'm walking into.

You just need to know the outline of what's up.

You can fill in the blanks.

Yeah.

But I will give you the outline.

It's almost this like older brother energy.

Yeah.

Looking, you're just looking at what's not gossip.

You're just looking out for me.

I'm just looking out for you.

These are the lengths we will go to to convince ourselves that we're not gossiping.

But we are.

And it's okay.

That's one of my core tenets.

And we always talk about it at the show.

I don't know like who is is doing the PR for gossip, but gossip gets a bad rap and it's fine.

It's amazing.

It's healthy.

It's healthy.

When you do it, by the way, I always say this.

I have my four friends, I have my core four who I've had for 15 years.

We will talk about each other to one another and we will never take it out the group.

Yeah.

And I don't care.

And I said this to my friend this morning.

If someone comes up to me and says, oh my God, your best friend's so cute.

I don't care if that motherfucker's bankrupt.

I don't care if he has a lien on his house.

I don't care if he's missing one eye.

I don't care if he's about to go to jail for domestic violence.

I will be like, yeah,

that's a winner right there.

You better get this man.

You gas him up.

I'm going to gas him up.

That's a good friend.

He's on trial.

Even if he's on trial.

No, don't.

Do you think that if you're like, seriously, like your friend is, you know, being courted by someone on their way to prison and you're gassing them up?

Do you think that's you being a good friend?

That's me being a great friend.

Okay.

You stand by what you said.

I'm going to stand by what I said because you lied.

innocent until proven guilty.

Did he lie?

Innocent until proven guilty.

I don't know.

I just feel, especially in Los Angeles, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Like you go up to a guy and you're like, oh, your friend's kind of cute.

And their first thing they say is, oh, but she's a mess.

And I'm like,

I don't know.

That's weird.

I just, I just find it weird when your friend can't find something nice to say about you first.

Agreed.

Well, that's not a friend.

No.

Because the people I love and I know, I couldn't stop saying positive things about them.

100%.

And by the way, if I can't find something nice, I would be like, oh, he's not available right now.

Oh, you're creative.

He's in transition right now.

Speaking of, are you available right now?

I always ask you that.

And you're very good about keeping your private life private.

And I think it actually really helps you like have a really balanced life.

Yes.

So feel free not to answer, but people always want to know.

And are you the type of guy?

I feel like people are always wanting to set you up with their friends.

You know what's interesting?

People never set me up with the right friends.

White ladies are the worst.

Yeah, white ladies are the worst at setting up gay friends.

No, because they just say gay, gay, go.

They don't know top, bottom,

come on, Claudia.

I'm well versed in gay culture.

Come on, Claudia.

Well, okay, so what did you think?

When I wanted to set you up, and I'm still holding out hope for you and Brian Kelly.

It's going to happen at some point.

And you think that's a good match?

I think it's a good match.

Because he thinks so, too, but you guys are just sort of like two ships passing in the night.

Like when it first got brought up, he was about to have his first kid, and he was just not in that type of place.

And then you were seeing someone, and then he was seeing someone.

It will happen.

I think it'll happen at some point.

Okay.

I think Brian and I will happen at some point, even if we're third husbands at 76.

Love.

Will happen.

But it was a good match.

Thank you.

It was a good match.

It was well thought out, too.

I didn't just say, like, oh, I know two gay people.

Let's put them together.

Yeah, yeah.

But that is how it is sometimes.

Brian's in Pennsylvania.

He's playing with horses.

It's not the right time.

No, no.

And, you know, I'm a Scorpio.

Meaning, I'm not into that stuff.

So.

Oh, so I'm like, I'm the type, I'm such like a, I'm a bitch in the sense that like,

if I know you like me and I'm into you, but I know I can't have you, I will still have you and then run away and then make you realize, think, oh, why didn't he like take me?

But I just wanted to like, so you're toxic.

I'm kind of, no, no, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

am I?

Okay, wait, Brian's birthday is March 7th.

What does that make him?

I have no clue.

Me neither.

I'm so like not into, that's very LA.

I'm into it for myself to know like what I am.

And if I end up dating somebody, what I do is i always read our charts together you do yeah so i have someone read the charts together just so i'm aware and they're aware that's very la of you it's super la what would like your friends from home say if they knew that you did that

I think they would just be happy to know that I'm like interested in someone.

You know what?

They sound like great friends, actually.

They are.

And by the way, they've all had kids at 23.

So like they're like, oh my God, like, what are you doing?

Right.

They're interested.

Yeah, they want to know everything.

That's nice.

Yeah, it is nice.

And I, you know, it's a bummer, though.

We're on all different life tracks.

Yeah.

And when I'm about to start having kids, they're about to graduate.

Coming out of it.

Yeah, you know, so it's like, it's really a bummer, but I wish I could live there.

Well, so I was going to ask you because Sebastian Manascalco was on the show yesterday and he grew up, you know, very middle class.

He said northwest suburbs of Chicago.

And his life now is so different because obviously he does really well.

He also married a girl who he said, you know, came for money and they live a nice life.

You know, he cold plunges.

He plays pickleball.

And some of the things that are, he does prolon.

Yeah.

Some of the things like that are a part of his life would send his, you know, home friends into an early grave.

Yeah.

What is something that you're like, what is so LA about your life that would send your, you know, home friends into a tizzy?

Oh, they would.

Because you're very into LA culture.

Oh, they would flip if they knew I had meal delivery service.

Oh, yeah.

Now that I only like, oh, this is going to sound so bougie.

Say it.

Oh, but that business class, once you do it one time.

I'm so glad you brought that up.

It's It's actually like you shouldn't fly business class because once you do, you can't go back.

And I was that girl who was like, Expedia, price alerts, give me the lowest price.

Oh, middle seat in the crate area.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, next to the baby.

Cargar, sitting in cargo.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, in a crate next to a chicken.

I am good.

Then you have that business experience.

Yeah.

And bitch, let me be real.

Yeah.

I pass out before the flight even takes off.

Oh, I wish I could do that.

So I shouldn't even be enjoying.

I'm not even enjoying the business.

That's a disgrace.

But if you had been sitting in coach, would you be able to sleep?

Like a baby.

Oh, but that's a waste of money.

Like a baby.

But when you have it for the first time, it's just, it's a lick.

It's also so funny, like, what people are really particular about.

I'm the same way where I really, really, like, I can't, I love to sit in first class.

Like, it means so much to me.

With Ben, like.

He if he's sitting in first class or he's sitting in the last row behind the toilet, it means nothing to him.

But yesterday, we checked into the hotel he calls me an hour later because i was working he's walking around the hotel with the manager looking at different rooms he didn't he's so specific about hotel rooms i walk in i'm like the room is fine he's like it's not the one i wanted he's crazy but like first class he thinks it's the biggest waste of money and he's also broad i thought it would like he he'll he'll give me the seat like he doesn't care he does not care you know that's so weird that i don't relate to the hotel room thing me neither a bed is a bed a bed is a bed i'm never in there never and honestly i find like hotel suites to be so wasteful.

Like, I like a regular room.

Hotel suite is so big.

The TV is so far away.

I like the TV right up my ass.

Like,

I agree.

And if it's a good trip, I haven't been in my hotel room all day and I'm not going back till later.

Like, it's nothing.

If I'm on a cot.

Well, okay, I draw the line.

No, no, I will.

If it's free, I will get in the cot.

Oh, if it's free, it's free.

If it's free, I'm getting on a cot.

100%.

Except that Cotrella.

I'm just like, I'm 37 now.

I agree.

We're women of a certain age.

You know, that's so funny that you asked that.

Yeah.

But I, like, I'm just like you, like, I love first class.

Like, it's the best thing on the planet.

It's weird.

It also makes me want to work harder.

It's definitely motivating.

I agree.

It's definitely motivating.

And I think, you know, for myself, I grew up watching, you know, 902.10 and Merlro's plays and like, you know,

gossip girl.

And that life, my mom was a single mom with, you know, made $30,000 raising three kids by herself.

Like, I had to make straight A's to get a pair of jeans.

100%.

And the jeans better be 50 bucks.

100%.

Like my life was

so different.

And watching those people and going to a Catholic school where everyone got cars when they were 16 and I knew I wasn't going to get one, it really made me want to work hard

and hustle.

And being able to buy my own car at 17 and have an apartment at 16 and do all of these things and be independent was the biggest flex for me.

No, and you ended up so much better off because of it.

I really did.

And so much so.

It's so weird because I always say I want to marry somebody with means, but I have a hard time taking anything from anyone.

Yes.

It's like I dated this rich older man forever and he was always like, oh my God, let me get you this.

Let me get you that.

And I look at, I look back and in my 20s, I was like, no, it's okay, John.

I'll do it.

Like,

yeah.

And I'm so dumb.

I should have taken everything that he was offering.

No, but I get it.

And I feel like it's such a testament to, like, you know, I was also raised raised by a single mom and like single moms are a different breed.

Different breed.

And they, the kids they raise are a different breed too.

Fucking breed.

And I think so much of your success can be tied to that hustle and that instinct to just want like exactly how your mom, when she got up in the morning, like she was doing it for you.

You know, that sort of instinct.

I love meeting.

And so many of the most successful people I know were raised by single parents because it's just a different level.

Oh, it's a whole different level, especially boys raised by single moms.

Well, yeah.

You know, I have a friend who's a single mom and she talks about it.

Like she wonders like, oh, what's my son going to be like?

Am I, should I give his dad another chance?

I'm like, listen, I was raised by a single mom who had a tenth of what you're working with yearly.

Yeah.

You can do it.

Yeah.

You know, she's a celebrity.

She's out there.

And, you know, she's having a hard time like

coming to terms with the fact that she's

a mom.

This is her life.

Yeah.

I'm like, your kid's going to be the greatest, you know, prospect for any girl out there.

It's true, by the way, because you grew up with such a deep respect for women.

If you're like a boy who's raised by a single mom, specifically.

100%.

I was also raised in the 90s.

Yeah.

Kids who went

on playgrounds between the years of 87 and 97 and survived.

Yeah.

Which we are, we're winning survivor every year.

Built different.

Tonka trucks.

That's funny.

Tonka trucks.

That's so true.

My delicate girl, my girlfriends who are here who are delicate, soft, who like can't take, you know, any type of rejection or like a no and are in their feelings for four months i'm like no girl i had to run through a playground every single goddamn day get up survive i had to survive it's at the end of the day justin it's about survival that's all it's about now you are here to do what we love to do best and that is just talk shit and talk about what's going on in the world and we haven't done an episode we have a lot to talk about last night here in la was the tom brady roast which made a lot of waves.

So Justin, let me ask you a question.

Are you ready for the fast five stories that you need to know?

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Okay, I really want to talk about the roast from last night.

And more specifically, a couple of things.

But the first story is Kim Kardashian getting booed.

Yeah.

I would say one of the most viral moments.

And by the way, a lot happened at the roast, but the thing everyone's really talking about is it was live.

So, you know, it couldn't have been cut out.

It was live streamed on Netflix.

Yeah.

And she got up there to roast Tom Brady.

There was, what, like 20 people who did it.

But when she got up there, the crowd started booing.

It's kind of wild.

It's wild.

I feel like like celebrities, but Kardashians specifically, do not put themselves in these types of situations.

Like this doesn't happen to them.

No, it doesn't happen to them.

And you know what, though?

When it does happen to them, they handle it really

well.

She was graceful.

That's, that's a good point.

She's graceful as can be.

And I've seen her in hot spots.

You know, when you're, listen, when you're killing it that much,

it's like polarizing.

People are so jealous.

People are so jealous.

There's a weird, weird space.

And I think a lot of times when these, you know, let's say reality girls or these

singers go into other arenas, like sports.

It's more about sports last night.

People get a little like, oh, stay in your lane.

Yeah, I think a lot of people thought that the booing was like, you know, Taylor Swift versus Kim, because that feud has come back to the forefront now with Taylor's new song.

But when you think about who was in the audience, you're right.

It's sports people.

It's the same way at the beginning when Taylor would go to Chiefs games and they would put her on the Jumbotron.

People were booing.

People were booing.

It's like, stop.

I don't think this particular thing had anything to do with Taylor.

I think you're right.

It's like, think about who's going to the roast of Tom Brady.

Yeah.

It's like toxic men.

It's a toxic man, and they don't want to see their reality star there.

It's like a man's face.

It's blah, blah, blah, blah.

So, no, you're right.

It wasn't about Taylor.

I probably would have never went.

If you were Kim.

If I was Kim, I would have been like, you know what?

I'm showing up.

I'm going to walk on that stage.

I'm going to make two jokes about myself, and I'm walking right back to that car.

Yeah, that's literally what she did.

You know what I mean?

So I don't know.

It's just about, I think, getting in a different arena.

But I think also participating in a roast.

First of all, like being Tom Brady, I would literally never.

Big money.

Because big money.

Big fucking money.

One of my favorite documentaries I always talk about is Joan Rivers' piece of work.

And during the time they're filming her, she agreed to do the comedy Central Roast.

And she was so dreading it.

But she's like, everyone's like, it's a rite of passage.

It's an honor to be roasted.

And she's like, fuck that.

Like they spend the whole time making fun of how you look and your career.

And it was this thing she so deeply didn't want to do.

And you could tell it was like this plaguing her the entire documentary.

Just dreadful.

And

they pay you so much and she was a hustler joan she was never going to turn down a financial opportunity and she did it and she said it was horrible like she hated it crazy and by the way tom brady doesn't need the money tom brady doesn't need the money i will say this

i'm gonna give this

her props nikki glazer

is unbelievable if someone ever tells me that nikki glazer is not funny i will find you like liam needs it and make you watch this roast Nikki Glazer is funny, point blank, period.

She's a super talented comic, but she has had like three or four viral appearances at different roasts.

My most memorable one was when she did the roast of Alec Baldwin.

Holy shit.

She didn't hold back for a second.

Last night was no different.

She was absolutely the star.

Absolutely.

I love that for her, by the way, because there are so many male comics on there, and I feel like they just put a woman there, like to say that they did.

And the fact that she ended up being the funniest with the most cutting, clever jokes.

I was, I love her.

It was so good, but it was so good.

Let me ask you a question.

What do you think Giselle thinks this morning?

So,

a lot of jokes about Giselle, and then the second story that I want to talk about was the joke they made about Bridget Moynihan.

But, Giselle, yes, because obviously that's like the most top-of-mind thing right now.

A lot of jokes about, you know, her vagina and her fucking Krav McGah instructor.

And

it's really unfortunate.

Like, it's, it's almost like that's what I don't love about roasts.

Like, Tom Brady signed up for this.

She's a casualty.

She did not.

And if you just saw the most recent

body camera footage where she got pulled over by the cops and she's like literally having a mental breakdown crying that the pop Razzie are following her, she's clearly like, you know, not in an amazing place.

No, I will say though,

I feel like it was kind of sort of 80-20.

In terms of Giselle jokes.

In terms of Giselle jokes.

Yeah.

It was more about him leaving his family to go pay another, you know, season of football.

Of course she left you.

Of course she, you know what I mean?

I i loved that i loved it i really did love it you know i think she is one of those people though who gets it she knows what she married yeah and by the way i hope so we forget about this she also had to live through the you were the reason why he left his pregnant girlfriend okay so she's got some tough skin she definitely does and honestly because i love the show blue bloods that bridget moynahan stars in and I just feel like it's one of those things in pop culture like people don't know about.

But for me, it's one of my pop culture Roman Empires.

tom brady leaving bridget moynahan while she's pregnant to go have kids and get married to giselle and then his kid with bridget moynahan sometimes lives with giselle and him like it's the most up thing on the planet and i just want to say like i appreciate like him getting dragged for that last night because i'm sorry that's just something you don't do that's rich lady though it's insane that's rich lady shit but we also don't know

please tell me you saw the tweet that she liked the other day okay wait who bridget myhan no so i I saw she posted like a cryptic thing on Instagram.

So that was actually my second story.

Perfect segue.

So Bridget Moynihan posts a cryptic message after Tom Brady is roasted for dumping her MIG pregnancy.

So she shared a cryptic quote via Instagram on Monday after her ex Tom Brady was roasted in the GOAT, which aired on Sunday, yada, yada.

Tom Brady was slammed for breaking up with the model while she was pregnant with their son Jack in 2006.

So she shared a quote, Bridget Moynihan.

Loyal people take shit more personal because they never would have did that, would have done that shit to you.

And then she wrote so true so i don't really get the quote how do loyal people take shit more personal because they never would have did that to you is she calling herself the loyal person i think it's about somebody else oh you think it's unrelated i think it's unrelated okay i also think i've been in situations where i've seen people go through marital stuff

while they're pregnant and things aren't what they seem on the outside.

So we don't know the whole story.

We don't.

And we will never know the whole story because there's her side, there's his side, and there's something in the truth.

So we will never know.

Yeah.

But

it tells me a lot

that she is allowed, Giselle is allowed to not only be around the kid, but to post the kid.

No, that's true, actually.

That's true.

Because if my, let's say my fiancé.

Let's say you're Bridget.

Let's say I'm Bridget.

And my man left me while I was pregnant and I was caught off guard and I had no idea and I was struggling with it.

There is no way in my mind that I would allow my child to be featured on someone else's.

Social media.

That's really, really true.

You know what I mean?

Like, look, I know he has to go to your house 50% of the time.

Of course, legally, I can't say no.

But I can tell you not to post him, especially if you're Giselle and you have millions of followers.

125%.

So I think they're kosher.

Well, I mean, so much time has passed, and I do like some, like, everything works out for the best.

I'm sure Bridget Moynihan's really hot.

I know she's married.

By the the way, her new man is Hawk.

Yeah, like she's fine.

And successful.

She's fine.

I don't think she's up at night talking about that.

No, she's good.

I am.

Right, right.

I still, I'll just never get over it.

By the way, I don't know if I would ever get over it either.

So actually, a little personal anecdote.

I think I've shared this on the show before, but I love, like I said, I love her show, Blue Bloods.

And I was actually invited.

to set to like watch a taping or whatever.

And I'm like in those chairs with the headphones watching.

It's like a family dinner scene.

So the whole cast is there.

And me and Margo, we're obsessed with the show.

We're having the best time.

And in between tapes, they're wearing their mics and I can hear everything.

So they're all just talking.

They're all close with one another.

And someone was, oh, this, one of the younger girls on the show said she started dating this guy who lives in Boston.

And Bridget Whitehead goes, I used to date a guy who lived in Boston.

And the whole table started laughing, obviously talking about Tom Brady.

And she said it in a way very casual, like it wasn't bitter.

It was like, you know, when you've healed from something, you can talk about it.

So I agree.

I don't think she's up at night still.

I actually don't think anymore, like this is her Roman Empire.

No.

For me,

I'll never not talk about it.

By the way, I didn't even have the baby, but I'm still claiming the C-section scar that you should have seen me have.

A thousand percent.

And you know what?

I'm glad that this roast happened because, you know, Tom Brady is super, super famous and we don't think about this anymore.

No.

But he did that shit.

And you know what?

I'm sure Bridget Moynihan got her flowers last night, briefly.

I'm sure she felt good, by the way.

Oh, no, no, no.

I'm sure Giselle, I'm sure she felt good.

I'm sure any other girl who has been victimized by Tom Brady's not calling them back.

Yep.

Felt vindicated last night, but I i wish he would just send me a dm i that man is hot how much do you think he got paid because money really he doesn't need money he doesn't need money but i think what happens with these sports stars they miss these they it's not even that they miss it It's that we forget that they started this journey when they were five years old.

They have been working up to this point of their lives to be in the NFL, to be the GOAT, to be the greatest that ever did it.

And your whole life, your parents told you, you're the shit.

We're putting out, we're hitching our wagon to this trailer.

Okay.

And your siblings had to take a back seat.

Your parents ignored your younger brother because he didn't do shit.

Like, it just happens.

Yep.

And your whole identity is caught up in that thing.

And all of a sudden, somebody says, all right, you're out.

It's over.

The new guy's in.

It's hard.

You have to then redefine yourself.

I was.

Dwayne Wade, Dwayne Wade is one of my favorite athletes of all time.

Oh, interesting.

And listening to him talk about his retirement and listening to his wife, Gabrielle Union, talk about like her having to tell him, like, you got to find a purpose.

Yeah.

Like you have to remember and put yourselves in those guys' positions.

Yeah.

And I think also like no matter who you are, like attention is exciting.

It's exciting.

Oh, 100%.

I think there are people who retire from sports and like the quiet life.

But for the most part, we're all human.

And to go, you know, every week getting the most attention, everyone's talking about you that

to quiet

it's hard and i think that's actually why he ended up coming out of retirement the first time he lost so much because of it um but at least he won the super bowl like if he didn't

by the way by the way yeah

i get it and i get it yeah if my man promised me that he was gonna retire and be here with the kids I don't know what I would do when he went back on that word.

Renaging on your word, no matter what it is, like it's not an attractive quality.

It's not an attractive quality.

Although I married Tom Brady.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

So

he may marry Giselle.

They're equal.

I think relationships have dynamics, and I agree with you.

Yeah, but if she said, I'll never put on that diamond bra again, and then all of a sudden Victoria Seeker was like, 50 million for one walk, I'm not going to be mad if she went down that runway one more time.

Yeah, yeah, no, but the thing about being an athlete is it's so much time away from your family.

I know, but I feel the same way with reality stars.

Explain.

Like when people date reality stars and don't know that a camera comes with that life and people stopping you and the attention and the scrutiny.

I feel like it's almost on that level.

Yeah.

Where it's like you just, you know what you're signing up for.

You kind of know what you're signing up for.

You just have to keep that line of communication open.

And I don't know if she's dating the jiu-jitsu coach, but he's fine.

No, he can get it.

He can get it.

And I hope she is.

And I hope she's taking eight classes a day and I hope she's pretzeling and doing all the damn things.

A thousand percent.

I champion that relationship.

Who do you think he's going to end up with?

I wasn't into the Irene-Shake relationship.

I didn't think it was right.

You know why?

Why?

She's not basic enough.

I agree.

And by basic, I feel like.

You feel like he's going to be with some basic, and you're like, no, why her?

Yeah, no, no.

I just expect him to be with someone.

And I guess it does make sense because Giselle, I think of Giselle as America's sweetheart, you know, but she's Brazilian.

Like, she's not like, you know, when you think of like the quarterback and the cheerleader, you know, who is the cheerleader?

Honestly, Taylor Swift, but

I see, I literally shipped.

shipped by the way who do you see him with

just someone basic

me I see him being like with a no shut up you're gonna stay with Ben forever forever I just see him being with

some rando girl who you're like I cannot believe it was you yeah all along a wolf in sheep's clothing wolf and bad extensions yeah just like purse is just not right ever but like nice yeah Irina Shake was almost like too chic for him.

Too cosmopolitan, too worldly.

But she fucked up.

You never want to be the first person in there.

Well, no, because you're always only going to be a rebound.

You got to not be the first person in there.

And Jackie and I have a running joke on the show.

based off of like when Irina Shake was dating Bradley Cooper and then when they broke up and all the stories that were coming out.

She kind of gives off like desperate energy.

Now, I've never met her and I don't know that to be true or not.

But even with the

Tom Brady stuff, it was just like, it didn't feel right yeah you know she didn't give me desperate energy i actually think she's probably cool probably almost too cool

um

and i i think that's the problem i think she's too cool like i think he likes you know i like she's also fashiony yeah i like a florida man yeah who like thinks he's showing you like new shit but really like you've been to the lane three times yeah yeah like you know what i mean but you have to pretend like you're not going to be salted very salt of the earth like i think he likes i think he wants to show somebody something.

Like, he wants to, like, be like, look at my, I don't know.

You can't show Irena Shake shit.

No.

She did it Bradley Cooper for a million years, and she's literally like one of the biggest models in the world.

She's seen everything.

Twice.

She's too cool.

Yeah.

But he'll go back.

I like that.

He'll go back.

What else you have on that?

Okay, ready?

Yeah.

I was shocked to hear it.

I didn't see this today.

Did you see that Bethany Franklin and her fiancé had broken up?

No.

After six years together, Paul.

Damn, they did.

She's going through it.

I mean, her mom passed away, and I think she had a very toxic relationship with her mom.

She posted a really long caption that was very sweet, like how, you know, she

had this very strange relationship with her mom.

But when someone like that passes away, like, how do you grieve?

I think a lot of people related to that.

And now her and Paul are done so.

I don't think it's going to be permanent.

You don't?

No, I think when you're going through that much, keep in mind, she's going through a divorce.

She just finalized that after 10 years.

She has a 16-year-old daughter.

I can't believe Britney.

She's still trying to.

Yeah, like, I just think Bethany Frankl, I think anybody in a relationship who's going through that much,

I bet you, I could see myself taking a break from my fiancé and saying, let me get through this and we'll come back around.

Damn.

She's also very low-key about this relationship.

Like, this was her first relationship after Dennis and after Dennis passed away.

She protected it.

And she, I think she was like, saw what happened with Dennis, especially putting him on the show and was like, I don't think I ever want to go through that.

So I feel like we know nothing about him.

I know he's just like a successful businessman.

And that's the thing.

When your man's in the pandemic, it's got his own cash and you don't need that.

Yup.

Like, Like, you don't need that storyline anymore.

But she also doesn't have anywhere to put it.

Right.

I mean, she's big on the talk.

She's always making TikToks, but she's very focused on beauty.

Yeah, and focus on her daughter.

I get it.

Like, she's, she'll be fine.

She'll be fine.

But I was shocked to hear this.

They'll get back together.

They also got engaged relatively quickly and they never got married.

They've just been engaged like forever.

Would you get married if you had?

If I was Bethany?

If I was Bethany Frankel?

Meaning, why, financially?

Or because, you know, my history?

Because of your history.

Yeah, I guess.

Like, that will scar you.

That will turn you off to the institution of marriage.

He was so fucking crazy that Jason Hoppy.

He is evil.

You know what?

I think it's

damned on both of them.

Yeah.

I think she wanted to get married.

I think she wanted to have a baby.

I think it was the next best thing in her life.

Like, well, whoever's next, people do it all the time.

And they get stuck in relationships with people that they don't really like because they thought the clock was ticking.

But I just saw Ashanti get pregnant at 43 on accident.

So, Ashanti.

I know.

I'm obsessed.

Oh my God.

No, no, no.

Everyone is talking about like, cause it's literally, they are like an early 2000s couple coming back to life.

100%.

I'm obsessed.

I'm obsessed with this.

So, you know, I think a lot of times you have to really look at the partner you're picking for sure and say, how, how nice of a divorce can I have with this person?

Yeah, like when you see someone at their worst.

Well, that's what they say about divorce.

I loved that

Adam Driver Scarlett Johansson movie because like the person you marry and the person you divorce are two separate fucking people.

Like they, that's why they really say it's like a death because this person who like saw you naked, who saw inside and out, like becomes your enemy.

It's like, I can't, I literally can't imagine going through it.

It's, it sounds horrible.

It's horrific.

Horrific.

And I think the more you leave to chance, the worse it is.

So when I hear people talking about prenups.

What's your take on that?

Do it.

Yeah.

Do it.

But you're very LA, by the way.

I think that's a big LA way of seeing things.

And I don't disagree.

I just think you do it.

I don't know.

I wasn't a prenup guy.

And if my man's got $2 billion, I probably won't be a prenup guy.

Oh, yeah.

It's circumstantial.

If I'm Lauren Sanchez, I probably won't be a pre-nump girl.

What do you think about Lauren Sanchez?

We love her.

I love Lauren Sanchez.

Right?

Like, she kind of is one of the girls.

I love Lauren Sanchez.

I'm so glad.

I also.

Have you met her?

I have met her once in passing.

Was she nice?

She was very nice.

Lovely.

Very pretty.

Yeah.

I always tell people, because everyone's like, oh, she didn't have a job.

I'm like, dating a billionaire

is a full-time job.

And if anyone is hiring, I am definitely open to that job.

Internship over here.

Okay.

You don't have to pay it.

Summer internship.

I just need a condo somewhere cute.

And by the way, I think like that's a serious statement.

Like, it's obviously a joke, but those type of men, like, especially at that level, like a Jeff Bezos, require so much work.

Yes.

They're really not well.

They're not well.

And also, keep in mind, Jeff Bezos comes from the tech world.

Lauren Bezos, I'm calling her Bezos already.

I love it.

Comes from entertainment.

So she's walking him through this whole thing.

And now

his new stardom.

His new stardom.

I love that.

That's so true.

And she's a gatekeeper.

I bet she sits in on his like PR meetings and shit because she's definitely well versed in the Hollywood landscape.

I think she's running the whole PR.

That Vogue situation.

I think she's running the whole PR.

And I like how she's putting herself at the center of it.

And she's putting herself at the center.

But by the way, guess what?

I would do the same thing too.

You would do it too for a check.

You would do it too.

I would do it for a two-piece, a two-piece dark at Popeyes, okay?

I would do it for a Wendy's value meal.

No, literally.

Seriously.

On a boat.

On a boat.

On a boat.

That boat.

But, you know, I think people are hating her because, again, when you come up too fast, people get jealous.

No, and she's really like living the dream.

I'm so mad.

No, and to be honest, I feel like there are a lot of billionaires out there.

None of them are particularly gorgeous.

You know, there's not like the hot billionaire.

Jeff Bezos isn't that bad looking, you know?

No, he works out.

He works out.

He's a little, you know, Mr.

Clean Baldy.

Like, it's a look.

It's a vibe.

She got him in shape.

She, by the way, she created the billionaire she wished to see in the world.

She got him in shape, but you know who's really winning?

Let me think, let me think.

Wait, I'm going to send it to you telepathically.

Grind.

No, no, another billionaire wife winning, had her own shit, but now has more, is killing the game now.

Help me.

She's been with her man for like 16 years.

Steve Harvey's wife.

No, bitch.

Selma Hayek.

Oh, Selma fucking Hayek.

And on that note, Eva Longoria as well.

Selma Hayek's husband is LVMH, correct?

Yes.

And Eva Longoria's husband is L'Oreal.

Telemundo.

Like he's a very good thing.

Telemundo.

Yeah, it was Telemundo.

It's everything.

It's a big conglomerate.

It's everything.

By the way, you're story.

Selma Hayek's man is really underrated.

Selma Hayek's man is really underrated.

And Selma Hayek herself is underrated.

Agreed.

She is a phenomenal actress.

She is a great personality.

She's a huge humanitarian.

Hysterical.

And she had to get pushed down the aisle to marry that man.

That's a boss ass movie.

Why'd she have to get pushed?

Because she said she didn't believe in the institution of marriage.

Even to a billionaire?

Even to a billionaire who asked her more than one time to marry her.

That's so legendary.

Family had to be like, bitch, walk down this generational wealth.

Get it together.

And she didn't want to do it that's impressive that's i'm super impressed by salma hayek and i love that you know you know what i never think about salma hayek and now i will i think about her all the time i think about eva longoria because i feel like she got the best of both worlds she was married to that hot tony parker oh tony parker didn't deserve her agreed did he cheat on her yes but he was hot so i enjoyed seeing and that was her gabby solisiers But you see, I go back with Eva Longoria to Young and the Wrestlers.

Oh, I remember those days.

Yeah, no, I was introduced to her with Desperate Housewives.

Oh, you see, I go back when she was like the crazy woman on, who was stalking Paul and cricket

on YNR.

So I've been down with Eva Longoria for a very long time, but I think what Eva Longoria is doing is taking Hollywood.

And what she's doing is she's saying,

we don't have one lane.

These are the lanes we can have.

She is an Oscar-nominated producer.

Yeah.

No, she's being really smart.

She's being really smart in stealth.

So I feel like when she was married to Tony Parker and she was like kind of just this like really in-demand actress, it was fun.

Yeah, she was

Brian Atwood,

on court side, nothing so serious, just like fun, rich, good vibes.

But you know, it's tough.

This is a tough industry for a woman.

You got to evolve.

And I think once her relationship ended and then she met this new guy who's like a real business head, her entire career twisted around.

She has outlasted every one of these bitches, like especially from a business perspective, Casa Del Sol Tequila, her production company, the Flamingo.

She's the director now.

A thousand percent.

I love this second wind, like the second phase of her life.

But you end up, it would happen to you too.

Yeah.

If you married someone whose focus was solely on business, the things you absorb from those people are insane.

It's so true.

It's so valuable.

It's like when girls, like when people are like, oh, she becomes her boyfriend.

Like, oh my gosh, she just likes what her husband likes.

I'm like, no, she's absorbing everything from him.

And why is that bad?

And why is that bad?

Like, it's called being in a good, healthy relationship.

Right?

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Next story, we're totally going to like turn the page to like somebody who has been in the news a lot recently and not necessarily in a good way.

Jojo Siwa is reacting to them impersonating her on SNL.

So I don't know if you saw, I believe it was Chloe Feynman, yeah, who did a little JoJo Siwa sketch on Weekend Update.

She did the makeup and the dance and just sort of remarked on this very, you know, different

phase of JoJo Siwa that we've been seeing.

Now, I imagine being parodied on SNL, no matter what, is a huge honor.

Yeah.

But um, and JoJo loved it, by the way.

She said, iconic.

I literally don't know what to say.

This is fucking crazy.

Three and a half minute skit on SNL.

Like, she loved it.

But, like, you know, they were like poking fun at her.

They did it to Madonna.

Yeah.

They did it.

They've done it to Miley.

They've done it to Whitney Houston.

They've done it to Mariah Carey multiple times.

I don't care.

They did it to me.

Did they?

It was like a daily pop Keenan Thompson.

Yes.

It was like a gay

guy.

Yes.

It was like, I know that they did it.

Like, it was a crazy thing.

It was meant to be you.

It was meant to be me.

What is it called?

They didn't, they didn't say it.

I'm going to send you the link.

You better.

But people are like, oh my God, I think he was kind of poking fun at you.

And it was the greatest day of my life.

And they didn't even say it was me or my name.

But you are so well versed in it.

Jojo C was really young.

To be able to appreciate it, even though it wasn't like the most complimentary.

Honestly, I have a lot of respect for that.

1000%.

Like, that's major.

It takes a lot not to cry.

Yeah, but she came from Abby Lee Miller.

That's so true.

Once you've been through the ABDC, once you've been through the ABDC, you can kind of be go through anything by the way once you've come out oh that's true also

once you've come out of the closet

not even publicly i let's just say you came out to your family and friends i want to say coming out to your family and friends i wouldn't know i've never come out sounds harder than like doing it on instagram the hardest thing you have ever done so a lot of times you see a lot of gay people in very high stress industries yeah in entertainment we're murdering the game.

We're on every board.

No, it's so true.

We're ripping and running around.

Like, we are good.

We will survive literally the second coming of the apocalypse.

It's a baptism by fire.

Like, after that, you're untouchable.

After that, you're untouchable.

If you don't mind me asking, what was your experience coming out like?

Oh, are you ready for this?

I'm, hold on, let me readjust.

Go.

Oh, shit.

I'm about to throw you for a loop.

I've never been more ready.

Have I heard this story?

No, probably not.

So

I moved from Louisiana.

I started working for Kyle.

Season one, I went

undetected.

Season two,

Taylor Armstrong had a girls and gays and gals party.

Wait, when you started working for Kyle, you were still technically in the closet?

I was still technically in the closet.

I had not formally said anything.

I don't think I knew that.

That's really crazy.

Yeah, I was 21.

I was like a kid.

Wow.

And I moved to LA and I thought, I'm just going to have my private life here.

I won't have to like tell anybody at home.

It'll be like this, you know, I'll just live my life out here.

Taylor had a gals and gay party, a 1920s themed scenario.

We're talking with the OGs.

She's like Gatsby vibes.

Gatsby vibes.

Oh my God.

And Kyle was like, yo, would you come with me to this?

But I know you're not out, but I want to give you the choice.

Kyle knew.

Kyle knew.

Oh, wow.

That's so major.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

We talked about it day one.

And she was like, think about it and let me know what you, what you think.

And if you need me to help you talk to your family, you know, go to Louisiana, like, I'll do it.

But if you don't want to do it, I totally understand.

I respect it.

Yeah.

And it was a few days and we talked about it a lot and I went.

Oh, my God.

And

it's really crazy.

It was televised, yeah?

It was televised, but don't forget, you go to something on a housewife show and then you have six months until it airs oh six months of dread so I had to sit for six months dread yeah until it aired and then I you know kind of sort of used the show as my vehicle of coming out like I had to warn them about it and it was so easy oh good because I had went and it was it was fun and it was nice and you know I had lived in LA for at this point almost eight months so I felt a little bit more comfortable do you think if if you hadn't been pushed to do that how much longer it would have taken you I probably would have just lived my life here really said anything.

Because it wasn't that I wasn't out.

It was a known secret, but we swept it under the rug.

Yeah.

And I was out of sight, out of mind.

Got it.

This time I had to like say it.

Because it was literally on TV.

It was on TV.

And if it didn't come out, then it would have came out on Daily Pop.

Yeah.

Because I'm always looking for a man on Daily Pop.

Do you feel stopped?

I was always looking for a man on Daily Pop.

We missed Daily Pop, I just want to say.

That was so, oh, so good.

It lasted as long as it was supposed to last.

It was, and how many seasons was it on?

Five years.

That's long.

That's a win, but we need it.

365.

I wish you would come back with three new people.

Oh, not you, because you, Morgan, and Carissa were like, were the jam.

Like, that was the perfect formula.

That was the perfect formula.

Lonnie, too, when Lonnie Love came at the end.

She's hysterical.

She's hysterical.

But the three of you, like, Carissa was, you know, a little bit serious and was the one, you know, moving the show along A to B commercial break.

You and Morgan just bursting with personality.

And two more different people don't exist like your backgrounds everything and it was just it was great magic it was great that show was a fluke do you feel um

because you're so close with kyle richards like whenever something's going and a lot has been happening with her in the recent year but you've been best friends with her for like 10 years whenever anything happens you feel like a spokesperson Like, do you, are you the first person people call being like, oh, is Kyle dating Morgan away?

No, no one asked me anything because yeah, I think everybody respects that I'm in like a, it's like a family thing.

Yeah.

You know what I Like she is like my sister.

I don't talk shit about my sister.

I don't talk shit about that sister.

I don't talk shit.

My sister could do whatever she wanted.

I'm still never going to talk about her.

I love that, by the way.

I think that's extremely admirable.

And people have been really respectful.

Have they?

Yeah, that whole scenario.

Yeah.

It's been a crazy year.

How is she doing?

She's great.

She's great.

Lady Richards is doing really good.

In all your time at E, have you been to the Met Gala?

I've never been to the Met Gala.

Why?

They have never had me.

So

for E, Juliana had been.

Yeah.

Who's going this year?

Zuri Hall.

Oh, she's great.

And Aaron Lynn.

And she's great too.

And Kelty has been, correct?

Kelty's been for E.T.

for E.T., right?

Not for E.

Not for E.

So the Met Gala has officially begun.

The red carpet just started.

I love being in LA time.

It's so, like...

So much better.

It's so much better.

Oh, my God.

And with the ward shows and stuff, it's not midnight when it ends.

It's literally like nine o'clock.

What are your thoughts on the theme?

I actually understand the theme this year.

Please explain it to us.

I understand the theme this year.

I don't.

It's awakening.

Yep.

So I mean, sleeping beauty.

Sleeping beauty, awakening all of these moments.

It's going

to

look at all of these archival pieces, all these old, you know, big fashion moments and reawakening them.

So you're going to see a lot of pieces that were archives that were never worn again.

Will we recognize them as like iconic things?

Yeah, you will.

You will.

So like Kim's outfit from last year, Marilyn, would have been, would have been perfect this year if she, but it was Americana.

It was perfect for them.

Yeah, by the way, that's true.

Yeah.

I'm going to show you a few people have arrived, and I want you to give me your takes really quickly.

Anna win tour.

Ready?

First on the carpet, always.

Always.

She's wearing a jacket.

Stunning.

You say stunning.

You know what?

As a host of the party, I understand why she does what she does.

Yeah.

It's always simple.

Yep.

It's always clean and it's always comfortable.

And I think she is the, I don't think she needs to go all out because she already went all out we have lala anthony who does a lot of um red carpet corresponding for vogue and i by the way i i think they tapped them tapping her and emma chamberlain i love both of them they're so perfect everyone knows lala so everyone's so comfortable around her she's just such like a girl she's a girl everybody will stop for her yes they all stop for her and by the way lala was the first to do it Lala was on MTV.

That's actually so true.

Lala was on MTV years and years ago.

So not only are you getting the professionalism, you're getting the celebrity too.

That's very true.

Okay, what do you think about Ashley Graham wearing a fringe bang?

You know what?

That body can do no wrong.

No, I agree.

I don't care what she puts on it, as long as it's hugging it and she has that confidence.

I will fuck with that all day.

I love the Met Gala.

I think it's like the most fun.

And maybe it's because we get so little, you know, we're not inside.

There's a little bit of red carpet, not even that much, but then everything's very, you know, unplugged.

You know, I love it.

Why?

Because it's the one thing

that everyone wants to go to and can't.

That's true.

I love that they chop

60,000 people off that list.

Yeah.

Everyone submits their clients for this.

And I know some big names that didn't get chopped.

I would never ever say.

I would never say.

I have a friend who works at Vogue.

Oh, there's a friend who works at Vogue.

We talk about it sometimes.

Obsessed, obsessed.

Okay, it's nice to have friends in high places.

Yeah, yeah.

And how do you think, as like a more a straight man, how to manage the theme?

Sometimes they give nothing.

Sometimes I don't want anything.

Okay.

Sometimes I don't want anything.

Bradley Cooper will show up classic as can be because he is Bradley Cooper.

Yep.

For men who can't handle a theme or a little bit of accoutrement, follow Bradley Cooper.

You will never get it wrong.

And the theme, I mean, this sponsor this year being TikTok was kind of like a polarizing thing people were talking about because TikTok has become kind of controversial.

And what are your thoughts when it comes to like digital talent influencers getting invited to these things?

Like, when YouTube was the sponsor a couple of years ago, I think they had like three or four Jackie Ina, Nick Tutorials, James Charles, yeah, and it was very controversial.

And I feel like this year, there will be because of TikTok.

And I just saw one of the first to arrive is this guy.

His name is Rhys Feldman.

Do you know him?

He's a TikToker.

He does a lot of content at red carpets.

He does a lot of like movie interviews.

He does a lot of movie things.

So I imagine now that seeing him, and I think he's wearing

this happens all the time.

The convergence of.

No, no, no.

If you watch, let's say NBC gets the Golden Globes.

NBC Talent will host it.

NBC Talent will be presenters.

NBC will have a moment there.

Somebody from Bravo will come in as well.

Totally.

ABC, the same thing.

They'll have their late night.

Disney, they'll have their late night host people do it.

You know, it just is how the world works.

And now these digital platforms have all this money.

Yep.

And can they're like the only companies with money?

100%.

And they can afford to send their people there.

Yeah.

So you know what?

If you're with a company and they're on the host committee, of course, go be proud.

But Anna is so specific.

And like you said, A-list star is getting cut.

So

she also needs that money.

A businesswoman.

The fact that there probably tonight will be three or four influencers is so crazy.

And I'm not talking about influencers.

Like some of them transcend.

Like I feel like now Charlie and Dixie have have been and to me i don't think of them as tick tockers i think of them as celebrities so that makes sense but i'm so curious about the influencers of it all because i think a lot of people like look down on it yeah but i think if you are you know in their shoes if you're anna went to your

you know your YouTube or TikTok comes in and says we get four tables and we get complete discretion over four tables, you can't be mad if they invite Jenna Jameson.

No, and at the end of the day, it's like change or die.

Like if you're not going to evolve, like, you know, so many fashion trends and so much fashion comes from social media.

And that was also like kind of a couple of years ago with Kim.

You know, they didn't want her there, but you can't deny her influence on.

style and on fashion and on trends.

And the fact that it went from her being, you know, Kanye is plus one, where everybody made fun of her outfit and no one wanted her there and Anna Wintor almost said no, to like, it's basically the Kardashian Sweet 16 every year.

It's all the girls go and it's like their party.

That's why I feel like Taylor Swift, you know, doesn't go.

No.

And by the way, you gotta, if you're Anna Wintour, yes, you're a businesswoman.

You gotta be in.

Yeah, you gotta listen to what the people want because, you know, when Kim walks on the carpet when zendaya walks on the carpet when doja walks on the carpet when katy perry walks on the carpet when those big celebrities walk on the carpet everyone talks about it yeah it's always a moment yep and you have to look for those moments a thousand percent and when you think back in like all the iconic most amazing things that first of all what what's like your favorite theme in recent history i loved camp

I did like camp.

I liked when Catholic, when it was

heavenly bodies.

Yes, I agree.

Kim's

dress.

Heavenly bodies.

bodies rihanna as the pope as the pope madonna with her ass out like i love it that was a really good one and for me like i'm not really super into fashion like to me that was a um

same with camp those are themes that i felt like were really understandable for like the common person 1000 i also really love you know that this event is still an event.

I know, because nothing's special anymore.

Vanity Fair is kind of special.

Yes, it is.

I agree.

You know, this is kind of special.

That's it.

That's it.

You know what I mean?

I completely agree.

I love that take, by the way.

They have preserved the specialness, if you will, of the event, and it's still something everyone wants to go to.

What do you think about Emma Chamberlain's look?

I think she looks, she's such a fashion girl.

It's so crazy.

I love it.

She's really killed it.

She's someone who I think does a really good job of being

not a trained entertainment journalist.

She straddles it.

She straddles it.

She does a good job.

She does the homework.

She has personality, but she lets other people talk.

It's not, you know, as easy as people think it is.

I can talk to a celebrity.

One of the hardest jobs ever.

I agree.

It's harder than coal mining.

Listening.

Harder than coal mining.

Listen, listen.

Talking to a celebrity as a fan,

but also as a journalist.

Because keep in mind, you get on a carpet.

Your producer has given you five questions to ask this celebrity.

You have to figure out how to ask five questions in three minutes.

No, that's hard.

You also have to like figure out how to wean in your own thing.

Of course, your personality.

Your personality.

You also have to make a judgment whether you ask a follow-up to something that they say.

You know, there's all of these protocols.

It's a dance.

You know, my

thing on a red carpet or a junket was always when someone sat down, especially if they were kind of new in the game and kind of, you know, a little hot.

I would always say, hey, before we start, is there anything that you wouldn't want to get out there?

Like, is there like a collect from you?

Do you have something?

Yeah, smart.

Because then that makes them like you a lot.

And they're like, oh, actually, I have,

yeah, I have an album coming out in a week.

So you go through the five questions about, oh, how was it working with Michelle Pfeiffer?

And what was it like getting in your costume?

And then the last question is, wow, I saw you sing in this movie.

You know, would you ever think about like putting on an album?

And then you hear them, oh yeah, well, actually,

and they come out and say it.

Then going back to the office and saying, listen, I know we're not going to normally play this, but can we just leave a snippet of like, he's got an album coming out?

Yeah.

And it means the world.

It means the world to them.

It means the world to their publicists.

It means the world to everyone involved, people on the album.

Yeah.

So you just have to find ways to connect with people.

on those carpets.

Let me ask you a question.

I feel like this is a good place to end it because I think a lot of the people who listen to the this show, like I said at the very beginning, you really have the dream job, and there are so many people who would love to be where you are.

What, when it comes to like actually tangible advice, something someone can do?

I hate when I ask people for advice and they're like, believe in yourself.

You know, like, where do I believe in myself?

Yeah, yeah.

What is the most tangible piece of advice you can give to someone who wants to crack into like the entertaining, hosting, entertainment journalist industry?

My best advice would be:

one,

find someone who's doing the job that you want

and figure out how to take it the next step.

So like, what is that person missing?

What is that person not doing?

Do it better.

What is that person not, you know, caught up on?

I love that.

So like for myself, I wanted to be Jason Kennedy and I knew that Jason Kennedy was

more into giving you the news and presenting it.

Yep.

And he didn't want to really open up.

Open up and get into celebrity gossip.

And so I was like, okay, he's doing this the best.

He's the best at this.

I'm going to try to do this at E.

And it worked out for me because that's how I went into it.

And I think if you can find a place and find that hole, that's the best thing to do.

Also, like, go out there and tell people you will do it for free.

Yeah.

Do a few for free.

Get your name out there.

1,000%.

Oh, a reel.

So you like, you, I don't know, because I've never done it.

Is that still how it's done?

You have to have a reel.

Kind of.

But you can find, by the way, there are magazine outlets who are looking, always looking for

on-air talent.

If somebody hit you up and said, yo, I can get carpet access to this.

Can I go for the toast?

You would have been like, great.

How much do we have?

Like, what do we have to do?

Get a camera.

And you would be like, great, let's do it.

Just finding those people

and those outlets that you can get on those carpets or those one-on-one interviews could really break you.

I love, that's very good advice.

Yeah.

You know, it's, it's fun.

It's a, it's definitely, it's definitely a dream come true and it's definitely a blessing.

I don't know how I ended up here, but we're so glad you did.

Thank you.

I love you.

I love you too.

This was so much fun.

I could talk to you for hours.

Thank you for being here.

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