The Mama Revolution with Lauren Elizabeth: Thursday, April 18th, 2024

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Thursday.

Happy Lauren Elizabeth Day.

It's Jackie O'Excelli.

Mama's on the pod.

Hi, girlish Swirly Twirly.

How are you?

I am good.

I am so honored to be here.

I, you know, I'm here representing and I am here as a Midwestern toaster,

specifically representing the Chicago Swirlies, but all adjacent states.

I'm here as a Christian toaster that loves the Jewish toasters.

I am here as a non-neurotypical toaster.

Like I'm really covering all of the bases for you guys.

You also did an incredible job geographically this week, by the way.

Have you noticed?

I'm cross-country.

I've got

LA, Nashville, Wisconsin, Chicago.

Okay, and another LA.

But seriously, we are hitting the, we're nationwide podcasts.

Yeah, I mean, nationwide is on your side.

Jackie Oshre has your back.

Okay.

And I'm in Florida.

Right, right, right, right.

It's giving all 50 states.

It's giving cross-country.

But you did ask me how I'm doing.

And truthfully, like, now that I'm a mama.

We're not well this morning.

As you can tell, Jackie's like really close to borderline murdering me because I'm a hot mess express, but we made it and we're here.

I'm so not close to murdering you.

Even though I remote podcast every day, I know the setup.

Like, it's new for other people.

Take your time.

The only people that you'd have to answer to are the toasters who are like, this is late.

Right.

And I also, did you see, I know you're like, not on TikTok, but did you see my talk last night?

I did see your talk and I loved it so much because that's my, I don't know if that's a TikTok sound yet, but it needs to be.

When Shannon, when Shannon was here, oh, we were saying, I don't like.

Yeah.

Well, so I commented saying, I need this to be like an audio.

And so then Claudia made it an audio and text me and saying, You inspired.

And so, like, me being me, I'm like, the toasters don't understand what I do behind the scenes.

Like, I put my head down and I work.

She works.

Like, I, I literally am the boots on the ground.

Like, I represent like when you're screaming at your phone, like, listening to the podcast in the car, being like, I wish I could tell Claudia and Jackie this.

Like, I'm texting them that information.

You know what I mean?

It's so true.

It's so true.

You're constantly working behind the scenes.

But speaking of your work,

former podcaster Lauren Elizabeth, how does it feel to be back on the mic?

I mean, with my former boss.

She's your former boss.

And the thing is, like, she's not disgruntled.

It's all good.

Like, we're wishing her well on her next endeavor.

I mean, my favorite thing, though, too, was that I was like...

nervous and I like texted Claudia.

Cause like, here's the thing, like I text Claudia for most things because like at the end of the day, like she has a dog.

You have two children.

Like we're texting Claude.

Yeah, no, it's a safe bet that you're glad glad to be exactly like i'm like i'm not bothering you unless i actually need you for mama tings yeah and that's never a bother i hope you know that i love of course like talking about mama tings and well i'll tell everyone all the advice you gave me in a second but basically like I was so nervous and she was just like, okay, sounds good.

And I was like, that was the easiest like job.

Like, imagine your boss just being like, oh, you want to quit?

Like,

sounds fucking awesome.

I was like, yeah.

Classic.

So

it was easy.

But honestly, even my boyfriend last night was like, Do you remember when you used to stress about your podcast every single week?

And I was like, shut the fuck up.

Like, it was just such a stressor for me, honestly.

I couldn't do it.

You know what?

I believe you.

As my friend Mary Orton said on the podcast yesterday, like people don't realize what goes into podcasting, even a weekly podcast, like it's so much more work than you expect.

And so, especially in this new era of your life, like

we've got to be,

we've, we've gotta be

trimming, you know?

You can't do it all.

Yes, you have to trim the fat and you have to delegate, which is something I don't do.

So I try to do everything myself.

What's so crazy is that your podcast was really popular, too.

Like, I think a lot of people, you know, quit a flop podcast, and it's like not a hard decision.

Like, well, so, like, the thing that goes is that like monetized my podcast.

No one's listening.

Maybe we should call it a day.

But that was not the case with you, honestly.

It wasn't the case.

A mad respect from walking away from it because it was very popular, but it wasn't like it just couldn't.

It was too much.

Is my daughter going to be able to go to college now?

Like, I don't know.

Cause I stopped doing podcast ads.

Does she even want to go to college now?

We don't know that.

Like, will college even be a thing in 18 years?

Like, I don't know.

Why do we have burned them all to the ground?

Yes, exactly.

And, like, I

made a TikTok as I mean, if you guys want to follow me on TikTok, like, Jesus Christ, like, stop pushing it, Lauren.

but I made a TikTok like saying how I quit and the TikTok went fucking viral I was like of course like everyone like everyone was so excited that I quit my podcast I was like um okay rude

like what the fuck totally but I do feel like you spoke to that culture of um

what is it like

leaving your job.

There's a word for it.

To leaving your job culture.

Yeah.

Like

walking away from things that don't serve you.

No, no, no, no.

Like there's literally a quit your job movement.

There is?

Yeah.

I know.

Oh, like, like, like leaving the corporate world movement.

I don't know what the movement is.

I'm going to stop trying.

Someone's like screaming in the car like I usually would be.

Yeah, there's a word for it.

And I can't, it's escaping me.

But I feel like you were speaking to those people.

It's like, this does not, but the thing, what they don't know is like, you have a million other jobs.

Like, you just like tabled one piece of it.

Exactly.

And it's like, at the end of the day, I'm one person.

And as much as I love to make everything about myself and just like talk nonstop, like I, there's only so much that I can talk about on different platforms.

Like, I want to say stupid shit to the masses, but I don't need to do it in every single way possible, you know?

Yeah, I think it was called the great resignation.

Oh, see, I would have never come to that.

So you resigned from your podcast.

I 100% resigned.

And by the way, you guys made it sound so sketchy on the podcast.

Oh, I love that.

I'm fucking doing Claudia after.

What are we saying?

Like, you guys said something about like TNN and then you're like listening to the podcast.

And then you're like, I'm like, move with Thorn Elizabeth.

And then you're like, oh, wait, she quit.

And everyone was like, oh, my God, like, what happened?

And I was like, they made it sound like there's drama.

And it was literally me texting Claudia, like, I don't want to podcast anymore.

Oh, my gosh.

Sorry for any drama that caused for you, but I really do love that for us.

And I love, you know, getting people talking and all worked up, especially when like we know behind the scenes, like there's absolutely nothing here.

Like, why not make a meal of it?

Make it a moment, get people all like, and then everyone's like, ooh, what's the drama?

What's the beef?

Like, at the end of the day, this is a business and like, we do thrive on clickbait.

At the end of the day, this is a business.

And I personally am honored to be a small part of it, which also leads me to my next question.

I made a little note on my phone of things that I wanted to ask you because I have mom brain now, which I'm sure you can relate to.

Yeah.

But like, I was already a dumbass before I was a mom.

So now I'm like, actually, like

so,

so fucking stupid.

It's actually crazy.

But I was like, if I forget to say all these things to Jackie, I'm going to hate myself.

So the first thing I would like to bring up and address for the meal of it all is, did you see my

declined invite message on Paperless Post for your Toast Aversary Party?

I think I did because you should.

Okay, so like I thought it was the most well-written thing and absolutely gorgeous.

And I got no follow-up text from either of you.

Would you like to comment?

Okay, wait, what did it say then?

Oh my god, like I just didn't like in-depth read every response.

I was like looking at who was going and it's some people who said yes or no, they had like a nice note and I just kept it moving.

Well, here's the thing, and I appreciate you keeping it moving because you have things to do, places to be.

But like, it was, I don't know, dare I say five whole sentences.

What, what did you say?

Well, first of all, I told you I'm a dumbass.

Like,

it said

something,

like, this is how my brain works now.

Like, I can't, I was going to try to screenshot it, but I thought it was too late.

It said something about like being a small part of the toast community.

Like, I quoted the great Madison beer, like, as like, I should have been in that video.

Like, I should have been at the toast party.

Like, I wanted to be a part of her story.

Like, it was so toast-coated and was so gorgeous.

Not a single word from the Austre sisters.

And then, two days later, when I finally have Claudia on FaceTime, I was calling her to tell her some really important information that will lead me to my next question.

And she hung up on me because my story wasn't good enough for her.

And she was running late.

So she hung up.

She said, this is not as entertaining as I thought.

And she hung up.

So, like, there's some beef going on between us all.

That's ice cold.

Okay, I'm sorry that you put effort into the note and that it wasn't received

in the way that I'm sorry for that.

I mean, like, listen, there's one thing in life I love is making everything about me and complaining.

No, like, this is so, this is a real roundabout way.

And I feel like if I saw it, I probably read and like smiled to myself, but I didn't know it required a response.

But I will say, I kind of know the feeling that you're talking about.

I feel like whenever I write like a thank you card or something, like I'll spend a lot of time just like writing a note to someone that doesn't require a response back.

But I just feel like the way that I did it kind of did.

It's like, you know, we have to learn lessons the hard way sometimes.

It's like you didn't want to make a, you didn't want to comment on my handwriting, you know, right?

Like it builds character.

Personal touches, no, nothing.

No personal touches.

At the end of the day, like, I do it for you.

I don't do it to get something in return, you know?

And we have to remind ourselves that.

I 100% did it to like, I'm like, hello, pay attention to me.

Like, yeah.

No, but like, honestly, trying to get our attention via paperless posts, like, it's just not the right avenue.

That's where we are in our friendship of like me being so desperate like writing novels on paperless posts.

And it's like, we're just looking at the final count.

Yeah, they're like, we don't give a flying fuck.

Okay, my last question for you.

As a mama, sorry, my wrist hurts.

If you're watching on YouTube, I don't know what I'm doing.

How's your pelvic floor?

Fine.

No, no, like nothing.

No notes?

No.

What does it even mean?

See, this is what I feel as though, did you ever see, like this would have made the fast five if it when I was on the podcast.

Did you see that Brittany Mahomes fractured her spine because she didn't take care of her pelvic floor?

No,

yeah, like the pelvic floor is

no women are educated enough.

I sound like a feminist or whatever, but that's not,

I love women's health information.

Please share.

I've been ignoring my pelvic floor.

I didn't know that she was hurting.

Well, that's the thing.

It's like she needs some love and attention.

And since I had such a bad tear after birth, I was recommended to to go to pelvic floor physical therapy, whereas like none of my friends were.

And so I've learned like all this information about my pelvic floor.

And like, I know all about like my deep core and like how it affects my back and my hips.

And it's absolutely crazy.

But also like it affects like the annoying stuff of the reason I FaceTimed Claudia was to tell her that I was, and you know, this is probably more of a story for you.

I.

was telling her I went to go get my gorgeous, gorgeous daughter at four o'clock in the morning.

And I thought, oh, like, what if I just like tooted really quick so that it like doesn't like go back to my bedroom and then I like shit my pants.

And that is really tough when you're a mama holding your own baby and like, you don't know what to do.

So

that is why we take care of our pelvic floor.

And that we do all that.

That stem from your pelvic floor?

100%.

So how do I know if my pelvic floor is in need or is it automatically in need because I've given birth?

Well, so it's technically automatically in need because you've given birth.

I think everyone should take care of their pelvic floor.

There's people like Melissa Wood Health and like Megan Rube Sculpt Society, like that now have all these like post-natal kind of like pelvic floor exercises that you can always be working.

But did you ever hear like when you were pregnant to do like perineal massage?

Like a massage for a pregnant lady.

Like, no, no, no.

Like when you massage like inside the vagina.

No.

Yes.

So there's, I remember hearing that when I was pregnant and I was like, ew, I don't want to do that.

And like, if you actually do it, like you don't tear as bad and like you're taking care of it.

And like I'm still like, I'm supposed to be doing it right now.

And I still can't get myself to do it because like I said, I'm a Christian toaster like the Catholic Guild is insane

Ask you something that might be a dumb fucking question like

do you give yourself a perineal massage or you like get a perineedle masseuse

Well, so you don't get it from like you don't outsource it

third party.

It's like it's it's not a third party unless it's your husband.

Okay, that's I was gonna say you are your husband They can do it like and a lot of people have their husbands do it for them, but like everyone thinks it's like this like sexual pleasure thing And it's like not.

Like I go to physical therapy and I get a finger inside of my body.

Whoa.

Right?

Because they're going to see the floor.

The pelvic floor?

Where is your pelvic floor?

See, like, isn't it crazy that you don't know these things?

Like, not in a sense of an attack on you in a sense of like women's health.

Like, I know.

No one teaches us jack.

No, no one teaches us jack.

And I feel like you don't know something until it becomes your problem.

That's how I felt about my my cervix.

Like when they told me I had a short cervix at the doctor, I was like, sweet.

Like I'm short, makes tracks.

Like I didn't know that the cervix was holding together the whole thing and that it shrinks.

I didn't know until it happened to you.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah, there's so much that we don't know and you learn on the job, but I guess if something isn't thrown your way yet, you don't know about it.

But I know like what my pelvis is.

And does this have anything to do with Kegels?

So yes, but when I talk to to my girlfriends about it because they all know that I go to physical therapy so they're all kind of like profiting off my um knowledge yeah yeah yeah yes exactly they're like okay so like

we're like let's like let's do it like show me the exercises and

the thing that you think is like you know me I didn't know you were ringing a doctor on the podcast but the thing you think Dr.

Elizabeth Dr.

Elizabeth is you think it's like Kegel's but you know how a Kegel

This is if you're watching on YouTube, this is the gargest visual my friends got that they said is scarred in their brain How it's like you go like this and it's like

like you're tightening.

Yeah.

Okay.

So when you do a kegel, like you're like, you're like tight,

but and you think you're like exercising, right?

But after you give birth, you're already in that position.

Like your pelvic floor is already like tight.

Like, so if you're doing kegels after you give birth, it's almost like you're, this, this muscle is so, so, so tense and you're just tensing it more.

Like it's not ready yet.

Okay.

So it's like you're holding, like, you're holding this like tightness.

And then it's already like that all the time.

Like after you give birth, like your pelvic floor is tight, tight, tight, tense, tense, tense.

And if you do a kegel, you're just tensing an already tense thing that needs to actually be relaxed and like be taken care of.

And then once you're like back to square one, which I mean, you'll never be back to square one.

Like our bodies are vessels,

then you can build up some strength again.

And I know this because I have someone stick their hand inside of me and touch the get her out, like, you know, see the whole floor plan,

get a good idea of what's going on.

And yeah, like architect, architectural digest could never.

No, they could never.

Yeah, like I, I can just see myself like doing my 73 questions like about your pelvic floor walking around my pelvic floor.

Yeah.

Anyway, I know that's a lot for the non-mama toasters.

And my friends are going to be like, Lauren, did you really have to do that?

But I just, I did, I was curious about if anyone ever checks on your pelvic floor.

No, no one has.

I have not.

I didn't know it was really an area of concern.

So you have been like recovering from your birth experience.

Are you like, where are you in your journey?

So I'm seven months postpartum and

I still go to physical therapy.

I did an entire like birth story, whatever, on YouTube.

So I'll do an abridged version, but basically like her

shoulder.

So like I only pushed for like two hours.

Like birth was so easy.

Remember I texted you and I was like, you were like, oh my God, that was amazing.

Peaceful.

Loved it.

And you were like, wait, you were like, I want to do it every day.

I could, this was the best time of my life.

You were like, so confused.

You're like, what the fuck?

And I was like, but caveat, like, postpartum was fucking miserable for like a few weeks.

And I had to go to the doctor once.

You know how you don't usually go for like six weeks to the doctor?

I went every single week to this like separate clinic because my tear was so bad.

And like I had like cauterization done.

I had like silver nitrate put down there.

Like things were constantly happening downstairs because it was like so bad.

And so I was like not okay till probably like month four, I would say.

Wow.

And how are you now?

You're still going to physical therapy.

So it's not healed.

It's healed in a sense of like physically, but like the muscles and stuff.

Like, you know how like when you have to like, you know, when you sneeze, how you like, if you have to pee, you like your bladder.

Yeah.

So like the other, like yesterday, like I had to sneeze, but then all of a sudden I had to cough at the same time.

And like the next next thing you knew like I peed my pants.

Yeah.

That's so that's your pelvic floor.

That's your pelvic floor.

Okay.

Yeah.

I feel that

it's like a muscle and like that muscle is like not doing its job and that's okay.

It needs to get swole.

Yeah, it needs like it's

GTL.

Yes, exactly.

It's not bussing.

I'll tell you that.

It's not buzzing.

But I just want to be fair, like a cough and a sneeze at the same time.

And if you had a full bladder, like that's a lot for the pelvis.

It's a lot for the pelvis.

It's a lot for any pelvis.

But if it's like, if it were every sneeze all the time.

So it was like month one postpartum.

It was every, there was no such thing as holding in a toot.

There was no clenching available.

It was just, oh,

that just slipped out.

So the pelvic floor also affects farts and poop?

Yes.

Interesting.

And like, I know you hate talking about this stuff.

I actually, it's funny.

I don't,

I don't dislike talking about like postpartum things i think like we need the more you know star and it's not it's not like gratuitous just bathroom talk for nothing

you know what i mean i don't feel that way no

i just feel like it's

it's you talk so much about labor and delivery not you like the overall you that like postpartum like thank god someone was like no you have to take Mirlax and Kohlace and like all that stuff because like I didn't have like a problem in that department but like, no one talks about it because it's like fucking disgusting.

And then, all of a sudden, you're like, home, and I'm like, oh, like, the diapers thing, like, wasn't just like a cute, like, little bit.

Like, I'm dying.

I was dying.

So, it seems like you're open about this.

You were in diapers for poop?

Oh, no, I wasn't shitting my pants.

That was actually just a couple weeks ago.

It was actually the morning of Claudia hosting the Vince Commuto party.

So, if you wanted just like a timeline, oh, that was like

two days ago.

That was a week ago.

Because I was like, I have to FaceTime you.

I have to tell you a story.

And

it better be good.

She was busy that day with Vince.

Exactly.

I was like, and so she like FaceTimes me.

She's like, tell me really quick, it better be good.

And I'm like, it's not.

It's not.

Like, I just wanted to tell you that I shit my pants this morning.

She's like, I got to go by.

And I was like, okay.

Yeah, I'm ice cold.

But it's cold.

Anyway, so this is a lot of talk and I'm going to start reeling it in now.

But well, no, it's good because what I wanted to talk to you about today is just like catch up, postpartum things I feel like we've talked a little bit since we both gave birth.

We gave birth around the same time, but I feel like for a few weeks, probably because you were going through all of this, I was like chasing you down, trying to be like, how are you?

What's going on?

Like, what are you doing?

How are you feeling?

And so we're just like overdue for a catch up anyway.

So sorry to all listeners, but this is just me and Elizabeth, like girly swirly FaceTime.

Sorry.

Yeah, it's honestly like truly a FaceTime.

And I did get like a couple texts from my mama friends.

And they're like, are you going to talk about mama tings?

and i was like it's my entire personality like it's my entire personality too and i want to know lauren elizabeth as the mama and i feel like other people do too i feel like you post a good amount of content but i just want to hear from you yourself like because also you're so you're such an interesting cat and you're such like an aesthetic like youtube girly influencer and now you're like also a mom but still like snatched to the gods and like olive is in her like beige wares

Okay, she wears a lot of color.

Yeah, she does for you.

Yeah, she does.

We'd like love pink.

I'm not a sad beige mom.

No.

Oh my God.

Is there a worse insult?

I mean, like literally.

Like call

CPS.

There's a sad beige mom in the room.

She's not giving her child primary color.

She's depriving them.

Yeah, like she's not going to learn the rainbow.

Like purple monkey on repeat, okay?

Like shut the fuck up.

Purple monkey on repeat, but I I didn't call you sad, beige.

I, but you have more, like, your neutrals aesthetic.

And of course, you've worked olive into those, especially with her name itself, like, the olive color.

I mean, she's like actually a perfect angel.

It's like what Mary Orton said yesterday.

Cause, like I said, I'm a toaster.

I listen every single day.

Um, these other co-hosts could never.

Are they Patreon members?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Um, actually, Mary Orton is fuck.

No, we love that.

Um, and Shannon is

sorry, Shannon is too baby.

My child is a trick baby.

So trick you into having more.

Like, that's what I call.

I actually always tell people that.

Like, when they ask me how I'm doing, like, my child is perfect, which she looks exactly like her dad and then is perfect.

So, like, if she didn't come out of my vagine, like, I would be like, how are we related?

But yeah, she's amazing.

I love, I love, love, love being a mama.

I think.

And I'm curious to hear your take on this.

Like, I think my biggest pet peeve, and I know it's like an over correction because people for so long like glamorized being moms that like now it's kind of like the opposite of like let me show you how hard this is yeah so now there's this like over correction of being like no like being a mom is so hard and I've been struggling this probably more so the first like few months just because it was so new where like it is so hard to be a mom but I hate how that sounds because I feel like when you say something is hard, it's associated with like, it fucking sucks, don't do it.

Yeah.

And it drives me crazy.

And so I finally am just like, okay, it's challenging, but anything in life that's worth something good is challenging.

Like, don't you feel like there's like this weird, like, you either like love it or you hate it.

Like, it's so annoying.

Yeah, but it's not that.

Like, I love every minute of it.

And I, what I was saying to someone, it's like, my days are not easy.

I wouldn't use the word easy to describe like my life right now, but I would use so many other words that I never would have used before.

So, yeah, we don't have the ease and like casual, and I'm relaxed and everything, but I'm like, so full of love and joy, and just like, I feel like I'm gonna burst with all of those things, which I didn't feel that way before, children.

I was just, you know, chilling,

chilling hard.

Like,

they're chilling hard, chilling like a villain, chilling like a villain.

Stop doing that.

Um, we, yeah, I just feel like I I still chill though.

Like I genuinely do, like not every second of every day, but I feel like a lot of the kind of dialogue around it is like, you'll never sleep again.

Yeah.

You'll never have anyone take care of you again.

You'll never, and it's just like, bro, like chill.

Like it's not that deep.

Like it just like makes your life better.

And then you sound like such a cliche of like, I love being a mother.

No, I totally feel you to my core.

It's like, yes, I don't have sleep right now.

But again, I have other things that I didn't have when I did have sleep.

And so are you still not sleeping?

Well, as of this week, and I don't want to jinx anything, but when we were in New York, Charlie like hadn't been sleeping through the night yet.

It had gotten like better to like one bottle in the night.

And then in New York, like it was, it was not good because we were sharing a room too.

So like, I think we were like just messing.

And we just like kept bringing him into bed with us.

So when we got back this week, I just like started anew and was going to practice like better sleep habits.

And this week has been so much better.

Like three out of four nights this week, he's more or less slept through the night, which is like

so, so exciting.

Also in the crib.

In the crib.

Wow.

A big hack, which I don't know if this is the thing, but we started doing it when we got home from New York.

And I don't know if it's a coincidence that now he's sleeping better.

Double diaper.

Okay, so diaper.

And we've been using overnight diaper since they start making them at size three.

We've been using them since they were available to us, but double diaper.

So I didn't know you could do double diaper.

You know what I do?

It basically looks like a giant period pad, but it's a diaper pad.

In the diaper.

Oh, so it's like diaper and I'm not sure.

So it's like, yeah, like it looks like the, like a female like pad, and I, I put it in the diaper.

Like she like goes to sleep with a pad inside of the diaper.

So it's basically, it's essentially a double diaper, but someone just like created a product.

Consumers, I'm a consumer.

So I could easily use two diapers, but yeah, no, I do the same thing.

Okay, great.

No one tells you that.

It's been really

great so far.

So I'm just trying a lot of like different little

changes.

I think it is.

It's not like he was always waking up wet, not even close, but like maybe a little wet.

Maybe, I don't know.

Yeah.

And like, he just like, he might not like vibe like that.

He might be like, I like being dry.

Yeah.

You know, dry, great, whereas, like, my daughter, like,

my daughter wakes up and she's covered in piss.

And she's just like, she doesn't give a shit.

She's like, I just wanted you, bitch.

And I'm like, she's, she also tricks me into being like,

like the biggest fake cry.

And then I bring her in bed and she's just like, chill.

She's like, I'm like, you little fucker.

You just wanted to come in mommy and daddy's room.

Oh, yeah.

But the thing is, if I bring him into bed and he's happy in bed, I'm like, great, we're all happy.

Back to sleep for all of us.

That's how I am too.

But like now I'm like, oh, like I'm starting like such bad habits.

I don't think so.

We used to do the same thing with Harry.

Like he would sleep until six and then we'd bring him in bed till like eight.

Oh yeah, no, I do that.

I'm talking like 2 a.m.

Oh, but you have to just call it a regression and move on.

I know how I'm like, oh my gosh.

Everything goes on.

I'm like, it's a phase.

Oh, she's, she's learning something.

She's growing.

She's teething.

She's growing.

She's learning how to roll over.

It's all happening and she can't sleep.

No, but for real, that's what it is.

So

it's.

Okay, let's.

I'm going to shut the fuck up because every I'm going to make everything about me anyway.

So I'm going to let you do your job a little bit.

Oh, no, I'm having fun.

Of course, like, you know how it, you know how I feel about this, about stories in general.

Like, I don't give a rip.

Today's stories are good, but they don't require like rip the fast five oodles and noodles of time and i really did want to catch up with you about postpartum tings so i feel like we've done i feel like you did so i feel like you did so well postpartum like almost to a point of like unrealistic standard like for women

yeah i would say unrealistic working standard i would also say that yes postpartum after the second for me was much easier than postpartum after the first because i felt like a pro and i knew what i was doing and I felt really comfortable and I felt like I could enjoy things and be excited but it was one of the craziest work times it still is I was saying to someone like I've never worked harder in my life period well I was thinking about this while I was getting ready yesterday and I was just like I don't think people like realize like how hard Jackie and Claudia work and I know like Mary Orton said a similar sentiment but it's true like you guys work so hard and I feel like that's why the three of us like connected so long ago is because like we all have this like almost like underdog syndrome oh chip like have chip syndrome ourselves the chip like

a chip syndrome yeah it's like and we're all like just constantly like over hustling and like not delegating and like not putting things into other people's hands but doing that with like two children is just it's i can't imagine like you're over here like podcasting up the wazoo and i'm over here like quitting my podcast to have a child so no but like mad respect

but i also feel like it's like the way that you quit your podcast is the way that like i don't do things that maybe I would do if I don't do the things that you don't want to do.

No, when I don't do things that maybe other podcasters are doing because I'm like, I cannot fit that on my plate.

Like my plate is stuffed.

I don't say yes to everything.

In fact, quite the opposite.

Like I do the things that

you need doing.

You won't even get TikTok for God's sake.

I won't even get TikTok.

I wanted to ask you one more mama question about something that you were saying about like positive mama influences.

Who are people that you like to follow, fellow mamas who you think like do a great job of showcasing the mama experience and also like people who you shop from a lot.

Um, so the first one that comes to mind is honestly a lot of TikTokers because they do like day in the lives.

And it's like on TikTok, I feel like it's like these just genuine, like stay-at-home moms or working moms that just decided to start doing TikTok.

Like it's like not people like me that were like have been on the internet like forever and that are influencers.

So it's like this really, I love like following them because it's like just real people, like genuinely just real people that were like, I'm bored at home.

I'm going to film myself or whatever.

So I love just like everyone on TikTok.

But when it comes to like actually like shopping and doing similar things, I mean,

I don't know.

I feel like it's almost like the algorithm just like serves me content.

Oh, yeah.

And you see like other people who you don't know.

It's just like suggested for you.

And like, I don't know them, but I'm like taking tips and stuff.

Cause like I get so much of my like information from Instagram and it's not like I'm like taking everything like to heart It's more so like I'm taking everything with a grain of salt and just like remembering everything Yeah, but I feel that way about reels like I'll see a tip Zach and I are always like sending stuff back and forth or like a product recommendation He falls for that stuff so quickly He's like a you know, I'm like

a water table hack like we have one of those like water tables and someone like showed how to like put their hose in it so it's like constantly streaming water and he's like getting all the gadgets on Amazon.

He's just like, it didn't fucking work.

Really?

Yeah.

See, like, I would do the same thing.

But, like, I'm like, I have like one of those like bouncy, like, jumper things, the jolly jumper.

And then I like see this like one TikTok.

And it's like, the, it's like jumping is actually a skill that they, they don't really like motor skills that they don't use and need till they're actually 18 months old.

So it's actually like not good for them and their hips and they should be in a walker, blah, blah, blah.

And like, I see that and like now it lives rent.

Like these things live rent free in my brain.

And that's like, I want to say I've seen some things about walkers not good for their hips.

Like they're not used to walking like that and then when they do eventually walk they'll be pigeon-toed if they're in their walker too much.

I mean like what the fuck like you can't like you can't win

I like do I want my daughter to be pigeon-toed?

No.

So like what am I supposed to do?

Hold her all goddamn day?

Like I don't know to say no no I'm not saying that's what's gonna happen.

I'm saying like they have something to say about everything.

Yeah, exactly.

There's like best

you, mama.

It's also I'm a speech pathologist, pediatrician, mama of four, and this.

And here is how I recommend introducing solids to your bibet.

And I'm like,

okay.

How's that?

How is this going for you, by the way?

I feel like you're doing baby-lead weaning.

I saw all I was some chunky food.

Okay.

First of all.

She was eating chunks.

Okay.

Whoa.

Like chunk shaman.

She was eating.

No, that's baby lead weaning, where they eat like not puree.

I don't know what baby lead weaning is.

You think I don't get served this shit?

That's what I meant by chunks, like not puree.

What's the word?

Oh, I'm sorry, salads.

She doesn't love a chunky moment, honestly.

She doesn't love a salad?

No, she loves a puree.

She's a big little spoon girl.

And she loves her purees.

And so I'm trying to like put more salads in front of her just for experience.

Cause I saw a TikTok that once told me it was good for experience.

And

she like won't touch a fucking strawberry.

And I'm like, start like, whatever.

So I'm just shoving.

shoving the fish.

It's okay.

She doesn't want to eat strawberry.

Yeah, she doesn't.

But you know, then my all my friends' kids are eating strawberries.

And I'm like, bitch, why don't you want a fucking strawberry?

She doesn't like a strawberry.

I know.

She doesn't like a strawberry.

And I feel as though strawberries are kind of inconsistent.

Like one day they're good and the next day they have no flavor and they're white on the inside.

My mother-in-law was saying this morning, she was like, the ones from Costco down here taste like shit.

She needs a Florida strawberry.

She does.

We go strawberry picking here.

I'll send you some.

Oh, we're going to come berry picking.

But yeah, salads are going great.

And I love it because, oh, I know.

know, I gave her french fries.

That's probably what you're thinking of.

Like, I love it because, like,

you made French fries,

that's what it was.

You made French fries for her.

Because I'm mentoring my trad wife.

I know what I'm talking about.

Olive does not only eat purees.

Yeah, but like,

it's because I feel like now I'm getting to like feel this like greater sense of purpose within myself now that I'm able to cook for my daughter.

Like, I feel like maybe that's how mamas feel with breastfeeding.

Like, I didn't really feel that.

It was really bad for my mental health.

So I had to stop.

But now that I'm able to cook for her, like, I feel this immense joy and purpose in life.

And just like,

I feel, it feels so rewarding.

Do you?

So like, yeah, she's getting french fries made from scratch.

Nara Smith, my ass.

Do you find like that becoming a mama has made you crunchy and

clean and caring about all these things that you might not have cared about before?

Yes and no, because I think that I was a little bit crunchy and clean before.

Okay.

But I'm also a Midwest girly at heart.

So like I grew up eating like McDonald's for breakfast and lunch.

Like I'm someone that's like very much about balance.

I'm like, it's not going to fucking kill you.

Like, everything's going to kill you.

Pick your poison.

Um, but I'm definitely like, I try to do my best just because, like, when I look at her, I'm like, you're like a blank slate.

Like, you know, I'm like, I don't, you don't have to eat McDonald's.

Like, I don't have to give that to you.

Um, not that I would be giving her McDonald's at six, seven months, but

I mean, McFlurry, it's it's puree.

I mean, McFlurry sounds a lot like Little Spoon Puree to me.

I mean, we did, like, we gave her an ice cream sandwich

two days ago, and she was like, What the fuck is this?

It's freezing cold.

And then she went, Wait a second.

Yeah.

Take it back.

This is nice.

I'll have more.

More.

Like, I want her to experience life.

So I just think

I always use this example, right?

You're going to hate it.

You could die from smoking a vape, or you could die from tripping down the stairs.

Are you not going to take the stairs?

Wow.

That's big.

That's major.

So equally equated.

Mind blows.

Knock your socks off, man.

Knock your socks off.

So I don't know.

I'm clean.

I'm crunchy.

I think you and me together are, I think we are going to start making sourdough.

I think that's what I'm going to hold us accountable for.

Well, Instagram and Mark Zuckerberg really want me to make sourdough.

I'm getting

post is fucking sourdough.

Like,

I am interested in a fresh piece of sourdough, but I don't want to make it.

I'm sorry.

Like, that's one of those things I'm saying no to.

I can't put on my plate.

I would love to find, though, like a micro bakery in my area because of mamas who make sourdough and then they start to sell their wares because they make a lot.

Oh, the micro bakeries.

Like, I would love to find a sourdough maker in my area and get fresh sourdough.

Same for like farm fresh eggs and such, but I'm not going to be able to do it.

You're going to take your network.

How have you not found one?

I haven't put the call out, honestly, till now.

I mean, toaster is getter.

Like, someone's got to know someone.

Yeah.

What's a great sourdough bakery in South Florida where it's like fresh sourdough, like I see on Instagram?

I want ballerina farm style.

Because then it's like not bad for you.

No, then you can like eat bread at home.

It's not bad for you at all.

It's just store-bought shit is bad for you.

So I'm like, oh, you're telling me I could eat more bread if I just like make it at home?

Like, sure.

Sure.

Sure.

Are you going to make it home?

And also, like, the slander on the Wisconsin eggs the other day?

Okay, I just need to say, Wisconsinites, don't get your brag us in a twist.

What I said.

No, I'm here to represent.

I'm here to represent my Midwest toasters.

You got it, because they're up in Wisconsin.

Reading comprehension.

what I said was,

what I had said was,

I thought they were from down the road, a local farm.

Instead, they're from Wisconsin, obviously like a plane, train, and automobile away.

It could have been from California and I would have been upset.

It wasn't about Wisconsin.

It was about the distance.

Right.

It's a distance thing.

But, you know, I knew that deep down, but I still wanted to come on here and make sure Wisconsin felt heard.

The way that they would come for me when I've had one of their local heroes on the show this week, Mary Orton, and you think that I don't support Wisconsin?

I know.

I mean, I love Wisconsin.

I love a good Wisconsin.

I was there for New Year's.

It was great.

I had a party.

But

that you guys would think I don't support Wisconsin is disgusting.

I mean,

it sounded like you didn't.

And then they go, and then they go, they're always coming from Wisconsin.

Like,

what else have we done to you?

What else did we do?

No, I think like Detroit you were you were coming from Detroit a couple months ago, which is nearby.

Like these are all the places that like I take on as a whole, you know?

Yeah, I cover the Midwest territory.

So like

you guys like kind of like disrespect the Midwest a little bit.

Well, I don't know if it makes you feel any better, but when I think of Wisconsin, Detroit, and Chicago, like I don't group them together in my mind.

Like

really hard together.

When I think of Wisconsin, like I think of like top left of the country, not yeah, but like Jackie, like when I'm going to like a lake house, like I'm going to Wisconsin.

like I can be in Wisconsin in like 45 minutes.

No, I believe that's like where I go.

You're right, you know, but I'm just saying the way I associate it, I'm not just like Wisconsin right in Chicago, yucky.

I'm like, Wisconsin to me, it feels like

if I had to pick out Wisconsin on map, I'd be wrong because I would think it was like above California.

That's where I feel like.

But see, like, that's what I don't love about geography.

Is like, it really should be more feeling-based because that's how I feel as well.

Like, I don't want to know where it is on the map.

I'm going to tell you where I feel like it is.

And something where I felt like that, I've now like taught myself because I know it's not right.

Like the, where I feel like Chicago is in the country versus where it actually is are two different places.

I feel like it's dead center of this country, like probably

like Kansas, but it's actually like just to the left of New York.

Yeah, see, like, I feel as though, like, sometimes I'm like, am I close to Canada?

Like, could be.

You know, skipping a jump.

You're close to Michigan, yeah?

Yeah.

But it doesn't, that's like, I don't want to get into geography because I'm going to expose myself.

Like in the beginning of the episode, like I said, I was a dumbass.

Like, I'm not fucking kidding.

I blame my mother.

She transferred me schools right before we had to take the geography 50 states test and like fill in all the blanks.

And I switched schools.

I never had to take it.

So I'm an idiot.

Well, I also feel like transferring schools builds character.

So maybe you wouldn't be the online sensation that you are

if you had it.

100%.

So it's one or the other.

No geography or bust in personality.

What's it going to be?

Bust in personality.

A little bit of trauma, a little bit of transition, and boom, you're a podcaster.

Boom.

Who's going to quit?

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Our first story today is a bit of architectural news as Emma Roberts is sharing her new home, calling it a grown-up dollhouse in LA.

So Emma Roberts gave Architectural Digest a tour of her home and it is very, I feel like if you follow Emma Roberts, it's actually not

a departure from where you think she would live.

But I feel like if you just think of her as like Hollywood, young, modern, then you'd be surprised at the style of her home because it's very, um

what's I'm sure there's a word for it but I feel like it's not that like typical new modern look that everyone's going for modern farmhouse etc like her house has so much personality she has dolls character she character she collects dolls of course she collects books there's so much like texture and fabric and patterns in her home and she recently moved to this home with her three-year-old son Rhodes and so it's really just designed like for the two of them to just have like a magical cozy spot cozy is the vibe that she's constantly going for which i feel to my core and i just love emma roberts i love you know what makes me so upset though she's not with garrett hudland anymore i know and he is one of my like fantasy men like when i when i read my books you know my smut yeah like he's he lives rent-free in my head and i just like i'm upset that he's not living there with her like she could be like

even more like country for us too.

Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah, but I feel like

it's upsetting, but then I know that this must must be for the absolute best.

And I think there was like a lot of drama and that they weren't, like, he was not right for her.

And she, like, I think she would be with him if, if it was good.

So I think it was not good.

Well, I mean, like, you'd assume so, right?

But like, I mean, wasn't she like kind of like into shit with Evan Peters too?

It's like, I just like want her to like find the person that's like going to be good for her and like good for the son now that there's a Bibbet involved.

So I think she has a boyfriend.

She does.

She talks about him in a video.

And I think she's she's had a boyfriend for a while.

Something that he got her something or whatever.

And I remember like we reported a while ago about like a picture of her and a guy.

So they've been together for a while.

Yeah, it's just, you know, it's always like a boyfriend.

Like, I want her to find the one, you know?

I agree with that.

But I hate the term, I hate the term doll, adult dollhouse.

Like, that made me sick.

When you sent it.

Like, I hated that.

Which part?

Cause you know, she collects dolls.

All of it.

Like, i didn't know that like literally you you texted me the article you're like this is what we're gonna talk about and it said emma roberts like architectural dias growing up a doll dollhouse i was like

i can't even say it like what's funny though is like it's a dollhouse in the sense that like it's a house for all of her dolls but when i think of aesthetically like what a dollhouse is like i don't think of this i think of like polly pocket like oh

is a dollhouse to me yeah

that's true that well that's like a barbie yeah like a barbie dream house Yeah, I guess like I feel like this is more like old school dollhouse.

Like Jennerink, you see the back of the house.

Every room is really decorated.

Yeah, like different like patterns and fabrics.

And I mean, I love

the, I love interior design, obviously.

And I love that she is into all like the character pieces and different patterns and textures and all that stuff.

I think my biggest pet peeve peeve is when people like try to act like they're like so cool and so different.

Like, yeah, like i don't like i like love books and i like love collecting but like she doesn't give me that vibe she gives me the vibe like a genuine vibe of like she actually likes that stuff yes and i think it's very her i agree it does it does not seem put on at all i actually now in looking at pictures of her home and just knowing the xle aesthetic i feel like you know they're two separate circles as a venn diagram there's like i think a little bit of like a crossover in like some stuff of like i would go like antiquing at her place and find a couple knickknacks okay that's cool.

You know, what I thought was interesting is the design firm that she hired for her house, Pearson Ward, they had said that they never want a home to look new.

That is a very common thing.

I think I always refer to it too as commercial, which basically means that like you're going to go and you're going to buy all of your stuff at one time, like at the same time in one place.

So like whenever I would move, my mom would always say like, do not just like move into this apartment and go to West Elm, Creighton Barrel, and CB2, buy all this crap and have your apartment be fully done.

Like, you have to be able to collect things

and grow and like antique things and grow with things.

So, it looks like a home that's actually lived in, not just like this brand new staged home.

So, I do agree with that.

I agree with that too.

But then, how do they achieve that look?

You know, I guess actually, she's been living here for a while because she talked about how she lived there and her bathroom floors were white, then they switched to the tile, and then she had like a ballerina bar in her bathroom from the old owners.

She wound up not using it, so eventually she put in a vanity.

So, I do feel like this is like staggered renovating and design yeah it's staggered renovating and design and I think it's also like making sure like you don't do everything in one sitting in one place so it could also just be like yeah unless yeah then you really look like the showroom for restoration hardware right so it's like

some pieces I never thought of that as a bad thing like when other when I've seen other people who like oh I'm like oh Joe because it makes it look really put together yeah it makes it look really put together you're like damn like I'm literally at restoration hardware like that's sick yeah but I get but then it's like do you live there?

Do you have kids?

Yeah.

And it's like, what are your kids?

What are they going to remember from like, you know, just things about your house that are so unique to your house?

She talked about how she put wallpaper on her son's ceiling because she remembers growing up like looking, like, you spend so much time, like as a kid

looking up at your ceiling and like just contemplating life.

And that's like a seared in memory in your brain.

Like she had like low in the dark stars.

And so he has like this duck wallpaper on his ceiling that I'm sure, you know, in 20 years, when he sees that wallpaper, like it's going to take him back.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God.

I mean, that's so cute, especially when you're thinking of like putting things together like i even saw a meme the other day that was like the craziest part about being a parent is realizing that you're now responsible for someone's house smell oh yeah you know how like when you would go to your friend's house and you'd be like oh it smells like greg's house or whatever i'm like oh my god like what the is my house smell gonna like what are they gonna say i know we need to like how and the thing about your smell is you can't smell it that's the that's the thing i never know what it is i guess you need like a close friend to come in and just like give it a stamp of approval or be like you need how do you even change your smell?

How you change your detergent,

it's you change your hand cleaning products exactly,

and then candles.

Like, I think anything that has a scent that is in your home on a regular basis all combines within like your body odor and pheromones, and then it's like your house smell.

But I think it's mostly detergent.

I think it's mostly detergent

scent, like candles and stuff.

Yeah.

And maybe

bath products.

Oh, yes, because it's like your soap.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

That is frightening though.

It's frightening.

But anyway, Emma Roberts, I absolutely love her.

I, did you ever watch her an American Horror Story with Kim Kardashian?

I never watched it.

I didn't watch it either.

I'm not an American Horror Story swirly, but I am an Emma Roberts swirly.

So whenever she does like any of her movies or anything, like I'm first in line.

I, I, I support.

I love it.

Yeah.

And her home just like gave off a really peaceful vibe.

She's also a huge reader.

Obviously, she has her book club and like she is like a serious reader.

No, she's reading like Joan Didion.

Like she is

not reading smart.

It's not something that's put on either because you can't fake that.

Like seriously, how many dreadful books can you read just to for your brand?

You can't.

You can't.

You can pretend maybe.

I don't know.

You can, but then like, I feel like she talks about the book.

I mean, unless it's like

a huge lifelong grift where she's like reading Spark notes or an assistant is reading it and like telling her what to say.

But that would seriously be like sociopathic behavior and i don't for one second think that but i guess it could be done it could it could be done it could be done especially if you're not like a big talker like you're not going on podcasts all the time like no one's asking you questions but i i have to admit i did something what did you do you became a redhead I'm always for, oh, fuck.

I literally, I'm so close to finishing Bye-bye, baby.

I was trying so hard to finish it.

What is it?

By the time we podcasted together.

I love it so far.

And you are dead on.

I'll only speak to what you've said on the toast, not the redheads, because I haven't finished it either.

And so I haven't listened to the episode, But they do a really good she does a really good job of like talking about the influencer.

Yeah, you know like saying like I like pulled out my phone I posted this story.

It's like I see parts of myself in her that it makes me hate myself obviously I'm like oh my god I'm insufferable

But then there's other parts where I'm like oh, okay like no like she like I keep going back and forth of like who I feel for between the two characters essentially right now finish the book and then you have to listen to the redheads and then I do want to chat with you about it.

I agree.

There are parts of her that I see myself, but I don't dislike.

And then there are other things that she does that are insufferable.

I'm like, oh, well, at least I don't do that.

Right.

It's like there's like parts that I'm just, there's like human parts that I feel connected to.

And then there's other parts where I'm like, okay, like this is like a little bit like radonculous.

But then like I hated Billy at the beginning and now I'm like starting to like really feel for her.

And so I'm like, how am I going to get here?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

But

I, the thing that I did is I bought Demon Copperhead, a hardcover at Target.

And are you going to read it or are you going to walk around with it?

TBD, to be completely honest.

I want to read it, but it is probably going to take me so long to get there that I feel like it's better I get this off my chest now.

Well, I feel like with Demon Copperhead, you have to get to like, you have to get to the part where it gets interesting and then it'll be all downhill from there, but it is an uphill battle until a certain point, like maybe like 20 or 30%.

But then you'll be like so into it that like you won't want to put it down because it's genuinely good.

But like you have to give it time and space and grace.

You have to give grace to Demon.

i i mean i can give grace i really can i believe we all deserve grace i believe i'm gonna read it i'm gonna do it but like i just wanted to like be completely um you know authentic because that's what we do here and i listened i'm a toaster and i went out and i was influenced and i bought demon copper had paperback so wow literary get on my level dumb bitch who dumb bitch where i don't see one

right here

Okay, well, our next story is some exciting citizenship news.

Well, not citizenship, but, you know, exciting for the country.

Prince Harry has officially renounced his British residency.

He's listing the U.S.

as his new country on documents.

So Prince Harry has renounced his British residency and claimed America as his home and new paperwork.

On Wednesday, for the first time since Kate Middleton announced her cancer diagnosis, he spoke via a video link at Travelist's annual general meeting.

Wow, is there like a Zoom presentation this man won't show up to?

Travelist is a sustainable travel organization that he founded in 2019.

Sure.

Sure.

Sure.

It's a nonprofit based in London and is part of the organization's procedures at the end of the year.

Company returns were filed with Harry's new details.

On it, he declared that his new country/slash date was now the United States.

I'm sorry, but for a man who like literally doesn't have one job, he has so many.

Like he does Travelist.

He does, you know, mentalhelp.com, whatever that one is.

He does his now polo.

Paul's in mentalhelp.com.

His polo documentary, which they were seen in Florida at the Polo tourney.

Is he physically in it or is he just like producing directing?

I think both, but I think both, but I don't know.

Okay.

Because like polo is obviously objectively like interesting.

It's just like the Prince Harry of it all is like kind of being like, I don't know if I need you to tell me about polo necessarily.

But then also like you're renouncing, like you're not.

a part of the U.S.

anymore.

Then why are you talking to me about polo?

Like pick and side.

I know they

can't find their footing, their branding footing.

I think they're working on it and hopefully they'll get to where they need to go.

And it might be American Riviera Orchard, but they're trying on a lot of things.

Which I love, by the way.

It's giving ballerina farm.

It is, but I'd rather see ballerina farm.

That's the thing.

It's like, I don't know if you can do it as well.

And I

just feel their branding is so weird for two people that have like endless amounts of resources.

You have the most random fucking jobs.

No, like, honestly, goals.

Like, I'd love to be paid for doing literally nothing.

I kind of do, but it's just, I mean, close, but I'd love to do even more nothing.

Yeah, and get the paychecks they're getting.

And I want to say about the polo thing, on the one hand, it's like, okay, we don't need you to center yourself, but on the other hand, like, you are Prince Harry and you should be camera on camera.

You don't need Prince Harry behind the scenes.

What's the point?

Yeah, I mean, but that it's almost like they tried to do that with like some of the Disney stuff and then

even whatever they were doing with their like Archwell or whatever stuff.

Well, that's the thing.

Like production, production.

Yeah, production, but also you need to be on camera because we do care about, like, are there two more interesting people technically?

Like, no.

So, yeah, and they have a lot of things.

That's what I'm saying.

Just like that aside.

Prince, Harry, Megan, Markle, Duchess, Duke, Sussex, Archwell, American, Riviera, Orchard.

We're at 11, and I'm probably forgetting stuff.

There's, and there's probably also just like adjacent words that like aren't that they don't claim like prince princess right exactly that's what i'm saying like there's like so many

mountbatten

Like, so many things.

And I'm just like,

lean in, lean into something.

Lean into something.

Like, it could be anything.

Like, do you want to be famous or do you not want to be famous?

Do you want to be on camera?

Do you not want to be on camera?

Do you want to be British?

Do you want to be American?

Like, pick a freaking thing and stick with it.

Like, they don't stick.

It's just constant.

Yeah.

Agreed.

Well, the news here is that

now, like, his place of residence is the U.S.

I mean, of course.

Yeah, but it's giving, it's giving like someone at TMZ was doing their annual, like, their daily checking court documents and just like saw this.

Yeah, it was Daily Mail.

They love to check in.

I feel like Daily Mail is to the Prince, Megan, and Harry as like TMZ is to

the Kardashians.

Exactly.

Like, someone on, so it's someone's job at Daily Mail to like plug in their algorithm and like find all the court documents of the day.

And then they're like, oh, look, here's one.

He's officially this or that or whatever.

Does he have to pay taxes here?

For sure.

Because

think about it, his income is being mailed to him in California.

So he's paying Florida income tax, property tax, right?

But does he have to pay UK tax too?

I think so.

He's still a citizen.

You think so?

I think so.

That's a good question.

This is where I'm going to start.

I think he's in me too, but I do think like when you're in transition, like you pay double because you don't want to like get fucked by either one.

Yeah, it's just weird.

Yeah, because I guess you're a citizen that's making income, but then you're also a resident that's making income.

Yeah, I think.

And that's when I go to jail.

That's when I get locked up.

You think you would sooner get locked up than just be like, okay, so take all my money.

No, like I already do that.

I already say like, take all my money, but you think you still get like, I think I would, I think I would fuck it up.

Yeah, I would fuck it up and then they'd be like, prison.

And I'd be like,

yeah, let's go.

Take me away, boys.

Take me away.

I'll be like, this is going to be great for my content.

She's with her 10 and she's seven.

Can Can I bring my camera?

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

I am.

Christina Applegate declined a Real Housewise of Beverly Hills offer.

Producers said that she would be boring.

So TV veteran and Emmy women, Christina Applegate, was once asked to star in the Real House Eyes of Beverly Hills, but she declined the role.

She said, I was asked to be a housewife for Beverly Hills.

She was on a podcast with Jamie Lynn Sigler.

She said, they asked me to be one probably 10 years ago, I would say.

She said she turned down the spot on the highly successful show because she felt that she wouldn't bring enough of the drama that was required.

Quote, I wouldn't have shown up for any dinners.

I would have been in my sweatpants.

I would be laying down in bed.

What fun is that?

None.

I would be the worst housewife anyway.

I ended up becoming really good friends with the executive producer of Beverly Hills because our kids went to school together.

And after a few months of getting to know the producer, she turned to him one day and asked, now that you know me, and would I have been a fun housewife?

And he's like, no, it would have been the most boring shit I've ever seen in my life.

Know thyself.

Well, that makes sense because they're friends.

Know thyself.

know thyself for sure 10 years ago makes more sense though because like i was like right now

i was like that's right now yeah that seems like too much um but yeah i'm sure like you know she's a young thing 10 years ago they probably were like ooh let's get this big name and 10 years ago they were really casting big actresses names like ivy davidson lisa rena

and i could see her name have being up in that mix Yeah, I mean, I don't know her as much like on a personal level to where I can be like, yeah, like she is such a homebody.

Um, but like you said, know thyself.

And I, you have to, even if you are that type of person, if you sign up for that show, you just have to like go do the things that you wouldn't normally do.

Yeah.

So it's like, if you're not willing to like play the game, yeah.

Like, I don't even know if I would be willing to play the game, to be honest.

Yeah, because we are home bodies.

Yeah, it's like, I just want to be with the kids at home on the couch.

on my phone.

Yeah.

But I do think to a degree, like, if you're going to be a working mom, being a real housewife isn't the worst job.

You know, it's filmed seasonally.

So like you have a couple busy months.

I guess you have to take those cash trips.

So that's hard.

But you film a few hours during the day and then you're kind of off for the rest of the year.

You make a good living.

For like the stay-at-home working mom hybrid, which I think is what a lot of moms are doing now, you know, work even like moms who work from home, a corporate job and work from home, but they're also technically stay-at-home moms.

Like it's.

Well, that's why I'm saying it's like, if you don't have like childcare, like while you're working, like you're still a stay-at-home mom.

You're just not like a trad wife because you're traditionally,

technically a trad wife is someone that doesn't have a job or income or like anything like that.

Yes.

And not like the aesthetic, but like the actual like definition.

But I feel like if you're a Beverly Hills housewife, like you're in a position where you're probably chilling like a villain.

Like you got money, bunny.

Oh, that's it.

And you're hanging.

That's kind of a you know what I mean?

So it's like, it's a pre, yeah.

And so it's like, it it's a nice job in a sense of like if you want to like be famous I guess which I a lot of them do a lot of them she's already famous do and it's like trad wife.

I always forget like it's about not like being a traditional wife in the sense of like not working but I always more so think of it as like cooking and cleaning and but also like working and

but now there's like all this like draw like not drama but you know I'm deep on the talk and everyone's like Nara Smith's not a trad wife because and like she well because she's not, I mean, think about she literally, she has her husband also take care of the children.

He cleans.

He does her hair.

He does the kids' hair.

He, she is a supermodel.

She works.

She's an influencer.

She edits.

Like, technically speaking, like, she is a working mama.

Yeah.

No, of course.

She just cooks from scratch.

She's a homestead.

It's more a compliment.

She's a homesteading, working mom wife.

Like when I take a blueberry and I smush it with my fingers to give to my child, I am a trad wife homesteader.

You are homesteading.

You are.

Yeah, like because I didn't go out and buy the puree.

I literally smushed a blueberry with my fingers.

Like I'm homegrown.

Yeah.

I'm homestead.

Yeah.

Olive isn't organized.

Might as well go to Wisconsin.

Like I could get eggs from up the road in Wisconsin.

You could.

You should go to that farm.

I'm going to find it.

But yeah, like I love being in my trad wife homestead era, but like ultimately, like we aren't technically abiding by the definition.

Yeah, i know but it's like so on the one hand it's like i guess trad wife is meant to be

like you should be like relieved to not be called a trad wife or i don't but it's like no what call me a trad wife even though i'm like certainly not but i am

exactly that's what i'm saying i'm like i'm not but i am i'm not but i am like okay so we need a third word we need a third word right like what are we then we're stay-at-home working moms i feel like it's like Then people are like, yeah, but your job is so easy.

Like, you're not a real working mom.

It's like, so am I working or am I I not?

Like, I'm not a stay-at-home mom, but I'm not a working mom.

So, like, literally, what am I?

Yeah.

Sound off in the comments.

Sound off.

Yeah.

What am I?

We do need a third word.

Yeah, because it's like the in-between working, like, it's like a hybrid, right?

Yeah.

Stay-at-home working mom.

And then also homesteading if you are smushing your own blueberries.

Well, that's the thing.

It's like, I really truly identify with homesteading and trad.

Like, I

like I'm very close to making my own sourdough.

So, like, I want to somehow find a word that like has to do with that for us, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to still have that rustic energy in our new definition.

Like a modern mod wife.

Mod wife.

Oh, sounds a little like Mod Wife.

I like it though, because we're gangsters.

Mod wives.

We're gangsta, gangsta.

My sourdough has garlic in it, motherfucker.

Watch out, it packs a punch.

Have you ever met two more gangster girls?

Literally never.

We're mod wives.

Mod wives.

Homesteading mod wives.

Homesteading mod wives.

And you know what?

People then, you know how like then the mod wives and the chad wives, they like make a TikTok with someone speaking on top of them.

And it's usually from a podcast.

Yeah, someone's going to clip this for sure.

Please do.

Please do.

He's a new asshole.

Because we kind of don't know how to.

It's already ripped.

It's already ripped.

It's already ripped.

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Our next story is a bit of children's content news.

I don't know if you've seen this, but Bluey sort of like broke the internet this week.

This was on my list of things to ask you about.

Is Bluey ending?

Parents are freaking out over the sign episode.

So Bluey dropped their season three finale called The Sign this week and apparently was very emotional and like the parents are crying.

Did you watch it?

Okay, so I haven't watched it because I'm a big Blueies fan though, which when you posted on your Instagram that Bluey is a girl.

No, you guys, guys, I feel like we can't go any further.

I cannot get over, like, I still haven't like reprogrammed my mind.

Bluey, if you guys have watched the kids' show Bluey, you need to know that Bluey is apparently a girl.

And I only know this because we were watching Bluey, so I bought some Bluey books.

And in the books, like the pronouns are she,

and so Bluey's a girl, Bingo is a girl, which I knew they're sisters.

It's a show about sisterhood.

Like, I literally never would have thought that.

I'm sorry, but Bluey looks like the dad, and the name Bluey, like Blue,

like

gender-conforming, conforming, but like Blue Boy.

And it's like, Blue looks like the dad and Bingo looks like the mom.

So I'm like really trying to wrap my head around this.

I, when you posted that, I think I messaged you like three times in a row.

I'm like, no, like, you're lying.

Like, what?

Like, what are you talking about?

And then even I was watching an episode yesterday and

it was the, it was like the dad, Bluey's dad and his brother.

So they were like, it's always the older brother with the younger brother.

And I was like, wait, maybe they're not, but they were talking about each other.

And then they like reconfirmed that they were so

like or something yeah some like I don't know like the drunkle but I was like yeah in one of the stories in the book they go to like Uncle Scrubs pool and it's like it's clear he throws parties like it's no like he fucks yeah there's like a wet bar

yeah

he has like that pool cleaner that's like scaring bingo because it's like that snake looking pool cleaner because like you know there's like a lot going on in that pool which like which like does like scare dogs i will say those snake pool cleaners but like there's stds in that pool for sure and they we have to like look like protect bluey at all costs but i didn't watch it because like i have like abandonment syndrome and issues and like i saw all these parents on tick tock talking about bluey like moving and then all of a sudden it's like this emotional episode and i'm like i can't go through that right now like i simply can't bear it No, and also I need to wait.

So I was going to ask you if you've watched that.

No, I haven't because our kids aren't at the age yet where they like watch shows episodically.

It's like when I turn something on, I'll just like turn on a random episode.

It's like, we're not all caught up on Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

Like, it's just like, oh, like, we want to watch the one about the farm.

So, I didn't realize people were like waiting week to week for Bluey and like the season finale dropped.

And it was like, is Bluey coming back for another season?

Like, I never really think that.

about these kids' shows, except for Bebe Finn, because there was like only one season on Netflix.

Do you know Bebe Finn yet?

Bebe Finn.

It's a show on Netflix.

It's Pink Fong, so it's like Baby Shark vibe.

And there used to only be three episodes on Netflix, but they were like an hour long.

And it's just like Bebe Finn and his brother and sister like singing with their parents.

It's like cute, swirly stuff.

Then the new episodes dropped.

And I was actually watching them.

And I feel like Bebe Finn started as, you know, I'm very critical of shows that are like too fast paced and like drugs for children.

Like, you know what I mean?

I'm sure you've seen that content.

Like Cocomelon is cracked.

Cocomelon, I refuse.

So we don't do Cocomelon because it cuts screens like too quickly.

Like it's like flashing lights and it's

acting.

And it's meant to be because they want the kids to like watch it forever and get them hooked.

So we don't watch stuff like that.

And I felt like with Bebe Finn, it was just like, you know, singing nursery rhymes, having fun, like learning things.

But I felt like season two, it was like they hooked you in with season once.

It's like, oh, okay, Bebbe Finn, like, he's a lovable character.

And then, oh, so of course we're going to watch season two.

We want more content.

And like season two is giving drugs.

Oh.

Bright lights.

Well, because they conformed.

Like that's what happens.

Like drugs will get you.

Like they were like, everyone's doing it.

Let's do it.

I feel like they sucked.

They sucked you in with season one, being like, oh, this show is mild.

So you're like, okay, Babbafin.

Gateway drugs.

And then they're like, and now we're going to hit you with the drugs and you're addicted to Bibbafin for life.

Bibbaffin, Gateway Drugs, Season 1.

Yeah.

To get you hooked for season two.

Now you're a meth head.

Season two is like EDM,

bright lights.

I can't do that.

Screens changing quickly.

There's no no,

there's no, but here's the thing.

It's like they do that with the other, like, with the call the cartoons and stuff, right?

So like, what the fuck is it about Miss Rachel that my child, it's like, there's crack in her voice.

My child is so excited, so ecstatic, so happy, like, so into it.

The only possible logical reason I could think of is because it's a person talking directly to camera.

Yeah.

So that she, I think she thinks that she's like actually kind of there or something.

but like she likes Miss Rachel more than like Bluey.

I mean, she's only seven months old, but like she fucking, she fucks with Miss Rachel.

Yeah, the kids do love Miss Rachel.

I feel like it feels like kind of like a family member being on FaceTime, but it's like also bigger.

And she does talk like directly to them using like that sing-songy voice that's attractive for children, but like for all the good reasons.

They like it for all the good reasons.

Yes.

I don't feel like Miss Rachel is a drug pusher.

No, she's not.

She doesn't, she's, she's not a drug pusher.

She is not a drug pusher.

That's been always like a good thing about Bluey is that it's very slow-paced.

It's not razzle-dazzle.

Like it's not the most interesting thing to look at.

And now they're toying with people's emotions now.

Well, it's like,

I mean, you become so much more critical as a parent.

Like you don't realize like how much these shows are like.

made by adults till you're an adult watching it, you know?

And like you're getting like emotional.

And I even am just like overly critical.

Like when Bluey like does something, I'm like, is that like okay?

Like, is that like teaching her like the right thing?

Like psychopaths.

Sometimes, no, I totally agree.

I feel like sometimes Bluey's always complaining like about waking up and eating healthy.

I'm like, can you shut the fuck up and pretend like these things are good?

Like seriously, stop.

You're setting a bad example.

Like, no.

Yeah, like, that's what I'm saying.

Like, you've been praying that a meeberry was a healthy, non-fun snack until you fucking said so.

Exactly.

And he's like praying.

He's like, mom, mom, mom.

And then he's like, Blue, you can't do that.

Yes, I can.

And I'm like, whoa, Blueie, like, listen to your mom.

Like, you're bad behavior.

And also by the end of the episode, like, Bluey usually falls in line but like we don't watch the whole episode so we're just like midway where like bluey's kind of like an independent a blueberry hater blueberry hater like waking up stinks going like to school stinks like uh uh okay yeah like Bluey, like that's our job.

Tune into the toast.

We'll complain five days a week.

But like that, you're like, you're setting a good example.

I totally role model.

And so like I become overly critical.

So I don't think that this episode was necessarily like one of those situations of like setting a bad example, like teaching kids something.

I think it more so is like one of those examples of this was made by adults to pull at adults' heartstrings.

And like the kids probably don't know as much of what's going on.

But I did see a guy on TikTok being like, we were so excited because like we're moving and then Bluey's moving at the same time that we're moving.

So it was like all great.

Like, you know, teach our kids about moving and get them excited to move and have them help.

And then he was like, and then it just went downhill and we're all crying.

Yeah.

But I also, I want to say, like, I think for older kids, like, they feel that way about like healthy food food and waking up and going to school and so then they bluey like echoes what they already feel but then they see how bluey overcomes and how mom is right and they watch the whole episode because like they're older.

And so for them, yes, I'm just saying like at this age I'm like, can you cool it with the complaining?

Like he didn't know.

He didn't know.

He wrong the attitude.

So

that

is something.

Also, I've been like thinking recently, it's like, especially with quiet on set, it's like, I feel like these kids programmers like and these studios, it's like, does anybody give a damn about the kids watching?

Like, what are we creating this content for?

Like, is it really just for money?

In which case, like, you're going to make it addicting and you're going to be the one that the kid wants to watch the most.

And like, but does anyone care about like the kids, what's best for them?

That's why like, A, like, Miss Rachel cares.

Agreed.

And B, it's, I was thinking the same thing the other day.

I'm just like, who like grows up as an adult and is just like, and I'm not saying it in a bad way.

Like, I just genuinely like want to know their intentions.

Like, who's going to be like, I'm I'm going to make a kids' show?

Like, I have these ideas.

Like, like the creative process of

a kids' show, I have these ideas and it's going to be really great for the kids watching.

Like, and that's going to be our number one mission-driving statement, not like profit, not hours watched.

Like, this is going to be what's best for their development.

I think zero,

especially because they're all made by like larger studios who do care about like hours watched and profits.

And like, oh, oh, for some reason, the kids' department is like a non-profit.

I don't fucking think so.

But I agree.

It's mama tings, you know?

You'll know what you'll get it when you get it.

Yeah, I never thought about all of these things before, but then you're forced to.

So today's episode is incredibly long, and we need to get these files across the country from the Midwest down south.

And I'm going to call it here.

The fifth story, like maybe it'll make tomorrow's top five, maybe it won't.

I feel like...

Tell me what it was.

It's a bit of content news.

Okay, well, now we're doing the fifth story if I tell you what it is.

Well, I just want to know.

The Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders are getting a docuseries on Netflix, which is really like important to me.

Yeah, see, that's important to you.

And like, I'm okay without it.

So I'll leave it to you.

And now you guys know.

And by the way, now you guys know.

So we did do five stories.

It's like we can't help you.

We did do five stories.

And I'm telling you, as a Midwest toaster, fuck Dallas.

We're not talking about it.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, I'm coming in hot.

Depending on what goes down today, maybe I'll save it for our guest tomorrow.

Stasi Schroeder, who, you know, as we talk about Bluey, Bluey, she kind of has the inside track.

She was kind of like the biggest star on the bluey red carpet last weekend.

She went to the bluey red carpet?

Yeah, for this episode.

And we're going to get,

I'm going to get the inside scoop on that experience.

Please do.

Please do.

Because I am a bluey lover.

I'm a bluey lover.

What's Olive's number one?

Miss Rachel?

Miss Rachel, for sure.

What's number two?

Bluey.

Bluey.

And number three is real housewives.

I love that I'm not kidding.

She loves Bravo.

And does she read Camper and Claude?

Does she actually read the Counselor?

Yes, but number three before Camper and the Counselor is the toast.

She lights up when you guys are on the TV because, like, I listen to you guys every single day while I was pregnant.

When you guys come on the TV, she knows your voices.

Like, you guys are like Miss Rachel to her.

Like, she thinks you're talking to her.

My friend Mary Warden said the same thing when she gave birth.

I know.

Like, she was like, I know, you're not my mama.

She's like,

fuck her you.

Yeah, no, she loves Jackson Claude.

She loves Camper and the Counselor.

Not as much when she was little.

She was kind of like, I just go to bed and I feel, I get into bed and I feel sad.

I climb into bed and I start feeling sad.

I climb into bed.

I start feeling sad.

And also at this age, at this grabby age, the paper, like I read it with Charlie, but I kind of have to like set it up so that he can't grab at the paper because they like board books right now.

Of course, the Camper and the Counselor should be made into a board book.

And I will give it a little bit of it.

It really should.

It really should.

It really should because it would make my life a lot easier.

He loves it so much.

Not to hype myself up, but like he absolutely loves it.

What I love about, and now that we're talking about kids' content, about Camper and Counselor is I feel like the animations are so bright that they actually can compete with TV.

Other books are more like abstract, like the giving tree, lovely story.

Who wants to look at that?

No, I know.

Some of these books are just, I can't.

Like,

they're children's books because, like, Camper and the Counselor is like, it needs to just be the first of many because some of these books fucking suck.

And like, illustrations aside, like, can you at least fucking rhyme?

Can you at least fucking rhyme, especially for

a good time?

I feel like, you know, who really phones it in?

Who?

Jimmy Fallon?

Oh, no, I had never read his.

Oh, here, I'll recite it to you.

Ready?

The book is called Dada.

Dadda Moo.

Dada Meow.

Dada Ram.

That's the whole book.

That's the book.

Jackie.

Wow.

Wow.

Expose incoming.

Oh, my God.

No, like, literally talk about a cash grab.

Anyway, sorry.

They're like, I'm coming for you, Jimmy Fallon.

No, there's nothing more infuriating than a bad children's book.

And I was buying,

I bought some Mickey books because like Howard likes Mickey.

So like, let's get some books.

And like, I'm sorry, but like do better.

No rhyming.

The stories are so lackluster.

I want a bussing rhyming Mickey book.

Make it happen.

Bussing rhyming

Mickey book.

They don't make it happen because they want the kids to watch on TV.

What's one book sale going to do for them?

What's one book sale going to do?

It's not regenerative income.

True.

True, but it's all a part of the Mickey cult, you know?

Like, it has a part.

Like, it does.

It's an important part to play.

We all play a part in the, we all play a part, but I'm telling you, if you don't have that dadad book, that, like, your first word will be dada,

which, first of all, is so fucking rude.

Well, Lauren Elizabeth should write mama, mama, moo, mama, meow.

I mean, he already did.

Mama, moo, mama, meow, but you think anyone bought me that book?

No, they bought dada.

So rude.

Anyway.

Can I just say like one more mama frustration

that I always mean to say on the show because I think it's like so funny and so real.

The wheels on the bus.

So there are a couple different versions of the wheels on the bus, but like a lot of them end with like the mama's on the bus say sh, shh, shh, and then the daddy's on the bus say, I love you.

That's important.

So the mamas say shh to the baby crying and the daddy say, I love you.

And I just want to say, like, first of all, are the dads even on the bus?

First of all,

are the dads in the room with us?

No, no.

And that the mamas would say, and say there is a baby crying and mom and dad are both there.

Like, it's not mom saying, shh, and daddy saying, I love you.

Like, it's just not.

No, it's not.

It's literally, I know you don't have TikTok, but one of my TikToks is I have a list on my phone of all the fucked up children's song.

All of them.

Like, that song is so great until you get there.

Until that.

There's a version that I do like that I think that Miss Rachel switches it.

So there's the mommy on the bus says, I love you.

I love you.

I love you.

The daddy says, the daddy on the bus says, I love you too.

All through the time.

That's cute.

Like, together, we both love you.

Not one of us is being like, shh, rude.

Yeah, because I'm like, oh, of course, the dad's saying, I love you.

And mom's doing like the taking care of you.

Naggy bitch.

Yeah, exactly.

Naggy bitch mom.

I always say the mama on the bus says, kiss, kiss, kiss, because I always like kiss, you know?

Oh, that's good.

I improv the wheels on the bus actually, because it's like one of her favorites.

So, like, there are so many different people.

Like, sometimes you're on the bus, like Jackie's on the bus saying, toast, toast, toast, toast, toast.

Like, she doesn't know what I'm fucking saying.

So, I just have fun with this.

And then, also,

also, like, every single lullaby is about monkeys, they're falling off the bed.

The ducks are being left behind by their mama.

There were three ducks.

Now there's one.

There's the, oh,

we were in bed.

We were all feeling scared.

So we climb into bed.

There's the bassinet falling.

The rockabye baby.

The rockabye baby.

Like, if you listen, the oh, see the bunnies sleeping.

See the bunnies sleeping?

They're so still.

Are they ill?

Wake up soon.

Hop, little bunnies, hop, hop, hop.

Wake up soon.

Like, everyone's always fucking dying.

And also, even you are my sunshine.

Like, the second part that gets kind of left behind is like, um, you are my sunshine.

Lily sunshine.

You make me happy when skies are gray.

And let me know, dear, how much I love you.

Because I take my sunshine away.

As I was, oh, frick.

oh wait oh um

it's like you know oh my god

oh my god I literally sing this all the time

wait what is it I'm not gonna go

it's um oh the other night dear as I lay sleeping I dreamed I held you in my arms when I awoke dear I was mistaken so I hung my head and cried

You're lying.

I'm not lying.

Like, what?

This is what I was saying about the fucking kids' TV shows.

Who the fuck is doing all this stuff?

Like, what is going on?

These people are sick.

You know what?

I feel

inspired to have this conversation with you because I feel like we started TNN and you were one of our first podcasts because it's like we wanted to give people like premium content around the clock.

And now I feel motivated.

We have to start CNN, Children's News Network.

And we need to be creating like positive content that's just like, it's literally be a non-profit because I don't care what we make, even though we'll make billions because my parents will love us.

Even though like I do need need income.

No, no, the thing is, because it's like, it will pay for itself, but our initial mission, and there's only one mission, and it's just to like create positive, uplifting, enriching, stimulating content for the children.

That's these people are sick.

These people are sick and twisted, and I am done with it.

Literally, it's disgusting.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

I'm dying.

We have to end this episode so that I could get it up.

I know.

People need to hear this, Lauren.

Like, this is the first time.

They do.

They do.

And I could talk about this for so long.

I had to pee so fucking bad.

So,

my pelvic floor cannot hold this VN any longer.

I'm so grateful to be a toaster.

I love you so much.

Thank you so much for being in Yara Network.

I will be able to do that.

Where can everyone follow you and all your mama?

Lauren Elizabeth.

Lauren Elizabeth on everything.

Mama content, it girl content.

Yeah, I just called myself an it girl because it's just a fucking phrase, okay?

It's just like an aesthetic.

I don't actually, I hate myself.

Everyone knows that.

By the way, do you remember that when you were starting your podcast and we were trying to come up with names for it?

Like, I wanted you to call it the It Girl Podcast.

Yeah, uh, Tigs Who.

Like, oh my God, Tigs.

Oh, I didn't even know that at the time.

No, but I just like see you as an it girl.

And now you're an mama, it girl.

And so you're

an it mom, and I'm, you're allowed to say it because I'm saying it.

Okay, thank you.

It's more just an aesthetic.

Anyway, pelvic floor, gotta go.

Love you guys.

Bye.

Bye.