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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.

I hope everybody's having a gorgeous, beautiful, stunning, and smart day thus far.

I know I am because I'm just sitting here in an itchy sweater with my jacks.

I hope that everyone is having a great day.

You can all pat yourselves on the back because we made it through Monday and we made it through April Fool's Day unscathed.

We did.

I hope no one got you in such a way that you couldn't recover from.

Like you recovered so quickly.

I mean, I did like dream of Keenan and Minka Kelly dating and what joy that would bring Keenan and that made me happy.

And then knowing that wasn't true, that was hard for me to come down from.

But maybe what we can do now on April 2nd is manifest these things.

A lot of brands like do April Fool's jokes and then they realize that's actually what the people want.

and it kind of put things into motion.

So maybe we could put this into motion.

And the clip went a little viral.

Maybe Keenan will see it.

Maybe Minka will.

Maybe Minka will.

Maybe the Uber driver will.

Well, we know he will because he and I are super, super tight.

Yeah, he's a, he is a toaster now.

We're just connected through like this time space continuum.

Like it will always come back to me, for him, and for me, it will always come back to him.

Yeah.

So we've got a great show today.

It's Tuesday.

We can relax, you you know, let our guards down.

Yesterday, I feel like we were very defensive.

Yeah, and we didn't know what was what, what news was true.

It was kind of with Tori spellings getting divorced.

Still don't care.

Still don't care.

It was just kind of like an upsetting sort of way to be, be very, you know,

unstable.

Today we're back to your stable garlies.

Yeah, even though I had fun in general in the day yesterday, I saw other people were tagging us in pranks that they played on their friends.

And it was just a jolly good time, honestly.

Like, I'm glad it's only one day, and I'm glad that it's over, but I feel like we made the most of it.

Yeah, yeah, no, I'm glad it's over for sure.

But I had a good time, it was all good fun.

We recorded the Redheads yesterday, and that was no joke.

Oh, no, it was so good.

You guys have to read this month's book, Bye Baby.

It weirdly, I wasn't expecting this, was polarizing for the group.

Oh, no.

A line was drawn in the sand.

Oh, no.

Team A versus team B.

Who do you think was aligned?

Margo.

and, oh, this is hard.

Dana.

No, they're never aligned.

Okay, Margo and you?

No.

Margo and Rhit.

Yeah.

How did I know?

Me and Dana.

It was giving Clara and the sun energy.

If you know, you know.

And if you don't know, it's never too late.

No, and now's the time, you guys.

It's the year of the Redheads, Redheads generation.

Are you saying there's a Redheads, there's going to be a Redheads Renaissance?

There's been a Redheads Renaissance.

There's a Redheads Revolution.

And come to the Redheads party at the Redheads Clubhouse.

You're the special guest of

the one and only Redheads mouse.

What do you say?

Oh,

Mickey.

Miska, Mouska.

Miska, Mouska, Mickey, Mouse.

Speaking of, something disturbing happened to me yesterday and I don't know what to make of it.

You were disturbed?

I was disturbed.

Tell us.

I saw a mouse in my backyard.

Question mark?

Question mark.

That's not happened to me yet.

What does that mean for my homestead?

Can anyone shed light on this?

I know, like...

I've never seen a mouse outside.

That's so crazy.

That's seeing, like, you know, a dog walk on its hind legs or seeing a teacher out of school.

No, he was seriously in my backyard.

Like, I'm surprised he wasn't on the swing set.

Where?

Just on the grass a few steps away from when I emerged.

Oh, oh, I feel like that means the call was coming from inside the house.

Like, his family is inside.

Why was he so close to your house?

Or unless you stopped an infestation in its tracks.

Like, unless he was on his way to set up camp in your gutters.

I have been.

Is that where they live?

Gutters?

I don't know.

I'm just making it.

We're getting new gutters.

I don't know anything about houses.

Like,

I don't know either.

So, without scaring me too much, like, is this just, you know, irrelevant to what's going on inside the home?

Yeah, I mean, like, mouses live outside.

I have like that opossum that rolls through.

Do mice live outside?

That's the question.

I've never seen one outside because anytime.

I don't know if you can see them take shelter.

I mean, I see them outside in New York, but that's like if you saw a mouse in your trash, I would say, okay, let's get your bins washed, but I wouldn't be concerned.

Chilling in the grass, like, I don't know.

I don't know.

It's weird.

It was so weird.

I don't want to freak out, but I need to know if I should freak out.

we literally just had the pest guy here i feel like no shave i feel like he brought him for sure and it's like he's a new pest guy like maybe he wants to make himself necessary yeah dropped one on my backyard but still so that i have to call him again

Wow, that's like kind of crazy.

I came up with you just telling me this now.

I feel like this is something you would have called me about.

I know.

I wasn't really by my phone when it happened.

And I was just trying.

Really, I'm trying not to overreact, but I need to know like what this means for me.

And did you freeze in that moment?

It's so interesting to experience something like that and then learn something about yourself.

Like, how do you react?

Some people freeze.

Some people run.

Some people scream.

Jackie, I was paralyzed with fear.

I could not move.

I couldn't speak.

Like that.

The good news is it's on camera.

I can send you a video.

Obsessed.

I just was like, whoo.

Wait, that's so kind of light and airy of you.

And then he scurried along.

Bruno was out doing business.

Of course he was.

He was a businessman.

He actually is thinking about going to business school.

He said, Bruno, you know everything you need to know.

I hear Harvard has a good program.

I hear they don't.

Wait, also?

Now, I'm very against it, but, you know, this situation that we're talking about makes the case for having a cat.

But let me just say something.

Everyone says that, like, cats and mice.

Why the fuck do I want to cuddle with an animal that just ate a dirty ass mouse?

Like, that mouse is in the cat's belly.

I'm good.

To me, they're both gross.

Interesting.

Okay, I'm not getting a cat.

Like, unless the cat can live outside, like, no.

Well, so that's what Brian has.

That's why when I go to Brian's house, like, I literally can't go near his barn because that's where the cats live and the cats eat the mice.

And it's like a good thing.

They came with the house when Brian bought them.

They just like live outside.

Okay, I'm not getting a cat.

But the good news is, is that there is a cat that wanders around my home.

I told you.

Bruno invites him over late at night.

They just kind of like go crazy.

But no, there is a cat.

Like, I see it on my cameras all the time.

So maybe like he'll take care of business.

Maybe the cat got killed and the mice problem that he's been keeping at bay.

Like have you seen the cat in a while?

Maybe this is how we find out the neighborhood cat was run over by a car.

I saw a roadkill.

It was kind of far away.

Like I just saw a roadkill like one time.

Like how far from your house?

No, it was totally the cat.

Like in thinking about what it looked like.

Okay, so here's what you have to do.

You and some of your neighbors have to go to a shelter and save a cat.

And you need to build it like a house outside and leave it food every couple of days.

Cats don't need a lot.

And he becomes a new neighborhood cat.

We need a neighborhood cat.

Good thing I'm so close with my neighbors that I'm always talking about.

Oh God, first Mary Orton and now the neighbors.

Like Jackie just loves to rub in my face how like many strides she's making socially.

You know, when you first moved down there, you were very much like in your newborn and then pregnant era.

And I feel like you didn't try hard to make friends.

And I loved it because you needed me.

You begged me to come down.

I was kind of the center of your universe.

And now you're in that post.

Now you're in that like postpartum era where your kids are fine and like you can do your hair and like you're out going to dinners and lunch and you know you don't need me anymore and you know what fuck you too okay

that's your perspective by the way that's reality did i not just slay the house down on exactly what has it got on no you've misrepresented because of course turning is always my number one choice

means nothing still always begging you to come literally was on face time with you i think i called you what six times last night Yeah, you were kind of being clingy last night.

What was going on?

Is everything okay at home?

My neighbors were out.

No, I missed my girl and we had a lot to talk about.

We had so much to talk about.

We were being so funny on FaceTime yesterday.

I don't want to rub it in with you guys because some things that we say on FaceTime, we then regurgitate here to tell you guys.

But some of them are just like too.

What were we talking about?

Give me a clue.

I can't.

I don't know.

I don't remember.

I just remember it was funny.

Like, Ben was even laughing overhearing us.

Oh, yeah.

I remember making you laugh.

Yeah.

Your boy.

Your boy?

Your boy Marsh.

Yeah, exactly.

So, yeah, that's just like kind of private things.

We're kind of really private people, super, super private, super private, super.

And other than that, what was I doing today?

Oh my god, I was kind of being a freak today.

You know who I'm obsessed with?

Huberman,

of course, and Claudia Ashre.

Yes, you're not gonna guess.

You might guess.

Okay, Tinks.

Yes, okay.

I need you to think younger, like way younger.

Sabrina Carpenter.

Way younger.

Oh my god.

Young Sheldon?

Way younger.

Harry?

So close.

Who is Harry in my mind?

Like Harry's doppelganger twin?

Come on, you know.

Gates?

Yes.

Oh, you're on the Gates train.

I was stalking Gates Scott Chunk this morning, Raven from The Bachelor and her husband.

Like, their kid is so cute.

And I don't know why he just like reminds me of Harry because they were born on like the same day or whatever.

And Jackie's like, both her kids were born like the same day as Raven's kids.

I don't know.

I just like, I think of Raven's kids as like cousins of your kids, like for real.

And I was stalking Gates this weekend because Raven posted a bunch of stuff.

They went to Arkansas and Gates was in Arkansas for Easter and like he went fishing.

He fell asleep in church.

Like it was the cutest thing.

I just did fall asleep at church.

I'm obsessed with this kid.

Like he's one of the cutest and he just looks like the sweetest boy.

It's so true.

Gates is a great follow.

Gates is a great follow.

And yeah, he's a very impressive little boy.

Yeah, and I feel like he does like big boy things.

I feel like we often compare him and like, you know, his progress and his growth and everything to Harry.

And like, I'm sorry, Gates is like so, like, Gates is so ahead of his time.

Gates is gonna skip a grade.

No, yeah.

Gates is like very advanced.

Like, he was walking at six months and it's like, Harry, get up.

Get up.

Look at Gates.

You know what?

Harry actually had a play date with Gates.

Harry had an influencer play date when we were in Dallas.

I know.

Did you take any pictures of Gates and Harry?

Did I see them?

Maybe I did.

Oh, yeah.

I saw Raven's backyard.

You said she's making like a commune in her backyard or something.

No, I didn't say that.

So what's the word?

Montessori.

Oh.

I feel like I'm always hearing parents say like Montessori with that stupid stool.

They're like, it's the Montessori method.

What the fuck is Montessori?

Because Montessori is a biblical word, right?

Is it?

I thought it's French.

Oh, I don't know that.

It's so giving.

It's giving Lisse to me.

Oh, my God.

To me, it's giving like Genesis, Exodus,

whatever the other

is called.

Montessori.

Deuteronomy and Montessori.

And By the way, thank you.

It's giving Deuteronomy.

I have to look up what the fuck is Montessori.

I'll tell you, I'll explain it as best as I can, even though it evades me a little bit.

It's like kids playing with toys

and things that are useful in real life.

So they wouldn't just play with like blobs and stuff that's not real.

They'll use like a kid-sized sink and a

kid-sized like cooking stuff.

So they're learning real skills through their toys and not just like fucking around.

Montessori is an educational philosophy and practice that fosters rigorous self-motivated growth for children and adolescents in all areas of their development with the goal of nurturing each child's natural desire for knowledge understanding and respect okay that didn't tell me anything i think the way i explained it pretty much sums it up they're learning like real skills through their toys

montessori classroom places an emphasis on hands-on training and developing real world skills i need to know the root of the word like root i'm voting french

of word like give me a a merriam-webster like

etymology of montessori thank you

etymology okay nvm go back etymology is deuteronomy

montessori is latin

classic like aren't all words

so true cop out

Give me a word.

Any word and I show you it is Greek.

Montessori comes from the Greek word soricia, which means sink.

Sink.

Okay, I didn't find it, but like, I'm glad we, I'm glad we finally spoke about Montessori because, like, and also like Montezuma, Montefiore, like, I just feel confused.

Yeah, and I feel like a lot of parents, like, feel pressured by Montessori.

It's like, are you doing Montessori?

Right.

I'm not doing Montessori.

I just want to say, like, sure, I have some toys that would fall under the Montessori umbrella.

Great, but I also have some like blob things and like kid tings.

Like, mindlessness.

Montessori is also when like everything in the room or at least the playroom is like kid-sized.

You know, like a kid-sized house, a kid-sized sink, a kid-sized kitchen, a kid-sized.

A kid-sized table and chairs.

So like they are kind of feel like grown, you know, when everything's to scale.

It's important for kids to know that they're kids.

Like this is not, like, I don't like that.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just like the flavor of the day right now.

Yeah.

I see it everywhere.

I think it definitely has merits, like all things, but.

It can't put me in a box.

And they try.

They constantly try to put Jackson in a box and she says, no, who put me in this box?

They would love to put me in a box, Claude.

And they can't.

Your hair's looking so good recently.

Thank you because through a myriad of things, like I learned how to do it.

You helped me a couple of my fave influencer tutorials.

And you're using the Dyson Air Wrap.

Is that correct?

I'm using the Dyson Air Wrap.

Love, love.

I got my hair cut in Dallas.

Love, love, love.

She's a new woman.

She's a new woman.

You want to know what's crazy though?

And I don't mean to brag.

I don't.

But I guess this is like a little bit of a humble brag.

Okay.

I noticed the last like week or two, like I'm getting regrowth strands, which are the worst.

It's worse than hair falling out because they're just like this long and they don't fit into a pony and like they're always like poking out.

However, like I barely noticed the fallout stage, the hair fallout.

Oh, there was like one week where I was like, oh, I think my hair is starting to fall out.

And, but you know, there are seasons where you shed, even if you're not postpartum.

Yeah.

And it wasn't really bad or anything.

And I kind of forgot about it.

And all of a sudden, I've got regrowth.

Oh my God, you just reminded me of my dream, which is beyond uninteresting to hear, but I'm going to share it anyway.

Because, like, the entire, the entire night I was sleeping, I was in my dream the entire night waiting for my water to break.

Is that crazy?

And it's unbreaking.

And then I woke up and peed.

So, like, maybe that was it.

It's giving that was it.

Yeah.

I think it's just kind of like the extent of the meaning, you know?

Yeah.

Exciting, though.

Yeah, very.

So we've got a great show.

We do.

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Describe them in three words.

Had to trim.

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Yep, we were abundant.

Maybe the sixth will be for tomorrow.

It wasn't, you know, urgent.

Oh, I absolutely love that.

Okay, so, I mean, yeah?

Yeah, without further ado, did it do, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know.

And Jax, I just want to remind you that later on in the show, you have something you need to tell the people.

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I'm set up up on my iPad.

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You're welcome.

Our first story, Sabrina Carpenter is a current face of skims.

She,

what?

I just got a People Magazine note.

Elon Musk and Amber Heard tie the knot in private ceremony.

You're trying to get me back.

Fuck!

Do you know how long I planned that for?

I feel sad.

Also, like, you went outside the bounds of April Fools.

That's a cardinal sin.

Okay, get over it.

Like, how did you know I was lying?

I feel like I did such a good job.

I feel like I did such a good job acting.

Like, no, literally, I was on to you from the moment you said it.

And then I was like, let me wait and see what she's going to say.

And I knew it was like meant for me.

Oh, you're a bitch.

You're a dumb fucking bitch.

I hate hate you.

I know you are, but what am I?

A dumb fucking bitch.

I'm sorry, turdy.

Fuck, I really wanted to get you back.

Now I'm like embarrassed.

Can we get that out?

What's more embarrassing than like trying to trick someone and like they literally like clocked you from the second you started.

You're humiliated.

I am embarrassed, Otto.

I'm humiliated.

I'm so, like, I wish I could take away your shame, blame, and your ignorful game.

Shame, blame, and the pranking game.

Do I have to be on guard for thee now all the time?

No, I'm done.

I'm done.

I'm done.

I'll stand on guard for thee.

Yeah, I'm done.

Wrap it up.

It's like the equivalent of like getting stuffed in basketball.

Yeah, like blocked, like literally.

I'm humiliated.

Oh, by the way, I can't.

I don't want to talk about it.

Like, I don't want to talk about it.

No, the thing is, you weren't wrong.

I feel like sometimes when we say stuff, like people don't understand what we're saying.

Like, when we said it.

Are you guys ready?

Ready?

No, I need to talk about it.

I yesterday said that my, I was going to, I like, I was doing decently well in my bracket, but I'm not going to win because I had Iowa State winning and they're out.

And people are like, they're not out.

The women's is in.

Did you guys think I had women in my bracket?

Like, do you know me?

No, I did the men's bracket.

I was like, why you confused them is because you said, because Caitlin's on Iowa, goes to Iowa, so I've rooted for Iowa.

And if you kept listening, we were talking about the Iowa school juju in general.

Like, I wasn't going to be able to do that.

So, I forgot the men's because things, big things are happening at Iowa.

I literally didn't even know that you March Madness included women, okay?

It does.

No, by the way, it does.

It does.

There was a game last night.

It was LSU versus Iowa.

It was like a big deal.

It does, but like, I did the women's.

Do they have their own bracket?

The women's bracket?

I don't know.

Yeah, I think they have like separate

tournaments.

No, they have their separate tournaments.

And I guess you can do a bracket.

Like, did you guys seriously think like I was doing that?

Have you ever listened to an episode of this show?

I'm sorry.

Like, that was not on you.

And I feel the need to like clarify like for the people who were so utterly confused.

Being like, Claudia, they're still in.

Okay.

And.

That was like really infuriating.

No, I know.

Sometimes like we're so deeply misunderstood.

Like I want to rage in the comments, like responding to everyone, but like I'm more mysterious than that.

No, that's like yesterday, my friend Mary Orton, I saw in her story, like someone messaged her after the toast being like, did you do an April Fool's pregnancy prank?

It's like, were you not listening?

Oh my God.

Reading comprehension is not taught well enough in this school system.

Comprehension.

I'm done.

No, seriously, listening comprehension comes from reading comprehension.

Like that's where you learn how to internalize words.

And we need to stop with the algebra.

We need to stop with the history.

We need to focus on reading comprehension because you guys, well, not you guys, but like people, don't fucking listen.

It drives me nuts.

Like people will DM me.

Like, I can't believe you said, literally, I think I was having, I gave like a, one of my usual spiels on Ozempic and somebody, and I, I was talking about the eating disorder community.

And somebody was like, I can't believe you said people with eating disorders need to stop listening to the toast or something.

And I'm like, are you?

dumb you don't have an eating disorder you have a hearing disorder because you didn't fucking listen to me it bothers me so much.

Like, listen.

And then if you want to have a problem with what I say, if you actually understand what I said, then you're allowed.

But if you start like rage commenting, like, and you didn't even listen, like, you're so dumb.

Or you misunderstood.

Yeah.

Pay attention, please.

Please.

Now we can get to the first story, which is very exciting, interesting news.

It is.

Sabrina Carpenter is in the new Skims campaign.

So not only have the pictures dropped from the campaign, but also an interview with W magazine, Sabrina Carpenter, wants to shock you.

So this is just newsworthy, you know, for a couple reasons.

One, like, she looks great.

Two, big,

like big moves for Sabrina and Skims.

Like, great.

The elephant in the room is Taylor Swift connection.

And now this is like the third time where Skims has done like a major campaign with somebody really connected to Taylor.

First, it was Lana Del Rey, then it was Brittany Mahomes.

And I feel like we could have explained that away.

Like with Brittany Mahomes, we were like, this was probably shot a year ago and she had just become friends with Taylor.

It was just like an unfortunate coincidence.

Like it was really, I think, could be explained.

This Sabrina Carpenter thing, like Sabrina Carpenter is at the level now where she can be eligible for a spritz, a spritz, a skims campaign because of the errors tour.

So like they saw her on the heirostor and decided to poach her.

Like it's...

This one is, we can't explain this one away.

Now we need to say like what is going on.

But it might just be honestly that like Taylor is so

in control of the culture and the zeitgeist and like whoever she's with becomes hot like that it's just sort of a

necessary cycle it's like kim piggy piggybacking off like taylor's setting the trends and kim chooses the trends hopping on the trends yeah it's just crazy because like kim used to set the trends well she's still setting the trends by like choosing

And making like it's really they're both kind of working hand in hand, though they don't even know it.

It's just, it's too much.

So how do you think it played out?

Like,

well, also, there are, you know, Taylor, I mean, Taylor, Kim is loosely connected to Odell Beckham.

Like, I believe that they're dating.

And there was like a sports report that Odell Beckham really wants to be traded to the Chiefs.

That's April Fool's for sure.

No, no, that was like weeks ago.

I mean, if you're a football player and he's like really good at what he wants, it's the best way to do it.

You wouldn't want to.

And if you had a choice of where to go, you would request.

You wouldn't be like worried about your rumored girlfriend's feud.

No, no, that's weird.

No, you wouldn't.

Weird.

Weird.

Couldn't be me.

How do I think this played out?

Like, I do feel in some sense, like, Kim is a little bit

distanced from like the everyday happenings.

I don't think Kim is at the point now.

I think for a while it was where like Kim was hand selecting every single Skims ambassador, but they have so many campaigns now and so many different collections that I don't think Kim is, you know, sitting in the meetings being like, let's do this person.

And I think that like, that was probably intentional.

I think she wants Skims to like stand on its own as a company.

And I feel like now it kind of has like, I think of Skims as like a real business, not just like an influencer project from Kim, you know?

Yes.

And so maybe this is, you know, a strategy in that, you know, where we're, we're hopefully not thinking of Kim.

When we're thinking of Skims, you know?

Well, I just feel like, again, for Kim, it's like, yeah, why wouldn't I have this girl that's attached to Taylor?

I think Kim has moved on from the drama.

It's really about.

It's actually true.

Kim said that on Watch Rapids Live.

And he was like, is that still a thing?

She's like, no, I'm over it.

And it's like, well, it's a good thing you're over it.

You weren't the one we were worried about.

Yeah.

And we've said that over and over again.

So it's not weird that Kim wanted Sabrina.

That's actually, by the way, you just cracked it.

That's what it is.

Like, Kim is so wanting to move on from this Taylor thing.

She said it years ago.

And.

So doing things like this is like, look, I've moved on.

And the Watch Rapids Live commentary, like even sometimes Kim is playing in the the background of um

Taylor is playing in the background of Kim's Instagram stories when she's on set and they're playing music like she has made it very clear like this is not a thing Penelope was spotted wearing Aristotle merch like but it's not Kim's thing to move on from like Taylor was the you know the

the injured party yes she's never moving on yep never she was just talking about them in her time magazine article yep and Kim's just like I'm over it I'm over it it's like girl look up yeah so then my question is so Skims reaches out to Sabrina.

I'm sure Sabrina ran it by Taylor.

Well, Sabrina's not dumb.

Yeah.

And she's always like giving credit to Taylor.

Yes.

And I have to assume that Taylor said it was okay.

Like with Brittany Mahomes, I really believed that it was pri, it predated their friendship.

No, I believe Brittany ran it by Taylor too.

I believe that her and her and Brittany weren't even friends when the photo shoot was set.

It was like a holiday campaign.

They book holiday in the beginning of the year.

Like big brands, like they have their photo shoots scheduled out all year long.

Okay.

I'll accept that.

Not this, though.

With this one, no.

Because they're obviously capitalizing on the Aristotle momentum.

Yeah.

I assume she got it.

I mean, in the W magazine article, it's like every other word is either about Kim or every other word is about Taylor, the Aristotle.

Like, it's crazy.

Yeah.

And I feel like this is the first one.

Even though for us, it's like the third that sort of

blends the two for the people.

Like people are shocked over this considering.

Like, I don't know who else, aside from maybe Blake Lively, that could have a skims campaign, and it would be like so close to Taylor.

That's different.

That's different because Blake Lively is like an OG.

Like, she has been there through ups, downs, through like 2010.

Sabrina is a relatively new addition.

This would be, like, Blake Lively would be the same as like Abigail with the red hair doing skims.

No, no, no, no.

Okay, Cara Delavine.

That's a good example.

They've been like, oh, yeah, she's in the box.

Yeah, it's the same thing.

Yeah.

Sabrina is, would be like, or or Blake Livey would be like Hame doing a Skims campaign, yeah, or like

yes, a similar to Sabrina.

But Lana Del Rey was her date to the Grammys, like that's really close, Jackie.

And she was at the game,

yeah.

By the way, Taylor's okay with it, yeah, yeah.

Like, that's it's just clear, like, honestly, it couldn't get closer to Taylor unless it was Taylor for Skims, which would literally never happen.

Taylor would never be a lingerie, it could be a conservative Queen.

No.

Tortured Poets.

Okay, Tortured Poets.

They need to come out with a Skim Tortured Poets collab.

That's it.

That's how the story ends.

The thing is, Skims is like a billion dollar, like multi-billion dollar company, and I still don't think they could afford Taylor.

Like, Taylor has never been the face of anything.

Well, she was for Diet Coke, which is literally like a bunch of people.

Capital One.

Right.

Those are the types of brands.

Those are like

30 times the size of Skims.

Like, when you think about it, she's done ATT, Capital One, Diet Coke, literally the biggest brands in the entire world, not even just America.

I feel like that's a.

I'm just saying that would be a nice

story to end, but if there were ever a time, it's not now.

Taylor is literally like

on the it's not the time.

She's all the way up.

Her stock's never been higher.

I wouldn't say the same for Kim at the moment.

She's just kind of like

stagnant.

Yeah, but they come in waves.

I guess they know like people want them in like in doses.

Yes.

And we had like two years of crazy Kardashian

obsession.

Also, I don't think that if they ever were to end this feud, like it being Taylor for Skims, like that's too much for Kim.

Like that's Kim gets everything then.

It's like Taylor gets

poets for Skims.

No, it's still like that's the Skims win.

And like you said, Taylor's the injured party.

Oh my God.

I just saw like something move.

Okay, it's like a piece of dust.

I'm like, oh my God, there's a mouse in here.

You got me going crazy.

Yeah, it would be too much.

like it wouldn't be weighed evenly,

I think.

It's never happening.

No, like we can, we can dilly dally all day hypothesizing and fantasizing, but it's not happening.

But if Taylor like woke up one day, like and she had to, I don't know, maybe she's like

going through therapy and she has to release her old grudges if she wants to like move forward and break through, whatever.

And she has to move on with Kim.

Yeah.

The way that they would announce a reconciliation is Taylor for Skims.

I don't think so, like at all.

It would break the climate.

It would, but I don't think they would do it.

I don't think Taylor would do it.

Kim would do it in a second.

I also don't think that, like, let's say Taylor was going through therapy and needed to forgive her past, whatever.

I think she would make up with Kim in private.

And like, we would never know about it.

Like, I don't think she wants to give more air to this, you know?

Even though she talks about it a lot.

Yeah, she does.

I don't know.

I don't know either.

Like, some, and you know what?

I know what I like about Taylor.

Like, sometimes people in your life wrong you and like a therapist would tell you to let it go and sometimes you just can't and that's okay.

Yeah, but I feel like I feel like the times when I see that people have to let it go is on reality shows.

But that's because you're around the person all the time.

Like I wonder what a therapist thinks about you like being done with a person and just cutting them.

I think they're fine with that.

I don't think that's actually healthy.

I think to have like a negative person in your orbit, it ultimately harms you.

Therefore, you have to let it go if you're going to be around them.

Okay, Jackie Ashray, PhD.

Yeah, I saw that on Real House Eyes at Beverly Hills.

Like I went to the school school of Rehoboam.

Where I get all my mental health tips and Vanderbum rules.

Literally.

Okay, you ready for our next story?

I am.

Beyonce won a big award at the iHeart Radio Music Awards last night, which were last night.

She thanked her rock, Jay-Z, and their three beautiful children in her speech.

So, and a surprise to everyone, Beyonce attended the iHeart Radio Music Awards at the Dolby Theater in LA last night.

This is so crazy.

Yeah, but these are the things you do when you have a new album.

You play the game.

These are not the things you do in your Beyonce, but this is what Taylor and Beyonce like always do.

They go to things that they're too good for.

And they're obviously like prearranged so that, and that's why like Taylor and Beyonce are like the most awarded women of all time.

Cause like Taylor's over here at the People's Choice Awards, Beyonce's over here at the iHeart Radio Awards.

Awards that mean nothing, that have no value, that literally four people watch, but it's a part of like the game.

It's a part of the game.

It's a comfortable setting when you know that everyone there is just so happy for you to be there, that you're going to win, that you can sit wherever you want, that you'll get your picture taken, you'll wear it.

Like, it's just a press move.

It's more like you're not going to be able to

outside.

The people you're in competition with, like, aren't there?

Yeah.

It's like one big person goes to these awards.

Like, it's like they have a pre-arranged thing with all the publicists.

It's like, okay, Beyonce gets iHeart.

Taylor gets Billboard.

Well, it's not even guests.

It's like Beyonce will go to this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like, Beyonce and Taylor have never been at a crappy ass award show together.

Right, but that's because the next crappy one, like, Taylor will go to for tortured dead pets.

Yes, Yes, exactly.

Exactly.

And Beyoncé will be done with her promotional cycle like this where she's going so hard.

But like she needed to step out, Cowboy Carter.

And I love

folks.

She needed to be like in the new, you know, that's what you do.

Even though you're Beyoncé and you're Taylor, like you still got to do marketing.

Play the game.

Marketing.

Yeah.

Oh, and then also iHeartRadio is the game because it is the radio.

Radio.

That's like one you have to go kiss ass.

Like the iHeart Radio Awards like are literally viewed by 11 people, but it's put on by iHeart Radio and they're in charge of like DJ Radio and like getting your song played on the radio.

And that has a lot to do with going number one.

That has a lot to do with winning awards, real awards.

So you have to like kiss the ass of this moronic company.

It's a part of the game.

Now, I do love Beyonce Stepping Out.

I'm not upset at all because the vibes for this album press tour are very country, very stagecoach, obsessed.

Like when she was on the red carpet, she was doing finger guns.

She was like, I'm obsessed.

Yeah, really cute.

She said in her speech, she thanked her family.

She took a moment to shout out the innovators who paved the way for her illustrious career, including Stevie Wonder, who presented her with the trophy.

She said, thank you to Rosetta Tharp, Miss Tracy Chapman, Linda Martel, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Andre 3000, Tina Turner, Michael Jackson, and so many more who defied any label placed upon them.

Also,

wait, what was I going to say?

Crap.

It was a good point.

Were you stuck?

Yeah, like,

oh, I love Beyoncé with blonde hair.

like it's like one of my favorite looks.

However, somebody on Twitter pointed out that when she has blonde hair, she looks like Karen Huger.

And seriously, they're twins,

even though on their face, like Beyonce's face and Karen Huger's face could not be more different.

Something about the blonde hair, twins.

Yeah, I see it.

I love it.

You see it.

Yeah.

No, she looks great.

It was a great night.

She looks great.

Great night for music.

I didn't watch, but I assume it was.

I watched music.

You did?

April 4th.

That wasn't April 4th.

That was just classic Jackson Claude banter.

Low-key classic.

Now, I want to make a comment because you get a lot of backlash for always drinking your coffee out of a disposable cup.

And today you're drinking it Sustainable Queen reusable cup.

The glass and the ice are clanking so much, it's going to bother the fuck out of the podcasters.

Go back to killing the turtles tomorrow, please.

Happily, first of all.

Podcast audio, greater than important of all.

The turtles.

That's funny coming from you, Jacues,

because people have been saying that you're chewing on camera you're slurping on camera you're sneezing and they're saying nobody's accused me of sneezing stop lying bitch here this is what people said people said because i've been starting to drink iced coffee on the the podcast and they said it was really annoying them the slushing of my ice jackie i have not drank pod i have not drank podcast i have not drank iced coffee in weeks i just have my protein shake and you'll notice every time i take a sip i go like this

because people said my gulping was annoying them too.

So I'm listening and learning.

I thought I did a lot of comments about like your side of the noise.

I haven't seen one about mine.

No, no, so I'm fixing it.

I'm listening and learning.

And I'm telling you today, it's annoying as hell.

But I use these cups sometimes.

I've never heard that.

I literally hear it.

I hear it too.

It's a nice sound.

I don't think they're going to like it.

Sound off in the comments.

It's giving, I can hear the bells.

Don't you hear them chime.

My dream, like, especially when I was overweight, like my dream in this life was to play Tracy Turnblad in some sort of live action, whatever.

I wouldn't need to learn.

Like, I know everything.

Like, I've memorized Nikki Bloncy is a true hero of mine.

And the fact that I'm now ineligible for the role because I've lost weight, like, is, is definitely part of the reason I was hesitant to start the drug.

Would you gain weight for the role?

Let me tell you, I wouldn't gain weight for anything.

Like, I have been to the mountain and back.

I know how hard it is.

I I would never purposely gain weight.

Like, unless I was, of course, like having a child.

But you wouldn't, there's no role on this earth

that you would gain weight for.

No, like my health, what I've learned over the last, like, year or two, I guess it's been like two years now.

Um, my health is paramount.

And I wouldn't, you know, no matter how thirsty I am, I wouldn't give up, give that up for anything.

Beautiful.

For real.

And like, let's be real.

There's like one role you're eligible for as a bigger person.

There's a million roles they'll cast you in if you're skinny.

Sometimes I feel as though that's the prerequisite.

Yeah.

So for my career, it's better to be staying.

Well, you just said a mouthful there, sister.

Actually, I just saw this rant Busy Phillips went on.

And you know, I'm not a Busy Phillips girl.

It was the most amazing rant.

Someone brought up Ozempek at like this event she did, and she just went off.

And I loved it.

I forget like what the whole hypothesis of it was, but I just had myself like nodding.

I'm like, yes, Busy Phillips.

Interesting.

I want to see.

Oh, no, she was basically like, you know, the men in this industry take human growth homework.

And that's how they're always at 60, like so hot.

And everyone's like, wow, how are these men so hot?

And they keep getting roles like for superheroes.

And it's like, okay, now women are taking Ozempic to like stay thin and, you know.

keep jobs and everyone's coming at us for it.

Like leave us alone.

And she's like, and the world is just such a different place when you're skinny versus when you're fat.

People treat you differently.

You have different work opportunities.

Everything is just better for you when you're thinner.

And that's the world we live in.

So now there's something to help us with that.

And we're still getting yelled at for it.

It was really, I loved it.

That's That's nice.

Yeah.

Next story, someone else who has something to say.

Shakira has eight months later given her thoughts on the Barbie movie.

Shakira says her twin sons absolutely hated the Barbie movie.

So she told Allure in her April 2024 cover story that her sons absolutely hated the Barbie movie because they found it emasculating.

And she said that she

was 11 and nine.

And they know what emasculating is and feels like?

That's a good question.

Maybe they said it in their version, and she's summing it up.

Paraphrasing.

She said she agrees to a certain extent because she wants them to feel as empowered as she does.

She said, quote, I'm raising two boys.

I want them to feel powerful too while respecting women.

I like pop culture when it attempts to empower women without robbing men of their possibility to be men to also protect and provide.

She clarified that men and women complement each other by serving different purposes.

Quote, I believe in giving women all the tools and the trust that we can do it all without losing our essence, without losing our femininity.

I think that men have a purpose in society and women have another purpose as well.

We compliment each other and that compliment should not be lost.

Okay, like I actually like agree with some of her points, but I don't know what the fuck this has to do with the Barbie movie.

And just like, girl, the Barbie movie came out a year ago.

Like

not the time.

And I also find like her nine-year-old son feeling emasculated.

Like, I'm not buying any of it.

But like the latter point of what she's saying, it's like men and women are different.

And like women are beautiful and powerful, and men are important too.

Like, yeah, we're all important.

Like, I like that message, but I'm not understanding like the nine and 11-year-old son in the Barbie movie part of it, you know?

Yeah, well, I think otherwise, why is she just saying men are important too?

If not,

she needed

a reason.

Yeah, she's just sharing her thoughts.

I actually think that that's a really good take on the movie.

And I think in some ways, it's a version of what we were saying, which is like women are all powerful and great and should be lifted up.

And that was, but like, not, we want to be equal, right?

Like, right.

Just it goes from this to this.

That's not equality either.

Yeah.

I um, there was like a lot pulled from this

interview that Shakira did.

I saw something else today that I was like, okay, and like she was just kind of like saying stuff.

Like, hold on.

She's talking about Eve, the story of Eve in Adam and Eve.

Yeah, is she okay?

Like, I honestly, like, I felt like this article was like really bizarre.

Let me read exactly what she said.

Yeah, I read this thing about Eve and I'm like, okay, Bible, sure.

About how the story of Eve was like created to like keep women down.

Eve was a story created by misogynists.

Okay, well, Eve was like created by like God.

So I'm cracking up.

Eve was a story created by misogynists to put women in the little box where we have to remain silent, not speak our minds and not be a catalyst for change to keep things as they are.

I think there's something refreshing about women when they get to be themselves and be unapologetic because we've had to apologize so many damn times in the past.

So like, I don't know, this article, like, she's just all over the place because this is giving.

We can't put her in a box, honestly, because it's giving the antithesis.

This is giving like Barbie movie energy.

Yes.

Yes.

No, so I actually.

I was just going to say, it's giving America Ferreira's monologue in Barbie movie.

I like the honesty.

I disagree with that point.

Like, I don't see even that way, but

go off, Queen.

The thing about Shakira is that she can't be silenced.

No.

No, she really can't.

I wonder what she's got going on right now that she's like saying so much stuff.

Gearing up.

Yeah, she's gearing up.

She also did this like performance inside a billboard, a Times Square and billboard.

Like the billboard opened up and like Shakira came out on top of this building.

It was kind of wild.

Was it good?

And the Shakira stands were like screaming below.

Okay.

Hope baby, when you talk like that.

Actually, I can do a really good Shakira personation.

I haven't done it in a while.

That wasn't it.

Okay, do it.

I haven't done it in so long.

I need to take my headphones out.

Hold on, okay.

I'm in.

I'm not going to be really embarrassed if this is bad.

Because like at camp, it used to be like my

like I was doing it in the talent show.

Okay.

Damn, I really wish I practiced.

I'm like, about between this and the Amber Heard prank, like I'm gonna be humiliated today.

Okay,

whenever, wherever we're meant to be together, I'll be there and you'll be here.

And that's the deal, my dear.

Okay, that was good.

That was good.

Very, very good.

I would say, though, it was giving like sling Dion a little bit in a good way.

You know what?

I actually feel that.

I do.

Like, my sorry.

But like, goals.

Goals, yeah.

Thank you

very good thank you very much thanks

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Are next phrase really disturbing?

Oh, no.

Angie Harmon says an Instacart driver shot and killed her dog during the delivery.

You're lying.

Angie Harmon says that her dog Oliver was shot and killed over Easter weekend at her North Carolina home.

The actress shared on Monday via Instagram that Oliver was killed by an Instacart delivery man on Saturday.

In a post filled with photos and videos of her dog, which is a German Shepherd Beagle mix, she wrote that the driver got out of his car, delivered the food, and then shot their dog.

Quote, what the fuck?

This Easter weekend, a man delivering groceries for Instacart shot and killed our precious Oliver.

Our ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw and then knew he wasn't being recorded.

An Instacart representative said in a statement to people, we were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this incident.

We have no tolerance for violence of any kind.

And the shopper account was immediately suspended from our platform.

We have been in direct contact with the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their investigation.

Harmon explained.

Holy fuck.

She explained that authorities let the driver go because he claimed self-defense, adding that he did not have a scratch or a bite on him, nor were his pants torn.

So he said the dog attacked him.

So he shot the dog.

There's no...

You just had a gun doing deliveries?

And you just have to like shoot a dog, even though he attacked you, even though there's no physical signs of the attack.

So even if he like came over to you, it wasn't like a rabid attack.

Oh my God.

First of all, I follow Angie Harmon on Instagram.

I didn't even know this.

This is literally the saddest thing ever.

And like, I just feel like every day I wake up and like somebody else is like going through something.

It's like a new thing I have to worry about.

Like I never thought, you know, walking in New York, you have to get punched in the face if you're on your phone.

Like, what has the world come to where everyone's mentally ill and everybody's doing insane things?

Like the list of things I have to worry about every day, it just keeps going up.

It's so true.

She also said he was shopping under a a woman's identity named Merle.

So not even under his own.

This is so fishy.

This is what?

Like, if this is so fishy, because like if there was a real case where like the dog attacked and like, you know, Angie heard and he was screaming and he shot, like, if there was proof, that would have been just like really unfortunate.

But like, I wouldn't have blamed the guy like for, you know, he's getting attacked by a dog.

But there's no proof of that.

He's under an alias.

He's like lying about his identity.

There's weird things going on here.

And I believe Angie.

And I'm really upset.

Yeah.

I hope that they properly investigate this i guess with no footage it's he said

she said this is so tragic and yeah just another thing to worry about

what in the world what in the world

like rosolian isles queen yeah yeah actually not to be so annoying i actually know angie harmony i do how

We met once and we like became like kind of just like connected and now we like talk all the time on Instagram.

I could see it.

Well, you should reach out.

So when you were reading the story, I just sent her a DM.

I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry about Oliver.

Like, that's literally like, I would die.

Yeah.

Insane, insane, horrible story.

I tried to tell you.

Horrible.

You did.

When you said, like, crazy, I was like, oh, great.

What can you and twins got married next?

You know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's where my head goes.

Well, our fifth and final story is some good news to end on.

Some good biz news.

Celeb biz news.

GBN.

GBCN.

Yes.

GCBN.

GCBN.

Taylor Swift is declared a billionaire by Forbes as she joins the list for the first time following her Eras tour success.

Oh my God, I didn't even know this.

I knew it was like coming up.

According to Forbes, Taylor Swift has officially reached billionaire status.

On Tuesday, Forbes released their 2024 billionaire list and Taylor climbed to 14th place with a $1.1 billion fortune following her Eras tour success.

They also listed the world's richest people in order.

Bernard August.

These are my absolute favorite.

Yeah, and we get to do it like once a year.

Once a year.

Okay.

No, we did, because they do like four lists, but yeah, they do like celebrity, the world celebrity billionaires.

Well, back to Taylor, just really quickly.

I want to say it's beyond impressive, like obviously being like a female billionaire.

We were talking about this, I feel like last year on the show.

There's literally like no female billionaires, and the ones that are are like either widows or heiresses who inherited divorcees or husbands or divorcees.

So like there was, I think there was like one or I don't even know if there was one on on the list who was a self-made billionaire.

The fact that Taylor is like a female billionaire is super, super impressive, but also the fact that she's one of the only people,

one of the only musicians to be a billionaire exclusively through music.

Like Rihanna's a billionaire, but not really through her music through Fenty.

Jay-Z is a billionaire through his, you know, very lucrative businesses.

He has a bunch.

and not really through his music.

Taylor is like the only one who really has never veered into anything other than music.

And that's really impressive.

Yeah, it is really impressive.

There's actually a good amount of women on the list of celebrity billionaires.

Well, Kim, yeah.

So number one,

celebrity billionaire.

Let me think.

You're not going to guess.

Oh, really?

Because we're not considering Elon a celebrity.

No.

No.

We'll get to him.

I don't know.

We'll get to him.

Who?

George Lucas, the Star Wars director.

Okay, like celebrity.

We're obviously playing fast and loose with the word.

Number two, who is literally the same type as George Lucas?

And you would say he's a celebrity.

So it's just about like thirst level.

James Cameron.

Who?

James Cameron?

No, but keep going.

I literally don't know any directors.

Steven Spielberg?

Really?

Yeah, would you say he's a celebrity?

Yeah.

Yeah, I would.

Number three, sports.

LeBron?

Michael Jordan.

Class.

I can't help but think of Larsa.

Like, that's really good news for Larsa.

It is.

It's a good brand association.

Four, woman.

All right, just read them.

I'm tired of guessing.

Oh, I was having fun.

I feel like we were doing good.

We're like, it's always more fun to be the person, like, guessing than the person guessing.

Okay, okay.

Number four, Oprah.

Wait, I'm sorry.

Can you give these numbers?

Oh, yeah.

I'll start from the top.

George Lucas, 5.5 billion.

He sold his production company, Lucasfilm, to Disney for $4 billion.

billion.

Got it.

Number two, Steven Spielberg, $4.8 billion.

That's insane.

Number three, Michael Jordan, $3.2 billion.

Damn.

Number four, Oprah Winfrey, $2.8 billion.

Billion?

Yeah.

Number five, Jay-Z, $2.5 billion.

Billion.

Number six, Kim Kardashian, $1.7 billion.

Super impressive.

I'm sorry.

Like, that's really...

Yeah.

To go from, you know,

skinny tea

Yeah to billionaire.

I'm sorry.

It's literally one of the most impressive things on the planet and she keeps going up like I feel like because skims is really and I feel like it took her a long time to like find her thing.

She was doing a bunch of things like Kimoji and that weren't like working and skims and it's so funny when you think about how skims started out kimono.

Yeah.

And like really rocky.

They just kill it.

Their products are amazing.

It's the best shit I've ever worn.

Like, I'm sorry, it is.

Her skims was valued at $4 billion in a 2023 funding round.

That's insane.

Yeah.

And it's worth it.

Number seven, Peter Jackson, $1.5 billion.

He's the director behind Lord of the Rings and The Hobbits.

Okay, I'm learning like being a movie director is kind of everything.

And I need to be a.

Number eight, Tyler Perry, $1.4 billion.

I love, I have like a lot of love in my heart for Tyler Perry.

Yeah.

Number nine, Rihanna, 1.4 billion.

So they're tied.

They're eight.

They're both tied, I think.

technically.

Number 10, Tiger Woods, 1.3 billion.

I feel like that makes sense.

Like golf is like one of the most lucrative sports because you're not on a team.

It's just you.

And there's literally

there's three, like there's a lot of famous golfers, but there's three whose names we know.

Think about how many basketball players' names we know.

Football.

There's Tiger Woods.

There's Rory McElroy.

And there's Phil Mickelson.

Like, that's it.

Yeah.

It's kind of like...

Who's that?

Like, Like, one who drinks Di Coke?

Come again?

Ben's Haber Golfer.

With a D.

He's a lot.

With a what?

John Daly.

Oh, that's not Ben Savorick Golfer, but like Ben relates to him in like a physical sense.

Ben's Sabre Golfer.

Because he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

11, LeBron James, 1.2 brilliant.

Brilliant.

Brilliant.

Number 12, Magic Johnson, 1.2 billion.

But they're tied.

Number three, also tied at 1.2 billion.

Dick Wolf.

You're lying.

I mean, makes sense.

Like, literally makes sense.

Created the greatest thing alive.

You should be a billionaire.

And then number 14, but I guess they went up to 14 because of all the ties.

1.1 billion.

Taylor Swift emerges on the list.

And it'll be interesting to watch her climb up the list.

Like Kim has been climbing up the list.

I feel like Jay-Z's been in like the top five forever, you know?

Yeah.

But I think Taylor's going to give them all for a run for their money.

I think so too.

But I just want to say, like, no shade to anyone else on this list.

I'm sure everyone's like working really hard.

I feel like Taylor is working harder than all of them.

Yeah, well, she's also just like in our faces more.

No, like she literally, she made this list because of doing Eristour, which is like three hours nonstop.

And she's been working for so long.

Like how many albums did she drop in the last three years?

Like it's she's working so hard.

But also, I think that is like the phrase, money talk.

talks wealth whispers like people who are super super wealthy like they're not in your face you know you don't know they're just like you know moving in silence no i think also it's like a lot of these people have mailbox money yeah i don't aside from you know the money she makes from her music which what never really made her a billionaire yet like because you said she doesn't have those businesses that's why i feel like she works harder than everyone because when you set up a business it's hard at first but then eventually like it all comes in that's why it's like really impossible to become a billionaire via music because you have to work so hard for so non-stop

and you always as and any career you have like a peak of a couple of years where you're like big and hot but nobody stays this hot forever and that's what's so impressive about Taylor's career is like, you know, she's winning Album of the Year when she's 16 and when she's 32.

Like nobody has 17 years of like peak dumb.

Yeah.

Why doesn't she start a business?

I don't know.

I mean, Selena Gomez is a billionaire and like she does the least when it comes to like music and,

you know, being a celebrity.

She just like really works on Rare Beauty and it's made her a billionaire.

But what would Taylor's be?

First of all, Taylor could come out with a beauty line and it would be successful.

Her major is iconic and she would promote it really well.

That's a noble.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

But what else?

She would have to like position herself because she could come out with a line of like homeware, like kitchenware.

She's always cooking.

She would have to do more content like that, but that would be easy for her.

And I don't think there's like enough money in this like type of business, but like if she did like a,

I don't even know what the right word is, kind of like papyrus, like notebooks, pens, stationery, very paper source vibes.

She's so paper source.

Journals, exactly planners, cute notebooks, inspirational phrases.

Hallmark cards, like Hallmark, like not Hallmark cards, you know,

stationery.

She's like a

lyrics.

She's like,

like a paper company.

A paper company.

Does that make sense?

Claudia?

A paper company.

Papered goods.

And it would be called, it would be called like tailored.

I mean, if we had anything to say about it.

No, not tailored, tailored.

T-A-I-L-O-R-E-D.

I like tailored better.

Of course you do.

Yeah, so it is shocking because even like, of course, you know, when you think of Taylor, you think of Beyonce.

Beyonce has done quite a few businesses.

Ivy Park, we reported recently she was doing a hair care company.

Title is like her and Jay-Z's thing.

Like she's into it.

Yeah.

Or I also could see Taylor starting her own record label because that's a big passion of hers, like redesigning the music industry.

And she's made enormous changes for herself and other artists through like her work with the labels and her work with, she got Apple Music to pay everyone more.

But if she started her own label and then like Sabrina Carpenter was one of her,

she should do that.

Yeah.

Things she should do because that.

Because then you become as big as Universal.

That's a billion-dollar company.

Yeah.

And she would then have like stake in all the people that she's

promoting.

Yeah.

No, like, why hasn't she done that?

Yeah.

I was surprised when she left, but when she left, that's why like the whole Taylor Swift Scott Borshetta scooter thing was such a, was such at such a bad time for Taylor.

Because I think if you look at the arc of Taylor's career, she's never really had a flop era.

But I think before and during lover was this lull for her where she wasn't as popular as she has been or she.

was going to become.

And she was like up for renegotiations.

And they said, you know, you release one, you buy one, you you release one, you buy one, or you can go somewhere else and leave it all here.

And that's what she did.

And I feel like if she was where she was at now and her record label deal was up, she would start her own label.

Yeah, so Lover was the first post-Big Machine album.

Yeah.

But are there so

the songs on there aren't about the Big Machine breakup because they were kind of done.

Yeah, previously, yeah.

So then the next album, like the folklore Evermores are more about scooter.

My tears ricochet.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

No, she's going to start her own record label.

Turdy called it.

I know.

I think it's like

her paper company, and she would have like a lifelong customer in me.

That's, I think, more down the line.

Like, that's like a retirement job.

I would love that.

Me too.

Okay.

Oh, that's all the stories.

Oh, but then the other part of the list was just world's richest people, period.

Hit me.

Number one, Bernard Al Nault with 230

L V M H 233 billion

you're lying no 233 billion yeah wait that's so much money that's insane give me one give me one

one

number two it's your boy elon 195 billion

So crazy.

I don't know why I thought like the richest people like maybe max out like 100 billion.

I didn't know we were nearing 300.

I feel like it keeps going up.

Yeah, well, that's if you're doing

it.

Yeah.

Number three,

Jeff Bezos at $194 billion.

So I feel like him and Elon just go back and forth depending on the day.

Yes.

The fact that they're a billion apart, like, how do you even know that?

I guess because of the stock value is exactly how you know it, but still.

Number four,

Mark Yuckerberg, $177 billion.

Number five, Larry Ellison, $141 billion.

What does he do?

Oracle?

Question mark?

Cool.

Feels all right.

Number six, Warren Buffett, $133 billion.

Kind of slacken.

Okay, like Warren Buffett.

Let's just discuss

that.

Okay, question mark for me.

Like, I know Warren Buffett, like, Warren Buffett, Warren Buffett.

Like, oh, his stock tips.

Warren Buffett says this, Warren Buffett says that.

Like, finance bros, like, they have a picture of Warren Buffett, like, above their bets.

And I'm, I believe

Berkshire Hathaway.

That's him?

He started that.

And what does he look like?

I kind of like not knowing.

He kind of looks like what you think he would look like.

Let me see, because I feel like he looks like Warren Beattie, that old guy who messed up the Oscars thing.

Yeah, it's like Warren Beattie would play him in a movie, but doesn't really look like him.

No, by the way, twins.

That's exactly.

Oh, by the way, he's much older than 90.

He's 93.

Yeah, this also has ages, which is interesting.

Elon's the youngest on this list.

Go, Elon.

Go, Elon.

Go eat shit.

That's because he's also like, wait, he's younger than Mark Yuckerberg.

Oh, I'm sorry.

No, I skipped over the Yuck.

Yuck is 39.

Elon's 52.

Jeff Bezos is 60.

He just had his big party.

Jeff Bezos is 60?

Yeah, what did you think he was?

I don't know.

He kind of acts like a teenager

on his boat with his girlfriend.

I don't know why I thought he was like max 45.

I don't know.

That's just what I thought.

No, 60.

Okay, and then number seven, Bill Gates, 128 billion.

Like, literally how?

I feel like nobody's had a Microsoft computer since 1999.

I don't know.

I have a lot lot of people.

He also has a lot of other stuff that he does now.

He bought up

a lot of farmland.

Well, yeah, people are upset about that.

He bought up all the farmland in this country.

Yeah, he bought up all the farmland.

I think he's the largest owner of farmland

in the country.

He's like making like

I don't know.

He has a lot of experiments going on.

I think he's making some sort of like

synthetic breast milk.

I don't know.

I kind of hate, I kind of hate Bill Gates.

I feel like he's always been so rich.

And I remember like i'm sure he should be rich like from microsoft but like my god microsoft like if anybody has a microsoft computer you're like oh my god get a job like it's just microsoft is not it yeah he invested in lab produced breast milk

he gives me freaky energy i don't know if he gives everyone freaky energy like it's hard he's awesome bill gates and not like fall down a rabbit hole plus all because he was on a lot of manifests from Epstein's Island.

Like he's a freak.

He's a freak.

He's freaky deeky.

And then like him and Melinda, who everyone were like, oh my God, a couple goals.

Then they like broke up.

It's like, what the hell happened?

I don't know.

I just got weird vibes from him.

What does Melinda know?

What does Melinda know?

Number eight, Steve Ballmer, $121 billion.

I don't know.

Did we ever find out?

Remember, we had that news story like two years ago that the IRS like released a notice that one of the world's wealthiest people.

They didn't release a notice.

People like were tracking IRS incoming

earnings, and there was a huge sum, which really could have only been from a billionaire dying and the inheritance tax.

And no, I never heard anything about it again.

That was the fun story.

That was a little fun investigation.

Yeah.

Who's Steve Ballmer?

You tell me.

You have the list.

Yeah, but they didn't say who Steve Ballmer is.

So maybe he's like family money?

I'll Google him.

It's worth a quick Google.

Ballmer.

I like saying Ballmer.

I like saying his name.

Oh, he's a CEO of Microsoft.

Jackie, I'm telling you, there is something up with Microsoft.

Like, I don't believe it.

Well, what else does Microsoft own?

Yeah, because they were like in talks to buy TikTok.

Like, how can you afford that?

Right.

When your CEO is a billionaire, I don't know.

I'm not buying it.

What does Microsoft own?

LinkedIn.

Irrelevant.

Skype.

Okay, like

a bunch of losery ass early 2000s tech companies.

Yeah.

Comcast.

11.5% of Comcast.

Oh.

Okay.

I don't want to fall down this rabbit hole.

I won't be able to come back up.

Nine Mukesh Ambani, $116 billion.

On my way to search what

Mr.

Ambani does.

Oh, by the way, I believe that is the guy.

Is he India?

They just had the wedding where Rihanna performed.

It was his son.

Do they do textiles?

What do they do?

They does.

They does.

He runs Reliance Industries, which has interests in petrochemicals, oil and gas, telecom, retail, and fire.

Okay, but it kind of can be everything.

Maybe they do have textiles.

Everyone was just talking about this family on my TikTok because it was this huge wedding.

So many celebrities were there.

Ivanka Trump was there.

I think Kim was there.

Rihanna was there.

It was like kind of crazy.

Yeah.

No, not be honest.

Oh, yeah.

No, I saw the wedding.

The Redding made it to Reels.

Don't worry.

Yeah.

Okay, good, good, good.

The Redding made it everywhere.

And then number 10 is Larry Page.

Google.

Google.

And he's 51.

Okay, so he's also younger than Elon.

That's so crazy.

Him and Elon have beef.

Do they?

Yeah.

You remember Larry Page called him a specist?

A what?

Speciast, like prejudiced against other species because Elon doesn't think that artificial intelligence should be able to be as smart or smarter than us.

Oh, I'm a species because I think like, you know, dogs are dumb.

Like I'm smart.

And he was talking about like robots shouldn't be able to like.

They should cap their intelligence.

By the way, the fact that like the word specist exists, like ageist, specist, racist, like we have gone too far and people in tech are truly mentally ill.

Yeah, no, that's insane.

So that's really what I know about Ari Page and it's going to be a no from me, dog.

It's going to be a no from me.

Well,

oh, I didn't know today was going to be the day where we did the list.

It's my favorite day.

And we love our lists, but that's the best one.

And we love our billionaires and we hope to be one one day.

Who's your favorite and least favorite billionaire on the list?

Oh, such a good question.

Well, probably my favorite now would be Taylor.

Okay.

But are you talking about like business people?

Yeah, we have to do keep the conversations apart because also there are probably like 100 people in between the celebrities.

Yeah.

Let's do the celebrities and their measly bill and the two on my third.

The favorite real billionaire is the Arnault guy.

Like I just, to be first or last, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, and of course, like he owns everything cool.

Louis Vuitton, Moay, Hennessy, like that's the coolest company, LVMH.

They own all the designer brands, liquor brands, like goals.

My least favorite would definitely be Mark Mark Zuckerberg.

Yeah, Yuckerberg.

And like as a Jew representing us on the list, like he doesn't speak for us.

No, no, he doesn't.

That little, you know, Yucky Yuckerberg.

Who's your favorite?

I mean, we know your favorite is Elon.

Period.

Least?

Yuck.

The yuck.

The yuckinator.

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