I Am Woman Hear Me Roar: Friday, March 8th, 2024
- Ariana Grande navigatest the complexities of a dreaded divorce on healing new album 'Eternal Sunshine' (Page Six) (18:55)
- Kylie Jenner Addresses Critics Who Say Her New Look Is a Result of Her Relationship with Timothee Chalamet (PEOPLE)(25:58)
- Margaret Qualley to Play Amanda Knox in Hulu Limited Series (Variety) (37:58)
- 'Rust' Armorer Hannah Guiterrez Reed Guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter in Accidental Shooting (Variety) (47:29)
- Love Is Blind's Jimmy Presnell and Chelsea Blackwell Spark Reconciliation Rumors (52:48)
- Weenie Of The Week and Queenie Of The Week (56:04)
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Good morning, Millennials.
Oh my god, I forgot to put my rings on today.
Divorce.
Turdy's getting divorced.
Extra, extra.
I think we should just like have started the show already.
Like the show has started.
Welcome back to the toast.
Happy Friday.
Should that be our new our new?
No, are you sure?
How about this?
Do you like that?
You want to sabotage the show?
No, I'm just inspired.
I sound like Romeo today.
Oh, Romeo, Romeo, where for out thou Romeo?
Secret Project Reveal.
We said we've been teasing something all week.
A lot of people thought I was going to the Oscars.
Lol.
Even better.
Better.
I went up.
The Oscars irrelevant.
Romeo,
the name on everybody's lips.
That's right.
If you've been following my journey over the past couple of months, it's been really trying.
It's
not been.
the best.
It's not been the best.
Personally, I've been going through a lot.
I lost the absolute love of my life, and I actually have been healing from it.
You know, Theo, my furry angel who is watching over us in heaven, I had made a lot of progress, actually, in my healing journey.
The first, like,
actually, his cancer diagnosis and then like the weeks that followed were really hard.
But I've actually been doing better.
I really have.
I felt like I had grown.
And I made a big life change in the last couple of weeks.
We have procured a new son.
His name is Romeo.
He's an angel.
He's about 12 weeks old.
And let me tell you, don't believe everything you see on social media.
I'm struggling.
Like, I feel like it's reopened my wound.
With Theo?
Yeah.
Like, I was doing better until
in what ways?
They look so much alike.
Like, and I don't know if it's dog mannerisms or this dog has the same mannerisms as Theo, or just all dogs do it.
Probably a bit of both.
And also the breed.
The breed, like little things, you know, like the, like tiny little things.
I'm like, oh, that's so Theo.
Yeah, but does that not make you feel like Romeo might be the reincarnated spirit of Theo, especially because when did Theo pass and when was Romeo born?
Did his soul just enter into Romeo's body?
Let me get you the exact dates.
I know that Romeo was born on December 14th, 2023.
Okay.
By the way, it's within days.
It's not within days.
Actually, I think this works out.
I think Theo passed a week before that.
I think it was exactly a week on December
7th.
So I think that the soul goes through a week-long process.
December 7th.
The The soul goes through a week-long process before it's ready to enter a new shit.
So Theo died on the 7th and Tromeo was like in utero for one more week.
I feel as though they definitely communicated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think when you think about it that way.
It can be.
Yeah, no, by the way, I have no regrets.
I have no regrets.
Like I needed another dog.
I totally feel like there was some sort of, you know, heavenly meeting of the minds for sure.
It's just
like, what the fuck?
Like, for real.
Like, I can't believe I'm like with a new dog.
Like, Theo was supposed to be my whole life.
Yeah.
It's disgusting.
I'm really happy.
I don't want to like.
He's so cute.
He's so cute.
He's mom's angel.
I've vlogged the entire experience from start to finish, from like literally like finding Romeo to picking him up to dropping him.
Like, it's been a weeks-long vlog.
We started the vlog the first week of February, so it's been a month, actually.
It's at patreon.com slash the toast.
There's a nice tribute in there to Crunchy Angel Dora.
Um,
and it's good, you know, we're back in the puppy stage, feeling like a newborn mom, you know, even though Romeo's such a good dog.
And we had sent him for a month to Dog Friendly Living, which is our Bruno Magnolia Theo's training round.
Theo actually invented dog-friendly living.
Now, everyone's like, oh, Magnolia loves dog-friendly living.
Theo invented it, lest we not forget.
That's where these dogs were trained up to become the men that they were.
That they are exactly.
It's giving military school.
Yeah, it's giving a finishing school.
And so Romeo spent the last month there while I was at your house and in St.
Bart's.
So he's a little advanced.
You know, I slept from 10.30 to 8.
I'm fine.
That's beautiful.
So not really like a newborn mom, but major update in the life of Turdy Lou and Ben's offer celebrity.
It's been, it's been great.
It's been a mix of emotions.
It's not just been like overwhelmingly joyous.
I'm not going to lie.
Okay.
Thank you for your honesty.
How's Ben doing?
I feel like Ben is actually healing, like for real.
Ben is back in his grumpy dad, like, oh, I have to get up.
Like, oh, we have to put him in the kitchen.
Like, he's being so fucking annoying.
Like, and I'm like, he treats like these puppies like they're newborn babies.
I don't even know what he's going to be like with a real child.
Like, I keep reminding Ben.
I'm like, Ben is a dog.
We put him in the crate and he's like,
you, Turdy.
No, no, no.
But, like, I feel like it's really important to remember.
Like, we put the dog, we put Romeo in the crate and he, like, whimpered.
Of course, it's his first day in a new home and he's in his crate.
And Ben's like, what do we do?
Like, we let him cry.
Yeah.
Ben is just very much like nervous, khal yel yee, new parent energy.
Got it.
Oh, so now you're saying that's frightening to think about how it will be with an action baby in that sense.
I thought you were saying he was just doing the most.
So it's like he's going to do even more.
No, it's not doing the most.
He's worrying about the wrong things.
I keep needing to remind him to calm down.
Understood.
Classic bad stuff.
Classic bad stuff.
I do feel like the process is healing for Ben.
I'm like watching him heal.
He's still, up until, you know, a couple of days ago, he was crying over Theo.
But do you think he's able to heal because he let out his emotions over the last three months and maybe you haven't let them out as much?
You think?
I don't know.
Just I'm going based on what you've shared.
Like you said the other night, Ben was hysterically crying and like you couldn't deal with it.
Like maybe if I spent more time crying, like you would be ready for the next chapter.
But I spent so much time crying those early weeks.
And oh my God, I'm literally having PTSD because this is exactly how I remember feeling when our dad passed away.
Like after I grieved, I was just like, bitch, I do not want to be grieving anymore.
Grieving sucks.
Like, I'm just changing my mindset because I do not want to be Ms.
all the time.
Like, I'm a happy person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is a lot about mindset, but you also have to allow yourself to feel things and just don't let it get bottled up.
But I do think that you have like a healthy emotional process, so I'm not worried about you.
I'm doing okay.
I want to let everyone know.
I am doing okay.
Oh my God, except that I just spilled my fucking coffee on my Jenny Kane cashmere sweater.
Fuck.
Not the Jenny Kane.
Look at this.
How did I even do that?
What do I do?
Do we have a tide stick or something?
Like, I think we have a shout wipe.
Oh, okay.
Wait, Jenny Kane with the microfiber.
It's completely gone.
This isn't even an ad for Jenny Kane, but this was an expensive sweater.
And it could be.
Oh, obsessed.
Thanks, Jenny.
Well, speaking of Jenny Kane, just in time for, you know, a puppy to come and ruin my home, my home is really coming along fabulously.
While I was at your house, I had so many furniture deliveries from CB2.
I got my bar stools.
I got this gorgeous reading chair.
Ben's like, what's the point of this chair?
I'm like, you wouldn't understand.
It's for girls to read on.
Like, it's just perfect.
It's in the corner.
It's sun-drenched.
It's giving, it's giving, honestly, like, pride and prejudice.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so of our two things that Romeo really can't mess up.
Yeah, no, actually, I didn't get any rugs from CB2.
That's true.
He can't mess up.
Hmm.
I guess what else did I get?
I guess he could like lift his leg and pee on the side of the chair, but they don't do that at this age.
No, they don't.
They don't.
But I'm just like really excited about my home.
I feel like before I left, I was hating my home because I saw.
Not to use a slur, but a mouse.
No settings of the mouse.
All the traps were clean.
And now I have all this gorgeous furniture.
And I'm just feeling good in my home.
I don't want to jinx it.
I feel like, oh, what I'm going to see a mouse this weekend, but I'm feeling good.
And Romeo's there to make it a home.
New beginnings, me and my CB2 furniture.
And Romeo.
It sounds beautiful.
Yeah.
Good.
It's good.
How are you doing?
How's your home?
How's your shalom bite?
I'm good.
My home is great.
What did I do yesterday?
I went to the gym.
Oh, I worked so hard.
Did you do 5K stuff?
Yes, I did.
And I was trying to get my fastest time, but then somebody called me towards the end and I made the mistake of picking up.
And I'll explain after the show and then I just like private matter?
Yeah, and then I couldn't get off the phone, so I was walking.
So I, I don't, I don't, my time doesn't even matter.
I guess you can't do this because you're a mother of two, but like I put my phone always on do not disturb when I'm working out.
No, I also couldn't have declined the call, but just like based on the area code and the
caller ID.
It was intriguing.
I was interested and I felt I fell for it.
And once I got to that point, I was like, okay, I'll finish this conversation.
Up until that point what was your 5k time oh okay so I was probably almost at three miles and I was at like 38 minutes or something like that oh so you're you're tracking the same like that's very good yeah yeah I probably would have been like 43 to 45 minutes for the 5k I'm so glad we're making so much progress
When I actually got an update yesterday, I had a call with my publicists and they assured me that the 5K still has no date and no location.
So I'm so glad we're making progress.
How do the publicists know that?
They've been in contact with Bert's team.
Bert's team.
Okay.
That's how we're going to get our, that's how we're going to get our information moving forward.
Our people will talk to their people.
Exactly.
I like that.
Speaking of our people.
Not speaking of our people.
We shan't speak of them.
I don't know what I was going to say.
And I knew that as I was saying it, that it wasn't the right segue.
And so I got like distracted by my segue.
Segue distraction.
I do know.
Well, I'm sure it'll come back to you in due time.
Other than that, it's Friday, which is a joyous occasion.
Fucking great.
Here at the show.
Just cause to celebrate.
I remember what I was going to say.
There's kind of like really big news in the Jewish community of New York City.
Everyone is talking about this new grocery store.
And it's called Ori's.
And apparently it's so fabulous.
And everybody's talking about it.
Apparently Apparently, there's one in Brooklyn that like everybody dies over.
They've got this cold following.
So they're like, we got to go to the city for the city Jews.
And that's what I'm going to do this afternoon.
I'm going to head up to Ori's right before Shabbos, right before closing time, because I've heard they have such a great butcher and it's very reasonably priced.
But I spoke to some friends who have been there and they said, and it reminded me of you, because when I went to your house, how much fruit did I eat at your house?
We buy fruit every day.
You buy fruit every day.
And like you're living in Florida, like they're growing that shit next door.
Like it's fresh, it's delicious, it's organic.
It's a fresh group fruit here.
And the fruit in New York, oh my God, it could make you suicidal.
Like it's so sad for everyone involved.
Like it's shriveled.
Or it's like artificially ripened.
It has no flavor.
They said that the fruit at this place, it's like they're giving pre-cut like fruit that's so big and like everybody's talking about the fruit.
The Jewish community has been turned on its head by this new grocery store.
That's very exciting.
Did I say the name?
Ories.
Ori's.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Some people are saying Ori's, some people saying Ories.
I don't know.
You'll get the tea when you go.
Speaking of the Jewish community, actually, I can't believe it took us this long to mention that today's International Women's Day, our favorite day of the year.
Yes.
When someone wishes me a happy International Women's Day, like...
I know everything I need to know about them.
Or like we can, we're laughing, right?
Like it's a joke.
Oh, someone wished me an Happy International Women's Day today, and I was like, thank you.
Was it as a joke?
I don't know.
Oh, I feel like if you're telling it to me seriously, like, Chile,
I see you, you see me, we're good.
We're good.
But if you're saying it as like a joke, like you just said it to me, like
you're my sister for life in a literal and figurative sense.
It's a hysterical joke.
So happy International Women's Day to all who celebrate, question mark.
And do is anyone really, of those who celebrate in like a real, unironic way, meaningful way, are you even really celebrating all women?
Question mark.
Wait, have you been vocal about the women being kidnapped and raped in Gaza?
The Israeli women's who are held hostage in Gaza.
Have you been vocal about the women who were beaten, raped, tortured, and killed?
Oh, and their corpses were raped too on October 7th.
Have you been vocal about the women who are reportedly still being held in Gaza and are reported to be pregnant because they've been raped so much?
Happy International Women's Day.
Because if you haven't, shut the fuck up with your graphics and respectfully, actually, disrespectfully, eat my ass.
Yeah.
So glad we got that off our chest.
It's Friday.
It's going to be, tell me about the stories.
Oh, and oh, fuck.
It's Queenie and Weenie of the Week.
Thank God we didn't forget.
Thank God we didn't forget.
So
I'll be thinking of mine during the ad break.
By the way, I need you to read some ads so I can think of mine.
I actually had mine.
I thought of my
weenie, of course, very early on in the week.
It came to me almost in a dream, you know?
Yeah.
So I have that.
Oh, I have a good queenie for you.
You do?
The thing is with Queenie and Weenie of the Week, you end up knowing me better than I know myself.
Yeah.
When I almost didn't make Annie Lennox Weenie of the Week, what was I doing?
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
Okay, well, let's get into the stories.
I would say that they are pretty good for a Friday.
A lot of people talking.
The people are talking.
Yeah.
Let's like mark this as the time of year where like the celebrities are celebritying.
That's so funny that you said that because there are definitely times of year where doing our job is extremely difficult.
The holiday season in particular, the summer, celebrities take off, they're not working.
But March, end of March, early February also happens to be like a very vacation heavy time.
It's like at the high season in St.
Bart's and Aspen, like the two celebrity places.
So I was actually thinking recently how lucky we've been these past like weeks or two weeks with good stories.
Good stories, but I wouldn't attribute them to like vacations.
People are doing interviews.
People are putting out music.
People are just being generally interesting.
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So Ariana Grande's new album came out today called Eternal Sunshine, and she is navigating the complexities of a dreaded divorce on what is being called a healing album.
So we need to talk about the music and the lyrics because my favorite movie.
The music itself, I was listening this morning and I thought it was really strong.
There were a couple early songs that like I was really enjoying and the lyrics were they were descriptive but not overtly like
what's the word?
Just not subtle.
Not subtle.
They were not subtle, but they weren't like so
crazy you know i left dalton dalton was bad i was mad now i like spongebob right but she is talking a little bit about what went down with dalton and lyrics seem to point to the fact that he had cheated on her so everyone thinks that this is like you know ari's big justice moment like she wasn't a homewrecker um in her relationship because dalton was cheating on her Well, I'm going to hold space for two things.
Like, he could have cheated on her, and she still could have been a homewrecker.
One does not negate the other.
Yeah, I never was upset about the dissolution of Ari's marriage.
Nobody was.
My big question listening to this album is, why did you marry this guy?
Oh, that's interesting.
Nobody, like, I think it was in 2020 or it was during COVID, 2021.
Like, nobody, nobody, Ariana Grande marries Dalton Gomez.
Like,
yeah.
We never, we even knew that they were dating for a long time.
Like, he doesn't seem like the most
interesting, handsome, you know, successful.
Gotta lock him down.
Yeah, Yeah, this is probably one of my least favorite tropes.
Like, successful women with losers who end up like cheating on them.
Like, you're kidding, right?
Also, one of my least favorite tropes is like, you dated a person, you loved them,
introduced us to them, like, you took up for them, and then like, they weren't great, and now it's our problem.
Oh, my God, I completely agree, Ariana Maddox.
Like, I so love you.
Also, you know what else?
You know who else I feel that way about?
And I feel like
people aren't going to like this, but Olivia Rodrigo.
She's always like dating these guys.
I don't know them.
And then there's this whole album of like, and now I have to care about what this schmuck did.
That's interesting.
I don't feel that way.
I thought you were going to say
Miley.
Who hurt her?
Because she's like always singing about Liam, but I actually do care.
Oh, I care.
Oh, I care so much.
Tell me everything.
Tell me everything.
And I feel like our collective will.
And Liam didn't turn out to be a loser.
No, and I feel like even though they loved each other so much, it was also our collective will pushing them together.
Like I felt like an active participant in their relationship.
These other ones, I'm like, I don't know him from Adam.
No, you're right.
Your thesis of like shoving someone in our face and then like when things go wrong, we all have to like support you.
Like, we knew, Ariana.
I'm really talking about Ariana Maddox.
Not even, we knew.
Not even like we have to support you.
It's like we have to care about this person that we never cared about to begin with, and we only cared about them because you made us care about them.
I don't care.
Yeah, I never heard the name Dalton Gomez Pryor.
Yeah.
Like when you're always like going on your relationship, this guy is so great.
I'm like, okay.
And now I have to like, you know,
turn a switch.
Like, why am I involved?
It's not about.
Why?
How did I get here?
Why, why is who gave me this switch?
Yeah, like, this is not my switch.
This is not my switch.
This is your switch.
So, yes, I agree.
That also is one of my least favorite tropes.
So, the first half of the album, which is pretty much what I got through, was like doll tinny tings about, you know, she cries herself to sleep.
He doesn't give a rip.
He's watching TV.
Just not a great relationship is what I would say.
These are are energy.
And that's not new news.
I also feel like when they were divorcing, when all this went down, like there were blind items that he had been spotted with other girls.
Like I feel like I knew he was a dog.
A nefarious actor, a bad faith actor.
A bad faith actor.
I didn't feel like he was a man scorned and that she left this like wonderful guy.
I never felt that way.
So that clarification like didn't change anything for me.
Okay.
The question still is SpongeBob.
Now, I was just getting to the point in the album where she's talking, what was the song?
It was actually really good, like musically, too.
It was called, We Can't Be Friends, parentheses, wait for your love.
Ooh, it's giving a fair.
It's giving a fair.
Like, maybe they try to be friends.
How do you see lyrics on Spotify?
You know what?
I'm an extremely tech savvy person, and I don't know.
People are always taking screenshots.
I feel like go to the song and then swipe, like move your finger up.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
I was doing this all morning because I wanted to read the lyrics as I was listening to the songs.
And I just feel like a grandmother.
It's this like elusive thing on social media.
It's like I can do anything, I can make any TikTok.
I cannot figure out
how to do it.
Let me see.
I'm pulling up a song and then it's, oh no, yeah, look, scroll here.
Lyrics.
I'm at the yes end lyrics.
Maybe you need to update what song are you trying to do?
We can't be friends.
We can't be friends
about the artist.
No, they're not here yet.
They're not here yet.
Okay.
So I'm not being a grandma.
No.
Okay.
So I also,
the critics,
one of her like highly, most highly rated albums yet.
Yeah, I saw it got a 93.
I met a critic.
Those do go down and up, but that's a very good debut score.
Yeah, it's a good, strong album, like musically, sonically.
She sounds like a music.
What do you want about Ariana?
Like, she is a homewrecker, allegedly, but she makes fabulous music.
She does.
So
maybe when I finish the album, I will know what's this allure of Spongebob.
And yeah.
Yeah.
I'm having a hard time
like being intrigued by this story.
I know like in the past couple of weeks, she's done a lot of press.
There's been a lot of stories.
We haven't really spoken about it on here.
I'm just not, I'm not in that space.
Yeah, I feel like I'm not in the space of like fawning over her personal life and whatnot, but I, her music, I'm I'm willing to give it a shot.
And I had the bandwidth to listen to music while I got ready this morning.
Wow, she's a whole new woman.
Which was just coincidental that it was new album day.
Yeah, love that.
If it had been a different day,
who knows?
But I even added some to my like songs.
I'm going to keep listening to them.
Wow.
She also had a song called Bye, which is like a breakup song.
So you think it's going to be...
Sad?
Sad, but it's like a bop.
It's like a celebration.
It's, you know, she really turned it on its head.
Totally random, but speaking of music, I saw something so interesting.
yesterday.
We were talking about the idea of you, the Ann Hathaway movie.
Apparently, there's an original song that is a part of the movie because if the movie's about a boy band, that's very much like supposed to be One Direction.
And one of the songwriter on that song is one of the songwriters on what makes you beautiful by One Direction.
Like they really went full One Direction fan fiction.
Love.
So hopefully it's good.
I was going to say, I bet the song's amazing.
I bet the song is amazing.
Yeah.
Exciting.
Yeah.
Speaking of more girlies who are speaking up, Kylie Jenner is in a new interview by the New York Times published on Thursday, talking about her business and her new look.
And they say she's talking about Timothy, but she's talking about it just to say, I don't want to talk about that.
Also, I'm so glad you brought this up because we need to talk about Kylie's new venture.
Oh, yes.
She has a new canned cocktail company called Sprinter.
Yes.
And she like soft launched it last week.
She just like made a TikTok off her outfit and she was holding this box.
And I'm like, oh, this is totally a soft launch.
I'm like, what the hell is in that box?
I kept like screenshotting and trying to zoom in.
And it's a canned cocktail.
It's a vodka soda.
And it's called Sprinter.
And
so funny because, like, the last time Kylie launched a business, Kai, I remember being negative.
I'm like, this is like, why?
You know, unnecessary.
Why, actually?
I have felt since then, like, every drop is cuter than the next.
Then the current drop, those like off the shoulder, like obsessed.
Love.
So I was a hater, and I think I was wrong.
I really do.
I don't know if it's super successful, but I see it and I get it and I respect it.
With this, I'm like the same thing.
I'm like, why yeah this feels even more why it does right and i maybe i'm gonna be wrong maybe we'll be wrong it feels super why and i also feel like she does party and drink and likes alcohol so it's not that shocking but i feel like she's always drinking tequila she likes to take shots like a vodka soda
And this is just one of the many things about the Kardashian universe that always confuses me, like how this isn't in direct competition or just like conflict with 818.
Yeah.
Which is tequila, which I guess because they're different spirits, they're not considered like the same category, but it's liquor.
I saw someone say that she would have been better off like coming out with like an 818 tequila soda canned cocktail.
Yeah, but also the girls, a lot of the sisters are investors in 818, and I believe Kylie as well.
So
I don't know.
I don't think it's so competitive, but I just...
Don't know what brings Kylie to the space.
No, me neither.
And like why there are so many companies.
Like I, can you imagine what Kylie Cosmetics would be if it was Kylie's like sole focus and she really like went so hard for it?
She makes like a lot of content when there's a drop and then like never to be heard from again.
Then there's a new drop and there's more content.
Like I feel it's great to have your hand in a million things, but I feel like at some point it's too much.
And I feel like Sprinter, but maybe in a month I'm going to be like, I was so wrong about Sprinter because that's what I said about Kai.
Do you think that maybe
it's not her company entirely and she's just like the face of of this new company and maybe she's an investor and getting paid and and it's less so like her you know putting cans in boxes and shipping them out actually that's an amazing call because why would it be called sprinter actually i think sprinter is actually a good name for a beverage i actually really like it um but like kai is clearly kylie kylie cosmetics is clearly kylie kylie skin so yeah maybe this is just a partnership because if she had her own vodka it would be called like cocktail Kai cocktails.
Yeah, and I also feel like the lunch would have been even bigger.
Bigger.
Maybe.
I'm sure there's easy ways to find out who's on the
business side of things.
That's a very, very good call.
And that would make a lot more sense.
Yes.
Well, in the interview, which runs the gamut talking about her business and her new look,
she was asked to respond to critics who say that her latest style is influenced by her current boyfriend, Timothy.
She said...
I'm saying that, by the way.
I feel like I literally said it a few weeks ago.
Oh, her LOL?
That her new look is like Timothy's lady.
No, I said that.
You actually kind of did say that.
I said that the Golden Globes.
That, like, that was her outfit.
It was just like, I'm here to support my
partner.
This is like, I'm not being Kylie Jenner, like, I'm just being my husband's an actor.
I feel like Kylie's recent style, which is much more pulled back and simple, is just reflective of the actual trends.
Like, it's very much clean girl aesthetic, like slick back button, freckles.
Like, I feel she's just a, you know, a consumer of the industry, you know?
But also also of her just maturing and growing up.
Like, you do,
I know, I pull back.
You used to be crazy.
I know, I used to be crazy.
It's not like it's been like a complete 180 overnight.
Actually, if you look back, like, yeah, from the King Kylie era to now, mom of two, it's, I feel like it's actually been like a slow progression of like easing it down and pulling it back.
Yeah, pairing it back.
So she had said that she doesn't know how she feels about that.
She said, I just don't want to talk about personal things, aka Timothy.
That's so fine.
And I feel like that's actually a really really good way to handle it as opposed to like when you don't want something spoken about, Ben Platt, your publicist, like stopping the interview.
Yeah.
Yeah, especially when it's like meant to be like an interview about your businesses.
You have so many.
You're one of the youngest, most successful women in the country.
Like,
why do I need to talk about my boyfriend of eight months?
So factual, New York Times.
Like, hello?
Yeah.
On International Women's Day, none of the things that's disgusting.
Disgusting.
Do better.
Do better.
Educate yourself.
Support women.
Jaggie, read a book.
Support strong women.
Support on International Women's Day and every day.
And every day.
No, I really have been like loving Kylie's recent.
I feel like after she had her second baby, she was like MIA for a while and she's like slowly been coming out.
I'm just loving everything I'm seeing.
Yeah, they also just talked about like the impact of the criticism over her looks over the years.
And she said, it's just years and years of not feeling like my face or looks are accepted.
There's nothing anyone could ever say now that would hurt me.
And I feel like that sentiment like oozes out of her pores now.
Like she doesn't care.
Not in a way of like, I don't care what people think about me.
In a way of like, I'm so hardened.
What you say can't even come close to touching me.
And in hindsight, it's really so psychotic how for the last, what, eight years, how old is Kylie?
28.
Okay, yeah.
So for the last eight years, like when she was like, 26, sorry.
Okay, great.
Even better, because I feel feel like she got her lips done when she was 18.
So, for the last eight years, like, how this incredibly young girl's face and body has been like bared the brunt of every like angry feminist, like, beauty standard speech.
Like, she's literally just been a child for most of it.
And even a 25-year-old who's not a child is ill-equipped to handle something like that.
Like, it's really now in hindsight so crazy how much like pressure and like blame we put on Kylie Jenner for getting her lips done.
Yeah, and it's like
also everybody else does it and is doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So
just,
that's what's up with Kylie.
Kylie needs to do a podcast, actually, now that I'm thinking about it.
I guess she's done one.
She does a lot of like, yeah, no, not have her own, excuse me.
She
does a lot of like really traditional media because I feel like she really wants to be taken seriously as a business woman.
So those Wall Street Journals, like New York Times, that's fabulous.
But I feel like, and we've been saying this for years, people really don't know Kylie on a personal level.
And I think maybe she's not interested in people knowing that side of her.
Like that's something she wants to keep private.
And I would totally respect that too.
But I feel like these old school Forbes, like she's always, she cares so much about what these magazines think.
And I think if she sat down and just like for an hour, I'm not saying it should be the toast, but like it really should be.
Yeah.
Just like.
explained herself and like talked through like what she's been through from like a non-judgmental place.
I feel like all of these companies, Forbes is like always like, well, your paperwork said that in 2017.
Like they're so rigid and so like trying to, trying to doubt her.
Yeah.
I feel like an interview on the toast, like actually, I'm not trying to pitch myself, but if this did, you know, make its way.
I know there are people in the Kardashian universe, like a lot of them who listen to this show.
And now that enough time has passed, like, you know, one of them was actually pitched to come on and they said she was a huge fan and you know, things happen.
But
I feel like Kylie needs to do, if she's interested, needs to do.
an hour-long podcast.
I also think it would really benefit her businesses if people got to know her on like a more vulnerable level.
And got to know like the reason why she's putting, making certain things.
Cause a lot of the time it's like, I didn't see this in the market and like I wanted to make this.
You know, and people just see every time the Kardashians lost your business, they just see it as like a money grab.
They do.
But I feel like it's more well thought out than that.
Always.
I agree.
I think the toast is absolute perfect for him.
But if it weren't, it really is, by the way.
But if it weren't the toast.
Okay, that's a good question.
It's a good, because, you know, Kendall had a very popular episode with Jay Shetty.
I feel like that was really good for Kendall's brand.
People got to know her, but she's very like into therapy.
I feel feel like that was a good match for her.
I wouldn't recommend Jay Shetty.
No.
Kylie.
The thing is, like, I can't think of anybody but us.
Like, I'm being dead serious.
But let me actually think.
Let me look at the charts.
Like, who?
You know what would be a good episode, even though I still think she should come here first?
Joe Rogan.
Like, I knew you were going to say that, and I actually disagree.
Really?
Because I feel like it would just be, it wouldn't be so inside baseball.
First of all, it'd be three hours, not one hour.
And it would be like more zoomed out than like.
But I feel like Joe Rogan is one of the people and I respect him immensely, but like, I feel like he doesn't respect the kardashians like he doesn't understand it like we have been there seriously since season one like yeah
i mean it should be us it has to be sisters like for real like who by the way seriously sisters sound off in the comments because i'm open to being wrong who better than us to do an hour-long like ex not expose like in-depth conversation with kylie jenner to really let people know like who she is and what she's about Unless it would be a podcast that like we haven't heard of, but it's one of her close friends who has that podcast.
Like Stas had a podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's exactly what it it would be.
Because I'm looking through the top podcasts, like Theo Vaughn, no, Conan O'Brien, no,
Ben Shapiro, Megan Kelly, like, no, no, Smartless.
So, I was actually gonna suggest Smartless, but fun fact to Emmy, I talk about them all the time.
I've never listened to an episode, I don't actually know what they do over there.
Well, we only know from their documentary what they do, like they do shtick, right?
Yeah, like are the interviews in depth.
I actually don't know, armchair expert,
yeah, yeah, actually, yeah,
that's it.
But I still think
we're more.
It's like if she went on Armchair Expert, would we even watch?
No, but you also have to think about the people who listen to these podcasts.
Like, those are, like, I feel like people who tune into Armchair, like people who think they're so intellectual and like probably hate the Kardashians.
Yeah.
Like, if you want to come.
But actually, that's the audience you kind of want to talk to because you would be doing that to change hearts and minds.
But I don't think she gives a rip about changing hearts and minds.
I don't think so either.
I think she wants to go somewhere that's comfortable where she doesn't have to constantly keep proving herself because she's proven.
Yeah.
The proof is there.
The proof is there.
Okay.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
Speaking of someone who's misunderstood.
Me?
No, we're always speaking of you.
So true.
And are you misunderstood?
I feel like you're extremely clear.
We hear from you over an hour a day.
So funny, actually.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
Like on a really serious note, I feel like maybe a few years ago, one of my biggest gripes with like my life was I really felt misunderstood, like
And I actually feel like right now, like in this moment and for the last maybe year, like people really, like, I don't know what I've done differently, but like people get me now.
You feel understood.
That's a good feeling.
I really do, actually.
I feel a little misunderstood.
Explain.
I feel like for the people who like really listen to the show and pay attention, I feel understood by them.
But I feel like people who are like listening with half an ear, who, and those aren't even the people I care to be understood by the people.
You're like haters.
Oh, I mean, of course, a hater misunderstand me because there's nothing to hate.
Yes.
Oh my God.
So fucking true.
I love that.
Because if they understood me, like they would love me.
That's, by the way, that's how I've always felt.
Yeah.
I'm like, if you guys knew me, like, you wouldn't hate me.
Like, I always say, like, if I met one of my haters, they would leave.
But if they're so rotten to the core, I actually think that if they under, if they, like, could, they couldn't understand.
That's the problem.
They're so rotten, they can't understand something so good.
And you know, I don't want those people to understand me.
No, I'm too good for them.
Okay.
Well, someone who's misunderstood, or at least at one point was.
Amanda Knox.
There will be a limited series on Hulu about her.
And guess who's playing Miss Amanda Knox?
Let me think.
Emma Roberts.
No.
Wait, let me think.
How old?
How old was Amanda Knox?
Is it like now or like back in the day?
Oh, wow.
She was 16.
I think
someone young, but not 16.
This person.
No, of course not.
Yeah.
Like someone like 21, probably, right?
25?
Yeah.
Oh, let me think.
I could probably give you clues.
Please.
I feel like you've actually never seen her lead in anything, but she's a very good, serious actress.
Okay.
Technically a Nepo baby.
Love.
And in the world of your favorite person.
Taylor Trev's friend.
Technically a Nepo baby.
Who?
Margaret Qualy.
Okay, I saw Maid, first of all.
You did?
Yeah, I loved it.
Second of all, love this casting to death.
To death.
And I feel like it's actually going to make you watch the Amandax story, which I know you don't know her story because I cite it all the time and you don't know it.
I actually had this thought yesterday in real life that I wanted to share how they're so randomly, and I forget what example I was thinking about, they're so randomly like pop culture phenomena that I like do not give a fuck about.
Amanda Dox is one of them.
And there was something else that I was thinking about yesterday that everybody talks about all the time.
And I literally like don't even know what people are talking about.
Yeah.
Also, one other factoid about this project is that it will be produced by Monica Lewinsky.
Hmm.
Another misunderstood woman.
Connect the dots for me.
I don't.
Well, maybe because, you know, I guess the dots connected would be like misunderstood women
peak of national attention.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Young girls, like bullying to no extent.
It's a little different with.
No, I more so meant like what qualifications does one Monica Lewinsky have to, you know, do production?
That's all I was saying.
Like, how is she involved in Hollywood now?
Oh,
what does she do?
I don't know.
I know she's like a spokesperson and she always had that reformation campaign, but since that fateful day in the Oval Office, how has Monica Lewinsky made a living?
Just like off of being a public figure?
I don't know.
And
there was American True Story.
Okay, that was like five years ago.
Did she produce on that?
Maybe.
And that's like where she got her, you know.
But also, as we know, being a producer kind of just means like lending support.
Most of the time, being a producer is like a title in name only.
There are actual producers, and a big job of producing is to like raise money for the film and be like this sort of like overseer special liaison.
But a lot of times like when you see like, oh, she produced it, like it's just something they give you so you can make more money.
Yeah.
Or it's like good for the PR for the show.
Like this is another talking point for the show.
Not saying that's the only reason, but like producer, they're not really doing the heavy lifting.
No, there's a really like enormous difference between a producer and an executive producer.
Like executive producers are out here producing.
And there's also a big difference between like producer and director.
Oh, of course, you know.
No, I just did not know that.
I just assumed like producer meant something, and it's just something to say, like, it doesn't always mean something, it could sometimes.
You know, where I learned that where entrage.
They were like, Oh, they like made Eric a producer, and he was like this moron who had literally only his last job was in a pizza place, like he had no clue how to run anything.
And it's literally just in name only, yeah.
Huh,
interesting, yeah.
So, that's an exciting bit of content that should be around soon.
What is a part of like pop culture history or current like things that people are obsessed with that you seriously like have no clue about tiger king
for me?
I feel like that was that was a trend.
People still are like Tiger King's in jail and he commented on
Chloe Karashian's picture.
Like
sorry, those people are losers.
I mean like cool people.
Well,
if it's cool, I'm in it.
And it's week in the facts today.
And if I chose not to participate, like it wasn't cool enough for me.
For a reason.
But not for me.
You probably didn't make this a story, but did you see that Chelsea and Jimmy from Love is Green?
Oh, it's a story.
Oh, sorry.
Of course, it's a story.
Is it the next one?
It probably should be.
Oh, wait, no, sorry.
It shouldn't be.
It's actually not the next story, and it's not going to be because I want to, that will bring.
some levity to the end of the show.
So we have a sad story next.
Not a sad, but a serious.
Yeah.
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the Rust Armorer has been
found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the accidental shooting.
So her name is Hannah Guterres-Reed.
She's the armorer on the ill-fated Western film Rust.
She was convicted on Wednesday of involuntary manslaughter in the death of the film's cinematographer.
The jurors returned a verdict after less than three hours of deliberations on Wednesday afternoon following two weeks of testimony about safety lapses on set.
She was acquitted of a separate charge of tampering.
Excuse me.
I lost my
tampering with evidence.
She faces up to 18 months in prison at
sentencing, which will be sometime in April, will be her sentencing.
This story, the whole thing, gives me such a terrible pit.
And there's literally, and I don't know who it is, and it's so frustrating because it's kind of like this mystery.
And a lot of people are like, Alec Baldwin,
one person was responsible for real bullets being on the set of this fake ass movie.
Yeah.
Who the fuck is that?
That's all I want to know.
And why?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And everybody else can say what they want.
And a lot of people are mad like Alec Baldwin got nothing.
But to my understanding, and Alec Baldwin, I feel like accidentally killing someone is so horrible.
I don't think he was responsible for bringing a live bullet.
Who was?
Yeah.
True.
Alec Baldwin will have his day in court in the next few months.
And so I was reading something about how this bodes for him.
And they're saying, like, this is bad for him, you know, because now they're getting convictions and they're getting guilty verdicts.
But I actually feel the opposite.
I feel like because this person has been found guilty, it's like blame can be laid on them.
And how many people can be accused of involuntary manslaughter unless they were working together?
Unless it's this conspiracy to kill this young mother.
What could she possibly?
Right.
I feel like because someone, they found fault with someone, they don't need to find fault with everyone.
It's such a pit.
It's, I, every, I like, I don't think about this often, but when I do and I sit back and just think, I can't believe it.
Yeah.
And how, because it was like a police investigation and there's so much police body camera footage, like how much footage we have of Alec Baldwin.
Like, there's literally, there's a video of him finding out that she succumbed to her wounds and that she passed away.
What about the fact that the whole thing is on camera?
Because they were filming a movie.
Oh my god, by the way, so true.
I wonder if they use that in the trial.
Trial, for sure.
Yeah, it's really,
it's really upsetting.
And I'm not like the biggest fan of Alec Baldwin, but I imagine.
And I think the way him and more specifically his wife acted in like the coming days was so disrespectful and
tacky, classless.
But I do, I don't, I don't think he was trying to kill this woman.
I don't think he was responsible for bullets.
And I imagine it is, and I think he's like a deeply disturbed person.
I imagine this
is immensely challenging to have dealt with.
Yeah, I don't think he meant to kill this woman.
That's why it would be involuntary manslaughter.
But I also don't think, I don't know how movie sets work, but it's not on the actor to make sure that it's not a real gun.
One, they have someone hired
an armorer, but they also have like props managers.
Like there's a million people like, who would think for one second this is a real gun?
We're on a set.
You would never think for one second that it's a real gun, but it's really also important to keep in mind that this was an independent film, like films with no money.
So they probably didn't have like a million armorer prop managers like real movies do.
Having said that, there's still no reason for a real bullet to be.
Right.
And also having said that, like if you can't afford to have proper safety precautions on your set, then you shouldn't be making movies with guns.
Okay, wait.
Also, might be a dumb question.
So it was a real bullet.
But was it a real gun?
Like, why are they using real guns on movies?
Why shouldn't they?
I guess they were using guns.
They're using real guns with fake bullets that just like that, so they'll sound authentic.
This is my guess.
Okay, it's called iMovie.
Like, you can add a sound effect.
That is so dumb to me.
I didn't even put that together.
Shouldn't the gun have been fake too?
Yeah.
Like a prop, you can make anything.
I actually follow this prop manager on TikTok.
She's like always showing like cool things in the prop room.
You can make anything.
Yeah.
Also the argument the other team's lawyer was arguing that this armor was responsible for bringing the live rounds to set and that she never properly rattle tested them to ensure they were dummies.
So she brought them.
So where did she get them?
Well she's a.
They brought the gun to a shooting range, like we're shooting real bullets, and then brought that gun to set and used it.
And didn't switch it out.
And they didn't switch it out.
That's insane.
That's so like negligent.
Negligent.
Yeah.
You're obviously like an incapable person.
I don't know how you've been holding a job all these years.
Yeah, and such a serious one at that.
Pittsville, USA, this whole story.
Right, which is why are you ready for our fifth and final story now?
I am till I change up the energy.
That's why it's our fifth and final story.
Love is blind.
Jimmy and Chelsea spark reconciliation rumors with a Florida getaway.
So Jimmy and Chelsea were spotted at the same restaurant in Florida yesterday.
They were seemingly in town to attend a wedding for Chelsea's friend in the Fort Lauderdale area.
She said, coming for my best friend's wedding at Ms.
P, 86, can't wait to squeeze you.
So she took a picture from a restaurant, geotagged the restaurant.
Jimmy took another picture from the restaurant, geotagged the restaurant.
And also someone in the restaurant has footage of them at the same table.
But the thing is, they weren't being...
They were being like
both.
It was being fake stealth.
Like, oh, we're going to
launch.
Geotagging the same exact location.
Like, sometimes the internet sleuths can put together that your picture and her picture are at the same place because there's the same fork on the floor.
But literally, geotagging, they wanted people to know this.
They wanted people to know.
So here's my question: Are they just being thirsty, like capitalizing on the moment?
Totally understand.
Maybe they're good friends and she needed a date.
If they are, you know, back together, these two continue to endlessly confuse me.
I could have sworn, I would have bet my life that Jimmy hated this bitch.
Like, that he hated.
Run as fast as he can.
He would never look back.
I don't even know what to say.
I'm so confused.
Like, deadass.
Yeah.
And to be there for a wedding is not a big deal.
Unless they have a mutual friend.
But even if they did, why are they dining together?
Imagine if after all of this, like they're one of two couples that are still together.
Oh, then also I saw somebody had a video of Clay and AD together.
They were with a bunch of people, but they were like in the same apartment.
Like looked like they were like drinking and partying.
Oh, okay.
I support them dating.
I think they were a good match.
Me too.
And that's what he said.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just remembered who I wanted to do for Queenie and Weenie of the Week, and I'm excited.
Oh, that's exciting.
Yeah, now it's time.
But any other Love is Blind Thoughts?
We have the reunion coming up.
No, we need the reunion.
I need to know about Jimmy and Chelsea.
I need to know about like Jimmy, Chelsea, and Jess.
I need to see Jess.
I was just having a friend of mine who's like not really into pop culture or TV, has fallen down the love is blind rabbit hole because everyone was talking about it.
And then went back and watched like a million seasons.
And he called me, he just like had questions about like, you know, this person, that person.
And he was like, how did Nicki Vanessa get this job?
And I'm like, I'm so glad you asked because it's like one of the most interesting things in the world.
They.
Obviously signed up for this random hosting gig, not knowing it was going to become like a cultural phenomenon.
And it's literally a dream for two, like, they're working actors.
They're not people who have ever been able to like just rest on their laurels in terms of money or fame this is probably like i bet they go to bed every night and like thank god for this job yeah no a lot of and by the way what do they work one day a year it's literally they're never in the show yeah a lot of celebrities host all the time there are a million shows like this they're a dime a dozen
yeah they they struck gold i'm happy for them they need to it's probably like a dream gig too it's like so little work and so much attention so much and i bet they're i bet they're paid handsomely too yeah
um okay it is time for our final segment of the week we're gonna miss you guys so much it's queenie and weenie of the week where jackie and i award two awards queenie of the week and weenie of the week somebody who acted like a queen this week and should be applauded and somebody that acted like a weenie this week who deserves to be shamed yeah jax you want to kick us off with weenie Oh, I guess my weenie of the week is JVN.
Me too.
So fun.
Yeah, I mean, big loser energy.
I'm sorry.
Like, to build a brand off of kindness and raking so much money and fame from it and to actually end up being like a dick, not cool, JVN.
Not cool.
Agreed.
Who's your queenie?
My queenie.
I feel like I had.
Also, I did want to give an honorable mention to Weenie of the Week, to everyone involved in the Noah Cyrus, Tish Cyrus, Dominic Purcell saga, because that is not even weenie behavior.
It's incest behavior, but it deserves a mention here.
Yeah.
My queenie of the week is Romeo for being a precious sweet angel to come into his mommy's life and sweep everyone off their feet with his cuteness and handsome demeanor.
Thank you.
That's very sweet.
My queenie of the week is similar, Luanne de Lesseps.
I just love this woman and I love that she never gives up on love.
You know, it's actually inspiring for me.
She's a hopeless romantic.
She's a hopeless romantic.
She's going to get married to seven husbands of Luanne de Le Saps.
Like she's going to get married until it works.
And I actually feel like, I know I sound crazy.
This is the the one.
I mean, she definitely called the paparazzi on them, too.
And I feel like that actually would put him off because he's like an extremely wealthy person and they don't like that.
But if you can get past that, it's who she is.
Like, you have to know who you're marrying.
I feel like this could be like the one.
Agree, but I also feel like if he valued privacy so much, he wouldn't even dare date a celebrity.
That's true.
And this isn't the first.
Yeah.
Twice.
So he's like one of those that's like, okay, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Showing a little leg.
No, don't take my picture.
Oh, geez.
So, yeah, I feel like she's the queenie of many of my weeks, but this week in particular, like when I saw that picture, it really brought me immense joy.
Like, I really love this woman.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah.
So, that's our show.
That's our week.
Four-day work week for us.
Still felt long.
It's a grind.
It's a grind, you guys.
And I hope everybody grinded their best.
Hope everybody enjoys the weekend, has a blessed time with friends, family, loved ones, pets, et cetera.
And that's our show, right?
That's all we got for you.
Yep.
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