Love Is Blind Sandwich: Thursday, February 22nd, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

It's Thursday.

Yay.

Thursday.

Thursday, yay.

Yeah, everyone's all about Friday, which that was like a dark time for millennial culture.

But what about Thursday?

Yeah, every

yay.

Every day is a yay when you're with your sister.

No,

that, yes.

But every day is a yay when you're alive.

Wow, you're going to go so far as to say that.

I am.

I'm feeling hopeful today.

Hopeful for what?

That I might get this trip that I'm trying to plan in like one day off the ground.

It was really difficult, you know.

Ben is being like a diva.

Looks like I have a job.

I'm like, okay, and like.

Yes.

And no, your wife is trying to plan like a last-minute getaway for,

you know, to the gods, to St.

Bart's.

And like, you're being like whiny about it.

Yeah.

No, he's too busy for St.

Bart's, but I'm here on the other side pushing you to go.

Jackie's been very, very influential in my decision.

I won't let her give up.

I was just watching the Taylors.

I feel like I didn't even talk about this on the main show.

I talked about it on Patreon.

There it all goes down.

Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donahue have been in St.

Bart's for like a month and it's just like, I'm so jealous.

And then I realized like I have free will.

I am a dink, dual income, no children, no kids, excuse me.

And like, I need to be taking advantage of that.

You know, I have disposable income and I have, you know, a flexible job and I have nothing really tying me down.

I mean, I've been here for two weeks.

Like, and it's just, it's not enough.

Like, I need to go even further south, you know?

Yeah.

So yeah, I might go to saint St.

bart's on wednesday even though like nobody told you like you need two million dollars to go to saint bart's like in a in a decent way i feel i'm not even looking like so luxe that could have been surmised yeah it's just like a little bit annoying but you know what like i'm investing in my happiness i'm investing in my future and it's fine and these are the days these where you can do things such as these things right right so that's just like kind of what i'm like i'm feeling like I'll know by the end of day today, like if this trip is happening.

And if I have anything to say about it, it will be happening.

I just need Ben to like shut the fuck up.

Like if he came to me and was like, I'm planning everything, just like cancel work for a few days.

I'd be like, done.

It's a dream.

Just shut up, pack your bag.

I'm like, I'm planning everything.

Like, I'm making it happen.

And, and by the way, I'm planning it in such a fabulous way where it's like, we'll have some sexy alone time, but we also have friends there.

And what I'm surmising is St.

Bart's is the type of place you want to go with friends.

It's like very fun.

So I'm like, I couldn't have done this more perfectly.

Yeah.

The tailors are open to extending their trip to spend a few days with us.

Like everybody's working around the clock and Ben's just like, oh, you have to work.

Like, shut up.

And it's like, we all have to work, but we're going to move things around.

We're going to figure it out.

We're going to do audio-only episodes, perhaps, or maybe cancel a few shows.

Yeah, I might cancel a few shows.

Here's the thing.

And I'm sure people are like, Jax, you're so supportive that you always are pushing turdy together.

I have my own two motives.

First motive is that if she goes next week to St.

Bart's, it means she's staying in Florida until next week.

Well, actually, Ben doesn't like that idea either.

Ben's like, let's go home and get our stuff.

So Ben has to go.

You know, Ben is honestly, because if it weren't, by the way, if it were not for Ben, I would be in St.

Bart's today.

I was planning on leaving today.

First of all, and he can't even relate to you because you don't need to go home and get your stuff.

I have stuff for you.

What if you wore all new stuff?

You like, you can go shopping in my closet.

Fabulous.

And I said, Ben, I'm like, we can go to the mall.

We're not in the middle of nowhere.

Like, what do you need?

Three bathing suits?

Like, you're a man.

His sister can go and send things from your apartment.

I said, I'm like, we can have someone go get our passports.

And he's like, I don't want people rifling through my underwear.

I'm like, okay, that I actually do.

Why is your password with your underwear?

It's not actually, it's with my makeup.

Beautiful.

So it's just like, he is not down to like live on the edge.

And he's just acting like, he's not acting like he's a 30-year-old with no children and, you know,

and disposable.

He's just not acting like, he's acting like a grandpa and he's giving ball and chain energy.

And he's kind of dragging me down because by the way, it's just so important.

If there, if there was no Ben, I would be in St.

Barnes right now.

I was planning on leaving today and he was like, that's crazy.

Let's go next week.

And I'm like, okay.

So I had to push my trip back a week.

Like I would be on my way.

So Ben and I were aligned on going next weekend weekend because the second part of why this is in my best interest is because next weekend I am going away for a few days.

And so the toast was going to be like a little rinky dink.

Rinky dink, either audio only or maybe even one day with a guest and like one day canceled.

But if Claudia and I are both off, we can just like properly take off those days, like both vacate and then come back and do it together as opposed to being rinky dink.

So like just get into your heads that there might not be a toast Thursday, Friday, and Monday next week.

Like just prepare yourselves.

But you know what?

There will be.

New merch and Patreon.

Yeah, of course.

I'm not worried about the girls on Patreon, but like if everybody could just like message Ben and be like, embrace your inner dink, that would be great.

You think that would help?

What would help?

Maybe like I should, we should have like a really crazy day with the kids of like maybe give them red 40 and have them with the boys.

We want to have them be wild in so much so that Ben will be like, wow, if we don't go to St.

Bart's now, we never will.

No, that's not going to do anything for Ben.

You really don't think so?

I don't know what.

You won't get like understand like the ink of dink.

He is pissing me off.

Like, he's pissing me off.

Like, I wish somebody would be like, listen, I planned everything.

I mean, it's a dream.

It's literally like one of your books.

He doesn't even know how lucky he was.

Like, pack your bags and go to St.

Bart's.

It's like I'm being like annoying and crazy.

He's like, well, why don't we go somewhere closer?

I'm like, first of all, like, I've already planned everything.

So shut up.

Two, like, I want to go to St.

Bart's.

Like,

period.

It's not far.

I mean, it's not close.

Like, we could just take a direct flight from here to like Turks and Geicos, Puerto Rico.

Yeah.

We do have to take like a little rinky-dink submarine to get there but like whatever i feel they i feel like if anyone would have a hang-up about that it'd be you not him he's he's fine with all that and don't worry like i found the best company it's like a private charter like i have handled things and he's like just such maybe just like me and you should go jackie let's leave today like i the thing is and it's like i keep seeing these pictures and i don't know if it's is it like the time of year where everybody's on vacation

Everyone I know is somewhere.

Weekend.

No, but like right now in this, like everyone is somewhere and I'm not.

Well, you are in Florida, but still you're working.

We're sitting here working working harder than I've ever worked before literally.

So it's just like it's sick.

I hate Ben because I would be in St.

Bart's right now if it weren't for Ben and I should have never gotten married.

Damn turdy.

Yeah, I said it

He's being every time I bring it up.

He's like like I'm being so annoying.

I'm like

but first of all like literally why don't like I'll just go stay with the tailors.

They would love to have me.

I'll sleep on the couch.

Like

he's being honestly bringing Ben makes the trip more expensive.

Like totally fuck it.

You have to work.

I mean go work.

Oh, I'll be in St.

Bart's.

Don't at me.

Don't look for me.

You can't find me.

You should go regardless.

I'll go tomorrow.

Like if it were up to me.

No, no, no, no, that doesn't work.

See, that doesn't work.

For your schedule, yeah.

We're in us.

Next week works for me.

Like, I don't know.

Ben needs a real, like,

it's disappointing.

That's all I'll say.

We'll work on him today.

He needs to do better.

He's like, not even excited about it.

I feel like I'm dragging him to St.

Bart's, like, an ungrateful toddler.

No, he's real problems.

That's just kind of what's going on in my life.

Yeah.

So that's why I feel hopeful.

Like I do feel like this trip will happen.

Like I really do.

I feel like if you want something to happen, it's go, it will happen.

Yeah.

I think where we've been, though, is like you haven't made up your mind yet.

No, no, I want to go, but it definitely like is a lot of money.

I didn't realize it's like a different type of

of island.

It's not like, and I love to travel and there are places that are more expensive.

This is like notorious.

Like my friend texted me.

He was like, you will have the best time.

You spend $5,000 a day.

Every lunch is $375 a person.

Like, it's just this place that's like known to be expensive.

So I need to wrap my head around like the money of it all.

Maybe like take a bread deal I wouldn't normally take just like pay for the trip.

Like get on cameo?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like, I feel good about it.

I feel good about it.

Should I start to go fund me?

Do you guys feel bad for me?

The thing is, is that you guys, like, this life that I live, like, I make it look easy and I make it look fun.

And it's just, it's not as easy as it looks.

I think you should get on cameo and fund your trip.

Done.

Like, the thing is, it's like, whatever.

What is money you know it's a social construct it's it's not no it is we have this conversation like once a year about social contracts about money

if is money a social contract well yes money is a social contract

but the value and like because even if we didn't have money like we would barter there is inherent value in goods and services goods yeah goods and services you know and it's like everything in like saint bart's is like in a euro And so I'm like, okay, so if it's like five Euros, it's like $2.

No, it's more.

Yeah.

I always think Euros Euros to dollars.

I'm like, okay, so five to five.

Like, no, not, not these days.

Like, it's more.

Yeah.

So between like the currency exchange and just like living the Vita Loca and my annoying ass husband, like I was just kind of good.

I mean, went through it today, you guys.

And I don't, I'm not saying this for sympathy, even though you should feel bad for me.

I'm just saying I want you to know, like, my life, like, it's hard.

It's harder than it looks.

Exactly.

Like,

thank you for opening up, Tardy.

You know, that's what we do here on the show.

We talk about difficult things, you know?

That's what we do.

Yeah.

I feel like maybe I should just like take charge, like get Ben's stuff sent here and just like he can fuck all the way off.

I know.

Make it happen.

Yeah.

We're going to make it happen.

We're also going to make happen an amazing show.

An amazing show, because especially if you're going, like, we need to leave them

feeling good.

Yeah, satiated.

Satiated.

We got to satiate that palette.

So it's kind of like our, you know,

Thursday episode.

Yeah.

And what is it giving?

It's giving random ass.

Oh, the stories.

Swear jar.

Put a coin in the swear jar.

It's giving random ass.

Random ass.

But I love that for us.

I love that too.

How about your morning?

Like, I'm just feeling like I'm wearing a pink sweater.

You're wearing my pink sweater.

Yeah, and I'm wearing my jeans again.

I feel like everyone's, it's just kind of been like the undercurrent of this week's episodes.

It's like Claudia wearing jeans every day.

You know what?

I have a thought.

About jeans.

You can't try on your jeans.

Right now?

No, no.

Okay, like in general.

Take them.

Like, I have.

I'm going to try them on after.

Yeah.

I bought three pairs.

If you watch the vlog on our Patreon, I bought three pairs of Abercrombie jeans.

They're all different.

Two light wash, one like a charcoal.

One has a rip in one knee.

The other has a rip in two knees.

The other, no rips.

And these, I think, are my favorite ones.

I've been wearing them.

I've worn them three times now.

I don't know the name and I know that's not helpful to anyone.

It's in the vlog on the video.

It's in the blog.com.

And it's on my LTK too, but it's just kind of crazy this renaissance I'm having with jeans.

And they're also like not that uncomfortable.

no you look cozy i feel fine i'm wearing a boy's lie set super cozy i almost wore that set in white today like thank god how embarrassing without a bag why we're so cute when we're twins

yeah no it's been a busy morning we did um doctor's appointments this morning two years and six months and it was a busy night And it was a busy night.

I really didn't get a lot of sleep.

So forgive me for anything that happens.

But I'm talking about like, what were you doing before you went to sleep?

Love is blind.

What did you get up to?

I got up to where you were when the new episodes episodes dropped.

Okay, so Jackie is the new episodes ahead of her.

That's actually like very good progress.

Okay.

I really, I watched as much as I could.

Then I stopped watching at like 11.45.

I tried to go to sleep.

And then Charlie woke up at 12.30.

We were up to like 1 something.

So like I said, I didn't get a lot of sleep.

But you did the best that you could.

I am fully caught up.

So Jax will be leaving at the end of the show.

And I'm going to do like a solo recap because I actually have some thoughts.

And I learned this morning.

That Laura, you know who that is?

Yeah.

Is she a toaster?

Yep.

I got major toaster energy from her.

She's kind of the star of like the thought, the next three episodes.

Like it really, it becomes like it's Laura says this.

She says, me, you know, like it becomes that Laura.

Up until this point, everything that she said, I've thoroughly enjoyed.

And I was getting just like toaster queen energy from her.

Yeah.

So confirmed this poker this morning.

Beautiful.

So I'll recap those three episodes where they return from the honeymoons.

Aren't the honeymoons the best episodes?

They are, but things just like went downhill so fast.

And you can really tell like how much everyone's drinking.

And I just feel like that's a recipe for disaster.

You know what's so funny this was the first time i've watched the show where i really realized that and thought that a lot of the people in the pods and on the honeymoons like were drunk for like a great portion of the of the experiment you also said that matthew had put out a statement not a statement he like left an instagram comment he was getting like a lot of hate and matthew's like irrelevant now like right he's not on the show no but in the first like one or two episodes he was a main character and he was acting really weird and just kind of off and he did write a comment um because i guess he was receiving like a lot of backlash just being like a little bit of context that wasn't spoken about and maybe could help color why you guys thought i was like acting so strange strange is because I live a sober life.

I don't drink and there's a lot of drinking.

That's why they have those gold cups.

That's what they're known for.

Right.

A lot of people didn't know and they, and I spoke to, I spoke about it in the pods.

He said, but it was never aired that he lived a sober life.

And so that's just.

can give a little context as to why you maybe thought he was like acting strange or just like it's a piece of the puzzle that we didn't know and they should have shared that.

But this was the first season I've watched where I'm like, damn, there's like a lot of alcohol on the show.

Yeah.

And when everyone's drinking like charged up meeting for the first time, this party is just like getting really weird fast and the thing is because I'm not caught up I can't like read what other people are saying so I don't know if like things that I'm thinking are

so like AD's flirting with everyone.

Yeah.

Oh, that's funny.

I didn't take it that way.

I thought like everybody was just kind of taken by AD.

They were but like when she was talking to Jimmy.

That was a flirty conversation.

She was being flirty.

Your thoughts on all the other couples.

And then of course the big thing that I was talking about was like the reveal with it was really painful, the Jimmy Chelsea reveal.

So my thoughts on the couples, I feel like the ones that we didn't see that much of in the pods are the strongest.

Like

Laura and Jeremy.

They were like, when they were on their honeymoon, I was like, these two people are perfect together.

But now all of a sudden, like Sarah and till 5 a.m.

in the preview.

No, but also like beamed it.

Oh, but that's weird.

Drunk.

Yeah, drunk.

That's true.

It's true.

That's drunk.

Like fighting.

People like not one, understanding social cues and two, like taking things in a way that's just like drunk, stupid behavior that wouldn't happen if people weren't drinking.

Yeah.

But yeah, that was really dumb.

Yeah.

It was just like weird.

Weird, because weird things happen when you're drinking a lot with people that you all used to date each other.

What do you think about Clay and AD as a couple?

So I thought that they were so solid and so well matched.

But then this is why I thought when AD was talking to Jimmy, she was like, Clay's a lot.

Like I didn't, I knew he was going to be a lot, but when I would go into the pod, it was a lot for a moment and then I left the pod.

But now I'm saying a lot all the time.

And she was kind of, I felt like she was saying, like,

you know, opening the the door for like, it's not the greatest because she was like making eyes at Jimmy.

Can I say one thing that like is like a little bit of a spoiler, but like really not of anything important.

I've been, it's like the vibes have been spoiled with like Megan Fox and everything.

So it's just something small.

There's a lot of conversations between Clay and AD in these first three episodes.

And he acts so bizarre in like half the scenes and his like eyes are bulging and it feels like he just took an Adderall and he goes on like these crazy tangents.

And it's just like, I look up and I'm like, we're still watching this conversation.

He's just like all over the place.

And then she has a conversation with one of the guys and is like, yeah, when I was with Clay in the pods, like he either talks a lot or not at all.

And like people are just like commenting on his behavior.

And I really feel like he's on Adderall.

Very possible.

Like, because he's just like so chatty, so high speed.

And then like random tangents.

And I was wondering if anybody else was noticing this like incredibly bizarre behavior.

And I think that's what she meant when she was like, he's a lot.

It's like a lot of monologues.

Oh, and I also feel like he has a lot of confidence, you know, his, say, his ego.

And it's like the Clay show all the time.

So yeah that is a lot he's like one of those alpha males the way she was saying it to jimmy was just you know in a way like hey the gyms aren't perfect there are over here yeah

also

um

what clay said to her about like you know the way the gym has happened a huge conversation death like oh my god that was really crazy really like that's what me and ben said when we recapped a few days ago we were like with clay And Ben actually said this and it's so true.

Clay is like actively going through therapy and like growing up in this process.

And it's kind of confusing, but it's endearing sometimes.

But then he'll say something that takes you back, like the wait thing.

Goodbye.

Like it just undoes all the goodwill he he earned.

Yeah.

And it's like, if you're actively going through therapy and bettering yourself, like that's not the perfect time to go on a reality show.

To enter a relationship.

Enter into a marriage.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But overall, like I think he seems sweet.

And yeah, aside from that conversation, but he also seems like he learns, he understands pretty quickly when he's like wrong for

so oh what are your thoughts on johnny and amy

blonde

blonde man long hair and amy brunette puerto rican yeah so they're like a couple that we didn't see too much of in the pods but seem really solid in the honeymoon stage like i think that he's really into her she's into him not as much but growing she's trepidacious yeah and It seems like he's not her usual type, but he's

like an attractive person.

So she's just like learning to become attractive to something new yeah yeah okay so i have a lot of thoughts i will put them at the end of this episode when jackie leaves and then of course the oh the reveal no no just like the couple of the season the name on everybody's list jimmy and chelsea the reveal was really really really strange i'm finding the reveal i actually felt like was okay

i'm finding like the honeymoon really hard to watch because she's so insecure and like on the one hand he's saying everything that a person that's in love with you should be saying, like, I love you.

I'm the happiest person here.

I feel 100%.

And I feel like there's a part of me that like doesn't believe him.

Of course, I feel what I'm saying.

But that's also because like I know Jess.

So when I watched the honeymoon episodes,

the discourse online was like, Chelsea's insecurity is ruining this relationship.

And yes, while that could be true, how I perceived it was like, he's saying all the right things.

She doesn't believe him.

We don't believe him.

I feel like he's lying and therefore gaslighting her.

Being like, no, what are you talking about?

Everything's fine the thing is her insecurity is ruining the relationship she does have like reason to be insecure because there's something missing from him

and i don't like would she have been this insecure with trevor no constantly being like you love me are you happy no because that's the thing you think of me about that like whole love square

trevor and chelsea were a perfect match Chelsea and Jimmy are not a perfect match.

But Jimmy then choosing Jess, they're not right for each other either.

No, I don't think Jimmy is mad enough, man enough for Jess.

I don't think there was really anyone on that cast that I currently know because there was a lot of guys they never introduced us to who would have been right for Jess.

Yeah.

But she is like obsessed with Jimmy.

And I think that continues to be a thread throughout the show.

So she's still obsessed with Jimmy, even though he didn't choose her.

Yeah.

Oh, that's, that's surprising because clean behavior.

What?

I feel clean behavior.

And he's so small compared to her.

Like she's wasn't out.

He was giving her nothing in the pods, but still she like made excuses for him and rolled with it and was patient with him and then he didn't choose her and i feel like she would be the type to be like well then you're a dumb piece of and the thing is i don't as jimmy is like whatever i just don't think he's who just deserves her needs in her life yeah i think like jimmy got screwed in a sense and i don't see jimmy as the villain in all this i think like he was really aware that this whole thing was being televised i think he probably would have chosen jess if she didn't have a kid but like that was something he was not into and i think there's nothing wrong with that like doesn't make you a bad person because you don't want to date someone with kids i just want to say that.

Um,

so in order to not look like a prick, he went with Chelsea to be like, Well, I did not choose Jess because of her kid.

I chose her.

I didn't choose her because I was in love with Chelsea.

Then he got himself into this other situation where he chose Chelsea.

He doesn't appear to be like really into her at all.

But then things change in the next three episodes that I will talk about at the end of this episode because now I feel more confused than ever.

Okay.

And also he got screwed again because he chose Chelsea thinking, okay, I'm going to choose the childless Megan Fox.

Right.

Right.

So that's the first six episodes recap.

If you're looking for the first nine episodes recap, it'll be at the end of today's episode.

And I will work overtime to finish watching

these episodes.

They were really good last night.

And honestly, like we, I watched with Ben and Zach, your husband and my husband, and Zach Shapiro too.

This applies to, they are obsessed with this show.

I've told you, it's my husband's favorite show on television.

I think Olivia and Shapiro put their kids down like early.

They were like, we got to get these kids to bed so we can watch on this show.

Well, last night was a big night for watching.

And I wanted to say, I feel like typically on Love is Blind when there's a love triangle or a square, everyone chooses like a person so that everybody gets engaged.

And then on the honeymoon stage, like these couples are like interfighting almost, like even with Jessica and Barnett and

Amber, like she did get with Mark and they were all in

the honeymoon stage.

The other people are not involved.

Usually all four make it to the next phase and then from there they can like switch around.

Yeah.

So it's, I would have loved for that to happen.

Right.

And what's interesting is how they all, and this isn't a spoiler, how like some of the people who had like, you know, lovers that they left behind, how they get in contact with them.

It's not like, there's not like an a I was surprised that one person who who connected with their ex, like she DM'd him on Instagram.

Well, that's not, it would be DM on Instagram.

Then they also have meetups.

So and they all like live in the same town and they now have mutual friends because it's like, think about Laura, who's a part of the group of couples is best friends in real life with Jess.

So I bet Jess could find Jimmy's Instagram from Laura's following.

We need to to have lunch with Jess and Laura.

Done.

I'm obsessed with them.

Well, they all live in Charlotte.

I was trying to figure out for the first couple of episodes what city they chose.

I like that they always choose the same city because it makes it realistic for the couples who get married.

And I like Charlotte.

I feel like Charlotte's, it's one of my favorite places.

And it's also like, I feel like everyone there is really normal.

So I think it was a good selection.

I also am just always interested to see where they end up living.

Like what is like the young married apartment building for young couples?

And it's like this cute, they do townhouses this year.

They did like a townhouse style kind of last year.

Yeah, what was last year?

No.

When, in when they were in PNW.

Remember?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And also, I want to say, like, the city is reflective of the crop of people you get.

And people, I'm sorry.

And I know we have toasters in like the Seattle, Pacific Northwest.

And I'm sure you're like cool and normal.

But the general like gist of like culture of people in that region is like freaks.

Like, you know, it's like very like, no offense.

It's chaz, right?

It's lawlessness.

It's purple.

Like, it's very like, woo.

So we got freaks when we were in Portland slash Seattle.

Sorry.

We did.

And I, what I remarked when I went to Charlotte was everyone was cool as fuck.

Like, I really like Charlotte.

Very normal people.

And actually, so far, everybody seems to be like kind of normal.

And when you go to their houses, nobody lives like a freak.

Like, everybody had like normal houses, normal jobs.

I was like, okay.

Like, it was even normal.

I also feel like it's a religious crop.

Oh, I don't.

It's, I don't think so.

Oh, really?

I feel like there's a lot of talk about God.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I thought you meant Charlotte is a religious.

Oh, no, I mean, in this, there's a couple, like, no, just Brittany and Ken.

No, but

there was a couple people who have like just talked about like God's role.

I feel like that's like

God.

I feel like that's like what everyday people like who are like religious, not even religious, just like people who believe in God.

Like, I feel like we're always like, people are always talking about God, low-key.

Like, that doesn't make you like religious.

I mean, he's like the biggest thing.

Capital H-I-F.

Kind of his biggest scandal of all.

Totally.

What about as big as OJ?

Kind of.

Kind of.

So all is that to say, I think the season is so good because I think the city they choose really matters.

Like when they did Atlanta, which I think was the first season ever,

Lauren Speed, like we got good people.

Atlanta's like a cool place.

The place really matters.

They've done Chicago.

They've done Dallas.

Did they?

Yes, they did.

And that I feel like was a good season, too.

Cause I feel like just chill, normal people live in Dallas.

Yeah.

Was that

Bartisse?

I don't know if I watched it, actually, because I don't know.

Yeah.

All is that to say, Charlotte was a very good choice, I think.

I love Charlotte.

Yeah.

So it's, it's been great.

So I think we should dive in because we still have five stories and then my, you know, not an episode.

Your follow-up recap.

Yeah.

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Our first story: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are reunited in Australia.

They enjoy a day out meeting koalas at the Sydney Zoo.

I like how Taylor went to the zoo like the day before Travis arrived and obviously loved it so much that the minute he arrived, she was like, Travis, we have to go to the zoo.

That's so crazy to me.

Cause when I saw him when she was at the zoo, I was like, really?

Oh, really?

I feel like that's what Australia is like known for.

Koalas and shit.

And that guy.

Steve Irwin.

Yeah, like I feel like animals is their like their thing.

Yeah, maybe I haven't been to a great zoo recently because I was was like, wow,

that's like,

who would go to the zoo?

No, no.

I think the Sidney Zoo is like a big thing.

Okay.

Like I, I feel what you're saying, but I, I, I think you're right.

And then to like go again.

Yeah.

But then when I saw she went again, I was like, oh, she loves the zoo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, she must have loved it.

It's like the whole koala thing.

Also, you just reminded me of something.

First of all, I'm just like waiting for, you know, PETA to comfort Taylor for going to a zoo because like, you know.

animals in cages, et cetera.

For sure, but I'm sure she found the most ethical zoo.

Yeah.

Okay.

You just reminded me, I saw, and I meant to bring this up on the toast.

I saw PETA's TikTok.

They were talking about like their latest, you know, stunt.

They like do these crazy things.

And they were boycotting Hallmark.

I actually need to find it.

It was so crazy, Jackie.

And I'm going to give you a million guesses as to why they were boycotting Hallmark.

Like, what did Hallmark do?

Okay, could be like an animal on the set.

Okay.

No.

You're thinking Hallmark channel.

Hallmark greeting card?

Yes.

Okay.

What could Hallmark greeting cards?

Maybe they wrote an offensive poem.

Okay.

You're almost there.

Ready?

Mm-hmm.

So

Hallmark has stopped selling cards that demean chimpanzees.

Excuse me.

Yeah.

According to PETA, they have put pressure for years, including calls and emails from over 50,000 supporters.

Chimpanzees may face extinction due to habitat loss and the illegal trade, and clownish portrayals of them can mislead consumers into thinking that the species is thriving when they are in fact not.

So take action for exploited primates at PETA.org.

Like insanity.

So why are they exploited and not thriving?

I think like you put chimpanzee on a Hallmark card and I don't know.

Honestly, I'm not sure.

No, no, but no, no.

Like the thing is, it sounds like the issue is that the chimpanzees are actually facing extinction.

Like there's actually like an issue with the chimpanzees.

So what's causing the issue?

Right.

It's not Hallmark.

No, no, no.

Hallmark is like portraying that chimpanzees are fine when when they're not fine, but like let's tackle the reasons why they're not fine.

No, it's a good point.

Like you like when I saw that, I was like, oh my Jackie's right.

Like they're always barking up the wrong tree and like getting pun intended.

Working, working on the worst causes.

Like that was, I was shocked.

And they like dumped a ton of bananas outside the Hallmark

headquarters dressed up as humanities.

Like first of all, that's a waste of bananas.

No, that's seriously insane.

On a list of 1 million things that are offensive to animals,

it wouldn't make the 1 millionth list.

So you just reminded me, thank you, for the zoo.

Well, this would make the top of the list because Taylor Swift loved the visitor of the zoo so much on Wednesday that she couldn't help but take Travis with her to see the animals herself.

The lovers received holding hands as they got up close and personal with Australian wildlife during a private tour of the park.

Okay, I guess the zoo's a little more fun when it's a private tour.

Yeah, and like you don't have to wait in line to hold a koala.

And like you probably have like your own photographer, so you don't need to like get the, you know, pay $100 should the zoo photographer for still an ugly like pale photo of you, you know, with

a koala.

But you do it.

The story here is that travis is in australia now that he went to the zoo um

and i had read that taylor like sent her jet back for him it's such a long flight he stopped over in hawaii i think he spent the night in hawaii and then flew to australia i mean he he's done working she's been like supporting him this whole time so it only makes sense that the inverse would occur but it is just like a really long flight for her he flew commercial or non-taylor air to hawaii

uh i no i think he flew taylor air to hawaii why wouldn't taylor air take him all the way I think you need to stop and refuel.

But she has like a Concord.

A Gulf, yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like I read that her, she has like a Bombardier.

Bombardier.

There's no

Bombardier.

I read that it flies faster than you think it flies.

And that's why people can't really track her.

Oh, yeah.

She's like zipping through.

Love, love, love.

So I feel like he went to Hawaii Delta.

Oh, wow.

Actually, if he was on Delta, people would have seen him.

I think he caught a ride with a friend.

Okay.

Or he charted his own plane.

He's rich as well.

And to to go to Kansas City, Hawaii, it's probably like 50 grand.

I'm sorry, but those millions, like, they're dwindling.

He paid for the suite.

Yeah.

He literally has like 20 million a year.

No, but he's made so much more.

We, we, we went into his finances.

We know he did very well this year.

Yeah.

I guess he could afford a flight from Kansas City to Hawaii.

For sure.

And then Taylor Ayer picked him up.

Yeah.

Perhaps.

Cute.

Yeah.

Why didn't he just go with her?

I guess he had probably a lot of like work commitments post-Super Bowl, like interviews, team stuff.

And now he's like officially off for the season.

Yeah.

So that's exciting.

I'm sure he'll like probably go with her like for a while.

The first show that he's going to be at, what's today?

Is it today or tomorrow?

I can't figure out what to do.

Well, like today is tomorrow and over there.

It's happening soon.

So we'll get like trab footage at the concert, which is my favorite footage.

The zoo is home to more than 4,000 animals, including koalas, kangaroos, and wallabies.

Yeah, I saw an aerial footage of 4,000 hugging

a kangaroo.

Cute.

That's what I mean by like Australia being known for their animals.

They have like a lot of wildlife.

It's not like the Central Park Zoo.

You've seen it once, you've seen it all.

Yeah.

And it's like they're animals that I think are, what's the word?

Indigenous.

Is it weird to use indigenous on animals?

No, because that's the meaning of the word.

Native.

That's indigenous.

Okay, they're native to like the...

Indigenous to the land.

Indigenous to the land.

Whereas like, why is a polar bear in the middle of Manhattan at the Central Park Zoo?

I don't think he's there anymore, but he was for a while and it was like really dumb.

Yeah.

PETA.

PETA, PETA.

Like, I have a cause for you.

That's also something I've learned about being an ant That's been actually really challenging for me.

And I'm, I think, you know, when, God willing, one day I become a mother, I'm going to have to struggle with it as well.

Like, even a couple of weeks ago, like, no, a couple of days ago, I took Michaela to like some sort of zoo and it was like fucking sad.

She was loving it.

So I'm like, I'm putting my morals aside for the children.

And that's not the first time that it's happened.

I did take with Liv.

her kids to Lion Country Safari, which of all the zoos I've been to, that one was like kind of nice.

I actually think the animals there live a nice life.

They're like out to pasture.

They're not caged.

Yeah, and this new place that we went to a few days ago, it said that this was like a sanctuary and these birds were rescued.

But then I was reading about this bird that's like indigenous to South Africa.

I'm like, and what is he doing in Florida?

Like, it just made no sense.

Like, I didn't like it.

I'm sorry.

But I do it for the kids.

Oh, she had such a blast.

There also aren't any like massive animals there.

No, it's like bunnies, goats.

It's really not bad.

Yeah.

So I was attacked by a goat actually at that facility, but I don't want to talk about my trauma today.

Classic turdy.

So yeah, we'll keep keep up on their globe trotting ways.

It'll be an exciting weekend for content for you.

Yeah, there's going to be a lot of footage.

Yeah.

And our next story is another Kelsey bit of news.

Oh, yeah.

Because, no, it's not what you think.

Kylie Kelsey has made her debut at Milan Fashion Week.

Now, like, this is a brand taking the temperature on the culture.

Like, whatever PR company, American PR company, was responsible for getting her there, like, this is brilliant.

But how did they get her there?

I don't know.

Like, you wouldn't think, like, Kylie Kelsey Fashion Week, but the name on everybody's lips this year, like, is the Kelseys.

Right, but to Milan Fashion Week?

Like, that's just shocking.

The brand was who, Alberta Ferredi.

Yep.

It was her first ever fashion show in general, and it was in Milan.

Like, you want to start in New York?

Yeah, I mean, like, obviously that would have made more sense, but I'm sorry.

I love.

Like, I just know an American, honestly, probably like a toaster, an American publicist was responsible for this.

Love.

I love.

I'm just so surprised because this is a scrupled woman.

Yeah, yeah, who can't be.

She won't even wear a Chiefs shirt when her brother-in-law is in the Super Bowl.

She will only wear Eagles.

That's why she wore a red shirt.

Yeah, no, I know.

But what does that have to do with Alberta Ferretti?

Like, I don't know.

I just feel like she's so scrupled is what I mean.

So to be at like fashion week, which is just like a bunch of nonsense.

No, she's so scrupled.

And like, if I found myself like married to Jason Kelsey in the last year and like all this stuff happened, the Kelsey ball, Taylor, like I would do the exact opposite of

everything Kylie Kelsey has has done.

She is, you're right, so principled, so scrupled, so low-key, so not thirsty.

Like, couldn't beat me.

Right.

So she's so low-key, so not thirsty.

There's a million things that she could do.

And instead, she goes to Milan Fashion Week.

Which I actually feel like is not that surprising.

You know, it's, it's the most surprising thing to me.

On a list of 1 million things, I think Kylie Kelsey would do it.

We would not be on the 1 millionth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It actually.

It's a sleigh.

She's a fashion queen.

Obsession.

The fashion world needs her.

Yeah, no, and she is the moment.

Like, this was a win for the brand.

Yeah.

I feel like when it comes to fashion week, like, we ain't ever talking about Alberta Ferretti.

Like, that's just not the name on everybody's lips.

Now it is.

Yeah.

And some more Kelsey news that I think you thought I was going to say was that Jason Kelsey did a 5K.

Jason Kelsey ran a 5K, like a local 5K to raise money for autism.

And everybody's just praising him.

And I'm focused on the fact that when I saw him running, his time was 43 minutes, which like is what we did.

We are professional athletes.

We're not.

I actually think like in like Jason Kelsey probably doesn't run a lot.

Like he's really strong, but his job is to block.

So he's big, hard to run.

I don't think that he, like, in his training is running miles.

By the way, I also think he was raising money for a cause.

Like, there's no,

it's not great to zip through the race.

Like, you want to milk the thing, say hi, shake hands, kiss babies.

Yeah.

That's going to take up time.

Even if he could have sprinted the whole thing, I don't think that he would have.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like the longer he takes, the more awareness he's drawing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Love.

So that's the latest fashion news.

Love from the fascists.

Are you ready for our next story?

I am because, you know, I kind of have to pee.

I kind of need a lot of things.

I definitely need lunch.

Oh, what's that?

I actually have lunch plans.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

I have a friend in town, so sorry.

Like, you're on your own for lunch.

So that's fine because I have cigar meals, but like, we're not going to see if I wanted to come.

Oh, my God.

You are so welcome.

Okay.

Am I?

Oh, beyond.

I think we're also going to play pickleball.

Like, would that be of interest to you?

I have a lot to do today.

You go.

I just figured, like, taking the afternoon off to like lounge around with me and my friends was like, not something like even in the cards.

Like, you know, you're always invited.

No, no, it's not in the cards.

And I know I'm always invited, but then I wasn't invited.

I'm like, I wonder if I'm even invited.

By the way,

I'll show you the text.

He was like, does Jax want to come?

I'm like, no.

Okay, cool, cool, cool.

I always,

always, you know.

No, I know.

If I figured if you wanted to come, you just like get in the car.

Like, I'm taking your car.

Oh, you're taking mine?

I don't know.

It's like the non-Tesla car available.

I like, I hate the Tesla.

Yeah.

But I do want to like cruise up.

Like, yeah, just me and my Tesla.

Yeah.

No offense, like not like in your mom car.

Yeah.

Well, no, you could take the other car because if Zach needs a car, he could take my car.

Yeah.

But like, maybe I will take the Tesla.

Without me, you won't know what to do.

How do you turn the AC on?

So true.

Okay.

Our next story.

What number?

Three.

Okay.

Machine Gun Kelly admits he had a breakdown before getting a blackout tattoo

to two in his new song, Don't Let Me Go.

So the rapper has released a heartbreaking new ballad titled Don't Let Me Go on Wednesday, one day after going viral for posting photos of his torso, arms, and chest covered in fresh blackout tattoos.

Fans went wild over the designs, many wondering what he meant with his Instagram saying that it was for spiritual purposes only.

So I'm not really interested in all at his song.

I had requested this story because if you haven't seen, please Google a photo of Machine Gun Kelly's new tattoo.

I don't even know if you can call it a tattoo.

I've seen blackout tattoos where people have like part of their wrists just like covered in black, like a couple inches.

His hands, arms up to his shoulder, chest boobs, and other arms like are entirely black, like just solid.

Chest to under his breast and then to his wrists on his arms.

And I know that blackout tattoos are a thing.

I've seen them in very small doses.

And getting three limbs like covered in black, like

is it not offensive?

Is it black?

Black chest.

Like

that's like literally changing your skin tone.

Yeah.

It's like the opposite.

It's like the Michael Jackson antithesis.

Yeah.

Or that baseball player.

Who do we say?

Remember?

He dyed his skin white.

Sammy Sosa.

Oh, did he?

Yeah, yeah.

It's like

the weirdest thing ever.

I never heard that about him.

So, like, it's giving that, no?

Like, opposite.

It's giving black chest.

It's giving black arm.

Like, what?

Yeah.

Is this not offensive?

Are people...

Saying that you've got your finger on the pulse.

Yeah, Sammy Sosa.

Okay.

This is what Sammy Sosa looks like.

Like, OG.

That's what he looks like now.

Machine Gunny Knight.

By the way, we talked about it on the toast.

No, I've never seen that before.

In the Long Island City studio, we did.

I remember.

I remember it didn't stick with Sammy.

Because I remember saying, like,

this is weird.

Like, one of his friends and family is say, like, you're just white.

Yeah.

And he was, like, he's Dominican.

And, yeah, so that's what he looks like.

Like, very much, like what, that's what Michael Jackson did.

Like, yeah.

I don't know if it's bleach.

Like you dye your skin tone.

It's like one of the most socially off things to do.

It's just like weird as fuck.

And I don't think Machine Gun Kelly was trying to do, but like an unintended consequence of this tattoo is like half of his skin is a different color.

Right.

And is that not

tone deaf?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't, and also painful, question mark.

That, I think, is one of the tattoos you have to like take anesthesia, anesthesia.

Really?

Anesthetic for.

I don't think he did.

I feel like he's so hard he wouldn't.

Right.

He like drinks his own blood.

Imagine if his friends knew he took anesthesia to get a tattoo.

Embarrassing.

Embarrassado.

I don't think he did it.

I think he suffered i don't i don't like it's insane really and it's hour it's probably something that had to be done in like different

stages

geez ouch and by the way that's all i have outline of the tattoo like the parts where it's not colored in it's a cross right so there's obviously that's what he was saying in his song the spiritual element it's just really crazy is he religious i don't know and speaking of mgk

you had texted me this and a lot of people want megan fox to respond i mean everybody right now in the world is talking about megan fox i know and she's not even a part of it no exactly and by the way she's not like a deeply private she's like a thirsty person she's always in the news like

what can she say

she should leave a comment and just being like i see it that's what she should say yeah

or like post like a side by side like something like it would first of all i think it would really um

Like alleviate a lot of like the mean spirited things that are definitely being thrown at Chelsea in this moment.

it would be you know it would be a humanizing moment for megan fox like i think it would be a w for everyone yeah except jimmy

why what did jimmy do wrong in the situation he didn't he didn't he didn't like seriously like she shot herself in the foot chelsea she did and she made this the reveal something that it didn't need to be it's true because unless it is megan fox walking through the door even if it you're look you're like prettier like if you're not megan fox and you say that i'm megan fox like it's disappointment you need to be the most beautiful person yeah no no i agree i agree like she should she should get involved like i think it would be good pr for her yeah well yeah she should capitalize on the moment yes because her name is in every headline right are you ready for our next story and she definitely knows about it what story number is it number four i think the question is are you ready for our next story jax because i know you have someone as such let her deloue i have to let you know that today's episode is brought to you by kiden lane which is my absolute favorite brand for baby clothes.

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Well, our next story is some throwback news because Misha Barton has admitted that she and the OC co-star Ben McKenzie secretly dated during season one of the OC.

And I know you're watching the OC right now.

I've actually stopped

because we came here.

And then the TV in your room has a Roku, in your guest room, has a Roku.

And the only app that doesn't work is Max.

It's fine.

Oh, yeah.

I don't.

Since the rebrand, I don't want to watch.

I don't want to watch.

Ben is really enjoying it because it's his first time watching it.

For me, it's a show that actually is not good the second time around, mostly because of Misha.

Her character is...

So annoying and then like pissing me off.

Having said that, I think her journey with fame is actually really interesting.

Has she written a book?

No.

She should.

She should.

So the last I heard from Misha was when she was on the hills.

And I loved her so much.

And I found her to be so smart and wise.

Level-headed.

She wasn't on the next season.

And it was like, I needed more of her.

She should do like a full tour.

And she probably should have saved going on this podcast for like, because she should have done a big memoir and then done all this press.

I think think it could be like what is she doing press for nothing like just just telling her story yeah

so I feel like she should really write a book because she obviously like for anyone who was alive during that time and like was witnessing the Misha Barton extravaganza like it was crazy it was unprecedented it was the biggest show of all time there was obviously a lot going on behind the scenes then she had a really complicated relationship with fame she actually spoke a lot about how um on the hills about how at the time where she was getting so famous like the biggest you know media media outlet was perez hilton and he literally bullied her into like suicidal thoughts and he was just awful to her um so there's just like a lot a part of her journey and she talks about it in this podcast too and i think like a a book would probably be huge for her yeah like i mean she's also incredibly smart like i i think it would be really insightful yeah

so i don't know why she hasn't done a book I don't know.

I think she's just getting her bearings, you know, like just trying to like live a happy, peaceful life.

Yeah.

So now knowing that Ryan and Marissa dated in real life.

Well, it's important to keep in mind she says that they like dated secretly.

She lost her virginity to him.

She was 17.

He was 25.

What I was going to say.

That's like gross.

But is it gross on also like the casting?

It's like a good point.

They were having to kiss for work.

It's actually like facts.

They wouldn't know each other.

It's not like he sought her out as a 17-year-old.

Like they were already being romantic.

that's like actually such a good point like how is that not like against the law it really should be to have a minor if it wouldn't be a legal relationship it shouldn't be one just ethically you know like yeah but also forcing majors and minors to kiss majors and minors to kiss it's like a really good point yeah like where's the accountability on the casting director and like

So at that point, it's like, and I don't know if Ben McKenzie went on to date younger girls.

That's not something that I think is true about ben mckenzie went on to impregnate an another co-star in gotham i think she's actually older than him and they like got married and like settled down i think they're still together yeah so like this isn't a beget ben mckenzie like trend gross thing that he did like the girl that he was paired up with no it's by other people to make out with yeah that he fell in love with and by the way is misha like she's so so stunning

um Another thing that she spoke about on the podcast that I thought was interesting was, you know, she, spoiler alert, if you've never seen the show, so just hang on, okay.

She is, you know, killed off the show.

And they talk on the podcast about like the decision behind that.

Like, was that your decision?

She kind of like alluded to the fact that like there was a lot of tension between her team and the show.

She was really hot, like not physically.

like industry industry and there were all these opportunities that she could not do stan lee was writing like a comic book series for her she could not do any of it because she was tied down to the show and that is how it works but there was a lot of tension tension between her team.

And I think that she was very isolated from the cast and she wasn't like friends with people.

And so when it came time, the show needed a shake up, it was like very clear that it was going to be her.

So she wasn't like kicked off the show, but she was let go because of like the circumstances in which she found herself.

It wasn't like this, like she, she got, she had, she had to go.

I always thought she wanted to go.

That's she made it seem like she didn't, but I don't think she was unhappy that they let her go.

I don't know if that's a narrative that was out there.

Like I felt like, and clearly this isn't true, but the way that I saw it was like she didn't want to do the show anymore.

But maybe if she had all those opportunities, maybe that's not untrue.

Like, yeah, she wanted to go do other things.

I think they probably both, like, I think they wanted to be rid of her.

Like, I think she was

difficult to work with, her team.

And I think she was probably happy to be let go from the show that like gave her the fame.

She was huge, A-list.

And then she had all these opportunities waiting for her.

And then what happened?

I think she had, and this is why we need a book.

Like, because what happened to Misha Barton after the OC?

Nothing.

I think she had a, the way that I perceived it is like she had some sort of breakdown.

The fame, like, it was too much.

She was, I don't know.

I don't know.

I guess that would be in this episode.

Or the book.

But is it in the episode?

I don't know.

I didn't watch it.

Sorry.

So

maybe I will, now, now I want to hear more.

Me too.

She needs a book.

Yeah, I was, but I was in the middle, not to be a traitor.

I was in the middle of good guys.

Are we going to come up with a name for Amisha's book?

Amisha's Memoirs?

Mishwars.

No.

Memoirs of Amisha?

Memoirs of Amisha, like actually is pretty good.

But something like Misha memoir, something maybe like OC, like...

Yeah, like something

iconic from the OC.

That she said.

What did she say?

A whole lot of annoying ass shit.

She was always just like running headfirst into danger, like recklessly.

Yeah.

And drunk.

Drunk.

Yeah.

Well, are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Yeah.

Switching gears to something that is plaguing the nation right now, which is that nationwide cell phone outages are preventing most calls, some even emergency calls.

So it started with ATT, but it's a lot of networks now are down.

Verizon and T-Mobile are also suffering service issues.

I have not been affected.

Have you?

I have not been affected yet.

Like I only know about the story because I read about it, not because I experienced it.

Yeah.

And like, this is weird.

Yeah.

It's just like,

what do you think?

It's giving like nefarious actors?

Do I think it's giving bad faith actors?

No, I think it's giving incompetence.

And I just think like when you're at the helm of multi-billion dollar companies such as Verizon and AT ⁇ T and your service is so integral to day day-to-day life like do better yeah

but how i don't know why would more than one if like like just one party is being dumb, then it's giving why is it affecting the others?

It's giving like

hacker.

Yeah.

I mean, the thing is, is like what I've learned just by being like a

conscious adult is like my data is not private.

Like every, like every

tech

device service that I use is like constantly failing me.

And I think this is just emblematic of that.

You think they're in it for your data, this one, this, this outage?

No, no, but I think maybe there was a hacker who stole my data like in this, even though like I haven't really been affected.

So maybe I wasn't like a part of the hack.

Like maybe they didn't steal my, maybe my information is not interesting to them, even though I'm like incredibly interesting.

Like I don't want to tempt them or anything, but like if you're going to steal someone's information, like let it be mine.

I'm so fascinating.

You think that yours is worth stealing?

I mean, who's stealing it?

If it's somebody who's really into gossip, then yeah, like there's a lot.

in my phone that you're gonna be interested in.

If you're looking for like nudes, I'm not your girl.

Oh, no.

Or if you're looking for government secrets, also not your girl.

Not your girl.

But if you're looking for like interesting things to talk about with your friends, like my phone.

Using for tea.

Yeah, my phone is chock full of tea.

So I guess it just depends who's doing the hacking.

Yeah, what their intentions are.

And the fact that they didn't choose me, like they're obviously looking for government secrets and I don't have that.

It's giving government secrets.

You hate to see it.

Absolutely.

You need like a password journal.

Literally.

Those password journals like that people, well, not even people, sorry, Margo Ashray had growing up were so insane.

Like, and Margo was so crazy, you guys, about her password journal.

We, I didn't have one.

Like, it was just Margo, right?

Right.

But I think a password journal isn't, is a nice thing.

Yeah.

For a six-year-old, it's like, what are you hiding?

She wasn't six.

What was she?

10?

12.

So the password journal.

It's not about hiding, but I think having at that age something for yourself, as long as like.

No, it had like a secret compartment in it too.

It was really crazy.

Like, I feel like kids were hiding crack in there.

Like, I really do.

I would love to know now.

And I actually don't even think she would tell us.

That's how personal it was.

Like, what the hell Margo was saying?

I think it was her thoughts and feelings.

So it was one of those voice-activated ones where like you could only open it.

The journal would not open unless it was Margo's voice saying the password.

So I forget what her, I don't even know what her password was, but it was probably like sneeches, you know, and sneaches.

And then it would open and we would like always try to crack into it.

And maybe that's why she needed it because we were so goddamn annoying.

But we were only annoying because she was so crazy about it.

Yeah.

And then in the back of the journal, there was this other secret compartment.

I think that had a key where you could put physical things in, like crack.

We'll ask her what was in the physical things.

Maybe now she would tell us the contents of the journal.

No, I don't think she would.

But it was so protected.

We never got in there.

Cia

the CIA couldn't have gotten in there.

Like, that's how crazy she was.

And she would hide it in like different parts of the house.

Yeah.

Maybe she needs to join the CIA.

But like that was like a crazy moment in time.

Yeah.

Sweet sneaky.

But you're also something about Turdy.

She's anti-journaling.

I'm actually not.

You're not.

You were at one point.

Okay, well, I think journaling is circumstantial.

First of all, I'm not anti-journaling, actually, at all.

I just feel like a lot of people use journals to like mask like mental illnesses and like rage issues.

And they also, I think they use it as like a weapon against like, well, I can't, I'm not a bad person.

I journal.

A weapon against self-improvement.

Yeah, right.

No.

And it's like, I actually think there could be more conducive ways for certain people.

I think journaling is circumstantial.

I think there could be more, you know, productive ways for certain people to improve themselves that have nothing to do with journaling.

And I think a lot of people use journaling as a band-aid.

That's what I'll say.

Interesting.

But not everyone.

And actually, like a close friend of mine who recently like went through a lot was journaling and like telling me about how it, you know, really helped them and then actually asked me to read the journal to strengthen our bond, like about what they were.

And it was immense, like it was actually beautiful.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

I'll tell you about it later.

And I'm sure you were so excited to read someone's journal.

Well, so what happened was, let me tell you, we were on a trip together and I went to their room to like have a drink before we went and their journal was out.

I was like, oh, I didn't know you journal.

And they're like, yeah, because they had recently went through something and they were like, I have found it to be immensely helpful.

I'm like, that's so great.

And I really wasn't being judgmental because actually this is the type of person who I think would be really circumstantially helped, could be helped by journaling.

And they're like, actually, like, I think you should read it.

And I'm like, really?

Like me, I'm dying.

So I'm like, I'm like trying not to say anything to ruin it and change our minds.

I'm like, okay, like, sure, sure, sure.

And just like a certain portion.

Um,

and I actually thought like it was beautiful.

And it was, it brought you together.

Well, I felt very

honored.

Like, I would not let, if I actually had a journal where I put like my true, true deep, dark thoughts, like about everyone else.

Never, I wouldn't even let God read that.

Never.

I couldn't even put it down.

Like, it's too personal for even the journal to see.

Agreed.

No, no.

Making my crazy ass thoughts tangible is never gonna happen yeah like i would be lying to my journal but speaking of and it's actually a perfect segue to your final recap but when jess gave jimmy the letter to her future husband yeah i feel like he shouldn't have opened it yeah and that's when he should have been like i'm not

before i do this well he could even have said like i don't feel comfortable opening this until I've made my decision to to read that.

And also at that point, like he knew he had a daughter.

He knew Megan Cox was in the other room.

Like he knew it wasn't going to be her to read that.

It wasn't for you.

Agreed.

Now, yeah, agreed.

Okay.

So you can go.

Love you.

Bye.

Miss you guys.

Don't have too much fun without me.

Bruno, stay or go.

Should I stay or should I go?

No, no, no.

Bye, Brunello.

Love you.

Don't go far, Jax.

I'm going to go try on your jeans.

Oh, yeah.

They're in the

Abercrombie shopping bag.

They're not hard to find.

Okay.

So the three remaining episodes were so good by Jax.

So good.

And I really want to start out talking about Johnny and Amy, who I feel like have been like a sleeper couple.

They're like so uninteresting, but this particular episode was fucking weird because it's like, um, hi, Johnny, have you ever heard of a condom?

And like, I hate that he's like making this whole big thing about her not being on birth control.

Like it's a choice.

Like I've never been on birth control.

Like, I feel like he, and he kept saying like, it's not on the woman, but like him making such a big deal about it.

It's like, well, you're.

like kind of making it seem like it's Amy's fault and that's why you don't like want to have sex with her.

Also, like I understand like being safe and not having sex until you figure out birth control.

And there are these things like called condoms, and I don't know why he's refusing to talk about it.

And like, he's going to get a vasectomy before he puts on a condom.

But, like, I feel like he's so afraid of having kids.

Like, okay, you're technically engaged to this person.

Like, is it the worst thing in the world if you guys have a kid?

Like, he seems so afraid of it that I'm like, what is going on here?

Like, there's one thing to be safe.

It's another to be like petrified.

And that's what I feel.

So, I actually thought their meeting of the families when his sisters came over was actually really cute.

And I enjoyed that.

And I can't get a read on whether she likes him or not.

He definitely likes her.

But this was the first episode where I'm like,

I feel like maybe they won't get married.

This was the first episode where I'm like, I feel like none of these people are going to get married.

Because in the preview, it's clear that only three weddings are happening.

Chelsea.

Now, Zach Weinrib thinks that because in the preview, they only showed the bride, that Chelsea actually ends up having a wedding with Trevor, which I actually didn't think was a terrible idea.

Wait, who's the other?

Johnny and Amy.

We see her in a wedding dress.

And

A D and Clay.

So there's five couples remaining as of these last three episodes, actually only four because Ken and Brittany broke up.

And then I don't think Jeremy and Lauren have a wedding.

So that's three weddings.

And I actually feel like none of them are going to get married, which I don't think has ever happened, but would be interesting.

Now let's talk about Kenneth and Brittany breaking up.

That to me was

shocking, but he did get home from the honeymoon, like start acting weird.

Like, what the hell is he doing on his phone?

A lot.

Like, he's a middle school principal.

And then a whole conversation about him waking her up at one in the morning.

Like, you wake me up, you're dead.

And he was just kind of like gaslighting her and being like, well, you didn't want to be intimate with me when I woke you up at one in the morning when you had to wake up three hours later.

So I feel like you don't want to be intimate with me.

Now he actually was onto something because she did admit like she's struggling.

There's no like real craving for her to be intimate with him.

And she feels like that's a problem.

And I feel like it was actually a really healthy breakup.

I feel like he actually was done with her.

And then she, I think, was giving more of herself to the relationship than he was.

He kind of like gave up when they got back from the trip.

He was just like not into it anymore.

And like going out late at night and like being on your phone a lot, it was giving like shady behavior.

And I think it's probably best that they put it to bed.

But I did feel at one point like they were the strongest couple.

So now I'm like, oh, I don't know.

I don't really have faith in any of these couples.

So we're down to four.

The big moment was Queen Laura doing queen-like things.

Her conversation with Jeremy was so gorgeous.

I feel like she is a person I would never want to get into a fight with.

She seems like she's really good with words and she's like low-key manipulative, but in this situation, it was a good way because she let Jeremy just like dig his fucking grave about his location, where he was, what time, not knowing that she actually was watching his location the entire time.

It was perfect.

It was gorgeous.

I loved it.

And she annihilated him.

And like Sarah Ann is a bad faith actor.

And you know what?

Like she was onto something.

I thought she was being like a little dramatic in the beginning episodes about the DM, like him just liking it and like putting it to bed, acknowledging it.

Could he have handled it like a little bit better?

Yes, but I didn't think he did anything wrong.

But you know what?

A woman's intuition because she was onto something because he knew that Sarah Ann was going to be at the bar and he should have went home, but he didn't what did he do he hung out in the parking lot with her and then went somewhere until 5 a.m like

he knew when he was going to that bar that there was like gonna be you know oh my god

what are you doing

i mean jackie said that i could help you do love his bonny cast oh my god this is the second time i've been accosted oh my god you can't be on this show anymore the week so don't so don't the week that you screamed oh my god you scared the shit out of me

where were we where were you you i was talking about the conversation between laura and jerami

how she really handled it like a queen she like let him like lie lie lie and then said boom actually i watched your location the whole time look

anybody that spells jeremy with an a is a huge red flag agreed j-e-r-a-m-y what are you nuts agreed

He's a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

And I'm sorry, that's just no bueno, especially you're with, you can't spend more than two days being monogamous.

It's so true.

Such a red flag.

And this Laura Ann, she's...

By the way, I spoke to her this morning.

She's a toaster.

She's amazing.

Laura Ann.

Her conversation skills were actually like killer.

This Laura Ann.

I really want to eat it.

I was going to say she's a homewrecker, but if she's a toaster.

No, no, no.

Sorry, you're thinking of two.

You're Sarah Ann and Laura.

Sorry.

Okay.

Laura, the fiancé, is the toaster.

I haven't spoken to Sarah Ann.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Oh.

Okay, yeah.

So what I was going to say is Sarah Ann's a homewrecker.

Of course, she's a toaster.

By the way, that totally makes sense.

She was giving toaster energy.

Yeah, we thought we were.

We were looking at her up.

We were wondering, we're like, she kind of feels Jewish.

That feeling we were thinking Jewish, no, we were wrong.

Close.

Toaster.

Closer.

Cloaster.

Cloaster.

Now, the other thing I wanted to ask you about, did you hear Weinerab's theory?

No.

So in the previews, we see three weddings.

Can you sit?

In the previews, we see three weddings.

And one of them, we see Chelsea as a bride, but we don't see who the groom is.

And he thinks that it could be Trevor, not Jimmy.

By the way, that's like not like a good call.

Like, that's obvious.

Like, every trailer they've been showing us is her and Trevor talking and her screaming at Jimmy that he fucked Jess Jess so like that's not like a groundbreaking call.

Oh, okay.

You're just jealous because he made a good call like you did.

No, it's just not groundbreaking like I I totally agree like Chelsea and Jimmy are a mismatch.

Jimmy's been gaslighting us non-stop.

Of course, we're supposed to think now that Jimmy loves her, but everything that they're showing us is, oh, they're, they're showing us.

No, let's not talk about the preview because let's talk about how you and I were both really confused in these last three episodes because for the first time ever, actually, it kind of felt like Jimmy really was into Chelsea.

For sure.

They've been fucking a lot.

For sure.

He's like,

seems to be like happy.

And it feels incongruous with everything we've seen thus far.

Yeah.

It's, here's the issue.

Here's the main issue.

The main issue

is that.

I totally lost my train of thought with Bruno.

No, Bruno's pissing me off.

Okay, can you sit?

Yeah, he won't sit down.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

That's decent.

Do you already talk about Jimmy like bringing two girls?

No.

Oh my God.

Thank you for bringing that up.

Okay.

Jimmy's friends are two girls that he met with the last two years.

So the red flags were like the people that he wanted to introduce his fiancé to were both girls.

Like, you know, people can be friends, but like, it's weird.

And she was like, how long have you known them?

And he said, two years.

So it's like, is it, are those your only friends?

Are those possibly the only friends that wanted to be on TV?

Which could have been the case.

So we have to give them a little bit of grace.

But if those were like your only friends, no, you're right.

It's a red flag.

You're right.

Those were probably the two that were most eager to go on the show.

Yeah, It's possible.

You have to keep that in mind, but it was weird.

Yeah, it was a little weird.

Right.

Yeah, I don't know.

There's just like a lot of weirdness.

Like, I keep going back and forth where I think that Jimmy is doing absolutely everything that he can.

to convince Chelsea that she is loved and she just won't take it.

She was so annoying in these episodes.

In the first couple episodes.

Jimmy was so right that she was clingy.

Yes.

She couldn't have been clingy here.

When she was being insecure, like in Mexico, I actually thought like he was giving her reasons to be insecure.

Like she was coming off annoying, but her questions were valid.

Like he was saying one thing, but then doing another.

And in these episodes, I actually felt like he was more invested in the relationship than ever.

And she's still asking these questions and she was starting to piss me off.

He spent the whole day with her friends, but he didn't spend enough time with her that day?

No, and it's like, it was the same day.

She kept telling her friends.

And then she said to him, like, you haven't kissed me today.

You haven't kissed me today.

He's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry.

And then he said, wait.

Yes, I have.

Three times.

No, but even if he hadn't, you spent the whole day with his friends.

What do you want?

Yeah, no, and he's also, these people are back at work now.

A lot of them have like remote jobs.

Wait, also, haven't kissed me today.

Didn't they say that they had sex?

Totally.

What the hell?

No, like she, they're really confusing me.

No, like, just because she has a weird work schedule, the man has a nine to five.

It's very clear.

I was,

he worked.

He left in the morning.

He came back at night.

They were there at night.

They kissed at night.

He met the friend somehow in the middle of the day.

They had sex in the middle of the day.

By the way, his employer is really can't.

No, the timeline is like confusing.

I never know what we're watching.

You know, what day are these different days?

Because they go from couple to couple.

It It seemed like that was the same day.

A.D.

and Clay, A.D.

met his mom and they had this like really weird fight in front of his mom and sister.

The mom is a sage.

The sister was like asking very pointed questions, like kind of like felt like they were like attacking her, her line of work

because he's more busy than she is.

And it's like, he has his own business.

She works different hours and she's actually not back at work yet because she obviously took time off for the show.

And I don't know.

I felt like they were just like kind of like degrading her.

not degrading like demeaning belittling her work compared to him yeah and why are they having that fight in front of his mom and sister yeah um

i don't know because it's a tv show yeah yeah yeah but like uh i also i think that was the first time that she told us that she was a bottle girl yeah i knew she was a cheerleader i knew that she was a cheerleader but then we we now found out what she does no because it said her her job i think is realtor yeah she's a realtor and on the side on the side and i think she hopes to do real estate full-time and uh

VIP

bottle

service at night.

And

it's just interesting that she would be so...

Like, I remembered thinking,

why is she so upset that he didn't sleep home two out of the seven nights when he was just sleeping closer to his job and they only met like a week before?

But it's not unreasonable for her to want her fiancé to sleep at home.

And that's what I didn't.

Like, like his mom was just taking his side.

But like, she's not wrong.

Like, we're engaged.

Yes, they only just met, but they are engaged.

And your fiancé sleeps at home.

Sorry.

Yeah, but what if his job is far away?

You're allowed to travel for work.

Too bad.

I mean, too bad.

Too bad.

And I like AD.

This is just weird.

I want to do a prediction of who do you think gets married at this current point.

We have four couples remaining.

Who knows what's going on with Laura and Jerome?

I don't think they have a wedding.

But of the three, do you think, who do you think will get married?

Because I'm going to say, and I said this earlier, I think it's none, which has never happened.

I think that

Freakadique, what's his name?

Which one?

No, Freakadique.

Johnny.

Johnny and Blonde.

Amy.

Johnny and Amy, I think, get married.

And that's it.

And that's it.

And they're really on thin ice because like Amy's been giving out the entire time that her family just like gets so judgmental.

And like she's already given that out.

Traditional.

It's not my fault.

Oh, my dad won't let me.

I can't.

Right.

But they're the only ones that like really stand in a

chance.

But we could see others get married right like trevor and chelsea they're both hunting for love yeah right so they could maybe get married i don't think jess and jimmy will i think jess is like obsessed with the idea of jimmy she finally saw a picture of him she knows him personally she saw a picture of him he's like a normal looking person so she's like you know what like she thinks there's still a chance i think she's gonna meet him and be wholly disappointed i don't think they're a match I think that they could be a match.

I think that Jimmy's actually a really nice guy who really does deserve love.

And he's being dragged on this show.

They're not a match.

by an insecure woman they're not a match well i don't know if they're a match because i haven't seen them talk yet right but um so new episodes we have to wait a whole week it's such a good show and by that time jackie will be like fully caught up so you're you will be out of a job and i feel like you can't come on and recap love is blind without like some big drama happening no i mean that was unbelievable your screens these people don't even know like the blood curdling they know they have the toasters know like i'm very easily scared but like especially with podcasting like you cannot come up.

I cannot open the door slowly.

You should have knocked.

I cannot open the door slowly.

No, you can't.

Last night, Claudia asked, can you help me upstairs in the bedroom?

Not one minute later, did I come up into the bedroom?

All of a sudden, oh!

Oh, really?

I scared you.

You asked me to come there.

I don't even remember that.

You asked me to come into the room and I scared you.

I'm going to wrap up.

So just sit down.

Do not move your microphone because the table will fall over.

No, no, no.

The table will fall over.

You want me to leave?

No.

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