Those Crossed Eyes Are Bussin: Wednesday, December 6th, 2023

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day.

Hope everybody's having a blessed day.

Don't forget to hump someone you love today.

And there's no greater segue than that to the girl that I love.

There never is.

I can't believe it's Wednesday.

In some ways, it feels like a long week, and in some ways, it feels like a short week.

And I feel like the week is going by and I don't have enough time.

But on the other hand, I woke up today.

I'm like, it could be Thursday.

It really could be.

Maybe it should be.

Maybe if people cared, it would be Thursday.

Maybe if people cared about Thursday, you would know what it's like for you to wake up and it not be Thursday.

To me, it feels like Sunday because I have lived a thousand lives since we last spoke to you all on this podcast.

Mainly, I watched what is probably the most disturbing documentary I've ever seen.

Wow.

And I'm going to call someone out because I only heard about the documentary on Remy Bader's Instagram.

And Remy, the fact that I had to watch this, I blame you for.

You should be deplatformed for putting this out in the universe.

Okay.

Did she tell you to watch it?

Did she recommend it or she just mentioned it?

Just mentioned that it was wild.

And then I saw it somewhere else on TikTok.

I'm like, oh, this is clearly something people are talking about.

Let me watch it.

Now I watched it with Ben and Ben is mad at me.

So therefore, if A equals B and B equals C, Ben is also mad at Remy Bader.

He doesn't know it yet, but he is.

And let me, I just need to say that nobody should watch this documentary.

And people had said, Claudia, you're not going to believe the turn that it takes.

And I didn't.

I didn't believe the turn that it takes.

Now, I won't spoil it, but it's about this cult.

And it wasn't a very successful cult, but it was interesting because they were like, you know, digital.

They live streamed their entire day 24-7.

So there was so much footage.

And essentially, the cult leader, as all good cult leaders do believe, believed that she was God.

And

no, they were all doing drugs, you know, and drinking 24-7, non-stop for like 15 years.

And this you know mother god they called her this leader her real name was Amy she pretty much drunk herself to death

she also had anorexia and she was really like believed that the smaller the weight she was she would ascend higher to heaven you know making her lighter so we saw it's giving math we saw this woman Jackie for probably the last two years of her life drink herself to death.

And so all the footage, she's getting smaller and smaller.

She's getting more decrepit and more decrepit.

And because she's like very spiritual, she is not taking any medicine.

They don't believe in 3D doctors.

3D is what we would call reality.

And so she just drinks these tinctures of basically metal and she turns blue.

She's gray.

And then by the very end, she is blue.

And I was shook that, like, I mean, I guess that for most of it, she was still alive.

But like, I would say for like the last couple of weeks, she was like a dead person.

Like, but she had a pulse.

You know, she couldn't walk.

They were, she wasn't speaking.

They were putting her in the back.

This was what she wanted.

Yes.

To ascend.

To ascend.

To ascend.

I couldn't believe what I was watching.

Like, I will be haunted forever.

What's haunting about it?

Like, these are people, like nutty people making their own choices to be nutty.

What is haunted is the physical, the visual of someone who is so bones.

Okay.

Blue.

Blue.

Jackie.

She was blue.

I swear to God, it looked like paint.

She was blue.

And then when she actually died, her followers kept her body in a hotel room for a few days.

And they were like doing all this like electromagnetic.

They're like, look, she's stimulating energy.

And so we were just...

She's watching from all the metal.

Yes, that's a magnetic.

She was magnetic.

So they took these like devices up to her foot and they're like, look, it's going up.

I'm like, yes, she's literally a statue.

She's metal.

She's filled with metallic.

Then the hotel was getting suspicious.

So they took her body out into the woods and were like waiting for the ascension.

They thought this like, you know,

was it a nice hotel?

No,

no.

They didn't have a lot of money, but they were like doing a lot of live streams, selling that metal product, those tinctures to people, lots of products, you know, doing booking sessions for healing.

I will never in my life get that visual out of my head.

The documentary starts with a picture of this like alien body.

That's how the police discovered this this body and we're like I wonder where this alien comes into play and then slowly over time you realize like this woman who was like a normal looking blonde lady Then Brunette is the alien like becomes the alien Jackie me and Ben we could not believe what we were watching like it was farreak show at its finest It was all live streamed.

There was so much to unpack like the dr.

Phil of it all but

For me, like I and they had people who are a part of the cult in the documentary.

They're still very much but like Amy is God.

They were crying about her death.

They, you know, some of them went back to their normal lives, but some of them still.

There was this one lady who was so, this was just like what people weren't saying.

This was a group of mentally ill people.

And one of the people who was, in my opinion, the most brainwashed, she had showed up.

All these people like found Amy online.

Were they mentally ill when they arrived or they became mentally ill?

Both.

They were susceptible.

They were vulnerable.

Okay.

And, but they, they were all mentally ill.

Like it's like some of the stuff that they were saying, it was just beyond.

And this one woman, who I think was probably the most vulnerable, she, all these people found Amy online and Amy, you know, invited them to join.

So they all like lived in this cabin.

They were always moving.

And this one woman joined and brought her four kids.

And it was, it was a cracked end.

Like they were, they were, it's not like, okay, you want to be woo-eye-woo-y hippie, like sit in the grass, harmless.

But they were all doing drugs.

No, that's child abuse.

Yeah.

And the lady's mom did eventually come pick up the kids and she didn't see them for many years and she was like, it's really tough, but like this is what mother God wants.

She was like the most vulnerable and she's still like she was crying when she was telling the story about mother god dying.

Like it like

I don't I don't even know.

I don't even know.

Please do not watch this documentary.

Like it was really upsetting.

Well, it sounds like you kind of like gave away the ending anyway.

Like the alien is Amy and she goes blue.

And I just want to say that for me,

is that her name?

Is that the name of the documentary?

Blue Tadu.

I just want to say one of my takeaways from the documentary, and I don't think this was many takeaways for many people.

Like the people of Hawaii will not be fucked with.

Like, when she was dying, they were like, I got a call from the galactics.

Oh,

one of the core tenants of this cult is that like Robin Williams posthumously is a part of this cult.

He's one of the leaders.

He speaks to Mother God and Mother God tells him his message.

So they're like, Robin said we have to go to Hawaii.

Does Robin know, did Robin know he was a part of this cult or he's just kind of like someone that they've

you know, that's a good question because the the cult spans many years and I'm sure one of those years is when Robin Williams died.

Yeah.

Hmm.

I don't know.

They didn't bring it up.

But Robin Williams said we have to go to Hawaii.

So they take this woman who literally is blue, cannot walk, is skin and bones.

They can put her on a plane.

Okay.

They get to Hawaii and like the in Kauai, the local people start to figure out that there's this woman claiming she's God and they're very spiritual people

that they're all living in this house and then it becomes like a thing in the community.

People start protesting and then she really angers everyone by saying, I am, I'm sorry, I don't remember the name.

They have this god of nature or something.

It's really like a very powerful, important person in the Hawaii community.

And she says, I am her.

Oh my God.

Last few years.

They run this woman out of town.

They get her out.

Like no one has in Colorado, in Oregon, they've never been able to like crack.

The police know about her.

There's nothing they can do.

People of Hawaii got her out in weeks.

Like, do not fuck with the people of Hawaii, bitch.

Yeah.

It was so dumb.

Please don't watch it.

Wasn't gonna, never heard of it.

Certainly not tempted now, but

thanks for the synopsis.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

I'm not okay.

What was it called?

Love Has Won.

Because that was the name of their cult, LHW.

That's really a bad cult name.

Yeah.

That's how you know.

That's how you know.

I think the making of a good cult documentary is when they have former members

and who can really, who are now out of it and can see how nutty it was.

And there were only two people in the documentary who left the cult, but they still like spoke about it with reverence and like,

I don't know, it wasn't, they didn't go hard enough for me.

You know?

Yeah, because if everybody's still in the cult for the most part, and there's there's no one who's trying to get just, like, who needs justice here?

No one.

It's just kind of like a bunch of freaks doing their thing.

Yeah, I guess it was a victimless crime.

Yeah.

And so when no one's like, there's no actionable items.

No one's upset about what's going on.

Like the one person who died is the person who started it and she wanted to die.

She chose to.

It's hard to become moved to action when there's nothing to be done.

And like sometimes

you got to let your freak flag fly and everybody looks different.

They let their fleak, freak flag fly a little too close to the sun, though.

I feel like freak is one of those words that's going to get canceled soon.

Oh, interesting.

And so I've got to use it as much as I can.

Before it's the opposite, I have to stop so that they can't find old footage.

But before it's like, you know, part of the cancellation.

Freaky group.

Freak, freak, freak, freak for freak, freak.

That's a good call.

But no, sometimes freak is the best word.

I feel like freak was an integral word in our childhood.

It was.

Oh, she's a freak, freaky.

Like freak, I don't know if it was like a family thing or it was a cultural thing at the time.

Like when we were all, people our age, were you guys also like saying freak all the time?

And we need to make it make freak cool again.

Like we need to bring it back.

We do need to bring it back.

But then so many things would be canceled if it was canceled.

One, Freaky Friday, the movie.

That was a freaky film.

The song, but by Chris Brown, right?

I woke up in Chris Brown's body.

Oh, yeah.

I think that song is already canceled for different reasons, having nothing to do with the language, you know?

No, I don't think so.

All the celebrities were in the video yeah but now i think we all as a culture look back on that and to say why was kendall jenner in a chris brown music video right at least i do i thought it at the time because i'm better than everybody else also victorious

victorious freaks the freak out she did a double freak

what i'm gonna do now is freak the freak out the soundtrack of that incredibly dumb show had absolutely no business popping off in the way that it did.

There were so many songs.

No, and that's how I feel about a lot of Disney music, Nickelodeon music.

Like those songwriters, where are they now?

Who wrote The Climb?

And what have they done since?

I'll tell you.

That person is Beethoven.

Agreed.

The Beethoven of our time.

Even like Kenny Ortega.

He's still out there trying to get out of the way.

How come he never ascended?

Okay, it was written by someone named Jesse Alexander.

Okay.

She has had her songs recorded by Trisha Yearwood, Little Big Town.

She's very country.

Of course, that's why it's good.

A most recent

song,

I don't know many of these.

The Climb is definitely her biggest.

Her most recent song was for Midland.

Sunrise Tells the Story.

I should go and listen to all the songs that she's worked on.

I'm sure I would love them.

You should.

Oh.

Oh.

She wrote,

It sounds a little bit like my daddy.

I don't cuss around my mama.

Got some words he never heard, unless he come from down yonder.

That's by Morgan Walden.

That's a song.

That's, I think, maybe the only song I know of hers

besides all of these others.

And she's a woman?

Yes.

It's a

and grogynous name.

Yes, but only a woman could write a song as beautiful as the Klein-Lickferrell.

Agreed.

It's, it's from a woman's voice.

We have such a great show today because we have Deer Toasters.

We have an update from a somewhat recent one that kind of divided the community.

Okay.

We also have Time Person of the Year, which I really, and I have something insane to say.

We have a lot to break down from her first sit-down interview in four years.

Very long article.

Did you read the whole thing?

So I did read the whole thing.

Maybe I was almost at the bottom when I gave up, but I got the juice.

And I have something to say about the article.

So I'm ready to dive in.

Okay.

So without further ado, to do to do about someone who was a blue to do to do,

here are the fast eye stories that you need to know.

Mother God was giving Bluey.

Is Bluey blue?

Yes.

The dog.

Is it a dog?

It's a cartoon.

Like it's a little caricature.

No, but he's a dog, right?

I don't know.

I don't watch, but I know that he's blue.

I feel like I've watched more than you.

Bluey.

I watched it with Kayla.

He might be a blue dog.

Yeah, he's blue.

He's blue.

Confirmed, Bluey is blue.

Maybe he was inspired by Mother God herself.

Maybe it's kind of a subliminal message to make people join LHW.

And they're you saying it's propaganda?

They're indoctrinating the children.

Bluey is a cult leader.

Bluey is a cult leader.

No, you know who's a cult leader?

Us?

Mickey Mouse.

Yeah, yeah.

Olivia sent me the funniest like blog about why Mickey Mouse is one of the Kim Jongs and how like the way that he runs Mickey Mouse clubhouse like it's North Korea let me just read this one quote and okay and you'll know exactly what I'm saying is the article saying that Mickey Mouse is pushing like North Korean propaganda no there's just a lot of similarities he's he's inspired by Supreme Leader.

That's what it is.

So amongst other references that they cite, and they do have a theory that all of his friends are being like kept underground in his clubhouse and they can't escape.

But for sure, Mickey Mouse is essentially a Kim Jong.

They don't do exercise, they do mousker size.

They don't use tools, they use mousker tools.

They eat mouska food, they breathe mouska air, they hang out in Mickey Park, they live in the Mickey Mouse clubhouse.

The password is miska, muska, mickey mouse.

The entire clubhouse is an architectural nightmare effigy of Mickey himself.

Mickey is essentially the dear leader of his own vanity-fueled universe.

Imagine how it how the other clubmates feel living in that world

and having to pretend they enjoy it.

They are clearly under duress.

Yeah, like there's like individuality is illegal in Mickey Mauska land, and that's true for North Korea as well.

Everything is a shrine to Mickey.

Mickey shaped

everything.

In the book we were reading last night, there's a chair, and it looks like Mickey.

It's giving Kim Jong-un.

Yeah, so that's just something for you to chew on the next time you're watching.

The next time you're eating your Mauzka food in the Mosca Clubhouse.

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Our first story of the year.

Times person of the year.

Our first story.

of the day.

Times person of the year is here.

And after much debate by us yesterday over the finalists, they decided it should be Taylor Swift.

I have so many questions about the process because it's clear in the interview this process is months long.

Starting in the summer, they were in Santa Clara for that show there, like kind of evaluating her for person of the year.

The year like wasn't even halfway over, but very interesting.

I wonder if they do sort of this with everybody who's nominated and then pick a winner and everybody else gets like a little blurb elsewhere.

That's fair.

So I have a lot to say.

Okay.

The first thing I want to say is, I told you so.

Like I knew this was going to be it.

And it's so major, you know?

The second thing I want to say is very crazy and very controversial.

I think there's a chance that Taylor Swift listens to the toast.

I did not have

a dissimilar thought.

Okay, because she said two things.

Now, the first wasn't to raise my eyebrows that much.

She used the word nefarious.

We didn't invent that word.

It's a word.

We definitely use it more than other people our age.

It's something that's associated with us, but we by no means invented it.

No, and it's definitely a word for the reasons that we love it.

It's also a word that she would would love to.

Yes, it's very

descriptive.

You know, exactly.

It's punchy.

So I could see her separately, parallel thinking, arriving at the same word.

Then she said something else.

I saw what she said.

When she was asked about Beyonce,

she was explaining why she loves Beyonce and how Beyonce is just a precious gem of a person.

I rest my case.

I saw that that too.

And then it got me going back to be like, where and when did we start saying that?

Like, we've been saying that since 2018 at least.

Did we get it from something that maybe she got it from, like it resonated with her too?

Or did we totally make that up?

I don't even know what to do.

Did we invent precious gem of a man or a woman?

I don't know.

I can't think of a reference of like a movie or somewhere where we got it from.

Yeah.

And the thing is with the toast, like you can, you know, deny that you listen to it, but based on the way you talk, like we'll be able to tell.

You know,

so

the trash takes itself out.

Yes.

Oh my God.

Yes.

Yeah.

No, we didn't invent that.

No, and we didn't say it like that.

We said that we were going to take the trash out.

Also, trash takes itself out.

When does that happen?

You got to take out your trash.

Yeah, no, I just think, I know we sound crazy.

I think there's a chance.

I had like a split second of a thought.

I was like, oh, she sounds like Toasty, but I didn't actually think maybe she listens.

But then one more thing.

What?

She heard Travis's podcast about her.

So she's not unfamiliar with the act of listening to a podcast.

She's not unfamiliar with the medium.

She's not.

I just wanted to say that.

I think it's possible.

Now, I know I'm delusional, but.

I actually don't think that she could listen to our podcast because of how much we talk about her.

I know.

Even though most of it's positive, I wouldn't want to hear people talk about me every single day.

And like with the, and probably half of, more than half of what we say and theorize about her is wrong.

Is wrong.

And that'd be really frustrating, like her screaming at the podcast, like, no, we started dating way long ago.

That wasn't our hard launch at the first game.

I just think there's a chance.

And I wanted to say that.

Okay.

Now, so many other things to take away from the article.

It was really well done.

And she hasn't done like a full-blown sit-down interview like no holds bar in a really long time.

And there were a lot of interesting things that I noted.

I think I saw people, you know, I think a lot of people are like getting tired of hearing about Kanye and Scott Borschetta and Scooter.

And like, I understand what people say when they're like, it's like enough already.

But I also do understand the notion, like, this is her Roman Empire, you know?

And what I really appreciated the journalist being like is the way Taylor talks about how she lost everything before reputation.

Like she didn't leave her house.

Her career was taken from her from the, you know, the consumer POV.

Like, yeah, it was a scandal, but I never thought like Taylor wasn't coming back from it.

You know, she bounced back with reputation and it was just as big, if not bigger.

So

the author was like, I was going to say that, but like, I'm not going to.

invalidate her experience.

Like this happened to her and that's how she processed it.

But I felt the same way.

Like I never really thought of it as like this monumental thing.

But for Taylor and her experience, it was.

And I understand not being able to stop talking about something that happened to you.

Like I really do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And on the one hand, it was like, okay, it's a scandal, move on.

But on the other hand, like there was something about it that really upended everything

about her persona.

Yeah.

Like it was very big.

Yes.

For her.

And it changed the way a lot of people thought about her and felt about her.

At the time.

Yes.

Yeah.

But it's always that hindsight thing, like after a scandal, the moment you're like, ah.

Yeah.

And then years later, you're like, who cares?

But i also think her reaction to it made it bigger like she said she stayed at home for a year you know yes making it

if she had just sort of like even put something out and like went back and forth with them it would have kept moving but it we all stood still in it for a year until she came back with like in a revenge album which made it jump bigger

still at the restaurant still sitting in the corner i haunt like she didn't move she didn't move so none of us could move on Yeah, yeah, that's true.

And I also just did really appreciate, she said something so true.

It's like

the music industry just throws like young girls into the spotlight and sometimes it hits and they're never old enough to really understand, process, protect themselves.

And by the time they get to an age where they're like ready for it, they're tossed out like, you know, yesterday's trash and new young girls are brought in.

So she's like, the fact that I'm experiencing this undeniable peak when I'm old enough to understand it, to deal with it and like process it is so crazy.

Yeah, I thought that was really smart too, especially after just reading Britney Spears' book.

It's like by the time, well, she never really got the hang of the industry just because she's not cut out for it, like not cutthroat, like,

you know, just too naive and sweet.

But by the time you figure it out, you're out of the game.

Right.

And it's like the fact that she...

Is it intentional?

Because it's like they don't want you to have it figured out, but also they don't want you to be old.

Right.

Even though 29 is not old.

No, but the fact that she's like conscious of living in a peak right now, she said, I'm like the strongest and most trusting I've ever been.

Like I can handle what's going on right now.

Like that was so cool.

Yeah.

No, you can

enjoy it.

Instead of being like so fearful and also or being so I feel like this happens to some artists where they're so successful They're touring They're making huge hits But they are in shitty contracts where they're not actually making close to the amount of money that they should like she can she's making all the money for herself.

Like, she can enjoy the spoils of her success.

It's a, it's a great time.

Um, and then I screenshotted this part.

Obviously, she was asked about Travis.

So, given her complex history with public interest in her dating life, I say it seems noteworthy that her relationship with Kelsey has played out so publicly.

Swift gently pushes back.

This all started when Travis very adorably put me on blast on his podcast, which I thought was metal as hell.

She says, We started hanging out with her.

Not to be like a boomer.

What does that mean, metal as hell?

I don't don't know.

I think it means like

so rock star.

I think.

Okay.

I think.

We started hanging out right after that.

So we actually had a significant amount of time that no one knew, which I'm grateful for because we got to know each other.

When was

when did she rock the stage at Arrowhead?

When she rocked the stage.

I don't know.

I can't even search Taylor Switzer Arrowhead now.

By the time I went to that first game, we were a couple.

I think some people think that that was our first date at the game.

We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch at a first date.

The larger point for her is that there's nothing to hide.

When you, quote, when you say a relationship is public, that means I'm going to see him do what he loves.

We're showing up for each other and other people are there and we don't care, she says.

Quote, the opposite of that is that you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you're seeing someone and we're just proud of each other.

That's a swipe for sure.

Yeah, that's a swipe, right?

That's why I screenshot it.

Yeah, that's a swipe at Mr.

Comparing Mr.

Joe's notoriously, notoriously private and former relationship.

It's also her saying, even though you guys pick up on it through her music, it's her saying, like, that's not what I wanted for a relationship.

Right.

Right.

No, I loved this.

My only issue with this entire feature is that the photos were gorgeous.

I especially loved the one with the cat.

It was very funny.

Her bangs were up the whole time.

And I think like Taylor Swift's bangs are a core.

It's a cornerstone of her brand.

They've carried us through.

I really feel that way.

And for them to just kind of blow dry them up into her hairline, like I thought was disrespectful.

And like you can't capture the essence of Taylor Swift without her iconic bangs.

Her bayangs.

Her bayangs.

There's one photo with bayangs with the hair in her face.

Do you see it?

Scroll down.

You're covering it.

No, no, no.

I'm not.

I just here.

Yeah, okay.

But there were, I'm talking about the covers.

There were three different covers, and the bangs were up in all of them.

I didn't know you were so into the bangs and attached to the bangs.

I mean, it's Taylor Swift coded.

I guess so.

I never thought too much about her bangs.

Like, this is her kind of, this is like a lifetime achievement thing.

Like, you want her to look like herself.

Yeah, they didn't really do that.

They tried, like, new stylish

artistic, which, um,

not like necessary.

Like, it should be like a portrait.

Agreed.

But that's also me being very literal.

And, but I am a literal person.

You are.

I'm not, like, artistic, abstract whatsoever.

I'm very right-sided.

sided like i want portrait maybe even by

an art i don't know ellen von norworth annie liebowitz love maybe like a she's naked from the back and she's wearing a sheet across her bosom and she's turned to the side very miley cyrus vanity fair like that's what that's what it should have been

Yeah, so all in all, I love this.

And especially, I'm glad we went through all the people who have won it in previous years because noting how few music creative art people have won makes this like an even bigger deal because it really is a global thing.

Yes, I agree.

And I still can't think of one person who when we looked at the list yesterday who's comparable in winning.

So this is kind of like a first.

Yeah, it's major.

It is major.

So I wonder what they do with all the other interviews of the other.

Do they always have an interview with a star?

Like if they had

Putin as the winner, do they get a sit-down?

That's a good question.

Can you interview Putin?

I think so.

Actually, I just saw a TikTok.

Megan Kelly was talking about the craziest time of her life when she interviewed Putin.

Yeah, I think, but I don't know if Time would interview Putin.

Right.

He could call Putin.

Or like, or President Xi, like, does he want to talk to Time magazine?

Right.

I'm going to say no.

Because even though, like, for us, this is like the person of the year global, like, to them, it's just like some

silly American fodder yeah yeah well maybe that's why they did Taylor yeah

so I'm here for it and I think it's an accurate representation of the year

I agree and I think they were able to make this meatier by talking about like the economic effects and how it really you know world domination and it's like why are you gonna give it to the Jerome Powell when it's Jerome Powell's talking about Taylor Swift effect right right when all these world leaders are like licking her boots yeah so I I think that they made it make sense and it's very

it was well done and well earned as well and fun for the fans to get to hear from Taylor.

I think this is probably one of the biggest accomplishments for Taylor.

I don't think really, I mean, even though she acts like every award is so meaningful to her, like I think that this is something that

above all else.

Yeah.

I also thought it was interesting the people who Time chose to speak to like on her behalf.

Like, of course, they spoke to her mom.

They spoke to Phoebe Bridgers.

I think that Phoebe Bridgers, I know you're not, I'm not like a big fan either, but I think she's really

well respected as a songwriter.

And I think they wanted that to like shine through for Taylor.

So I think that's why they chose her.

Stevie Nicks.

Shonda Rhimes.

Yeah.

And I loved that little Kenny Chesney anecdote.

Oh, yeah.

That's how it started.

Yeah, but like she had been booked on this Kenny Chesney tour and it was like the biggest deal of her life.

She was gonna, she was like crying.

And then they brought on a beer company to be the sponsor of the tour.

And Taylor was not 18 yet or 21.

She was 18.

She was 17.

She was 17.

I think you have to be 18.

And she

lost the gig.

And she was so fucking upset.

And Kenny Chesney, like, remembered that.

And like a year or two later, once she was 18, he gave her the gig again.

And that's like what started it all.

Oh, he gave her the job?

Yeah.

He just gave her a check.

Oh, wait.

In the article, they said they gave her a check at her 18th.

Okay, hold on.

Someone's later.

Yeah, she got the gig.

At her 18th birthday, she saw his promoter.

He handed her a card from Chesney that read, I'm sorry you couldn't come on the tour, so I wanted to make it up to you.

With the note was a check.

It was for more money than I'd ever seen in my life.

I was able to pay my band bonuses.

I was able to pay for my tour buses.

I was able to fuel my dreams.

Oh, wait.

It could be interpreted either way.

I think he just gave her money.

Also, I'm pretty sure at 18, you still can't be with a liquor sponsor.

I'm pretty sure you can't work with a liquor sponsor until you're 25.

Until you're 25.

Yes.

Wait.

I misunderstood that.

That's even crazier.

He just gave her a check.

Yeah.

And then I was going to ask you, like, how much do you think the check was for?

$100,000.

Actually, what year was it?

Inflation, you know, the economy.

$50,000.

$50,000?

Yeah.

That would pay for band bonuses, tour buses, and field dreams?

$100,000 at least.

Yeah, because I think a tour bus, I think I read this somewhere once.

Actually, I was like looking into doing maybe a tour bus for my comedy tour once.

It was like a joke, but it was like expensive.

Like a decent one is like 10 grand a week.

Okay, so probably at least 18.

Yeah.

Six figures.

I love Kenny Chesney.

Oh, I also loved the Kelly Clarkson shadow.

Of course.

When she was talking about her re-recording, she was like, you know, people would say it.

And like, literally, every time I ran into Kelly Clarkson, she would tell me to rerecord my music.

And like, my parents told me to do it, but it just felt like such an undertaking.

I wasn't sure if I was going to do it.

I love that she always credits Kelly Clarkson.

While it's like, it's, it's kind of a parallel thinking idea.

It's not like a unique idea that Kelly had.

Yeah.

Because other people in Taylor's life told her to do it.

But I love that she always credits Kelly, right?

And also, it sounds like she ran into Kelly over the years and Kelly continued to say to do it.

Yeah, it was not just the tweet.

We all know about the tweet, but Taylor said, I would run into Kelly Clarkson and she would always, multiple, always tell me to do the re-recordings.

Yeah.

Our club.

Queen, queen, matching queen.

Yeah.

So

fun

time person of the year.

Always a fun thing to talk about.

It's the end of the year.

We have another of the year for today's stories.

Oh, what is that?

It's at the end.

Okay.

I think it'll be a fun one.

Fast food chain of the year.

What is it?

Fast food chain of the year.

No, but what would be your fast food chain of this year?

Oh, personal.

Yeah.

Well, this was like my year of health.

So like I actually didn't eat a lot of fast food.

You know what it would be for us?

Sonic.

Yes.

Yeah.

Year we discovered Sonic.

So good.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yes.

It's a bit of an update from yesterday's story about Amy and TJ

because now their exes, Andrew Hsu and Marilee Feibig, are dating after bonding over the traumatic cheating experience.

So the ex-spouses of scandalous news couple TJ Holmes and Amy Roback have gotten closer.

Page 6 has officially exclusively learned they are dating according to multiple sources.

We're told the couple have been dating for about six months after bonding over the experience of being cheated on.

Quote, it turned into something else and they're connected over their values.

It's bigger than the affair now.

They're told that the hurt is over and the duo has moved on.

They're not heartbreaking and sad.

Heartbroken and sad.

They are moved on.

This is like one of my favorite romantic tropes.

It's giving Shania Twain.

Yeah, a lot of...

That was a good idea.

I thought of it immediately.

Shania Twain's husband literally cheated on her with her best friend and left her and went with the best friend.

So Shania ended up marrying the best friend's ex-husband, who also got left, and they're still together.

Wife swap.

Literally wife swap.

What are other like classic examples of that?

I don't think there are.

For me, it's always like Shania.

Yeah, but that would be like a good book idea.

Yes.

And the thing is, it's not really that crazy of an idea because it's like, it's like if A equals B and B equals C and C equals D, then A equals D.

It's logic.

Because if these two people could like B.

If TJ liked Amy and Amy liked Brian or whatever his name is, it makes sense that the person who once liked tj through the transitive property would like brian it's a equals d

yes a equals b and b equals c and c equals d then a equals d did i not just say that oh did you i missed the d okay it's a equals d

by the way it makes complete logical sense like all these people obviously just have similar tastes right similar interests They probably all values look or they're probably all on the same category of looks.

Yeah, yeah, they're like that good looking.

League, league.

League, yeah.

It should happen more often.

I would say if you get cheated on, the first person you should try and call.

Call for, if you're when you're ready for love is the yes.

That's true.

That is.

And

if it happened that like you guys got cheated on at the same time, you will both need the same amount of time to agree roughly to agree to get over it and then be ready again.

Your timeline, your taxi cabs are lining up.

So fucking true.

That's a silver lining about getting cheated on, but hopefully you don't get cheated on with someone single.

Ugh.

Oh, my God.

Then it's like, we're all losers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, God.

Hopefully, you didn't get cheated on by someone.

I didn't even think of that as like an option.

I think that happens a lot.

I think it most is most of the time.

Yeah.

Damn.

So we can't help you there.

No.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Paris Hilton is revealing one of the heartbreaking reasons why she opted for surrogacy.

Okay.

So Paris Hilton is doing a lot of press because her new show, Paris in Love, is out.

She did an expansive interview with Romper and she explained that she still has so much PTSD from what she went through at Utah's Provo Canyon School for Troubled Youth.

So she said, if I'm in a doctor's office, I get a shot, anything, I will literally have a panic attack and I can't breathe.

I just knew that would not be healthy for me or the baby growing inside of someone who has such high anxiety.

So when she was at the school, she talked about in her book, she was like physically, sexually, and emotionally abused.

And they would subject her to gynecological exams against her will and like hold her down.

And

so now she has a fear of doctors

and didn't think that she could go through all of that pregnant.

I might have chills.

Yes.

Well, that's.

Makes a lot of sense.

Yeah.

Makes a lot of sense.

I still think like one of the craziest things Pyrasultan's ever done is like have a full-blown kid and not even tell her mom or her sister, like, and then I do it again,

yeah, yeah,

and yeah, she did it twice.

Like, that's so iconic.

I know.

I did the episode with Olivia when we announced that she had a baby girl, and her kids are 11 months apart.

It's so nice and amazing, and then she brought her home for the holidays.

No, upsetting, and her name is London, and it's giving London Tipton, who was inspired by Paris.

Life imitating art, imitating life,

life imitating art, imitating life.

Exactly.

But I do think a lot of people who don't know Paris, like, or what she's about or read her book, like, were probably like, oh, why did she just opt to have a surrogate?

And

what maybe she had been through.

This is it.

Is that a memoir you would recommend?

Yes.

Okay.

Speaking of memoirs, we would recommend.

I started Keenan's book yesterday after we like decided it would be the perfect thing to read.

And

it's,

it's not my, it's not, it's not for for me.

I'm going to finish it because I'm like 20% in and it's short and I want to reach my goal.

But I really feel like

exactly how he described it yesterday

as, you know, he's never really opened up about what he's been through.

I feel like he's still not opening up.

Like it's so,

it's so surface level.

That's a risk you run with a memoir.

And also I think

that

that article that I chose yesterday, like the point of the article was about him saying like, I'm going there.

i'm writing a memoir like what this is the time to go there and by the way maybe he does go there literally only maybe 20 25 maybe he's just glazing over his childhood because you typically don't like the childhood part of the memoir but he was a child he's not even going in chronological he's not going in chronological order because he's talking a lot about being a parent and how you know he grew up like very middle class so he like really struggles with how to like give his kids stuff

because he grew up with you know not not nothing but much less than he has now and he doesn't want to spoil them so it's not chronological He hasn't talked about like SNL yet.

It's just like, it's really not good.

That's disappointing.

I know.

And surprising.

Overall, it's not funny.

Disappointing and surprising given everything we said yesterday about how he is a writer.

He is funny.

He does have an interesting story.

We don't know it.

I don't hear his voice in there at all.

Like, it's really,

it's, it's not, it's, I'm not enjoying it.

It happens but like I'm ready for the juice, you know?

Yeah, and in his in the prologue He's like I'm gonna get to it like he's met everyone Elon Musk Obama like everyone's been on SNL

Yeah,

okay

Yep.

Are you ready for our next story?

What number is this?

Four.

Yes.

Ariana Maddox will make her Broadway debut as Roxy Hart in Chicago.

And she did not win Dancing with the Stars last night.

No, someone else won.

Yeah, I didn't know anyone in the top four besides Ariana.

And I didn't know the person who won.

I've not heard his name before.

Me neither, but

we won't spoil it.

And also, because I still don't know his name.

But also, because I don't want to spoil it.

I thought a girl won.

Really?

Yeah.

Hold on.

I thought.

Hold on.

Oh, my God.

Oh, Jason Moraz was in the top.

I didn't even know that.

I didn't know he was on the season.

Yeah, hold on.

Oh, um.

Okay, wait.

You might be right.

Yeah, because she kept coming up on my TikTok and she was cute as a fucking button.

Okay, yeah, it was a girl.

Yeah, I'm right.

I'm right.

I just saw like a picture of the top four and there was like...

I guess it's all men and women.

I don't know.

I don't know anymore.

You know, no, it's all.

Okay, well, I certainly didn't spoil it then.

Yeah, yeah, no.

I guess we still don't know who's going to win.

Man or woman, tune in to find out.

But Ariana did not win.

That was the point.

That was the point, but she's winning, stays winning, because she will be playing Roxy Hart in a limited eight-week run in the long-running hit Chicago.

She said, it's just the biggest dream come true.

I can't believe this is real life.

I'm going to cry.

Can Ariana sing?

Well, she studied musical theater at Flagler College and first moved to New York City after graduation with hopes of landing a spot on the Great White Way.

She never made it, instead moved to L.A.

where she would go on to find famous Vanderpump Rules.

I feel like all of the Vanderpump Rural stars can do

or act or are interested in either medium.

Yeah, they were all like models and actors when we first met them.

Yeah.

So this is a role Lisa Rinna has played, Erica Jane has played.

It's kind of like a reality star role.

Well, in Brittany's book, she talks about how she was offered it and she turned it down and she regrets that.

A lot of reality stars have hit.

I saw the great Nini Leaks on Broadway in Cinderella.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, but that's, yeah, she was in Cinderella.

But that's different than Neighbiennia.

Yeah, no, but I don't know if I saw it with her as the fairy godmother or Fran Dresher as the fairy godmother.

I remember I saw an iconic fairy godmother, but I can't remember if I'm conflating two different stories now.

Well, that's a real Broadway role.

Like, Nini's foray into acting was very real.

This is like

buzzy.

Yes.

And I feel like it's always someone of note who would be good at in the role.

It's so crazy.

I don't think as a society we talk enough about how Real Houses of Atlanta shot Nini Leaks to such stardom that she actually at one point left the show and lived in LA because she was getting so many legitimate acting roles.

She was a huge role on Glee, Roz Washington.

Roz Washington.

Then she was in that other show, The New Normal.

Yeah, she was like, that was kind of her show.

She was like a Ryan Murphy gal, kind of how, like, Kim is now like a Ryan Murphy groupie.

We know Emma Roberts, he Sarah Paulson.

He has like a group of girls he loves.

Ninny Leaks was one of them.

What happened?

I don't know.

I mean, Roz Washington is one of the greatest characters in cinematic history.

It's true.

She's this insane swim coach at the local high school in Glenn.

She's the only one who could take on Sue Sylvester.

Yes, Roz Washington.

Like, so good.

So good.

Take me back.

She was in a lot lot of stuff.

Yeah.

I wonder why she turned back home.

Why it didn't work out.

Yeah.

I wonder if she had, like, a falling out with Ryan.

Because, yeah, he uses, like, Emma Roberts is in everything he does.

Like, that could have been me.

For years.

He loves Leah Michelle.

Okay.

So she was in Dynasty, by the way.

She was.

One episode.

Okay.

I was going to say.

She probably seen every episode.

A lot of reality stars are like on their IMDb are in things like as themselves.

So she was on the new normal, 22 episodes.

She was on 13 episodes of Glee.

And that's really it.

Uncle Drew, I don't know that one.

That's not a Ryan Murphy production.

I wonder what happened.

I wonder what happened to.

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Our fifth and final story, Oxford's 2023 Word of the Year is here, and it is...

I think I know.

Riz.

Yes.

So I learned a lot yesterday because I obviously I knew the word Riz.

It's a word that the kids use.

It means like swag.

You're like, oh, he's got a lot of Riz.

It comes from the word, derived from the word charisma.

I didn't know that.

And it actually makes me like the word a lot more.

I love the word charisma.

I think it's a grossly underused term.

And it's going to continue to be underused, though, because it's been supplanted by Riz.

Riz.

But did you know Riz before in this story?

No, and I never heard of the word.

And I don't know if that makes me like really out of

the jargon or like Oxford kind of is using a word that isn't the word of the year.

Like that, it's not the word of the year.

It's very, very niche.

And people really don't use it.

It's just like a slang word that exists, but it hasn't been like assimilated into language in the way that a lot of slang words have.

It doesn't make you in the know.

It's kind of like a crazy thing.

Yeah, because the other options for word of the year were situationship,

which is.

Oh, God, I fucking hate that word.

Cringe.

Swifty.

That would have just been like embarrassing if they chose that in thirsty seeming.

And the other word is prompt, which would have been used because of AI.

Like you have to give a prompt.

Oh.

It's a stretch.

I feel like AI would have been a better word of the year.

I want to ask you.

okay, so tell me if you know these current hot slang words, okay?

Mid.

Like mid-level, average.

Yes, used to insult or degrade something of an opposing opinion,

labeling it as average or pork, pork wall.

Okay, yeah, that's pretty.

Like his new girl is mid.

It's pretty literal.

I can get behind it.

Simp.

Simp is like when you're being like kind of like desperate and thirsty, like simping over someone like eyes wide open, but you're kind of being a loser about it.

When someone does weigh too much for person that they like.

Yeah.

You're being a loser.

Drip.

Drip?

Drip with a D.

Is that like when you have swagger?

Like you've

kind of.

When something is very cool, like it can be used to describe an outfit or an accessory.

Like, oh, look at that drip.

Look at that swagger.

Yes, I'm correct.

No, but it's more of like a physical thing.

One thing is a drip?

No, like you would be describing something physical where swagger, I think, is more personality.

I think of swagger also as physical.

So what I'm thinking, I just didn't articulate it but i am thinking of the same thing yes three for three

bet bet

b-e-t that's like

i i think of it literally as you know

like

that's true bet on it like nah oh uh

bet like almost like the truth like

yes yes yeah

an expression that means i agree great bet yeah all right let's do one more i feel like you either know this one for sure or you don't cap Cap.

Like,

no cap versus cap.

Like,

I'm calling a lid.

Like, like.

I'm calling a lid.

Like, cap.

Like, period.

Period.

No, it means lying.

Like, no cap.

Jack, you look gorgeous today.

No cap.

No lie.

Yeah.

And then if somebody says something, you're like, yeah, sure.

You're like, okay, cap.

They say it like that.

Okay, cap.

Yeah, like cap.

Okay, do more.

Do more.

I'm learning.

I'm learning a lot.

Sheesh.

Sheesh.

Of course.

Sheesh.

Like,

woof.

No.

It's like when you're really impressed, sheesh.

You have to be impressed.

It can't be like

something amazed or impressed.

You can't be like, sheesh, I'm not going in that lake.

No, that's like how old Jewish people would do.

Sheesh.

But now the young, cool people are saying, sheesh.

They say it like that.

They have never heard that.

You're definitely not going to know NPC.

Someone who doesn't think for themselves.

Well, what does it stand for?

So NPC is a type of live that people do.

And so you'll come across someone's live and they're like pretending to be a doll.

It's so stupid.

Okay, but I like that.

Someone who doesn't think for themselves.

Bussin.

Bussin.

I actually don't know.

You should just start using it.

Like when something's really good, like these potato chips are bussin.

I love that.

I love that.

I think we got all the wheels on the business.

Go round and round, round and round.

That's my bussin.

So Riz.

Riz is the word of the year, and it's not.

And it's not.

I'm so glad you brought that up.

Yeah, do I have a question for you?

Do you think that you have Riz?

Charisma?

Yes, I do.

I know I do.

Okay.

I fucking do.

I know it.

By the way.

Everything's coming up, Roses.

That's charisma.

For sure.

By the way, we need to talk about something that happened last week.

No, we don't.

What?

Because everybody's saying that I don't know how to do cross-eyed.

That you didn't do cross-eyed when you said.

We had a whole conversation about how I love doing cross-eyed and then I did it and people were like, you're not doing it.

So maybe I'm actually like, I know you could do cross-eyed.

I would, like, I would go to bat for you.

Bet she can do cross-eyed.

Bet.

And those cross-eyes, no cap.

Those cross-eyes are busting.

My cross-eyes are busting.

But you have to show everyone because you actually got too excited to do it.

I didn't do it.

Okay.

Okay, ready?

Now I'm like nervous.

Like, maybe I'm not doing it.

I think that was it.

Did I do it?

I think those cross-eyes were bussing.

My cross-eyes were bussing.

Now, what else is bussing is that our show is not nearly over because we have deer toasters and we have an update.

An update?

Did you start with the update or end with the update?

Start.

Start.

Because now you've got me titillated.

So we had a bride who wrote in recently about her mom's boyfriend coming to the wedding.

Right.

And we had told her, like, it sounded like she was being like a little selfish.

Like, we understand they haven't been together for so long and you're grieving your dad, but like, you do want your mom to be happy at a day that's really important to her.

And I was really curious if she like vehemently was just going to ignore us and disagree.

Hey, Jackson Letterd.

I was the one she bride who didn't want her mom to bring a date to my wedding since my dad had passed.

I realized I was a problem.

Hi, it's me.

I ended up telling my mom her man was more than welcome.

They danced and had a great time together.

They have since broken up.

But I do not regret inviting him since she had such a great time and a friend to be with all night.

Thank you guys for being so honest and giving me the sisterly advice that I just got chilled.

Thank you for being a self-aware queen who's open to feedback.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I'm glad that your mom had a fun night dancing the night away.

And hopefully you put them at the end of the picture so you could crap him out.

I doubt you put him in the pictures as a boyfriend.

You don't, you don't put the boyfriend.

See, the thing is, you do something nice for someone, it makes you feel good.

Yeah.

And we all win, even though they broke up.

Like, it doesn't matter.

Even at a wedding, you just want a dancing partner, even if you're not even in a relationship.

like you bring a friend, like you want to have someone to dance with.

Especially at your daughter's wedding.

Now, our next submission is maybe one of the biggest red flags I've ever experienced in toaster story.

Ooh, okay.

The other night while my husband and I were in the bathroom getting ready for bed, he was sitting on the side of the tub and I was naked.

And then he blurted out, it makes me so sad that you won't always have this good of a body.

My heart broke instantly.

And long story short, we just went to bed completely silent.

I'm literally 21.

I go to the gym daily.

I have yet to have kids.

Obviously, you literally don't even need to explain you and your body.

Obviously, but I'm probably at my peak.

But like, really?

Maybe I'm wrong for being so hurt by that comment.

Or maybe he's just an ass.

Help.

Well, first of all, husband 21, that's young.

I didn't realize that when I was reading this.

This is her husband, she said.

Yeah.

And he sits on the edge of the tub while she bathes.

She didn't say she was in the bath, but she said he was sitting on the side of the tub and I was naked.

So I assume she was in the tub immersed in water.

Like, I feel just feel like a tub should be you time.

Oh, really?

Ben comes in when I'm in the tub all the time.

Really?

Yeah.

Like, I like to talk and I sometimes need him to bring me pretzels.

I guess.

I guess I just take me time where I can get it.

The idea of having...

Also, Ben is always stealing my body wash.

So I scream because he needs to go get it for me from the show.

Oh, yeah.

Sometimes I do need something brought, but we're not having conversation.

But also, you take longer baths than I do.

So I'm not.

Yes.

Okay.

Regardless.

You're fixating on the wrong part.

I don't think it's weird that her husband would keep coming.

I'm not weird, but just like, get out of my face for a second.

Get the fuck out of my face, hope.

Yeah.

So this is a bad comment.

But I do think.

No, it's no, it's bad.

But I think that sometimes like men can be very immature.

And yes, maybe at 21, he thinks, oh, I wanted you to look like this forever.

But then he will, hopefully, if he's like a good, decent man.

With depth, like when he sees you get pregnant and give birth to his children, he will appreciate that body even more.

Like I think there's a chance that this is like a very shallow, nasty thing to say, but it's also just could be like naive and he doesn't even know what's waiting for him.

Cause I've seen so many, you know, like reels, like corny, poetic reels about like men who talk about how like they appreciate their wife's bodies, every stretch mark, every curve, like it brought them their family.

It's the vessel through which it gives them, it gives life to their children, those breasts.

Like I think that perhaps he could mature with age and that he won't actually always feel this way forever, but it's just a dumb fucking thing to say.

No, and I do think you should like talk to him about a why it's hurtful b like

to know that it's wrong just so that sort of mentality doesn't stay you know yeah

like i i do think i could definitely agree with you and see it like being chalked up to these are two really young people and like young people say dumb things and years later they realize how wrong they were but i do think planting the seed now being like why this was hurtful and why it's wrong and why it's damaging like is important in in terms of his growth yeah i agree you should say something and you could also be like i wish you would look like that way forever.

It makes me sad that you won't.

Yeah, you big ugly turtles.

Leaves us all blind, as we should be, because if I can't see, neither can you.

Half-blind.

It was only ever one eye.

It was only ever one eye.

So why should you have two and I have one?

I agree.

Not in my world.

What if I just

what if I just scooped out the little eye right out?

And what if I took it for myself?

And now I have two and you have one.

And

you're cross-eyed with two different eyes.

Okay, ready for our third and final one?

This was funny.

Hey, Jackson Letchard.

I am dating a total P jump and we recently exchanged gifts for our anniversary.

As one of the gifts, he gave me a purse that is 100% fake Dior.

I knew it instantly because of the packaging and we are college students and a real bag would have just cost way too much.

I was grateful, but mentioned nothing of the fakeness and neither did he.

I am not at all a snob who needs a real designer, but I'm just not a designer girly.

I prefer simple pieces.

And I do feel cringe wearing a designer, fake designer item, because I just never cared about labels.

Do I say anything?

I am not mad at all and he gave me plenty of amazing gifts, but I lightly cringe when I see the bag and I just don't know if he thinks that it's real.

I think it's...

Oh, sorry, I just don't know if he thinks it's real slash thinks I think it's real.

Right.

Does it even matter?

Help Help a girly out who's non-confrontational but would feel better if it was not an unspoken fact that he gifted me a fake bag.

Yeah, that's really awkward.

Also, because you need to make sure he doesn't get it, something like that ever again, because you don't like it.

Like there, if you are someone who like is fine with a fake, that's

and that you would love the bag.

Like, yeah, who cares?

But if he thinks he's slayed,

the gift department.

He needs to know, like, I'm fine.

You don't need to get me a new gift.

Like, it's, this is fine.

But, like, going forward, I don't want fake bags.

This isn't my style.

No, but she doesn't even want designer bags.

Like, she says it's not my style.

Right.

You need to find a way to communicate that.

Even designer bags, like, without making him feel bad about his gift.

You need to let like a bunch of time pass so it's not like so fresh.

But there's just an element of this that's like actually really sweet.

Like he thinks, he thinks he got her.

It's yours.

Or does he?

Or does he think that he like found a really good fake and that he slayed?

I don't know.

Men like don't know about counterfeits.

I think they do.

They have their own.

I mean, if he's into like

theirs counterfeits jerseys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe he thinks he like pulled a fast one over.

But like you would obviously think like, how did my college-age boyfriend who's on a budget buy me a $3,000 Dior bag?

I guess you could come at it like really

ignorantly and be like, I feel like you spent too much on this bag.

Like, I know how much this costs.

Love, love.

We should return it.

I know how much this bag costs.

Like, yeah we should return it and then if he admit like oh no babe it's fake and and then

but then how do you you should say well still i don't want i don't want designer and i don't want fake playing dumb is my absolute favorite thing to do

no like it's it's too much babe let's let's go back to the store and return it yeah where'd you get it again

the mall

yeah

yeah play dumb love that you but you should let him know because you don't want him to keep doing this that's really the issue it's not no but it's it's not the one bag.

You can have any, everyone gets a gift they don't like and you just put it on the shelf.

But it's about going forward, one, if he was conned.

Right, right.

And two, like, you don't want him to keep getting gifts of this elk.

It's like so sweet.

It is sweet.

He sounds like so cute.

I'm not mad.

Unless he, like, was trying to buy her a fake bag and passing it off as real.

Like, there's so many different combinations of how this.

I know.

What does he know?

You know, and like, what is he trying to think you know

right was he taking advantage of or is he taking advantage of you and your kindness and your generousness of spirit

you got to say that the gift was too much and you want to return it that's the only way forward here

it's simply the only way yeah you have to find out how much he knows

but you also have to course correct you have a lot of work to cut out for you i don't envy you

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Just put update in the

what?

I was just thinking because I was like, I know we had a good title for the episode when we were talking.

And I'm like, try and remember it.

I thought you were about to make fun of me because I said the word update like 50 times in one second.

No, no, no.

I was just thinking of what today's title is.

And I remembered.

Okay.

And I remembered.

And it's so funny.

Let me think.

Do you not have that feeling when we were saying something like, oh, that's the title?

A plus B plus C equals C.

Okay, what?

What is it?

Those cross-eyes are bussing.

That's the title.

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